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Should still be able to win rock paper scissors matchupd
no one in my brackets has emi or s.anis so couldn't copy your teams anyway π

Don't worry, Raven will save you guys, trust
nah I don't think she'll be pvp meta
i trust keripo
could be wrong but sorta doubt
A2 delay
kinda , only explanation is that i might be leaving out some stages because i dont have the power to do them unless i redo the stage like 30+ times which is kinda tiring,
but the most i saw was ppl being like 15-17 levels above me at most so far , which isnt a game changer in pvp since even tho i use the same team i have the advantage with the cubes/friendship and other things (only explanation i can come up with)

raven first b3 clip rl, trust

Emilia was A2 V2 and so Raven will be Emilia V2
oh right emilia
anyways sleep sleep time
does your noah/emi team even work with someone else instead of emi?
would be weird if their own collab doesn't have absolutely broken chars
ajust the team to your investments and sure it will work
i remember when i said emi was a better A2 and people on reddit were like "how dare you say anything bad about my beloved A2"
||pascal is a better a2||
Actually, if Raven is a clip RL, this could solve a couple issues
Could make SAnis comp 2RL
Maybe
ado will save us all 
same, she hawt
I liked her more than eve in the game lmao

i don't like the dmg from scarlet/blanc teams, you can tank, but if it is a random match, yeah go for it
I've never played the game
probably , but since rail told me that last time i think i should at least try , its kinda hard tho considering that its like a 1% chance to get the 6% i need on each of the 4 equipment , which means i need to spend at least 2 crystals if we consider other stats that exists like this one, yet again its not like i have any other things for the crystals to go to beside oling the relics on drake and bay goin gforward
hard to spare rocks for pvp with all these good units lately, and they haven't really increased drop rate like they promised
you just have to focus in your campaign teams, get good effects and boost your cp, at some point if you can reach higher stages your sync lvl can compete with some whales
now, scarlet gacha skin or free skin with the full version of the game, how will you get it?
$60 for skin, or $70 for skin+game 
Neither. The skin sucks
Forgot to share this earlier. Recorded and uploaded from my phone, lemme know if the quality is good enough or if next time I need to record from PC
https://youtu.be/bV9n_sfNz3M?si=_LENIMZnL0NFwBDZ
Here's replays of my first Promotion Tournament match for Champion Arena S5 teams. This time I tried recording from my phone instead from PC, hopefully the quality is good enough!
- Teams: https://youtu.be/rNnMUN-GjeY
- S5 League: https://youtu.be/eWAhQDNCPiQ
- S5 Top 64: https://youtu.be/bV9n_sfNz3M
If you want to keep up with the latest PvP...
my campaign team is done for the most part , unless i want to invest in grave or liter/siren , i finished the main campiagn and only hard campaign remains unil a new update drops
and my acc rng ever since it started was heavily focused on pvp , since i dont have redhood or crown etc , so pvp is all i focused on ever since the acc started rlly , like my first ssr was summer anis and scarlet π
the other thing i mfocusing on is kraken and solo raid maybe , solo raid i place comfortably around 10% approximately depending on how hard the boss is , and in kraken im at stage 5 , will improve my wasuka once im done with drake and bay and maybe rosanna , but rn all i think is that i need to lvl up more for the kraken , bc even if i get my wasuka built at most i can get into another stage bc the dmg taken , which im mostly kept alive because my helm
get your strong campaign template and just swap the dps, you can check the bosses you will have to face in the next chapters to know what units you can build or try to get, helm is one of those who have uses in pve and pvp
qeq, grave and liter with SR15 dolls 
more cp, you will have to do that if you don't buy core dust boxes
unless i want to invest in grave or liter
you already invested as much as you could
if the only reason you're going for SR15 on them is for a cp boost, let me tell you that's already a bad move
we have better units, but doesn't look like he have ssrapi or siren for b1 slot
@lunar pawn go on count
using nikke deck builder, ein's burst gen goes from 5.6% at 2.5RL and 14% at 3RL. Does her feather actually have that must extra burst gen?
14 - 2.8*3 = 5.6??
i don't use that tool or ein, i can't help
phantom and naga too? 
not much resources going around lol π i need to ol my bay and rosanna , and lvl up my wasuka ol gear up , so lvling up the ol of liter/siren/grave is low priority compared to the rest
guess if you're super lucky with doll rolls + aren't f2p, that's fine
Yes a feather shot does have burst gen 
otherwise bruh π
nope , im a f2p π
π

I wanna ask what were you thinking without sounding rude
U can see it more clearly here at the end how much 2 feather shots fill the burst meter https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1315801153610715206/1342203891793526964/ein_drone_behavior.mp4?ex=68472a48&is=6845d8c8&hm=e191ae76ee713c5ac89b66060a71810ba8697ca23c89b92a1ac7c916646f2eb5&
gotta keep my tribal towers up somehow
got laplace, exia and miranda treasures yet?
mirana and diseal working on it
exia and mirana still need another spare body
all miranda and diseal need is just firendship lvl , which i can do using my tickets but i save them just incase , since there is no rush for them
laplauce needs spare body*
bold of u to assume i plan for solo raid
all i do i just see what teams i can come up with , considering the mess i have
ye time to copy redhood and crown who i dont have and use other unbuilt units like winter ludemella or laplauce π
i just leave it till last day , i would have maybe finished lvling up drake for example , so i would be like yk what , lets do it in an hour or so
just make the cinderella blanc team , put scarlet in there so she doesnt die
qeq team with full dmg and maybe helm who knows
some random team using rapi redhood and others
the scrapes team
and the joke team using jackal π
give me the benefit of the doubt i didnt even pass a year in nikke yet
breathe fresh air once in a while in #questions #team-building or #strategy
βββ SP Defense βββ
Scarlet/DrakeT/Trina/Red Hood/Jackal
Noise/Noah/SBS/HelmT/Centi
Ein/LaplaceT/Blanc/Siren/X.Maiden
whenever you have another brilliant idea like SR15 phantom, run it over by #questions folks first 
you'll be able to work on actual meta units, pve and pvp wise
whos gonna tell him
I know you already did
but trying to prevent you from going like, SR15 tia
or max liter's s2
Preparing for tia treasure 
10 10 4
with some random bs
shes my carry in elysion tribal tower , and i was using her as off burst dps since i didnt have helm treasured or modernia
Yayy, I beat my servers best player
gj
what defense they are using
Wdym they, that's my acc
Ya no lo es 
@umbral crown Defense is
Noise anis cindy helm xmaiden
Scarlet emilia trina rh rumani
Sbs blanc bsoda centi jackal
era

can blanc indom t1, and cindy noah nuke t2

thought you were asking for help, ok then 
but was not that your friends account 
Oh also, this is about defense teams. Im not attacking this defense 
Have 2 accounts 
Eah 

hope raven is clip rl to solve some team inconsistencies
Raven is so pretty 
Or A2 better said
Like her better than eve
no way they make mid units with their own collab
Surely
It should be fine tbh
Iron raids will most likely always have parts, as all the iron dps except bsoda rely on those
And we are using on-element dps anyways
ty for keeping the game alive 

I may pursue an mlb depending how good they are, though hopefully since this is their own ip it should be easier for them to rerun.
βββ SP Defense βββ
Noise/Rumani/Bay/Cinderella/Centi
Scarlet/X.Maiden/Trina/Siren/Jackal
Blanc/Ein/HelmT/Red Hood/Emilia
Thanks chef
so still need help with defense?
yes please 

was trying this one for a while but didn't really pan out
i guess i lost the link to your caja

#pvp-arena message my caja
noah in 4rd line 
17% CS with maxed out gear and SR5 doll, Idk what to tell you
βββ SP Defense βββ
Ein/Noah/Emilia/Red Hood/HelmT
Scarlet/Liter/Trina/LaplaceT/Jackal
Noise/Rumani/Bay/Cinderella/DrakeT or SBS for more cp but with SBS team would be 4 RL

if you trust your noah to live to burst in 2 RL put her P1 but tell me if the cp is better compared to your old defense
SR15 her then
mm why liter in t2?
more cp
and scarlet in p1 isn't just asking for a stun?
if anything just rapunzel and team becomes 2 RL
then swap rapu with scar

Rapu p1 in 2 RL will burst then get stunned
let me check cp

just like waifus, better having only one
upcoming collab surely will bring better version of emilia 
imagine having money to throw on a gacha
if i ruin my ruined laifu, doesn't it become normal?
unfortunately, -1 adding another -1 just becomes -2
anyway, judge my bet
ask the MAs, me just a pleb passing around 
if anything sbs will give you more cp but 4 RL
You are underground MA
wtf sync 542
si, 7-10-10

whats their team?
can not see if we are not in his bracket
what can I change to make this matchup more consistent? it basically ends in a coin toss whenever I try to match them
dang, didn't work.
u basically change the whole team
-. - keep noah for aoe shield. keep helm for burst gen.
can use jackal if no rumani
wtf 21 units with SR15+
I've been... lucky?
22 actually
I do have rumani but I haven't leveled up her skills completely yet, what should she be at?
but still can't DEF on SP 
as long as u have higher cp than enemy. can keep jackal
alright thanks
i can send u my teams in dm
I mean, is not normal to have SR15?
I can't find the exact number for Rosa nuke, it seems that they've changed the damage formula
It's lower than expected
I have 20 SR15/treasures in total lol
nice!
Trying to get Moran SR15 now since she is back on my DEF team for SP for now.
Ok so I did the math and this is a lie. With how my teams are built, I'd either need 2 clip RLs or another Helm+ to lead to any speed changes
But others with less charge speed should be able to benefit
Thats me
Mm, yeah no speed changes
do u use adjutant to reach 17% cs or it is their best cube?
18%
I use adjutant to reach 19%
Shepard didn't realize he has more SR15s than "Leviathan" level whale 

I know MA has point system, but what's the benefit from leveling up as MA? 

higher rank better rewards 
specifically, blue/pink MAs get irl merch
green MAs are uncompensated slaves
That's pretty ass
Railtracer is secretly green MA?! 
It's not ass, is a filter βοΈ 
my sg ros has no b2 as well 
p1 preassure i guess


Rosy, I already cheered my opponent :deadge:
Baldie?
I know that you need to have several teams depending on the enemy team, but there is one that manages to defeat a large majority of them? (for the rookie arena)
Scar Trina teams?
Could be
Nah it is intended
That laplace could be treasure viper right
If i should have done that during finals last time i wouls have gotten the all cheers frame
I mean for burst cuz phase viper is re enter
But for damage purposes she is since she is iron
That is the whole point
No anne
Viper max phase
Naga Poli Guilty not good enough
just bruteforce at this point
if its not against biscuit defender or scar jack i could say that team has high chance to win to anything else

that emote π

I would use Anchor
Me too, always cheer my opponent. 
all mfs that i know from my spa that got into top8 won CA, shows enough of what kind of hell groups SU put me into
So you have 8 CA champ after 4 season. 
Anyway, time to create new account. 
I feel lucky today
Not gonna pull anything and ruin it. 
Even here 
I ruined it. 
used the rest of my rock after this video as well for a nothing
no, didnt care to track if they failed qualifiers but only looking at cheerings
Ruined it completely
My whole week is ruined.
Just as it started
160 blue 110 purple and 100 red
Hey it getting a bit better maybe. 
Maybe time to take her out of my wishlist

My highest core unit it's not even funny
Okay not the best outcome but my week is salvaged. 
After wasting 11 rocks on her today for nothing. She gave me back one core. 

oh wow
honestly i was saving just for hoping for QOL, but now i'm lowkey thinking it's cope
I still Rapu bricked but my Pilgrim mold is moving closer to 50% rate now. 
Should be about 40% now
I have gotten 3-4 Scarlet from mold though. She has a love hate relationship with me I guess. Love to give me her copy. But hate to stop eating my rock.

Okay just realized they changed the cover image of this discord just as I was going through all this. 
rock? Yeah she is minmax worth
18 rocks seeing what new units are like
I did just realize your account is older because of that rezero collab. Pvp is hard for you because if you quit and come back you get left behind in pvp because pvp is account creation date based.
@swift mango im done everything
160 wall and emi, when was re:zero collab?
Yeah I left the game for like
Maybe 9 or 10 months
your pvp will be eternally bricked so you should focus on pve more, but you can probably redeem something if you stay active long term
just never into top 10 of SPA, or maybe even top 30 again π
Give it like 2 years
So in conclusion my PvP is cooked
Or 1.5 fastest
scarlet trina hood emilia jackal is your best team currently
it is a bit, but you have good units still, can just focus on pve instead
Then Iβm not gonna invest in PvP anymore 
Wth
Iβm sorry whoβs trina π
PvE > PvP for you
But once you can reach 700K per team, you can think about PvP
yeah you're better to push campaign and pve for now, you get more levels then via core dust as well
AVG top 50 is 2M+ CP
Ty bro β€οΈ 
I just got to chapter 18
π₯
push normal and hard both as you can, but remember it's an idle game still and coming back each day to gain resources/power is the main thing
what is your main PVE team atm?
Crown liter rh sbs maid mast
probably about right though on auto burst maid mast will never burst, do you manual her?
I'll advise to add Helm to wishlist and work on her bond/treasure in the background, you need 2 * (not MLB) and 30 bond with SR-15 doll.
long term goal but she is great to have for both pve and pvp
yeah also that if you happen to be swimming in silver mileage but they're also at 160 wall so dunno lol
I didnβt know I have to manually burst mast tbh
crown will burst every 20 seconds so on auto mast will never burst
yeee it will feel better when you start using her burst
I thought sheβs there for her skill 1 and 2 π
think most who run her do use her burst occasionally
yeah every third burst
if you want skill slave then naga may be better as she heals
I do have this thing, do I pick helm
Thats the spare body selector
It gives the character if u donβt have her?
Yeah I think itβs spare body
160 wall more important still probably
thats the 140 spare body selector, he wouldnt have the new years one if he wasn't playing during it
I donβt think I played during the new years
this is just funny lol
I used mine on Alice tbh
I also missed red hoodβs free skin π
sort your list by limit break and see how close you are to 5 units at MLB
you can save that selector until you can break the wall with it
Can u even still pull kilo
you can't it's anni selector
π
we had redemption items for it in the siren anni recently
so you should wait on using this to help break the 160 wall. You want to use spare body selections only when you have enough to get 5 units to max limit break, this is because if you use the selection sources early you might natrually pull that unit from pulling and then you start getting cores once its past max limit break which does not help to break the 160 wall faster.
shes in the mileage shop and the shop rotates
The silver one?
ah yeah 200 silver mileage again though π
yes
I have 343 currently
well you absolutely can't randomly get kilo from pulls so it's a safe bet to MLB there with mileage at least
Yeah I would not use that on kilo. even if you get helm to limit break 2 you also need her affection at 30 and a SR doll at phase 15
not use on kilo?
Not yet
What does affection at 30 give
need for fav item quest
Helm treasure is great but it's definitely a high investment, you should have the drake event though for materials?
It gives a little bit of stats but the ones with favorite items get the option have getting their favorite item
Yeah Iβm on rank 41 for that quest
Ok don't use them on Drake here, use them on your main team or for preparing Helm
Oh yeah road to villain is still going on isn't it
So the materials I spent on bayβs affection are wasted?
π
I mean she got some stats out of it
that event does get you to 2LB Drake so you could wishlist for her last copy as well for MLB
but thats it
Not even gonna use her π
most of the bond levels are just stats unless they have a fav item, but I quick bond daily anyway
I lost the 5050 on pilgrimβs nodes
hope you feel enriched π
p3 is 2 RL tho
its going to die to sg
I see
jackal link is broken because of rosanna too
The only problem is there is rng on p3 and p4
its if sg can kill before burst
Depends on stats
you could win p1 also
thats also rng
hmm might win p1 then
but she's 7/7/7
nero ol 5 10/10/10, moran ol 5 10/9/10
laplace ol 5 4/7/7
p1 looks winnable
should I prioritize OL5 rosanna, rapunzel, or trina?
A built rosanna is nice to one tap two units
but thats a big rock and manual sink
Rossana?
4 atk rest pad
Sounds doable
@tropic summit im back to getting diamond treatment 
Already got 2/4
How are these def comps
is mana a pvp unit?
yes
well I m talking about pvp
cuz someone recommended me to ol her for pvp, and others told me to not
Wouldn't jackal get Indo?
Emi gets indo here cuz she lowest hp in the link
And my def doesnt work time to try again
Scar jack bait - 1
Rosanna scar and can noah bait - 2
Also siren cindy kills all moran bisc sanis lol
Time to sg t3 then 
Scar jack bait again
, then cindy t1
And scar jack shouldnt beat t1 tho?
Well idk what im supposed to t3 with
I though t1 was sanis
Pics are reversed
The cindy team
I just cook anything these days 
Yeah. Cindy team is fine
Well what can i run for t3 
Solo indom to save jack for t3 is easy counter by siren

Only solution i can think of is emi blanc moran centi trina
And thats countered by sg
Donβt know what peepo are cooking these days 
Itβs hard to even use biscuit
With siren here
I wish i had scarlet 
More cope
SGs need rosanna 
@tropic summit do u think it's not worth or recommend building manan since she s rarely used in pvp?
What am i supposed to t3 with 
Mana only really used in nero moran comps 
Just cook crack 

Cant cook with either of those 
How come 
Also worst ca matchup
Bay 

Rossana
Respect bay
There's still CS and Scarlet ammo diff
After that. The CA winner is there. Beats me 4-1
Need help 
THIS IS WHY I HATE THIS GAMEMODE
I tried cooking but impossible

The Scarlet and Stall make it hard
Could I have some help with SP arena? I feel like 2 of my 3 teams are front loaded and i'm not entirely sure how I could approach the 3rd team comp to be viable.
i'm more surprised it took those ppl that long to break defenses 
P4: Right win because slower burst indom.
P5: just pick the one you think has higher investment.
It's literally 0.01sec diff smh
T1 scarlet's breakfast
T2 delayed noah's dinner or rosanna's snack
T3 skipperoni or 2RL noah + DPS B3's lunch or 2 rotations stall brunch
you can build mana, but not for SP arena, she's more for CA
This?
Honesty idk how my bracket will respond to sg with siren 
B2 doko in T3
None, just pure sg 
i remember ur bracket being dumb enough to not know how to deal with SGs so it might work
i'd stuff a B2 anyway, put a naga in there
instead of pmaid
Okay
should prolly put siren in p3 or p4, unless you gambling she survives 2RL to stun a potential noah taunt priority
without jackal link she's generally not recommended running in p2
She should survive 2rl unless enemy counters with sg? 
or a team with multiple RLs
like emi and laplace
i'd go
laplace drakeT naga little mermaid bsoda
assume laplace dies pre 3RL
you wanna burst with either drakeT or bsoda
you want naga and siren alive to burst
Okay ill try this
Thanks
no problemo 
remember it needs 2 quantum
How dumb I am, running unlinked ScarBS P1 
to be honest, I don't feel like I can top 5 for Γ§a, so no I cant
I also oled my Trina and anis, so I still have to ol Moran rapu and bay
do I wait until I ol these 3 then update my def teams?
then leave her on the bench, for SP arena there's 2 core teams you want built:
with these you should win against 95% of the defs
is there a substitute for noah
bay... 
Henlo! May I know why my Scarlet always have her HP cut to around 60% during the start of PVP round while everyone else is on max HP? And is there anything I could do to fix that?
^this is my comp
Trina skill
Trina buff her max hp without healing her
Ah ok...I just realized the "without healing" part of her skill. So basically her skill here doesn't really help Scarlet unless I also play a healer right?
P1: XAnne win. Left
P2: Jackal win. Right
P3: Biscuit win. Left
P4: Jackal+Blanc being faster so lose. Right
P5: LoL.
I would pick right.
You matches weren't that hard aside from the last one...
So i vote left for losing frame 
Thank you
Wouldnt t1 sgs hit ross faster than burst
I helped like nothing because it was 2-2 at the end. 
No i simply think t1 matchup right wins 
right win 3 4 5 
Blanc > XAnne > Viper for SG mirror usually
What good is this if ross dead 
They will both burst at same time because sacc counts both side.
Rossana practically can't die before she burst
Oke
Tbf, I think Right has a chance to win 3 so I picked.
May i ask your ign
for what?
Sikrit 
no, i already quit the game a long time ago

For Emi Indom match you might also check their Ammo. So that we don't have awkward situation like right Emi Indom last longer so she should win. But she reloads for 2 second at the end of Indom and loses. 
just asking for a friend
Thank you 
Hi all, what could be the best combination of members to work against these 3 teams?
Not owned, others should be at fine levels
is cheer voting closed rn?
it closed 15 mins ago now it's fight o'clock

trina
In before Cindy+Noah invulnerable by counter.
And Scarlet has 20 ammo to counter Siren.

we pray 
Huh? Should I drop ammo OL on my Scarlet? o_O
It's good question. Dropping Ammo below 30 mean lowering ATK. You could counter Siren in SpA easily. Having ammo still has its merit.
More good than bad.
But if you really always need to put scarlet to p1 in CA without RH to buff her then maybe.
I usally prefer to keep Scar away from p1. I normally keep Jackal at p1 and Siren p5.
@umbral belfry @wet crystal
first time i see you guys in campaign clear list
@placid bloom have i caught up to you
Yeah Iβve been stuck there, too lazy to work on Liter so Iβm waiting for 301
yeah im probably gonna be stuck here for 1month+
my liter is also only SR5 and 5/4/7
im thinking its about time i actually full invest in liter
same but the deficit is getting to the point where siren isnt cutting it
Any suggestions on how I can improve my teams? Only scarlet team performs consistently well
and its only going up for us now
Rapi B1 is still okay, Iβd rather just work on MMast
I just need to OL her chest and shoes but no gear exp to spare
cant afford rapi b1 cuz of her natural 95% atk steroid as b3
Skill level wise sheβs almost maxed
how's her doll
SR5 but Iβm done with SR15 on my other campaign chars so I can probably do her next, itβs between her and Scarlet for PvP padding atm
what do you count as your campaign chars, cuz im also trying to decide which characters i want to dump doll kits into
those are my SR15 + SR5s, MMast is still at R0
technically if i want to finish up my campaign roster SR15, i'd need 4 more SR15s
I think mine are the same but I donβt have RH, my only other SR15 is DrakeT
and all my pvp-only units are purely R0
would you count manchor, naga, and liter as campaign unit prios though?
Nah
i feel like naga and liter might still be core campaign units
naga for MW/general use, liter for massive deficit boss stages
Iβd rather just work on dps at that point and try to fix CP with OL
my OLs are ass
oh yeah same
i meant doll kits though
im debating between trying to raise my pvp units to SR5 minimum, or trying to get naga/liter/mmast to SR15 basically
Yeah but the kits are better off on my other dps too
Or new treasures
thats also true... i want to work on ein, xlud, wasuka
@swift mango congrats
I need help to beat that defense
Clutch 
Does Noah team need any change?

hey we have the same commander level 399 π
gz man, top 16!
Not a single soul running 2RL Scarlet 0CS
I worked on her some need again for 22
nah I'll just be stuck, I don't really use her much elsewhere 
she doesn't really have survival issues in SR though
buff to skills and such
maybe UR but I think that's sync issue more than anything else
yay
what hard chapter are you up to Zant?
i'm camping 27-27

YongYea?
if I beat 22 hard then I reckon I can maybe smash 23 + most of 24 before I get stuck again
but no way 27 at my sync, need more levels prob
which one is 22?
nihil pt .2
2nd nihilister?
breh u know when i did 21-hard mother whaler i proceed to shoot all the way to 24
yeah was here can push gear some but I may just save some materials for lapT or rumani
this should fall at 321
Rin won
just doesn't feel worth the mald at this point, it's basically 1 CD/hour per chapter until the big spike at ch38
ur liter is actually invested?
so I'll just wait on sync
yup, but she was before mostly as well
she had SR-5 doll already I put it on her quite early on before I got Rapi
and was like 6 ish skills, and some OL, so it wasn't a huge thing to invest her a bit more
My nihilbeater
fool proof everytime
I'd like to get this chapter done then I'll chill a bit, because you're right it's not much cd/hour, but I think if I get 22 done I can do 2 more so maybe 2 ish more cd/hour
then I may sit on cd crates and wait for new normal chapters
i wouldent use cindy cuz her dmg to parts is terrible @shell hazel
it is but I need her CP, it's close I can feel it
yeah but the CP from sync is bigger than whatever I'm getting from investing dolls on units that don't actually scale with dolls
if Liter scaled off caster Atk it'd be something else
so I'd rather wait on sync
yeah somewhat waiting on sync anyway into hard
I glaze my Cindy wife too but I know when a bad match up is bad 
i have a 10/4/10 liter and i still hate this piece of shit
i love nihilister but her boss fight is undeniably cancer
mine's 7/4/7 
Lost my chance at loser frame, but atleast im still in lol
forreal.... and it might be the case that i'd need siren > liter anyways just for QTE
Cindy = 509K
Alice = 505K
RH = 501K
all of these are sucky deficits π
ok so if you run liter you don't have to run naga
if you run naga you don't have to run liter
both of them have major problem
i'm going for loser frame atm, lost 2 in a row (1 was me lol)
i tear her to shreds
but that's prob cuz i have good QEQ
naga: no damage because no core for consistent wall fix exchange
liter: 5 seconds into 3 seconds delay super hurts because you wont be able to hitsync burst for later on with a stronger wall fix and burst utility
both of them are virtually horse shit
Oof, but hopefully you get the frame π
that is the hope π
new solo raid starts up in about 9-10 days, by then hopefully I can get LapT doll before the next CA starts
yeah but my liter is bad cp, my naga's heal is apperciated in nihilister when helm is not on burst, in anycase on high deficit nihilister run cover repair is necessary
I decided to cheer myself so I get something regardless, cuz my last match was 50/50
@tropic summit did you made it into top 64 this season. How was your CA recently?
my current 16 is better than my last 64 
I want my first "all right guesses" to be when I back myself and win it lol, might be a while
what with Hime holding my Rumani hostage
Rin lost 
quantum Rin
@shell hazel poor enemy siren on team 4 matchup got played by my 28 bullet scarlet 
I had one of my opponents do that lol, I think I lost anyway but was funny to see no ammo scarlet dodge it
@swift mango
my soda team lower min cs stun later but win crit RNG? 
and I survived cuz of that
Hello... May I ask for a decent pvp team for both modes with what I currently have? Levels 1s included... I'm gonna be managing my 37 (including the fixed five) synchro slots soon enough
Well, you was 200% win this match because Scarlet+Jackal > Scarlet without
surely it's also your jackal?
did my soda burst hit hard enough or did it crit LOL
japane Anise is different
you burst quicker thanks to jackal feed
enemy soda stun me first though
Did you win today though? I voted for you to win in my Union chat
but probably their scar died cuz no link
yeah see the full pic there
you use eng voices? I can't stand em in the game lol
i do
i dont mind it as much

JP cinderella is too smol sounding for me
Hello so I am interested in getting advice on creating a team for both rookie and sp arena, I do have all nikkes and resources so am just currently just trying to progress further in rankings.
-# I've been completely ignored 
Glad your HelmT won the stall war against ASS. That was the decider.
have helm treasured?
Yes.
if sanis team is not 2RL she'll die or get disrupt with helmT burst usually
The only treasure I don't have is diesel, exia and viper.
You attacking or defending
Attacking
attacking left side
Winning or losing 
see orange bar or blue bar in cheering
might need to shift position but u aint got mch options
So did your helm outright kill the link or not? Maybe we could use a video.
Anyway, congratulations
Delusion send da video 
okay I'll convert vid rn
might put scarlet last instead of position 2 mmmmm
You could check it yourself too. Since you are on his bracket. 
I'm sorry to ask this but...
-# Positions in arena do matter?
even without burst the jackal sanis emilia link might just die at 3RL time 
it does, prob put scarlet on last spot
since u dont got trina ur scarlet can die if p1

They didn't even had the chance to burst. So not even 2.5rl. How many ATK% your HelmT had btw?
I see...
rolled away for cs 
I will see what I can do for rookie arena with the team you provided me
But I'm assuming there's not much I can do in SP arena?
need to fix helm OL later
all units as in emilia?

Well, the important point is you kill them before their Jackal burst so they couldn't do Indom on XMaiden.
Nice win though, you destroyed them there.
I didn't have time to record my top64 rounds 
Iβm aiming for the silver cheer frame lol
btw here's the cin burst vs moran nero both 2.5RL probably
if siren bubble is more than 5% 
Couldn't be helped they they have a proper invested Nero team.
Debuffer maybe.
Would be unfair for Nero+moran builder if they released a clip RL debuffer with like 30% dmg taken though
Well all besides chainsaw man units.
make it so that moran nero can go 2RL would be fair enough imo
ur account is above my expertise then
prob should ask some people with emilia
Not much merit when Nero burst is pretty useless. Maybe Nero treasure that up her burst gen as well as her burst number.
yeah nero treasure increasing a bit more damage cut on her + allies can help + more gen on her own
Not even Ludmilla 
And some nuke dmg. + More healing on herself
and cat noises
They could make her Nuke 10000% and she would be able to nuke someone or even links

20000 to be absolutely sure
Ok guys, I'm going to login and see how I did lose
I'm sorry Eon 
Fk. I lost. AGGH. Hate.
And once more BECAUSE OF THE F BLANC, JUST ONE BLANC I'LL MURDER BLANC
Rip
thoughts? top attacker, bottom defender
personally thinking attacker will:
t1 win
t2 lose (hard to say if defender is actually 2.5RL from previous match, but from experience with this matchup I'm gonna say it's a loss)
t3 win (although defender team seems properly built)
t4 lose
t5 lose
@hollow lagoon I have your game in my cheer sights 

I need to vote on the loser lol
why u do dis tho
who do you think wins?
no gurantee i win tho
my first 2 teams gets wiped
is what i think?
my stall team might actually get derped by the cp pad 
@lunar pawn close fight
I prefer this the other way around (bottom attacker) as it matches what I see in the arena view π
did I get it right?
Nah you predicted I'd lose
t3 seems like loss since it's same speed, SBS will burst and die to Helm since indom is on Rapu so you have no burst Emi + LapT vs full stall set up with lifesteal
well I did say I could be wrong
congrats
Ty lmao. Imma go to work and take pics for today's fight 
rapu has more hp than sbs by default though, + she will heal on burst, think the indom will still go to her?
Waos

I re-ordered it
team 1 def? SG may kill rumani then Noise may taunt and die?
if both B1 dead then they can just clean up, depends how the taunting goes
if not then helm dies and lose a fair bit of burst gen before cindy can get a burst in here
think volley 1 will all go to rumani though
hmm might depend on cs then, if they get a shot to splash p2 again at 3.5RL after Rapu heals to full at 3.32 RL before B2 casts at 3.74RL
watch how their previous match 3 went for how well indom worked on blanc
hmm harder to calculate the shots past 2RL than I thought

it's not the cleanest

either way it'd be a difference from 2-3, to 1-4, attacker would still lose right? trying to get unlucky frame so I'm cheering for the attacker lol
Should I change the positioning on any units here?
@shell hazel do u think i win? 
battle I'm most divided on is t2, but I still think attacker loses it
Better luck next time
round 2 is also kinda RNG, if Noise is the one that has taunt prio on Siren and gets stunned before she can B1 then they actually do wipe to Trina Scar. Might have to check prev match to see whether who's grabbing it between her and Noah
they are not living to B2 if Rumani bursts
I haven't checked the teams yet, did you put a mock up on nikke deck?
u can do that?
<@&946725432554836008> this a new scam?
I don't get it but <@&946725432554836008>
it's effort to build them but I will in a bit just at work atm, I'd have to create the decks and add the units ofc lol
then you can do deck vs deck comparison
actually thinking of scarlet s2 triggering biscuit indom on cindy, and splash dmg triggering it on noah, and then living long enough to at least b1
I don't think I've ever seen Cinderella's decoy die to Scar s2 π€
she's always full HP in that matchup until she dies to the nuke
I remember running 2RL scar nukes and noah/cindy being invul before noah burst
only times where that fails is when you slap noise+rumani next to each other, or rumani+noah, then you're usually wasting the invul that would go to cindy
will try to record the last fight later to try to get a better comparison
that's good, there is a deck vs deck feature on the site also (dunno if you saw it)
if you've saved both you can add them to it and that does the auto comparison thing
it's in the menus
Thoughts on who wins this?
I'm guessing W, L, W, W, L in favor of the player on the right, but im not sure about team 3
@hollow lagoon left is only 4 teams as well missing 5th?
i think freeze will win
eh weird
holy 
you're bottom/attack?
i'm bottom
attack?
i have no clue
T1: Right
T2: Left
T3: Left
T4: Leaning Right (but Right messed up their team order big time)
T5: T4: Leaning Left (but Right messed up their team order big time) - again π
if you're on left/top on CA then attack
right/bottom then def
you're def
@swift mango 
frankly you did too but yours isn't as bad
I'm left. So you're telling me there is a chance π
Right won. So I'm good. 
your T1 may depend how well Anis dies lol
it's sac but their team is low dps
she's not been dying very well which is sad
I think Freeze will lose. 
yeah had same prob with midhara sac on my end
your t2 is at risk, your b1 are p4/p5 and they will hit you from that side
I think you lose t2
that's a given
That Freeze from Gunblaze union is so stronk no way he could lose. 
t3 it depends if siren stuns your Noah a bit...
Bet my arm and leg on him winning
if Noah bursts then you may be OK, if not it's risky
biscuit will burst no doubt there but their indom killing my team full of defenders is doubt
i literal just been through one last round
but noah bursted
I think freeze wins 
eh I think you may win 3 just due to biscuit and noah anyway
that's what i feel
does your noise take taunt from siren?
I think L L W W W
i'm actully not sure on p5 
stall team vs rapi is funny business
only if helm smite rapi off the planet
opponent team is slow + you got mana revive + potential rapu revive
depends how well your p5 does in general I guess
its been allright
they'll be mostly firing into nero + moran which has DR as well and will heal once biscuit wears off
beter than the indom that's for sure

I pulled jackal, should I replace anyone here?
manchor
<@&946725432554836008>
Thanks
idk but @umbral belfry Thanks
Thanks @hollow lagoon 
thanks @shell hazel
thanks @shell hazel
B
T
B
B
B
Bottom win.
thanks 
ah so blood thinks W L W W W vs my L L W W W π
what if W L L W W
the reason I don't like your p1 is because your sac will be too slow with opponent dps, and you'll kill rapu who'll just get revived lol
but remind me, does ros sac work for ANYONE dying?
yes
It's both stupid teams but Bottom burst at 2rl
@keen vapor gonna avenge you
On whichever team
ok so that may change your p1 a bit, if you kill rapu or anis dies you get burst gen

you could take 1 in that case

chance that mana cant res cuz rosana yeet buffs on 2 highest attacker and mana needs buff to res, tho chance that grave is out invested mana
63m 
you got a shot assuming someone dies early lol
either way I'm voting for your opponent for the fail but I think you win it
idk what to build tbh
This look like bad team building.
Indom on Emi instead.
Yeah
But burst with Anis
my drake T is still orange gear
ah I'm tired seeing wrong reply π
Yeah. But Rosy has.
yeah I thought you were replying to zant but then I realised I was being dumb
I need to boost LapT OL at some point soon 
she won't be much of a threat without any
most of my pvp characters have 1 piece of pink now
most of mine have all set but I don't have above +0 on any and haven't really rolled anything lol
gear fodder takes ages to get, at some point I'll want to +5 core pvp units and that will take even longer again than the first set did
because T9M to basic OL is less XP than +0 to +5
teach me the ways of ein 
Invest in Ein. Heavily. There you go, pupil.
Go fight an indom Water unit with 80% Ele.π
<@&946725432554836008>
what did I miss
Similar names getting me confused, who do I associate with enriched 
Miranda 7108 vs RH 101010 as buffer for nuke. Emi only 10% ATK line so RH's ATK buff is more potent.
Mine is 20% attack 
@lunar pawn who will win?
My cheer is Vaan vs Mao 
And for some reason Vaan looks like heβll lose but 78% of the cheers went to him
same, did an analysis above
#pvp-arena message there was some doubt on t2 and t3 predictions, but overall attacker should lose, lmk what you think @oblique ridge
Oh, nice
I might take 3-2
t1 depends on how built the teams are, but inclined towards you winning
t2 your loss (same match I reviewed above, there's potential for somehow biscuit protecting noah and cindy, and if a b1 somehow survives to burst it's gg)
t3 your loss
t4 your win
t5 your win (unless somehow indom lands on biscuit after/if sbs dies)
At face value, itβs:
R1: Top
R2: Top
R3: Bottom
R4: Bottom
R5: Bottom
Vaan is top, Mao is bottom. Had to include the commander names so I donβt get confused on who to cheer for.
R1 can be wrong if SGs dismantles the enemy. So would flip to Bottom.
R2 can be wrong if the nikke deck app lied and didnβt portray a successful Noah burst blocking Scarlet. So would flip to Bottom.
Itβs unlikely for the others to be wrong:
R3: It looks like Helm will burst nuke BScarlet, while their Rapunzel gets Indomitable (???).
R4: High confidence.
R5: High confidence.
Nvm just realized R5 is maybe a win for Top
Now I understand why more cheered for Vaan
Theyβre expecting R5 to unlink and kill Jackal
And the team has no other B1
you think jackal can die before 2RL b1 press due to the pressure?
uh no, don't expect people to be logical with their votes in CA lol
over half don't understand pvp, and then there's a portion (like me) going for unlucky frame 
Well, 13.2% feed has to occur before Rosanna unlinks
Then Jackal can burst and she can die all she wants after that
why people use Rosanna sometimes?
there's enough feed for sure, 4 SGs feeds 14.2% per volley
rosanna unlink doesn't matter, jackal feed activates on attacks against her, and she's in p1
SG team is attacking
might even feed to 1.5RL depending on cs
cuz they're feeding 42.6% by 1.5RL, if Emi shoots a second shot there it might be doable
doesn't seem like a weak jackal at least
I do think that it's more likely she's on quantum and not tempering
since it's Jackal
but it should be pretty safe
the smartest thing to do would be slap tempering on jackal there, considering she's in p1 and likely to get enough to at least 2RL in most fights
especially with no Noir on the enemy team
Iβll cheer Mao then. At least Doppel will get drunk with me off Scarlet wine if Iβm wrong because then he also screwed his cheer 
you'll owe me a stellar blade cd key, no problem 
Has anybody taken a look at aceross' matchup yet
I need need need the silver betting border I can't live without it
anyone know who wins this?
Share the matchups
I can't right now, but I know several of us are in that bracket so I was just wondering
feels so good to be able to bet without looking at matchups anymore 
there's a download image button
didnt see that
Btw in previous match, somehow Emilia survived vs Cinderella (likely Indomitable)
Top
Bottom
Bottom
Bottom
Top
So idk if it was freak luck or if itβs the HPs from Jackal link
thanks
just seems like improper link management tbh
Jackal, Blanc, XMaiden are all defender
so that leaves ASS and Emi as links
hmm. Looks like my team is more built
and Emi being attacker is naturally lowest HP
Should be indom, as the only attacker she has the lowest hp too
Makes sense, Emi is Attacker.. SAnis ain't, so she has a lot to overcome to steal the "lowest hp" status
So it seems like... SAnis bursts then dies?
Then Emilia wins with basic attacks powered by FB?
it depends on if it's fed to 1.5RL












Eon did lose as well


