pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

in my pg13 nikke gacha game? I wonder

[wicked horizon]

My Noah

Gets stunned by the enemy's Siren
Their Noah
Doesn't get stunned by my Siren

Defender's advantage fr

[crystal flicker]

CS

[wicked horizon]

Is this some magical timing that if Siren's 50th bullet hits cover, it doesn't stun anyone?

[raven plover]

you mean 50th but yes

50th siren hit is 33rd scar hit

[wicked horizon]

Cursed mechanics.

[oblique ridge]

Oh that's cool. Should also be true of any abilities that require a "hit" (and isn't piercing or a special AoE)

It also manifests in stage battles

Like if you wanted to do something while there are no enemies to hit, you can't if the ability specifies "hitting"

Hitting terrain obstacles might count though...? I don't remember. But that's like trying to stun the obstacle, in Siren's case. RIP. Just like trying to stun the Cover.

[wicked horizon]

So, Noah has to charge fast enough, but not too fast.
What's the range?
Does it differ between Rookie and SP? 'cause I heard the frame rate is different or something?

[wise horizon]

whats a good counter to Scarlet/Blanc/RH/HelmT/Jackal?

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Trina + Siren

Unless their Scarlet have low ammo

[wise horizon]

what about if you dont have trina?

[crystal flicker]

2RL Cindy Noah + Siren?

Siren to stun Scarlet and makes RH bursting instead, which shouldn't get the Indom and easily nuked

[raven plover]

noise, noah, helm, rapun, rumani

noah, rapun, helm, biscuit, centi

[wise horizon]

hmmm rapunzel....another nikke i dont have >.<

[wise horizon]

bit hard to achieve 2RL when running with Siren

[crystal flicker]

Wdym

[raven plover]

noise then

[crystal flicker]

But yes

2RL HelmT works too, as long as you didn't feed them to reach 2RL

2 Hours before CA grouping result, 3 hours before 64 brackets

[livid marsh]

No pvp unit from stellar blade

[fickle swift]

Hello guys can anyone recommend me a pvp defends teams? I've been hitted too many times lately

[wicked horizon]

idk, those look decent
Is the last team 3RL?

Make sure Jackal links to Scarlet, and not the other two attackers.
And put Jackal behind Red Hood. Preferrably even at P5. @fickle swift

[fickle swift]

It's 4 RL I can change the team to rapu and lap treasure but the outcome is still the same

[wicked horizon]

Defense is hard.
You can't win against opponents of equal power and equal knowledge.

[fickle swift]

It's actually like that yesterday but there's a chance that Trina died b4 bursting so I just swap her with jackal

[wicked horizon]

My Trina is not in the first 2 positions, which protects against rocket launchers.

But I don't even own Emilia, so idk.

[fickle swift]

Thanks for helping I might try swapping RH with maiden they might lose if I burst a bit faster

[wicked horizon]

It's 2RL either way, I believe.

[wild patio]

This guy is able to beat 30 lvl cp diff

[wicked horizon]

Not uncommon

[loud sonnet]

If you know what you're doing thing something like that

[wild patio]

I just got R doll for noah n upgraded it to lvl 10 will farm for SR one on next solo raid

gonna take it slowly this season

[wicked horizon]

Still hoping for an answer to this. 😔

[upper grove]

How fast is Siren stun, 2RL?

[wicked horizon]

Roughly

[upper grove]

Will B1 at 2RL speed burst before siren stun hits?

[wicked horizon]

Yes, but B2 will not.

[upper grove]

K then my team should still work

[quick lake]

To avoid Siren stun, u need 2RL B1 in P1

[onyx scaffold]

found a bot in global

[wicked horizon]

Noah still taunts though. 😔

[bleak shale]

considering siren stun happens just before 3rd RL, im pretty sure delaying noah getting shot for 1rl is enough to get 2rl noah off

like a few frames before 3rd shot goes off

[wicked horizon]

So I thought too, but it's not that Siren needs 50 shots, it's the 50th shot itself that counts.

[bleak shale]

[onyx scaffold]

huh i thought b1 p1 2.5 RL is already stunned before bursting?

[wicked horizon]

Should be?

[bleak shale]

theres a time between ur bar filling and it actually activating

but the stun happens a few frames before the 3rd rl is shot

[wicked horizon]

If the simulation is 30 fps for PvP...
Then an smg fires 15 rounds per second and takes 3.(3) seconds or 100 frames to stun.

But I don't know how fast a RL is.

[swift mango]

You should have just hit back asap. This is too sad to look at.

[wicked horizon]

I tried that already.

[keen vapor]

Guys is Raven A3?

[swift mango]

With gem

[wicked horizon]

They usually gem back.

[keen vapor]

Or Emilia 2

[swift mango]

Or just hit him then the guy 3 rank above him as once

[keen vapor]

In 36 seconds?

[swift mango]

I doubt even bot could be that fast. It's just how he got hit after his last claim

[wicked horizon]

Yeah, 36s is the most unfortunate I've been.

[swift mango]

If it's truly bot then it's easy. Just change your def.

[wicked horizon]

But <1 hour is very common. 😔

[swift mango]

That's normal when a guy online all the time or have script that sends notification him when he got hit. Or both

He should be likely PC players

[wicked horizon]

Eh, dw about it. It is what it is.

I'm more curious about things I can do something about. Like I found this math, but I don't quite get how it's calculated. (So I'm not sure if I should believe it.)
#pvp-arena message

[swift mango]

Idk about math but my actual testing it's true 11% is the break point.

For RL that is. For SR it's 5%.

[wicked horizon]

I thought SR and RL had the same timings.

[swift mango]

Different bullet speed

[wicked horizon]

But... why does the travel speed matter?
They go back to cover as soon as they've shot, not when the shot reaches, no?

[swift mango]

The burst gen only apply when the bullets hit

[wicked horizon]

As best as I understood, this is about making Siren shoot cover.

Not about bursting faster.

[swift mango]

It's about bursting faster

Shooting cover happened with the amount of bullet you have. It has nothing to do with RL speed. As no RL or SR has 3 bullets

[wicked horizon]

But they take cover for a non-insignificant amount of time between shots, no?

[swift mango]

No.

They only take cover when reloading

A 3rl p1 S.Anis won't be stunned no a matter the burst speed thanks to her using up her 5 bullets at 2.5rl and start reloading.

[keen vapor]

yet

You could with no ammo lines and Privaty/K

[swift mango]

Privaty has 60 bullets, nope

[keen vapor]

2RL Anis is a faker

[wicked horizon]

I wish I could look at some replays, but I'm pretty sure my Siren just didn't stun.

[keen vapor]

Oh, 8 am

Time to CA

[covert lintel]

I lost again
Bad match at start

Cause i didn't randomize the team order

[swift mango]

There are 3 common way to p1 not stun by Siren.

1- for p1 burst 2, 11% CS overall in 2rl team.
2- for any burst phasep1, reloading at 2.5rl
3- Taunter B1 in 2rl team like Moran.

[crystal flicker]

Proof that Quiry is stronger than La+

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel barely made it Lel

[raven plover]

what is that nero dmg diff

[wet crystal]

@umbral belfry @jagged mesa went as expected W,W,L,L,L

[swift mango]

It's mirror match

[raven plover]

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel looks like you made it too

[crystal flicker]

This absolutely bonkers, BSoda always stole SAnis indom

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

Well congrats to winning the league and lying yesterday

[raven plover]

I won?

[shell hazel]

tie-break my way to a win this time, still 3rd tie-break and I was yeeted on the other 2

time for a win for a change

[swift mango]

Why not?

[raven plover]

I feel like its gonna be 2 1 and Im losing the gacha

[swift mango]

Telling me your and his number of attacking win and defending wins please.

[hollow lagoon]

man my matches were so close but i made it

[shell hazel]

yeah I'll grab em one sec

[swift mango]

@keen vapor did you make it?

[daring remnant]

No freaking way. I actually made it out of groups

[swift mango]

gratz

[shell hazel]

I can't see their results ofc only my own

naturally I'm on attack on all 3 for some reason

[keen vapor]

Yeh

[pseudo gate]

Anyone has a counter suggestion for this?

[umbral belfry]

did you at least beat nalfen

all is forgiven

[wet crystal]

[umbral belfry]

2 rl scar siren jackal team with siren not in p1 or p2 to potentially stun noise instead of noah

check cp before fighting to male sure you're not cp gapped though

[crystal flicker]

Turns out my Rosa was this close from 1 tap any dps

[signal hull]

Eh? Siren positioning affect who she stuns?

[umbral belfry]

if for example, their siren was in p3-p4 vs p1 noah, that noah would always get stunned bc noise cannot reach siren from that position to stun her

and siren would only be hitting p1(noah here)

[signal hull]

x_x

Pvp too complicated, I quit.

[umbral belfry]

although, if their noah has 11 cs%+ it's doomed anyway

[pseudo gate]

I use this team but it’s not consistent

[umbral belfry]

is the noah getting stunned before she bursts?

I never bothered looking into sAnis counters bc I don't have her

[signal hull]

I'd probably just try same team but with HelmT being first to burst, to outheal. And no Jackal.

Err I mean same like his team. Noah/Biscuit/HelmT...

[pseudo gate]

It’s possible as I sometimes see sanis bursting

[pseudo gate]

Hmm might give it a try

[dim sapphire]

@swift mango what is your guy vs the tested dude result

[umbral belfry]

if it's true that their Noah is getting stunned after she already bursted, maybe stunning noise is the answer instead

[pseudo gate]

How do I aim for noise instead?

[shell hazel]

@umbral belfry you get through? 😮

[umbral belfry]

you would have to put siren in p1 or p2 (pref linked). idk bc i haven't seen the fights, but it seems like their Noah has more cs vs their noise possibly

and that team is possibly 2.5 (very close to 2)

[pseudo gate]

Win but quite close as heal was being cancelled by Noah invul. Probably win by cp gap as it was pretty close

[umbral belfry]

at 2.5 their b1 should be stunned

[signal hull]

A win's a win.

[umbral belfry]

yessir

[vague slate]

nice stuff zant

[pseudo gate]

Unfortunately didn’t work

[umbral belfry]

didn't kill SAnis and Noise?

best keep at reith's team then

[pseudo gate]

Yea somehow

Sometimes SAnis dies and it’s ok. But she does not consistently die

[stray bay]

Im curious tho, why didn't siren stun noise? Taunting timing?

[umbral belfry]

their Noah has taunt priority

[shell hazel]

[umbral belfry]

did you?

[hollow lagoon]

[unique wagon]

Emilia 2 buffer

If RRH is goated af, then RRH 2 buffer also works

[shell hazel]

yeah 🙂
I don't think my SBS indom misfired yet but I'll record and upload the runs later

[umbral belfry]

success

[pseudo gate]

Hmm so something like this?

[umbral belfry]

I think he meant emi buffs for your scar, but maybe I'm wrong

[shell hazel]

onto the next round

gotta back myself 🙂

[umbral belfry]

lock in

[upper grove]

Clean 3x 4-1 sweep in my group phase

[oblique ridge]

Arena results time

Time to collect data

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-do-my-best-cordell-walker-walker-texas-ranger-ill-do-whatever-it-takes-ill-try-my-hardest-gif-13260592482138837673

[oblique ridge]

Uh I think CD key from livestream didn’t work for rme

[upper grove]

Great I'm paired vs 2x finalist guy in top 32 again

[oblique ridge]

I lost. Boo

[jagged mesa]

Aw man, against aria?

[oblique ridge]

At least I got the data I was interested in. Looks like I have to redo my teams completely

[swift mango]

@keen vapor

My Scarlet also immune to this Siren.

[oblique ridge]

So apparently the player I was against also had a very powerful SG team.. My XMaiden died in one SG volley. Battle started, and pow. Dead Xmaiden Needed Biscuit

[signal hull]

I won! Woo! 4winsx1loss for all three! Damn right! Bots have lost!
Also I still hate Blanc.
I HATE BLANC.

[umbral belfry]

how were the investments

[oblique ridge]

MLB XMaiden, no doll, but even if there was one.. 2 SG volleys?

[umbral belfry]

no doll

[oblique ridge]

It’s just crazy because I don’t see that swift a death usually

[umbral belfry]

and how were the SGs?

[oblique ridge]

Oh right, I can check that too… one sec

[jagged mesa]

It's ok, for us pve leaning, this is the real starting point

In fact, it's even time for US to rise up against hime

[oblique ridge]

Max doll BSoda and Drake, 1.57k power BSoda, 1.52k power Drake, 1.47k power Noir with SR5 doll

[jagged mesa]

To the moon

[umbral belfry]

what I do

[jagged mesa]

Mom said it's folians turn to be c1

[umbral belfry]

oh yeah it was wraps 😭

[oblique ridge]

My SG team is actually stronger than that. RIP… it was sent against 3 Scarlet teams this time

[umbral belfry]

but I like my spot

[jagged mesa]

[umbral belfry]

[jagged mesa]

Where's that matrix meme maker

Folians: I get - c1
You get: spa testing rights

[umbral belfry]

[pseudo gate]

How does this normally look like? Just curious

[jolly maple]

toss coin says left

[jagged mesa]

Sry it wasn't matrix

[umbral belfry]

ironically enough I do need to do testing

[oblique ridge]

So basically I coulda won if my SG team wasn’t in that round Checked, seems like I’d get 2 wins if I simply moved it to another round I lost in

[umbral belfry]

and I can't in rookie bc yknow

[jagged mesa]

@wet crystal it's time for you to negotiate

[umbral belfry]

LMAOOOO

[jagged mesa]

Heck even I can't test in rookie

[shell hazel]

not sure on my next matches but I'll just back myself anyway. I'm def/bottom

[jagged mesa]

I sit and spam refresh just to have you perma take one of 3 spots, and everybody else has crown and rrh in their lineup

[wet crystal]

I like my 3k gems and minimal nibbles

[oblique ridge]

Onto the cheers

[umbral belfry]

my ankles

[umbral belfry]

give 17 cs rolls

[oblique ridge]

This guy is 100% vs 0% cheers

[wet crystal]

I lowered my rookie team cp to fish some attacks

[umbral belfry]

you

[halcyon zodiac]

come again to ask someone cook teams for pvp

[wet crystal]

See if I get a bite, went from regular 422k to 336k, it's a tested trap

[unique wagon]

That works but very risky (if Emilia is not highest attack, you might win). Safest is 2 buffers. Helm is half only. Full ones are Blanc, RH, Crown.

[signal hull]

Betting for or against oneself must be outlawed 😠

[jagged mesa]

Dang it my new defense holds against dkaze and osprey but now it doesn't hold against Chinese fella

[wet crystal]

Not good at cooking, but sync rumani as she's one of the higher tier units of great use for pvp

[umbral belfry]

I'd keep it as it is tbh. yeah losing def can suck, but the fact that the other 2 can't beat it is fine

but if 2 people could beat it I'd change it

[unique mountain]

Hell on earth
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1361204121654394961/1380927804979413093/Screenshot_20250607_204315_com.proximabeta.nikke.jpg?ex=6845a8bd&is=6844573d&hm=21f90bec8a249694f8e36a2466398275cfa2df597717010b64daf2acbf931754&

[wet crystal]

What Chinese running?

[umbral belfry]

Last I remembered his teams were

[jagged mesa]

Idk because I BEAT HIM INTO C4

[umbral belfry]

granted that was a long longggg time ago in my 1st sp bracket with ash

[jagged mesa]

Let's go stay winningggggg

[pseudo gate]

So something like I guess? Or should I drop biscuit for a burst gen?

[umbral belfry]

I just know dkaze/osprey are lying in wait for Chinese dude to beat you so they can snag c3

[shell hazel]

give Rumani

[jagged mesa]

I was knocked off 8 minutes ago, I caught it just in time to send a message

[umbral belfry]

tbh, for that trade I'd give you one rumani yeah

Anyway g2g now, the doggos need me

[halcyon zodiac]

at least i need 2 comp can be used for defense

[unique wagon]

Whats the enemy comp

[pseudo gate]

This one

[unique wagon]

Is this 3 RL

[pseudo gate]

Might be 2.5

[worthy knoll]

I cba on CA, been playing other games, just placed random bs

[jagged mesa]

Synchro 539 but incomplete treasure on helm is blasphemy

[covert lintel]

Finally i've got a taste of below 2rl speed

[swift mango]

So you didn't make it

[worthy knoll]

I surprisingly did for some reason tho

[unique wagon]

If this matches speed u are probably fine

[swift mango]

Just use your last season teams if lazy

[covert lintel]

Same, my placement is the same as previous CA so someone 5-0 me

[unique wagon]

U guys like CA?

Dead mode ngl

[swift mango]

U play nikke?

[worthy knoll]

Like how did I even won this

[pseudo gate]

Got it

[covert lintel]

How can p1 cindy win

[swift mango]

Just Mihara RNG win

[swift mango]

Team us your Midhara investment

[coarse lake]

[worthy knoll]

Yeah lets just add RNG on top on matching RNG

[unique wagon]

Bug Mihara

[worthy knoll]

Very bad actually, just 10% atk and 20% ele

[covert lintel]

Finally echo champion

[unique wagon]

Its bughara. Sometimes she one shots like that.

[swift mango]

Skill level, doll and lb?

[unique wagon]

We knew that already since her release there was another vid on my channel.

[covert lintel]

So it's the same as delta

[jagged mesa]

Midhara promoted to bighara

[swift mango]

Delta is a feature.

There is no inconsistency in her kits.

Just need to know how she work

[covert lintel]

It's just SU don't give a damn to fix it
I bet even midhara won't get fixed

[swift mango]

Now we just need to know what make Midhara on shot everything

But merry doesn't reply

@worthy knoll

[covert lintel]

It just show SU abandoned pvp mode
They will fix immediately if it were SR or UR

[jagged mesa]

2rl scarlet vs 2rl scarlet - 50/50 in selecting a winner? Assuming same invest

[wet crystal]

You can run T1 (little mermaid,scarlet,trina,centi,jackal) put a quantum cube on centi jackal to speed it up

T2 (noise,noah,cinderella,biscuit,rumani)

T3 (blanc,sbs,rapu,anis,noir) or a cp pad team

Getting Helm T and laplace T will open up more comps eventually

[halcyon zodiac]

i'm trying to get both of them

[jagged mesa]

I want Laplace T but you know my anxiety towards dolls 😔

[wet crystal]

Save for collab for now

[jagged mesa]

Big save

[halcyon zodiac]

try to overload all of pvp units is so hard

[jagged mesa]

How exactly does treasure elevate Laplace for PvP anyways

S2? Or does s1 range increase actually matter

[coarse lake]

s2

goes from last bullet to every bullet

[worthy knoll]

Oh I got distracted looking at laptops

[signal hull]

SCHEIßE!!
...I don't think I'll win next round T_T

[worthy knoll]

Was in a shop so I was looking at the prices

[jagged mesa]

What about s1 splash range, is that significant at all? Or what about burst, does lapt burst in pvp?

[worthy knoll]

10/4/4, SR5 doll, 0LB

[jagged mesa]

Wait if S2 is the big deal on lapt, doesn't that just make her... An xmaiden lite?

[placid bloom]

except she has attacker stats pre-burst whereas XMaid has defender stats

which makes a pretty big difference

her element is also better

there's very few water p1/2 compared to elec

[worthy knoll]

Its the reverse, Laplace is the real off burst dps, while XMaiden is the lite one..

[jagged mesa]

Isn't maidens S2 like... 5x lapT in value though

[raven sparrow]

Let's goooo! Qualified for my first Top 64!

[worthy knoll]

She is defender, low attack, and its only on one unit, its even tauntable.. like you are hitting Noise but S2 is hitting Noah

[jagged mesa]

O that's interesting

[raven sparrow]

...but my matched opponent is a former Top 8 and I stand no chance lol, too strong... Pretty sure I lose 3 if not 4 of the matches...

[worthy knoll]

Whereas, Laplace+ is attacker, applies to whoever she hits with her splash. And better element too.. and doesn't require to burst, XMaiden needs to burst to have pog damage as high as Laplace

[jagged mesa]

Wait so lapt S2 applies to multi target?

[fast skiff]

@swift mango heyy u online?

[worthy knoll]

Yeah, all she hits gets S2ed too

[jagged mesa]

Ok well that explains it

[placid bloom]

XMaid specifies 1 unit... with plural because copy pasta

[jagged mesa]

Yeah I thought lapt was also single hit

Now it makes sense

[fast skiff]

vs

who wins?

[jagged mesa]

Meanwhile lapt S2 description uses singular form

[keen vapor]

[raven sparrow]

Feels bad voting against yourself...

[swift mango]

I see you didn't spend to get those extra bingo chances.

and thanks

[swift mango]

yes. Did you win?

[fast skiff]

yea haha

[fast skiff]

^ thoughts ?

[swift mango]

@kind palm spotted.

[unique mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/homeless-nah-id-win-gif-11399565856913576326

[swift mango]

Did you won against that sg or lose?

[fast skiff]

nahh u were right haha i won this one instead i didnt rlly expect it to win

[swift mango]

who attacker and who defender?

[swift mango]

u killed their nero before they burst.

[fast skiff]

i did yes

[swift mango]

probably bad investment

[fast skiff]

what do you mean by this sorry

[swift mango]

are you top or bottom of your opponent?

Top-left is attacker.
right-bottom is defender.

just screenshot your bracket

[swift mango]

you are defender, remember my comment so you know how it goes next time.

[fast skiff]

ah thats why everyones cheering for the other guy

[swift mango]

p3: You win. You might burst with LapT result is low dmg though.
p4: Is your siren with tempering? You likely win if she does.
P5: you win unless, Mihara or LapT kill your Scarlet before she burst. Which is pretty high chance to happen.

[fast skiff]

sadly i dont have tempering on Siren i recently just started investing in tempering so i put it on noah moran and noise

and i placed siren on 4 so she can be safer if that helps

[swift mango]

it helps, hope rng be kind to you.

[fast skiff]

hows ur Champion Arena goin?

[swift mango]

I passed and got many good match up to test my new comps. Now I know to remove Viper from my sg team next CA.

[fast skiff]

les goooo

[pale knoll]

Cook me something for spa

[swift mango]

Midhara+Moran+Biscuit+flex+flex

flex

flex

[pale knoll]

Come on Mr pvp

[swift mango]

Hey I did my best without even knowing your box, you have one viable team now.

[pale knoll]

You know my box, we have been bros for a year

[umbral crown]

Fake bro confirmed

[pale knoll]

[swift mango]

You how is your CA going? @pale knoll too?

[umbral crown]

Have not logged yet, let me check

[pale knoll]

Me what

[swift mango]

You should be in CA, right?

[pale knoll]

What does that have to do with spa defense

[swift mango]

I just wanted to know if you passed the league.

[pale knoll]

Not anymore

[pale knoll]

Any new spa cook then?

[swift mango]

Post your box sort by power and our real Arena MA @umbral crown will cook for you.

Unlike echocho

[pale knoll]

I'm not good enough for you?

[swift mango]

If you wanted to I could cook for you. Beware that you maybe have to wait longer.

but still need box.

[pale knoll]

Alrighty, cooks for three of my accs

[swift mango]

post your box and I pin you when I'm done. Beware I won't take responsibility if my cook doesn't work.

[pale knoll]

Oh ofc thats fine

[umbral crown]

As expected

@swift mango you going with same teams this season?

[swift mango]

No, with totally 5 different teams. Because I wanted something new.

The league was a good test experience.

[umbral crown]

Indeed

[swift mango]

I got like 10 good match up here.

[umbral crown]

Im running different teams this seaosn as well, also before CA got some clips to 17%

[swift mango]

More than the entirety good match up of my 2nd season.

[umbral crown]

CA good source of info about teams

[umbral crown]

[kind palm]

I survived cuz running moran biscuit sanis where sanis is equipping tempering

[swift mango]

My Rossanna team did badly. What no xAnne do to a Mfk

[umbral crown]

We going the keripo way i see

[swift mango]

Anyone know when the next batch of treasure come?

[vagrant ravine]

i was wonder wh this team can counter almost everyteam i have

any idea to counter this team?

[swift mango]

Because he is Konami, no need to explain jack

[swift mango]

Just do 2rl scar Trina with p1 being a linked Siren. Or you could even put a fake B3 there to be stun.

[pale knoll]

@swift mango

[vagrant ravine]

like this?

[swift mango]

Arknight music is cool. Just a random event and much better than anything Nikke offered in a year.

[swift mango]

You don't even have Jackal?l

[vagrant ravine]

yes i do had

just think RH buff is better but maybe jackal is better

[swift mango]

Who is linked between Scar, RH and HelmT?

Just do

Jackal+Trina+Scar+Siren+LapT/DrakeT/RH if you don't know.

[ashen ocean]

looks like i got lucky on Rosanna

[swift mango]

Full version

[swift mango]

Yes, you did

[ashen ocean]

helmet has CRate and ATK, no ELE for the moment but the OLs are pretty lucky on her so far

[vagrant ravine]

got it i try it tmr

[umbral crown]

summer

[shell hazel]

1 https://youtu.be/bGewnBwckRY?si=-OFF0GYHOe_RXCVI&t=13 Indom (RH) - Sac failed
2 https://youtu.be/bGewnBwckRY?si=TnIXEU4FOYDOpbwH&t=47 SG + Ros
3 https://youtu.be/bGewnBwckRY?si=kJ-Mwm0PA9-zHwXp&t=80 Nero + Moran + Helm stall - SG into Nero + Moran on attack gg
4 https://youtu.be/bGewnBwckRY?si=AGqlxb02AQK9fxRd&t=118 Scar + Trina + Siren - Opponent Scarlet avoided stun by low ammo
5 https://youtu.be/bGewnBwckRY?si=JVMSkdJ9yzBALxQ8&t=149 Cindy + Noise + Bay - Opponent team is a mess

1 https://youtu.be/iWH2PX42Z6I?si=Vk8FLDhVac_OLOx4&t=11 Cope
2 https://youtu.be/iWH2PX42Z6I?si=Ig9JKUXVjSsylEWd&t=42 Cope
3 https://youtu.be/iWH2PX42Z6I?si=OiNTltTt3dobXgB-&t=74 Cindy Cope - Opponent team is a mess
4 https://youtu.be/iWH2PX42Z6I?si=3Zzqfs8lWX25Jvqd&t=106 Scar + Blanc + Trina - Why both?
5 https://youtu.be/iWH2PX42Z6I?si=0c8J3Q0QiXcziFfj&t=138 Noah + SBS + Biscuit - SBS into Defender + Biscuit gg

two of my opponents 3rd one I just swept 5-0 not worth posting really

my team 1 failed sac on all 3 goes lol, maybe SR-5 on midhara is an issue for this comp

I lost 3-2 on top set, but not due to investment just counters in right places I suppose

[glad glade]

Rosa team (attacker) wins against Siren team (defender) correct?

[glad glade]

Both are naturally 3 RL

[placid bloom]

@umbral belfry I didn't even look at the team, I trust you

[spiral onyx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWAhQDNCPiQ

[vapid lake]

i got a free win through CA group stages this season because of unfair bracket w/ account creation date

the other 2 guys didnt stand a chance with less units and resources

[swift mango]

Yes

[glad glade]

Perfect, thanks

[coarse solstice]

Yoooo they did it!!!! TY SU 🥹

[raven sparrow]

this omega leviathan in my SP group just sits at #1 doing nothing taking up a spot, is more than 130 levels higher sync than me with nearly everything maxed c7... (more than 100 SYNC levels higher than everyone actually lol........)

and yet he always loses every single champion arena in qualifiers, and quite badly too (didn't even win a match)...

wish he didn't just auto take up a slot if he doesnt even care about it

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Did Rapipi get into news for rapi the commander and needed her eyes to be hidden?

He will get to top 64 once day noon or evening, trust

[swift mango]

Anyway, I would propose and "CA slot give away system", where the CA qualification players could pick someone else in their SpA and give their slot to that player instead.

That would make players who dont care about CA still get the gem, but give out their chance to other players.

[raven sparrow]

i censored the eyes for fun as a joke since i was doing the name anyway haha XD glad someone noticed at least haha

[raven sparrow]

yeah i dont know if he doesnt care or is just bad, but with him with almost all banner units at C7, a 100+ higher sync level than than everyone else (doesnt matter in champ arena though), and probably all skills maxed you would think he could sslap together some cookie cutter team comps and at least qualify once for top 64...

i ahve a feeling he's one of the "lazy whales" lol probably doesnt care XD

[grizzled bone]

[swift mango]

Nah all skill max is impossible at his synch level even if he bought out everything.

I doubt even day one whale player who hit level cap and bought every skill books from cash shop has every character maxed skill. Not to mention OL level 5 on everything.

[keen vapor]

[raven sparrow]

ahh i see, it was just my assumption i have no clue how far you can go whaling lol, i just know he pumps so much that he's 100 sync levels above everyone else (and 130 above me and im not a slouch/slack... active and leading all ranked categories in my sub-server tower/development/hard mode etc)

[swift mango]

Synch level mean nothing if they don't have the investment and knowledge. Especially investment.

[raven sparrow]

yeah you're right, probably investment and knowledge

but again my frustration goes to the fact that he auto takes up a qualifying slot for champ arena 😦

[daring remnant]

Do I lose here? (Im on top)

[raven sparrow]

and im not sure if he cares about it lol

[umbral crown]

top 64?

[daring remnant]

I feel like its L, ?, L, W, W

[keen vapor]

Yes

I'm unsure about my next match though

[umbral crown]

you win

[umbral crown]

show opponent teams

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

I'm on @coarse lake bracket!

[copper creek]

how to spa when in penalty

[swift mango]

you actually have higher chance to win

[swift mango]

it was their bad from putting Centi p1

[daring remnant]

that's good to hear

[upbeat frigate]

can someone help me with pvp teams?

[keen vapor]

Next time I'll turn on PC mode on browser

[umbral crown]

you pass to 32

weird teams you fighting there

[keen vapor]

Yeh I can see 3 wins clearly

[umbral crown]

cooking

[raven sparrow]

i got equally as unlucky with my top 64 opponent match up as i got lucky with my qualifying group

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[keen vapor]

pls duel with Eon

[raven sparrow]

im on t he other side of that being the guy with the weird teams and free win my opponent is getting im sure lol

[swift mango]

cn name gonna win.

[keen vapor]

pls no

So close yet so far

[eager mountain]

[runic coral]

to find jackal's partner, do I just add atk% overload to base atk?

[eager mountain]

yes but just use union practice range

[swift mango]

just come to shooting range with that team, pause and check skill

[runic coral]

wait, genius

[eager mountain]

there are atk buffs like mana's that activates at the beginning of the match and count toward initial atk

[swift mango]

ohhh

tibi , hi

[eager mountain]

[swift mango]

[pale knoll]

[eager mountain]

didnt blood also wanna drop the game months ago

[pale knoll]

Hate/love relationship

[umbral crown]

i just check the total attack of the units in the team, the 2 highest those are

[runic coral]

yea but 3rd highest atk is taking jackal's link instead of the 2nd one

[swift mango]

I have seen a sr15 bricked scarlet where Liter and Biscuit take the link instead of her

[eager mountain]

those doro stickers

[runic coral]

rip, but I'm just trying to figure out how much I have to reroll to get scarlet to link instead of helm and rh

[umbral crown]

steal all doros

[eager mountain]

if they are close and u wanna skip rerolls, u can try unequip cubes and get scar the highest lv cube
note that even if it works, its sync dependent

[runic coral]

hmmm, that's actually a good idea, I'll try it

[umbral belfry]

I just checked now but it should be my win for t3-t5. the only potentially dicey one is t4 but all of their SGs are poopy

[runic coral]

aaah it's not enough 😔

[eager mountain]

581 and still spA bricked

gotta love JP

[oak gale]

after the win border

against

anyone knows who wins?

[pale knoll]

Me puedes cocinar una defensa

[raven sparrow]

if i'm at 136 gen (3RL) with one of my teams and i have adjutant on noah and biscuit, i won't be losing any break point removing that from them and putting like endurance on biscuit and temperance or something on noah will i?

will it make their charge / burst gen too slow?

[eternal finch]

Recommendations for SP DEF? I just maxed Quantum Cube

[tardy canopy]

No burst

Almost losing to a squad with 50000 less CP than mine

[wind kelp]

Well, that was interesting, 3 losses in CA, just due to rng with teams :p Ah well, getting A border atleast!

And honestly, after just a year of playing (since re:zero), i'm pretty happy with myself for getting that far, or being in top 4 at all. Fun bonus, on to the next!

[raven sparrow]

yes probably weird team i dont know lol, just need to know if it's okay to put endurance on biscuit or something and tampering on noah without losing too much burst speed (and removing adjutant from both)

[jagged mesa]

yall whats a good 2rl sbs indom lineup for rookie defense, with consideration for possible siren matchups

Jackal p1 sbs p2 blanc p3 Thelm p4 battery p5?

[umbral belfry]

that should work yeah but my only concern would be jackal possibly getting indom instead

sbs p1 is preferred but with siren there I can see why

[jagged mesa]

Would that even be possible with link?

[umbral belfry]

I've seen it happen from others but I can't comment on it personally

maybe if your jackal is severely undergeared compared to sbs

even non optimal would be best since jackal has a defender naturally has more hp vs sbs

but better safe than sorry

regardless I'd steer clear of putting sbs defense on rookie, even 2 rl indom can still be hard countered by noah/moran + bisc

thankfully I don't think most people have noah in our bracket so yoy might be safe there

[jagged mesa]

I'm pretty certain that person I'm warring against doesn't have Noah, so I wanna abuse that for as long as possible

This is for ASH

[umbral belfry]

then by all means

[jagged mesa]

He keeps slipping by my other 2rl defenses

[umbral belfry]

you can try it out at least yeah

[jagged mesa]

Welp... Time to gear exp dump blanc right before collab

[umbral belfry]

[loud sonnet]

@wild patio

[placid bloom]

Helm should be p5 to prevent snipers shooting p5 because she will guaranteed be linked.
Whoever is in p4 needs to have high enough Def (calculate doll passive + endurance cube) to not get targeted by SBS 3rd slash in the mirror match.

[jagged mesa]

O right

[placid bloom]

it does have weaknesses like with every other comp

loses to Rosanna dispelling link since Jackal will get indom

putting SBS p1 plays around Rosanna but loses to Mermaid + AoE because even if SBS gets indom, she can't clean up without burst

[jagged mesa]

I won't have to worry about Rosanna in this bracket

[placid bloom]

I do think built Rosanna is a lot less common at our sync so you play around Mermaid

[restive willow]

Jackal doesn't always get indom because rosanna is prob gonna hit sbs and helmt pretty hard, with helmt prob dying

[jagged mesa]

Do you happen to know what sbs' hitcount is in a 2rl setup? As in, how many hits before burst, and which hit effect is the first hit after burst

[umbral belfry]

you might, but whether the rosa is good is another question

[placid bloom]

she will do 3rd slash before 2RL FB, I don't remember if bursting resets the proc count

[jagged mesa]

I should check actually, I'm really only warring against one person anyways

[placid bloom]

I can test it in shooting range later

[jagged mesa]

I'll record next time I test

[placid bloom]

just manual her in shooting range and count your slashes

[jagged mesa]

I also want to test if the burst effect is snapshot at rocket hit or initial release

E.g. non-burst rocket released, then burst 3 & full burst, then said rocket lands

[placid bloom]

the window is pretty small for that, bullets travel very fast

[jagged mesa]

Yeah

It'll be hard to test

Prolly inconsequential

Nvm I don't even have enough gear fodder to OL blanc

Well this plan is on hold

[placid bloom]

okay I believe she does 6th slash at 3RL which is right before B3, so her first slash at FB will be 9th slash AoE

[jagged mesa]

Good to know

[worthy sorrel]

Oh cool! McFly, I know you from our nikke friends list. great to see your name in the brackets

I don't remember when we added each other as friends, but grats yo! have a good tournament 🎉

[daring remnant]

Ayyeee, I appreciate it! I believe it was about a week or 2 ago thay we added each other

[coarse solstice]

Cone and Char aren't slouches either good stuff!

Cone holds down second in my SP Bracket

[daring remnant]

Thanks! I was surprised I beat Char ngl

[coarse solstice]

Before we new that there wasn't power level deficits we thought char would own our bracket

[daring remnant]

Maybe I can luck my way into top 8

[umbral belfry]

If we both make it, it's us then

[placid bloom]

well you do have a bot next match so that one's free

[umbral belfry]

best of luck to you onwards

[daring remnant]

That would be so hype

You too!!

[umbral belfry]

[coarse solstice]

Hey check your dms 😁

[umbral belfry]

oh sorry, 1 sec!

[shell hazel]

this @signal hull ?

[umbral belfry]

@clear folio out of curiosity, did you face the winner of group 29?

[signal hull]

Yeah this is me.

[shell hazel]

@umbral belfry @coarse solstice what you think of my matchup next? I'm bottom/def

[umbral belfry]

what the heck is that t1 sir

[shell hazel]

I feel it's L W L L ?

yeah it's not great I was trying a new thing but the sac failed 3 times lol

[umbral belfry]

I don't think mihara's DoT will be effective against a stall/sustain team

[shell hazel]

I was using this CA to experiment with midhara sac and separate SG team basically

[pure moss]

am I cooked?

[shell hazel]

so midhara sac failed 3 times, but my SBS indom worked 3 times so I feel that was a decent experiment 🙂

guess SBS indom may die to scarlet counters if anis/neon take too much damage

[raven sparrow]

i've got sub 15% votes haha XD we're both cooked 🍻

[pure moss]

lemme check the comps

[umbral belfry]

L L (I don't think 2.5 noah will be fast enough to catch a 2 rl scar, but maybe I'm wrong, if i am wrong than W) L L rng

I fear it's not looking good for you

[placid bloom]

Noah will be stunned anyway, Mermaid is p3 so she's not taunted by Noise

you have to be able to tank the nuke with just Noise B1

[shell hazel]

no I kind of expected it

[umbral belfry]

even if you do win t2 it's looking gg :(

[quick pivot]

Hmmmmm, possible for me to beat this in SP?

[shell hazel]

deadge I think

[umbral belfry]

although I don't have knowledge to see if moran and manchor can tank cindy

i don't think so?

[shell hazel]

nah maybe super built, but doubt mine will

SR-15 etc

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

nah, Moran might live but your waters are dead for sure

[umbral belfry]

oh right the ele

well hippo.

[shell hazel]

ah it's cool, I was trying some stuff out and I think it's been useful seeing how they go

[umbral belfry]

luck was not on your side this run I fear

[shell hazel]

without rumani I still can't really cook 5 great teams

but I could run 2.5RL Cindy, 2RL Scarlet, 2RL (ish) with feed SBS indom and a SG team so my 5th team is more into questionable territory next time

[pure moss]

who's winning?

[shell hazel]

my SBS indom lost to biscuit + noah so not a bad team to lose to, it won the others

I'll do the usual SG + Ros next time

[placid bloom]

hmm t1 might win, I think Mihara dies to HelmT and then Rosanna can one-shot her

there's no Rapu revive since Moran is bursting

Idk if Nero dies to Ros though

[shell hazel]

true. if Helm dies there is a chance

[placid bloom]

depends on their invest

if they still manage to get Nero off it might be a bit rough since Moran might be able to just solo you

[shell hazel]

i'll have a look

eh kinda garbage except helm tbh

[placid bloom]

Nero should die with Helm then

[shell hazel]

problem I've had is mihara doesn't die so no sac, it's happened 3 times now

[placid bloom]

so they can't FB

well that Helm might have some ele dmg if you're lucky

[umbral belfry]

oh...not invested 😭

[placid bloom]

big IF

[shell hazel]

no but even without invest I don't think my midhara dies

[umbral belfry]

People sure do love putting noninvested nero in ca

[umbral belfry]

who's attacking

[placid bloom]

oh wait nvm their Helm is shooting p5, I forgot you're defender

[pure moss]

how to tell?

[umbral belfry]

even if your mihara dies that stall team should outheal it

[placid bloom]

your Mihara isn't dying

[umbral belfry]

you're attacking (youre on left)

[pure moss]

ah

[shell hazel]

yeah, so no sac, my ros needs a bit more work I'll OL her last bit before next CA and try and get another atk roll at least

[umbral belfry]

so then the top team you posted is yours?

[shell hazel]

was going to see what the sb collab units are like and if I can get LapT ready

[pure moss]

yes

[umbral belfry]

1 sec

[oak gale]

which wins?

[umbral belfry]

T1 SGs hitting lap

[pure moss]

I also have higher investment

[umbral belfry]

Leaning L but a W is possible (investments will play a big part on both side, but SGs hitting your Lap is oof. but if youre stall team have good investments you might win)
W if Noah stunned, L if not
W
? (someone else would have to answer. no emi in my bracket so I'm not 100% sure how her burst nuke works vs a faster Noah team, sorry)
L

pray Noah is stunned

but considering how they positioned their noise it's likely they anticipated that

[oak gale]

@umbral belfry any idea which one of these two wins?

[umbral belfry]

p1 lap and p1 bay

whos attacking

[oak gale]

how do i know 💀

[umbral belfry]

left attacks

but God that ratio 😭

[pure moss]

let me take more pics

[oak gale]

ye , am tempted to follow it buut i said i should ask first since im after the winning border , already got the losing border

[umbral belfry]

reith wins. t3 ends it. if their bay wasn't p1 they mightve won

[pure moss]

do you want me to take pic for the rest of them?

[oak gale]

okay thanks
until tmr

[umbral belfry]

your stall team

their SGs are a bit scary though

I think your investments for your stall will be the determining factor. but Lap is likely

[pure moss]

they might take team 5

[umbral belfry]

t5 should be a loss for you yeah

2 rl scar vs 3 rl blanc sbs

I guess you gotta gamble if they know what they're doing with their Noah and noise cs speed

[pure moss]

ig I'll cheer for myself

[umbral belfry]

or better yet if their Noah has 11 cs they just get stunned after they already bursted, so it would be a loss for you

still try to ask around for the emi fight though

[umbral crown]

Si , donde tu caja

[umbral crown]

Lv15?

[pale knoll]

#pvp-arena message

Ty in advance

[umbral crown]

Whats your current defense?

[pale knoll]

Cindy 2rl, scar blanc, sbs noah

[umbral crown]

I see will try something different

[pale knoll]

[tropic summit]

multiple ways to approach this one, i'd go with these, ensure you're not on deficit although you shouldn't as you're on similar synchro

your teams are on the left

[quick pivot]

Ty

[crystal flicker]

I think it'll be B B T T B

I might lose to the same guy as S4 at top 16

[umbral belfry]

Rail is back

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/what-salvatore-nani-gif-22914946

[loud sonnet]

He attcked before reset

[wild patio]

[umbral crown]

is your emilia 21%? you have any clips with 17 cs?

[pale knoll]

No and no

[umbral crown]

[pale knoll]

Dont worry about it too much, spa defenses dont really work anyways. Just something that may work works

[umbral crown]

[pale knoll]

[clear folio]

i think so lol

[umbral crown]

☆☆☆ SP Defense ☆☆☆
Noah/Ein/HelmT/Red Hood/Emilia
SBS/Blanc/Rapipi/Noir/LaplaceT
Scarlet/X.Maiden/Centi/DrakeT/Jackal

[swift mango]

This is the worst helm team I have ever seen

[umbral crown]

team has potential but their units not well invested

i fought against same team but more invested and survived cindy nuke

[lunar pawn]

think I'll try to go for the loser frame this time

[umbral crown]

if i lose in top 64 will go for that frame

[swift mango]

"Not well invested" is overstatement, more like zero investment

[umbral crown]

we have to be polite

[swift mango]

That's why you MA. I don't have to do that.

[umbral crown]

but you are enriched

[lunar pawn]

top attacker, bottom defender

thinking attacker will:
t1 lose
t2 lose
t3 win
t4 lose
t5 lose

so just vote for attacker to ensure I'm on track for unlucky frame right?

[pale knoll]

Secret cooks?

[umbral crown]

probably

[pale knoll]

What's the thought behind t2 tho

[umbral crown]

P1 preassure, rapipi having advantage over 2 ele and the last high cp team

[pale knoll]

Hmm fair enough

Many thanks

[onyx scaffold]

Lmao

[umbral crown]

de nada

thats why being in 1st position matters

i saw the video and he using same teams

[eternal finch]

Yup. LVL 15

[umbral crown]

waos

12 slots for quatum

hows your tempura cube

[eternal finch]

I think 6-8

[umbral crown]

lv11 is 8 slots

[eternal finch]

Bastión and Res lvl 11

[umbral crown]

i see, so what was the last defense you used?

[eternal finch]

One sec

[umbral crown]

guess at this point your rivals have seen many variations in your teams but we can always try something different and hope for the best

[eternal finch]

These 2 mainly

[umbral crown]

i see, its always the same person attacking you or more than 2

[undone crystal]

Is there, like, a list of which unit is worth using skill manuals on? Other than nukers ofcourse

[atomic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/giant-dad-git-gud-scrub-gif-5316883

[eternal finch]

Same, we are fighting #3 spot on the ladder

Willing to max out Bae and Moran too if necessary to try stuff

[crystal flicker]

How many bullets Cindy shoot after 2RL mark?

[umbral crown]

Does that person gems?

[umbral crown]

Moran worths but bay .. do not have much info about her with skills higher than 4

[crystal flicker]

So I got the result

2.5RL Cindy with 21% Noah vs 2RL Scarlet
It's freakin 99.9% gen

[gritty ridge]

Could I get some help with building my sp arena teams?

[umbral crown]

Will think in teams for you, soon will tag you again with them

[umbral crown]

Start sending your nikkes,at nikke tab on lobby, in-game settings > nearby > horizonal if on mobile and sort by power only.

follow this steps to give you the suggestion.

[eternal finch]

Like use Gems for extra attacks? Sometimes

[umbral crown]

☆☆☆ SP Defense ☆☆☆
Scarlet/X.Maiden/Trina/DrakeT/Jackal
Noise/Siren/Cinderella/HelmT/Noah
SBS/Blanc/Emilia/Red Hood/LaplaceT

[umbral crown]

☆☆☆ SP Defense ☆☆☆
Noah/Noise/Cinderella/Biscuit/Centi
Blanc/Ein/Red Hood/Bunny Soda/Noir
Moran/Helm/Bay/Rapunzel/Drake

if team 3 is too low cp just press auto.

also for doll investment dolla does not really need it, it could be for Ein, Red Hood,Cinderella, Helm .

[gritty ridge]

I really wish I could take it off dolla believe me

[umbral crown]

but its fine, you will keep getting more doll kits

you can start treasuring Helm

try to max doll her next time when you have the chance

[gritty ridge]

That's the hope

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Idk if this is strong enough to use tbh

Cp wise

Well it's stronger overall than what I originally had and it's better built

[eternal finch]

Will test it out thanks!

[green summit]

I'm close to believing it's impossible to get the gold or silver frame.
Any idea who will win?
1 - Right, outspeeds
2 - Right, outspeeds?
3 - Left, outspeeds?
4 - Right, Noah blocks and BS clears? (Not very sure)
5 - Left, outspeeds?

Any better guesses on who will win each round?

[umbral crown]

give a try, if not you can ask again and i could do teams based only in cp

[wild patio]

[umbral crown]

try to invest in Ein, its the key to have a better chance to defend having more units invested

[wild patio]

there goes my free daily attempts

[umbral crown]

attack back

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-mortal-combat-gif-13400413460145425270

[loud sonnet]

Rain will attk him if he do that

[umbral crown]

just repeat till rain is out of gems

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/no-duh-why-didnt-i-think-of-that-donald-kimball-gif-14910705

[eternal finch]

I used to have her maxed out but I never got recommendations. Basically apparently she wasn't part of the meta

[umbral crown]

[wild patio]

[umbral crown]

then we just force her to be meta

[loud sonnet]

Why not attk jr instead?

[eternal finch]

would need to max her doll

[gritty ridge]

Im definitely gonna try it out tmr, ik my account is kinda ultra skewed towards pve

[wild patio]

hes like michel but always active every hour checking his ranks

while hsy has some patterns on weekdays

besides rain has been too comfortable on his C2 since I am at same pools at him

[umbral crown]

its fine, just need to keep upgrading your units

[wild patio]

he might not been bother looking at pvp for a while

[umbral crown]

your emi has 21% charge speed?

[wild patio]

Should I roll my emilia gears for 21% charge speed?

[umbral crown]

nice

[umbral crown]

lv400+ and no having emi emi 21

this is why your rivals win, go go make her 21

can you tell me your current defense, to not give you the same

[onyx scaffold]

Skill level? Her skill gives some charge speed

[wild patio]

so many rocks needed

[wild patio]

[umbral crown]

good, no bricked by skills

[onyx scaffold]

U aim for the next breakpoint?

Her skill gives 13% cs
You have 10% cs
So 23% total rn

[wild patio]

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-avengers-endgame-old-man-i-dont-think-i-will-gif-14669627

[umbral crown]

withS1 yours is already 21

but the more the better

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/eve-stellar-blade-nod-jeremiah-johnson-nod-of-approval-gif-3515969958370481468

[umbral crown]

emi is legal, 21

[wild patio]

lemme try roll on this once

[onyx scaffold]

36% Emilia is as good as running two Centi in your team. 🤣

[umbral crown]

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-rumpelstiltskin-toes-feet-excited-gif-25566522

what bs is this

[umbral crown]

A normal thing when you roll

[wild patio]

this ok?

[umbral crown]

got it, will give you something different

[wild patio]

UWOO

Now I have like what? 25%?

26%

🥀

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-punch-ground-punching-ground-it-shouldve-been-me-it-shouldve-been-me-not-him-gif-18069003738146878767

[wild patio]

my top 5 strongest nikke rn

I wanna get that scarlet racer skin but not sure if i will buy the SB game or through gacha skin roll

[atomic wolf]

@umbral belfry i lost

gl with your bracket

[north brook]

might as well buy the game lol

[loud sonnet]

Gacha roll

Here's mine

[umbral belfry]

sorry

[loud sonnet]

Still no max core nikke

[atomic wolf]

its not your fault lmao

[keen vapor]

@umbral crown Dirk is getting tired of me

He opened cases for 5 level ups

[keen vapor]

@stuck parcel sorry but if you get him again he'll be very pissed off and more whaled account

[umbral crown]

☆☆☆ SP Defense ☆☆☆
Blanc/Emilia/Red Hood/Biscuit/Jackal
Noah/Noise/S.Anis/X.Maiden/LaplaceT
Rapunzel/Centi/Cinderella/HelmT/DrakeT

[umbral crown]

sounds like my boi weij, he went from 414 to 421 in a day

but besides the whale, nobody can cp gap me yet

[keen vapor]

Good

[umbral crown]

they are 401+ tho

im 382

[stuck parcel]

@keen vapor Uh oh WHAT YOU DONE DID?

[keen vapor]

Beating him over and over at 444
He's 496 now after Collab he'll be on 501

[umbral crown]

let me fix

[keen vapor]

I'm also getting to top 32 and he probably didn't make it out of league

[umbral crown]

fixed

[umbral crown]

i wanna be 501 too

[stuck parcel]

Damn, you got in his head.

[umbral crown]

i recommend you to invest in Ein

[keen vapor]

Who can I*

[umbral crown]

for that would have to re build your teams

[umbral crown]

can you?

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

but give a try and see how it goes

[umbral crown]

would you?

[keen vapor]

Could

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Next is chapter 32 you know

Oh, we finally got the chips

[umbral crown]

after that long

[keen vapor]

I can get more padding now

[umbral crown]

i wanted them before CA, no after

[keen vapor]

SU rejected your petition

Ig is more fair

[umbral crown]

imma talk with them

i could have had 2 more quatums in CA

[wild patio]

[keen vapor]

Imagine having only one day to get extra ele for next batch

[umbral crown]

i wanted to c7 helm with gold tix but stellar blade is here

[umbral belfry]

both eve and raven iron

surely good for pvp surely

[swift mango]

Because I'm enriched more so

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

i would say mostly Raven but we need to get more info of the kits

just buy them her skins and thats a moral support to win

its what makes a pvp unit storng, nice costumes

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

thats why my Ein kills anything

[umbral belfry]

i never played stellar blade before but raven does look pretty nice

[umbral crown]

i love her voice

sounds hawt

[umbral belfry]

how did your cindy + bisc live

[umbral crown]

that cindy team is the new trend in my CA

[umbral belfry]

oh i was under the impression that noah didn't get her burst off bc most died

[umbral crown]

but my ein team just killed without any issues

[umbral belfry]

one day i'll level up ein

[swift mango]

they just face tank the nuke. Some underinvested scarlet there.

[umbral belfry]

alas

still weird that bisc lived though

[swift mango]

she is supporter and had good defense, hp. Not attacker.

[umbral belfry]

fair

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet really nuking in the middle of Noah delay

[swift mango]

@umbral crown

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1361204166919458896/1380937266234392586/URfH2CZtf3.jpg?ex=68465a4c&is=684508cc&hm=5decb6ff32e8fc1c571639916eba727be31938b0186bc10709b7625933d38afc&

who do you think would win, left or right?

Everyone else as well, if they could help.

[swift mango]

more like she nuke before Noah even burst. Unless both your Noah and Rumani has 21% CS or sth.

[umbral crown]

for me Sk0

[swift mango]

Details about it

[crystal flicker]

Seems like they have 5% CS

[swift mango]

Your Rumani 21% CS?

[crystal flicker]

• CS Cube yes

The real issue is what's Cindy's ammo at 2RL and her burst gen, since in my video even when they started bursting (~2.4RL) she's still using 6 ammos

[swift mango]

Eve face looks like Rapi to me.

[crystal flicker]

When Nikke deck and sheets said 8 ammos at 2RL

[umbral crown]

team 3 is 2 rl, team 5 any indom unit gonna win since enemy gonna feed , team 4 looks more invested but still rng, and team 2 stuns and noise buff

[umbral crown]

hawt

[swift mango]

What sheet is such a fraud? Cindy uses 1 bullet in the 1st RL. Then 3 per RL after.

It should be common knowledge

[swift mango]

Team 5 if SBS indom and stun then RH burst and get wiped.

(Unless RH can kill Centi before she burst.)

Then we have indom SBS without bursting needing to kill whole team in 4 seconds.

[swift mango]

It's Cindy feed, assuming she hit 1-2

[crystal flicker]

Wdym, feed is the bottom most

[swift mango]

Bottom is the %. That line is the number of bullet hits

[crystal flicker]

Right, isn't that just the same as bullet she uses at 2RL

[swift mango]

Like I said, the sheets assuming she hit 1-2. 1 bullet counted as 2 hits

In reality she could hit one or maybe zero as well

[crystal flicker]

Idk if it's relevant but my comp added with 2RL Cindy value is 99.9% burst gen

[swift mango]

Thanks for the other 3 matches though. 4 is hard to decide yeah.

[swift mango]

Maybe it would round up

[crystal flicker]

Yeh need another test

[swift mango]

Okay, tbh that 8-8 is weird. Should be 4-8. But maybe Cindy does 2 hit attack just like Emi or Noah.

I guess it assume Cindy do 2-hits attack per shot.

[crystal flicker]

Noah delay is 0.117s, and since Scarlet bursting at that delay, that just means she's bursting few ms before Noah (or at least the game register her first)

[crystal flicker]

Seems that the case

[swift mango]

Weird that you are not red.

[swift mango]

Because you had 21% CS on Noah and Rumani. Now try for 30% CS.

[crystal flicker]

25

[swift mango]

That's helmT, Emi and laoT privilege

[crystal flicker]

wdym

[swift mango]

I bet you need the next tier for slow RL.

[crystal flicker]

My math said 21% is enough against 2RL no CS

Though I overseen the fact that my comp lack 0.01 gen for perfect timing

Thanks for the feedbacks, I might need to wait for him to dethrone me again before can test another run, or wait tonight's CA record

[swift mango]

I think I have been able to keep my dispatch reroll to average of 100 these days.

[keen vapor]

Blood, I'm going to lose on my next fight

[swift mango]

Believe in yourselves even if no one believes in you.

[keen vapor]

I win today

But not tomorrow

[swift mango]

Believe

[keen vapor]

I won't be able to fight Eon before he retires

[swift mango]

@coarse lake you are quitting Nikke?

Farewell brother.

[keen vapor]

I failed him

My investment was not enough

Tomorrow's match is my Moran Bay against Moran Nero @swift mango

I'm getting countered basically every round

I'm losing 5-0

Tell Rosy the bad news

[swift mango]

@umbral crown

[shell hazel]

ok so yeah it's a bit dumb with nero at p1 and not invested, she dies no burst

I may win that just on that going down lol

[glad glade]

Could anyone explain how this team works please?

Pretty strange combination of units. Not sure how they would synergize

[wise horizon]

You don’t fail people! You didn’t fail me as I beat rank1 with your suggestion 🙂

Pretty sure I’m ok here but only got 1 battle left. Should be good here. I would use Scarlet/Blanc/RH/Centi/Jackal for T3 but Blanc and Jackal are already used in T1

[quick lake]

Doesnt seem like valid team

[glad glade]

Thanks. He had two dump teams so that made me do a double take

[restive heart]

guys need help

who will win here?

top is attacking
bottom is defending