pvp-arena

[quick lake]

Maybe that’s like 5 SR5 maybe

[umbral crown]

this is why you have so low SR15s

[keen vapor]

You have, no need to worry

[quick lake]

But that’s like 1 additional SR15 only

[keen vapor]

Bad MA you won't get promoted with those advices

[quick lake]

Since when did Rosy become MA

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

2 weeks?

[quick lake]

[umbral crown]

to have many SR15 you need to start working on it, you can not just wait for future units

[swift mango]

Anyone tried Scarlet with exactly 30 ammo? Does siren stun her at that Ammo?

[keen vapor]

I wait for Chime

[quick lake]

Wait till Moran treasure and u have no mats

[umbral crown]

like you have helm but not her treasure, you can no wait for the new treasure units

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

not me

[umbral crown]

shop will provide the mats , we good

[quick lake]

@keen vapor do we know roughly when next batch of treasure

[keen vapor]

Tan Ballena

[keen vapor]

Summer, July

[swift mango]

I know

[umbral crown]

since moran got besto skin she deservers a treasure

[keen vapor]

Viper sealed our treasures

[keen vapor]

Wait, am I thinking it right?

Uuuuhhhh yes, helm batch was early this year

[quick lake]

sounds abt right. 6M since last treasure

[umbral crown]

are they shorted by power?

[umbral crown]

re send the pics but without selecting anyone so its easier to suggest you teams , the way it is now its hard to tell. also try to not hide the other units

try to send your units in this format

[mint swallow]

Im focusing mainly on other stuff so my pvp keeps losing

[thin geyser]

Hi guys, I started playing at October last year and had to stop at early January. Recently I start playing again just before Little Mermaid banner off and fortunately able to get her.
Can you please help me with pvp teams?

[restive willow]

Cindy in P1 makes the opponent skip targeting to P2. Does the same happen with Cindy in P5? For example, if you put Cindy in P5 for your attacking team, would defense team shotguns start attacking your P4?

[quick lake]

Cause of her decoy, opponent targets to her right. So defense SG attacks P5 Cindy’s decoy

[umbral crown]

☆☆☆ SP Defense ☆☆☆
Noah/Ein/HelmT/Red Hood/Rumani
Scarlet/Grave/Liter/Naga/Jackal
Blanc/SBS/Rapipi/Biscuit/Rapunzel

Add Rapuzel and Rumani to youtr sync dev, and give her 4.4.4 in skills for now

[mint swallow]

what about rookie arena

[umbral crown]

☆☆☆ SP Defense ☆☆☆
Scarlet/Liter/Trina/Noir/Jackal
SBS/Blanc/Red Hood/Centi/HelmT
Noise or Moran/Rumani/Biscuit/Cinderella/X.Maiden

[thin geyser]

Umm, there are 2 centis there

[mint swallow]

I just realize i don't have trina

[umbral crown]

☆☆☆ Rookie Arena ☆☆☆
SBS/Blanc/Red Hood/HelmT/Siren

Scarlet/Blanc/Red Hood/HelmT/Jackal

Ein/Blanc/Red Hood/HelmT/Jackal

Noah/Noise/SBS/Biscuit/Jackal

Noah/Biscuit/HelmT/Red Hood/Jackal

Noah/Ein/HelmT/Red Hood/Jackal

you have many ways to use defense in rookie

[mint swallow]

is biscuit a good replacement to trina since i dont have trina

[umbral crown]

when you get her things gonna be better for you

[umbral crown]

let me fix that

[thin geyser]

Okie, thanks~

[umbral crown]

fixed

[mint swallow]

So i put biscuit over trina now?

[thin geyser]

Thank you. Btw Trina Centi Moran X-Maiden minimum skill req? Just all 4 enough?

[tame cedar]

hello; been getting kicked out of the top 5 again since the server reshuffled; do u guys have any suggestions for sp arena?

My current teams are:

Noah-Biscuit-Summer Anis-Rapunzel-Cinderella
Scarlet-Blanc-Siren-Jackal-Helm
Red Hood-Rumani-Grave-SBS-Alice

Here's most of my characters:

[umbral crown]

let me check and fix that

fixed

[umbral crown]

☆☆☆ SP Defense ☆☆☆
Noah/Rapunzel/Cinderella/HelmT/Rumani
Scarlet/Blanc/LaplaceT/Red Hood/Jackal
Moran/Biscuit/S.Anis/X.Maiden/Centi

[mint swallow]

O liter

[tame cedar]

Thank you! I’ll try these

Unfortunately my Moran and Centi are still in the process of being built; could I replace them with other units?

[mint swallow]

Btw Thank you so much

[atomic wolf]

team 1 is countered by siren

but i suppose 2rl would make it so that siren doesnt matter since b2 happens the moment siren stuns activate

[atomic wolf]

second team is a big mistake because this kills the whole purpose of using scarlet + due to how unstable blanc is, 3RL is basically a dead giveaway for the opponent to get easy win

[lime night]

could anyone recommend another solution? the one im using is a bit inconsistent

[atomic wolf]

this would make the team more stable, however this is scarlet blanc so expect it to fumble

[tame cedar]

Would you have other team suggestions for my current roster?

Preferable for atk/def?

may i also ask what website/software do u use to check the team’s burst gen?

[atomic wolf]

@tame cedar
Team 1: Rumani, Noah, Biscuit, Cindy, THelm,
Team 2: Scarlet, Blanc, Anis, Centi, Jackal (this could be better)
Team 3: SAnis, MPrivaty, TDrake, Noir, BSoda (give up unless this is invested since you are expected to deal nothing BUT raw damage to kill them)
https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[umbral crown]

all teams have counters so its fine for now

[atomic wolf]

if team 2 had trina, it would have been super better since this ease the burden of having to run anis but team 3 is a plain "give up"

blanc is too unstable, too dogshit to even be used

if you are fine with no stalling just go for scarlet, centi, red hood, anis, jackal

[umbral crown]

[atomic wolf]

you gave them a 2rl team 1 with noah p1 and 3rl scarlet i dont think it will help

[umbral crown]

you also need to remember what works for us not always for others, he needs to give a try and see how his bracket reacts

[atomic wolf]

or just plug and play

[umbral crown]

cuz my self im runnning a 4 RL team in sp and been C2 for months

[atomic wolf]

50 sync above everyone else i think it works

its more or less that

[umbral crown]

im 22-33 levels gap in cp but still in top, worst case for him is he loses but he not gonna die, he just need to change defense till something that works for him

[atomic wolf]

give him a baseline of the current pvp meta team

and expect him to bob and weave when something wrong happens

but whether or not he'll listen to me or you is a problem idc

[umbral crown]

need to balance the 3 teams , not just focusing in 2 teams and 3rd team the pad or something similar

[atomic wolf]

this isn't CA

[ancient veldt]

hello im struggling in sp arena, can someone help me make a better defense team?
my team in defense rn:
team 1: mana - buiscuit - scarlet bs - quincy (escape queen) - rapunzel
team 2: scarlet - trina - little mermaid - jackal - centi
team 3: noise - anis - cinderella - red hood - helm (fav item)

[umbral crown]

he can also listen to you and save your comps to try it as well, what i suggest are teams bur at the end he is the one who make the decesition what to use in defense

and also thats true, sp we know the rules and does not change, CA you never know if you are defending or attacking

[atomic wolf]

team 2 is good still expect it to be killed by noah 2rl
team 3 is stupid because it loses to everything due to lack of noah, just go for 2RL glass cannon route instead
team 1 no comment

you dont have noah so expect to trade, or gets attacked and lose

[ancient veldt]

ohh icic okie

[worthy knoll]

no def works in SP or rookie for attackers who have the know how aside from CP gapping, imagine getting steamrolled by just 3 units or a squad of idolls 🏃‍♂️ 💨

[atomic wolf]

not really, there is one team that could counter everything but unfortunately the opponent can also uses that

so you end up with 2v2, which ultimately turns into a shit clown show of trading until the others lose it and give up

if you lose it's either deficit, knowledge check, or literally skill issue

[umbral crown]

☆☆☆ SP Defense ☆☆☆
Scarlet/Ssakura/Trina/Red Hood/Jackal
SBS/Blanc/Siren/HelmT/Rapunzel
Noise/Biscuit/S,Anis/Mana/Centi

i still have not cooked with Quency but once i do will let you know, you could run these teams and see how it goes for you, if anything you can ask again to give you different teams

[worthy knoll]

Really? Teach me how to counter pls

[atomic wolf]

the third statement is true because i have had people attacking me for FOUR days without realizing that they could win with a different approach and it took them the fifth day to even win

[atomic wolf]

if i were you, i think i'd rather die

imagine having 3v3 and the opponents can put a shit team together still wins because of course they have 300 syncs above you

[unique wagon]

You want it

[worthy knoll]

Like I said I got steamrolled already by an Idoll Squad

[ancient veldt]

ooo alrites tyvmm

[umbral crown]

[wild hemlock]

[atomic wolf]

today i will try to attack this opponetn and see what happens

[umbral crown]

you know the deficit you are facing is too much

[atomic wolf]

yes i am making a joke

it was a close fight

[unique wagon]

Nothing happens.

[atomic wolf]

exactly

now i'm going back to playing fortnite

[umbral crown]

[limber silo]

I have come to sit before the knowledge tree.

So for PVP Nikkes like Jackal and Biscuit, if it says "CP Padding" does that mean I shouldn't OL their armor and just go for regular level 9 maxed out armor or should I actually put OL lines into them?

[atomic wolf]

no, you should go for OL their equipments

[limber silo]

ok that's what I thought

[atomic wolf]

regular level 9 is a permanent brick in progress and will serve you no purpose, and the combat power you get is from lines which is more valuable

[worthy knoll]

You simply OL them just to get high CP.. but you usually want to at least get Charge speed line on them.. else any line will do as long it increases their CP, elem damage is the best line for cp padding

[atomic wolf]

there is a reason why it's called combat power padding

[limber silo]

Oh so I OL the gear but I don't try and roll for good lines or roll in general am I getting that right?

[worthy knoll]

Yup for just general use

[limber silo]

so if a unit says "CP padding" just OL the gear and max it out completely in terms of level but don't invest any rocks into it

[worthy knoll]

Yup if its just for the sake of using them and not get CP gapped. For more pvp focused though you usually aim for Charge speed on RLs rest is any lines

[atomic wolf]

no, stop at the OL the gears

STOP at OL the gears unless you have a shit tons of exp gears to spend, which you dont

[limber silo]

ah ok so just OL and don't go for level 5 OL

[worthy knoll]

Yup just OL them, no need to max

[atomic wolf]

yeah

[limber silo]

got it, thank u PVP tribe for imparting your wisdom

[worthy knoll]

Merry is this you?

[atomic wolf]

we didn't help you shit

[limber silo]

ur right my fiber today did that

[spiral onyx]

CP padding is where you +5 OL, SR15 doll, and 10/10/10 your Anis (SR)

[shell hazel]

.. have you done that? 😄

[spiral onyx]

I was ready to if CA didn't disable CP padding lol

[shell hazel]

damn that is most of the way there lol. strong Anis

until we get more b2 batteries she's still good

[bleak shale]

hmm

[glad glade]

If Jackal dies, do all the units linked with her die as well?

[copper creek]

as a result of jackal dying? no

if jackal's dead, is it likely that every other linked unit is also dead? yea

[glad glade]

Even if Jackal is P1? Or is it because of that link? Should have specified that

[copper creek]

its because of link.

[glad glade]

Gotchu, thanks

[patent sail]

Guys is my teams good like this? Anything to change position or anything? T3 kinda leftovers (No ogscarlet , no sanis , no Emilia, no trina)

[glacial lion]

jackal linked 2 highest atk nikke, they usually are dps, they has lower hp than jackal - defender (if everyone has same investment), without extra buff atker will die before jackal

[wise horizon]

@keen vapor unfortunately the guy I hit, hit me back and so the defense didn’t hold 😦 but thanks anyway.
I will just hit him back with his slightly altered team

[wicked horizon]

I feel like the Rookie Arena defense meta is now just "Nuke team but with Siren, so they can't tank with Noah"

I'm not sure what to do against a P2 Siren in a team like that. =/

How do taunts work anyways if there's multiple?
I got Rumani and Noah both firing at someone - who will they focus?

I can't make any sense of what's happening here.
Why's Noah getting stunned?

[shell hazel]

noah taunts

if you run noise instead of rumani and your noise has no CS but your noah has more, then noise will burst then get stunned instead of Noah

[crystal flicker]

I'd use something like this, it'll be better if you have some spare clip SG so you can move around some batteries and make T3 faster
T1 is 2RL from feeds

[swift mango]

P1 Cindy target skip to p2, Noah taunt 1-2-3 with normal atk

[wicked horizon]

Why we skippin' targets?

And like, Rumani's also there. Doesn't her S1 also taunt?

Oh, "during full burst time"

[crystal flicker]

That just Cindy lol

[hollow lagoon]

rumani is like battery with the worst utilityzzzzzzz

[wicked horizon]

What, units don't target Cindy?

[crystal flicker]

They skip Cindy coz of decoy it seems

Even Siren wont stun Cindy, she just skip to the next target

[wicked horizon]

Well, I understand Siren not stunning Cindy, because the default is to fire at the decoy, not Cindy, but that doesn't explain why they'd not target her at all.

[crystal flicker]

Literally the same reason

[wicked horizon]

What?

The decoy is still Cinderella.

[crystal flicker]

Decoy is not a valid target for skill effects

[patent sail]

Those are my SG

[wicked horizon]

At 25 seconds in the video, the enemy Cinderella's burst literally hits my decoy, I'm not sure what you mean by this.

[crystal flicker]

"Skill effects"

[wicked horizon]

It's a burst skill, yes?

[crystal flicker]

This might work, T1 should go 2RL from double feeds
T2 just 2RL
T3 3RL regular

[crystal flicker]

What I mean is something like Taunt, DoT, etc

[patent sail]

thank u

[swift mango]

She can stay p1 with Biscuit and not getting indom.

She can buff Emi nuke (normal attack) even by a little.

She is a B1 clip RL that's not linked.

Is she worse than Jackal? Sure. But sometime she is preferred over her.

[hollow lagoon]

still lower battery than anis and centi

Emi is not a thing if she dosnt exist

the p1 biscuit indom thing depends on investment

[upper grove]

Is there a way for ppl to hit via script? It's kinda sus that I always get hit back when the account in question is offline whole day after I don't hit at all. After I hit I get hit back asap. Pattern is consistent regardless of my hits

[hollow lagoon]

i wouldent know how u feel

but there are times where, i woke up and some one attacked me and i hit right back and when back to sleep

[upper grove]

I tested also by hitting without winning, empty hits. Guy was offline for 1 hour. I spaced out 2 empty hits in 1 hour. Then I hit him for real, immediate hitback

I did this 3 times on different days during different time of the day

[hollow lagoon]

what's a empty hit

[upper grove]

I just hit and don't win, he stays offline

I win once immediately online

[calm gull]

Need help with SPA def

[upper grove]

Also, when I hit someone else and I'm higher he doesn't hit me immediately to take my spot. Only when I hit him personally he hits back

[hollow lagoon]

maybe same time zone as you?

i'm global and the hits are all over the place

[upper grove]

Unlikely, I tested it several times during different time of the day the past few days. There's no pattern for my hits

[hollow lagoon]

noah biscuit cinderella noise/redhood/siren helm/anis/rumani/centi
noah helm rosana/redhood biscuit centi/rumani/anis/mana
moran trina helm mana rapunzel/healer
nero moran helm mana rapunzel/healer
sbs/quancy-thief redhood/liter/siren blanc ruamni/helm/anis jackal

pick 2 and cp pad the 3rd if ur level is dominating

bro should prob wishlist a scarlet tho

[hollow lagoon]

idk maybe some script then

but how would a script read pvp results when account offline

[calm gull]

I tried

[hollow lagoon]

me too

i got 2 scarlet within 24 hours, it was pertty not bad

idk about nikke deck shit feels more like 2.5 rl for me

maybe i'm delusional

or maybe nikke deck dont take into account of mana's chargespeed boost

oh yes if i add charge speed on noah it goes 2.5 rl

yolo time

[upper grove]

I'm wondering as well

[hollow lagoon]

noah actually resolved before siren can stun but team died cuz rosana's not invested enough to yeet enemy helm

my level's way higher tho so it means i need to crack out pink gear on rosana

[hollow lagoon]

maybe its perma on

for example i logged on for a while, and is doing stuff ingame but game register me as logged on 12 minutes ago

[quick lake]

isnt her cs boost only during burst

[hollow lagoon]

you r right

[quick lake]

yeah, only her s2 passively buffs her own burst gen

which is indicated by the s10

[hollow lagoon]

maybe that guy who's burst i been catching with 3rl moran for a while is 2.5 instead of 2rl like i thought

but man people with sr15 morans

do they not care about pve kek

[upper grove]

could be the case

[quick lake]

we're preparing for treasure moran

[hollow lagoon]

moran is in top 10 aethetic for me ngl

i like her personality and clothing choices

[quick lake]

her recent new skin is a sign for her treasure

copium soon

[hollow lagoon]

we just got round 2 treasure release like earlier this year i doubt we getting round of treasure so soon

[quick lake]

By right should be in july 👀

[hollow lagoon]

true copium is me hoping for a negetive ammo count cube

[quick lake]

never 👀

[hollow lagoon]

i just wanna use dorothy without seeing cooldown numbers

[quick lake]

doro benched

[hollow lagoon]

i still use her copium

on harvester

negetive ammo cube would make her great again

[keen vapor]

Sakura needs a treasure more than Moran

[hollow lagoon]

sakura has summer version

[keen vapor]

That got benched instantly

[hollow lagoon]

which i dont got

[hollow lagoon]

eah? my friend still use her for kraken

[keen vapor]

I use Rapi she's strong

[quick lake]

yeah, would be nice if she did. But she has an alt alr

[hollow lagoon]

i used rapi for a while, but i'm back to dis after i managed to get a ele roll on sbs

[keen vapor]

wth

You should check clear info

[hollow lagoon]

i do

[keen vapor]

And still decided to use mana noir?

[hollow lagoon]

yah

rapi+helm was better for a while untill mana noir got ele rolls

[keen vapor]

Why you would roll them

[hollow lagoon]

rest is history

why not

i need noir for tetra tower

[keen vapor]

I don't

[hollow lagoon]

and mana is mana

[hollow lagoon]

well gib me Sanis

i literal dont have better tetra b3 beside a not-mlb-Xlud Alice and Noir

[keen vapor]

My Ludmilla isn't MLB either

[hollow lagoon]

and alice is pertty weak

given i play mobile and i have no clue hwo to shoot 8 times faster like rest of the universe

[keen vapor]

THAT'S WHO YOU SHOULD ROLL

[hollow lagoon]

even tho my charge speed is 99.9%

[keen vapor]

More ammo now

[hollow lagoon]

i have

one of the deepest regret has always been investing in alice

[keen vapor]

[hollow lagoon]

all thous meth rocks could been something better

is there like a script to shoot alice faster or something

[keen vapor]

wouldn't be sure about that

[keen vapor]

There's practice

[hollow lagoon]

yeahhhhhhhhhhh................ no

[keen vapor]

If you don't keep practicing you won't improve

That's how life works

[hollow lagoon]

no\

i just use better units

and life improves

thanx shift up for mihara

[hollow lagoon]

when i get rocks again ill roll off that charge speed and get more ele and atk+

then ill use alice again

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

I mean, if it's top line, sure

[keen vapor]

It wasn't, isn't it

[hollow lagoon]

are you

trying to talk to your self O.o

[swift mango]

At least she is useful in Kraken and solo raid.

[upper grove]

20sec burst unkillable moran for pve malding

[raven plover]

[mint swallow]

alice isnt even good at kraken anymore no? wille better

[quick lake]

yes wille great

[rich quail]

Echo giving life lessons

[hollow lagoon]

yeah nah aint feeling, we had dis convo and last month and someone got me to slot in alice for kraken, big mistake

[hollow lagoon]

not even close

cant hit stage 7 vs 2/3 way into stage 8

[mint swallow]

what sync are you im curious

[hollow lagoon]

378

ill prob hit stage 8 when i hit 381 break point

and i only have 1 ele line on sbs

[mint swallow]

O

Does the difficulty skyrocket

[hollow lagoon]

no? i dont think so? kraken is kind of just piss easy

[mint swallow]

cause im close to stage 6 at sync 262

[hollow lagoon]

i never did kraken before like level 300 i would not know

but

@shell hazel hit kraken 7 2-4 weeks ago

[mint swallow]

what was his sync

I reach there basically playing 1 dps

so i should go further when i upgrade my

asuka wille

[hollow lagoon]

oh he's not at 7 but he close #pvp-arena message

[mint swallow]

oo

[hollow lagoon]

my first 7 was with that exact team, i have since switched, since its close enough now

[mint swallow]

ah i see i tried rapi as burst 1

even though she is higher cp than siren and have better stats

siren does better

[swift mango]

I don't know what else are you using with them so can't compare.

[swift mango]

Using Noir instead of HelmT was your problem.

In Alice team you use helmT.

How many ele line ur Mana and Siren have btw

[hollow lagoon]

worse is worse

[swift mango]

You reacted stage 7 there

[hollow lagoon]

1 sbs 2 mana

[hollow lagoon]

i did but took more work then i liked

[swift mango]

I asked Siren

[hollow lagoon]

siren has 2

or 3?

2 lines 19 and 22 for siren

2 lines 16 and 17 on mana

1 line 29 on sbs

[swift mango]

Anyway it's not much difference there.
How is your Mana skill looking like? 777 or 101010?

[hollow lagoon]

8 10 8

[swift mango]

how is your Alice?

[hollow lagoon]

10 4 10

[swift mango]

yeah, you spent RSS on Mana for similar effect.

[swift mango]

How many ATK line though?

[hollow lagoon]

on siren?

[swift mango]

yes

[hollow lagoon]

1 line of 9%

before you ask

my siren has 0 ammo lines, i'm working on that

[swift mango]

how is your Siren and SBS LB looking like? Core+7 on both?

[hollow lagoon]

sbs+1 siren +2

[swift mango]

how about mana and Helm?

[hollow lagoon]

helm max mana +2 alice +3

[swift mango]

I could see the appeal here... People don't often have Mana and Siren at high core... My Noir also only 0lb

[hollow lagoon]

noir 8/9/5 core+4 level 0 gear 3atk line of 9% no ele

[swift mango]

Yeah, like my comment above they are side grade, and your wind team being a bit better because you have high core.

Now if you Add Asuka wind... instead of Noir.

[hollow lagoon]

i apperciate my black bunny's atk and ammo boost especilly since my siren has 0 ammo lines

[swift mango]

well, no ammo is fine with Crown + resilience.
Asuka wind will boost your dmg much more because of the synergy with Siren.

Burst gen won't be a problem with siren skill and MG.

[hollow lagoon]

yeah but i have to invest a unit that i cant use for pvp, cant use for tower, and can never get more dupes

[swift mango]

I will invest in her eventually because I invested in ReiT.

maybe 777 and done

[hollow lagoon]

maybe but my drake dont even have pink gear so priorities

also my kraken is already stage 7

[swift mango]

yeah

[hollow lagoon]

now the temptation is thief quancy sr 15 doll yes or no

[swift mango]

no

She has no use in SpA and Campaign

[hollow lagoon]

1.4billion dmg on harvester tho my sbs is 1.5on kraken

[swift mango]

If she being your waifu then go ahead

[hollow lagoon]

she's one of my first handful of nikkes

[shell hazel]

yeah not miles off, every level gets closer, but it's using Rapi instead of new Asuka (who I have just not built). If I wanted 7 sooner I'd builder Asuka W more 🙂

my SBS also has meh rolls, only 13.5% ele so my siren does more lol

[hollow lagoon]

#pvp-arena message

[swift mango]

My DKW is SR15 but that was because she was my main b1 in campaign.

My Elegg is still 555 skill, and done.

[shell hazel]

I'm farming MC for some gloves atm, I'll get kraken 7 soon though 🙂

I have MLB Asuka W specifically as I wanted to use for kraken and wind raids later on

[hollow lagoon]

my rouge is sr15, cus i didnt know what dolls are for so i shoved it into my only nikke with doll when i started dis game

[shell hazel]

can never dupe beyond MLB but it's fine, should be good enough

[hollow lagoon]

this sr15 rouge lead to me never doing much with liter

[swift mango]

SR15 mainly for CP... and maybe a little more dmg if you competitive in SR.

[hollow lagoon]

yeah but i didnt know

i only had purple sniper doll, and my best sniper at the time was rouge

[swift mango]

It has some more meaning in Arena because DR matters there.

But Quency don't have any use there

[hollow lagoon]

rouge dr comes in at 30 charged atks prob will never happen

he only value is the 6% atk boos when she's back line or if she burst u get a mixed chunk of dmg and hp

[swift mango]

I mean the DR from doll

[hollow lagoon]

oh

well that's a given, but unless you invest dr 5 and 15 is not that far off

as long as doll is purple there be dr

[swift mango]

10 12 14 17

any little bit count when it count.

especially in team with moran

[hollow lagoon]

my moran sr5 doll zzZZZzzZ

i should level her skills more but.... priorities

[hollow lagoon]

i switched back to mana because i like them labcoat glasses girls

speanking of PVP and Rouge tho, Rouge and Biscuit have same english VA

[rose flint]

Hi, is there anyone that could help me out with Rookie Arena and teambuilding?

I've have lots of characters but i do not know what i should do...

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Start sending your nikkes,at nikke tab on lobby, in-game settings > nearby > horizonal if on mobile and sort by power only.

follow this steps to give you the suggestion.

[swift mango]

I'm wondering if MA isn't allowed to add Enriched into their name. Can you confirm?

@keen vapor

@strong hull

@bleak shale

[strong hull]

What is that

[swift mango]

Anyone confirm this?

[strong hull]

[swift mango]

Just a meme to protest about Global not getting CN QoL.

[strong hull]

[swift mango]

They used the "enriched each other" line to refuse it in DEV note. Hence the meme.

[strong hull]

Oh lol

We can do that

[keen vapor]

You're the guy that didn't invest Emilia

[strong hull]

There you go

[bleak shale]

i havent heard anything about not being able to do that

[keen vapor]

Baka Kelvin couldn't keep it

[stiff oasis]

New team set up?

Would be much appreciated

[swift mango]

[strong hull]

Really

I dont like using Enriched or whatever it is since it ruined my name

[keen vapor]

Really
Say goodbye to your promotion

[swift mango]

Appreciate the responses guys.

[strong hull]

[bleak shale]

ide say if anything a mod would probably be more appropriate to answer it 😛

[strong hull]

I dont even know that meme exist lol

[swift mango]

No way a mod would be allowed to put the enriched meme to their name when they are busily muting those guys in the CN QoL threads.

[swift mango]

Now you do.

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-know-idk-dunno-no-idea-no-clue-gif-22858277

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Good job getting your promotion while being bricked.

[keen vapor]

I'm not really expecting to get salmon color

That was, second part joke of something with Thien

[strong hull]

[swift mango]

It was all your contribution to the 🧱 community

[strong hull]

Me waiting for promotion

[keen vapor]

[strong hull]

[swift mango]

Are you getting to CA this season

[keen vapor]

I think

I'm not defeating Dirk atm though

[stiff oasis]

Please lmk and @ me

[swift mango]

Yes or no?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[swift mango]

Good luck to you getting to Top 64 at least then

start cooking

[late tiger]

What is this enriched meme even about?

[keen vapor]

Protest for molds

Bc SU already stated improvements on load times/size

[late tiger]

Ahh, you mean 100% chance for ssr

[keen vapor]

After a year of collecting a pity, that's right

[late tiger]

I see
I saw some QoL on CN, but they also suffer from censorship in story and gameplay

[swift mango]

lol I put this on because they couldn't even fix loading time.

They reduced 3-6 second with June update. And planning for another 3 second for November.

That basically changed nothing

Global still 3 minutes opening screen while CN 30 seconds.

[late tiger]

The molds being 100% is overkill in my opinion, since we can get everything as f2p

But the loading times should be implemented

[keen vapor]

How to cook biscuit anis team and Nero team at the same time

[swift mango]

Mold is still same SSR rate. Just 5 fail = 1 guarantee pity.

in CN

[jagged mesa]

their nikke pool is shallow af anyways 💀

[swift mango]

CN have better reward for other game mode as well. Could come to that threat to learn more.

[jagged mesa]

its just a different game, not the first time china gets their own version of something

apples to oranges at that point

[swift mango]

that will quickly catch up to globalin a year

[keen vapor]

Imagine buying a Yan dupe with 300k arena tickets

[swift mango]

You know yan is about as good as Noise for Arena in CN version?

[coarse lake]

[swift mango]

They buffed her because she Chinese

[coarse lake]

gimme kit

[jagged mesa]

they have pale skin noir and naga. PASS

[keen vapor]

That's fake

Too obvious

[swift mango]

come to that threat and ask maybe...

but to sum up. Extra perks:

• She give 20% atk dmg whole team after entering full burst

• Her burst dispel 3 buff and 20% ATK reduction.

[coarse lake]

[jagged mesa]

oh is it? im gullible

[summer copper]

It’s china, you never know

[jagged mesa]

i tried to test it out but the verification was too hassle

[coarse lake]

3 buff dispel from team? that's pretty huge

just run a 1rl slower team vs indom, good odds of just removing it

[swift mango]

likely to p1+2 only if not taunted

[coarse lake]

should still be fine, that's where indom targets usually are anyway

[late tiger]

I think the 100% molds and rewards stem from their restricted online gaming access

Their social score suffers

[keen vapor]

I don't think her burst is big enough to affect more than 2 units

1 even

[swift mango]

yeah. It's one anti scarlet since the game start,..

[coarse lake]

if their restricted online gaming access means they get to waste less time (auto tower) and get better rng rewards, then that's a fat CCP W

[late tiger]

Nah I wouldnt trade our version with CN

[swift mango]

that's why I said probably p1+2 only

like anis burst

[coarse lake]

I would trade our version for CN that's as far in as we are (same units)

[keen vapor]

Isn't Yan bad burst gen btw?

[coarse lake]

iirc she's regular rl?

so same as noise

[swift mango]

should be like noise yeah

[keen vapor]

No, she's worse

[late tiger]

Nah CM has story censored, burst and personality and outfits

I only want the loading time improvements

[keen vapor]

Global is worse than regular RL

Along with Yuni

[coarse lake]

story in global is already kinda dog, outfits just change a single number in txt file

[keen vapor]

on PC

[late tiger]

Yup

[coarse lake]

eh if I play on phone I wouldn't care anyway, just dailies

we get a better.... looking nikke, but all the core systems and rewards are worse, so that's the point

[swift mango]

Okay, she is N102 tier on Global, half of noise. But who know if they also changed that for CN.

[keen vapor]

I can only play on phone

[coarse lake]

[keen vapor]

Don't G-

[swift mango]

Azur lane is good

[coarse lake]

I didn't like the core gameplay, but otherwise yeah it's great

[swift mango]

maybe the should make azur lane 2

[coarse lake]

same goon but different gameplay style, that would be great

let's see... make them a 2d shooter, just like that minigame they already made very little competition, better goon, can prob make it better gameplay than nikke

oh wait I suppose azur promelia is their azur lane 2 anyway

I.... don't have too high hopes there

I don't like how many characters are underage , and how casual it seems, seems even more casual than genshin

[keen vapor]

Blue Archive

[swift mango]

let's see how they cook.

azur lane is casual anyway

[coarse lake]

yeah if there's at least a few waifus and core systems are good, I'll play (assuming I can run it kek)

too many open world genshin copies coming up though

so very heavy competition, I ain't gonna play more than 1 of them at a time

[swift mango]

maybe come back to the root, play Toram online on mobile or WoW on pc.

[coarse lake]

gonna be giving etheria restart a try

if that doesn't work out, then idk, maybe star resonance later this year

[keen vapor]

My phone can't handle new games

[strong hull]

My phone has no game

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Story is confirmed to be the same thus far.

And if you played on PC, the censor version of units is easily removed...

[umbral crown]

But for attack that boi or defense

[late tiger]

the majority, including me, doesn´t play on pc, so we can´t replace files "yet"

at least not as easy as pc

[swift mango]

They said it's not replace the whole file but just a single letter.

Maybe could do that on phone if rooted

[late tiger]

well, as i said, I wouldn´t trade with CN version, aside from the loading times
even the 100% molds make the game pointless and removes all thrill once you progressed far enough
and changing this later on makes it all the more pay2win

not like our scuffle here will change anything to begin with

i just understand why CN has so many QoL, due to social score and restricted online gaming times

so they can have the molds, just the loading times for global would be nice

[swift mango]

It's not 100% mold, just 1 pity after 5 failure.

The have frame for Arena and Union raid.

They have Nikke in shop.

They have exclusive Costume

They have quick battle in Tower and Hard mode.

They have more reward for lower rank in SpA.

Their compensation mails being more generous

And more.

[umbral crown]

Now play CN

[keen vapor]

I've kept my Rei frame, thank you

[swift mango]

The lest they should do was to give us 30s loading screen like CN but they couldn't.

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

They will get that frame too eventually

[keen vapor]

Bc their game is way smaller

[keen vapor]

Good

They haven't got Nier collab tho

[swift mango]

Kinda wanted to make an account for Makima but I couldn't

[umbral crown]

Yet

[swift mango]

Yet

[keen vapor]

Imagine pushing without Crown for 1.5 years

[umbral crown]

Just do not stress so much for a version we are not playing

[late tiger]

1. pity is fine with me, as i said, they have less time available due to their government
2. frames will come later on, that´s fine with me
3. nikke in shop and better SpA rewards, again, explainable due to limited time
4. Costumes, probably because asia is the highest grossing area, so they get some perks, but nothing more than some time ahead of us
5. compensation, quick battle tower and HM, again, social score and internet access

=> aside from point 4, i see no problem, rest will come with time, CN seems like beta server at this point

[swift mango]

Like global did. But I bet they would get crown in half a year

[umbral crown]

We all did and we alive

[swift mango]

What is limited time

[keen vapor]

I won't go back to Centi pushing

[late tiger]

CN players are gated by "social credit score" and "restricted access to online gaming"

[umbral crown]

But bois, topic going too deep

[jagged mesa]

i have literally 0 jealousy towards CN nikke

[swift mango]

And what do you mean ahead? Those are exclusive perks that won't come to global in any of their plan for next 2 years.

[keen vapor]

CN are beta testers ?

[late tiger]

social credit score and restricted online gaming access

[swift mango]

Good for you. Now I'm back to wait 3 mins for Nikke to load.

[swift mango]

Only for under age

[jagged mesa]

good time to practice zen

[swift mango]

[late tiger]

that is 25% of gamers in asia and social credit score extends further than the curfew as it judges your online behaviour

[swift mango]

And that doesn't mean anything if they used their parent's account to play.

[swift mango]

And that doesn't mean anything if they used their parent's account to play.

[jagged mesa]

thats probably not happening

[swift mango]

For rich kids they could even use their servant's account to play

[keen vapor]

Letting your 12yo kid play nikke is really something

[late tiger]

no, you cannot, unless you want your parents to suffer

[jagged mesa]

said device would have to be logged into that person's QQ or wechat

so unless that parent is literally just giving their child their personal phone for 5h a day

[late tiger]

Additionally, Tencent, a major gaming company in China, has implemented a social credit score system for gamers who play their published games.

[swift mango]

Only for the poor maybe .. But only rich kids matters

[late tiger]

it writes TENCENT fyi

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

[late tiger]

as i said, CN players can have these perks, they have it hard enough

[keen vapor]

@fathom rock I think your malding will affect your score

[jagged mesa]

lol the servant isnt going to give their personal device logged into their personal qq or wechat over for hours just for a kid to play nikke, especially if they likely use it FOR work if they're servants

[swift mango]

Only Rich kids could whale. Normal kids doesn't matter at all

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

They do if money is involved

It's just common sense

It's a lot safer than selling your identity for money which many people already did

[tropic summit]

[jagged mesa]

ok

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/fma-edward-fmab-elric-fullmetal-gif-23362463

[keen vapor]

Tenks

[umbral crown]

Now go and check sp

[swift mango]

If you read Vmmo manhua recently, you would see lots of cases where a character is asked if they are a kid that used their parent accounts to play game because of their law.

So it's common sense in CN as well and I'm not making things up.

[keen vapor]

But I need to cook CA

[umbral crown]

If you are not C4 you not gonna go

[keen vapor]

I'm C3

[umbral crown]

3k gems also

[keen vapor]

Gonna recover from those seasons where I got 2.4 instead of 2.7

[umbral crown]

New defense is strong i guess

[keen vapor]

I hope so

I haven't checked against Abathur

[umbral crown]

Go check

[keen vapor]

And Malogro needs to pad more to fight C1 (since my results are inconsistent

[umbral crown]

He just needs to test daily and see what works for him

Thats how i managed to beat C1 a few times

[keen vapor]

I don't want that this season

[umbral crown]

Season gonna end soon

[keen vapor]

And I started the season on falling to C5 constantly

[umbral crown]

When did you start holding C3?

[jagged mesa]

i just realized something

ive always said c4 is the most camoflauged spot, and it has been the most stable for me for a long time

and c4 is also an incredibly stable compound IRL

🤯

[swift mango]

My bracket C4 is hell because c1-3 unmoved.

[keen vapor]

When I changed def

And maxed summer Anis

[swift mango]

Imagine doesn't have ASS maxed as MA

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Oi, don't say it like that

[fathom rock]

[keen vapor]

Oh right, it takes you 7 minutes

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

For the 10th time

[hollow lagoon]

i dont have her....

[umbral crown]

waos

[unique mountain]

[gaunt viper]

@tropic summit I did it, I beat the whale

it took several days of experimenting but I did it

[swift mango]

Or just a laptop with their account on it.

I do know parents who give their child their phone and Laptop when they are at home. They are even my relatives.

[fallow nebula]

Can mermaid stun noah before she ults

[oblique ridge]

Most of the time, yes. It’s something like 2.7 seconds for Siren stun. Which beats Noah’s burst timing in a 2RL team. So a p1 Noah (or a non-p1 Noah that taunted a p1 or p2 Siren) falls prey to Siren stun. There is a way for Noah to outrace that though - if her team bursts at least a bit faster than actual 2RL.

[swift mango]

Depending on if Noah is in 2rl team with everyone 11%+ CS or not.

[warm zinc]

I need some arena compssss

both rookie and special

whats a good rookie team and what 3 teams can I build from these

[glad glade]

How do I beat this comp in SPA?

Opposing team Scarlet team is a 2.5 RL

[tropic summit]

there are multiple ways to deal with this, since you did not post your box, i'll just assume you got most of everything

T1:
enemy in T1 wants to sacc mihara, running 2 snipers will drastically reduce your damage output in p1 to move it to p5, since cindy and rosanna will target skip, you'll be shooting actually trina in p3, rest will shoot p1 as for normal. Point is to get the indom going asap, ensure RH has more HP than HelmT with vigor

T2: a bit of a weird take on usual indom scarlet teams, opponent is bursting with xmaiden and likely has noise linked, you'll still deal with indom scarlet down the line, hence the stall team above

T3: could be deal with but would need to reconsider approach, just go with the above for now, record it just in case opponent is running funny CS%

do note that helmT RH and SBS can be interchangable depending on ur invest, depending on CP needs you can re-arrange like this

centi assumes generic clip RL, use trina/anis/centi as needed and balance as CP needed

[glad glade]

Thank you! One thing is that the problem with T2 is that his scarlet comp is 2.5 RL without the feed because he invested 17% CS in Jackal and I think one other RL. Would that still change the counterattack?

[tropic summit]

Rookie:

scarlet helmt blanc centi jackal

SP arena
scarlet blanc rh xmaiden jackal
noah centi cind helmt rapu
auto

Cubes
quantum on jackal
vigor on blanc, rapu
temperance on noah
rest can run any high lvl cube

wishlist/build
rumani, trina, rosanna, biscuit, noise

can get teams reviewed once the above are ready

[tropic summit]

enemy is bursting with xmaiden on p1, your p1 is invulnerable because of biscuit

scarlet is in p5 so she won't burst

[glad glade]

Oh right, i forgot Maiden is B3 XD

Thank you!

[tropic summit]

just doublecheck CP ensure you're not on deficit and run accordingly as above

[glad glade]

My rapu is sorely uninvested, so I might be in a deficit. Should I replace her with something else or is there no hope?

[tropic summit]

assemble the teams then post a screenshot here

both your team vs enemy team so we can see CP

[warm zinc]

okay ty

[warm zinc]

does auto mean auto team 😭

[glad glade]

Deficit is much less intense than I thought

[tropic summit]

ye you lack enough batteries to make a worthwhile team, just stack CP in that last one until you've the nikke suggested

[warm zinc]

I actually have almost all the nikkes but I needa build those few

thanks for the advice

[tropic summit]

CP looks fine

7% deficit, you're well within the 15,4% requirement

could balance it further with the second option, try that instead and post screenshot

this one
#pvp-arena message

[warm zinc]

sorry but xmaiden is this one right

[tropic summit]

yep

[tropic summit]

you welcome

[warm zinc]

helmt=helmtrasure?

[glad glade]

Holy moly, it worked! Thank you!

[tropic summit]

oh first team you CP gapped them for triple win

[glad glade]

My wife, Cindy, absolutely carried me

[tropic summit]

the choice of xmaiden instead of scarlet is peculiar there, the lad either experimenting or he had a plan

[tropic summit]

yep correct

[glad glade]

He probably knew I’d employ a 2RL team. I was the idiot who forgot that Maiden was B3

[tropic summit]

happens

can always learn from mistakes

[warm zinc]

tyty

[glad glade]

Yeeeee! Thank you so much for your help!

[tropic summit]

you welcome

[ionic ledge]

How to beat noise noah sanis biscuit rapunzel? Maybe like 200-300k deficit lmao. scar team is being used elsewhere.

[tropic summit]

it depends on what you can run, triple buff scarlet if properly invested and not on heavy deficit can still 1hitko

scarlet trina rh drakeT jackal for example is generally always lethal unless you're missing on investiment

if you already using scarlet elsewhere, you need rosanna or an outstall team

mirror team but on 3.5RL or 4RL will also work out

[shell hazel]

my scarlet still doesn't link on this kind of setup 😄

[tropic summit]

PvE player

[shell hazel]

need to roll atk % but bricked on rocks

[tropic summit]

tbf drakeT is even overkill there

[shell hazel]

I have to run xmaiden with jackal/scarlet or the additional dps steals it

[tropic summit]

rh + trina should be well enough lethal on its own

[shell hazel]

can run 2RL even without jackal but is expensive on batteries

like this works but SR anis tanks cp unless invested

this would be quite lethal but need CS on trina and it's not 2RL

[tropic summit]

record it if you run it, gonna be popcorn worthy

s.anis must be burst lvl 9 minimun, no ammo OL, resil cube
rapu biscuit run vigor
noah run temperance
any cube crown (resil/bastion)
must not be in CP deficit (more than 15.4% deficit)

[shell hazel]

am pretty close to having lapt bond ready, but no doll to slap on her so stuck until solo raid 😄

[ionic ledge]

This is what I'm up against

Don't have regular rosanna built 😦

[hazy shore]

on rookie arena is crazy work

[tropic summit]

waste of gem, let em

[keen vapor]

Imagine gemming rookie...

That's some big ego

[hazy shore]

this was after he used all his 5 free ones, then I got him back my free ones

[shell hazel]

max cores, max dolls on a lot of em, good luck 😄

[tropic summit]

that's a really easy opponent tho

full SG team is heavily punishable

[tropic summit]

T1 run biscuit locked general 3RL nuke (can be in deficit between 15 to 20%)
T2 you can run a flex unit as needed, as long as it doesn't steal scarlet 2nd or 1st highest atk% spot (OL included)
T3 you can skip it

[shell hazel]

SG on def targets p5 and because p5 is a defender there like Crown biscuit will make her immune and gg

[tropic summit]

to ensure you wipe one 1hitko:

scarlet 10/x/10, 30-40%atk prefered
trina 4/7/7
maxed RH

flex unit ensure it does not steal scarlet link by being higher atk%(OL included) than scarlet

can be anyone you're high on CP, as enemy will push you to 2RL via s.anis feeding on p5

[ionic ledge]

1st team was very close, but maybe the deficit was a little too high for me lol, 2nd team worked fine

[tropic summit]

you can push CP in first team perhaps

[ionic ledge]

My rumani only kinda built lol

[tropic summit]

22% deficit

cindy nuke probably no longer lethal at that deficit

[ionic ledge]

Can probably push it a bit and try again. Thanks

[tropic summit]

no problemo

[signal hull]

Oi, m8ts.
Need suggestion who to focus OL'ing next: Rapunzel, Maid Anchor, Bay, Bunny Soda (why the hell are people using her in CA recently, even as first B3??), Noire, or... (and I really don't want to do this one) Nero?

[tropic summit]

bsoda? iron code SG hits like a truck on elec code

SG team wants a decent spread of ele attacks

bsoda iron
drakeT fire
naga elec
noir wind

[signal hull]

Hmm... Mkay.

[tropic summit]

i'd say either rapunzel or bay anyway

bsoda and noir if you going for SG team

[signal hull]

I'm focusing on strengtheting my CA teams right now. Only this.

[tropic summit]

maid anchor is mostly for pve purposes, although she can have a few usage in CA/SParena

[tropic summit]

then all 4, as they're core units

[signal hull]

But which one first >.<

[tropic summit]

-bay: allows another team beside noah team to resist nukes
-rapunzel: allows revive comps
-noir and bsoda: core units of SG teams

in order of exclusion, i'd say bsoda because you can also use her in pve?

rest have been downgraded to mostly pvp

noir used to be ran with blanc then rouge happened

rapu has few bosses she's nice to have in pve

[oblique ridge]

My Bay is bad Worth bringing her up to par for CA?

[signal hull]

So people in CA using Soda only because they're HOPING that she'll go against electro units and kill them fast? Is that it?

[tropic summit]

if you want another team resistant to nukes or a DR team, yes

[tropic summit]

no, it's SG stacking on spread ele advantage

doubles down as clip SG so also has battery usage

she can also be used as a very specific ele weak mid tier nuke

[signal hull]

Ok. I'll go with... Wait for SB collab and decide then! What if Eve will be a mega pvp unit, like this damn Emilia, whom I don't have?

[tropic summit]

reasonable

CA is just a flex mode, you can wait and see

[hazy shore]

what is a definitive counter for 2rl helm?

[oblique ridge]

Eve meta pvp team passive - Targeted Orbital Strike.

• All Abnormal units in all opposing teams are KO'd when combat starts.
  

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/himeko-star-rail-honkai-ultimate-gif-27551222

[keen vapor]

Any Bay is good enough as long as she's p3

[oblique ridge]

p1 Defender + Biscuit is good if you're the attacking team and the p1 Defender triggered Biscuit invincible before Helm burst. Make sure Helm's burst isn't going to be taunted to someone else.

If the rest of Helm's team is single target attacks or RL attacks, they'll focus fire the p1 Defender (RLs will splash your p2, oh well). That should let you win with your burst or better comp unless they too use a p1 Defender + Biscuit.

[shell hazel]

Bay doesn't seem to need high invest for CA, but she does need to burst pretty early to be useful

[oblique ridge]

What's wrong with p2 Bay?

[shell hazel]

her effectiveness relies on her cover being intact

[keen vapor]

Splash
That needs investment (if it can even work)

[shell hazel]

so p3 bay is less likely to lose cover

[hazy shore]

they use p1 defender + biscuit

[keen vapor]

Just tell the full team to say counter

[hazy shore]

noah biscuit noise helmt cinderella

[keen vapor]

Weird combo

[keen vapor]

Also that shouldn't be 2 RL

[hazy shore]

I'm not cp gapped but I still have no clue how to counter

[signal hull]

2RL Scarlet?

[hazy shore]

haha scarletless..

[keen vapor]

I wouldn't scar nuke a noise team...

[shell hazel]

you can stun the noah and use your own noah to not die, just need a nuker capable of killing em

with siren

[hazy shore]

I have siren, which nuker?

[shell hazel]

why on earth is cindy even in this team lol

p5 cindy but helmt is bursting this

[hazy shore]

cp I think

[signal hull]

yeah she's doing nothing, also low burst gen... CP padding?

[oblique ridge]

It's a stall team that lets their Cindy beat up the opponent. Cindy gets HP to ATK conversion when team enters burst stage 3, so it's basically a lifeleech powered bully team

That's the opposing team's reasoning, maybe CP reasons too though

[shell hazel]

damnit we need siren lol

try sending that

[signal hull]

??
But need lvl7 quantum cube.

[oblique ridge]

I think I actually like the opponent's weird team and will file away that idea for the future. It's slow though and loses to 2RL AoE wipe that's buffed enough

Or to Siren stun

[shell hazel]

rapi should make short work if siren stuns noah

[hazy shore]

I have level 8 quantum and both uninvested rrh which do I try?

[shell hazel]

record it if you're in cp range

run this if cp is better #pvp-arena message

if noah on opponent side is stunned then you may be fine anyway, just record if you can

[ionic ledge]

i tried noise instead of rumani cause she was much higher cp, and it worked out.

[shell hazel]

this should also work for noise buffed cindy nuke

[hazy shore]

thank you

[shell hazel]

haha pretty close still, did you try any of the others? siren stun is an extra factor here

[hazy shore]

yeah I'll try the 2rl next

[shell hazel]

how close is the cp on that match?

[hazy shore]

were both the same

very very equal

1-2k cp gap

[shell hazel]

nice, your helm got destroyed there before noah could kick in 😛

[tropic summit]

nice good job

she also doubled down as a better buffer for cindy

[crystal flicker]

Just need instant Nuke for that

[shell hazel]

no scarlet was the issue

[onyx scaffold]

U will get stunned by siren

[keen vapor]

Not me

I see that farming is going good

@onyx scaffold have you rolled something in these days?

[onyx scaffold]

Banner or OL?

[keen vapor]

Ol

[onyx scaffold]

I finish overloading Mari

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Got 4 attack lines?

[onyx scaffold]

3 CS 0 ammo

I need ammo but I rmb 22 rocks no ammo on tove

[onyx scaffold]

so I stopped

[lunar oxide]

doable?

[keen vapor]

Holy

[onyx scaffold]

questionable teams

[keen vapor]

VERY

[raven plover]

sr15 mori

[lunar oxide]

im stuck in a server where over half have broken through the limit, when i haven't

[onyx scaffold]

Mori is no longer a hobo with sr15

[keen vapor]

It'll be core max next year

[lunar oxide]

what about this one?

[umbral crown]

Waos

Bro must be cooking something we do not know

[spare nimbus]

W?

[raven plover]

300k cp gap

[spare nimbus]

Ay first team won tho

[eternal finch]

Wanted to see if I can get some recommendations for DEF SP pleaes.

Highest cube is Quantum at 14

everything else 11

[onyx scaffold]

It seems like your bracket has no idea how pvp works. Check pins and learn about it then u can beat them

[lunar oxide]

thx

[onyx scaffold]

When attacking, focus on making 2 teams.
Machine gun burst gen is slow. Your rapi is just slowing down your team which is already slow.
Team 3 looks better but still bad.
Why do u burst with drake instead of Cinderella / SBS. What is SBS doing there. Liter pos 1 is too risky...
Ok im dead now 💤

[lunar oxide]

i auto built the team

[onyx scaffold]

I need more people who press auto in pvp

[spare nimbus]

Any advice?

[crystal flicker]

What deficit is that?

[spare nimbus]

.78, .71, and .74

[crystal flicker]

T2 RH Scarlet Trina Centi Jackal
Can replace Centi with Emi if she's not messing Jackal link for more CP, Check deficit

Too bad you need Biscuit to counter T3

[swift mango]

You aren't winning this sir. Only Biscuit can reliably win against 20+% deficit and you already won it.

[spare nimbus]

What about swapping t1 and t3?

Like this? Using drake to feed my jackal

[crystal flicker]

25% is doable tbh

[crystal flicker]

Only if your Scarlet survive Rosa

[spare nimbus]

Im hoping rapunzel stuns

[swift mango]

Not with scarlet team

[swift mango]

They won't even survive normal attack

[swift mango]

You will lose both.

[spare nimbus]

Damn

[wild patio]

now my arch nemesis in my pool is Pix @loud sonnet

[swift mango]

Cindy won't target skip SR and SG whichever their position is.

Attacking SG will hit P1 Cindy, just like defensing SG hitting P5 Cindy. Reverse for SR.

[swift mango]

Gem him to death.

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/bleeding-you-cant-trick-me-tom-holland-spider-man-far-from-home-gif-17437026

[crystal flicker]

He needs tempering, I beat 25% all day everyday with Scarlet lol

[swift mango]

Maybe against someone similar level, low core and without any SG.

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Scarlet won't even survive against LapT alone at 25% deficit

[umbral crown]

@keen vapor for you

[crystal flicker]

I tried to beat this mf 30% deficit and lose today lmao

[swift mango]

Let alone Scarlet counter.

[swift mango]

At 30% deficit, my max out MLB Crown would get one shot by Alice normal attack.

[umbral crown]

The saiyan frame

[keen vapor]

2.4

[crystal flicker]

He's just using brain dead cp pad and afk at C2

[umbral crown]

Need 3 levels for 381 boost for 2.2

[keen vapor]

I'm padding

[umbral crown]

Owo

[keen vapor]

What

Check my Bay

[raven plover]

sr15?

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

Where

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Maybe it's time you start to buy the monthly core dust pack.

[crystal flicker]

4 Days before CA and I still don't have that 25% cs Noah

[swift mango]

Why do you even need that Noah? Get 25% CS on HelmT or Emi instead

[crystal flicker]

To block 2RLScarlet with 2.5RL Noah

[swift mango]

You won't. Only Emi and HelmT fast enough for that.

[crystal flicker]

My HelmT has this piece with Ele L3 and Atk L2, I ain't gonna spend hundred of rocks for L1 CS

[swift mango]

It's the cheapest already.

If you don't want to then reroll 1 rock and throw ATK, ELE away.

[crystal flicker]

I'm still saving for Eve, who knows if she's PvP Nikke

[swift mango]

He is asking you to follow his Blabla to check his gear.

[swift mango]

Put your Blablalink on your profile if you keep asking people to check your gear.

[keen vapor]

But ASDF might stalk me

[umbral crown]

i think so, i have never bought any bundles besides skins

[umbral crown]

i hardly ever check mine

[swift mango]

Well, that or start investing in sr15 101010 your Rapipi and crown.

[keen vapor]

Blue ele, that's more economic

[swift mango]

And Siren too

[swift mango]

Are you doing the daily discord signing in and level infinity log in for points?

Those are also extra resources for level up.

[raven plover]

[keen vapor]

Idk

Happens easier than on DPS

[keen vapor]

Then again is not like I have none DPS with colored effects

Something reasonable for an +1.5 old account

[umbral crown]

well,

[umbral crown]

not really, i do not really go there but sometimes when i remember maybe 1 or 2 times a month

i must have like 11-12k coins there

[keen vapor]

Surely @siren2 has successful defs

@wise horizon how its going

[swift mango]

Buy all the core dust every month.

[fallow nebula]

Will mermaid stun my noah?

[crystal flicker]

Absolutely

[swift mango]

Yes

[fallow nebula]

How to fix

[swift mango]

Replace RH with Rumani. Or Cindy with Emi. And get every RL of your team, including Biscuit 11% CS or above

[stiff oasis]

Either or

Mostly attack please

[umbral crown]

attack teams always depends of the enemy you face, will check your box again to give you a suggestion but you have to keep in mind to not run your defense teams in attack

is your current defense working?

[stiff oasis]

Anything please will help.

My defense was working for 3 seasons but now I’m getting knocked down

Need to change it up or update it

[umbral crown]

☆☆☆ SP Defense ☆☆☆
Rapunzel/Biscuit/Centi/S.Anis/Emilia
Noise/Siren/Cinderella/HelmT/Noah
Scarlet/Blanc/Red Hood/LaplaceT/Jackal

[swift mango]

Use Blanc in biscuit team.

[stiff oasis]

Omg thank you so much

Do you just want me to show my opponents set up and go from there?

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

Against Team 1:
Noah/Noise/Biscuit/HelmT/Emilia

Against Team 3: Scarlet/Blanc/Red Hood/LaplaceT/Jackal

[stiff oasis]

Team 2 auto?

[keen vapor]

I rather don't use Biscuit at all

[umbral crown]

check the cp of scar team

[swift mango]

But what if your Blanc stunned.

[umbral crown]

that or something funny yu wanna run against it

[keen vapor]

Summer Anis won't survive with lifesteal on P2

[swift mango]

Then p3

[keen vapor]

Then she won't get Indom

[umbral crown]

give her max doll then

[swift mango]

Use Rumani.

[keen vapor]

??

[swift mango]

But then Rumani got stun instead.

[keen vapor]

Bad cooking

[swift mango]

Use Mana or Rapu to revive then

[keen vapor]

SLOW

[swift mango]

Everything below 2rl is slow

[keen vapor]

Then use on your CA teams

[swift mango]

I don't use ASS

[keen vapor]

You know your cooking is bad

[swift mango]

I don't know.

[stiff oasis]

Team 1 lost against the opponent

But Team 2
Siren/Naga/Cindy/bscarlet/redrapi beat it tho

Team 3 of course won

[umbral crown]

oh,did you record the fights?

but glad it worked somewhow

[vernal burrow]

Hi, can anyone help me make some sp arena teams. My current teams are Scarlett, Trina , Moran , red hood, biscuit
Liter, crown, maid priv, anis, jackal
Auto

[pearl fractal]

guys whats the best pvp arena team for me?

[crystal flicker]

Are those all your SSRs?

[vernal burrow]

These are the rest

[crystal flicker]

T3 just auto (Until you get more PvP battery)

Give Anis some investment (gear, doll, 4/4/4 skills) for more cp
Finish your Helm treasure and go 10/4/10 > 10/10/10
RH should be your main investment, since you'll use her everywhere

[pearl fractal]

720093 vs 618018 how can i win? 85.82% deficit

[regal garden]

what was that? how?!

how 2nd round was lost

[crystal flicker]

T1 vs this
T2 skip
T3 Scarlet 2RL

Should be win as long as ScarBS get the Indom

[regal garden]

what RL means

[crystal flicker]

Blanc bursting just before die making Liter unbeatable for 10s

[restive ember]

Hey guys, any tips on a team that can beat this?

[regal garden]

omg this is🫃 move

[crystal flicker]

Burst speed

[regal garden]

nevermind, met it a lot...

[regal garden]

thank you

[crystal flicker]

Siren + fast nuke

[atomic wolf]

what does sanis do again

[crystal flicker]

If not taunted her passive will atk 2 highest atk

[jagged mesa]

between anis, rumani and centi, which rl would you guys prioritize investing in

[crystal flicker]

They're just the same tho

[jagged mesa]

yeah pretty much but there are some small differences

[pearl fractal]

you mean my T1 vs their T1, your team comp T3 vs their T3 ? just to make sure

[crystal flicker]

The comp that I sent vs their T1
Your 2RL Scarlet (T2) vs their T3

[pearl fractal]

whats my best shot with T2? or i just equip one character or auto

[crystal flicker]

Centi > Anis > Rumani
Centi has slightly lower gen than Anis, but more stat coz she's SSR so easier to work with

[jagged mesa]

thats what i was thinking too

but now im reviewing possible teams cuz rumani is b1

but maybe giving anis overloads and stuff is a proportionally bigger gain relative to base stats because her base stats are lower