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didnt you all start around the same time? same bracket after all
full of shit, he started two weeks after me
his sync is 404, no sign of stopping and me 301
welp mines at 130%+ max ammo 
Low/zero ammo scar is able to avoid Siren’s stun. But u lose like 20% atk buff cause of her s1 as well
this is clearly balancing
Hmmmm oh, weirdly is works then 
@umbral belfry you know what this means? jackal gave me the the defense against two of the wild cards so it's time to reclaim 3 and try to hold it
put one f2p player in a bracket full of whale and make him suffer
Pff. Not worth it.
REALLY JUST WANT TO MAKE ME SHOOT MYSEFL
If u attack this guy again, would appreciate if u could record a vid and ping me would be great 
garbage dog shit game
jackal clutch. did you level her up enough already?
just 3/4 overloads, R0 doll, 1/1/1. i cant get boots for the LIFE of me (or abnormal chest for that matter)
Im in SPA war now. Top 7 are shuffling about 
@umbral belfrybtw fun fact, if you are not aware already
it's time 
champion arena ranking order is entirely based on level
so we are effectively at the bottom of the food chain
what do you mean?
wdym ranking order?
the babies 
I guess that makes sense overall but oof
at least we're on the list?
ahhhh
notice the ranking based on sync? yeah
guess we're still the lowest bracket then?
it's level based so we have the lowest and were put at the bottom
I already gave up my CA spot, the new guys gem and can brute force my defense with CP 
that's kinda surprising, would've togught at least one more would've popped up by now
its not lowest bracket, just that we were put at the bottom due to commander level
I alr dropped out of top 100 
no there are definitely newer brackets for CA
ahhh
check here
a couple of them have posted in here, and they're commander level like 100
Sad
the guy above you is literally 150 levels of difference
No it’s bracket + clear time
ah yes all I need to do is gain 150ish levels 
we are LITERALLY at the bottom of the food chain
We are the lowest bracket and you are the latest clear
the babies 
That’s why you are at the bottom
the clear time is based on the number ranking, but the order of what is shown is level based

are you sure? there have been people here asking about CA in a bracket full of commander level 100-200s
unless im missing the point
ok let me put this in a much clearer perspective
the numbers shown aka actual ranking number (19) is calculated based on clear time
while the order of who gets to that ranking is sorted from highest to lowest commander level
Well you are tied for the placement so do you really care what order it shows in 
no just some random shit i autistically observed
@quick lake 
I applaud the effort to change the BGM
I knew scar would get stunned 
we definitely aren't
Day #1 of complaining for SU to fix PvP, esp CA and Cheering
oh i thought thats what you were saying
maybe im dumb and cant read
@quick lake any rookie def teams recommendation? 
that's what i'm saying
i'm agreeing with you
Is it? Cindy P1 is FAQ material? Is it?
how did helm die
@wet crystal im adding you in-game pls be my friend
Rosanna B1 vs water kinda strong
wait wtf you have noah
Noah 
Choose random from linked list on pinned FAQ
or the one team comp that uses your units with highest combat power, yes
A lot in my list are from my bracket, but not my top 4s from rookie or sp lol
folian! i just saw your previous message about me getting noah, but i dont have noah and YOU have noah
what a lie, i didnt even know you had noah
not on 4sh anyways
Oh right, I used to have @xp added
@quby doesn't likes PVP enough to get in Challenger ig
Same bro, my Rapipi, Crown, Siren with 4 lines of CS or CD. 
Oh that's was ASH? Yea, got a break after my badluck weekend 😂
its ok though, i got jackal on 4sh yesterday, which actually gave me just enough to defend against 2 of the wild cards
so im going to try to hold 3rd now
Hell yeah
Not like Crown cares or anything...
I think ZZZ is done. Its gonna be you, dkaze, and Chinese character
I cared with 100 rocks I thrown on her and couldn't change it before I gave up

this defense against 2 (even if only sometimes) means im back in the race for 3
now all thats left is pray for noah every day (and dolls)
You guys 260-ish sync around?
chinese character 271, the other two 265, im 263
Borealis quitted almost a month and still c4 lol 😂
Nvm different guy
you need to push campaign harder 
I want more ways to level up gears
@swift mango see this image
i pushed as hard as i can...i just need more cp on anchor and ill get past snek
100 1-rock rolls? 
im way past the other guys in campaign anyways
i dont know how they're higher level than me
they probably convert battle data
i do too

Cha-ching
i think im actually lowest cp clear in the past month for a lot of stages, lowest cp clear by 10k for hard campaign
You are on NA not SEA right? Should be a different guy. The Borealis on SEA is a whale... Who quit 1 month ago to go to med school... And still join the next 2 CA top 64 with the exact same teams. 
yeah im NA
He's gonna come back a mega whale
i could probably go further but i havent tried yet because i know ill just get stuck at nihilister
i kid you guys not i spent 3h straight on 19 boss
I would push just to increase the claim rewards from the outpost
i had to take a break i was malding for 3h in chapter 19
maybe 4h
i brought that boss down to x12 hp like 5 times before i cleared it
you get +1 CD/h at 20-22 I think if you can clear the cancer defense stage
20-24 if you can't
i havent passed snek yet
im 360k cp with anchor
Anyone here still doing Union raid hard mode at this hour?
failed all my maintenance on anchor
I feel you, I was stuck at nihil at 481k, kept failing so I spent the next 3 days building a liter
Mine didn't open yet, we reached at day 2
folian i got a shock when i saw yours and hime's main squad cp
i knew you guys were high but not 500k+ high
What hard mode? I literally the one who take Alteisen lv10
im... 375k with strongest squad with mostly cp padded rolls
Need to join an union that clear day 1 first.
I think hime's actual push squad is below 500k
oh
wait i never saw your main squad before so i just noticed your rrh is max core... holy moly lol
did you silver mileage your helm for core
Nah, she just kept coming out from standard some reason
also, reminder for everybody to get your daily points in before reset. it just dropped i think
whats the max deficit a player can realistically clear anyways? these guys are pushing >45% deficit. stage is currently 624300
You are only synch 230ish lol....
im 263
should be fine if you could clear ch32 boss or at least stuck there
49.90
we haven't seen the real limit yet, at least for overleveled clears
yeah im fine im just comparing to folian/hime who are in my pvp bracket
i was just saying i didnt realize how far ahead their main squad CP was until i added them
looks like someone is bricked
like if you were sync 900 you can get some close to 50% clears
but nobody with sync 900 is that bored
It's more about Dmg issue tbh
how's that function anyways. higher synchro + less cp padding = overall stronger for the cp, is that the concept?
because your base Atk from levels is so much higher
i dont know how much OL inflates cp compared to synchro level
They reduce your stat by deficit
if you look at older clears they are same CP as you but like 40-60 sync higher
so their base Atk can actually get over enemy def
yeah i figured as much, i have a couple of stages where im lowest or second lowest cp all-time and noticed some of them were tanking cp on purpose with 4 units total or stuff like that
but i guess it's also flawed because older players cant really compete for low-cp clears on newer chapters
for normal mode, i mean
well the super old ones are no CP from OL
hey im not TOTALLY bricked, those two are just unbeatable
if they were to convert those stats to our current stats their CP would be considered overleveled
i could be wrong but i dont think so, that change was long before these chapters were released i think
i might be getting nm and hm confused
i dont remember exactly
just look at your synch and comparing to theirs. If they are whale then comparing it to the highest synch non whale below them.
That's how you know if you are brick or not?
yeah im fine, im not bricked i was just commenting that i didnt notice it was so high
for folian and hime, because i just added them recently
350k vs 500k is pretty brick tbh...
no my point is theyre way past the rest of us, the rest of us are around 380k
i cant be brick if im c3
and i only just got jackal too, dont even have noah yet, im still ok
No Noah = brick.
Well, sometime ago, a bracket merged and some dude came complained that 10 whale came to his bracket that pushed him from C1 to diamond. Turning out he was just bricked.
and so did his whole bracket.
at least i pulled jackal yesterday, so im not TOTALLY bricked 😂
tbh if he was bricked but he was the strongest guy then the people below him are learning bad strat too 
Ok, you're 50% bricked, because Noah is kinda a pvp staple.
yeah i know ive been lamenting about that here for ages
most people will not read guide, they just look at the guys above and copy
fortunately this recent shuffle hasnt really changed things
i have another account, same creation time roughly, i have all staple pvp units on that account but its more competitive
but none of them are beating hime/folian anyways so, i have two brackets to compare with
Like @spare brook , his bracket was so bricked, he put on r nikke x5 and no one hit him.
you could totally be right
but for the record, because i have two accounts created within 1 week of each other, i've seen 6 iterations of pvp brackets i think up until this point
whale
account 1 + account 2 | 2 shuffles ago
account 1 + account 2 | before last shuffle
account 1 + account 2 | this current iteration
so i have a pretty decent reference point
at least i think there were 2 shuffles since i started... anybody know when the last shuffle before this recent one was?
Around 3 months ago
okay so yeah, ive seen 6 different iterations of pvp brackets around my account creation date. technically 8, but the first time doesnt count since i was/we were all brand spankin new
so i have a pretty good reference point for the potential players in my bracket
You have potential 64 brackets based on CA
no i think CA casts a wider net, i mean it has to by nature
at the very least, i know that my CA bracket has players that started before old tales
in my spa/rookie brackets, almost everybody is ice dragon saga +
wat evil is dis
wdym
i dont haz it
oh maybe relog?
ok me try
@wet crystal im curious, can u show me who's in your rookie bracket?
thx that worked
Up to the 20th place
i agree
rookie should be people who created their accounts roughly the same week as you
oh interesting, some of those are in my rankings group but i havent seen them in pvp
im not sure about same week, but 2-3 weeks i can believe yeah
depends on account creation time too, if you created it around a more active event there'd be more people split into different groups
My bracket range is 10710-10714
since those are the biggest influx of new players
fyi across my 2 accounts i saw 6 diff pvp brackets, and the only player i've seen until this point that could maybe challenge you and hime is ENT
Haven't seen ENT in all my shuffles yet
I think it's very rare to have people shuffled out, it's more likely to be a merge of 2 less active groups
hmm i guess ASH wont come across you guys at all then, lowest i can see at a quick glance is 10690
interesting to know though
I dont mind matching against bots 
Doesn't matter, I'd still end up top 3 anyway
so sp/rookie brackets are super tight for servers then, CA is way way way wider
I think I've only seen 1 person kicked out of my SPA group and he got added right back in with 3 other whales during the most recent shuffle
for me, ASH was created first day of ice dragon saga, 4sh was created i think right before ice dragon saga hard mode unlocked
Makes it sound like he brought in the crew
Considering I am somewhat more comfortable investing on PVP now, who to prioritize?
I am wondering if I should go for Mana considering she can be nice for pve as well with Mana
This literally happened to me last reshuffle lol, all cp pad
Beating 2 teams with 20% deficits
Depends on your comps, I rarely see mana, and I only see mana against kraken b4 siren release
people were pretty high up on mana when she first released, and then i swear she just disappeared from discussion
for all content
well I can beat everyone ion top 6 but they can beat me back and they also gem so I am just gonna sit at 5th, too tired 
i think mana got powercreeped by maids like right away lmao
Mana is PvP only at this point
i camoflauged at c4 for like a whole month, i was just invisible to everybody competing for c3
snuck my way into CA with that
Still would be useful for wind raids I guess? Or Alice is better there as well?
nah camouflage at 4th doesn't work in my group
Alice with sbs
because 4th is the easiest spot to hit rank 1 from
so people will swing into 4th then 1 instead of swinging into 2/3 to 1
4th also exposed to much lower spot
oh true, that didnt apply to mine because nobody beats hime or folian lol
There's this one guy at C2 that I haven't been able to hit coz it'll be 25% deficit
Ash, you just need Noah and you can attempt me i think
i was going to attempt you today actually, but im a bit low on cp. if i pull noah and put overloads into her i can
we might have to gem war it out buddy
im jk i wont gem
im poor
no gem to spend for CA spot as f2p 
when i get strong enough you can do me a favour by fighting hime then i fight you
so true...
I fight hime then lose c1 in less than a minute lol, you have 20 seconds to attempt me

good enough for me
10 seconds of C1 > 0 seconds of c1
my record on 2 accounts: dorothy, r r r. exactly the same
Pilgrim molds are a scam
im praying for noah today
noah on 4sh, crown on ash
They'll update the mold to CN rate someday 
I got 1 from 3 
btw, speaking of server numbers im totally cooked on this account
I want scarlet
otherwise I'll build rei t
wait you dont have scarlet?
...yet
Nope 29/50
ah ok
I'm at stage 130, idk how many 50s that was but I've only gotten harran from it
Someone tell that vinos guy to stop losing whenever i bet on him
well wish me luck, i need to break free from this dorothy + r r r (? amount of r's)
im expecting only a blue today though
Well, at least the one I got was SBS
but honestly the chances of noah specifically is so damn low that i kinda already dont care about the rest
Molds have same rate
if it is noah though you already know im spam pinging you and hime instantly
I base my pulls depending on how my dispatch rng goes
They don't have SR/R 
oh speaking of dispatch, today i think i will unlock level 20 infrastructure core, so +1 dispatch
They can still fail
is that +1 regular roll?
You see that SR literally has same rate as SSR 
Yeh
What, this is a kr game right
Did kr get it first then cn
this is Korean game
CN first
tencent just runs their game differently
CN molds can still fail and you ain't listening 

it's more of a tencent thing than it is a shiftup thing
Fail for 1/5 guarantee Pillgrim molds 
they are also like way behind the rest of the world, so.... who cares really
For what, one extra Snow White every 2 years?
what even is their pilgrim pool right now
Better than extra iDoll
EVERY 2 YEARS 
its kinda apples to oranges though, one pilgrim from the past year > their entire pilgrim pool
Also, I want that iDoll Ocean named Levi
they can save their molds, just depends on how patient their playerbase is
nvm i changed my mind i want cn molds, 8.3% noah
at that point, its just not fun anymore
Idk how well the game is ranking on their app stores
id rather have what we have than KNOW id be doing myself a favour by saving molds for 2 years
compared to other games
Ocean is Orange tho
cuz they have a lot of QoL but they also have a lot of changes that would make me not want to play 
Very minor QOLs
Different story isn't a reason to gatekeep QoLs
They already got Exclusive Privaty skin
And Alice skin as base
Their Alice is worse
Considering my Pilgrim mold rate is 33.3% I would take it sir.
I like that one better tbh
CN players will use Alice as much as we use Ade
I ain't gonna date anyone with bodysuit
ok hold on, different molds is not a matter of QoL
QoL is like... auto tower or whatever they have
5s loading
yeah that stuff ill take
Not on mobile
I play PC 
I only wait for their SR frame and CA tbh
It said that they got better frame
Yeah molds are literally topic of fearness
actually cn nikke might be fun for the different meta
They also have Union raid hard mode right out of the batch, meaning double cube upgrade speed right away. 
Gonna catch up with global in no time.
Can they complete normal mode though?
day one even
Can't wait CN PvP meta
I guess they reduced union raid difficulties for early server ofc...
1 week old server can already clear union raid day one with 10+ unions.
Or they just 🐳
You can't get 500 level in one week. Union level as well.
you can spy on union ranking and see what the top player's sync and CP is 
see which monkey already spend to C7 Snow White 
im gonna try out cn nikke rn
i literally just guessed my password, took 10 tries but i got it and got my wechat account back
clutch
Or C7 Scarlet
im going in blind though, i cant read chinese lmao
Learn
it's not that hard 
There is a CN player on the CN benefit thread, I just asked him and waiting for reply.

Okay average level of top union in CN is 177, so their UR is much easier than us if they could clear UR normal mode day one.
I guess they are bottlenecked by battle data still
thought sync 200 was easier to get to but guess not
correction, top union only cleared normal mode today, their 3rd day.
their current union raid is the same as global first UR.
I need a team for rookie arena
oh wow. Union frames are nice
Jack+Noah+HelmT+Biscuit+Scarlet
Noah+Biscuit+HelmT+RH+Jackal
Scar+Siren+HelmT+Trina+Jackal
Scar+Blanc+RH+HelmT+Jackal (Helm to p2 if linked)
That's lots of SR 15 doll for your synch...
is it? when considering the drake pass
I have 14 total since doll system online.
whats your synch
404 but it doesn't matter because everyone had the same starting line with doll since it onlined few months ago.
I thought that was common knowledge 🤔
Ill keep it in mind on the list of things to include with an expanded faq
Ppl not on discord will nvr know pvp things ig 
No one checks pins anyways 

It is common knowledge to not do it, not the reason why
It's common knowledge if you come to here and got laughed at for doing that.
for me:
account 1 synchro 263: 8 SR15, 6 SR5/R15, no kits left
account 2 synchro 264: 9 SR15, 9 SR5/R15, 200 purple kits & 100 gold kits left
account 3 synchro 202 (started during siren banner): 5 SR15, 2 SR5/R15, even more kits left
oh really? when did dolls start
You guys laughing at people while I'm not here?

Around 1-3 month after crown I think.
google shows as early as june of 2024
about right
I think it was on Crown release, since then we got Viper treasure at summer
thats still quite a head start on those of us around 260-270 synch
If anything it had to be right on the next banner
No the earliest reddit post about it was 11-12 months ago. 1-2 months after crown. The first batch of treasure came same time as doll.
Hmmmmmm
So summer event it is.
in any case i'd consider my account 1 luck to be pretty bad, and i think that other player's 11 SR15 and 2 SR5/R15 isnt too far ahead of mine
When did you start?

accounts 1 & 2: ice dragon saga
month? Day? for easy of judgment man.
account 1: december 5 specifically, account 2: around 1-2 weeks after
So you should have number of month play + 2(drake event) SR15 as common luck. 8 is right amount.
You acc 2 is just super lucky
idunno but i just know that compared to other people in my pvp bracket and rankings, i was way behind on dolls
Idk how you say way behind, I guess many people are just RNG blessed.
Rerolling dispatch and using the right doll mats, make a big diff

You mean I upgraded r1 to r15 and 14 sr15 while rosy upgrade S0 to 15 and 22 Sr15?
And spending 100-150 gem a day on average to reroll dispatch isn't enough?
Rosy does not have 22sr15 
They do.

my 1 month old account was only 1 SR 15 behind my 6 month old account up until the end of drake pass
rng hits diff
Winter
December
X maiden banner

He already reply afterward
wtf you started in ice dragon saga, same as me, and you ahve 22 SR15?
oh i thought you were answering for yourself
no way rosy has that many sr15 
No, he start January last year.
More than me?
nono nvm miscommunication
Have 20 
@umbral crown show it to this pleb

Last I saw rosy said 21, now it's 20 after RH done. 
same 
X maiden at SR10


Gib another matis pass

To make some more
Te goal is to go to CA with 5 teams max doll , making a whale impression when people check my teams

Rosy is a whale already 
Lol rip
Why would I do that?
To send a message
Gems are temporary, psychic damage is forever 
The boi who won against me in CA is already sending a message to anyone it seems
Now i notice he is 432
The profile message?
He has had that since forever (since at least S1 when I clicked on him I think. I remembered him because seeing a JP on our server is so rare)
Maybe some wars in sp 
JP
. Not sure why he is on global
Imagine if he is an alt lol and he just spends on multiple accounts
@umbral crown Rosy what are the sync levels of your opponents in SP like? I'm starting to think top 4 is going to be rough for me soon
I'm 390s, two are 410s, one is above 500(holy crap). My server group is in the 26000s. Isn't your competition potentially crazy with your sync level since your server group is earlier in the 19000s? 
Mmm not really, C1 is 461, im C2 at 377, C3 is 412, C4 401, C5 377z C6 401 but they do not really try against me
Usually PelG and RM trading for C4
C1 got 461 boost and now is over 2.6m
Ah, so it's mostly quiet 
Yeah, weij knows me since wall days at 160, same as villian privaty. In Sp they have never tried since i got in this bracket
Before i was gemming all the time

So its beem months since last time i gemmed, well against the C1 when i was in range
But the gap in levels is too much

My SP group is so toxic through gemming attacks and the craziest profile messages to the point where I don't dare put on an arena profile frame. The S3 CA runner up has been in my same SP group since we started playing and he is not someone to be messed with. 
Just gem him down
His profile messages are wiiiiild
My SP reshuffle has someone with KR client who hits me 5mins after I hit him. When it's 4AM their time 
Bro early
I had to use Google translate to translate the CN but holy moly

Bro is not only early, I timed the hits this week and he is consistent, doesn't matter if it's 2 AM, 4 or later. He always hits back in 1 hour
We gemmed each other for 1k already
Find his sleeping time by hitting him 24/7
I don't even change my def because my pvp units are not all OL yet. He changed his 5-6x already
Probably from 1AM KR time to 4AM at most
Bro is perma online 
Some people don't sleep at normal time
You won't even sure if he is actually living in Korea
Yeah I hit him during all times of the day already
Some people don't sleep at the exact time every day
There is also script to automatically hit back with preset team...
Weirdest about him is that guy not trying for rank 1
Rank 1 is my union mate and I can hit him no problem if I want to
Instead he never tried for that guy, only me 
Because you don't have arena investment and don't change def
Number 1 guy has even less arena investment
Literally cp pad. And not far enough to be unbeatable, I could beat him
Rule 1 of hitting in SpA is that don't hit 2 guys at the same time
I hit everyone in top 6 already just to test the waters 
U are just easier picking
Splitting resources 
That's rookie
Made too many enemies 
Other whales in my bracket have more c7 and higher sync than me and mald less in SP 
I know, I whale less for resources than my bracket does though 
Or rather, I don't whale for core dust and other daily/weekly/monthly stuff
That's why you got hit.
My Gemmer only 10 level above me with lots of skin and high core units. And he had to gem to keep me from getting over him. 
Yep makes sense. I'm 20-30 lvls behind + I mainly spend for pulls and skins. Have 3 C7 including Alice but they have like all EVA c7 and all pilgrim banners
can't and won't compete with them in the long term 
J
yea you're basically f2p

F2p btw 
I would do that
Feels no good been the one not 401 in my top 10
Besides privaty boi of course
Do it short term to have some fun
rosy green 
it is kinda fun to poke and make ppl change defenses 
Could someone help me with a SP arena set up for all teams? I want a set up that I can just set and forget and not think about too hard. Im willing to invest in Nikke for a team that is decent. I have every relevant Nikke minus Trina and a couple of exclusive ones. TY :)
what difference does having charge speed on all pvp rl do?
the burst gen calculators don't count on you having the enough charge speed right?
so uh, third team for some reason have no burst I?
switch centi with rumani or just use the first version
clip RL are generally interchangable
just fit whatever burst is missing
i added liter and it worked
instead of bunny soda 💀
as long as you know that it downgrades to 4RL
well ruamani is in team 1 , and i switched to version 2 mostly because it didnt work soo
emilia on 3 different CS% tiers
the main difference is that you'll burst first
as long as opponent doesn't have equal CS%
2.5RL on same CS%, but you with slightly higher CS% = you burst slightly first, e.g. your B3 hits before theirs if both are instant
Well, managed to grab 10h of #1 spot, good enough. They're apparently sitting in the arena menu today, 'cause 4 minutes after i grabbed back #1, they already took it back, and changed their whole def lineup :p
so Emilia is cheating? got it 😄
that's ok, you can play an actual game while they play waiting game, don't bother 
Oh for sure, not to mention i have no intention of "gem fighting" the top 3 😄
uh.... where do you get 38% charge speed?
any noahless def team for rookie arena?
only emilia due s1
plenty

Rosy is pvp MA now 

an example pls
many teams
I don't have Emilia, who else can use the charge speed and make a big difference?
At least rosy shouldn’t be misinformation academy
pvp ma is like defense of the dark arts teacher in harry potter, ||they disappear frequently||


MA have too sides, misinformation, or disappearance
here's 4
like the avatar
time to disappear

no problemo
helm and all other clip RLs on 17%CS
if anything the lad that gets to finals in CA has probably tiny chances to misinform 
plus he likes Helm and yuri, i'd say that earns enough trust already
just run grave and cindy in your CA comps you'll be fine, it's clearly a superior comp
ye cindy in p1 possibly
cindy in p1 is a given
10/10
So liking crow would earn less trust
I'd laugh if someone got to CA finals running crow 😄
drastically increased odds of winning for the opponent
once I get them to 17% CS, where can I calculate the burst gen?
ye absolutely drop trust, hell make it -1
wax off
wax on
this is the tool I use but doesn't have charge speed option
and doesn't shut up about it though to be fair 😄
like every chance to bring it up, never missed
new def appeared:
drunklet siren rumani trina jackal 2RL
Noise Noah Sbs rapu biscuit 3RL
Thelm blanc redhood rosanna centi 3RL
what's the purpose of rosanna in team 3? she won't burst with RH being p3 . Just to dispel?
idk if my drunklet can nuke team 2 (10/7/10, trina 5/10/7), should I try to nuke team 3 instead even though she is dispelled?
I could just Noah team 1 or blanc team 2, what do you guys suggest 
it is, gets boring very quickly 😛
if one of your units dies, then he gets more burst gen also dispel
no shame allowed here, shame free space
right, I forgot about rosanna s2 burst gain 
he's trying to either make you sacc helmT and get RH indommed or just get helmT indommed
either way you've several options
T1 you need noise taunt priority else noah gets stunned
T2 you can scar jack on double or triple buff or you can stall with p1 defender taunter + biscuit
T3 you can scar jack on single buff
another alternative is to run rosanna against T1, you'll delete scarlet and siren, they can't B3 anymore (jackal link broken at 1RL, you can then burst at 2RL B1 rosanna to 1hitko)
yet another alterivate, 2RL with bay in p4 for T1 then noah 2RL either T2 or T3 (this also allows you to have scarlet and noah free)
my rosanna is still unbuilt 
slacking
solo raid units eating my upgrade mats 
is base Bay burst enough or does she need investment?
this is like defense number 6 or 7 I'm trying to beat 
yeah, post it. we no good at guessing uwu
The guy from yesterday wanted us to play Battleship
he never posted target
Rail I finally did it
who was it anyway
Burst 10 
Don't remember name....
get that resistance shred going
yep 🙂
nothing missed then 

you dont have burst 10 blanc? 
after biscuit is rumani, atm waiting for mats to upgrade both to base OL. SR5 on her as well
Burst 7 
what's noah and noise CS%
you got drake pass and your blanc is not lv10?
noise 4.92%, noah 0 
I must save for collab/Anchor 
anchor?
Maid anchor
that's a noah taunt prority, RIP
What 
nothing

@polar echo weij running something interesting these days in SP? you can start figh him next season . i wonder why pelg does not go for him
3 more levels for boost
442 

2.7m?
Don't remember 
try this and record it, your teams are on the left
thanks, appreciate it
if it doesn't work we can try getting siren to taunt noah, but that's assuming opponent has noah taunt, we'll see it from the record
My Emilia not strong enough
Noah's surviving
at least you know what to work on

Right ...

why are you guys laughing
did you try what we cooked last time?
where's video
I told you, not enough HP for your cooking
not even with vigor?
Nope
You will know this if you pulled Emilia 
i'm hitting ch1 on 62 levels difference just fine without her 
oh wait it's not even 62 anymore, it's 68 

What amount of attack has your Summer anis 

and counting 
worked beautifully:
noise got stunned, rapu bursted but scar managed to kill both noise and sbs with burst, rapu and biscuit barely survived with 5% or less.
helm nuke killed RH, rosanna nuke was absorbed by noah burst 
trick is yap more 😄
How important is Attack% OL for Cindy? I have 4ele OL but only 1 Atk OL been debating rerolling her but idk if it matters
@unique wagon
Doesn’t matter much in pve, matters in pvp


Levi when
Oh I mean yeah I'm asking in the pvp channel
Should I aim for a certain amount of attack % to make sure I kill things or does no one know what's ideal for Cindy
sooner then liberaio i bet
It’s all dependent on opponent setup vs urs, atk line simply increases the likelihood nuking hp/def buffed team, no strict theosold unless i got data for ca
Wow. I just saw some seriously bricked account:
I have 3 attack lines
I can tell that
Hmmm alright. Was hoping there was maybe a talk I could read to aim for a certain % like how Rossanna everyone reccs 40-50%+ Atk OL and wanted to see if there was a similar goal for Cindy. I just wonder if my Cindy teams ever lose matchups while lacking dmg but no clue atm
I wouldn’t prioritize Cindy 4 atk
Other nuke needs it more then her
But Cindy atk also benefit pve so
i thought tibi quit nikke?!
Depends on ur priority
good, I don't want to roll 3rd line
Just claiming dailies at this point not really quitting
but you need that atk line to pass MC and behemoth 
TiBi, give me anchor 
Yeah mainly if I decide to roll for Atk OL on Cindy I'll be dropping my CP by a lot cause I have like random black charge dmg lines and such that arn't actually that great but are great CP pad for hardmode and stuff so just weighing my options
why didn’t u pull her banner
Maybe not yet 
Yeah cp is another factor lol
Why sync u at

lvl 446
Spend some of my blue ticket, no anchor dup but got a few pilgrim dups
Still have 400 left but no point spending…
Speaking of which shouldnt u be at mc now u're like 44x
3 more levels than me
we could be on same bracket

I'm stuck
Better start full investing your Moran/Nero team... 
Blk charge dmg isn’t that bad for pve, a regular cd is already better then 4th ammo or even 3rd ammo if other 2 ammo has high%
And u should be close (or already, if u malds hard) dealing with goddamn mc wall, so yeah, hard to get rid of that line
mc wall? Is that a hardmode boss?
Hard mirror container
when is that 
And after that there’s still behemoth that needs Cindy
Lemme check how far I am
Who's your C1 
I'm at 32-2 Hardmode but I've been lazy and could push more but haven't lately but don't think I get much farther than this for a bit

Oh no
You have 3 max ammo lines on Cindy?
I only have 1
i dont, just wanted to do the math eventho i didnt minmax 12 lines for her
I'm at 11 lines....
C1?
Challenger 1
usually it takes 481 or 501 to clear mc depending on ur elec team cp, gl
501 to be sure
bro got 541 boost
He's only 100 levels higher than me no big deal
501 is safe even without good elec cp ye, 481 usually requires invested elec lines
Good lord :deadge:

its trony
I have like 7-8 levels of core dust in boxes atm was debating saving until next campaign drop but yeah sounds like I'll be here a while anyways. I do have 20+ ele lines on Cindy but that's def not going to be enough 
so whale
I don't even have 1 level saved
its up to u but i would get 461 before stacking again
Yeah I was thinking about that as well probably best idea
oh oke sounds good 
is this noah
Damn

not noah but not R, ILL TAKE IT
W take

yall wont wanna see my 500 pilgrim mold pull...

i used to think mfs being clown for stacking 500 pilgrim molds and now....
i think i need to buy a noah spare body from mileage shop first for good luck
omg the jackal pull 2 days ago really got me over the hump
thats a successful defense against all the risky ones
c3 is mine again
Need help with this comp
they could probably do it, but just losing an attempt helps me maintain c3
i refuse to invest unless its noah
just wait until one of them gems 
T1: Moran Biscuit B3
T2: 2RL Scar
T3: 2RL Noah/Bay
Wdym
For T1 anything faster than 4RL is good? Stick SAnis in T1 team?
SAnis will lose that
Any b3 works bis hard counters that
Hmm okay, can change T1 to slower Blanc if u want to. Otherwise can skip
And Blanc is just counter Moran
i didnt see the blanc 
i have the ultimate defense technique
Hmmm if I skip T1 and go 2RL on both T2/T3. maybe tricky without Trina
oh yeah that blank team is 4rl sbs still has few more shots to mess with after bis invuln
This is such an under rated feature. Surely not everyone knows this 
Wdym Tricky
Could probably auto T1 comp tbh, I think can CP gap 
yeah, cp gap 
add a Trina and she might still tank long enough for team to live… tho just snipe 4rl blanc
And u don’t even need to snipe her
my defense went up massively after i found out... i was manually copy pasting all 3 teams to paint and redoing it each time before
Blanc is dead there to most setups
what's rosanna skill investment? 7/10/10?
s2 depends on ur sacc team gen, best maxed if for ca sg sacc
thanks! and OL wise, 4 atk, crit rate and what's the last one? ele not that useful, not many waters besides Helm and emilia afaik 
gotta farm tetra gear again 
wants 1-2 ele, and lol thats 10 lines already with atk/cr dont think u want her 12 lines its too expensive imo
ATK > Crit > Ele = CDMG
tho its more like... sniping both helm and scar against such team since her burst is nerfed there...
12/12 rosanna is too expensive for me atm 
I'll be pushed out by sync gap someday anyway 
It's depend on your comp
and well sniping hp/def buffed water code
i would say ele > cd
but atk crit is enough for most cases
I highly recommend Sacc + Noir with her
clip SG + passive atk buff right? 
ye
Sometimes 1 sacc might not enough to nuke DPS
Noir here just to seal the kill w/o Crit
sounds good 
Just 4x atk is fine. CA wants s2 maxed. For SPA, s2 at 4 is fine
"just 4 attack is fine" and I only can get 1
you guys have so much roks 
150+ on helm now and nowhere close to 11 lines
if i dont need to waste rocks on niche pvp character thats only viable in some sr might as well skip and save....
true 
tbh even for a character as strong as siren, 9 lines are more then enough to me
strong but not gamebreaking despite she literally does more dmg then my sbs (sbs has slight worse lines)
9 Black lines sure more than enough
atk elem 1 ammo is enough for most cases... 3rd line gain is rather marginal and yet quite expensive
rerolling second line can end up getting a useful 3rd line for like one of the gears so its a nice spot to slot ammo/4th atk
Hello! Does anyone know where to find that Google Sheet to calculate our comp Burst Gen?
I keep seeing someone posting it here but I couldn't find it on the pinned section
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11KWYeyvef91A-vfFuqglJJ8-OhR90TcKFVpJ6Ny_5h4/edit?usp=sharing
Can also use nikke-deck.web.app
Is it possible to add Quantum Cube calc here?
Locked to lv7
Not newbie friendly 
So theoritically my Rosa with 1 sacc and 45% ATK + Noir should be able to kill any dps w/o Crit and with Tempering lv7
I need 1more Cindy
Yeah, generally needs 1 kill to guarantee OHKO 
Don't you think we should have DMG Taken Increase cube
That’s too OP 
Tempering already too OP, we need something to fight it tho
Devs dont care about pvp 
barely, s2 level does something, and burst is mostly for ca team
plug and use type of nik, rare enough to see now
That cube will be OP for PvE as well 
Imagine Cindy with 9% dmg taken 
4/4/4 4OL ezpz
That
You know what, we should have Nikke that kill their own allies and revive it
That would be pretty interesting. Kills P5 nikke upon entering battle 
Or some SR unit that self-destructs upon entering battle
Forces more ppl to build Rosanna
Actually 2.8 m isn't that high
It's the final dmg, after being reduced with DEF and Dmg reduction from Dolls and Cubes
Yes, lv400 HP is higher than that.
And what if the opponent have def line?
Will that throw off your own calc?
Actually I forgot to delete +14.85% Def from Moran lol
Is it worth to upgrade tempering cube above lv 7?
It will be under 100% HP Dmg if it's more than 18% Def from OL
I think the extra slots are pretty good
yes if ur resil is already lv11
Resil 15 
sweaty
then its worry free to upgrade any pvp cubes
Guys can please help making arena team for me
crow treasure 
Rail is always fast
Will be with you soon
You should invest more (reroll their overloads) your weak units like Moran, Bay, Noah, etc sir
and I too slow
what are these sus teams 
I don't like unprotected Cindy nuke 
@wise horizon your Ein is more invested
Replace Summer Anis with her
Wow! Thanks a lot
Would love to but holding out for collab
Same tbh
Never played Stella blade but I’m pretty hype for it
me too, I hope for a good VOICEDstory
I don’t remember but did they do voice for Nier and Eva?
Too bad but I guess it would cost more
I think is more about "why voice something will never be available ever again"
I still think is a better use of money than for example space ad
his moran and bay arent built, he gonna get cp gapped 
I hate Cindy kamikaze I hate Cindy kamikaze 
Is the recommendation i got fine? or should i change anything about it :D
I delivered my criticism at that time 
So, don't worry
@wise horizon swap only if your combat power doesn't plummets
Siren team should be fine though 
Bruh just did a co.op with a cheater mod APK ... 2 wipe 1 tentacle and she still alive ... Only died on the 3rd wipe...

I think I will be ok for that SP arena defense you made for me.
I still haven’t attacked that guy yet from earlier.
xd
That is true but it sucks for those people who missed out on Emilia
She’s still used in PvP arena
Record 
I think I might just make a new account to clear at 50% deficit with mod apk just to laugh @pale knoll

Seriously what's wrong with you 
Will do once I get round to making 2RL Noah and 2RL scarlet. Wish I rolled for Trina which would have made life so much easier
Oh yes, that's a banner I made sure myself to not skip it 

@keen vapor
Ok, all good
Thanks!!🙏
Just counted and I have a grand total of 24sr5 and 14 sr15. 
Apparently spending 150 gem a day to reroll dispatch on average only brought my below average luck to average. 
Same
i didn't count SR5s
Count it 
I only have 15SR5 
Seems like my account is bricked

So brick 
The irony. 
Blood, I have saved kits, it won't be an accurate enough measure
Win! Thanks. Now to see if your SP arena defense will hold 🙏
lemme recount I maybe counted it wrong and treated 14 as 24
just count
tell me your saved kits if you wanted to
i did a couple of times, rosanna, noise nd someone else i do not remember
Okay recounted, I have 22 sr5 and 14sr15
happy for all you lucky people
Do you spend 150 gem a day on average to reroll dispatch though?
I hit SR14 and even SR9.
50-100 gems
lemme count again
might not be updated
I spending range from 50 to 400. So I average it as 150.

And at least you have rock luck when I have none.
22 SR5s
We're equal until I use some of my 350 blue kits
Are you just mirroring me now. 
It'll be 24 if I decided to doll up Mast and Tia
just put sr0 on tia
she has zero place in campaign and SpA. Meaning sr5 useless on her.
And RL dolls don't rain either
15 sr15 and 15 sr5 
Hey, you got an extra maxed out 
If you have high sr15 you don't need to count sr5. 

You bricked?
you don't have saved kits?
imagine saving kits
Saving for collab
nah, you need to upgrade the units you have right now
Then again
24 if I had Anchor









