#pvp-arena

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atomic wolf
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because he started WAY late than me and i havae only played for 8 months and 5 days

jagged mesa
atomic wolf
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full of shit, he started two weeks after me

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his sync is 404, no sign of stopping and me 301

jagged mesa
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what are your synch levels btw

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omg LOL

atomic wolf
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and WHAT would be the second person's sync you ask

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370

restive heart
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welp mines at 130%+ max ammo KEKW

quick lake
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Low/zero ammo scar is able to avoid Siren’s stun. But u lose like 20% atk buff cause of her s1 as well

atomic wolf
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this is clearly balancing

quick lake
jagged mesa
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@umbral belfry you know what this means? jackal gave me the the defense against two of the wild cards so it's time to reclaim 3 and try to hold it

atomic wolf
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put one f2p player in a bracket full of whale and make him suffer

atomic wolf
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REALLY JUST WANT TO MAKE ME SHOOT MYSEFL

quick lake
atomic wolf
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garbage dog shit game

umbral belfry
jagged mesa
quick lake
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Im in SPA war now. Top 7 are shuffling about KEKWut

atomic wolf
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@umbral belfrybtw fun fact, if you are not aware already

atomic wolf
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champion arena ranking order is entirely based on level

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so we are effectively at the bottom of the food chain

umbral belfry
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what do you mean?

jagged mesa
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wdym ranking order?

umbral belfry
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I guess that makes sense overall but oof

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at least we're on the list?

atomic wolf
jagged mesa
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ahhhh

atomic wolf
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notice the ranking based on sync? yeah

umbral belfry
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guess we're still the lowest bracket then?

atomic wolf
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it's level based so we have the lowest and were put at the bottom

placid bloom
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I already gave up my CA spot, the new guys gem and can brute force my defense with CP TimiProud

umbral belfry
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that's kinda surprising, would've togught at least one more would've popped up by now

atomic wolf
quick lake
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I alr dropped out of top 100 sadge

jagged mesa
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no there are definitely newer brackets for CA

atomic wolf
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check here

jagged mesa
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a couple of them have posted in here, and they're commander level like 100

quick lake
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Sad

atomic wolf
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the guy above you is literally 150 levels of difference

placid bloom
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No it’s bracket + clear time

umbral belfry
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ah yes all I need to do is gain 150ish levels poggies

atomic wolf
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we are LITERALLY at the bottom of the food chain

placid bloom
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We are the lowest bracket and you are the latest clear

umbral belfry
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the babies saj

placid bloom
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That’s why you are at the bottom

atomic wolf
umbral belfry
jagged mesa
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are you sure? there have been people here asking about CA in a bracket full of commander level 100-200s

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unless im missing the point

atomic wolf
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ok let me put this in a much clearer perspective

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the numbers shown aka actual ranking number (19) is calculated based on clear time
while the order of who gets to that ranking is sorted from highest to lowest commander level

placid bloom
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Well you are tied for the placement so do you really care what order it shows in hmmz

atomic wolf
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no just some random shit i autistically observed

jagged mesa
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LOL

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i can relate...

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that said im like 99% sure we arent the lowest level CA group

quick lake
atomic wolf
crystal flicker
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Day #1 of complaining for SU to fix PvP, esp CA and Cheering

jagged mesa
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maybe im dumb and cant read

restive heart
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@quick lake any rookie def teams recommendation? Doro

atomic wolf
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i'm agreeing with you

keen vapor
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Is it? Cindy P1 is FAQ material? Is it?

jagged mesa
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we good

atomic wolf
jagged mesa
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@wet crystal im adding you in-game pls be my friend

placid bloom
jagged mesa
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wait wtf you have noah

keen vapor
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Noah ShiftyHi

keen vapor
wet crystal
jagged mesa
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what a lie, i didnt even know you had noah

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not on 4sh anyways

keen vapor
swift mango
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Same bro, my Rapipi, Crown, Siren with 4 lines of CS or CD. pain

wet crystal
jagged mesa
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so im going to try to hold 3rd now

wet crystal
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Hell yeah

keen vapor
jagged mesa
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zzz went back to sleep it seems

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so now it just depends on if dkaze can beat me

wet crystal
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I think ZZZ is done. Its gonna be you, dkaze, and Chinese character

swift mango
jagged mesa
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this defense against 2 (even if only sometimes) means im back in the race for 3

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now all thats left is pray for noah every day (and dolls)

wet crystal
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You guys 260-ish sync around?

jagged mesa
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chinese character 271, the other two 265, im 263

swift mango
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Nvm different guy

placid bloom
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you need to push campaign harder hmmz

wet crystal
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I want more ways to level up gears

jagged mesa
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@swift mango see this image

jagged mesa
jagged mesa
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im way past the other guys in campaign anyways

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i dont know how they're higher level than me

placid bloom
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they probably convert battle data

jagged mesa
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i do too

placid bloom
wet crystal
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Cha-ching

placid bloom
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I don't

jagged mesa
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i think im actually lowest cp clear in the past month for a lot of stages, lowest cp clear by 10k for hard campaign

swift mango
wet crystal
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He's gonna come back a mega whale

jagged mesa
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i could probably go further but i havent tried yet because i know ill just get stuck at nihilister

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i kid you guys not i spent 3h straight on 19 boss

wet crystal
jagged mesa
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maybe 4h

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i brought that boss down to x12 hp like 5 times before i cleared it

placid bloom
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you get +1 CD/h at 20-22 I think if you can clear the cancer defense stage

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20-24 if you can't

jagged mesa
placid bloom
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oh yeah you're not full clear on NM

jagged mesa
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im 360k cp with anchor

swift mango
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Anyone here still doing Union raid hard mode at this hour?pepehmmm

jagged mesa
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failed all my maintenance on anchor

wet crystal
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I feel you, I was stuck at nihil at 481k, kept failing so I spent the next 3 days building a liter

wet crystal
jagged mesa
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i knew you guys were high but not 500k+ high

crystal flicker
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What hard mode? I literally the one who take Alteisen lv10

jagged mesa
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im... 375k with strongest squad with mostly cp padded rolls

swift mango
wet crystal
jagged mesa
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oh

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wait i never saw your main squad before so i just noticed your rrh is max core... holy moly lol

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did you silver mileage your helm for core

wet crystal
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Nah, she just kept coming out from standard some reason

jagged mesa
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also, reminder for everybody to get your daily points in before reset. it just dropped i think

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whats the max deficit a player can realistically clear anyways? these guys are pushing >45% deficit. stage is currently 624300

swift mango
jagged mesa
swift mango
placid bloom
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we haven't seen the real limit yet, at least for overleveled clears

jagged mesa
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yeah im fine im just comparing to folian/hime who are in my pvp bracket

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i was just saying i didnt realize how far ahead their main squad CP was until i added them

swift mango
placid bloom
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like if you were sync 900 you can get some close to 50% clears

swift mango
placid bloom
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but nobody with sync 900 is that bored

crystal flicker
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It's more about Dmg issue tbh

jagged mesa
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how's that function anyways. higher synchro + less cp padding = overall stronger for the cp, is that the concept?

placid bloom
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because your base Atk from levels is so much higher

jagged mesa
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i dont know how much OL inflates cp compared to synchro level

crystal flicker
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They reduce your stat by deficit

placid bloom
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if you look at older clears they are same CP as you but like 40-60 sync higher

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so their base Atk can actually get over enemy def

jagged mesa
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yeah i figured as much, i have a couple of stages where im lowest or second lowest cp all-time and noticed some of them were tanking cp on purpose with 4 units total or stuff like that

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but i guess it's also flawed because older players cant really compete for low-cp clears on newer chapters

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for normal mode, i mean

placid bloom
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well the super old ones are no CP from OL

jagged mesa
placid bloom
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if they were to convert those stats to our current stats their CP would be considered overleveled

jagged mesa
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i could be wrong but i dont think so, that change was long before these chapters were released i think

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i might be getting nm and hm confused

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i dont remember exactly

swift mango
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That's how you know if you are brick or not?

jagged mesa
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for folian and hime, because i just added them recently

swift mango
jagged mesa
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no my point is theyre way past the rest of us, the rest of us are around 380k

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i cant be brick if im c3

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and i only just got jackal too, dont even have noah yet, im still ok

signal hull
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No Noah = brick.

swift mango
# jagged mesa i cant be brick if im c3

Well, sometime ago, a bracket merged and some dude came complained that 10 whale came to his bracket that pushed him from C1 to diamond. Turning out he was just bricked.KEKW

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and so did his whole bracket.

jagged mesa
placid bloom
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tbh if he was bricked but he was the strongest guy then the people below him are learning bad strat too TimiProud

signal hull
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Ok, you're 50% bricked, because Noah is kinda a pvp staple.

jagged mesa
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yeah i know ive been lamenting about that here for ages

placid bloom
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most people will not read guide, they just look at the guys above and copy

jagged mesa
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fortunately this recent shuffle hasnt really changed things

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i have another account, same creation time roughly, i have all staple pvp units on that account but its more competitive

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but none of them are beating hime/folian anyways so, i have two brackets to compare with

swift mango
jagged mesa
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you could totally be right

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but for the record, because i have two accounts created within 1 week of each other, i've seen 6 iterations of pvp brackets i think up until this point

crystal flicker
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whale

jagged mesa
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account 1 + account 2 | 2 shuffles ago
account 1 + account 2 | before last shuffle
account 1 + account 2 | this current iteration

so i have a pretty decent reference point

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at least i think there were 2 shuffles since i started... anybody know when the last shuffle before this recent one was?

crystal flicker
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Around 3 months ago

jagged mesa
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okay so yeah, ive seen 6 different iterations of pvp brackets around my account creation date. technically 8, but the first time doesnt count since i was/we were all brand spankin new

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so i have a pretty good reference point for the potential players in my bracket

crystal flicker
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You have potential 64 brackets based on CA

jagged mesa
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no i think CA casts a wider net, i mean it has to by nature

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at the very least, i know that my CA bracket has players that started before old tales

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in my spa/rookie brackets, almost everybody is ice dragon saga +

jagged mesa
hollow lagoon
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i dont haz it

jagged mesa
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oh maybe relog?

hollow lagoon
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ok me try

jagged mesa
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@wet crystal im curious, can u show me who's in your rookie bracket?

hollow lagoon
placid bloom
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rookie should be people who created their accounts roughly the same week as you

jagged mesa
jagged mesa
placid bloom
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depends on account creation time too, if you created it around a more active event there'd be more people split into different groups

wet crystal
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My bracket range is 10710-10714

placid bloom
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since those are the biggest influx of new players

jagged mesa
# wet crystal Up to the 20th place

fyi across my 2 accounts i saw 6 diff pvp brackets, and the only player i've seen until this point that could maybe challenge you and hime is ENT

wet crystal
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Haven't seen ENT in all my shuffles yet

placid bloom
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I think it's very rare to have people shuffled out, it's more likely to be a merge of 2 less active groups

jagged mesa
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hmm i guess ASH wont come across you guys at all then, lowest i can see at a quick glance is 10690

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interesting to know though

wet crystal
crystal flicker
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Doesn't matter, I'd still end up top 3 anyway

jagged mesa
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so sp/rookie brackets are super tight for servers then, CA is way way way wider

placid bloom
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I think I've only seen 1 person kicked out of my SPA group and he got added right back in with 3 other whales during the most recent shuffle

jagged mesa
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for me, ASH was created first day of ice dragon saga, 4sh was created i think right before ice dragon saga hard mode unlocked

wet crystal
grand plaza
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Considering I am somewhat more comfortable investing on PVP now, who to prioritize?

I am wondering if I should go for Mana considering she can be nice for pve as well with Mana

crystal flicker
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Beating 2 teams with 20% deficits

wet crystal
# grand plaza

Depends on your comps, I rarely see mana, and I only see mana against kraken b4 siren release

jagged mesa
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people were pretty high up on mana when she first released, and then i swear she just disappeared from discussion

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for all content

placid bloom
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well I can beat everyone ion top 6 but they can beat me back and they also gem so I am just gonna sit at 5th, too tired FrimaSleep

jagged mesa
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i think mana got powercreeped by maids like right away lmao

placid bloom
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Mana is PvP only at this point

jagged mesa
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snuck my way into CA with that

grand plaza
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Still would be useful for wind raids I guess? Or Alice is better there as well?

placid bloom
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nah camouflage at 4th doesn't work in my group

placid bloom
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because 4th is the easiest spot to hit rank 1 from

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so people will swing into 4th then 1 instead of swinging into 2/3 to 1

crystal flicker
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4th also exposed to much lower spot

placid bloom
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because the guy in rank 2 can only be beaten by me and 1 other person

jagged mesa
crystal flicker
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There's this one guy at C2 that I haven't been able to hit coz it'll be 25% deficit

wet crystal
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Ash, you just need Noah and you can attempt me i think

jagged mesa
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we might have to gem war it out buddy

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im jk i wont gem

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im poor

placid bloom
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no gem to spend for CA spot as f2p TimiProud

jagged mesa
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when i get strong enough you can do me a favour by fighting hime then i fight you

placid bloom
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gem better spent praying for Noah

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and RH

jagged mesa
wet crystal
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I fight hime then lose c1 in less than a minute lol, you have 20 seconds to attempt me

placid bloom
jagged mesa
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10 seconds of C1 > 0 seconds of c1

placid bloom
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tbh I am just praying my pilgrim mold today doesn't give me R/SR

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I will cry

jagged mesa
wet crystal
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Pilgrim molds are a scam

jagged mesa
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im praying for noah today

jagged mesa
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noah on 4sh, crown on ash

crystal flicker
grand plaza
jagged mesa
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btw, speaking of server numbers im totally cooked on this account

wet crystal
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I want scarlet Prayge otherwise I'll build rei t

placid bloom
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update to get Harran after failing 6 time clueless

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nice update clueless

jagged mesa
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wait you dont have scarlet?

wet crystal
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...yet

jagged mesa
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ok its a race, you for scarlet vs me for noah

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you getting mold today?

wet crystal
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Nope 29/50

jagged mesa
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ah ok

wet crystal
dusty hazel
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Someone tell that vinos guy to stop losing whenever i bet on him

jagged mesa
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im expecting only a blue today though

grand plaza
jagged mesa
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but honestly the chances of noah specifically is so damn low that i kinda already dont care about the rest

jagged mesa
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if it is noah though you already know im spam pinging you and hime instantly

wet crystal
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I base my pulls depending on how my dispatch rng goes

crystal flicker
jagged mesa
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oh speaking of dispatch, today i think i will unlock level 20 infrastructure core, so +1 dispatch

keen vapor
jagged mesa
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is that +1 regular roll?

crystal flicker
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You see that SR literally has same rate as SSR ShiftyDerp

keen vapor
wet crystal
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Did kr get it first then cn

placid bloom
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this is Korean game

crystal flicker
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CN first

jagged mesa
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tencent just runs their game differently

keen vapor
wet crystal
jagged mesa
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it's more of a tencent thing than it is a shiftup thing

crystal flicker
jagged mesa
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they are also like way behind the rest of the world, so.... who cares really

keen vapor
jagged mesa
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what even is their pilgrim pool right now

crystal flicker
keen vapor
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EVERY 2 YEARS whyyy

jagged mesa
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its kinda apples to oranges though, one pilgrim from the past year > their entire pilgrim pool

keen vapor
crystal flicker
placid bloom
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they can save their molds, just depends on how patient their playerbase is

jagged mesa
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nvm i changed my mind i want cn molds, 8.3% noah

jagged mesa
placid bloom
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Idk how well the game is ranking on their app stores

jagged mesa
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id rather have what we have than KNOW id be doing myself a favour by saving molds for 2 years

placid bloom
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compared to other games

crystal flicker
placid bloom
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cuz they have a lot of QoL but they also have a lot of changes that would make me not want to play TimiProud

jagged mesa
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isnt their story fundamentally different

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no thx

keen vapor
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Very minor QOLs

crystal flicker
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Different story isn't a reason to gatekeep QoLs

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They already got Exclusive Privaty skin

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And Alice skin as base

keen vapor
swift mango
crystal flicker
keen vapor
crystal flicker
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I ain't gonna date anyone with bodysuit

jagged mesa
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ok hold on, different molds is not a matter of QoL

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QoL is like... auto tower or whatever they have

crystal flicker
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5s loading

jagged mesa
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yeah that stuff ill take

keen vapor
crystal flicker
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I only wait for their SR frame and CA tbh

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It said that they got better frame

grand plaza
jagged mesa
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actually cn nikke might be fun for the different meta

swift mango
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They also have Union raid hard mode right out of the batch, meaning double cube upgrade speed right away. pepehmmm

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Gonna catch up with global in no time.

keen vapor
swift mango
swift mango
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I guess they reduced union raid difficulties for early server ofc...
1 week old server can already clear union raid day one with 10+ unions.

crystal flicker
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Or they just 🐳

swift mango
placid bloom
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you can spy on union ranking and see what the top player's sync and CP is pepehmmm

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see which monkey already spend to C7 Snow White TimiProud

jagged mesa
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im gonna try out cn nikke rn

placid bloom
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too much work to verify account

jagged mesa
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i literally just guessed my password, took 10 tries but i got it and got my wechat account back

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clutch

crystal flicker
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Or C7 Scarlet

jagged mesa
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im going in blind though, i cant read chinese lmao

crystal flicker
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Learn

placid bloom
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it's not that hard TimiProud

jagged mesa
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nvm they need full verification with chinese id it seems

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forget about it

swift mango
umbral crown
swift mango
placid bloom
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I guess they are bottlenecked by battle data still

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thought sync 200 was easier to get to but guess not

swift mango
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their current union raid is the same as global first UR.

still dawn
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I need a team for rookie arena

swift mango
quick lake
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oh wow. Union frames are nice

swift mango
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That's lots of SR 15 doll for your synch...

jagged mesa
swift mango
jagged mesa
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whats your synch

swift mango
grizzled bone
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Ill keep it in mind on the list of things to include with an expanded faq

quick lake
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Ppl not on discord will nvr know pvp things ig sadge

grizzled bone
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No one checks pins anyways KEKL

keen vapor
swift mango
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It's common knowledge if you come to here and got laughed at for doing that.

jagged mesa
jagged mesa
grizzled bone
swift mango
swift mango
jagged mesa
swift mango
keen vapor
jagged mesa
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thats still quite a head start on those of us around 260-270 synch

keen vapor
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If anything it had to be right on the next banner

swift mango
keen vapor
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Hmmmmmm

swift mango
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So summer event it is.

jagged mesa
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in any case i'd consider my account 1 luck to be pretty bad, and i think that other player's 11 SR15 and 2 SR5/R15 isnt too far ahead of mine

jagged mesa
swift mango
jagged mesa
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account 1: december 5 specifically, account 2: around 1-2 weeks after

swift mango
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You acc 2 is just super lucky

jagged mesa
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idunno but i just know that compared to other people in my pvp bracket and rankings, i was way behind on dolls

swift mango
quick lake
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Rerolling dispatch and using the right doll mats, make a big diff

jagged mesa
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yeah i rerolled everyday

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but alas, nothing can beat daddy rng

quick lake
swift mango
quick lake
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Rosy does not have 22sr15 CrustDerp

quick lake
swift mango
jagged mesa
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my 1 month old account was only 1 SR 15 behind my 6 month old account up until the end of drake pass

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rng hits diff

umbral crown
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December
X maiden banner

swift mango
jagged mesa
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wtf you started in ice dragon saga, same as me, and you ahve 22 SR15?

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oh i thought you were answering for yourself

quick lake
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no way rosy has that many sr15 SirenHuh

swift mango
umbral crown
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More than me?

jagged mesa
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nono nvm miscommunication

swift mango
quick lake
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20 is okay i think

swift mango
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Last I saw rosy said 21, now it's 20 after RH done. susge

quick lake
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I only have 14 KEKWut

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sr15s

swift mango
umbral crown
quick lake
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Rosy blocked

umbral crown
quick lake
swift mango
umbral crown
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All of them started from SR0

umbral crown
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To make some more

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Te goal is to go to CA with 5 teams max doll , making a whale impression when people check my teams

quick lake
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Rosy is a whale already CrownHUH

umbral crown
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Am i?

quick lake
dire root
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Lol rip

umbral crown
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Gem back

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Ou got the 300 gems from weekly missions, go go

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Enough to get C3 back

dire root
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Why would I do that?

umbral crown
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To send a message

midnight marsh
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Gems are temporary, psychic damage is forever pepegahand

umbral crown
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The boi who won against me in CA is already sending a message to anyone it seems

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Now i notice he is 432birbpunzelchrist

midnight marsh
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The profile message? rooDerp He has had that since forever (since at least S1 when I clicked on him I think. I remembered him because seeing a JP on our server is so rare)

umbral crown
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Maybe some wars in sp poggies

midnight marsh
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JP Whale . Not sure why he is on global think Imagine if he is an alt lol and he just spends on multiple accounts

umbral crown
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Checking all logs from CA, i found out my fight stall vs Stall was against him

midnight marsh
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@umbral crown Rosy what are the sync levels of your opponents in SP like? I'm starting to think top 4 is going to be rough for me soon ICANT I'm 390s, two are 410s, one is above 500(holy crap). My server group is in the 26000s. Isn't your competition potentially crazy with your sync level since your server group is earlier in the 19000s? pepegahand

umbral crown
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Usually PelG and RM trading for C4

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C1 got 461 boost and now is over 2.6m

midnight marsh
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Ah, so it's mostly quiet CrustDerp

umbral crown
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Yeah, weij knows me since wall days at 160, same as villian privaty. In Sp they have never tried since i got in this bracket

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Before i was gemming all the time

midnight marsh
umbral crown
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So its beem months since last time i gemmed, well against the C1 when i was in range

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But the gap in levels is too much

midnight marsh
umbral crown
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Like this for example, some months ago

midnight marsh
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My SP group is so toxic through gemming attacks and the craziest profile messages to the point where I don't dare put on an arena profile frame. The S3 CA runner up has been in my same SP group since we started playing and he is not someone to be messed with. pepegahand

umbral crown
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Waos, gemming hard i guess

midnight marsh
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His profile messages are wiiiiild

upper grove
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My SP reshuffle has someone with KR client who hits me 5mins after I hit him. When it's 4AM their time hmmz

umbral crown
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Bro early

midnight marsh
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I had to use Google translate to translate the CN but holy moly

glad meteor
upper grove
# umbral crown Bro early

Bro is not only early, I timed the hits this week and he is consistent, doesn't matter if it's 2 AM, 4 or later. He always hits back in 1 hour

umbral crown
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He checks sp more than i used to do

upper grove
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We gemmed each other for 1k already

swift mango
upper grove
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I don't even change my def because my pvp units are not all OL yet. He changed his 5-6x already

upper grove
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Bro is perma online KEKW

swift mango
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You won't even sure if he is actually living in Korea

upper grove
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Yeah I hit him during all times of the day already

swift mango
#

There is also script to automatically hit back with preset team...

upper grove
#

Weirdest about him is that guy not trying for rank 1

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Rank 1 is my union mate and I can hit him no problem if I want to

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Instead he never tried for that guy, only me SirenHuh

swift mango
upper grove
#

Number 1 guy has even less arena investment

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Literally cp pad. And not far enough to be unbeatable, I could beat him

swift mango
#

Rule 1 of hitting in SpA is that don't hit 2 guys at the same time

upper grove
#

I hit everyone in top 6 already just to test the waters KEKW

swift mango
#

U are just easier picking

upper grove
#

Splitting resources pain

upper grove
#

Made too many enemies hmmz

vapid lake
#

Its ok u're a whale u have infinite gems

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KEKW🫵

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Just gem them back

umbral crown
#

Yes

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Rosy method always work

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Gem to send a message

upper grove
umbral crown
#

You have some C7s

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You are the whale

upper grove
#

I know, I whale less for resources than my bracket does though pepehmmm

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Or rather, I don't whale for core dust and other daily/weekly/monthly stuff

swift mango
upper grove
#

Yep makes sense. I'm 20-30 lvls behind + I mainly spend for pulls and skins. Have 3 C7 including Alice but they have like all EVA c7 and all pilgrim banners hmmz can't and won't compete with them in the long term pepehmmm

unique mountain
#

J

upper grove
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F2p btw clueless

umbral crown
#

Feels no good been the one not 401 in my top 10

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Besides privaty boi of course

umbral crown
bleak shale
upper grove
vocal perch
#

Could someone help me with a SP arena set up for all teams? I want a set up that I can just set and forget and not think about too hard. Im willing to invest in Nikke for a team that is decent. I have every relevant Nikke minus Trina and a couple of exclusive ones. TY :)

limber patrol
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what difference does having charge speed on all pvp rl do?

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the burst gen calculators don't count on you having the enough charge speed right?

oak gale
#

CrownHUH so uh, third team for some reason have no burst I?

tropic summit
#

clip RL are generally interchangable

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just fit whatever burst is missing

oak gale
#

instead of bunny soda 💀

tropic summit
oak gale
tropic summit
#

the main difference is that you'll burst first

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as long as opponent doesn't have equal CS%

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2.5RL on same CS%, but you with slightly higher CS% = you burst slightly first, e.g. your B3 hits before theirs if both are instant

wind kelp
#

Well, managed to grab 10h of #1 spot, good enough. They're apparently sitting in the arena menu today, 'cause 4 minutes after i grabbed back #1, they already took it back, and changed their whole def lineup :p

shell hazel
tropic summit
wind kelp
limber patrol
whole pawn
#

any noahless def team for rookie arena?

tropic summit
tropic summit
shell hazel
#

Rosy is pvp MA now poggies

eager mountain
whole pawn
umbral crown
limber patrol
eager mountain
#

At least rosy shouldn’t be misinformation academy

bleak shale
umbral crown
whole pawn
#

MA have too sides, misinformation, or disappearance

tropic summit
umbral crown
#

like the avatar

bleak shale
whole pawn
#

ty

tropic summit
#

no problemo

tropic summit
tropic summit
#

plus he likes Helm and yuri, i'd say that earns enough trust already

shell hazel
#

just run grave and cindy in your CA comps you'll be fine, it's clearly a superior comp

shell hazel
#

cindy in p1 is a given

tropic summit
#

10/10

eager mountain
shell hazel
#

I'd laugh if someone got to CA finals running crow 😄

tropic summit
#

drastically increased odds of winning for the opponent

limber patrol
tropic summit
limber patrol
#

this is the tool I use but doesn't have charge speed option

tropic summit
shell hazel
#

like every chance to bring it up, never missed

upper grove
#

new def appeared:
drunklet siren rumani trina jackal 2RL
Noise Noah Sbs rapu biscuit 3RL
Thelm blanc redhood rosanna centi 3RL

what's the purpose of rosanna in team 3? she won't burst with RH being p3 . Just to dispel?CrustDerp
idk if my drunklet can nuke team 2 (10/7/10, trina 5/10/7), should I try to nuke team 3 instead even though she is dispelled?
I could just Noah team 1 or blanc team 2, what do you guys suggest pepehmmm

shell hazel
umbral crown
tropic summit
umbral crown
shell hazel
#

no shame allowed here, shame free space

upper grove
tropic summit
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he's trying to either make you sacc helmT and get RH indommed or just get helmT indommed

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either way you've several options

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T1 you need noise taunt priority else noah gets stunned
T2 you can scar jack on double or triple buff or you can stall with p1 defender taunter + biscuit
T3 you can scar jack on single buff

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another alternative is to run rosanna against T1, you'll delete scarlet and siren, they can't B3 anymore (jackal link broken at 1RL, you can then burst at 2RL B1 rosanna to 1hitko)

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yet another alterivate, 2RL with bay in p4 for T1 then noah 2RL either T2 or T3 (this also allows you to have scarlet and noah free)

upper grove
#

my rosanna is still unbuilt sadge

shell hazel
#

slacking

upper grove
#

solo raid units eating my upgrade mats TimiProud

upper grove
#

this is like defense number 6 or 7 I'm trying to beat KEKWut

tropic summit
#

just post your box

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we need to know what you can run

umbral crown
#

yeah, post it. we no good at guessing uwu

keen vapor
shell hazel
#

Rail I finally did it

keen vapor
tropic summit
keen vapor
tropic summit
shell hazel
#

yep 🙂

tropic summit
keen vapor
raven plover
upper grove
#

after biscuit is rumani, atm waiting for mats to upgrade both to base OL. SR5 on her as well

umbral crown
upper grove
#

noise 4.92%, noah 0 NoahCat

keen vapor
umbral crown
#

anchor?

keen vapor
#

Maid anchor

umbral crown
#

anchor maid?

tropic summit
keen vapor
umbral crown
#

nothing

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@polar echo weij running something interesting these days in SP? you can start figh him next season . i wonder why pelg does not go for him

umbral crown
keen vapor
umbral crown
umbral crown
keen vapor
#

Don't remember Angy

umbral crown
#

you should

tropic summit
upper grove
keen vapor
#

I'm already powering up Bay

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Btw Rail, I got absolute fail against Dirk this time

tropic summit
#

if it doesn't work we can try getting siren to taunt noah, but that's assuming opponent has noah taunt, we'll see it from the record

keen vapor
#

My Emilia not strong enough
Noah's surviving

tropic summit
keen vapor
#

Right ...

umbral crown
keen vapor
#

ChimeKisama why are you guys laughing

tropic summit
#

where's video

keen vapor
tropic summit
#

not even with vigor?

keen vapor
#

Nope

tropic summit
#

what have you done to your units whyyy

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@umbral crown tell him something

keen vapor
tropic summit
#

oh wait it's not even 62 anymore, it's 68 trolldespair

keen vapor
keen vapor
hollow lagoon
#

@shell hazel no wonder

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you are enriched instead of hungry

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and color changed

upper grove
shell hazel
wild hemlock
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How important is Attack% OL for Cindy? I have 4ele OL but only 1 Atk OL been debating rerolling her but idk if it matters

eager mountain
keen vapor
eager mountain
keen vapor
#

Levi when

wild hemlock
eager mountain
eager mountain
signal hull
#

Wow. I just saw some seriously bricked account:

keen vapor
#

I have 3 attack lines thumbsup I can tell that

wild hemlock
eager mountain
#

I wouldn’t prioritize Cindy 4 atk

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Other nuke needs it more then her

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But Cindy atk also benefit pve so

vapid lake
#

poggies i thought tibi quit nikke?!

eager mountain
#

Depends on ur priority

keen vapor
eager mountain
vapid lake
keen vapor
wild hemlock
# eager mountain But Cindy atk also benefit pve so

Yeah mainly if I decide to roll for Atk OL on Cindy I'll be dropping my CP by a lot cause I have like random black charge dmg lines and such that arn't actually that great but are great CP pad for hardmode and stuff so just weighing my options

eager mountain
eager mountain
wild hemlock
eager mountain
#

Spend some of my blue ticket, no anchor dup but got a few pilgrim dups

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Still have 400 left but no point spending…

vapid lake
keen vapor
pale knoll
wild hemlock
eager mountain
# wild hemlock lvl 446

Blk charge dmg isn’t that bad for pve, a regular cd is already better then 4th ammo or even 3rd ammo if other 2 ammo has high%
And u should be close (or already, if u malds hard) dealing with goddamn mc wall, so yeah, hard to get rid of that line

wild hemlock
eager mountain
#

Hard mirror container

wild hemlock
#

when is that ChimeCry

eager mountain
#

And after that there’s still behemoth that needs Cindy

wild hemlock
#

Lemme check how far I am

wild hemlock
#

I'm at 32-2 Hardmode but I've been lazy and could push more but haven't lately but don't think I get much farther than this for a bit

eager mountain
#

32-2 sounds like it for sync 446

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mc is 32 boss

wild hemlock
wild hemlock
keen vapor
eager mountain
keen vapor
eager mountain
wild hemlock
umbral crown
#

bro got 541 boost

wild hemlock
#

He's only 100 levels higher than me no big deal

eager mountain
#

501 is safe even without good elec cp ye, 481 usually requires invested elec lines

keen vapor
wild hemlock
umbral crown
#

its trony

wild hemlock
keen vapor
#

I don't even have 1 level saved

eager mountain
#

its up to u but i would get 461 before stacking again

wild hemlock
jagged mesa
#

@umbral belfry @wet crystal ITS TIME

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FOR NOAH TO COME HOME

umbral belfry
#

noah incoming trust

jagged mesa
#

is this noah

fringe garnet
#

Damn

quick lake
umbral belfry
#

honestly, not bad Hmmm

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but no it is not noah KEKW

jagged mesa
#

not noah but not R, ILL TAKE IT

fringe garnet
#

W take

umbral belfry
eager mountain
#

yall wont wanna see my 500 pilgrim mold pull...

umbral belfry
eager mountain
#

i used to think mfs being clown for stacking 500 pilgrim molds and now....

jagged mesa
#

i think i need to buy a noah spare body from mileage shop first for good luck

#

omg the jackal pull 2 days ago really got me over the hump

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thats a successful defense against all the risky ones

#

c3 is mine again

umbral belfry
#

clutch jackal

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the way both of them keep biting at your ankles 😭

wise horizon
#

Need help with this comp

jagged mesa
#

they could probably do it, but just losing an attempt helps me maintain c3

#

i refuse to invest unless its noah

umbral belfry
quick lake
crystal flicker
#

Wdym

wise horizon
crystal flicker
eager mountain
#

Any b3 works bis hard counters that

quick lake
crystal flicker
#

And Blanc is just counter Moran

quick lake
#

i didnt see the blanc sadge

jagged mesa
wise horizon
eager mountain
#

susge oh yeah that blank team is 4rl sbs still has few more shots to mess with after bis invuln

quick lake
crystal flicker
#

Wdym Tricky

quick lake
#

yeah, cp gap CrustDerp

eager mountain
#

susge add a Trina and she might still tank long enough for team to live… tho just snipe 4rl blanc

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And u don’t even need to snipe her

jagged mesa
eager mountain
#

Blanc is dead there to most setups

upper grove
#

what's rosanna skill investment? 7/10/10?

eager mountain
#

s2 depends on ur sacc team gen, best maxed if for ca sg sacc

upper grove
#

thanks! and OL wise, 4 atk, crit rate and what's the last one? ele not that useful, not many waters besides Helm and emilia afaik pepehmmm

crystal flicker
#

You clearly havent saw HelmT with Tempering

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Ele/CritDMG should be good

upper grove
#

gotta farm tetra gear again sadge

eager mountain
#

wants 1-2 ele, and lol thats 10 lines already with atk/cr dont think u want her 12 lines its too expensive imo

crystal flicker
#

ATK > Crit > Ele = CDMG

eager mountain
#

tho its more like... sniping both helm and scar against such team since her burst is nerfed there...

upper grove
#

12/12 rosanna is too expensive for me atm KEKW

#

I'll be pushed out by sync gap someday anyway sadge

crystal flicker
#

It's depend on your comp

eager mountain
#

i would say ele > cd

#

but atk crit is enough for most cases

crystal flicker
#

I highly recommend Sacc + Noir with her

upper grove
#

clip SG + passive atk buff right? pepehmmm

crystal flicker
#

ye

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Sometimes 1 sacc might not enough to nuke DPS

#

Noir here just to seal the kill w/o Crit

upper grove
#

sounds good thumbsup

quick lake
keen vapor
quick lake
#

I spent 50+ rocks on Rosanna alone pain

#

not fine sadge

raven plover
#

you guys have so much roks ChimeKisama

eager mountain
#

susge 150+ on helm now and nowhere close to 11 lines

eager mountain
raven plover
#

true sadge

eager mountain
#

tbh even for a character as strong as siren, 9 lines are more then enough to me

#

strong but not gamebreaking despite she literally does more dmg then my sbs (sbs has slight worse lines)

crystal flicker
#

9 Black lines sure more than enough

eager mountain
#

pepehmmm atk elem 1 ammo is enough for most cases... 3rd line gain is rather marginal and yet quite expensive

#

rerolling second line can end up getting a useful 3rd line for like one of the gears so its a nice spot to slot ammo/4th atk

hexed nexus
#

Hello! Does anyone know where to find that Google Sheet to calculate our comp Burst Gen?

I keep seeing someone posting it here but I couldn't find it on the pinned section

crystal flicker
#

Can also use nikke-deck.web.app

hexed nexus
crystal flicker
#

Locked to lv7

keen vapor
#

Not newbie friendly sad

crystal flicker
#

So theoritically my Rosa with 1 sacc and 45% ATK + Noir should be able to kill any dps w/o Crit and with Tempering lv7

hollow lagoon
quick lake
crystal flicker
#

Don't you think we should have DMG Taken Increase cube

quick lake
#

That’s too OP SurprisedAnneFace

crystal flicker
#

Tempering already too OP, we need something to fight it tho

quick lake
#

Devs dont care about pvp NoahCry

patent sail
#

Ok finally biscuit poggies

#

Now did she need any specific investment ??

eager mountain
#

plug and use type of nik, rare enough to see now

crystal flicker
#

Imagine Cindy with 9% dmg taken ShiftyDerp

eager mountain
#

pepehmmm how about increase dmg taken to self

#

sacc stonksusge

quick lake
keen vapor
#

That

crystal flicker
quick lake
#

That would be pretty interesting. Kills P5 nikke upon entering battle poggies

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Or some SR unit that self-destructs upon entering battle

#

Forces more ppl to build Rosanna

eager mountain
#

i mean... kill p2 nikke is the choice

#

here we go treasure crow kit

crystal flicker
swift mango
crystal flicker
#

It is

#

Attacker just that much

covert lintel
crystal flicker
#

Actually I forgot to delete +14.85% Def from Moran lol

livid marsh
crystal flicker
quick lake
eager mountain
livid marsh
quick lake
#

sweaty

eager mountain
#

pepehmmm then its worry free to upgrade any pvp cubes

mint swallow
#

Guys can please help making arena team for me

upper grove
keen vapor
#

I got time now pepehmmm

#

Oh right

umbral crown
#

Rail is always fast

umbral crown
quick lake
keen vapor
#

You should invest more (reroll their overloads) your weak units like Moran, Bay, Noah, etc sir

keen vapor
keen vapor
#

@wise horizon your Ein is more invested

Replace Summer Anis with her

wise horizon
keen vapor
wise horizon
keen vapor
wise horizon
keen vapor
#

Nope

#

So I'll get disappointed on that regard

wise horizon
#

Too bad but I guess it would cost more

keen vapor
keen vapor
raven plover
quick lake
#

Echo burnt

keen vapor
vague quartz
keen vapor
#

So, don't worry

#

@wise horizon swap only if your combat power doesn't plummets

Siren team should be fine though pepehmmm

swift mango
#

Bruh just did a co.op with a cheater mod APK ... 2 wipe 1 tentacle and she still alive ... Only died on the 3rd wipe...

keen vapor
wise horizon
wise horizon
#

She’s still used in PvP arena

swift mango
#

I think I might just make a new account to clear at 50% deficit with mod apk just to laugh @pale knoll

keen vapor
#

Seriously what's wrong with you AnisBruh

wise horizon
keen vapor
wise horizon
keen vapor
#

Right.... Uh.... No?

#

Need to check speed for team one

keen vapor
wise horizon
swift mango
#

Just counted and I have a grand total of 24sr5 and 14 sr15. pepehmmm

#

Apparently spending 150 gem a day to reroll dispatch on average only brought my below average luck to average. pepehmmm

quick lake
#

Seems like my account is bricked

swift mango
keen vapor
swift mango
keen vapor
wise horizon
swift mango
swift mango
#

tell me your saved kits if you wanted to

quick lake
#

i really dont think i did anything wrong SirenHuh

#

never hit sr14 either (maybe once) SirenHuh

umbral crown
#

i did a couple of times, rosanna, noise nd someone else i do not remember

swift mango
quick lake
#

SirenHuh happy for all you lucky people

swift mango
swift mango
quick lake
#

lemme count again

#

might not be updated

swift mango
#

And at least you have rock luck when I have none.

keen vapor
#

We're equal until I use some of my 350 blue kits

swift mango
keen vapor
swift mango
keen vapor
#

I have to pad you know

swift mango
keen vapor
quick lake
#

15 sr15 and 15 sr5 SirenHuh

keen vapor
swift mango
quick lake
keen vapor
umbral crown
#

imagine saving kits

keen vapor
quick lake
umbral crown
#

nah, you need to upgrade the units you have right now

keen vapor