#pvp-arena
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I mean it doesn't matter who got indom in this fight.
if sbs gets indom, helm still has a chance for payback

it only matters if a battery dies since thats a 2rl scarlet
2rl scar still lose to a faster 2rl Nuke
CS. 
no cs
You can have enough feed for jackal as well even without CS
Helm is naturally 4% faster than a RL.
@spiral onyx congrats 🎉
that cindy always clutch winning
ig he's got all black stat on her until her cp become 216k like that
Yea was pretty close
normally you would have won that
What was the matchup
Ah the copy pasta Midhara team... With this season result of this team I guess Prydwen should move her up a tier
@unique wagon
We have 2 champion with this exact Midhara team time season. Winning against 2rl Scar Trina to boot
Tf is mihara doing there
Not sure where the copy pasta is from and also Im sure Nekowork has been working with Snake
Both Midhara team won
The 2nd one is exactly what neko is using.
Ok it wasnt Nekowork
Or it wasnt Snake whatever
I checked
Oh it's just biscuit stall until scar in particular dies
Yes
And Midhara is the reason it work
So she deserves to move up to S tier because so
Ok he cooked it himself I rmb our conversation

The five teams are all my own ideas. Mihala's team needs very good equipment.

One side says Midhara the other Mihala
The peak of EN and JP
Not really. I have been experimenting with my Midhara recently only armour and arm OL. She kill Glass Cannon scar just fine.
Just need either Moran or Blanc stall
Eon, someone on other server scammed me and I lost another 6 hours of credits 
vinos lost again?
So ask if he copied you down to positioning.

yes
Why did I trust in that stranger
I knew it Nero Moran HelmTr was broken af
I was in vinos' bracket, that team matchup was kinda doomed
NOOO I lost my unlucky frame on the final stage 
@ vinos you're a disappointment 
i was surprised everyone was betting on vinos with that lineup
It looked pretty even but vinos had edge on t3 iirc
why did MA need help for cheering
Feeling lazy yesterday
vinos' t3 was basically a mirror
RNG 
Lemme open game to check what happened
Say no more.
Sr15 Nero and Moran lol...
That team needs EMT's equipment to be very good, and Biscuit, Lumani, and Blanc all need 4 to 8 filtered attributes . This way, you can defeat Scarlet, Moran, Roxanne, Cinderella, and even with "BLANC"
it was just which emilia hit first when blanc buff wore off
EMT?
Emilia
I don’t know why everyone picked me. Even I knew I was gonna lose that one
My friend played the same team as me this time, and he also won the third championship. His Mihala never lost this time.
Oh, Emilia-tan
Blanc wasn't even bursting here and a dead Midhara only counted her base stats... Not even OL line.

guy who won only advanced last time RNG arena indeed 😄
think my analysis came true in terms of who wins what as well #pvp-arena message
i think it was just people picking based on who had the fanciest frame
that's bc you had better frame, but I swear when I looked it over you had the edge
Not against that specific team
Mihala's OL is not important, what matters is the other four Nikke
It's flex competition? 
Note to self: the heal-oriented stall team is better than one that is a bit more attack oriented, and mihara emilia is susceptible to Siren if Mihara dies
ok I was expecting xmaiden burst and emi indom here
Of course, in the end I would like Mihala to have 4 attack to make her attack power higher than Emilia

Thats what Biscuit is for
This way the team will have fewer weaknesses.
xmaiden got killed before burst

Ofc
The other 4 isn't really important as well in that particular match... They won without even burst lol
The same strat was used by Keripo on Moran Biscuit
god, how did your nero lose to scar, but your scar also lose to nero 
Personally I just wanted vinos to win because he involuntarily avenged me by taking down secret

I hate rng arena
I was expecting 1 win each for those matchups, then tiebreaker with xmaiden burst emilia indom
I think the other party's charging speed is not fast enough.
bruh, your p1 scar died to lapt
Hence dupe dependent
Mine has 2 ele 
When both players are at a high level, Scarlet's burst will definitely be faster than Blanc's.
Hai 
scar being attacker side for you also meant helmt pressure
I won against core +6 scar team with just 0lb Midhara and Moran biscuited. 
I think the teams are carefully thoughtout. They are good and once again, do not Phase 3 your Viper.
that was a max doll scar too
This sucks lol
I do wonder how much ele boop got
I specifically max dolled scarlet so she could be tankier
without jackal there's always risk of scar dying unfortunately, esp with double pressure like that
But did you max out chest? 
It's not investment but RNG rejected you from hitting Scar with Midhara stack at the begin of the fight lol.
Mihala needs teammates to have higher attack power to better attack Scar
You didn't 
doubt it would have mattered
I don’t know if it would’ve made a difference anyway
You just need to be reborn with better luck. 
bad side position and risky team comp at the end of the day
if you were defending, probably fine since helmt wouldn't be hitting
Just my luck lol of course I lose finals twice
and t3 is just... suffering from success, emi and xmaiden did enough to kill their p1 xmaiden
Not only Scar, when Mihala meets Noise, Noah, Biscuit, and Cinderella, teammates also need better equipment
Well, against that team Midhara sacc won't work ofc... 
So much protection
noise should easily outstall single invuln or even double invuln
mihara can really only kill after full burst ends
before that noise basically negates the dot
@swift mango Mihara is already in A theres nothing to change
hmm still no triple or new double winner in bracket, interesting
Maybe S?
hell no
Although I believe Mana is slightly overrated
I felt like she was already overrated since release but Snake is the one handling tier list not me
mana is overrated yes, on paper great, but who actually uses her (except me next season)
honeslty I feel like half of CA is your cook and investment, and the other half is just....guessing what your team alignment is while they try to guess yours and it winds up boiling down to that poison drinking contest in the Princess Bride
Mana is the one that needs to be A.

And finally summer anis. I told him to put her at SS, not SSS.
sea people so noob
no one 3 win streak like other region
I think that's because they are more competitive

She sucks before champ was here I repeatedly told him she is more of a weight to include because everyone has her invested and both Snake and Gatrix disagreed
I was never a fan of sanis as def in pvp, or even atk (better options)
but now with trina and helmt, it becomes "high enough invest sanis team to live scar nuke" to "you lose lol"
Even in Champ she isn't higher tier than someone like Rossanna or even drake

when ppl can run 2rl trina + rh buffed scar, sanis has no chance no matter invest diff
back in the day when the main counter to sanis stall was scar/blanc/rh/centi/jackal, sanis had a chance if invest diff
I would use buffed RRH and Emilia more often on ATK if possible. SAnis sometimes loses for weird reasons or has some weird limitations, like you need Vigor if you wanna indom her, etc. She is a weight. Emilia does what she can do better.
In Moran biscuit Anis, it's Moran Biscuit the SSS one.
In Blanc ASS it's Blanc the SSS one. 
And SAnis into Scarlet at lower PvP invest is instant death wish.
even 2rl sanis noah/blanc no chance?
sanis does atk more reliably, but her dmg is suspect, emi runs into potential biscuit invuln on nuke, and rapipi into failing to 1 tap noah (if going that strat)
I can see how Scarlet and Emilia are dubbed PvP queens. They offer too much to ignore.
then you just 3rl blanc jackal and win
the only really viable sanis comp back then was the noise/noah/biscuit/sanis/rapu
Good Lord SAnis is not that
if your biscuit invuln rng was good, can win against emi nuke, if invested properly, can beat blanc rh scar
now? beaten by 2rl trina scar easily
I haven't had any Biscuit invulnerable problem ever since I pair her with MiranT. 
yeah I think that problem is primarily a dmg issue, extreme buffed emi should be ok
I think Scar and Emi are more important than others .
My special arena opponent list broke .... 
If moran has biscuit s2 before nuke lands. Emi will lose
meanwhile I've seen sanis simply fail to kill enemy team in time 
And not to mention shes not Clip SG + not instant B3 which makes her weird in SG team. Not only that she doesnt want max ammo so no Noir or treasured Drake or Sugar. Ok what else... Shes slow so pairing with Blanc is weird + need Vigor if you want to use Jackal cus of obvious reasons. She also feeds Scarlet and gets countered. Oh sure SR 15 CORE MAX might survive but thats very niche, and only against certain comps. And god she needs 2 buffers most of the time.
even in champ, her being supporter (interaction with biscuit) is what keeps her relevant
outside of moran biscuit sanis, there really isn't much reason to run sanis over other options
You mean Moran Solo whole team?
Indeed 
There is only one thing she does better, countering Helm stall cus shes Water but Moran and Nero taunts her.
Most Moran solo is after DpS of the opposite team already dead thou.
nero moran helmt team full stalls sanis yeah
And Rapu revives Helm back if shes dead lmao
Her damage is weak
Very weak. Shes only good as Electric buffer.
My half invested Emilia was more reliable
Well obviously cus shes clip RL I can go insano mode with more buffers ofc
most sanis run with 0-1 buffers, that's the problem with making her do good dmg
maybe you can do 2 buffers, but that's only as a specific attacking team
and at that point you just move to better options for atk
Yeah caught lacking by low burst gen + needing 2 buffers most of the time
Oneshot also prevents them from healing back ..
In which case Id just run RRH/Emilia if enemy has lots of Wind and Electric (im talking about Cindy comps).
There is no waterish comp so no place for SAnis.
elec is also pretty trash ele, so there's that too
@tropic summit your suggestion kills me :deadge: There's no way Emilia 0 limit break can get more HP than MLB Summer Anis
Specially on days like these
Yeah, double taunter is also an issue for SAnis tbh
Remove cube from ASS, upgrade Emi Armour. Emi put on vigor and math...
I noticed this when my SAnis with 1 buffer cant break through invested Noise Noah Cindy comp
Now add 1 more buffer the team is too slow and cant block
SUMMER ANIS CAN ONLY HAVE RESILIENCE 
Without that she directly doesn't works!
Noah X SAnis RH HelmTr is probably the only comp that is fast enough.
Maybe bring Crown to buff her so she doesn't need Resilience
At least HelmTr is a half buffer
She doesnt. She does shoot less though.
I mean in Moran comp, I think Tempering is still better
so she needs it
why make her mid dmg worse
Against glass Cannon maybe, again Noise+Noah she would be stall instead ..
wot
Literally Moran is the one carrying. She has to just survive I guess
Yeah, Moran carry....
ASS and XMaiden are just there to buff Moran. 
You're crazy 
The Mihara team NEKOWORK uses is just Moran team with lots of cut corners but enough to facilitate every possible scenario.
the only situation where tempering on moran there matters is to have better chance to live cindy nuke
Right what I want
It's Biscuit team actually... No Moran in there, you could use Moran but it's another case
Its the same principle as Moran Biscu team
And counters Scarlet the same way
the only way moran biscuit counters scar is with xmaiden clutch wdym
Not really since at least Moran can stall for a while and can kill. Blanc died instantly after biscuit ended and can't kill if Midhara didn't stack.
Blanc is needed to debuff enemy so Mihara can deal damage
Thats why uh it loses when she got stunned
You don't need Blanc to even burst.
Congratulations @umbral belfry 🎉!
She did though
She burst on who?
She doesnt give indom but it still triggers
The indom is not needed. Its the very small heals and damage taken.
Yeah she did burst
Hime is #pvp-arena champion.....
If u dont see Blanc's HP going up idk
It's 40% more dmg sure. But only for 1-2 stick before Biscuit effect ends
So yeah both teams function the same way against Scarlet. It's just against other teams Idk.
A difference but not that big
It is more reliable though since Mihara damages upon death and therefore the team doesnt just rely on active damagedealing
Oh you are deceived. You forgot to take account of cube and doll.

Did you come back?
that really doesn't affect it that much, should still be sub 50% dmg gain
Assume you have 30% damage reduc, that changes from 70% to 109%, which is more than 1.5× damage.
So you're Boop.....
that's higher than most will get, by a lot
It is big when we are literally talking about defeating someone with 5-10% HP left
And you know whats funny, we talked about this Midhara team on Prydwen
Just in another form
Yes we are L
most nikkes won't even reach 25% dr (max cube and doll)
Midhara has been used in CA for awhile. Just more popular this season for some reason.
Maybe some Jpn dude promoted her.
anyone had success with makima mihara comp? teammates prob sg or something, burst not needed
These 2 comps were obviously very rushed and function in a similar way. Get Mihara to die then stall. Well, since we were talking about how Moran Biscu and Blanc Biscu comps are similar, you know what it means.
that's the first time I've ever seen that moran team bruh
Rushed is the best definition. Also it was an overdone team against SG supposedly as Attacker.
I would, IF I HAD HER.

biscuit defender both ends already beats all sg teams for sanis variants
Also to show her role more presently. I don't think a team like Blanc Emilia Biscu Mihara Rumani would make sense to most people.
Please give us Chainsaw movie Collab and a rerun SU!!!
I promise I will bring Makima every CA!!!!
No
@vapid barn is over there
a good amount do run the og blanc/emi/rh/biscuit/centi setup, or at least used to, so that's a possible alternative

It's different because it can't really counter a strong Scar that wipes RH. Its just reliant on RH surviviving but its good enough for most people.
Maybe in the future though, who knows
Imagine people start bringing Ade and Mica to counter Midhara and Siren. 
Theres more to learn about PvP
The idea was still the same as back then. If possible, cut many corners as possible while making the teams still adequate to most meta comps.
Mica 
a lost cause anyway, once etheria restart drops, if I like it enough, I just start caring for that instead, pvp tc in nikke is quite pointless these days
or just play cn nikke
tencent prob gonna make a better champ arena
Eon leaving us as well? 
Losing Keripo is already bad enough
~~Then again, Eon scammed me 6 hours of credits
~~
lmao yuri blocked me for pointing out they keep typing in all caps all the time 😄
Laplace
your lapt

he's leaving? I thought he just won today?
I’m a LL fan
85.81%
total? is that including cube
My rhythm game ended service so I went all in on Nikke
My lap is weak 
Total will include base 10% 
hmm, then high invest lapt + extra dps still needed to punish p1 unlink scar
I only have 1 attack line though
So you will go all in any Anis alt 
Same even tho have not seen Liella 3rd season but sae everything before that, including lives at 4 am 
Do you do Buuu Buuu desu wa? 
what lvl cube was she using in ca
10
My resilience cube 
Yes
I was top10 using Dia cards
ok interesting, thx for the info

yeah high ele lapt gonna be another invest diff for nero moran comps, but if attacking, idk if gonna be enough still without helmt dmg
Then, can I become Champion? 
just waiting for iron xmaiden/emi
no you need to open wallet to get in first 

@umbral crown 
@tropic summit 

@umbral crown crit cindy doko 
What was the discussion? Did my lapt not kill someone that it should have?
I had my own spot last season, but now 3 ppl joined 
your nero moran team beat vinos's scar team bc helmt + lapt managed to kill p1 unlinked scar before scar could nuke
Ah yeah I was wondering if that was going to happen
which teams
Second ping
would it even matter, bay block
always making sure 
i know it was just copium 
rosy got outRNG'ed
3rl essentially unprotected cindy is.. interesting choice
yes 3rl bay is basically = unprotected, she's blocking nothing
You'll see, very few champions actually got MLB Emilia
That's semifinals though
yeah that match was a 50/50 but leaning my loss. sbs stunned but helm nuked link 
@umbral crown congratulations 🎉
Now post your teams 
thank u! you're next fellow artist 
now it's your turn
Oh, didn't realize it Rosy's Cindy faced MoraHelm back to back
I hope to do you proud next time. Working on the bench and roster for next time
I'll try, but I don't think it's yet. Need that Rumani you holding captive... hand her over 
@keen vapor do your best next season
@umbral belfry i've got a picture of you
Hime Champion 
nah, she's been promoted from Hime to Ojou-sama

make it Ojou-sama
deal
Ojou is actually lower than Hime...
Can someone help me make 3 teams for pvp

post your box sire
so many chefs here now you're lucky
the whole kitchen is full
damn 😄
I had the dapper buff 
Eon, cook 
oh god a video
I'm not cooking from vid 
I'm retired, I don't cook for the public
Leaves
yeah filthy muggles
Eon only cooks for wild cougars in your area
also too busy trying to hit 777 on minigame
Jou (queen) is above Hime (princess)
Ojou is just the daughter of a rich man.
Hime is the daughter of a king.
Ye
we need to upgrade to Jou-sama then
Im on mobile 🤤
is it time I graduate from the school of rail 
theres wild cougars in my area? 
where do i cook for them

pretty sure you graduated long time ago 
ikr
i've gotchu fam, now you can cook
rh
scarlet
siren
alice
rrh
helmt
naga
sbs
cindy
s.anis
liter
blanc
dkw
mw
noir
bsoda
rouge
ein
grave
rapu
mari
pmaid
emilia
moran
noise
jackal
centi
noah
anchor:IM
anis
in any case, thanks for teaching me about pvp when i was but a 🐣
Why Naga even .

Great teacher @tropic summit Railtracer 
hime then vs hime now 
And still could not win

He is great teacher, not great prize winner
flex B2 for desperate times
Should i send screenshots?

i already gave the list to @keen vapor , he's just escaping his duties as MA
@keen vapor the kitchen awaits

finished work + it's friday, good times
even better here, finished work + it's friday + 1 week paid leave
damn
i'm going to ensure to be as extra useless as possible
... swap?
You go cook
me not MA, me silly casual 
me brain no worky me on leave 😄
You are teacher of 2 CA champ
oh now that you mentioned it both hime and ura 
feels like a student is missing
@shell hazel 

it's not my fault Hime stole my Rumani 😦
my super secret weapon is building

HEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Let's see, Blanc team..... Why is Emilia so low 
Rail, he's underleveled isn't he?
i'll be honest with you, even more concerned noah is lower
@loud sonnet
ye he's bricked
Noah is normal....
Maybe I need to roll my Scarlet to 30 ammos. 
my whale is losing because he's running scarlet 30 ammo indom 
if he had ammo i'd actually be in trouble 
Why even indom when you pair her with Trina. 
you couldn't live with your mistake, where did that guide you?
Back to me
choices i guess
30 >>>>>> 20
chat can I win this? 
although scarlet indom is harder to deal with than scarlet trina

18% deficit scarlet mirror, you've better chances finding a dragon in your garage
how I'm supposed to get him in diamond 6 then
17% deficit. Probably no.
we both know the answer 
At least he has helm treasure, might skip Emilia building
You could Indom reiT and Scar Trina. 
i ran that in CA, guess what those 2 ended up facing
hurray...? 
@late wind do you accept to overload jackal, centi, Noah (maybe even Anis) despite you won't reach diamond 6?
2rl Noah+biscuit?
guess who win
helm

100% helmt
both of you, get out.
Easy win for helm for sure
lose the battle
, won the war 
@late wind Moran overload as well 
But is not your noah carryijg you
You teams sirrrrr you promised yesterday you would show 'em.

need a moment to build her up
she's ready send her in
but I maxed out all her skills 
But got a frame at least
Sustracer. 

.ok is this good for noah helmet 
Megumin isn't answering...
Better than nothing.

My teams are nothing special uwu
Get her to cs11% or 9% +Adjustant


Jackal 1055
Noah 1010x
Every little bit counted.
yeah everyone on the ranking had frames and flashy shit
in no way i'm putting that on, bunch of showoffs


But 3rl Scar Blanc and 3rl Cindy
@swift mango
3rl scar blanc is killing it anyway without some other protection/heal
and yeah I suppose 3rl cindy, but gl punching through that, most got noah biscuit
Will add nero team next season
That unprotected Noah though.
lots of hope and dreams
She never died
2RL noah
Always lived to burst
2RL SR15 noah dies to SGs or ele weak, rest may live
Because she didn't meet DrakeT I guess
She just died when multiple SGs but not at 1 RL
unfortunately got a drakeT against my noah last CA so i can agree 
RH is B2 is fine against sg
I trust my investments
She died at 2 and Red Hodd took over B2
Tonight gonna send you the video
Maybe


We almost had EN back to back winners in our bracket 
Yeah I mean Rosy this season and last season was EN too
at least it's not china again 
The single JP guy in our entire bracket won it this time hah
i like that guy status in fact
I wonder what he is doing in global haha. Seems pretty whale too. I think he has one of the highest synchros in top 64. He is 432. Meanwhile Rosy is only 377
You are a comedy
a whale telling you to use gems wisely is priceless
🍿
Sir if you arent doing that already Im glad u still survive in life
I mean same thing with gems same thing with money
i've spent 0 cents on any gacha game so far
I beat S1 champ in T32, he beat me S3 champ in T16, he then beat S2 champ in T8, and won S4.
not gonna support that, probably ever
Thats called reverse sunk cost fallacy
There is no motivation for you to stick 
and yet here we are
And here an uwu as usual
can leave anytime, can downgrade to casual or can just keep doing as i am, with no pressure
Uwu
the moment you start investing in gacha, you know you gonna have a loss down the road
I do realize that but its all games in general
ye the cost in other non gacha games is still time afterall
time that could've been spent becoming a doctor, saving lives or getting laid
clearly if done only one of the above
Doctor is some interesting choice as example
right i always wanted to ask you, you're a uni student right?
Graduated already
oh wowie
Why?
just curiosity
Computer science, infotech, the common field.
oh naruhodo makes sense
Not sure where that makes sense.
you gave those vibes in some topics we talked about in question chat
you seemed knowledgable in that field
I learn most things on my own.
a good decision
professors and classes aren't necessarely the best method to learn
in fact, some of them are pure waste of money
other than cp does it make much diff? 😄
Whats that
Help you more tanky and deal a bit more dmg
Previous ping....
Whats that
holy shit
old acc... is dead in terms of pvp
You don't even know what's an overloaded gear? 
OHHH
Yes....
@swift mango @worthy knoll
sorry for pinging
but here's the usual result if laplace don't get crit
moran getting to B1 will always gurantee soda stun noah and moran cuz attract I think
what did emilia die to before scar burst 
so emilia additional damage means more counter proc and each proc is like 1m damage cuz ele lines? 
so if scar can't crit laplace is healthy with like half hp left
so can't always counter with scar soda and gotta go tank vs tank route ig lol
usually I'm using rapunzel variant to win the stall fight
Just Nero, guaranteed to win in stall fights aside if both are Nero, may the best Nero wins 
something like this 
plz give nero treasure and I'll build her 
drake event rewards claimed and no more extra resources
back to starvation
laplace can't hit p3 like emilia when targeting p1 even with her max skill 1 level and stacks right?
This was pretty fun but I won't do it again 
Yes, it's similar to my LapT in my Moran Bay team, she even survived a crit.
What are the 3 best teams for pvp
scar soda will get stronger if we have clipRL that can provide something more than like centi ig
depends on the era or pvp server you are in whether you have meta collab nikkes too or not
best pvp team is enough sync for your enemy to do 1 damage when you have high enough cp gap
need help with a new SP arena defense team. getting beat a lot lately @tropic summit
@umbral belfry
gratz!
That's like asking what's the best move in rock paper scissors lol
best move is to rise middle finger.

Not whip out your c---?
Pretty similar.
Wao, I sweeped Don 5-0 
Oh there arent top 3 teams ?
Top teams are bigger rock, swords ⚔️ and.... Uh, infinite paper works
yeah that (whale CP padding)
Rock, paper, gun
ofc, Scarlet gun
If your rock is heavy enough, it will rip through paper
Finally got my Rank1 frame after 4 CA seasons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgRrTZ_mg-A
Here's replays of the final round of Champions Duel for Champion Arena S4. After four whole seasons, I finally get my Rank 1 frame, with a clean 5-0 sweep too!
- S4 Teams: https://youtu.be/rNnMUN-GjeY
- S4 League: https://youtu.be/r0lFfxTUUKw
- S4 Top 64: https://youtu.be/9IGxPr2hj24
- S4 Top 32: https://youtu.be/uzPqaBhGQyc
- S4 Top 16: https...
now I can copy those teams and be invincible
soda tech 
what rewards do we get for the baseball game because so far I had nothing? 😄
ah I found it the gift icon near the top

Fek
??
Alot of stuff.
A lot what
temporarily bricking my PvE came at the right cost 
now you're next
OK you can horribly break this baseball game with reaction boosts
this isn't paused, 7 reaction boost + 4 permanent reaction boost and that is how slow the bar moves 😄
@late wind
Siren/Blanc/Scarlet/Centi/Jackal
Noise/Rapunzel/Scarlet Black Shadow/Helm/Noah
I'd say last team auto
round two @keen vapor hopefully i win this time
my mistakes haunting me
its ok. it happens. i sometimes make stupid mistakes
Anchor so cute 
@keen vapor
by the way, im making a new SP Arena team.
Noah/Biscuit/Emilia/RH/SBS
Jackal/Scarlet/XMaiden/Blanc/Rumani
Noise/Centi/Cinderella/HelmT/LaplaceT
can you think of a better team?
Jack scar maiden is very popular these days 
Hmmmmmm
Any thoughts on how to beat this team?

can someone tell this guy to use a 2RL team?
i've told him for the past 2-3 days but maybe the message just doesn't deliver
@tropic summit how many gems you saved up for collab?
probably not enough, but i'll be spending the bare minimun and skip as many as possible
Sorry i didn’t see your messages the other day, if you have a team comp in mind I am open to suggestions
I had 16k but lost to teptations and opened a ordinary pull,now i have 14k and T laplace
i cant save
I fr cant save any pulls,i always pull for hoping its modernia and my gem cant go pass 16k
looking for waifus over meta
respectable 
Thanks,i wait her since over 400 day
maybe one day
Heyo! Is this a good Rookie Arena comp? Should I replace Litter with Centi here?
it's good enough, well buffed scar nuke on 2RL with p1 and p5 linked
centi would be overcommiting as you can't push past 2RL
unless you've opponent feeding you, then you could be between 1.5RL and 1.9RL
on rookie that should be unlikely, unless opponent has a deathwish ofc
I see. I also saw the optimal fast nuke comp with
Scarlet-Laplace-Trina-Helm-Jackal
How does this one work? They have 3 RL here no?
@tropic summit btw i need defense teams for arena again
that's still 2RL, even assuming laplace is or isn't treasured
How can you tell when you're inbetween RL speeds and can make actual use of the extra speed? E.g. 1.6RL over 2RL speed, or 2.3RL over 2.5RL speed
feed
or silly things like cindy in p1
then you can multiply standard gen for 1.75x
(for RL units only)
I mean, for example, can you ever be faster than a 2.5RL with an allegedly 2.3RL team? No feed, no cindy
yeah that's helm on 17% CS
Or is it just wasted extra burst gen?
can lead to enough CS to pull off B2 before enemy 2RL is on B3
Aha
works wonders on teams that want to clutch with blanc
with RL and high CS enough, you can aim for 1.9RL or 2.4RL
with feed involved, things like 1.5RL or 2.2RL and the likes are achievable
that's especially likely when multiple SGs or MGs are involved
General rule of thumb then is that 2.5RL teams with 17% CS unit/s can b2 before 2RL can b3?
yeah that'd be a huge advantage
especially for DR based teams
nero moran
moran helmT
bay
...
etc
Noah party invul applies at b2 time or is there a delay?
Yea I wanna build bay and nero next, but after collab
there's a slight delay just like with blanc
on a general rule of thumb, 2RL scarlet bypasses 2.5RL noah
now if that noah team, although, has a very good amount of CS%, it might lead to noah to still B2 right when scarlet B3 happens
realistically, 2.5RL teams objective is to get their DR or HP UP B1 going to facetank nuke
generally being moran or noise
the other approach is to have at least rosanna going off, potentially denying enemy B3 by killing them right off
Bay is the easy one
having a 2.5RL team that has enough CS% to pull of a B2 like bay, blanc or noah in time, though, now that's pain
Crab 
I'm still somewhat clueless bout PVP but shouldn't Fast-nuke comp out speed your typical Noah comp?
I kept losing to Noah even with my current Scarlet/Trina/Jackal comp somehow
Noah is as fast as clip SGs sir
So I just don't win against them with Scarlet?
No
2RL noah needs to be dealt with non single nuke comps
because that's exactly what she counters
Noah vs Scarlet is a daily constant on PVP
prefer indom DPS (SBS, s.anis) or delay-nuke (emilia)
I heard this in plankton's voice
to be fair at first i thought he typed "Crap"
Hmm..does Scarlet/Rosanna work against Noah? Rosanna can also deal some damage yea?
Green being for the emote didn't help 
We need full team sir, don't make us play Battleship blind
such beauties 
could someone help me put together 3 pvp teams for arena whenever yall got some time? I've been using a couple but I've got some rly good investment into my pve teams now so im ready to invest into pvp.
yea yea 
she's probably next
I might add her to my wishlist though, only got the base copy
She really doesn't need more dupes
Cover HP is level dependant (well, doll affects it too but....)
Dupes will only give CP padding and wallpaper
siren naga cind helm rumani
scarlet blacn rh xmaiden
crown biscuit sbs rrh trina
get noise and centi in synchro and build them
wishlist noah
get your teams reviewed once noise and centi are built
thank you <3
should i not use Trina with regular scarlet?
They have a point 
why do you complain why i don't use blanc but you complain also when i use her, make up your mind 
INSTEAD OF MAIDEN
BAKA
reason is to balance speed for 3rd team, once you've centi build up 3rd team can be fixed, trina rotate and blanc rotated
it screws up indom
i understand, thanks
also how are you gonna make 3rd team faster without trina
you wanna use anis and tank CP?
4RL is already too slow copium 
Just press auto and hope for the best 
Isn't that right @umbral crown ?
which units should i focus building, as in maxing skills? Should it always be the burst 3s, or is leveling up the skills on characters like Biscuit rly good too?
ik u said centi and noise but besides those 2
DPS units
does bay need any lines? or just 17% CS at most and call it a day?
No, you don't max skills for those two
I just 4/4/4, padded overload and called it a day 
Oi, you make it sound as if Blanc should be 7/7/7 
he said to invest into, could be just rerolling rocks or doll
"as in, maxing skills"
the burst although should be invested well past lvl 4 for blanc
the extra shred is very welcome
Burst yes
but not skill 1&2
m'am you seem to be on your period today
Max skill is 10/10/10 
You're set 
Siren is DPS btw
-# Sincerely, someone who left Siren as 10/10/7

i see, so 10/10/10 for pvp?
I thought you were the bay loyalist
can someone help me with SP arena team defense?
Nope but was a good experience to improve cooking skills and get it next time
Yeah, my 4rd team in CA was 4 RL and won many fights

You should be able to win fights against everyone in our bracket except william and rain

He has cooking issues
my noah is still undercook
at least I wanna beat this since we was once equally strong, but now... 
need more core dust
running SR Anis is going to brick your CP unless you really built her lol
I could invest her burst more in the future 
anyone know what I can use against this in rookie?
Go sr15
Cook, im in class
Merry did @HungryHippos

can I win this?
I'm thinking.... Siren, Scarlet, Trina, Centi, Jackal
Well, as long as Trina doesn't has more attack than Siren
Do you trust siren to stun 2rl b2?

Depends on CS
did some testing, this seems to work
A 

Then give me CS 
It's barely 2rl. So I don't trust them to have the CS for all RL.
Give me scar
So you have Brick Scarlet as well 
i wish i had a scarlet to brick
His scarlet got stuned. It was HelmT who burst.
I can't give you
but I can give you : 🧱
Your Siren has less attack than Trina?!
Then I'll be Commodore64 

Where did that smug expression come from
Feels familiar
nope, siren has more
Might not get out of league
Why you didn't followed clear instructions 


whats good counter to Scarlet/Blanc/Rosanna/HelmT/Jackal and Scarlet/Blanc/RH/HelmT/Jackal?
Noah/Biscuit/HelmT/SBS/Centi would do the trick
What are some counters to a formation like this? It has no Noah, so is it susceptible to a scar or helm+ nuke?
Yes...
Just be sure you're able to survive
@keen vapor something like this?
Survive I said
seriously what's this Helm vs helm thing
Looks good use centi instead of helm c'mon.... Wait, Trina is better
In this situation (Cindy P1) the more RL units you have the better
I see, so just use Trina or Centi for the thier RL in this case even though Noah will be the B2?
Yes
Why use RL on cindy P1 btw?
Congratz for my ex-enemy to win CA S4
Imma beat yo ass next time
Cindy's decoy causes a target skip to the next position, so units that can splash will generate more burst energy
It also adds an extra target so
The more RLs it becomes easier to hit the elusive 1RL speed
Snipers can't splash
we don't talk about Nihilister
Ohhhh, damn that's good to know. So that's why she is best utilized in P3 rather then 1 or 2.
Yep, Cindy P1 is the worst mistake of newbies 
That's good info, I've ran mine in P3 but only because I was told to. Never asked why. Good info there. Ty.
@grizzled bone what you think, is this FAQ material? how are you
It's rather common mistakes
I think it's worthy to add 


Ask Caishen how is he
It should be MA2MA Conversation
Who should I put Quantum Cube on in this comp? (Rookie Arena)
I have 4 slots and already used one for Helm.
Hmm did SP Arena get reshuffled or something?
Been seeing new names in the Top 50 I've never seen before, and some guy named Jojo that used to harass me for my spot completely disappeared from Top 30, and not even within Top 60 anymore. Maybe he was cheating or something... but based on close we were on Sync Level and based on his Team Comp... I always thought he just counter-played my team.
Wondering for some confirmation if some same-server yet separate brackets have been merged, re-shuffled, etc.
yes.
Explains all the new names. I still recognize about half the names in all of Top 50-60. Top 20 seems pretty consistent with what I saw before the reshuffle.
Thanks for the confirmation.
747 @keen vapor
tomorrow I'll slap her in synchro
was pretty lucky with the blue doll mats
commitment
any team suggestions with her? gotta remake my 3 teams
I think so, try and check
Bay is budget Noah, minus the gen
How does Alice survive Cindy's burst? 🤔
They are 4RL, I'm 2RL, surely Noah's invulnerability doesn't have time to kick in?
Are you sure they're 4RL
huh??/
i am ded
then who is talking
u got unlucky, Alice managed to pierce cover + Nikke, generating more burst than normal
in this case, enough to inch it towards 3RL
PvP is a cursed gamemode.
Is Trina really the better B2 for Scarlet-Jackal comp? I feel like Blanc with her Indomitable skill is too important to lose
Personally, I feel like the enemy should be dead after Scarlet bursts, and Trina helps make that happen better than Blanc.
Sure, you can hope you get them in the next 10 seconds while Blanc's burst lasts, but everyone else is probably dead and it's just Scarlet basic attacking them, and it might not be enough.
But that's just my guess.
I can't say I haven't had the same idea as you.
Hmm my previous thought was that Blanc at least give my comp a fighting chance against Noah right? since Scarlet usually get the Indom buff, but you're prob right...Scarlet alone prob isn't enough to win anyway
Yeah, if you get blocked by Noah you're probably dead either way.
True
This *****...
I didn't take my position back for a whole day, and then he takes it in 15 minutes.
But also, how slow is Cinderella?
It takes like, what 1.2s for the next RL to hit. It's like 0.5s between burst stages, so it takes more than 0.7s for Cinderella's burst to hit?
need replay vid to know exactly what's going on
but basically your Cindy not strong/unlucky enough to unable to wipe the whole team (cuz all of her atks are random) at 3.16RL , just killed Noise Rapunzel. Then Noah effect kicks in at 3.82RL, blocking all of remaning Cindy hit
possibly yeah. Cindy’s burst is really slow
A
These teams still good for defense, or have we gotten some better units recently to replace someone?
looks good
A corpse
Feel like a slap on the face I guess. 
Chat feel death after CA is over.
CA was over before it started 
Hey guys
I need a new team for arena pls
screenshot you box then someone will help you
Box?
anyone can recommend a comp against this? got all chars upgraded
2rl Emi+Blanc+RH+HelmT+Jackal (Emi need link)
Scar soda Trina 2rl
B soda?
my emilia died too fast for this to work
Or just do
Noah+Biscuit+Emi+RH+HelmT
oh this worked well thanks!!
they all are more advanced than me... how did I end up being that far 😭
they all have their 160 walls broken. other s hit is on their side
invest more on your pvp units and have a good knowledge of pvp thingamajigs
if youre around high diamond you may actually can compete in challenger rank

is there a reason
tbh just a few, rewards and champion arena qualifier.
not that important
blame Michel for taking your rank @loud sonnet I just did what I had to do 
did you lock 1+2 and reroll 3?
reroll 1st
well, that happened.
My account also allergic to ATK.
Feels odd nobody attacks me
my account likes hit rate and charge speed/dmg on mg
@umbral belfry a bit late but congrats on the CA win! just so you know i backed you every cheer
i think that means you cant attack me in rookie today
Hime got win? Nice
hime the homie
Man I wanna win too
i just want the losing all cheers frame
but apparently im no good at predicting, so next time im actually going to ask for help here
Lel I want nothing to do with that frame 
Nah man I don’t want no unlucky jinx frame bricking my account
hime won CA only after getting her silver cheer frame, just saying
seems to me like it wards off the bad luck
you changed your name even though you said that's if you win
DISQUALIFIED
He alone , yaps through heaven and earth
the point is that i give zero shit about winning or not because i will change my name regardless
i had to cheer for hime though, hime is from my rookie & spa bracket
that ones for the home team
makes me feel less bad when im losing in rookie and spa to someone that won CA
LMAOOO thanks ash
I won't attack you for a few days 
I would 
that aside, only noah is left !!!!!
soon

me i just get surrounded with
noah and rouge for tetra tower / cindy comps, and i dont want any other units and i can stop insta-sending my standard tickets
literal psychopaths and morons in my bracket
and then i have people like khiren
which is pretty chill because we had agreements
others not so much
who's in your bracket?
whales, whales, psychopath, mouth breathers, whales, whales, whales, and whales
my other account has a pretty competitive bracket actually
since i am not who i was 5 years ago
after the shuffle literally the entire top 1-7 are bouncing around every other hour
i would be saying shits like "i want to break their spines and spinning their broken body like a fidget spinner"
since that account still doesnt have an electric unit/crown to beat MC, its hardstuck and im about to just full invest in pvp
but now i have perfect monk mental so i will simply just wish them a pleasant retrograde ejaculation instead
@umbral belfry are you starting to level pvp cubes yet or nah
my quantum is at 6 rn but that's about it. unsure if I wanna go for tempering 7 rn or resi/bastion to 11
wait... how are your cubes so leveled
is your union juiced
all i have is resil 8, bastion 7, rest are 3/4 from solo raid and lost sector
my union is a day 2 normal clear group
we're just plat 
resi and bast is 8, quantum is 6
I think everything else is below?
7 I mean not 8
oh i know why nvm, i missed out on the first union raid when i started playing

Damn. I REALLY need new union :/
i totally forgot about that, now im going to feel bad about it
any idea how to defeat this team?
2RL scar, be aware of stun
FUN AND ENGAGING PVP EXPERIENCE
TWO UNWINNABLE MATCHUP (they are 100 syncs above me)
holy crap yeah whats going on with that #1 synch level
PSYCHOPATH MORON DYSLEXIC AT TOP 5
THE REST IS WHALES FORCING ME TO USE CD AND EXP CASES EVERYDAY TO PUSH LEVELS JUST SO I DO NOT STAY BEHIND

Hehe. That's how other lowbies in my bracket probably feel about me :^)
the top 1 subhuman literally paid his way to that sync
whats their synch level and whats yours?
This works because ur Scar has little/no ammo. If u roll ammo on Scar, this set up might not work anymore fyi
WHAT.
Should I reroll my Scar's ammo lines??








