pvp-arena

[atomic wolf]

CA is so horse shit man

[shell hazel]

if I'm not in the running I will just vote with the majority as it's time saving lol

[hollow lagoon]

Eah ca is just, rng

[shell hazel]

if I am I will vote for or against myself for the two frames depending which I need

[wise horizon]

thanks

[hollow lagoon]

I guess I’ll go back to my previous team set

[wise horizon]

rare to encounter milkT in arena. think im fine for T2 but T1, indom vs indom. im not so sure about

[atomic wolf]

@smoky snow HOLY SHIT

BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG but also hime is dead

[signal hull]

Nobody expects a Spanish Inq... Err... A MilkT!

[hollow lagoon]

Xmica investment is dead tho

[fresh moss]

i did yes

[smoky snow]

[atomic wolf]

its so funny like

he throws money into this game that much

[shell hazel]

np should be easy to use, the T9M/OL column is colour coded based on the text. Leave blank for none.
for skills leave blank for 1/1/1 otherwise those are colour scaled.
colours on dolls I use are just manual ones, can copy format or copy the cells

[atomic wolf]

and now he's being bagged by me in sp arena, and he was never EVER getting out of top 64 in the first place

absolute mental dmg

[mighty haven]

Time for me to die, yippie kie yay

[smoky snow]

The irony was very strong, seeing myself get put up against him after escaping that group LOL

That was the most I've cared about CA at this point

[atomic wolf]

i didn't even know you were grouped up with that schizophrenic bastard

good thing you win because holy moly i checked

it's not even close for him even if its 3w2l for you

[hollow lagoon]

Feel like I should retire my Moran team stall feels kinda meh

[atomic wolf]

i can't make it out of top16 though but i'm good

[smoky snow]

So much of CA is decided by team order, and I just kinda yolo that

[atomic wolf]

i locked in and i did what icould with my limited resources

[umbral belfry]

it's in my favor. khiren's mistake was not putting linked in p1 or p2

[atomic wolf]

i have to check

[umbral belfry]

helmt won't give enough feed for 2.5 or 2 rl

[smoky snow]

I don't even know what linked means

[umbral belfry]

and link is nuked

[umbral belfry]

jackal links highest 2 attack (in your case ein and helm). when links are hit, they gain extra burst gen

[smoky snow]

Ahhhhh

[atomic wolf]

yeah khiren lost

[smoky snow]

I knew the mechanic but not the lingo

[umbral belfry]

but because your put your 2 links in p3 and p4, they won't get hit. only jackal will be hit by helm and she barely, if any, gives feed

[atomic wolf]

actually you want to see the funniest shit ever

[smoky snow]

I don't care about CA though, so congrats in advance

Maybe I'll try to remember that for next~

[atomic wolf]

damn, well at least you got a comfy SPa

[umbral belfry]

I just wanted to get out of top 32

[atomic wolf]

yeah i can get out of top 32 that's for sure

[smoky snow]

Now you will!

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal I won't let your sacrifice be in vain

[signal hull]

Yeeaahh! Somehow I won! Woo! Top 32 for the first time. Or.. Whatever is after 64.

[atomic wolf]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[signal hull]

But how did I win this is beyond me. I was sure Blanc would shield Scarlet and I'm done for.

[hollow lagoon]

Now my helm is 10/10/10

[atomic wolf]

and my personal favourite

[atomic wolf]

watch replay

[atomic wolf]

this is lowkey hidden tech

[signal hull]

Oh this must've hurt.
Losing to Anis and Blanc.

[atomic wolf]

i realized why now, biscuit had a 12% atk line

UNIRONICALLY best thelm counter evesr

[final wedge]

This is bs....my Nero Moran in upcoming battle either gonna meet blanc or scarlet....or worst scar blanc team....this is so rigged

[signal hull]

I'm too scared to look at my next one.

[shell hazel]

as she should be

[hollow lagoon]

Only my 2nd 10/10/10

Rapi hood is still 9/9/9

[shell hazel]

Cindy p1 😄

[shell hazel]

I was doing a lot of the daily crates to skill books for a while btw - not really worth it anymore tbh

doing core dust crates instead

now that the skill books are better on the dailies and such

[hollow lagoon]

My skills are spread over many units

[atomic wolf]

why am i not surprised

[shell hazel]

man 5-0 and 75% of the votes the other way 😮

am OK with crashing out but hopefully it's never 5-0!

[hollow lagoon]

Rough

[atomic wolf]

they are voting based on rank

so it doesn't matter these people do not look at the team comp at all

[shell hazel]

no I don't either unless it's for my own, I'll just follow the crowd even if it's wrong 😄

saves me time then, and I may or may not get some credits

[atomic wolf]

i think its winnable

[wise horizon]

How’s it holding for you?

[fresh moss]

i just got into challenger 10 (never went past diamond 3) so testing will pretty much start now lol

[wise horizon]

Thanks. Looks simple and easy to understand

[jolly maple]

how to fight

[wise horizon]

Let us know later if there’s adjustment needed

[wet crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-unclephuc-mha-my-hero-academia-all-might-gif-9745763489067602529

[lunar pawn]

oh boy

[worthy knoll]

I.. entered CA running a bricked Blanc linked

[raven plover]

I feel like you gonna get cp gapped you need like 1.1m cp can change rumani to jack

[lunar pawn]

darius vs darius, who will win

[raven plover]

wtf main vs alt?

right has final CA frame if its 1 person maybe he gonna set the teams to make the right one win

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-26422772

[jolly maple]

won with noah biscuit emilia rh helmt
can't beat the other team still within penalty

[clear folio]

ur team counters me lol, gz in adv 😆

[umbral belfry]

assuming we even meet

[clear folio]

i hope not lmao

[umbral belfry]

the moment I get out of top 32 I

[umbral crown]

[atomic wolf]

Imagine if I meet you lmao @umbral belfry

(I'd fold)

[umbral belfry]

lemme go see our matchups actually

[atomic wolf]

No noise is my biggest weakness right now because it allows me to play 4 aggressive teams properly

[umbral belfry]

oof those matcbups are not in your favor

minus t4

t2 there's a possibility if your scar has more atk than rh

[swift mango]

Mirror but move Emi p1, provided she is linked

[covert lintel]

Cheater @raven plover

[swift mango]

What? 🤔

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/gülmek-komik-gif-12950352696137374051

[coarse solstice]

So wasteful

[fiery parcel]

@swift mango congrats

[mighty haven]

falil

[chilly furnace]

I forgot 4 max

Nvm hobo dead.. maybe later

[covert lintel]

@karmic smelt congrats

[karmic smelt]

Yo thanks gratz to you as well rakuen

[swift mango]

Thanks.

[covert lintel]

Suddenly so many of your union advance

[forest oar]

how would u deal w/ this team? Blanc’s indom is a pita to deal with

[karmic smelt]

It’s all luck in getting the correct lineups lol, I honestly don’t know if I can win the next one

[keen vapor]

He's gemming

@clear vessel you can hit now

[covert lintel]

It's fine, you got an union match after all

You must bring down @raven plover to win

[karmic smelt]

Very true

I’m hoping to rely on someone like Fahrenheit to bring him down like last season

[raven plover]

I lost next match

[worthy knoll]

Imagine if I somehow miraculously win my next match coz of a bricked Jackal Blanc link

[torn obsidian]

it's okay im bringing down hobo

[keen vapor]

I use Scarlet Black, Blanc, Rumani, Centi, Jackal against his Cindy team

[raven plover]

congrats boss

[umbral belfry]

@clear folio the good news for you is we might not even fight bc most likely I'll be fighting @coarse solstice and I'm not 100% sure I'll win that fight too many variables involved

[keen vapor]

Using normal Scarlet was my mistake

[raven plover]

whats the team

[umbral belfry]

so maybe you dodge me

[atomic wolf]

remember to vote for me

[raven plover]

[swift mango]

Gem back... Now is your chance to hit CA.

[worthy knoll]

My team is the Defending one in the vid. See how bricked that team is

My opponent now is defending Rosanna SG

[atomic wolf]

i encourage good practice like scamming people online

[keen vapor]

This also tells me that Scarlet Indom on my def is bad idea

[covert lintel]

You'll win 3 again

[keen vapor]

But maybe Malogro wants to use his attempts already (?

[raven plover]

sanis not linked?

[atomic wolf]

scarlet indom in 2028

[torn obsidian]

it's gonna be a coin flip i think

[raven plover]

nah ngmi

[keen vapor]

I'm not a kisama

[chilly furnace]

Oh u alive.. just wanna say snake team was losing to rng

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293

[worthy knoll]

Enemy one's? She's link but prolly higher max hp

[keen vapor]

How dare you

[swift mango]

Pick c2, C3 or C4 and try to stalk their log in and hit them.

[raven plover]

oh my bad I misread its ok you gonna win trust

[atomic wolf]

i don't have any respect for non-glass cannon scarlet build

[swift mango]

You gonna win trust

[raven plover]

better luck next time

[keen vapor]

Both C2 and C3 can defeat me, C4 is Malogro

[swift mango]

[clear vessel]

Whabam

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/mets-baseball-homerun-gif-12571819431418851501

[worthy knoll]

Nah, more likely my opponent wins unless some miracle happens again like last time's final.

[swift mango]

That's why you need to stalk them and hit them when they offline

[swift mango]

Okay, better luck next time.

[clear vessel]

@keen vapor do you want to take C3 back? I don't mind either way

[keen vapor]

I did C3 logged on an extra time this time

[umbral belfry]

echo CA enroute?

[swift mango]

If on PC you can use script notify you when you got attacked and even auto hit back with preset team...

[keen vapor]

Well, I used my 2 attempts I still have 3 chips ofc

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

[covert lintel]

Finally my sg comp shine next match

[swift mango]

Are you ATK or DEF?

[keen vapor]

I don't PC
I'm mobile and you know it

[covert lintel]

I'm in the right so def

[swift mango]

I know.

[keen vapor]

That's free win regardless of comp

[keen vapor]

What I need is to setup a new trap on my def

[swift mango]

Then you probably win ... You may got stuck in Cindy if you attack but not this case.

[swift mango]

What you needs is to use your gem.

[clear vessel]

@keen vapor abathur forgot to take their rewards so you should be fine to just wait for next refresh today.

[swift mango]

Reward? Those points are auto collected...

[keen vapor]

Probably

[clear vessel]

Until 10k, no? After that anything you don't collect don't get wasted?

[swift mango]

You could offline for 2 week in SpA c1 and you will still get to CA

[covert lintel]

But the other 4 may lose

[keen vapor]

That's for arena tickets, not Red tokens
You can receive an unlimited amount of red tokens

[clear vessel]

Oh, didn't know that. Dang.

[swift mango]

Case in point one of my CA guy offline for 1 month already and still got to CA.

[clear vessel]

Sadge. Let me know if you need me to adjust Def so you can take c3 today @keen vapor

[umbral crown]

Even if they can, just hit them back

[swift mango]

Yeah, can't get to CA as 🧱 without spending gem. Even Zirk had to asked for help and gem it as 🧱 to get to CA in the first season

[swift mango]

Do you still have 1 hit left?

[keen vapor]

Ok ok, I'll get 441

[swift mango]

Could get Echo to hit you down then you hit that guy down to C5.

You 2 could team up to get that guy permanent p5 forever too.

[pure moss]

damn I lost at 64 again

[umbral crown]

But do some investment

[pure moss]

already done cooking so I can rank higher next time

[umbral crown]

Top 64 wall is real

[keen vapor]

Look at my Liter lines

Phase 14 ele

[umbral crown]

Send pic

[keen vapor]

Check my blabla

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

If I'm gemming that's a convoluted way for me to gem from C5 to C3

[swift mango]

Ask Magolro to team up with you to keep that guy C6 if you could.

[keen vapor]

Hero ain't hitting YET

That's what I fear the most

3 gemmers

He's 443 already

Hito (C3) is 430 still

[swift mango]

Well you could ask the Ordelia guild or yenah to have him share the experience of getting ganged up by them.

That Ordelia union had 6-7 of them in one bracket and fill up the top 10.

[keen vapor]

@hollow eagle how to get def against gemmers

[swift mango]

I mean to ask them about the gang up to bully one guy protocol...

[hollow eagle]

gem more

[keen vapor]

Classic....

[hollow eagle]

Ordelia is a unique case, they dont play PvE at all

I was able to gain sync lvl advantage, otherwise I would never be able to win

[keen vapor]

[hollow eagle]

some of them dont even finish campaign, let alone hard mode

[swift mango]

See? Create your own little gang and bully that C3 dude

[hollow eagle]

Yea have to make your own gang

[swift mango]

[hollow eagle]

I had 2 buddies of mine back then too

[unkempt kestrel]

anyone got time to change up my sp team? Its been a while since I changed it and I am being attacked now.

My current team is
Noah, centi,cindy,helmT,noise
blanc,sbs,xmaid,biscuit,rumani
scar,rh,trina,anis,jackel

My OL units are until Anis.

[keen vapor]

@jagged python are you on my bracket?

[onyx scaffold]

scarlet trina cannot nuke nero moran at sr15 ? @swift mango

[keen vapor]

I struggled to even contact 1

[clear vessel]

Yes

[swift mango]

Defending on Crit and whether Moran burst before scarlet or not... Moran has good chance to die to counter... But the important thing is Rapu survive...

Ofc we are talking about Scarlet buffed by both Trina and RH ..

[keen vapor]

Hit C1

[swift mango]

I think you guys could try ganging up on C2 starting tomorrow?

[keen vapor]

You know you want to Malogro

Imagine not letting C1 getting free win at our bracket

[clear vessel]

My heart says yes but my wallet says no

[onyx scaffold]

i wonder if i should use rh or soda for scar team but afaik, my scar trina can nuke noise if i max their skill and dolls

[keen vapor]

You don't need to buy more levels

[keen vapor]

Look, this is the rule that I use to attack you

As long as I use comps that are less than 15.4% difference of CP I know I won't have it extra hard

Below 20% still doable

[clear vessel]

Yeah about that

[keen vapor]

You don't pad your units

Where's maxed doll Siren

[clear vessel]

That's actually in progress

But for the other PvP units, I've been thinking about it

Jackal was R doll until like yesterday

[keen vapor]

you maxed R doll first?

[clear vessel]

You insult me sir (I wanted to say "no" for the joke but yes I did)

[keen vapor]

( )

[unkempt kestrel]

should I just replace RH with siren? and swap siren and scarlet position based on what ive been seeing

[keen vapor]

That may help

[mild lion]

Can someone explain to me what the % value box in the bottom left corner means on Nikke Deck? Is that the Charge Speed lines for the unit?

[keen vapor]

Correct, charge speed

S10 refers to Skill that affects burst generation at level 10 (IE Helm skill 1)

[mild lion]

Thank you, just wanted to be sure. The stat allows for natural charge speed as well right? So units with skills that up charge speed make it easier to get to CS 17%?

[ocean vapor]

yes, this is how emilia can hit 38% cs in the nikke-deck

[coarse solstice]

Haven't checked but either way I'm sure it'll be close. 💪 Hopefully we meet in the finals maybe @Cup will give us a break 😂

[umbral belfry]

dude i KNOW oni is mad asf at their t5 vs cup again 😭

[mild lion]

Apparently I said a bad word lol no idea what, all I wanted to was ask if Adjutant is better on Emilia than Quantum

[mild lion]

Would the opportunity cost of allowing Quantum to go on other units make it to where Adjutant is better for Emilia? So I can try to fight for that high CS%?

[coarse solstice]

Brutal oof

[umbral belfry]

His helm must be bricked bc 😭

[ocean vapor]

you need adj to hit 38% anyway, but from my understanding, yes depending on ur CS% and burst gain that situation can happen, like for other units 15% cs equiping adj bumping them into 17% for a 2.5 rl team

[signal hull]

Is there any easy way to capture video from PC client and post here?
Cuz I have that one fight that I can't explain, I just dunno how it happened, it's against all logic.

[mighty haven]

OBS record

[ocean vapor]

i just use window xbox built in screen recorder, there also nvidia built in recorder. obs works too

[umbral crown]

Imagine maxing siren s doll

[umbral crown]

With RH and jackal they can

[onyx scaffold]

[umbral crown]

But the thing is check your possible rivals and next CA try to find the pattern where noah teams are placed , scar and emis

Its what i do

For example SG teams are in T3 or T4

Noahs usually T3

Scars mostly T1 T2

[covert lintel]

Windows 11 has a built-in xbox game bar
You can press windows+alt+R to record your screen immediately

[lunar pawn]

btw it went as planned

[signal hull]

Ah, Thanks, I'm at Windows 10 right now.

[covert lintel]

How was the p5 fight?
Can you share it?

[signal hull]

So anyway, umm... How does Blanc invulnerability works? 'Cause my S.Anis lost all health but stayed alive for 10 seconds after burst at visibly 0 health (sometimes healing a bit from Blanc I would guess and immediately losing health, but not dying), until she killed entire enemy team.

[covert lintel]

Iirc windows 10 has it too
So try find it in the setting

[lunar pawn]

it was carnage, scarlet s2 took care of most of it, sec

[keen vapor]

Yes, windows 10 as well

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

I'm 441 now

[umbral crown]

show

[covert lintel]

Most of their pellet triggered s2 scar

[keen vapor]

Blabla

[mild lion]

Is Tempering Cube as good for PvP as some folks are saying? I don't want to invest batteries if it isn't actually that helpful

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

besto cube

[keen vapor]

-damage taken is strong

Helps us in our Moran Nero teams

[covert lintel]

Yes 1st useful is tempering for pvp

[keen vapor]

Blood, confirm us

[covert lintel]

2nd quantum
3rd adjutant

[worthy sorrel]

i thought i'd lose this ngl. didn't notice their helmt wasn't finished yet

[swift mango]

I think I may stop here

But I'm not very sure. So if I cheer for my opponent and lose I won't get loser frame. If I cheer for myself and win it would be a slap to the face...b

This is hard

[mild lion]

Do you guys just put Tempering on anyone who isn't Quantum or Adjutant then? I have been using Bastion and Resil as my filler cubes simply for stat padding

[keen vapor]

I mainly use Temp for Blanc, Noah, Moran.... Key units

Summer Anis can't have anything but resilience

[umbral crown]

i put it on key units i want to survive everything, usually is best in tanks like noah, blanc or B3s like Scar to survive more

[signal hull]

Always cheer for yourself, even if you know you'll lose.
In my next rounds all those naggas are cheering against me. And it hurts my manly feelings. But I will cheer myself nonetheless 😠

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-eo-eoquote-chat-quote-this-guy-gif-7326053746658113800

[mild lion]

You guys dont run quantum on Noah for the sake of burst gen?

[swift mango]

I need to get Loser frame man... See my winner bettor frame there?

[umbral crown]

noah does not really need quatum but tempura to survive

[ocean vapor]

I only run it if it a biscuit-noah

[keen vapor]

We calc speed on Nikke deck, then decide
99% of the time we don't

[mild lion]

hmm I tend to use Noah x Biscuit but I guess that frees up a Quantum slot for someone else then if I build my Temp Cube

[signal hull]

I use quantum on top burst gen units if it'll help getting to certain RL threshold.

[umbral crown]

noah will always use tempura, even if its lv3

[keen vapor]

We have to protect Noah

She smol

[umbral crown]

mine is witout biscuit n CA

and she gonna face now DrakeT some SGs and Mihara

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[umbral crown]

but RH can take over with B2

[umbral belfry]

I'm ngl idk how you survived that 😭

[umbral crown]

worst case

[umbral crown]

i wanna trust my top 1 cp noah

i need to get her 2k cp to look nicer

[keen vapor]

Oh that reminded me to get her dupe from shop

[umbral crown]

you were complaning for months about not having her and now you forgetting to buy her dupes

fake simp

[worthy sorrel]

honestly just think it's the dolls. moran/bay defensive team with <r15 and both helmt and lapt aren't finished either it looks like

[umbral crown]

just look how i did my investment for RH after a year not having her

[covert lintel]

But my cooked team need it to barely reach 2rl

[keen vapor]

I'm not simping

[worthy sorrel]

oni had more total cp than me, but missing some important stat padding there

[umbral crown]

[lunar pawn]

ok new round, thinking attacker:

t1 loss
t2 win (depends on whether centi survives for a 2nd shot ig)
t3 loss
t4 win (splash dmg should make it so sanis gets indom, and due to having indom for longer, should win)
t5 win

thoughts?

[umbral belfry]

unfortunate on their part, but grats in advancing nonetheless

[umbral crown]

fake lover?

[keen vapor]

I said I'm not

[umbral crown]

now you can max skill her

imagine your noah max skill

[keen vapor]

stop

[umbral crown]

you can be like me

[signal hull]

So, can anyone explain how did my team did NOT get wiped by Cindy? And how did S.Anis surive at 0 health? Blanc?

[umbral crown]

she got indom in time

from blanc

[umbral belfry]

my ears

[signal hull]

So character under indom still loses health, but can't die, is that it?
But how did Blanc and Anis survive..

[signal hull]

Yeah sorry about that sound 😄

[umbral crown]

yeajh

[signal hull]

Huh... Live 'n learn...

[placid bloom]

Round 1 is a bit weird actually, killing Noise would put you at 2.5RL and if Ros can one-shot Pepper they have no B1. She will lose the conceal extra dmg on burst though since she’s taking rocket splash.

[umbral crown]

thats the life, living to learn

[covert lintel]

Attacker top?
If it is, he will lose completely or only 1 win in p5

[silent junco]

Would appreciate some help with a SP arena defense lineup. Already have a good 1st with Noise/Noah/S. Scarlet/Rapunzel/Jackal:

[ocean vapor]

blanc give indom to lowest hp and they cant die. Biscuit gives defender unit invincbility for 5 seconds when they drop below a certain hp percent

[lunar pawn]

yea atker top...one day I hope you elaborate your replies

[worthy sorrel]

u2!

feel like i missed a training montage in the offseason there. your teams lookin healthy 👀

[signal hull]

So because Cindy doesn't actually hits ONCE like Scarlet, but many small hits at a very short time, Biscuit managed to put invincibility at both Blanc and Anis during Cindy burst?

[worthy sorrel]

folian

[ocean vapor]

she hit both once and continuous nuke dmg, her singular nuke hit wasn't strong enough to 1 shot your defender so they got biscuit-invincbility

[lunar pawn]

@tropic summit is there any delay between re-enter burst nikkes in pvp? like, viper > xanne

[signal hull]

I like this team. I've created it without even planning all these nuances. I think I'll be keeping it :>

[umbral crown]

0.5 RL

[signal hull]

S.Anis rerun when, methinks she deserves MLB.
(I know I know, summer or never again)

[umbral crown]

helm and drake Treasured?

[umbral crown]

not anytime soon, she got rerun last year

[signal hull]

During summer. And it's almost summer.

[silent junco]

Yes, also Laplace

[umbral crown]

and thye will not keep reruning chars each year

[signal hull]

!! Rip.

[umbral crown]

now save some gems or golds to tix X.maiden this winter

[lunar pawn]

seasonal units from 2 years ago don't get reruns in their own season, after what we got told in the dev note last xmas

[umbral crown]

its like we were waiting for xanne but now she no longer meta with trina here

[umbral belfry]

I've been in the gym beefing up idc sm about winning CA, i just wanna get out of top 32

[umbral crown]

excellent, gonna think in teams for you

[cursive pike]

i’m not sure whether to bet on myself or the other guy. who is likely to win this round? i’m guessing my moran will get stunned and i will lose?

[umbral crown]

but you need to win to get out of gtop32

[umbral belfry]

My SP mate good guy, but bad matchups

[umbral crown]

[lunar pawn]

still useful in CA

for those who can participate in it anyway

[umbral crown]

maybe in SG team

[signal hull]

I'd bet on the left team (because yes, stun and HelmT will most likely oneshot Cindy), but what do I know, I can't predict anything right.

[covert lintel]

Team 2 lose 4sg targeting his centi which i assume only need 1shot to kill her(2wind here, don't expect centi will survive in more than 1shot)
Team 4 all the attacker shot including sanis goes to jackal so it will accelerate defender screen wipe
Team 5 win or lose depend on whether attacker can block helm burst or not

[grizzled bone]

[lunar pawn]

mm, so tl;dr attacker gets destroyed

fair enough

[placid bloom]

Round 5 attacker wins, Drake feeds Jackal to 2RL

[lunar pawn]

kudos

[placid bloom]

But yeah if that MPriv can one-shot then round 4 is dead too

[lunar pawn]

yea, t5 doubt was more on whether scarlet had enough damage to wipe on same burst timing

[placid bloom]

Idk how strong MPriv Blanc is

Since it’s just single debuff MPriv

[cursive pike]

i might bet on the other guy. 🥲 can my cinderella take a hit from emilias burst and dps down the other team or this one a loss?

[umbral crown]

☆☆☆ SP Defense ☆☆☆
Noah/Noise/Cinderella/Rapunzel/Centi
Scarlet/DrakeT/Trina/Red Hood/Jackal
SBS/Blanc/Rapipi/HelmT/laplaceT

[ocean vapor]

it more of if you can nuke emilia before she fires her red hood buffed nuke. I think cindy can kill emilia cuz of elemental adv, but i forgot how long it take for emilia to fire the nuke

[placid bloom]

You should lose. Noah Biscuit walls your burst and your charge shots after.

You should never win that matchup

They will have 5 units alive to your 1

[ocean vapor]

does it redirect all AOE dmg to noah?

[placid bloom]

Unless they have no cs and Noah gets stunned by Siren

That’s the only thing you can pray for

[ocean vapor]

even with a 2rl team, you need like 11 cs or something on every unit to avoid stun with noah against siren

[placid bloom]

Noah is 3 sec invin for entire team, Cinderella can never resolve burst through that

[ocean vapor]

unless they have 38% emilia + 11 cs+ on every unit, noah get stunned i think

[placid bloom]

Hmm they trolled their setup, even 5 quantum doesn’t get them 2RL

I guess Siren carries

[mild lion]

Does Scarlet have to be in P1 to get Trina's buff? Or does she just have to be leftmost Electric AR?

[coarse lake]

Leftmost

[glacial lion]

1rl

[limpid nebula]

willl this work for SPA?

[signal hull]

Top team is awful.

[limpid nebula]

just cp pad but idk if at least need 4rl

[umbral belfry]

all of those teams are 😭

[limpid nebula]

i thought the 3rl scarlet noah can bypass 2rl scarlet and force them to use noah

[umbral belfry]

p1 cindy you're basically giving opponent more burst gen due to her decoy, t3 scar will do baby damage even with liter, no point in both noah and trina together, esp when you need trina to burst for scar to nuke

[umbral belfry]

3 rl noah isn't catching a 2 rl scar

that's even assuming your scar lives to burst

[limpid nebula]

is it due to jackal feed?

[umbral belfry]

no, it's due to 3 rl noah not being fast enough for a 2 rl nuke

at 3 rl, noah shield is at 3.82. 2 rl nuke is at 3.16

if your aim is to catch a 2 rl nuke you need to match the speed

[shell hazel]

I did mention this yesterday lol! #pvp-arena message

[umbral belfry]

[limpid nebula]

that one somehow works for the SPA attack, but now my defence team : /

[signal hull]

Do you have Jackal?

[limpid nebula]

no jackal no blanc

[shell hazel]

you can't control who attacks you, so anyone can take advantage of your cindy p1

<@&946725432554836008>

[limpid nebula]

my current SPA teams, i tried to pack most cp on T1 & T2

[signal hull]

I dunno, maybe something like this.

You don't have units for third team.
Rosanna 3RL - pray-P1 gets killed first - cope?

[limpid nebula]

my rossa not built prob cant 1 shot

at this pt of time, my cindy no OL, SBS 1 OL : / scarlet 1 OL

[signal hull]

Focus Cindy.

[limpid nebula]

i shall do that when i have the mgears

[umbral belfry]

3rd choice can just be cp pad for now. focus on gearing up your campaign stuff to level up

[heady peak]

I'm cooked... well top 32 isn't so bad... would love to at least get top 16 one day.. ; ;

[bright mantle]

siren stuns at RL what

[heady peak]

if you want to have siren stun... RL2

and that can even fail

[old holly]

can i get some help making a proper team for special arena and maybe what characters i should try to get for future better arena comps?

[lunar pawn]

you're missing some key characters, like helm, jackal, centi, noah, scarlet, trina etc

<@&946725432554836008>

personal advice, ask the admins to change the role name to "mods", moderator is too long and a lot of people with similar names

[summer copper]

kids these days have trouble reading the word moderator?

[keen vapor]

Send a #modmail
But I agree

[keen vapor]

A trouble writing it fast to deal with bots*

[lunar pawn]

they're kinda understaffed rn, still got a modmail without a reply from like 2 weeks ago

[summer copper]

only takes about a second

[lunar pawn]

a second is all it takes for the gen alpha kid to smash that scam link

[summer copper]

gen alphas aren't even old enough to be here

[lunar pawn]

oldest gen alpha is 15, and I bet even younger are here despite ToS

[shell hazel]

right what should I send against this? my own Noah gets stunned by Siren usually

tried 2RL scarlet but can't wipe out Cindy. my scarlet doesn't have great rolls yet

[tulip holly]

Which resource is that ?

[signal hull]

You mean https://nikke-deck.web.app/ ?

[wise horizon]

Think I’m good but not sure. Any help here?

[signal hull]

Yeah, you go Alice! You can solo them! Bunny powah!

Well, looks good. MilkT... Wtf is a nagga thinking? Must be a big fan.

[lunar pawn]

noise at 2RL should be able to burst before siren stun in my experience

[shell hazel]

she can but even with my own cindy version it didn't work lol

[lunar pawn]

can't you run smth like, noise rumani sanis thelm noah? noah being faster than noise

[shell hazel]

no rumani only jackal alt

no sanis too new

[lunar pawn]

redpi? is she built?

[wise horizon]

thanks. think the guy is nuts or trying to prove people that MilkT is useful

[lunar pawn]

could try noise jackal redpi thelm noah

she'll blow cindy and noise up

[heady orchid]

Hi just started to focus on pvp who should I ungrade first (pretty much have everyone except Noah)

[shell hazel]

yep

[placid bloom]

2RL Blanc SBS, you will need Jackal p1 to control HP because SBS p1 loses to Siren and anyone else p1 means wrong indom.

[shell hazel]

my blanc/sbs are alright built, should work

[shell hazel]

show your roster ordered by power

[lunar pawn]

og scarlet+trina+jackal team, emilia so she can reach 21% CS, rumani/centi, blanc/biscuit, can't forget about treasure helm at least with s1 maxed, etc

[shell hazel]

dual purpose units like Helm T are actually ideal because you can use her in raids/pve as well

[signal hull]

Depends on how much into pvp are you, but without Noah it will be extra hard.
Cinderella and HelmT first and top prio, because they're good in all content.
Other than that I'd say OG Scarlet and Jackal.
Then Trina, Biscuit, Centi, Rumani, Blanc...

[heady orchid]

How do I create a roster

I play on phone

[shell hazel]

I mean your units

[lunar pawn]

take a pic of all your nikkes

[shell hazel]

but yeah just focus on Helm T if you don't have her yet, as a starter

[lunar pawn]

ordered by power

[heady orchid]

Is that good enough?

[signal hull]

Well he said he has everyone except Noah

[shell hazel]

?

[keen vapor]

@clear vessel I'm going to hit Hito

Let's see who he attacks from C5 ~~maybe C2 ~~

[shell hazel]

it's to get an idea of what pvp units to work with first for main nuker

[heady orchid]

Top 4 are helm crown Alice and naga

[lunar pawn]

did you try the redpi comp

[shell hazel]

I can try it but I need more than one option as I am just within the 200 pt range

so I'd like to try with that + sbs/blanc if that comp looks good

[lunar pawn]

if your redpi is built should be an easy w

[shell hazel]

you can do a cindy team she looks high up, and then an OG scarlet team next

lack of Noah is a bit sad but you can still do a decent team with Cindy core

[heady orchid]

Who do I need for Cinderella team?

[shell hazel]

is helm treasured?

[heady orchid]

Yep

[shell hazel]

skill 1 is 10?

[placid bloom]

No SBS p1 because Siren stuns her, then Helm will burst and die to Cinderella and SBS cannot clean up without burst. This should be your team order.

[heady orchid]

7 10 10

[placid bloom]

p4 can be any clip RL

[shell hazel]

could work Linus

we may want trina elsewhere later but hey good to build all these 5 anyway 🙂

[heady orchid]

Do centi need to be any level

[shell hazel]

most are OK on 4/4/4 except for Helm (10/10/10) Cindy (10/7/10), Trina (4/10/4)

Trina can go to 4/7/4 for budget

basic OL is king - just get gear to +0 and add a rock for initial OL rolls

[heady orchid]

Thx, would I need red equipment

(Overload)

[shell hazel]

chest + boots is best for batteries like noise/trina/centi

makes em tankier they aren't there for damage

[heady orchid]

Thanks for the advice

[shell hazel]

for dolls, R-15/SR-5 eventually but not above core DPS or main teams

noise is taking more hits than anyone else here in theory

low priority doll improvements, but noise is more important vs trina or centi

[heady orchid]

Can I have a team for jackal as well pls has her on core 2

[shell hazel]

thanks I'll send it, and I'll try the redpi team as well @lunar pawn

[shell hazel]

eventually you want a scarlet team with jackal

there are a few options you can indom with blanc or try for 2RL, but trina may be wanted for that

blanc / scarlet indom

it's important that jackal links with scarlet + redhood here, xmaiden is good because she has low attack and won't link

(unless your RH is bricked and your xmaiden is super built)

[heady orchid]

Does jackal links base on health or damage?

[shell hazel]

it's atk

this kind of thing can also work and would upgrade to 2RL with feed

atk stat on character page does not include OL lines for atk % which do count

if you want to be sure who links go into a mock battle with the team and see who has the jumpin jack flash buff when you pause it

should be two highest atk besides jackal herself

mock battle on anything but I tend to use one of the AI bosses

[heady orchid]

Thx gonna go upgrade now

Btw for cubes do they need to be high lvl

[shell hazel]

quantum is good for jackal/trina etc in the example above

you can run say vigor on noise

generally your highest cubes should be OK elsewhere

temperance is a decent general purpose cube as well

[shell hazel]

failed, though my SBS isn't amazing. she's decent but not amazing. siren stun nulled some of her effectiveness

[shell hazel]

this worked 🙂

thanks both always appreciate the suggestions! I'll upload both tries for 🍿 rewards

[lunar pawn]

[clear vessel]

Counting on it, I shuffled my defense just for that

[lunar pawn]

no embed

[shell hazel]

no, also I moved it out of draft mode 😄

[keen vapor]

[shell hazel]

still didn't work

try again...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKX-dGMj_kI

there you go 🙂

[lunar pawn]

[shell hazel]

SBS version (sadly failed)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD7g2MwKPdQ

that stun really screws with SBS lol

[covert lintel]

2rl blanc sanis

[lunar pawn]

he doesn't have sanis

[shell hazel]

started at cindy banner sanis hasn't run

[placid bloom]

They were a lot tankier than I expected

[shell hazel]

my SBS needs more work on rolls still as well

but she spent a good bit of that indom stunned as well

[lunar pawn]

sbs wasn't stunned, jackal was

but you had like 6s to actually attack the enemy team before your indom ran out

[onyx scaffold]

-. - both

[snow kraken]

SBS got stunned after

[lunar pawn]

not enough without elem advantage/cracked rolls

[shell hazel]

yep SBS lost a few secs of dps time to stun after indom

[lunar pawn]

oh right, you got double stunned

[shell hazel]

yep, initial stun was on jackal after burst

[onyx scaffold]

Why not run rh there ? No cs on jackal?

[shell hazel]

I was just thinking RH would work well as well

[onyx scaffold]

Blanc rh would let sbs murder everything quickly. We dont talk about biscuit

[shell hazel]

oh maybe it would buff her enough

I think RH as main nuker also works

my RH is pretty well rolled and geared so would output a ton of damage once Noah invuln ends

[covert lintel]

Try

[tropic summit]

yes there is, re-enter will make you slower than equivalent RL without

[shell hazel]

no rumani it would have to be jackal

guessing stun on midhara applies dot?

[covert lintel]

No, u let her die sniped by opponent's helmT

[shell hazel]

guessing jackal would link her though

in that comp, would link helm and midhara

[covert lintel]

It would fun to watch mihara comp though

[shell hazel]

would need someone else to link instead of biscuit but think you go too slow then

[regal garden]

what happened? it was working before... could see the levels, could see the names. now everyone is 01

[shell hazel]

?

[lunar pawn]

cheering bot vs bot whole group like that wew

SU: CA has been perfected after nearly 2 years

[umbral belfry]

my god

[crystal flicker]

I'm really considering to roll CritR Rosa

[lunar pawn]

save your rocks for collab, all I will say

[umbral belfry]

surely we get a pvp unit

[shell hazel]

no idea how the guy on the right has 24% of the vote lol

they're running teams like this

[umbral belfry]

might be trying for losing frame

[shell hazel]

guy on left won last time but also actually has proper teams 😄

[shell hazel]

true I suppose

[crystal flicker]

14 rocks to make 2.5RL Cindy to 2.37RL

[ornate spoke]

what the heckm why you ruining my chances to get the loser frame

[dire root]

[umbral crown]

Do it

[covert lintel]

Let's go

[shell hazel]

i'll send it tomorrow don't want to hammer the poor guy too badly 😛

[crystal flicker]

This my Rosa against Mana with Nero red

I need invested Noir or B2 passive that buff allies atk in order to make her 1 tap any Attacker

[spiral onyx]

lmaooooo, Moran carry

[crystal flicker]

Just confirming, Lv 5 Adjutant gives 1.59CS which round to 2%?

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/9IGxPr2hj24

[wicked horizon]

What do I seem more likely to win? 🤔

[shell hazel]

damn that moran match haha

[umbral crown]

Moran too op

[regal garden]

guys, I just got Moran... whom to replace with her?

[regal garden]

got her from molds

[graceful grotto]

@calm gull it actually works lol

[calm gull]

ofc it works

[graceful grotto]

unexpected for me kewk, i even voted the other guy lolol

time to get the losing cheer

[calm gull]

its better anyway

[graceful grotto]

i almost got it last season

[keen tendon]

Any thoughts on how to win this fight?

[graceful grotto]

reverse blanc is the key kewk

[keen tendon]

Any team comps in mind?

[graceful grotto]

it’s a 2RL Blanc Ein, try 2.5 or 3RL Blanc Scar

[calm gull]

2RL Noah

[wheat heart]

My BSoda is 7/7/10. Is it worth it to go 10/10/10 for PVP?

[crystal flicker]

No

[wheat heart]

I can't really figure out her skills so not really sure what I'd get out of it.

[granite anchor]

you should use a Sanis team IMO

[glad meteor]

Most important breakpoint is 7 on skill 1 for atk buff on burst , burst is more damage so not bad I guess. S2 is more for raid if I’m not mistaken

[shell hazel]

[crystal flicker]

Is this chart really accurate though
It's said that Noah 2RL Burst at 3.65s
If we breakdown the timing will be 2.66+0.417+0.517+0.117 = Which equal to 3.711 instead

[thin perch]

How is this team? Should I consider investing in pepper and moving rumani to another team?

[crystal flicker]

Wheres CIndy

[glad meteor]

It says 2.6s if I’m not mistaken

[crystal flicker]

Noah should be paired with Instant Nuke like Cindy
This comp will lose against 3RL Blanc

[crystal flicker]

?

[glad meteor]

You wrote 2.66 instead of 2.6

[crystal flicker]

1RL = 1.33

[glad meteor]

They’re 2rl is shown as 2.6

[crystal flicker]

If the chart true, this means my 2.39RL Noah can block 2RL Scarlet

[glad meteor]

How much cs is that

[wicked horizon]

I'm thinking Left, Left, Right, Right, Right?

[crystal flicker]

21%

[wicked horizon]

But I can see some potential shenanigans.
Team 2 Helm could one-shot Rapi, causing Rosanna to generate enough burst to let Cinderella burst, and maybe that could actually wipe the left team.
Team 3, I can imagine everyone else dying except Emilia and Emilia not being able to finish the left team off (Bay tanks the first huge burst?)
Team 4, I assume Siren stuns Emilia and then RH won't have enough time to kill the right team because Helm burst one-shots her? But it's hard to predict where these shots will go. If it hits Emilia, RH can just tear through the team?

[placid bloom]

round 2 Helm is shooting at Alice, can solo kill with ele advantage. Everyone else is shooting at Naga, who should die before even being able to burst. There is no other B2 on the team.
round 4 is defender feeds attacker to 2.5RL because Nero + Mermaid, so RH will cast B3 before Helm can cast B3, which guarantee makes her the Helm target since her Atk will be buffed by B3.

even if she didn't, RH would always die from Helm nuke because Jackal link

[wicked horizon]

Why are they shooting at Naga in round 2?

[placid bloom]

Rosanna is skipped because conceal

[hushed kelp]

For RL, how does charge damage OL compare to atk OL line?

[wicked horizon]

idk chief

[placid bloom]

[hushed kelp]

Conceal goes away when she takes damage

RL blast damage will disable it

[wicked horizon]

Like getting shot once by Anchor's RL.

I mean, if she dies before left team bursts though, then yeah, they lose.

[crystal flicker]

I can't test my Noah since none in my bracket running 2RL lmao

[wicked horizon]

Team 3, Mihara actually probably dies before bursts come out, leaving Rosanna to hit Emilia and RH.
But with Jackal link, I don't think she's killing both of them. If Blanc's burst comes out, right team should win.

Man, why's PvP so hard.

Is Blanc indom Emilia strong enough to wipe a team if she didn't burst?

Probably not through Helm burst...

Ah, yeah, it's probably just the 3rd round that's a coinflip.
At least I can't tell.

Surely Rosanna's burst can't one-shot 3 Jackal-linked units...

[worthy knoll]

[raven plover]

[hexed cypress]

I achieve it!

How this def team can be in first i wonder

[umbral crown]

[calm gull]

[calm gull]

p4 bot win no?

[crystal flicker]

Most likely, unless Nero die from SG

[covert lintel]

So even just moran get burst the team still survive from cindy

[crystal flicker]

Moran Nero 100% survive, Rapunzel maybe

[crystal flicker]

Yeah she survive that

Even 0 OL Quiry survive that

[wise horizon]

Swap LaplaceT for RH for T3 is better?

[crystal flicker]

yes

Rapu should die with RH buff

[short nebula]

Heya! Looking for help with Arena and SP Arena defensive teams.

Wouldn't mind leveling up Rumani or a couple other Nikkes if it's advised? For an idea of power numbers (if it matters lmao):

Start of Row 1: Laplace 126k
End of Row 1: Rogue 110k
End of Row 2: Liter 99k
End of Row 3: Mihara 87k
End of Row 4: Anis 54k — (The last fully OL char in that row is Tia @ 76k)

[thin perch]

Can someone help me make 3 SP defense teams that fully counters these attack teams?

Or just 2 teams that won’t lose to any of these

I don’t care how much money or unit investment it takes I need to eviscerate this guy so he never challenges me again

[ocean vapor]

it hard to fully counter attack teams, the only way is to combat-power diff

[crystal flicker]

Feels like that T2 Bot can win if Moran burst

[crystal flicker]

You need to upgrade Trina, Anis, Rumani to OL0 and R15/SR5

[thin perch]

What kills this team?

[slate trench]

im trying to get silver frame, but i dont know which teams do better in Championship. Both teams have similar set up

i kinda hate ppl start using same meta teams

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Trina Anis XMaiden Jackal
Noise Noah Cindy HelmT Rumani (Make sure Noise CS lower than Noah)
Blanc Emi RH Biscuit Centi, better if you can get some CS OL Centi

[raven plover]

that nero moran RH team

[graceful grotto]

So much Nero team now

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/déjàvu-drift-anime-initial-d-car-gif-17211916

[slate trench]

right team wins ?

[graceful grotto]

T1 and T3 is 50/50

T2 and T4 prolly right, T5 prolly left

[swift mango]

Unless RH pierce cover all 3 shots Moran won't be fast enough to catch Scar nuke and the team will lose.

[graceful grotto]

Not sure on T4 still, not too familiar with Nero comp

[crystal flicker]

Noah 2RL
2.5RL Stall comp
3RL Blanc Emi

[short nebula]

Thanks so much! I'll start plinking away at those three!
Do you have a general defensive recommendation for default arena? This one may be a bit dated?

[crystal flicker]

T4 Nero win, they 100% survive Scarlet Trina

[raven plover]

ye Im just saying I seen it, the rng pray team

[crystal flicker]

Unless Scarlet 80% Ele

[slate trench]

presume t1 is not 50/50. which team do u consider to be better?

[thin perch]

Are there two seperate defense teams I can run that are both immune to 2rl nukes?

[final wedge]

guys??????? my Rapun SR5 doll.....Moran lvl.10 burst.......will it survive Scar Blanc?????

shud survive right???? right?

[slate trench]

[final wedge]

Temperance lvl.3 cube as well

[graceful grotto]

I prolly say left, red hood b1 + jackal so SG is gonna feed her

[slate trench]

i see. left team fits my bias since i see core 5 noise can out heal coreless noise on the right

just hope the right team lose

[thin perch]

Does [Scar Trina Helm.T Laplace.T/xMaiden/ClipSG Moran] actually work?

[crystal flicker]

Emi/Scarlet better instead of Cindy, also avoid using Cindy at P1 and P2

[thin perch]

Or better yet is there a SAnis stall comp that can beat a 2rl scarlet or Cindy nuke?

Whenever I try to run a Moran Biscuit SAnis team only Moran survives the nuke

[keen vapor]

Arena Record: Hito bite the bait and hit C2, seems to be scared by @clear vessel enough for him to play safe and annoy Abathur again on the season

As an extra note, it seems that Hero doesn't log as often, which may explain why he isn't hitting for higher placements

[crystal flicker]

It seems that when DMG Taken met DMG Red, they'll reduce each other

[keen vapor]

Damage reduction doesn't exists?

[crystal flicker]

Reduced with dmg taken value?

[keen vapor]

There's +Damage Taken and -Damage Taken

[crystal flicker]

Yes? That's what I call dmg red

[keen vapor]

But it's not really labeled as something different

[keen vapor]

It shouldn't surprise you that they deduct each other

[crystal flicker]

Coz in dmg formula, dmg taken directly included to multiply final atk

[keen vapor]

[crystal flicker]

I'm missing huge number there
Ein burst

[near plank]

@raven plover will you beat @torn obsidian ?

[raven plover]

no

[near plank]

[umbral crown]

now its really late for me but during lunch break promise to give you the teams

[swift mango]

🤝 okay, let's see if either of us getting pass today

[umbral crown]

imagine cheering for cold

or going for loser frame

which you already have

[swift mango]

I need to cheer for loser frame. I should cheer for myself here because I'm more likely to lose but I didn't.

[swift mango]

I'm not

[umbral crown]

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/gang-handshake-friends-smile-happy-gif-16516206

[raven plover]

wtf same

[umbral crown]

Believe even if losing

The only way i will get winner frame is winning myself

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

If not do not want it

[raven plover]

we gambling

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

I already got winner frame so...

[near plank]

its bait

rosy will still win

[umbral crown]

[near plank]

every single majority vote higher sync commander = win

[swift mango]

I won last season with 6/6 match people all cheer against me.

[umbral crown]

Like this?

[swift mango]

But today doesn't look so well.

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

Beating the odds

[near plank]

its not really odds though

people are just dumb

[swift mango]

I think I beat the odd enough just by getting to top 64. With the same team as last season. VS the opponent in my last Semi final using a new team.

[umbral crown]

[near plank]

mean while i always go 2-1 and fail to enter

[umbral crown]

Like my S1 winner, still with same teams

Now S1 winner vs S3 winner

[swift mango]

He won season 3 with same team?

[umbral crown]

S3 has same teams, S1 winner just won once

[swift mango]

My HelmT team not only same team but also same position.

[umbral crown]

But both have same teams

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

[crystal flicker]

The only way Ein burst to reach that number is if they also include +140% charge damage as burst buff

[umbral crown]

Last season i did 4-1 to S1 winner

[swift mango]

My S1 winner dropped out at top 64 match yesterday.

His team was shit and just hard counter mine in first season anyway

[umbral crown]

Waos, next season gonna do teams that beat both of them 3-2

I just do not remember S2 winnee tho

[crystal flicker]

Speaking of CA winner, this is upcoming match between S2+S3 CA winner against random guy in my bracket

[umbral crown]

Epp time

[swift mango]

G9

[spiral onyx]

SG team winning against a Scarlet team 😮

Unexpected SAnis loss against Helm+ team

[coarse lake]

that happens more often than you would think

for my setup it happens more often than not even, all the sg team has to do is have the rosa outlive the sgs

[spiral onyx]

Oh wait it's cause not Scarlet Jackal

[graceful grotto]

I have my Mihara suicide team won against Sanis

[coarse lake]

that shouldn't change anything for that fight

[graceful grotto]

It was glorious

[spiral onyx]

Scarlet should live 3x longer

[coarse lake]

if the rosa outlives the sgs enough to snipe scar, and you got enough hp left (esp if xanne heal), you're good to go cleaning up scar's team

scar is gonna die to rosa regardless

your rapu variant is the outlier due to potential revive or rosa unable to kill full hp scar

for most setups, I expect sg rosa to win vs scar jack

mine has fought sg rosa 3 times

lost 2 due to rosa snipe, the only one I won, was bc their rosa was weak and couldn't kill scar

there is still a bit of rng on whether rosa lives long enough to snipe ofc, but it seems to happen fairly often

[crystal flicker]

It's bcoz they're not using Soda

[coarse lake]

?

[spiral onyx]

My Scarlet survived through both a Rosanna and Drake nuke

[coarse lake]

that's after rapu heal

and drake hit unlinked jackal, so didn't hit scar

[crystal flicker]

Ah that Rosa comp bursting at 1.96

[spiral onyx]

I might lose tomorrow's matchup... My Emilia is ironically too fast

And Cindy vs indom Scalter is a coin flip of who which happens first - indom wears off or Cindy dies

[coarse lake]

if she wasn't fast enough you lose due to noah stun

so you had a hard matchup there regardless of emi invest

[swift mango]

Got my Anti Siren to work this season as well... Now I only need a SBS match up win for my Emi to complete the collection of this Emi team wins...

[thin perch]

Does everyone use a Cindy team for their SP defense?

[final wedge]

why???? why put 2RL on Emi team??? ......ur aiming to catch n kill Nero Moran?

[swift mango]

Yes, I would use my ReiT if her CP was as high....

[thin perch]

Cause I’m debating on what my core so defense teams should be

I always have a Scarlet Trina team, but I’ve been trying to decide whether to use an Emilia nuke team, a SAnis stall comp, or a Cindy team.

[final wedge]

bear in mind dat Cindy burst takes time.....sadly its almost like 0.5 RL to finish all her attack

but....i feel like its not the burst dat took 0.5 RL to finish....more like Cindy burst has some sort of delay before dat consecutive beam is triggered

and dat "delay" is sorta slow

[thin perch]

The concept I’m struggling to grasp is what slow comps can survive multiple 2rl nukes

[spiral onyx]

At this point anything that isn't a 2RL is gonna be considered risky

[coarse lake]

so you're just banking on blanc-buffed emi being enough when they don't run emi

[final wedge]

Ive tried 2RL Cindy VS 2.5 RL team dat has Noise Noah.......

by math, my Cindy shud kill em all since 2 RL B3 shud reach before Noah burst......but........Noise buff delay the damage hence Noah burs trigger before Cindy finishin up her burst

[spiral onyx]

Especially given that Emilia relies on Noah's burst

[coarse lake]

oh wait nvm miranda s2 still triggers

[spiral onyx]

2RL Cindy won't be at 2.5RL Noah

[thin perch]

I feel like my defense looses no matter what cause a Noah/Cindy will always kill at least one of my teams and double buff scarlet will get another one

[spiral onyx]

Best case scenario Noah blocks only the second wave

[final wedge]

dats the case

[coarse lake]

noah can block half if cindy is 1rl faster

just 0.5rl is like almost full block

[final wedge]

yea......fudge me

it happens on my 1st CA

i was wondering...."why"....then i realized.....my Cindy burst only hit like half of her burst

[coarse lake]

my cindy team has enough sustain and dmg that they gotta run a biscuit with that noah still, otherwise I still got good odds of winning

[final wedge]

when critical oppoenent is not ded (due to opp boosted HP by Noise).....the chance of killin the enemy become lot less

if wanna use Cindy....sadly....i think making her 2RL for SPA might be the best option.....cuz.....its too predictable

[spiral onyx]

I don't think there's any optimizations left really for my 5 CA teams

[thin perch]

Question: is my SP defense going to lose on the first attack no matter my comp if the attacker knows what they are doing?

[final wedge]

i know exactly dat feeling

[spiral onyx]

And the bar for new units is really high

Would need someone better than Emilia or Cindy

[final wedge]

as much as i wanna be excited in EVERY SINGLE SEASON......the SEASON is just plain.....its like no seasoning at all

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-wag-finger-point-you-funny-gif-16140793

[final wedge]

its all lay out....all the comps all strat.....everythin

[thin perch]

Am I just banking on people getting bored of attacking my 1st place spot?

[coarse lake]

obviously

the only solution is cp gap them

[spiral onyx]

I still need to update my tier list with redone descriptions and new units and adjusted for CA

[coarse lake]

and every new pvp unit makes attacking easier and easier

[spiral onyx]

I better hurry up before I get aggrod away by Etheria Restart

[coarse lake]

you playing that too?

[final wedge]

they need to make seasonal buff in CA so it will get spicy

[coarse lake]

I noticed scarlet was in the beta

[spiral onyx]

Literally me right now

[coarse lake]

bro I can't wait to play an actual pvp gacha

[thin perch]

I feel like my defense used to be so much easier but now everyone has multiple 2rl nukes💀

[spiral onyx]

Yeah, we dominated the rankings and the PvP tournament lol

Literally gonna have to disband out of embarrassment if we don't get R1 for launch

[coarse lake]

I think you guys got some tough competition

iirc there is a union called oasis that is also quite good

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-of-the-century-sakib-khan-sakib-khan-bangla-rnar-joke-gif-21743802

They have no receipts

[coarse lake]

hey that was just from a single pic I saw I wasn't in beta

[spiral onyx]

Their main guild is maybe comparable to our second guild

[thin perch]

Is the stun on Siren actually viable for pvp or is it not worth it?

[coarse lake]

it's viable, esp on atk

[spiral onyx]

Oh yeah the screenshots they are using are literally at the start of the game taken right after reset

Can't find a proper screenshot but here's what the rankings looked like mid beta

The gap just continued widening as we got closer to the end of beta

[coarse lake]

[spiral onyx]

Meanwhile, this is the one screenshot they try to advertise with. Note that the guild level here is lvl 11. At the end of beta, we were all lvl 20

[coarse lake]

oh the one I saw was a bit diff, lemme find it

[thin perch]

Is there any alternative SP team I can make with these that isnt the typical:

Scarlet Trina nuke

Leftover stall comp

Noah cindy Noise helm nuke

[coarse lake]

oh it was this

[thin perch]

I tried fiddling around with these units and made teams like these:

[spiral onyx]

Lvl 8 lmao

[coarse lake]

well launch should be funny, I'll just sit back in my casual union

[spiral onyx]

But yeah, we do have potential competition coming from some E7/SW guilds migrating over but we've already gotten most of the big players and locked in our 60

[coarse lake]

not like I can get into the whale ones anyway with stam refresh being a thing, even if dupes are eh

[spiral onyx]

There were a lot of guilds in CBT that advertised themselves as "rank 1" in other games but Scarlet was the only one who provided receipts

[coarse lake]

I suppose there is that risk of big migrations like you said, esp those that didn't do beta

[spiral onyx]

Would be ironic if they later introduced a new meta unit named "Scarlet" just like they did for Nikke

PvP without competition is boring, so I do hope that happens

Plus Etheria Restart will actually have proper GvG, something I've been craving since Artery Gear Fusion and Valkyrie Connect

[thin perch]

LMAO I made this guy waste gems on 2 attempts

I think this is their 10th attack today. I’m just gonna keep buying my spot back bro I need to send a message

I also rotate my defense teams every loss so they have to rebuild their teams every attempt

[coarse lake]

do we know anything about it? or is it like a champ arena situation on launch

[spiral onyx]

Nope, new feature, but I would be willing to bet $20 it's like tower/castle defence like pretty much every other game

[coarse lake]

[spiral onyx]

Beat preset enemy teams to advance towards some center castle, guild that reaches the middle first or gets the most points from clears wins

That's how it is in most games

[tulip holly]

Alright new defense holds pretty well for a few days so I guess it's time to go into attack , teams vs this guy ? Overwrote older teams I had by accident for the new defense teams. Units here #pvp-arena message

[spiral onyx]

Nikke was never PvP focused so we never had high hopes
But Etheria Restart is PvP focused from the get go

[crystal flicker]

2RL Scarlet vs T2
2RL Emi Blanc vs T3

[misty finch]

What are the best SP arena def teams if you have all meta PvP units? Only s & s+ tier invested

Guess I'm missing emilia & laplace/drake treasure nvm 😔

[leaden canyon]

scar skill 2 gives burstgen right?

[coarse lake]

yes

[wise horizon]

Don’t think I can win in T3 cos I don’t think my scarlet is fast enough before Noah uses invincibility

[thin perch]

This guy is deranged

This is the 15th attack today

[final wedge]

....mine was 18......but urs still have time....keep him interested

[thin perch]

I’m just buying back my spot lmao it’s about sending a message

[final wedge]

nothin made me more excited than lookin at dum dum spamming attack without knowing how to cook

[crystal flicker]

Trina

[thin perch]

I’m rotating my teams so he has to rebuild his team everytime 😛

[final wedge]

yea i did dat too

dem...i miss those days....

[thin perch]

Feeling quite devious

[covert lintel]

This is his feeling right now

[thin perch]

He’s 26 synchro levels above me btw

[final wedge]

lemme guess....nothing change on his defense?

[thin perch]

Bro is huffing core dust

[thin perch]

Nope

[wise horizon]

Don’t have Trina. Think this is better. Right?

[wanton island]

god. im tired of winning 2/5 every cpa

[thin perch]

It wouldn’t matter anyway cause unlike him I know what teams beat each of his

[crystal flicker]

That T2 lose

[crystal flicker]

You just need 2RL Cindy vs T2 and 2RL Scarlet vs T3

[final wedge]

tell urself this...."CA reward is shet"....maybe dat will calm u....cuz it did calm mine

[wanton island]

yeah... that worked the first 4 or 5 cpas....

[crystal flicker]

Build stall comp and be peak

[thin perch]

Question: what do you all consider the best stall comp?

[final wedge]

what will happen if same Nero Moran Helm Rapunzel comp team fight??????? who will win??

[final wedge]

Nero Moran Helm Rapunzel Mana ....

[thin perch]

Is blanc SAnis biscuit, or Moran biscuit SAnis, or Noah SAnis Biscuit better?

[final wedge]

best 2.5-3RL team by far to eliminate 2-5-3RL team

[thin perch]

Will a 2rl Cindy always burst at 2.5?

[final wedge]

id say Blanc SAnis Biscuit.....if Blanc get stunned, ur team switch into SAnis Biscuit....more complexity

[final wedge]

not burst at 2.5......its very likely ended at 2.5RL

the burst still on 2RL...its just the ending of her half other hits ended on 2.5RL

and.....whats shet about Cindy is her randomness

[thin perch]

So does that mean a 2.5 biscuit plus blanc comp can survive a Cindy nuke?

[wise horizon]

That’s quite hard to achieve without Trina

[final wedge]

i had one case where enemy Noise burst....and 1 hit of Cindy burst is given to 1 enemy each....the rest is blocked by enemy Noah....im liek....

[thin perch]

Cause I noticed my blanc Emilia Redhood biscuit would survive this guys’s Cindy nuke

Or at least one of the damage dealers would get blanc invuln and kill the rest

[final wedge]

yea it can....consecutive isnt instant....so Biscuit invicibilty still can easily trigger

[oblique ridge]

Rng

[crystal flicker]

Anis

[thin perch]

Real time malding as we are talking

[final wedge]

blud still gemming

[wanton island]

is my team just bad or is defending that much of a penalty?

[final wedge]

keep it up....lil did he know we are approaching collab soon

[oblique ridge]

Arcana pouting because they aren’t being used to pull her

[thin perch]

Guys how many attempts till they stop?

[final wedge]

id say 5 more

[thin perch]

It’s like 20 by now…

[coarse lake]

Your team is bad

Both are what I consider barely functional

[wanton island]

advice?

[coarse lake]

Look at what chefs are cooking up for other ppl, esp in this channel, copy those for the most part

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet w/o buff not gonna kill

[coarse lake]

Or ask for cook, or learn to cook

[wanton island]

lol. i can just look at cpa winners then

[coarse lake]

Winners don't mean great teams

[final wedge]

yep...copy n paste is still better atm

[wanton island]

if they won. they won

[coarse lake]

They just got lucky

[final wedge]

i mean....look at @raven plover .....back to back rank 1 CA.....same comps

[crystal flicker]

You can copy their comp, but you don't know their investment

[thin perch]

Alright I immediately to back 1st place in less than 60 seconds

[wanton island]

yeah. this is why i havent yet

[thin perch]

And rotated my teams backwards

[wise horizon]

Hmm swap Xmaiden out for RH but it turns to 2.5RL

[final wedge]

why nobody is using SG team to def at SPA anymore???? i know its an easy tackle but we only have 1 biscuit (pretend makima doesnt exist)

[ocean vapor]

hard counter by jackal, me think

[final wedge]

my SPA so far aiming for biscuit opponent....so unless they use Makima....im safe

[crystal flicker]

I did

[final wedge]

so far Scar Blanc need biscuit.....SG also ned Biscuit.....just need 1 more comp.....2 RL fast burst general.....then im good

[coarse lake]

Scar Blanc and SG don't need biscuit

[final wedge]

its a good test so far for my opp

so far they havent figure it out.....cuz.....cant cook

[thin perch]

Me changing my comp after every failed attempt