pvp-arena

[keen vapor]

Nothing will work at 160 wall

[umbral belfry]

I got somethign that can work for you echo

[rich fossil]

I mean I just want the teams so when I get over the wall it won't matter

[umbral belfry]

[rich fossil]

😔 true I'm at silver 1

[keen vapor]

IO IO IOOOOOOOO I'LL DO IT JUST STOP SHAKING MEEEEEE

[calm gull]

its rough for returnees to compete in pvp,
even reshuffle wont help

[umbral belfry]

Maybe some sort of 2 RL indom blanc? But I'm not really sure how viable SAnis and/or Emi would be for that if you're using that

[keen vapor]

I'm only seeing 3 MLB ok, 4 with one Alice from bonus recruit

Challengers are 361 ain't it?

[rich fossil]

exactly

[keen vapor]

You're needing 2 dupes for Liter

Wait, Drake too... Drake could work, yeah

[rich fossil]

exactly..

[keen vapor]

I see now

[rich fossil]

I'm so beating this like in a month or two

[keen vapor]

Do a single every day on standard banner

[hollow lagoon]

What’s a silver 1

[keen vapor]

Your rank

[rich fossil]

I do that the half price daily

[hollow lagoon]

[keen vapor]

Good

[hollow lagoon]

Ain’t diamond like the lowest?

[keen vapor]

Look at your rank again

[hollow lagoon]

Or I’m I thinking something else

I’m some meat colored weird rank

Wait are we talking sp arena?

[rich fossil]

I'm trying to save for collab tho I already have 200 milage if my collab goes well maybe I will get all collab units

[keen vapor]

Yes

And server reuses same icons for server rank

[rich fossil]

I think the icons are for how much of a yapper you are

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t see anything beneath diamond 5

[keen vapor]

If you see reward tab you'll see +121 top or something like that

Those +hundred places are platinum, gold, silver.... Bronze

[hollow lagoon]

Oh learn something new every day

[rich fossil]

so like no teams guys 😔

[hollow lagoon]

Why’s there only 2 brown and a huge bunch of purple

Is dis racism

Nvm the meat colored ones are just as much

[keen vapor]

are you colorblind?

[rich fossil]

TEAMS PLS

[keen vapor]

OKAY

[rich fossil]

[keen vapor]

But now I won't know if he's colorblind :pepeh: I hope you're happy

[raven plover]

faster

[hollow lagoon]

I see hexagonal meat slabs

Wagyu rank

[keen vapor]

Ok, that is fine

[rich fossil]

tic toc tic toc

[hollow lagoon]

Believe in @keen vapor he’s Waygu rank for a long time

[rich fossil]

if he a whale I don't believe in those 😔

[keen vapor]

I see no jackal, no biscuit, no Rapunzel, no Noah

[hollow lagoon]

Problem is I don’t know what u got

[keen vapor]

F2P btw

[rich fossil]

your words are absolute my lord

[keen vapor]

But there's Anne and Anchor
Workable ig

[hollow lagoon]

Can make a Blanc team I guess, iffy tho cuz no jackal/biscuit 3 team is kinda tall order

[rich fossil]

yeah my collection is not that good yet

[hollow lagoon]

U have S Anis

[rich fossil]

yes

I just have her cause I was playing at the time of her rerun got her like first 10 pull

[hollow lagoon]

Can prob do some basic sg team and Blanc team rest is yolo

[rich fossil]

what is sg

[hollow lagoon]

Shotgun

[rich fossil]

does tove help I have her

[keen vapor]

Not builded up

Gonna ask just in case@rich fossil
Alice has 7-8% charge speed in her overloads?

[hollow lagoon]

Well I don’t have her so me jelly

[rich fossil]

I meann I just want to know who to build as well so its gonna help still just tell me the teams and I will build them

[rich fossil]

that's my friend where you are wrong she only has one overlord gear

[keen vapor]

You'll need Summer Anis for electric bosses around chapter 30

[hollow lagoon]

Step 1 pull Noah, step 2 pull biscuit, step 3 pull jackal

[rich fossil]

I'm still at ch 21

[keen vapor]

why did I had hopes

[keen vapor]

That's closer to 31 than 13

[rich fossil]

I just came back a month ago I just started to clear interception x

[hollow lagoon]

At the boss yet?

[rich fossil]

I'm 21 -20

[hollow lagoon]

get ready for a fun time

[rich fossil]

mother whale I heard

[rich fossil]

just tell me the TEAMS I WILL BUILD TRUST

cause I know nothing about pvp

[hollow lagoon]

Erm

Come back when ur level 200 and we can prob work something out

[rich fossil]

but like

[hollow lagoon]

If u wanna wish list units

[rich fossil]

I just want to know which characters I should build

[keen vapor]

Did come up with this

Don't invest Privaty

We only need her to stun

[rich fossil]

I will try this

[rich fossil]

I already did but my pulls been soo bad

[keen vapor]

Anchor.....

[hollow lagoon]

My team that makes people cringe

why the redhood

[keen vapor]

Just Noise

[hollow lagoon]

But more damage

[keen vapor]

Noise is more damage

[hollow lagoon]

Could honestly go rouge too

[lusty pelican]

can i ask for SPA team for this def lineup?
also can i ask for some SP def lineups

[hollow lagoon]

U mean u wanna kill it?

[lusty pelican]

yup

[hollow lagoon]

Team 1 looks like easy scarlet wipe

[keen vapor]

Anchor is also more damage

[lusty pelican]

ok let me try

i have like 1 attempt left tho

[hollow lagoon]

Team 2 also looks easy wipe

[lusty pelican]

may i have teams plzz 🙏

[rich fossil]

I just did two pulls got laplace and D this is my wishlist now

[hollow lagoon]

idk I fought a mirror team last CA with noise instead of hood and my hood version won

[keen vapor]

Scarlet Trina Siren Centi Jackal

noise/Noah/Cinderella/Helm/uuuuhhhh Rumani or anis

[hollow lagoon]

Eunhwa on wishlist? Ur bold

[lusty pelican]

arigathanks homie

[keen vapor]

I had to wishlist Yuni, don't laugh

[lusty pelican]

for team 1 and 2 right?

[keen vapor]

Yeh

[lusty pelican]

[rich fossil]

anything to break the wall

[hollow lagoon]

I wish listed normal D

[lunar pawn]

#pvp-arena message thoughts guys?

[keen vapor]

D is cool ; pepeh:

[rich fossil]

me who just got her I can agree

[keen vapor]

How Blanc emi team will lose to Summer Anis team?

[hollow lagoon]

Well I take units off once I gotten mlb

[rich fossil]

@keen vapor you think I can take off Alice and put someone else since I'm already getting her from pity

[keen vapor]

Ah, Helm Indom,I get it now

[hollow lagoon]

Now I’m wish listing deisel in advance

[keen vapor]

I would
Elysion: not wishlist Marciana/Phantom
Tetra: replace 2 out of these (bunny Alice, Bready, Nero). I know you want waifu but you need strong units as well, so only gonna allow one waifu
Pilgrim: No one uses Doro

[covert lintel]

Top win 3

[lunar pawn]

elaborate

[lusty pelican]

tysm

[hollow lagoon]

But I luv my phantom

[hollow lagoon]

I use doro

[keen vapor]

I'm thinking attacker loses basically every match not Anis against Rosanna

[keen vapor]

Third win? where did that come from

[keen vapor]

[lusty pelican]

i umm scrolled up and copied someones team

[hollow lagoon]

Sbs burst can prob stall it with a helm t Moran comp

[lusty pelican]

this one but rumani change to anis og

[hollow lagoon]

You guys with Emilia

[lusty pelican]

yea but im missing makima and xanne

[hollow lagoon]

Atleast I’m not dealing with people with Emilia

[lunar pawn]

mmm in t2 he has a whole RL in advantage, so he should be able to nuke before blanc indom

[lusty pelican]

yea emi is great but she ate lots of rocks trying to get good CS

[hollow lagoon]

My bracket is not at a point where rolling CS is a thing yet

Unless they whale harder than me but Eah

[upper magnet]

hi, I'm looking for some advice on SP Arena. i got some new pvp nikke like scarlet , rei ,rumani. is there any substitution?

[covert lintel]

Same as you but p5 win
Bsoda will die early due to siren auto and scar s2, then that accelerated rosanna to snipe scarlet causing their team not entered b3/full burst

[rich fossil]

in elysion I'm only missing these

[hollow lagoon]

Have Trina?

[keen vapor]

T1 helm Indom, lose
T2 ok win, 2 RL easy win
T3 I'm thinking Summer Anis should be able to life steal and win
T4 Noise ain't surviving this one, also that Cindy P2 very detrimental
T5 I forgot, Rosanna cuts Trina immunity ?

[upper magnet]

my box now

[rich fossil]

with who tho should I replace them with I heard bunny Alice is not bad

[upper magnet]

not yet

[hollow lagoon]

Bunny Alice is falling off now

[keen vapor]

[rich fossil]

damn okay so who is meta nowadays in pvp that I need

[hollow lagoon]

PvP? Nah bunny Alice don’t belong there

[keen vapor]

Is not about missing, is about getting stronger (ok)

[hollow lagoon]

Just listen to @keen vapor , I’m a whale why are u asking me

[rich fossil]

okay wait let me improve it

[hollow lagoon]

@rich fossil My PvP def team of pure cringe and disgust for your reference, if you try to build this you will have great pve success

[rich fossil]

my f2p heart can't take this

[rich fossil]

so then who I need to get stronger I mean elysion doesn't have that much meta characters

[hollow lagoon]

Elysion have many good units now

Maid anchor and mast

[lunar pawn]

rosanna usually can't remove trina immunity due to the compound of buffs on scarlet, regardless, scar will eat rosanna up with s2, and even if she doesn't die, should be able to nuke before rosanna bursts

[keen vapor]

More bunny soda dupes, Bay Moran, rumani

[rich fossil]

I got maid mast missing mast tho but she in my wishlist

[hollow lagoon]

Maid mast is the good mast

[keen vapor]

Right so attacker wins

[lunar pawn]

loses

[keen vapor]

3 wins

[lunar pawn]

3 losses

[keen vapor]

2,3 and last

[keen vapor]

summer anis can do this

[hollow lagoon]

@rich fossil feels like you should work on pve units first then u can work with PvP units, its not like you are starved of the resources arena shop gives at the moment

[keen vapor]

Good advice

[hollow lagoon]

If it’s just elemental code, Drake event just gave a bunch

[lunar pawn]

2RL uses b3 before 3RL can b1

[keen vapor]

I don't recommend PVP for one year retirement

[rich fossil]

my pve team is good tho right

[hollow lagoon]

Hay man’s got siren+crown good skeleton to fill units in

[rich fossil]

this is my final product

[keen vapor]

In my experience, 2 RL B3 happens at the same time as 3 RL B1

[rich fossil]

exactly they be carrying me

[lunar pawn]

[keen vapor]

In my experience

[hollow lagoon]

Alice demands manual play to hit potential, recommend something different if u can’t tap like a god

[lunar pawn]

feels like at the same time since it's a small window

[rich fossil]

oh yeah ik dw I be playing on pc most of the time when I be pushing campaign

[keen vapor]

So, what match it'll affect?

[lunar pawn]

5th

[hollow lagoon]

Naga is not the best unit for SBS cuz she has issues hitting core, would recommend swapping for treasure helm, but that’s too early for you at the moment

[lunar pawn]

I mean, alice is the core hitting malder, crown+naga isn't a bad combo

[rich fossil]

yeah I still need two copies for helm but I will get them

[hollow lagoon]

But Alice and sbs is solid synergizing comp, but siren is not exactly the best b1 for them

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah, he’s got solid team for f2p

[keen vapor]

ok, attacker defeated

[hollow lagoon]

Like he can be better, but not THAT much better

[rich fossil]

you think liter will be better

[hollow lagoon]

Ur talking to a man with barely invested liter at the moment

[keen vapor]

My Liter has phase 14 elemental line

[lunar pawn]

the 1st cheering isn't too bad, just defines what frame I'll try to go for

[hollow lagoon]

My liter has level 0 orange gear

[keen vapor]

So whale

[rich fossil]

I know maybe I'm looking too far I haven't even opened anomaly interception yet

[hollow lagoon]

And is 6/6/6

[keen vapor]

Indeed

[keen vapor]

[lunar pawn]

why is liter's s2 above lvl 4?

[rich fossil]

I will just stick to pvp for now

[keen vapor]

reroll

[hollow lagoon]

Padded some cp when I needed it

[lunar pawn]

[rich fossil]

[hollow lagoon]

Breh if u had 3 bars of mother whale hp left u do what u gotta do

[keen vapor]

you're a year below your bracket

[rich fossil]

if I reroll I will probably quit mid game again so we just gotta thug it out

[keen vapor]

And your progress (chapter 21) is that of one month

[lunar pawn]

[rich fossil]

better days are coming

[hollow lagoon]

Would not reroll, imagine trying to get crown and Siren, just join a union that gets champ arena rewards and get passive arena token income

[keen vapor]

Please enjoy Miracle Snow event

[rich fossil]

but like I'm just missing gear and skill investment I have the units

[keen vapor]

you're missing levels

[rich fossil]

I'm 2 copies away from 5mlb the wait almost over

[keen vapor]

And Red Ash

[rich fossil]

yeah exactly I got crown and sbs and siren and mod I aint rerolling

[rich fossil]

wish I could hop on CN servers

[hollow lagoon]

CN server have white naga

[rich fossil]

okay I don't want anymore

[hollow lagoon]

I prefer the chocolaty naga we have now

[rich fossil]

and noir?

[hollow lagoon]

Dosnt exist yet

Bunnies prob too sexual for Chinese, ur gonna see them nerfed

[rich fossil]

they can't do that to my wifu she perfect chocolate colour

[hollow lagoon]

I’m a fan of nois skin tone, even tho I also like them paler girls like Cinderella and phantom

[rich fossil]

they get more rewards but that's the price ig

[keen vapor]

How was BA in China again?

[hollow lagoon]

Apparantally story is also heavily censored

[hollow lagoon]

Ba?

[keen vapor]

Blue Archive

[hollow lagoon]

NIKKE is my only gatcha

[keen vapor]

:deadge: the only good thing

[hollow lagoon]

1harem is all I need

[keen vapor]

Same

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/helm-helm-nikke-nikke-gov-nikke-gif-815249794909786849

But man helm

My savior

My beloved

[rich fossil]

this is soo real

I never played any wifu games except nikke I used to play genshin but quit long ago

[rich fossil]

their dev notes were soo bad considering the drama was all about CN advantages

they redirected it saying they gonna be different

[hollow lagoon]

I didn’t dominate my bracket until my helm was treasure. I was the first in my bracket with treasure helm, I proceeded to blast all the other commanders above me so hard they went into the nether realm (they quit)

[covert lintel]

[keen vapor]

They were bad yeah
Their game still bad

[rich fossil]

I just want the 100%ssr manufacture molds I just lost my tetra mold

like why is that even a thing

[hollow lagoon]

I rather have shittier molds than censored story and forced skin tone shift of dark skinned girls

[hollow lagoon]

I lost pilgrim mold 2-3 times

[rich fossil]

I would go insane

[keen vapor]

They don't have 100% SSR mold

They have pity mold

[hollow lagoon]

Speaking of pilgrim mold

[keen vapor]

It's not

[rich fossil]

the manufacturer molds from tower are guaranteed tho

I saw a tweet

[keen vapor]

It's not

Again, pity

[rich fossil]

got it

[keen vapor]

Most of this drama is a "broken phone" consequence

[hollow lagoon]

Me shrug, molds come slow enough that it’s not a significant income of units for me, but I am a good sized whale

[rich fossil]

if I'm gonna spend money on this game will only be gache skins pass

[hollow lagoon]

But the deal breaker for me is the censored story and dark skinned girls, I do prefer fair skinned girls more but man naga lost half her charm with the nerf

[rich fossil]

you mean the loading time even on pc its not that fast

[rich fossil]

I agree I wanted to mlb naga just for the wallpaper but gotta wait for that

[hollow lagoon]

@rich fossil look what they did to our girl

[keen vapor]

It's not normal to load fast when it's missing 90% of the content?

[keen vapor]

I doubt these are official

[rich fossil]

I cant look at this

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

I doubt too, but me shrug

[keen vapor]

Then don't spread as if it was official :pepeh:

Teach him Rosy

[hollow lagoon]

Idk I got it from Reddit, asked my friend if Tis fake he said no, I’m like well wtf CN is L

[umbral crown]

what do i need to teach?

[keen vapor]

Pepeh him

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Why a blindly image will be official? :pepeh:

[covert lintel]

For anis overspec next year

[hollow lagoon]

Idk but I did a calc and redhood burst1 gib more dmg than noise, your losing credibility for me atm

[hollow lagoon]

[keen vapor]

Invest noise more

[umbral crown]

Ram lb0

[hollow lagoon]

Hard ask I can also invest redhood more

[umbral crown]

Not gonna give you Re Zero rerun

It will get a 4rd season next year so lets hope for the copium

Emi gacha skin rerun

[keen vapor]

[covert lintel]

New char priscilla?

[umbral crown]

Works for me

[hollow lagoon]

Still less if I phantom gib noise max skill level also didn’t take into account of other hp modifiers Cinderella gets which dilute noise buff

[keen vapor]

Phantom?

[umbral crown]

Phantom cooking?

[covert lintel]

Priscilla and beako high possibility if they do another collab

[umbral crown]

I would whale for pris red skin

[hollow lagoon]

The act of calculating with a maxed noise while not having a maxed noise

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

Does Cinderella burst get the HP to atk modifier of her skill1? I recall Skyjlv mentioning she does not but I could be wrong

Prydwen info seems to indicate it does

[crystal flicker]

Just like how Blanc bypass Glass Rapture, she also bypass dmg red lol
It's 95% DMG Red on Nero though

[jagged mesa]

Hold on wdym blanc bypasses glass Rapture

Is there some forbidden tech I don't know about

[placid bloom]

glasses have 99.99% damage reduction (close to 100% basically), damage taken debuff directly counters that. So 39% damage taken debuff brings their reduction down to ~61%

[jagged mesa]

Seriously? That's how they're coded?

No wonder my siren teams seem to do like 800 damage per hit to glasses

It makes sense now

So damage taken > glasses
Dorothy > mother whale adds
Sbs > volleyball

Idk what other hitcount mobs have special interactions

[umbral crown]

@polar echo you C9

Pelg wants to taste CA

[royal plaza]

how is this for Rookie def? I'm trying to build a 2RL since its probs the best shot catching a couple of unexperienced attackers

[umbral crown]

give a try

[atomic wolf]

brightness 400%

[keen vapor]

No buff Scarlet ends bad

[royal plaza]

suggestions? i got all ssr btw

[keen vapor]

Check list on pinned FAQ

[royal plaza]

how about this for rookie def?

[keen vapor]

Better

[wise horizon]

Think my T3 won’t last but I might be wrong

[keen vapor]

Your Scarlet has no ammo?

[wise horizon]

One ammo line

[keen vapor]

Uuuuhhhh, Indom vs Indom is generally not a good idea

[crystal flicker]

I have Scarlet vs Siren yesterday, but She died from counter lol

[wise horizon]

Yeah I agree. I generally don’t like hitting indom

And don’t have Trina to help scarlet

[keen vapor]

I rather go Scarlet vs Scarlet

And Noah Biscuit Summer anis Helm Siren against his Noah team

[keen vapor]

You don't need her

SG feed will speed you up

[crystal flicker]

Need low ammo line unless you put Jackal at p1

[keen vapor]

But we shouldn't fight that team anyways

[wise horizon]

Using the same Scarlet team (scarlet, laplaceT, Blanc, centi, jackal)?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[wise horizon]

@keen vapor thanks! Now for my defense to hold

[keen vapor]

Defending my MA role

[wicked horizon]

Siren won't stun fast enough.

I don't think it's possible to stop a 2RL team from bursting if they have a B1 on P1.

[swift mango]

They look barely invested. No enough investment and no enough CS to catch your Ein that got fed to 2rl with their Moran

[placid bloom]

your Siren is wrong spot so she didn't get taunted by Noah.

she needs to be p1/2

[wicked horizon]

She'd only get taunted after the first rocket hit.

[placid bloom]

no point of her shooting at Jackal, she needs to shoot Noah

[swift mango]

They had CS, couldn't be helped. Could go with 2rl S.Anis if you had her.

other wise just go with 5rl cindy.

[placid bloom]

doesn't matter, only matters who the 50th bullet lands on, not all 50 have to connect on the same target

[wicked horizon]

🤨

[wicked horizon]

That is unintuitive as fk.

[umbral belfry]

noah didn't taunt siren due to siren not being in p1/p2 yeah

if it's otherwise she will always stun p1

might be trickier for you though since she's unlinked

[wicked horizon]

I hate you guys.

[umbral belfry]

what we do 😭

[umbral belfry]

did you make the proper changes?

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

looks like their Noah really might have 11%+ CS then

[umbral crown]

you need noah to block helm

so they do not lifesteal

[wicked horizon]

I need Noah to not burst.

I tried Cinderella, I tried SAnis.

Nothing beats this team.

[umbral belfry]

🥤

[umbral crown]

soda will need OL

[wicked horizon]

idk, I'll try mirroring the team or sth.

I'm higher CP, I should win.

[umbral crown]

you have emi?

[wicked horizon]

No

[umbral crown]

enemy team is 2 RL so instant nukes not gonna work at all

stunning jackal did not work i guess

[wicked horizon]

Jackal stun was late, and so was Noah stun, somehow.

[umbral crown]

Noah/Biscuit/S.Anis/HelmT/Jackal might work, you will block helm lifesteal so the damage should not be that high

[wicked horizon]

So far I have 2 losses, 1 win with that team. (I used Rumani instead of Jackal, but it shouldn't change anything.)

[umbral crown]

its rookie, you will be fine

you will get experience

[wicked horizon]

Experience?

[umbral crown]

yeah

[wicked horizon]

I don't understand.

[jagged mesa]

knawlidge

[umbral crown]

you will get the knowlegde

[keen vapor]

You're learning

[umbral crown]

to fight similar teams and how to make your teams

[wicked horizon]

Okay, but, I already tried the team you suggested and it's so far leaning on the losing side.

[jagged mesa]

knawlidge

for the internet boomers

[umbral crown]

oh

[wicked horizon]

I mean, maybe Emi could beat it, but otherwise, that looks like an unbeatable team.

Best case scenario is a coinflip.

[umbral crown]

rosanna another option but probably you do not have her built

[wicked horizon]

How would removing the Jackal link help me in theory?

That's not even it, is it.

[umbral crown]

its not just removing link, its more about her burst

she could nuke helm and scarlet

[wicked horizon]

But they're invulnerable?

[umbral crown]

but need high investment for that

[compact hazel]

any tips on how to beat these teams?

[umbral crown]

against rosanna they are

[placid bloom]

well the only way you are stopping Noah is with Soda

[wicked horizon]

Soda?

[placid bloom]

Rosanna needs to be pretty strong to kill Scarlet from near full HP since she's not getting shot at in p4 and Jackal link will be dispelled

[keen vapor]

Soda stuns

Soda my beloved

[wicked horizon]

Soda's stun is going to reach in time?

"2 randomly", oh boy.

[jagged mesa]

kuwon actually explained to me earlier that the taunt ensures the stun isnt random

[wicked horizon]

Okay, fair enough.

[jagged mesa]

and soda is b1 so she fires off before b2 noah

assuming you're both 2rl that is

[wicked horizon]

That's crazy.
But having a solid DPS and Soda and still being 2 RL is also crazy.

Because they're still going to burst, just not with Noah then.

[wicked horizon]

I don't get this either.

Their team will be invulnerable, no? No amount of damage will kill anyone after we have both bursted?

[jagged mesa]

yeah but if they burst without noah, you nuke them

[placid bloom]

Soda and Rosanna are B1. Soda will stun Noah at B1 before she can cast B2, or Rosanna will kill Helm + Scarlet before Noah can cast B2

[jagged mesa]

cant out-sustain a one shot

[placid bloom]

but Soda will die to Scarlet s2 counter if you don't have investment on her

and Rosanna cannot do lethal damage without investment

[wicked horizon]

Great

[warped cedar]

I dont want to let my PvP units fall behind, but I also have doll for other units I want to level 1st, how big is getting like SR5 for supporting PvP units like Centi and Trina?

[placid bloom]

this is not even that crazy though, they are Jackal linked so if you go 2RL Helm nuke you will kill both their B3s with Helm and still have flex spot for Soda to stun Noah. Only thing that matters is if you have Noah to block their nuke so you can finish their Jackal/Noah/Biscuit after killing their B3s, because if your Helm gets nuked by their Helm it's gonna be messy.

[swift mango]

I could beat it with 5rl cindy easily enough

[thin perch]

On almost every SP defense team, I see these two 2rl nuke teams. Can you make 2 teams to beat both of these on attack? If not Noah what else counters these?

[crystal flicker]

I assure you that not the case, HelmT and Rapunzel has enough CS to make the team 2.7RL, making Moran burst at 3.02RL, while Ein burst at 3.16RL

[swift mango]

noah + biscuit + Emi + rh + helmt

[thin perch]

Noah can easily gurantee a win against one of these but what if I wanted to beat one without Noah?

[umbral belfry]

Helps their survivability but imo there's other priorities for dolls (but would be nice to have)

[ocean vapor]

siren + nuke the 1st one then noah the 2nd team, is my guess. or can use a blanc set up on one team and noah in 2nd team

[swift mango]

okay, my bad ein hit after moran.

I was half asleep when I watched it the first time

[thin perch]

How quickly does Siren stun?

[wicked horizon]

Just after the 2RL mark, at about 2.5s I think?

[thin perch]

What is a siren team that stops a 2rl nuke?

[crystal flicker]

Pure dmg & Blanc making 95% dmg red down to ~55% ish

[swift mango]

well blanc counter moran anyway.

[wicked horizon]

Unless you somehow manage to target their only B2 or the nuker, I don't think Siren will do much to help.

[swift mango]

their blanc doesn't even have doll, I doubt it's s3lv10, at best s3lv5

[ocean vapor]

it a p1 noah, just put siren in p3-p5

so noise doesnt have a chance to taunt

[wicked horizon]

Then Centi bursts. 🤷

[thin perch]

So if the defender uses 2 2rl nuke teams, then there is no way to beat both?

[wicked horizon]

Still get hit by nuke.

[crystal flicker]

Yeah, 10 feathers hit hard lol

If it only single Nuke, it'll easily countered

[wicked horizon]

There's more units besides Noah who have invulnerability or enough damage resistance via some mechanic to tank a nuke.

Or you could just do your own 2RL nuke and flip a coin.

[thin perch]

This one guy keeps trolling me with these teams he uses for attack and defense and I wanna build a defense to force him to change comp

[placid bloom]

you can beat both.

it just depends on how the resources are split

[swift mango]

time to max doll nero, rapu and max rapu heal skill.

is your moran s3lv10?

but just accept you got countered anyway

[thin perch]

Can any Moran Biscuit SAnis team without Noah beat a 2rl nuke?

[crystal flicker]

Max Doll so expensive

[swift mango]

invest in soda

[placid bloom]

if they are no buff/single buff nuke, if they are double buff nuke it's hard

[crystal flicker]

Stall comp can beat 2RL Nuke, but needs Nero Moran with huge investment

[thin perch]

Nero really?

[wicked horizon]

PvP units are weird.

[thin perch]

Biscuit and Moran is not enough?

[placid bloom]

Moran might not die but the rest of your team can if enemy nuke is double buffed

and Moran can't always clean up unless your Moran is insanely jacked

[wicked horizon]

How about Blanc?

[placid bloom]

2RL Blanc can work into 2RL nuke if they don't have a way to block your dps

[wicked horizon]

I've always found Blanc targetting to be finnicky, but other than that, you can do a lot of damage in 10 seconds.

[thin perch]

What exactly is a double buff vs a single buff nuke referring to?

[placid bloom]

if they have RH B1 > Trina B2 > Scarlet, that is double buff

[wicked horizon]

How many units buffed the unit doing the nuke.

[thin perch]

Ah

[placid bloom]

if they have just Jackal B1 > Trina > Scarlet that is single buff

if for some reason they are on Noah B2 or some defensive option that is no buff

[thin perch]

What about Noah, Centi, Cindy, Helm, Noise?

[placid bloom]

that would be single buff for Cinderella because she scales off Noise HP buff on burst

[crystal flicker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjyNYUhVesA

[placid bloom]

but Cinderella naturally does high damage even without buffs compared to Scarlet

so she can kill with less

[umbral belfry]

Nora

[placid bloom]

no buff Cinderella can be tanked by 2RL Moran, with Noise it's harder to say. It will depend on their invest

[thin perch]

Could this work?

[placid bloom]

thing is your Emilia is always dying because water

[wicked horizon]

I wouldn't bet on it.

[crystal flicker]

no

[placid bloom]

so your SAnis needs to survive

so it's hard to say

I don't think it's in your favor though

especially since your Biscuit proc is gonna be split between Moran and Rumani

so it's only gonna last half as long

[crystal flicker]

Not to mention SAnis lost dmg due to Noah taunt

[thin perch]

Could blanc help?

[placid bloom]

2RL Blanc beats this because they have no Biscuit for their Noah

[crystal flicker]

You need 2RL Blanc (or atleast 2.5RL)

[placid bloom]

you can shred them once the invin runs out

[wicked horizon]

You could also try not going against that team?
Can't nuke their third team yourself?

[placid bloom]

if they had Noah Biscuit then it'd be way harder, but this team is super easy

[thin perch]

I know but I wanna figure out a counter that isn’t traditional

[placid bloom]

only way you lose this with 2RL Blanc is if you are getting CP gapped

[wicked horizon]

How does one target Blanc indom though. 🤔

[placid bloom]

in this case you just need to put whoever you want to have indom in p1 and Blanc in p2

because Helm alone cannot kill p1 at 2RL

and Cinderella will have defender stats until B3

so your p1 can never die at 2RL unless CP gapped

for other matchups it will change depending on who is hitting where and how hard

Jackal link and vigor cube can be used to control Blanc target if you really need to

[thin perch]

I recently changed to try out this new defense SP team but I feel like I’m losing a bit more now. How are people countering these teams? Should I go back to a double 2rl nuke and SAnis comp for defense?

[placid bloom]

if your old setup is holding better then use that.

better to use a set up that walls 2 people and loses to 1 than make a set up that wins against that 1 guy but loses to the other 2

after that it's just a matter of managing your log in schedule to maintain the position optimally

that's the real battle

[cunning steppe]

My defense started losing too pretty sure it’s Siren fault

[thin perch]

What are some good shotgun teams?

Is there anyone I can replace help with here

[swift mango]

sg doesn't work well in attacking this team but you could try.

it's also important to note whether noise steal taunt or Noah steal it...

[raven cairn]

dont know much about pvp, what are some good defence teams i can use for sp arena

[thin perch]

Can someone explain the dangers of using Noah and Noise on the same team? And if not Noah what other teams would noise be on?

Bro I have so many pvp questions 😭

Can this team survive a 2rl nuke or is it too slow?

[swift mango]

it can survive by face tanking or Biscuit triggered on Noah+Cindy but it's slow and not 2rl

[thin perch]

Would noise survive to burst if it got hit by scarlet?

And should I move Cindy to p2?

[onyx scaffold]

but why

[onyx scaffold]

do u know how slow your team is?

[thin perch]

So Cindy gets the invuln?

3rl

[onyx scaffold]

ok. 3RL means enemy 2RL can burst before your noah shield setup

then it depends on how strong enemy scarlet is

if scarlet is buffed by trina redhood

noise will be killed

what is this team? def or atk?

[thin perch]

It’s defense. I’m shifting some teams around and I’m tryna see if I can have a a non-2rl Cindy team so I can put my helm elsewhere

Is there a good Cindy team without Helm?

[onyx scaffold]

[thin perch]

Are those 2rl or 2.5?

[onyx scaffold]

3rl

u need charge speed

[thin perch]

Do you think this could survive a 2rl nuke and still burst?

[onyx scaffold]

likely

actually

maybe the data was from a guy with % charge speed

[thin perch]

Would Rumani be invuln?

[onyx scaffold]

nvm

lemme check my L match

[swift mango]

I'm so hitable now.

[thin perch]

Chat is my my team dead? 😛

[onyx scaffold]

my weak ass scarlet failed to nuke and lost 🤔

but that cindy team is indeed a good team without helm

[thin perch]

Pascal?

[swift mango]

Scar 101010

Trina 101010

?

[thin perch]

What if scarlet is double buffed?

[swift mango]

100% win

[thin perch]

Yeah I’m cooked

[onyx scaffold]

scar 1077
trina 4107

😭

[thin perch]

Does having 2 2rl nukes on attack mean the attacker wins everytime bruh?😭

[onyx scaffold]

no?

because u can also run 2rl nuke on def

with noah / blanc

[thin perch]

What I need are 2 teams on defense that will not lose to either of these:

[swift mango]

Did Cindy trigger Biscuit before you wipe?

[onyx scaffold]

only noise took dmg

[umbral crown]

♧♧♧ SP Defense ♧♧♧
Scarlet/DrakeT/Trina/Red Hood/Jackal

SBS/Blanc/Rapipi/Bunny Soda/Centi

Noise/Noah/Cinderella/HelmT/LaplaceT

[atomic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-10758471661434860821

IMAGINE HAVING NOISE

[thin perch]

Is there a slower than 2rl team that can survive both of these?

[raven cairn]

thanks

[onyx scaffold]

i think this team can

dont use wingman

[thin perch]

Could you use SAnis for that comp instead of Scatler

[onyx scaffold]

s.anis will kill herself when hitting scarlet

unless u have sr15 doll and high level of tempering cube

[thin perch]

This is my SAnis, 10/10/10, and resilience cube

[onyx scaffold]

sync 440

enemy 468

[thin perch]

It’s not low enough for a stat penalty I don’t think

[winged geyser]

Hello specialist of arena, i need to know what's happened to my Emilia burst ?
she missed or its blocked by somethings i don't know ?
because, I saw that it touched the "covers"

https://youtu.be/2WqDJ0rwIGg?si=2IMEhNrujEVFuY1D&t=359

[rich fiber]

Emilia's burst hits both HP and cover, so that wouldn't be the problem.

[fresh moss]

i copied something online for SP arena def but im open to suggestions if this is not good, I got all SSR besides Mana

[swift mango]

Got blocked by Noah.

[crystal flicker]

Make sure you have extra CS on T1
T2 change order to Noise Noah Cindy HelmT Centi, otherwise that team easily countered by Siren
T3 how many ammo lines your Scarlet have?

[rich fiber]

@winged geyser I think the enemies noah died a split second before your Emilia's rocket hit her. Since her burst rocket didn't hit anything it failed to explode and hit the rest of their team.

[swift mango]

it hit and cause the covers to die

[fresh moss]

4x

[swift mango]

it just got block by left over noah 3 sec

[crystal flicker]

4x of Scarlet ammo lines?

[rich fiber]

Ahhh emilia was too fast then

[crystal flicker]

Put Jackal to P1

[umbral crown]

[winged geyser]

Rofl seriously

[umbral crown]

if you see these teams losing a lot, ask again and we can rebuild them

[winged geyser]

I'm pretty sure we have the same RL

[fresh moss]

edit: nvm i got it

[swift mango]

That Cindy team is 3rl

could be faster defending on cs ofc but not natural 2rl

while yours is

[winged geyser]

I see, unlucky I'm busting too fast
Thanks for responses

[thin perch]

Can you all build me any 2 defense teams that win against both of these teams attack teams?

I’ve been thinking about it for hours and I can’t think of teams that will win against both

[swift mango]

Noah bis HelmT RH Emi

[thin perch]

What the sigma

[swift mango]

That's the rookie team that I'm using since helmT released and many peeps copied it already.

Or just use 2rl Emi.

Core dust cost increases by 1000 every 50 lv.

[thin perch]

Also is SAnis actually worth using in pvp anymore? I keep trying to make her work but she keeps losing on most team comps I make with her

What is the percentage on the deck builder RL units?

[daring gust]

Hello i have question. If ssakura die, will her DOT skill still deal damage?

[calm gull]

her dot still applies until the debuff time runs out

[tight lantern]

is it ok to leave Centi at SR0 for pvp?

[daring gust]

[calm gull]

you can but best to max R dolls first then switch to SR dolls

efficient purposes

[stiff oasis]

Destroy?

[wise horizon]

did you put your defense as follows:
Blanc/SBS/Biscuit/Emilia/Rumani
Noise/Noah/Cinderella/HelmT/Centi
Jackal/Scarlet/Trina/XMaiden/LaplaceT

[thin perch]

Does Emilia need red hood and blanc to team wipe?

I wanna make an 2rl Emilia nuke without helm

[swift mango]

My 14th Sr15... Someone who's not for Arena again....

At least she wasn't super expensive...

I wish I could reset my Alice doll and get a 30% refund...

[thin perch]

Can Emilia nuke without redhood in b1 or is there another buffer for her?

[swift mango]

she could nuke with just one buffer, mirandaT

[thin perch]

Blanc is already buffing her

[swift mango]

I could never be true pvper like @umbral crown

[swift mango]

If you want her to one buffer with just blanc, you might need 50% ATK from her OL

and she at least MLB

[thin perch]

Ah I see

[swift mango]

101010 skill ofc

blanc also x x10

[thin perch]

Also on the deck builder what does the 17% on the bottom left of the unit icon mean?

[swift mango]

charge speed

[thin perch]

Oh so you can roll for charge speed on OL to achieve that?

[stiff oasis]

Help

[swift mango]

yes.... just read guide if you don't know about everything

[swift mango]

You lose if without deficit but you are 27% above them... just hit auto in team maker and you would 100% win.

[stiff oasis]

What team should I use then?

[thin perch]

I’ve been using a burst gen calculator that didn’t include the charge speed for any RL character

[swift mango]

just hit auto team and you would win with auto attack

[stiff oasis]

Ok bet

[spiral onyx]

Yong (atk) vs Keripo (def)

[atomic wolf]

bet this

[vague slate]

Do you default assume they have 17cs

[spiral onyx]

• T1 Keripo win, Yong's team is too slow and my Noah actually B2s before Siren stun
• T2 Keripo win, Blanc immunity will keep Scarlet alive and let her solo their team in the case they don't die from nuke
• T3 Investment check to see if their Cindy can kill my SAnis or not
• T4 Investment check, my Cindy will get blocked by Blanc but his Emilia is 0LB so might not be able to actually kill anyone
• T5 Keripo win, my team is on defence so I will be hitting and killing their BSoda probably before they kill my Drake. Might have been a different story is they were on defence instead

[spiral onyx]

Yes, always best to assume your opponent is optimized, even if they aren't

Better to be pleasantly surprised than disappointedly surprised

Overall predicting a 4-1 or 5-0 win, worst case scenario a 3-2 win

[onyx scaffold]

could u tell how to avoid stun with that noah team? someone told me 11% cs min for everyone but your rh has like 7% cs

[swift mango]

You are on DEF so you will hit p5... and makima is on p5.

[spiral onyx]

Oh fk, I derped. RIP me. T5 is a maybe loss then

Actually, not necessarily. If they kill someone before me, my Rosanna can still nuke them and turn the fight around

[swift mango]

T2 is also investment check to whether Rossana can one shot your Scarlet...

[stiff oasis]

It worked btw!
Thank you!

[dim escarp]

Cinderella eating good

[spiral onyx]

there's still a good chance I can win with my Rosanna nuke + BSoda nuke

[spiral onyx]

Not with Jackal link

Jackal link and Rapunzel heal

[spiral onyx]

Ballsy move not locking the 3rd line but very nice luck

[swift mango]

Rossana breaks the link... rapu could heal your Scarlet to max yeah.... and even stun

[spiral onyx]

It depends on the slowest limiting unit, which may not be RH.

[dim escarp]

nono it was locked dw (just not with a blue lock)

[spiral onyx]

oh right, Rosanna breaks Jackal link. Rapunzel now gets less damage share and has a higher chance of hitting 30% HP on burst

[dim escarp]

now cind got 100+ ele and 52atk

[vague slate]

Respect

[pearl fractal]

give me the best team for rookie arena

[ripe merlin]

My current roster of decently built units atm, good team defense suggestions for SP Arena?

Power ranging from 310k to 135k

[thin perch]

For Emilia’s 21% charge speed does the the charge speed increase from S1 count twice since it’s per round and you are trying to make a 2rl team?

[calm gull]

#pvp-arena message

eh wrong ping

@ripe merlin

[frank elk]

who can I run instead of makima in this team?

was thinking Moran but wanted to see if others had any ideas

[calm gull]

its very outdated team comp

[frank elk]

ah damn

[tropic summit]

get jackal syncro'ed and invested, you also seem to lack noah, those 2 generally make the most decent 2RL rookie teams
keep in mind there's no unbeatable team

for the time being run either of these 2 (change it if it loses):

centi trina cind RH helmT
blanc scarlet biscuit helmT RH

[tropic summit]

SParena:
noise centi cind helmt rumani
scarlet bsoda trina rh jackal
noah biscuit siren sbs drake

Cubes:
quantum on bsoda, trina, jackal
vigor on noise, biscuit
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

Notes:
consider investing/building rosanna ( 7/10/10 SR15 30-40atk%)
consider building siren to have enough atk% to be linked in scarlet team, so she can be used in p1 or p2 to counter noah
raise CP on your utilities

[frank elk]

who do you swap out in the scarlet team for siren?

[onyx scaffold]

People attack me cuz im weaker than bots

[frank elk]

scratch that im dumb

[dire root]

How? Oh it's a cheater

So does Star automatically win? Unless there is a legit way you are level 1 and in CA.

[spiral onyx]

That's a bot

[dire root]

Bot?

[spiral onyx]

For people in servers that don't have enough participants

[dire root]

Oh

[summer copper]

is the bot strong?

[dire root]

What if a bot won CA?

The rise of the machines

[spiral onyx]

The number of servers in existence aren't always a perfect exponential of 2. So the very last CA server will probably be padded with bot accounts

[spiral onyx]

I mean, it looks like at least 2 people voted for the bot lol

[dire root]

Probably want to lose. lol I don't even have to look at stars teams.

there is no shot Star loses.

he would have to be so bad.

Getting put up against a bot is free win it looks like.

[onyx scaffold]

technically if someone is lucky, he can do 100% fight with bots and win CA

[swift mango]

A bracket full of bots?

So much casual in NA lower bracket that bot got to top 64

[swift mango]

Not way a CA bracket is that death... it's not about luck anymore, it's about everyone giving up with 1 nikke per team

[onyx scaffold]

nah i mean situation when someone is at a verge of the CA group

well he might need to win his group 4 first

[shell hazel]

they could remove the bots by simply ranking players by points gained and taking top n

it removes the absolute 1-4 thing but I think it would basically be that at a minimum? so some overflow of chal 5 etc getting added, but 1-4 would always get in type of deal

[snow kraken]

Should also just make it top 10, so even a few non whales can get in

[umbral crown]

☆☆☆ SP Defense ☆☆☆
Noise/Noah/Cinderella/HelmT/Siren

Scarlet/Blanc/Red Hood/Noir/Jackal

Rapunzel/Biscuit/S.Anis/Emilia/Centi

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

Let's say you have 800 people who are 1-4 in SPA, but your CA brackets are 256 people each.

800 / 256 = 3.125.

Here you can either equally share the contenders among the brackets and fill the rest with bots. This would be 200 real people per 256 CA bracket with 56 bots each one.

Or you could round up the 3.125 to 4, which means you need 4 * 256 = 1024 contentders. We have 800 from SPA 1-4 so another 224 are required.

Rank the players across all SPA 5 challengers by points, and then add the top 224. This means no bots and some chal 5's get in. People who are 1-4 always get in, but the padding is done using the next highest ranked people.```

[swift mango]

Too much effort SU won't give.

[shell hazel]

this type of logic lets you create additional brackets or w/e as you want, just rank all players and assign out, I think most would agree that real people competing is better than bots

[cedar orbit]

scammed

does your account level determine who gets through?

[onyx scaffold]

Nah. Dont put bots in my bracket. It just makes my bracket more rng.

I dont care about the low level guys getting CA for being lucky

[swift mango]

Glad I never needed to worry about tier breaker.

[shell hazel]

this happened to me also btw

[onyx scaffold]

No

[shell hazel]

I suspect guy in 3rd should have been 1st

[tropic summit]

depends on what you want to go for, extra CP or burst speed

4th slot is flex to fit that need

keep in mind you still need siren to be linked, so whoever you put there needs to be less atk% (OL included) than her

[cedar orbit]

what does?

[onyx scaffold]

No idea

Not like I can decide even if I know how it works. So i never bother finding

[shell hazel]

SU support won't tell you either so atm it's a mystery 😄

[tight canyon]

can anyone help me please ?

[mighty haven]

This has been a fun ride, time to lose

[shell hazel]

CA1 I was in a 3 way tie-break and came 3rd, but I think I should have been 1st by matches won
CA4 I was again in a way way tie-break and came 2nd, which is probably accurate. but I think the guy who was 3rd should have been 1st.

CA1 results

CA4 results

[onyx scaffold]

That is a nice way to present your result

[swift mango]

man saved everything

[shell hazel]

haha 😄

[onyx scaffold]

Personally I list the team out so I can search for it easier next time

[shell hazel]

oh I do as well this is just a part of it

[mighty haven]

Possibly then won 2 fights at 4-1 and lost 2-3, vs other who won 4-1 twice but lost 1-4

[tropic summit]

mihara alice blanc trina jackal
anis biscuit sbs noir rumani
auto

finish helmT
noise in synchro, build her to 4/4/4 4OL

wishlist/build
scarlet, cinderella, RH, centi, noah

[shell hazel]

nah we went over this in another thread, it was basically impossible for me to be 3rd on CA1 because I won 11/15, and I beat the guy who came in 1st 4-1 so they (at best) had 11/15 as well

that is assuming they won against both others 5-0 which I find unlikely

ranking order appears to be somehow backwards or incorrect on tie-breaks

[mighty haven]

Only way to find out is to contact them directly, otherwise its all assumption

[shell hazel]

I have done so, but you know how effective AI replies and shut down of your ticket is? 😛

[swift mango]

It was supposed to be so but we have had people with less wins rank 1 before. There was a whole thread about it in feedback since season 1.

[tropic summit]

wasn't it debunked as it's based on total CP?

[mighty haven]

I mean contact the actual player

[shell hazel]

I think I have a better chance of getting railtracer to solve it by mentioning it here than SU dealing with it in any official capacity

[tropic summit]

e.g. if 3 are on same win total the one with highest CP gets picked 1st

[shell hazel]

someone did that btw, had all the receipts

[mighty haven]

🐳

[tight canyon]

thanks

[shell hazel]

happened to another person and they had all the match results

[swift mango]

But less wins total got picked though.

[shell hazel]

nah you can see I had the most CP and still 3rd, and likely the most wins

[tropic summit]

seems to be random then

"oh you all got same wins? coin flip cya"

[shell hazel]

I strongly suspect it's literally backwards

as I believe in my CA4 the guy in 3rd actually won it

so it's sort by x => descending not x => ascending - some intern error 😄

[tropic summit]

broken code in my nikke gacha game? never seen this one before

[shell hazel]

but mainly to say @cedar orbit whilst it does suck, you and I probably both weren't actually 1st here, and the poor sucker in 3rd was

[cedar orbit]

if I really wanted to become a real CA gamer, I would level up Rosanna for 1 additional free win, but can't bother

[tight canyon]

may i know why jackal doesn't use the quantum cube ?

[shell hazel]

my Ros is levelled up but I was on attack 3 times and she works best on def I think 😦

[tropic summit]

jackal does use quantum cube, give it to her

[mighty haven]

Quantum for PvP, says on the right

[tight canyon]

i was talking about that

[tropic summit]

@tight canyon added the cubes:

mihara any
alice any
blanc vigor
trina quantum
jackal quantum

anis quantum
biscuit vigor
sbs any
noir any
rumani quantum

for any use whatever is highest with priority on bastion and resil

[cedar orbit]

that specific team didn't need quantum on Jackal, since it's already 3 RL and has no chance of reaching 2.5RL

[tight canyon]

i see, thanks

am i using the first team for the rookie arena or can i make a special team just for this mode ?

my current team

[tropic summit]

rookie is meaningless, opt for a 2RL or 3RL team with high CP

go with this i guess

sbs resil/bastion
rrh same as above
blanc vigor
trina quantum
jackal quantum

[tight canyon]

thanks

[cedar orbit]

he could just put his highest lvl cubes on Trina and Jackal since it doesn't matter

massive CP padding

never really had anyone who wanted to compete in rookie arena, this has been my group's top defense team for 1,5 years

[shell hazel]

I have one guy who can beat me pretty consistently so I just change up my def all the time 😄

I don't really care that much on it though am 3rd atm, I try and stay top at SPA instead

[atomic wolf]

HOLY SHIT

[shell hazel]

but it's pretty fun giving them a new challenge each day

[shell hazel]

caps lock key broken again?

[atomic wolf]

i am being attacked by 4 people at once in SPa

They really want me to Die Hard (trademark copyright)

[cedar orbit]

since last shuffle it has been chill

[shell hazel]

mine is super chill lmao

[atomic wolf]

Thought you were talking about me

[cedar orbit]

bro with Red Hood avatar said it's not worth for 300 gems

[atomic wolf]

Mine is consistently ape shit mainly because I always get grouped with 17 chimpanzees that uses their wallet to win

[shell hazel]

bro with red hood avatar is floating around 10th or so atm 😛

[atomic wolf]

The moment I put off my meme cindy grave team I literally can't lose

[shell hazel]

top 3 could compete but I guess atm they seem happy to stay top 3 as it's same gems anyway

[atomic wolf]

I'd die to stay top 4 let alone 3 without being attacked, in prev bracket I get to stay 4 with no danger at all

This bracket two unbeatable subhuman whales top 1/2 top 3 is the obvious schizophrenic I see every SPA bracket that changes his bio expecting more than 1 people will see it, and top 4 is usually vacant until now

[cedar orbit]

oh, i guess in my previous group that's why the casual whales were hitting eachother between 4th-6th, they wanted to get into CA

[signal hull]

I love reading this chat, makes me appreciate my bracket so much more :^)

[atomic wolf]

I have not NOT once see a single peaceful bracket on my end

[shell hazel]

no one from my SPA 1-4 even got out of quals this time 😄

and last time I think it was only me who did, so not sure why they rushing for CA anyway

[atomic wolf]

If they cant get out of qual they either have bad bracket or trash team which also means they're trash

I meme a lots but I do put some efforts in my teambuilding

[shell hazel]

think they'll get bored as CA gets normalised and it's actually work to win it as you need to invest a lot more than SPA

[atomic wolf]

If I didn't give one half shit I'd demote to top 10 3 months ago

[signal hull]

I spent 2 days planning, analyzing and thinking about my teams, only to have my best 3 teams perfectly countered by some random clown at 64 -.-

[cedar orbit]

I think you also have to invest into CA a lot already, since every team I see has a full stall and a Rosanna shotgun comp

[atomic wolf]

Building CA is entirely optional; it gives you "flex" stuffs not actual currency

SPA is where it matters

So any meta that happens in CA does not matter in SPA

[signal hull]

It still hurts when you put so much effort in it and then pure dumb luck tells you "Where do ye think yer' going?"

[shell hazel]

guy who is in 3rd in my SPA sent this as one team

[mighty haven]

[shell hazel]

xmaiden nuker for main b3 lol

[atomic wolf]

either you get the "i have 3 champions in my bracket" or "3 bots"

OH MY GOD this ugly ass color

[mighty haven]

Funny that, most bots I saw in my bracket this season was 1
Last season and prev there were some groups with 2

[shell hazel]

yeah mine was pretty rough this time. I don't have any bots as opponents yet so no easy wins

[atomic wolf]

You can't win?

[atomic wolf]

I had bad luck once but now that I've properly handle my shits I am guaranteed to qualify 90% of the time

[mighty haven]

I should win, we shall see
If I lose then I just work on getting loser frame streak

[atomic wolf]

Eh I'm trying to get loser frame streak too

Since I have a good grasp of how my team goes, I know when I'll lose so the rest is RNG

I got winner last time alr

[wary magnet]

I would like to start pushing SPA and need help with team building and who to start investing in, dolls, cubes etc.
This is my box (pretty much everyone):

[calm gull]

I see most of the pvp units are little to no investment

[atomic wolf]

Your pvp is screwed

[mighty haven]

Me I should win 1/3/4, dont think I'll lose

[atomic wolf]

Huh, why is their team 5 like that

In all fairness they have 2 winning team out of 5 so it doesnt matter

[calm gull]

jackal feed also mana can revive

[atomic wolf]

real

Forbidden mongolian tech i guess

[calm gull]

estur on 1st bracket
I'm on 2nd bracket
blood on 3rd bracket

[atomic wolf]

L

[jolly maple]

remembered I forgot to cheer at 8:53
tries to log in
access the game lobby at 8:59
open arena and sees fight status of champion arena

I miss the cheer period

[calm gull]

theres no chance of me winning

gg

[mighty haven]

Versus your opponent?

[calm gull]

yeah

[mighty haven]

1 hour to find out

[calm gull]

300 lv acc vs 500+ lv acc

they have perfect lineup
meanwhile me with premature teams

[atomic wolf]

Lmao average wh*ler

[calm gull]

its more liek they play longer than me

[shell hazel]

one day I'll get rumani and be able to build better teams, or they'll give us a new b1 clip RL to go with jackal

[hollow lagoon]

Don’t think I ever gotten a bot

[atomic wolf]

Bruh hell no

[shell hazel]

no bots think our brackets pretty big/active so few bots

[atomic wolf]

Actually about clip RL, do we have any actual good clip RL besides from anis trina centi

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/yay-gif-21093719

[shell hazel]

hell no? wdym?

[umbral crown]

But we opposite

[placid bloom]

only 5 clip RLs atm + Noah as a fake clip since it's harder to 2RL with her than other clips

[hollow lagoon]

Could honestly use more clip RL

[placid bloom]

but it's just barely enough to make 3 2RL teams if you have them all

[hollow lagoon]

Man 8% charge speed on my helm

[shell hazel]

I actually want to see some better def options as well for variety

sure more clip RL for burst gen but some wild card def units that can counter things adds more fun comp ideas

I ran SR Anis and Neon in my last set 😄

[calm gull]

[shell hazel]

I was going to publish my matches soon actually, useful to have a record of what I used as well

but less interested now I'm deadge

[atomic wolf]

More PvP units = more rolls = more suffering

The meta has already been screwed over by siren's arrival

[umbral crown]

That requires some investmet in different units

[shell hazel]

I'm fine with it I even have a sheet for my invests

might look chaotic but it makes sense to me haha

[umbral crown]

If you understand it thats what matters

[shell hazel]

flag on names is just a reminder who I'm investing in next for general stuff
OL/T9M state is pretty clear, tells me what to OL next
R-15 doll has a unique colour awaiting purple dolls
R-0 is a maybe for future but not sure all need it really
skills I have targets in the invest col

LapT is my next plan but need more bond levels and a purple doll

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

I need a good place to dump skills after Scar S2 tbh, burst materials are lacking but hers is the last skill jump I kind of needed for now

main team is pretty good unless I get Cindy S2 to 10, but feels a bit pointless. Otherwise I can look more at raid units

my CA matches
qual 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFbTa0XymrQ
qual 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8fOB7QX0pg (highlight here is 40s mark match 2 where my Ros almost killed em all but not quite lol)
qual 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmoeDA5egeo

for my cope team 1 I think I should have put Rapu p3 as well because she got killed by SG team in reverse p5 => p4 on one of my matches just before she could have burst and then it would have been my win instead

god damnit @spare brook stop deleting yourself

[umbral crown]

But drake pass

[shell hazel]

level 96 or so drake pass owari

used em all on stuff like drake skills, ros skills, moran etc 🙂

and siren

all the CN drama aside the drake event was awesome and hope they repeat it in the future

[hollow lagoon]

Wow

[hollow lagoon]

Bro has high skill level than I do

[shell hazel]

yeah but all the skills in the end don't work if you lack rumani!

once I got the pvp units to good spots with skills and rolls I'll go back to raid units more

[hollow lagoon]

Tbh it’s normal since u played longer

[shell hazel]

only a little bit?

[atomic wolf]

Be ready for my arrival worm

[shell hazel]

november 1st 2024

[hollow lagoon]

Longer than me

Also I spread out skill levels over more units

[shell hazel]

I suspect your union wants you to do better there as well in the raids?

some unions don't like you investing pvp instead 😄

[umbral crown]

Me too, the books and kts were awesome

Did some max skill units

[shell hazel]

doll materials as well given how hard they are to get normally

[umbral crown]

I would whale for it

[hollow lagoon]

My union don’t care I’m the only CA earner they literally can’t care enough as long as I can keep doing CA

[shell hazel]

my biggest issue is rocks and gear fodder atm tbh

especially with how variable rock drops are

[hollow lagoon]

Co-op gonna get changed to gib gear shit apparently in June ish

[shell hazel]

co-op changes finally look to be good

at least I can do them quickly if I don't want to mald, but I may mald if the shop rewards warrant it

right now doing well doesn't make enough difference so getting to 9 and dying fast is better

[hollow lagoon]

For me it depends on the team if people keep going I’ll keep going

[shell hazel]

sure happens sometimes but usually someone afk

or people picked dumb classes

[hollow lagoon]

lol bro maxed Moran burst

[shell hazel]

almost... one more?

no it's done haha, that is ros

I like moran I'm OL her last bit of gear as well

[hollow lagoon]

How are u losing CA

[shell hazel]

I posted the matches you can see 🙂

I lost 2 but my t2 almost won #pvp-arena message

my drake needs more OL though to be fair

[hollow lagoon]

Bro didn’t invest in mana

[shell hazel]

no mana invest no

[hollow lagoon]

Shrug

Mana is very invested in my end

[shell hazel]

she's slow though

[hollow lagoon]

Bro invested in rosana harder than i did

[shell hazel]

I like her as well haha

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah but lab coat glasses waifu

The thing with Emilia is I don’t have her so I don’t know how this shit works

[shell hazel]

I will invest all the units I intend to use - some less than others (I'll get away with super basic invest on SR Anis for example)

Emilia is delayed nuke, you need to be 1 RL slower than her team apparently with noah to catch it

[hollow lagoon]

Or just wipe them

[shell hazel]

or super fast wipe yep

[hollow lagoon]

Looks like 3 rl

[shell hazel]

if blanc bursts then indom emi

that t2 looks weird surely you just beat that?

[hollow lagoon]

T2 looks like a rosana

[hollow lagoon]

Maybe sbs is there to bait rosana

[dim escarp]

[hollow lagoon]

Oh results are in

[shell hazel]

2RL scarlet should wipe it though, that is 2.5RL scarlet

[wise horizon]

you have a template for this?

[shell hazel]

I do yeah, I've shared it before, I can do so again

[hollow lagoon]

That’s unexpected

[wise horizon]

thanks

[shell hazel]

unlucky, RNG arena

what was the votes like? guessing miles in your favour?

[atomic wolf]

GRAVE N CINDY CARRY WE WINDOWS

[shell hazel]

caps lock key still broken? might be time for a new keyboard ^

[atomic wolf]

my shift key is broken not the caps lock

[shell hazel]

broken keyboard either way

[hollow lagoon]

Yeh

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/noway-nowaying-what-huh-gif-27487800

milkT pvp

[hollow lagoon]

I guess Laplace lazer is kinda weak

[mighty haven]

Round of 32, I think I lose 2-3

[hollow lagoon]

Looks like arena favours aoe nukes more than single targets

[atomic wolf]

THelm landed on biscuit

THelm B3 landed on biscuit

it took the perfect bait

[shell hazel]

there you go 🙂

[umbral crown]

Remember bois, always believe in yourself

[shell hazel]

grats 🙂

[atomic wolf]

@tropic summit i know you're blind, but you gotta see this man

[raven plover]

but I need loser frame

[shell hazel]

bet against yourself and win it

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Thanks

[atomic wolf]

it's so funny i started laughing like a maniac

[raven plover]

rng didnt let me get the frame last 2 seasons