pvp-arena

[coarse solstice]

I was running them as my defense but then I ran this and was beating Noah teams pretty consistently. Shouldn't have doubted.

[keen vapor]

Rei not OP ?

[umbral crown]

But you were C3-C5

You got powercreep?

[swift mango]

Doesn't explain why faster teams doesn't work. But I guess because full burst reset targeting.

[loud sonnet]

Were in pshyco bracket

3 whales holding c1-c3

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/ağlayan-adam-gif-22992356

[swift mango]

So you stop their whole team from attacking for a moment but they start doing it again because they were slower...

[umbral crown]

Mav is the whale

[loud sonnet]

I hold c4

[coarse lake]

they start attacking while decoy was still alive yeah? they didn't just break it instantly?

[umbral crown]

Enough for CA

[wild patio]

Guess what? I dont have noah during this time

until now

[umbral crown]

Even me got RH

[swift mango]

Decoy would be broken with one attack whether you like it or not.

[umbral crown]

2025 was the year

[wild patio]

my scarlet is already mlb

[coarse lake]

then it's probably something to do with full burst resetting targeting or something

[swift mango]

If you wanted it beefier, level up her burst and OL but it's the expensive route.

[wild patio]

every mold opening gives other pilgrim/overspec

[vernal burrow]

Finally got helm T. Any decent teams I can make for sp arena. Any units I should swap out from the synchro.

[umbral crown]

Did you try 2 RL noah in cindy team and a helm bursting in Team 3? You know which is the highest atk uni?t?

Rh by any chance?

[keen vapor]

Seems so

[umbral crown]

Go the 2 RL route with helm, she kills RH and team nt gonna burst

[wild patio]

you cannot made this up

[loud sonnet]

I don't have snow

[wild patio]

mid unit

[umbral crown]

Pull issues

[keen vapor]

Checked my record
Highest atk is SBS
Despite RH is the one with maxed doll...

[umbral crown]

Oh

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/no-duh-why-didnt-i-think-of-that-donald-kimball-gif-14910705

[umbral crown]

Go standar and hope for the best

[swift mango]

I'm lacking 4 pilgrims including Rapu but thank f I got Noah.

[wild patio]

guess shift up couldnt stand me getting 2700 gems every 2 weeks for free

[swift mango]

You have Rapu, now upgrade your 2.5rl Nero team.

It's better than 2rl Cindy with enough investment

[wild patio]

nero is still not fully invested

and quiry

[swift mango]

That's why I said what I said... You don't need Quiry though

[earnest wedge]

Is rapunzel better than mana

[swift mango]

In stall team, yes. Mana has some use case, mainly when you wanted to burst with a different B1.

But stall team still like Rapu to burst enough.

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[earnest wedge]

Okay thanks

[livid marsh]

So what quiry replacement?

[umbral crown]

There is a new variation with laplace

[swift mango]

You just don't use her and use lap/XMaiden instead

[umbral crown]

But i like quiry so she leads you avoid rosanna snipe

Like a video i saw here i think rosanna killed laplace and helm

[swift mango]

LapT+HelmT with enough CS could be fast enough to have your Nero burst before 2rl wipe.

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Its what i want

[livid marsh]

[umbral crown]

But my luck getting cs is not good

Wanted to get cs on centi, instead got blue line atk

[swift mango]

Rossana can't kill LapT normally. Need a lucky Crit at least.

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

was a worthy rosanna

[keen vapor]

What's standard

[swift mango]

Even with decked out OL line she still need to crit or 2 sacc at least. Assuming LapT with Tempering

[umbral crown]

In comin for ou, do not think i have forgotten

[umbral crown]

Standar banner to get noah

[swift mango]

Unless Rossanna core 7 and LapT lb2

[steady steeple]

Appreciate it, no rush

[umbral crown]

My rosanna has dupes issues, lb1 since ages

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Mine too

[livid marsh]

Already build quiry

[umbral crown]

[livid marsh]

Guess i use it

[umbral crown]

that was fast

[umbral crown]

My nero team is like 695k, let me check

[swift mango]

Okay new Arknight event update, time to switch game

[keen vapor]

I HAVE NOAH

[swift mango]

Lappy of Arknights is also a crazy, just more crazy and not a hero. More like Anti hero.

[swift mango]

he is synch442 lol

you will have more cp than him in the pic when you reach there.

[umbral crown]

but but

lv400 team is 768k

Probably

[umbral crown]

Maybe 900k at 441?

[swift mango]

how did you lock it at 420?

[umbral crown]

Itd an EX stage in hard 21

[swift mango]

oh nice I have almost all ex stage untouched

[umbral crown]

I even have some in normal campaign, in case some gems needed

And i tend to use them to check cp in higher syncs

[livid marsh]

Woh SR15 quiry

[umbral crown]

for a better experience

[livid marsh]

How many nikke you have SR15?

[swift mango]

I have only 13 counting Treasurer ofc. Fml.

[livid marsh]

Ah me only 12

[umbral crown]

☆☆☆ SP Defense ☆☆☆
Scarlet/Blanc/Liter/Bunny Soda/Jackal
Noah/Centi/Cinderella/Rapunzel/X.Maiden
Bay/Biscuit/Ein/Red Hood/HelmT

give a try to these teams, if they lose feel free to ask again to give you new teams
if you have quatum give it to Centi and Jackal

try to make Helm S1 lv10

[steady steeple]

Hmmm, these are interesting. Ok ill try it out, also Helm S1 is 10

[umbral crown]

i have 20, now working in X.Maiden to be the 21

[umbral crown]

excellent

[livid marsh]

Im lacking lol

[steady steeple]

Liter is an interesting choice for PVP, no? Also, my liter and Bay are a little lower on my power levels, but I'll try to boost them up

[umbral crown]

yeah,also consider investing on noise

[umbral crown]

hahah just a bit, you need to work harder in your dolls

[hushed kelp]

Dang how do you have so many SR15? Have you SR5 any other units?

[umbral crown]

just few, the rest just have SR0. i always give SR0 then i work from that to SR15

while others find this method expensive, for me its better

[hushed kelp]

Was curious if i was doing something wrong, thought i was using dolls fairly efficiently but i only have 15 sr15 units

[umbral crown]

thats not bad

its a nice amount, you doing fine. its just some people are luckier than others

[lusty gull]

what is this ?

[umbral crown]

drake pass always helped me to get 3 SR15

[lusty gull]

everybody knows you are mexican, like everybody knows i'm french

[hushed kelp]

Ive spread a lot of my dolls across most of my pvp units though so i have 9 other units at sr5

[umbral crown]

coo coo?

SR5 just have like 2 or 3 at much

[hushed kelp]

Yeah thats crazy u have that many sr15

[crystal flicker]

It's the domain web.app issue

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

You're french

[crystal flicker]

Can't wait to see CN CA rewards

[limber patrol]

what's this

[limber patrol]

eos before champion arena for cn

[wanton juniper]

My first actual SP team that I put together myself, any feedback is appreciated. I'm unsure of team 2 but feel team 1 and 3 are pretty solid. Running 2nd B1 in team 3 to counter Siren stuns but unsure about Pepper.
Edit: I am working on my Emilia, she just needs OL gear as well as my Xmas maiden.

[forest zodiac]

may I ask for help plspls

[hushed kelp]

Rh cindy seems overkill, could probably just put in someone to generate more burst to get the team to 2.5 RL, trina is a better b2 for scar in a lot of situations so dont think you want blanc there

[wanton juniper]

oh you're right! I completely overlooked that about Trina. Will change right now.

I was messing with some other options but many fell short to replace RH and landed me at 3rl.

[hushed kelp]

You have cs oL on a lot of key units

[wanton juniper]

I am working on Emi but she needs OL gear and same with Xmas Maiden and Moran.

[hushed kelp]

Put noise noah and biscuit on cindy team

And you have a meta cindy team

[wanton juniper]

ok, will make that change too.

[hushed kelp]

You could put little mermaid in place of blanc on scar team to counter some noah teams

The third team would be completely dismantled but your top two teams would be very strong

With helm left over you could make a nero moran team if you had the units

Or you could put helm into cindy team to make her 2RL

[wanton juniper]

I do have them, Nero I haven't started on yet and Moran just needs OL gear atm.

[hushed kelp]

I assume you dont have scarlet?

[forest zodiac]

yeah 😦 no rapu scarlet or trina

[hushed kelp]

Nero moran helm rapunzel and quiry or tlap is very good

It just takes a ton of investment 😭

[forest zodiac]

@hushed kelp https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNTk2MDgxNzQwNDgxMzY0NzYwOQ%3D%3D my nikkes

[crystal flicker]

Pretty good

[wanton juniper]

Yea and unfortunatly I got into PvP for real pretty late in the game. My brackets are getting harder so I'm finally trying to take it more serious and learn it.

[hushed kelp]

Do you have every nikke in the game??

[wanton juniper]

plus so many new METAs now that my old teams just don't work well anymore.

[wanton juniper]

Yea basically.

Sadly I went for Rem instead of Emilia because that was b4 I was into PvP so I just went for who I liked more.

But I did get 1 copy of Emi

[hushed kelp]

His first team has no defense against SG team

You can put 4 sgs with Rosanna and wipe it out

[hushed kelp]

1 copy is enough as long as you have her

[wanton juniper]

Most of my relevent Nikkes

[hushed kelp]

Second team is vulnerable to blanc

[forest zodiac]

even with rosanna pretty much not investd?

[lusty gull]

weird

well, i don't really care about that browser if they want to keep this warning fine lol

100% of the app works on the device, the only request going outside is to know if there's an update

[hushed kelp]

Whats skill investment for rosanna?

[wanton juniper]

ok, I will add Nero and quiry into my "Nikkes to work on" list

[forest zodiac]

wait she is not synced

and she is 111

[hushed kelp]

Mm rosanna you really want at least 7/7/7 for sg team

[forest zodiac]

what about this?

[pure moss]

no

[hushed kelp]

Rosanna is important for burst gen and her 2 target burst damage

At least one SG in most cases is bound to go down

And that will let you get your burst off

[crystal flicker]

T1 looks OK
T2 Cindy P1 / P2 is just bad
T3 Might work
T4 Acceptable
T5 Vulnerable to Siren

[forest zodiac]

its cool and all, but again, she is not synced and 111

[pure moss]

thank you

[hushed kelp]

You could try 5 sgs honestly and see how that does

[pure moss]

should I switch scarlet and siren position?

[hushed kelp]

Replace rumani with pepper or something

[crystal flicker]

If linked yes

[pure moss]

wdym by linked?

[hushed kelp]

Do you have xanne?

[crystal flicker]

Siren Linked to Jackal and Scarlet, keeping the feeds active

[pure moss]

she is

Thank you, good sir

[forest zodiac]

@hushed kelpso like this?

[wanton juniper]

She is the one I am missing still, max rolling Cindy left my wallet empty for her rerun and I started playing just after her 1st run.

[crystal flicker]

Also move Cindy to P3/P4

[pure moss]

Use https://nikke-deck.web.app/ or https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11KWYeyvef91A-vfFuqglJJ8-OhR90TcKFVpJ6Ny_5h4/edit?gid=1990278246#gid=1990278246 to set up team

[forest zodiac]

wdym

[pure moss]

3 RL and below are good

[hushed kelp]

For your second team do sanis blanc RH centi jackal

[pure moss]

Rumani to p2, cindy p3, emilia p4

[forest zodiac]

or that?

[hushed kelp]

You might need to put vigor cube on helm to make sure scarlet gets blanc indom

[forest zodiac]

sbs is lower hp

[hushed kelp]

K then itll work

For the third team if you can put together a 2 RL noah team you can beat scar

[forest zodiac]

ooh well

I thought we were done and I already attacked

I won, thanks

[hushed kelp]

Lmao nice

Howd the SG team do

Did any of them die?

[forest zodiac]

no one got touchd

[hushed kelp]

Haha yeah thought so

[forest zodiac]

and by extension what about this?

I remember having trouble with similar t2

[hushed kelp]

First team has sg defense, it wont work for that

[pure moss]

should I swap out sbs with ein for insta burst? My ein has lower stats and OL lines

[hushed kelp]

Your sgs will kill themselves to scar counter

[forest zodiac]

t3 is blancable I think

t1 probably noah sanis? idk

[hushed kelp]

These teams are much better thought out and dont have exploitable weaknesses

[wanton juniper]

@hushed kelp How about this?

[pure moss]

you should not burst with laplace

[wanton juniper]

Since I'm lacking the Quiry, Nero for now

[pure moss]

replacing biscuit with rumani makes your 2nd team 2RL

[wanton juniper]

I see

[hushed kelp]

Yeah rumani would be better than bistcuit

Gives u a backup b1 in case noise dies too

[pure moss]

this is a very standard 3RL team

[forest zodiac]

maybe you have something on your mind?
I know sbs helm blanc centi jackal should kill t3
but others I can't find if I fought them successfully

[hushed kelp]

Ironically sg team might work for t3, he only has one b1 and if you kill noise before he bursts he wont be able to burst lol

[hushed kelp]

For t2 little mermaid would prevent noah burst if you have her

[forest zodiac]

I do have her

but it is a mirror practically

[hushed kelp]

Well your T2 might just win as is, i would just swtich helm and scar position because your scar is otherwise going to be stunned

T1 i dont think noah anis is gonna work cuz scar is going to outlast you with blanc

[forest zodiac]

I already shuffled everything so I'm not sure which teams you are talking about 😭

[hushed kelp]

The scar team you posted earlier

[forest zodiac]

again, supposedly sbs blanc team kills t3

anything else I have no idea

[hushed kelp]

You might be able to save your sbs team for t2

And use sg team against cindy

[forest zodiac]

sounds like very bad gamble?

[hushed kelp]

It is a gamble lmao

[forest zodiac]

no, sp arena is a gamble

[hushed kelp]

Dont think its a bad one tho

[forest zodiac]

uhhhhh

[hushed kelp]

Sg team stands an okay chance against cindy since he has no second b1

[forest zodiac]

hoping so noise would be targeted and would die

[hushed kelp]

Noise will absolutely be targeted

[forest zodiac]

what about t1?

so siren goes to t2 or not

[hushed kelp]

No, just swap helm and sbs position so sbs doesnt get stunned

[forest zodiac]

put someone fatter instead of helm, no?

[hushed kelp]

Helm wont die before you burst if thats what youre worried about

[uncut portal]

How to counter this?

[forest zodiac]

also I think I've saw few situations where scarlet would get focused by siren instead

oh well, I guess there is nothing else coming up

[hushed kelp]

Siren is just gonna attack p1 if you have no one taunting

Wait doesnt siren only stun who she attacks?

[fiery parcel]

I should wkn t1 and t3?

[forest zodiac]

i knew it was awful idea

[fiery parcel]

Not sure about emi

[hushed kelp]

What happend

[forest zodiac]

t2 lost

[hushed kelp]

Did sbs get stunned?

[forest zodiac]

sbs got blocked

[hushed kelp]

Even in p2?

[forest zodiac]

oops

that was some old irrelevant stuff

noah blocked everything and his team is too slow for blanc

so indom ends before any notable damage is dealt

[hushed kelp]

Yeah and i forgot that siren just continuously stuns

One person after the next

[ocean vapor]

just fast nuke them with enough firepower to kill RH/Siren, it a slow team so prob work

[fiery parcel]

Noise has no investments

Only 4/4/4. No OL. Cp will be bad

Similar with centi

[hushed kelp]

@forest zodiac do you have cindy?

[forest zodiac]

yes I do why does it matter

daily attempts used anyway

[hushed kelp]

Lol noah cindy 2RL team might stand a chance against his scar T1

For next time

[fiery parcel]

Let me check in abbit

[swift mango]

Well, you used gem for it , it was kinda wasted but you got compensated with more Sr15 I guess... but maybe you have more sr15 at the cost of less sr5.

I'm at level 90 now in drake pass.

[hushed kelp]

At lvl 90 youve got most of the doll mats from the pass though?

Rosy been putting SR dolls on his units instead of leveling from R to SR, maybe hes been recycling all his R dolls hes saved for mats?

Maybe thats the better way to go about it

[swift mango]

That's what I'm worrying about

[hushed kelp]

Whats to be worried about?

[swift mango]

worry Rosy made some mistake that would hinder future development

[hushed kelp]

He seems to be doing pretty well the way hes going at it lol, i think its been calculated the most effective way is to go R to SR but im starting to question whether its better to just recycle all R dolls for mats now

[swift mango]

To be frank I use Sr0 on CA-only units, and raid-only units. It's fine. Only SpA and campaign and some specific case need sr10-15

mostly for raw cp

rare case like Nero, Rapu needed it for tanking

[hushed kelp]

Yeah SR 15 for tanking and squeezing out a bit more attack on certain units

[swift mango]

SR15 could squeeze out a bit more score for SR I guess, could make or break a 3.01 and 2.99 in Solo raid maybe, not that I care.

[coarse lake]

nah sr15 won't be that big of a diff

[swift mango]

0.02% diff

[coarse lake]

unless for dps that benefit a lot from their specific weapon doll buff

[hushed kelp]

Does rosanna really need to be SR15?

[swift mango]

BIG

[hushed kelp]

For CA

[coarse lake]

which basically only means sr and sg i think

[swift mango]

main DPS team with sr15 same investment same playing skill, same pc vs sr0, it should be at least 0.2% difference at below 3%, not "not enough for 0.02% difference"

[jagged mesa]

It's ok I'm a bit afk these days

It's lurking time until I can get my units up

[coarse lake]

that's of your entire score

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

a single unit's dps for a close to 3% score run should be about 30% of your total score (going by past raid)

assuming hypercarry of that unit ofc

currently we don't even have a hypercarry SR or SG

[swift mango]

ofc I was talking about all dps sr15 vs sr0 scenario....

[coarse lake]

then it's easily not worth it bruh, 10 dolls to max for what, maybe 300 more gems was it? forgot the reward tiers

[tulip holly]

Any input ? New group seems to bulldoze my defense lol #pvp-arena message

[coarse lake]

well drake pass gives you enough that you really don't care much about whether it's technically worth, just make sure you got enough saved

important treasures, pilgrim-lvl dps, super important pvp units, after that it's whatever

[oblique ridge]

OL effects rule SR, then I guess the rest

116% ele dmg 58% atk will make eyes pop for example. Even if it’s on Scarlet or what

I felt like I used a lot of purple dolls for pvp and I still have at least 20 purple dolls left including selectors and that accursed stack of SMG dolls

The kits are the problem, gimme more

[coarse lake]

I used too many purples

I have a 2 non-purple in my top 3 rows

did manage to stockpile some kits from drake pass, gonna keep them as long as I can

[swift mango]

My Emi is 5th highest CP in my box. If I sr15 her she would be undisputed rank 1.

[oblique ridge]

Yum

[coarse lake]

my top 6 are all meta pve dps

[swift mango]

my RH is meta dps alright.

[crystal flicker]

So the difference between Temperance and Endurance cube is 7% dmg taken

[swift mango]

so does helm and cindy

[coarse lake]

endurance is for when you're out of slots somehow on all other defensive cubes, or cubes that are a lot higher lvl for CA, and for manipulating lowest def

[oblique ridge]

I need more solo raids to passively level my cubes

[crystal flicker]

Wdym manipulating

[oblique ridge]

It’s cuz Endurance buffs DEF%

Like, it’s its “special effect”

DEF is regarded as mostly useless unless it’s truly an obscene amount

[coarse lake]

it's by far the worst defensive cube, def manipulation is it's only purpose for cube-invested accounts (actually the % hp trigger one is worse)

[oblique ridge]

So, Endurance cube is just a Tempering cube wannabe

[crystal flicker]

We only have Tempering and Endurance as defense cube tho

[oblique ridge]

It’s still somewhat useful, like he said we can just toss it on units if we ran out of meaningful cubes

Or pray the slight bump in survival matters somehow

[coarse lake]

tempering > vigor >>>> the rest for defensive

[ocean vapor]

4 black line def moran with endurance

[coarse lake]

assuming all equal lvl

[oblique ridge]

gets hard countered by that one Ein team in CA

[ocean vapor]

i saw like one team last ca use ein lol

[coarse lake]

moran is the best scaler for def cube yeah, but I don't think it's enough to make it worth using on her, unless that bit of def is needed specifically to get someone to hit 1s

[oblique ridge]

No point since dmg taken reduction stacks additively afaik

[coarse lake]

the closer your moran def is to their final atk, the better the cube is, so you gotta get real close or fight a mid dps

[oblique ridge]

Since time immemorial in all games reduced dmg taken that stacks additively was OP

[coarse lake]

but dr also gets better the closer you get to 100%

[oblique ridge]

We just need more

How does Nero stall comp work?

Was it Nero, Moran, Helm, Mana, Rapunzel?

[swift mango]

Would be better if it was a dps but I won't complain.

[crystal flicker]

Vigor vs Endurance only 1.5% difference bruh

[swift mango]

Who was it? Bet.

[crystal flicker]

Now you need ton of rocks to get Blue/Black CS line

[swift mango]

It's Biscuit and I only need her to be above 10%

[oblique ridge]

Funny if this was on Anis (the SR)

[swift mango]

I keep getting Ele x3 in a round and I did even roll for dps

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Trina RH

[swift mango]

My Biscuit has 50%+ Ele and 35%+ ATK better than 90% of my dps.

[crystal flicker]

What about cs tho

[swift mango]

Only 7%

Fkn rounding down

Now I would need a 3rd CS line

[raven plover]

baiting helm snipe

[heady peak]

ooh sorry I went and took a nap. Idk man. im not a pvp god lol

[crystal flicker]

Tempering > Vigor = Endurance (Only 1.5% diff)

[fiery parcel]

If i replace centi with xmaiden i can get under the 15.4% deficit

[crystal flicker]

Dont need to

[nimble swan]

Does anyone know which one is more accurate? nikke-deck or the google docs burst gen chart?
i get different results
burst gen chart says my team is 2.5RL but nikke-deck says it's 2RL even without any quantum cubes

[crystal flicker]

18% deficit is fine for Scarlet buffed

[fiery parcel]

Moran team cant do anything?

Probably dead lol

[crystal flicker]

Are both the newest version?

[nimble swan]

yes

including siren etc, but she's not even in the team

[crystal flicker]

what about 17% trigger in deck web?

[nimble swan]

none, i have no CS on anyone

[crystal flicker]

What the comp

[nimble swan]

1 sec

I don't get it

[fiery parcel]

Yay. Team 1 almost won

[ocean vapor]

huh

[ocean vapor]

i think nikke deck the more accurate one since another sheet has 11.25 scarlet, but i dunno

[nimble swan]

hmm that would be nice

[lusty gull]

i updated app with jp data, it feels more accurate

[nimble swan]

nikke-deck you mean?

[lusty gull]

yes

[nimble swan]

alright

my only idea to measure it is by making a 2RL and a 2.5RL team in shooting range recording a video, and trying to compare my team to it

but i would need some playback tool where i can see detailed enough

does it sound reasonable?

[glacial hound]

Scarlet AR bullet count difference

I don't think kosmiu updated bullet count on his sheet yet

You can test bullet counts just by yourself and get pretty accurate results

Also when you have that small of a difference to 2rl especially with scarlet present is basically 2rl

Scarlet will get extra hits during rocket travel time and 2 counters is enough to push to 100

[nimble swan]

Yeah thx, I also think it should achieve 2RL

[hushed kelp]

Your app is amazing, thank you for your hard work

[lusty gull]

thanks

[swift mango]

Even with that little difference it's still 2rl thanks to scar counter

[covert lintel]

mirror siren

[crystal flicker]

Really need more clip RL

[blissful willow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359332904706117693/1373463446653374485/deck_57.jpg?ex=68311883&is=682fc703&hm=54b15fe3da52dc9f97b6a90d86c3e580dcb9c39064e75f9f5e3d1245dbde67e7&

Hello guys, I know I said this before as well but

if anyone (ideally, as many people as I can gather) can run this in champs arena, I'd be glad
You can shuffle the order around ofcourse

[blissful willow]

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Alternate version of some teams if you are missing some units

[fiery parcel]

Is it bad?

[nimble swan]

I just hope 3RL Noah (no jackal) can’t block it. (And it shouldn’t)

[crystal flicker]

Noah needs 2.3RL to block 2RL Nuke so

[covert lintel]

idk it's the first time i see it.
maybe you can change sbs to lap+ and put her in p2

[chilly furnace]

I do mix of both

[chilly furnace]

Get lucky in the shuffle

[nimble swan]

Are you gathering data and trying to make sense of how the comps do in CA? Or what’s the catch of the most possible people should run the exact same teams?

[blissful willow]

I'm trying to see how much of a factor rng really is

[nimble swan]

Yeah I was suspecting something like that. Tbh I’m curious too. Are you sharing the results somewhere?

[blissful willow]

No not really, I can't be bothered properly documenting arena stuff now, I am quite disappointed in the format of champions arena and personally despise it, not even dislike it

As far as I am concerned, the team comp you use doesn't matter after a certain point (I'm assuming that point is top 8 or top 4), which is why I am trying to get as many people as i can to run a similar 5 team comp

Obviously, if you have in depth knowledge and want to win, you will probably not win with these teams or even want to use these teams if you come across someone like bas7ial or merry or sm1 who has deeply invested PvP units (unless you get good rng)

It's really all for my personal understanding of how good this game mode really is

[quick lake]

Keripo lost. Goes to show that CA is more RNG than team building

[nimble swan]

Gotcha. This game mode is like a lottery to me. I try to find the “luckiest” placement for my teams, exactly like I would fill in numbers on a lottery ticket.
I can’t say I like it but at least it’s something to kill time with and has a minimal vibe of competing.
I personally think if they would allow to rearrange teams after each phase that would make it a lot better and a bit more likeable.

[nimble swan]

First season I sent in my SP arena teams and hit auto for the rest and I advanced into top 64. That’s about it lol

[crystal flicker]

It's rng match up

I lost at top 16, but I should win against the current champion
While the one who beats me lost against the current champion

[calm gull]

already? that early?

[crystal flicker]

That's why I've been trying to mix max gen speed

[calm gull]

[quick lake]

As in, previous seasons

[calm gull]

ahh

[calm gull]

is there any substitute for Emilia in Scar-Trina team?

[blissful willow]

Do you have xMica?

[calm gull]

nope

[blissful willow]

Ok then try the scarlet team here

[crystal flicker]

Also good enough stall comp can survive Noise buffed Cindy

[calm gull]

oh right laplace, thankies

[violet mesa]

I don't understand the SP arena. Lately it's been happening to me that someone beats me and when I fight them, the result is 3:0 for me. I don't change my team and I still beat them without a problem. How is it even possible that they beat me?

[calm gull]

your SPA is divided by 2,
attacking and defending.
maybe try fix your defense team

you can change team to attack which,
they can do it as well to you.

[violet mesa]

My defensive teams are the same as my offensive teams.

[raven plover]

and you think your opponent using their def as their atk teams?

[violet mesa]

I see, so he has a weak defence team. Even if he's 400k less BP, he can somehow beat me. OKAY.

[calm gull]

I mean, they can also counter your team by using other team, not always their def team

[raven plover]

400k for entire 3 teams is 130k average. are those 130k gaps proper teams, as long as you dont hit the penalty which is 15.4% should be doable

my bracket average cp is like 1.3m per teams (lv 541+), doable with 200k cp gap (1.099m)

whats your level vs his level

its better to screenshot / record the next time he beat you, solid evidence if he cheating

send teams too

[violet mesa]

My lvl is 512 and his is 536. My bp is 3,462,765 and his is 2,749,007.

[raven plover]

the only possibility here is he never update his def teams, thats why its low. he has level advantage

[violet mesa]

I guess that's how it will be.

[umbral crown]

But even with gems, you need the luck to make them max doll so eveeything helps

[umbral crown]

Oh that too

[umbral crown]

Si

[swift mango]

I haven't even build a new CA team... Maybe just edit the old team and done... Could try out delta but it's hard

[covert lintel]

how was your new bracket
i think i saw your ss get knocked to 5

[swift mango]

Well, it's still the old guy sometime knock me down. But he can't def for shit in that bracket so he could only gem to keep c4

My def I switched to before was an old def and apparently he remembered how to beat it so he beat it in one try

[covert lintel]

update it

[swift mango]

I did

[covert lintel]

he might make a memo for it

i rather buy this than gemming

[shell hazel]

I am doing that atm until the cost is greater than 100 😛

so it's 4 times I think, free, 50, 70, 100

[swift mango]

Got my Gemmer to spend another 200....

[shell hazel]

will probably keep that running until I get sync 321 and see where things are then

[swift mango]

Unexpected gain.

[covert lintel]

you need to try hard campaign first before buying

[shell hazel]

I'm in hard campaign at the mother wall

[swift mango]

He is too much behind so he had to spend to get to CA.

I now have 7 peeps with CA frame in my bracket...

The competition for C4 is deathly..

[covert lintel]

i think i see this guy here

or am i imagining it

[shell hazel]

I can do MW soon, if not already with some RNG involved, it's getting closer

but each level up is more chance of success 🙂

also boosting my main squad OL + gear levels as a lot are 0 - 3 here, can get some extra few k power still there

[covert lintel]

use your scar trina

[shell hazel]

close to kraken S7 as well, with siren being my top dps 😄

[shell hazel]

for whale? I'll lose too much cp

[swift mango]

My SpA bracket kinda would make someone like Echo sweep.

C1-3 guys CP pad and active. The lower bricked guys also active for rank hitting each others...

[shell hazel]

this will work I'm sure of it, I just need a bit more power and whale hunting season is done

[bitter trout]

For this team would my Emilia steal indom?

[covert lintel]

so u didn't full build them for pvp?

[shell hazel]

they aren't bad but nowhere near my campaign team

no one is clearing whale with scarlet

[covert lintel]

she might if you face against sanis

[bitter trout]

Another Sanis team?

[covert lintel]

huge lv and cp?

[covert lintel]

e?
i used her in the past even before trina released

[shell hazel]

lowest clears last 1 month not a single scarlet anywhere

or trina

I don't think it's part of low cp whale meta clear 😛

i'll get stuck at nihilister next chapter anyway

[swift mango]

I'm about 10-30 level higher than the other F2P in my bracket. And ofc pad my CP high.

The Gemmer is 10 level higher than me, he pad his CP high but he never care much about that and use gem as much as he could win.

C1 is basically 60 level above me let alone other guys... He is also pretty active if you start hitting him, if you don't hit him he won't even claim point. But dude even snipe me before maintenance a few times

Other guys below, especially those 20+ level below me, can hardly hit up so they keep hitting the guys same synch but not invested or 10 lv below me...

It's the kind of bracket where someone bricked a bit like @keen vapor need to gem to keep c4. And getting hit everyday.

I'm glad I joined the "more invested and higher level" group so I don't have to having my hair fall over hit timing and snipe like before....

[shell hazel]

few hours more for squad forming be interesting to see what my CA bracket looks like

[calm gull]

hopefully I can made it to top 32 like the previous one

[raven plover]

so reech

[coarse solstice]

I don't think CA brackets will change

Or do you mean who all qualified after the shake up

[swift mango]

You are doing 4 gem wiping out a day now?

[shell hazel]

I mean who I wind up with in the 4 initial league thing

it was diff for me each time so far, even if the same person appeared twice 😛

[swift mango]

Darn... I'm only doing 50-70 everyday... 150-300 gems daily to reset dispatch though they usually return more value than 100 gem claim...

[shell hazel]

you spend a lot more on the dispatches than me

usually I do 50 on dispatches, maybe sometimes 100 if it's bad

I still slowly gain gems

[swift mango]

today I was unlucky spent 150 gem more for 75 gem return and 2 core dust boxes. So 75 gems for 2 hour core dust, somehow equal to value of 100 gem claim for core dust. It was unlucky day mind you.

[shell hazel]

re-roll once or twice often has good results though

for the small cost of doing it

[swift mango]

depending on your luck

[shell hazel]

often gets me more gems and cd crates tbh 😛

which is fine, I need more cd anyway

[coarse solstice]

I've had the same person twice as well. This time I kinda want my new SP rival. So we can have it out proper. Posted my discord still won't slip into my dms 🥹

[swift mango]

Today I had 8 useless dispatch at start. 4 doll dispatch all useless. after 50 gem, doll dispatch okay but still 6 unless dispatches, them I processed to 150 more for dispatch reroll with one time changing nothing and one time just give 55 more gem....

[shell hazel]

yeah I don't like to go too deep with it tbh

[swift mango]

somehow I broke even with that 2 core dust box at the end.l.

[shell hazel]

my dolls are in OK spot as well thanks to Drake event

[covert lintel]

snipe C1 before reshuffle

[covert lintel]

no, that is the reason why i always broke

[covert lintel]

sometime i did when i need the fodder to OL equipment

[steep sundial]

im just better ig 😼

CN is definitely not filled with bots

[chilly furnace]

That just month 1

Wait 3 month and there will be many

[swift mango]

maybe I could now but dude invest more into arena the more I snipe him. He now has 2rl team x 2 and 3rl team x1 with OL, after one year of me keep hitting him. So it's not just cp press I'm dealing with.

[calm gull]

[glad meteor]

Does gemming exist there. 100 gems to try as many times as possible to maintain a position?

[steep sundial]

i have no idea

i dont think a lot of people are playing pvp right now

since the servers have only been open for 2 days

[glad meteor]

the malder will be there soon

Day 1 players too

Those brackets will be something…

[swift mango]

@raven plover

This guy quit more than 2 weeks ago... But he still joined last CA and made it to top 8.... I guess the question is answered.

You don't need to edit your teams it would still count...

[raven plover]

same exact teams and positions?

[swift mango]

How could he change it if he doesn't online to change?

[raven plover]

who knows the game keep the teams but randomly shuffle it

man they removed shiftytroll emote

[swift mango]

He said farewell to me after 2nd CA because he went to med school and stopped gaming.

I guess he level gapped his bracket too much he still join CA even if not online

[raven plover]

damn last words from a homie

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

So anyone on the same bracket as this whale?

[calm gull]

sadge

[quick lake]

oh wth, he is in my bracket

[swift mango]

No way he is.

Unless it's your alt

[quick lake]

I keep seeing him in my league bracket

[swift mango]

He is in MY league bracket...

[quick lake]

[shell hazel]

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-wait-what-wut-wtf-nani-gif-25479769

[calm gull]

he was asking for SPA bracket

[raven plover]

blood and rheax same CA bracket

[covert lintel]

let's go team up to beat C1

[sleek imp]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-sukuna-gojo-mahogara-gif-4420703113752501151

[calm gull]

I would liek to see you face against blood

[raven plover]

Im losing

[onyx scaffold]

from top 2 to top 7. no more CA

[fiery parcel]

Good evening

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/the-god-father-marlon-brando-vito-corleone-talk-to-me-gif-20107028

[fiery parcel]

My SPA rank dropped to diamond

[limpid nebula]

will this work for T5 CA

[polar wing]

Can someone please help me with 3 updated Sp Arena Teams?

[crystal flicker]

All these news and not a single CA improvement news

[coarse lake]

Why would they, they finally managed to kick CA out the door and disown it

[unique mountain]

Let us make ten teams in ca

We have the nikkes

[glacial lion]

siren not stun sanis cuz sanis reload too fast?

[limpid nebula]

im ready

[crystal flicker]

Me: Rerolling Scarlet OL to avoid Siren stun
The game:

[placid bloom]

ye 5 bullet SAnis reload slightly before 2.5RL

[crystal flicker]

Seems good

[glacial lion]

ammo cube on sanis

[limpid nebula]

1st (attacker?) vs 2nd then 3rd (attacker?) vs 4th?

[midnight marsh]

ROSY

you have to enact revenge

[shell hazel]

oh man that cp they have! 😄

[limpid nebula]

their server 13018, 13182 and mine 17899 .....

[shell hazel]

I'm 23458

[coarse solstice]

There are twice as many bots in the baby pool this time around. Did they add a bracket

[placid bloom]

maybe they split 2.5 anni players off

or earlier

[limpid nebula]

you reached CA alr? so fast?

[covert lintel]

my scar often to be used on pve so a big no rerolling max ammo

[placid bloom]

only 1 bot in my group but my matchups look okay

[coarse solstice]

Does that mean we are just stuck with this many bots though?

[placid bloom]

actually it looks a lot more full to me

[limpid nebula]

if my cindy team vs SG is a sure lose? how much faster will the oppenent RL be

[coarse solstice]

Light work 💪

[placid bloom]

most groups I'm looking at only have 1 bot

well I see some 3 bot groups now

[coarse solstice]

There are at least 4 that are just bots. Another 3-4 that are one player 3 bot

[placid bloom]

oh they're in the middle

lmao

[shell hazel]

CA? I'm sync 302 and circling back to mother whale

[shell hazel]

hope so, my opponents not bots anyway 😛

[placid bloom]

yeah there's a lot of bots in the 10-25 range

[limpid nebula]

how to identify which is attacker and which is defender?

[pure moss]

Noise Rumani Cinderella Emilia (21% charge speed) Noah (2.5 RL)
Siren (if linked otherwise scarlet) Scarlet (or Siren not linked) Trina Centi Jackal (2RL)
Moran Nero Treasured Helm (17% charge speed) Rapunzel Treasured Laplace - This team requires full investment on every nikke. I'm talking all OL 5 on all. 10/10/10 Moran Nero Helm. Rapunzel needs s1 at least at level 7 and Laplace 4/10/10 (2.5 RL)

[raven plover]

do they shuffle the CA bracket as well

[swift mango]

It's me who lose.

[raven plover]

for this one

[coarse solstice]

I think so. Or they added a bracket to NA

[swift mango]

Well, it does.

[swift mango]

Keep the old scarlet line... Don't reroll it....

[covert lintel]

i'm getting bullied by veteranz union

[raven plover]

raku is the bracket also shuffled

[swift mango]

Too much riot happened these last few days thanks to CN version. CA is thing they could ignore

[raven plover]

beta till 2026

[swift mango]

Still 2030

[covert lintel]

i think no, there is still avalon union and shinonon who is throwing 1 nikke

[shell hazel]

mega whale in my qual bracket

[raven plover]

thanks boss maybe next one

[swift mango]

I could beat him

Hobo would bully him

[shell hazel]

we'll see, we have to wait 24 hours for the qual results right?

not sure if my current matchups will beat em, could be rover

[covert lintel]

there are new faces but ig they are from warring 3rd or 4th position

even in my bracket changed 4th position

[limpid nebula]

i saw one guys put 1 nikke in each CA team

[raven plover]

shinonon my goat

[shell hazel]

is it a protest of sorts?

[covert lintel]

let's see how many times this team lose

[shell hazel]

it's not just 1 unit per team it's all the eva units lol

[pearl fractal]

SP Arena and Rookie Arena teams pleaseeee

[limpid nebula]

yeah fr

[shell hazel]

yup 5 eva units 5 teams, perfect

[coarse solstice]

20% of my bracket has 1 or less real players in their qualifier matches. The next highest group is 2 real players then 3 with the rarest being 4 real players....

Make top 8 quality holy crap this is ridiculous

[swift mango]

Care to share it everyday?

[coarse solstice]

What's the match up look like?

[shell hazel]

I haven't checked them all but mine look pretty busy... I've actually not had a bot yet

[shell hazel]

i'll draft em up, think it's the most potential opponent for upset simply due to all the cores lol

if they beat me they'll likely 3-0 it unless RNG 😛

[covert lintel]

if only i advance

oh wait i swapped it to centi this afternoon

[graceful grotto]

2.5R?

[limpid nebula]

win 1 battle as in 1 of the 5 teams, or win against 1 opponent

[shell hazel]

I think it means the title lol

[lone sequoia]

win CA

[covert lintel]

it's like this

[lone sequoia]

yeah you only have to win 1 battle... in the finals

[graceful grotto]

nice

[onyx scaffold]

Naga better

[raven plover]

maybe shinonon been doing it since season 1

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-woody-toy-story-sora-kh3-kh-gif-27223516

[crystal flicker]

I suggest you to actually invest to PvP Nikke if you want decent team, you're missing upgrade for the core of each "Meta" comp

[swift mango]

Imagine they make treasure Noah re-enter burst 2. Now we could block a wipe with Noah then use Blanc a unit.

The perfect world.

[raven plover]

bay reenter into biscuit

[nimble swan]

does anyone know how is it decided in group stage if i'm defending or attacking? (CA)

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/cr1tikal-penguinz0-meme-woo-yeah-baby-gif-19316511

[shell hazel]

I dunno if I atk or def yet... I'm top one

[shell hazel]

I think I lose 1/2, might win 3/4/5 though, 3 depends if scarlet wipes before cindy burst

dunno why they fielded 4RL SBS indom when they have every unit for 4 lol

[pearl fractal]

btw what are the percentages? and RL?

[nimble swan]

like SR neon

[shell hazel]

gotta be done I don't have rumani 😄

she has 53K CP, she's my lowest CP unit but she's on 2RL comp at p4 might be fine

[pearl fractal]

i have jackal

[shell hazel]

jackal can work on SBS team 3

4RL is kind of slow for your team 3

[pearl fractal]

then give me a complete team man

what is RL anyway?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[nimble swan]

rocket launcher

[shell hazel]

speed basically

1RL is roughly 1 second or so

so 2RL team bursts fast, 3RL is kind of average you want

4RL or more is slow, units dying will change the dynamics ofc

[coarse solstice]

Pretty sure you got the dub

[shell hazel]

hope so

[crystal flicker]

Can change Noir in T1 then

[shell hazel]

think my t1 loses either way

SG will eat em before they can burst

[pearl fractal]

what is the percentage and why are some characters highlighted with a box?

[shell hazel]

percentage is how much towards that speed you are with no other factors

so 110% 3RL is 3RL speed basically certainly, it's over 3RL but in reality 3RL

90% 3RL means even in good conditions you may not reach it ever

main contributor for changing RL speeds would be jackal feed (team with jackal on and links being hit generates more burst for you)

so 92%-93% 2RL if jackal link is in firing line will likely upgrade to 2RL

if your team is like 98% 3RL you can add some quantum cubes to get it 100%

[pearl fractal]

is my jackal good for Noir T1 or T3 SBS

[shell hazel]

Noir is clip SG so whilst decent burst gen she will feed your opponent

I won't provide all the teams anyway here @crystal flicker did most of the work already

[pearl fractal]

so then i will go for T3 SBS then

[shell hazel]

also us non MA are not helpful or something so you can hope for an MA response maybe 😄
#pvp-arena message

I will rarely cook full teams now whilst that stays pinned

[crystal flicker]

This might be slightly better

[pearl fractal]

same team for defense?

[shell hazel]

one assumes you are mostly asking for defense teams not atk ones

[crystal flicker]

New bracket wont beat that unless they know what they do, or against whale lol

[pearl fractal]

why pepper?

[crystal flicker]

Faster burst

[pearl fractal]

so whats for offense? do i have to change for every match?

[crystal flicker]

The same works for offense, you might need to switch depend on enemy's formation

[shell hazel]

offence may depend on opponent teams

[lusty gull]

did that warning disappear for you ?
i send feedback and i can't reproduce it

i don't know how exactly that thing works but i think some haters report the app as unsafe and they add warning without checking it

[shell hazel]

what browser is it? I've never seen that in Chrome

[lusty gull]

it's only edge, something called smartscreen

[shell hazel]

yeah that is defender

[lusty gull]

not really smart if you want to know what i think

[crystal flicker]

It's fixed

[lusty gull]

so yeah most probably what i thought

thanks for checking

[crystal flicker]

Thanks for the great app!

[shell hazel]

yeah it's really awesome thanks @lusty gull 🙂

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

I did think of something cool for it the other day but I can't remember what it was...

[umbral crown]

This gonna be hawt

[shell hazel]

you got this

[umbral belfry]

fighting my guildie

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

The laplace boi defeated last 2 seasons in top 16 and top 32

[umbral crown]

Which one

[umbral belfry]

[polar wing]

I don't know what you mean by missing upgrades... you mean dupes?

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

man that looks like you got this as well 😄

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

2nd guy in my quals is a mega whale. started after me but +100 sync levels lol

[umbral crown]

Waos

[shell hazel]

loads of core max

[umbral belfry]

lock in 🗣️

[shell hazel]

I locked in 😄

[umbral crown]

I need to defeat the laplace boi to be free of him

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

lock in rosy 🗣️

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/rucoy-highlander-bees-knees-gif-13863171

[umbral crown]

And thats me

[shell hazel]

yes I am aware it says bee 😄

[umbral crown]

And you know whats nice, Ein got a dupe last night

[shell hazel]

but it's basically highlander

[umbral crown]

[coarse solstice]

All new opponents for me this time

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/they're-weak-alex-magnussen-will-arnett-next-goal-wins-they're-fragile-gif-6397482825445345689

smash em

[coarse solstice]

After looking top 8 seems like it'll be a lot of familiar faces

[umbral belfry]

wait ura

wtf happened to your gems

26?!

[hollow lagoon]

Welp Tis champ arena season again

[coarse solstice]

No self control I spend em as I get em

[umbral belfry]

but collab is soon 😭

[nimble swan]

I think i'm in the same bracket. Idk which one you are but when did a guy being 382 or 398 commander lvl start the game? (which banner i mean)

[coarse solstice]

I have almost 600 golden tickets 👌

[umbral belfry]

[coarse solstice]

Not to big of changes but decided to split Noah and biscuit to give SBS one last real chance before I retire that team.

[umbral belfry]

blanc and anis...

I fear many misindoms in your future

[coarse solstice]

Already was happening. So wouldn't be much of a change

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/kolow-gif-22856605

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

What server number

[coarse solstice]

Worse is SG killing Blanc and SBS before I burst

[umbral belfry]

pray for no decent rosa

[umbral belfry]

blanc should be fine though

[coarse solstice]

I mean there are like 5 good Rosa's in our bracket

[umbral belfry]

I didn't count 😭

[coarse solstice]

So dodge till top 8

[hollow lagoon]

ur prob with us then

[shell hazel]

23458 was mine and I started Nov 1st last year

global mind you

[kind palm]

here's my cook this season + my bracket matchup
will I survive group stage?

[covert lintel]

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1C56MA87cH/

[shell hazel]

are you in our brackets? if you see me in 46 then yup

[covert lintel]

dev notes

[nimble swan]

Yeah i'm prob with you then cause i def seen Tav guy

[shell hazel]

that's me 😄

[nimble swan]

lol

[shell hazel]

who are you in game?

[hollow lagoon]

ur screwed then, tav will spank u good

[shell hazel]

[covert lintel]

we're finally get loading fix

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

I've not seen anyone from here who is in my SPA or rookie yet mind you

[coarse solstice]

Also I used RNG to determine my team placement. I was overthinking it and just decided to let fate choose

[pearl fractal]

im a complete noob but which character which burst character to prioritize for cubes? or do i just put cubes for burst III because my resillience cube is only lvl 10 so 6 max

[nimble swan]

i'm taarn the bottom one

[umbral belfry]

all you can do now is lock in 🗣️

[nimble swan]

i got in top 64 1st season and ever since stuck being 2nd in group phase by getting hard countered

[shell hazel]

I don't recognise it but I'll keep my eyes peeled 👀

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/rNnMUN-GjeY?si=MUwAWCc5YGG1_MLW

[coarse solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-morty-get-your-shit-together-get-it-together-summer-gif-17788139
@umbral belfry my new favorite lock in meme

[shell hazel]

ah wasn't in my set last time

maybe you got to vote on some of my matches 😄

[hollow lagoon]

the second guy of that group has been scoring pertty high, ur prob screwed, but he brought a Rapi Hood team so u might get away with it

[atomic wolf]

rip grave cindy team

[shell hazel]

I lost and then voted for @hollow lagoon who also lost

[atomic wolf]

but now my comp is Solid Snake

[crystal flicker]

0 investment in PvP Nikke (Trina, Noah, Emilia, Biscuit, Anis(SR), Rumani, XAnne, Rapunzel, etc)
#pvp-arena message Already make several comp you might able to use, though you need to actually invest to them

[hollow lagoon]

that was unexpected, for me too but it be what it be

[atomic wolf]

ok so i lose

[shell hazel]

yeah 😦

[nimble swan]

I will prob beat 2nd guy 4-1, but will prob get beaten by first guy, maybe not if r4 i'm defending

[shell hazel]

Zantarath is Zant who you also probably saw

[umbral belfry]

[nimble swan]

yeah, I got beaten by Raven that season

[hollow lagoon]

i have a pretty home brew set this time around, not expecting to win big

didnt even bring a cindy team

[atomic wolf]

i have 2 50/50 team right from the get go

what a horse shit game

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

[atomic wolf]

would like to know if he's here

[hollow lagoon]

i want CN molds mang

[nimble swan]

man I was going for the "losing all bets" frame and couldn't get it bc Zant lost last season 😦

[shell hazel]

yes he let us all down

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-shame-ringing-bell-walk-of-shame-gif-13316112511080767236

[atomic wolf]

level 299 with 282 sync actual subhuman

[nimble swan]

i had to cheer on him like 3-4 times

[hollow lagoon]

i ate a rosana team and died

[polar wing]

Yes I know. That's why I'm askin here. I have plenty of resources to invest.

[shell hazel]

nah I jest I had already lost by then anyway

[hollow lagoon]

the worst part is i cant even view how i died, cuz version differences

[atomic wolf]

@smoky snow

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet and other Position 1 prefer using Tempering cube if you have, Rocket Launcher prefer Quantum Cube or Adjutant, the other just use highest cube

[atomic wolf]

guess who's fumbling btw

[shell hazel]

Trina, Noah, Biscuit, Rumani for starters

[nimble swan]

was a 200iq move from SU to release a new version while CA was running

[shell hazel]

4/4/4 skills basic OL on gear

[pearl fractal]

whats the best cube for each character? and who to prioritze plz

[shell hazel]

your batteries are key and low CP means you can't run em

[crystal flicker]

Yeh, you can invest to those, I alr ordered based on how "Important" they are

[hollow lagoon]

me shrug the shrugest of shrug it be what it be, ill find out next time

i'm not in the mood to invest too heavily into pvp atm, gotta try to get indivilia and ultra to 6

[shell hazel]

I need to beat the whale wall again

[polar wing]

thank you!

[hollow lagoon]

401 is yikes, i dont even wanna screw with that

i'm 368?

[shell hazel]

no I mean the actual whale haha

[hollow lagoon]

oh

hard 21?

[shell hazel]

yeah

doable, little more power and I got it

[hollow lagoon]

mmm what was my cp when i did it

[shell hazel]

my closest so far is about 150 bars

but crown died suddenly then couldn't burst anymore

[hollow lagoon]

last 30 seconds?

[shell hazel]

was past the elite wave 😦

yeah around there, one or two more burst cycles maybe did it

I'll try again 303 (I have enough cd actually but no bd)

[hollow lagoon]

if that's the case when u ate the lazer barrage?

[shell hazel]

no I don't really know what killed her, she didn't die to elite wave

I timed the stacks and she survived that

[shell hazel]

taunt + immunity

[hollow lagoon]

oh i killed my whale at 348

[shell hazel]

yeah 😄

I can do it sooner than that I am certain of it

303 - 310 maybe at the top end

[hollow lagoon]

i had uninvested modernia

[shell hazel]

running comp I sent it's possible without mod

[hollow lagoon]

my actual cp was 530k

[hollow lagoon]

i didnt have good redhood

[nimble swan]

What do you think about this matchup? Prob this will decide if I get into top 64

i'm bottom one

[hollow lagoon]

is top even 3rl?

[nimble swan]

not even 4rl

[shell hazel]

that is not lapt

[nimble swan]

if i'm defending i won i think

[shell hazel]

they got uninvested ros

74K is weak

[hollow lagoon]

i have many 70k units tho

ur the mad lad putting ol on pvp chars

[shell hazel]

but your units pretty uninvested also 😄

yeah gotta do it

[nimble swan]

i do the same lol

[shell hazel]

tbh union raids we do fine even with me diverting stuff

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

we get into hard mode day 1 and we get to boss 3 or 4

needs a lot more to hit the top 50-100 and I cba anyway 😄

[hollow lagoon]

my union just kicked a bunch of inactives

[wild patio]

cmon michel, keep trying like I did.

[shell hazel]

solo raid I still do OK around 3-6% depending on boss, I'll divert some back to core solo raid units later

once my pvp units are in a good spot for skills and gear I'll leave em to chill some 🙂

[hollow lagoon]

solo raid i do like? typically 6%?

[shell hazel]

6% was last I had I usually did better but fire was my weak spot

[shell hazel]

I get way more gems and things from pvp so I invest here plus I enjoy setting up my teams and messing about some 🙂

OL my core campaign team a bit more with levels atm for whale

most of my gear +0 to +3

[hollow lagoon]

i just did a good amount of my units to +4

[shell hazel]

only one I have +4 is RH

rest are lower usually, so that CP above can grow a bit if I OL more levels. +2 or +3 is quite cheap so I'll aim for +2 for now

[hollow lagoon]

i wanna start ol my pvp units but the gear exp is cring

[kind palm]

if not for CA those + on equipment don't contribute much the higher sync you go up but you'll be more desperate on atk stats though

[shell hazel]

it really is, 2-3 days for one piece to +0

[shell hazel]

it's mainly for my core pve units atm

siren, cindy, rh, crown etc

[kind palm]

yeah core pve units need those a bit more

[coarse solstice]

I think going to finish my PVE character for the next little bit kinda disappointed with my raid performance and want to get that on lock. Especially now that Ros is like 80% done

[shell hazel]

I'm 2nd in PVE progression in my SPA atm and I like to stay near the top

[coarse solstice]

Getting armor to level 5 dolls and what not

[shell hazel]

guy above me is +12 levels ahead so beat the whale

[kind palm]

if you haven't fought hard mode mirror container then prepare ein for it too if you are close

[shell hazel]

miles off, I kind of hope we get a better option than Ein by then tbh

but if not I'll build Ein kind of more when I need to

[hollow lagoon]

i did my tower whale at 24% deficit

but the hard 21 whale i did at 21%?

[kind palm]

due to cp gap it's gonna be kinda hard yeah
cin will need less cp deficit than ein to break slippers

[shell hazel]

still think pvp wins here. 3k gems / 2 weeks vs 1K gems / 4 weeks in raids

because you compete on raids with day 1 whales, hard to get top 1% or so

[hollow lagoon]

i just wanna hit 3% once

[shell hazel]

I'll build out the maids and such when I get the chance, eventually my units will be done and I'll look for overflow places to build

[hollow lagoon]

man my maids aint even full ol yet

[shell hazel]

good point think I was close once 😄

but don't think I beat 3% or less yet

my best was the 3% - 5% range

[hollow lagoon]

i dont remember my numbers really

[shell hazel]

yeah would be nice if the game told me what I had haha

[hollow lagoon]

i just do it and forget about it

[shell hazel]

because same to some degree

I don't remember what bosses/numbers I had precisely either

[hollow lagoon]

and then i log into the game and see the meh frame

[shell hazel]

I don't use any frames

new face banner + no frame 😄

[coarse solstice]

Oh for sure. I'm holding 1st in SP without issue though

[shell hazel]

the dream no need for fancy frames

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel gonna need that 401 whale to rotate into my bracket to dethrone me

[shell hazel]

I have competition

people could knock me off 1st if they wanted to try it

[hollow lagoon]

how tight are SPA bracket anyway

[shell hazel]

mine is actually fairly close here

[hollow lagoon]

i mean

[shell hazel]

i'm cp padding a team as well lol

[hollow lagoon]

i'm 24171 so what range of people do i actually get to fight

[shell hazel]

if I lose 1st I'll re-adjust but for now, cp padding baby!

[hollow lagoon]

breh pad 1 team is my favorite strat, but i decided to not do it for sp for now, if i get taken out ill adjust

[shell hazel]

my last loss was 56d ago

think 2-3 seem happy to chill there for now, it's relaxing SPA for us 3 at the top tbh

2 is more PVE focus but has higher sync

[hollow lagoon]

i dont think u will ever get rotated into my bracket until mergers

your peers are in general higher than people i'm working with

[coarse solstice]

Only one that messes with me is Platinum. He really wants first everyone else chills. Good to help keep my teams tight and he doesn't get except in rookie.

[shell hazel]

yours is pretty close also

[shell hazel]

yeah we had a lot of competition here I think, for top 1-6 so people are motivated to build

[fallow nebula]

How strong is lil
Mermaid in arena

[hollow lagoon]

stun ur blanc she will

[fallow nebula]

?

[hollow lagoon]

yes

so ur redhood will be burst 2

unless something was changed

[hollow lagoon]

ofcourse he wants to mess with you judging by his frame choice

[shell hazel]

you need to learn about deficit