pvp-arena

[hybrid fox]

unless an immune 😄 no one is surviving that

[keen vapor]

Well but, Blanc Indom in theory should win

[hybrid fox]

well it lost, and it DID went to Emi as well

[keen vapor]

How many ammo does your Scarlet has?

[bitter trout]

Like 50+

[keen vapor]

No good .... Unless

Actually that might work

[keen vapor]

Try Scarlet/Blanc/Helm with vigor/Trina/jackal

Scarlet will get stun but she should keep Indom and Helm lifesteal instead

[bitter trout]

Oh that may work

[keen vapor]

Modern problems requires modern solutions

@stuck parcel do you still have Dirk in your bracket?

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

How would you win this @umbral crown ?

[covert haven]

moran biscuit anis summer jackal helm treasure
counters noah biscuit comps since anis wipes their attacker or just random units while noah is immune

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Birb

[umbral crown]

Siren/Scarlet/Trina/Red Hood/Jackal maybe

[keen vapor]

[shell hazel]

[limpid nebula]

1st time CA deck, is it okay?

[umbral crown]

Looks fine

[covert haven]

team 5 sacrifice lamaw

[lunar pawn]

newbie brackets running bots and neons, meanwhile my bracket is locked by whales and poseidons

[umbral crown]

Rumani P4 so in case you face SGs she can live to burst

[covert haven]

thanks

[shell hazel]

how tanky is your SR anis? that is your only B2 and she has no real protection

if she dies = gg

3 RL cindy is fairly slow

[umbral crown]

For the units he has...

[covert haven]

tho that will give the enemy team higher burst due to taunt, hence y I first thought of putting her p5 and tempering cube

[limpid nebula]

i didnt invest in her

[umbral crown]

When you see neon is because some units are missing

[shell hazel]

then your cindy team is forfeit

I'd consider reducing a team to copium to shore up the others a bit better

better running 3 better teams than 4 on paper 3RL teams with weaknesses maybe

[limpid nebula]

absorb T5 stall with noise?

[placid bloom]

looks pretty bad tbh. Every team loses to 2RL nuke, every team loses to 3RL Blanc SBS Biscuit, every team loses to invested defending SG and even attacking SG except for your Noah Biscuit team.
I suggest you don't balance 5 teams and just make 3-4 strong ones because you will easily get rolled 3/5-5/5 with this set up.

[strange linden]

Got my Rosanna to 7/10/10 and with those stats, is she good enough to be used in defense?

[shell hazel]

go back to drawing board a bit maybe, focus on making 3 good teams (Scarlet focus for one, Cindy for another)

a SG team for 4th

[lunar pawn]

not 100%+ ele? bricked

[shell hazel]

and then just lob a cope team for 5th :d

think it will do better on average

[strange linden]

thought you need 42% atk%
75% is probably enough to OS water units I think

[limpid nebula]

this is my SPA teams

[swift mango]

Now it's a 6 ways war for C4. I'm praying for anyone deciding to gem for it.

[lunar pawn]

I have people gemming in top 8

[covert haven]

any thoughts on rei(tentative), mana + 1 rl(laplace probably) as core in the team?

[lunar pawn]

isn't emi+laplace ideal to have in the same team?

well, if you have her anyway

[covert haven]

unfortunately no emi

[lunar pawn]

tbh I haven't seen any CA team cooks with reit

[placid bloom]

it's kinda hard to devote resources to her probably, she's just not as fast as Emi is naturally

[umbral belfry]

4rl scar

[limpid nebula]

thats my temp yolo team

[heavy hearth]

Can I get help for rookie and sp teams? I have quantum cube at level 8

[limpid nebula]

@placid bloom @shell hazel What about this team com? Rosa not built tho

[quick lake]

Scar Trina Siren Rumani Jackal
Noah Centi Cindy Thelm Noise
Blanc SBS Biscuit laplace xmaiden

Rookie just use T1

[quick lake]

Can just run 5x SG for T4 instead

Generally team building more impt than using high cp units

[limpid nebula]

Zwei?

[quick lake]

Next highest CP SG would do. Poli/Zwei whichever more invested

[heavy hearth]

I don’t have noise

[quick lake]

swap to Rapun

[shell hazel]

can't cp gap in CA so alice probably isn't doing much in your scar comp either

not the worst choice if you lack options but her burst gen is slow, low feed I guess

[signal hull]

Can anyone confirm: I don't need to have a character in my sync machine in order to use it in CA?

[limpid nebula]

but my highest vs 2nd highest is about 9k cp remaining majority cp drop quite drastically, will it still be better to place alice there?

[shell hazel]

CP does nothing

there is no CP penalty in CA

team comp matters a lot more, even uninvested units can still work OK depending where and how you use them

[limpid nebula]

so replace her with privaty or noir? for atk buff

[placid bloom]

yes you never have to sync CA or SR only units.

[shell hazel]

SR anis maybe? what does it get your speed to then?

you're not using her and she is a good battery

first CA we all tried the CP padding idea and by 2nd CA no one was doing it because it doesn't help you win really 😄

[limpid nebula]

is a 2.5RL vs 3RL using SR anis

[shell hazel]

you can't throw uninvested unit at p1 or p5 lightly but hey p3/p4 is generally safer and may work

[limpid nebula]

nice tip

[shell hazel]

2RL with one quantum on trina

it's a bit cope without jackal but no jackal is no jackal

pray you burst quick 😄

[signal hull]

If it's 2RL jackal shouldn't be a problem and Trina gives 2 sec invul anyway.

And if the enemy has Noah, then you'll lose anyway, Jackal or not.

[shell hazel]

I'd run that, will be better than what you had

[limpid nebula]

my cube is like lvl 1 or 2

[shell hazel]

might be enough still

you're 99.85% without any cube

level 1 or 2 quantum will tip that to 100%

[placid bloom]

it's fine, surely you get 1 counter

[shell hazel]

3RL on your cindy also feels a bit slow considering you got helmT there

and rumani

[placid bloom]

it should be 2RL no? Noah Biscuit Cinderella HelmT Rumani

[limpid nebula]

maybe i can remove crown cause thelm atk buff when burst

[placid bloom]

you're basically just praying 2RL Scarlet, 2RL Cinderella and SG get you out of groups because your other 2 teams are gonna be potato

[limpid nebula]

what about SBS team tho, i thought of this and placing viper for cindy team

[placid bloom]

this team is a waste of resources

[shell hazel]

I think you either commit to 2RL cindy with Helm T or you take Helm T out and commit to 3RL Cindy with Helm T elsewhere

[limpid nebula]

so my SG team needs to be invested somehow, i think only my tdrake and maybe naga is "invested" else SG meh

[shell hazel]

this is my cope 3RL cindy 😄

[limpid nebula]

this works i can stall with biscuit if i have defender left for other teams

[shell hazel]

2RL cindy can be good, but depends on timing and what the opponent runs

if you 3RL it costs you biscuit in addition but you get to use pepper somewhere

but in return HelmT makes it onto another team and will help it reach 3RL as well

kuwon you think 2RL here or 3RL with what I suggested or slight mods?

[placid bloom]

for what

[shell hazel]

for cindy comp

[placid bloom]

with Noah 3RL is fine

[umbral belfry]

it's all fun and games until your 2 rl noah cindy loses to a 3 rl noah cindy

[limpid nebula]

oh yeah i been seeing cindy on P4, whats the logic behind? wont stray bullets hit cindy then?

[shell hazel]

here is p5 to protect pepper

[placid bloom]

problem is you already commited Noah and Biscuit to this team so you are kind of throwing away Helm since I don't think you have any way to make another fast team

whichever team Helm is on is just gonna be 3RL with no defensive option

[shell hazel]

biscuit can move out if you swap someone else in but it's weaker to SG

[limpid nebula]

maybe i can cope with this

[placid bloom]

this is okay too

[shell hazel]

if you got pepper throw her in over neon mebbe

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

if you don't neon cope is ok

[placid bloom]

Idk what you're gonna do with Helm though, you don't have enough units to make another 2RL team without taking apart SG

and 3RL Helm is uh... not good.

[shell hazel]

frees up a noise

[limpid nebula]

what if i double down SG with thelm

[shell hazel]

might be an idea tbh

4RL with no one else is fun though 😄

[rich fiber]

There is 1 alternative for 2RL Cindy /w out HelmT but requires high invest. 38% CS Emilia.

[limpid nebula]

ohh its impossible for me then no emilia

[shell hazel]

doubt they have emilia, I don't have her

hmm if we can free up rumani...

whatever madness this is

[limpid nebula]

what about these? else random team

[placid bloom]

yeah it's just 1 clip RL too short, it takes so much resources to get Scarlet to 2RL

[shell hazel]

do you have pepper or no?

[rich fiber]

Could go Noahless with Rumani, Centi, Trina, Cindy + Anis/Pascal, so much clip RL wasted though

[limpid nebula]

nope, no rapun as well

[rich fiber]

Ack if you don't have emilia probably no Pascal either

[limpid nebula]

no emilia no pascal

[shell hazel]

rapun is swappable probabky

[limpid nebula]

i started around crust banner

[shell hazel]

just wondering if this is insanity

and then rumani into what I sent above for Helm T with someone other than Rapun at 2RL

[placid bloom]

it's doable

[limpid nebula]

unfortu i have no tia too

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

alright basic anchor you're up 😄

[placid bloom]

Yuni is defender RL if you're desperate

[rich fiber]

Biscuit /w Cindy is so tanky, especially if you haven't invested in moran/sanis

[shell hazel]

we could use someone else here entirely was just seeing if we could use a defender for biscuit proc

as we can't lose from p5/p4 to SG easily or not burst

[placid bloom]

tbh I think you just accept that p5 dies going into defending SG

[limpid nebula]

[rich fiber]

move Cindy to p5

[placid bloom]

or put Cinderella p5

it's okay too

[shell hazel]

yep ok

[placid bloom]

you already took out Helm

[shell hazel]

?

[limpid nebula]

oh man i no ancher too

[rich fiber]

So gonna troll a SG team

[shell hazel]

[placid bloom]

probably Biscuit in p3 then, so she doesn't get splashed to death before 2nd invin proc

it's fine if p2 dies, they are doing nothing

[shell hazel]

what RL units you got?

[limpid nebula]

[shell hazel]

we need b1 or b2

[placid bloom]

Crust

[umbral belfry]

wait you're lv200 that fast?

[placid bloom]

Yan

[shell hazel]

yess! the devil child

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

alright

iDoll Flower, it's your turn

[shell hazel]

I see her 👀

[placid bloom]

okay

[shell hazel]

arcana also works if you have her

[limpid nebula]

i pulled 200 wo getting a single mihara

[placid bloom]

I mean there was always Belorta and Mica

[shell hazel]

yeah, run the devil child per #pvp-arena message

https://tenor.com/view/harvey-j-hennything-hennything-is-possible-hennythingspossible-hennessy-gif-12155443

[limpid nebula]

so we free up rumani for thelm?

[shell hazel]

we need to keep this close to 2RL but swapping rapun out for someone maybe we can do it
#pvp-arena message

[limpid nebula]

lmao my CA teams will be the most random looking ones, lol to the ones voting for my match

[shell hazel]

that is a fairly solid team still

actually tbh I think we have some alright teams here 🙂

[limpid nebula]

is this one of them?

[shell hazel]

yeah

noah / biscuit / cindy carry that comp

but you're basically invincible to some degree

[placid bloom]

until 2RL Scarlet but nothing you can do

[shell hazel]

yeah

[umbral belfry]

sure would be a shame

[placid bloom]

just gotta accept your roster is lacking

[limpid nebula]

i never thought of using cindy as the defender on the side mind blown

[shell hazel]

siren isn't real

[shell hazel]

question is who we use here to keep this speed OK, without rapun

bay needs to b2

[placid bloom]

Noise to p1, Rumani p2, Belorta p5

[shell hazel]

helm is ideal b3 but could sac someone else first

[limpid nebula]

i dont have bay im srry

[shell hazel]

oh no

[placid bloom]

alright we're using both Belorta and Mica then

[limpid nebula]

but i got them in wishlist

[shell hazel]

ok we just need another b2 😄

we have to run belorta here

please make it happen

[placid bloom]

I think there's not a lot left in the tank

you have N102 or Mica

or iDoll Flower

take your pick

[limpid nebula]

give me a moment

[shell hazel]

viper I choose you

[limpid nebula]

tviper?

[shell hazel]

normal works also

[misty valve]

Can anyone help me?

[shell hazel]

should still leave you with enough for your SG team to make a working comp

team 5 - dead probably 😄

[limpid nebula]

but my SG not invested only tdrake and semi naga

P1 and P5 will prob be those uninvested ones

[shell hazel]

send the SG comp anyway it's the best you have left

alright show the teams so far please 🙂

[limpid nebula]

give me a sec

[shell hazel]

I think we got pretty solid results there given your roster

you'll see that composition may beat raw power

SG team ideally to around 3RL with your best clip SG

[placid bloom]

probably put Viper on SG team and Product 23 on Helm team since Viper hits a bit harder

[shell hazel]

yeah fair shout 🙂

position your b1/b2 to safest spot on SG team, p3 + p4

[limpid nebula]

not tdrake on p3 or p4?

but she do can tank more if she is on the side

[shell hazel]

it's in case you actually get to burst

p3/p4 is safest and likely you only have one of each

[limpid nebula]

should i go for this or 3RL?

[shell hazel]

this is for b1 and b2

it's basically 3RL if you have a quantum cube

[limpid nebula]

oh yeah i keep forgeting that

[shell hazel]

we only needed 1 for trina, so should have a spare

[limpid nebula]

oh thankfully my quan cube is lvl 3

[shell hazel]

I'm not even going to try and cook your team 5 tbh you'll just have to cope something in

[limpid nebula]

alright i will do that

[shell hazel]

cp doesn't matter really but just send in something that at least has some threat on auto attacks

[limpid nebula]

whats with the positiong of T2? anything i can learn from?

[shell hazel]

still 2 x 2RL, 3RL Cindy and a 3RL SG team I'd say you have a reasonable shot at getting somewhere

[limpid nebula]

T1 i learn using cindy as P5 defender for biscuit skills

then B1 and B2 in P3 and 4 for the safest spot

[shell hazel]

typically p1 takes the most heat, unless you face enemy SG or snipers, especially on def, they can attack p5 instead

SG anyway, not 100% on how snipers work here

noise and rumani fairly tanky so maybe they live enough to burst

[limpid nebula]

and is it also because RL will reload each round then go in cover, so putting them on P1 and P2 will take lesser overall damage compared to a MG and SMG

[shell hazel]

it's mostly so they tank the hits, it's 2RL so should burst before both die

[limpid nebula]

defender > supporter > attacker (in terms of max hp tankiness?)

[shell hazel]

if helm bursts interesting things might happen

yeah basically, your non SSR will get chewed alive

and Helm can't tank from the front line, so this is your best option

[limpid nebula]

ohh now it make sense

[shell hazel]

this won't beat a great enemy team but some 4-5RL nonsense it should beat

[limpid nebula]

thanks a lot, i learn a lot here

[shell hazel]

still a student but I think we cooked the best meal we could 🙂

and it was fun using the random units I don't normally see

but they're used relatively safely here

[limpid nebula]

maybe when i unlock SPA we can cook some cn server SPA

i got the worst pulls ever

[shell hazel]

hopefully you can post your matches when they are up

[limpid nebula]

alrightss

[shell hazel]

I wanna see belorta in action

[fallow nebula]

Who should i swap for rumani

[shell hazel]

it depends what they do with the kits because CA nikke has diff kits and buffs for units

[keen vapor]

Belorta

[shell hazel]

can't wait! 😄

[stuck parcel]

Nah, not in SP arena anymore.

[earnest wedge]

I can’t beat shit with my arena teams anymore

Should I add treasure Drake to one of my teams maybe?

Or just focus on investing into the meta units like biscuit and Noah

[keen vapor]

Right, i have it now

[snow kraken]

Do y'all think SBS/Lap+ would be better over sAnis/iMaiden in team 4?

[misty jackal]

Looking for any advice. I’m mostly stolen or hobbled together teams for SP Arena. I feel better about my main three teams but the last two are shots in the dark. Any advice anybody has would be really appreciated

[vagrant ravine]

not sure hot this counter enemy team since siren will stun moran and cindy will nuke my team

[misty jackal]

Here are my other 2

[tropic summit]

T1 overcommited, buffless scarlet, that's also not how trina works
T2 what's the point of biscuit here, noise is not a defender but a supporter, won't benefit from it
T3 you're doing B2 with RH
T4 SG/sniper weak (single B1 in p5)
T5 too slow, SBS on a non indom/stall team is mostly meaningless

[misty jackal]

Thanks for the advice.
Any obvious changes I can make?
Sadly I don’t have sanis

[misty jackal]

Where can I spread out team 1?

[glacial lion]

siren still die before she can stun

[misty jackal]

I’ve read the pins but they use a lot of the same units

[umbral belfry]

is that my guildie

[covert haven]

if moran is stunned, jackal burst gives defense and shares damage taken from top 2 final atk, which will be helm treasure and anis summer, as soon as you hit burst 2 enjoy the watch as anis summer battles cindy burst autos with biscuit heals and her passive

[fallow nebula]

Anyone

[covert haven]

one of the teams this set up defeated

[umbral belfry]

I'd take out rh, with rumani that's a 2 rl

[fallow nebula]

Red hood is good tho

Hmm

[umbral belfry]

She is, yes. but I guess it's up to you if you want to exchange a faster team for a atk buff. you could also exchange drakeT? but overall t1 positioning looks odd, and I heavily doubt trina is linked

[fallow nebula]

I forgot to switch scarlet and trina its on my list

Switching drake sounds interesting

Im also planning to switch cindy and sbs since cindy’s damage is lacking without red hood

[umbral belfry]

Gives about the same burst gen and less feed towards opponent, not a bad trade

[earnest wedge]

Should I change my teams or just invest in the units more

[lunar pawn]

noise rumani cindy thelm noah

do your cp / opp cp

if above 0.846, you're fine, no cp penalty

[shut seal]

thanks

[covert lintel]

of course she is
don't underestimate scar S2

[lunar pawn]

just remember to slap tempering cube on noah

I don't like seeing a noah without at least purple doll

[shut seal]

oh good call.

[misty valve]

So is this the wrong place to ask or something?

[lunar pawn]

you could drop your previous 5 teams so people can guide you better on where to improve

[covert lintel]

mention @tropic summit or @keen vapor

[earnest wedge]

Apparently so lol

[lunar pawn]

very few people are knowledgeable on pvp, even less are willing to help here, and even way less find themselves willing to spend enough time to cook 3-5 teams from scratch

[misty valve]

Fair:

[covert lintel]

my advice get often disapproved by veteran so i'm afraid it will be a misleading help or recognized as troll

[misty valve]

First 3 are ok I think, happy to adjust though as they were just taken from SP and the last two are just my doing my best 😭😂

[trail inlet]

second to last aint bursting my guy

and last one is better without tove and leona

[worthy knoll]

Find some MA, coz accdg to them, non MA post are just spam here and reddit nonsense

[trail inlet]

unless leona is invested then switch out tove for rosanna

[worthy knoll]

At least MA words are more credible

[oak gale]

i decided to cook for a minute in the champions league
only to realize i was the one getting cooked

[misty valve]

Last one is literally just a shotgun team, little investment in tove or Leona

Figured I did not cook in the second to last as well lol

Hence my coming here for some help 😅

[wise horizon]

Is this a bad idea to go?

[misty jackal]

Anyone have any changes I can make?
Railtracer had good points, but I’m at a loss on how to action them

[tulip holly]

Any input ? New group seems to bulldoze my defense lol #pvp-arena message

[lunar oxide]

do i win this?

[signal hull]

What the hell are these teams...

[lunar oxide]

idk man everyone is higher cp than me

[signal hull]

Don't you have anything more... um... "bursty"?

[lunar oxide]

this is just my 2nd highest on auto build team

[signal hull]

Noah/Centi/Rumani/HelmT/Jackal?

[placid bloom]

you need to win 2/3

[lunar oxide]

don't have none of those nikkes

[placid bloom]

DrakeT

it's something I guess

probably still doesn't kill Siren fast enough though since you're down 30 levels

[covert lintel]

maybe win

[placid bloom]

and Alice/RH shooting Priv

[signal hull]

Put Red Hood before Alice.

[placid bloom]

good thing is you can afford to let Siren die, but theirs bricks their team

[vital turtle]

for some reason, im in champion arena. can i have some assistance with 5 teams?

[lunar oxide]

do i put my round 2 team on round 1 since its lower cp on their side?

[placid bloom]

you can, if Liter dies their team is bricked too

not that fond of RH and Alice shooting into Mihara because you're gonna start burning down but maybe it's okay

her DoT shouldn't be too strong without reviving

[signal hull]

This is so messed up, you need burst units badly...
Ok. Tia/Mast/Cindy/Liter/SBS vs your enemy's Liter/Blanc/Noir etc.

Your Siren/Naga/Red Hood/Alice/Drake vs enemy's Siren/Naga/Alice etc.
That's what I'd do.

In the order I used

If Tia dies, you'll have Liter. Without another B1 Tia is worthless.

Red Hood >>> Alice as B3 and that's a hill I'm dying at.
Unless ofc for whatever ungodly reason your Alice is much more invested.

Oh shit. No, your Cindy team won't burst at all...

[lunar oxide]

round 1 got decimated, round 2 was good, round 3 i almost made it

couldn't get the results for round 3 because of misclick

[signal hull]

Can you link ALL the units you have?

[wise horizon]

Need help here.

[signal hull]

You have Trina!

[lunar oxide]

i have no idea whos good in pvp so i just go with auto build

[shell hazel]

yeahhhh don't do that

good units sorted by burst gen. The Clip SG ones are less desirable

helm treasure (priority). trina. jackal, centi, rumani, noah etc all core units

clip SG in 2nd half are good as well but you don't want to really focus em

SR Anis is not great due to SR status and low CP mainly, works better in CA

[signal hull]

maybe

[shell hazel]

you got 17% CS Anis

[signal hull]

wait, answered to wrong guy sorry

yikes, must've missclicked it

yeah it's 3RL with usual Anis

[shell hazel]

I can't really rec a new player to build out Anis tbh

pushing campaign is better

[signal hull]

Well, just for burst gen.

[shell hazel]

trina is OK on basic invest, Siren is campaign usable

it kind of depends if it tanks your CP too much

[signal hull]

One of his enemy teams is pretty low

[lunar oxide]

just to conclude, i have won the fight by switching out mori with trina

[signal hull]

Try getting Helm Treasure asap.
OG Scar, Trina (OG Scar's perfect support) and Cinderella are all top tier in pvp. Safe bet to level. Probably focus on Cindy, since she's good in pvp AND pve.

[shell hazel]

yeah if you can boost someone who works in both that is a good idea

[heady peak]

idk man... I feel like.. i'm just not maximizing shit

do I take out siren

[sleek imp]

what is this bracket 😭

[misty valve]

I still need help 😭

Full box for reference

[misty valve]

Who would you switch for Emilia if you didn’t have her?

[verbal aurora]

anyone know what that 17% from nikke deck is? I suspect it's charge speed lines but I'm not sure

[dim sapphire]

viper s1 works in pvp?

[misty valve]

What would be changed in these teams with treasure viper and no Emilia? Figured I’d piggy back on this since I’m gettin no help with my own shi lol

[lunar pawn]

what are some good targets for 17% CS? jackal > trina/centi/noah > sr anis?

[lone sequoia]

clip RL and p3~p5 units, but depends in the team (you have to check the burst gen of your team)

[lunar pawn]

does the deck app site take into account positioning?

[lone sequoia]

yes, same amount of actions in less time=faster teams

[lone sequoia]

idk, i don't use that thing

[lunar pawn]

[verbal aurora]

cool thanks

[lone sequoia]

try to get your clip RL first, then just go with teams

[verbal aurora]

Is there a particularly meta rookie arena team? Been using this for both att and def and wonder if there's any upgrades, have pretty much except rh and collabs/limiteds

[lunar pawn]

yea think I'm doing jackal first then probably centi

[umbral belfry]

this is just asking for a siren stun

[lunar pawn]

also cindy p2

[umbral belfry]

i'm going for noise (taunt prio) / noah / cindy / helmt / rumani personally

that way noise gets stunned, but noah + rumani can burst

[lunar pawn]

I tend to do noise rumani, then noah in p5

[lone sequoia]

no good def teams for rookie or sp

[umbral belfry]

that too

[lone sequoia]

20~25%cp deficit, still a easy win

[lunar pawn]

btw if noah is faster than noise, is noise guaranteed to taunt the whole match? or however long noise and noah are both alive

[lone sequoia]

he can use jackal, rumani comp is weaker

[umbral belfry]

i'm not sure personally, i can't test bc match ends right after cindy bursts but i'm assuming she taunts for the whole match until she dies?

might be wrong though

[lone sequoia]

2RL rookie cindy team, slower cindy, faster scarlet can win

and DR team also tank

[umbral belfry]

[lone sequoia]

or you can go with blanc ssrapi since they "fixed" MG fire rate

[dim sapphire]

viper s1 works?

[misty valve]

Please? 🥲

[lone sequoia]

normal skill, no
treasure, maybe

[covert lintel]

not whole match
only p1 and p2
only noah will taunt the whole match and all opponent's nikke

[lone sequoia]

i don't build CA teams, i don't even help with normal teams (no CA for me in my main or alt accounts)

[keen vapor]

Why treasure viper

[misty valve]

I just need replacement for Emilia and advice since my viper is treasured

[keen vapor]

There's no Emilia replacement she's unique

[umbral belfry]

when in doubt, use SR

like how i'm forced to

[patent flame]

No Rumani yet, sadge.

[shell hazel]

@umbral belfry has our Rumanis hostage

[patent flame]

[lone sequoia]

burst gen unit, clip RL
main dps, A2 (expensive and just decent team synergy)
kill pressure or combo, treasure laplace 1st, xmaiden 2nd

[umbral belfry]

[misty valve]

Is this for me? 😵‍💫

[lone sequoia]

no emi, right?

[misty valve]

Ye

[lone sequoia]

those are your options

[misty valve]

So treasure laplace instead of emi? What do I do since my viper is treasured?

[lone sequoia]

i would say laplace is near emi, but is hard to build her as a replacement and is better to use other clip RLs if you only need burst gen

what about viper?

phase 3 viper?

[misty valve]

Well, in their team she is the only burst 2, which since she is treasure would restart burst 2

So no full burst

[patent flame]

Anyways I'm currently using this squad on Rookie Arena, should I change something to "improve" it, or should I wait for Rumani to pop up?

• Noah, Biscuit, Red Hood, Jackal, Noise.

[lone sequoia]

• you don't use viper
• you use her with a 2nd b2
• you use her in p1+2nd b2

but only viper phase 3 have the re-enter b2 change

[misty valve]

Yea, that’s what I’m stuck with, unless I can undo that somehow

And am too stupid to know who to replace with another b2 or replace as the b2 with those teams

[lone sequoia]

SG team? xanne, maid anchor, poli, the problem is when you have other SG teams, but if your units have the invest you can win with normal attacks

[misty valve]

The last team is my main issue, can’t hit b3 and don’t know how to fix

[lone sequoia]

swap viper for other b2s or add another one and take out bsoda or noir, you can also move rosanna to p5

[misty valve]

Any suggestions for another b2 to replace/add 🥹

[keen vapor]

Why you answer to another account?

[dim sapphire]

where does it say only p3 reenter burst?

[lone sequoia]

you can check in viper skills

[misty valve]

Because I wasn’t getting any help with mine and figured that piggy backing off their decent looking teams was easier 😅

[keen vapor]

The good B2 on PVP are
Noah, biscuit, Blanc, Bay

[misty valve]

All 4 already being used sadly

[keen vapor]

I was waiting for his image to load bc I thought your team appeared there you sabotaged yourself

[earnest wedge]

Can I use Trina without Scarlet that chart earlier said she had the second best burst gen

[misty valve]

I can link mine, but they’re pretty bad

[keen vapor]

How you use 4 on 2 teams instead of thre- OH CA

[misty valve]

lol

[keen vapor]

Then viper in SG team?

[misty valve]

My viper is treasured

Won’t hit b3 as a solo b2

[keen vapor]

Anne?

[misty valve]

I wish

[keen vapor]

Yep

[lone sequoia]

trina is just a burst gen unit with like 18%atk dmg on burst without scarlet

[keen vapor]

Maid Anchor

[misty valve]

Pog

Thank you 🙏

[keen vapor]

That's way better than anis/centi ☝️

[patent flame]

Now that I think about it, I could go back at using Scarlet and add Trina there. Tho it can be eassily countered nowadays I think.

[lone sequoia]

just get more cs, nuke faster

[earnest wedge]

So I should build up Trina and maybe replace Naga? Though it might take a long time to get her power level up

Or I guess I could kick noir out

[dim sapphire]

only saw p2 saying reenter burst skill stage 2

[lone sequoia]

then is phase 2

[tropic summit]

would need to see your box, if anything you've most nikke for some good 4 archetype teams

-separate jackal and noah
-burst with trina in scarlet team
-move siren into scarlet team or noah team, best usage is when linked with jackal in p2 as she'll be taunted by enemy noah/noise, potentially adding better threat with stun (if not in p2, she'll always and only stun p1)
-ensure to burst with blanc, you can combine blanc with jackal or with a biscuit
-SG team is for the most part ok, but you want rosanna if possible. If you gotta burst with pepper, make sure your B1 and B2 are in p3 and p4
-last team is both too slow and too weak B3s (SBS needs to be in a stall team or indommed, laplace B3 could somehow work but there are better B3s to burst with, she works better as battery/offburst

[umbral belfry]

Wouldn't siren still be able to stun a noah/noise that's in p1/p2 if she's in p1 (linked) too?

[tropic summit]

i'll take a look

[misty valve]

😱

[oblique ridge]

I have read from the forbidden grimoire of PvP knowledge, and I have the power!

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-thanos-infinity-stone-infinity-gauntlet-i-have-the-power-gif-17925552

[tropic summit]

looks like we can work with these

[misty valve]

Current teams if it helps

[tropic summit]

how's your rosanna btw?

[misty valve]

Not good 😥 I can start investing tho

[tropic summit]

thanks will take a look after i'm done with Dank

[tropic summit]

oke that's fine, you can work on her later, she's expensive
7/10/10, 30-40atk% OL, SR15

[misty jackal]

Thanks a ton again. Reading your previous note now

[patent flame]

Never tested Cindi on Rookie Arena, how good is her Burst there?

Was checkin for options since nobody answered my 2 prev questions. xD

[umbral belfry]

Great She's basically a wiper (but like all teams, can be countered)

[placid bloom]

I got gemmed, time to

[umbral belfry]

[patent flame]

Good to know, might come handy for Special Arena too.

[umbral belfry]

You will basically always use Cindy on one of your 3 teams basically yeah (or rather you should)

[patent flame]

Was using these rn.

• Pepper x.x (no Rumani yet), Centi, Cinderella, Emilia, Laplace.
• Scarlet, Blanc, Red Hood, Anis, Jackal.
• Noah, Noise, Summer Anis, Biscuit, Rapunzel.

But didnt bother testing em yet rlly, only left em on defense

[umbral belfry]

I also suggest checking out the pins for more help on who's meta for pvp

[patent flame]

Getting to challenge with the whales ahead seems like a pain, also will do, thanks for the tip

[umbral belfry]

I can't comment on Emi/SAnis bc I don't have em but unprotected b1 (pepper) is an extremely risky choice. I'd chance her pos

[patent flame]

I wanted to use Rumani but yea...

[umbral belfry]

Even unprotected rumani would be risky, albiet better due to being a defender

[lunar pawn]

p1 taunts only p1 and p2, and p5 can taunt all 5?

[patent flame]

Was gonna update em all anyways, havent added Trina there yet for ex.

[placid bloom]

Noah's charge shots taunt the ones she hits, her burst is what taunts all

[oblique ridge]

Targeted taunts overwrites attracts, or the other way around?

Noah's "taunt everyone" is actually an Attract.

Attract is a buff that makes everyone hates the buffed Nikke.

■ Affects self.
Attract: Taunt all enemies for 10 sec.

While "taunt" is a debuff on the enemy. It makes the debuffed enemy hate the debuffer.

■ Activates when attacking with Full Charge. Affects the target(s).
Taunt for 2 sec.

[placid bloom]

taken from Reddit so Idk how accurate it is

so taunt > attract

[oblique ridge]

So if you're hoping to rescue a B1 that was taunting, with a Noah attract...

Noah attract will only grab the ones the B1 didn't taunt.

Which might be enough, tbh, unless the taunting B1 was on the verge of death

[keen vapor]

Didn't we had taunt attract info on FAQ?

[placid bloom]

Idk

there is a section in Prydwen under Arena Mechanics

[keen vapor]

We hadn't

[signal hull]

Since you're talking about taunts... I'm in opposite situation here. I NEED Soda to die as soon as possible, but I'm afraid Noah will prevent her from it. True/false?

[placid bloom]

but it only lists units with taunt

it doesn't go further than that

[keen vapor]

True

Don't use Noah

[signal hull]

But if she only taunts one, rest should be on Soda, no?

[oblique ridge]

Somewhat true. First volley will hit B Soda.

Then Noah will have taunted P1 & P2.

Enemy P3-P5 will keep htiting B Soda unless Attacking-side Sniper or Defending-side Shotguns rule applies.

And unless Noah was taunted to shoot someone in P2+. But that will only take effect after Noah fires her second shot into the enemy taunter.

[keen vapor]

She taunts 2

[placid bloom]

well Soda is not that easy to kill, there's not as much hard hitting wind normal attackers in arena

so you kinda need all 5 hitting her

[signal hull]

Ughh... Ok, back to planning table...
I hate thinking.

[keen vapor]

Me too

[rancid kernel]

what's the current best team for rookie areana? just name the characters in order

[signal hull]

Maybe I can put some other character instead of Soda...

[oblique ridge]

Neon

[keen vapor]

There's no best team pick at random from the list linked on FAQ

[tropic summit]

cubes

quantum on trina, xmaiden, tia, laplace
vigor on noise, blanc, rapu, biscuit
temperance on noah, bay
resil on s.anis
any other nikke run highest lvl cubes

[keen vapor]

Pinne!

[rancid kernel]

where is that at?

[keen vapor]

First you press on #pvp-arena at the top of the screen

[oblique ridge]

Is my Emilia B3 nuke speed math correct?

Emilia takes 4 seconds to shoot her nuke (assuming she had 0% chspd)?

And if she had +21% chspd, it'd be 3.79 seconds?

[keen vapor]

Then go to pinned messages

[misty valve]

😭 you’re amazing, thank you. Any necessary skill levels other than s.anis?

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

here you can see her time from a 4RL team against a 3RL

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

Its cooking night

I see many people cooking

[oblique ridge]

Actually I guess I can shooting range this

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

you can look on prydwen for the most part for recommended PvP investiment on the units

[tropic summit]

oke taking a look

[misty valve]

Fair, thank you again 😫

[tropic summit]

what's ur rosanna skill level and OLs btw?

p.s. we can work with these

[signal hull]

How much does enemy feed usually gives (imagine we're talking usual RL teams)? Can I expect to get 4%?

[tropic summit]

use https://nikke-deck.web.app/

example of a SG feed (on 3RL)

[misty jackal]

No OLs either

[tropic summit]

RIP

we'll do without her for this season

[signal hull]

Oh yeah please do explain, I could never understand those.
21-28% is the feed I can expect to get from this team?

[misty jackal]

I can boost her skills. Havent focused her, can get her skills up but have no equipment for her

[lunar pawn]

brain kinda fried rn, will this win? top is me as attacker, also adding comparison in SPA

[oblique ridge]

Thanks. I confirmed it's indeed like that. Baseline of 1 second, and with -300% chspd it becomes 4 seconds. Minus any chspd Emilia has

[tropic summit]

that's the feed you can expect within 3RL timeframe, in your case you could hit 2RL if you only need 4% to 2RL

[misty jackal]

Yeah Ive tried using her for my sp arena teams and they always lose

[oblique ridge]

Happen to know if she begins charging her nuke instantly, or only on her next... "shot"?

Like she B3 bursted immediately after firing a 3RL shot

[tropic summit]

immediate on cast

[oblique ridge]

I guess it interrupts her current shot and begins a new one So probably important that Emilia's shot is what pushed team to full energy

[tropic summit]

ok looks like you can make 5 teams afterall

[misty jackal]

Sorry I know you are cooking.
I have fixed up the SG team 4 recommendations; without Rosanne unfortunately

[knotty beacon]

How to beat Noah Biscuit Anis Helm Jackal in rookie?

[misty jackal]

Beautiful news. I’ve been having trouble as you easily flagged with team 5 and all

[tropic summit]

cubes

quantum on drakeT, noah, laplace
vigor on rapu, biscuit, blanc, noise
temperance on bay
anyone else run highest lvl cube

T5 especially has been turned into a standard 3RL nuke, which is more threatening than a DPS burst without indom/stalling

reiT on single buff on burst lvl 7 minimun is generally 1hitko

[tropic summit]

anis or s.anis?

[misty jackal]

I’ll get here there now

[knotty beacon]

S Anis

[misty jackal]

I can’t thank you enough for spending time on me. If you want I can give you updates on how I do if you like

[tropic summit]

do you've rosanna on 7/10/10 with 30-40atk%?

[misty jackal]

I’ll be in here more often. Want to learn more, but am busy with family and all

[tropic summit]

ye sure lemme know how it goes

good hunting

[knotty beacon]

No

[tropic summit]

alrighty let's give this a shot, ideally record it so we can see the output from your s.anis

s.anis burst lvl 9 minimun, no ammo OL
s.anis must've more atk% than helmT (OL included)
s.anis must've less HP total than RH and jackal (push vigor on them if they're not)

as you'll be hitting ele weak link, on triple buff, she should be killing the whole team alone within 10s of indom

s.anis resil
helmt vigor
blanc vigor
RH resil/bastion
jackal quantum

[knotty beacon]

Ok wait

[tropic summit]

to ensure the link isn't screwed up it would be nice to know

s.anis total hp and atk% (+OL)
helmT total hp and atk% (+OL)
RH total hp and atk%(+OL)
if jackal is fully OL'ed, she should've more HP than RH and s.anis regardless

for the above just use the blablaapp

once we know that we can consider removing or keeping helmT

if it's too much hassle you can go for a slightly weaker but potentially sufficient regardless:

this one is easier to arrange as you don't have 3 attackers to arrange based on atk% and HP

[knotty beacon]

Yea win with this

[tropic summit]

oh you went with the RH sanis and helmt?

[knotty beacon]

Yes

[tropic summit]

awesome good job

[misty jackal]

All setup! Thanks yet again. One mention I will treasure viper tonight, But that doesnt have any real impact right?

[tropic summit]

we're not using her in your lineup so ye, just keep in mind fully treasuring her turns her from B2 to re-enter B2

[pale knoll]

[tropic summit]

it could brick her if you plan to use her in SG team later on

bsoda drake viper rosanna noir would be no longer viable for you

[tropic summit]

🍿

[misty jackal]

Ok good to know, is it worth it to do so? Or better to keep her normal?

[crystal flicker]

You forgot P23

[tropic summit]

think i remember it's sufficient to not hit phase 3 but lemme confirm that

@swift mango @glad meteor @keen vapor phase 2 prevents turning her from B2 to re-enter B2 right? as long you don't hit phase 3 she's fine?

[crystal flicker]

Yes

[pale knoll]

[tropic summit]

@misty jackal there you go, just hit phase 2 and leave her as that

[misty jackal]

Ok very good to know! I would’ve definitely made that mistake

[keen vapor]

Yes

[tropic summit]

ye it's one of those things you'd generally not think about

doesn't help the fact that you cannot rollback

this game has serious issues on some QoL

[misty jackal]

One final question, I think.

What is the best 3 teams out of this bunch for SP arena? As you flagged my old teams were not optimized

[tropic summit]

you can take a look at these and run the teams that have the better CP and investiment, also CS%

#pvp-arena message

SParena is generally a lost cause once you start having opponents on your same investiment and same pvp knowledge, as it's a matter of just trying to make them do mistakes

in general, it's no longer on the defender but on the attacker

[unborn latch]

why is pepper so popular in PvP? I see her a lot in modern comps now and Im wondering what makes her so desirable that I see cooks that leave out rapunzel in favor of her

[tropic summit]

a matter of needing that B1 that has still somewat ok burst gen to hit thresholds

[misty jackal]

Makes sense since they know what they are attacking and can counter. Thanks yet again for the advice

[shell hazel]

need for CA due to doko b1 burst gen

[tropic summit]

being a clip SG, she fits that well

[unborn latch]

so if I can meet a threshhold without her its desirable to not invest I assume?

[patent flame]

I use her as a substitute since I dont have Rumani yet

[misty jackal]

I read that pin before but had a time cooking without Emilia and sanis

[tropic summit]

yeah ideally you want to avoid using clip SGs over non-clip RLs or clip RLs due to feed

if you can hit without using pepper, use whatever else available that is better

[unborn latch]

perfect ty

[patent flame]

Wow, I think I never seen Noir bein used on PvP before, cool formations for special arena

[tropic summit]

SG team pressure generally prefers having a good range of elemental SGs to hit ele weak

bsoda (iron)
drake (fire)
noir (wind)
viper (water)
rosanna (snowball + B1 nuke)

bsoda and drake in particular, as they can heavily punish ele and wind code (noise and noah in particular)

[patent flame]

They already suggested me sum alternatives but these were the squads I was using, no Rumani yet sadly.

• Noah, Biscuit, Red Hood, Jackal, Noise.

• Pepper (wanted to use Rumani), Centi, Cinderella, Emilia, Laplace.

• Scarlet, Blanc, Red Hood, Anis, Jackal.

• Noah, Noise, Summer Anis, Biscuit, Rapunzel.

No clue about what to do on Rookie Arena without Rumani, as for Special Arena I was planning on a Cinderella squad, a Red Hood squad and a Scarlet squad. But if I have to put some of em on the same team I can go for one of those shotgun squads.

Trina will go with Scarlet tho thats for sure.

[crystal flicker]

What is this? CA comp?

[raven plover]

pepper p1

[patent flame]

No Rumani ok?!

[tropic summit]

rookie arena is a lost cause, just run 2RL teams and keep rotating until they break

do your 5 daily wins and leave it as that

[tropic summit]

for SParena avoid using SGs, as they'll just allow an easier time to enemy scarlets

[keen vapor]

[raven plover]

if theres emi, surely theres helm treasure

[patent flame]

Oh ye I got my T Helm maxed

[stone iris]

@tropic summit can you help me with sp arena teams?

[tropic summit]

-what's your rosanna skill and OLs
-what's your siren atk% OLs

[stone iris]

so far my DEF teams are
noah/biscuit/cindy/little mermaid/helm+
scarlet/blanc/emilia/RH/jackal
soda/drake/anne/rosanna/noir

Rosanna is 43.73% att with 45.18% crit damage

[tropic summit]

direct upgrade would be to get little mermaid linked in p2

t1 and t3 are relatively fine as they still punish scarlet teams with jackal

[stone iris]

Little mermaid is 24.88% att with 109.64% ele

(she's mainly for kraken)

[tropic summit]

ye that's reasonable

[raven plover]

move t2 jack to p1 if people already use siren in your bracket

[tropic summit]

also just confirming, for soda you mean bsoda correct?

[stone iris]

Yeah its bunny soda

Shotguns with anne and rosanna

[keen vapor]

Meta has come up to a point where we use Maid Soda, Delta and Mihara in PVP

[tropic summit]

ok let's try one step at a time

let's go with these T1 and T2, for T2 it's important siren is linked, so ensure she has more atk% than trina and xmaiden (OL included)

[glad glade]

Delta? How?

[keen vapor]

Blood-kun does and I don't want to know more

[tropic summit]

honestly, mihara in p1 with revive is still sort of copium and testing

i need to see it consistent before we can call it meta

as it seems to bug out on decoy units

[keen vapor]

Why revive a MG

[tropic summit]

her kit sir

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

I'm Nikke player, I'm not supposed to read

[tropic summit]

true, hard to argue there

[glad glade]

How important is investment for rosa in the SG comp in CA?

[unborn latch]

So im following a template thats mostly PvE player friendly since my high BP cook is uncertain quality (got knocked out in quals by the bracket champion) My question is regarding team 3 here. In this case, who would be shielded? Jackal link is in play, so would blancs shield go to a random member in that link? BScar takes some time to build up so Im wondering if this is a loser team

[tropic summit]

very important, allows snowball and punishing attackers

[glad glade]

Cause mine is absolutely bare bones naked uninvested and I’m using Siren as a cope unit

[glad glade]

Figures. Better use Siren then

[serene orbit]

Anyone able to make SP def 🙏 i never understand pvp building. Can prob build like 2 units up if needed

[glad glade]

Kind of a shame because it might be my last CA round

[tropic summit]

you need to check linked units, jackal links with the 2 highest atk% (OL included) in your case it's SBS jackal + either xmaiden or siren, more likely siren being supporter over xmaiden being defender

use blablaapp to find it out more easily

[keen vapor]

Now read this

First 3-line in 10 recorded rolls and I remember it was by 14

[tropic summit]

jesus christ

[raven plover]

make bscar the lowest HP among the linked members if you want blanc indom to go to sbs. also put the other linked member on p5.. cus shotguns

put rapun on p2 so biscuit wont die from splash

[unborn latch]

the link would definitely be with siren and black scarlet. But either way the percentage of HP would be the same right? Since blancs indom goes to the lowest HP, it would be RNG?

[tropic summit]

no, linked units share dmg taken, as long as your SBS is the lowest HP between siren and jackal, she's ensured to hit indom

jackal sbs blanc flex siren, if linked, means you'll definitely hit SBS indom as long as she starts with lowest max HP

[keen vapor]

Flex

[tropic summit]

you can ensure of that with vigor cube in case

jackal should be naturally higher hp due to class
siren might, might not, give her cube if she's not

[unborn latch]

okay so of those three, scarlet has the lowest hp. So order should be correct for indom to scarlet?

[tropic summit]

yep seems good

[unborn latch]

perfect tyy

[tropic summit]

test it in rookie in case you wanna be 100% sure

[keen vapor]

Why not gamble ?

loses snipe bc Trina got indom*

[tropic summit]

a note, siren if linked in p5 is a tad of a waste, as you cannot punish noah shooting p1 and p2

consider:

siren sbs blanc xmaiden jackal
or
sbs siren blanc xmaiden jackal (if SBS has highest rarity doll)

this way noah/noise will taunt siren regardless of enemy positioning

it punishes noah used in p5 for example

bursting with b1 on 2RL or 3RL is also safe from being stunned (against fellow enemy siren), as you've jackal to follow up in case

[keen vapor]

Rail, when are we gonna get immune to stun unit

[tropic summit]

i wouldn't call it off, SU likes to make "accidents" happen

[placid bloom]

you have, it's called Ade

[keen vapor]

not MG

Pls

[raven plover]

yea if theres only 1 debuff which is siren, you can use Ade

[swift mango]

Yes... Stop before phase 3 unless you have something for that re-enter

[keen vapor]

That means Ade useless against siren Blanc

[raven plover]

blanc debuff comes later after siren stun right? so you block her stun

[unborn latch]

thats a great point, ill rearrange to have siren first so SBS still fires off if a stun goes in play

[raven plover]

siren noah yea Ade useless

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[keen vapor]

But she got a skin, how could she be useless

[unborn latch]

why would doll rarity matter here?

theyre both purple but siren is lvl 15

[tropic summit]

synchro lvl 401 and this MF starts costing 1k more already

[keen vapor]

Damage taken effect

[tropic summit]

the higher the doll the more the DR, being linked that reflects less dmg to everyone in link, just min/maxing

[raven plover]

good against og soda stun

[tropic summit]

DR = damage reduction

[keen vapor]

Help, I can only level up 6 times with my hoard

[unborn latch]

jackal has a blue doll, do i need to remedy that immediately?

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

well that'd be helpful, aim for SR5

R15 into SR5 is generally easy and good enough

[unborn latch]

thats literally why im stalling

jackal rn

[tropic summit]

get it to R15 then get her to SR5

just a few steps away

[keen vapor]

With blue kits only

[unborn latch]

I failed both coin flips today so thats not happening

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor cook this i gotta make my own CA

[keen vapor]

How do you know I don't have to make my own CA

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

Top 7

[keen vapor]

I see 2B, I di- OH WAIT, 452 IS DECENT ENOUGH

[keen vapor]

Wait, that diesel skin you

You're day one isn't it?

[serene orbit]

i started halfway through nier

[unborn latch]

looks like the team still works even with jackal at blue doll though

[keen vapor]

first non bricked account with 2B of the month

[unborn latch]

perfect thanks for everyones help i appreciate it

[keen vapor]

Mad dog commander

[unborn latch]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-hide-you-didnt-see-anything-penguins-of-madagascar-gif-15123878

[keen vapor]

[unborn latch]

just saw this and fair point with biscuit ty

[blissful willow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359332904706117693/1373463446653374485/deck_57.jpg?ex=68306fc3&is=682f1e43&hm=7117b7e4b495f69de6879f662f9a8e3fed2b884e8ef9fa7384aa35ded58e7441&

If anyone is in champions arena, pls use these teams
And if they can please tell me how they do in champs

Shuffle order of teams if you want

I'm trying to check something this time around

[unborn latch]

actually saw that template on the other server and modded it some just now, ill let you know

[leaden canyon]

whats the CA nero stall team look like again?

[serene orbit]

missed crown skin, kinda bricked

[keen vapor]

@serene orbit why Laplace is not overload

That's the true brick

[keen vapor]

It uses Quiry iirc
You still want to?

[leaden canyon]

Just wonder what it looks like at the moment

[serene orbit]

didnt pay attention to favorite items until helm lol

[chilly furnace]

U not in CA yet? I can do that team except team 5 because Anne is a myth

[keen vapor]

Well, atm it may not be with Quiry

[serene orbit]

i can OL laplace though

[keen vapor]

go

She's cool

[keen vapor]

Also Trina now that you're at it

[tropic summit]

ye looks good, keep in mind the doll will be handy when you facing enemy SG pressure, as p5 will be hit, having SR5 doll will allow you to tank better, especially if you're against higher lvl/investiment opponents

[keen vapor]

Nero/Moran/Helm/Flex/Rapunzel

[swift mango]

Somehow Delta doesn't work at all in this video which I just took 5 minutes ago .. did they just ninja fix delta before CA start? Or she just sometime not working.

[keen vapor]

Flex uh.... Laplace? ice Maiden?

[unborn latch]

yeah that makes all the sense. When RNG favors ill definitely convert, ty

[keen vapor]

No more Delta gaming for you

Snake not in CA?

[crystal flicker]

At least they didn't fix it mid CA

[blissful willow]

To explain a bit

The idea is to use super basic strong ideas in 5 teams, that you use as templates usually to build off of

Jackal blanc, biscuit, 2rl nukes and 1 Rosanna team

[leaden canyon]

I'll run that but lapT instead of pepper because I am not overloading pepper.

[blissful willow]

Don't need overload on pepper

[swift mango]

The problem is my question still not answered

[leaden canyon]

Wouldn't lap T just be better anyway

[blissful willow]

No because otherwise P2 will have to be biscuit

We need a b1

[raven plover]

its no longer like it used to be, I told you inconsistent

[oblique ridge]

What sorcery are you trying to do with Delta?

[swift mango]

Inconsistent is different from not working at all.

[tropic summit]

turn that moran team from pepper to rapunzel

[leaden canyon]

For reference I was going to try this, but I'll help you test

[tropic summit]

although s.anis + moran should aim to be 2.5RL to at least attempt surviving single buff scarlet

[blissful willow]

Huh
I actually never knew that wtf

Thanks a lot

[keen vapor]

My Centi has no enough CS only Anis

[oblique ridge]

2.5RL Moran. Release to me more clip RLs

[unborn latch]

just before you came in he helped me out with the modding on the team you posted earlier. I dont have pepper invested so this is what Ill be rolling with. Hope its close enough to whatever question you need answered

[tropic summit]

ye the archetype are fairly close to snake's

in fact the siren team, assuming siren is linked, is even better

[unborn latch]

I literally took his template he posted a few weeks back from the yuni butt server and thought "I could do this with what I have"

[tropic summit]

(for the reasons we spoke earlier about being taunted by enemy noah/noise)

[keen vapor]

Long boy it's taking it's time to do 8 simple overloads

Yuni

[serene orbit]

oh i OLed, didnt do lines

[keen vapor]

Any skin giveaway?

[keen vapor]

how you can overload without lines

[unborn latch]

from crown? sure shes showing a lot of skin

[oblique ridge]

4 OLs, each with only line 1 DEF

[keen vapor]

I meant if there has been any GA up recently

[keen vapor]

So cursed

[serene orbit]

dunno if they need specific lines

[keen vapor]

I mean, we overload for padding the CP

[swift mango]

Still working in rookie

[keen vapor]

Not specific ones needed

But Laplace with attack is nice

[chilly furnace]

Any replacement for anne ? I dont have anne

[swift mango]

Noticed team doesn't work well the faster it is.

[leaden canyon]

could do anchor I suppose or non treasured Viper

[unborn latch]

On the topic of cubes(beyond quantum):

What are the best practices for strategic cube use on defensive targets? Im mostly using bastion and resilience for BP padding on attackers, but Im wondering if theres a big difference between how Tempering VS Endurance VS Vigor VS Healing plays out

[blissful willow]

It is close enough, thanks a lot

[unborn latch]

Thanks for posting it

[chilly furnace]

I use anchor as replaement

Rapunzel doesnt fit on snake template team..

[leaden canyon]

Can kick pepper out for rapu and it should work

[keen vapor]

@serene orbit wanted to be original

[unborn latch]

it needs a quantum cube to work

but it does once you slap one in

[serene orbit]

appreciate the help ty

[keen vapor]

What's your current rank btw

[chilly furnace]

3.5 RL

[serene orbit]

10, was 6 before reshuffle

[chilly furnace]

Should be fine i guess

[keen vapor]

And what you used before this?

[leaden canyon]

Quantum on centi

level 7 quantum should make it 3 RL

[coarse lake]

What about sp

[serene orbit]

scarlet grave red hood emilia jackal
blanc sbs biscuit helm liter
noah centi cindy rapunzel drake

[keen vapor]

What about yours

[coarse lake]

Basically no change

[keen vapor]

Teams of all time

[unborn latch]

Theres a discrepancy here in the burst gen calculators. Is the deckbuilder site including scarlets feed gen?

[coarse lake]

Deck is more accurate iirc, recently updated

[unborn latch]

gotcha, ty sir

[serene orbit]

luckily i only ever got attacked by 1 guy last shuffle who would beat me once then lose for weeks when i switched order around

[misty finch]

Are the clip RL units worth doll SR5?

[tropic summit]

yes they are for SParena, not as much for CA (CP reasons)

[keen vapor]

Skip 24-34

[tropic summit]

that's 2RL regardless, 2% to 2RL is essentially 2RL as even the lowest feed team will give you 2%

keep in mind you're relying there on scarlet to land a few counters (s2) from unlinked p1

as you're running jackaless team

[upper grove]

Can I ask for new CA cooks? Updated some of my units

[keen vapor]

You might should consider overloading Bay

[keen vapor]

@lusty gull

You were stealing my info

Now you know I'm Mexican

[keen vapor]

Go on

[clear vessel]

@keen vapor Hito stole your C3. Let me know what's the plan of action

[keen vapor]

HEROOOOOOOOOOO

[keen vapor]

Oh, the chickens guy I see

[upper grove]

I hope they'll increase gear xp mats soon, still missing base OL on many pvp units for CA

[clear vessel]

Yeah the Kanji is "hitokokoro" but that means jack squat to me so I just call them Hito

[unborn latch]

Im glad I gave that site my credit card # and SSN before it became unsafe. Dodged a bullet there

[coarse lake]

[clear vessel]

@keen vapor if you want CA you can take my C4. Noone seems to be bothering me there

[keen vapor]

First I want to see if Hito gems and how he does against Summer Anis Indom

Or maybe a Bay team?

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

It wasn't Hero yet

[tropic summit]

honestly that bracket is gonna make you lose years of your life

so much action every season

[clear vessel]

I was wondering why Hero isn't making a move. Dude gemmed like crazy last time

[keen vapor]

I KNOW RIGHT?

[tropic summit]

maybe he finally realized it is all meaningless

[keen vapor]

I got traumatized by him at the end of those seasons

[swift mango]

Work just fine.

[crystal flicker]

What's Quiry investment?

So Merry has 10/10/10 Quiry

[misty finch]

Can someone explain how these lost? Both my teams should be 2RL and both of theirs should be 3rl

[swift mango]

It's because he's 🧱. My brackets full of relatively 🧱 now so many couldn't hit me at all. While still hitting eat others everyday

[crystal flicker]

The chances were small, but never zero lol

[misty finch]

Rip 😭

[crystal flicker]

2nd team just weak Nuke

[misty finch]

How about t2? was my scarlet just not strong enough

[crystal flicker]

Add RH and the result should be different

[steady steeple]

Can someone pls help me make 3 SP defense teams?

Or even just some suggestions for team comps i should try?? Bc i know I have some good units, but don't understand who to pair with who

[crystal flicker]

Are you Trinaless

[umbral crown]

You can see that in C4

[coarse solstice]

Been a minute could I get some help against this rookie team

[umbral crown]

[coarse solstice]

Tried the mirror and I lost so not sure what would be best. Also beats scar jack

[keen vapor]

I'm the worst chef ever

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

@clear vessel you can hit him already

[keen vapor]

Summer Anis Indom is not invincible

[glad meteor]

How’s this look

[coarse solstice]

Noah gets stunned by their siren right?

[glad meteor]

Wait they’re 2RL

[keen vapor]

@tropic summit where's the Rail special

[coarse solstice]

Also I'm pretty sure they are 2rl

My helm is CS 17

[glad meteor]

Although, noah taunt biscuit defender could be enough to block helm nuke

[umbral crown]

Will give you some suggestions in some minutes

[swift mango]

Who should I sr15 next.

When the next batch of treasure come?

[keen vapor]

Found it

[coarse lake]

should be within the next few months if same schedule

[keen vapor]

Summer

Scarlet

[coarse lake]

noise if pvp, rapipi/sbs if pve

[swift mango]

Ofc the next everything should be in few months, can't be years.

[keen vapor]

Summer

July

[swift mango]

My scar is sr15, or your mean SBS? She isn't getting that sr15. I would even Rapipi before her.

[keen vapor]

Eon, laugh at me
I was going for a 3 win
And one of the enemy teams was a 2RL Cindy with Centi! Not noah!

[keen vapor]

What you have against Alter....

[swift mango]

She is my rock farming bot and that's it.

[keen vapor]

farm better

[steady steeple]

Thank you

[swift mango]

3/3 with Delta.

[keen vapor]

kisama

[glad meteor]

Noah trina scalter biscuit red hood

Helm nuke get’s taunted by noah while biscuit s2 is active so no damage.

[swift mango]

Imagine going for 2rl just to lose against 3.5rl.

[keen vapor]

That's easy Emilia isn't B3ing

[coarse solstice]

It's in rookie and I don't have CS so Noah gets stunned no matter what before her burst

[swift mango]

I could just use Blanc for more CP but I was testing delta.

[glad meteor]

Helm burst is single target and get’s wasted against biscuit’d noah

[coarse solstice]

This ended up working because of Jackyl link. Noah died biscuit burst some how I got there. I'll record in a bit

[umbral crown]

Moran

[glad meteor]

Biscuit just puts a wall up, leaving no damage to lifesteal off of

[keen vapor]

[coarse solstice]

She didn't save Noah though

[coarse lake]

istg if I see delta in my bracket

[glad meteor]

P1 noah would have more damage dealt to her

[coarse lake]

well if that happens at least I know what i'll be running for my t5 next season

[umbral crown]

Learnung from keripo

[coarse lake]

[keen vapor]

[clear vessel]

Almost but couldn't quite break through. Will cook again tomorrow.

[keen vapor]

IT'S ACTUALLY HARD DESPITE IT DOESNT LOOK LIKE IT

[clear vessel]

Yup

[umbral crown]

Show the teams

[sleek imp]

I actually dont understand, why delta?

Tech??

[glad meteor]

Bugs

[keen vapor]

Noise/Centi/Cinderella/Helm/Laplace

Jackal/Scarlet/Maiden/Blanc/Rumani

Noah/Biscuit/Emilia/RH/SBS

[swift mango]

Feature

[glad meteor]

Exclusive to global

[keen vapor]

I just have to 2RL Noah biscuit his Scarlet team and Blanc 2RL his Cindy team

But I wanted to be original ofc

[sleek imp]

Ye they stopped attacking for some reason

[sleek imp]

is this "feature" still useable?

NA

[keen vapor]

Good for you, I got attacked and couldn't take place back

[swift mango]

The video was literally just taken 45 minutes ago.

[sleek imp]

So not anymore 💔

[swift mango]

[sleek imp]

Abusing feature like this wont get you banned right? I cant beat my top 1 s comp

[coarse solstice]

I must have misunderstood what happen when I first watched it but your right Noah/Biscuit worked perfect. Thanks for your help. I was making it harder than it was

[sleek imp]

this might help me a lil

[glad meteor]

Noah biscuit op

[swift mango]

Delta lower your CP, no way you beat anyone in RA and SpA with her and can't beat them with Blanc or Noah.

[sleek imp]

But dont you literally make your opponent stop attacking when you burat?

[keen vapor]

Bc opponents respect Delta

[swift mango]

Doesn't stop nuke or Emi delayed nuke you see.

Scar will still wipe your ass clean

[keen vapor]

She deserves it

[sleek imp]

Oh 😭😭

I dont understand those feature yall cook

[wild patio]

you know what? im done with SA. congratz @loud sonnet

[coarse lake]

delta makes everyone act like ein's drones vs cindy

decoy so op

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Rei OP

[swift mango]

It is what it is.

[coarse lake]

I am curious though, what makes delta's different

[swift mango]

Only for 10 second though

[coarse lake]

is it just bc she doesn't start out with one

[swift mango]

Probably because it's the decoy that taunt, not Delta herself.

[umbral crown]

Enough to wipe a team

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/back-off-this-is-my-swamp-shrek-shreks-swamp-gif-12025865