pvp-arena

[sand gazelle]

My main issue is that my pvp units arent really invested, cause I was never really into it. In terms of investments, what units do you think would be the best to invest in, for Rookie arena specifically, note that I started after first eva collab, so I dont have stuff like Sanis which I heard was good

Im also not sure why but, my noise doesnt actually steal taunt away from noah even tho Noise has no OL, whereas Noah has CS lines, if I put noah in p1, noise doesnt steal taunt

[shell hazel]

OG Scarlet if you want to run Scarlet dps teams
Noah / Centi / Trina for B2
Rumani / Jackal / Noise for B1

you can build some teams around those units being good certainly. some crossover on PVE with stuff like Cindy / Siren as you see

Blanc for indom comps, and XMaiden can work well for no feed but decent burst gen RL battery/backup B3

things start to get a bit more niche after those. I can't forget Helm T as well of course, who is probably priority 1 in all of this 😛

Helm T has the highest burst gen of all the pvp units in the game atm

[sand gazelle]

Yea thats defo the best, since Im more focused on UR and SR progression, so I tend to whale a bit and invest on those units, rather than pvp focused

[shell hazel]

Helm T has PVE use as well ofc (Elysion tower + raids)

[sand gazelle]

Thanks for suggestions 👍

[shell hazel]

yeah I see all the cores I can't match those 😄

not helped by the fact my pulls on the 1% banners have been awful

260 pulls for 1 x Rapi
100 pulls for 1 x Siren
220 pulls for 0 x Mihara...

I had to mileage copies in the end

if you didn't treasure helm yet do that next imo

[sand gazelle]

I actually was originally using Helm T, but I got cooked by the guy I had trouble against cuz he stuns my noah. I didnt know noise could be used like this.

[wicked horizon]

Think I'll win?

[signal hull]

Why RRH

[wicked horizon]

The 3rd team seems the hardest, so I'm not going against that.
I'd swap 1st and 2nd teams maybe, but then I have a slight deficit.

[wicked horizon]

Buff and CP padding.

RRH is B1

[signal hull]

Yeah I'm kind of... "Torn" apart about this xD

[wicked horizon]

And there's no deficit in the shown teams, so CP shouldn't really matter.

[wild hemlock]

You ever just rolling for Charge Speed on Centi knowing you will lose CP because you are dropping a black line but then

[wicked horizon]

It matters if I were to switch them.
Their 1st team seems to be 3RL, so if I'm 2RL, I could maybe get Scarlet's nuke in. But I'm not sure if it'd one-shot them at a deficit.

[wild hemlock]

[wicked horizon]

Absolute bait.
I switched teams 1 and 2.
Didn't stand a chance.

SBS was strong enough to one-shot most of my team despite not bursting.
I killed their Anis, to which Rosanna responded by one-shotting RRH, which didn't let me burst.

[crystal flicker]

3rd team is the easiest to calculate, since you only need 2RL Noah or Blanc to beat them

You can beat T1 with 2RL Scarlet, unless they have 2.3RL Noah

Ah it's deficit

Tough most of the time my Scar still winning against ~20% deficits

[signal hull]

What if Noah is stunned by Siren? I still can't figure this stun out, how and when it works.

[crystal flicker]

Put Noah on P5, solved

or Just anywhere but P1

[signal hull]

She won't taunt Siren?

[crystal flicker]

Siren at P3, Noah only taunt P1 and P2 before her burst

[signal hull]

Hmm... So does this means I have to put Siren to P1 or 2 if I want to stun enemy Noah every time?

[placid bloom]

yes she needs to be taunted, otherwise she shoot p1

[crystal flicker]

Depend on you comp, but pretty much

I use Noise P1 with slower cs than Noah, so you can't stun my Noah

Gatrix's sheets said SMG reach 50 bullets at 3RL, but test shows Siren stun at ~2.7-2.8 RL

[signal hull]

Dis geim too complicated, me jus want pretty diamon frame.

[lunar pawn]

what's a good stopping point skillwise for moran in arena? 10/4/10?

[devout owl]

Where's the guide for meta teams for rookie and special arena

[crystal flicker]

#pvp-arena message

[devout owl]

Huh

Where'd it go!?

https://tenor.com/view/aliphobe-spiderman-evaporating-reaching-spiderman-reaching-gif-18192576

[devout owl]

Oh I'm rarted. Thank you

[plucky charm]

does this work?

[crystal flicker]

10/10/10 SR15

[crystal flicker]

Can work if you know where the Indom goes to
Though I prefer go 2RL atp

[plucky charm]

idk where itll go, it might just go to jackal since thats p1
idk if 2rl is fast enough to be faster than blancs indom but maybe this?

[delicate matrix]

what's the number for Helm S2+S1L4?

idk how the extra hit contributes

[worthy knoll]

+2.8% per hit, so + 5.6% to 2 RL value of value of HelmS1Lv4

[delicate matrix]

ty!

[crystal flicker]

What Blanc Indom? 2.5RL? Should be

[plucky charm]

i mean to burst faster than when their blanc hits indom on their scarlet

[crystal flicker]

Depend on their speed

2.5 and slower yes, 2.41 and faster no

[loud sonnet]

Is this true?

[crystal flicker]

Where'd you get that

[loud sonnet]

From reddit

Oh wait its an old one

[raven plover]

@grok is it true

[keen vapor]

Grok: No, leave me alone I want to rest

[steel meteor]

Thank you for the help!! Oh shit I mixed up the names, I meant trina haha thanks again!!!

[unborn latch]

is there any footage of corrupted laplace giving her team the Pretty final show special?

[keen vapor]

I only knew about Soline with that bug, never Laplace

[raven plover]

same

[umbral crown]

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit i be extending thanks to you for helping me defend myself now i can secure 2.7k

[analog jolt]

Guys I need help

I keep loosing too much and I am done trying to figure out arena

This is the team I often use for defense

These are my strongest units and I do not want to spend more rocks on rolls for OL gear

Biscuit is just a line lower

[worn ivy]

help here please, who do I move to where or what team comp to use

[final wedge]

2 rank more to go for CA....u can do et

https://tenor.com/view/go-for-it-you-can-do-it-encourage-do-it-gif-14006408

[graceful grotto]

get that 3k let's go

[fathom rock]

2 more rank to get obliterated by frankyub again

[umbral crown]

☆☆☆ Rookie Defense ☆☆☆
Noah/Biscuit/Cinderella/HelmT/Jackal

[umbral crown]

Team 1: Noah/Biscuit/Cinderella/HelmT/Rumani
Tam 2: skip put 1 unit
Team 3: Scarlet/Emilia/Trina/Red Hood/Jackal

Noah with temperance cube
Trina and Jackal with quautm
Biscuit can be vigor
the rest at your own discreption

can also equip rumani with a temperance cube just in case

[crystal flicker]

Rosy cooking

[worn ivy]

good shit, thanks

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

for a change

[swift mango]

I read on reddit that that bug was was around early game... didn't know it reappeared during lapT early days....

[umbral belfry]

rosy cooking

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

@onyx scaffold

According to Kisenix criteria I could see these guys being Arena invested. Around 42/65 (1 from my qualifier)

Either maxed out Scar, Trina, Emi, Moran, Noah, Noise or Rossanna doll. But half of their teams are pretty terrible.

2 of them even had xAnne and Mica...

Lowest tier league in SEA has XAnne, people! Not just Emi.

[keen vapor]

@clear vessel I suggest you to attack Abathur
Since ASDF got out of Challenger he most likely will use his remainent attempt to go back to Challenger

I can give you suggestions to attack Abathur defense

[clear vessel]

Checking now, last time I was able to break through

[keen vapor]

yeah but 3 wins are funny, I have maxed burst Moran though

[clear vessel]

oh lol that's what happened to ASDF

[keen vapor]

Oh... You're safe then

unless he gem but that's a win anyways

[clear vessel]

Current C8 screwed him over. Will still try to see what's up with Abathur

[keen vapor]

ASDF terrible defense finally screwed him

[slim monolith]

does siren make noah p1 in defense a lot more useless these days?

[keen vapor]

If you have 19% CS on every RL like Keripo then no

[slim monolith]

yeah okay lemme get on that

[swift mango]

but what about your defense?

[neat harness]

So I've had Treasure Helm's skills maxed out. Where should I place her? 2nd image is my current roster

[swift mango]

10% is actually enough for 2rl Noah p1.... 3rl Noah... no amountof cs will be enough

[keen vapor]

ok, I'll roll Noah

[swift mango]

[torn obsidian]

depends on the team no?

if it's a non-helm team, you need noah + the other burst gen unit to be 10%

[swift mango]

You need the rl/sr unit that trigger the burst phase to be >10%

[torn obsidian]

that's what im saying

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Emilia account but synch level is still below 300

[keen vapor]

Rapi....

[swift mango]

Xanne account but no Xanne.

[keen vapor]

Never on earth use MG on PVP unless you're whale/said MG is named Rossana

[coarse lake]

[keen vapor]

What : pepeh:

[swift mango]

You could use Rapipi to attack.

[neat harness]

I'm also open for squad recommendations...

[keen vapor]

You know
I actually get it now

I'm fully investing in resilience cube

[coarse lake]

[keen vapor]

I'm not brick

[keen vapor]

That's a defense team

[swift mango]

I will get resilience to 11 then stop.

[keen vapor]

11 looks awesome

@coarse lake 12 better not be disappointing

[swift mango]

you didn't?

[coarse lake]

12 is garbage

11, 13, 15 is where it's at

[keen vapor]

I suspected it

[keen vapor]

So it really is at if cost increased to 200

[coarse lake]

yes

the main thing you gain is the ele

[keen vapor]

Third effect when

[swift mango]

My CP padding for core campaign units looks sad.

No luck at all. Especially around 100 rock on Crown... For terrible and low level lines.

12 SR15 all showed here.

[keen vapor]

Do 4 overloads on Centi and Noah pls

Centi should replace Noir

[keen vapor]

Well, this is worth if you reach top 60

[swift mango]

Should I SR15 Rapipi... Feel like I shouldn't.

[neat harness]

I'll keep that in mind once I get some mats, thanks 🙂

[swift mango]

Not with my luck.

[coarse lake]

tf you doing cp padding support pve units

why are you not using those rocks to min-max your pve dps

[swift mango]

Campaign need padding

[swift mango]

Because I got terrible luck?

[keen vapor]

I did anyways

Of any MG that exists she's the most worth of all

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

campaign also needs good lines on dps, and cp padding supports does nothing in SR

[swift mango]

That's why I only padding and not minmaxing but attribute reroll give my all low lines.

Beat me with that sh**

[coarse lake]

that's such a waste of rocks

[keen vapor]

Oi, I'm rolling Rumani/Noah

[swift mango]

Considering people just 4 rock and had higher CP and line than me. Yes.

Someone like you.

[keen vapor]

I didn't saw Scarlet ain't invested either replace her with her alt

[umbral crown]

low numbers uwu

[onyx scaffold]

They can just copy teams later

[keen vapor]

How many do you have I have more but I wouldn't call it "low numbers"

[umbral crown]

19

Red Hood at SR10 will be the 20

[keen vapor]

@swift mango I'M HALLUCINATING

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Should I keep this for siren.

[keen vapor]

You know ele more valuable for raid :worry pat:

But blood! I'm seeing things

Do you see the same thing?

[swift mango]

I just wasted 10 more rock for absolutely nothing yes. But my luck rebated.

Easiest my best luck with doll ever.

[swift mango]

Guess who was it for.

[keen vapor]

Rapipi?

[swift mango]

Rossana.

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

She needs it more to survive scar counter

[keen vapor]

What if RNG says no every bullet

It happened to my Liter once

[swift mango]

Better than nothing. Is that liter in 2rl team?

[keen vapor]

It was an attack team

But yes

[swift mango]

SMG still fire more bullet than MG in 2rl. But did your Liter SR15+Tempering?

[keen vapor]

SR 5

But seeing her HP go down so fast was a novelty

[swift mango]

Nothing weird about that.

Did you able to burst with liter before she died?

[keen vapor]

It's weird bc it never happens

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

No
But had jackal at hand

[swift mango]

You could have your liter linked.

[keen vapor]

Surprisingly, Scar Noah team no buff still good enough against enemy team

[keen vapor]

Ofc

Counter is targeted HP down blood

Neither Noah or centi have attack lines so they can't have more attack than MLB Liter

Wait.... WAIT

[keen vapor]

Nvm all of this

[keen vapor]

I didn't used Centi

I used Trina

And she got attack line somehow

So Liter wasn't linked after all

[oblique ridge]

It's time to plot

[keen vapor]

now I have to check if I've been attacked bc of you

[oblique ridge]

I'm in the mood to burn dolls, but idk what PvE units to burn them on. So I wondered about PvP

Then it occurred to me that I probably should investigate the most famous CA units in my groups

Surely, common units everybody uses are worthy of SR15 dolls?

I just have to identify them, then filter them by PvE!

hires lovely assistant to help out

Btw, I fell to rank 3 in my Rookie and SP

[keen vapor]

Wow must be nice to still be able to get 3k gems

[oblique ridge]

Runner-up teams (Attacker):

• (L) Scarlet, Trina, LMermaid, Anis, Jackal
• (W) TBSoda, Drake, MFAnne, Rosanna, Noir
• (L) Nero, Moran, Quiry, Helm, Rapunzel
• (L) Noise, Noah, Cinderella, IRMaiden, Rumani
• (L) Blanc, Emilia, RedH, Biscuit, Centi

Champion teams (Defender):

• (W) Noise, Noah, Cinderella, Helm, Rumani
• (L) SBScarlet, Blanc, Rapunzel, Emilia, Laplace
• (W) Drake, MF Anne, TBSoda, Noir, Rosanna
• (W) LMermaid, Trina, Scarlet, Centi, Jackal
• (W) Moran, Biscuit, Anis, SSAnis, IRMaiden

I used weird names because I'm a super villain.

I added win/lose. Were any of them a surprise?

Matchup 1:

• (L) Scarlet, Trina, LMermaid, Anis, Jackal
• (W) Noise, Noah, Cinderella, Helm, Rumani
  • Looks expected, it's Noah blocking Scarlet and Scarlet's team exposed against Cindy nuke. GG.

Matchup 2:

• (W) TBSoda, Drake, MFAnne, Rosanna, Noir
• (L) SBScarlet, Blanc, Rapunzel, Emilia, Laplace
  • I guess expected, if SG team is high investment and you believed in them.
  • SBScarlet actually died in under 1.5 seconds or so.

Matchup 3:

• (L) Nero, Moran, Quiry, Helm, Rapunzel
• (W) Drake, MF Anne, TBSoda, Noir, Rosanna
  • Same deal as Matchup 2, but Defending side's turn at revenge.
  • Blew up Rapunzel, then Helm. GG.

Matchup 4:

• (L) Noise, Noah, Cinderella, IRMaiden, Rumani
• (W) LMermaid, Trina, Scarlet, Centi, Jackal
  • How did this win... did LMermaid stun Noah?
  • Yep, Noah taunted LMermaid stun onto herself.

Matchup 5:

• (L) Blanc, Emilia, RedH, Biscuit, Centi
• (W) Moran, Biscuit, Anis, SSAnis, IRMaiden
  • Turns out Moran & IRMaiden were invincible at the time Emilia nukes their team. IRMaiden died shortly after.
  • Sole survivor Moran killed a near dead Emilia, then Biscuit, then Centi, in a 1v3 feat.

[livid rover]

Is this legit https://fixvx.com/DBdaisukiDaniel/status/1924061001412219213

Daniel (@DBdaisukiDaniel)

チャンピオンアリーナ・シュレーディンガーの最終回
主にオバロオプションの再調整、あとは採用理由がほぼない編成を省いた

動画バカ長いから、見るのであればタイムスタンプ推奨
https://youtu.be/_G_PvD_GpI8 https://t.co/afsXrZfimX

vxTwitter / fixvx · May 18, 2025, 11:14 AM

[oblique ridge]

(Moran killed them)

[oblique ridge]

Oh, looks like someone already did what I was going to and already shared it with the world

Saves me time

[livid rover]

Share it

[oblique ridge]

It was what you posted

[final wedge]

oh its biscuit blanc vs biscuit moran....yea.....the one with Moran win

[oblique ridge]

Yeah, both Moran and XMaiden were invincible when Emilia nuked their team

[final wedge]

strangely enuf......given dat condition.....SAnis + XMaiden boost is sufficient enuf for Moran to dps

[oblique ridge]

So they survived, then XMaiden died, then Moran killed Emilia (who had 1hp left), Biscuit, and Centi

Moran hero, though it was icing on the cake since the champion already got 3 won arounds. This was his 4th

[livid rover]

So you have the same thing or you are the account owner

[oblique ridge]

No, I didn't even actually start yet.. earlier I said I wanted to collect all teams in my CA groups

And filter by PvE... basically I needed a list of all viable highly rated CA pvp units

That image you shared seems to be it, already

[final wedge]

dat team formation have quite high win rate despite no AOE protection due to massive lifesteal dmg

[swift mango]

It's thanks too Emi team being so slow that Moran got Biscuit+Xmaid+Ass buff ready to survive

[livid rover]

Well but I'm too weak to play CA anyway. Still like top 40-60 of my group

[swift mango]

Noise, Rossanna, Moran, Rapu, Nero.

[oblique ridge]

I don't even use any of them in PvE

[swift mango]

But this is Arena chat.

[oblique ridge]

[swift mango]

I think I will just save for 100 rock before trying OL line again. Will have to cope with Biscuit and Noise not above 10% CS.

And Siren without 12 line and low CP....

Apparently using them at 10-20 rock and I lost everything for nothing

[tight finch]

Can top beat bottom? 👀

[swift mango]

P1: lose
P2: lose
P3:maybe win.
Probably lose

[covert lintel]

my rosanna next
she can make this blue again

[swift mango]

Why are u using my tower team.

[oblique ridge]

Interesting, even synergizes with SAnis

Basically has no kit though unless someone dies

[swift mango]

down to the positioning

[covert lintel]

some people disagreed with me but this was my team the entire time

[covert lintel]

she help me snipe annoying mob quickly even in motherwhale

we really need strong screenwipe tetra

[quick lake]

its just another tier list variation. Broadly correct

[final wedge]

we have .....BSoda is a strong screenwipe n Tetra ....tho is not as strong as Scarlet or othr screenwipe

[chilly furnace]

but in practice noir is more suitable

[tropic summit]

no problem you welcome

[tropic summit]

wew, but that's mostly your own work, good job sir

[shell hazel]

SR-15's? what sync are you?

[crystal flicker]

Should I put Tempering in Rapunzel stall?

[tropic summit]

he just found RH like 1 or 2 week ago

[tropic summit]

if she's supposed to take damage or tank a nuke yes, if you expect her to reach burst and survive, vigor for better heals

[shell hazel]

nah I mean 20 in total is quite a few to have, I got like 10 😛

[raven plover]

its done?

[terse dragon]

Verified

[wintry viper]

@tropic summit please help update my SP Arena defense

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-red-dwarf-so-what-is-gif-22212905

charge speed breakpoints for CS?

[terse dragon]

21% and 24% have the same effect

[shell hazel]

24% being 4 black lines?

(obviously insanely hard to do lol)

if that is right then 18% CS looks a bit better than the normal 17% CS rec, but I guess CS rounds up

[terse dragon]

One row of 5.51%, two rows of 5.8%, and one row of 6.09% would round up to 24%.

[quick lake]

As of now, there's quite a few variations of this. Different testers, getting different results

[terse dragon]

The two 4.63% will be rounded to 9%

[shell hazel]

do we know how the rounding works? is it sum of CS rounded to nearerst whole number? or is each CS rounded individually i.e. 5.9% acts as 6%

[terse dragon]

The same values ​​will be summed up first and then rounded

Different values ​​will be rounded directly

[raven plover]

5.51 is 6 right

[terse dragon]

yeah

[quick lake]

Any other source reference? other CN peeps getting breakpoints at 14/17/20/24%

slightly different from the pic u sent

[shell hazel]

where 5.4% would turn into 5% flat?

[quick lake]

So far these breakpoints are derived from rounding cs to nearest millisecond, thereafter converting to frame and rounding to nearest frame. So there's some small discrepancy here and there

[terse dragon]

My friends and I tested it one by one

[quick lake]

yep! cs% lines are rounded individually then added tgt. So 5.4% would be 5% yes

[shell hazel]

but if someone has 5.4% twice on gear, then they sum up and round as a group? so 10.8% becomes 11%?

[terse dragon]

You can refer to the entry for ammunition capacity, which also uses this rounding method.

[quick lake]

yeah, they should be summed. So 5.4 + 5.4 = 10.8 rounded to 11%

[terse dragon]

Yes, 3 lines of 5.8% will become 17%

[crystal flicker]

This either peak slow comp or brick

[quick lake]

Same tier OL gears are added then rounded. (and then eventually rounded elsewhere again. Reload time rounded to nearest 10 millisecond, other timings rounded to nearest millisecond, or rounded to nearest frame etc)

[spiral onyx]

I might want to reroll my Noah and Laplace lines. They are 17.33% and 17.04% respectively

[quick lake]

Still shock that 21% and 24% same cs% functionally

[rich quail]

Reroll them to what?

[quick lake]

18%, the next milestone

[terse dragon]

Yes, unless you carry a 2% 's Cube

[spiral onyx]

Reroll them to total more than 17.51% lol

Not gonna try to push my others to 21%, need to save up rocks

[shell hazel]

yeah it seems a disadvantage sometimes to have multiple of the same line 😄

as if you have 5.6% and 5.8% they both round to 12% together, where 5.6% twice is 11%...

[crystal flicker]

Does cube also gets rounded

[quick lake]

yes. So lv3 or lv7 cube is the same

[crystal flicker]

I mean if 1.59 gets rounded = 2?

[quick lake]

Yes

[shell hazel]

it's not too bad though as you need levels for slots

[crystal flicker]

Deez so peak

[shell hazel]

more than just raw CS%

[torn obsidian]

cs rounds up?

[shell hazel]

it does seem to yeah lol

or one assumes rounds down as well

[quick lake]

Thank you for your diligent testing Neko

[terse dragon]

[spiral onyx]

[shell hazel]

nice roll

[crystal flicker]

My Noah 19% still 19% with rounded lmao

[quick lake]

Individual OL lines are rounded first, then added tgt
So round(4.61) + round(4.92) = 5+5

[torn obsidian]

i mean the real question is was 15% enough all along or do we actually needed 18%

[crystal flicker]

Faster is better

[quick lake]

According to the chart, the break points are at 15%/18%/21%

[torn obsidian]

two of you aren't even answering my question

[crystal flicker]

25%

[quick lake]

15% should still be the bare minimum to B1 before opponent B3

Functionally, 15% imo

[torn obsidian]

according to them?

[spiral onyx]

Ok this was nicer

[shell hazel]

so base CS % roll is 4.92% if you get a phase 10

[quick lake]

Not from this chart, but based on the available data out there so far me maybe wrong ofc

[shell hazel]

and quantum rounds to 2%

so my Noah has 4.92% once (5%) and Quantum (2%) for 7% right?

[crystal flicker]

Wrong cube

[terse dragon]

yes

[quick lake]

u mean adjustant for the cs%..?

[shell hazel]

hey my Centi has decent CS and I didn't even realise...

so this groups the 4.92% 3 times and then rounds. (4.92 * 3) = 14.76 or 15% rounded

[terse dragon]

15%

[quick lake]

Yep

[shell hazel]

yeah or 17% CS on quantum but it's not adding any extra frames here due to not being 18%

so adding quantum to centi in this case does nothing

essentially it acts like 17% CS on nikke deck builder at 15%

[shell hazel]

quantum will just add 2% right? 🙂

[quick lake]

U're referring to cs adjutant cube

[torn obsidian]

actually I think the true breakpoint was 18% all along

[quick lake]

Quantum increase base burst gen
Adjutant increases cs%

[shell hazel]

ohh for some reason I assumed the quantum was CS lol

[quick lake]

21% to achieve 2.5RL time with 3 shots based on what I know.
But 15%/18%/21% should functionally be the same, allowing u to B1 before opponent B3 i.e. 2RL vs 2.5RL

[shell hazel]

teach me to read 🙂

[torn obsidian]

[crystal flicker]

This actually pretty nice, since I don't need to overinvest

[terse dragon]

unless you increase the CS% to 16%.

[shell hazel]

yeah you can use adjutant to boost to next tier

but it can not be worth it depending on how much you have

[quick lake]

From my own understanding

[shell hazel]

most of my batteries only have one 5% CS roll 😛

don't got the rocks to roll CS on them yet, I'll re-visit when I'm done rolling stuff better and hopefully have rumani in the bag

[shell hazel]

I see the logic but what is the optimal point here? rockets gotta travel and reload/charge so it's quicker but jumping another tier may not actually get you to burst any faster I suppose?

[quick lake]

Yes rocket travel time not accounted for

[shell hazel]

that is consistent across all the tiers anyway

it's frame rocket leaves launcher that is sped up

[crystal flicker]

Rocket Launcher don't have .5 tier tho

[shell hazel]

like the flat reload

[quick lake]

yes exactly

So if u really want to be super specific, u need like maybe 21% cs on P1/2 RLs then 18% cs on P3/4/5 or smthing to that effect

Havent math yet

Generally too micro to think about tbh

[shell hazel]

having some CS is good though but too much may not help I guess

[raven plover]

trying to math for scarlet mirror battle so my scarlet burst few frames faster than the enemy :

[crystal flicker]

Also Siren stun happened at 10% CS RL shot her 3rd volley

[quick lake]

Yeah. that’s the only case scenario tbh

[raven plover]

[rich quail]

I’m just afraid speeding up Emilia may screw up timing for burst but it seems nowadays people don’t use Emi burst

[crystal flicker]

Oh this doesn't change the calculator

With your data I have 21%

[spiral onyx]

Ok, charge speed tuning complete. My Noah B2s before Siren's stun now, at least in SP Arena

[shell hazel]

I rolled one of my noah bits to CS % but not sure how deep I wanna go here 😄

it's 4.92% + 4.63% so 10% rounded

[terse dragon]

yes

[shell hazel]

may just try and roll CS % on another piece instead of trying to reset that for more

[rich quail]

So then it’s ok to leave Noah at p1?

[shell hazel]

I can roll this for CS%

[quick lake]

As long as the calc shows ur team being 2.5RL with units with cs%

1 unit with cs% doesnt necessarily bump up team speed

[shell hazel]

no I know, but I figure some CS% is good 🙂

this should work

4.63% + 4.92% + 5.21% all round to 5% so 15%

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-punch-ground-punching-ground-it-shouldve-been-me-it-shouldve-been-me-not-him-gif-18069003738146878767

[spiral onyx]

No idea if SP Arena is the same as CA, we'll find out in a week I guess

[shell hazel]

phase 13 - 15 for CS% is 6% rounded

as phase 13 is 5.51%

[quick lake]

But 2x 5.51 is 11%

[spiral onyx]

I spent the remainder of my rocks on Emilia trying to lucksack 38%. Got two blue lines but far from enough

[terse dragon]

Yes, but two 5.8% will become 12%, and two 5.51% will be 11%

[shell hazel]

well that little adventure cost me 6 rocks lol

but I changed Noah from 5% CS to 15% which is the same as 17% CS on nikke deck

[crystal flicker]

So if I want to calc 22% cs, I should round it down to 21%?

And count that as 0.79RL?

[rich quail]

I hope it works for you

[spiral onyx]

Gonna be expensive rerolling this for a blue/black charge speed line while locking the atk line

[umbral crown]

Yes, im 371

[shell hazel]

ah good you got 70 levels on me, by the time I'm your level I hope for similar 😄

was seeing if I could get a faster cindy team without helm

[umbral crown]

thats the hope

[tropic summit]

that's a problem for the you of tomorrow, not for the you of today

[covert lintel]

i intended to make 2FB but the opponent not strong enough

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-woody-toy-story-sora-kh3-kh-gif-27223516

[midnight marsh]

[wise horizon]

a good counter to Scarlet/Blanc/RH/HelmT/Jackal or Scarlet/Noah/RH/HelmT/Jackal in Rookie Arena is Noah/Noise/Centi/Alice/Jackal?

[barren onyx]

is there a meta team guide ?

[swift mango]

Everyone 1 year old+ had the same start line with the doll system back then.

[fiery parcel]

Esp on t3

I won. But I'm not sure how

[swift mango]

You won because your biscuit last longer I guess.

[fiery parcel]

Btw what's the recommended build against this rookie team?

So many B2s RL

[swift mango]

Just process as is

[fiery parcel]

Siren will stun noah, but they still can burst?

[swift mango]

Could move Siren p2 if Noise doesn't steal taunt

[swift mango]

They can but your noah

[fiery parcel]

Yes u are right. Thanks

New puzzle

This guy is #1 in my rookie

[swift mango]

Move Siren p1. Or Just scar jackal it.

Could move Jackal p1 roo

[fiery parcel]

Like this?

Wouldnt their siren stun my scar?

[swift mango]

No

Jackal+Trina+Scar+RH+Crown

Or Jackal+Blanc+Scar+RH+Crown

[fiery parcel]

Ive never played scar in the middle before.

Crown is for cp buff or taunt?

[swift mango]

Just to slower the speed.

[fiery parcel]

Ehhhhh? That's a thing?

It gave me a scare

[shell hazel]

didn't we set scar elsewhere on your team yesterday? she still counters if anyone in the jackal link is attacked

so siren p1 scar p2/p3 still works and your own scar doesn't get siren'ed

[fiery parcel]

Yes. But that was for SPA

This is RA where people do bonkers

[shell hazel]

ah well same thing works in both 🙂

[fiery parcel]

Hahaha. I wasnt sure because ive never encountered noah noise siren team before

[shell hazel]

siren stunned your noah on t3 but still a win 😛

noah taunts so even if you move away from p1 she may still get stunned

if you sending into siren on attack you can try rumani p1 and noah p5 but if noah taunts she'll still get siren'ed at p5

or swap her and biscuit for p1/p2

I'd say rumani p1 / noah p5 is better in that case, but you'd have to re-run the same match and see if noah gets stunned still

[tardy canopy]

Won for tiny bit much

[swift mango]

not what exactly what I expected but okay.

[fiery parcel]

The win/lose is still a bit random. Found 4 times, win3, lost 1

Didnt expect the loss, so didnt record

But basically jackal got stunned by siren

[shell hazel]

jackal should still be quick enough to b1

[fiery parcel]

Not sure what happened

[swift mango]

You lost because Scar wasn't able to kill noise that's it

[fiery parcel]

So it's still random on scar being able to kill noise

Not sure what happened

Maybe trina didnt link with scar

Too bad cannot replay

[swift mango]

You got feed to 2rl so Jackal wasn't stun and burst instead of red hood.

[fiery parcel]

Yeah next time ill record it. Already finished my 5 RA tries today

[swift mango]

use siren or Rapu next time.

for better dmg.

if you could have a linked b3 fake out the stun in p1 you could burst with RH.

If only they made Mori a clip SG...

She would be instantly SS for Arena to me.

Please give me B2 defender clip SG. SU I beg you.

[dry bramble]

is Emilia worth it for her as burst 3 in pvp?

[terse dragon]

worth

But I think she is like scarlet, she has to invest a lot to become strong

[quick lake]

free good unit?

[terse dragon]

I'm still strengthening them.

[raven plover]

thats cracked already

[dry bramble]

what cube should I give Emilia? charge speed or burst charge?

[quick lake]

Have u won any CA

[dry bramble]

wanted to use her on my third team which is the slowest one to get burst charge

[raven plover]

twice

[terse dragon]

twice

[quick lake]

Congrats wow!! Well deserved

[terse dragon]

It depends on the lineup, both are reasonable choices

[dry bramble]

roger that

[swift mango]

I wished I got this luck.

1/4 this luck I mean

[covert lintel]

that's not luck
it's a dedication

[swift mango]

Then what is my 400 rocks without even getting the correct lines.

Should I just delete my account and quit game?

[raven plover]

[terse dragon]

I rarely use rocks for PVE characters.

[raven plover]

400 on scarlet? hows the result

[swift mango]

2 ammo 4 Crit 2ATK 1 Ele 1 DEF 1 CS.

[raven plover]

2 black atk surely

[swift mango]

Only 1 ammo and 1 ATK blue

[raven plover]

[swift mango]

Maybe by 1000 rocks I will get white lines like him

I don't even want my Scarlet to have black blue, I just wanted correct lines

[keen vapor]

@neat harness I woke up to say you to put vigor cube on Noir unless Liter got 4 attack lines or something

[swift mango]

Last time I saved 100 rock for scarlet I came out with absolutely nothing.

So I just leave her as is and invest in Other units instead

[keen vapor]

How I never got ammo*

[raven plover]

did you use 400 roks tho

[swift mango]

Well, accumulate it should be around there. At least 300.

[raven plover]

I thought echo never got ammo on his scarlet

[swift mango]

Idk Echo not getting Ammo is actually countering Siren. Good for him.

[covert lintel]

my emi still low

[raven plover]

thats good for me, better than mine

[swift mango]

Very good already.

[terse dragon]

I originally wanted to train this Lapras for PVP, but the appearance of Trina made Lapras's "charge speed" too fast and the second shot could not hit Scarlet at all.

[covert lintel]

i want ED to have above 50% so she can be used in pve more

[raven plover]

[covert lintel]

super laplace
ig any p2 electric would be dead with 2 or 3 shot

[terse dragon]

yes it's fun

[coarse lake]

bruh.... I think you're doing it inefficiently

are you hunting for line 3 while having line 1 or 2 locked

[glacial lion]

3m dmg from 1 normal atk?

[swift mango]

Well, I did but I got exactly 2 line 3 for 200 rock. The rate of line 3 drop was 1/30 for me, not 1/3.

[swift mango]

It's just too far in after the first 2 rolls to stop

[terse dragon]

Scarlet's equipment is also very important.

[coarse lake]

most of the time it's just better to full reroll until you get a line 3 you want

[swift mango]

Nooooo stopit.

[coarse lake]

the one time where scar without jackal pays off

[swift mango]

Who would have though that after locking 1+2 the chance of line 3 drop isn't 30% but 3% ???

Not me.

Not until I lost hard for it.

[shell hazel]

rolling for line 3 to appear is super pain

[coarse lake]

problem here is, getting line 3 on fresh costs 1 rock each

getting line 3 with 1+2 lock costs 3 rock each

3x the cost

add on bad luck, well there goes half a year's worth of rocks

[swift mango]

But I should get 10 line 3 to choice from after 100 rocks rather than just 1 right?

[coarse lake]

gotta stop avoiding things that can multiply bad luck into catastrophic disaster

[swift mango]

Right?

[shell hazel]

they need to add some way to pity them because such bad luck isn't impossible

[coarse lake]

many cheap rolls over few expensive rolls

[glacial lion]

i forgot noah taunt pos1...

[shell hazel]

yeah noah taunt can hurt 😄

[coarse lake]

use noise with proper taunt prio la

[swift mango]

Like I said, I couldn't stop after the first 2. Sunk cost fallacy kick in.

[coarse lake]

just... don't get yourself into that situation in the future smh

[shell hazel]

what is CS for noise taunt over noah?

[coarse lake]

don't lock line 1 or 2 unless blue/black ele/atk

[glacial lion]

nah, just gonna skip this team

[coarse lake]

depends on position and also game mode

ca taunt prio is a bit diff

generally noah on higher cs or equal

[shell hazel]

alright my noah has more atm so that's fine

if noah has more CS then you noise p1 / noah p2/p5? or keep noah p1 and noise taunts off with less CS?

[coarse lake]

well depends on your backup unit

[coarse lake]

[shell hazel]

nothing amazing, for my CA, pepper

I need other stuff elsewhere and no rumani so pepper cope for now

[coarse lake]

well you want noah taunt there, otherwise they get extra gen

or swap noise and noah I suppose

[shell hazel]

well that was my thinking, if noise is p1, then noah p2, should be siren immune if noah has more CS? 😄

[coarse lake]

yes

[shell hazel]

ideally don't want to skip noah burst, if pepper happens to burst instead of noise then it's OK

[coarse lake]

consider swapping pepper and cindy as well

to deal with defending siren + sgs

[shell hazel]

I considered it wasn't sure, if defending SG they'll shoot at cindy decoy right?

think pepper is defender so she should get immunity via biscuit

but she's weaker so p4 is probably a safer place for her to stay

[placid bloom]

nah there's no defender clip SG, Pepper is support

[shell hazel]

damn pepper, alright that makes more sense then lol

[covert lintel]

what about if we are getting blue or black on line 1 or 2?

[shell hazel]

so noise / noah / biscuit / pepper / cindy

I'll adjust it thanks 🙂

[coarse lake]

then if it's atk/ele on a character that really wants it, sure you can gamble for the other lines

[placid bloom]

feel like OG Maiden shoulda been defender, her skills are better suited to be defender

[coarse lake]

but that's like the only situation

[swift mango]

I just locked good 1+3 and rolled 10 times recently for no line 2, how should I fix that?

[shell hazel]

you can't really I've had similar luck

50/50's aren't 50/50 at all haha

[coarse lake]

what was the line 1

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

they need to fix rock drops as well it's so slow, yesterday 0-0-0 rocks, can't even roll anything 😛

[swift mango]

CS line 1 and ammo line 3 for Noah?

[covert lintel]

i want this to be perfect atk and ed
should i 2 rock or 3 rock reroll?

[swift mango]

Reroll more so your luck would be bad like mine.

[shell hazel]

2 good lines I'd move on if you have better things to roll

line 3 cp pads a bit

[coarse lake]

.... tf you even going for on noah

what are you locking line 3 ammo for

[swift mango]

CP pad

[coarse lake]

bruh....

then either no lock or just lock line 3

[swift mango]

Why not locking it?

[swift mango]

How do I keep my tier 11 CS then?

Another 200 rock to reroll attribute?

I spent around 100 rock on Jackal for attribute reroll and couldn't even get 1 tier 11 CS

That's when I know my luck will never improve

[coarse lake]

inherently bad luck + obsession with 3 line every pvp unit is your problem

with a dose of bad roll strat a lot of the time

[keen vapor]

Then I shouldn't pad this?

@swift mango I haven't got line 3 in like 14 rolls

Not every roll on the same unit btw

Btw, I'm not making it to top 6 this season

Neither did I previous one

[swift mango]

No just roll 1 rock until you get CS...this isn't even a question.

[keen vapor]

I've lost 2 pulls worth of gems and will never recover from this

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

This is Rumani

I thought we didn't wanted Rumani with CS

[swift mango]

[covert lintel]

any clip rl should rolled cs

[keen vapor]

@covert lintel I've got too many CS so I think I won't get much in the next 10 rolls

[covert lintel]

cindy first then if you are not confident to get cs for a while

[keen vapor]

Cinderella is a cost of 2, to increase max ammo %

No bottom line btw

[keen vapor]

Wait a minute, I need to take note o something

Yeah, this is good stuff

[granite anchor]

the dude in here asking how to beat my rookie comp attacked me 18 times yesterday lmao

[keen vapor]

Did he got an answer?

[coarse lake]

[granite anchor]

not a consistent one, he went 6-12

[shell hazel]

coconut man?

[granite anchor]

yea

[shell hazel]

haha

he beat all of us

[granite anchor]

at what

[shell hazel]

moaning at us we all got defeated 😄

[shell hazel]

they really had it in for you 😛

gemming to attack in rookie is crazy

read all the chat they were complaining when they didn't win

[umbral crown]

Waos

[coarse lake]

gimme message link

[shell hazel]

start here but it goes on for a bit
#pvp-arena message

not once did they thank anyone for even trying just complained when they didn't win 😄

[umbral belfry]

[cold steeple]

How do I counter this team?

Scarlet 2RL burst?

[shell hazel]

[shell hazel]

Noah p1 just run siren at it probably works

[cold steeple]

You mean just replace my current team any Burst 1 with Siren?

[shell hazel]

you can noah to catch cindy return nuke

do you have more than one try to use?

[cold steeple]

Definitely

[coarse lake]

wow that's a nice read

[shell hazel]

that's a 2RL cindy opponent

[coarse lake]

hey, if you replace trina with helmt, would scar still be linked

[granite anchor]

i dont think so. my scar 0lb, helm has some cores

[cold steeple]

Do I try with Emilia team? I do nuke them out except Cindy and Noah

[shell hazel]

try sending this if your CP is good/within range

you need to be within 85% of enemy cp roughly

880K minimum

[cold steeple]

Not even close hehe ard 779k

[granite anchor]

why do you ask?
i mostly dont care about rookie defense, i just change it a lot to fw the guy who posts here

[shell hazel]

it's working 😄

[cold steeple]

My trina is not built yet

[coarse lake]

so you can defend better against that guy

[shell hazel]

ok we can try something else hold on

[coarse lake]

replace trina with a clip rl with higher cp, and/or helmt for more buff

[cold steeple]

Btw is this some kind of app or website

[coarse lake]

the trina invuln is causing you to sometimes rh indom

[umbral crown]

Yeah

[granite anchor]

ah i see. i'll see if i can get helm there but i doubt it. could just put centi ig

[shell hazel]

yeah helm T swap in may work, or try this

[coarse lake]

if cent is higher cp than trina, yeah use centi

[keen vapor]

I'll take Eon silence as I shouldn't roll Rumani then

[shell hazel]

you need 3 quantums out to get this 2RL

[granite anchor]

yea she is

[coarse lake]

like blood said, get cs if you want, otherwise don't bother

2 lines is plenty

[shell hazel]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[cold steeple]

Alright let me try it first will get back to u in a sec

[shell hazel]

sure, can record if you want

also you can try a version of what I sent before with helm t added but you have to watch who is linked

jackal probably links with scar/helm here

you can check in any battle with that team, pause it on start and inspect which units have the jumpin jack flash buff on, there should be two besides jackal herself

so shooting range or AI mock or w/e

don't need any quantums there but it remembered where the cubes were 😛

[cold steeple]

Tried the team with Cindy apparently maybe my CP is low 860k can’t kill all of them

I’ll try the second team

[shell hazel]

if you can record and post here we can also see how it goes, optional ofc

[cold steeple]

890k CP couldn’t nuke it

[cold steeple]

Best should be with this team I guess

[onyx scaffold]

dunno why the team didn't work

[shell hazel]

you could also try stalling and just healing up with helm burst if your treasure is phase 3 and your helm is built well enough

recordings of how the matches go does help a lot 🙂

[cold steeple]

Alright lemme try again and record it if I lose

[shell hazel]

yeah this is below deficit, 880k is your bare minimum

890K wouldn't face any issues of deficit here though

[shell hazel]

damn

what was your cp there?

[covert lintel]

try all sg

[onyx scaffold]

that noah is linked

but the point is why she didn't work

[covert lintel]

oh rip

[cold steeple]

Ard 890k

Wait no it’s 900k

[coarse lake]

why are you running sg into that team

[onyx scaffold]

[shell hazel]

just checking I calced the deficit OK and it looks fine so it's not that

[covert lintel]

iirc jackal get unlinked after ros 10ammo
that mean he get lot of feed from your team

[cold steeple]

@shell hazel this team works, I just pull the cp up

[shell hazel]

ah yeah figured it might do if you can stop their noah

they have no def against your cindy burst

[cold steeple]

Thanks buddy

[shell hazel]

np 🙂

[cold steeple]

Appreciate it a lot

[covert lintel]

i thought it would be siren that get linked

[shell hazel]

good tip for any noah p1 can be your own siren if they're not running any taunters

[onyx scaffold]

hmm i saw SG team beat scar jack but it was with anne and bsoda died quickly. ig the team could work if my bsoda dies faster.

[cold steeple]

Alright

[shell hazel]

check the speeds on the site I linked earlier can be worth it too, so you can check you're not running something super slow into 2RL

[onyx scaffold]

i was simply toying with my sg team.

[cold steeple]

The speed of the team is the one in the squared bracket right

[shell hazel]

yes

1RL is roughly 1 second, % less than 100% of that will show you how close it gets to it

so if you're 100% or more for 3RL but say 80% of 2RL, you'll probably still just be 3RL

[cold steeple]

Alright, I kinda get the idea, just that I still dunno what kind of team to counter opponent team like I look at the opponent team but I have no idea what should I use to win 🤷‍♂️

[shell hazel]

jackal is a bit of an exception here as anyone on her link who is attacked adds some burst gen

[cold steeple]

Ya this one I know

[shell hazel]

it's worth watching the matches sometimes or considering how the opponents / your bursts interact

i.e. here we stopped noah burst which prevents the enemy going immune

meanwhile your own Noah bursts to protect you against their cindy nuke

[cold steeple]

Hmm I think I kinda get it. If enemy has Noah, it’s either we stall or we nuke before she burst or our Noah burst later than enemy’s

Then at this point just fit whatever units we have in and make sure it’s within the CP deficit

[shell hazel]

yeah, though you need to be careful with the whatever units thing, due to speed

most pve units don't have good burst gen hence we use batteries like centi / trina / rumani etc

[cold steeple]

Yup gonna take some time to learn this

Anyways thanks for the tips

[shell hazel]

np 🙂

[silent hinge]

Who should i get between jackal, trina and rumani?

I still haven’t use new year selection box

[shell hazel]

I doubt trina is an option she was released afterwards

[coarse lake]

jackal

[shell hazel]

check it - if not I support Jackal > Rumani

[silent hinge]

Damn u are right

[shell hazel]

and even if she was .. probably still Jackal 😄

[silent hinge]

I spend 200 tickets for her and all goes to nothing

[shell hazel]

[silent hinge]

All skills 10 10 10 ?

[shell hazel]

umm no

that would be a waste haha

jackal is 4/4/4

[silent hinge]

Oh i thought we just maxed her out

Got ya

[shell hazel]

no that would be a huge waste haha

check the character investment tips before you burn too many skill books on anyone in general over at prydwen
https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/characters/jackal

[silent hinge]

Ah i forgot about this web

[shell hazel]

they're not always 100% right but damn better than burning 10 skills on jackal at the least 😄

4/4/4 on units you use is kind of cheap enough to whatever, but beyond that I always like to at least check what is rec

[silent hinge]

Was looking through pinned guide but skill recommendations slot just filled with -

[unborn latch]

There a resource site that shows CA arena winners teams? Some of these repeat winners on JP like nekoworki got me interested in seeing what other people have cooked so i can get an idea on what characters to invest into.

Gonna be real I've been rolling with OJ armor characters and it's not doing so well

[shell hazel]

looking at teams used doesn't always help me for two reasons:
a) I don't have rumani and she is a core unit for pvp
b) people have units my brackets don't have like emilia and s.anis and such

[swift mango]

Will shorten it for you: I don't have Rumani and Emi.

[shell hazel]

that basically lol

[dire root]

Oh sweet I win. I think.

Go back to school, "commynity" is not how you spell community.

<@&946725432554836008>

[shell hazel]

RH p1

[umbral belfry]

RH b2

[keen vapor]

RH what

[polar isle]

do you guys have rh

[signal hull]

RH why?

[keen vapor]

@umbral crown has one RH

[shell hazel]

core 6 truly mihara slave

[signal hull]

pff only core 6, not even max...

[shell hazel]

probably hoping for random free one on single pulls before the banner goes

[polar isle]

hope get it from free pull

i have spend 278 pull on mihara TT

[signal hull]

Perhaps you mean 278 tenpulls, because I spent over 150 pulls on Siren and only got one.

[polar isle]

260 pull maybe with 1 from mileg

30 free ticket

[signal hull]

That's nuts.

Especially considering she's 1%.

[umbral belfry]

the last day before sp reshuffle

[limpid nebula]

how do you know tho? is it like a consistent few days/wk interval?

[umbral belfry]

1. It said in the news/patch notes
2. Rookie just had their reshuffle last week
3. Reshuffle for both is every 3 months

When it says 'reorganizing', that's how you know it's a reshuffle

[limpid nebula]

i see i see hoppppe no more casher from older servers be in our new SPA bracklet

[umbral belfry]

[limpid nebula]

over time SPA ranking goes lower and gem income drop drastically

[umbral belfry]

pray that you are free from whales

perhaps you will find dolphins instead

[signal hull]

I don't want a reshuffle, I'm very comfy and stress-free in my guaranteed top 3 :/

[umbral belfry]

maybe you'll still be with your top 3

[limpid nebula]

💳

[signal hull]

https://tenor.com/view/sheldon-stressed-big-bang-theory-breathe-relax-gif-16802344

[dim sapphire]

any point going beyond 50% attack rosa that i have right now 👀

[solemn matrix]

It's probably going to rotate into whatever roster was last SP Arena season.

[umbral belfry]

This will only be my 2nd reshuffle ever so i cannot confirm nor deny this possibility

[solemn matrix]

When in doubt always assume the worst scenario

[dim sapphire]

this rotation is always bad news for the f2p. every rotation push me down champ arena, if lucky can go back up

[umbral belfry]

as long as i remain top 3 for my 3k gems i'm fine with whatever

[solemn matrix]

Pretty sure for you, it's only F2PBTW that you have to pay attention right?

[dim sapphire]

im talking about my f2p acc xd

[solemn matrix]

Oh pft.

[umbral belfry]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

what happens if you don't anymore, will Hime finally choose violence?

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/xenoverse-goku-super-saiyan-angry-dbz-gif-1416275111944307575

[dim sapphire]

who are u tho, u know my name i guess

i try to be discreet here

but it doesnt matter

[solemn matrix]

7 in SP Arena.

Doesn't really matter, pretty active in co-op chat tab for this discord.

[limpid nebula]

i just got Tdrake, is investing on her worth? seems like she only works as a PVP battery and once a mnth SR/UR

[umbral belfry]

Gonna need to add the DBZ's Majin marking on my forehead if that happens to me

[tropic summit]

super locked in

[umbral belfry]

Basically a must for raids iirc. decent battery and also a must for CA SG teams

[solemn matrix]

Super built Drake

[limpid nebula]

then 747?

[umbral belfry]

I wouldn't personally use for SP though maybe attacking vs a non-jackal team

[umbral belfry]

Skill-wise I'm not sure about Drake+

But 7/4/7 doesn't seem too bad

[shell hazel]

damnit was just doing that Hime 😄

[signal hull]

But why are you asking if she's worth it AFTER getting her?!

[limpid nebula]

101010 is rough, maybe next fire SR i will up her

[umbral belfry]

You gotta be quicker than that

[shell hazel]

I was fast but also slow

[limpid nebula]

so i can estimate a minimum investment on her in future, i got her for cp pad SPA and the event mission

[signal hull]

She's not amazing for SPA, she's mostly for CA.

SPA - only three teams, you'll find better setups than her.

[solemn matrix]

When's our next delivery of public welfare skill books.

[limpid nebula]

yeah f2p CA not priority as well

[signal hull]

speaking about skill books and all that, I'm SO disappointed, I was sure they'll make every weekend from now on a Full Burst Day 😢

(just venting)

[limpid nebula]

on yeah i realise this wkend is not full burst

[umbral belfry]

this reminded me that overclock reset today i think, back to farming

that takes me so long

[dim sapphire]

oh yeah, who u fighting against right now bringing you to this channel?

[solemn matrix]

Honestly lurk here sometimes just to read. Longest time didn't know how burst gen works and just cookie cutter auto.

[umbral belfry]

[solemn matrix]

https://tenor.com/2lsS.gif

[shell hazel]

annnndddddd.. done

[tropic summit]

6 rocks

[solemn matrix]

Rocks as consistent event rewards when 👀

[tropic summit]

in my scamming gacha game? noway

[shell hazel]

I got 0 yesterday hoping for the same (or more) today

wouldn't be surprised if the game gives me negative rocks and I go into rock debt however

[solemn matrix]

Just for you they'll put up a overclock equipment stat simulator on blabla just to tell you how many rocks it'll take for you to finish a piece of equipment.

[queen lintel]

can I get some help with PVP teams? Been a while since I tried paying attention to it and wanted to get back in. Got 1 more pic to post after this, just the last row.

[solemn matrix]

Rookie or SP Arena?

[queen lintel]

SP

I suppose both, actually, I wouldn't mind

[dire root]

Wow they have 34k combat power more in rolls alone? And 4 levels.

I guess it could also be more level 5 gear

Ah I still win though so it's fine.

[shell hazel]

RH p1?

[dire root]

No Siren P1.

Siren stunned right before death and RH got to B1

I reordered so Crown was B2

[shell hazel]

good, RH doing all bursts was madness 😄

[crystal flicker]

Have Mod's skin
Sync 253
Yeah, you need at least sync 300+ / 500K each team to compete at top 70, well invested to go top 50, and more sync to go higher

[shell hazel]

1 rock 😦

[crystal flicker]

Think I'm done cooking my CA comp

[queen lintel]

working on it, lol.

[dire root]

Why though?

Oh right this is the whale that has been in number 1 since the start.

[shell hazel]

kind of a hollow victory though if you just buy it but OK 😄

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Trina RH Centi Jackal
Noise Noah Cindy HelmT Rumani
Blanc Emilia Biscuit Siren Anis

Just put T1 for rookie.

[crystal flicker]

Whale loves lazying around, if you're "diligent" enough you can catch up with early whale

[limber patrol]

is Drake able to one shot enemy team on pvp?

[queen lintel]

Trina, really? Interesting. I didn't know she was good

[crystal flicker]

She's good for Scarlet

[shell hazel]

trina? hell yeah she's good

even without scarlet she is basically another centi for clip RL gen

[crystal flicker]

Sadly Arcana isn't Clip RL

[queen lintel]

I assume these are for ATK, what about for DEF?

or is it the same?

[shell hazel]

Trina is 2nd highest burst gen unit

[crystal flicker]

Just use same comp tbh, it'll burden your investment too much since you also need to invest to PvE Nikke

[crystal flicker]

#pvp-arena message
Otherwise you want to read this

[umbral crown]

Give another one

[shell hazel]

Working on LapT next but gonna be a bit

sadly not that much left to get from the drake event even if I bought all levels now (which I won't)

but maybe enough kits to have a good run at SR-15 for next solo raid 🙂

[umbral crown]

Gib

[limber patrol]

does drake one shot enemy team on pvp?

[crystal flicker]

Her burst? only 1 shot 1 Nikke

[limber patrol]

why only 1?

[crystal flicker]

Bcoz her burst only cover small arena

[limber patrol]

who will be good aoe for the 3rd team?

currently using Scarlet and Cinderella

[crystal flicker]

ScarBS Emi ReiT

[limber patrol]

no emilia

How to use Scarlet Black Shadow?

[crystal flicker]

Blanc

Blanc ScarBS X X X

[limber patrol]

how to use the team? or Blanc's indomitable always work?

[crystal flicker]

If Blanc and ScarBS survives yes

ScarBS P2 guarantee Indom from splash damage

Just how you manage the team speed with ClipRL and ClipSG

[limber patrol]

what RL do I aim for?

[crystal flicker]

3RL

or faster

[limber patrol]

so who has to go on p1 so I can get indomitable on sbs?

[crystal flicker]

Blanc P1 obv

The rest depend on how you make her survives till burst

[limber patrol]

but she will die

[crystal flicker]

You can slot Biscuit there to make her survive as long as possible

[limber patrol]

will this be okay?

[crystal flicker]

Using HelmT there means your Cindy is slower than 2RL right

[limber patrol]

yeah

3 RL now

how to balance?

this is the other thing I can try but Scarlet will not be 2RL now

[raven plover]

that jack team is 2 RL

[limber patrol]

what?

[raven plover]

jack feed and scar s2 gonna make it 2 RL

[limber patrol]

wait team 3 will not burst, missing B1 now lmao

I can only change Biscuit out...

or Anis out to put Rumani...

[keen vapor]

@clear vessel ASDF attacked you around an hour ago

But I also know that Pach used her 2 attacks so that'll be less troublesome to attack

[limber patrol]

somehow that never is the case

will this work?

[raven plover]

[keen vapor]

No 5%?

[limber patrol]

5% what?

[keen vapor]

Burst gen gained from feed

[limber patrol]

I think Noise will die...

[keen vapor]

She has SR 5?

[limber patrol]

ye

[keen vapor]

Then no, trust

Noah has higher CS right?

[limber patrol]

only 1 blue line

biscuit gets the indomitable...

[coarse lake]

sg issue

there is never a case where you run p5 biscuit

[crystal flicker]

If you use 2 Defender + Biscuit, the formation should be Defender X Biscuit X Defender

[limber patrol]

how to fix

[crystal flicker]

Besides, you should NEVER run ScarBS against Biscuit + Defender

[limber patrol]

who goes on p5 then

[keen vapor]

Rumani

[limber patrol]

no one got indomitable now idk this team just don't work

for some reason Centi almost out dps SBS too

[shell hazel]

[crystal flicker]

Did you even read what I said

[limber patrol]

I have nowhere else to run it, that's why it's the third team. to fight the third team of the enemy

will die to the first team because low combat power + Blanc will get stun
will die to the second team because is a 2RL aoe
and loses to the third team because indomitable doesn't work

[crystal flicker]

You should just share the comp smh

[limber patrol]

wdym?

[limber patrol]

what's ReiT?

Could maid privaty work?

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[crystal flicker]

Rei Tentative has one of the highest Nuke in the game

[crystal flicker]

You building this to beat others no?

[limber patrol]

yes, well my other 2 teams are the ones beating the enemy, but I want a 3rd strong team so they can't compete

what team would ReiT need? is she really my best option because she's unbuilt

can normal privaty kill?

[calm kettle]

@slender forge last day at ch 10 rip 3k gem ++ at rookie not worth, should at sp for ca lel wrong looks

[crystal flicker]

No, your ScarBS team with Bisc should be fine, you can always replace ScarBS with another AoE Nuke with enough dmg

[daring remnant]

Not sure how I managed c3 when surrounded by whales, and yet here I am

[coarse solstice]

They don't seem like they are whaling to hard

Good shit either way

[daring remnant]

Nah, just medz

I was just exaggerating cuz of the big cp gap

[coarse solstice]

What's your server number? Curious to see where we are at in filling baby CA

[daring remnant]

It's 11298

[swift mango]

now hold it.

[coarse solstice]

Gotcha. Mines 10670, so feel like not to much longer and we'll be bot free

Be quicker if they expanded who all qualified

[crystal flicker]

Idk why these new accounts has gacha skins

[swift mango]

@keen vapor found another you.

[daring remnant]

😶 i will certainly try lol

[coarse solstice]

Because they're sweet ❤️

[keen vapor]

I'm not brick

[daring remnant]

ive been holding in the 4-6 range consistently

[keen vapor]

Me too

[daring remnant]

im sooo close to CA i can almost taste it

[coarse solstice]

Ready for that shuffle ?

[daring remnant]

maybe by season 5

[keen vapor]