pvp-arena

[placid bloom]

so that would make Rapu highest? Since she's supp in a group of defender

but it's not DrakeT so I think SBS doesn't die before Helm nuke

[umbral belfry]

rapu should have time to revive sbs no? helm nukes at 3.16, rapu revives at 3.32

[shell hazel]

this was what I ran this season. I'm working a bit on Ros/Moran/DrakeT atm (I should have DrakeT by the next CA just need 5 bond levels)

[umbral belfry]

rapu higher atk than sbs? that sounds impossible unless sbs isn't invested for some reason

[shell hazel]

quantum is only 6, stuff like temperance is 5, my cube levels are lower but so are my opponents

[placid bloom]

I meant if SBS dies at like 2.5RL or something to normals

but it's not DrakeT so unlikely

[shell hazel]

main lacking pvp core unit is rumani, and some units that ran before I started (s.anis and emilia etc)

[umbral belfry]

CS might factor in that too but we have no way of knowing how much each has

[placid bloom]

unless that Drake has insane ele lines with no treasure

[umbral belfry]

overall i do see cup winning but it shouldn't be a wash

once again ace has to pray for soda 😭

[shell hazel]

no rush from my side, should have everything you need above hopefully, interested what you cook up but whatever it is I'll send it and will be fun to watch how it goes! 🙂

[placid bloom]

round 5 is a bit weird, it mostly depends on if Cup's Ros can one-shot BSoda and Maiden

if she can then Ace has no B3

since Noir is dying right away

[umbral belfry]

how are their rosa investments

[placid bloom]

both 80k but Ace's dolls not R15, so that means slightly higher skill level since less CP from doll

or slightly better OL

[umbral belfry]

both roea are gonna go off at the same time due to noir dying, and afterwards i have no clue 😭 i can't confidently guess which sg rosa team wins that one

[placid bloom]

but if it's just OL inflation from irrelevant stat then it's no good

well Noir should die first because DrakeT

[umbral belfry]

yeah I'm not sure then

[placid bloom]

ele advantage there

[umbral belfry]

yeah

[placid bloom]

so Ros kills BSoda + half damage to DrakeT, Cup Ros fires back at BSoda Maiden

[shell hazel]

oh this was an idea of my investment / cp for the teams I ran btw

[umbral belfry]

I'm not sure truly anything goes there

[lime night]

could anyone recommend a team comp against this? thanks

[dire root]

[umbral belfry]

I have it ? (Leaning Ace)
W Cup (unless moran and bay stunned than Ace)
? Leaning Cup, I don't think an uninvested non treasure Drake will kill an decent invested SBS + rapu should revive sbs after helm nuke)
Cup
?

Too close

good thing idc about cheering frames anymore, gl @wet crystal 😭

[dire root]

I hope my alt that is going for loser frame didn't get the CUP cheer fight.

[placid bloom]

well it's in theory a 40% chance to stun Bay

so almost a coinflip

[dire root]

[umbral belfry]

Rng in rng arena

[dire root]

It's funny P1 is almost a mirror

[umbral belfry]

I'm leaning towards ace there bc xmaid, her normals hurt

[dire root]

Does P1 make it to 2nd burst?

probably not

[placid bloom]

no because Noise dies on both teams

[umbral belfry]

I dont think so no

[placid bloom]

and she's 40 sec cd

well Cup has Pepper

but he has no B3

[umbral belfry]

mhm

[dire root]

Yeah I saw pepper and was wondering if pepper and biscuit bursting would change things

[placid bloom]

it would take too long

since Biscuit probably dies from rocket splash due to Noah taunt

[umbral belfry]

mightve been better for cup to do noah pos1 noise pos2

but I'm assuming different taunt priority

[dire root]

Wait who taunts? Noah and Noise both have taunt.

[placid bloom]

rocket that lands last taunts

[umbral belfry]

Yes, but CS on one higher will change that

[placid bloom]

so whoever charges slower

there's travel speed too

but it should be Noah taunting for Cup based on prev match video

[umbral belfry]

then noise gets splash dmg regardless no?

[placid bloom]

yeah

[umbral belfry]

yeah I still lean ace for that

[placid bloom]

she's still getting shot at by 3-5 for 1RL anyway

before invin kicks in

[dire root]

In P3 T Helm is a heavy hiter and they are kind of slow at 3RL wonder if SBS dies.

[placid bloom]

then Biscuit and Noise die to rocket splash after while Noah has invin from Biscuit

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

nah that one should always be losing for Helm team

[umbral belfry]

which?

[placid bloom]

SBS dies, gets revived into Blanc indom and enemy team is full single target into indom SBS

Blanc even counters the Moran reduc

[umbral belfry]

Ah yeah I'm thinking sbs wins that one too

unfortunate for 2 rl helm team

[placid bloom]

SBS literally has to die before Helm nuke so Helm can nuke someone else

[umbral belfry]

if sbs was 2 or 2.5 I think that would've been a loss for them

[placid bloom]

well if it was 2RL she'd have indom already

so Helm nuke does nothing anyway

[umbral belfry]

ah true

[dire root]

lol that mirror.

[umbral belfry]

then 2.5? I didn't check timings there

[umbral belfry]

I say anything goes there 😭

[placid bloom]

if Noir dies in 1 volley, Viper might actually die first

in which case they lose the Viper nuke on B2

[umbral belfry]

then again, i wonder if no draket on ace's would change anything

simply for the atk bonus

[placid bloom]

that's only on FB

[dire root]

Bottom does have higher investment.

[placid bloom]

the Noir buff is continuous

[umbral belfry]

ahh

[placid bloom]

and Cup's Noir is still gonna be alive after Ace's dies

[umbral belfry]

maybe leaning cup for that one then

[placid bloom]

it's <R15 Noir vs R15 BSoda on Cup for first targets

with ele advantage to Cup

[umbral belfry]

[dire root]

I cheer for CUP I guess.

[placid bloom]

so Noir should always die first, possibly 1 volley

but 1 volley is not enough for Ros to burst yet

so if Viper dies right after Noir

then they stop right after Ros nuke, whereas Cup gets to Ros nuke into Viper nuke into at worst Noir FB

assuming they can burn through DrakeT after Ros nuke

still have to see how it actually plays out

[umbral belfry]

wouldn't both rosa burst at the same time though? s2 is regardless of which unit dies on the team

[placid bloom]

I don't remember if it counts enemies

[umbral belfry]

I asked around people who Pvp'd for a long time and they said yes

so I can only go off based their info

[placid bloom]

maybe

[umbral belfry]

that's why I'm 50/50 on that match

[placid bloom]

oh actually Ace's Ros is a lot weaker

[umbral belfry]

I feel like it'll go down to investments

[placid bloom]

I thought they were both 80k

[umbral belfry]

what's ace?

[placid bloom]

it's <R15 75k vs R15 85k

[umbral belfry]

oof

might be cup then

[placid bloom]

Cup's Viper is also stronger

purple doll C2

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

Ace's Viper just has too high of a chance to die before bursting is what's swaying me

[umbral belfry]

yeah that's fair

[tropic summit]

skip T2, your teams are on the left

if for w/e reason your T3 isn't lethal, use T3 against T2 and skip T3

[umbral belfry]

God I'm glad I don't care about cheer frames anymore

Gl to anyone cheering for that then

now to rush SR before work

[placid bloom]

I shoulda been done last season

[dire root]

My alt got it. My loser frame is in so much danger.

[sleek imp]

Rail tracer what website or spreadsheet is that

Can I try that too

[tropic summit]

check pinned
#pvp-arena message

The other is option is this one
https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[sleek imp]

Okay tyty

[umbral belfry]

Sopa learning pvp

[sleek imp]

Just learned what RL mean yesterday bro 😭

[grand plaza]

Help

[umbral belfry]

It's okay, we've all been there. baby steps

[umbral crown]

I remember my era on D1 when i was using auto teams

Made it to C7 that way

[sleek imp]

Dam

[umbral belfry]

[sleek imp]

I thought mihara is strong

[grand plaza]

As far as I know she needs to respawn for her kit to work

[placid bloom]

no respawn on that team. Moran burst instead of Rapu p5

so it's tickle damage Mihara

[grand plaza]

Yeah looks like overthink there -_-

Looks like its on first game then, or idk maybe second game is bot as well if it reaches 2rl? Idk if Red Hood can kill jackal link fast enough

[placid bloom]

not fast enough if Scar gets stunned by Mermaid.

I mean RH killing

[grand plaza]

Yeah thats what I believe as well but I guess its a possibility 🤷‍♂️

[placid bloom]

bottom should burst at 2.5RL

not enough feed from top

RH is shooting at Jackal anyway since attacker side, not Scar so no ele advantage

[grand plaza]

The thing is what if 2 ar can hurt enough for RH to finish

[placid bloom]

she has to kill 3 links with base damage

I mean there is chance Anis + Centi are beefed up enough to kill Scar

but pretty unlikely

it's still 3 HP pools that you need to burn through

[grand plaza]

Yeah bottom it is

But the real problem is first game

[lime night]

gotcha ill try again yeah i couldnt kill the t3

[grand plaza]

Indom SBS or RH can wipe enemy team? I am not sure

[placid bloom]

1st game should be SBS stunned but gets indom, RH bursts then dies to Cinderella and SBS cannot clean up without burst

since she still has slow procs every 3 hit instead of every 1 hit

[lime night]

tried again and skipped tream 3, workedf perfectly thanks!

would you have any SP arena defense comps recommended? (i have all characters decently invested now)

[placid bloom]

the SBS needs to be omega invested to clean up from that position

since she unstuns while Noah invin still ticking for 1s

and they are Noise HP buffed + healing

[grand plaza]

No you are right, I watched previous game and SBS dies there but I just realized she dies because of helm burst.

So it will happen just like you said

[wet burrow]

hello, pvp noob here. If I just wanted to set three teams and not worry too much about countering would these teams be good or is there a better way to shuffle them around? There's so many different team comps its hard to know what's the best choice.
I have basically every pvp relevant nikke except for xAnne, Ein, and Emilia

[placid bloom]

no Cinderella p1. It is forbidden.

[signal hull]

https://tenor.com/view/forbidden-smurfs-smurfs-the-lost-village-smurfs-movie-gif-8087443

[placid bloom]

if you have HelmT you should be sticking her in somewhere. Probably kick Maiden for her and swap Bay with team 2's Noah.

[wet burrow]

I almost have Helm's treasure actually so I could do that soon

[shell hazel]

Reason cindy p1 is bad is because it gives extra burst gen to your opponent. P2 also bad. 3-4 is safest spot

#pvp-arena message

[oak gale]

man asking anywhere on the server about solo raid is impossible

anyone knows how good this team is for solo raid?

blanc , rogue (unbuilt) , cinderella , sanis , modernia
liter , grave , quency escape , treasure helm , scarlet
rapunzel pure greace , asuka , sbs , naga , bunny soda
mari (unbuilt) , mermaid, rapi redhood , alice (mediocer build + no micro) , pepper (unbuilt)
jackal , drake (no ol but somewhat built) , phantom , trina , rapunzel (somewhat built)

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal how goes your ch 38 adventures?

[wet crystal]

No hiccups so far, getting pulled left and right so I think I can only finish the ch when I get home

[wet crystal]

Oh that's a lot to look thru... I'll save for later and make my guess so I don't get bias

[umbral belfry]

lock in 🗣️

[shell hazel]

38 wasn't too bad (normal) but I sleep here for now

[coarse solstice]

Thoughts, I'm bottom, attacking.

[shell hazel]

team 1 what is the enemy running there

[coarse solstice]

If I didn't have a back up burst 1 it could have tanked me

[shell hazel]

I don't see how you lose t1. t2 shame you're not def or siren dead and you win easily

as it stands noah dead and depends what SG's do next on attack? will they skip cindy p2?

[placid bloom]

more unprotected Noah into SG

I know SG doesn't skip Cindy p4 after killing p5

so I assume they shoot into p2 decoy but you burst first

[shell hazel]

team 3 wtf lol

[placid bloom]

so you probably just kill her

[shell hazel]

how is this person still in? 😮

[placid bloom]

he just wins 2/4/5 every match

and throws 1/3 every time

[shell hazel]

maybe big gamba though

[placid bloom]

I mean if you don't have the investments that's all you can do

gamble on 5 bad team just as bad as gamble on 2 bad 3 good

at least with 3 good you have a decent chance to run over 5 bad team in groups

[shell hazel]

true

may depend how SG's go on team 2

[coarse solstice]

Definitely one way to problem solve. I don't like it though one counter and your sunk

[shell hazel]

you could win 4 as well tbh

[placid bloom]

4 just dies before indom

team too slow

so you realistically only lose round 5

[shell hazel]

blanc has biscuit though

[placid bloom]

it should kill before B1

[shell hazel]

biscuit immunity on blanc will last a bit right?

[placid bloom]

so they are left with just Blanc and nothing else

everyone else should be dead

just invin Blanc trying to clean up 5 members

[shell hazel]

I'd vote in your favour for sure

[placid bloom]

seems like it's gonna be the first 2x champ match in finals

[coarse solstice]

If that's how it goes itd be pretty sweet. Me and Cup getting a championship rematch in the finals.

[shell hazel]

two titans enter, one titan leaves

[shell hazel]

my matches uploaded here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UItFWrFesfg
match 1 was very close and was the weird blanc + biscuit vs rumani + biscuit finish lol

both SG teams murdered Cindy comps

my 2RL scarlet still undefeated

match 4 SG / Noah thing timestamp 2:30 if you wanted to see how it went Kuwon

I count 3 SG volleys to kill Noah. 2 for Rapu. Siren stunned Noise and gg

gotta put the last 2 steps in for copium

[coarse solstice]

What's the investment on the SGs

[shell hazel]

Drake is close to treasure got SR-15 just need 5 bond levels, think I can do it

before we have to put teams in for next rounds

[coarse solstice]

Just curious for my own SG v noah

[shell hazel]

the opponents ones? I did post them yesterday let me find

[signal hull]

Were those non-2RL Cindy comps?

[shell hazel]

yes 3RL, my 2RL cindy was actually undefeated but it takes helm out

and my helm moran comp did fairly well on it's own

the SG team investments here #pvp-arena message

[signal hull]

One day we'll have enough burst gen for 5x 2RL, wonder how will it go then x_x

Probably even more brainless luck.

[shell hazel]

yeah I lack rumani means I mostly sit at 3RL here or I sack a team off to die and focus on 3 good ones + 1 SG + 1 throwaway

[tropic summit]

at your synch lvl i honestly don't think you can defend anymore agaisnt opponents on same synch/invest

you can try with

noah noise helmt laplace rapu
scarlet trina rosanna centi jackal
blanc emilia rh biscuit rumani

[signal hull]

I'm unfamiliar with SG's but, is there any really good SG unit worthy investing into for CA (don't need them otherwise)?

[tropic summit]

bsoda drake viper noir

[shell hazel]

yeah

I actually don't have viper still 😄

[lime night]

honestly anything is fine! thank you for the help

[shell hazel]

maiden cope

[signal hull]

Hmm... Well Drake ain't getting my doll mats, come on. Noir it is then, I suppose.

[tropic summit]

drake and bsoda are the best SG units tho

do consider drake at some point

[shell hazel]

drake event does help with that

[signal hull]

Rn I'm using mega low investment BSoda in a leftmost spot in Rosanna team, so she got killed off for 2RL burst xD

It actually worked a couple of times!

[shell hazel]

yes I am doing the same

[placid bloom]

oh your SBS did get the indom, but you burned down to Mihara DoT since you couldn't get over Rumani Biscuit

[shell hazel]

yeah, it actually worked out when I needed it mostly this CA just happened to run into tanky enemies

[placid bloom]

2 volley SG kills before rocket can fire with no cs

hmm that frame seem off a bit though

[shell hazel]

maybe min fire option screws with the replays?

[placid bloom]

no actually it's correct

[coarse lake]

even with 17%+ cs on a sniper, 2 sgs happens before they can fire

[coarse solstice]

Looks like I might get Noah in 2 shots potentially then 👀

[placid bloom]

Centi still charging few frame before

[shell hazel]

depends on invest mine lasted 3 volleys 😄

[placid bloom]

aren't you bottom side though, your Noah not going up against SG

[bleak shale]

<@&946725432554836008>

[coarse solstice]

My SG are against an unprotected Noah

I was trying to estimate how fast they kill her

[placid bloom]

how much ele Drake

[coarse solstice]

None

[placid bloom]

hmm

purple doll Noah or no?

if no dmg reduc maybe can 2 volley since you're on 5SG instead of 4SG + Ros

[coarse solstice]

Yep purple doll

[placid bloom]

they probably get 1 shot off

3 volley kill

she dies at 1.5RL, but that team should still be 3RL

Pepper B1 should land on Siren unless Cinderella has higher Atk for some reason

black SR doll + Atk lines

but I don't think you one shot

so they still cast B1 + 2 Anis + 3 Cindy

you have around 4 SG volleys + Viper nuke to burn through decoy + Cinderella before she bursts I think

might be tough

[limber rampart]

Are there any treasure nikke good like THelm?

[umbral belfry]

im stuck on 20 hard and by stuck I mean I haven't tried it yet but I'm most likely losing

[coarse solstice]

Thanks! It's hard for me to keep track of burst timing still. Appreciate you laying it out nice for me.

[shell hazel]

wdym. lock in!

[umbral belfry]

I fear i have to recharge my lock in status still

low energy to mald

[shell hazel]

I posted my nihil kill it's a bit ropey and I used cindy not alice but it worked lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jqJ562uSCg

[umbral belfry]

my problem is my cp is too low

I invested too much into my pvp and disregarded my pve

[shell hazel]

this was about 460K I think

liter dragged me down a bit

[umbral belfry]

I'm like 412k, lower if I put in liter

it's doro over

[shell hazel]

you need cover repair

I didn't max liter but SR-5 doll from before + 6-7 in skills

[umbral belfry]

I'm gonna inhale so much core dust

@coarse solstice please lock in for this match 🗣️

[umbral belfry]

pls so I can repost that video tomorrow

[worthy sorrel]

@umbral belfry @placid bloom

fwiw, my rosa is skilled up but no ol'd. she's been "almost" one shotting people in previous matches, but is still just a bit underpowered.

gonna try to get her head and arms ol'd for next arena, but right now she's 7/4/10 no ol

if that helps predict please let me know. i can't tell here and really hoping to knock out loser frame this tournament so i never have to worry about it again lol

also gl @clear folio! i kinda want the W to get the ura rematch and pietisserie union head to head in the finals but would be awesome for you to get your revenge too 🎉

rematches all the way down

[umbral belfry]

will s2 lv4 be enough to push to 2.5 RL ? don't recall the exact % on that. as for that prediction, maybe kuwon thinks differently/the same

no OL so no atk rolls, but max burst hmhm

I still have trouble telling who would win that one, nonetheless gl @worthy sorrel (and looks like you took my advice on the bay placement ) smart move

[worthy sorrel]

i did ty 🙏

was a bit worried lapt would be taking p5 pressure, but agent_eon made the case that in any teams with p5 pressure lap extra damage wouldn't matter so much. she's been doing good clean up

[umbral belfry]

but yeah I honestly can't tell 😭 I believe you should win overall, but if soda happens to stun your moran and bay

it's completely rng

[worthy sorrel]

just realized i don't have tetra arms for rosa. helmet only i guess for next time 🎉

[coarse solstice]

We can't both get dream crushed it'd be to much 🥹

[glad glade]

I would like a second opinion for this one. Top is attacking and bottom is defending. Here is what I think who would win:

T1: Bottom
T2: Top
T3: Bottom
T4: Top
T5: Bottom

Are my predictions correct?

[fallow nebula]

Who will arcana pair with

Scarlet already has trina

Arcana cinderella?

[glad glade]

Isabel

[fallow nebula]

Isabel in arena?

[glad glade]

Oh arena. I thought you were talking about in general. That idk

[placid bloom]

I looked at it more and I think Viper just dies without being able to burst.
Noir probably dies in 1 volley if your DrakeT is strong enough, Ros is skipped over, and Viper should die by 1.5RL or 2RL at the latest if it takes 2 volleys to kill Noir and 2 volleys to kill Viper.
So your team should have Ros > Viper > Noir FB left over after BSoda and DrakeT die, whereas their team has BSoda + Maiden + Ros stuck at B1.

[keen vapor]

PvE

That's where you want to burst more than one time

[fallow nebula]

Arcana is a 40sec b2

Bursting more than once with her seems tough

[placid bloom]

Arcana does basically nothing for 5s

[fallow nebula]

Shes RL

Could work with cindy

[placid bloom]

you are not waiting for FB to run out in arena without a defensive B2

[umbral belfry]

I stole em from you to beef up my own rosa next CA

[fallow nebula]

What avout cindy arcana biscuit

[placid bloom]

if her skills worked without needing her to burst maybe

Cinderella is not getting shot at p1, you can put Rumani or Centi if you want a fast p1 Biscuit tank

[worthy sorrel]

this helps a bit ty

cheering for aceross because i think it leans slightly in my favor, but since it's rng related and i'm cheering opposite, i maybe just doomed myself 🤷‍♂️

[placid bloom]

I don't think it's that RNG

you can map out these type of fights usually

[umbral belfry]

I think the only real REAL rng is the soda one

[placid bloom]

the only one that's RNG is 40% chance to stun Bay and you wipe because no B2

[umbral belfry]

[worthy sorrel]

i need to practice this for sure. I'm getting a good feel for archetype matchups, but i don't have the nuance

i need to watch more footage

[umbral belfry]

you'll get there

[placid bloom]

if the investment levels were closer it'd be harder to say

but Ace's SGs are almost all <R15 with only BSoda purple doll

[coarse solstice]

What about crits?

[umbral belfry]

rng 😭

[placid bloom]

crits can make a diff but since SG damage is split between 10 bullets

it's not a big enough variance

you won't suddenly 1 volley someone that normally takes 2 volleys

unless you were already close to killing in 1 volley

the higher the bullet count the less randomness there is

[umbral belfry]

also for t1 cup, does your noise have taunt priority? I'm a little about that team order

[placid bloom]

if it was Scar nuking a team and needing crit to one-shot a tankier char it'd be different

[umbral belfry]

cindy p5 is fine for the sake of defending SG

[placid bloom]

my rookie looks the same as before

guess my SPA will probably look the same after shuffle too

[umbral belfry]

no one showed up yet

I'll recheck during my lunch break. until then

[worthy sorrel]

that's a level nuance beyond me. i had set up cindy team differently and then eon cooked over in the pie union discord

[placid bloom]

honestly that's just something you watch your previous replays to check

[worthy sorrel]

it's only in watching the past two champ seasons have i been learning how ultra specific eon's placements have been

[placid bloom]

I'm pretty sure Noah is the one that holds taunt past 1RL

for you anyway

even if you know the theory it's easier to check footage

[worthy sorrel]

it has looked like noah holds taunt pretty consistently yeah

[dire root]

I wish team comp mattered more in SP

[spare nimbus]

win?

[dire root]

Take a guess who won this one.

[rancid kernel]

What is the best team for rookie arena right now?

currently running this

I have all the characters and somewhat maxed out so just trying to figure out the best team for consistent wins for attacking and defense

[keen vapor]

Never do that
Only villains do it

[keen vapor]

Pick a team from FAQ on pinned messages

[rancid kernel]

i just looked at the tierlist and just built it off of that

[rancid kernel]

like in a bad way or good?

[keen vapor]

I said never do that

[warm monolith]

[crystal flicker]

what is the exact time value of 1RL? 1.3sec?

[keen vapor]

Uh huh

[sleek imp]

something isnt right

[keen vapor]

??

[sleek imp]

context: I havent lost in rookie arena 2 season straight

[keen vapor]

You can't lose on rookie

Everyone gets more or less the same rewards

[sleek imp]

oh

[umbral belfry]

no one familiar in rookie yet

[shell hazel]

I set my crow defence, go down to 800 rookie score and fight my way back up

like rocky in the rocky films

[keen vapor]

I got the same top 1 :deadge:

[umbral belfry]

good thing rookie doesn't matter

[jagged mesa]

@wet crystal WHERED U GO

[jagged mesa]

WDYM

[keen vapor]

Dirk keeps tormenting me

[umbral belfry]

wait are you back lemme check

LMAOOOO

[jagged mesa]

folian is

[umbral belfry]

I wanted the person that bullied me when i was but a fish

[jagged mesa]

oh wait, sorry folian was never in rookie with us

[umbral belfry]

fight back 🗣️

[jagged mesa]

im getting confused

[umbral belfry]

pspspsp folian

[keen vapor]

The deficit

[umbral belfry]

I could strike now I will wait

[umbral belfry]

[jagged mesa]

o also i checked my other account and i managed to defend by using helm as burst in rookie

[umbral belfry]

[whole wharf]

I waited a loong time but its been getting on my nerves dropping to a lower rank IN SP ARENA so i wanna try asking for help with team comp here since my teams might be lacking
i got resources to build chars/collection item and 2025 selector box if i needed something like blanc

[hollow lagoon]

Could use a Trina tbh

Unless I missed her

[whole wharf]

gonna spend all my friend points and see what i get

[hollow lagoon]

Also should start working on treasure helm

[whole wharf]

mhm was already on it got 150 of her mats to max it just need more basic mats

[shell hazel]

best rookie def

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t think normal people should rock 3 teams

For sp

[jagged mesa]

@umbral belfry point reset let me touch 1st

[lunar pawn]

how far should I take moran's skills if I want to seriously use her in top 3 in SPA?

[jagged mesa]

oh what the you attacked me ALREADY

I JUST BARELY SENT THE SCREENSHOT

COULDNT EVEN LET ME HAVE IT FOR 25 SECONDS

[shell hazel]

no mercy

[hollow lagoon]

It’s a cruel world man @shell hazel

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/xenoverse-goku-super-saiyan-angry-dbz-gif-1416275111944307575

[hollow lagoon]

What did a level 200 do to deserve being sandwiched by 2 300s

[umbral belfry]

this was legit bad timing g I'm sorry LMAO

[tropic summit]

Teams
noah biscuit cind xmaiden noise
drake laplace grave rh jackal
auto

Cubes
quantum on laplace, jackal
vigor on biscuit, noise
temperance on biscuit
other nikke run highest lvl cube

Notes
-get helm treasured
-raise scarlet CP
-throw rumani in synchro and build her up

-wishlist trina, centi, blanc
-can upgrade to the table to the right once you've unlocked the nikke needed and built them

[stuck parcel]

I keep fighting with that Dirk in SP arena.

[whole wharf]

god bless ill get to work**

[dire root]

I think I win? They are very slow so Siren either stuns Noah and delays their burst even further or gets taunted by Noise and delays their burst B1.

[jagged mesa]

oops wait

[umbral belfry]

@jagged mesa if nalfen is in our rookie bracket lemme know. im gonna be like a mosquito on his ass

[hollow lagoon]

U prob win

[placid bloom]

Noise only taunts p1 + 2. They burst Noise Biscuit SBS if they ever burst.

[dire root]

AHHHH I forgot damage buffers they lived through scarlets burst.

but it didn't matter

[jagged mesa]

@umbral belfry for the time being, what should i run on defense:

1. 299k CP 3RL: blanc sbs biscuit siren helm (no second defender for p5)
2. 267k CP 2RL: scarlet siren trina helm centi
3. 312k CP 3RL: scarlet siren trina sbs helm

[jagged mesa]

🫡

[coarse solstice]

All strangers.... 🙃

[umbral belfry]

I would pick #3 personally, any possible way for you to get at least 2.5 RL without too much of a cp dip?

[jagged mesa]

im trying to sift through my roster

[umbral belfry]

but #1 isn't bad either

[tropic summit]

don't run helm with scarlet
run scarlet with jackal

[umbral belfry]

but I think in your case you'd need the extra cp

he doesn't have jackal

no bully rail

[tropic summit]

run scarlet at least with mana or rapunzel then at least...

[umbral belfry]

okie back to work

[hollow lagoon]

Can scarlet dodge siren stun with 28 mag?

[placid bloom]

yes

[hollow lagoon]

Oh great

[placid bloom]

unless Bastion cube

[hollow lagoon]

tok 3 rolls

Then again it’s a buff since my scarlet had no ammo rolls

[jagged mesa]

no jackal no noah no rumani, rest uninvested

[wet crystal]

I'm with my peeps from my first rookie bracket, ZZZ is gone and everyone is avoiding me

[jagged mesa]

im SO close but no

[hollow lagoon]

Rough account for PvP atm

[jagged mesa]

yeah i get confused between rookie & spa & 2 accounts... lolol

[jagged mesa]

tell me about it...

[hollow lagoon]

I just did

I recall the days when I had no biscuit and no jackal

Boi i was bullied

[gaunt viper]

Thoughts on beating this comp? t1 and t3 lost. t3 their Moran is a wall. T1 is definitely viable but I'm just under the exact team comp to make it a reality

[jagged mesa]

i think ill run team 1 until i can get my team 3 online

[hollow lagoon]

T1 looks like a case of scarlet+ Trina

[placid bloom]

t3 swap Emi and RH, let RH burst. We saw this matchup yesterday

[hollow lagoon]

Can’t you Cindy nuke their t1?

[placid bloom]

not through Bay maybe

[tropic summit]

T1 scar-trina
T2 noah helm stall
T3 skip, enemy overcommited it (jackal and noah in same team)

[placid bloom]

actually that team is slow

[gaunt viper]

this was t2

[hollow lagoon]

Use liter for bigger nuke for Cindy maybe can pull thru

[tropic summit]

don't use rumani

why it feels like we already had this before...

[gaunt viper]

I wasn't sure with Scar Trina due to bay tbh 🤔

[tropic summit]

2RL scar-trina bypasses 3RL

if bay isn't bursting she's doing nothing

[gaunt viper]

hmmm makes sense then, I overthunk it then

[gaunt viper]

whom would you use instead?

[tropic summit]

T1: p4 in T1 can be flex (drake or noir would add dmg to scar)
T2: you may lose helmT if enemy is 2.5RL with CS%, will still stall enough with noah and biscuit
T3: skip

[jagged mesa]

@umbral belfry @tropic summit wait actually i forgot about red hood, i could do scarlet - rh - trina - helm - any clip sg or better for 2rl, and i have drake at SR5 and i can overload just enough to get ~285k cp

1. 299k CP 3RL: blanc sbs biscuit siren helm (no second defender for p5)
2. 267k CP 2RL: scarlet siren trina helm centi
3. 312k CP 3RL: scarlet siren trina sbs helm
4. ~285k CP 2RL: scarlet rh trina helm drake(?)

[hollow lagoon]

Scarlet Trina RH, cus I assume u don’t want RH b2

[jagged mesa]

nvm id rather just start investing in a good RL

err yeah i havent sorted positions yet

im just trying to get to 2RL somehow without tanking my cp

[hollow lagoon]

Ur scarlet needs to have like 28-30 ammo to dodge siren stun tho

U Can also put like jackal in front of scarlet

[jagged mesa]

no jackal

[hollow lagoon]

Well put something so their siren don’t kill it burst chain

[gaunt viper]

I was just gonna run this for t1 tbh

[placid bloom]

I wouldn't worry too much about rookie, I just run 3RL Blanc SBS and literally only 1 person can crack it

but maybe my rookie server is just trash

[jagged mesa]

im thinking of just calling it a day with 3rl blanc sbs, and see if anybody else can crack it

hime is ahead of me anyways so no point trying to push for 1

[hollow lagoon]

My bracket can’t test on me anyway

[placid bloom]

also the person that can crack it only cracks it because he is 110k CP above me

[fathom rock]

@coarse solstice you got this

[tropic summit]

what is scarlet doing in p4 anyway

oh siren, ye guess it makes sense

as long as liter is linked

[jagged mesa]

ok screw it ill just run with 3rl sbs blanc for now. at least i have thelm now to help

[tropic summit]

this one sir

[keen vapor]

were on opposite brackets

[gaunt viper]

yeah my Liter is linked, Siren is really what made my confused on squad comp tbh, then I was a but confused on how bay counter worked

[hollow lagoon]

Up dated my rookie defense team to be balanced

[keen vapor]

@tropic summit I found another one

[wet crystal]

@jagged mesa @umbral belfry so far it's looking like a good portion of the sp arena top 10 folks in our bracket without the Chinese character guy... and gave me free points for 3 matches so far

[coarse solstice]

Please swap Rapi and Cindy

[hollow lagoon]

I swapped rapi and sbs so the element wheel is in order

[keen tendon]

Any tips on how to beat this enemy team?

[hollow lagoon]

This round of shuffles gib me a bunch of level 280s they can tickle me all they want

[keen tendon]

Here’s my units

[hollow lagoon]

Burst faster so rh don’t get sniped I guess

Oh wait you might get away with siren stun if their ammo is not just right

[keen tendon]

Any actually tips? Like team comps or something

[coarse solstice]

Cindy in P1 makes your opponent burst signify faster

[hollow lagoon]

I know, it’s more fun to watch my opponents land triple digit dmg on me with their burst

Man dis shuffle is kek

[coarse solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-argh-angry-rage-smeagol-gif-11349295287195719896

[hollow lagoon]

[coarse solstice]

Sir how dare you have fun instead of being optimized

[keen tendon]

So is anyone gonna at least try to answer my questions?

[hollow lagoon]

Can ur scarlet wipe without RH buff?

[keen tendon]

My team dies before I can full burst

That’s why I’m asking for help, I need a new team comps I think

[hollow lagoon]

So they burst faster than u?

[keen tendon]

Yeah

[hollow lagoon]

That’s helm with charge speed then

[keen tendon]

Which doesn’t make sense, I’ve got more rocket units

[hollow lagoon]

Replace your Centi with treasure helm

[placid bloom]

no it's because Ros kills you at B1

[coarse solstice]

What is your CP with this team

[vapid lake]

try noah biscuit jackal scarletBS centi

bro don't ask him to burst with helm against rosa

assume enemy rosa has 90% ele or something that will one shot his helm on b1 chain

[keen tendon]

My black shadow isn’t built for arena

[coarse solstice]

Not with Noah proc

[vapid lake]

both teams are 2RL rosanna burst will go through first before his noah bursts

[vapid lake]

actually check team speed

[coarse solstice]

Right right

CP is to low anyway

[vapid lake]

scar blanc rosanna doesn't look like 2rl

[coarse solstice]

Need 745k

[keen tendon]

Well I’ve been able to kill his team before he swapped some units

[vapid lake]

okay maybe you can go with helm, but it's a bit risky

[keen tendon]

My Rosanna is at level 1

Is she good for arenas??

[placid bloom]

you can Rosanna them too

but not with those stats

[keen tendon]

Is there any other way to beat him? Or am I doomed

[coarse solstice]

Try the helm build put your highest cubes on everone

[vapid lake]

if your opponent's helm has 17% cs, he is 2.5 rl
if he doesn't, he is 3rl

this team should win

[placid bloom]

you can 2RL Noah Biscuit SAnis with no attacker so Ros targets p1 + 2

[keen tendon]

How sure are you? Because noise and rumani are level 1

[placid bloom]

[vapid lake]

then use urawhat's team, red hood and centi

surely you have them built for pvp

[keen tendon]

I can try to build them, but I was told that biscuit and Noah were good units to build first

[keen tendon]

Which one again?

[vapid lake]

#pvp-arena message

[hollow lagoon]

@keen tendon I ain’t as knowledgeable but I would roll dis if scarlet eat the stun the ur golden, if not then you lost 100 gems to try something else

[keen tendon]

I don’t have siren mate

[hollow lagoon]

Well then

[coarse solstice]

Don't forget cubes the extra might make the difference

[vapid lake]

just run the team urawhat suggested for you

check if the opponent is 2.5rl or 3rl

[placid bloom]

don't need to feed them unnecesarily to 2RL

[vapid lake]

if you lose because their rosanna killed your helm, his helm has 17% cs

if you win, he doesn't

[keen tendon]

This is with level 8 quantum cubes and level 9 charge cubes

[coarse solstice]

Ok send it. Good luck!!

[vapid lake]

733k vs 880k

is that 15.4%

[coarse solstice]

It's pretty close

[keen tendon]

It didn’t work out, my red hood and helmet died first

[hollow lagoon]

It go be a 17% helm then

[vapid lake]

yeah your opponent has 17% cs helm, he is 2.5rl

not 3rl

[keen tendon]

So what are some units that would be good to start building for arena?? Last time I was in this chat yall told me to build Noah and biscuit

[vapid lake]

this team you need to beat them with scarBS

[keen tendon]

How is she helpful tho?

[hollow lagoon]

indom?

[coarse solstice]

https://tinyurl.com/nikke-pvp-tierlist
Here is an explanation of units and their importance. Build based on what teams you plan on making

[vapid lake]

she won't die to 90% ele rosanna b1, and scarBS is a good pvp dps

[keen tendon]

I’m not entirely sure about that my friend

[hollow lagoon]

Can 3rl Noah catch 2.5rl scarlet burst?

[keen tendon]

I keep trying to get into the arena scene but whenever I do it’s just a mountain of information

I’ve got some good units built, my Trina and scarlet team is pretty incredible when they don’t have a helm, but when they do I just fold in half

I’ve been in 3rd place for the longest time and I can’t seem to ever be able to kill the leaders

[hollow lagoon]

Sbs would damage rosana out of her self buff and live I guess?

[minor kestrel]

Hi can anyone help me build SP arena teams? I just got Rumani and invested in some units. Have most units just missing Trina and Mana really

[covert lintel]

don't forget even if you are not in cp deficit against opponent, your different in level mean your stat will differ too. in other word his rosanna will be deadly to all of your atker

[plucky charm]

what is a team to beat this? I tried 2rl cindy but they just ate it and none of their units died
their helm pops faster than 2rl scarjack too

[keen vapor]

2 RL Emi

[plucky charm]

no have emi

[keen vapor]

I very sorry for you person on an Emi bracket

Wait, try 2 RL RH Indom

[keen vapor]

I hope your Blanc can tank

[plucky charm]

im using jackal and trina on my scarlet team
this still gets me to 2rl would this work?

[keen vapor]

I hope your RH can tank

[hollow lagoon]

Rh does get def buff from her own b1

[keen vapor]

After she burst is the problem

And, def is bad

[hollow lagoon]

It do be what it be

[plucky charm]

the only other team i can atk is a scarlet indom team

[normal shard]

does Siren always stun your B1 no matter where they are positioned?

[keen vapor]

Go on try my cook it's done with love

[normal shard]

ahh nvm it was cause of taunt

[keen vapor]

[umbral belfry]

did you snatch my old rookie bully from me

[plucky charm]

ty m80

[sleek root]

Any good cooking for MiharaBC?

heard she's great if she dies

[keen vapor]

@stuck parcel do you want a new def and some tips by any chance?

[keen vapor]

it's consistent counter

[keen vapor]

You'll need invested Rosanna sir not many are capable of that

[crystal flicker]

https://youtu.be/hZmHNychoUE

[stuck parcel]

I would not turn those away.

[wet crystal]

Name? 24 ppl loaded into the bracket

[stuck parcel]

@keen vapor They -were- stuck on a setup I had earlier for a few days, but eventually got through it.

[umbral belfry]

Nalfen

[crystal flicker]

There's other strat with MiharaOS indom but I can't find it

[keen vapor]

Tell me more

[stuck parcel]

At least in SP arena, hehe.

[sleek root]

Got a 10/10/10 MIharaBC with x3ELe and atk, not enough?

[keen vapor]

That's what it matters

[sleek root]

Can't afford a x4ele/atk... need rocks

[wet crystal]

Don't see that name... my old bully changed their name after I overtook them and they couldn't beat my comp even after gemming tho

Still nalfen?

[keen vapor]

me too

[crystal flicker]

You only need the burst gen from her sacc

[umbral belfry]

they can't hide from me forever

[stuck parcel]

Haven't had them in rookie yet I think, but they seemed to get really hung up on Nero/Moran/Helm/Quiry/Rapu. Dunno which other team they were stuck on, but that held for like a week.

[plucky charm]

heres the rec just for reference
thanks again

[keen vapor]

Bay dying fast is a blessing for me

[keen vapor]

Quiry I still have to invest her

[stuck parcel]

As soon as the 2.5 anni hit and slammed us with things, I finally took her to the gym.

[crystal flicker]

Dang, if only they make Arcana off-burst buffer lol

[keen vapor]

No thanks I like skipping banners

[crystal flicker]

She makes Isabel basic atk = Rosa Nuke

[civic shale]

Hey, I'm new to PvP, I saw someone win with this team in Champion Arena. How does that work when there's no B2?

[keen vapor]

I still don't like her!

[crystal flicker]

You only need MiharaOS to die and survive till everyone else dies

[keen vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/yuko-yoshida-shamiko-machikado-mazoku-jumping-mad-gif-14615738

[civic shale]

Would you say this is a good team for me to copy and use myself in SP arena?

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/shamiko-momo-machikado-mazoku-listening-gif-14742239

[keen vapor]

Big kill from Rosanna/DOT from Mihara/stun from siren

[keen vapor]

Using Rosanna is not that easy

[crystal flicker]

No, easily counterable by fast burst team

I'm 69% sure that team will lost against 2RL

[civic shale]

Ohh, they manual play im guessing? hadnt thought of that, i assuned everything was auto haha

[crystal flicker]

Its Auto

[civic shale]

Oh it is

[crystal flicker]

PvP is auto

[keen vapor]

Wym manual

[civic shale]

Cause im going through some champion arena teams rn and copying some, since its auto that would work right?

[keen vapor]

No

[civic shale]

How so...

[oblique ridge]

Rookie arena.

I had to figure out how to comfortably beat:
Noah, Scarlet, Red Hood, Biscuit, Jackal.

I ended up with:
Noah, Biscuit, Cinderella, Helm, Noise.

It worked. Thoughts on better comps?

[civic shale]

Maybe im dumb, my bad if so, im very new to pvp

[keen vapor]

What are your current Rosanna skill levels and overload lines

[civic shale]

Like level 6 no overload...

I guess she needs crazy investment then

[keen vapor]

See? It won't work

[civic shale]

I see

[crystal flicker]

The thing is this team very niche and only win against (maybe) Scarlet and slower team

[civic shale]

Ok thanks, guess ill not go for that team haha

[keen vapor]

@swift mango help me :deadge:

[keen vapor]

2 RL Noah Emilia?

2.5 maybe

[tropic summit]

of what, fellow bracket lad?

[oblique ridge]

Many things influence victory in CA. Sometimes, there's no way around the outcome because of hard counters. But if it's not such a hard counter, there are surprising outcomes.

Once there was a team that was sure to lose. But through coincidentally precise timing, it won.

There are also cases when the other team simply folded (died fast) and it broke up their burst sequence.

And other cases where a team barely survived an AoE and that was it. The team was supposed to have died, but because it barely survived, it ended up winning.

[keen vapor]

Almost, neighbor bracket, we might meet next shuffle

[crystal flicker]

MiharaOS with Blanc
#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

more alliance potential

le Echo faction arc

[keen vapor]

Kisama faction

[wet crystal]

is soda's taunt stun affected by taunt or no?

[crystal flicker]

Soda taunt?

[wet crystal]

the burst

[keen vapor]

Soda stun, yes

[tropic summit]

think he means the stun

[wet crystal]

2 enemy units random

[crystal flicker]

yes random

[tropic summit]

and yes her stun is affected by taunt

if soda is in p2 and enemy is running noah, noah will get stun

[oblique ridge]

For Noah Emilia I'd need to have good timing with enemy team's burst speed. I think he somehow got 2RL. I don't know how.

3RL was not fast enough to Noah counter their Scarlet AoE. 2.5RL was fast enough.

I still won the 3RL, but it was a close call... so I fixed my team. That's the new comp I fixed to that was better.

[civic shale]

Thanks a lot for explaining. That makes sense

[keen vapor]

Feed

[wet crystal]

if soda in p2 and enemy runs moran and rum, if soda is high atk, they both get stun or the last taunter gets it?

[keen vapor]

Try Noah biscuit Emilia RH Helm

[keen vapor]

@tropic summit help me

WAIT@oblique ridge why not use a Noah siren team ?

Seeing their Noah stunned is fun

[oblique ridge]

It was a lot more feed than I expected to give. I thought I'd have to feed around 18% burst gen to make them outpace my Noah burst

[oblique ridge]

I could try it. Not today since I exhausted all attempts (all wins, so no regrets)

[oblique ridge]

Nevermind, I see it now. Up to +14.2% burst gen feed by the time 3RL rolls around. So their Scarlet was slightly faster than my old comp's Noah burst would've triggered. RIP

[keen vapor]

:deadge:

[oblique ridge]

Looks like your team 1 wish they had the Biscuit from team 2

[keen vapor]

But it's on team 2 for a reason

[oblique ridge]

You have no hope of getting team 2 to make do without Biscuit?

That's all you need to pull off, if possible

[keen vapor]

Well, seeing it again, Blanc might tank

Specially after another limit break

[oblique ridge]

What cube was on Blanc?

[keen vapor]

Self reminder Part 1, the phantom menace

[keen vapor]

It's always tempering

[crystal flicker]

What do you think about 3RL Cindy?

[oblique ridge]

Might be a close call if she tries to tank without Biscuit, but if she can burst you win anyway

[keen vapor]

They'll kill my units before I burst

[crystal flicker]

With BIscuit

[oblique ridge]

Maybe a B1, B2, or B3 that actually helps Blanc survive pre-burst, or burst faster so she only has to stay alive for a shorter period

[keen vapor]

Ok

[oblique ridge]

@keen vapor Like this for instance, idk if it actually works out that way though

[crystal flicker]

So expensive

[keen vapor]

Expensive how

[crystal flicker]

HelmT Trina Blanc in 1 team

[oblique ridge]

You can use Anis though

Was just an example

He's on the attack so he has control

[keen vapor]

Anis

[keen vapor]

Actually, I'll try it on rookie

[oblique ridge]

Anyways, the goal is to free Biscuit so you can try to figure out a way to use Biscuit in team 1 and not be eaten alive by Scarlet comp destroying your Noah fast

[keen vapor]

As defense, have no good thing to put there

Rosanna :whyyy snapped:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[keen vapor]

Self reminder Part 2; the attack of Kisamas

[keen vapor]

Noah, jackal, biscuit and Rapunzel are quite low in power

[keen vapor]

2B at my same synch when I started after use your core dust cases

Hime

[umbral belfry]

@jagged mesa @wet crystal i don't think my bully is in my rookie bracket. this must be how it feels to be blueballed (with anger)

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956169630400016384/1322996349809070160/1115522135276933200.gif

[keen vapor]

[umbral belfry]

I'll get em next time

lemme catch em in sp or ca

[keen vapor]

That's what I always tell to myself against C3 guy

[umbral belfry]

you must lock in

[keen vapor]

[minor kestrel]

I can invest more in them I used all my core dust cases. I took a break for a month

[keen vapor]

So

[keen vapor]

421 looks worse problem than a month do you buy event attempts every time hard mode opens?

[minor kestrel]

Nah I started saving gems for pulls cause I’m f2p now

[crystal flicker]

wdym

[keen vapor]

Then you can't compete on PVP

Levels are a big factor

[crystal flicker]

Yes

[fiery parcel]

Good morning

[minor kestrel]

Lol ok I was just trying to ask for help building defense teams

[umbral belfry]

[crystal flicker]

Guten Morgen

[keen vapor]

[wet crystal]

@umbral belfry b4 looking at cup v ace investments, I'm guessing: ace, cup, ace, cup, uhhh 50/50, what did you guys conclude?

[keen vapor]

Defense won't work if level is too low I'm living example || ||

[crystal flicker]

That'sthe thing, you should start buying those event attempts

[umbral belfry]

my break just ended so I can't go into full detail, but I'm leaning cup wins overall

kuwon and I spoke about it earlier this morning

[crystal flicker]

I left the game for a month but still maintain top 3 pvp coz I keep closing my level gap with event case and campaign push

[oblique ridge]

There are many possible combinations, so it's difficult to do clean cooks. But you can get started by using https://nikke-deck.web.app/ and making 3 nice teams and sharing the idea here. Then the cooks can help you improve the 3 teams. That's a lot easier than starting with infinite combinations, imo, and you would more easily get attention and advice.

Otherwise most of us here can only suggest cookie cutter comps and hoping they'd work for you

[keen vapor]

Soda Trina Scarlet team yes, very infinite

[wild vine]

Can someone help me improve my sp arena teams?
Scarlet/Noir/Pepper/Poli/Jackal
Blanc/Emilia/RH/Biscuit/Anis
Noise/Noah/SBS/Rapunzel/Tia

[umbral belfry]

but if the 3rd is the 2 rl helmt vs 3 rl indom sbs, sbs should win

[wet crystal]

oh, I was gonna lean ace win if that soda hit the rng lottery

[umbral belfry]

due to rapu reviving a few seconds after the nuke

okie I must go

[crystal flicker]

Being F2p means you should be ready to skip banner

[keen vapor]

Omg Poli hiiiiiiiii

[oblique ridge]

And becoming immune to Discord hypes over most banners

[keen vapor]

Where's Trina why is Emilia so low when it's already on your defense

[crystal flicker]

Like Arcana

[keen vapor]

I might recc you a Moran team but you won't invest her either

[wild vine]

I'd invest if I knew I was gonna stick with these teams for a while but I've been waiting for centi to drop for so long that its bonkers

Emilia is 6/6/6 and has OL on her helmet with a lvl 5 SR doll

how much more investment u want

[deft pelican]

Can Someone help me with SP arena def teams ?

[swift mango]

Team1: Noah+Rumani+Biscuit+Cindy+HelmT

Team 2. Emi+Blanc+RH+Crown+Jackal

Not enough CP? Not my problem

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Team 1 could win at 20% deficit. Team 2: good luck.

[ionic surge]

@ornate spoke crash and jos are gone

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal I also suggest asking for opinions while you can here, especially bc they're much more experienced than me. i am but a baby still in pvp 🐥

[raven plover]

still waiting people to login to make sure mine totally shuffled

[ornate spoke]

[ionic surge]

[ornate spoke]

but you need to wait more because crash usually logins way later

[ionic surge]

Please be gone

Man, Siren is such a good Noah killer.

[ornate spoke]

psure we are in the same group because i recognize most of the names

[ionic surge]

If Crash is still there, he'll have good competition with franxx

They can duke it out

[swift mango]

If p1-2 siren just make Noise steal taunt. If p3-5 siren just move Noah out p1.

[ionic surge]

I never thought about that

[ornate spoke]

just cheese with god comp

[ionic surge]

What god comp

[wet crystal]

atk top, def bot. I'm thinking T-B (but T if soda stops full burst) -T-B-T (maiden sacc for rosa?) thoughts?

[ionic surge]

Cringe

Sbs will nuke that

[ornate spoke]

i have yet to lose with that team in our group against not crash or equivalent

[ionic surge]

That would be a different story if I had higher cp

But alas im 400k short

[umbral crown]

Blood cooking

In rookie in new bracket maybe its a sigm to get isekaied into a new bracket in sp

[ionic surge]

If I get someone from SIN or Scarlet again I might just shoot my ipad

[umbral crown]

You gonna get keripo and noetia

[ionic surge]

We're not even close to the same bracket

I get people with ids around 70k-80k

So that's not happening

Right?

[umbral crown]

Just trust SU

[ornate spoke]

i have no clue what is this fabled shuffle that is supposed to happen

[ionic surge]

Praying we get Scarlet treasure by July

[normal shard]

pilgrims dont get treasure, historricaly speaking

[ionic surge]

Isabel so bad she might just get one honestly

[normal shard]

she got arcana

[ionic surge]

Not enough

[normal shard]

i mean becasue of Arcana she is def never getting touched again

game design logic

[ornate spoke]

inb4 we get noah treasure

cuz she was in the trailer

[normal shard]

unless JP player mass riot they won't buff/change shit

[ionic surge]

Need her goated enough by herself to use for making me buy that zesty skin

[normal shard]

i just want a summer Voulme bikini unit

[ionic surge]

Only other skins I want is a Maxwell gacha skin

Or that 2 year old pass skin

[umbral crown]

We gonna send you some keripo mates to your rookie and sp, to balance things out

[umbral crown]

Max her doll, hurry

[ornate spoke]

shes literally the highest CP unit i have

[ionic surge]

Nice max core Noah, happy for you,

This goblin has been ghosting me since I got her day 1

[ornate spoke]

oh about the same for me, i got pmuch 5 copies on the mileage shop lol

[ionic surge]

[ornate spoke]

that shop is so useless after lv 200 lol

i only get pilgrim units therre to lvl up the ranking

[ionic surge]

I'm not even joking about ghosting like what the hell is this

All my other pilgrims are mlb

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/produce-pandas-produce-panda-chen4eva-cass-produce-pandas-laugh-gif-23522648

[spiral onyx]

Silver ticket exchange. She was literally my very first C7 Pilgrim

[ornate spoke]

nihilister and noah are pmuch the only C7 pilgrims i have

[ionic surge]

https://tenor.com/view/wallet-gif-25866507

Most of my Silver tickets went to my wives, Maxwell and Milk.

[coarse solstice]

Almost maintenance @umbral belfry so we're close enough

[umbral crown]

Same here

[umbral crown]

Use silver tix, do not be stingy

[umbral crown]

C7 nihi? The brick in cubes is reak

[worthy sorrel]

waiting to drop 800 silver milage on her next time she shows up to finish core7. any day now... surely

[umbral crown]

@keen vapor

[ornate spoke]

you assume i even use the cubes properly

[umbral crown]

You can be buy max 3 copies

[umbral crown]

[worthy sorrel]

wat

[umbral crown]

3 copies in 1 day

[worthy sorrel]

oh i see lol

[worthy sorrel]

never paid attention

[umbral crown]

Happens

[worthy sorrel]

okay! next two times she shows up 🎉

[umbral crown]

Gambate

[ionic surge]

Saving my union chips for C7 Sin now that I'm done with lv15 resilience cube

[umbral crown]

Where your lv15 tempura

[ionic surge]

Who

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Temperance cube

[ionic surge]

Is that useful

[umbral crown]

The besto cube

[umbral crown]

It is

[umbral belfry]

gimme

[umbral belfry]

huge fan of dapper

[coarse solstice]

He got to play in the rain and smell the flowers today

[umbral belfry]

there was a husky today named kain, he was there to give u good luck for tomorriw

[swift mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1361204166919458896/1372250327956586618/Picsart_25-05-14_22-02-22-145.jpg?ex=68261735&is=6824c5b5&hm=a9f600149fd3601fe2fb142377a273452f627c4729fe84bc51214d227929d25a&

This looks hard, what do you think? I only see 2nd left and 3rd right winning here. The rest could go both ways.

Even in 2nd indom could fall on Xmaiden if Scarlet not strong enough

[umbral crown]

soon

[raven plover]

I dont think 4th left can get 2 RL right

[swift mango]

2.5rl maybe still one shot Scar. Ofc that's lower chance for Rossana survive... 4th should go to right yeah

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[raven plover]

[crystal flicker]

T1 might be right, since 1st volley of SG might kill Bisc

Rosa Nuke Noah Pepper, Noah survives if Bisc survives

Yeah right win

[ornate spoke]

[ionic surge]

Ah damn

[swift mango]

@fiery parcel, @outer grail

Synd probably win 2, 4, 5.

Imagine this guy with 2 x 6rl flexes team win the champion.... No justice in the world anymore.

[swift mango]

2 volleys, the p1+2 taunt by Noah... Not enough to kill biscuit in 2rl tbh... Even if they do, ASS could still survive until burst and clear them out.

[crystal flicker]

wdym 2

It's enough to kill invested HelmT, surely it's enough to kill Bisc

[swift mango]

One at 0.5rl and 1 at 1rl. Then Noah taunt.

Then only Noir hit Biscuit.

[swift mango]

That's because all SG hit HelmT.... And at least 2 still hit her after taunt.

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/ha-ha-nelson-the-simpsons-gif-14411011

[crystal flicker]

That BSoda might has Ele lines

[umbral crown]

bro is 2m

[swift mango]

If biscuit is killed before trigger on Noah he could likely win. Need a very heavy invested SG team I think.

[finite wedge]

who do y'all think has this?

[swift mango]

Left probably merry

Nvm not

[umbral belfry]

pls i beg of u my eyes

[fiery parcel]

18 min to maintenance.

Steal your rank for a few hours

[finite wedge]

leontius vs nana, this is the other half of Eon's bracket

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-light-mode-light-mode-ansem-sod-ansem-kingdom-hearts-gif-27101417

[ornate spoke]

now imagine what happens when i start genshin with the night theme startup

[swift mango]

Kraken before maintenance and I got 5 rocks... Better than double day...

[glad glade]

I need a second opinion on this. This time, the match for my cheer consists of pretty unusual matchups, and I'm very unsure if my prediction is correct. Attacker is at the top and Defender is at the bottom. Teams crossed out means that they lost. Is my prediction correct?

[finite wedge]

sorry, left doesn't win or left isn't merry?

[swift mango]

left isn't merry

[glad glade]

A key note: It's possible that the Defender Team 1 may be 3.5 RL, and that Jackal link made it jump to 3 RL in the previous battle

[worthy sorrel]

top tier pup. top tier hydrangea

or at least i think is hydrangea. lots of plants out there

[swift mango]

left has good chance to win if anything

[worthy sorrel]

also think it's pup. lots of animals out there

[coarse solstice]

Lilac close enough 👌

[umbral belfry]

any s?

[ornate spoke]

sucesss 😄

[umbral belfry]

now that nikke is down, time for hsr

[ornate spoke]

started at 58s lmao

[finite wedge]

I see, ty

[ornate spoke]

at this point im having more fun sniping last second than actually getting first loser sport (2nd)

[coarse solstice]

We'll find out after reset i think someone was eyeing my spot

[crystal flicker]

24% deficit SPA

[umbral belfry]

it was me in a different rookie bracket

[swift mango]

I don't even care to snipe at this point... To lazy

[glad glade]

Anyone?

[keen vapor]

How to fail snipe 101:
Try to Emilia nuke

[umbral belfry]

wouldn't p1 be in the top's favor? siren stuns noise, but can still fb due to rumani. and then noah + bisc hard counters sbs

unless if siren stuns noah?

[keen vapor]

Not even with maxed doll I'm safe I mean, +2% HP would probably keep me getting the ded emi with indom bug

[swift mango]

Maybe the right team doesn't have any investment on those units... At 24% even RH could one shot Scarlet...

[umbral belfry]

Yeah p1 and p4 should be wrong guesses imo

[keen vapor]

I've tried Scar nuke with 2 buffers but Cinderella doesn't dies, noise burst too strong

[glad glade]

My theory was that SBS would have longer sustained damage, though thinking about it now Biscuit should provide noah a second invincibility buff (2+7 compared to 10), which is long enough to outstall Blanc's indom

[umbral belfry]

Even with indom, noah + biscuit counters sbs hard. but you can get another opinion . But it might be different if biscuit doesn't give noah 2 procs

[swift mango]

Equip Emi with tempering... You could use Scarlet in the team I suggested even...

[keen vapor]

I need her with Bastion

[lapis field]

When someone sniped who I was sniping and ended up like this, means the sniping was a success and clutch at 16 sec of remaining time before resetting

[keen vapor]

Hime
Shake me

[swift mango]

You don't if you one shot...

[glad glade]

Nah she definitely should. There's pretty much no reason why Biscuit would give the buff to another unit

[umbral belfry]

So in short, I agree with everything but your P1 and P4 guess. Although defending SGs attacking Lap+ miiight be a little dicey

[keen vapor]

[glad glade]

Pretty much doesn't change the outcome

[umbral belfry]

Yeah you're right but I was confused bc it looks like you had both SBS teams winning vs a noah bisc

[glad glade]

Woops, I meant to reply to you lmao

[glad glade]

It's a gift from God himself. That's literally their teams

[crystal flicker]

How invested those Morans?

[glad glade]

What are the odds?

[umbral belfry]

[glad glade]

Pretty beefy. 100k+ CP plus purple doll on both of them

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

or you could use rapu instead crown... but wait, are your Emi tea, deficit? jackal cant handle deficit well ...

[glad glade]

Anyways, thank you!

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

Listen, I tried to snipe C1, not C3

[swift mango]

you don't use deficit teams to snip.

not against Nero stall

That's suicidal

[sleek imp]

Game bugged?

[keen vapor]

I wasn't on deficit Emilia loves to die

[lapis field]

After the quick attack option then leads to this

But the end result was shown at the end

[swift mango]

Maybe use rapu instead of Crown next time.... You could also try to out stall him.

why not record?

[crystal flicker]

Idk if P3 Moran can survive 4sg tbh
P5 is kinda RNG since they might survive Scarlet if Moran able to burst

[umbral belfry]

Mine survived 5 SG 100k + sr5 doll

Granted the SGs were pretty meh themselves

My moran is 4/7/7 iirc?

[crystal flicker]

It's really boils down to investment battle

[umbral belfry]

Their moran should be able to survive, maybe not if their SGs are unga bunga strong

[crystal flicker]

Esp if BSoda has high CP, she might has Ele

[glad glade]

I'll need to double check for that. But IIRC, I think that BS has a decently high CP. Same with the other SGs

[umbral belfry]

uh oh

[glad glade]

I'll keep that in mind when the game comes back up. Thank you @crystal flicker !

[swift mango]

You could use

Rapu+Emi+Blanc+Crown+Jackal

on the third team as well.