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Like WHY DOES THE GLASS CANNON TEAM HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS SHIT
yeah certainly so
Not gonna be able to CA without an OL moran/noise/centi this season
MUST WE SHOUT HERE?
Why can’t I get easy match ups while the guy with counter teams get easy stuff wtf
SBMM

But since this game's skill comes from money its money based matchmaking
Eh... i lost. But not the cooked team. I thought t2 would have won
money doesn't win here necessarily, it only helps. this guy lost despite whale due to 
T3 cooked well. But t2? I thiught t2 should have won.
Why Blanc.
Maybe if you switch 2 and 3
Skill issue because obviously right wins (left side loses because Jackal killed Cindy)
Cant. T3 just barely can win. Oppoennet t3 cp is 704k
btw what do you use to see those stats
at least he lost in cindy's new costume
Sad
Anis lived 
which I don't have yet... looks like they bought the levels to get it? 😄
I thought siren would have stunned noah.
I love Cindy but I’m patient with this one 
yeah I mean I get the outfit today lol
I understand it
I wouldn't do it but I get it
Biscuit burst instead
patience 
This is why specifically for this team Tempering > Resilience
this was your T2 btw lol
you sent slower than 4RL cindy comp against 3RL cindy comp 😄
Whut? Lol
@shell hazel anyway, sr15 doll is get 4 purple kit to sr10, 2 gold kit to sr15
Siren did stun Noah but... Biscuit burst
Because i wanted sirent to stun noah..hmmm
Yeah i just noticed thay
stopping their noah is good but you're still dead
If u want mirror stun, u need to 2 RL Noah too to counter
Run siren with scarlet on a 2-2.5rl set for anti Noah
damn that is lucky. My last one not so lucky. I'm going to wait until next drake haul and probably finish Siren SR-15...
Do i still need moran? If not i can opt for noah biscuit, siren cindy rumani
Spend that money into comms instead of shiftup xdd
Laplace was shot for me, I went to level 13
I may just focus laplace next solo raid
Me poor 45k left in personal bank
I think I can get laplace done in a whole solo raid with all the materials
I cant. Need scar in t3 against their 704k monster CP team
If she decides to be lucky
You are like people In my bracket crossing that 60 level gap to get me

This can work?
No
Why the Blanc tho?
ok so you complained about my name but at least i can spend it on comms for cindy x grave
What are you doing 
That’s just a wipeout
not wasting more gems on wipeout today, I get it soon 🙂
This?
U will get the Cindy nuke off but I would swap siren and rumani cuz siren gib u more damage
Trying to learn how to beat the other team. Composition wise. Without touching t3
you'll win that if your team is about 3RL
you can't kill noise
Should be about 3rl
you probably don't need biscuit
you might have to rely on indom sbs for htis
Biscuit so his Noah don’t die
Generally we slot in key B1/2/3 which defines the team arcehtype. The rest all typically burst gen fillers eg ClipRL and ClipSGs
So in this case, its Noah and Cindy
Swap siren and rumani and roll it and let us know
i legit can't think of a functional sbs 3rl team with both blanc and biscuit
siren will stun Noah, your own noah should trigger unless she dies 😄
Too slow
Biscuit will prevent Noah death
noise:
biscuit is 3RL without quantums
You should win though but risky
centi is quicker, but biscuit is safer, need to check the cp
Both are 3rl, siren stun Noah so he gets the nuke off while his own Noah block Cindy burst should work
yeah, siren at least buffing cindy damage some
(((((()))))
Noah wont block Cindy... Rather Cindy decoy blocks enemy Cindy...
hopefully your cindy is strong 😛
He does have to deal with noise buffed Cindy team tho
Depends on the damage output
me when i run jackal on a cindy team
He will win
Nope. Didnt work either. But we did burst first
Oh enemy is 3 RL
although not sure why this even works
All the theory worked. But we lost?
wym, Blanc Biscuit SBS is always 3RL? Unless you mean one that doesn’t lose to Siren, which there is probably none
It's exactly as you guys said
the latter
Vid here
Not nuff dmg 
Zzzzzzzz
Because left team is better
Same.CP vakue. I did swapped siren and rumani position
5mg takes 500 years for siren to stun just happens that the right one is also slow as shit so
Why dont u swap T2 and T3????
you're outside of deficit, but you're cindy was just too weak I guess
team 2 will fall into deficit against t3
So what?
Because my deficit in t3 will be much much worse
thoughts?
That team is not gonna die even on deficit
Show unit box
What's unit box?
is that a shotgun team without b1
As in full roster?
Actually I found a cursed lineup that has XMica cleanse at 3RL 
Yes
that would be an interesting watch
guess they just went for firepower over all else, most of SG impact is chomping through the team in reverse
That team is bad
also core 2 Guilty 
core 2 guilty
Blanc SBS Biscuit XMica Anis is a bad team.
its about as good as michael jackson's lastest song 5 years ago
adn its clearly gonna lose to scarlet team
the spare bodies for Guilty / Nihilister etc should be part of silver mileage or even the pvp credit
Missing Xmica, xanne, emi, but most of the PVP are pretty basic. Have not skilled most them up past 4/4/4, and only a few of them have OL
so far the odds are not in my favour but .. you know what. I kind of like my chances, think it's 3-2 one way or the other
Problems:
- Dies to 2 RL snipe (Rosanna, HelmTr, Scarlet, etc).
- XMica cleanses the earliest/latest(?) debuff, so if enemy has Taunt, the Taunt will be cleansed instead or any random Damage Taken/ATK Down.
- Any Biscuit outstalls it.
- 50-50 against Indom War.
Bad team.
It was losing to Scarlet no matter what your setup was
The only purpose is to not die to Siren
i saw someone with nuts on his name
You’re not getting 2.5RL with Biscuit Blanc anyway
SBS Blanc Biscuit is in fact one of the worst teams in CA.
top is attacker, bottom defender
Even SGs do better.
people run the sbs / blanc combo mainly as it's all they got though, I'm out of units by then 😄
and you have some investment for pve especially for SBS
That’s only from higher league perspective, it’s perfectly viable in lower league
Anybody got the same cheer?
bro if team 2 loses to that horrible shotgun team
Teams are slow enough you can get away with it
Kuwon what do you make of my matchup? I'm bottom I think it's L L W ? W
#pvp-arena message
2 RL Blanc SBS is in fact much better
that guy should prob quit the game
their lapT is treasured but team 5 speed still 3RL
It’s not that easy to get 2RL Blanc SBS with our pool
And if you match against 3RL SBS Blanc you probably lose
My lack of tetra supporter gear is unamusing
@unique wagon my pvp teams are kinda bricked atm.
top (attacker) wins right?
t1 lose
t2 win
t3 win
t4 win
t5 lose
you can try and invest in them some more honestly if you want to compete at a higher SPA level it's necessary
if you don't then you'll just get cp gapped by people that do
most units just need 4/4/4 skills, basic OL (all 4 slots ideally) and SR-5 doll at most
Basic ol is hard m8
don't need hyper investment but I think it goes a long way
I kinda wish they get rid of level sync in champ arena 
whether i win or lose depends on a sg vs sg fight god dammit 
nah it's better this way, or it's just whales win
btw what happened to your b1 in t2 @scenic hatch
Yeah that seems about right. Round 1 you probably have to split your Biscuit proc between Blanc and Centi since Alice shooting p5 so your invin runs out a little faster.
You can maybe check their round 4 performance last match and make a judgment based on how tanky it looks, but it also looks not in your favor
GET ME OUT OF TOP 32 HELLLL 
that happens a lot 😄
Check cp
what is this matchup
Sanis wins?
I faced siren last time in round 1 and she just stuns blanc so no indom works there, I think I lose 1 on that alone 😦
get me outta here hippo
< wins
Yeah. Im slowly trying to get there. Unfortunately there's a big backlog for raid/pve - mmast, manchor are now on my to do list. I did finish jackal, biscuit, scarlet, blanc, xmaiden, laplaceT,
Why does everyone bet against me I don’t get it
nobody believes in pinne
i'm just chilling on raid stuff for now until my pvp is where I'm happy with it 😛
Well no indom is not always an issue if they can’t stop SBS from wiping in 1.5 sec but Noah Biscuit does
Right team wins?
Is that what that means?

Who attacks
Just unlucky I guess
left (me)
538519
think it boils down to match 4 anyway with the stall vs cindy comp. My cindy is pretty well built she could nuke em
if not I lose to stall
Yeah check their last match, see how much damage they took
Not always perfect reference but it can give you an idea
I checked but the opponent team was a bit wtf and was destined to lose 😄
@shell hazel looks like you prob win next one
I dunno, think it will swing on a match, probably match 4
Even tho 2 of ur teams looks cooked
3-2 likely
Only Helm is water and even if she gets one shot she should get revived by Mana
She’s gonna land her burst before then anyway
Depends if your Cinderella has the damage
Tho if ur Noah is 3 rl ur prob fine
hi! i need 3 def teams. have all units, including drake+, helm+, viper+
noah is 3RL yeah
if rng is in my favor I make top 16 easy
release me from this top 32 hell
my cindy is good, not amazing amazing but fairly up there, she can hammer in some damage I'm sure of it
Ye they do have to survive 3 sec of autos with no lifesteal, just Mana heal
Then ur prob fine since u stall hard and Noah block helm healing and snipe
Tho if they get to 2nd burst cycle u might get dicy
which is possible
You can try bottom vs team 2 and top against team 3.
this is how their last match 4 went
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw0l-eL9M1c
Nothing surprising

no it was just to see how strong they were
Left I think
Their Rapu can actually take 6 SG volleys from 3SG
Actually no
Yeah can actually take 6 volleys, so at least their Rapu kinda tanky
I have intimate knowledge of how that team works 
Though Idk how strong enemy SG are
Right
Left
Left
Left?
Left
Pretty sure you at the very least kill Helm, Mana Rapu
I think I have a chance there, maybe not if they were properly built
Mine ain’t much better
They get 1 revive
nah that is miles better
@fiery parcel how
But 1 revive is still only 3 char that has to survive 3 sec of invin Noah auto
Shouldn’t be able to even come close to cleaning up
even if they revive though I still got my own rapu to heal etc, if half their team dies they can't do any damage 😛
Especially since Noise is healing
yeah, I'll post the matches tomorrow and try to remember to @ you on the results 😄
match 4 will be the most interesting one to watch I think
That first team is kinda bad tbf
I like to say you take this one but that team revolves around having 2 full burst cycles, if their helm and mana stays dead u win, if u hit cycle 2 and mana is alive then ur not gonna ejoy it, I say its 40/60 in your favor
The problem is because its not 2 RL 
Yeah that’s his problem
I'll cheer myself until I can't lol
team 5 if they get 2.5RL speed then right side win I think
yeah maybe if I run that team again I could swap em, but oh well 😛
No, ur Soda stuns them
can't wipe cuz biscuit
Yey fellow self cheer enjoyer
need to kill both noise and rumani to cut off their full burst
Biscuit doesnt block instant wipe
Cindy might die
Noise will 100% die. Rumani depends on counterattack RNG.
I always thought it would 
I'll recook team 1 again next season ig
Tbf Idk. When Biscuit was released, she didnt block instant wipe. Might have changed.
gonna need more tempura slot
I have some footage
which I doubt myself more and more lol
Left wins
How do you think my odds are kisenix? 
I don't even know how biscuit distribute invul cuz it looks like rumani and cindy got it eventhough centi is more to the left if wipe is calculated from left to right
@unique wagon
is there like a meta teams list that is regularly getting updated?
so I think it's just that they normally survive wipe and got biscuit added hp after?
so if high enough damage biscuit can't give invul to to be killed nikke like you said 
No need
It can kill if normal sg comps can kill
Propaganda teams, pinned in FAQ
Rumani and Cindy didn't get wiped
Centi got crit
Right win?
I think that noah is ded
i think typically left to right
ignoring the flipping
not my scar I'm cin team 
My goat (i also do 5SG no B1/B2)
Who needs to burst when u can kill
that's some crazy matchups though lol
scarlet without jackal, cindy p1 without protection 
SGs too OP 
Protection 
Problem is, I’m 100% pve main. So I have no resources on PvP units such as Rosanna and Pepper
Where is Noir
So I just use whatever I can use and then my built pve units are just better even without b3 but if I have invested pepper or Rosanna I will use ofc
I don’t even wanna put base 4OL tho
? Stat gap exists

cp gap doesn't
Id put in Noir tho instead of Guilty
My noir is not good. These are sr15 units (except guilty)
Maybe I will next time, as I just sr15 noir
seen pretty ridiculous stat differences and the lower team still getting to full burst without issues
SGs are the most stat dependent units
Need ELE too
Idk how that relates to cp gap not existing in CA but ok 
Maybe do Noir + Guilty instead to shut down Jackal. Remove SAnis.
SU abandoned it on day 1, so dw
Probably wind and iron SG since iron defender and Noise common p1/p5, not as many water p1/p5 to abuse elec SG
help. the middle column is my prediction
forty oras
lock in 🗣️
I'm top defending
me thinks right wins 1,2,4,5
U win 1,3,4
Wasn't sure about SG since it's my first run with it thanks!
Which I won some how
Maybe opponent SG were less invested last round
I can understand 1 2 4 but why 5?
Isn't the left team 2.5RL? Noah should burst I think
Centi and Noir AOE got me most of the way there
If they had a little more damage probably lose, Ros is probably stronger than Rouge
Unless their Ros is potato
Seems a lot stronger than the previous one
Actual decent investment probably 1 OL and 7's in skills
Not having noir done is criminal though
So 2 OL each at worst
Helm and gloves got my soda over 100
Hmm
Team 5 no Noah, its the blanc. I assume Blanc get gunned down, procs Rosanna, kills SBS/SG kills remaining SBS HP, Rapun revives SBS, but SG kills again
idk. I dont have experience with those kinds of T5 blanc teams 
Agreed. I sent a picture of my SG team my soda was less than I originally thought
Ye round 5 probably no good this time
That's ok, as long as the others turn out as expected 👌
Is this team work well?
Huh. Isn't blanc used in team 3 for both?
u win this 4-1 noh?
Blanc w/o biscuit kinda risky imo
that bracket with dollless p1s and p5s ez top 8 lol
Haven't updated my PVP team in a year prob. Need the cook gods to bless me with a new team
Dont mind building a new character. Still haven't gotten to Sanis
Current teams :3
after full burst end the opponent became so weak
they pulled the sasuske
now my nero team gonna face a Scar/Trina/DrakeT/RH/Jackal
same team it lost last season but this time im defending, maybe my odds are a bit better this time but too many buffers for scar

the feed will make the team 2 RL
Probably 3-2, 134 should be wins
My Team Looks Like A Dragon
I got hard countered 2-3 😦
https://youtu.be/Ao8Bvx1E5v4
Here's replays of my first Promotion Tournament match for Champion Arena S3 teams. Unfortunately RNGesus was not favourable this season and my opponent had 3 teams that hard countered my setup (Noah hard counters Cindy, Blanc Scarlet hard counters Emilia, Cindy with Siren hard counters SAnis with P1 Moran), resulting in my early exit from the to...

RNG Arena 
Such a failure of a game mode
gonna need devs to mark beta season frames separately when they ever fixed it and make it real season later
in-game replays not expiring this time?
thx
RNG's a biatch
This is why 2rl Emi is a pretty bad ideas. She automatically lose to 3rl Noah and 3rl blanc. In this case they got feed to 2rl Blanc but still a lose. I was thinking if I should do 2rl Emi but maybe not now. 
There should less 3RL Noah, but many 3RL Blanc 
3RL Emi loses to Rosanna
the system was rigged from the start
2rl Emi also lose to rossana what are you talking about?
It defending on the team though, Emi may not be hit by Rossana or revived
Emi burst is no good these days 
Rheax never had one. 
here, take it
the problem there is opponent's rapun stun all team.
he is genius to link rapun and scar with jack so rapun can stun
Probably in Scar Trina Jackal team
otherwise Mihara sac or just sac teams in general
This is where I would put my Rapu. IF I HAD ONE!
I told my union mate to link rapu p1 but he got linked Xmaiden instead.
pray to rngesus we get all the units we're missing 
no where else tbh. She shines best in SG comp
no scar for you then 😛
rngesus cant gv me Emilia 
I got Trina yesterday, it’s always possible 
why did rapun lose atk stat to xmaid?
too much diff LB?
ATK lines ofc.
Just let Rapu pray harder, she won’t die if she believe enough 
Rosanna Mari Quiry maybe. But wants Jackal/2RL/25% CS Helm
not a tried and tested team though
Needs invested mari with 4x atk OLs too
for very marginal gains
...... 25% CS Helm?? 
Yes
up and coming meta
Not even my Emilias 
What? You lost? 
Dang. Unlucky
My cheer won, he was lucky he wasn't Attacking.
This end of battle report doesn't show it, but the team almost died to B Soda nuke. So if shotguns were shooting in reverse order (killing Noise then Red Hood), it'd be a wipe
This seems like you'd win if you can Biscuit invincible counter Scarlet's basic attacks, still Noah your team, and outlasted while blowing up his entire team with AoE. Like Noah + Cinderella comp
this loses pretty consistently to him though 
RIP. What exactly happens, his Scarlet is indom and kills everyone with counterattacks even though she's tunnelling on Noah?
hecc I forget, probably something like that
@crystal flicker
Change of plans then. Idk if you can do it though.
Kill his Blanc with RL AOEs. Are you able to field non-Cindy RLs with high CP?
If you can do that, you likely win if your team has a Noah to block Scarlet AoE.
Like strong Emilia, strong Laplace.
SBS or La+ are my only two high power RLs. maybe xmaiden too
SBS probably won't work since she's like Cindy, a variant RL that doesn't really have a sizable AoE splash every hit
You can try replacing Cindy and switching positions with Emilia. And depending on how useful Biscuit is, replace her with Red Hood
The idea is when your Red Hood bursts, your RL's shots become very strong next volley, powered by RH B1 atk buff
And that'll hopefully execute the enemy Blanc
All depends on your Noah surviving without help, though
If she can't, put one of your linked characters in there so you last about the same time as enemy's link
thinking this?
That works
You outheal Scarlet's counterattacks
Helm lifeleech + Rapunzel heals.
If you don't just outburst Blanc's B2
Emilia survived with blanc's indom and nuked me 
I guess Scarlet died too fast so the burst still went off but the B3 became Emilia
Weird, your team 2 loss seems like Noah never invincible the team, yet your Emilia seemed like she was able to burst?
Nvm that lasted so briefly!
Only on Noah too
So actually that depends on investment. If his Rapunzel was better invested or my team was worse invested, the stun wouldn't happen lol. It's not a reliable strat
Indom is so tricky for me to figure out 
But yeah, overall I just got super unlucky with matchup orders. I have strong trust in my current teams being the best 5 that's currently possible but rock paper scissors will always be rock paper scissors. I don't plan on changing my teams for S4 unless a new meta unit comes out.
okay whew that hung on this time. noah burst went off just before scarlet's nuke, survived for a while with indom but cindy managed to survive her autos
speaking of rock paper scissors 
The only one weak point I saw in my team really is XMica and Noir can be replaced with RH and a RL to prevent Jackal feed if I 38% CS my Emilia, but I don't have rocks for that atm
I can never figure out the hotkeys to reliably start screen recording with ShareX 
The other is that SAnis team needs a backup B1 but there's no options atm except Rumani but that's swap won't be a net good one
guy is cp gapping with pve team in rookie, going to see if I can hunt him down after reset
497K CP
do you guys want to see a beautiful tale of revenge
sending two teams to try and fight it 😛
this guy even gemmed to kick me 5-6x daily even when im #3, for whatever reason
his time of reckoning has come
i'll never gem on rookie on purpose lol (I've done it a couple of times by accident) 😄
some guy can beat me 5x if they want I'll come back and smack em on resets
yeah he been kicking me 5x daily for like a month or two now
now its over for him, payback time
start of the revenge arc 😄
i dont think im gonna pull crown on that account anytime soon so im fully diverting resources for jackal, noah, thelm, and trina now
and if i do pull crown after exhausting all resources, thats still a blessing in disguise
I can usually boost back and forth a bit, not necessarily going all at one angle, I can boost skills in some units and gear in others etc
I'll give that one a shot tomorrow, I don't want to smack him too many times 
think I figured out my screen recording finally so I can do that then too
WoT’s ur current
my campaign team 😄
I don't want to let anyone test out my SPA teams so I set pve team as well
where's my damn cake? 😄
Ur not my mom are you
no but you gotta share cake
Tis Mother’s Day
I’m not even getting cake just my mom
Me skipping meals to fund NIKKE
revenge 
yes
just farm him from now on 
What stopped my team (defender) from not getting killed by the 2RL scarlet?
this wasn't even close, both teams won without a sweat. Crown was p1 as I thought she might die which would still let Noah burst
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OwTBM1xfJ0
that's not a 2RL scarlet lol
prolly because that scarlet has like 0 steroids on her burst
Oh, you right, it says 2.5
That makes sense
Hey I been wanting to update my teams but I could use some suggestions, here is my teams
And here are my units
it will get to 2RL with feed actually looking at it
Cuz jackal right
but it's a dumb setup, no one is amping scarlet damage here, scarlet needs buffs
especially if she's not that well built
yeah scarlet hit you but noah b2 = scarlet tickled you
that's why you normally have a b1 that boosts atk damage, or b2 like trina doing it
if their scarlet is low CP it will also explain a lot
Eventually I'll have my own drunk katana
so common to see scarlet with RH / siren / liter even for b1
I haven't seen a liter in a long time
centi viper cind helm noise
scarlet blanc rh xmaiden jackal
noah biscuit sbs siren laplace
Cubes:
quantum as for picture attached to ensure you hit the thresholds
vigor on blanc, noise
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube
Thanks for the help, I'll get to building
no you'd do that if you were desperate in like CA or w/e where you needed RH / siren elsewhere
probably decided by T4, if enemy has half assed nero/moran, you should win
she works, but she feeds
yeah that's what we thought as well, some people think I win t4 others don't 😄
it's investiment dependant
a nero moran team like Rosy's you'd lose, a nero moran team like half-assed ones we've seen will still die to tradeoff
86k nero seems a bit half assed
100k moran is probably leaning on slightly better than average
they all got SR dolls but I suspect they went right to SR-0 based on that cp
cross your fingers i guess
that's better for you
rapu happens at 3RL B1, your cindy happens at 3RL B3
meaning her revive is useless
I appreciate your input and how it matches with my own assessment as well, I like to have a stab at it myself and not just ask you to tell me the results 🙂
so thanks as always sir!
lol this is the first time I have seen 2 scarlets fire at the same time almost.
Did their scarlet not reach Helm before my Scarlet wiped them? Does Scarlets burst go in a line along the nikkes left to right?
one with more burst gen/charge speed may be quicker
Is a tie in pvp a thing what if you both die at once some how? Or does the game always give it to someone.
even if only slightly
Just confirming that my team would lose here. T1 and T2 for sure is L, and I think T3? Unless I somehow survive and they don't pick off my Bay. I'm attacker, and top.
someone has to win can't have a tie I reckon
Their jackal was doing work there, I would have beat them in burst gen by a mile without that feed.
I thought T helm was enough to out burst them I wasn't expecting it to be so close
oh it is with a scarlet
liter is high feed there
I saw rapi and alice on their team and thought there is no way they beat me in burst.
Naga is as well
But that jackal feed is powerful
you are basically saying come have a buffet jackal
Reverse bullying 
too bad reshuffle is soon so you can't enjoy it fully
unless you both pair up again lmao
last time reshuffle didn't change much
i think they might still be able to challenge me if they shuffle their team a bit, because im lower on cp
She is there for combat pad but maybe I should remove her since this team is so sensitive to burst gen timings.
but my secret is i still have 5 OLs to do on that team so my cp will be gucci soon too
we shall see...
it's not ideal tbh, def swap in better batteries when you can
im currently only matching their burst gen (for cp purposes) because equal burst gen = my noah bursts before their scarlet bursts
I was about to say I lose but their only B1 is in P1 so Siren stun may really slow down their burst.
So idk
If i get paired with who used to bully me in rookie until i whaled locked in its on site 
locked in 🗣️
Also should Rapi be bursting here instead of Alice?
alice will be bursting due to their positions
Not what I meant
I know Alice will burst I meant should Rapi burst instead since Alice is going to stall on biscuit, where Rapi may get some AoE chip in before the immunity wears off.
Alice shoots back to front as attacker
Then again Rapi's AoE is pretty worthless in pvp
Rumani can’t taunt p3
it needs a quick team for her to work, but regardless alice bursting wins
Wdym
if it was noah/moran instead then oof
So you kill Biscuit first then Mana
when attacking, SRs hit pos5
Oh.
If your Alice was p2 she’d get taunted by Rumani
So attacking snipers go from right to left in team comp?
But there’s no issue here, you play around it
who was this person btw
since i think we were in the same bracket back then too
nalfen or what's his face
but if we meant now it's reverse bullying 
oh wait rookie
nvm we were in the same spa, THEN we were in the same rookie... i think

also, you've been avenged. but my CA S3 story might end here 
it depends all on t4
🫡
hello, I'm having a hard time defending without scarlet and spa defense, thank you
my other account got knocked out too, but its okay
i knew that would happen because my shiny new units have 0 invest

t4 hinging fight for both of us hime
Is yours a sg too
Also this sucks, my burst gen is horrible but I can't move Naga or else I get deficited.
I think Scarlet is dead
before burst
mine is cindy vs stall
I mean their team isn’t super high damage
you have no other battery that doesn't lose too much?
You might live, you’re getting fed from counters
They have the 221 stat boost
you dont have another unit that can keep you above 187k?
you only need 187K not to be in deficit
It’s 2x defender 2x support
And Crown is shooting at half speed
So Scarlet is only real threat
Crown and Asuka.
And she’s low ammo she might even have to reload
Units that are amazing in PvE that get heavy investment but aren't much use in pvp is sad.
So you have a decent chance to live
also scarlet is immune for 2s thanks to trina
I can see
Noise Noah Cindy Helmt Rumani
Scarlet Blanc XMaid Centi Jackal for 2 teams. I haven't checked the speed on the sbs team but should at least be 3 rl
so she doesn't need to survive that much 😛
Yeah you basically blank the first 20 bullets from their Scar so if they don’t have ammo lines they instantly have to reload
I worried for nothing it wasn't even close.
Also round 1 was funny, mana revived biscuit and she was alive again for a half a second before being blown away by Alice again. 
Cool.

my go to is that first cindy team, sbs/blanc/rh/maidenx/jackal... but third team I don't know
Its so hard to maintain with brackets of siren and scarlet
I'm not at my pc rn so it's a bit hard to look at other options given other key units being used. could always make a cp gap team?
but sbs blanc rh xmaid jackal is a valid team too yeah. unfortunately its easily countered
it's not so much bad teams in your case, but lack of scar does hurt 
lacking her wasn't that bad until trina came...
Yeah I would personally just cp gap the last team, but maybe someone else can cook better
what's pmaid investiment and skill lvls?
hmm can use her then
pmaid blanc rh xmaiden jackal
naga centi cind helmt rumani
noah biscuit sbs siren noir
quantum on xmaiden, jackal, noir to hit burst gen thresholds
vigor on blanc, biscuit
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube available
finish laplace treasure to replace noir
improve CP on your utilities, in particular: jackal, noah, centi, trina, biscuit, rumani, noise
wishlist scarlet, can then replace pmaid for her, may aim for 2RL glass cannon scarlet with trina afterward
once noise is higher CP replace naga with noise
I gotta get better at cooking 
thank you firefly. yes I also can't get another laplace copy yet..
Pray for t4 like you've never prayed before 
my t4 is also my deciding match and it's a SG vs SG 
we can't let our bracket fall 
im just wondering what the account creation window is for our CA bracket
I won't pray! As evident of my luck yesterday! 
But I am trying for the gamba frame and want to put my bet on the losing team
you two are ~ice dragon saga right
i also want the frames
lock in 🗣️
so i know that our CA bracket has at the very least, old tales players
i wonder how much further
I didn't know if to pull or not to pull back then, so I missed out on the ice dragon saga
what if it gets shuffled and our next CA bracket we're the elders and we're going up against like... trina starters
so we become the wall that motivates them to ~~whale ~~ Lock in just to beat us?
err sorry not trina, more like maids or mana lmao
I feel like we'll stay in our ca bracket and we all grow together but if we were to bully
i wonder who the "youngest" players are in our bracket
somewhere out there, VITAEL is plotting his revenge against me
so i poke everyone evenly
except BIGD
BIGD is BIGL now
its war
imagine if i 🗣️ lock in 🗣️ one day and the moment i win against hime i just start blasting her 5x daily
pent up frustrations

LOL
I wanted to be lucky and wasn't attacking too.
a bit? That's basically uninvested. Who know, he could have her skill 1&2 maxed and sr10 but no OL at all.
win - Trina R-15 in 100 blues not bad
usually it's nearer 200
need to see if I can unbrick xmaiden off SR-0 at some point, but it's going to hurt a bit
oof sr-0s
this event from all the doll mats i unbricked my biscuit and modernia to sr-5
it's about the only unit I have with SR-0 tbh
I need a lot of purple RL dolls though, or will do eventually
you keep dragging me over to the strategy channel but I don't use it 😄
got like 6B but my fire dps is bricked too much pvp investment vs raid units, I won't mald it, this will wind up about 5-10% prob
in rookie i'll atk whoever rank 1 when i'm below and i'll atk whoever rank 2 and 3 when i'm rank 1.
so just chill it's only rookie
it's a reliable strat only for f2p
0buff scar
even if i put crow, she will survive
ScarBS Blanc RH ClipRL ClipRL
3RL?
ye
Can sparkling soda potentially nuke a Cindy team?

if the bp gap is wide enough sure
I still need to overload her gear and get her burst up.
Just trying to see if shes worth investing
She's worth investing for raids
S tier for raids, A for pvp
I would use:
noise, centi, sparkling soda, laplace, Helm
I think laplace could finish them off too
1371K
1321K
1364K
Did you try @tropic summit's comp #pvp-arena message yet 
I alr checked the feed should make you 2RL, & with additional attack buff from MAnchor should be enough to Nuke them (~+50K Atk)
Additionally, since your Noah and HelmT is free, you can make 2RL Cindy for 3rd team and potentially beating that Scar comp too
Soda's nuke is rather small, you need hella buff to make her Scarlet level
And Ele% to beat Cindy
yea the whole thing was to get her max ele to take out cindy. Wish I could test this out some how
Lemme see
any thoughts who wins here?
you best pray soda stuns blanc 
but blanc w/ anis is a bad sign on bottom's part, possible to lead to misindom
i'd lean more to the 2 rl blanc indom should everything go as they should
😬

believe in soda
then again i know she stuns, but w/o a taunter is it just random?
if soda stuns blanc you win, if not and blanc indom scar it's 
soda 🙏
just realized something else. idk how invested your soda is + if she's linked, but would she die from scar's counters? 
i don't think so but
shes linked sr5 1LBO
its a very even match he also invested purple dolls lol


Gamble addict 
Gamble upon gamble upon gamble 
This one if I'm reading BSoda's burst buff right
Both Lv400, SR15, Lv 10 Cube, Full OL Lv5
BSoda: 4x Black Atk + 4x Black Ele, Bond 30, Max Skills
Cindy: Bond 40
God I didn't factor into rumani's taunt from burst too
but soda should be able to stun scar/blanc in time before her full charge
yeah thats one of the rng, heres hoping anis steals indom
Gl ace, i hope this isn't the deciding match 😭
it is! soda decides!
lock in soda
if what you say is true with soda stunning p1 + p2, rumani shouldn't be able to taunt in fb time w/ a full charge
So, Max BSoda can reach 85% of Cindy's HP with her burst
oh w8 ur right, she needs to fb then full charge b4 she taunts, theres hope
100% if you add RH B1 buff lol
Believe 
T2 dodnt win
understandable
but its still the start of my revenge arc
gib rocks
Oh the last season winner's here
The deficit is nonexistent however use a b2 to sack instead
You mean a meat shield?
If naga doesn't die you lose out trina bonus buff
Naga has full overloaded gear I think, or almost full I doubt she is dying.
Yeah, practically, but this is seldom used unless they havr something that stuns your p1 or cannot kill your p1 at all
Welp
Rosy, are you winning your next match? The match my alt is cheering for is yours 
haha I see you're facing that player who always has P1 Cindy but made Top4 season 1 and Top8 season 2
I hope you beat him 
this is my friend, who just auto mw first time
anyways, he needs a sp arena team any suggestion?
tbh im not really sure, the bad thing is my nero team is facing his scar team for the 2nd time
i fought him last season in top 16 and lost but now i think i have a bit more chance to win
im also hoping that, Team 1 kinda a sure win. Team2 if i survive burst i win but unlikely to do, team 3 kinda a 50/50, team 4 as wel, team 5 is a sure win. its a whole RNG at its best
the pain is real
at first i was thinking to leave my nero team in team 3 but in last minute i moved to team 2

i if win this match, its a sure pass for champ top 8


ScarBS Blanc RH Anis Jackal
Crown HelmT Centi Siren Drake
BSoda Ein Noir Naga Noise / Auto
He appricate it, also am I cooked
Ever since this guy started to play, I've been getting all purple/blues
He has more ssr than me when I strated the game 2-3 weeks before him
My neromoran is also in team 2, but I messed up my nikke ordering and it probably loses to a lot more than it should
(I forgot to protect my backside
). Did you always have yours in the MoranKiriRapHelmNero order? Or is this new updated order
RNG is a bit"h
Or 💳
he paid 80$ just for gacha skin
but bro has like, insane roster compare to me, he auto mw first time and beat it, whereas I was walled for 2 day
Well these games doesn't hide that they are pay to win
It is what it is, just enjoy with what you have
Slowly you will get them
Through this event I got RH SBS and Rapunzel 
i use this set up just for CA in case SG strikes but in sp or rookie not that order
its the normal thing to do
i did get it the next day at lv99

Hahaha. I think need to OL my pvp. Trina, rumani, moran in that order
Jackla, biscuit and noah already OL x 4

got that pass full before CA season 2
did 3 nikkes SR15, some max skills and good stuff
You wait I said 
For the record I'm lv70 now totally free. 3 more weeks and I would finish drake mission.

Become the underdog story 
no i have 2 team losing by default
the cindy team facing scarlet is 100% loss regardless
making it 3, so i can't win
finish that before CA season 4
use some gems and you will be rewarded with at least 2 max dolls
I know my luck.
trust the process
im saving some gems now for a future maxwell pass
or laplace pass
I already got 2 max doll, drake and Siren since drake pass started. Not the luckiest around but not pity 10 level bad either

i'm surprised lap doesn't have at least one costume by now actually 
she will get one, trust the copium
I do trust in my consistent mediocre luck 
the power up one, gacha skin
What if Drake event stays forever 
not gonna happen
Or until new treasure batch comes
we need the matis pass
Tried against challenger 5. Won. Better cp deifict.
Maxwell 
@unique wagon
I doubt it. Is Alice event still on rn?
Yes
yeah
So is diesel
i never and would never finish it
But this actually has a chance
And yes, Alice diary is forever
Diesel one stay forever ofc
imagine investing on alice
You mean Privaty one?
could not be me
no more diesel skin
She was my main unit for Campaign. Beggar can't be choiser

The sr15 doll can't be reseted.

Hey, I didn't know Cindy would be released and take her place in my campaign team 

I'm no prophet
like rem was god tier till crown was released


Rem wasn't that good to be honest. Nothing comparing to the duos.
Alice on the other hand is still top unit for campaign if you have the god hand or macro.

Ask @pale knoll who cleared at 42% deficit if RH and Alice aren't his top DPS.
Do I lose here?
(Bottom/ Defense)
Looks like a pretty bad match up on most rounds
same I dont have sr15 on alice 
bricked acc fr
SP Arena team ideas? I want to invest into more pvp units but don't know who to prioritize. The power deficit really hurts 
i almost have the teams for next CA
trying to do a decent team 5 is hard
how can i beat him? For the blanc team putting sbs or blanc at P1 they would get stunned. If i put another nikke they would steal the indom?
Would a p1 linked indom noise work?
She would get stunned, but jackal would be able to burst, then blanc, then sbs
just move jack to p1? 
then again not vs cindy would that work i think 
put vigor on jack / helm if youre too lazy to check HP so indom land on sbs
Wouldn't she still get stunned?
oh wait he's running a 2 rl comp 
no its 2 RL
siren would stun after jackal already bursted? 

#pvp-arena message + #pvp-arena message
fair to say attacker (vizkius) wins then?
t1 loss
t2 win
t3 win
t4 win
t5 loss
now you just pray the next siren stun on indom sbs doesnt make you lose the match 
I just wanted to see my Emi win a decent intended match up once but it's always target the weakness I left....
last time it's p1 Blanc vs Siren x3. This time it's P5 on Attack vs SG x3. 
Like someone review my comp and decided to give my emi the worst possible outcome.
Swap the enemies of 2 season against my 2 Emi teams and I would come out winning easily
as long as starting hp of sbs is less than jackal and helm its fine?

yes
if its too close like 10k HP better vigor / temper it just incase
Siren would never stun my Scarlet 
I can't say the same to mine 
but i won't give up my ammo lines 
cant win dam, any ideas? No Noah
I never had them tbw 
-# Help, I'm brick
oof the stun on sbs too
if you're not on a deficit by adding bay, she would be able to eat scar's nuke for t3 if at same speed/faster
But no buffs 
He can't, he doesn't have a noah
2RL scarlet with bay?
no bully 
I haven't tried a scar + bay comp personally. only moran/bay/helm and that stops em
so i can't confirm how scar + bay would do 
My moran bay not trained i should train them?
i'd skip t1 personally, too much trouble
Haha at first people told me to skip t3 now skip t1
I did
(and rejected it for many seasons)

Didnt i gv u the solution previously
i can see reason to build moran, but not priority
i tried quite afew solutions cant rmb which was urs
T1: Skip
T2: 2RL Scar Trina
T3: Bay Cindy 2RL (Rumani Bay Cindy THelm Centi
hmm that then u didnt give before but i need to train bay up
seems like bay is a priority to train for me?
Check the difference in cp on t3 first before anything else
bay works fine at 1/1/1. Though a hit to ur cp
My Moran needing more limit breaks
help, I'm PVP slave

Me too. My wishlist all pvp units 
anyone one have any idea?
maybe left. Kinda close though
Left
....... Left?
....,.... Right
Uh, it's complicated, max core Scarlet makes me think counter will kill SGs...
Uuuuuuhhhh check how it go previous match for Moran Nero
But it might be not in time be due to feed diff
who atker/def
the order is as shown left right
ok
thanks for the help btw
He'll made it to burst, XAnne rev and win the match
i think left wins 1,2,4. But quite close
this
Not maxing doll for max core Scarlet is criminal though
She might die
I use similar comp with Viper, made it to burst 1 but Viper dies coz 0 invest lol
Due to lack of maxed doll Scar, have to agree
Change RH to clipRL or clipSG
T3 is cp deficit 
Can you imagine SG comp with Bay? 
rip, gotta gv up
You would have to gain roughly 20k-ish to get out of deficit on t3. 
so should i train moran rosanna or bay or Rapunzel as priorty?
It's possible, but SG sacc should be 2RL anyway, idk if Bay's shield will be useful
uses jackal on cindy team
uses blanc noir on cindy team
Personally my order would be rosa > moran > rapu > bay. however rosa must have high investment, and that will take a while
I was talking about testing dmg on rookie but Emi shot didn't hit and waste a try. 
alongside moran iirc? but she is somewhat doable on budget
how much do i have to train rosanna?
probably focus on existing units, 4OL
iirc it's high ele + atk rolls, 7/10/10 but i might be wrong on skill levels
i agree w/ rheax
skill 2 depends on which team you're tossing her on
ah right true
hmm but existing units cant solve the enemy defense? I think I might need to train up some new pvp nikkes to add to the roster?
u could probably beat them, but would need try a few niche comps
if you're doing 4 SG Ros, you can leave skill 2 at lv1
Scar Jackal Ros can also leave at lv1
oops 
Lv up OL gears, reroll for higher CP
but if you're doing an actual sac team then you need lv10
cuz slow sac has bad gen usually
oh well i don't regret leveling up her skills. i'm gonna use rosa eventually 
Rosanna stonks in CA too
Maybe Bay can add survivability against Cindy 
4/1/10 is probably the minimum usable req though
@quick lake next unit is RL
I'm scared
I have drake treasure next CA 
you just might get unlucky with only 3 dispel
that should be doable for me
confirmed?? 
although rn i'm at 4/7/7
cutting it close
but most of the time 3 dispel is enough

#pvp-arena message
If anyone wonder SG Rosa vs Scarlet
We need a skip unit c'mon 
clip RL clip RL 


what can I run against this rookie team?

i started playing during ice saga









