pvp-arena

[raven plover]

no jack no biskit blanc

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gif-drake-gif-26307972

[umbral crown]

I feel like i won the lotto

[raven plover]

congrats, Im waiting for nitro the giveaway

[umbral crown]

Thanks

[swift mango]

Unbricked successfully congratulations 🎉

Now max her out and clear that campaign

[keen vapor]

He won't

[swift mango]

Siren+RH+Cindy+HelmT+(+Crown).

Campaign team that's also arena units

[heady peak]

Does saying soon with a G instead of an S time you out?

because I was time out and I had that in there.... but i'm not saying it again to test it

[rich ledge]

is this good for SP def? Or i should swap members around?

[coarse solstice]

Goonette is ok but g.. oon isn't

So you just have to be creative 👌

[keen vapor]

I have 5%

[true tiger]

pvp unit

[umbral crown]

have to try something for motherwhale

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

@keen vapor

[hushed kelp]

You probably dont need RH on scar team if trina and scar are decently invested. You could get it to 2RL

[keen vapor]

Grosero 😠

[umbral crown]

thats 2m at 367

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

but now im debating myself... noah C3 or Helm C3

[keen vapor]

How I'm supposed to be higher if Soda CP sucks

[umbral crown]

[oblique ridge]

Is 3RL fast enough for a Blanc team to actually indom?

[umbral crown]

depends the enemy and the investment of the units

[keen vapor]

It's what we did at first

[oblique ridge]

So 3RL works, but indeed it's blind matchups in CA so it may or may not matter. Figures

[umbral crown]

yeah

thats the thing, we do not know which teams ours gonna fight

[keen vapor]

HOW

[umbral crown]

200 silver tix

@polar echo you C6

Pelg on the move to get into CA next season

[keen vapor]

SODA'S NOT A LAUNCH NIKKE I CAN'T BUY SODA DUPES

[umbral crown]

wait for soda treasure

stuns for 2 secs

[keen vapor]

3 stuns!

[oblique ridge]

No, Soda treasure will be "Increases Boing level"

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

Damn why you calling me out

[swift mango]

101010 51010 isnt decent?

[umbral crown]

@swift mango

[keen vapor]

Imagine being able to max Trina burst

[swift mango]

What about your miranda? Finally crapping her?

[umbral crown]

mine is 7-10-10

[umbral crown]

she can wait a bit more

[swift mango]

I even s3lv7 my rumani

[keen vapor]

You guys always have more investment than me

[umbral crown]

till dupes and max doll

[coarse solstice]

Ready to bring home the belt 🏆🏆 Lock IN!!! 📢

[umbral crown]

will do miranda 7-10-10 after i max RH skills

RH already 7-7-7

[swift mango]

If you go Noah p1 without Biscuit often then you might want core her up... but it's dangerous now with siren so might as well go for Helm.

[umbral belfry]

I'm gonna lose to the finalist/winner again

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

in sp she is P1 but nobody attacking

in CA she is P2 but still thinking with new cooks she could be without biscuit but P1

[keen vapor]

My P2 Noah died on the end of season...

[swift mango]

don't let noah steal noise taunt

[umbral crown]

last time a boi tried his luck was 19 days ago

[coarse solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pray-rngesus-beg-gif-14727259

[keen vapor]

Noise advantage is 4% CS

[umbral belfry]

Surely getting lap+ and drake+ will come in clutch

[coarse solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-dont-let-your-dreams-be-dreams-go-for-it-claim-it-shia-la-beouf-gif-16079495

Honesty they will help you a bunch Lapt is so good.

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

roll for Noah CS or Unroll noise.
Noah p1 isn't safe now so Noah need to have higher CS than Noise now.

[oblique ridge]

Noah can steal it? By shooting faster?

[keen vapor]

WHAT.

[keen vapor]

Is it really Noah steal?
-# this was a recording until you said that

[swift mango]

if noise had higher cs ofc noah steal...

[oblique ridge]

I'm confused

Can someone restate in plain terms the entire situation?

[keen vapor]

P2 needs to be higher CS than P1 to.... Uh.... Something?

[swift mango]

not steal taunt

[keen vapor]

Right....

[oblique ridge]

So if P1 taunter is faster than P2-P5 taunter, P1... will lose taunt to the other taunter?

[keen vapor]

Ok, 2% of said CS is by Adjutant so.....

[oblique ridge]

And that's on-hit taunt we're talking about here, right, not any other taunt effects. Like Noise and Noah's basic hits

[keen vapor]

So I have to roll Noah now....

[oblique ridge]

I can't see that making sense, but I'll just go with it

Because my Noah is already faster than Noise anyway

[keen vapor]

You shoot faster → you taunt first → you lose aggro to the slower taunter

[spiral onyx]

||deez nuts deez nuts deez nuts deez nuts deez nuts deez nuts deez nuts deez nuts
deez nuts deez nuts deez nuts
deez nuts deez nuts
deez nuts deez nuts deez nuts deez nuts deez nuts ||

[heady peak]

Chargespeed and attack speed

[fiery parcel]

Not sure if t2 can win. T1 should be ok? T3 is ?????

[heady peak]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[umbral belfry]

It's like 1-2 days of further waiting after this 😭

To set up teams

[coarse solstice]

Time to squeeze in those last minute upgrades and spend time in prayer

[umbral belfry]

believe in SR luck

[swift mango]

Use team 1 to hit team 2. Use team 2 to hit 3, move Rumani to P1.

Use team 1 to hit team 2. Use team 2 to hit 3, move Rumani to P1.

[unique wagon]

Just run this and no more gambling.

[umbral belfry]

Ura getting an emilia

and SAnis

[fiery parcel]

Swapped t1 to fight t3, but maintained t2. T2 was sweaty. Hahaha

[coarse solstice]

Shhhh don't tell people will realize I'm a SU plant

[umbral belfry]

[unique wagon]

U know ure saved by no ammo right

Not having max ammo OL saved ur ass

[fiery parcel]

I have no idea what im doing. but yes. I guess i was saved by luck

[unique wagon]

Not luck, saved by brick

You bricked urself and that brick saved you

[umbral belfry]

SR blessed me, ty shift(y) up

[unique wagon]

You dodged Siren's stun by reloading

[fiery parcel]

Because scar had no ammo lines, she did her final atk faster?

[fiery parcel]

Oooo

[unique wagon]

U get 1 ammo line and u lose immediately

[fiery parcel]

What should i do next?

[unique wagon]

Noah Biscu first team ofc. Scar last team.

Those are some terrible def teams.

[upper grove]

what about ppl who started later w/o sanis xanne or emilia

[unique wagon]

Basic teams that are each weak to Rock, Paper, Scissor.

Making defense teams should be strong against Rock, Rock, Rock and weak to Paper, Paper, Paper.

That's how you win on defense.

[unique wagon]

Hard to to do T3 without SAnis. That team needs buffer.

[umbral crown]

imagine having X.Anne. could not be me

[fiery parcel]

@unique wagon thanks. That worked

I need a better t3

[gaunt viper]

Thoughts on beating this comp? I beat their t2 but my t1 and t3 lost.

[unique wagon]

Possible

[swift mango]

@quick lake

[unique wagon]

Not the teams, the entire comp

Can any1 actually try this

Meh it probably dies to Noah Biscu comp anyways

[swift mango]

Auto lose to biscuit but could work as 5th team in CA

Just don't meet biscuit or Blanc.

[umbral crown]

first must be someone with them at 17 cs

[unique wagon]

[unique wagon]

Hard

[gaunt viper]

sure is

[unique wagon]

Those are in fact solid comps

[hushed kelp]

Sr10 noise enough or go to sr15? sanis still at sr0 and thinking about working on her collection

[swift mango]

You are attacking but get countered instead. (Team 1) Skill issue.

[unique wagon]

You can win T1

[gaunt viper]

I feel it but I'm just not sure the order cause Siren

[unique wagon]

Liter Trina Centi Scarlet Jackal = 2 RL

Wait

[swift mango]

Use team 3 to hit team 1, but move liter to p1.

Use team 1 to hit team 3 as is.

[unique wagon]

Let me check enemy speed

[gaunt viper]

ah cause B1 goes off before Siren stun?

[unique wagon]

Yeah shud be ok

[heady peak]

would it be better for me just to put regular Anis in my sync

and add to team 5 instead of SBS... I can get regular Anis to 4/4/4 that's it

[unique wagon]

Cant win team 3 without Rosa tbh

Emilia 1 buffer wont deal enuf dmg

[gaunt viper]

yeah I don't have an invested Rosa and now being in CA for the first time and trying to make some sort of comp work is making it real difficult

[crystal flicker]

Should I replace SAnis with ScarBS?

[unique wagon]

Nvm dont Rosa. The solution to team 5 is. Ironically. Mihara Blanc Rapu X X. with Mihara sac.

Or Emilia Blanc RH double buffer

Or some similar SAnis shenanigan

You can win with buffed SBS probably too

[crystal flicker]

I really ditch RH this CA ffs

[unique wagon]

No

[gaunt viper]

hmm perhaps, my SBS is my most invested unit too

[unique wagon]

Not enuf speed is the problem

[gaunt viper]

True I wasn't sure how to make that part work

[crystal flicker]

What about replacec Siren with RH tho

Siren 3.5, RH 3

[unique wagon]

I assume no RH right?

Cain

[raven plover]

if you beat 2 why dont you move scar team to p1 but swap scar and liter pos, put quantum on trina centi jack

[swift mango]

My next CA will be without RH.

[crystal flicker]

Can 13% CS HelmT get 2.8RL?

[swift mango]

Wish me luck.

[crystal flicker]

Tried rolling but nothing today

[gaunt viper]

that's exactly what I was advised to do actually. but while I have you. Blood mentioned earlier something about following you CA squad but I can't find it anywhere. care to help with that?

[swift mango]

My rock was 000 001 001 last 3 days.

[unique wagon]

You can try this against their team 3 assuming Blanc doesn't explode, or Anis instead of Rumani

[raven plover]

you can search my img history on #questions

[unique wagon]

First team just run Liter Trina Centi Scar Jackal

[swift mango]

Unless you sure Blanc could tank it move her to p2-3.

[unique wagon]

Hang on a second thats not 2 RL

[unique wagon]

Is your Liter linked

[gaunt viper]

you think that would be more suitable than a Emi, Blanc, RH comp then?

[unique wagon]

You have RH?

[crystal flicker]

So far my CA is
2RL Scarlet
2.5RL Cindy
2RL Sacc
3.5RL Siren
3RL Stall

[gaunt viper]

yeah my best invested 2nd to SBS

[swift mango]

@umbral crown

[gaunt viper]

Yes she is

[unique wagon]

Then why tf are you using Liter

[crystal flicker]

Just confirm, Siren stun in CA is 2.5RL?

[unique wagon]

I guess theres no problem with that but its so random

[swift mango]

Because she is linked and could be P1?

[gaunt viper]

it was to not use her burst due to the lineup

[unique wagon]

Is ur Emilia invested

[gaunt viper]

I had an issue where Trina was p2 and RH was p3 but Trina got killed so I swapped to Liter p2 and it worked

[swift mango]

My Emi is s3 lv8 so bricked ....

Just remember that I should upgrade her instead of Rumani ...

[unique wagon]

Either should work as long as Blanc doesn't pop in the first team.

[heady peak]

would this be better than I have now (left is updated, and right picture is current)

[unique wagon]

Maybe if emilia not invested RH burst is ironically better

[swift mango]

Yes

Defending on CP though

[heady peak]

yaaaa.

[crystal flicker]

Can Tempering + SR5 Blanc survives 3.5RL?

[unique wagon]

You didnt answer my question is Liter linked or will Trina be linked

[gaunt viper]

my Emi is invested but not super invested

I did

[heady peak]

almost 600k CP

[gaunt viper]

you asked why I was using her

[heady peak]

with the new updated, vs 640k CP from before

[umbral belfry]

Assuming this is CA, CP doesn't really matter in terms of being able to cp-gap another team

but obvs having invested units helps

[unique wagon]

T1: Liter Trina Centi Scar Jack (quantum pls)
T2: Whatever that worked
T3: Blanc Emilia RH Siren Anis if Blanc doesn't pop/need Biscuit. If Blanc pops, do Biscuit Anis and pray to god you have enough damage cus Moran Noah + max SR doll is toxic af.

[swift mango]

Yeah, CP doesn't matter in ca

[heady peak]

aaaah ok. Then ya this is CA.

[unique wagon]

You can also do Emilia Blanc RH Siren Anis @gaunt viper

But indom might misdirect

If Emi dies and RH doesnt eat it

[gaunt viper]

yeah I worry about the misdirect

[unique wagon]

Tbh if you have fought the enemy at least once before you can tell how much damage they can deal in 3 RL

[heady peak]

So then it might be worth to actually resync Anis regular.. but I don't have gear for her

[unique wagon]

How am I supposed to tell from that pic

[heady peak]

or rather.. OL gear

[unique wagon]

I guess Scar died

[swift mango]

Synch level also doesn't matter in CA because everything synched to 400

[gaunt viper]

it wasn't enough then somehow

[heady peak]

ya I know sync level doesn't matter... but i meant since CP doesn't matter as much

[umbral belfry]

Non-OL on her is fine imo. She'll help a lot with burst gen for at least one of your 5 teams

[crystal flicker]

Anyone running Siren on CA?

[unique wagon]

Emilia Blanc RH Siren Anis it is. Or Blanc Emi Siren Biscuit 3 RL.

[crystal flicker]

I can't seem to find a good place for her

[swift mango]

Anyone not?

[gaunt viper]

but yeah that's all the info I have on it tbh, i figured it would be hard to make too much of it

[unique wagon]

Its more important to stun Moran and prevent her from bursting than using RH B1

[swift mango]

You removed RH and still can't push siren in?

[heady peak]

currently I'm not, because I don't know where I can run her

[crystal flicker]

It's 3.5RL vs 3RL tho

[heady peak]

I want too..... lol

[gaunt viper]

makes sense

[glad glade]

A bit late, but the gates of hell has opened. Good luck to everyone competing in CA

[crystal flicker]

I'mma run 3.5 then

[umbral belfry]

Last CA i ran her in a 3 RL SG team. granted i'm in the weakest NA bracket didn't do horribly

[unique wagon]

Cope unit

[umbral belfry]

if anything it was bad matchups, but overall had more wins than losses

would've rather used rosa for that specific team tho, but too weak

[swift mango]

[unique wagon]

Against 2 RL usually will stun B2. Against 3 RL will stun B1 as well.

[swift mango]

[crystal flicker]

Around 2.5 then

[lost ether]

my teams for CA

[unique wagon]

Oh ye forgot to mention quantum

Oh wait a minute

The website lied

[final wedge]

good luck 🙂

[unique wagon]

WE HAVE BEEN LIED TO

[gaunt viper]

I'm full on Quantums tho. it's on Trina, Jackal, Centi, and Rumani rn

[swift mango]

By Kinesix

[umbral crown]

thats when i finally add her you remove her

[unique wagon]

THATS NOT 3 RL

[gaunt viper]

[swift mango]

You will remove her after this and I would readd her.

[unique wagon]

THE CALCULATOR IS UNTRUSTWORTHY

[umbral crown]

maybe its a sigm

[unique wagon]

Ok nvm I watched. U just got CS diffed.

[umbral crown]

we win win

[gaunt viper]

who should I take Quantum from you think? 🤔

[unique wagon]

Enemy is not 3 RL

I think they are 2.5 RL because of CS

You have been CS diffed. Quantum does nothing.

Your Anis no CS

[gaunt viper]

I see that now

[swift mango]

That's when I lose.

[gaunt viper]

correct, my Anis isn't even OL

[crystal flicker]

Assume full charge is 100%
13% CS = -13% + 100% = 87%
2x shots = 174%
174% + 87% = 261% = 3x shots

So 13% CS on HelmT roughly makes her 3rd shots proc at 2.61RL

[unique wagon]

Your comp should win at equal speed tbh

[gaunt viper]

if I OL Anis, how much CS would I need you think?

[unique wagon]

Hmm

Oh Moran is linked well

[heady peak]

@swift mango @umbral belfry This is my current set up now. Is there something you would move around, or feel that would be better? Also I'm NA bracket if that makes any difference... and my last winning brackets team was this (mine on left, their's on the right)

[umbral belfry]

Your T1 isn't gonna last 😭

[gaunt viper]

[unique wagon]

Nah they got Moran linked by Jackal

[swift mango]

Kick maid mast out for another SG

[umbral belfry]

I don't have SAnis/Emi so i'm not 100% sure on this, but using them both in a single team seems like a waste no?

[gaunt viper]

well it is what it is I suppose, a win is a win at least

[unique wagon]

You might win without Siren actually

Siren kinda fed a lot there

[heady peak]

My emi doesn't have great lines, and I don't have a good enough team to use her in as a star.

[umbral belfry]

Pos1 Bay on a 3.5RL team also seems very risky. Alongside siren at pos5. if you face a def SG team it's wraps

[crystal flicker]

If I assume 17% CS
17% = -17% + 100% = 83%
83 x 2 shots = 166%
166 + 83 = 249% = 3 shots
HelmT burst gen = 19.91%
19.91% x 3 = 59.73%

[gaunt viper]

I was wondering there tbh but wasn't sure if it was a better move

[unique wagon]

If u use anything thaat doesn't feed ure good to go

[heady peak]

ok, would.... drake with treasure work?

[unique wagon]

Must be 3 RL tho

[swift mango]

Work

[heady peak]

could I also use rapunzel?

[gaunt viper]

I'd prob just use my Xmaiden maybe 🤔

[umbral belfry]

I've seen people use a blanc sbs-emi team with decent success, could try that maybe?

[gaunt viper]

or Rapu

[heady peak]

No I can't use Rapunzel.. not 3 RL

[swift mango]

Use it in another team... Move Pepper to p1 in SG team

[umbral belfry]

indom scar is fine too though

[unique wagon]

That team is good.

[umbral belfry]

So I've heard

[crystal flicker]

It's good, ut it's hard

[umbral belfry]

but i will never realize it personally

[unique wagon]

Until some 2 RL nuke kills them

[heady peak]

Wouldn't that ruin the point of me running Rosanna? I legit don't know, I'm just asking. Cause I want mast maid to die for the burst no?

[swift mango]

PEPPER TO DIE

You could use viper instead

[gaunt viper]

between a Rapu or Xmaiden what might be better there for Siren 🤔

[heady peak]

OOH I JUST REALIZE HAHA She would have taken Rosanna burst HAHA

[unique wagon]

Same thing

[heady peak]

no wait.. she wouldn't she was in position 4

[heady peak]

ya it works, but I know my Emi is shit atm... I need to build her much better so I can dedicate a team to her... sadly

[umbral belfry]

how is your rosa investment first of all? that'll matter nonetheless

[swift mango]

Drake T is harder to die than unbuilt Pepper or Viper or Product 23

[gaunt viper]

I figured they'd be the same just didn't know if one would be more beneficial or it really doesn't matter other than keeping 3RL

and no feed

[umbral crown]

i need to get the frame this time

imma repeat that till i get it

[heady peak]

has a few attack lines on her too

[umbral belfry]

Should be decent enough

Still time to get the boots to OL hopefully given you have a 1 day+ until CA

[umbral crown]

still low cp uwu

[gaunt viper]

at least yours is OL, mine is 0 OL and 4/1/3

[heady peak]

Should I remove pepper, put in drake on line 4, and put viper on line so she can die for Rosanna passive to go off?

[gaunt viper]

I'll just use Rapu tbh, she's got 20% CS rn

[raven plover]

[crystal flicker]

P23 Mentioned

[unique wagon]

....

You need 2 sacs for that team to work

[crystal flicker]

Neon isn't sacc, I just lack burst gen last CA

[unique wagon]

That team sucks then

[crystal flicker]

It's almost win against 2RL Scarlet

[unique wagon]

Soda scar?

[crystal flicker]

Rapunzel

Rosa 1 tap

[unique wagon]

2 RL?

Interesting

[crystal flicker]

Neon died so burst gen goes to the moon

[unique wagon]

That team only wins against scar tho

[swift mango]

Yes

[swift mango]

Gl with this

[unique wagon]

SG Rosa is the most common P5

And that will win against urxs

[heady peak]

okay, question... cause maybe I'm misunderstanding. I know some one has to die...so what is my sacrifice here?

[unique wagon]

Viper who

[heady peak]

cause this is what I did now. My viper is not built, no OL. She is supposed to die though right?

she just comes in... buffs up team

and dies, pops off Rosa

[swift mango]

P1

[heady peak]

okay so Viper is dying. Sorry if I sound like a legit idiot.. but I might be

[crystal flicker]

Treasured?

So I dont need to unlock Phase 3 Viper if I don't want her to become reenter?

[heady peak]

mine is not treasured

[swift mango]

Merry competitor

[gaunt viper]

I was told CS was good on her so I did just that

[heady peak]

or do I keep noir in slot 5

my noir is better built and more invested

[unique wagon]

Hard to 2 RL with this tbh

Naga and PrivM is slow

This is 2.5 RL at most

[heady peak]

so put back in pepper?

[unique wagon]

And is countered by most proper 2 RL teams

[heady peak]

or would I need to run sugar/bunny soda

[unique wagon]

I would say so instead of Naga but Viper must be P2

[heady peak]

now i'm just confused... I thought I needed viper to die. I've read up on this comp... and it's supposed to have a sacrifice

so that the burst gauge goes up with rosanna

and blood said viper in first slot.. unless I read wrong. So excuse me if I'm irritating people here with this. I just really am lost at this point.

but i'm clutching at straws for my last 2 teams.. my team 2 is just sort of what I had left... and team 1 is just using what I have with Rosanna.

i've read the guides way to much.. to now I'm not even sure get it

[swift mango]

Remove maid Privaty and add drake

[gaunt viper]

I found it btw, I'm lacking in 3 favorite units and an Xanne

[raven plover]

[unique wagon]

Viper does die to Scarlet faster

But Naga doesnt have burst gen

[coarse lake]

with rosa s2 lvl 10 and a sac, a naga team is still 2rl

main question is, is whether a raw 3rl no-sac sg rosa team can even pick up wins where a raw 3.5rl one cannot

[crystal flicker]

NO

[coarse lake]

like... you gotta be sniping a 3rl emi or helmt dps for it to matter I feel like

[crystal flicker]

Product 23 is purrfect for sacc
She has smooth voices
She give you burst gen
She die fast

[unique wagon]

No, if you die faster

Units who die do not contribute to burst gen

You need to compensate it

[heady peak]

Like I just need my sac to attack 2 times then die no?

[coarse lake]

that's still same effective speed

[unique wagon]

Its not

[coarse lake]

actually yeah the viper would would be 2.5rl sure

that's still assuming bsoda dies instantly

if bsoda lives for 1rl, that's +9 gen

[crystal flicker]

Yes

[torn osprey]

I dont understand why the enemy is so strong

[unique wagon]

Tbh ur biggest enemy is enemy Rosa and also Makima flex

[coarse lake]

the problem with the viper variant is enemy rosa imo

[crystal flicker]

Gear, dolls, skills

[coarse lake]

bsoda/draket/viper/rosa/noir, bsoda dies, rosa snipe kills draket with chip and viper with ele, your rosa loses b2

[unique wagon]

Just bring XAnne/Makima

[heady peak]

if I had xanne kek

[coarse lake]

xanne means less dmg, but yes that's another way around

[heady peak]

I guess that's also why I put that team first

[coarse lake]

bsoda/naga/draket/viper/rosa/noir, bsoda dies, rosa snipe chips draket and rosa, no kills from it, you get full burst chain (draket nuke)

[unique wagon]

Yes

[heady peak]

is in the hopes I'm going against a scarlet team

which... last bracket I saw a lot of people using her in that slot 1 or 2

and i'm in easy NA bracket

[unique wagon]

Tf u mean Rosa snipe Rosa

Rosa has conceal no?

Unless u hit her first...

[coarse lake]

oh does that block rosa snipe? then it hits noir, same result anyway

[unique wagon]

Idk, no one tested

[coarse lake]

both my sg team losses vs mirror and slow scar I would have won if I had a non-attacker b2, I did not win a single team where I did not get any sac anyway (rosa snipe can't kill anything that isn't water)

[heady peak]

but the real question... am I too low in CP now?

[coarse lake]

so I'm thinking the xanne or naga variant is better (xanne if confident in your sg dmg, I'm not)

[heady peak]

ik that technically cp don't matter.. but

[coarse lake]

or do the poli variant that keripo does, basically same idea as naga but more expensive

[swift mango]

My Emi is less bricked now...

[heady peak]

grats

[heady peak]

did you finish lvling up her skill one?

[swift mango]

101010 in the pic

[heady peak]

ya I saw 10/10/10 but which was the last skill you got to 10

i'm not sure if I want to bother with her skill 1 to 10

[unique wagon]

Soda Scar vs SG who wins

[heady peak]

cause I have too many units still to upgrade, and I feel my Emi is going to take too much time to invest properly to use as an actual burster.

i'm just using her as a battery

[coarse lake]

depends if their rosa is beefier than their sgs or not and if you pass the stun check

[heady peak]

The guy who literally won my bracket 2 times... was running these

i'm guessing his team 2 he didn't care about

[unique wagon]

Wait

[coarse lake]

in my sg loss to scar, if I had a b2 that lived long enough to burst, I would have won

not sure why you wouldn't use draket on sg team

if the fight does ever go into full burst, you got a massive edge with her buffs

[unique wagon]

Need Drake bonk in 2nd team if enemy uses Rosa

[unique wagon]

3 SGs are already enough pressure. Need SG in every team to misdirect enemy indom.

I had Noir on team 4

Nah

@coarse lake SG in every team check well except T1

Gonna love seeing misindoms

[graceful grotto]

T3 no more immune to siren

[unique wagon]

Ye but

That team loses anyways if Moran doesn't get to burst

[graceful grotto]

i placed something like this hahaha, not the best but i'll give it a shot

[unique wagon]

Hmmm cool but 3 RL Sanis no good

[unique wagon]

Good enough tbf just need CS

[graceful grotto]

yeah i lack CS substats

[unique wagon]

All those teams can reach 2.5 RL with CS

[unique wagon]

I still dont think Siren in first team is a good idea

Id rather use Siren with Scarlet

Problem is if u stun enemy Noah in 1st comp and its solo Noah

Ure helping them survive Emilia

[graceful grotto]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1162985219830329374.webp?size=128&animated=true

true that

maybe swap siren and red hood

[unique wagon]

Id rather use Siren in team 2 and put her in P1/P2 and hopefully she can stun Noah

Soda and Siren are not too far different

[spiral onyx]

Teams set up, video recorded and scheduled
https://youtu.be/FaVUCw0BB5s

[unique wagon]

Just check whoever is linked tho

[unique wagon]

The battle hasnt even started how tf u alr made a vid

[spiral onyx]

Its a video of my teams and detailed look at each unit's setup

Cause you know how people always be asking "what are your gears/OL lines/cubes/etc"

[unique wagon]

O

[spiral onyx]

and then I show them and they realize they can't copy it

[graceful grotto]

for mine def scar and siren

[unique wagon]

XMaiden in Noise team seems interesting and actually probably better than I thought it would be

[unique wagon]

Ok heres the problem. You dont want Scar in P1 cus Siren might stun her. At the same time, Scar is also immune in the first 1s, so its safer to put Scar in P1/P5 in case of against SGs.

Either way both are bad

[graceful grotto]

rng luck in the end

[unique wagon]

Id still put Siren P1 tho

[graceful grotto]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1162985219830329374.webp?size=128&animated=true

oh that's a swell idea

wonder will she survive hahaha

[onyx scaffold]

i dont have bay

[unique wagon]

Interesting

[onyx scaffold]

indeed

101010 mlb bay is cheaper than getting 17% on 3 units

[unique wagon]

U need Bay

Its like for CA u cant not bring her

[onyx scaffold]

keripo didn't use bay

[fiery parcel]

Maybe brick route like mine?

[graceful grotto]

skill wise for bay do you need anything outside of 4 4 4?

[fiery parcel]

[unique wagon]

He has invested everything

I think he uses 3 2 RL teams

[onyx scaffold]

idk if i have enough gear exp to overload bay tbh.

[unique wagon]

We need more B2 HP padders

[onyx scaffold]

is this your recommendation? i can give it a try this CA. no 17% noah tho

why is noah not bursting

[graceful grotto]

he's using noah mainly to bait siren users and SG

[onyx scaffold]

20%

[spiral onyx]

2RL / 2RL / 2RL / 2RL-sacc / 2.5RL
Took me hella long to cook this though

[swift mango]

Congrats, I'm only 2.06m at. 393

[onyx scaffold]

wtf i have one single tetra DEF arm

[graceful grotto]

[swift mango]

You don't need bay if you don't even use Blanc.

[onyx scaffold]

yeah i will not touch kisenix's cook on this CA

[onyx scaffold]

where laplace

[graceful grotto]

no laplace built

im thinking whether to put blanc in p5 and bay + noah in p2 instead

[spiral onyx]

I recently rerolled my Laplace from 4x ATK + 2 ele to 4x charge speed just for CA. Feels bad

[unique wagon]

I can see this being possible

[spiral onyx]

Gimme a new Rumani or Centi plz, kthxbai

[unique wagon]

Raid bricked

[spiral onyx]

Always has been with my lvl 9 Bastian and Resilience

[unique wagon]

[spiral onyx]

Guildies: "Union raid rewards are finally out! Keripo, you finally leveling your Resilience cube?"
Me:

[crystal flicker]

For a moment I thought that's defense cube

[spiral onyx]

Defence cube honestly isn't too bad for CA as temps

36.35% def at lvl 5

That's like 4k less damage per hit

Nvm, that's still garbage when your units have ~3 mil HP unbuffed lol

[scenic linden]

Hello ! Would any one be available to help me set up 3 Arena teams please ? :D

[tulip holly]

Im seeing mermaid is being used in defense a lot now , where do I use her on my teams ?

[tropic summit]

you want mermaid in defense teams that you expect are getting countered by noah or indom, as siren works against B2 and B3 the best, especially p1 B3, p1 B2, or taunt priority noah

e.g in your case that'd be mostly scarlet team

[tropic summit]

post your box

[grand plaza]

Can Siren stun 2RL b2?

[tropic summit]

time to give her love

[tropic summit]

this is her stun showcase, watch what happens to noah (noah getting stunned is on 2RL)

[swift mango]

My girl Red Shoe got ditched entirely it seems. Maybe the dev don't want to bring her back anymore.

[tropic summit]

if you read the story you should know how much they ended up hating her

||if you were betrayed like they did, you'll hate her too||

[swift mango]

She doesn't even mention Red Shoe at all though. Rather than hate.

[tropic summit]

hate is exactly that, you DO not speak or mention them ever

[snow kraken]

Could I get a second opinion please? Trying to cook some teams for this CA, I am Emilia-less. The 2nd cook should be better I think?

[swift mango]

Hate =/= ignore.

Hate is opposite of love

You hate because you care

[grand plaza]

Hmm didn't know that

[tropic summit]

real hate is something else, if you hate someone but you still talk about/to them, then it's not hate, because as you said they still care enough

[crystal flicker]

Unless they're buffing the Defense stat for at least 3 times the current stat, I don't see defense become Meta

[swift mango]

Even if you don't talk about them you still think about them that's why you hate them. This is on the level that she doesn't exist so no point to hate her, totally different from hate.

Dev wanted to erase red shoe from the story

Simple at that

[tropic summit]

i don't think so, but then again it's subjective as it's not stated

could be any reason really

[crystal flicker]

Raw comparison at lv 400 shows Lv 7 defense cube + chara stat reduce the dmg roughly ~26%

This will be smaller if the character get tons of ATK Buff as they just multiply the atk stat before reduction from defense

And this just the base dmg, not account for another multiplier like OL lines, FB buff, etc

[tropic summit]

T1: move soda to p2 (she can be taunted by noah to stun), scarlet to p1, trina p3, anis p4, jackal p5. Maximize scarlet s2
T2: seems fine
T3: seems fine
T4: you're expecting SBS to die... but if she's well invested and high doll she may not die pre 3RL
T5: slow SG team without snowball (as you using rosanna in T4)

overall, i'd say revise T4 and T5

[scenic linden]

@tropic summit Here you go ! Not sure if there is any better format to do this haha

[tropic summit]

format looks fine

[swift mango]

~~Well, if them all become heretic they would be friends forever, and no one gonna be betrayed. ~~

[tropic summit]

looks like you took a break, as you've nier collab units but only synchro lvl 356, your PvP chances are limited... either way you can run

sbs helmt blanc centi jackal
noah biscuit cind noir noise
auto

cubes

quantum on jackal, centi
vigor on blanc, noise, biscuit
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

throw trina in synchro and get her to 4/7/7 to be usable by scarlet or 4/4/7 to be used with cindy
raise CP of the nikke in screenshot attached (with red line)

can form a 3rd team once scarlet and trina are ready (scarlet 10/4/10, 4OL, SR5-SR15, 20-30atk%, trina 4/7/7 or 4/4/7, 4OL, R15 or SR5)

[quick lake]

hi rail

[raven plover]

dont pair sanis with treasured drake

[tropic summit]

[scenic linden]

Thanks a lot for the advices :D and no I didn't take a break I have a MASSIVE amount of boxes but too lazy to use them ahahaha

[tropic summit]

what the heck you waiting for then

[quick lake]

Make Cindy team 2RL
Use 4SG + Rosanna

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor a hoarder worse than you

[raven plover]

10k core dust

[quick lake]

10k boxes

Could likely hit sync 450++ maybe

[snow kraken]

Oh right, I glossed over her ammo gain for shotguns Thanks

[scenic linden]

That wouldbe a massive upgrade ahaha but gotta motivate myself to clear the chapters first ...

[tropic summit]

heretics would try to eat each others, doesn't seem a good prospect

[quick lake]

[swift mango]

~~my boy Chatterbox practices no cannibalism ~~

[umbral belfry]

yoink

[umbral belfry]

[chilly furnace]

@raven plover where your team?

[crystal flicker]

Raw Rosa Nuke with 1 Sacc against Raw Noah's def is 1,859,180.446
against Noah with lv7 defense cubes is 1,700,097.785
against Noah with lv7 tempering cubes is 1,675,830.621

[onyx scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/battle-finally-worthy-legendary-gif-21456320

[crystal flicker]

Not that much difference

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[quick lake]

Defence up more effective on defender nikkes ig. Tempering more universal

[crystal flicker]

Tempering > Defense whether it for Defender or not

[crystal flicker]

But with 2,236,000 HP (Lv 400)
That still left ~25% HP

Neutral, no crit, no other buff beside Rosa 1 sacc

[lost ether]

wat r yall thoughts on this?

[onyx scaffold]

maybe i should use pepper

[coarse lake]

very impressive, each team has something that irks me

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[lost ether]

she is a clip shotgun, pretty gud meta

[onyx scaffold]

nah. he doesn't have 17% cs on anis yet. brick

[lost ether]

[coarse lake]

2 sg on a sg team, that's no longer a sg team
single buff 2.5rl scar, that's weak
you better pray pepper dies or else that comp is toast
wasted trina
rumani biscuit is not a real comp, non-viable

[onyx scaffold]

scarlet needs buffs to swipe sync 400?

[lost ether]

i believe in the healing and power of friendship

[crystal flicker]

Ok actually it's 1237094.911
And still left ~44.67% HP on neutral

[coarse lake]

double buff (trina) scar is on the brink of killing wdym

xanne won't do anything, you either crit or you're not killing anyone from full

[quick lake]

Yes

[onyx scaffold]

idk what to do anymore

[quick lake]

Only Scar Trina

[crystal flicker]

Viper's buff counted in PvP right?

[covert lintel]

"when the target appear" no
the rest yes

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[shell hazel]

oh my first 100k unit and it's the pvp queen

[crystal flicker]

Fr?

[quick lake]

ye should be i think

[final wedge]

T1 = why bursting using Drake? n 2 SG wont get enuf DPS to kill 1 char in 1 shot 100%....minimum is 3 SG to ensure ded when ur attacking backline in defending

T2 = no comment

T3 = ur pushing 2.5RL Blanc Emi...do note that in mirror match, ull lose against 3RL Blanc team as well since ur indom will be gone faster, best stick to 3 RL imo for Blanc indom team

T4 = its okay....i had it on my 1st Season CA....but do note that it will may lose to 2.5RL dat has Noise Noah as well since 2RL Cindy burst is not instant, to me it is a waste to push it into 2RL after experiencing such a flaw

T5 =no comment, shud be good enuf

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[crystal flicker]

I thought she got Siren's treatment lol

Well that just ass

[tropic summit]

indeed

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[crystal flicker]

That makes my Rosa only deal ~80% HP against RH

What about Noir 70% HP Atk buff?

[quick lake]

Isnt Noir 14% atk passive buff

[crystal flicker]

She is

[onyx scaffold]

Nobody uses RH in CA

[crystal flicker]

Just when I thought my Rosa is cooking
I realized she's not SR15 yet

[unique wagon]

Pretty good.

[unique wagon]

Ngl those teams are good.

Im not joking

[glacial lion]

another old competitor in my barrack quit nikke

[dire root]

I actually got worried for a second, Siren's stun interrupted RHs burst.

[tulip holly]

so it's a plain swap for rh or something else has to change ??

[quick lake]

Shouldnt put RH in P1, should only burst her B1 and B3

[dire root]

I really didn't want to let go of RHs B1 or the link

that is why she is in P1

[raven plover]

search my media in #questions

[unique wagon]

This is very bold

[vapid lake]

That just mean shiftup will replace him with a whale next season reshuffle after this season

[dire root]

I mean it wins as long as there is no Blanc or biscuit.

[covert lintel]

and noir
sanis an anomaly sg, only a few sg work with her

[unique wagon]

U shud still win against Blanc, u just use lose against immune/nuke/wipe

[dire root]

I guess it may also just beat Blanc in burst gen

unless they are fast

[unique wagon]

How to kill someone that keeps lifestealing

Correct XAnne is the answer jk

[lost ether]

yeah, without x anne, my scarlet team cant kill moran, neko, t helm, rapunzel comp

[dire root]

A wall of Cindy lol

[unique wagon]

You can't win even with Blanc/Trina?

[lost ether]

for sp arena i cant

[unique wagon]

Interesting

That's something new

[lost ether]

[unique wagon]

Maybe just use both

Dies to Rosanna tho

[lost ether]

i changed slightly

[swift mango]

Are you sure about that?

Rossana loading shotgun with malicious intends

[shell hazel]

I threw my CA teams but I have my concerns on my cindy comp 😄

uninvested maiden / anis, noise is on r-15 doll awaiting SR one to add but not sure if she can tank too long, rouge has a bit more invest but not loads (4/4/4 skills at least)

[chilly furnace]

So u basically never change team for 2 season?

[shell hazel]

what is with the person that keeps pinging you? 😮

[chilly furnace]

Who?

[shell hazel]

some person keeps pinging you endlessly

[hoary hill]

wtf

[chilly furnace]

Damn.. i didnt notice..

[hoary hill]

thats insane two hours ago he did it again that some dedicatiom wtf

[shell hazel]

dunno what you did to earn the stalker

[chilly furnace]

Lol yea idk..

Also the ping was never pop up on my screen maybe hes on my blocklist alr.. lemme check quick

Ah yes kek

[shell hazel]

probably is

[hoary hill]

yea its funny too that while normal chat goes and then with some minutes inbetween lol

[chilly furnace]

Yea it is

[chilly furnace]

A freak fans maybe.. i honestly dont remember

Anyway.. offtopic lol. Back to @raven plover

[raven plover]

yea gonna change it this season wanna try something

[swift mango]

High guys, what do you think about this team.

Can it wins?

No answer? Okay mmh bye

[tropic summit]

now that's a weird question coming from Blood

the way i see it, it's better to look at what it can deal with:

-loses to 2RL noah
-loses to 2RL general indom
-loses to 2RL indom scarlet
-may lose to SG team (especially if attacking)

-wins against 2RL glass cannon scarlet
-wins against 3RL
-wins against any slower team

[raven plover]

if someone with this made it to final, and this team actually won once, ofkors your team can do it ser

[tropic summit]

looks like a filling 5th team

[swift mango]

[covert lintel]

in CA noah will die immediately before burst because ppl often separate noah from biscuit

[tropic summit]

still has decent SG pressure if anything

[tropic summit]

SG is dependant on side, may or may not kill noah p1 just as may or may not kill noah p5

hard to say it's consistently winning or losing

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

go ahead cat-person

[covert lintel]

alice became meta again?

[tropic summit]

we've someone here who won with 3RL noah alice team (champion)

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

works as a single target B3, decent on stalling oriented teams if you get multiple cycles

T1 why tia p1
T2 decent
T3 remove that moran
T4 sg weak (gamble), else decent
T5 decent

laplace without treasure gonna suck balls anyway

xmaiden instead of moran would be a good addon

fix those teams with what i told you above then check-in again

[umbral crown]

Oh, then im doing fine

[umbral crown]

Indeed

[tropic summit]

move an SG in there instead and free xmaiden to add non feed on scarlet team

too many SG and your scarlet team loses mirror easily

the logic is correct, based on what he has

scarlet archetype (may or may not involve jackal, needs revive in case)
noah archetype (may or may not involve biscuit)
indom archetype (may or may not involve biscuit OR jackal, needs biscuit locked team or p1 and p5 linked teams)
sg archetype (ideally with rosanna for snowball, else 2.5RL for pressure)
general purpose 3RL (s.anis + biscuit or stall team is fine)

you still need to fix tia in p1 in T1 sir

you've a flex B2 on clip SG burst gen just sitting there

there's also a decent B1 filler in case with somewat ok burst gen and 2 clip SG fillers

she's not SG, she's SMG but has higher burst gen than usual ones

you can think of her as on non clip RL burst gen tier

she has mid tier atk% buff

think of her as a budget liter but with barely acceptable burst gen

the fact she's a B1 buffer can be used for some teams

[quick lake]

mid buffer, okay gen, feeds. Kinda meh

[tropic summit]

she's s2 skill level dependant, might aswell throw viper in there instead

the dude likely doesn't have resources

[quick lake]

u have that many 17% cs units?

[tropic summit]

[quick lake]

[tropic summit]

indeed, that's weird

then again if he states so...

[quick lake]

That’s easy top 16 every time

[covert lintel]

i'm gonna win the last place of CA rank

[quick lake]

With his units, can just ask him copy any top 8 teams

[tropic summit]

if pepper is on R15 or SR5 doll 4OL
-viper pepper anis cind helm

if neither pepper or viper are on SR5 doll 4OL
-viper cind pepper anis helmt

if playing risky but want to avoid giving enemy 1.25x burst gen
-viper pepper cind anis helmt

[quick lake]

why invest 17% cs if u cannot build ur own teams

[covert lintel]

cause rail will help you

[tropic summit]

is that really reason enough tho

[quick lake]

8 rocks per character to get 17%?

[tropic summit]

dude won lottery, twice

blindfold

while sleeping

[quick lake]

Im pretty sure I spent like 100+++ rocks. 150 for cs% lines alone

Rosanna took 50 rocks to get 4x atk

Good for him i guess

[tropic summit]

either way cat-person, either your friend is lottery material, or that's a load of

[covert lintel]

rosanna need 4x crit instead of 4x atk

[tropic summit]

if he doesn't actually have that CS%, he's just gonna screw himself with calculations all wrong

[vapid lake]

how long do i have to wait before i can pass this

[quick lake]

Not impossible ig

[tropic summit]

see you in 4 months cowboy

[vapid lake]

i need more rocks my cindy has no ele

[tropic summit]

speaking of which i'll soon join your waiting queue

retro beat that iirc on synch 394

[vapid lake]

this is not it man

[covert lintel]

which boss?

[tropic summit]

find someone else then to fix that tia p1

[vapid lake]

i am nowhere near close to winning LMAO

i can live to the end but no damage

[tropic summit]

think retro suggested running s.anis aswell

[vapid lake]

running sanis drops my cp by 30k LMAO

the diff between her and my ein is 30k cp

[quick lake]

Need a lot of ele on cindy

[vapid lake]

i pampered ein because she is best girl

she deserves it all

[tropic summit]

got a thing for schoolgirls?

[vapid lake]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-gif-18348698948575815487

highest cp unit on my account, best daughter

[tropic summit]

wowie

[swift mango]

I'm tired and want opinions. Rank these teams from best to worst.

[covert lintel]

ah that
you shouldn't use cindy there, use high atk to destroy part quickly such as scar sanis

[tropic summit]

with bay or with helm, stall teams

or with s.anis

[swift mango]

[vapid lake]

all lowest clear use cindy sanis

cindy just kills the boss main body don't care about parts

[covert lintel]

someone clear like this
this boss gimmick isn't about who is the highest dps, but how fast can you destroy part

[vapid lake]

he passed it before cindy was released

and this guy is famous for sandbagging to get lowest clear by being overleveled

he probably like lv 441 -461 or something

[snow kraken]

Think I'm gonna settle on this and see how it goes

Surely Midhara sacc can get atleast 1 win

[vapid lake]

damn this guy believes in midhara sac

[quick lake]

I thought about Mihara sac. But I rather use another SG

[vapid lake]

i can't make it work, so i gave up

[quick lake]

I still wondering if I should add milk this CA

[vapid lake]

i just run these and pray for good matchup rng

[tropic summit]

you really ignored what we said about soda p1 eh

[snow kraken]

Ah I'm used to looking out for Siren stun in SP Arena, does she not stun p1 2rl in CA?

[tropic summit]

ah i see the logic, you trading scarlet s2 for the chance to avoid 2RL stun on p1

reasonable enough

[unique mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvischeeks-gif-11479835501113597450

[chilly furnace]

Lets goo..

Dont forgor tell me when its done lol

[hollow lagoon]

Time for camp arena yay another day of screwing around

[atomic wolf]

@tropic summit jesse.

[atomic wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1122534701131890771.webp?size=48&name=uncanny

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-hogan-nodding-nod-yes-yup-gif-13973219

[snow kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[atomic wolf]

WHERE IS THAT BURST GEN CALCLUATOR

[hollow lagoon]

Who would thought some one else play sucide team and put it in p1

[shell hazel]

I thought about mihara sac as well haha, not sure it really works though

[atomic wolf]

heloo what does this mean (i was born yesterday)

does this mean it has 3rl speed

[hollow lagoon]

I pinged you to try testing this shit for me but u were dead so im just gonnna roll it

I mean what’s the worst case for me kek

I just won’t win that’s all

[shell hazel]

oh sorry, I was prob asleep 😛

how can I test it any better than you though ? 😄

[atomic wolf]

ok so

3rl is le slow, 2.5 rl is le fast?

god i love it when 90% of pvp arena has me blocked or ignored

[hollow lagoon]

U have people similar to your cp range I don’t

[shell hazel]

oh yeah maybe so! what comp do you want me to test? I probably can't do it properly until 2-3 hours before upcoming reset

at work atm

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[raven plover]

Im using him this CA

[shell hazel]

I can try that, any comps you want to run it against? my rookie arena is a bit random on what they have set

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[hollow lagoon]

Only need to know 2 things, mihara dies fast enough to get 3rl off and that indom sticks on sbs

[shell hazel]

my rosanna is only semi-invested

i'll try it and let you know

[hollow lagoon]

Mine’s 454 can’t be that bad

Or 4/6/4

[shell hazel]

sure gimme like 5-6 hours ish 🙂

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[hollow lagoon]

I derped out and yeeted ol on mihara with a purple doll tho

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[shell hazel]

my mihara is 7/7/7 with 1 OL so not amazing, I've run her in p1 a few time and she does die before 3RL usually

SR-5

might stall enough for SBS not to die before blanc indom

[hollow lagoon]

Similar enough Eah

[shell hazel]

especially if SBS is SR-5+

wonder what native speed that is + what speed the sac gives

[atomic wolf]

what is the 17% thingy on deck

right

my bad everyone here has me ignored or blocked

so I CAN'T ASK ANYTHING AT ALL

[quick lake]

total cs% OL lines

[swift mango]

Use lv1 nikke

[hollow lagoon]

Level sync

[swift mango]

Use 4 nikke teams. Use Anis instead of Centi. You have tons of options.

[hollow lagoon]

Mmm why anis?

Slightly higher burst gen?

[shell hazel]

low invest/cp presumably

[swift mango]

Because your Anis is likely no OL gear no doll and half to 1/3 CP of centi?

[hollow lagoon]

Tru I’ll adjust after he trys

But chance of anis getting targeted early on is not high no?

Tho I kinda lean toward my weak noise

[swift mango]

Stoopid, use your old teams, don't copy Keripo.

You are about to lose your 3 champ treat

[hollow lagoon]

My teams gonna be another mostly home brew

[swift mango]

[hollow lagoon]

Question is do I prefer sbs or Laplace being the survivor in the indom

If Laplace rips I might not make it to 3rl if sbs rips I prob end with Laplace in indom

Is Laplace lazer worth the indom

Ferk it I’ll go with lazer it’s funnier

[raven plover]

all good

[vapid lake]

hoboman just giving the other mortals a chance to win

[hollow lagoon]

I wanna win too

The 2 win frame is slightly prettier

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/my-life-is-fulfilled-theo-campbell-the-challenge-world-championship-i'm-satisfied-with-my-life-my-dreams-have-been-realized-gif-4584284206814969126

[shell hazel]

nah you already won, I gotta win

it's the only way

although can't win without rumani 😛

[hollow lagoon]

I’ll dm you my team then

[shell hazel]

I'm just gonna RNG my teams

order and such

[hollow lagoon]

My teams are in exact order dw

U gotta accept that friend request tho

[chilly furnace]

How good viper tr for pvp?

[chilly furnace]

Shouldnt do that before get the frame

[covert lintel]

just another clipSG with higher stat

[rich ledge]

any last min changes to could do?

[chilly furnace]

Good filler i guess.. f i want XAnne ..rerun when

[rich ledge]

its based on railtracer's recommendation

[covert lintel]

i think you should make cindy the same team with helmT
kinda wasted to separate them like that

[torn obsidian]

isn't teams locked in another 24 hours?

[tropic summit]

ye there's still plenty of time

[tropic summit]

he doesn't have noah, even with helmt he wouldn't hit 2RL threshold

[rich ledge]

siren doesnt have a place to be used?

s anis also not a good unit anymore?

[stuck pike]

Sanis is good. She's just countered by scarlet and potentially emilia.

[dim escarp]

@tropic summit hey boss, do see any way to improve? sadly I started after emi so it's hard to put 2 team in 2rl (wish I could for cinderella without losing much in my others team

moran team is also very weak to siren I guess

[dim escarp]

and for the scar team I have no idea if it's better or very risky to run this cuz of opponents siren

[ruby iris]

Any suggestions (champ arena)? I don't know what's supposed to be the optimal team order for champions arena

And I'm not using strong nikkes like RRH

[shell hazel]

order doesn't really matter as it's RNG

just send your best teams as opposed to worrying about the order too much

you can try and guess how people will position teams but it's just guessing

[ruby iris]

Yeah I don't know if the majority places their strong teams at the start or something

[shell hazel]

I don't think we'd know necessarily, people can also change how they position each season

[tropic summit]

and what about T5

[ruby iris]

Do you think I should use RRH just for CP somewhere?

[shell hazel]

CP doesn't work either

[ruby iris]

Ah makes sense then lol

[shell hazel]

you can't CP gap people here there is no deficit, gotta run in terms of team synergy not CP necessarily now

[tropic summit]

B1 in p1 is safe, as stun happens on 2RL which affects B2 and B3

[shell hazel]

Railtracer should I run this cindy comp or should I weaken my Noah team to merge them to get a better one? I feel like this team may just be doomed.... 😛
#pvp-arena message

[ruby iris]

Okok thx, do you think my teams are optimized? (Yeah the one with Drake is a bit of a reach)

[dim escarp]

ohh I see

[rich ledge]

if i replace pepper with siren is it better? Its still 3RL and my siren is fully trained

[shell hazel]

throw all of the comps into the deck builder site, check the speeds, units like crown are slow

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

anything less than 3RL is probably too slow unless you're forced to run it

[dim escarp]

also I'll start to invest rosana and bay very soon, what's the good invest to focus for both ?

[ruby iris]

With S10 it means helm's skill1 level?

[rich ledge]

If I were to overload drake, drake's attack may become higher than ein, do I need to change this setup?

[rich ledge]

yes

[ruby iris]

Oh okay she's 10/10/7

[tropic summit]

yes this comp assumes ein rh and jackal are linked, if drake becomes higher atk% than ein, ein loses link

[ruby iris]

Should I select that? (It says 17% )

[rich ledge]

so do I make drake P1 then? or we need to shuffle all the teams?

I can overload a helmet now Im wondering if I should do it. Or theres other more impactful units I can overload

[tropic summit]

you don't want a B3 like drake tbh, you want to burst with an AoE nuke like ein

[ruby iris]

Idk if I should change someone and add Ein, RRH or someone else tbh

[rich ledge]

see if you can replace units and push those above 3RL to 3RL first i guess

[ruby iris]

What are the bottom right plus signs? Skill levels?

[ruby iris]

Okok thx

[rich ledge]

charge speed overload

theres bottom left is there bottom right?

[ruby iris]

Yeah I meant left sorry lol

[tropic summit]

it's copium but as long as it hits 3RL, that's the usual 3RL cindy wipe

[dim escarp]

So I guess I stay with this? it's correct ?

[shell hazel]

I'll post the general strength and my un-used roster later, just wondered if I could slot other sort of invested units in like rapu

[tropic summit]

T1 ok
T2 ok
T3 ok
T4 average
T5 bad, slow and further slow by tia p1

[shell hazel]

but if this is the best I got I can just randomise it and send it

[dim escarp]

tia is here just to counter siren haha, but I can change

[shell hazel]

tia re-enter b1 takes time to trigger so slows you down ^

[dim escarp]

I see

[tropic summit]

that team loses to:

2RL glass cannon
2RL indom
2RL stall
3RL nuke
3RL stall
2.5RL ros SG
3RL sg

wins against:

p1 B3s
3.5RL+ non Aoe Nukers

[dim escarp]

[tropic summit]

i strongly advise changing it because the win ratio looks grim

[dim escarp]

I wish I had emi

[rich ledge]

does that mean I cannot overload drake then?

[dim escarp]

everything could be so much better to cook

[hollow lagoon]

i'm ready to get this season

[tropic summit]

you just need to replace drake with another clip SG

sugar, pepper, viper, bsoda, noir etc

[rich ledge]

then where do i put drake?

[tropic summit]

one that does not steal ein's atk% as top 2 or top 1 at least

[rich ledge]

then drake will become unused and wasted?

[tropic summit]

i mean you can look at your own lineup, as we just discussed you only need to swap them with another that does not steal your atk% from ein

the easiest choice here is swap drake with either noir or bsoda

[shell hazel]

send Drake in by herself

villain does not need friends 😄

solo Drake!

[rich ledge]

hmm my scarlet team has lowest CP tho maybe I can overload some of Rapunzel is that good?

rather than overloading drake

[tropic summit]

CP is not needed in CA, but you do want dolls and 4OL for the sake of stats, HP and atk%

especially on those exposed to damage or supposed to deal dmg

in your case

scarlet, blanc, sbs, ein, jackal, naga, centi, grave, rrh, anchor

[rich ledge]

man anis could be exposed but it feels like a waste overloading

[tropic summit]

anis isn't exposed

that's p5, unless you're on attack and enemy has 2+SGs

then again it won't matter as rapu will revive trina and you get to burst

obviously you're dead regardless if they run rosanna

[rich ledge]

hmm then i guess the best choice is to pump anchor a little

[tropic summit]

p1 will be on the receiving end of direct fire
p2 will be exposed to splash
p5 direct fire to SG when you attacking

keep those in mind overall

the extra further variable is siren, as she will prevent your B2 or B3 if they're in p1

[rich ledge]

grave has 2 OL centi 2OL anchor 0 OL the other p1s all has 4 OLs

i replaced pepper with siren since it doesnt affect the burst speed

[dim escarp]

no matter how much I think about it, I have no idea how to improve without weakening the first three teams , it's annoying

guess I have to wait another burst gen and invest a bit more

[atomic wolf]

@tropic summit how am i cooking.

[tropic summit]

that's the common struggle, realistically you'll have 4 teams potentially good and a 5th on high copium

[ruby iris]

Which one?

[dim escarp]

time to pray to make top 8 again

[tropic summit]

T1 ok
T2 ok
T3 bad (unprotected and non revive blanc p1)
T4 bad (poor B3 choice, unprotected noah)
T5 bad (unbuffed ein will tickle)

[tropic summit]

nay to both

there's a lot of errors here and there

[ruby iris]

Bruh

I tried

[tropic summit]

to give you a few pointers:

-you're bursting with crown instead of trina
-you're using RH B2
-SBS without stalling or indom
-single buff pmaid isn't letha

hence:

-make proper scarlet archetype with trina as B2
-make proper s.anis archetype with either indom or behind a noah
-make proper SBs archetype, roughtly just like s.anis
-make proper pmaid nuke (needs double buff, ideally with jackal)
-cindy team for the most part is OK

[ruby iris]

Wait RH B2? Is the third team a defense team?

Or what idk lol

[atomic wolf]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUC

[tropic summit]

you're bursting with RH B2 here

[atomic wolf]

WHAT AM I GONNA RUN

I AM NOT SMART ENOUGH

[ruby iris]

Oh that one yeah true

[rich ledge]

railtracer gonna form everybodies CA teams

[tropic summit]

it's good that people is trying on their own

this is where you learn the most from, nothing beats mashing your head against these "puzzles" of sort

[atomic wolf]

i'm not trying i'm crying

[rich ledge]

yea always will need to be corrected by you 🤣