pvp-arena

[unique wagon]

In points

[hollow lagoon]

Like what would it look like for people who can’t qualify

[unique wagon]

What is Laplace doing in T1

[hollow lagoon]

Idk if I like your comps

[graceful grotto]

SODAAAA

but can she survive in pos 1?

[unique wagon]

Introducing

[graceful grotto]

imma steal this thank you v much

[crystal flicker]

NaH

[unique wagon]

No, we need Mihara Makima the goat

[crystal flicker]

Cindy ditcher

[unique wagon]

Do you even have Emilia 38%

[unique wagon]

Drags speed too much

SGs very good for misleading enemy indom

Altho Emilia 2 RL indom will lose to anyone else 2 RL indom

[crystal flicker]

That stacked Emi

I'll run 5 x 2.5 if I have the cs lol

[hollow lagoon]

Any of you guys on global?

[grizzled bone]

What are you cooking with Drake?

[hollow lagoon]

Happened today

No gear tho gonna be a fun one

[graceful grotto]

21% sadly

[unique wagon]

Then use something else

Noise Noah Emilia is pretty good

And something Bay Helm

Let me cook one

[fiery parcel]

4 hours and nobody is trying to snipe me? Blissss

[hollow lagoon]

I went over all my matches last CA

Seems like SG teams are not in great track records

Had for fight 3 sg teams on my weakest fodder team and no sg team won?

[crystal flicker]

Uninvested SG just walking brick

[keen vapor]

It's not greyed
I get to cheer people

[gaunt viper]

Thoughts on how to beat this comp? only the 3rd one won

[graceful grotto]

bring your team 1 to team 2 and you win

[gaunt viper]

huh, really? and here I thought my t2 wasn't great

[graceful grotto]

noah is hard counter for cindy

[hollow lagoon]

Swap team 1 and 2

[gaunt viper]

ohhhh okay that's what you meant. I thought you meant it as t2 would beat t1 for some reason 😅

[hollow lagoon]

That and

Siren stun scarlet

=u prob win

[graceful grotto]

technically it is doable, BUT your noise would be receiving indo instead of emilia so there's that

[hollow lagoon]

Indom team was hit or miss for me last CA

50% win rate

[graceful grotto]

indo team for me it's always 3RL so it's tricky

the moment a 2RL appear = lose

[hollow lagoon]

Idk I’m not knowledgeable

I just roll stuff out and hope it sticks

[gaunt viper]

that's what I've been having happen

how would I prevent it yet still make a good team?

[hollow lagoon]

I have no idea I kind of wanna give up indom team to make my stall team better for next CA

[graceful grotto]

normally noise is not suitable to be run with blanc, since blanc will use indo on lowest health unit (outside herself) and you normally want your dps to be that unit, but noise will taunt and tank attacks so she's most likely the unit that received the indo instead

you can try noah + noise and blanc + biscuit instead

[gaunt viper]

with Blanc in p1 and Biscuit in p2 then?

[graceful grotto]

blanc p1 yes, but your dps on p2, since u want your dps to take dmg (RL will hit p2)

[hollow lagoon]

That’s pertty smart might roll that

Since Blanc can’t indom her self

[gaunt viper]

well I ran that against them and t1 lost, 2 and 3 won tho. but t1 lost because despite mermaid being P4 she was killed before any other unit

she was seemingly targeted

[hollow lagoon]

Scarlet countered to death

[graceful grotto]

she probably procs too much scarlet's counter?

[gaunt viper]

Ahhhh right, i forgot that would probably be the case 🤔

[hollow lagoon]

Oh u have no jackal to protect

Tragic

[graceful grotto]

noah and blanc on the same team? just in case noah die?

[hollow lagoon]

Incase siren stun Noah I’m assuming

[spare nimbus]

mf lost took my comp and i don't even know how to beat my own defense 😭

[unique wagon]

Not really but I guess that makes sense.

[spare nimbus]

yo dude f u

[unique wagon]

Other variants too.

[spare nimbus]

ik u see me

stop attacking me

[coarse lake]

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[unique wagon]

The last one should be best.

[gaunt viper]

lmao 🧂

[spare nimbus]

dude check dms

[unique wagon]

People are more likely to run Noise solo B1 than Noah solo B1

Hence Laplace in SG team can counter solo B1 noise in P1

I mean except enemy runs Noah Noise

In which Drake is better

Or perhaps...

BSoda in Helm team is better

That team is weak to Electric

And BSoda is Iron

But running BSoda and LaplaceTr together might counter Scarlet

Split or funnel

[lost ether]

idk how to beat that team

sometime they replace rosanna with siren too

[meager linden]

Guys, how to beat this team? I dont get it. Siren always stun my Noah in 1 seconds after start.

[unique wagon]

It's just Flex.

LaplaceTr, Bsoda, Drake, and Noir are interchangeable.

[graceful grotto]

your Noah and your Noise, which one has higher charge speed

[meager linden]

My Noah

[graceful grotto]

Try Noise / Noah / Cinderella / HelmT / Jackal

i assume it's rookie

[meager linden]

Yes. Thx i try it now

[unique wagon]

Done my new CA cook

[quick lake]

Always had been possible. Even without 38 emilia

[meager linden]

Heh it doesnt work. Stun Noah again. And im wipe out 🙂

[unique wagon]

Anti Siren

Except Team 2

Well if u use Pepper its anti Siren

[keen vapor]

@coarse lake give me tips for 30-6 or add me in game as friend

[unique wagon]

Done.

[coarse lake]

what's the fight like

oh that one

[keen vapor]

Instant wipe for me

[coarse lake]

uh... kill them before you get sniped? at the start spam to gen then cover everyone except your dps

[keen vapor]

And again, and again

[coarse lake]

and just pray your dps isn't the one targeted

b3 rapipi should help if your other fire dps are a bit weak

[unique wagon]

Someone run for research pls

[coarse lake]

oh I do have friend slot too

[unique wagon]

Rookie or other modes

[keen vapor]

Problem with Rapi is that she won't nuke screen in time

[coarse lake]

gimme your id

[unique wagon]

You use RH B1 and click fast

[unique wagon]

How r those 2 related

How is adding as friend related to giving tips

[coarse lake]

just kill the mobs, while praying they snipe your covered nikkes

[unique wagon]

Dont

[keen vapor]

04455304

[keen vapor]

Why not I want to make friend section of clear info useful

[meager linden]

Well...thats Siren team unbeatable for me..

[unique wagon]

Answer my question

[meager linden]

Rookie

[graceful grotto]

i would say to try

Noah Jackal Cinderella Bay HelmT

but there's prolly better option

[unique wagon]

Noise Noah Cindy HelmTr Rumani

Or turn off min firing

[graceful grotto]

his noah gets stun when he use noise noah

[unique wagon]

Pls turn off min firing

[meager linden]

What is min firing? 😄

[keen vapor]

It's already off

[unique wagon]

He doesnt know whats min firing is how do u know its off

[keen vapor]

He never turned it on

[unique wagon]

He might

Different language

[keen vapor]

[meager linden]

Let me check

[graceful grotto]

this thingy

[meager linden]

Ok im turn it off

[unique wagon]

Ok if that team doesnt work u can try baiting Siren away

[unique wagon]

Was it on or off

[meager linden]

It was on

[keen vapor]

[unique wagon]

@keen vapor you are demoted to Rookie MA

[keen vapor]

:caught ig:

[meager linden]

Does it affect the arena that much?

[keen vapor]

For now it seems

[unique wagon]

Rookie yes

[swift mango]

Wasting Noah and Blanc in same team to counter siren. But then Siren stun Noah and Blanc indom Noah and you lose.

[unique wagon]

It affects all AR, SMG, MG, which also affects Jackal and Scar feed and Siren stun speed.

[keen vapor]

[unique wagon]

Not wasting. Blanc was about be unused.

Blanc cannot indom Noah cus both B2.

Oh wait ure right

[swift mango]

[meager linden]

Ok. Now I'll know about it.

[graceful grotto]

give it a try, see if you win

[keen vapor]

now you're demoted from Challenger

[unique wagon]

Its not to counter Siren tbh its to counter Noah death

[gaunt viper]

I'm stuck at that exact same stage. have been for a little bit now

[swift mango]

Then use biscuit

[keen vapor]

@fathom rock save us we're subscribers and you know it

[gaunt viper]

[unique wagon]

Used by Moran

[grizzled bone]

I heard we're demoting Echo

[keen vapor]

[grizzled bone]

You say demote and Echo in the same sentence and my Spidey senses start tingling

[meager linden]

Ok. im turn off min firing and use Noise-Noah-Cindy-THelm-Jackal ?

[keen vapor]

Not when a successful defense has been given to me

[swift mango]

You can't build a strong CA team with Blanc and Noah in the same team. Basically wasting 2 best generic burst 2 on same team.

[unique wagon]

Blanc is not the best B2 in CA

Not even in SpA

[grizzled bone]

I'm retired chef. Now I am janitor

[swift mango]

She is one of the best and win match by herself

[unique wagon]

Shes cheap and good but outclassed at high investments

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

don't say that

[coarse lake]

she needs biscuit or jackal to perform well

[final wedge]

next CA gonna be fun with many teams aware of Siren stun now

[swift mango]

There is no higher investment for 5 team burst 2.

[grizzled bone]

Soy conserje.

[keen vapor]

I've done 2 RL Blanc P1 shenanigans before

[swift mango]

Or just rapu

[unique wagon]

There is

[swift mango]

There isn't

[unique wagon]

Blanc literally cant go anywhere else

[keen vapor]

El conserje no

[swift mango]

Maybe your teams are bricked

[unique wagon]

Its not

[grizzled bone]

Tal vez me mude a México y a un agave agrícola

[keen vapor]

Granjero?

[grizzled bone]

https://tenor.com/view/its-a-peaceful-life-galen-erso-star-wars-rogue-one-mads-mikkelsen-gif-26203910

[keen vapor]

||This was the perfect moment for "No es mucho pero es un trabajo honesto"||

[swift mango]

Okay you are right, hope you don't meet siren with that.

[grizzled bone]

Me equivoqué

[coarse lake]

I sent request btw

[keen vapor]

I've accepted before you send that

[coarse lake]

how many lvls in core dust do you have saved

[keen vapor]

1 and a half.... Without government selectors (178 of those)

Haven't recycled battle data yet

[coarse lake]

smh echo, still don't have tier 3 frame

then we're still approx 10 sync diff then

[keen vapor]

I just started getting first places

[unique wagon]

Happy now?

[swift mango]

No just use the old teams.

[keen vapor]

That's why I have to push

[unique wagon]

I GAVE U WHAT U WISHED FOR

[swift mango]

[unique wagon]

Ahahahagagagahahahayyqyqyayqya

CS bricked

[coarse lake]

imagine still not properly cs tuning your noise and noah in this day and age

[keen vapor]

Time to 70 gem roll wipeout

[swift mango]

Time to use your cards

[coarse lake]

ppl didn't believe, now siren punishes it hard

[unique wagon]

Would I like to introduce you to Soda and Rosanna

Actually I have one more solution

[grizzled bone]

@coarse lake couldn't be me

[meager linden]

Noise, Jackal quantum 9.

[keen vapor]

Just to confirm, Eon you don't do the 50 gem wipeout right?

[coarse lake]

I don't

[keen vapor]

Yeah, I'll catch up

[coarse lake]

ok buying the 20 usd anni pack, I can't let echo ever catch up

[keen vapor]

[unique wagon]

Your solution.

[keen vapor]

@rich quail this is what you failed on

[unique wagon]

New cook. Please give opinion.

[fathom rock]

When im back homw ill give it a beating at 40%

[spare nimbus]

bro do u have a level 15 tempering wtf

[unique wagon]

Its theoretical

[coarse lake]

seem fine, I very slightly prefer right side

I would swap jackal and scar positions, to have invuln vs defending sgs

[keen vapor]

Ngl, this is good value, now I want to buy it

One work day didn't paid enough tho

@spare nimbus those are pesos mexicanos, not dollars

[coarse lake]

yeah it's decent

was on the fence already

maybe I should wipeout once a day too

I already am ok with refreshing dispatch like 20+ times a day

[unique wagon]

Hmm

Good point

[spare nimbus]

ohhhh

😭

[umbral belfry]

almost $500

[coarse lake]

for my cs build I actually run p2 jackal, so that I'm guaranteed to get 1 jackal proc against any team in 1rl, so that my team can get faster than 2rl with cs

with those quantums should be fine, like a single scar counter is enough anyway

[keen vapor]

2 days of work worth

[unique wagon]

Hmm

Good point

[coarse lake]

I run adj on trina and centi normally, just quantum on jackal, so I need 1 jackal proc

[unique wagon]

Good point.

[shrewd hearth]

Hi, sorry for interrupting. Can I ask what teams should I put into SP Arena :< I put all my strongest nikkes and my squad power is higher than my opponent, but I still lose

Here are all my nikkes, tyvm ;;-;;

[rich quail]

Bruh

What u talking about?

[unique wagon]

I would just run Scarlet Blanc Centi Anis Jackal.

[keen vapor]

I catch'd up

[unique wagon]

Oh its sparena

[rich quail]

As u should

I didn’t tell u to handicap yourself

@umbral crown arrest this man for talking nonsense

[shrewd hearth]

Tysm 🥺

[keen vapor]

[unique wagon]

No thats for rookie

[quick lake]

Scar Blanc RH Centi Jackal
Noise Liter SBS Marciana Drake
Auto
Wishlist Rumani, Trina and Noah. Missing key pvp units

[shrewd hearth]

Omg thank you so much ;;-;;

[rich quail]

@keen vapor instead of hoarding CD cases…

you should’ve hoarded battle data and credit cases

you FOOL

[meager linden]

That team realy pain in the ass

[coarse lake]

he just didn't fall behind, what's this about catching up

[unique wagon]

Tf Trina gets indom

[meager linden]

IDK

[coarse lake]

scar too tanky

[unique wagon]

TRINA HEAL RUINS PVP AGAIN

[coarse lake]

oh yeah could be heals too

[unique wagon]

I really want to see someone running Scar Blanc and winning against Siren Noah cus they stun Scar

[meager linden]

Heh

[unique wagon]

U got any vid

AgentEon or @bleak shale

[unique wagon]

^

Kosmiu I know u were the one who came up with that

You should have one vid by now

[umbral crown]

479?

[bleak shale]

Isn't this from the invuln letting Trina take link DMG while scar doesn't

[bleak shale]

I didn't record it

[keen vapor]

For one level + tons of pull value

[unique wagon]

RECORD IT

[swift mango]

@umbral crown steal all his doros.

[unique wagon]

@swift mango @swift mango oops misclick

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

Has happened to me before

[umbral crown]

on my way

[bleak shale]

I don't want to open my own sp arena to siren

[unique wagon]

Idk tbh cant see due to Trina giving Max HP and skewing the thing

[bleak shale]

The less I show them the less they know

[umbral crown]

[quick lake]

[keen vapor]

Dorothy

[unique wagon]

Well u can always run Scar Blanc Centi Anis Jackal if not cpdiffed and if ure sure Scar can survive till Blanc burst. Otherwise, any AoE-B3 Blanc Trina Centi Jackal that satisfies 2 RL and has enough damage to kill everyone during Indom.

Do not use Cindy or SAnis or other Supports/Defenders.

[unique wagon]

You attack la

[spiral onyx]

You cant whale rocks lol. Good luck getting both 4x atk + 4x black/blue charge speed OL lines on Emilia

[keen vapor]

"Now do it on Helm"

[spiral onyx]

Ive already accepted that my Emilia cannot 1-shot with just Blanc debuff and needs needs another Helm+ so a 2nd buffer can be squeezed in

[swift mango]

You can one shot with just Miranda buff.

[keen vapor]

Miranda no good burst gen

That's Mica

[swift mango]

Neither Blanc

[swift mango]

Mica need another buffer the same

[keen vapor]

Blanc allows Emilia to fire in the first place

[swift mango]

Bay or Noah could too

[eternal finch]

Noah team destroyed by Rosanna

[keen vapor]

but you were winning with Noah against Team 2, why fight 1

[eternal finch]

Something happened and now that team lsot

[keen vapor]

[eternal finch]

😭

[keen vapor]

No invested Rosanna of your own ig?

[eternal finch]

my Rosanna is 7/10/10 OL4/4/4/4

[keen vapor]

[eternal finch]

Current roster

[keen vapor]

@leaden canyon forgot this, Rosanna P1 might cause a target skip
Move to P2

My bad

But his def is the same?

[keen vapor]

It'll be better if you had no ammo on your Scar

[eternal finch]

Same team.

[eternal finch]

my quantum is lvl 14

[keen vapor]

Use Noah team with Rumani instead of Centi, put her on P5, and Helm instead of Noise
Keep Cinderella at P3

Then use on round 1

For round 2 try
Scarlet/Trina/Rapunzel/Centi/Jackal

I hope you invested Trina skill 2

Was going to suggest Rosanna instead of Rapunzel however that team is really slow so just Scar nuke alone should do the work

[eternal finch]

Trina is maxed

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Why Rossanna p1 ? To make their 3rl team 2rl? It's not even counter Siren because Siren would hit Scarlet anyway.

[quick lake]

oh i forgot about that. My rosanna P1 in rookie

[eternal finch]

ok, that did it! Thanks!

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

My bad I said

[keen vapor]

at least I'm not alone

[eternal finch]

Any recs for DEF team involving Rosanna?

[keen vapor]

..... I'm wondering if I make you use Helm burst

[eternal finch]

She died before burst

[keen vapor]

Wait, Rosanna... So impossible

[keen vapor]

Right

But I guess she ended on P2?

[quick lake]

Scar Ros Trina Centi Jackal

[eternal finch]

yup

[keen vapor]

This

[quick lake]

With cs% on RL units, u can reach maybe 1.8RL

[keen vapor]

I wasn't really intending to do that but then again Helm lifesteal + burst snipe would allow to fight other Scarlet variants

Unless maxed Moran burst allows water units to survive Rosanna nuke .....

[eternal finch]

mmm

I was wondering if Rosanna would help, but if not, a good DEF line would be better then.

[keen vapor]

I wouldn't trust Def lines that high

[eternal finch]

I mean a DEF comp, sorry.

[keen vapor]

I know I just teach you how to beat that comp but even I use it as defense

[eternal finch]

ah

[keen vapor]

A good def is made out of 3 good teams anyways

Not just one

[eternal finch]

This is what I current got

[final wedge]

wait....it cant 1shot with just Blanc????!!!

[keen vapor]

Huh? We're running very similar setups

[final wedge]

hmm....this is bad....

[keen vapor]

No....

[quick lake]

Just run my propaganda SPA teams

[final wedge]

damn...meaning CA team for blanc need to have more dmg buffer to counter team like Nero Moran.....or else....nothing will stand in dat team way

[keen vapor]

My own variation was Emilia instead of Cinderella so I could place her in P2 and get a good Indomitable unit

Btw, Treasure Drake bricks Summer Anis attack

For more info check FAQ on pinned messages(?

[eternal finch]

oh shoot, right.

[spiral onyx]

In CA, just assume everyone is C7 lvl 7 Tempering SR5 doll

[final wedge]

i did assume dat....i thought it still would kill em......

[eternal finch]

I guess swap her for Maiden?

[final wedge]

darn it........

i gotta recook my team for season 3

[keen vapor]

That will work (Ice Maiden )

[eternal finch]

so you would do Noise, Emilia, Blanc, Helm, Rumani?

[keen vapor]

I actually did run Moran bc that's the burst I maxed

Noise burst is still level 7

[eternal finch]

Moran>Noise?

[final wedge]

depends on what team u wanna create

cant justify 100% Moran > Noise

[keen vapor]

Wouldn't be sure about it

Specially when you combine both healings

I remember I lost against a Noise Blanc team bc of their healing

[eternal finch]

I used to have Moran maxed but never got a chance to make teams with her...

[final wedge]

try with Nero.....dat over 100% dmg reduce can broke some ppl in PVP

[keen vapor]

Tried didn't worked

[final wedge]

u dont put it when Blanc SBS combo meta is up....

put it after that meta is ded

[keen vapor]

More mats will allow Sakura meta to arise?

[final wedge]

when SBS blanc RH meta was up.....ofc Nero Moran will be ded....its like by default

the win rate of this team is pretty high as well in my bracket....so sad i cant make one.....need more skill mats

[valid fern]

I wonder if 31 ammo Scarlet is low enough to avoid Siren stun

[quick lake]

Needs zero ammo i think

so 20

[valid fern]

thats overkill. you will lose 1 atk stack at 2rl if you do that

in any case im talking about Siren in CA

not in borked Rookie Arena where you can change setting to make Siren stun earlier

[coarse lake]

sakura meta won't exist in champ

[coarse lake]

just alter your scar team positioning

[valid fern]

that will be tricky if im using scarjack with rh buffer

[coarse lake]

just use liter instead

[quick lake]

Yea should be enough to avoid stun

Okay, maybe not. Seems v close

Siren should stun at like 2.99rl or something

So u need sub 30 ammo to avoid stun

My bricked Scar becoming even better

[valid fern]

from my own footage it looks like it should be enough to avoid. guess we'll find out in CA eventually.

[graceful grotto]

if used with trina scar prolly don't even need mammo kewk

[valid fern]

trina only increases max ammo. not actual ammo.

in any case it looks like from my footage there is leeway for up to 34 bullets

[unique wagon]

Yeah i changed the comps further

[strong hull]

[unique wagon]

I wanted to make Team 4 Siren proof but it's harder than I thought.

Indom will go to Noah likely.

Although maybe Emilia P2 would get splashed enough to receive Indom, perhaps.

Removed Tempering on Emilia so she will take more damage from splashes.

Well the chance of meeting wiper + Siren is pretty low already.

No team is vulnerable to SG, except Team 5 cus likely mirror.

Alternatively, this team with Rapu on P2. Need CS on Team 4 to counter Siren so Noah bursts before Siren stun.

IGNORE THIS ONE. USE THE ONE ABOVE.

Ok that's more irrational but...

I would suppose I want 2 RL on Helm, so last one is not good.

[spiral onyx]

I'm not sure RH + Emilia is enough either but you do have Laplace adding in splash damage so maybe

I don't plan on abandoning my <2RL Cindy comp though, win rate way too high

[quick lake]

T4 looks sexy, 5x 17%

[unique wagon]

It's exaggerated.

Still 2 RL with 0 CS lmao

[valid fern]

if using scar blanc trina jackal and you are up against defense SG, would those SG sniping jackal + trina invuln potentially mess up blanc targeting scar since she won't be taking damage in first two seconds ?

[unique wagon]

But it does look sexy

[unique wagon]

Noise Noah Cindy HelmTr Rumani?

I would really love to see a matchup between that team and all the team I made. But youre not sync 400 so cant do that.

[spiral onyx]

Yes, with 17% charge speed on everyone so it's faster than 2RL, which is key

[spiral onyx]

Don't need to, it's still rock paper scissors, no amount of tweaking will change that. There will always be one ordering that let's you win and one ordering that let's you lose

The real answer is if you did every permutation of matchups, which side has slightly higher win chances

And that's where test matrix percentages come in

[unique wagon]

Meh, I think any of the 4 teams except Team 5 (unless they have faster XAnne and therefore kill both Rapu/Noise with Rosa before Burst) still have a decent chance of winning.

It's all CS anyways.

Everything is down to Charge Speed.

[spiral onyx]

T1: Cindy counter
T2: SG counter
T3: Scar Jackal counter
T4: SAnis counter (maybe, investment dependent)
T5: Whatever my secret T5 is

There, that's a theoretical matchup where you lose at least 3 matches, potentially 4 or all 5 matches

What are the chances of that? 1 in 5!. So the question becomes how many of those other 5! - 1 setups will result in your win or mine

[unique wagon]

Wrong screenshot.

[spiral onyx]

I also have a splitting headache right now so not gonna think anymore

[unique wagon]

Get well soon.

[spiral onyx]

I swear there's some May flu season or whatnot, kids bringing back all sorts of sicks

[unique wagon]

I am aware that there are counters to this team but they fare well against most teams. Well until you meet ScarJacks, which kill everything anyways. SodaScarJack is barely counterable almost no point.

[spiral onyx]

What I've realized during the past week that I was cooking during S2 is that right now the bar is really really high for T5. There's just not enough burst gen, even with charge speed, to make 5 safe and fast teams. You can make 5 teams, but you end up making one team much worse. And with the best-of-5 format, it's still better to have 4 strong teams and one gimmick team than 5 so so teams

I tried converting some 2RL teams to 2.5RL, the win rates tanked

I tried doing stuff like replace Noah with Bay or MAnchor, win rates tankdd

Replaced Noise with Milk or Frima, win rates tanked

Single buff Emilia, not enough damage

[shell hazel]

just general SG team for CA + I want SG team for solo raid

[spiral onyx]

Only interesting thing I've found so far is Helm+ can gimmick a few teams, the other teams lose burst gen

[shell hazel]

have been for a while tbh, my main campaign team still gets dev but my raid units have taken a backseat for months already, I'll get back to them in a while 😄

[spiral onyx]

And require stuff like B1 Pascal which also causes other issues

[unique wagon]

Fortunately, none among all those units in Team 5 would make the other teams go faster anyway. I really want to see Makima Mihara debut tho. Cus that T5 gimmick might win against most T5 gimmick.

[spiral onyx]

Makima is definitely a gimmick but maybe worth the 1/5 yolo

Even OG Sakura might be it

Soda/Siren too

Mihara Mana requires Rosanna which makes the SG team weaker so not worth trying that

[shell hazel]

I don't have Soda or Rumani so my day is ruined for making 5 working teams 😦

[spiral onyx]

But it's definitely interesting and worth a showcase video

[spiral onyx]

Two of my guildies have no Emilia. They are PvP bricked and I had hell trying to cook their teams lol

[shell hazel]

yeah I don't have her but more because I started after re:zero

[unique wagon]

It is bugged but most people try and Mihara dies too fast if not dolled.

[shell hazel]

so no one in my brackets has emi

[unique wagon]

The bug is Mihara can oneshot immediately after revive.

It is actually very strong.

But you need massive luck.

[spiral onyx]

They did both manage to get into top 16 though, and one of my guildies also managed to win R1 on his server with me teams

[shell hazel]

yeah I was in top 4 last time, but not sure this time if people will have cooked new things 😛

want to win it one day

[unique wagon]

Go in with mine

[shell hazel]

I can't even if I wanted to missing too many units

many because collab/limited before I started

[spiral onyx]

Server 1: Keripo R2
Server 2: Tamago R1
Server 3: Romariel Top 8
Server 4: Logic R2

Not bad results across the board for my S2 cook

[shell hazel]

no S.anis, no Emi, no Soda, no Miracle anne or w/e her name is

I lost in top 4 due to my SG team being poor, I've improved it a bit but it's not perfect, but not to say the same teams again would get the same result

my Ros was 1/1/1 😄

[valid fern]

I beat one of your guildies last season. So if you made their teams for them does that mean I beat you by proxy?

[shell hazel]

cooking 5 teams definitely adds a lot of complexity to things

[spiral onyx]

No one has close to the level of PvP investments as me in my guild lol. Lotta 4/4/4s with +0 T9Ms cause everyone is PvE focused

[valid fern]

The max cores though. They scare me.

[swift mango]

@tropic summit so you are bricked.

[valid fern]

Only a matter of time before they catch up

[spiral onyx]

cores dont matter as much as skill levels and gear and dolls though

but yes, they will be able to eventually catch up

some were also running B2 Treasured Viper as their solo SG team B2

[hollow lagoon]

All u gotta do is win once and it is what it is anyway

[spiral onyx]

All u gotta do is win 32 times and it is what it is anyway

Fixed that for you

[quick lake]

Just get lucky with matchups

[hollow lagoon]

Ca is 50%luck 50%smart comp

[valid fern]

luck is the real superpower. I should start my poker career already.

[swift mango]

Keripo confirmed. You are bricked.

[unique wagon]

No Emi, No Trina, No Scar is brick.

[spiral onyx]

Id say 33% team comps, 33% investments, 33% luck, and 1% ||deez nuts||
But over time, team comps will all be copied and investments maxed out, so it'll be 99% luck and still 1% ||deez nuts||

[unique wagon]

No Cindy is ironically fine because she is slow.

[quick lake]

wdym Emilia rerun ard the corner

[unique wagon]

No Biscu No Noah No Jackal brick.

[spiral onyx]

Emilia rerun
Rem rerun

[valid fern]

I would weight it more towards luck. like 30/30/40

[swift mango]

Nah it's CSM movie collab

[spiral onyx]

Dont worry though, we're just gonna have an Emilia power creep sooner or later

[quick lake]

Kara top 4 without Scar
Me top 8 without Emilia
Just get lucky

[swift mango]

[spiral onyx]

just like how every other collab unit has been powercrept so far except Makima

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel it’s not like our bracket will ever get Emi anyway, and by the time some sort of rerun happen we prob have better units by then

[spiral onyx]

2B? 2Who? You mean 2Cindy?

[swift mango]

could have been champ if you didn't brick

[shell hazel]

yeah just means comps containing them can't be run

[quick lake]

~~ Watch me champ without Emilia~~

[unique wagon]

Not in whale arena.

[valid fern]

I don't think Emilia will ever really get powercreeped. A battery is a battery. Unless they absolutely flood the market with similar tier or better batteries which I don't see anytime ever.

[swift mango]

go for it

[quick lake]

Emilia rerun surely

[shell hazel]

re:re:zero re:run

[hollow lagoon]

Bro if I can get 2nd last season running 2 team of cp pad it’s not that hard to just roll with it, only thing I know from looking at my matches is that , my weakest fodder team with orange gear that’s not even manuf rolled over multiple SG teams that have treasure drake would not recommend

[crystal flicker]

Whyd you skip Emi tho

Elf hater smh

[valid fern]

we just have to keep selecting re:zero when those surveys pop up. trust

[crystal flicker]

Also SU:
Eva 3.0

[hollow lagoon]

I regret pulling collabs

[quick lake]

I didnt care abt pvp then

[crystal flicker]

So you just don't like Elf

[hollow lagoon]

She’s not that attractive looking anyway

[crystal flicker]

It's true Emi not my #1 when it comes to elf

[unique wagon]

Teenager joined the riot bandwagon, got bricked in the end. - Dhar Mann

[kind palm]

I mlb rem and 1 copy emilia

[crystal flicker]

Ok that one not elf

[plucky charm]

is siren stun faster than being able to hit b2 in 2rl?

[hollow lagoon]

Fire rate is 20/s

It’s around then 2.5rl range

[crystal flicker]

12/rl for SP iirc

[hollow lagoon]

So ur saying she stuns at 3.5-4 rl-?

[kind palm]

it’s been so long since I last used makima
might as well just put her coat back on

[hollow lagoon]

Then again it takes units time to charge which is why sec then fire which is like 15 frame ish?

[crystal flicker]

No

[swift mango]

I cared about the Campaign more then but she was actually an improvement over anything else I had at the time.

Rem was worse

[quick lake]

Yes, I pulled Rem too

[swift mango]

Give her to me sensei

[kind palm]

I think I’ll really use makima in my next CA teams

[crystal flicker]

SMG first rl 12/rl
2nd and onwards 20/rl
Travelling time 4

Idk what Gatrix's formula
But maybe the stun is 4/20 = 0.2 + 3RL = 3.2RL

[swift mango]

try to be champ yourself

[unique wagon]

No.

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

What if the Shotgun kills scar in P5?

[kind palm]

for now makima is the only 1 in 25 that haven't got OL
and I rolled most RL to 12% cs now

[quick lake]

frankly she works without OL

[plucky charm]

so she stuns at 3rl ish time?

[kind palm]

at least want her to do some more damage if she's the only one that survived LOL

[quick lake]

Yeah, abt there

[crystal flicker]

SP and CA

[valid fern]

according to my video data. siren stuns at 3.416 seconds. 2RL noah with no CS would activate at around 3.666 seconds.

[crystal flicker]

Is CS that relevant tho

[spiral onyx]

I have CA data if you want to go through my videos

but yeah, she stuns before B2 even against a 2RL team

[kind palm]

how many cs for 2RL team with p1 scar to burst before siren stun
but seems not possible?

[hollow lagoon]

My solution is to just not put scarlet p1

[valid fern]

well, Noah's individual cs not really. but cs as whole team yes.

[crystal flicker]

Just put Scar at P2

Or even better, bring Soda

[valid fern]

just lower Scarlet ammo to 30-33. Can probably do 34 but 33 and lower safer.

I don't think I can really move Scarlet away from p1 in RH buffer comp

[kind palm]

there's a lot of difference in trying to avoid siren when you put your B1 linked jackal at p1 instead of scar who get 2 sec invul from trina imo

go for low ammo scar

[spiral onyx]

#pvp-arena , actively promoting bricking your Scarlet for PvE to take advantage of a gimmick to counter a single unit

[hollow lagoon]

My scarlet has no ammonia roll anyway

[valid fern]

Worth it to brick pve Scarlet to give the middle finger to Siren.

I dont even use her in pve anyway

[hollow lagoon]

Why 30 tho, so she reloads and take cover?

[crystal flicker]

You want Hit Rate tho for Scarlet

[plucky charm]

should this work then?

[grizzled shell]

can someone help me to make 3 beginner teams for atk and def for pvp i'm in early game like lvl 120.-140

[crystal flicker]

Whats Scarlet base ammo

[hollow lagoon]

20

[crystal flicker]

oh just need to roll 1 ammo

[hollow lagoon]

No meth to gamba for me

[final wedge]

if the context is CA.....lb0 vs C7 has like 40 lvl stats different btw

[spiral onyx]

Bro, what player is running LB0 units and still able to make it into CA lol

[shell hazel]

at my sync, I have some 😄

it's a relative thing

sync 500+ I imagine most have cores

[unique wagon]

Trina immune

[final wedge]

ezy counter for Scarlet

god...i hate dat counter.....why it is per pellet and not per shot

[swift mango]

It would be over by the time Rossanna unlink her

[final wedge]

sometimes i feel like scarlet counter is too OP

[final wedge]

yea.....iirc the waiting time till Rosanna trigger the debuff is like 1 SG shot....or 2....cant remember

but im sure its not 3 shot of shotgun

[hollow lagoon]

Nero counter is better she meows

[swift mango]

Nearly 3

[final wedge]

basically.....Rosanna SG team can have chance to survive even being countered by Scar till the jackal is unlinked.....unless......all pellets are counterd

[crystal flicker]

Now I might wont get that 4th CS line for HelmT

[swift mango]

You only need 2/3 of the pellets countered for DrakeT to die

[unique wagon]

There is Soda

[crystal flicker]

I only need 4th line to get 17% cs

[swift mango]

You can reroll slot 1 for CS now, lucky

[crystal flicker]

And How many rocks it'll take

[swift mango]

Way less than reroll slot 2

[crystal flicker]

Still have to lock 2 slot

[swift mango]

All my tempt lock are gone.

That's my luck

[final wedge]

yea....but chance of fully countered all pellets on 2 shots is very low.....still can survive for the 3rd shot.....unlesss.....dat Scarlet is very very very very lucky lol

or the SG owner has really really really bad luck

[crystal flicker]

That because you're keep locking L2 and L1

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/hZmHNychoUE

[crystal flicker]

Trina, Blanc, Noah, Nero, etc

[final wedge]

ill click it once i get back home....

same goes to ur other vid....

[spiral onyx]

This one is totally SFW though

[final wedge]

i know.....but i just cant play it on public view

too dangerous

[crystal flicker]

Sacc good against DPS comp

Against SAnis kinda slow

[crystal flicker]

Ok this wasnt really bad, I just need to get 3 black / 3 blue for 17% cs

[unique wagon]

No Blanc. Im disappointed.

[tight finch]

Any advice for SP atk comps? Probably start investing in Scarlet after SR

[crystal flicker]

Another Whale

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Trina RH Centi Jackal
Noah Biscuit Cindy HelmT Rumani
Blanc ScarBS Anis(SR) Rapunzel Siren/La+

[tight finch]

Whats min investment for scarlet to start dealing damage? I've been putting it off catching up on story.
Now getting hooked on pvp..

[crystal flicker]

7/4/7

Full OL

Dolls

pretty generic

Trina RH will boost her to the moon

[brazen nova]

this is my team rn, with some help from @tropic summit
i can get to P5 but always back to P8 or 9 because look like my def team are too weak, any advice?

[crystal flicker]

Why bench Scarlet

[brazen nova]

because i just got her

4-4-4 and no ovl gear

[crystal flicker]

Noahless?

OL her and she'll carry your comp

[brazen nova]

Yeah noahless too

[brazen nova]

Yeah I'm farming for Scarlet rn

[hollow lagoon]

Level 200 range don’t need ol

Just need Trina

[brave canyon]

Hey all, was recently able to get Scarlet, I started investing into her. Was wondering if I could get some help for a SP Arena team. This is my box and what i'm currently running. I'm constantly swapping between 1st / 2nd in SP Arena depending on how aggressive the person behind me wants to attack.

[hollow lagoon]

Honestly ur teams look fine

[brave canyon]

Alright, appreciate the input Zantarath, guess i'll just weather the storm for now

[hollow lagoon]

Could change redhood for siren if u wanna yeet Noah teams more consistently

[brave canyon]

that might be a good idea, i'll try it out

[hollow lagoon]

And if you do do that u can use redhood as b1 for Cinderella team for stronger nuke

I do love me some overkill

[brave canyon]

Alright, I'll make those changes. Took out Rumani and put in RH, let's see how it goes once the person in 2nd attacks me. Thanks again, appreciate the quick feedback.

[hollow lagoon]

Atleast you still get attacked now days and can test on people

[brave canyon]

I wouldn't mind being in that position tbh .

[hollow lagoon]

My newest and greatest combo comes from a new angle

All the focuse into pve do pay off eventually

[shell hazel]

that's not focus into pve that's focus into buying core dust 😄

I could have spent all my resources in pve and my cp would be like 450-500k max at my sync, even 10/10/10 all rocks/dolls etc

[brave canyon]

Max core Helm

[shell hazel]

my highest team with decent invest is like 450-460K at 288 sync

[brave canyon]

[shell hazel]

I'd lose on cp deficit before I even started 😛

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[primal charm]

dammn when did your account start

[hollow lagoon]

mid of oldtales

[primal charm]

tell me your budget on coredust

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[primal charm]

i wipe out and reset dispatch for coredust daily and started at quency

and still below 60 sync compare to your

thats impressive

[dire root]

Putting scarlet in P1 with no health buffers on a 4 RL team is bold.

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[dire root]

Man

Scarlet just needed a slither more of HP

[placid bloom]

Too much iron on enemy team

[dire root]

Even with all that iron they still only killed scarlet half a second before burst

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel what’s the tool u use to calculate burst gen again?

[shell hazel]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

yes

s10 on mana

for whatever skill does burst gen

[hollow lagoon]

Mana is s10 I use her for kraken

[shell hazel]

mine is stuck on 4/4/4

[hollow lagoon]

U don’t love glass lab coat girls with short hair

But me tho… I love them glass lab coat girls with short hair

[shell hazel]

nah I do, it's why I pulled her

but... lack of materials still 😛

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[shell hazel]

working on it, I didn't need for kraken I can s6 atm

[hollow lagoon]

Idk I did a brain math and and raising mana skill 2 is more profitable over raising SBS’s own skills after like level 7 or something

[shell hazel]

I run crown / siren / rapi / sbs / helmT and it's good for S6

S7 too far away yet but some more power / levels may get there, my SBS has bricked ele dmg

[shell hazel]

need to spend more rocks on her

[hollow lagoon]

My sbs has 1 roll of ele at 15%

[shell hazel]

yeah same basically, I consider it pretty bricked 😛

[hollow lagoon]

I’m 60% thru that stage 6

[shell hazel]

what dmg do you get?

[shell hazel]

have you tried helm instead of say noir?

or does mana trigger crown passive?

[hollow lagoon]

Yes noir superior sbs never reload other units almost never reload

[hollow lagoon]

Mana also heals team wide and its bigger heal than helmet

If u don’t make helm burst that is

[shell hazel]

yeah she doesn't, I can't auto to it yet though

[hollow lagoon]

I’m not putting auto I’m shooting tentacles

@shell hazel tried both helm T and Noir very close but noir has more growth room

[keen vapor]

There's better ways to deal with that than Noir

[hollow lagoon]

I’m open to advise

[keen vapor]

Max ammo overload lines are the preferred way

The other is leveling skill 2

[hollow lagoon]

Ok

Unit suggestion is?

[keen vapor]

Crown SBS Alice Siren Helm

[hollow lagoon]

I’m not a sweat I can’t Alice

[shell hazel]

or try mine

crown sbs rapi siren helm

even though rapi is neutral element she's still a powerhouse

[keen vapor]

Then let her auto and go to siren to aim tentacles

[shell hazel]

yeah I manual siren it's chill

[keen vapor]

Or that

[hollow lagoon]

Mmk I’ll gob it a go

[covert lintel]

hello echo sensei

[keen vapor]

hello rakuen

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[coarse solstice]

Does OG Maidens Taunt work in PVP?

[keen vapor]

Iirc it takes too much time to happen in a normal PVP fight

[raven plover]

bro actually keep pinging clar... since 8 months ago

[hollow lagoon]

Leveled twice since that number worse is worse

[keen vapor]

Your Helm has favorite item?

[hollow lagoon]

Noir don’t even have full t10 gear

[hollow lagoon]

Of course

[keen vapor]

I have not any unit fully leveled on their gear

[coarse solstice]

What synchro do most people get level 7 kraken

[hollow lagoon]

I mean some of her gear is orange and her pink gear is level 0 compared to the usual 3/4 of my more important units

Also her gear is unrolled trash full of charge attack

[keen vapor]

Not ele? You know Noir is wind after all

[hollow lagoon]

No meth rock to roll

[keen vapor]

Not like you really should roll for it

[keen vapor]

So Helm has gold item maxed
And skills 10/10/10....

[shell hazel]

try mine with rapi instead of alice

if you didn't yet

[hollow lagoon]

It do be better

[shell hazel]

more MG make siren go brrrr

think that is your best one, rapi is the forbidden tech

[hollow lagoon]

This just means my sbs rolls are trash

[shell hazel]

yeah I have same issue, need more meth

[hollow lagoon]

But like

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/excellent-breaking-bad-gus-fring-giancarlo-esposito-positive-word-of-mouth-gif-14049815246425714157

[hollow lagoon]

My mana rolls are also trash

No ele

[shell hazel]

I think s7 isn't much above 3b right?

you're almost there if so

I can get siren a bit more dps with SR-15 eventually, SR-5 atm

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah prob in 2-5 levels but I’m busy farming not kraken atm

[shell hazel]

I think asuka W would also improve this a bit more but mine is low invest atm

eventually I would build her some and run her instead of rapi in that team

[hollow lagoon]

I regret pulling evangelion units

Wish I didn’t

[shell hazel]

I got one of each, and MLB asuka W, I think it will be fine in the end 😛

[hollow lagoon]

I accidentally clicked on rei banner

And then my pure NIKKE account is ruined

With not 1 but 2 rei

And then I’m like ok might as well get the collectivezzzzzz

[keen vapor]

I got Mari twice didn't roll further

[hollow lagoon]

i dont hate the animu characters

they just ruin my experience when i go in outpost and try to find nikke chibis to poke at

i wish there's a way to disable non nikke chibis from appearing in outpost

[strange quail]

My Blanc died before she can burst, will swapping her to 3rd place is the right choice here ?

Can't believe treasured P2 Blanc could die before burst here, but well

[covert lintel]

she get damage from scar s2 and rl shot
you can go p3 if emilia strong enough to tank 3rl shot

[strange quail]

will that team have a better chance to beat this team ?

[covert lintel]

his laplace scary so i think no
but you should try it, i might be wrong about it

[strange quail]

hmmm

why whenever I put my Scar+Trina to front she instantly die but these people can do it freely, what am I missing here

[lunar pawn]

got an example?

[strange quail]

maybe not today cause I will use my second attempt on this guy now

[strange quail]

Even when Blanc is on P3 she still die before she could burst lmao
well hopefully next shuffle will be better
It is happening tomorrow right ?

Disgustingly sweaty bracket, surely it is gonna be better

[lunar pawn]

blanc emilia rapunzel centi jackal could work instead, blanc will die but rapu revives her

[strange quail]

maybe Im gonna try next time if we get into same bracket again, thank you tho

oh nevermind, reshuffle happening on 21 May

[glacial lion]

i thought siren can stun before 2rl burst?

[strange quail]

Siren feed Jackal no ?

[glacial lion]

but it already 3rl when jackal burst

[leaden canyon]

siren stuns the scarlet there

[glacial lion]

jackal

[leaden canyon]

oh jackal

couldn't see it

I think that's because she's in 4th spot

I've only used siren in 1st 2nd and 3rd spots on the team and it's stunned p1

[glacial lion]

fair, this was with siren pos3, she stun before 2rl burst

[drifting hazel]

So, this guy has failed multiple attacks in RA, but his defensive team has 140k over my team, my defensive team is the same as offense, there’s no way I’m winning defensive if his team matches right?

[strange quail]

he don't know that your team counter his probably

Like he is using Siren or Shotgun vs your scarlet for example

[keen vapor]

Siren P5 meta?

[shell hazel]

siren p2-3 stuns p1? p4-5 stuns p5? 😄

[keen vapor]

We always attack P1 sir

[shell hazel]

but then why is jackal stunned here?

[primal charm]

he test comp

[keen vapor]

Sir, right most position we attack is said P1

[shell hazel]

damnit back to front

[drifting hazel]

Let’s hope, I didn’t want to waste an atk on him just to see

[shell hazel]

ofc

[covert lintel]

probably testing comp
i always like that if there is a different team comp
but lately no one put weird comp

[drifting hazel]

Probably testing he might be mirroring my comp but doesn’t have the cp even with 20 synchro difference

But it’s the regular Scar/Jak comp anyway

[keen vapor]

@swift mango it was nice while it lasted

Have to keep looking for my Kisama

[tardy bone]

Jackal protects the main dps right?

Inside all my pvp fights, scarlet always dies first, an jackal has 0 damage taken

I’m doing something wrong?

[minor egret]

Noah/Biscuit/Emilia/RH/Helm how do I counter? I was thinking a slower stall Noah team with S.Anis but I get 20% deficit with that

[quick lake]

Can run slow Blanc SBS RH
Or slow Noah whatever dps

[quick lake]

Likely scarlet not linked

[umbral crown]

Beat him back

[upper grove]

what's the minimum investment for Moran

4/7/7 base OL SR5?

[quick lake]

4/4/7 maybe

[minor egret]

Alright, thanks. Do I need it to be 3RL or 3.5RL?

[quick lake]

ye, that would be good

[umbral crown]

4/7/10

[quick lake]

3RL should be fine

[upper grove]

I'm out of burst mats again

[umbral crown]

[quick lake]

oh my bad, can do it Blanc SAnis instead, or slow Noah yes

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[upper grove]

I currently only have 1 full set of tetra defender gear: should I OL rumani or moran first? I guess Moran for CA, Rumani for SP?

[quick lake]

Rumani definitely. Moran not a must

[minor egret]

Blanc/S.Anis/RH/Helm/Biscuit did the trick. Thanks again for the suggestion

[quick lake]

Nice!! Congrats!

[umbral crown]

@polar echo you C6, pelg got you

[umbral crown]

Meanwhile my rumani 0 OL

[tropic summit]

you need scarlet and noah up to speed if you wanna improve your odds, get helm treasured asap aswell

scarlet: forces enemy to run bay or noah on 2RL, also punishes usage of feeding classes (AR, SGs, MGs etc)
noah: forces enemy to run anti noah comps, even more so if it's a 2RL noah it forces a lot of cards or to be skipped
helm treasured: can raise a team to 2RL easily, doubles down as ultra stall enabler

[tropic summit]

T3 is your issue, too much feed, that's a free scarlet team then opponent can skip T2 and run 2RL noah on T1

[tropic summit]

you can run the 2 easiest no brainer teams

2RL noah (either dps or nuke up to you)
2RL scarlet (deletes anything that doesn't have noah or bay on 2RL or indom on 2RL)

[brazen nova]

Im trying to upgrade Scarlet rn
Don't have Noah and Helm 😭
I can replace Scarlet with who if I'm upgrade her enough?

[tropic summit]

you can't really replace scarlet, the best nukers afterward are:

-reiT (1/1/7 minimun, needs at least 1 buffer)
-pmaid (4/4/7 minimun, needs 2 buffers, 1 of those being RH)
-cindy (not an instant nuker, so may not work in some scenarios)
-ein (mid nuker, works best as DPS post nuke or as indommed)
-RRH (same issue as Ein)

the short answer is: get scarlet up to speed, 10/7/10 SR5 20-30atk%

either way staying ch7-ch10 is still 2k gems, you're missing out on only 400 gems from ch4-ch6 range and another 300 gems from ch1 and ch3

in a year that's around 16k gems, not a deal breaker

[brave canyon]

what do you recommend for T3? also welcome back! you helped me last time too before I got scarlet

[brazen nova]

What I meant was, who will I replace with Scarlet once I upgrade her enough? Sorry about my previous wording, my English is a bit poor

[placid bloom]

btw does p5 Cindy decoy tank defense SGs or does she get skipped @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

scarlet siren trina centi jackal
noise centi cind helmt rumani
noah biscuit rapu s.anis laplace

this could give you an edge, might need to raise CP on some of the nikke involved before you can run it safely without tanking CP

a good addition would be building rosanna 7/10/10 SR5 on 30-40atk%, as that can boost further one of the 2 2RL teams (she breaks jackal links, prevents scarlet for the most part, adds attacker pressure)

[umbral crown]

How so Ein is mid nuke

[placid bloom]

I forgot if her nuke can be taunted or just the feathers after

[tropic summit]

just feathers

[brave canyon]

Okay, I'll work on building Rosanna then, I didn't prioritize her since I assumed she was for offense only and not defense as well. Should be up and running soon. Thanks again for the help @tropic summit

[umbral crown]

Imma make Ein nuke you

[tropic summit]

on defense it forces some cards out of opponent, better having her than not

[tropic summit]

i mean she's fine on double buff

[umbral crown]

Next CA Ein will nuke one of your teams

[tropic summit]

already got nuked by 2RL ein indom

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

Give RH, for 2 RL Ein

[tropic summit]

2RL reiT

[umbral crown]

ReT waiting for some investment yet

[brave canyon]

Sorry, just realized you put Centi twice, is there someone else you want me to use instead?

[tropic summit]

ye forgot to use maiden ice rose

scarlet xmaiden trina siren jackal

quantum on xmaiden, trina and jackal

centi can stay on cindy team

if CP difference isn't particularly big, you can use anis instead aswell to retain a tad faster speed

[knotty fern]

can ein nuke beat moran+biscuit+sanis? if ein get indom

[brave canyon]

done, thanks again

it's about a 5k cp diff

from xmaiden to anis

[tropic summit]

oh that'd be pretty good then

[tropic summit]

if siren is linked that team is pretty solid, try to have her having more atk% than trina

that way if opponent runs noah taunt priority you'll punish her regardless of positioning

as noah will taunt p1 and p2

[brave canyon]

she has more attack than trina so we good

[tropic summit]

oh perfect

[brave canyon]

[tropic summit]

if opponent used to run noah against that team, they'll start losing

[tropic summit]

nah s.anis will outheal

you need to kill s.anis before she gets to lifesteal

s.anis is great DPS post B3, you'll want her to die before she gets there

biscuit allows her to gain lifesteal, so it gets even worse

[tropic summit]

it's always the vlad

[shell hazel]

Railtracer

you defending your position? going for a snipe? 😮

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

@chilly furnace

[knotty fern]

im not sure if i can take out noah

[shell hazel]

I'd say you got a good chance, it's the only b2 and that team has no treasure helm so it's slow

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[shell hazel]

if noah dies or gets stunned they can't burst, you win

[swift mango]

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[shell hazel]

ugh my CA teams are making my head hurt, can't really do anything amazing with blanc :9

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[tropic summit]

put blanc with either biscuit locked teams or jackal

[shell hazel]

yeah I can put her with biscuit but it's getting the team to a reasonable 3RL that is harder :p

lack of rumani hurting some here

[tropic summit]

eh definitely

[umbral belfry]

rumani next 10 pull trust

[tropic summit]

rumani was supposed to spook hippo instead of mihara

[shell hazel]

yeah I'd have taken that as a win tbh

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

and yet here we are

[shell hazel]

well mihara didn't appear either 😦

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

Rail can I dm you my teams and whatnot? 😄

see if you see any obvious improvements

[tropic summit]

why DM just put them here

[shell hazel]

zant is here and he is in my bracket

we almost blew eachothers heads off in the final (the guy I lost to in the semi finals went on to lose to zant)

[tropic summit]

just change team order afterward

CA is pure RNG

[shell hazel]

I suppose 🙂

this is what I ran last time

team 5 is cope, team 1 was a bit weaker without my improvements for rosanna/drake but would fair a bit better on a re-do

[tropic summit]

mhm

there's quite a bit of gambling on T3 aswell

[shell hazel]

with siren present you mean? 3/4 didn't lose any matches at least

won all the ones I could see

[tropic summit]

no against SGs

noise dies within 1.5RL

then you're B1-less

[shell hazel]

I see

[tropic summit]

then again 1 chance out of 5 that team ends up against SGs anyway

[shell hazel]

team 2 did poorly, but not totally surprised

let me get upated unit images quick

I think I can build siren into the scarlet/trina team

frees up RH for elsewhere

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace

[shell hazel]

4 quantum cubes are on centi / jackal / xmaiden / trina atm

just level 5 though I think

[sleek imp]

chat im bouta spend 1k gem in sp arena for some competitve boarder 🤑

[tropic summit]

taking the balanced approach you could run this, else merge noah and cindy team to get a better T3 at the cost of running a crap T5

also don't run anis with biscuit and blanc as she'll steal indom if you've her on no invest at all

you can replace liter with siren if she's linked, else run siren in p3 and xmaiden in p2

you want trina and siren out of splash zone unless linked

alternatively you can weaken scarlet team by removing jackal and throwing in a rapunzel, that frees up jackal to mess around with a better biscuitless indom, then you can use biscuit in cindy or noah team and you can move mana further in any other team

[shell hazel]

I don't know if balanced works that well tbh, let me get my win rate out hold on

[tropic summit]

urawhat won with 5 balanced teams

just a matter of RNG in the end

[tropic summit]

these were his teams

[shell hazel]

I tracked the results just to see how it looks, team 1 was SG team and 5 was cope team, it did cope a few wins 😄

[tropic summit]

with the teams i gave you earlier you no longer have a cope team if anything

that 4RL team needs to go

[shell hazel]

sure, I mean I can full send it 🙂

[tropic summit]

after that just pray to RNG to not match you against counters

[shell hazel]

no damage done if I don't win. I'll probably adjust a couple of things

I dunno on drake p1 in sg team, she'll probably die, but she's probably the tankiest thing there

[tropic summit]

think you've very good chances to win, just need to get lucky

you can choose who you wanna burst with, soda or drake

pick ur best bet

assume p1 in most use cases will die pre 3RL or at least pre sacc

[shell hazel]

soda has no invest

drake has sr-15 and 8/8/8 skills, with one OL

[tropic summit]

then bsoda gonna be ur sacc

bsoda drake rosanna naga noir

[shell hazel]

best I could get between the runs

my siren is built OK she may link

especially with xmaiden present

[tropic summit]

check her atk% and then add the ol %

then compare with trina and xmaiden

[shell hazel]

sure one sec

i'll use blabla it should sum the atk % for me

yeah we're good, siren links, I can check in shooting range also

xMaiden - 17.99% | 44612
Trina - 11.81% | 48991```

so number after | is raw atk, and siren has the most in that + OL sum

[tropic summit]

oke

then run her p2, noah will taunt her

2RL noah would then be stunned for maximun stonks

[shell hazel]

worth noting my mana is not skill 10, 4/4/4 atm

[tropic summit]

ye that's fine

still 3RL