pvp-arena

[spiral onyx]

The best SP Arena def team currently is
...and ||deez nuts|| comp

[swift mango]

Most easy to beat as well

[quick lake]

All defence can be cracked

[swift mango]

It's just some teams you don't even need to think

[meager linden]

Ok, thx guys! Im try to come up with this 🙂

[quick lake]

Can do like, whacky Cindy Jackal teams, or 2RL Emi

[unique wagon]

Just need CS in last team and you counter Soda completely. Noise → Bay is decent.

Bay will Burst and protect the team from AoE.

[swift mango]

Like I need to counter Soda to beat the last team

[unique wagon]

What are you gonna use anyways

[swift mango]

2rl Emi nuke.

[unique wagon]

Rapipi/Emilia 2 RL?

[unique wagon]

Whats the team

[swift mango]

Emi+Blanc+RH+x+Jackal

Noah+Biscuit+Emi+RH+X is fine as well

[unique wagon]

Does that guarantee oneshot tho

[swift mango]

It's fine even if not one shot

[quick lake]

should ohko

[unique wagon]

This requires helmtr

You fumble the other teams

[swift mango]

Centi is enough

[unique wagon]

Says who

You wanna gamble Helm and Blanc who burst first?

[swift mango]

Equip quantum

[unique wagon]

Still takes 2 feed.

You only get 1 feed.

Well probably ~2.1 2.2 RL then

[swift mango]

Hmmm a Gamble on RH pierce I guess

[quick lake]

RH lucky pierce cover

Should easily feed 20 bullets

[covert lintel]

38% and you only need to equip quantum at jackal

[quick lake]

[unique wagon]

Gay

So how do u handle the other teams

Scar Trina HelmTr Jackal nuke?

Noah Noise team 1?

[quick lake]

Scar Soda
2.5RL Stall
yolo 38% Emi

ultimate SPA setup

[swift mango]

This is better I guess. 2 feeds ensure

[quick lake]

Miranda propaganda

[unique wagon]

Brave of you im sure its just 1 feed

[swift mango]

P1+2 linked

2 feeds ensured

[unique wagon]

Yeah but Helm is sniper rifle

I think far ahead

You think too shallow haiya

[radiant quiver]

I’m in SP arena facing an enemy team comprising of Morgan, Diesel, Helm with her favorite item, SR Anis, and Grave.

Can’t beat it with any of my 3 teams. I know Morgan and Helm w/ favorite item is probably the core of it but why is a SR Anis not a weakness? Are the other members just as insurmountable?

[quick lake]

Lowest feed is 18 pellets at 2RL

[unique wagon]

I ensured that team doesnt feed 20 hits to P1/P2 link

[swift mango]

HelmT and Noah is double shot per shot. So 2 and 4 feeds per reload respectively

[unique wagon]

Oh right wait is it?

[quick lake]

Cindy feeds slightly more. Assuming 20 pellets is fair

[unique wagon]

Well Noah I know does

[quick lake]

With Noah its +2 shots

[unique wagon]

Bros minmaxing in PvP

[unique wagon]

So how u beat the other teams

[quick lake]

Can counter with ScarJack

Like Scar Trina flex flex Jackal
or Scar Blanc RH Centi Jackal

[unique wagon]

I still think this might get sponged

[swift mango]

Against ASS we could go 2 taunt or buffed Cindy wipe

[quick lake]

Just scar jack all SGs

[swift mango]

Against Soda you already provided the solution

[unique wagon]

Who

You want to gamble faster Rosa?

[covert lintel]

win champion with this and your propaganda will be proven true

[quick lake]

Blood was pretty close

[unique wagon]

That team works tbf until it runs into 4 RL Noah somehow

Maybe I shud make a Blanc variant.

🤔

[covert lintel]

sadly no one will put 4RL noah in CA

[unique wagon]

Wow Nero Moran strat?

[swift mango]

Rosa is definitely faster and will normal attack Soda to death

[unique wagon]

Yeah tbf Idk who will win even with double taunters thats ur defense whats ur attack?

[raven plover]

my season 1 final had this as one of their team

[swift mango]

Your 3rd team perfectly counter your 1st team. You solved your own math for them.

[covert lintel]

i'm thinking to pair up naked pascal with rosanna in CA, will that work?

[unique wagon]

It is a stable team

Just countered by double buff Scar and 2 RL Cindy which is not exactly common anymore

[radiant quiver]

Thanks, so is SR Anis just a lure? A sort of false easy win appearance or does she play a useful role?

[quick lake]

Waste of 4 units

[raven plover]

ye that team facing trina scar

[quick lake]

SR Anis is there for the extra burst gen

[unique wagon]

He won cus Scar couldnt wipe?

[swift mango]

With quantum and cover piercing it's 3rl.

[raven plover]

nah he lost

[covert lintel]

lost to sg?

[raven plover]

scar trina rapun noir drake

[quick lake]

loses to everything

[spiral onyx]

Tbh all my CA team comp testing is teaching me that anything that's not 2RL at this point is too weak

[swift mango]

Everything is too weak when you got countered.

[covert lintel]

but i lost preliminary with 3 team of 2rl

[quick lake]

I liked it when the meta was just 3RL. No need to worry about 2RL

[raven plover]

wait can we still check CA teams

[swift mango]

But Hobo win with 1-2 teams of 2rl.

[spiral onyx]

I experimented with 2.5RL Cindy. It straight up went from one of the strongest teams at 2RL to one of the weakest at 2.5RL

[swift mango]

Because you didn't have Siren/Biscut in it

[raven plover]

ok gonna screenshot my season 2 finalist, basically 1st and 5th team are free wins but he made it to final, 2nd to 4th team carry him

[covert lintel]

he bribed the dev to fix match

[swift mango]

Hacked

[spiral onyx]

I mean, hard counters are hard counters
People keep asking me to update my "Countering the Meta" video but there's literally nothing to update, the types of teams we have today are effectively the same types of teams we had back then (just with different units) and the ways to counter them still has not changed

SG teams get hard countered by Scarlet Jackal, Makima, and Biscuit
SAnis teams get soft countered by Scarlet Jackal and sometimes Blanc teams
Scarlet and Cindy and any other AoE nuke teams get countered by Noah and Blanc teams
P1 Scarlet teams can get hard countered by Siren
Blanc teams get soft countered by SG or SR teams that lead to incorrect Blanc invulning

This isn't even including weird counters like OG Sakura soft countering Scalter

If in CA it was possible to pick your attack teams, you can result guarantee at least 3/5 wins. But because it's RNG def, you don't know. But anyone can get lucky and have perfect matchups or continual 3-2 wins all the way to the finals

[unique wagon]

Hang on I can make this better

CA team solved

Wait I can make this even better

[unborn latch]

whats the reasoning behind rumani being in slot 4? wouldnt the taunt feed?

[swift mango]

You have 38% Emi?

[unique wagon]

Only taunts during FB

[quick lake]

theoretical

[spiral onyx]

What happened to Cinderella lol

[swift mango]

What if she meet 3rl Noah?

[unique wagon]

After Noah fix shes easily counterable by at least 5 setups

[spiral onyx]

Also, Emilia Blanc isn't strong enough to win against properly geared opponents in a world of Tempering and Dolls

[quick lake]

she wont

[leaden canyon]

does Rosanna only target attackers or highest attack unit?

[swift mango]

How about 3-4rl Blanc?

[unique wagon]

Blanc luck, Noah, two AoE blocker setups, Moran Biscu lifesteal (if not Noah Cindy), etc.

[quick lake]

then die

[unborn latch]

viper needs an un- 🧱 button for her treasure

[unique wagon]

Surely 38% Emilia with 3 ELE 4 ATK and 1 ammo and Bastion will win.

[swift mango]

[unborn latch]

whats the consensus so far with mihara? is she valid as a sac or is it just cope

[spiral onyx]

Elemental only applies to fire. What fire units are you trying to kill in arena lol

[swift mango]

She is valid as boss killer

[leaden canyon]

[unborn latch]

oh is it? well nvm then

[unique wagon]

Rumani and Drake

And Bay I guess

[spiral onyx]

Only Blanc and Noah work there. The others aren't strong enough at lvl 400 synchro for CA. And Helm would get blocked by those two as well

[unique wagon]

And non 100% Nero

[swift mango]

Bet

[covert lintel]

that's me but 0ammo
i use noir instead to buff her ammo during full burst

[unique wagon]

Then its stall war anyways for Helm

[crystal flicker]

#pvp-arena message

[spiral onyx]

I remember doing the math for my matchup against Zero and, expectedly, his Cindy was just strong enough at lvl 400 synchro to kill my Moran buffed SR15 dolled SAnis (which it successfully did in the real fight). At higher synchros it falls short but at lvl 400 the attack stats from gear and doll is too much

[swift mango]

@grizzled bone why is this not pinned?

[unique wagon]

Thats why XMaiden exists

Just hope she eats Biscu

[quick lake]

Average pvp-er wont be building rosanna

[swift mango]

Still needing a damn pin

[leaden canyon]

my tired ass brain not putting together the answer from that

[swift mango]

Guess I will make a self pin then. To include all the comments I wanted to save.

Delta (outdate)
#pvp-arena message

Charge speed
#pvp-arena message

Rossana target
#pvp-arena message
#pvp-arena message (my own test and educated conclusion since Merry deleted his post)

Cindy's quirks (Noah interaction outdate and it's real time now)
#pvp-arena message

Jackal Feed
#pvp-arena message

MirandaT testes
#pvp-arena message

2.5 RL CS vs Siren, from the unit with fastest speed.
#pvp-arena message

2.5rl SG
#pvp-arena message

Vesti CS
#pvp-arena message

Burst gen units
#pvp-arena message

Centi and Poli's shield
#pvp-arena message

Noah delay (about 7 frame/60?)
#pvp-arena message

Teams in CA meta
#pvp-arena message

To deal with Moran Noah SW
#pvp-arena message

2nd self pin
#pvp-arena message

[covert lintel]

so still a few people realize that rosanna ftw

[spiral onyx]

Just show them all my CA videos of my Rosanna straight up double 1 shotting units left and right lol

[crystal flicker]

Correct me, but Rosa target attacker first, otherwise she'll follow order from P1

[leaden canyon]

ohhh is that how it works

[spiral onyx]

Lmao what did you guys do to earn the latest pin

[crystal flicker]

Though it'll take tons of investment to nuke Noah

[shell hazel]

nothing, admin gone wild

they posted that to some of the other channels as well

rather than addressing whatever the problem was they just painted all of us as naughty people who make fun of those asking questions 😛

[swift mango]

It's on all chat channels

[crystal flicker]

Seems so, Attacker(s) > P1 > P2 > P3 > P4 > P5

[shell hazel]

despite that many of us here help people for no tangible benefit in our free time

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/naughty-naughty-naughty-borat-gif-18882574

[shell hazel]

[leaden canyon]

alice gave some reasons in MA chat

[shell hazel]

we're not in MA chat

[leaden canyon]

oh right

[shell hazel]

not many MA's help people here even

some do (not saying all don't) but most don't do much pvp so understandable

[shell hazel]

I'm sorry they complain that people are using the chat to .. .chat?

[leaden canyon]

I think it's more that messages get buried by banter when somebody needs help

[shell hazel]

well the other problem is that pvp setups aren't simple, especially when you have people wanting 3 SPA teams or even 5 CA ones

so you're helping someone already and someone else also wants help, so they post their request, but you're already chatting to the person who asked before

so now they're thinking they're being ignored but in reality they entered in the middle of someone else already being assisted potentially

[worthy knoll]

Simple solution, just stop the non MA from helping and just leave it all to the MAs to answer 🏃‍♂️ 💨

[shell hazel]

yes that may actually be the best solution lol

[leaden canyon]

shoving more orders to me smh

[shell hazel]

you got this

[leaden canyon]

[spiral onyx]

@unique wagon You made me waste 100 gems for this -_-

[shell hazel]

what does being an MA get you out of interest? anything tangible?

do you get some kind of in-game rewards or something (gems?)

[leaden canyon]

well the reward we get like twice a year, it's merch that's mailed to us

[shell hazel]

I see

[leaden canyon]

but i joined before that was a thing so it's just like a perk to me

didn't join to get it

[shell hazel]

yeah, I mean many of us been helping people pro-bono

and I don't want to have to hit quotas or anything so I wasn't really interested in even trying to join it

was mainly helping people as and when I felt like it type of deal

[leaden canyon]

they made a point system to kinda track how helpful we are being. instead of just giving quick answers, explains the details of the help we are giving will give us more points

[placid bloom]

SGs don't skip over p5 Cinderella right? Just p1?

[shell hazel]

but in effect if the mods have an issue with the way people are helping (for free) then I will step back from trying to do as much personally

[leaden canyon]

p5 will be shot once at the start and then p1 will be focused. this is if you are attacking

[placid bloom]

for defense

[leaden canyon]

defending team p4 and 5 will target attacker p5 and p4

[placid bloom]

I wasn't sure if Cinderella decoy was skipped or not by SGs

[leaden canyon]

idk honestly if it is or not in that situation

[placid bloom]

cuz I see people putting her p5 but I wasn't sure if that actually worked or not

if they just shoot p4 anyway

[leaden canyon]

I usually put her p4

that's to avoid rl splash on clone

but with sg targeting yeah not sure how that works with her clone

[crystal flicker]

Maybe not P5 Def
But after HelmT die, SG target Cindy's decoy and P1
#pvp-arena message

[placid bloom]

p1 because Noise taunt, so no skip over p4 but I still want to know if p5 decoy can soak SG or not

if it does it changes team building a lot

[crystal flicker]

[swift mango]

@keen vapor do you?

Now why is this comment not allowed?

I mean, is the title responsibility free or nah?

[leaden canyon]

well we are kinda held to a higher standard for how we interact with the community

[swift mango]

What standard

[leaden canyon]

like don't spread miss information and don't misbehave type stuff

it could get you demoted

[swift mango]

What if you spread info that is wrong but u think it right?

[leaden canyon]

it can happen, in which case you learn from it and correct it

[swift mango]

Eh then it's like everyone else on this chat.

Or if don't you spread anything helpful at all for months?

[leaden canyon]

if you basically don't help for a while then yeah you get demoted too

[swift mango]

I see

[leaden canyon]

that's what happened with kanna because he quit the game

[swift mango]

Then you could make 1 helpful comment a month to keep the title?

[leaden canyon]

lmao no

that goes back to the point system

[shell hazel]

are you rank 1 Dair?

best MA 2025 😄

[swift mango]

I barely see him here

[leaden canyon]

we don't know how the system actually looks just that there is one and they kinda explained how it works

[leaden canyon]

im team building resident

[shell hazel]

which MA does post here regularly? Echo?

[swift mango]

There are tons of them. I think I saw thien on that chat more

[swift mango]

AlexAI is MA now I think

[shell hazel]

it's much easier to do, you can learn all you need to do it just by playing. pvp meta game is almost like a game within the game

not everyone cares for it or invests into learning it

[swift mango]

Nvm he is not

[leaden canyon]

yeah back when team building was also the pvp channel, I did pvp and pve cooks on the fly at the same time

[shell hazel]

rail has been carrying the cooks in this channel more or less and isn't MA either tbh

[swift mango]

He said he refused the MA title

[shell hazel]

can't really say I blame him, higher standards to uphold 🙂

[swift mango]

Now we know why.
Team build has tons of MA so you could be lazy.
If he is MA here he would feel the responsibility to cook all days.
_

2nd self pin

Possible reasons why you are level bricked
#pvp-arena message

Deal with Noah
#pvp-arena message

Vesti CS, try nikke.top
#pvp-arena message

...
..Place holder

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

Merry was also MA but he is also not now

[worthy knoll]

Its Zixk, I never was MA

[swift mango]

I think I saw u with the title once

Maybe you didn't even notice?

[grizzled bone]

Merry has never been in the program

You have to apply

[swift mango]

Okay it's definitely caishen

Can't be wrong about it

[shell hazel]

for this are they saying that the content of #questions is high quality btw? I'm confused

honestly every time I've been in that channel it's the most nonsense one of all the question related channels 😄

[swift mango]

#question is high quality

[shell hazel]

at least team building has a focus of sorts

[swift mango]

Question is just a chat room

[leaden canyon]

I was confused as well lol

[grizzled bone]

Sometimes the PvP channel is dead though so I wonder what the context of that is. For the old regulars that no longer participate as much this was the channel we felt safe to banter in

[shell hazel]

right my point also, if the chat isn't that busy I don't see the issue

it's not like discord will run out of chat lines or something for us to use

[swift mango]

I think this comment is basically nonsense

[grizzled bone]

For additional context from the messages Dair forwarded, they are referring to why our channel has slow mode on compared to team building for example

But I do think that's slightly unfair

[shell hazel]

they low-key calling out @spiral onyx for this? 😄

[leaden canyon]

it also all did stem from people wondering about the new pin message

[shell hazel]

and kisenix, actually theirs is worse #pvp-arena message

but again if no other people chatting it's just multi line messages not really harming anyone

[swift mango]

I mean, we could talk nonsense in Team building and Arena but we help out more than Question which is basically a chatroom that doesn't help much at all.

[shell hazel]

not calling you out Keripo here it doesn't bother me just funny they have issues with people using more than one line to chat, or using the channel to chat too much?

[grizzled bone]

Lol yeah that was me

[swift mango]

The MA that's here often are @fathom rock and @keen vapor I guess

[shell hazel]

ah yeah retro does a fair bit

[swift mango]

He is still in the process of learning.

Dude is PvE focused.

But he did new units tests like Mihara because he could spare the resourcr for that.

That's what make him good ma I guess

[shell hazel]

yeah he's def helpful

but other people help a lot also

[swift mango]

Mihara suck anyway. Thanks to him for proving that.

[quick lake]

To be fair, the advice given in pvp is of decent quality 👀

[shell hazel]

yeah, midhara is real

[quick lake]

Maybe that's why Rail likes to type one whole paragraph to avoid slow mode

[grizzled bone]

PvP is also more complicated team building imo because the mode is more nuanced

[shell hazel]

can't blame him, busy man 🙂

[grizzled bone]

So people might not get the help they want right away but at least the quality is higher

[quick lake]

Blood stopped cooking

[swift mango]

Team building is now only hot during Solo raid or Union raid. People come there to ask question about Campaign and AI on normal day.

[shell hazel]

look forward to CA team building again in 2-3 days

[swift mango]

I cooked twice today.

Or thrice

[shell hazel]

breakfast and lunch doesn't count 😄

[swift mango]

Because no one else does.

[swift mango]

I cooked 3 teams. But only type them out in 3 mins rather than use sheet or pictures

There is not many people asking for help today but no one cooking either

[quick lake]

If the non-MAs pvp-ers in this channel stopped cooking, this channel is cooked

[swift mango]

Just call Echo.

That's his responsibility

[covert lintel]

you should become MA

[quick lake]

Laze

[swift mango]

Yeah you should be MA. You don't talk nonsense half the time like me.

Go apply

[quick lake]

[umbral crown]

She wins

[swift mango]

Okay apply for MA Rosy. Take responsibility to steal all the doro.

[umbral crown]

Rheax next MA

[umbral crown]

I thought to become one some time ago

[swift mango]

But why aren't you stealing the doro anymore?

[swift mango]

@leaden canyon Could you list out your which merch they send you, brother? We could motivate Rheax and Rosy to apply for MA.

I'm outside of standard anyway.

[leaden canyon]

lol. hold on let me see if I still have the pictures

[crystal flicker]

It's acrylic stand

And some other stuff

[grizzled bone]

Some of its leftover merch from last half and anniversary

[umbral crown]

Was sleeping

[grizzled bone]

Oh nice you got the eye masks

[umbral crown]

Waos

[leaden canyon]

I have two posters

[umbral crown]

[leaden canyon]

the guillotine image is one of them

[swift mango]

Go Apply @umbral crown

[crystal flicker]

https://www.amiami.com/eng/detail/?gcode=FIGURE-182801
Maybe someday they'll give this

[covert lintel]

i think this info isn't real time

[umbral crown]

But i do not make guides

[leaden canyon]

neither do i

[umbral crown]

But you expert

[grizzled bone]

Its not, there's a delay

[umbral crown]

[leaden canyon]

correct

[swift mango]

Just need to steal all the doro And cook

[covert lintel]

thanks for confirm it

[leaden canyon]

I just help in the channels

I so give input to some guides when asked but that's the extent to guides for me

[grizzled bone]

I dont make guides either

[umbral crown]

I just know pvp

Cai can confirm

[covert lintel]

i rarely see rosy cook now

[leaden canyon]

speaking of pvp i need new sp arena

I have run out of ideas

[umbral crown]

was giving echo time to shine

[leaden canyon]

i don't have mana and have not built soda

[swift mango]

You are cooked

[crystal flicker]

You need Soda

[leaden canyon]

is she still that good even with siren now

[umbral crown]

But you keep checking the teams people use in CA?

[swift mango]

They can be in 2 teams

[grizzled bone]

Echo needs to earn his keep

[umbral crown]

Some people use interestin teams there

[leaden canyon]

for SP? I only use siren in scarlet team so far

[umbral crown]

Yeah, indeed

[swift mango]

I don't have the CP to use Soda in SP.

[umbral crown]

But you not gonna use soda lv1

[leaden canyon]

I made it top 8 with no mana, soda and viper treasure.

[umbral crown]

[leaden canyon]

if you built soda for pvp what are her skills going to be at

[swift mango]

Someone made it to champ without anyway of that even

[umbral crown]

I heard 4/4/4 works fine, have not used her much yet

[leaden canyon]

I lost rock paper scissors for team set up

[umbral crown]

That was me last s2

Just could top 16

[swift mango]

We all do.b

[glad meteor]

Top 4 without scar

Only to get cooked by scar

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

Blood MA

[swift mango]

I talk nonsense half the time. Way below standard.

[umbral crown]

But that helps to keep the channel alive

[quick lake]

Channel only active during CA

[shell hazel]

no we did too many messages apparently for the channel 😛

[swift mango]

Just like Team building only active during raid

[quick lake]

teambuilding alot of yapping too

[shell hazel]

#questions is what we should aspire to

[umbral crown]

Si

Even the channel is more active than my sp

[covert lintel]

i help a little during CA betting but my trustworthy score is 1/10

[umbral crown]

17 days ago a boi tried to attack me

[shell hazel]

hope you stole their doro

[umbral crown]

Already stolen

[shell hazel]

my last def was 8d ago, before that 38d

someone ruined my nice month long gap 😄

[quick lake]

What is this afk spa

[shell hazel]

it's weird, people could challenge me with similar cp certainly but they don't seem to want to

so we just chilling in top 1-4 as is 😄

[placid bloom]

it's too tryhard to swing for arena voucher if you get the same gems

[shell hazel]

new season sometimes sees some change up

[placid bloom]

people get lazy

especially if there's nobody moving up from 4-6

[shell hazel]

but yeah 1-4 are getting into CA and it's only 300 gems less at 4

[umbral crown]

[quick lake]

Im usually rank 4

[shell hazel]

good enough 🙂

will see what reshuffle brings, maybe some new whales enter the chat

[umbral crown]

Loses were against the 447 wheel

[placid bloom]

I think I only dropped to rank 4 this season because someone is finally using gems to swing

nobody used to gem before

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

[unique wagon]

Your Laplace tickles

Its still a stall war tho

I guess Laplace damage is too weak

Maybe someone else can DPS better

[upper grove]

Imagine having dead sp bracket

[unique wagon]

I think sync 880 is not a good test though

I originally thought of using DrakeTr instead of Bay

Actually Im dumb. Noise P1 can already counter Siren

[primal charm]

nah you cant stall again a helm comp without imunity

[turbid oyster]

whats the best general pvp one can build right now

these are the only nikke i don't have

[primal charm]

here

[primal charm]

no trina

[turbid oyster]

she that good ?

[primal charm]

she the best

[turbid oyster]

can u give me a example comp ?

i will work towards it

[primal charm]

click at the mess i mention above sir

he already serve a good one

you still can use classic scarlet blanc redhood comp

instead of scar trina

[turbid oyster]

do u have a pic of that ?

[quick lake]

Check FAQ teams

[primal charm]

explain the positioning of 1st comp sir

[quick lake]

#pvp-arena message

[swift mango]

[upper grove]

someone pin this

[swift mango]

Caishen did

Check his newest pinned comment

[upper grove]

oh neat

[swift mango]

[upper grove]

propaganda team ideas

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

I used 200 gem this season so basically rank 4.

I was in a bad mood, tired and some dude broke my def with his siren. So I had to rebuild twice.

Already used 2 hits for the day before that.

[quick lake]

me too. Used some gems, oh well

[umbral crown]

Imagine having fun in sp

Could not be me

[swift mango]

The problem is that I don't need to use it to hold my rank.

[fiery parcel]

Not sure about t1

[swift mango]

Hmm you could try the @spare brook way and put one team full of blue nikke for a day.

[swift mango]

Depending on your Ammo count. But probably win.

[swift mango]

Oh wait, deficit, may lose.

[upper grove]

yep deficit

[fiery parcel]

Yeap lost

Sadge

[swift mango]

May as well replace XMaiden with RH.

[fiery parcel]

Next time. Hopefully will hold on to rank 4 till reset

[swift mango]

Bruh 20 ammo Scar

[umbral crown]

Forcin them to fight Ein and nero

[fiery parcel]

Barely hanging on

[swift mango]

Can just gem it

[fiery parcel]

Hahaha. My scar has no good lines for pvp

So swap xmaiden with rhood?

[unique wagon]

Soda in P1 is Anti Siren

[swift mango]

Yes. At least get in range...

[fiery parcel]

Ok 100 gems used? Can this cook?

[swift mango]

Could use RH+Trina instead of RH+Blanc if you are confident enough. Not every safe either way

[covert lintel]

you are too op so no one challenge you

[fiery parcel]

SwAp blanc with another RL? Is laplace better?

Higher CP

[swift mango]

LapT with treasure?

[fiery parcel]

Yes. But CP wise only 1k higher than blanc

[swift mango]

Quantum on Trina, jack, Lap

[unique wagon]

Last team wont work

[fiery parcel]

Last team is being ignored. Just trying to win on t1 and t2

[swift mango]

Well, with Trina you go for a wipe before they burst so just hope your scarlet strong enough

And not getting face tank

[fiery parcel]

I can bring scarlet to 10/10/7 from 10/7/7. Trina is 4/4/7

[swift mango]

Trina need her skill 2. Skill 3 can be uninvested. Scar is the other way around.

[fiery parcel]

If i can bring anyone from t3 to t1 to be better, thats good

[swift mango]

So bring Trina s2 to 10 instead

[fiery parcel]

Sorry trina is 4/7/7

Scar is 10/7/7

[unique wagon]

Time to run Mihara sac

[fiery parcel]

Gonna try it now

[unique wagon]

U shud win

[fiery parcel]

Hopefully will stay there till reset

Yes. Tq. Top of group

[umbral crown]

you think so

[merry agate]

Hello. Can i ask how to counter this team?

[pale knoll]

Rookie or Spa?

[merry agate]

I use emi nuke but lose

[merry agate]

Rookie

[pale knoll]

Rumani noise Cindy thelm noah should do

[merry agate]

Ok i'll try

[unique wagon]

The brainded way is Soda Trina Centi Scarlet Jackal.

The elegant way is using Siren and Scarlet.

The smart/normal way is 2 RL Scarlet with Trina and RH.

Sigma move is Blanc with Rapipi or Emilia + RH. Add MirandaTr for more flavor

[covert lintel]

@swift mango sigma

[unique wagon]

The fun move is using Mihara sac (actually trolling).

[merry agate]

Ok i see

[swift mango]

p1 defender + flex non defender + biscuit + ASS + flex (need 1 burst 1)

[pale knoll]

Did you lose? 👀

[merry agate]

I try tomorrow, my attempt done for today

[pale knoll]

Oh alright 👍

[swift mango]

Yes that's me.

I will probably go with

Moran+Blanc+Emi+Biscuit+Miranda/Crown though. No need to use clip RL here...

[grizzled bone]

Mods are the ones who pin stuff I just curate. Also Rosanna is a pretty niche unit and her importance is pvp is less emphasized now that we have so many attack options and the changing landscape of pvp

anything else you'd like to see?

[eternal finch]

Any recs vs these teams? T2 wins but T3 is a 50/50 nowadays.

[knotty fern]

helm burst before scarlet if same rl?

[tropic summit]

yeah should me, nothing should've changed

[keen vapor]

I'm invincible

[spiral onyx]

I tried out the secret Mihara tech. Was not expecting this result lol

[keen vapor]

@unique wagon

[spiral onyx]

This is more like it

[keen vapor]

I JUST INVESTED HER

[spiral onyx]

Time to record a showcase video
(Pretty sure it's a bug btw, don't depend on it)

[keen vapor]

About time

[covert lintel]

for T3

[keen vapor]

No Trina?

[spiral onyx]

Shoo shoo I've been busy CA cooking. Currently on Cook #23

[keen vapor]

same on my SP defense

-# I don't count

[leaden canyon]

if this is getting beat what changes should I do in SP? I have also done 2Rl cindy on the noah team.

scar team should be 2RL because jackal feed I believe

[keen vapor]

Quantums sir

Don't tell me you only have 3 slots

[leaden canyon]

4 slots

The blanc team has 4

I got 5 slots actually

[keen vapor]

Centi jackal please

[leaden canyon]

I'm pretty sure its still 2RL because jackal feed isn't it?

[keen vapor]

Then again, this is getting beaten

[keen vapor]

Or random scar procs should be

[covert lintel]

rosanna will lose like this because trina in p2

[keen vapor]

[leaden canyon]

I got SR 5 doll on trina and tempering, maybe she can squeak out?

That is kinda oof though

[keen vapor]

I'm thinking they're beating first teams

We should speed up second team

[leaden canyon]

See I thought that too but I kept everything the same but changed from 2RL cindy to what you see and I won

So one of my other teams is winning

idk which though

[keen vapor]

I did put my suspect on rookie defense

[leaden canyon]

I know my opponent has a built rosanna, soda and siren

[keen vapor]

-# Caution: Enemies can learn

[leaden canyon]

idk if moran is getting stunned before her burst or not

[keen vapor]

For now do the position adjustment

Rosanna P1

[keen vapor]

And try..... Emilia nuke

It can be speed up with Noir instead of Scarlet Black Shadow

[covert lintel]

i think you need to speed up team 2
make it 2.5 at least

[keen vapor]

Not Moran
Fastest stun is B2 for 2RL teams

Not B1

Not before it's burst

[keen vapor]

Yes, Emilia nuke with Noir replacement is 2.5

[leaden canyon]

I guess I can put a qunatum on trina

[leaden canyon]

2.5 not possible unless I remove either hood or biscuit

I dont have 17% on any of my RL units that are not emilia

scar team is at 98.62% so with jackal feed that should be 2RL

[eternal finch]

Ingot Trina

[keen vapor]

Try the team you got suggested

Huh, did I dream it?

[keen vapor]

I'm sure I used to do it that way

[keen vapor]

If your Blanc has SR5/temperance you can also go for 2 RL no Biscuit

[modest summit]

Hey my PVP teams are suddenly getting beat, I got siren and trina and some others now, what teams can I make for SP arena ?

[leaden canyon]

k

[covert lintel]

i think biscuit is more useful with moran, so you can change it to rumani to speed up team 2

[hot birch]

How to counter sp arena 🫡

Ok i will try thanks

[keen vapor]

Sir, you're bricking Noah
And if you're changing order then Noah could get stunned

[hot birch]

What unit is ASS

[fathom rock]

Anis sparkling summer

[hot birch]

Lol oh ok

It works: lose-win-win. Unfortunately, I don't have Moran build, but that's not the row that lost. Probably need to pick the right RL unit for the first T1.

[strange linden]

what's the best comp against this one?

[hot birch]

Cindy noah

It's definitely my clueless self fault. But thanks tho. I'll try different unit later again

[spare nimbus]

Thoughts?

[strange linden]

can I replace rapunzel by THelm, I have more than 15.40% decifit lol

actually would that work despite the scarlet having indom? I tried before with cindy and they all died because of that

I was worried if RH would burst but they instantly died because of the shared dmg lmao

thanks, it was a really annoying comp to deal with at high deficit

[spare nimbus]

Which is better?

[rustic sandal]

Current SP team. Any suggestions to improve/optimize the lineup?

[hollow lagoon]

if ur noise dies in team 1 then ur done

[sudden leaf]

I'm so unsure about attacking this - there's no real way to know for certain who siren will stun, is there? since the units apparently switch when their target reloads/takes cover and she stuns on what... her 40th bullet?

[rustic sandal]

What do you think would be the best way to safeguard that from happening

[hollow lagoon]

use another b1

instead of sbs

[hollow lagoon]

use a taunter

but she will go for ur left most unit mostlikely

[rustic sandal]

Should I take out treasure laplace for sbs then?

[sudden leaf]

my small brain didn't even consider that 😄

[rustic sandal]

Thoughts on using siren for t1

[hollow lagoon]

if ur cp padding maybe?

[hollow lagoon]

my thoughts: i won last champ arena with her as b1 for one of my teams

Conclusion is probably viable

[rustic sandal]

Ok I'll try that out then. Tysm for the help! ❤️

[hollow lagoon]

That’s a stall team with helm bursting, very interesting not sure what Cinderella is there for, but no biscuit so best counter is a nuke with your own siren to stun their Noah, their burst chain can’t complete and they die

[spare nimbus]

Maybe noah, scarlet, rapunzel, trina, jackal?

Noah will get stunned and trina can burst

[hollow lagoon]

Jackal scarlet Trina siren helmT

Their siren feed jackal

[spare nimbus]

O wait i forgot he has noah shield

[hollow lagoon]

And stunning jackal is irrelevant

Since siren is b1 so she can still burst

So they either feed jackal fast enough and u burst before their noah, or ur siren stun Noah and u can burst whenever

And you don’t feed as much as they do because their Noah draw fire away from jackal

That’s my theory anyway

Alternate way is use Nero Moran stall

But position Rapunzel to take the stun

[gaunt viper]

The fact that people will gem despite reset being in less than an hour. I don't understand such waste

guess it must be cause season ends soon but still

[keen vapor]

My Nero Moran doesn't works why they took away skill reset

[lone sequoia]

moran burst 10, sr15/S1 lv10 on nero and good cs for helm/rapu

[covert lintel]

isn't p2 noah fine?

[keen vapor]

For Siren

[covert lintel]

normally siren will atk moran right?
unless atker put siren to p2, noah p2 will be fine

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

moran taunt happens after noah noah taunt is every attack hit, moran is like 60 hit or last bullet i cant recall

[sleek imp]

wtf I cant win against his team 3 no matter what

[hollow lagoon]

looks like u didnt get to burst

[covert lintel]

noah taunt without burst is only affect p1 and p2
so putting noah in p2 won't get stunned by siren

unless the atker purposely put her(siren) in p2

[hollow lagoon]

why wont noah get stunned by siren?

noah will always taunt s

so siren will shoot noah

[covert lintel]

siren will not target noah except she(siren) is placed in p1 or p2

[umbral crown]

feels weird investing skills on sbs but not using her in CA

[hollow lagoon]

does noah's taunt not work O.o

[covert lintel]

lord rosy will help you understand my meaning

[hollow lagoon]

or does noah only taunt 1 unit

[umbral crown]

time to rset sbs?

[covert lintel]

how can you do kraken without sbs then

[hollow lagoon]

prob evangelion duo

[umbral crown]

i do not know

auto and hope for the best?

will hope not regret maxing S1 and burst today

but in 6 months anything can be changed

[keen vapor]

You're getting stage 7 right?

[umbral crown]

i barely get stage 5

if lucky

[hollow lagoon]

i only get stage 6

but i'm projecting stage 7 in 10 levels

[umbral crown]

thats the best i can do with my bricked pve units

[knotty fern]

can 2rl helm beat 2rl scarlet without getting nuke from her?

[umbral crown]

if you use noah then yes

[hollow lagoon]

if scarlet is highest attack and u are slightly faster

[knotty fern]

so i need noah

ew then

bay enough?

[umbral crown]

you need a B2 which can protect you

bay works

[hollow lagoon]

bay prob not enough

damage share is not that great against scarlet mang

[true tiger]

is it winnable ? or will they one shot my unit ?

[hollow lagoon]

are u the 240k?

[true tiger]

yep

[hollow lagoon]

well u win

they literal have level 1 units

[true tiger]

but the level diff won't it make it so that my nikke get one shoted ?

[hollow lagoon]

ur jackal have biscuit

bro just attempt it

[true tiger]

yep, I won thx

I can't believe it, I finnaly went above the 1K score in rookie lmao

I've been below the 1k mark for 4months

[hollow lagoon]

gratz

wow sim overclock is water code again

ezzzzzyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[keen vapor]

ok

[dire root]

lol he changed his team comp in response to losing once. That may have been the first time he lost a rookie fight in a month.

[leaden canyon]

Now he just dies to a 2RL nuke

ez

[umbral crown]

just try it, you not gonna lose an arm

[dire root]

I don't have a nuke

so he is still pretty safe.

[leaden canyon]

ah damn

No cindy, scarlet, maidpriv or harran?

ein works too

[dire root]

Rei T, Harran, Maidpriv, Ein I think I tried a Rei T buffed by redhood and crown but it wasn't enough.

[leaden canyon]

Need blanc

[dire root]

Biscuit is shielding so many nikkes stopping them from being nuked.

[true tiger]

as a filler team for SP, whiich one should I use ?
1st got 273K cp
2nd got 234k cp

[dire root]

[umbral crown]

[dire root]

I'm just tired of Cindy being in pvp

she always wins

[true tiger]

didn't you win this one ?

[dire root]

barely with a massive defict, but they added Siren for more combat power I didn't think the same defict team would work again I guess I should have tried it.

[true tiger]

how much cp on both side ?

[true tiger]

how you got more cp with lv 203 compared to lv 227 ?

[dire root]

Lots of SR 15 dolls.

[true tiger]

nice

[dire root]

4 of the defict team I use have SR 15s

[true tiger]

I ain't even got a single SR doll lmao

[dire root]

They cower in the face of my combat power muhahaha

[true tiger]

my luck is horrendous :x

[dire root]

Well expect Cindy, even heavy defict struggles to stop Cindy.

[true tiger]

I just used all my maintenance kit (started at 20%, used 160 of them so 16x) so with the incrementation and still didn't get the star up on a R doll lmaos

ended up with a level 3 doll x)

is this shit viable ? because I feel like I'm cooking yet at the same time it seems so bad

[placid bloom]

you're bursting with Noir so not really, unless you really want to

Alice is okay

just remember you're shooting back to front with her, so if the threat is closer to the front it'll take more time to get there

[true tiger]

swap alice and noir ?

also what about replacing pepper and using morran on position 1 ?

[wise horizon]

this looks good to go? left side vs right side

[placid bloom]

you're gonna be a lot slower with Moran

[true tiger]

I see, but having alice in position 2 I'm afraid that she'll die before bursting

is this better ? I placed anis in p1 because she's a defender

[placid bloom]

Anis is usually squishy since she's SR

this team as a whole is pretty squishy

[true tiger]

yeah it's a more of a filler team

for atk

it's looking like this

[placid bloom]

RH isn't bursting in the last team because Jackal is p1

I'd just move Anis to a faster team

and XMaid to the Cinderella team too since she buffs elec

[true tiger]

to where ?
and what would I replace Xmaid with ?

[wise horizon]

@placid bloom if you have a chance. could you check if mine is ok?

[true tiger]

is this better @placid bloom

[placid bloom]

this should give you double 2RL team, third team can be Biscuit stall with whatever you have left

[true tiger]

RH B1 and B3 ?

[placid bloom]

looks fine, unless the enemy team 2 is somehow fast enough to Blanc before you Scar wipe them

[placid bloom]

yeah, unless you want to SBS instead and go Pepper Viper SBS

[wise horizon]

ok thanks

[placid bloom]

either way is fine, if you want to go slower with Biscuit it's okay too if you know you're attacking into something that can be Biscuit walled

[true tiger]

it's just that since she is in second position and viper in p1(squishy) I thought she might die and not be able to burst

[placid bloom]

I set it that way because Viper + p2 is attacker, so they will have higher Atk than Anis + Pepper (supporter) so they will be linked to Jackal p5

[true tiger]

I see

[placid bloom]

which p2 you use is up to you, SBS kills the enemy a little faster imo

[true tiger]

btw what does a biscuit stall comp looks kile :x

does something like blanc/biscuit/sbs/B1/and idk works ?

[placid bloom]

if you have Blanc then I wouldn't build the team 2 like that

I'd rather use Biscuit Blanc

[true tiger]

?

I put privaty on B3 for the stun x)

but idk if I'll have enough dmg

maybe swap siren and razpunzel so that if someone die she revives ?

[signal hull]

You won't have enough burst gen to stun anything, that's for sure...

[true tiger]

yeah I should be like 5 or 6RL

[placid bloom]

hmm you're missing a good RL for team 3 to be 2RL, and it'll depend on whether Viper is linked to Jackal or Noir is.

not sure if you have Rumani or something

[calm zealot]

Seeking assistance building 3 teams for both the pvp arenas

[true tiger]

nope I'm missing the good one 😢 no rumani, no trina, no scarlet, no Sanis, no Noah

[placid bloom]

unfortunately team 3 probably just gonna suck

[true tiger]

yeah that's why my base comp is focused on 2 teams and the 3rd one is blank just to tank enemy best team

[placid bloom]

I can use the Jackal on team 1

if you're okay with doing a little less damage

[true tiger]

team 1 got cindy to nuke everything anyway

[wanton island]

your lack of faith in drunklet's ability offends me (im kidding obviously)

[swift mango]

No reset needed today, what magic.

[grizzled bone]

How's your gear supply looking these days?

[knotty nymph]

What should I have for my PVP comp? Both for Rookie and Special

[knotty nymph]

Alice is at 164146 combat power and (although things changed) Trina is my lowest unit with 67003 combat power

[tropic summit]

liter dkw cind centi helmt
scarlet blanc rh emilia jackal
noah biscuit sbs laplace noise

cubes

quantum on emilia, jackal
vigor on blanc, noise, biscuit
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

your investiment is a bit off everywhere, consider raising CP/investing in the nikke attached in the SS

also:

helmT needs to have s1 lvl 10
scarlet needs to be 10/4/10, SR5-SR15, 20-30atk% recommended
trina needs to be 4/7/7 to be used with scarlet, or 4/4/7 to be used with cinderella
get jackal, biscuit, blanc,noah to SR5

[tropic summit]

noise centi cind helmt rumani
scarlet blanc rh emilia jackal
noah biscuit rapu sbs laplace

cubes

quantum on emilia, jackal
vigor on noise, blanc, rapu, biscuit
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube available

consider investing in the nikke attached in SS, particularly trina, noah, centi, jackal, biscuit, emilia, noise

scarlet needs to be 10/7/10 SR5-SR15, 20-30% atk OL
biscuit, jackal and noah should be asap SR5
consider SR5'ing centi, rumani, trina afterward

[knotty nymph]

Centi not with quantum?

[tropic summit]

that's not for you, this one is for you

#pvp-arena message

[knotty nymph]

I see

[swift mango]

Not good.

[calm zealot]

yea my investing is a tad off but lately been trying to max everything sss and moving down from there

[knotty nymph]

I just got Trina, and I've been trying to invest into Noah, Biscuit, etc

[tropic summit]

ye get those pvp core units properly built and you should increase your odds of climbing

[knotty fern]

is siren better to use in nuke team?

[tropic summit]

you want siren to counter an enemy bursting with p1 B2 or B3 (or taunt priority noah in any position)

avoid using her against scarlet as she'll likely suicide in that case

[knotty fern]

whats a good option against moran+biscuit+sanis 3rl team that is on the same speed and not 2rl or 2.5

[knotty nymph]

How much should I build rumani?

I have her at 4/4/4

[tropic summit]

4/4/4 R15 or SR5

[knotty fern]

other than mirror matchup

[knotty nymph]

Okay, so I got that

[tropic summit]

you either scarlet that team or indom emilia, else just skip it

[knotty nymph]

Not the doll yet

[knotty fern]

can shotgun team win against scarlet with jackal?

if no blanc

or do i need rosa for that

[tropic summit]

you don't use shotguns against scarlet

just post your enemy teams makes it easier

[knotty fern]

well i saw sg team beating scarlet team

that scarlet on p1

[tropic summit]

in general you shouldn't SG scarlet, as a built scarlet will kill all of those SGs

if it's a bricked one might work

[knotty fern]

i saw a video of scarlet getting rekt before they can even b1

why not use sg on scarlet if is doable

even invested scarlet

[tropic summit]

i mean do what you want then

keep running SG against their counter 👍

i aint gonna stop you

[raven plover]

[grizzled bone]

That was a dark day here

[tropic summit]

wait till you hear how many rocks he threw at his scarlet

[grizzled bone]

Because in most cases its not like Railtracer explained

[shell hazel]

Railtracer I corrected my Rosanna some in time for CA, but sadly DrakeT is not possible due to bond level 😦

[tropic summit]

what's her skill lvl, doll and OL now?

[shell hazel]

brace yourself

hopefully you are sitting down

[tropic summit]

if anything better than 1/1/1 at least

[shell hazel]

7/10/7 | R-15 doll | 2 OL

[grizzled bone]

Scarlet est généralement associé à Jackal. Vous rendriez l'autre équipe ennemie plus rapide et tueriez vos propres unités

[shell hazel]

I can't SR-5 I lack the right doll to swap over to atm

OL is just normal time gated stuff I gotta build those out more still. I actually have to go back and OL Liter a bit for 20 hard mode as well 😄

[tropic summit]

hmm it's decent tho

can now benefit properly from sacc

she lacks dmg output although will work to still add threat

[shell hazel]

drake is more usable as well (8/8/8 with SR-15) but yeah no hope of treasure this cycle, next time I should be ready

[keen vapor]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAT?!

[tropic summit]

the real bait was moran all along

[keen vapor]

Now I have to max skill 1 as well

[tropic summit]

💰

all in

[keen vapor]

I think I won't invest Mihara for this raid

[shell hazel]

skills are at least less of an issue now, not zero issue but it feels more possible to actually invest a bit 😛

[tropic summit]

no reason to, 3% here we come

[keen vapor]

Rocks are issue bc champ arena didn't give it as rewards

Not like I'm champ yet but....

[keen vapor]

Invested Modernia will save me

[valid fern]

Are there any non emila comps that reliably counter the 2rl noah cindy comp?

[heavy hearth]

Getting cooked lately can anyone help me with rookie and special teams?

[keen vapor]

Does that Noah Cindy has biscuit?

[valid fern]

Nope

[shell hazel]

yeah I mean some rocks for people that do well wouldn't hurt, gotta spend rocks to invest a lot in pvp anyway

[keen vapor]

2 RL Blanc Scarlet Alter Helm should make it

[shell hazel]

my options for upcoming solo raid doll invest:

• Get Siren from SR-5 to SR-15
• LapT from R-0?
• Other batteries some

[keen vapor]

You won't use Laplace on raids

[shell hazel]

RL dolls are an issue, Noise and Jackal sat waiting for SR ones to appear.

[keen vapor]

Same

[shell hazel]

I don't really mind if I don't max out solo raid yet in terms of top 3% or w/e

I'm mostly investing my pvp units for now, and my campaign ones

[tropic summit]

if 2RL cindy without biscuit, indom SBS
if 2RL cindy with biscuit, 2RL s.anis

the whole point is to use a DPS that can trade better once you've absorbed cindy nuke

[shell hazel]

ideal if investments help both pvp + pve but my raid units can wait a bit

[valid fern]

Seems kinda expensive. For CA purposes I think I will just have to use a throwaway team instead.

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind alice rumani
scarlet xmaiden trina rh jackal
noah biscuit rapu sbs laplace

quantum on trina, xmaiden, jackal
vigor on biscuit, rapunzel
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

raise CP on the nikke in SS attached

[tropic summit]

for rookie you can run either

noah biscuit cind helm jackal (faster, better, but lower CP)
sbs alice helmt blanc jackal (loaded on CP, slower)

[swift mango]

I learnt my lesson at the cost of 300 rocks. Locking line 1+2 in this game is a fraud.

[crystal flicker]

Rail cooking

[hollow lagoon]

bro's gibing up pve for pvp

[nocturne arrow]

help me with the positions

[crystal flicker]

2RL Scarlet against stall
2RL Cindy against Scarlet

[unique wagon]

Position is not the problem. Team setup is the problem.

[nocturne arrow]

here is my roaster

[unique wagon]

• T2: Scarlet Trina RedHood Centi Jackal
• T3: Noah Biscu Cinderella HelmTr Rumani

[nocturne arrow]

T1 losing RH, who should i replace her with?

[crystal flicker]

Blanc Scarlet against T1 if you're willing to try

actually maybe not

[nocturne arrow]

i only have one shot or one opportunity, To seize everything i ever wanted in one moment

[crystal flicker]

Ah Siren stun Noah

[nocturne arrow]

so what the recomended team now?

[crystal flicker]

.

T2 T3 should win anyway

[sleek imp]

can someone make a SP comp for me? Im falling off challengers again 😭

Whats the website for uhm the pvp positiong

[hollow lagoon]

Scarlet Trina anis Siren jackal

[keen vapor]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[sleek imp]

thank you

[nocturne arrow]

how about this?

[hollow lagoon]

Rumani Cinderella Blanc biscuit viper

Oh u have red hood

Wait different person

[hollow lagoon]

I’m not a fan of your teams but I’m sleepy

[nocturne arrow]

well, im only have the first team, 2 & 3 are suggestion from above

[hollow lagoon]

First team is like the worst team

[unique wagon]

I literally showed you 2 teams that have high winrate but why do you want to do 3? You dont even have Emilia.

You also don't have LaplaceTr.

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t have Emilia either but nobody in my backer does kekeke

[hollow lagoon]

Take out Cinderella and put whatever battery burst gen unit swap

If u wanna win two rounds swap noise and Noah

[unique wagon]

Those are not our teams.

[unique wagon]

Sorry I mean this.

[hollow lagoon]

Bro u run Prydwen?

If you do I appreciate your tips and guides

[unique wagon]

^ That is not our team.

[nocturne arrow]

ahh i change cindy with SAnis, my bad

[unique wagon]

You asked for help and decided to do what you want yourselves, I don't know.

You also removed Noah.

Which is the key unit there.

You can still win with SAnis.

But you removed the most important unit.

[nocturne arrow]

bruh i that as noise, my bad

[hollow lagoon]

@nocturne arrow leave your scarlet team as is but roll this for another team

[sleek imp]

Did I cook? btw Mica is Siren

[hollow lagoon]

Replace rumani with helm if she has treasure

[unique wagon]

What is this Cindy P2 shenanigan

[sleek imp]

alright

[nocturne arrow]

no treasure yet

[sleek imp]

oh wait I have Cindy

[sleek imp]

oh what is this 😭

[unique wagon]

Actually it will change here

[keen vapor]

Type little mermaid

Mica won't match burst gen

[sleek imp]

Mica is Siren

Siren is not on the website for some reason

[keen vapor]

No

[unique wagon]

Cindy + RH who are u trying to kill even?

Moran Bay?

[hollow lagoon]

Everything

[unique wagon]

No, u die to buffed 2 RL Scarlet

[sleek imp]

I dunno how to make pvp build, Im assuming the RL% is how the distributed damage going to be calculated?

[unique wagon]

Unless your RH magically survives but if enemy has Trina and RH dont even think about it

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah but ur in sp arena u can shift around

[unique wagon]

Cindy P2 is bad hygiene

[keen vapor]

I told you! Type little mermaid!

[sleek imp]

OHH

[hollow lagoon]

U need to explain to me instead of telling me this is funny

[sleek imp]

why is it called little mermaid 😭

is it not Siren

[unique wagon]

It boosts enemy RL gen by 25%

[keen vapor]

Bc that's her actual name

No sé cómo se dice apodo en inglés

[unique wagon]

Emotional support SBS

[keen vapor]

CP support

[unique wagon]

I guess she can wipe within 1s if Scar dies

[nocturne arrow]

here is the team now

does RH or Anis is the that better on team 2 ?

[hollow lagoon]

If it worked it ain’t broken I guess, so put in p3/4?

[sleek imp]

Indeed

[unique wagon]

Or P5

[hollow lagoon]

I want Cindy burst

[unique wagon]

You are not winning Team 1 in any way. Just swap Cindy and SAnis for better winrate.

[unique wagon]

If she is the only B3 she will Burst

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah but

Redhood

[unique wagon]

Why redhood?

[hollow lagoon]

Why not

[unique wagon]

Literally no one here uses Cindy with Red Hood in PvP

[hollow lagoon]

I do

[unique wagon]

If any it should be Noise not Red Hood

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t believe in noise it lost to me last CA

[jade fog]

someone help me cook a new sp arena team to try pls thanks 🙏

[hollow lagoon]

Bro has a lot of units and is level 400 how are u needing help

[unique wagon]

No Trina

[nocturne arrow]

but not that much different right?
im using SAnis in case i find someone using something like this, since cindy usually failed in my experience

[jade fog]

still trying to get enough mats for full overload 😭

[hollow lagoon]

Why do u ask for advice and always do ur own thing

Like if ur gonna homebrew, homebrew all the way my man

[nocturne arrow]

im not even homebrew that, i also asking that here

[hollow lagoon]

Ur using helm burst

Do u want helm burst on that team

[nocturne arrow]

that is not my team

seem like there is misunderstanding here

im using SAnis instead if cindy, in case i find someone USING that team

not me

[hollow lagoon]

If it’s sp arena just skip that team

Who ever used that is funny enough to put a lot of good resource on that one team

Means u win the other 2

Or u can siren stun the Noah and wipe it with scarlet nuke

[nocturne arrow]

well then, thanks for the help guys
back to work

[nocturne arrow]

not fully build yet

[umbral crown]

se dice nickname

[keen vapor]

Lo olvidé, domo arigato

[hollow lagoon]

Just put in sync machine and it’s good enough

[unique wagon]

@quick lake

3 2 RL teams letsgooooo

[keen vapor]

Imagine getting Emilia 38

[umbral crown]

and 3 more units 17 cs

[unique wagon]

That is to counter Siren.

[keen vapor]

Yeah, my Noah would never

[unique wagon]

Esp Noah needs 17%.

[jade fog]

what website to try this?

[keen vapor]

I said mine would never

[keen vapor]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[unique wagon]

No need Rumani.

[umbral belfry]

hurry and get into CA echo

[unique wagon]

Honestly, ViperTr might be better.

[hollow lagoon]

What to do with CA this time

[keen vapor]

Trying

[unique wagon]

Viper is Water SG, so she will be able to hit P5 Rumani to trigger Biscuit early.

[umbral belfry]

There's hope

[unique wagon]

On defense.

Wait that team is bad

[hollow lagoon]

How do u get units to hit where u want to hit in PvP

[unique wagon]

@spiral onyx whale comp

[unique wagon]

You dont

[hollow lagoon]

How do u know if u will or won’t get into champ arena anyway

Is it like greyed out if u can’t qualify or something?

[unique wagon]

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