pvp-arena

[calm kettle]

didnt 🤣

[swift mango]

[calm kettle]

If have i want play snowwhite shoot

[calm kettle]

old day me target xlud Maxlb with golden bcoz want hit motherwhale tetra.

not lucky at xane 🏳️

[swift mango]

Okay you are in the 3rd bracket then.

@spare brook

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1339469442010320926/IMG_20250128_190618.png?ex=6816fc21&is=6815aaa1&hm=925fa00cf65ba548510262fc1d08108a63ad5c2f5822e590c2e0d1b571f391c5&

Probably Sugar treasure.

Joking aside, in a shot out Sugar is about as strong Alice. But Maiden has a small wipe. I would pick sugar over Maiden in mirror match

No

RL maiden gen Abit more than normal clip SG. DrakeT gen a bit more than normal clip SG

Wrong observation

Maid privaty isn't clip.

Clip SG all have same burst gen.

Non clip all have same burst gen

Extra attacks can make a difference. But Maiden and Sugar have none.

[tropic summit]

why am I seeing dissapearing messages

must be the wind

i mean we've been referencing to that Rheax post for a lot of the usual questions:

"what should i make for 3 teams if i've all units"
"what are 3 good teams"
"what are the current meta teams"
"i want to upgrade my teams, i've all units"
"i want to invest in my pvp core units, what are 3 good teams"

i'd say it's probably worth a link just for the sheer amount of questions

[calm kettle]

noo am not in ca

https://tenor.com/view/cat-surprised-surprised-cat-stare-cat-stare-gif-112276495113776365

[quick lake]

Doesnt fit into 2RL Cindy, cannot reach that speed

[tropic summit]

you're not going to invest in her anyway

either way her point is to stun then nuke, so you want any kind of instant nuker that is lethal

nuker soda buffer flex jackal

[swift mango]

Well, you should still cheer in the 3rd bracket. With Besti winning the first CA.

[swift mango]

You need her to have higher ATK than Trina to be linked.

[tropic summit]

no shiet watson

[swift mango]

That's investment

[drifting jasper]

Any advice for beating this SP lineup pls? Not gone up against a 2RL team with Soda stun before, so not quite sure what the counter is (was thinking Rosy, but dunno if Soda stun goes first). Enemy team + roster attached. Cheers!

[tropic summit]

the soda team i can understand, but what are they doing with that cindy p1 monstruosity

[swift mango]

My Trina has 11.88% ATK line in slot 3 and CS slot 1. I so cursed now.

[calm kettle]

i lost cheer 🤣

[raven plover]

50% atk ros

[drifting jasper]

[crystal flicker]

Not 50% but should be enough

I need tons of rocks to get HelmT 17%

[swift mango]

Team 1: Siren.
Team 2; Scar wipe.
Team 3: Just Shots gun Noah.

[tropic summit]

your teams are on the left

[swift mango]

Just don't focus on getting ATK on her.

[crystal flicker]

Siren aint gonna do shit

[tropic summit]

you guys just need to discard T1, their T2 and T3 are shit so you can punish that instead

[crystal flicker]

She can get 80% with that

[tropic summit]

@swift mango think i saw something

[crystal flicker]

That's 2RL Scarlet Soda

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message

She does

[crystal flicker]

Different RL speed

[drifting jasper]

Awesome, thanks both. I haven't pulled Siren yet though. I'm praying to RNG on the free daily pulls before I spend my gold tickets. I'll give RTs teams a go now and report back. (heads up, my Liter isn't super well built, no OL etc) 🙂

[swift mango]

Even better. Now you could 2rl scar win with 3rl team.

[tropic summit]

post your match up then show the CP before you run into deficit

[drifting jasper]

righto

[umbral crown]

Oh nice,then i can cook with miranda after all

[crystal flicker]

No

3RL B1 is 3.32
2RL B3 is 3.16

Close, but not quite

[drifting jasper]

This is before organising cubes:

[tropic summit]

oh wow

more than enough, go for it

[drifting jasper]

Any specific cubes or just as much Vig and high level cubes as poss?

[tropic summit]

scarlet any high lvl
liter any high lvl
trina quantum
rumani quantum
jackal quantum

noah temperance
helm resil
biscuit vigor
rh any high lvl
centi quantum

[drifting jasper]

great, I shall kit them out and give it a go. Cheers

[tropic summit]

record it so we can see your dmg output from scarlet

[drifting jasper]

Just as I was about to hit the go button, someone else took them down. Was looking forward to seeing how that went. I'll save the team lineup anyway in case I get a chance to try it later.

[tropic summit]

doesn't surprise me, their t2 and t3 are pretty bad

someone else probably took advantage of it

[crystal flicker]

4 days before next CA

5 days include building time

Getting 17% Helm gonna be work of luck

[drifting jasper]

yea seems so. Now to decide if I hit that person instead or wait till things stop shuffling about so much 🙂

[tropic summit]

for the sake of min/maxing you should wait for them to reclaim then strike

less chances they'll hit back as they'll be out of attempts unless gemming

up to you tho

[raven plover]

sugar. everything is electric on pvp

[drifting jasper]

yeah probably. Depends when they log back in though. I'd been waiting a couple hours already for them to knock down the guy from 5th who double climbed earlier.

[raven plover]

just get bsoda lap sugar 100% ele. max win

[crystal flicker]

DrakeT to buff them

Gotta do some mixmax

[runic coral]

no xanne/emilia/tlaplace

0 invests on centi/rumani/trina/rosanna
blanc min skill invests but low cp and r0 doll

what def teams could I run and who should I invest in because I'm starting to get cp diffed 😭

[swift mango]

A stunned 2rl B3 is 5.56

[crystal flicker]

which of these 3 I should invest next

Felt like Soda Viper gonna be fine since they'll sync'd

[final wedge]

I would do Nero

I mean....Nero with dat 100% emg reduce is really hard to beat unless it meet blanc

Never play with her but her win rate in CA is very high due to only weak to Siren stun n blanc

[crystal flicker]

A very slow comp

[final wedge]

Bruhhhh dun do dat

[crystal flicker]

I can make this 3RL with HelmT, but Cindy will be 2.5

[final wedge]

Dun do dat as well....3RL shud be fine....boostin too much might sacrifice ur other team imo

[crystal flicker]

wdym

2.5 Cindy
3 Stall

[final wedge]

I forgot the comp...but the one used in CA is quite good already

IIRC it involve helm and rapun

I forgot the last one

[crystal flicker]

Lap+

That's 3RL

This weakens Cindy due to being 2.5RL and counterable by 2RL

But as long as the match up not against 2RL, should be fine

[final wedge]

Yea it shud be

I mean...at most now ppl use 2 teams for 2 RL

And dat is usually for fast burst only

So....the weakness I guess only 3 now....2 RL teams, blanc n siren

[crystal flicker]

On the bright side, this enable Stall comp

[final wedge]

Well siren not really as long as Nero is not on P1

[crystal flicker]

We'd still able to burst even though Moran stunned

[final wedge]

Yup

[crystal flicker]

Need more clip RL fr

Thanks for the feedback btw

[final wedge]

Cuz I'm planning to make the similar team lol

The problem I have now is the resourcrs

[crystal flicker]

Same

Still 0 OL for Nero Rapunzel

[swift mango]

Moran stuned is worse than Nero Stuned in a stall team.

[crystal flicker]

That's why you need more CS

[swift mango]

Like 24%

[crystal flicker]

NO

17 x 2

Harder to get

[swift mango]

For B1 3rl to burst before siren stun them you might need that much. Or 20% at least.

Basically able to block 2rL burst 3 with your B2.

[crystal flicker]

Seems like my stall gonna be half-baked

[swift mango]

Because siren could stun 2rl B2 with 0% CS

So 24% CS on Helm, LapT would do if you wanted that Moran P1 and not stunned.

[raven plover]

I refuse to build nero until they give us better rewards

[swift mango]

Just 4 blue black line, easy

[crystal flicker]

17 enough

Just 3 black line

[raven plover]

just

[swift mango]

Nah

Gl

[swift mango]

You will win anyway. Why bother build anything.

[crystal flicker]

The very reason we need Emi rerun

[raven plover]

as long as luck on my side

[swift mango]

You might as well put 1 team with all blue nikke to flex.

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-rezero-emilia-re-zero-gif-13037120

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-nicholas-cage-nicolas-cage-gif-5332553

[raven plover]

you mlb siren?

[swift mango]

I did

CP still low because bad line

[raven plover]

I was thinking to mlb to try linked her to jack and sanis so sanis wont steal indom maybe I will skip and cope stellar blade are pvp units

[crystal flicker]

I need more burst treasure

[strange linden]

you guys use Rosanna on DEF?

[swift mango]

Yes, why waste that CP and burst gen? She is better CP than SR Anis.

[merry agate]

Hope eve is like Emilia

[covert lintel]

i'll go for sugar then

hope i can get to 4OL her in time

[swift mango]

@tropic summit hope you won't miss her as well then.

[swift mango]

But they aren't Siren.

[signal hull]

Guys, which unit should I work on next to OL?
Personally I'm thinking Pepper, because she has high-ish burst gen and I use her a lot.
But there's also Rosanna, Rapunzel and Moran.
Don't have any Shot gun characters built, if it matters.

[keen vapor]

Every option but pepper bc we purposefully avoid using SGs in the first place

[signal hull]

Hm. Interesting. Because of "feed" I suppose. Well, which one of those 3 then? Moran? Still not sure how to use Rosanna, someone supposed to die so she gave burst? Sounds risky.

[keen vapor]

Then you safest option is Rapunzel

[glacial lion]

what is meta def team in rookie atm? still 2rl noah biscuit cindy?

[swift mango]

In my rookie, we had that beat long ago. My whale now copied my HelmT def because he stuck unable to beat it for a few days. HelmT lifesteal is seriously OP when you have higher stats, deficit and CP as well.

[glacial lion]

isnt it can be counter with siren ?

[swift mango]

It is if you don't have enough CS or they used the new option but again, HelmT+RH+Emi/Lap is just too strong if they could face tank a cleave with CP. It's just about cp press better.

Cindy team is still as meta as ever though. Just my Rookie doesn't use it much,

Also, it was before Siren... My Rookie doesn't change with the release of Siren mainly because no one care anymore... My whale CP being too high anyway

[glacial lion]

oh, i get it now, even if siren stun noah pos1, that team can still burst with rh b2

[primal charm]

Noah helm rh lap rumani?

Biícuit?

[signal hull]

After weeks of not being able to beat top spot, I finally figured it out with Helm being the key as well, but now I'm afraid to use it in defence, because I don't want to give them good ideas about this comp, so I just let them beat me and then beat them back >.<

[crystal flicker]

You're already answered your own question
Scarlet Trina RH Anis Jackal
Noah Centi Cindy HelmT Noise
Blanc ScarBS/SAnis Biscuit BSoda Rumani

Are what I'd run and invest, that's if you want to compete PvP

[signal hull]

What's the deal with Bsoda, I see more and more of her recently...

[runic coral]

what are the min trina skill invests I can get away with?

4/4/4 or 4/7/7?

[lone sequoia]

just a iron SG, high field damage and cover electric units

[shell hazel]

4/7/4 is mine

[signal hull]

I've just been told to not use shotguns... Sigh...

[lone sequoia]

4/7/4, if you use a b1 buffer you can keep the 4/4/4, if trina is your only buffer you need 4/10/7~10 (10 and+40%atk in scarlet OL if you yse her

[grizzled bone]

Youre already in there

[lone sequoia]

rookie arena, sp and CA are different, at some point you have to understand that you can counter scarlet even with feed, but the attacker team in rookie and sp will always be in advantage, people here use her in CA teams

[runic coral]

that clears it up, but what's the reason for scarlet ol?

[shell hazel]

it depends if you want your scarlet to hit like a wet noodle or not I suppose :p

jackal link also works on atk stat after OL so if you have low atk link could go on someone else

then 👋 your scarlet goodbye 😛

[lone sequoia]

depending in sync lvl and dupes in the units, the units in the enemy team can tank scarlet+trina damage if you don't get a crit in her burst, at higher sync lvl the units get more hp, if your units have cheap damage (normal atks or skills that deal dmg fast) you can kill them, but sometimes the units in p3~5 will tank

just increase your base dmg without crits

[runic coral]

ah, fair enough, I'm only 320-360 sync so it's enough for now

[lone sequoia]

yep

[runic coral]

thank you for the explanation

[shell hazel]

also what I mentioned, you want atk for jackal link to work right

[runic coral]

I doubt min invest supports will steal jackal link 💀

[shell hazel]

you'd be surprised

my noir would take it off her before I invested any

and my noir is hardly fully invested

[runic coral]

noir is an attacker tho, I'll keep that in mind anyways

[strange rain]

Please help me build my best teams for sp arena

[tropic summit]

why does it matter? having or not having emilia i'd be in the same exact place as I am right now

[vernal burrow]

Just a bunch of new units like jackal and moran. Any good teams I can make

[keen vapor]

Self reminder, now it's for real

[umbral belfry]

Rng blessing me with decent starter rolls for LapT just before CA

surely this, alongside LapT and DrakeT is a good sign

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-early-birthday-now-gimmee-gif-15731324811646516558

[umbral belfry]

Mine

[shell hazel]

mine!

[strange rain]

@tropic summit would love for your help after i got HelmT /Siren

[keen vapor]

@wise horizon

[strange rain]

or @keen vapor if you can help

[keen vapor]

Let's see

[keen vapor]

@strange rain

Actually

Put Rumani at P5

[keen vapor]

Third team auto

[tawny kestrel]

can someone help me with settin up my rookie arena and sp

[strange rain]

i dont have xmaiden tho

[keen vapor]

Anis

[tawny kestrel]

help setup ma sp arena and rookie

@tropic summit yo dude how ya been anychanges i should make

[strange rain]

oki can i switch crown with rapi rh ? pumps my cp for a bit 150k > 170k if i have anis as burst 2

[keen vapor]

At that point better to remake everything for 2 good teams + 1 auto team

Give me an hour

2 RL Noah?

Or Bay....

Bay Biscuit

Wait, 435

You should have Noah

Noah biscuit Helm RH idk Centi

You snipe the link and heal better than him

[spare nimbus]

Thoughts?

Oh shit maybe i should swap sbs for cindy since she risks getting hard countered by rosanna

[quick lake]

Yeah swap for cindy and u’re good

[glacial lion]

3rl blanc pos1 without biscuit or rapun rez to cover her is really hard to reach b2 before she die

[spare nimbus]

Should i swap emilia for p1 and put rh in p3

[quick lake]

Rookie
Noise Trina Cindy Rumani Jackal

SPA
Auto
Auto
Noise Trina Cindy Rumani Jackal

[umbral crown]

I should have RH

I even see lv60-120 with rb already

[calm kettle]

@slender forge revenge

[tropic summit]

sure if they're ready

[strange rain]

Kk

[tropic summit]

still looks fine, get helm treasured, biscuit and rumani. focus on pve as you're still synchro 160, break the lvl 160 wall asap

[strange rain]

Wdym ready

[tropic summit]

helm treasure on s1 lvl 10, 4OL, SR5
siren on 7/7/7, 4OL, SR5

let's start by getting synchro lvl 200

i wouldn't have the willpower to start an alt

this game is already draining enough on 1 account

[shell hazel]

you're 100 years too early

[shell hazel]

yep, no alts for me

[strange rain]

Working on their ols but everything else is ready

[tropic summit]

spend that time doing something more productive, like making your own CA teams

[shell hazel]

or making my CA teams

[tropic summit]

ye, that pepper p1 ought to become legendary

a man can believe

[shell hazel]

time to visit the yolo cp team route next CA

[tropic summit]

you'll quit that alt sooner than you hit CA

plus it doesn't even have hardcore meta pve units

[gaunt viper]

what a prick, they are in China and yet they attacked me 8 min before reset

nah they are incredibly active in SP arena. it's almost anytime if I am to attack them, they take it back in about an hour or so.

they'll use the attempts on me in rookie despite me not being first anymore when they attacked but just keep attacking out of spite

yesterday I was in 7th from them

[tropic summit]

that's normal, china + p2p generally leads to that

the best suggestion is to try and put less thought into that, fight against those that are not p2ping to victory and you'll be fine, ignore the others

also rookie rewards are minor, just do your daily 5 attempts

[umbral belfry]

you copied me

[umbral belfry]

oh

[shell hazel]

[umbral belfry]

LMAO

quick you have 4 days

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-kypreos-nick-kypreos-kyper-sn-gif-3078477826533643746

no hope in 4 days I don't have saved up bond ticket things

might start work on laplace soon but I think I want to bump up Siren doll a bit more maybe first, or perhaps I just go all in on getting Laplace ready?

I do not have a ton of leftover mats but I will get more from drake event as it's only 53

also wondering if I just try and get Rosanna to say R-15/SR-5 and then go all in on Laplace in the next solo raid

might be the better play, laplace is like bond 2 as well so I need time to get hers to 30 😛

[tawny kestrel]

Ye am workin on that ill get mori but i still need to get one more character to mlb which i hopefully do soon

[gaunt viper]

issue is most those ahead of me are p2p

[tropic summit]

welp, that can happen

either join them or just stick to the ranks you can hold

if you wanna avoid needless waste of money and headaches, stick to the latter

[gaunt viper]

yeah, kinda wish they'd limit it to an extent but there's no way they'd prevent such profit

[tropic summit]

pvp in nikke has been like that since the start, especially sp arena at least

CA took more of the non-p2p friendly approach surprisingly

[umbral belfry]

mine now

[keen vapor]

Only after being filtered by whales taking first spots

[tropic summit]

i've beaten whales teams on CA that i wouldn't beat on SP arena

the fact CP matters 0 is very helpful

although if the same was applied in SP arena it would turn it into a jungle, so both have their demerits

[keen vapor]

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

?

[warm monolith]

How did i won this? I was in deficit but not near 15%

[shell hazel]

deficit only matters if you are under 84.6% of opponent cp

[tropic summit]

you won because opponent is running noise p1 and solo B1 and they didn't even hit burst

[warm monolith]

Oh

Well that was good,it made me won

[tropic summit]

👏

[limpid nebula]

Finally, someone to break that cindy team

[limpid nebula]

2RL vs abt 4RL, i still lose sometimes... (attacking)

[shell hazel]

2RL...

what do you think the 2RL means here? :p

[wise horizon]

SP arena defense?

[limpid nebula]

hopefully my snipers can clear cindy fast enough b4 she burst, but attack from the back

[unique wagon]

Tf is this tech

Wait so 100% critrate applies to everything as long as u dont shoot?

Does that mean Mihara DoT would permacrit if u dont shoot?

That would be funny as hell

@full dew can you test that you have MirandaTr

Hmm she is unlikely to have the highest ATK though

[shell hazel]

imagine not having Noah even in sync 😄

[lone sequoia]

i have seen too many DR teams this last month after CA

[spiral onyx]

It's as if we all mentioned how damage reduction is gonna change PvP lol

[lone sequoia]

now we have to wait for SU to change DEF

[spiral onyx]

Also, this happened multiple times this CA to me lol

Well, Moran + XMaiden

[lone sequoia]

i don't show those teams in my main account and some people changed to DR quiry/helm, still a easy win when you can pick the teams

[rich quail]

I would hope and pray that Moran would be the main recipient for a def boost

Maybe Bay too

[lone sequoia]

with dupes, skills, good OL and heals your moran will take 1 dmg agaisnt supports defenders and low% skills

maybe against attackers if you take your time in the fight

[rich quail]

I think if def was better it would make it more challenging for people in sp.a

because atk seems to be easy nowadays for some

I see some guy in my sp.a group oust people 400k higher regularly, but his def units are terrible and I wonder how he does it

Like super underpowered units

not much doll invest

I scouted his sp.a teams and CA teams

[spiral onyx]

They're not gonna change the damage formula to make DEF relevant, too risky

They will just introduce new units that scale off of DEF like they did with 2B and Cindy scaling off of HP

[lone sequoia]

we need a better emma or more DR from field skills to get a proper (and cheap) bay comp, not a noah replacement or atk tool

[rich quail]

Well, I do also hope it won’t be a type of update where they just uproot everything and make too many changes

I know the CN version is a venue where they can test things and kinda start over on that side, but I don’t think they should just end up making our version of Nikke into the Nikke that CN people are playing

[swift mango]

Hmm maybe but I doubt I need to use Mihara anytime soon... Maybe I would test it in union range...

[swift mango]

Maybe you would get hit less

[umbral crown]

Now you will see people cookig with miranda, our ideas went the right way

[swift mango]

Yes

[swift mango]

Let's 'em cook.

[umbral crown]

yes

Give me dupes to activate her treasure

[plucky charm]

does one of these two work?

[lone sequoia]

enemy def team and your 2 options for atk?

[plucky charm]

my team is on the left and their two teams on the right
their other team is sanis-bisc im attacking with scarjack

[lone sequoia]

sp or rookie?

[plucky charm]

sp

[lone sequoia]

it should work against the blanc team, but i'm not sure about siren stun speed in sp

[plucky charm]

im not sure either if ill hit noah in time or if ill be able to kill blanc in time before it pops indom on someone

[lone sequoia]

emi is the only unit in the enemy team that can kill your team if she get blanc burst and her own

[boreal python]

can someone help me build a team for rookie and sp arena?

[late tiger]

why xmaiden?

[unique wagon]

Can u I need it for prydwen guide

[spiral onyx]

That's just the team..XMaiden sometimes gets Biscuit invuln'd and her and Moran survive through a Cindy burst, then dual wipe the enemy team

[late tiger]

i see, thought there was a specific reason

[swift mango]

All Crit... But you probably still need shooting during burst to increase her stack... Unless it maxed already...

[midnight marsh]

I've seen so many twitter clips of Moran / XMaiden surviving and soloing for CA on JP too

But that server is so deep in the nero moran stall hole and the meta is so stuck 8 repeat CA champions because everybody uses the same exact teams so it just ends up about investments

[late tiger]

what skill lvls do i need for xmaiden for that?
any any specific placement?

currently, i pvp is too straightforward, there are no hidden mechanics or ways for users to hide their gameplay, which makes the only viable way to defend your spot to either CP block your enemy or spending crystals to stay in your spot, cuz if you know basic enemy combs, you can counter anything, even if you are 20-35lvl below

[oak gale]

fellas , should i go for resiliance or quantum?

when buying cube mats

[swift mango]

Guess Mihara was never supposed to burst after all... Off burst dmg for life....

[late tiger]

quantum until you have at least lvl3 for the first slot

[pale knoll]

Lvl7 quantum is enough

Then full resilience

[oak gale]

whats next

[late tiger]

bastion!!!

[oak gale]

whats resiliance's max?

[late tiger]

forget resilience

[oak gale]

untouched

[late tiger]

you must upgrade this

the best cube for meta units

[oak gale]

ye but it will take long time to become valid , while im using resiliance for now

[late tiger]

resilience won´t give you much at this point

as not many units need it

[oak gale]

all cubes are lvl 4 , except resiliance at 11 , quantum at 7 , destruction at 2 , and tempering at 3

[late tiger]

bastion must reach lvl7 at least

[oak gale]

what do they d again?

[plucky charm]

the ranks already changed lol but ill try it later if i need to hit him
thanks

[late tiger]

so far only s.anis, privaty (not meta anymore), doro (was never meta), crown (semi relevant in pvp) use it

[oak gale]

resiliance?

[late tiger]

ye

[oak gale]

well my first ssr and first mlc was sanis 💀

[late tiger]

is a good unit, still like her, but easily countered with taunt units, especially paired with biscuit invul

[swift mango]

Everyone can use resilience.

[oak gale]

i dont sue her in campaign or anywhere anymore rlly oustdie of tribal towers ,outside of pvp she gets no use for me

[late tiger]

@.@ don´t confuse him/her

[oak gale]

if cube level big , then big cp

big cp is good

what does quency escape and cinderella use?

[late tiger]

cubes you should invest in now are bastion > charge speed lvl5 minimum > dmg reduction > vigor cube for pvp

[late tiger]

cindy: pvp = vigor, pve = bastion or both

quency = resilience > bastion

[oak gale]

then im hapi?

[late tiger]

resilience is okay now, better not invest more for a while, unless they unlock a burner effect in slot 3 at lvl 15+

there is no benefit to the amount you need to upgrade it, for both, pvp and pve atm

[oak gale]

there is a burner effect

**also what level i beg your pardon? 💀 **

[late tiger]

bastion 7+ > charge speed lvl5 minimum > dmg reduction min. lvl 5 > vigor cube lvl 5 for pvp
new meta introduction seems to be dmg reduction

[oak gale]

oh man

[late tiger]

bastion is both pve and pvp relevant and the further you get in story the more resources you get from outpost, which benefits both pvp and pve

[oak gale]

i mean im only stuck in pve just because i need to lvl up

[late tiger]

what´s your lvl?

[oak gale]

im lvl 290

stuck at the serpent boss , from the last update

[late tiger]

good enough, it is strong

[oak gale]

you overistimate

[late tiger]

i am also at serpent boss and you need treasure helm preferably, even better paired with anchor SSR

but not normal mode, hard mode

so i understand your pain

[oak gale]

got anchor maid 2 days ago , and i have helm doll ssr

[late tiger]

if you can upgrade helm first, she is absolutely valuable in pvp

[oak gale]

1sec

[lone sequoia]

probably the best team for mihara outside full stall is blanc/biscuit or SG/siren/mihara/makima/SG or SG/SGmihara/rosanna/makima

[oak gale]

@late tiger currently what im using is
liter , grave , cinderella , helm treasure , quency escape

[wooden vapor]

Can someone help me set up a sp arena composition

[oak gale]

welcome , to my magnum opis

[late tiger]

best you can do for now is

• Rouge, Liter or RRH (burst bubbles easily, needs minimum 5/5/5)
• If Rouge, then you can use Blanc for more heal (reduces burst to 20s)
• Attacker order: Burst Helm then Cindy (lines up with boss pattern); better if you had SBS, for distributed dmg, but Quency also does it (only use her as off-burst when 3 vipers spawn)

so team looks like this:
Helm/Rouge/Cindy/Blanc/Quency

Rouge must be in slot 2 or 4 and attackers "must be" next to her

[oak gale]

kinda buut i didnt build rogue or blanc , they are around 4 4 4 skills wise , so cp layability , and rn im focused on trying to get mihara up for the 5x5 event , after that im going back to lvling up sbs skills , rn shes 7 7 7 or smthn idk
and relics ol will go to rapunzel , then siren , then rogue

as for rrh idk whats wrong with her , shes 10 10 10 , full ol , but compared to the rest shes underwhelming , unless i want off field dps with her , liter is a better option

but survivability wise , i want t ofocus on blanc and anchor on the upcoming period after im done with the mihara and sbs

[late tiger]

not a bad thing to lvl miahara´s skills, but not entirely worth it either
at best you get 12 more tickers, but only a few upgrade materials or credits

[oak gale]

rapunzel only needs ol most likely , and after that , sbs and siren are characters that will be useful for solo raid which is what im heading towards since im kinda stable in pvp rn
gotta get drake up , bunny team up , evangalion bs up etc

[oak gale]

materials are materials
i have 10 10 4 with full ol phantom 💀

[late tiger]

you need bastion and ele/atk/ammo lines for her

[lone sequoia]

ssrapi is not a buffer, she is a dps with cdr as b1, you use her to counter slow stall teams or just don't use her in pvp, not a "great" unit

[oak gale]

ye im talking in general , i find it better to use liter than using rrh , because i already have liter , and when i use rrh as a dps its not the best still , despite what i heard in dm etc

[late tiger]

just forget miahara and lvl blanc > rouge for now

blanc has many applications in pvp

[lone sequoia]

phantom, quency and asuka are a interesting choice for SR15

[oak gale]

mihara > sbs > blanc for skills
rapunzel > siren > rogue for ol materials
then rogue skills after im done

[oak gale]

quency is my main dps , and my carry in tribal tower too, compared to scarlet and other dps i find her better reliable and easier to deal dmg with both off burst and durin burst
phantom was my off field dps bc i didnt have modernia or helm , and rn shes replaced with helm , but i use phantom in elysion tower
and asuka well , im trying to set myself up for solo raid soon

[late tiger]

in the long term, you should go meta > waifu
that way you never run behind where you could be and can afford all waifus from story and tower crystals

[lone sequoia]

campaign units, that have use in pvp

[late tiger]

exactly

[lone sequoia]

if you go full on campaign units you will have a easier time in long term

[late tiger]

SBS, Scarlet, Cindy, THelm

[oak gale]

if i would go after waifus i would say sakura > bready > mary
im genuinly satisfied with my rooster

[lone sequoia]

crown, siren, ssrapi

[oak gale]

i have no crown and no redhood

[late tiger]

he means Rapi SSR

but ye, miahara is for now a dud, so not worth investing, even if we get tickets for her, unless you have resources to spare

[oak gale]

buddy-

[late tiger]

naruhudo

[oak gale]

i just get her for collection , as for the tickets again , it does give me a fine amount of materials , and considering that i need to have spare teams for pvp regardless and that i need a second dps in missilis i might just have her as a spare dps

there are other options like mana etc , i have all missilis characters

there is also drake

those are the only ones im missing

[calm kettle]

yep if by others like that.

[lone sequoia]

ein?

[calm kettle]

closed quency go ein

[late tiger]

i understand that but try to shift focus more to pve with units that are relevant in pvp, like:
Scarlet, SBS, THelm, RRH, Red Hood, Laplace, Crown, Naga, Little Mermaid, Blanc, Rouge, Ein (semi-good), Noah,...

[calm kettle]

anchor and mast new

[lone sequoia]

you can check campaign teams (for bosses) to know which unit you will need at some point

[oak gale]

i must go beyond

*why do i have liter here hold on

[calm kettle]

quency op vs mother whale with ein 🐳

[oak gale]

i have ein , i said i have all missilis characters

[calm kettle]

360 missili tower 🐳

[calm kettle]

sure i just star 1 both

[oak gale]

i see quency , i like quency

[oak gale]

i think thats good

[calm kettle]

Early yes. Going 359 tower

Kraken crown siren sbs mana thelm me.

[oak gale]

damn thought i had ein spare bodies , guess not

[oak gale]

meet me when i get crown 💀 like 2 years from now bc i sure heck am getting so many noah and snowwhites its insane

i got 3 noahs just this anniversary alone

[calm kettle]

Why not combine up eh. 👀 for weekly ya

[oak gale]

combine what?

[calm kettle]

star up hero all

And used the stronk tier

[oak gale]

save it for the weekly , since i dont rlly use them anyways

[calm kettle]

Yep weekly 👀

[oak gale]

though i might do jackal's and bunny privaty because these two fcks are already above mlc-

[calm kettle]

jackal for arena.

[oak gale]

im happy my jackal is getting some love
but i have WAY too much privaty

[oak gale]

and for my wallpaper

[calm kettle]

b privaty for raid ah. Good

[oak gale]

actually lemme do it now

[calm kettle]

People love boomboom thoo

[oak gale]

bunny team
she comes too much

we send love to jackal

[calm kettle]

my low invest but high dmg 🤣 better than team scarlet bcoz rng raid rip

[oak gale]

too much-

[swift mango]

She is pretty useless for Arena since Rossana is stuck with SG team now so her sacc would just be for her dmg... She needs Rapu+Blanc to even sacc.

[calm kettle]

yep can for arena with all team sg

[oak gale]

idk my friend kept telling me to get the bunny team up get the bunny team up , so i did

[calm kettle]

sg team op 🤣 if they full invest

[oak gale]

if there is a unit that is useless on my acc its alice

there is no use for her , especially considering that my framerate is 3fps sooo i just cant use her at all

[calm kettle]

if buy cheaper phone still frame drop?

Bcoz new era tho many good xiaomi

[oak gale]

im on laptop 💀 my phone cant even run league

[calm kettle]

Or etc

[calm kettle]

play with minimized vertikal or etc

and save data checklist

[calm kettle]

Bcoz me if privaty ulti lag

[oak gale]

anyways i need to do coop and sleep bc i didnt sleep since yesterday

[calm kettle]

okie

[sleek imp]

Do I get one tap or I win against his nuke team

[late tiger]

you will stun scarlet, but die to noir bursting at latest

[sleek imp]

alright I guess trying wont hurt

[late tiger]

you also run risk of siren dying to noir since she is a SG

then u won´t have a b1

[sleek imp]

oh

[late tiger]

i don´t think RRH will take over in this comb as b1 when siren dies

[sleek imp]

so I should move my Jackal to my team 1 then?

Im bad at pvp sorry

[late tiger]

you should remove SBS and keep the rest, pref centi or laplace or strong attacker

[sleek imp]

am broke ;sob

[late tiger]

make sure trina is next to scarlet if you replace her with centi

drake has good burst gen or go naga as placeholder for more survivability

be sure to put trina in p2 though, so she bursts if you put a b2 next to scarlet

for your first team, replace alice with cindy and let her burst

[sleek imp]

Okay

[late tiger]

what did you replace SBS with?

[sleek imp]

Drake

[late tiger]

ok, then keep alice for better burst gen and replace RRH with cindy

[sleek imp]

also are you sure I should replace my Alice with Cindy? my cindy is like 0 invested while my Alice is 50k CP which is the highest invested unit in my game

[late tiger]

make sure cindy bursts though

[sleek imp]

Okayyyy

[late tiger]

try to skill cindy burst to lvl 4 at least and pref the rest too, so 4/4/4

better than alice bursting, even though she is higher in cp

for your last team you can try to go blanc/SBS and any fillers to get 3RL

you can check how fast your comb bursts, here:
https://nikke-deck.web.app/

for sbs to get invul from blanc she must have the lowerst HP when blanc burst, so blanc must survive, including sbs
though better sbs receives some kind of atk buff, but you may lose too much burst gen when you implement liter, too

also, try not to go against little mermaid with scarlet or blanc in p1, since you run the risk of being stunned before she can burst

[sleek imp]

OKAYTYY

WATCHED A WHOLE PVP TUT VIDEO

[late tiger]

Always good to learn~

[swift mango]

move SBS to p1 so she get stun instead.

[sleek imp]

alright bet

[swift mango]

[sleek imp]

4/4/4 cindy

[late tiger]

How about not going against siren team with scarlet?

You can hold and switch teams if you hover over them

[sleek imp]

aight bet

scarlet vs scarlet

[late tiger]

Good luck

[sleek imp]

tyty

NO WAYY BAHAHA

1v4 ALICE

https://tenor.com/view/ascension-sponge-bob-gif-15077046

[umbral crown]

Cookig

[wet crystal]

I see often that LapT is a secondary B3. Is her main role burst battery, or is there more to it with her pierce aoe? Why not just use a clip sg instead?

[swift mango]

I slept (literally).

Even forgot to use my 1 attack yesterday.

[swift mango]

She could attack p2. Less feed.

[wet crystal]

I remember asking about the feed sheets in the burst calc excel, and being told those were mainly for Jackal, so I ended up not thinking too much about it unless I saw a Jackal in the opposite side, but those are base feed values for each nikke regardless of a jackal comp?

SG and AR bullets feed enemy burst way more than other weapon types thing

So jackal is just an option for the whole of feed calculation

Would an SG team push an enemy 3RL team or so a tier faster?

[swift mango]

when we say feed it's about feeding jackal. and yes. 4rl team with jackal could be 2rl against SG team. 2rl Jackal could even be 1-1.5 RL.

[wet crystal]

Oh, the whole feed calculation is thrown out the window if there's no jackal. So keep my original thought

[gaunt viper]

True, tho to get into it you gotta gem sadly, at least in my case anyway

[sleek imp]

Is this the best rookie team I can have?

[undone crystal]

hey guys, what lineup do you usually use against bay+healers combo

[radiant storm]

What RL does is this team against an Sg team

Scar, Jackal, Anne, Anis, S. Anis?

[dense moss]

Hey y'all, genuine question, kinda stuck on what to do, I have every character except Noah and abnormal units before nier collab, what do I do for pvp teams, I have a scarlett team that works well but not sure what do to do for the rest of the teams, any advice would be appreciated

[crystal flicker]

Get HelmT if you haven't
Give every Clip RL at least a minimum investment (Full OL, R15/SR5)

Depend on which variation your Scarlet team is, you can run
Blanc ScarBS Biscuit B1 ClipRL
Scarlet Trina RH ClipRL Jackal
Noise ClipRL Cindy HelmT ClipRL

If you're out of ClipRL you can use ClipSG, as long as they're not fighting Jackal

[fair condor]

I finally got Noah so I guess it's time to lock in at PvP.

So, which team can burst fast while lasting longer than opponents?
My current team: Crown, Liter, Red Hood, Emilia and Rapunzel.

Bonus: Is Rosanna good for PvP? Since her burst skill deals damage to enemy attacker Nikkes so...

[keen vapor]

@swift mango defense failed

[crystal flicker]

Fast team consist of 3ClipRL and 1DPS + 1 Support
Rosa good but need very high investment

The only PvP matter is SP Arena, for gems
And you need 3 teams there.

[swift mango]

2

[crystal flicker]

I think I have video 4RL Jackal got promoted to 2RL

[swift mango]

Use my DEF? It's not gonna work without being like 10 levels and 10%+ CP higher, at most you get a few def in before it broke.

[dense moss]

Sorry, I'm not familiar with these terms, what does ClipRL (assuming rocket launcher but don't know what the clip part means) and B1 mean? 😅 Sorry, play the game quite a bit but first time trying to really understand pvp stuff

[crystal flicker]

These are ClipRL, Nikke with highest burst generation value
Few exceptions like HelmT, Emilia, and Noah since they're not ClipRL
B1 = Burst 1

[dense moss]

Gotcha, thanks for your help

[crystal flicker]

While I'm at it, these are other Nikkes with high burst gen (ClipSG + XMaiden and La+)

But still below Clip RL and exceptions above

[raven plover]

clip means they reload in parts, with some exceptions above

[fair condor]

What does Emilia 21+% CS mean? 💀

[crystal flicker]

Charge speed lines

[dense moss]

Team 1: Blanc, ScarBS, Biscuit, Pepper, Siren
Team 2: Scar, Trina, RH, Rumani, Jackal
Team 3: Noise, Centi, Cindy, Helm, Emilia

How are these teams?

I also got Anis, just need to wait to replace a character in synchro XD

[raven plover]

charge speed. emi 1st skill is charge speed. 21 is combination of 1st skill and OL line. if you have max 1st skill, you need 8% ish of charge speed

[crystal flicker]

T1 a bit too slow, though it'll be decent if you replace Pepper/Siren with Anis

The other 2 looks ok, make sure Helm is Treasured

[dense moss]

She is

[drifting schooner]

can someone help with this team? i have all the units except scarlet, but due to cp deficit, my choices can be limited

[dense moss]

Should I replace pepper or siren? not sure

[raven plover]

sr15 a2

https://tenor.com/view/noway-nowaying-what-huh-gif-27487800

[drifting schooner]

ya lol

[unique wagon]

@quick lake no vid?

[raven plover]

2 RL scarlet trina redhood but you said cp gap

[unique wagon]

Can u try against a least pressuring team then

[drifting schooner]

i dont have scarlet

[unique wagon]

I just wanna see Mana Mihara strat

[raven plover]

oh my bad

[unique wagon]

Just get it to work ig no need Scars

[crystal flicker]

replace Siren will make your team burst faster, replace Pepper will stun your enemy front line

[quick lake]

Vid not good

My P1 Mihara cant survive long enough

Loses against 2RL because its not 2RL after sac

[unique wagon]

@fathom rock can u test Mihara if she prioritizes RC-ing new enemies in pvp. Your Mihara was taunted ytd by Noah.

[unique wagon]

How tf u win tho

Well whatever u win good team

[unique wagon]

Mihara wasnt even revived properly

U sure she just dies too fast and not you winning first?

[unique wagon]

This way ends too fast + lag cant see shit

I think Mihara bomb killed Rapu?

No, Rosanna hit HelmTr

Which is why Scar died

But how does Blanc explode

[quick lake]

Yeah, potato pc

[unique wagon]

Hang on a sec

Rosanna just filled the entire bar herself

Mihara bugged and died twice?

Which triggered Ros 2x?

How did Blanc die thoooooo?????

[quick lake]

Looks like it....

Somehow full bar. Maybe cause of the lag

[unique wagon]

Got more attempts? Maybe no lag vid

Last time u didnt lag tho

the deaths lagged u?

I still need to know how Blanc died

[quick lake]

I'll try in a sec

lemme do finish coop

[unique wagon]

Did Rosa burst just triggeer 2x or some shit lol

[marble saddle]

@raven plover
i was recommended this team to deal with the Scar noise Noah combo
Noah Bisc Thelm RH Jackal
i wanted to know how to beat this team since ik that the person im fighting with will copy it.

and his CP is higher than mine so he will win if both teams are the same.

Ive heard you can break that team with siren but idk who would be replace for her

[quick lake]

Seems like it some how

[unique wagon]

CP deficit or no?

[quick lake]

no deficit

equal

[unique wagon]

Hmm thats strange

Mihara has white HP bar no way she dies that fast that it bugs like Blanc

I think Mihara is alive

It just shows shes not

The animation didnt finish yet

[quick lake]

I think I just brute forced the win

[unique wagon]

@quick lake and Gatrix asked for dmg chart sad

[quick lake]

Dmg chart? for nuke dmges?

[unique wagon]

No bug this time

Weird af

[raven plover]

noise noah scarlet rapun jack?

[quick lake]

Oh, I think Mihara died, then opponent scar died, then double proc Rosanna

something along these lines

[unique wagon]

Mihara did absolutely nothing there

[quick lake]

yeah

[unique wagon]

@quick lake ur min firing is on?

[quick lake]

off

[marble saddle]

yes

[raven plover]

the recommended team should work

[marble saddle]

you didnt understand the request
im asking what team can beat
Noah biscuit Thelm RH Jackal

Since ik he will copy it

[raven plover]

:icant:
noah, biscuit, sanis, thelm, jackal

[marble saddle]

dont you need Siren?

[raven plover]

for what just sanis it

[marble saddle]

damn. tech fooled me

[raven plover]

I mean you can

[marble saddle]

oh well ill try the sanis combo first,
if thats too rng then ill ask about the siren recipe

[marble saddle]

welp..... guess i can keep siren off the field for now

[dire root]

I wonder if a B1 is stunned does that turn Rapi into B1 mode? I assume the B1 has to be dead to do that.

[raven plover]

[marble saddle]

well in PVE it doesnt work like that
ive tried it with a team of Liter Crown RRH SBS RH
liter died in the first 17 secs
only RH was shown in the B1 list

[spare nimbus]

When does sp arena get reshuffled?

[atomic wolf]

HWAT A2 SR15

THIS MF IS AN OBELISK

[quick lake]

2RL Nuke. Maybe double buffed ReiTN nuke

[unique wagon]

Asked a bunch of people. @quick lake unexplained phenomenon.

So far has only been seen with Mihara.

[marsh valve]

Any ideas how to counter this team? Just lost this matchup. I have all units available

[unique wagon]

Current conclusion so far is Mihara killing Scar and Blanc...

Instantly. For no one knows why.

[quick lake]

Idk. Seems buggy as usual

[unique wagon]

According to Gatrix, might be a bug with RC not applying yet when she got killed.

[unique wagon]

Might be a bug with RC anim starts, Mihara dies, Mihara is revived, RC lands.

And the game thinks wtf is this? And makes it instantly kill.

[drifting schooner]

i tried 2rl cindy, couldnt kill the a2

[unique wagon]

That's the conclusion so far. Altho this would be testable easily with other B3 units.

Maybe like Yulha B3 whose B3 is delayed af.

Getting her killed right after using Burst is the hard part tho.

[quick lake]

Yeah, u cant use cindy. Needs to be instant nuke

Otherwise maybe Equal speed Blanc

[quick lake]

Still doesnt explain how Rosanna filled the bar on her own

Bug Arena as usual

[unique wagon]

No, Blanc and Scar were killed and thats why Rosa filled the bar.

Blanc and Scar dying were the reason Rosa filled the bar in 1.5 RL.

[quick lake]

possibly

[unique wagon]

This is a first time occurrence.

Without deficit.

We tried to look for numbers but your FPS so low we cant see anything. Agent Eon: "record a good one with better FPS"

[quick lake]

3RL SAnis Blanc RH

[unique wagon]

No weird numbers here

[quick lake]

Sounds like Eon

[unique wagon]

Well the team at least works

[left rune]

3 team tips for PvP pls ?

[tardy bone]

Does Mihara works for PVP?

[quick lake]

Scar Laplace Noir Trina Jackal
Blanc RH Biscuit Centi Rumani
Tia Noise Centi Cindy THelm

Wishlist Noah. Invest in Trina Centi Rumani Noise

[covert lintel]

this event hinder my investment for pvp

[quick lake]

Cant neglect pve too much

[grizzled bone]

[unique wagon]

Btw we are bumping Soda to A rank soon maybe

Knowing that we placed Siren on S

No reason she remains on B

[quick lake]

Soda stonks

[unique wagon]

Midhara will still be A

[drifting schooner]

ok i will try

[unique wagon]

More like Midbughara

Use her at your own risk

[calm zealot]

any 3 team tips or suggestions so i can actually start trying pvp some

[molten lodge]

Any team please?

[covert lintel]

i'm not neglecting
my campaign 36-36hard
my tower 804

[quick lake]

what sync now?

[quick lake]

Im at ch38 now

Tower 730 though

[covert lintel]

550

[covert lintel]

wow 38hard?

[quick lake]

yeahh, got to the max CD milestone

[covert lintel]

im stuck at snake

[quick lake]

im 541. 541 is the usual snake clear

Mooey cleared at 521

Just need good helm and Maid Anchor

[covert lintel]

im still not build maid anchor yet, busy with sbs

[tiny scroll]

What's my best options to take out this player?

[quick lake]

Trina?

[tiny scroll]

No, dont have a strong Trina 😦

[quick lake]

Time to invest

4/7/4 budget works

[tiny scroll]

I have her 7/6/7 But No OL gear

[quick lake]

U upgraded the less impt skills

[quick lake]

T1: Scar Trina RH Centi Jackal
T2: Noise Noah THelm Emilia Rumani
T3: :Skip

Just use these 2 attack teams forever.
Scar Trina against non-2RL teams,
2RL Helm against any ScarJack opponents

[tiny scroll]

OK will try! Thank you 🙂

[crystal flicker]

#pvp-arena inhabitant actually malding PvE stuff

[molten lodge]

Does anyone recommend a team?

[crystal flicker]

You know we're not a Magician
We can't make a house without bricks

[quick lake]

Have to I cant fall behind on sync. Later I lose top 4

[quick lake]

2RL Jackal Scar Trina

[chilly furnace]

@raven plover you win again this time?

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Trina La+ Noir Jackal
Blanc ScarBS RH Emilia Centi
Noah Biscuit Cindy HelmT Noise
Emi should be better than ScarBS if invested, Anis (SR) is a good Nikke for burst gen once you give her minimum investment

[unique mountain]

He did

[chilly furnace]

nice

[molten lodge]

But do I have Trina, whom I must occupy?

[quick lake]

what? do u have Trina or not?

[lost thistle]

Siren's stun, when in arena does it always get applied at the left most opponent?

[crystal flicker]

Yes, unless taunted

[molten lodge]

Nop

[swift mango]

4 rock guaranteed

[quick lake]

That's actually a Win

[swift mango]

I could be lucky and get the rock before 12 pull though and that would be the same

[quick lake]

U get all the mats, despite being at functionally 12 pulls

Its a win

[grand plaza]

That's like a better worse

[swift mango]

[quick lake]

And u get the bonus x2 at 12 and 17 too

[swift mango]

X2 lv3 mats is pretty useless.

[swift mango]

Yes, it could be worse worse and I get x2 lv3 mat at the end as well.

774 my Mihara in the process. Not sure when would I use her.

[grand plaza]

I have so many Nikkes to build now I don't think I will have chance to build her for a long time.

But I don't have modernia and she is %1 so I think I will grab her with golden tickets anyway

I have exactly 400 tickets for Siren and her

[swift mango]

She should be better than Mordenia as off burst dps against boss

Her Burst is practically useless so pretty cheap to build

But the common fire boss that is AI boss we fight daily immune to Mihara dmg. It's sad.

[grand plaza]

Yeah, pretty much SR only Nikkes which is... doesn't feel like worth investing

I would probably skip if I wouldn't have enough gems for future events

[swift mango]

She is good to have when you get to Hard mode chap 38 I guess.

They might make SAI soon and 'make Mihara great again!'

[glacial lion]

maybe i should use blanc pos2

[swift mango]

SAI = Super Abnormally Interception

Feature Ch38 boss as Fire weak enemy

Time for Mihara to shine.

[swift mango]

If Blanc survive sure

[glacial lion]

she should has more hp than rapun, if rapun can survive she can

[swift mango]

Why SBS against Noah+Biscuit though.

[glacial lion]

i just wanna try siren

[grand plaza]

Boss is fire? It will take time for me to reach there I assume, I am still at 32

[swift mango]

Fire weak, so WIND, and no core. So Mihara probably the best dps against it.

[shell hazel]

hacks

[grand plaza]

Yet another recycled event you mean? Feels like SU style

[swift mango]

Just an upgrade of AI...

Interception > Special Interception

AI > Special AI

Main complain about Mihara is that she is suck against AI, so just add another new AI...

[quick lake]

Milk treasure 👀

More testing tmr

[swift mango]

Nice "testing"

[unique wagon]

can Rosanna be hit by Rrestraint of concealed

[swift mango]

I vote yes since it's random not specifically target but take it with a grain of salt.

[quick lake]

ya. It was a scuffed run

[swift mango]

I see that Iphone charge notifications

[quick lake]

yea

[swift mango]

Someone actually use Nero team in SpA...

[quick lake]

yeah, sr15 nero. The SPA wars have begun in my bracket

[swift mango]

The positioning is very wrong though... Rapu should be p4... The main unit you need to proteccc

Nero is fine at sr5-10 even...

Rapu need dat sr15 more and p4...

[quick lake]

Blame him not me

[keen vapor]

I blame Blood

[covert lintel]

try to pack it up with 3 clip sg
so milkT helmT 3 clip sg

[wanton island]

mornin fellas

so how am i killing this team without blanc's indom?

[unique mountain]

[keen vapor]

Wym without, you have her :pepeh:

[unique mountain]

He's bursting noah,not blanc

[wanton island]

i dont want to cheap out

[unique mountain]

[wanton island]

blanc pops off

[keen vapor]

If you don't have Emilia you can't

[wanton island]

wait... im stuck blancing my way to victory?

lame

there we go... ideas

so i gotta build me a rosanna

[crystal flicker]

That looks like 3RL Cindy so 2RL is solution

P2 Cindy also multiply RL gen by 1.25x

[wanton island]

all i know is noah and cindy survive if i dont use blanc indom

so whats a good scarlet 2rl team?

[keen vapor]

Have Trina?

[wanton island]

yes sir

[keen vapor]

Scar Trina Centi Liter jackal

[wanton island]

god i hate liter...that damn lolly

ill try it though

[keen vapor]

[cedar orbit]

I'm not coping, right? Pierce no longer goes through Cindy's decoy.

[wanton island]

im getting same issue. cindy and noah live

[cedar orbit]

That's just Scarlet counter hitting Cindy and she dropped to Biscuit invuln range

[wanton island]

so a scarlet team cant beat without blanc indom?

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Blanc+Siren+HelmT+Jackal

[crystal flicker]

Uh Rosa needs then

[wanton island]

i was hoping to beat without indom. i know this team wins

[crystal flicker]

Seems like RH able to burst

[swift mango]

You probably don't have ASS or Emi so just use what you could.

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-connect-priconne-karyl-kyaru-thumbs-up-gif-17444674

[wanton island]

correct. i started during flora banner

so im stuck using blanc indom?

[cedar orbit]

you can use Little Mermaid as P1 and stun Noah, so she can't invuln?

[wanton island]

i tried siren but she pops off too slow

[swift mango]

Noah+Biscuit+HelmT+RH+Flex then

[wanton island]

ill try this

[swift mango]

Could try Noah+Rapu+Biscuit+HelmT+RH

[crystal flicker]

from what I see is the burst diff less than 1RL

[swift mango]

it's stall to win

[crystal flicker]

If it's 2RL vs 3RL, RH should not cast burst and render Cindy useless

[cedar orbit]

I use this into a Noise, Noah, Helm, Biscuit, Cindy team, but Cindy is in P5 so she can't tank for her whole team.

[crystal flicker]

The way for that to happen is 17% HelmT

[steady verge]

Damn so many ppl still using the doggo

[wanton island]

so it works, but it feels almost like a mirror match

[unique wagon]

@quick lake can I post ur vid

[cedar orbit]

It's just very hard to beat Noah, Biscuit and Cindy

[slender forge]

bruh all need ol lel

[keen vapor]

Guys, it's dorover, I won't make enough points for C6

[steady verge]

Woah prydwen

[steady verge]

[slender forge]

do people still use Moran at pvp

[keen vapor]

It was a pleasure to get 2700 gems

[wanton island]

yeah. thats why i was looking for ideas

[swift mango]

It's just HelmT+Biscuit+Noah > Cindy+Biscuit +Noah

[graceful grotto]

Why not? Easy defense

[keen vapor]

Me I'm stupid

[keen vapor]

[graceful grotto]

Noah against Cindy is a huge counter anyway

[slender forge]

how bout Rosanna

[steady verge]

Swipe for a bit more

[covert lintel]

2rl sg

[keen vapor]

I already swiped

[graceful grotto]

She's great but depends on how u wanna use her, she might need more decent investment

Also Moran is much cheaper yeah

[swift mango]

[covert lintel]

i'm sure moran won't be able to hold off

[cedar orbit]

Yeah, but you are literally using your whole roster to beat 1 team

[covert lintel]

[graceful grotto]

What is that milk doing there

[steady verge]

[keen vapor]

You kek me

[swift mango]

You use the same team as them minus Cindy.

[wanton island]

so really its more suitable for rookie

[unique wagon]

@fathom rock can I post ur vid for prydwen (or maybe u wanna post it urself)?

[graceful grotto]

Technically Noah + Siren is all you need if they're not 2RL

[steady verge]

What's a prydwen

[swift mango]

Not if Cindy got Invulnerable

[steady verge]

Pls stream again kisenix

[quick lake]

Sure. For the mihara?

[graceful grotto]

How many second was biscuit invul again?

[slender forge]

Cook me SPA teams (Def), thanks

[quick lake]

Yeah I saw that. But kinda wasted to run SG with THelm

[cedar orbit]

5

[graceful grotto]

If your DPS is like Sanis or some sort prolly could survive

[swift mango]

Bruh... enough to tank scarlet+trina wipe and wipe it.

[keen vapor]

Rumani Biscuit Cinderella meta team?

[covert lintel]

why? isn't sg faster at healing than charging weapon?

[graceful grotto]

Minus 3 sec from Noah, I doubt but u never know

[wanton island]

number 1 and 2 on our server cluster

[slender forge]

[wanton island]

urawhat won the first cpa

[swift mango]

[graceful grotto]

U ran mihara in arena? How was she

[quick lake]

That's true. By transfering ur THelm to this new SG team, ur Cindy team can no longer be 2RL.
The old SG teams and this new SG team both still loses to ScarJack, still loses to Moran Biscuit SAnis
So ur CA teams become overall worse. New SG team doesnt win against any new setups, and you lose 2RL Cindy

[summer copper]

all it has to do is not fight LetAl

[cedar orbit]

people in my CA don't run Scarlet Jackal, they run Jackal with random plebs

[wanton island]

synchro level?

[quick lake]

I think she's pretty meh. Sac strats are too inconsistent. Hard to sac in CA as well

[cedar orbit]

450-550

[wanton island]

interesting. why waste jack on randos?

[cedar orbit]

Trina protects Scarlet

[swift mango]

Not enough against LapT + SG or mirror.

[cedar orbit]

shotguns probably insta die

[swift mango]

depend on luck

[hollow lagoon]

or if u actually burst in 2 seconds

[swift mango]

but Scar RH Jackal > Scar + Jackaless 100%

[hollow lagoon]

does scarlet actually still need rh

[cedar orbit]

on average shotguns eat 6 counters from Scarlet while she is invuln from Trina, that's damage equal to her burst.

[covert lintel]

you can see this #pvp-arena message
the right team won because he put sg
and cindy team 3rl capable to speed up to 2/2.5rl depending on the opponent

[swift mango]

No really but it help walking over Noise buffed Cindy

[swift mango]

Her burst is getting buffed by Trina and 3 stack from Scarlet.

The counters not

[keen vapor]

I wish 3 stack

[unique wagon]

ye

[hollow lagoon]

oh that's why so many people run cindy with noise in champ arena, learned something new

[unique wagon]

Misleading site.

[hollow lagoon]

prob not gonna roll it tho

[wanton island]

wait. why cindy noise again?

[steady verge]

Pls stream again

[hollow lagoon]

noise buff hp but idk about that gimmick since it only buff cindy's normal attack

[swift mango]

get yourself 1 ammo line then... or use her with Siren and Bastion

[covert lintel]

cindy decoy become fat too

[quick lake]

For match 2?

[covert lintel]

match 1 and 5
iirc that was final CA

[quick lake]

Sure, u make ur SG team stronger, but u gv up a 2RL Cindy which should be a net negative

[swift mango]

Match 1... SG life steal more than rapu heal and win ofc..

[quick lake]

yeah

[swift mango]

How much they pay you to misleading people?

[wanton island]

lol. shots fired

[fathom rock]

I dont care just dew it

Ill test mihara again when back home

[wanton island]

what is the word on mihara? i thought she was just for bosses but pretty good

others say they threw rocks at her and she still sucked

[swift mango]

Bad skill 3. DmG is equal or worse than Rapipi.

Fire weak AI boss immune to her.

[wanton island]

yeah. her b3 is pretty trash from the videos i saw

[covert lintel]

but he is a champion in his group
wouldn't that proven positive?

[hollow lagoon]

this is finals in my bracket

[quick lake]

Too much rng is match ups tbh. Case in point Basial won champion, but didnt qualify this time round

[swift mango]

Both helmT team suck tbh. But it get them there.

[quick lake]

yeah. Just need to get lucky with matchups

[unborn flower]

This acount just broke wall so I guess it's time to update defense teams. Man it sucks I don't have Noah, Scarlet or Cindy.

[hollow lagoon]

jackal biscuit RH helm anis?

or use wind rei insted of rh

[unborn flower]

Why not have Helm in p5 for jackal feed?

[hollow lagoon]

u can

i'm not that good at team building

i just roll random things and hope it works

[unborn flower]

Also in the comp red hoods B1 wouldn't be used

[hollow lagoon]

no i'm counting on her b3

[unborn flower]

Which is a 77% damage boost.

[hollow lagoon]

yeh

i rather have living units then dead units

[unborn flower]

Her first use of B1 and B2 is free, she could be used as a B1 and B3 in a comp.

[hollow lagoon]

roll wind rei for aoe then

i'm not in a position where i can test any comp in my bracket, i can only put shit into arena and hope to rngesus

[swift mango]

It isn't even RNG if he couldn't even get to top 4.

[quick lake]

yeah, it was bug

[covert lintel]

oh i see him in the feedback

[swift mango]

What feedback?

[hollow lagoon]

how does one qualify for champ arena anyways, do u have to get in top 4 in sp and hold it for a while or something?

cuz i have a friend who's second inn sp ususallt but got knocked down before the qualification thing? is there a qualify perior or something?

[wanton island]

top 4 in points

[swift mango]

Finish top 4 in SpA meaning your accumulated points need to be in top 4

[hollow lagoon]

oh

[covert lintel]

nvm wrong person
and it's in issues channel

[wanton island]

you could be #1 all week and if someone drops you to 20th the last day youll still get in

[unborn flower]

[hollow lagoon]

basically have to remember to claim points then

scary thought luckly i claim my points pertty often

[chilly urchin]

henlo guys, finally got scarlet today, so could i get some advice on my best normal + sp arena teams? thanks

[hollow lagoon]

i see helmt and trina

scarlet trina helmt mermaid jackal

[wanton island]

noah said hi

[hollow lagoon]

noah is dead cuz mermaid stun

[wanton island]

idk... noah biscuit cindy is annoying af

[hollow lagoon]

havent had issue witht hat comp since release of siren

[wanton island]

even with siren, noah and cindy live

[hollow lagoon]

they die soon after without bursting anyway

trina and helm both bring some sustain and u have jackal

[wanton island]

how would you kill this team without indom blanc?