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Well 2 of my accounts got the victory frame, 3rd failed.
sadly
Biscuit stalled a SBS burst 
noir? yeah wasn't planning to take her further than SR-5, not got the doll mats for it either to be fair
you stuck at MW zant even at that level? I'm at 20 / nihilister and need some more cp
Not really worth investing PvP anyway, but my noir is part of my kraken team, recent ally got stage 6 kraken with help of siren
still 76 cd/hour if you done all the rest outside chapter 21
oh yeah I just got this the other day 🙂
I posted a video of it as well, didn't use Noir
Crown / Siren / Rapi / SBS / HelmT
Stuck at mw, this was Nihilister team
I took pic at 314, not sure when I did him in, my Liter is not invested enough
that is not 314 😄
my a-team is way less cp even if I get out of 20 I'm stuck at MW for a while I think
If it helps, my 314 team with 2 water units took down Nihilister with 1 sec remaining
I was going to try again at 301 ish prob
QeQ was part of my account’s first couple pulls
She’s good workhorse, been through a lot of fire units together
Feels good to play, occasionally I use her for nuke PvP team too
I just like smg
QEQ is actually not that great for Nihilister cuz the dragon ain’t got core
xlud probably better there then
Xlud is also core dependent, and if u get caught reloading on the QTE on XLUD ur dead
U can get away with it on QEQ cuz she reloads ultra fast
your cd still 76 or has it gone to 77?
CD?
core dust per hour
77
ah ok so one more for the chapter essentially
I don’t have proper units to take out ME
My Modernia is uninvested
She has sr5 doll that’s it
the one good thing that came out of my mihara pulls, was a random mod
everything else was garbage though 😛
I got doro from siren and mod form Mihara
both good for whale I think, My doro is OK investment SR-5 but no OL and limited skills
my mod is less than nothing really, no doll not even one to give her
if I get an MG one on the upcoming solo raid I'll probably hand it to her
SMG for me always lol
lol
I don’t really intend to take units over sr5 unless they are urber meta or treasure
yeah same tbh, can't do it yet, still got more I want to do for raids as well like asuka W
I got her for kraken sort of as well, but then rapi gets me to 6 anyway 😄
She’s just battery
This man knows what’s up
most of my silver mileage goes there
Prob start to get Noah out of orange gear
Do we know someone from KR?
I'm staying away from gear farm for a bit, took me 6 weeks to get pilgrim def thing for cindy once 😄
I'll wait until I at least need a bit more gear so I can get more of it in one cycle
took me that much to get missillis attacker boots
yeah, it's pretty rough. I got a t9m box though from something
and another one coming in drake event, I'll save them until I need to just end the gear grind
prob end up using for drake her self this time around
Okay I got my gold frame from betting
got mine too
My union mate got one of the 7 champions in NA as well nice result
yeah I dunno if they send the rewards per union member who made it?
but mine is just me as well, but my union is chill, doesn't really bother me
idk but my union member gets them i think
yeah everyone does
just whoever ranked highest
just don't know if like 2-3 people got into CA if they'd send for each person who did?
yeah makes sense
cuz my union has 2 that made it, but I ranked higher
how does the left side win here..?
Soda 
soda
Dyk someone in KR? I need their leaderboard of whoever got 1st
soda
oh soda stunned trina and rh so guess right side never got to burst because of that
becuz soda is the goat
I want her but she's avoiding me with Rumani atm
i'll probably gather my pulls for SB collab and then try my luck on the gamba machine again, I hope we don't get any pvp meta units meanwhile
mg tho, slow burst
I can try but not many CN players in kr server
yeah I mainly wanted her for the memes tbh
nah you can 2RL Soda easily, it just takes a lot of your team resources
so your other teams get hurt
thous chinese names are ... kek tier tho
since i learned the language

I forgot the KR guy who I ask for 
Don't go through if it's trouble but if you find one it'd be nice 
just need 4 quantums at 7 🙂
why Centi over Jackal
nobody at my bracket have quantum 7 at this point unless the give up pve
i guess centi is nuff for 2rl so toss jackal else where
Sure would be a shame if rng sent you a
treasure team
don't even need quantum, guaranteed 2RL with 10 hits (2 volley of 5 bullet at 2RL)
this soda guy won in my CA bracket
whether Trina or Soda in p2 depend on which one has higher Atk
since both are support
even this can 2RL
it's the one I use because I don't have built Scarlet 
but it takes up so much RL from your other teams
arent the stun targets random in arena?
no longer random if she's taunted
specifically in the case of noah
noah will hit p1 and p2, taunting them, which leads to soda B1 happening before noah B2 on same speed
and 100% will hit taunter
well the link probably doesn't matter since you only need to eat 10 bullets
that's the whole point of running soda
so p2 is fine
link matters, it has been tested laplace and scarlet can kill her
if she's not linked, she gets deleted
My fellow union member won the finals
@tropic summit 
Hello, good day and thank you for the help as always everyone

Shioriko from nijis?
The one that matters

Hello guys I still need KR PvP leaderboard
bro @calm gull 2nd or 3rd are same reward
and u stayed there about 10days 
Focus on maxing Helm doll please 
Echocho-san
I'm cooking 

will be working on that
Ok, I have an idea....
echo cooking


Ein/Crown/Liter/Anis/Jackal
Tia/Noah/Scarlet/Siren/Drake
Third team auto and hope for the best
@strong hull see? 
ty
Oh, I missed the top row
you can use Rumani instead of Anis then
Btw i fixed my box and learnt a bit pvp now @keen vapor
Bricked account now can stood at dia 5

how does one fix a box

He's at diamond 5, he can't 
Chall 10 soon
okay ty will start gearing these chars
With that lb0 2B

3 months ago its plat 1
41-50


so there's lower than diamond 5

Getting serious now echocho san
Gonna cooking pvp at my peak
Right 
i hope you arrive in my box we can become good friends if u dont attack me i wont attack u
+150 at least 

One day my box just decided to become peaceful
When we say box we mean nikke tab in lobby
When we refer to special arena sub server we say bracket
yes i was confused
i havent been attacked in my bracket for 24 days
which is nice
Man I wish 
Instead I get attacked consecutively
man only like 5-6 days for next champ arena
Bro felt off
Did you join CA?
honestly you must be so far ahead on cp/levels at this point? 😄
with cp deficit people won't bother if it's too big of a gap
i lowered my self by 200k a month ago
I'm struggling to even stay on C6

hard 21-31 mother whale is 683k cp
not friendly
need that cp to get thru
the whale hunt is back on
Hunting you 
Stop nipping at my damn heels man 
never!
What?! @spiral onyx 
Keripo said he'd probably lose himself 😄
I thought it was the alcohol talking 
24 chances in a year, 2 down, 22 to go. He'll get it
Looks like teams 1 and 4 did him in
Somehow, Blanc got stunned by Siren in team 1? Despite it being possible to avoid it with comp design or positioning
And, team 4 gave up having Blanc - the same Blanc that went to team 1 only to get stunned by Siren. So team 4 lost to a team that pulled off a Blanc'd Scarlet
It's a tale of Blanc betrayed
@umbral belfry nice frame gz
wait a min the normal soda is used for PVP?
What happens in actual combat?
Yes, though only with the advent of Helm treasure. Because she drags the team's burst speed down too much in most cases
Soda + Helm treasure allows her to burst fast enough to influence the battle with her two stuns. If you're lucky, she'll stun the right enemies at the worst time for them
so she able to stun 2 nikkes when she burst
Idk if popular enough though. I don't think she was used at all by the two finals contenders in my CA server this season
yea caught me off guard, i thought she is meh
the real perk of soda is that she does the same as siren but better
as in p2 opponent with noah taunt priority will catch stun regardless
siren + soda = 3 stuns?
Eh, the comp though
you don't need 3 stuns
all along i thought the soda you guys been saying is gud is the bunny soda, didnt expected this soda
bunny soda serves another purpose
what about the P2 for soda for her to work well? whats the theory behind?
jackal linked soda on any 2RL team, running ideally with a quick nuker
your purpose is to get through noah or break opponent burst chain
so put her on p2 is to link her with jackal?
no you put her on p2 because she's exposed to splash dmg
which leads to noah taunting her
the link with jackal is having her be 1st or 2nd highest atk% in the team
dont oppenent noah burst taunt all? why specially P2 soda?
Oh. I don't know then. Seems like a tough nut to crack unless you outspeed them and actually AoE wipe everybody. Either by killing Biscuit and Cinderella simultaneously in an AoE nuke, or by ensuring Milk dies before they can start bursting
a lot of RLs have taunt on the targets they hit, which is p1 and p2 splash
@wise horizon But then you'd be moving your Scarlet Jackal team to fight them. Maybe you should try that
yeah. im stomped for ideas
Noah, Noise, Rumani, etc.
okay i get it now
Consider switching up the teams then. Think about dealing with the enemy team 3 using Scarlet Jackal, and fast enough RL.
Then figure out how to comp to beat team 2.
ye exactly
interesting com
was the original idea but running a fast Scarlet 2RL might work against a slow Noah 4RL
unless @tropic summit can think of an idea
4RL can be outsped by 2RL. I think 3RL can outspeed it too
Meaning enemy B2 won't burst in time (like Noah) to stop an AoE kill
The problem is whether you'd actually kill Cinderella because if you can't (even if your AoE kills Biscuit), then it's down to whether Milk bursted
Because, if the mechanics work out that way, Noah and Cinderella are invincible from Biscuit
I hope it doesn't
I honestly don't know, so, you're basically finding out for me or someone else will chip in and let us know how this interaction works 
2RL AoE kills Milk and they can't burst so it doesn't matter if they have Biscuit invin 
should i overload helmT (if i have) > RH > crown this order? or RH first
yeah taking milk out is the thing i was concerned with. once shes out, they cant burst
team 2 can be dealt with by Siren, no real strat needed. Can use 3RL Cinderella Siren or anything really.
doesn't need a particularly well crafted team
Blanc gets stunned and they cannot burst
if you wanna be safe you can toss Biscuit + defender p1/5 to make sure that Maid Priv and SBS are hitting for peanuts
if Siren is p2 she gets taunted by Noise but even that's probably okay, they only have 1 B1 but better to play it safe and put her p3/4
Yes. But still failed at T1. I think it’s caused by deficits. Any suggestions for T2 or T1?
something like this. dont have noah though and its kinda slow
yes it's deficit, T1 is on 20% deficit
invest in your pvp core units better
would need to see your box, as mentioned by others T2 can be dealt with any general purpose 3RL, T1 needs noah on 2RL, T3 can be scarlet
your teams are on the left
Thankless!
But I had to sacrifice my alice stuff bc i like to match 
but I like helm too
thanks but i dont have trina
that's fine put blanc instead
scarlet blanc rh centi jackal
Temporary sacrifices for the aesthetic...
ended up with this comp to play with the siren enjoyers in my rookie. i feel like there must be a better buffer tho for Emi.
Is that collab a true time limited?
probably not without losing speed
there's not a lot of B2 buffers with Noah's speed
It had to be done 
probably don't expect any collab to come back tbh
even Blanc doesn't really work because indom is gonna go on Noise, which means you die to AoE
so you're kinda forced into Noah
pretty crazy how that team still reaches 2rl
@wet crystal getting this just when I changed to helm is diabolical 
1:14?

Bunny Alice returns lol
I should update mine 
@asdf...
Jmmmmm there's 3 ASDF

In a team with Jack, Trina, Siren, cindi, helmt (positions in that order)... for rookie, what's the hard counter to it?
oh lol,
I was experimenting comps 
Noah
2RL
Still Noah huh
2RL Noah, 2.5RL Blanc SBS
Pretty sure that team is 2RL, so 2RL Noah easy block all Cindy dmg
Those are your usual options
Siren stun after 3RL
If cindi was swapped for sbs?
Hard to indom Cindy
So not really useful for 2rl comps
ye
Because of decoy
Jackal needs to be higher HP than Scarlet and you need another B1 because Jackal p1 will be stunned at 2RL in rookie, ideally Rumani
Your 3rd link also needs to be higher HP
Can use vigor cube HelmT
3rd? Is that when one of the 2 links goes down?
im curious about your idea. if i stick Little Mermaid instead of Rumani, it would work? but it will slow the team down a bit from 3RL to 3.5RL or just go with what i have here?
I say third because Jackal SBS is 2 links but it’s technically second link
Feels like Trina’s a bit wasted in that comp lul
Fr wish I had drunk katana lady
Oh that’s your comp?
Yup..
No Noah?
Nope
Bruh just redeem her when u get nuff black tickets
You don’t have a better p1 defender? Crown has no burst gen. Rumani or Anis can work
Dunno how much CP you lose though
What?? Aren't those not the nikke?
Oh right
- Replacing Rumani with Siren also make your comp vulnerable from Sniper attack
Oh phew, I was about to say, after all this time
He’s attacking not defending
Bro didn’t have pink devil on the wishlist?
SG 
I’d personally go Cinderella over SBS
Yeah that’s why I said Rumani + Anis p1/5 but Idk the CP
I don’t think he has Noah so not an option
like this?
Crown is just not it
Isabel, drunk, Noah, and grave are all that's left..
If a cindi team is super fast 2rl, can it bypass a Noah team?
Partially
I tried to get siren burstgen with smg and mg but it’s 4rl not worth kekeke
It’s RNG
Depends on if other team is 2rl
2RL Cindy can land maybe a bit over half of the burst against 3RL Noah so if you hit the right targets you can win
If you hit the wrong ones you can lose
Or if you siren stun the Noah then it’s home run
Which usually work cuz Noah is taunter
Should work. Doesn’t matter if Mermaid dies to Maid Priv as long as her stun goes off on Blanc. I still think Cinderella is better than SBS since you wanna wipe fast but it’s okay too.
Would only work if the Noah team was 3rl or slower no? Since siren's stun is slow.
I think 2.5rl is Noah teams get stunned
Fire rate is 20/s so siren stun is literal always 2.5rl
Unless there’s hidden mechanic I’m not aware of
So does 2RL
Didn’t know but thx m8
huh
New def ain't holding up
I just roll this for rookie arena I’m not very creative
Rosanuke hitting decoy

That’s a…?
Man I need a jackal, P1 scarlet is risky. I guess I could stick Trina in P1.
@umbral crown I failed
But Summer Anis didn't, I'm sure of it
Trina skill 2 keep scarlet alive no?
Oh wait u burst slow with rapi and crown
May work now.
U can keep p1 scarlet replace with mana
assuming no defict.
U don’t have a non mg b1 tho?
The thing that sucks about being behind wall for so long is that so many of the SSRs you pull were just copies since wishlist was mostly for spares.
So you have holes in your rooster.
I would use literal rapunzel pure grace for b1 over rapi
U Atleast get a shield at start and don’t feed
Helm and Rapi are kind of carrying this teams combat power
Ah yes the combat power 
Rapi makes up 50k of it
randomly pinging 4 people how rude
Is the last one 
A ghost ping
@violet atlas You 
even worse now
wow GHOSTPINGING 4 people now that's even worse
48/50hit
RNG Arena is real 
Low ammo Scar is meta now
@violet atlas I just want to ask one thing 
Did you defeat Moran team and by that I should have reseted her when I had the chance?
She has a month of mats invested on her 
Collected the ordinary recruit tickets from siren shop... time to switch to phone for a (maybe) better pull luck... wishing for a noah...
Has anyone tested out sacc Mihara? Waiting for a verdict before i OL her and i brick any sacc potential.
his last msg was in 2023 u think he'll even reply? 

Malogro did 
When I tried, I didn't build the rest of the team to survive but it looked like it could burn the enemy team if I survived a Lil longer...
Can DrakeT with 4 Atk, 1 tap P5 HelmT? 
One tap, no
I mean is just with Drake I only 14 bond with her atm
Elemental weaknesses actually takes a factor in arena? Is it big?
Depends on your rolls I guess
Which means if your water element my Cinderella will prob fry your butt with out much buff
Interesting, maybe for a stall team she might work?
Use gifts
It just how Iron dps might cook Moran b4 she can burst
Also ran out of missiles attacker gear 
I still win that fight with Biscuit 
Or use Trina on Moran 
Maybe, just gotta build a team that let's the p1 sacc easy
Speaking of Mihara, that skin is 
Base skin skill cutscene > $ skin curscene imo tho
Mmm yes
meta how
ANti Siren
17% cs so expensive 
Took me few weeks to get Noah 17%
No bad
@tropic summit @quick lake hey guys I asked so long ago but what were your ideas for the FAQ section? also what were the links to your propaganda teams?
@quick lake
Were going to have FAQ section?
I won't even qualify for C6 
Lock in 
I failed 

My def ain't holding long enough
Are you La+ 17% tho
Any cooks who can cook a SP arena team?
This is what i came up with:
Scarlet/Blanc/RH/Maiden Ice Rose/Jackal
Moran/Rumani/HelmT/Bay/LaplaceT
Centi/Biscuit/Cinderella/Emilia/Noise
Ok
@quick lake
@swift mango Remember the 477 whale? I just checked and noticed he's in CP range to be attacked
So basically I can C4-C1 once if @abathur doesn't attacks me again
I already pinged him before
Go test the comp with setting off and tempering
@ him properly.. find his real discord account.
@swift mango

Level 7 Quantum Cube is good enough for general SP Arena purposes right? Got no expectations of getting into Champions
Yes
Even in Champaign Arena, you only go in for the slot
@lofty carbon are you Abathur from my PVP bracket?
How do u know 
You need to give him bread first
@violet atlas we can improve your defense teams if you let our team to allow it
Why are u tagging random people
Low chances, he's early on the server by some months
It's not random, ASDF is on my bracket
echo making a gang in his bracket
You are NA... Now I realized. Should you be on global you would have had a chance. 
I found ASDF, Malogro and Pach 
Partnership with him. To bully one guy. One season you get to CA. Another he get to CA. Win win.
If I'm able to beat C1 and C4 consistently there's chances I could turn upside down the entire Challenger rank 
Champion will have 50+% counter rate when they use Scarlet. And 10-% counter rate when they use Siren. It's how being a champ is.
If I'm able to keep up, both the guy I make an alliance with and me will be able to enter CA

@clear vessel if you're interested btw
Can someone test
Mihara Blanc Mana Rosanna HelmTr against Scarlet team with Tempering +/- Doll on Mihara and Rosanna and proper Quantum/CS setups?
MIN FIRING OFF.
We could rule Top 3 together 
That's not enough burst gen to get to 2rl in once sacc.
9/10 Rossanna would just die and you can't burst.
No need enough.
It's ~2.5 RL anyways depending on CS.
2.5rl and 9/10 Rossanna would died to counter. 
Sure Rapu is better but I wanna test this 
No bro just do it
Trust me bro 
Who’s better Laplace (Treasure) or Helm (Treasure)?
Is that even a contest
LapT is better for Iron weak and HelmT is better for Water weak. 
its true, gonna see if sr15 doll help 
Helm but diff roles tbh
Did u try or ure just mathing
I activate Siren to make your SR15 becomes SR0.5
rosanna right? one of my CA team has 2.5 RL ros and it died like 90% of the time so far vs scarlet, from both seasons 
c4 ros sr 5 tempering
Hmmmmm
Rapu is better? Rapu is better for my defense? 
Well you see some people run Scarlet P5 now out of fear of her getting stunned 

I actually want her death after burst or indom goes to her and shit show
It's part of being a champ. Your Rosa would always survive when you need to win that fight to win the match.
This one is not really
she needs time to get all the procs off
GIVE ME YOUR DEFENSE 
As Hobo to give you his defense. The best Arena player in the game.
p1 mihara means scar autos, and in this case also helmt ele-adv autos
My DEF work because I have higher CP.

Lower CP and the 2 guys just gem or CP diff it.
I mean the 2 guys higher CP than me.
One guy just CP diff everything.
One guy just gem until he win.
U reckon Mihara non P1 is better cus she dies to counterattack anyway?
@raven plover give me your PVP defense 
Eon, give me your defense 
I know the ultimate defense
it's 25% good teams + 75% cp diff 
let me go to work first Im on my way there
Moran Biscuit SAnis XMaiden Anis
although if they tried they could prob break it rn, I suppose they don't bother bc they know they can't keep spot, they're too busy infighting anyway
All 10/10/10 + Tempering + SR15
t5 xmaiden, in case they rh snipe invuln
This team is the strongest PvP rn until Scar wipe 
But anis also defender
Well i guess it makes more sense still
Moran Biscuit SAnis Anis/Trina XMaiden
Scarlet Blanc RH HelmTr Jackal can reach 2 RL with bug
And last team is Noah Noise
xmaiden can upset some cindy or scar teams if invuln lands properly, seen keripo's t5 xmaiden do a it a few times
bug?
XMaiden could also upset Rossanna team after they one shot your Scarlet.
Weird stuff making that team go 2RL
Idk who this Cricri guy is but I guess I earned myself one fan or antifan somehow. 
Am I the only one in a bracket filled with whales? 

yes
isn't it just feed/gen
No you are not
Remember your 🧱 friend I kept talking about.

Noise 777 if you can afford it
Moran 4/10/10
Noah apparently I don't know
That'd be dope
Blanc burst....
He is doing his best today as well hitting top 4-6. But I doubt he could be C4 unless he gem. 
Ofc the bracket top 6 moving to 1.8m range and his team are 1.5m
Right
first I need to fully defeat ASDF
Is he in the top 4?
He's essentially top 8 of the bracket
Bad news for me
He's 408 or something
If I can't defend from him I achieve nothing
Oh another 🧱 friend of yours. You should be able to CP press him with good team like I did my 10 lower level guys in my bracket.
Oh wait your CP is probably not that high.
I pressed auto and found I can CP gap 2 out of 3 of his defense teams
Just message him and ask nicely then. 
For next season.
That's auto.
There's no messages in game
Discord
Can build something close in range
I pinged him
no one checks DM requests
Ask nicer.
I offered better def
Yay, free 2rl hitting team 2.
He probably doesn't need that with how 🧱 he is
Targeting skip still exists?
Why not?
It's part of her skill description
Thats gay but whocares
Time to build Rosy doll

Offer him nitro. Or ask nicely (begging) so he stop hitting you for one season so you could try for CA once. 
Wait, can I skip Biscuit 17%?..... No right?
I don't even have nitro for myself :pepeh:
Imagine not running Moran with Nero
Moran Noah when
What do u want
Noah Biscuit Emilia helm Moran
This better
Can't run that on SP
Why
My Rosanna needing better ol already
There is no Rosanna
Weak. Emilia can be cheesed more easily
Hmm
brick
I can't build overload for Soda
HOW
Soda hater
I haven't even builded Mihara
I guess if ure a gigachad
I’m just building her to get those 5x5 tickets
Oh wait double Laplace my bad
Ikr
That means one Rapunzel
And if she is not good in pvp I will skill reset her next chance I get
I only OLed one of her gears to get tickets
Because I’m dirty
CA Prep
Yes 38% Emilia
Why my waiting list so long
ET, what you think on this defense
Don't have
How to improve 
is this CA comp 
That team 2 dies to anything anyways esp. Rosanna
thanks

I'll do a test on rookie
Last team is ok tbf
But Rosanna will also kill it anyways

Or Blanc Scar 2 RL
Reverse SAnis Moran 2.5 RL also kills it
Just do this it has counters but
THAT'S THE ONE I TRUST LESS
I’m not good at that stuffffff
I’m good at yapping

How would 2RL Blanc Scar defeat Bay cover and Helm healing
Its probably dumber tbh lmao
I would only do that on CA
Nah Id use Noise tbh its a bit risky
I mean unless u use Noise elsewhere like Noise Bay
Answer 
The idea behind this team is that there are 3 attackers so Rosanna cannot stop it
Rosanna will kill Laplace and Helm/Drake hopefully
And then the last B3 will snipe
Well unless they use Blanc 2 RL
But who can run Rosanna Blanc 2 RL
That seems totally not legit
Damage Taken and ELE?
Your 2 DPS are Water what do u expect
Them to not die after taking 2.2× more damage?
Healing and cover 
Not enough
It is 
Its enough against Scar Trina
Not Scar Blanc tho
U cant even kill them
Helm will get soaked by indomed Scar
And cant do shit
The idea behind these comps + Rapu Noah comp alternative is that the common counters are already handled.
For example, Soda to stun Noah Cindy team.
3 Attacker to counteract Rosanna with 2 single target nukers that don't need buffers.
Decent stalling and off-burst damage too if enemy decides to "Noah through it".
Drake to redirect indom/trigger early Biscu on enemy P5 defender.
Although for last team you can argue Emilia is shit there.
Fixed.
Centi as SSR Defender has lots of HP so in case enemy wipes and Biscuit dies, you can still Full Burst.
@keen vapor check dm 
And for the first team,
You always have variations.
The Rapu variant is technically better but dies to SGs.
Id rather Helm burst here so enemy cant 3 RL Blanc.
Any of these 3 should be fine.
You still need Soda tho.
Can use Siren in the meantime?
Yes and no. Yes cus she stuns. No cus she's easily cheesed on defense.
Soda's stun is random or she counters Noah/Noise completely.
Siren cannot counter Cindy Noise Noah with spare B1.
For example, Noise Noah Cindy HelmTr Rumani. If Noise takes Stun, they will burst anyway and you lose.
Maybe, unless you luck out your indom timing.
Soda, on the other hand, completely neutralizes Noise and Noah here.
And enemy cannot burst at all.
So yeah you can use Siren still.
It still counters, let's say, Noah P1.
Oh ye if enemy has CS, Siren does not counter Noah P1 at all.
can i ask for a team to win this? rookie arena
So, need overload Soda, need to CS17 Biscuit
Siren with min firing on tbh.
hmm siren stuns scar right not noah
Might be poisonous cook dont take it for granted. Im not good at cooking.
p1/p2 siren will stun noah
2 RL Noah Emilia
can this team win it?
As long as she is not taunted.
Emilia I said
ok emi team here
honestly just a 2rl noah biscuit helmt prob beats it with lifesteal anyway
Noah will block Cindy.
ok let me try with that emilia team ^
If your biscuit is dying why let Emilia take P2 damage then
I think Emilia might die.
ok let me swap emi with biscuit
Don't let RH burst 3
Yeah no dont accidentally burst with RH
Bye
Common Scar Trina but put Siren/Soda in p1-2

okii
my trina still not so good so i will use that next time
Self reminder
siren is not good in 2RL teams, just use soda
Yeah, Soda is more sure. In case, that Noah team has CS.
propaganda teams:
#pvp-arena message
credit to @quick lake
FAQ (on top of my head):
- what are the best 3 teams
- what is the best rookie team
- what should be the best 2 attack teams
- who should i prioritize of the pvp core units
- what is RL?
- what is burst gen and what are the units I should've to improve it?
- who are the most common counters?
- what is feed
- what is indom
- what is anti nuke
- what is sustain
- what does biscuit do
- PvP "Mechanism"
Cindy P1, Sacc, Another SG with SAnis, etc

Though I'm not fan of Discord style FAQ
+200 sync and ez' top4
I'm not being a fan either bc I had my own ideas for general guidance for newbies
to me one important thing for people if they want to play pvp is to understand what def and DR do
but people don't ask about it
let's be honest, most ppl could hit top 4 by just running these 2 teams on attack 
things have gotten so silly with the addition of trina and helmt 
yeah, those teams beat my 1.5~2 years old def teams in my main account
too many atk tools
too many foolproof atk tools*
you can't defend realistically against those two unless you've really high investiment on DR
or ofc le 💰
even my opponent leviathan on 80+ level difference synch still loses on def against me
i'm not a fan of it either but I also do not like the way guides are made in discord either
Good point
It's true though
they've tried adding siren to prevent running scarlet with double buff, still wipes with indom 

at the end of the day all i'm trying to do is provide some knowledge in a somewhat clear format. Lots of people dont even bother looking at the pins or checking our resources which would answer most if not all questions people would have about pvp
the bare minimun info would be those FAQ questions i posted earlier
else just give them those 2 teams i mentioned and let them brute force
honestly I dont even like the idea of giving standard teams cuz I feel like people will lazily use those and not bother learning but maybe an anecdote about it being a a starting point should be included
can turn it into:
-what are the optimal, best general purpose teams you could aim for?
scarlet 2RL
noah 2RL
then ppl can wishlist/build toward it, starting from 3RL and similar archetype

that or just provide them those teams i linked earlier
then ppl can build their blanc... emilia... cinderella... etc teams
if i link are you willing to make update edits as the meta evolves? 
Both Prydwen and Discord has the same issue, too much text for the guide
Only those who really want to learn will read everything, majority will just skip to Meta team
Even nikke.gg also has that issue
@spiral onyx how outdated is this? #pvp-arena message should I bother linking this?
Outdated
Ofc it's not all their fault, it's also PvP issue where majority of player base got locked in Diamond/lower
lv10 for units in stall comps are a must, but at the same time you don't need lv10 for the same units in other comps, the easiest way to know what skills you need is to notice the core in your comp, a nuke? skills in dps+buffer, a speed gimmick? the burst gen tool, cheap dmg? a better OL.
only noise lvl10 (depend in unit max hp) or blanc burst to get more dmg but probably just more lvls in your dps´buffer or pve units that you also use in pvp
any new write ups in discord or show cases i should be aware of? Last showcase link i did was Trina
Don't worry, S3 I'll come in with a killer cook that will ace all the way up and win the finals. Then you can just copy that team, trust.
I need to do a write up for Siren but too tired atm and busy with work
i understand 
Haven't even caught up with the story
i bet on keripo and lost, that T4 didn't make it
Waos
this is the first time in awhile i've actually had some free time to update the channel a bit
xd
Me neither 
got you
@unique wagon dies against scarjack 
@spare brook you deleted your posts but we have receipts. Remember to be civil
Never delete questions 

Self reminder again
I got Mihara is free pull!!!!

SAME!
WE DID IT

but ready to win next week?
If luck allow.
im trying to cook better teams this time
so far new scar team is doing fine, need to test the rest
but i only can test teams against 3 RL cindy and 2 variants of 2 and 3 RL scar
my rookie bois are not really creative

Soda scar because believe is her. Maybe my RH would he benched.
Either her or MiranT
But I will still put up with MiraT for this one more season.
MirandaT main purpose is the guarantee Crit that only work with nukes like Emi, Maxwell or SW....
So I will need to wait for Maxwell to see if she can be used in Arena
Doubt but Guess I could test if it works.
if your Ein is built do the test and let me know
She doesn't need to be built. Just test if the Crit works or not.
Could do in train ground even
tohught you would test in pvp
It's the same is both.
But may need 6+ fights to be sure because Crit RNG.
your miranda max skil?
I could max her skill 2 to test
Currently 8 because that's enough for my emi
I doubt it works for Ein because the wording "one round" though.
EMILIA
I just tested and whether the Crit applied or not depending on if her Normal attack hit before the wipe or not.
If you get her take cover and never shot after she burst all her wings hits would be Crit hit as well. Not just the wipe.
100% Crit rate for the whole burst be like...
Basically, Ein would have 100% Crit rate from the the start of full burst until she does her one normal attack. So if her wipe squeezed to that timing it would be guaranteed Crit.
Broken!
Here is if I let her do normal attack during burst, no longer 100% Crit on her wings' attacks.
So in pvp, it all depends on whether her normal attacks hit first or nuke hit first?
This is actually some insane tech 
Yeah
So more CS math problem.
Technically u can control based on number of ammo…?
Hmmm hard to do so in pvp
You don't nuke that slow
yeah 
With My uninvested Ein.
Hmm, so Miranda’s crit buff actually isnt on the attacking nikke, but rather the receiving opponent has a “increased crit chance” proc
Not so much of “my crit chance increased” but rather “opponent receives crit chance increased”
No it still the buff on my Ein. Just it last until I use one normal attack. If I don't use 1 normal attack then it last forever.

You have a week to invest her 
Thats still kinda OP 
I think I want Ein AtK once just right before B3 happens. So she could use her nuke and some wings attack with guaranteed Crit...
@swift mango does the 100% crit last… forever? until Ein shoots a shot? 
Cause Miranda’s 85% crit chance technically doesnt have a time limit
Yeah lemme screenshot the buff for you...
Omfg 
That’s a perma 85% crit chance for feathers, at the expense of Ein never shooting a shot 
Do a shooting range electric and make new record 
@zinc lion could you kindly pin this please? #pvp-arena message
Arena chat etiquette the pin.
Add 4 picture attachment max per comment too. 
People keep forgetting about it.
good point
thank you NGV
Cant find the numbers, but Ein and feather dmg seems to be like 40/60 split 
Charge damage actually good?
idk. Not sure how Ein works
alright, hopefully the new pin is good enough to alleviate some of the questions and requests here
remember to remind people to check the pins friends
need help making a team
what the heck happen here. did mana die a millisec before she can rez?
rosa dispel
oh shit I didn't realize mana rez worked that way, also didn't realize rosa dispel targets that way lol
mana can't be highest 2 atk on team
anybody
did anybody manage to get their SG team to win against Scar Jack team?
or am i full coping rn
ima need a team that is both anti scarjack and anti SG at the same time. 
encountered way too many scarjacks in team slot 1.
and I also anticpate copy cats slotting SG team in team 1 now since I did that this season and saw plenty of copy cats copy my flawed teams from last season lmao
2rl Noah cindy
how can you even position 2rl noah cindy vs SG team correctly. you can only put noah and noise on either sides and they both get owned by SG targeting shenanigans.
I guess you just have to put Noah in p1 and pray the SG team is attacking side, pray your Noah survives til burst. And then pray you don't get Siren'd
I'm actually so annoyed by Siren's pvp presence now.
Noise Rumani Noah Cindy Helmt, Noise taunt
My team survived 4 SG Rosa with 2 being electric hitting Helmt, she got 2 shot before she fired, team became 4rl, still won
Also fully immune to siren as a bonus
Can out stall most double buff indom
Ah. Makes sense. I forget how having Noise taunt over Noah taunt is a thing, even though my own Noise is already configured to do that lmao 
Need help for PvP teams
still tho. what if SG team ends up on attack and targets Noise. Would she survive a fully invested SG team?
actually nvm it wouldnt matter since Rumani b1 backup
Does Rosana concealment in P5 prevent defending SG's from targeting her?
A lie.
Noah Siren Cindy Anis BSoda
Blanc ScarBS Rapipi Crust Drake
Auto
I can see Bay, do you have other Nikke?
Since it's gonna take a while before you can catch up with the others at top 100 or more
I'll give "PvP team but you should invest to them first"
Scarlet Trina Rumani DrakeT Jackal
Noah Anis Cindy HelmT Noise
Moran Rapunzel/Siren Emilia Noir Centi
T1 and T2 is OK
T3 can replace Moran to Blanc and Noir to Biscuit if you get them later
Priority to get Helm's Treasure
Then T1 > T2 > Emi > Centi > Others
Scarlet HelmT Cindy Emi:
At least R15 Doll + 7/7/7 skill + full OL
Trina Rumani Noah Anis Jackal Noise Centi:
At least R15 Doll + 4/4/4 skill + full OL
Drake's Treasure after Helm's Treasure to complete Road to Villain (Drake's pass)
Others can wait after priority Nikkes for PvP, R15 Doll + Full OL
Thank you! This helps out a lot!
Darn we have another Professional Chief this moment.
Unrelated but I feel like I just team travelled all the screenshot from 6-7 years ago randomly pop up to my phone....
This phone is old yeah but these pic should have been deleted long ago...
should I build Ein for CA? Does she need CS? I need to build her for MC later anyway so asking ahead 
Probably doesn't need or want cs

hello,can anyone help me make a team? im not knowledgable when it comes to pvp so i dont know who to build
for rookie or for sp arena? you'll struggle a bit there with your lack of some core units
is that everyone? you can change the view to horizontal/landscape to capture more in one shot. ideal view is sorted by power
rookie
yep
for just 1 team you want to build around your best pvp nuker probably, in this case it's going to be cindy I think
Use jackal and blanc as burst 1 and 2, you can also slot in siren as a stunner, for burst 3 I'd choose cindy and for flex just use your highest power nikke
Imagine having drakeT at the 160 wall
or blanc with cindy for cindy p4, but probably not much in it
not sure someone did mention it though a day or two ago
search for shuffle in the thing you'll probably find it
btw work on treasure helm next she is both pvp meta and in the pve meta also
Blanc burst is ideal as it makes jackal unkillable, buying more time for cindy to nuke
yeah that is a pretty decent rookie team vs people who run auto comps
notes:
- finish Drake treasure off you may as well, you get enough materials in the event to do it.
- set bulletin to helm treasure materials. You don't need to get Drake ones as the event gives you 160 which is all you need.
- get Cindy doll to SR-15 eventually, she's both pvp and pve meta also. 10/7/10 skills.
- get Jackal a doll and R-15 or SR-5 it. 4/4/4 skills and some OL if you can eventually also.
- get Siren a doll and SR-5 as well if you can. 10/10/7 skills and some OL.
- get Blanc a doll and SR-5 with 1/5/10 skills eventually. 1/5/7 budget. You can boost 1 to say 4 if you feel like it.
alright thanks
I think that about covers basics for now. Cindy / Helm / Siren will have the most dual applications for both pvp and pve so focus on them if you can
set wishlist to include Helm but you can use silver mileage for missing copies. Long term goal.
Drake treasure is still good though and you can use her in both as well, especially if you expand to needing teams for SP arena
Helm treasure has the highest burst gen in the game so well worth getting a copy, because with her in the team you can speed up your comps some + she is very good in pve
I def can't get drake T before next CA btw, bond 11 or 12 and no tickets with like 4-5 days to go 😄
I think the next level will give me enough mats to super success to SR-15 though maybe... if I'm lucky
I accidentally put her skill 2 to 8 when I meant to do skill 1. so she's 8/8/7 atm. I think I'll aim for 10/8/7 for now and get her burst to 10 when I can
rosanna is 4/7/4 so I'll boost her burst to 7 next
Use Kilo on raid
she is fire
I think 10/7/10 yeah, but I guess skill books are at least a bit less of an issue
so maybe I'd wind up yolo to 10/10/10 one day
No level of copium can justify this
yes, I still have a queue of gear to do and rocks as well
Hey some peeps 5 5 5 5 kilo and 10 10 10 her
she is useful
Bro what did reshuffle do to my brcaket 
In their hearts not in raida 
I have a full set of gear to OL on Drake at least, and most of Rosanna just missing one part
Yea im coping
yeah it's def cope, I wasn't ever going to invest in kilo for this anyway 😛
I have fire asuka if I wanted a good gen purpose fire unit that is not yet built
but im NOT kidding when there is ppl who 5 5 5 5 her and 10 10 10
or modernia as well
I mean I'm sure there are people that 10/10/10 Crow but doesn't make it a good idea 😄

Everyone in rookie and thwir mothers are running p2 siren with 2rl scar now 
Free wins
am always lost on rookie
Attack n testing good but on defense aaa questionable
Siren
def diff, if attack must switch counter
Like bro there are 2 easy counters to that def 
Why run it
Ross sac would be more consistent cuz peeps dunno how to counter
Especially when they have rosa built
def
but sometimes lost thoo bcoz people sync up fast
just enjoy to revenge2.
acctualy u.u can beat 20-40k cp diffilct or defensed over void without hit. bcoz they burn out
@spare brook my map of stuff, I don't really want to go too heavily into pepper or SR Anis tbh. Some dolls I just need an SR one but my selector will probably need to go to siren for SR-5
on the upcoming solo raid
I have SR-5 on some others kind of pointlessly but oh well 😄
like doro, and grave
cp mainly I think, as I need cover repairer
so I may as well wait until 301 and maybe I won't lose too much if I throw Naga back in
looks like all the clears use Naga or Liter, and my Naga is much closer to being ready than my Liter is
scar trina?
so whale lah what Rosanna skills, ol and rolls
Stuff like scar/siren/trina/helmT/jackal
that's my rosanna food
Can't believe I won this one. 
Guess it could also happen in CA. 
wait until relog e.t.e
clutching
Anis MVP
op anis
Who would win?
A drunkard farmer with a sword? A retired pop star with a stinky butt? 
head
farming gem from 730 to 800 tower for mihara, only to get pranked by fat girl

i want 10 10 10 but cant 🤣
Why not?
7 10 10 enough 
CP is CP.
who's better for CA?
Hey are you in my 4th league bracket? Or 3rd one?
old day maiden banger 🐳
Do you have xAnne?
nooo am stay at rank 7 rokkie. Cant do




mihara dying too slow? bricked





strike