#pvp-arena

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shell hazel
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been a constant juggle on resources tbh

dire root
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Well 2 of my accounts got the victory frame, 3rd failed.

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sadly

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Biscuit stalled a SBS burst whyyy

shell hazel
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noir? yeah wasn't planning to take her further than SR-5, not got the doll mats for it either to be fair

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you stuck at MW zant even at that level? I'm at 20 / nihilister and need some more cp

hollow lagoon
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Not really worth investing PvP anyway, but my noir is part of my kraken team, recent ally got stage 6 kraken with help of siren

shell hazel
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still 76 cd/hour if you done all the rest outside chapter 21

shell hazel
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I posted a video of it as well, didn't use Noir

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Crown / Siren / Rapi / SBS / HelmT

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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oh you're 314

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no that's not right

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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that is not 314 😄

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my a-team is way less cp even if I get out of 20 I'm stuck at MW for a while I think

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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I was going to try again at 301 ish prob

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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see if the cp bump gets me enough

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would take too long to build up QEQ or xlud

hollow lagoon
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QeQ was part of my account’s first couple pulls

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She’s good workhorse, been through a lot of fire units together

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Feels good to play, occasionally I use her for nuke PvP team too

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I just like smg

shell hazel
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yeah if you manual her she's a lot of fun

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just due to her rate of fire

hollow lagoon
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QEQ is actually not that great for Nihilister cuz the dragon ain’t got core

shell hazel
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xlud probably better there then

hollow lagoon
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Xlud is also core dependent, and if u get caught reloading on the QTE on XLUD ur dead

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U can get away with it on QEQ cuz she reloads ultra fast

shell hazel
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your cd still 76 or has it gone to 77?

hollow lagoon
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CD?

shell hazel
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core dust per hour

hollow lagoon
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77

shell hazel
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ah ok so one more for the chapter essentially

hollow lagoon
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I don’t have proper units to take out ME

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My Modernia is uninvested

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She has sr5 doll that’s it

shell hazel
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the one good thing that came out of my mihara pulls, was a random mod

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everything else was garbage though 😛

hollow lagoon
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I got doro from siren and mod form Mihara

shell hazel
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both good for whale I think, My doro is OK investment SR-5 but no OL and limited skills

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my mod is less than nothing really, no doll not even one to give her

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if I get an MG one on the upcoming solo raid I'll probably hand it to her

hollow lagoon
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I have a lot of MG dolls

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30% of all dolls I loot are MG

shell hazel
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SMG for me always lol

hollow lagoon
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lol

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I don’t really intend to take units over sr5 unless they are urber meta or treasure

shell hazel
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yeah same tbh, can't do it yet, still got more I want to do for raids as well like asuka W

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I got her for kraken sort of as well, but then rapi gets me to 6 anyway 😄

hollow lagoon
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This arena season

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Old reliable didn’t fail me once

shell hazel
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that anis though 😄

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still biscuit invuln so works even if not invested

hollow lagoon
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She’s just battery

shell hazel
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core max noah is basically cheating

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I am at like core 1, need more silver mileage 😛

hollow lagoon
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This man knows what’s up

shell hazel
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most of my silver mileage goes there

hollow lagoon
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Prob start to get Noah out of orange gear

blissful willow
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Do we know someone from KR?

shell hazel
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I'll wait until I at least need a bit more gear so I can get more of it in one cycle

hollow lagoon
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took me that much to get missillis attacker boots

shell hazel
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yeah, it's pretty rough. I got a t9m box though from something

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and another one coming in drake event, I'll save them until I need to just end the gear grind

hollow lagoon
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prob end up using for drake her self this time around

scenic hatch
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Okay I got my gold frame from betting

hollow lagoon
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got mine too

scenic hatch
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My union mate got one of the 7 champions in NA as well nice result

hollow lagoon
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man

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my union literal has only me in champ arena

shell hazel
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yeah I dunno if they send the rewards per union member who made it?

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but mine is just me as well, but my union is chill, doesn't really bother me

hollow lagoon
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idk but my union member gets them i think

shell hazel
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yeah everyone does

placid bloom
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just whoever ranked highest

shell hazel
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just don't know if like 2-3 people got into CA if they'd send for each person who did?

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yeah makes sense

placid bloom
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cuz my union has 2 that made it, but I ranked higher

vast junco
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how does the left side win here..?

placid bloom
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Soda TimiProud

raven plover
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soda

blissful willow
shell hazel
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soda

vast junco
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oh soda stunned trina and rh so guess right side never got to burst because of that

primal charm
shell hazel
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I want her but she's avoiding me with Rumani atm

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i'll probably gather my pulls for SB collab and then try my luck on the gamba machine again, I hope we don't get any pvp meta units meanwhile

hollow lagoon
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mmm

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i only have 1 copy of soda

shell hazel
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she's just a wildcard b1 who can stun

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can change a match for good or ill

hollow lagoon
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mg tho, slow burst

scenic hatch
shell hazel
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yeah I mainly wanted her for the memes tbh

placid bloom
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nah you can 2RL Soda easily, it just takes a lot of your team resources

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so your other teams get hurt

hollow lagoon
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thous chinese names are ... kek tier thoKEKW since i learned the language

vast junco
blissful willow
shell hazel
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just need 4 quantums at 7 🙂

placid bloom
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why Centi over Jackal

hollow lagoon
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nobody at my bracket have quantum 7 at this point unless the give up pve

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i guess centi is nuff for 2rl so toss jackal else where

umbral belfry
placid bloom
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don't even need quantum, guaranteed 2RL with 10 hits (2 volley of 5 bullet at 2RL)

vast junco
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this soda guy won in my CA bracket

placid bloom
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whether Trina or Soda in p2 depend on which one has higher Atk

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since both are support

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even this can 2RL

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it's the one I use because I don't have built Scarlet hmmz

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but it takes up so much RL from your other teams

tropic summit
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soda has to be in p2 and possibly linked to be good

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else it's just RNG

vast junco
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arent the stun targets random in arena?

tropic summit
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no longer random if she's taunted

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specifically in the case of noah

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noah will hit p1 and p2, taunting them, which leads to soda B1 happening before noah B2 on same speed

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and 100% will hit taunter

placid bloom
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well the link probably doesn't matter since you only need to eat 10 bullets

tropic summit
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that's the whole point of running soda

placid bloom
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so p2 is fine

tropic summit
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if she's not linked, she gets deleted

placid bloom
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guess you leave Trina doll lower level then

frank spear
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My fellow union member won the finalspoggies

placid bloom
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or just upgrade Soda glove

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and not Trina's

shell hazel
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@tropic summit ShiftyHi

umbral belfry
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Got 5 days to get drake treasure CrownHUH

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2 treasures in a week incoming trust

strange quail
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Hello, good day and thank you for the help as always everyone

umbral crown
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Shioriko from nijis?

strange quail
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nah sorry

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its from a light novel

umbral crown
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This the shioriko i was refering

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From Love Live Nijigasaki gakuen

summer copper
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The one that matters

umbral crown
blissful willow
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Hello guys I still need KR PvP leaderboard

limber rampart
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bro @calm gull 2nd or 3rd are same reward AnisSquish and u stayed there about 10days Doropression

halcyon fable
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anyone can help me build good team for arena?

keen vapor
strong hull
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Echocho-sanTimiSerious

keen vapor
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I'm cooking TimiSerious

strong hull
halcyon fable
keen vapor
covert lintel
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echo cooking

halcyon fable
drifting hazel
keen vapor
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@strong hull see? TimiSerious

strong hull
strong hull
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Still that Ein jack cook

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That my echocho san

keen vapor
# halcyon fable

Oh, I missed the top row CrownHUH you can use Rumani instead of Anis then

strong hull
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Btw i fixed my box and learnt a bit pvp now @keen vapor

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Bricked account now can stood at dia 5

strong hull
hollow lagoon
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how does one fix a box

strong hull
keen vapor
strong hull
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Chall 10 soonCluelessChatting

halcyon fable
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poggies okay ty will start gearing these chars

strong hull
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With that lb0 2B

strong hull
hollow lagoon
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diamond 5 is....?

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how low does it even go?

strong hull
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3 months ago its plat 1

keen vapor
strong hull
keen vapor
hollow lagoon
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so there's lower than diamond 5

strong hull
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Getting serious now echocho san

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Gonna cooking pvp at my peak

keen vapor
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Right susge

hollow lagoon
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i hope you arrive in my box we can become good friends if u dont attack me i wont attack u

keen vapor
hollow lagoon
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One day my box just decided to become peaceful

keen vapor
hollow lagoon
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yes i was confused

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i havent been attacked in my bracket for 24 days

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which is nice

keen vapor
hollow lagoon
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man only like 5-6 days for next champ arena

strong hull
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Did you join CA?

shell hazel
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with cp deficit people won't bother if it's too big of a gap

hollow lagoon
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i lowered my self by 200k a month ago

keen vapor
strong hull
hollow lagoon
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not friendly

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need that cp to get thru

shell hazel
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the whale hunt is back on

umbral belfry
upper zephyr
oblique ridge
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What?! @spiral onyx deaddoro

shell hazel
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Keripo said he'd probably lose himself 😄

oblique ridge
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I thought it was the alcohol talking sadge

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24 chances in a year, 2 down, 22 to go. He'll get it

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Looks like teams 1 and 4 did him in

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Somehow, Blanc got stunned by Siren in team 1? Despite it being possible to avoid it with comp design or positioning

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And, team 4 gave up having Blanc - the same Blanc that went to team 1 only to get stunned by Siren. So team 4 lost to a team that pulled off a Blanc'd Scarlet

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sadge It's a tale of Blanc betrayed

wise horizon
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How do you deal with T3 comp? It’s a slow 4 RL Noah

wet crystal
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@umbral belfry nice frame gzpoggies

limpid nebula
oblique ridge
oblique ridge
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Soda + Helm treasure allows her to burst fast enough to influence the battle with her two stuns. If you're lucky, she'll stun the right enemies at the worst time for them

limpid nebula
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so she able to stun 2 nikkes when she burst

oblique ridge
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Idk if popular enough though. I don't think she was used at all by the two finals contenders in my CA server this season

limpid nebula
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yea caught me off guard, i thought she is meh

tropic summit
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the real perk of soda is that she does the same as siren but better

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as in p2 opponent with noah taunt priority will catch stun regardless

limpid nebula
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siren + soda = 3 stuns?

oblique ridge
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Eh, the comp though

tropic summit
limpid nebula
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all along i thought the soda you guys been saying is gud is the bunny soda, didnt expected this soda

tropic summit
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bunny soda serves another purpose

limpid nebula
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what about the P2 for soda for her to work well? whats the theory behind?

tropic summit
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jackal linked soda on any 2RL team, running ideally with a quick nuker

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your purpose is to get through noah or break opponent burst chain

limpid nebula
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so put her on p2 is to link her with jackal?

tropic summit
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no you put her on p2 because she's exposed to splash dmg

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which leads to noah taunting her

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the link with jackal is having her be 1st or 2nd highest atk% in the team

limpid nebula
oblique ridge
# wise horizon

Oh. I don't know then. Seems like a tough nut to crack unless you outspeed them and actually AoE wipe everybody. Either by killing Biscuit and Cinderella simultaneously in an AoE nuke, or by ensuring Milk dies before they can start bursting

placid bloom
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a lot of RLs have taunt on the targets they hit, which is p1 and p2 splash

oblique ridge
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@wise horizon But then you'd be moving your Scarlet Jackal team to fight them. Maybe you should try that

placid bloom
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Noah, Noise, Rumani, etc.

limpid nebula
oblique ridge
tropic summit
limpid nebula
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interesting com

wise horizon
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unless @tropic summit can think of an idea

oblique ridge
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Meaning enemy B2 won't burst in time (like Noah) to stop an AoE kill

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The problem is whether you'd actually kill Cinderella because if you can't (even if your AoE kills Biscuit), then it's down to whether Milk bursted

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Because, if the mechanics work out that way, Noah and Cinderella are invincible from Biscuit

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I hope it doesn't

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I honestly don't know, so, you're basically finding out for me or someone else will chip in and let us know how this interaction works KEKS

placid bloom
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2RL AoE kills Milk and they can't burst so it doesn't matter if they have Biscuit invin hmmz

limpid nebula
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should i overload helmT (if i have) > RH > crown this order? or RH first

wise horizon
placid bloom
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doesn't need a particularly well crafted team

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Blanc gets stunned and they cannot burst

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if you wanna be safe you can toss Biscuit + defender p1/5 to make sure that Maid Priv and SBS are hitting for peanuts

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if Siren is p2 she gets taunted by Noise but even that's probably okay, they only have 1 B1 but better to play it safe and put her p3/4

sour siren
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Yes. But still failed at T1. I think it’s caused by deficits. Any suggestions for T2 or T1?

wise horizon
tropic summit
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invest in your pvp core units better

tropic summit
tropic summit
umbral belfry
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but I like helm too

wise horizon
tropic summit
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scarlet blanc rh centi jackal

wet crystal
tawny vine
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ended up with this comp to play with the siren enjoyers in my rookie. i feel like there must be a better buffer tho for Emi.

wet crystal
placid bloom
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probably not without losing speed

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there's not a lot of B2 buffers with Noah's speed

umbral belfry
tawny vine
placid bloom
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even Blanc doesn't really work because indom is gonna go on Noise, which means you die to AoE

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so you're kinda forced into Noah

tawny vine
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pretty crazy how that team still reaches 2rl

umbral belfry
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@wet crystal getting this just when I changed to helm is diabolical angy

umbral belfry
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Time to go back to work NoahCry

keen vapor
crystal flicker
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As expected lol

wet crystal
keen vapor
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@asdf...

Jmmmmm there's 3 ASDF

crystal flicker
wet crystal
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In a team with Jack, Trina, Siren, cindi, helmt (positions in that order)... for rookie, what's the hard counter to it?

wet crystal
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Still Noah huh

placid bloom
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2RL Noah, 2.5RL Blanc SBS

crystal flicker
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Pretty sure that team is 2RL, so 2RL Noah easy block all Cindy dmg

placid bloom
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Those are your usual options

crystal flicker
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Siren stun after 3RL

wet crystal
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If cindi was swapped for sbs?

placid bloom
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Hard to indom Cindy

wet crystal
crystal flicker
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ye

placid bloom
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Because of decoy

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Jackal needs to be higher HP than Scarlet and you need another B1 because Jackal p1 will be stunned at 2RL in rookie, ideally Rumani

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Your 3rd link also needs to be higher HP

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Can use vigor cube HelmT

wet crystal
wise horizon
placid bloom
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I say third because Jackal SBS is 2 links but it’s technically second link

hollow lagoon
wet crystal
hollow lagoon
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Oh that’s your comp?

wet crystal
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Yup..

hollow lagoon
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No Noah?

wet crystal
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Nopepain

hollow lagoon
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Bruh just redeem her when u get nuff black tickets

placid bloom
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Dunno how much CP you lose though

wet crystal
hollow lagoon
crystal flicker
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  • Replacing Rumani with Siren also make your comp vulnerable from Sniper attack
wet crystal
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Oh phew, I was about to say, after all this time

placid bloom
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He’s attacking not defending

hollow lagoon
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Bro didn’t have pink devil on the wishlist?

placid bloom
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So it doesn’t matter

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It doesn’t need to be optimized, just needs to beat their def

crystal flicker
placid bloom
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I’d personally go Cinderella over SBS

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Yeah that’s why I said Rumani + Anis p1/5 but Idk the CP

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I don’t think he has Noah so not an option

placid bloom
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Crown is just not it

wet crystal
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Isabel, drunk, Noah, and grave are all that's left..

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If a cindi team is super fast 2rl, can it bypass a Noah team?

placid bloom
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Partially

hollow lagoon
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I tried to get siren burstgen with smg and mg but it’s 4rl not worth kekeke

placid bloom
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It’s RNG

hollow lagoon
placid bloom
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2RL Cindy can land maybe a bit over half of the burst against 3RL Noah so if you hit the right targets you can win

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If you hit the wrong ones you can lose

hollow lagoon
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Or if you siren stun the Noah then it’s home run

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Which usually work cuz Noah is taunter

placid bloom
# wise horizon like this?

Should work. Doesn’t matter if Mermaid dies to Maid Priv as long as her stun goes off on Blanc. I still think Cinderella is better than SBS since you wanna wipe fast but it’s okay too.

wet crystal
hollow lagoon
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I think 2.5rl is Noah teams get stunned

placid bloom
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In rookie it’s always in time

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It SPA it’s too slow

hollow lagoon
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Fire rate is 20/s so siren stun is literal always 2.5rl

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Unless there’s hidden mechanic I’m not aware of

keen vapor
hollow lagoon
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Didn’t know but thx m8

keen vapor
placid bloom
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Maybe I’m thinking of B1 stun

keen vapor
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New def ain't holding up

hollow lagoon
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I just roll this for rookie arena I’m not very creative

keen vapor
hollow lagoon
crystal flicker
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Rosanuke hitting decoy

dire root
hollow lagoon
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That’s a…?

dire root
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Man I need a jackal, P1 scarlet is risky. I guess I could stick Trina in P1.

keen vapor
# keen vapor

@umbral crown I failed

But Summer Anis didn't, I'm sure of it

hollow lagoon
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Oh wait u burst slow with rapi and crown

dire root
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May work now.

hollow lagoon
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U can keep p1 scarlet replace with mana

dire root
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assuming no defict.

hollow lagoon
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U don’t have a non mg b1 tho?

dire root
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The thing that sucks about being behind wall for so long is that so many of the SSRs you pull were just copies since wishlist was mostly for spares.

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So you have holes in your rooster.

hollow lagoon
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I would use literal rapunzel pure grace for b1 over rapi

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U Atleast get a shield at start and don’t feed

dire root
hollow lagoon
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Ah yes the combat power sadculture

dire root
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Rapi makes up 50k of it

vapid lake
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hmmz randomly pinging 4 people how rude

keen vapor
dire root
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A ghost ping

keen vapor
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@violet atlas You EinkkPoint

dire root
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even worse now

vapid lake
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wow GHOSTPINGING 4 people now that's even worse

keen vapor
glacial lion
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whyyy 48/50hit

crystal flicker
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RNG Arena is real poggies

keen vapor
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Low ammo Scar is meta now

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@violet atlas I just want to ask one thing EinkkSad

Did you defeat Moran team and by that I should have reseted her when I had the chance?

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She has a month of mats invested on her sadge

wet crystal
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Collected the ordinary recruit tickets from siren shop... time to switch to phone for a (maybe) better pull luck... wishing for a noah...

hushed kelp
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Has anyone tested out sacc Mihara? Waiting for a verdict before i OL her and i brick any sacc potential.

vapid lake
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his last msg was in 2023 u think he'll even reply? KEKW

wet crystal
crystal flicker
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Can DrakeT with 4 Atk, 1 tap P5 HelmT? pepehmmm

keen vapor
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One tap, no

hollow lagoon
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Not a favorable elemental matchup

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Is Drake T worth investment?

crystal flicker
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She's still gonna cook your P5 with other SG

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Esp Noise/Noah

hollow lagoon
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I mean is just with Drake I only 14 bond with her atm

wet crystal
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Elemental weaknesses actually takes a factor in arena? Is it big?

hollow lagoon
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Depends on your rolls I guess

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Which means if your water element my Cinderella will prob fry your butt with out much buff

hushed kelp
crystal flicker
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It just how Iron dps might cook Moran b4 she can burst

hollow lagoon
crystal flicker
hollow lagoon
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Or use Trina on Moran CrownHUH

wet crystal
hollow lagoon
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Speaking of Mihara, that skin is Catnom

wet crystal
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Base skin skill cutscene > $ skin curscene imo tho

hollow lagoon
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Mmm yes

coarse lake
crystal flicker
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17% cs so expensive pepehmmm

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Took me few weeks to get Noah 17%

umbral crown
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No bad

grizzled bone
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@tropic summit @quick lake hey guys I asked so long ago but what were your ideas for the FAQ section? also what were the links to your propaganda teams?

crystal flicker
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Were going to have FAQ section?

umbral belfry
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poggies DrakeT and LapT in the same week AliceLove

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just in time for 3rd CA

keen vapor
keen vapor
umbral belfry
keen vapor
wise horizon
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Any cooks who can cook a SP arena team?

This is what i came up with:
Scarlet/Blanc/RH/Maiden Ice Rose/Jackal
Moran/Rumani/HelmT/Bay/LaplaceT
Centi/Biscuit/Cinderella/Emilia/Noise

keen vapor
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Ok

unique wagon
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@quick lake

keen vapor
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@swift mango Remember the 477 whale? I just checked and noticed he's in CP range to be attacked

So basically I can C4-C1 once if @abathur doesn't attacks me again

keen vapor
unique wagon
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Go test the comp with setting off and tempering

swift mango
swift mango
quick pivot
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Level 7 Quantum Cube is good enough for general SP Arena purposes right? Got no expectations of getting into Champions

swift mango
keen vapor
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@lofty carbon are you Abathur from my PVP bracket?

swift mango
unique wagon
keen vapor
unique wagon
keen vapor
keen vapor
coarse lake
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forgsip echo making a gang in his bracket

swift mango
swift mango
unique wagon
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Gay

keen vapor
unique wagon
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Use tempering on Mihara too @quick lake

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Shes undolled poggies

swift mango
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Champion will have 50+% counter rate when they use Scarlet. And 10-% counter rate when they use Siren. It's how being a champ is.

keen vapor
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If I'm able to keep up, both the guy I make an alliance with and me will be able to enter CA

swift mango
keen vapor
unique wagon
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Can someone test

Mihara Blanc Mana Rosanna HelmTr against Scarlet team with Tempering +/- Doll on Mihara and Rosanna and proper Quantum/CS setups?

MIN FIRING OFF.

keen vapor
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We could rule Top 3 together TimiSerious

swift mango
unique wagon
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It's ~2.5 RL anyways depending on CS.

swift mango
unique wagon
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Sure Rapu is better but I wanna test this TimiCry

unique wagon
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Trust me bro clueless

jagged iron
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Who’s better Laplace (Treasure) or Helm (Treasure)?

crystal flicker
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Is that even a contest

swift mango
raven plover
unique wagon
swift mango
raven plover
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c4 ros sr 5 tempering

keen vapor
unique wagon
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Well you see some people run Scarlet P5 now out of fear of her getting stunned clueless

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I actually want her death after burst or indom goes to her and shit show

swift mango
coarse lake
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nyaPopcorn mihara dying too slow? bricked

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mihara dying too fast? also bricked

swift mango
coarse lake
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she needs time to get all the procs off

swift mango
coarse lake
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p1 mihara means scar autos, and in this case also helmt ele-adv autos

swift mango
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My DEF work because I have higher CP.

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Lower CP and the 2 guys just gem or CP diff it.

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I mean the 2 guys higher CP than me.

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One guy just CP diff everything.

One guy just gem until he win.pepehmmm

unique wagon
keen vapor
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@raven plover give me your PVP defense ChimeCry

coarse lake
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if vs scar and low doll, yeah

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p2 prob optimal, take some splash dmg

keen vapor
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Eon, give me your defense ChimeCry

unique wagon
coarse lake
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it's 25% good teams + 75% cp diff forgsip

raven plover
unique wagon
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Moran Biscuit SAnis XMaiden Anis

coarse lake
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although if they tried they could prob break it rn, I suppose they don't bother bc they know they can't keep spot, they're too busy infighting anyway

unique wagon
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All 10/10/10 + Tempering + SR15

coarse lake
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t5 xmaiden, in case they rh snipe invuln

unique wagon
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This team is the strongest PvP rn until Scar wipe clueless

swift mango
unique wagon
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Well i guess it makes more sense still

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Moran Biscuit SAnis Anis/Trina XMaiden

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Scarlet Blanc RH HelmTr Jackal can reach 2 RL with bug

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And last team is Noah Noise

coarse lake
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xmaiden can upset some cindy or scar teams if invuln lands properly, seen keripo's t5 xmaiden do a it a few times

swift mango
unique wagon
swift mango
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Idk who this Cricri guy is but I guess I earned myself one fan or antifan somehow. pepehmmm

keen vapor
coarse lake
keen vapor
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Noise 777 if you can afford it

Moran 4/10/10

Noah apparently I don't know

clear vessel
keen vapor
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Blanc burst....

swift mango
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Ofc the bracket top 6 moving to 1.8m range and his team are 1.5mShiftyDerp

keen vapor
keen vapor
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If I can't defend from him I achieve nothing

swift mango
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Oh wait your CP is probably not that high.ShiftyDerp

keen vapor
swift mango
swift mango
keen vapor
keen vapor
unique wagon
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Poisonous cook

keen vapor
swift mango
swift mango
unique wagon
swift mango
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It's part of her skill description

unique wagon
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Thats gay but whocares

keen vapor
unique wagon
swift mango
keen vapor
keen vapor
crystal flicker
keen vapor
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Moran Noah when

unique wagon
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What do u want

keen vapor
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Noah Biscuit Emilia helm Moran

unique wagon
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This better

keen vapor
unique wagon
keen vapor
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My Rosanna needing better ol already

unique wagon
unique wagon
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Hmm

crystal flicker
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brick

keen vapor
keen vapor
crystal flicker
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Soda hater

keen vapor
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I haven't even builded Mihara

unique wagon
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I guess if ure a gigachad

rich quail
unique wagon
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Oh wait double Laplace my bad

keen vapor
rich quail
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And if she is not good in pvp I will skill reset her next chance I get

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I only OLed one of her gears to get tickets

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Because I’m dirty

unique wagon
rich quail
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I do anything for 5x5 tickets

crystal flicker
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CA Prep

unique wagon
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Yes 38% Emilia

crystal flicker
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Why my waiting list so long

keen vapor
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ET, what you think on this defense

unique wagon
keen vapor
keen vapor
crystal flicker
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is this CA comp pepehmmm

unique wagon
keen vapor
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NoahCry thanks

unique wagon
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Team 1 is a joke

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Using Siren on defense can be cheesed

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4 RL makes it worse

keen vapor
keen vapor
unique wagon
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Last team is ok tbf

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But Rosanna will also kill it anyways

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Or Blanc Scar 2 RL

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Reverse SAnis Moran 2.5 RL also kills it

unique wagon
keen vapor
rich quail
unique wagon
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Honestly I think this is more fun

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To stun or to not stun

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Schrodinger Rapunzel

keen vapor
unique wagon
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Its probably dumber tbh lmao

keen vapor
unique wagon
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I mean unless u use Noise elsewhere like Noise Bay

unique wagon
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The idea behind this team is that there are 3 attackers so Rosanna cannot stop it

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Rosanna will kill Laplace and Helm/Drake hopefully

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And then the last B3 will snipe

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Well unless they use Blanc 2 RL

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But who can run Rosanna Blanc 2 RL

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That seems totally not legit

unique wagon
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Your 2 DPS are Water what do u expect

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Them to not die after taking 2.2× more damage?

keen vapor
unique wagon
keen vapor
unique wagon
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Its enough against Scar Trina

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Not Scar Blanc tho

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U cant even kill them

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Helm will get soaked by indomed Scar

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And cant do shit

unique wagon
# unique wagon

The idea behind these comps + Rapu Noah comp alternative is that the common counters are already handled.

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For example, Soda to stun Noah Cindy team.

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3 Attacker to counteract Rosanna with 2 single target nukers that don't need buffers.

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Decent stalling and off-burst damage too if enemy decides to "Noah through it".

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Drake to redirect indom/trigger early Biscu on enemy P5 defender.

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Although for last team you can argue Emilia is shit there.

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Fixed.

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Centi as SSR Defender has lots of HP so in case enemy wipes and Biscuit dies, you can still Full Burst.

raven plover
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@keen vapor check dm thumbsup

unique wagon
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And for the first team,

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You always have variations.

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The Rapu variant is technically better but dies to SGs.

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Id rather Helm burst here so enemy cant 3 RL Blanc.

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Any of these 3 should be fine.

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You still need Soda tho.

keen vapor
unique wagon
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Soda's stun is random or she counters Noah/Noise completely.

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Siren cannot counter Cindy Noise Noah with spare B1.

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For example, Noise Noah Cindy HelmTr Rumani. If Noise takes Stun, they will burst anyway and you lose.

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Maybe, unless you luck out your indom timing.

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Soda, on the other hand, completely neutralizes Noise and Noah here.

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And enemy cannot burst at all.

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So yeah you can use Siren still.

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It still counters, let's say, Noah P1.

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Oh ye if enemy has CS, Siren does not counter Noah P1 at all.

lusty pelican
#

can i ask for a team to win this? rookie arena

keen vapor
unique wagon
lusty pelican
unique wagon
coarse lake
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p1/p2 siren will stun noah

keen vapor
lusty pelican
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can this team win it?

unique wagon
keen vapor
lusty pelican
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ok emi team here

coarse lake
#

honestly just a 2rl noah biscuit helmt prob beats it with lifesteal anyway

unique wagon
lusty pelican
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ok let me try with that emilia team ^

keen vapor
unique wagon
lusty pelican
keen vapor
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Don't let RH burst 3

unique wagon
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Yeah no dont accidentally burst with RH

lusty pelican
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hmm this position ok?

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thanks i won 🙏 thanks doods

unique wagon
swift mango
lusty pelican
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my trina still not so good so i will use that next time

keen vapor
lone sequoia
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siren is not good in 2RL teams, just use soda

swift mango
tropic summit
# grizzled bone <@192343505731977217> <@762309530854883329> hey guys I asked so long ago but wh...

propaganda teams:
#pvp-arena message

credit to @quick lake

FAQ (on top of my head):

  1. what are the best 3 teams
  2. what is the best rookie team
  3. what should be the best 2 attack teams
  4. who should i prioritize of the pvp core units
  5. what is RL?
  6. what is burst gen and what are the units I should've to improve it?
  7. who are the most common counters?
  8. what is feed
  9. what is indom
  10. what is anti nuke
  11. what is sustain
  12. what does biscuit do
crystal flicker
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Cindy P1, Sacc, Another SG with SAnis, etc

tropic summit
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  1. how to get echo to be top 4
crystal flicker
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Though I'm not fan of Discord style FAQ

lone sequoia
keen vapor
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I'm not being a fan either bc I had my own ideas for general guidance for newbies

lone sequoia
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to me one important thing for people if they want to play pvp is to understand what def and DR do

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but people don't ask about it

tropic summit
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let's be honest, most ppl could hit top 4 by just running these 2 teams on attack KEKW

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things have gotten so silly with the addition of trina and helmt KEKL

lone sequoia
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yeah, those teams beat my 1.5~2 years old def teams in my main account

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too many atk tools

tropic summit
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too many foolproof atk tools*

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you can't defend realistically against those two unless you've really high investiment on DR

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or ofc le 💰

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even my opponent leviathan on 80+ level difference synch still loses on def against me

grizzled bone
keen vapor
tropic summit
tropic summit
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they've tried adding siren to prevent running scarlet with double buff, still wipes with indom KEKL

grizzled bone
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at the end of the day all i'm trying to do is provide some knowledge in a somewhat clear format. Lots of people dont even bother looking at the pins or checking our resources which would answer most if not all questions people would have about pvp

tropic summit
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else just give them those 2 teams i mentioned and let them brute force

grizzled bone
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honestly I dont even like the idea of giving standard teams cuz I feel like people will lazily use those and not bother learning but maybe an anecdote about it being a a starting point should be included

tropic summit
umbral crown
tropic summit
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that or just provide them those teams i linked earlier

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then ppl can build their blanc... emilia... cinderella... etc teams

grizzled bone
crystal flicker
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Both Prydwen and Discord has the same issue, too much text for the guide

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Only those who really want to learn will read everything, majority will just skip to Meta team

grizzled bone
spiral onyx
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Outdated

crystal flicker
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Ofc it's not all their fault, it's also PvP issue where majority of player base got locked in Diamond/lower

lone sequoia
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lv10 for units in stall comps are a must, but at the same time you don't need lv10 for the same units in other comps, the easiest way to know what skills you need is to notice the core in your comp, a nuke? skills in dps+buffer, a speed gimmick? the burst gen tool, cheap dmg? a better OL.
only noise lvl10 (depend in unit max hp) or blanc burst to get more dmg but probably just more lvls in your dps´buffer or pve units that you also use in pvp

grizzled bone
# spiral onyx Outdated

any new write ups in discord or show cases i should be aware of? Last showcase link i did was Trina

spiral onyx
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I need to do a write up for Siren but too tired atm and busy with work

grizzled bone
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i understand oldge

spiral onyx
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Haven't even caught up with the story

lone sequoia
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i bet on keripo and lost, that T4 didn't make it

grizzled bone
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this is the first time in awhile i've actually had some free time to update the channel a bit

lone sequoia
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xd

keen vapor
quick lake
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@unique wagon dies against scarjack SirenHuh

umbral crown
grizzled bone
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@spare brook you deleted your posts but we have receipts. Remember to be civil

keen vapor
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Never delete questions ChimeKisama

umbral crown
keen vapor
swift mango
#

I got Mihara is free pull!!!!poggies

umbral crown
keen vapor
swift mango
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All mine.SirenHuh

umbral crown
umbral crown
swift mango
umbral crown
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im trying to cook better teams this time

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so far new scar team is doing fine, need to test the rest

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but i only can test teams against 3 RL cindy and 2 variants of 2 and 3 RL scar

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my rookie bois are not really creative

swift mango
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Either her or MiranT

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But I will still put up with MiraT for this one more season.

umbral crown
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maybe miranda with scar?

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or another dps

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maybe with cindy?

swift mango
# umbral crown or another dps

MirandaT main purpose is the guarantee Crit that only work with nukes like Emi, Maxwell or SW....
So I will need to wait for Maxwell to see if she can be used in Arena

umbral crown
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if i had her i would put her in ein team

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maybe that would help her

swift mango
umbral crown
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if your Ein is built do the test and let me know

swift mango
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Could do in train ground even

umbral crown
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tohught you would test in pvp

swift mango
umbral crown
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is it

swift mango
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But may need 6+ fights to be sure because Crit RNG.

umbral crown
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your miranda max skil?

swift mango
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Currently 8 because that's enough for my emi

umbral crown
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go for it

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once i get her treasure done cuz i need copies will invest in her skills

swift mango
umbral crown
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there goes my future cook with her

keen vapor
#

EMILIA

swift mango
# umbral crown there goes my future cook with her

I just tested and whether the Crit applied or not depending on if her Normal attack hit before the wipe or not.

If you get her take cover and never shot after she burst all her wings hits would be Crit hit as well. Not just the wipe.

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100% Crit rate for the whole burst be like...

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Basically, Ein would have 100% Crit rate from the the start of full burst until she does her one normal attack. So if her wipe squeezed to that timing it would be guaranteed Crit.

swift mango
keen vapor
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:Doro wut da hell nitro less:

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Blood going to enter top 50 raid with this one NeonPoint

quick lake
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So in pvp, it all depends on whether her normal attacks hit first or nuke hit first?

quick lake
quick lake
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Hmmm hard to do so in pvp

swift mango
quick lake
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yeah sadge

quick lake
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Hmm, so Miranda’s crit buff actually isnt on the attacking nikke, but rather the receiving opponent has a “increased crit chance” proc

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Not so much of “my crit chance increased” but rather “opponent receives crit chance increased”

swift mango
keen vapor
quick lake
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Thats still kinda OP KEKW

swift mango
quick lake
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@swift mango does the 100% crit last… forever? until Ein shoots a shot? PepeTF

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Cause Miranda’s 85% crit chance technically doesnt have a time limit

swift mango
quick lake
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Omfg poggies

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That’s a perma 85% crit chance for feathers, at the expense of Ein never shooting a shot pepehmmm

keen vapor
grizzled bone
swift mango
#

Arena chat etiquette the pin.KEKW

swift mango
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People keep forgetting about it.

grizzled bone
#

good point

zinc lion
grizzled bone
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thank you NGV

quick lake
# swift mango

Cant find the numbers, but Ein and feather dmg seems to be like 40/60 split CrustDerp

quick lake
grizzled bone
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alright, hopefully the new pin is good enough to alleviate some of the questions and requests here

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remember to remind people to check the pins friends

thorn viper
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need help making a team

valid fern
coarse lake
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rosa dispel

valid fern
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oh shit I didn't realize mana rez worked that way, also didn't realize rosa dispel targets that way lol

coarse lake
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mana can't be highest 2 atk on team

thorn viper
valid fern
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did anybody manage to get their SG team to win against Scar Jack team?

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or am i full coping rn

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ima need a team that is both anti scarjack and anti SG at the same time. pepehmmm

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encountered way too many scarjacks in team slot 1.

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and I also anticpate copy cats slotting SG team in team 1 now since I did that this season and saw plenty of copy cats copy my flawed teams from last season lmao

coarse lake
#

2rl Noah cindy

valid fern
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2rl noah cindy gets owned by fully invested SG team

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from what ive seen

coarse lake
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Poor positioning issue

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The only other one is your own scar jack with Rosa

valid fern
#

how can you even position 2rl noah cindy vs SG team correctly. you can only put noah and noise on either sides and they both get owned by SG targeting shenanigans.

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I guess you just have to put Noah in p1 and pray the SG team is attacking side, pray your Noah survives til burst. And then pray you don't get Siren'd

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I'm actually so annoyed by Siren's pvp presence now.

coarse lake
#

Noise Rumani Noah Cindy Helmt, Noise taunt

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My team survived 4 SG Rosa with 2 being electric hitting Helmt, she got 2 shot before she fired, team became 4rl, still won

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Also fully immune to siren as a bonus

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Can out stall most double buff indom

valid fern
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Ah. Makes sense. I forget how having Noise taunt over Noah taunt is a thing, even though my own Noise is already configured to do that lmao KEKL

shy blaze
#

Need help for PvP teams

valid fern
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actually nvm it wouldnt matter since Rumani b1 backup

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Does Rosana concealment in P5 prevent defending SG's from targeting her?

swift mango
crystal flicker
crystal flicker
# shy blaze Need help for PvP teams

Since it's gonna take a while before you can catch up with the others at top 100 or more
I'll give "PvP team but you should invest to them first"

Scarlet Trina Rumani DrakeT Jackal
Noah Anis Cindy HelmT Noise
Moran Rapunzel/Siren Emilia Noir Centi

T1 and T2 is OK
T3 can replace Moran to Blanc and Noir to Biscuit if you get them later

Priority to get Helm's Treasure
Then T1 > T2 > Emi > Centi > Others
Scarlet HelmT Cindy Emi:
At least R15 Doll + 7/7/7 skill + full OL
Trina Rumani Noah Anis Jackal Noise Centi:
At least R15 Doll + 4/4/4 skill + full OL

Drake's Treasure after Helm's Treasure to complete Road to Villain (Drake's pass)
Others can wait after priority Nikkes for PvP, R15 Doll + Full OL

swift mango
#

Unrelated but I feel like I just team travelled all the screenshot from 6-7 years ago randomly pop up to my phone....

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This phone is old yeah but these pic should have been deleted long ago...

upper grove
#

should I build Ein for CA? Does she need CS? I need to build her for MC later anyway so asking ahead pepehmmm

swift mango
thick jetty
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hello,can anyone help me make a team? im not knowledgable when it comes to pvp so i dont know who to build

shell hazel
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for rookie or for sp arena? you'll struggle a bit there with your lack of some core units

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is that everyone? you can change the view to horizontal/landscape to capture more in one shot. ideal view is sorted by power

shell hazel
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for just 1 team you want to build around your best pvp nuker probably, in this case it's going to be cindy I think

lilac mural
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Use jackal and blanc as burst 1 and 2, you can also slot in siren as a stunner, for burst 3 I'd choose cindy and for flex just use your highest power nikke

shell hazel
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this might be your best team

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siren could swap with blanc position wise

lilac mural
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Imagine having drakeT at the 160 wall

shell hazel
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or blanc with cindy for cindy p4, but probably not much in it

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not sure someone did mention it though a day or two ago

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search for shuffle in the thing you'll probably find it

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btw work on treasure helm next she is both pvp meta and in the pve meta also

lilac mural
shell hazel
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yeah that is a pretty decent rookie team vs people who run auto comps

shell hazel
# thick jetty hello,can anyone help me make a team? im not knowledgable when it comes to pvp s...

notes:

  • finish Drake treasure off you may as well, you get enough materials in the event to do it.
  • set bulletin to helm treasure materials. You don't need to get Drake ones as the event gives you 160 which is all you need.
  • get Cindy doll to SR-15 eventually, she's both pvp and pve meta also. 10/7/10 skills.
  • get Jackal a doll and R-15 or SR-5 it. 4/4/4 skills and some OL if you can eventually also.
  • get Siren a doll and SR-5 as well if you can. 10/10/7 skills and some OL.
  • get Blanc a doll and SR-5 with 1/5/10 skills eventually. 1/5/7 budget. You can boost 1 to say 4 if you feel like it.
shell hazel
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I think that about covers basics for now. Cindy / Helm / Siren will have the most dual applications for both pvp and pve so focus on them if you can

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set wishlist to include Helm but you can use silver mileage for missing copies. Long term goal.

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Drake treasure is still good though and you can use her in both as well, especially if you expand to needing teams for SP arena

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Helm treasure has the highest burst gen in the game so well worth getting a copy, because with her in the team you can speed up your comps some + she is very good in pve

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I def can't get drake T before next CA btw, bond 11 or 12 and no tickets with like 4-5 days to go 😄

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I think the next level will give me enough mats to super success to SR-15 though maybe... if I'm lucky

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I accidentally put her skill 2 to 8 when I meant to do skill 1. so she's 8/8/7 atm. I think I'll aim for 10/8/7 for now and get her burst to 10 when I can

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rosanna is 4/7/4 so I'll boost her burst to 7 next

shell hazel
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I think 10/7/10 yeah, but I guess skill books are at least a bit less of an issue

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so maybe I'd wind up yolo to 10/10/10 one day

fathom rock
shell hazel
#

yes, I still have a queue of gear to do and rocks as well

tulip quest
#

she is useful

fathom rock
#

Bro what did reshuffle do to my brcaket ShiftyDerp

fathom rock
shell hazel
#

I have a full set of gear to OL on Drake at least, and most of Rosanna just missing one part

tulip quest
#

Yea im coping

shell hazel
#

yeah it's def cope, I wasn't ever going to invest in kilo for this anyway 😛

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I have fire asuka if I wanted a good gen purpose fire unit that is not yet built

tulip quest
#

but im NOT kidding when there is ppl who 5 5 5 5 her and 10 10 10

shell hazel
#

or modernia as well

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I mean I'm sure there are people that 10/10/10 Crow but doesn't make it a good idea 😄

fathom rock
calm kettle
#

@slender forge GigachadAnderson strike Doro

fathom rock
#

Everyone in rookie and thwir mothers are running p2 siren with 2rl scar now ShiftyDerp
Free wins

tulip quest
#

Siren

calm kettle
fathom rock
#

Like bro there are 2 easy counters to that def ShiftyDerp

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Why run it
Ross sac would be more consistent cuz peeps dunno how to counter

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Especially when they have rosa built

calm kettle
#

but sometimes lost thoo bcoz people sync up fast

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just enjoy to revenge2.

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acctualy u.u can beat 20-40k cp diffilct or defensed over void without hit. bcoz they burn out

shell hazel
#

@spare brook my map of stuff, I don't really want to go too heavily into pepper or SR Anis tbh. Some dolls I just need an SR one but my selector will probably need to go to siren for SR-5

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on the upcoming solo raid

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I have SR-5 on some others kind of pointlessly but oh well 😄

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like doro, and grave

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cp mainly I think, as I need cover repairer

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so I may as well wait until 301 and maybe I won't lose too much if I throw Naga back in

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looks like all the clears use Naga or Liter, and my Naga is much closer to being ready than my Liter is

slender forge
fathom rock
covert lintel
#

that's my rosanna food

swift mango
calm kettle
swift mango
#

Anis MVPpepehmmm

swift mango
#

Who would win?

A drunkard farmer with a sword? A retired pop star with a stinky butt? ShiftyDerp

covert lintel
#

farming gem from 730 to 800 tower for mihara, only to get pranked by fat girlShiftyDerp

calm kettle
swift mango
calm kettle
swift mango
raven plover
#

7 10 10 enough CrownHUH

swift mango
covert lintel
#

who's better for CA?

calm kettle
#

maiden

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Sg diff team

swift mango
calm kettle
#

old day maiden banger 🐳

swift mango
calm kettle