pvp-arena

[shell hazel]

SR Mihara? 😛

[swift mango]

200 gold tickets Mihara.

[shell hazel]

probably sensible move given how mine went

saving for collab next, I'm hoping for a random freebie in the free pulls otherwise think I'll just MLB Siren with mileage and save whatever is left

mihara will just have to stay on 1 copy

https://tenor.com/view/no-shake-my-head-golden-girls-smh-oh-man-gif-14406870892947143609

[swift mango]

Failed about 20 rock then got MLB siren.

Failed about 10 rock today then got Cocoa.

Glad my luck compensated.

[shell hazel]

I got like 6 tetra SSR and all were dupes 😦

I got two pilgrims, harran as well, and also modernia, at least mod was new

[swift mango]

I wanted Tetra dupes though.. They are full of Arena meta...

[shell hazel]

yeah problem was it was the rubbish ones

any tetra pull on ordinary banner is a missing unit

I then got a tetra mold and it was like belorta or w/e 😄

[swift mango]

I only put Arena meta dupe on Wish list now... Missing units can stay missing.

[shell hazel]

I'm missing 6 in tetra got at least 1 of all the other manufs

that even includes pilgrims now

I'll save my ordinary pull tickets for collab and see if I luck into any of the missing tetra ones

[swift mango]

That's some luck I don't have.

[shell hazel]

my luck is weird, sometimes it feels like I'm really unlucky, and other times it gets super lucky, but I have to brute force a lot

according to the game I've pulled 3800 times and these 6 tetra have dodged me through all of em

[swift mango]

You could count your tickets to exclude the friend pulls.

[shell hazel]

mileage ones? can't do that as I spent most of those

noah and helm dupes

[swift mango]

Well, still remember what I spent on.

1 Crown 1Rapipi 2 ReiA 1 XMaiden 2 Cindy 1 Grave

1 mihara

[fiery parcel]

This is the second place guy in my SP arena. He's been camping here since day 1. Dont think anybody tried to fight him because ppl can beat the #1 guy.

Do you guys think i got a fight?

[shell hazel]

cp deficit

[swift mango]

This plus 270 yellow mileage bring me to 2070 pulls from special banners

[fiery parcel]

I can spend CD to get 2 more levels. Probably not enough still? Im like 17 levels lower atm

[shell hazel]

like all 3 of your teams there are at deficit 😛

looks like the opponent invested some, probably all got 4OL

[swift mango]

Add around 70 ish free pulls without Mileage so around 2140 ish special banner pulls

50 discount more from new year banner counted I guess so 2190.

[shell hazel]

there is a rate you get free pulls at as well, like x per week, easier for me to assume that

[swift mango]

I only count pull from special banner

[shell hazel]

yeah I mean to exclude the social ones

if I know how many pulls I get per week on that I can exclude them kind of deal

[swift mango]

For standard

1 Privaty 2 Noise 1 LapT 1 Noah so I guess 1000 pulls add around 10 more mileage.

So I did around 2190 special and 1010 standard pulls in 1 year 2 months. With around 200 pulls worth of gem left.

[fiery parcel]

Ok, challenger 3 is very active. But challenger 4 is not so much.

[strange rain]

can someone pls help me fixx my rookie arena and sp arena teams

[swift mango]

You need to be Rosy, 1.9m at 361 to win in this bracket.

[fiery parcel]

Who's rosy?

[swift mango]

Ur CP is on the low side, my CP at 361 also around 1.8m.

@umbral crown

The most full Arena player in the sub 400 generation.

[fiery parcel]

I made my investment on campaign meta

I am slowly getting 4 OL after siren and midhara (and possibly drake if she treasures soon)

[restive willow]

What's campaign meta after you clear hard entirely :'(
Just raise characters for top 100 in solo raid

[fiery parcel]

So far my pvp base 4xOL are jackal, scarlet, biscuit, noah, xmaiden, blanc, laplaceT,
Skill wise Scarlet is 10/7/7, laplace is 4/4/7, xmaiden is 4/7/4, trina is 4/5/7 & blanc 4/4/5.

All relevant PVP (jackal, rumani, biscuit, noise, bay, rapunzel are 4/4/4

Im still at 26-17 in hardmode. Normal campaign is cleared. Hence the push for campaign meta

[shell hazel]

blanc wants more burst for sure, as chat was telling me yesterday 😄

at least 7

trina skill 2 I think also good, 7 there also

[fiery parcel]

Cindy, helmT, rhood, are the only pvp relevant (they are fully maxed out, OL gear and skills and SR dolls)

Ok. I got spare skill manuals since i didnt maxed out midhara (7/7/7)

[fiery parcel]

Ok done

[fiery parcel]

Unfortunately, i have some skill issue, and have not been able to clear hardmode 26-17

[shell hazel]

yeah I'm leaving mihara on 7/7/7 for now as well

eventual goal blanc burst at 10, which is something I need to do as well

[fiery parcel]

For pvp or raid?

[shell hazel]

pvp more so than raid

[fiery parcel]

Im not sure if i can get drake treasured before next week's SR. If rng hates me, ill be usingthe skill mats to bump blanc or someone else

Should jackal/noah/biscuit/rumani have higher skills? Or is 4/4/4 good enough?

[shell hazel]

nah think they OK on 4/4/4 esp if you got other stuff to work on

trina and blanc here for better buffs and such, has more impact

drake treasure I can't get before next SR but I'll use the materials I get from it to work on it, and siren SR-5 to SR-15 if I'm lucky

[fiery parcel]

I can get drake to fave item p3 if rng is nice to give me mats and get my SR doll from 7 to 15

Because i got a LOT of leftover from laplace fave item after treasuring her

[swift mango]

It's sad I don't if I could be able to get Drake Treasure at all... Need to SR15 my Siren first for CP padding.

[fiery parcel]

So can convert

[fiery parcel]

How far are you in hard campaign?

[swift mango]

27 hard, was there since 361 ish but still there now.

I could make it to map 28 if I tried but I don't have the times or focus for it. Lol

[dire root]

My chance at win cheer frame may end today, I don't feel good about any of these cheers.

[shell hazel]

yeah my Siren and Drake are at SR-5 so I'll see if I can get them both to SR-15

[swift mango]

I'm not behind in Campaign like other Arena players.

[shell hazel]

it's a maybe

not got the materials atm but if they buffed solo raid it's possible

[swift mango]

CP padding goes a long way for both campaign and Arena. Just need to pad the right units that could be used for both.

[fiery parcel]

You're higher than me.

And im a campaign first player

[shell hazel]

i'm going to tackle nihilister hard (ch 20) at sync 301 I think

should get 285 today

[swift mango]

CP pad goes a long way.

[shell hazel]

then I got mother whale to look forward to 😄

[fiery parcel]

I think my CP is as padded as possible

[fiery parcel]

I got trauma with MW

[shell hazel]

hence I'm not really in a huge rush for it

also then I'll get stuck on Nihilister again in 22 prob 😄

I'm at the end of main campaign so rest can trickle in as I get more levels

[swift mango]

My main campaign team were 670-690k at 361 ish.

[shell hazel]

here atm

[fiery parcel]

That's really high. I'm 364 sync, and im only doing 635k

And right now im really stuck at 26-17

[swift mango]

Yeah, I play on phone and I needed that CP pad.

You could be technical player like Retro and get to map 27 with your CP.

Or a minmaxer campaign like @pale knoll and get to ch28-29

[fiery parcel]

Skill issue

Not a good player. Probably just about average

[dire root]

Does drake stop top from bursting?

I'm assuming she kills jackal then maybe ruppe.

[pale knoll]

[dire root]

and then they burst and win.

[shell hazel]

well noise can burst

[swift mango]

Yeah, we can only be that way. No need for try hard.

[shell hazel]

they have no def against cindy

[dire root]

I wasn't sure if Drake had enough DPS to reach Cindy.

[shell hazel]

bear in mind jackal will link with cindy and maybe rupee

[dire root]

Noah is also going to stop that

[fiery parcel]

I still need to learn pvp properly

One of my biggest problem is the need to key in excel for every fight

Playing on the phone and using google sheets where the cells are made for ants

[swift mango]

Use the nikke.deck web app

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[dire root]

So it's
W/L
Don't know
L/W
W/L
W/L

Oh yeah forgot to factor in jackal, big feed.

[fiery parcel]

How to explain what the numbers mean?

[umbral crown]

[fiery parcel]

What does the %mean?

[crystal flicker]

Mihara scale off Final atk, lv 1 wont deal shit

[umbral crown]

[crystal flicker]

Burst gen %, 100% is where you cast your burst

[fiery parcel]

So this a 2RL team right

Ok. Then how about stall teams, how do those work? Moran / blanc / noise teams

How do you calculate them using the pvp calculator

[crystal flicker]

Mod = Mio
3.5RL with sacc goes to 2.5RL

Just off 5% from 2RL tho

[kind palm]

ensnaring chain need rng to apply to all enemy
I might have won if it applied to all 5 enemy on these

[crystal flicker]

Only for stall then

[kind palm]

if your team can't stall you usually can't wait for it to kill all enemies anyways

and not debuffing all 5 is harsh

[swift mango]

Did you finish your campaign normal mode btw?

[umbral crown]

Oh yes, normal is finished

[swift mango]

At least you got it done.

[umbral crown]

Just camping now in hard 21 for a while

[crystal flicker]

How to use stall team actually? I feel like they're pretty weak against 2RL Nuke in general

[kind palm]

you make fast stall team

[crystal flicker]

Quiry wont change things if they faced with 2RL Nuke

[swift mango]

The Nero Stall need to get Moran burst before Scar/Cindy Nuke. Then Rapu would survive to next cycle and Revive and win with 2 burst chain. Nero 100% Dr also survive.

Nero max skill 1. Sr10+ doll.

Moran max skill 3.

Rapu sr15.

[crystal flicker]

That's impossible then

[swift mango]

That's bare minimum for a good Nero team.

[crystal flicker]

You need to be 2RL to burst before 2RL Nuke

[swift mango]

No, you only need to be 2.8rl to burst 1 before 2rl burst 3.

[kind palm]

2.8?

[swift mango]

2.7 then

[kind palm]

[swift mango]

Around that much.

[crystal flicker]

You wont get that with stall tho

[kind palm]

save this

[kind palm]

probably 2.8 ig if enemy pure 2RL and no cs

[swift mango]

[kind palm]

moran buff is instant right? or some delay like noah?

there's 0.08RL time to kick in noah's buff

[swift mango]

Actually pure 3rl is fine according to this chart.

[crystal flicker]

3RL with Mio tho

[kind palm]

2RL B3 3.16
3RL B1 3.32 though

[dire root]

Siren about to do the funny.

[swift mango]

Okay.

[kind palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/763432197930745907/1363902511936966987/ebf12e685158e3bacb80371105816763.gif

really want more gen to use moran 2RL in multiple 2RL teams

[dire root]

Rip jackal ate the indom, failure.

[crystal flicker]

Seems like the only place for Mio is SG Sacc

[swift mango]

Not fast enough for 2rl.

Unless 2 sacc

[kind palm]

I say put her in a good 4 nikke team at p5 in case enemy got to be SG defender in CA lol

[crystal flicker]

2sacc too slow, unless you're defending against Sniper

[swift mango]

Could be fast enough though... If her 30 hits could fill 2% more.

to @bleak shale for his info.

[swift mango]

Add HelmT 17% trigger. Could be 2.8rl or close.

[crystal flicker]

94.47% 2.5

How many bullet / RL in CA again?

10?

[frigid mountain]

still no noah but got some more units and one of those is a RH. what are you thinking for the new team changes I should do? Im still chilling at challenger 5 rn and have been winning against the guys attacking me

[crystal flicker]

Nah, with 94.47% at 2.5
at 2.8 you'll only have 96.32% from Moran, Nero, and Mio (assume she survive 1RL)

[dire root]

I hope Ace wins or else I'm losing 2 cheers.

[dire root]

is jackal going to eat the indom in round 3?

[raven plover]

no

[dire root]

Yeah didn't think so.

[cursive pike]

is there a spreadsheet i can use to predict the outcomes of arena championship?

[coarse solstice]

Kind of, there is a web app and 2 different spreadsheets for calculating the teams speed in the pinned comments. To many variables to have a generic Rock Paper Scissors list

You can get a good sense by participating in chat/learning how others predict outcomes. Rail Rheax Blood Kisenix are all good resources

[dire root]

My frame is cooked in 16 minutes.

[grand plaza]

Do you know what are those bottom 2 lines?

[coarse solstice]

Bullets fired and I can't remember the other one

[grand plaza]

Biscuit fires 157 bullets?

[placid bloom]

bullet count by entire team by Nth RL shot and enemy burst gen from Jackal

it's 3.55% burst gen per 10 bullets eaten basically

doesn't factor in Scarlet counter because that's RNG

[grand plaza]

Oh that make sense

So this team creates %3.5 more burst gen to enemy jackal at 3RL right?

No thats not that, I guess I am a bit confused

[placid bloom]

no, it creates 46.15-49.7% because 130-140 bullets is 13-14 procs x 3.55% each

that's assuming they didn't burst by then

realistically you're losing at the 2RL bullet feed

because most good Jackal teams only need 1 proc to reach 2RL

which is exactly 10 shots even if every char on the enemy team is a RL/SR and shoots 1 bullet per volley

[grand plaza]

Damn thats a lot. No wonder Jackal is top at burst gen

Thanks

[bleak shale]

ur hitting cindy shield with rapu centi trina

[swift mango]

Yeah, figured it out after the comment.

[bleak shale]

[swift mango]

Would 30 hits from Mihara start battle+died quite a bit of burst gen? Like 2%?

Or they don't count and zero?

[bleak shale]

u should get a single tick of 20 stacks

on each person with debuff so .25

[swift mango]

[primal charm]

when did sanis released chat? does she rerun soon ( this summer)

[swift mango]

Maybe, maybe not

[primal charm]

she released last year or last last year

[swift mango]

Last last

[primal charm]

🥀

so high chance she will not come back this summer like xanne

[covert lintel]

summer alice will be more op

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-squirrel-look-back-gif-15516254

[swift mango]

Are u still in hobo?

Could you show your top 8 bracket?

[strange rain]

Worth investing in reg anis ?

[swift mango]

She is burst gen just OL her and equip a purple doll to help survival

[strange rain]

Skills 1 1 1 ?

[swift mango]

444 for CP pad if used in Rookie or SpA.

If you don't care about CA you could also skip her.

[dire root]

5/6

[shell hazel]

damn we lost in the final 4 😛

as we thought swing by match 1, my uninvested SG team probably didn't so good (haven't watched it yet)

[clear folio]

top 2! but got it wrong my t5 loss and t2 his indom sbs loss lmao

[covert lintel]

@raven plover i thought it will be a rematch between you and fahrenheit

[dire root]

lol

Biscuit stalled, Ein nuked, Rapi AoE was not enough.

[rotund swan]

good thing I bet on team 1 only because of this fight

[raven plover]

WAIT WHAT HE LOST

also @swift mango

oh shi I havent check his teams

I thought fahrenheit winning

[dire root]

Also rip I lost one of the cheers.

[rotund swan]

however, if someone can help me to have 3 def teams for sp arena? thanks

[clear folio]

indomed sbs couldnt finish the job

[grand plaza]

Rip

[swift mango]

Maybe I will have to ask you to arrange my team position next season.

[dire root]

This round was over in 2 seconds lmao no one even bursted the top team just instantly died. I guess no overloaded gear.

[grand plaza]

Soda died while game is loading

[dire root]

Drake got 2 tapped

I guess drake had like 3 HP

[placid bloom]

well it's same speed indom and Moran is the indom target, so even if everyone on both team wipes it's Moran vs SBS when indom wears off and Moran has fire speed advantage

[dire root]

No health at all

[swift mango]

Dude gonna win this champ thanks to his Soda. @kind palm you could be proud of this disciple.

[onyx scaffold]

sadge

i cannot get rich with this mode. worst mode ever

[dire root]

That round looked like the top team was fighting at like a 30% deficit

but there is no defict in CA

That is how fast they died

[placid bloom]

I predicted W/W/L/?/L and the only thing I wasn't sure about was whether round 4 Siren could stun before dying to Scarlet counter, so it was a coinflip for me. Ended up losing to coinflip

goodbye loser gamble frame

seem like Siren countering 2RL Scarlet is fake

dies to skill 2 counter every time

[kind palm]

smg pewpew too much 30% counter proc like crazy and if you unlucky it might be a lot more than 30% of the time lol

[clear folio]

streaks over, i think i lose to cup in finals lel. meme team 3/5 auto lose

[placid bloom]

I knew Soda was the real play, can't believe I got baited into using Siren

[raven plover]

honestly I just swap around my s1 teams and pray I noticed people put SGs on t5 and scar t3, thats pretty much it, I put noah cindy t3 and moran biskit t5. I was... right and make it this far

[swift mango]

Yeah and I will ask you to arrange my team next CA.

[raven plover]

sure

[swift mango]

Noice

Tyvm

[kind palm]

to prove that scar soda trina is meta

[swift mango]

Champ always win RNG, no chance to win against Soda.

[onyx scaffold]

@raven plover u put centi on jackal team to reach 2RL?

[raven plover]

I put anis there

[swift mango]

Stun 2 might as well be stun 5

[onyx scaffold]

the pic u sent me didn't

[raven plover]

I was under impression that CP gap exist on CA so I balanced my CP, centi on other team

[onyx scaffold]

send updated teams -. -

[raven plover]

ye that one swapped cus the CP

same teams but swap anis and centi

[onyx scaffold]

jackal b1 not risk against mermaid? tbh i think u can still burst before getting stunned but idk how the stun works

[raven plover]

team is 2 RL with feed and jack is b1 so all good

[onyx scaffold]

it can reach 2RL ?

[raven plover]

we pray

[placid bloom]

should be, Mermaid is more than 40 bullet at 2RL

[raven plover]

add quantum jack anis maiden

[swift mango]

Yes but need 40 bullets feed

[onyx scaffold]

i dont have anne. how to copy these teams

[shell hazel]

loading glitch 😛

[raven plover]

yolo with naga

[placid bloom]

even if all the other char is SR/RL they will fire 8 bullet at 2RL

so 4 Jackal proc minimum

[simple flower]

Do u vote with majority?

[onyx scaffold]

nah i just suck

[shell hazel]

siren stuns were annoying probably stopped me bursting as well. I'm working some on the SG team now so they're a bit more of a threat next time

not sure what skill levels I want for drake treasure though

[swift mango]

No

[simple flower]

I lose everytime i vote with majority

[high stream]

Thank you so much
I have Jackal and Rumani already wishlisted, but so far no luck.

[simple flower]

Vote minority for the win

[swift mango]

Vote for the one you know will win

[simple flower]

Help me pick plz

[blissful willow]

<@&946725432554836008>

[shell hazel]

yay steam gift

[swift mango]

Right

[simple flower]

Score ?

[swift mango]

Believe in soda

[simple flower]

I got
Right
Left
Right
???
Left

[grand plaza]

Why did she stun Naga tho

[swift mango]

Right
Right unless they are idiot and Blanc indom RH instead of ass
Right
Believe in soda so right, if not left.
Right, unless they bring uninvested Nero team.

[coarse solstice]

GL to the finalists! @worthy sorrel and @clear folio

[blissful willow]

Bruh

[onyx scaffold]

Did he kill before anyone bursting lmao

[valid fern]

sg team can do that

[simple flower]

Noah dying first = No Burst for u

[onyx scaffold]

4 ele soda ig

[simple flower]

Maybe report that japanese name lol

" I really love little girls "

[raven plover]

well max core SGs as well

[onyx scaffold]

Why does shotgun attack p5 when attacking

[simple flower]

Taunted perhaps

[onyx scaffold]

There are worse names

[swift mango]

Their Rumani probably got nuke by Rossanna

[simple flower]

only Helm + Noise get nuked

unless Noise died
which is questionable

[swift mango]

Noise ded to SG ofc. It's nothing questionable herem

[valid fern]

dice frame imminent.

[onyx scaffold]

Welp I will wait for his vid

[shell hazel]

not sure, but I think that prevented any attempt at burst I had left 😛

oh maybe rosanna concealment

[simple flower]

U can only cheer yourself?

[onyx scaffold]

Nah. He can cheer his opponent

[valid fern]

made the mistake of cheering opponent once last season. not making that same mistake again

[swift mango]

It's normal, my Product 23 died, then siren stun my p2 B2 result in a loss.

[simple flower]

I mean
if u're in the competitiion
it only allows u to cheer your match ?

[onyx scaffold]

Yeah

[shell hazel]

yup

[simple flower]

fair

[shell hazel]

yeah I'll have to include Siren in my next teams somewhere

her stun adds an RNG/win possibility

[coarse solstice]

Not by much...

[grand plaza]

Oh yeah you are right.

I think either way it was rip tho, investment diff sealed the deal

[valid fern]

My siren meme team not doing well. Too hard to build with her considering I lack Emilia

[shell hazel]

even then not hugely, they had treasure drake

[onyx scaffold]

Sure sure

[shell hazel]

I knocked out 2/3 of their team at least, and was only 3-2 in matches, so was pretty close

[grand plaza]

If Rosanna was invested she could kill Drake and Viper. She was the one dealing the damage to them from what I can see, even while not invested

[swift mango]

Gonna make all 5 of my teams immune to Siren next season.

Already done building. Only need to test dmg.

[bleak shale]

will u be immune to everything else as well tho

<@&946725432554836008>

[shell hazel]

yeah, I'm going to work on her a bit, added some skills at least

[swift mango]

At least my Biscuit team won't lose to SBS even without taunt

[covert lintel]

first shot only

[swift mango]

I should have been champ this season if I remembered to do that modified

[bleak shale]

[valid fern]

my Moran got siren'd . And my biscuit died before dispensing a second invuln. Still won somehow

[swift mango]

[covert lintel]

how is your miranda?

[swift mango]

Like, Crow, just to be consult.

[grand plaza]

Next time don't let us down

[swift mango]

Peeps will find a way to make Miranda meta I swear. Just not me.

[swift mango]

I doubt it, more like Noah P5 taunt.

[swift mango]

Bad team with zero stake even SBS p1 to burst and ded asap

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/gomen-gomenasai-gomenasai-anime-gif-25313580

happy with how far we got anyway, especially considering some of the low invest stuff thrown in 😛

I'll upload the matches later to youtube

[covert lintel]

meta for pvp or pve?

[swift mango]

Arena ofc she is okay to use in PvE and will be meta when they fit her s3 bug or sth.

[covert lintel]

s3 bug? her burst?

[swift mango]

Idk, check the feedback chat I guess. I just saw union mentioned about it. Not sure what it is.

[keen vapor]

Well, you could replace Alice with RH

RH won't have a problem with reloading in the middle of burst after all

[swift mango]

I think her burst being pretty useless or something, there were not much improvement in dmg whether she burst or not.

[grand plaza]

Yeah well done

[clear folio]

can moran taunt all of cindys burst? or will cindy hit everyone?

[shell hazel]

also her damage on indivilia is a bit meh due to how the boss cleanses debuffs

[placid bloom]

cannot be taunted, but Cindy hits randomly so if Moran is Biscuit'd there's a chance she soaks more hits anyway

[keen vapor]

You better Moran Bay against it

[clear folio]

i see tyty

[grand plaza]

This match aside, a general question

What happens if both teams has scarlet and also 2RL, coin toss?

[placid bloom]

hmm depend on server priority I guess does it apply attacker burst first

[clear folio]

my match comes down to this, noah screws me and i lose right? im attacking

[placid bloom]

you should lose to AoE nuke since Moran is your Blanc target

it didn't even matter if they had Noah or not, your Moran can't clean up their team

[grand plaza]

Thats the team bot went against last match and they lose (bot was defender)

Also wasn't Siren supposed to stun Scarlet here

[umbral belfry]

Sbs vs a noab bisc team is 99.9% gg

if your blanc was your main b2 maybe there should've been a better chance but

[placid bloom]

every Siren I see dies to Scarlet counter, I'm getting baited by all these people saying Siren counters 2RL Scarlet

[lunar pawn]

did zlabs win

[placid bloom]

lost my bet because of that

[clear folio]

ok voting cup for the coin toss frame 🤣

[grand plaza]

Yeah looks like not

I don't see a stun here
https://i.imgur.com/ep9ECgT.mp4

[placid bloom]

you need high level tempering cube and enemy Scarlet has to be weak, and even then it's not guaranteed she survives

[grand plaza]

I am not sure but there might be a bug here? Because when I check closely she spends more than 50 ammo for sure

There is no missing on arena right?

[placid bloom]

it's too low res, can't see bullet count

if you have video editting software you can go frame by frame

and look at the frame right before she dies

[grand plaza]

By ammo numbers she should definitely stun before b3

[valid fern]

viva la vida jumpscare

used to listen to that on repeat back in the day. good times

[grand plaza]

I just let Youtube decide what I listen

[valid fern]

hm yeah im surprised she didn't get the stun off.

[grand plaza]

I probably started with this one

https://youtu.be/XwjSLwVLNgo?list=RDSte1AG5B2Fw

Then yt did the rest

[placid bloom]

oh shit I see why

Siren goes down to 75 ammo (45 total used), refills to 111 because B1, so her stun is supposed to land at 106 ammo remaining

[sleek imp]

In sp arena, should I battle right away or wait a couple hour then catch up

[placid bloom]

look what timing Scarlet starts to reload behind cover

[grand plaza]

Lmao she iframe it?

[sleek imp]

I always slide out of challenger when people logs on

[placid bloom]

this is probably the craziest shit I've seen lmao

[valid fern]

oh shit. no way she actually iframed

time to optimize scarlet ammo lines now

[placid bloom]

0 ammo Scarlet actually the meta

[sleek imp]

Always have been

[keen vapor]

[placid bloom]

[keen vapor]

Who could have thought I could be invincible

[grand plaza]

Nice catch tho

[keen vapor]

@swift mango take that ammo believer

[valid fern]

thats not zero ammo line tho. she at 29

also blood was more of a crit advocate over ammo. lol

[keen vapor]

not again

[grand plaza]

Perfect counter to Siren wow

I wonder if that would be consistent

[valid fern]

well, in any case I think i prefer scar blanc now which already counters siren anyways

[covert lintel]

the improvement is just from 1 dps to 2 dps buff
she really need a b2 CDR crit buffer to become a meta in pve, in pvp change CDR to clip sg or clip RL crit buffer

[umbral belfry]

surely I don't mess up the cheer now

sure would be a shame

[placid bloom]

I already failed

[keen vapor]

What I'm supposed to do with Trina then

[umbral belfry]

[onyx scaffold]

Drake skill for pvp?

[placid bloom]

it feels worse failing loser frame, at least if you fail winner frame you have 5/6 credits as pity

[onyx scaffold]

The credits barely fix anything

[valid fern]

you still use her lol. scar blanc trina

[placid bloom]

but now I know Siren is true bait against Scarlet

Soda is better

[umbral belfry]

Also just realized I'll either would've lost to first or 2nd place again 😭

idk if this is just bad luck or what

[coarse solstice]

Yeah if biscuit was swapped with Blanc might go different

[shell hazel]

I lost Hime

[clear folio]

yeah i accept my defeat and going for the winbet frame 😆

[lone sequoia]

sk-l... rng issue

[coarse solstice]

I wanted to get the loss frame but I bet on you to win then you went and did it! 😭

Still GGs I'll just have to be better at failing next season

[umbral crown]

Miranda will need some more test to be viable

[umbral belfry]

this is the end of your CA revenge crash out era

[shell hazel]

until the next CA revenge crash out era 😄

[coarse solstice]

Hime I got it last time Cup is getting it this time. When you going to get that bougie frame.... LOCK IN 📢

[shell hazel]

you guys need to send teams in an order where Hime can beat them... 😛

match fixing confirmed

[umbral belfry]

my turn

Also I got lap+ last night

[shell hazel]

hacks!

[coarse solstice]

let's go!

Now you just need to Get Viper to Stage 2 (Stage 3 Bad)

[shell hazel]

I'm going to work on drake next, and siren to SR-15, then I'll look at lap+ after that I think

[heady peak]

Box? Box doko?

[shell hazel]

box doko

[heady peak]

Idk what that means sorry

[shell hazel]

In Japanese, "doko" (どこ) means "where." It's used as a question word to inquire about locations, similar to "where" in English

[coarse solstice]

Just drop 12k gems and you can finish road to villan ezpz drake treasure and an ass ton of mats

[shell hazel]

I can but I don't actually have 12k gems anymore 😄

mihara bled my pulls dry

[shell hazel]

I'll just work through that in order, save me 40 pulls worth of gems towards collab, I need time to OL drake anyway

[heady peak]

By box.... does he mean my waifu box... aka character stats?

[shell hazel]

your units sir

post your units ordered by power

[heady peak]

Aah ok

[shell hazel]

can't cook your teams without knowing who you have and who is invested vs not

[coarse solstice]

Like this

[heady peak]

Ok.

[shell hazel]

but like do landscape if you on mobile

or you need a lot of images

[heady peak]

@tropic summit

Current champion arena teams for reference

[restive willow]

What's the minimum cs that you need on your first unit to avoid losing burst gen against siren? As in, for a 3RL team, putting an RL in p1 and making sure it shoots before the stun, so that even if that nikke can't use burst, the overall burst timing is still unchanged at 3RL

I tested that 8.96% cs does allow the p1 RL unit to shoot its 3rd shot right at siren's 50th shot is fired (and the frame later the p1 unit gets stunned) but I'm not sure if that's the absolute minimum. I know that at 4.92%, p1 gets stunned before it can shoot the 3rd shot (would have been the same time as siren's 52nd shot)

[coarse solstice]

Any line of CS is enough

IIRC**

[restive willow]

It seems not to be the case

Without CS, 3rd shot is fired when siren shoots her 54th shot. At 4.92%, that becomes 52nd. At 8.96%, 50th (so this works)

[coarse solstice]

If that's what you tested Id go with that. I'm just regurgitating what I've heard said here before. Haven't personally tested.

Could you test 4.92 with CS cube level 7

Might be viable as well

[heady peak]

So is siren actually pvp good... i saw her kit.. and it seems it could work. But what needs to be used with her to work?

The stun is only one nikke or all?

[coarse solstice]

She stuns P1. SSS in Rookie arena because she can stop 2RL Noah. She's is good in SP and CA stuns right before 3RL. Also a buffer. So if you have a flex spot in a slower team she can be solid

Maid Soda works better as a Noah counter in Scarjack for CA and SP

[restive willow]

She can stop 2RL Noah with lower than around 10% CS, which is hard to get

[coarse solstice]

Well in my bracket it is pretty reliable 😂 nobody has gear on Noah yet

[placid bloom]

her stun can be blocked by cover, but only 20 ammo AR reload that early. So it's just Scarlet specifically atm.
She is just generally better at countering 3RL

[grand plaza]

Does 3RL Noah stop 2RL Cindy burst

[coarse solstice]

So Bastian/Ammo Lines on Scarlet is Bad

[coarse solstice]

I think partially

[daring gust]

Need help. It should be R/R/L/R/R right?

[spiral onyx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ICCc1sZwSs

[coarse lake]

I feel bad for keripo's bracket

almost no one else gonna get champion frame, zeus simply got extremely lucky

any future winners will have to be the same

[lone sequoia]

next fight depends in his noise and rumani team

[coarse lake]

vs what?

oh against sg? hmm

[lone sequoia]

SG team in atk

[coarse lake]

he'll be fine

[lone sequoia]

should be fine but depends in ele dmg, the team cover elements

[coarse lake]

that's still only 3 sg

isn't gonna kill both noise and rumani in time

[green summit]

anyone have any idea who will win the freeze finals?

[lone sequoia]

i don't know who is that guy

[green summit]

剣時間　vs freeze

[hushed kelp]

Is it worth putting in product 23 in p1 sg team for the sacc in CA?

[dim sapphire]

Who you got ? Vinos or that chinese

I picked chinese symbol guy

The underdog right now

Sg will rekt his scarlet

Before t1 can even burst with scarlet

[lone sequoia]

probably for the first seasons of CA, people will need investment in the units and sacc from a unit in your team depends in the dmg from the enemy team most of the time and sacc vs sacc is a loss if you are -1 unit

[valid fern]

why? all they have to do is copy his teams and investments. They'll get lucky afterwards eventually. There's only so many meta comps. Eventually everyone will be using the same stuff.

[pale knoll]

<@&946725432554836008>

[grand plaza]

11 copies with golden tickets... my heart

[lone sequoia]

team synergy change at speed and investment, 1 ammo line more in X unit can change the outcome of the battle in some match ups, more dupes, def, cs, crit rate or skills lvls, in some teams you want lower rapu burst lvl and in other max is fine

DR team (nero/quiry) can tank 2RL if you have cs to reach 2.5 at 3RL you will lose, at the same time 2.5RL is weaker against sanis stall than 3RL

[shell hazel]

posted my matches here from semi-final if anyone is interested (maybe @tropic summit wants to see when he gets online)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNdlWUqiZtc

and @spare brook wants to see my SG team battle I'm sure of it 😛

[valid fern]

hilariously I saw multiple people copy my flawed comps 1:1 from last season.

[shell hazel]

my team 3/4 have been pretty beastly don't think they've lost any matches

[lone sequoia]

no CA for me in my main or alt account

people just spam gems

good for SU

[shell hazel]

I think I may have won match 1 if my Rosanna was better invested

and yep checked it, my 3/4 won every match they went into

drake aim for treasure for my SG team, rosanna I already did a bit more into

and siren from SR-5 to SR-15 if I can

yeah those are done

[lone sequoia]

SG rosanna is cheap

the problem is how to get a "good" rosanna, she is a expensive unit

[shell hazel]

core team is all on SR-15

[lone sequoia]

first 4atk lines+1ammo(?)-then 2ele or go for the 4crit rate lines

[shell hazel]

well my rosanna was 1/1/1 and no OL and no doll levels 😛

so like almost anything improves that 😄

I got her to 4/4/4 at least, same with Drake, I can take them both higher up just need the materials

[lone sequoia]

at the end* you want something like 4 atk/crit rate- 2ele-2 ammo in rosanna, really expensive for something that is weaker in CA against scarlet

or you build def in your units to reduce the low % skills

[shell hazel]

people at my sync won't have massively invested into units like rosanna I think

I can sort of get away with running just basic any OL's I can get probably

i'll just approach it kind of the same way I do now, adding OL + any lines at all is better than nothing

I can spend rocks later to improve things

[leaden canyon]

out of curiosity how do I beat this

[shell hazel]

I don't have her but think emi nuke is delayed, you need to slow your team down to catch it maybe

[leaden canyon]

I kill emilia and lap but hood survives and noah does not stop hood for long

[shell hazel]

you're also at cp deficit...

[leaden canyon]

damn

[placid bloom]

don't need Noah for this, it's winnable with 3RL Siren Cindy. You want to match speed so that Emi can burst but die to Cinderella with indom shut down by Siren.

but at that deficit Idk if doable

[leaden canyon]

it would be a different cp for team with a siren cindy team

[hushed kelp]

You can throw blanc indom off with sg on your team

But yeah cp diff is your biggest problem

[placid bloom]

you can even be omega greedy and run this without getting punished

[lone sequoia]

you don't understand, the team synergy for SG rosanna is ok in SG team, your SG should deal the dmg (kill the units) and rosanna work as a burst gen unit with her S2 which give burst and buff her atk (S2 nothing to do with her full OL), in other teams she must tank or kill the attackers in the opponent teams (kill pressure and need good OL) sbs with bad OL is an ok dps but have different uses, ele dmg in wind weak or full atk for neutral in pvp you only need atk and good buffers, ele will be fine against... iron unit with the lowest def in the enemy team...

it is a unit with problems and the only way to reduce them is with good OL, dupes and SR15/tempering

[leaden canyon]

cp issue, jackal just ways it down. jackal is 191k, siren 209 and crown 219

[hushed kelp]

Does cindy burst go off before blanc?

[placid bloom]

there is no Blanc burst with Siren

[hushed kelp]

Tru

[placid bloom]

it's Biscuit

[placid bloom]

can't fix then

[leaden canyon]

damn, its the whale in my bracket

[placid bloom]

unless you wanna try slow Blanc mirror but that's probably also CP gap

cuz I doubt your Blanc more invest than Crown

[leaden canyon]

whats the team

shes more

invested

[hushed kelp]

Crown damage buff could be enough to take down redhood?

[placid bloom]

[leaden canyon]

blanc instead of crown on that team makes it this

[shell hazel]

you need to be at least this tall (have this much CP) to fight this ride

[placid bloom]

I think Siren gets the indom there

[leaden canyon]

I need redhood on the team then

[placid bloom]

but I don't actually think it matters who gets indom

only thing that matters is entire enemy team wipes except invin Blanc

and once Biscuit invin runs out she dies

[lone sequoia]

just 2RL scarlet

[leaden canyon]

[placid bloom]

Scarlet might die to LapT charge shots before burst

well maybe not with Jackal

[hushed kelp]

Have you tried that team yet?

[leaden canyon]

I just remembered she wont be linked here

[placid bloom]

but she's getting shot at by RH and LapT ele advantage

[leaden canyon]

of course not

[lone sequoia]

the only problem is the cs in the enemy team, can blanc burst before scarlet hit(?

[placid bloom]

oh then she's 100% dead

[lone sequoia]

if you have good biscuit or noise a team core with noah/noise/biscuit should win...your RLs have time to kill emi...

but people don't build ele dmg in supporst...

[leaden canyon]

[lone sequoia]

do you have ele dmg in noise and biscuit?

[placid bloom]

won't work lol, they have so many B3

[leaden canyon]

just 23% on both

[lone sequoia]

only work if he kill emi

[placid bloom]

LapT the only one there with max doll, probably the one getting one shot by Helm

unless his RH Atk line is really good

[lone sequoia]

not with helm but cheap dmg, i think the 2RL scarlet is better if he have cs or no cs in the enemy team

[leaden canyon]

I cant do 2Rl scar because team cp too low

[placid bloom]

Scarlet don't work at CP gap and seem like lowest Atk so can't even Jackal link to protect from RH and LapT shots

[lone sequoia]

2RL scarlet/trina can win around 25% deficit

with emi and laplace should be safe around 18~20%

[placid bloom]

you can try to fix your Jackal links

but that probably drops your CP more

[leaden canyon]

it would

this stall team is 2.5 btw because helm has 17% cs

[lone sequoia]

do you have a video?

[leaden canyon]

no

[lone sequoia]

wait, blanc team or your team?

[leaden canyon]

my team is stall

[strange rain]

win?

[placid bloom]

how much CP if you run this

[coarse solstice]

Which all champs are in the finals again besides Freeze?

[leaden canyon]

wrong hood lol

[placid bloom]

I think it's doable, no indom on their Blanc and you shoot back to front with RH who is guaranteed to be indom target

so you kill Biscuit first

unless Emi splash on Siren messes you up somehow

how much HP diff between RH and Siren

[lone sequoia]

just use jackal, any dps+blanc should win against a team without noah/biscuit or blanc

even ssrapi as main dps

[lone sequoia]

or low cp on jackal?

[placid bloom]

should be okay

[leaden canyon]

190k

[placid bloom]

he doesn't need Jackal, there is no space for Jackal and she does nothing

[leaden canyon]

also siren has tempering on

[placid bloom]

it's not a speed race

nothing on enemy team beats Biscuit Blanc p1, he's just getting a little splash from LapT and Emi

[lone sequoia]

pick snipers or siren or nuke or just rosanna

or use blanc ein

she will win at the same speed

[spiral onyx]

My upcoming matchup:

• T1: I should lose, Siren will stun my Blanc, I will burst first with Scalter but I doubt I'll be able to kill Cindy before Cindy bursts and wipes me. Unless his 0LB Little Mermaid dies to my Emilia and Centi before her stun lands, but I doubt it.
• T2: I should win, I don't think they can burst through my Noise + Rumani before I burst, Cindy should clear wipe
• T3: I should win, Helm will get taunted by Moran and his team is much slower anyways
• T4: I should lose, his Blanc will indom his Scarlet before my Scarlet bursts
• T5: Probably my loss. My SGs will fail to kill Anis due to Biscuit and his Noah should be able to burst. But if he somehow kills my Poli and lets my Rosanna burst, his MLB Emilia and C5 Red Hood will probably get 1-shot by my Rosanna and die
  Overall, I predict a loss on my side

[lone sequoia]

max cored emi and atk%?

[leaden canyon]

damn what are the chances your sg team goes against a noah biscuit

bad luck

[spiral onyx]

C7 but not atk%, so likely wont be able to

wait, I lied

40.9% atk

so maybe lol

SR15 doll too

[leaden canyon]

Guessing scar team is still 2RL because scarlet s2 right?

[placid bloom]

Jackal

[leaden canyon]

and jackal yeah

[coarse solstice]

Finals twice one of the best records so far

[placid bloom]

no repeat champs this time?

[coarse solstice]

Freeze is the only one I heard about

[placid bloom]

first sparkler

[lone sequoia]

2RL scarlet vs 2.2 scarlet/blanc(?)

[spiral onyx]

Even if I fail this time, I'll get it S3, trust

my S3 teams will be stronger than S2's

[spiral onyx]

2RL Scarlet likely wont burst before 2.5RL Blanc

but my 2RL Scarlet comp has lots of charge speed so its actually more of a 1.7RL

still likely not faster than 2.5RL Blanc

[lone sequoia]

even with cs is hard, rapu will revive blanc if you kill her fast

[spiral onyx]

if Blanc gets revived, Centi will burst

there's a slight delay in the rez

[lone sequoia]

praying for a kill during cast?

[spiral onyx]

yup, timing is key

charge speed is king

[coarse solstice]

My rolls for SBS trust in the CS%

[lunar pawn]

17% CS thelm makes sense? how big of a difference would she make

[lone sequoia]

more speed in some teams

make 3RL DR team work against 2RL nuke teams

[placid bloom]

extra shot at 2.5 timing, I don't think it matters that much for 2RL timing unless your entire team is also 17%

[lone sequoia]

depending in cs and burst gen you can get faster 2RL teams

[placid bloom]

in which case you are 2RL but your shots fire faster than their 2RL

[shell hazel]

what skill levels do we rec for OK built DrakeT and Rosanna? I can't get them maxed in one day but I can work on em

[lone sequoia]

i don't know about drake but rosanna depends in her team, 4/7/7 or 7/10/7~10 at some point if you still use rosanna, her burst should be lv10

in SG team just get better OL in your SGs

S1 from lv 4 to lv7 dispel increase to 5 buff, some teams still can stack more than 5 and keep the good ones to "counter" rosanna

[shell hazel]

makes sense, I'll look at 4/7/7 at least, I can go a bit higher I think

anyone got comments for DrakeT?

[green summit]

any idea on this finals?

[sour siren]

Tried. Sadly Scarlet team didn’t work for T1 or T2.

[shell hazel]

what is your cp like, are you at deficit here?

you don't show it above, if your cp is less than 85% of opponent CP you'll likely die no matter what you run

[coarse solstice]

For Draket if youre not bursting I have mine at 774 but I don't know if that's right

[leaden canyon]

that team worked

[warm vortex]

worth building rosanna for pvp?

[sour siren]

I’m at deficit. But the CP are close. Ignore T3.

[crystal flicker]

Mio sacc isn't bad (Dmg wise), but we don't have good enough stall for her

[shell hazel]

nah you're fine, your CP is within 85% range so you're not at deficit here

worth noting you're meant to run cindy team against scarlet not opponent scarlet team

[normal shard]

sorry if this is asked before but how would a cindy team look like if it is going to counter SCar?

[shell hazel]

you've taken the team positions literally and run left team 1 against right team 1 without checking that right team 1 was the right one 😄

per rail image:

[crystal flicker]

Depend what kind of Scar comp?

[shell hazel]

your scar/jack into their SBS team, your noah/cindy into their scar/jack

[normal shard]

this is the scar comp

also rosana will strip my jackal buff?

noah/cindy/and biscuit perhaps

[sour siren]

I followed the team suggestion in the pic. Left T3 works fine. But left T1 cannot defeat right T1 or T2.

[crystal flicker]

Noah Centi/Anis Cindy HelmT Noise

Noah Biscuit Cindy HelmT Rumani

[normal shard]

ty

[keen vapor]

Guys? How many CS does Helm need to hyper boost teams?

I mean apart from 17%

[crystal flicker]

21%

[normal shard]

also is it better to go over 17% charge speed or is that overkill/deminishing returns/breakpoint?

[crystal flicker]

17% is enough for most

[shell hazel]

this is an old image?
#pvp-arena message

[crystal flicker]

Some exceptions like Emi for 38%

[keen vapor]

1% short oh well, one day

[normal shard]

whoa 38?

even with her skill

[keen vapor]

So 21 as well without skill 1 CS

[sour siren]

Yes. But above team remains same.

[normal shard]

so charge speed cube is super worth?

[crystal flicker]

I mean max cs is 6.09%
x 4 = 24.36%

[normal shard]

thats black line prob

[shell hazel]

maybe do updated images showing right team maps because otherwise you mention t1 but it's not the same order that rail had

[normal shard]

thats pretty interesting

[shell hazel]

and your t1 is not your t1 anymore 😛

[wanton island]

how we doin fellas?

[crystal flicker]

Actually it's 24% (with cubes and everything)

[keen vapor]

It is for me.... Wait, not super worth

Just worth

[shell hazel]

100 gems today, blood would be proud

[keen vapor]

THAT MEANS I NEED AT LEAST 2 BLACK CS LINES

:Deadge: 🪦

[high stream]

What would be the single strongest Rookie Arena team u can build?

[keen vapor]

Can't

[normal shard]

they all have a counter

[high stream]

I understand there are counters for certain teams and such. But .. if we leave that fact out for a second .. what would be I guess .. ONE of the strongest teams u can build in Rookie Arena?

[wanton island]

little noah... little scarlet with blanc abd siren and boom. you win

[sour siren]

Thanks. I’ll share tomorrow.

[keen vapor]

Well, if you have 40 levels above everyone else then you can make a team giga padded and be invincible

[high stream]

I mean .. this is what my Rookie arena looks like right now. We either have people that just pad a ton of CP .. and some that have I guess .. pvp builds?

The only person I can't beat right now is that guy from the Comrades guild.

I'd like to be able to consistently beat everyone here.

[keen vapor]

I see no PVP teams

[high stream]

I figured. I'm in my second month playing

So maybe help me out? :<

[wanton island]

noah scarlet blanc jackal siren

[normal shard]

what units do you have?

[keen vapor]

If you ain't even at 160 you wouldn't even have the options we usually have

[normal shard]

you could prob make use of siren

[high stream]

This is what I have right now

And I'd really like to be #1 in my Rookie Arena roster. I'm sure I can do it.

[keen vapor]

Like
What's the point of telling you to use Blanc Emilia RH biscuit Helm if you'll never have Emilia

[wanton island]

you got the team. just do it

[normal shard]

you cand ef use scar and trina

[high stream]

No Jackal yet. Not lucky.

[lone sequoia]

no reason to use noah and blanc in the same team, also siren is bad in 2RL teams, she is a unit that only weaken burst chain or give you time in slower teams

[keen vapor]

Noah biscuit RH Centi Trina

[wanton island]

welllllll id use siren against noah 1 teams but you got a point. skip siren

[lone sequoia]

how many people use 3RL teams in rookie?

[wanton island]

actually

siren works off b1

[lone sequoia]

if you talk about picks for different teams is ok

[wanton island]

she can be last

[high stream]

Okay .. CP would need some work here. What do I do about skills and such?

[keen vapor]

No need to use Siren shenanigans against those teams actually detrimental if you stun that jackal for example

[wanton island]

siren kills that team

[high stream]

That RH is 7 10 10 .. the rest is uninvested

[keen vapor]

4/4/4 everyone

That's it, they don't need more

[normal shard]

how would you guys counter this?

[high stream]

But wont these cp padders in my roster still take me down? That one guy has 130K cp

[wanton island]

oh look. another noah 1 team...siren

[sour siren]

Generally, my left T1 in pic lost to right T1. But I’ll share more details tmr. Thanks!

[high stream]

I actually have the highest CP in my roster .. but my strongest team cant beat that 100K team for example, lol.

[normal shard]

siren can stun noah?

[keen vapor]

Trina can have maxed skill 2 but.... That's if you have Scarlet on the team, and would want Trina to burst, not Noah

But I actually like more Noah Biscuit setup in your current situation

[wanton island]

siren silences noah

she quietly dies

[normal shard]

hrmmm

[wanton island]

siren doesnt even need to be b1

[normal shard]

does it matter where i position siren?

[wanton island]

she can just cheerlead

[wanton island]

make her last if you want

she doesnt even need to burst

[keen vapor]

Get Tier 9 gears with manufacturer bonus (extra purple icon) and overload them with a Custom Module (a rock you get from Special intervention/Anomaly)

[high stream]

You think this can beat that guy?

That's the only person I cant take down right now

So I'm always either #1 or #2 .. depending on how well he does.

We both kinda competing for #1 all the time.

[wanton island]

nah. indom> noah

[keen vapor]

you need 89k CP first

[high stream]

Lol. What's the explanation for that

[normal shard]

lol, well i did indeed silended noah, i still died though

[wanton island]

just telling you how siren works. i didnt see your team

[normal shard]

this is what i used

i couldn't use t.Helm and some other units since its for another team

[wanton island]

swap jackal with siren?

[normal shard]

tthey bursted pretty fast though or i could br imagining things

oh did i take xtra damage becasue jackal was on my team?

[wanton island]

also pick trina or blanc... dont use both

[keen vapor]

Ok, checked the speed calc

Keep Trina on the team and swap Centi for Siren
Don't change positions

[tropic summit]

scarlet 10/4/10, SR5, 4OL
trina 4/7/7
not on deficit

[high stream]

Will do .. there is a calc? o.o

[keen vapor]

This is #pvp-arena 's secret weapon

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[high stream]

Oh my

How accurate is that?

[keen vapor]

very

[wanton island]

gold standard

short of bugged stuff

[coarse solstice]

You can even mock your teams against opponents for easy side by sides

[wanton island]

the man. the myth. the legend

lol

[dim sapphire]

vinos or that doro

[keen vapor]

Vinos

He's a genius

[dim sapphire]

i picked doro guy

still undecided

man i dont wanna lose my streak

[keen vapor]

He deserves to lose how dares him to not allow Eon to win championship

[swift mango]

Scar want at least 30 ammo

[keen vapor]

My Moran got more ammo

[dim sapphire]

okay but no what about no bias perspective lol

[valid fern]

Does she tho? 2RL scarlet only gets two stacks of attack buff. But I guess it wouldnt hurt if 30 ammo still iframes siren stun. Someone needs to test if this iframe trick is even consistent in the first place

[swift mango]

2rl burst 3 at 37 ammo.

[valid fern]

Maybe 2RL. What about 1.9RL tho

[lone sequoia]

just get more atk and kill siren

[placid bloom]

it's not iframe

Siren just straight up cannot stun if she shoots at cover

so you can safely dodge with 0 ammo OL Scarlet

[crystal flicker]

What if she stun the cover

[oak gale]

fellas whats the rating for new mihara , because i got like a bready and 2 ixias and 2 noahs so far 💀
is she valid in pvp? is she valid in bossing?

[crystal flicker]

Whos ixia

[oak gale]

exia*

that lady whos holding the gameboy

[crystal flicker]

Lower dmg than Rapipi B3 for bossing with core

[grand plaza]

@shell hazel Same fight for you?

[crystal flicker]

She's ok for PvP, but you need survive comp

[oak gale]

so i assume she isnt worth in pvp if you have already established teams or?

[crystal flicker]

Basically let her die first, and you only need to somehow survive everything

[crystal flicker]

#pvp-arena message
Better watch this

[oak gale]

well im damned

[grand plaza]

Does Cindy burst first or Noah burst first?

[crystal flicker]

Half Cindy dmg got absorbed by Noah

Bottom lose if Cindy hit RH

if she dont, bottom win

[grand plaza]

Hmm top cindy pretty invested as well, 160k while RH is 120k for example

I will go with bot in the end but looks like a rng game

[crystal flicker]

How can you be so sure about P4 tho

It's AoE vs Stall

[shell hazel]

top has no noah, my cindy comp wiped the floor with theirs on team 3

it does depend if cindy nukes get through on 3RL vs 2RL ofc

[crystal flicker]

Nero might get 100% dmg reduction, does ScarBS also countered by this?

I mean that's equal to 0 dmg lol

[grand plaza]

I believe 2 buffed SBS would beat their stall, plus they can counter helm burst as well

But fair, now I checked and bot is pretty invested. More than top, but SBS is the most invested among them with a fair amount of diff

[crystal flicker]

Yeah I don't think that Moran Nero is invested

[grand plaza]

Probably

[shell hazel]

wonder if I'd have beaten bottom one, I think maybe not again, prob won 3/4 and lost the others 😛

bottom is a whale of sorts I think

looks like they had lots of cores on everyone

[grand plaza]

Yeah, your match was no brainer but now its 3RL instead 🤷‍♂️

[crystal flicker]

77.29% dmg red on Nero, with Def boost and Heal form Rapu and HelmT, she wont die easily

[grand plaza]

But there is also Blanc

[shell hazel]

I've set mihara def for fun, see if anyone bites (rookie)

I tried it out earlier and it worked fine, but I ran into cindy and then it didn't 😄

[grand plaza]

Why it should work? Honestly I have 0 idea about her kit

[crystal flicker]

That's 3RL ish, natural lose to 2RL Nuke lol

[shell hazel]

nah cindy just avoided damage and nailed mihara in return basically

decoy maybe, or poor luck on mihara dot apply

[dim sapphire]

help with this prediction?

one more damn win for the frame

[crystal flicker]

That's kinda hard

[shell hazel]

wanna say R L R ? ?

4 is two very similar stall comps

5 is SG on def but left side has biscuit so they'll just be hitting an immune centi for a bit

can rosanna remove biscuit immunity?

[crystal flicker]

Never saw that

Assume left is attacking

[shell hazel]

I'd say fair to assume that

[crystal flicker]

What about P1

SG might strong enough to kill Anis via spread

Mess with burst gen

If it's Scarlet Jackal, it'd be easy win

[shell hazel]

first SG shot hits p5 I think, could indeed kill anis quite fast

though if she gets a couple of shots off might still be OK, be an interesting one to see how the matches go 🙂

[crystal flicker]

You don't watch my video yes?

#pvp-arena message

That's invested HelmT, though she's not a defender

[shell hazel]

oof lol

[grand plaza]

I never saw Cindy melted that quick

[shell hazel]

yeah you do pretty much have to consider that a SG team can kill your P5, and to have backup options that work

[crystal flicker]

In defense, almost all SG bullet goes to P5 lol

And since they're spread, they also killing decoy

[shell hazel]

I wanted Drake ready for next CA but I doubt it now that I look at her bond level, it's like 10 and the event doesn't give bond tickets

I think the CA after this will be only a little improved on what I fielded this time around

[crystal flicker]

How even you're out of tickets

[shell hazel]

spent em

siren, mihara, and I just use them as I get some as well mostly

[vapid barn]

I will win

[vapid lake]

[keen vapor]

I support you

[vapid barn]

I fully expected Eon to win tbh

I would’ve 100% lost to Eon

[vapid lake]

i know you're reading this, keep attacking me, let's see who has more gems to spend

LMAO

i can gem all day

[keen vapor]

YEAH THE RESULTS ARE WRONG
WE GOT ROBBED

[dim sapphire]

chill guys i need my frame

[keen vapor]

This me today I'm failing attacks

[dim sapphire]

thats me , freak you

[vapid lake]

are you tho

[dim sapphire]

really 50/50 between you and the doro guy

[vapid lake]

im pretty sure i know who this guy is here

[dim sapphire]

can see 3 wins 2 lose

your scarlet will get rekt

2rl kill ur 3rl indom wont be enough to take out everyone there

[vapid lake]

rosy was right i'm getting addicted to pressing the log and seeing people failing on attack

[vapid barn]

My prediction is

1- I lose, sg will mow my team down before burst
2- 3RL Cindy, I should out-speed and wipe
3- I win, I’ve tested against 2RL comps already
4- my stuff is more invested, I should win this
5- Rosanna will kill Emilia and RH (?)

I could be wrong of course and lose. PvP shenanigans made Eon lose when he shouldn’t have

[vapid lake]

[dim sapphire]

whats ur rosa att%

[vapid barn]

39%

[dim sapphire]

u should win t5

then

[vapid lake]

keep attacking me instead of the #3 who has trash teams and is easy pickings, i'll bleed u of ur gems

[keen vapor]

I'm actually counting on Scarlet counterattack to save you there

[vapid barn]

[dim sapphire]

t4 i dont know really

[vapid barn]

Look at Moran and Nero power. They are not invested at all

[dim sapphire]

can probably stall it out until another burst

[vapid barn]

Quiry too

[raven plover]

c5 liter 93k :dorowutdahel:

[dim sapphire]

cinderella left 2 rl actually

[vapid lake]

anyone know when is the next reshuffle date

nvm

it closer than i thought

[dire root]

Oh cool I could fight them with a 18% defict advantage.

I think it needs to be much higher though

Need another SR 15 for more combat power

[raven plover]

no more CA for me

[heady peak]

Okay... how is this looking? For what I have these are probably my better units. I also have a pretty good repunzel normal

Team 4 is sad..ik

But my emelia is kinda shit anyways

Needa better lines

[shell hazel]

isn't scarlet p1 better?

[vapid lake]

same and honestly i dun really care

[shell hazel]

so she counter-attacks, unless you're worried she dies

[vapid lake]

i just want to cheer

[dire root]

Don't you risk Siren stun?

it's only a 3RL team

[shell hazel]

I mean every team is at risk of siren stun tbh

[dire root]

Only the slow ones are

[shell hazel]

tia should taunt maybe? if you chuck her at p5

though she won't burst

but her bursting will slow you down anyway

[heady peak]

Oooh..

So remove tia in p1 and go p5. Stick scarlet in p1. I mean the team is super fast...

So i shouldnt have to worry about her dying

[shell hazel]

tia won't burst though, or do her re-enter b1 anyway

[dire root]

Tia slows you down a bit so that sucks

[heady peak]

True... and i have tree... so she doesnt need the extra buff from tia bursting

[shell hazel]

don't put cindy p1 per first team either

cindy p1 or p2 can speed up your opponent burst gen

due to decoy

[heady peak]

Oooh.. that is interesting. Didn't know that counts

So it acts like cover?

For burst generation

[dire root]

Even with jackal Cindy won't wipe fast enough before SBS gets indom, you think SBS dies before burst she has no health buffers.

[shell hazel]

#pvp-arena message

[heady peak]

i looked over it... but idr reading cindy clones doing that.

[shell hazel]

it's something like 1.75x burst gen at p1 for your opponent

and p2 1.25x

ideally cindy p3 or p4

[heady peak]

So that would be a better set up? Cindy needs to be p3 cause her clones.. or p4 if my p5 isn't s taunter

[shell hazel]

I mean p1 is like the worst place she can be

[dire root]

I think putting Noah on a Cindy team is kind of strange.

Like if Cindy burst fails isn't the round over anyways? What does Noah immunity help with?

[shell hazel]

anti-cindy / scarlet

[heady peak]

Okay.