pvp-arena

[shell hazel]

I'll look at improving Rosanna for next CA

also want to improve my team 2 some more, or at least get Anis / Pepper a bit tankier

SBS on 3RL is a bit slow but I lack ya girl Rumani to speed it up much

I can actually break into Kraken S6 now not all the time but should only get easier, means I can delay investing Asuka W some

[grand plaza]

I think instead of buffing those 2, it would be better idea to leave them as it is and buff Biscuit s2 instead and give her healing cube

I think this way it would be most likely for SBS to take indom and pretty much win the game after that

[shell hazel]

I can potentially throw some skill books at biscuit, going to see how mihara stuff looks, I got siren to 10/10/7 now

[grand plaza]

Yeah better idea imo, its not like CA gives huge rewards or anything 🤷‍♂️

[limpid nebula]

Is Rosanna good for SPA? Need to wishlist her?

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

anything which is in my SPA + CA is a combined win

[low totem]

Is there an updated list of meta pvp teams, see the prydwen one but unclear when it was last updated?

[grand plaza]

Fair. I personally took my 5th place thanks to Rumani drop few days ago and better team making, and have no hope going higher than that. So I just focus on pve instead.

[keen vapor]

@quick lake I'm 421 now give him your list

[grand plaza]

She is a good pvp unit yeah, but not without investment

[quick lake]

#pvp-arena message

[quick lake]

yay! cp boost

[quick lake]

need alot of investment. not for the faint of heart

[limpid nebula]

her dispel buff works on who tho?

[keen vapor]

A jackal linked unit on P1
Commonly Scarlet

[quick lake]

Mostly used to dispel Jackal link, ie less jackal feed

[limpid nebula]

so she is only best for scarlet jackal counter?

for a lower burst gen and niche usage, she prob on the lower prior then..

[placid bloom]

counters Trina, counters Jackal, counters Mana

[keen vapor]

Or to Snipe Emilias

[quick lake]

Her burst can OHKO non-invested non-SR15 units

[shell hazel]

plus she is just generally pretty cool 😄

[limpid nebula]

no wonder need to invest rather high on her

[low totem]

Are these ordered from best to worst or matchup dependent?

[quick lake]

Generally optimal on top, less optimal below

But defence is always crackable

[low totem]

Kk thanks

[limpid nebula]

what about her? a semi taunt-tankish? and burst gen?

[grand plaza]

Mainly there for burst gen

[low totem]

What is clip RL and SG by the way?

[grand plaza]

When you reload it doesn't reload everything at once, reloads smaller for several times

[limpid nebula]

got it

[quick lake]

fantastic battery

[placid bloom]

some weapons reload all their ammo at once, some reload in clips. Clips have higher burst generation. Except for a few like Guilty and Isabel that have clip reload speed but not clip burst gen for some reason

[quick lake]

ClipRL = Rumani Centi Trina Anis Noah
ClipSG= Drake, pepper Noir Viper BSoda

[grand plaza]

Much less investment depended than Rosanna tho, so might be a better pick for wishlist

[low totem]

Gotcha thanks all

[cursive pike]

anyone worked out this one yet?

[grand plaza]

Not everyone seeing the same matches

[swift mango]

I got Soda stun my Bay yesterday and I lost.

It's stun meta in CA

But I probably lose the next one anyway even if I won because I forgot to tune my Biscuit team to anti SBS.

[lunar pawn]

pvp started with privaty aoe stun meta

it's only fair pvp goes back to its stun roots

[barren elk]

seems left won

[keen vapor]

Huh? He looks like could have lose

Who won the Noah team

[lunar pawn]

what lines do I want on moran's OL?

def I guess? then whatever boosts her cp

[barren elk]

https://youtu.be/CSuM0ptJIjE fights

[raven plover]

atk ele def

[barren elk]

was a good meme play by our guild

[keen vapor]

If you want to cope on def then get her skill 1 to level 10, not overloads

Avoid max ammo if you're on the mood, but it's nothing to lose sleep about

[lunar pawn]

I see

[barren elk]

left

[keen vapor]

Huh, enemy Noah didn't got a second proc

[spiral onyx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w8v0_h0EL0

[pale knoll]

@tropic summit I'm resetting scarlet

[leaden canyon]

I'm top, defending.

[lunar pawn]

anyone reviewed this yet?

[unique mountain]

@raven plover is pulse still in

[tropic summit]

eh for who though?

[shell hazel]

other scarlet 😄

[worthy sorrel]

my rosa still needs a lot of work, but because of the timing for this champ arena, I actually 7/4/10'd her, slotted her in to snapshot for arena then reset her lol

have a lot to build still for upcoming solo raid, but will try to build rosa for real in time for next tournament

[keen vapor]

[pale knoll]

Wdym for who

[shell hazel]

oh man that is cheeky 😄

[keen vapor]

What are you going to use those mats from Scar

[pale knoll]

Re allocate them

101010 scar to 747

[shell hazel]

my scar is 10/7/10. actually both are

[shell hazel]

next CA seems to start really soon after previous one ends, matter of days. I got to at least give Mihara a basic level of build for upcoming solo raid but I don't think I can go all in on her yet

likely some of my other stuff will come off on the CA following the 3rd one

[worthy sorrel]

no ol hurts her but she doin what she need to do lol

[shell hazel]

I've been saving up gear for OL since siren landed, hopefully enough fodder to OL all 4 mihara pieces

my main campaign team needs more work on OL levels as well still tbh, getting to +5 is the end-game and most are on like 1-3 😛

[daring gust]

Vote who win pls

[upper zephyr]

can someone build me 3 SP arena teams as the defence is finally breaking, current lineups are:

team 1 (highest CP team) : liter naga ein alice rapipi
team 2 : noah centi cindy Thelm noise
team 3: blanc sbs biscuit emilia jackal

[pale knoll]

[rotund swan]

@swift mango @tropic summit yours opinions?

[shell hazel]

ah damn shame 😦

we had a good run 🙂

[swift mango]

L
R
L
R
R
I guess

[daring gust]

Can bay prevent emilia nuke in team 3?

[shell hazel]

see if @tropic summit doesn't mind cooking you up something when he's free, our teams did well for now, you still lacking some core units I think

[oblique ridge]

[upper zephyr]

i did almost go an entire month without losing it, so it was fairly impressive run

[shell hazel]

damn that is pretty good 😄

[rotund swan]

1 = I agree
2 = ok, I also think cindy burst will be countered
3 = I don’t know well, maybe
4 = dunno which one will burst
5 = I agree

[shell hazel]

changing up def some is a good idea

[swift mango]

You are more likely to win I guess. It's all close match.

[shell hazel]

bear in mind any def can be broken, so best you can do is to confuse people and win that way 😛

[swift mango]

No

[oblique ridge]

So I take it team B Soda lost

[lunar pawn]

fights went exactly as I predicted originally

[forest solstice]

that number’s about to be a lot higher
can unadd me if you want

[oblique ridge]

To be fair I did mention how I thought it’d be flippable Which one betrayed my predictions? I see yours a couple posts above mine, was Dice, Bot, Bot, Top, Top (or Dice, L/W, L/W, W/L, W/L)

[vapid hemlock]

@swift mango looks like we both dont get to see each other again hahaha

[lunar pawn]

then after confirming siren would land the stun, said daisuki would win that fight

[oblique ridge]

Oh, it turned out to be
W/L
L/W
L/W
W/L
W/L

[lunar pawn]

yea

[swift mango]

I'm more disappointed about my Emi didn't get a decent match up but yeah, rebuild your team for next season then.

[vapid hemlock]

oooohhh we'll hopfeully rng is good to you next time, ill prolly stop joining already

[coarse lake]

are there any prev champs still in the running

[lunar pawn]

hard to say in NA, haven't seen zeus who won our bracket last time

[coarse lake]

zeus is already gone, didn't see it in keripo bracket

[simple flower]

Whom u cheering

[glacial lion]

it already show in that pic...

you didnt notice? i thought you bait me type his name

[simple flower]

I dont frequent here
i dont get the banned words

time to report name

[torn cove]

I know for single arena you just go omega big but for teams arena how do you guys go about it a full balance 3 teams or just 2 teams as big as you can?

[pale knoll]

What happened?

[forest solstice]

lost interest in the game
I may come back if there’s something that really grabs my attention though

[pale knoll]

Just like that? Bipolar? 👀

[lean sphinx]

For whoever’s interest in here, this is slightly wracking my brain. But I assume that the top row wins.

[placid bloom]

Noah stunned so yeah everyone wipes to Scarlet except her

[potent pivot]

Hi guys. plz help me cook up a team for SP arena

[keen vapor]

Eon you'll be facing Vinos for the championship

[keen vapor]

Yeah, likely

[keen vapor]

Forgot to ping

[keen vapor]

Press auto for third team

Use Liter instead of Siren if your Scarlet isn't doing enough damage (but that means you should invest more on Scarlet)
And put quantum cube on Trina and Anis first, if you level it up enough, then Drake

And yes, Neon was totally needed

[coarse lake]

idk, not confident I can make it there

[keen vapor]

You'll be you will become champion you heard me?!

I still have to be able to bet for you

[potent pivot]

Are there any adjusment needed if I have not unlocked Quantum cube yet?

[keen vapor]

Not really just try to keep doing campaign and the lost sectors to unlock it

[dire root]

Guess Noah didn't get double immunity lol

[placid bloom]

she did

I just wiped them in 1 sec after it wore off

[dire root]

DAMNMNNN SBS OP

[placid bloom]

my team 5 performed even worse than I expected, forgot my Helm would get taunted by Noise because p2

so her burst killed a basically already dead char

[dire root]

Urawaht thought you would lose 4/5 so he was wrong.

[placid bloom]

well I thought team 2 would lose too

SBS overperformed there

[tropic summit]

you just resetting her and that's it? figured you needed the books for someone else

[pale knoll]

I have like 6k

[dire root]

I won this cheer but this round lost? WHAT Scarlet was 2 RL and also had jackal.

Holy shit they tanked a RH Trina Scarlet nuke.

it only killed 2 of their nikkes

[lone sequoia]

looks like SU lowered the rates again

[dire root]

What rates?

[rotund swan]

thanks, I had doubts on fight 4 because I thought blade team can burst first

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind emilia liter
scarlet helmt blanc little mermaid jackal
noah biscuit sbs dkw drake

cubes

quantum on jackal, centi
vigor on blanc, biscuit
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

raise CP on nikke attached in SS, can aim for 2RL cindy once rumani is ready, can also use RH in either team 1 or team 2

[tropic summit]

team 4 is gonna see you losing noise and helmt to rosanna, but enough to burst with rumani centi and cindy.

in theory, you've a few seconds of cindy surviving post nuke, you gonna hope that's enough to wrap it up there

keep in mind bad s2 RNG will see cindy dying anyway

[upper zephyr]

[tropic summit]

believe in your cindy invest

[keen vapor]

@long latch @dense linden are either of you on my PVP bracket?

I want to negotiate

[lone sequoia]

gacha rates

[dire root]

[lone sequoia]

i got 2 elegg in 104 pulls and only 2 SR

multiple multi full R

[dire root]

Do nothing
Take 1st place

[keen vapor]

Friendship banner

[dire root]

I was in like 3rd when the seasson ended

[keen vapor]

That always happens, is normal

[dire root]

Wdym, wouldn't 1st place still be in first?

I'm confused why I even have points, don't the points reset each season?

[dense linden]

nah man, that’s not me, i wish tho lmaoo

[keen vapor]

Sadge

[strange quail]

you guys think these two will win ?

[tropic summit]

don't mirror scarlet, also siren can die to s2 counters within 2RL

show the other enemy team

[lone sequoia]

180- 2 elegg and 7SR

[strange quail]

hmm, then I can use blanc vs team 1 or team 3, then Siren to go vs team 2

because I dont have Noah

[tropic summit]

do you've bay?

[strange quail]

Yes I do but not built

Does she require any specific investment ? Or just highest CP possible

[warm monolith]

What team i could use against noise/rumani/centi/cindy/thelm without noah?@tropic summit

[strange quail]

Also do Bay require strict timing depend on team or I can just slide her in ? I have seen many recommend Bay vs Scarlet but I kinda don't know how to use her

[quick lake]

Bay is just burdget Noah

Blocks Scar nuke

But dies to cindy

[strange quail]

So I can just slide her in any 2RL and vs 2RL scar she win win right ?

[tropic summit]

honestly, non invested bay is still sort of a gamble

[quick lake]

She wins against 2RL scar yes

[tropic summit]

give it a shot and record it

your teams are on the left

doublecheck CP in case

[strange quail]

okay

[tropic summit]

any 2RL indom (indom SBS, indom s.anis, indom emilia)
any 2RL post nuke DPS (SBS, RH, s.anis), requires noah

[warm monolith]

As long as im not on deficit this should work right? Also how did you managed to get exact enemy team

[tropic summit]

always avoid deficit if possible, it just adds more variables

it's a common team, you can run in that often enough

requirements:

-SBS has lower hp than jackal and helmt (enforce it with vigor if needed)
-must be 2RL (clip RL as video above)

[worthy knoll]

Can't he just swap T1 and T2 but just arrange the Emi team to be 2 RL with a Jackal Blanc Emi GenNonSG GenNonSG?

[warm monolith]

Enemy has scar/blanc/rosanna/trina/jackal and
Noise/rumani/centi/cindy/thelm teams that ill fight against,good thing is im not on deficit anymore but i was thinking of using bay against scar swipe but idk the interaction between bay and rosanna nuke on the first team.
I made a team with bay/centi/sbs/thelm/rumani against first team with 2RL and enemy is 3RL would that help and even if what should i do for the other team?

[warm monolith]

My sbs has lower hp but does it depend on max hp or current hp in the battle?

[worthy knoll]

Or like Jackal B1GenNonSG Blanc Emilia GenNoSG if you want to ensure only Scar S2 is hitting Blanc

[tropic summit]

@strange quail you can also do as merry suggested

[strange quail]

ah yeah, my un-invested Bay has some deficit so I will go with that

[tropic summit]

mhm, will then re-use what you have atm

although if you're planning to stay for a long while without noah, bay could be useful

[strange quail]

Yeah I will consider, I am running out of fodder gear atm, maybe later

[wanton island]

finally. the hustler skin released

lol

[strange quail]

wow, work like a charm, you are the best

Thank you Railtracer and Merry, much love

let me know if you guys want to watch record

[tropic summit]

it's fine i did nothing

good job

[brave canyon]

let's GOOOO free summon

PVP stonks going up

[dire root]

Is Siren stun about to ruin their day?

Also man their team must be poorly invested I'm beating them in combat power and they have the 220 power spike

Oh it's the SR dolls

that is letting me beat them in combat power

[spiral onyx]

Yes. But also you are both running super slow teams, throw in SR Anis or something in there lol

[dire root]

Yeah sadly I don't have the combat power to 15% defict them. So a burst unit would be better.

[sour siren]

Any suggestions? Thanks!!!@tropic summit

[dire root]

lol Scarlet is going to tank Scarlet nuke using blanc and then Scarlet is going to nuke Scarlet. Unless Jackal takes the Blanc indom.

At least I think Blanc should go off before the bottom Scarlet does.

[tropic summit]

scarlet team against T1 is interchangable with T2, same logic, pick whoever is lower in CP

T3 is your usual 2RL noah

[dire root]

[crystal flicker]

SPA Siren stun 2RL P1 B2

[unique wagon]

Does Mihara chain hit enemy Rosanna concealed

[warm monolith]

So what should i do @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

post the enemy 3 teams and your box

makes it easier

[crystal flicker]

Is this gonna work?

[warm monolith]

Here @tropic summit

[crystal flicker]

I know HelmT is preffered, but I need her to get 2RL Cindy

[tropic summit]

what are you trying to do there

[crystal flicker]

Stall comp

[upper grove]

any mihara sacc tests yet?

[warm monolith]

I spent 70 pulls on her and no luck,i have 370 mileage and absolutely no gem,will i be able to get more gems in the continueing update or not

[keen vapor]

Merry makes it work

[unique wagon]

MIHARA + BLANC + MANA/RAPU IS TOXIC IN PVP

Maybe?

[tropic summit]

record it to see how your SBS does

[warm monolith]

Im in deficit on first team though

[tropic summit]

invest in noah centi biscuit as those will be core units

enemy is running 3 utilities aswell

[vapid lake]

any1 test pvp mihararararararara yet

[tropic summit]

ara ara intensifies

[warm monolith]

I dont have any left over rocks

Nvm i did it thank you for the teams

[tropic summit]

you won against scarlet on deficit?

[crystal flicker]

I'm not sure you can sacc MBC on time

[warm monolith]

Nah i lost though i go against a different opp and won

[crystal flicker]

Is it OK if I use RH instead

[tropic summit]

oh ok because that would've been surprising 🤔

either way boost your utilities, you're only 10ish lvls behind so u can catch up

[warm monolith]

Though i won against w sbs team

[keen vapor]

That'll make easier to mess up burst rotation

[crystal flicker]

That's true

[warm monolith]

I dont have gems only 370 mileage,should i go for mihara?

[crystal flicker]

If I directly copy that, I need to move ScarBS from 2.5RL and replace her there with either RH or SAnis

I bench RH with this comp lol

[lone sequoia]

her DoT is weak, if you get the burst gen to 3RL and get only 1 proc should be fine, probably a feed for rosanna or use with drake, if her DoT have time maybe a main DPS in stall (?) maybe with makima will be the safest choice at the moment

so, yeah if you want dmg blanc team will be interesting if you burst in time

[crystal flicker]

You want Miboo to die for instant 20 DoT stack, you wont die in time with invested Miboo

[lone sequoia]

MG p1, for CA just another unit in the SG team

[unique wagon]

1 proc?

[lone sequoia]

rosanna S2

[dire root]

How much time does Siren need to stun lol

[lone sequoia]

from 3RL to 2RL, 2 for 2RL from 4

[unique wagon]

Yeah if she dies its instant 20 stafks no

[lone sequoia]

to the ones who get the initial mark

[crystal flicker]

That doesnt matter

[unique wagon]

RH will burst anyways and might kill ur Scar.

[crystal flicker]

DoT takes time, the best place is stall comp

[dire root]

Not my team I'm deciding who to cheer for

[unique wagon]

Oh not my problem then

[crystal flicker]

against 2RL or 3RL Nuke, she wont do much dmg

[unique wagon]

[lone sequoia]

same problem, her DoT is weak

[unique wagon]

Its 10 random no order?

[shell hazel]

my pull luck has been awful (220 pulls no mihara) but damn this centi initial OL is legit

[unique wagon]

Does taunter affect that?

[lone sequoia]

should be random(? i will continue my test

but in proper team building is hard to use her in sp, just a gimmick for CA at the moment...

[unique wagon]

She is just Rosanna tier niche lol

[lone sequoia]

if i think in synergies

[unique wagon]

And that is kinda obvious already

[crystal flicker]

Rosa better tho

[unique wagon]

She needs to die and thats not something u can constantly do on defense when enemy can cheese

Might be usable in CA tho

[lone sequoia]

i will need 2 more atk lines but i don't want to spend rocks

mihara/drake/SG/rosanna/makima

[unique wagon]

Revive Mihara seems to be most legit

[lone sequoia]

yeah, but both teams will have problems against rosanna

[crystal flicker]

This my Rosa, sometimes she 1 tap and sometimes she doesnt

[unique wagon]

As if ure gonna get matched against Rosa all the time. Just bring ur own Rosanna.

Also does she remove Rosannas concealment though

[lone sequoia]

you need 2 ele at least

[crystal flicker]

Considering Jackal link dmg wont, it's shouldnt be

[unique wagon]

That has no effect

[lone sequoia]

then you go for crit rate or stop

[unique wagon]

Mihara chain also deals on impact damagee

[crystal flicker]

More rocc

[lone sequoia]

if people don't have a strong emi, sbs or laplace they can go with blanc/rosanna and keep their other 3~4strong teams

or just fill with SG

[unique wagon]

Rosanna MiharaBC Makima ftw

[plucky charm]

does a 2rl scar-jack beat this?

[lone sequoia]

rookie or sp?

[plucky charm]

sp

[lone sequoia]

maybe

[plucky charm]

i dont see siren on nikke deck yet to plug her in

[lone sequoia]

2RL should hit before that team start the burst chain

who is your b1?

if you only use jackal/trina try to use jackal in p1(?

[plucky charm]

im using this

[lone sequoia]

you can try, i'm not sure if siren stun fast enough in sp

in other modes is around b2 2RL

[plucky charm]

yea idk if scarlet would get stunned
if she does then it loses i think b/c bisc-noah

[lone sequoia]

atk lines?

+3= a dead siren(?)

[unique wagon]

Not if Rapu stays alive

And likely your B2/B3 will be stunned

[lone sequoia]

rh/trina, rapu can't tank that, only in DR team and a crit is wipe

[unique wagon]

Well yeah Scar would get stunned and RH would burst

[keen vapor]

In normal circumstances, Rapu shouldn't stay alive against a scar nuke buffed by Trina RH

She doesn't even has SR doll

[plucky charm]

what about this
2rl noah stunned bu still fast enough to 2rl before their noah invuln

[unique wagon]

And Noah will soak RH

[visual sequoia]

Hello everyone looking to update my pvp teams any advice would be helpful, willing to start from scratch and build some new teams i have some mats farmed up

[unique wagon]

So no u will not win

With confidence

If u have Liter and its 2 RL as well

You can place Liter in P1 instead

So she B1 and takes the stun

[plucky charm]

like this?

rumani can still burst in case she gets stunned before bursting

[unique wagon]

Well u alr have feed so I dont think u need to go that far

Jackal better

[plucky charm]

maybe this?
i need to move thelm to another team to cp pad

[dim sapphire]

WH underdog will win in my opinion. Whats yours?

[unique wagon]

Left
Hard to say
Is that 2 RL Scarlet versus 3 RL Cindy? If yes, left.
Hard to say, likely right.
If left is attacking, then maybe left, but if defending, right. Hard to say. Its down to whether Ein/RH survives.

[raven plover]

sry unc I already mimir when you pinged. he didnt make it

[unique wagon]

Yes

[plucky charm]

cool beans thank you
i saw siren is named little mermaid in nikkedeck and they end up being 4rl so there should be a good amount of time to burst

[crystal flicker]

Left
Depend IF Rosa can actually 1 shot ReiT and Emi
It's 2RL vs 3RL, but Biscuit will likely gave Noah and Rumani Indom, so if Scarlet fail to 1 shot Cindy they're gone
Right
Right (stacked Rosa)

[unique wagon]

So did u win

[plucky charm]

yes
only noah survived scar burst but thats b/c of biscuits skill

[unique wagon]

Gud

[dim sapphire]

Is there any videos moran+biscuit sanis, two burst fill vs nero,moran,helm,rapunzel,laplace

im unsure about this battle

[unique wagon]

I need MIHARA REVIVE VID

[loud sonnet]

Cant test no mana

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/if-i-had-one-angry-yelling-fairly-odd-parents-mr-turner-gif-16322274

[loud sonnet]

70 pulls

Already used all doll mats to SR15 siren

[wicked burrow]

I got treasure drake, should I put her anywhere? @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

if CP is better instead of noir
if CP is better and she has less atk% than scarlet (OL included) instead of bsoda

[wicked burrow]

4k more cp than noir
the same cp as soda, she has more atk % than scarlet and even has 13k more atk flat

but soda has more atk than scarlet as well, although no atk % on gear

guess I'll use her instead of noir

[tropic summit]

remember that for scarlet to remain linked she needs to be 2nd or 1st highest atk% in that team... ensure her link isn't stolen

[wicked burrow]

Hmmm, I'm pretty sure it is stolen

[tropic summit]

change bsoda with noir if noir has less atk% than scarlet

[wicked burrow]

Soda and Rh are probably two highest

Pretty much sure she also has more...

[tropic summit]

safe to say your problem lies with your scarlet investiment

[wicked burrow]

Indeed

She has 77k atk while soda 89 and drake 90 for instance

Rh iirc around 83-85(?)

Closed the game so can't check rn

But dupes give a lot to them

While scarlet is lb0

[dire root]

Thoughts?
W/L
L/W
L/W
W/L If Siren stuns scarket redhood bursts and wins anyways I think

Don't know which way round 5 goes

[clear folio]

thats me on top lol, my T4 is 2RL lvl 7 quantums, hopefully wins lol. my T5 hears hoping rumani gets stunned and he cant burst xD

[high stream]

@tropic summit Hey there buddy .. it's only been like 2 weeks, but this anniversary was monumental for me. You've been so helpful in the past with my PvP teams .. would u mind taking another look? I'm not kidding .. I got like 10 Pilgrims this Anniversary .. including RRH, RH, Crown, Modernia etc. .. I also broke 160 wall. I have MLB Siren, Alice, Mihara, Maxwell and Drake .. I'm also working on HelmT right now .. I just need more maintenance mats to get Helm collection item to 15

[dire root]

Oh yeah rumani should get stunned and delay their burst. Biscuit is the problem, she will likely keep rumani alive long enough for them to burst then it's over.

[umbral belfry]

Lap+ Time

[umbral crown]

@keen vapor how does it feel 421

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

It feels like C1 is in range

[umbral crown]

now you 2m and in range to beat him

[keen vapor]

I think I won't build Mihara doll, so was thinking either Laplace or Siren

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

Yes, his teams suck

[dire root]

How does round 2 play out? SBS gets stalled on Moran because of biscuit then Moran gets Blanc indom them bottom gets wiped?

[umbral crown]

show me then

[dire root]

Biscuit indom and Blanc indom wins top round 2 right?

[umbral belfry]

aces t5 should win btw. rumani gets stunned, ace's rrh is invested, ele adv vs ein.

[keen vapor]

Sorry, C3 guy defeated me, so I'm back at C6

I'm testing if Abathur tests my defense and breaks it for now

ASDF couldn't

[dire root]

Wait who wins T5? I thought biscuit would stall top until Ein bursted and wiped everyone. Even if Rumani got stunned it wouldn't stop the burst once the stun wore off rumani would still be kept alive long enough by biscuit.

[keen vapor]

Biscuit gives no Indom ☝️

[dire root]

Her defender immunity at 50% ins't indom?

[keen vapor]

No, it's immunity
Receives no damage

[umbral belfry]

Ace's t5 should win. Bisc will help (stunned) rumani, yes. but rrh is aoe, not to mention ace's is invested (170k) vs their ein (110k) w/ ele adv

[keen vapor]

Indomitability is an "unkillable" status

It does receives DMG

[dire root]

What's the difference between indom and the immunity biscuit gives to defenders?

[keen vapor]

I just told

[dire root]

If they can't take damage how can they die?

[keen vapor]

[dire root]

You need to take damage in order to die

[umbral crown]

defeat him back

[keen vapor]

And Indom unit takes DMG

It doesn't dies still

[umbral crown]

[dire root]

Oh, ah now I get it.

[umbral crown]

your gems are not for luxury

[dire root]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodcartier-gif-25860033

[keen vapor]

No
Gems are for collabs I like/Chimu

[umbral crown]

but you do not have Siren and mihara

[dire root]

I don't think I have seen Rapi's B3 used in PvP very often.

[keen vapor]

I have 1 :pepeh: Today pulls failed

[umbral crown]

you gonna mlb stellar bread?

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

same, i got siren from free pulls

mihara waiting list

[keen vapor]

I'll consider it

[umbral crown]

will you?

[keen vapor]

I'll consider!

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

There's not many Bay teams

[umbral crown]

got mihara with first 10

[keen vapor]

I didn't....

[umbral crown]

i was about to do 20 for the kits

well, it is what it is

now kits gotten and no need to worry about her

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-punch-ground-punching-ground-it-shouldve-been-me-it-shouldve-been-me-not-him-gif-18069003738146878767

[umbral crown]

i wanted RH instead of her but

it is what it is

[dire root]

I got Mihara in 1 pull

I bought her with millage

[clear folio]

T3 & 5 are my meme teams lmao, but they won i think bout 2-3 bouts each. Luck! xD i shud be more prepared nxt season

[dire root]

T5 is about to win a 4th

[clear folio]

you nvr know! haha

[crystal flicker]

Stall vs 2RL (Fed)
I don't think stall can stand RH + Blanc buffed Scarlet though

But previous match they're survived from Moran Trina Ein

With Moran being stunned

[clear folio]

also i didnt know cp deficit didnt matter hence slapped rrh my strongest unit

[umbral belfry]

Thankfully you made a team that has a high cp-unit with a decent team

bc if it was 4 rl+ 😭

[clear folio]

oh ye was reading the guide. says 3RL or bust so at least made them have gen

wish i started sooner i missed S1! 😭

[umbral belfry]

You missed all the cp-padded teams (mine included)

[fiery parcel]

T1 and t3 should win?

[swift mango]

MLB her?

[crystal flicker]

T1 too slow

Unless you have 17% Noah and Trina

2x2RL will take care T1 and T3 tho

[swift mango]

Yesterday I good attacked by lower Peeps again, Siren gave them the courage and I had to adjusty teams.

Try to build his arena units or stop being annoying I say.

[fiery parcel]

So i just swap t2 and t1 and bump up more RLs?

[fiery parcel]

What is 17% noah trina?

[loud sonnet]

What does piercing cube do?

[wet crystal]

How's mihara? "Specific timing"? "Enemy neutralized"? I'm interested with her incapacitated effect tho

Should I try this deficit for a test or a higher one?

[crystal flicker]

17% CS on Noah and Trina

[fiery parcel]

Ah ok

[crystal flicker]

2RL Scarlet always lose to 2RL Cindy + Noah
3rd team just 3.5RL, send 2RL Scarlet will do

[swift mango]

If you want to sacc her, probably bricked yourself by equipping Purple doll.

[wet crystal]

What's sacc

[swift mango]

Sacrifice or let her being killed

[wet crystal]

Gave her the doll for the 5x5 mission challenge

[fiery parcel]

Ok. That's definitely not happening yet

[swift mango]

Btw anyone know if the 3 ticket a day is given out even if I had more than 3 ticket left over and not used?

[crystal flicker]

Should be? it's not like they're limit it anyway

[umbral crown]

stall not gonna survive

[wet crystal]

Doesn't say it gets wiped

[umbral crown]

they gonna be wiped

[umbral crown]

nope, 1 copy and im done

will save tix for x.maiden rerun or if i go crazy could make C5 helm

[swift mango]

I will trust you on this and check tomorrow

[crystal flicker]

Consider stall is 4RL isn't that make them normally a very bad comp?

[swift mango]

Nero+Moran+HelmT+Rapu+Mihara?

[crystal flicker]

3RL with HelmT, but you need to make Cindy down to 2,5RL

[wet crystal]

That was a loss, mihara got downed twice, I'd like a replay to see if the dot increased after the 2nd down

I don't read anything about ensnaring chain caps, infinite stacks? Nvm 20 stacks... so one down is enough

[umbral crown]

have not tested that but the standar nero moran helm rapu quiry

[wet crystal]

Did i just evolve from green status?

[umbral crown]

blanc with RH is what you need to wipe the team, adding scar jackal is to overkill

blanc cancel moran burst

[swift mango]

Could do a rookie without minimum bullet option to test if it's 3rl with the extra hit from mihara.

[umbral crown]

doubt

but against scar jack?

[dire root]

Rip and my campaign progress stops here it seems. I can probably mald it though, stink units are just horrible.

I just noticed that my Alice has a level 3 onslaught cube equiped

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-gif-27609644

[hushed kelp]

Lmao is mihara sacc a new pvp meta?

I hope not

[swift mango]

You only need siren to wipe Nero team tbh

Especially Moran p1

[keen vapor]

Chapter 27 at 160 wall

[keen vapor]

Same

[dire root]

Alice is MLB

So not techincally walled fully

[keen vapor]

ONLY ONE UNIT

[umbral crown]

not really, she stuns around b2 at 3 RL

[dire root]

I have almost full overloaded gear

on my team

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

She stun 3RL B1.

[raven plover]

she stuns b1 at 3 rl

[umbral crown]

in CA siren stunned my B2 when i bursted

[keen vapor]

B2 at 2 RL

[umbral crown]

or did i see wrong

[swift mango]

Without CS.

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Mihara stun P1.

[keen vapor]

Time to check if Abathur attacked me

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

mihara stuns as well?

[hushed kelp]

Nero sorta needs to be p1 for nero moran team to get DR buffs

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Siren I mean

[umbral crown]

ah, i wa slike: waos stun meta

[dire root]

Missing boots for Helm and Siren.

[keen vapor]

Not really

[swift mango]

I mean, I lost yesterday because Soda stun my Bay.

[keen vapor]

With Helm on the team, she can be anywhere

[umbral crown]

i have not added soda in my teams

[dire root]

Damn I have no water DPS for harvester.

[hushed kelp]

She ramps up faster with both rapu and helm healing her tho no?

Does she hit full stacks before burst at p2?

[keen vapor]

Well, yes.... But Rapunzel heals up to 3

[hushed kelp]

[swift mango]

Gonna add Soda to my team next CA.... I just wasted 10 rock for nothing today... Will save to roll ATK line for Soda. And stop using rock

[hushed kelp]

Nero p2 is ok then?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[hushed kelp]

Wow

[keen vapor]

But there's other reasons for her to be P1

[umbral crown]

kinda same but last 2 days spent like 20' and not good lines

[keen vapor]

Moran HP buffs don't get wasted before time

[swift mango]

CS only commonly appeared when I roll on SMG or MG I guess.

[umbral crown]

cs issues

i need more cs in scar team to run soda tho

but with the feed that should not be a problem

[hushed kelp]

Mmm trade moran buffs for not being siren bricked? Which is better?

[loud sonnet]

Does Tdrake gives additional burst gen that i don't know?

[keen vapor]

first confirm that other people in your bracket know how to use siren

[swift mango]

You probably need more quantum slot instead.

[hushed kelp]

CA brackets change every season no?

[keen vapor]

Well, if other people succeeds on qualifying instead of the previous ones....

[dire root]

Top wins right?

[patent latch]

I do wish they added a training arena in PVP. Just a way for me to test out my own team setups against each other. While I could test out my stuff in the Rookie Arena, I can only do it 5 times a day. Not to mention the power of other players are almost always either too low or too high.

[keen vapor]

It represents the difficulty of your SP bracket

[umbral crown]

not really, ,my quatum lv10

im not gonna use 5 quatums in 1 team

[swift mango]

I only have quantum at lv8... And now I'm thinking endurance cube to 7

[dire root]

I wonder who Helm's B3 targets, I assume Helm and Cindy?

[umbral crown]

helm is single target

[umbral crown]

waos, defense cube?

[dire root]

Her B3 hits two no?

[umbral crown]

just 1

[swift mango]

I could have won yesterday against SBS if I used endurance

But lv5 is enough I guess

[dire root]

Oh, I don't know where I got 2 from, in that case top wins. Unless Bay soaks all of Cindy's damage.

[swift mango]

It's been awhile since Rosy stole any . It's history

[keen vapor]

Test for first Siren stun is complete

It did hold ASDF entirely but Abathur figured it out
@umbral crown @swift mango

It technically shows the level of intelligence of each one

I don't have a problem with a genius knowing how to counter it but I have a problem with the others figuring it out

@tropic summit you didn't used Noah I'm not noahless!

[keen vapor]

If powered by Moran, it can happen

It'll be better if Rumani was P2 tho

Lucky him, only Noise deals splash

[dire root]

Tanking a Cindy burst without immunity/indom is insane lol

[keen vapor]

It's not

However.... That Cinderella has 2 big buffers...

[dire root]

I keep going back and forth on who to cheer lol

[keen vapor]

Bay DMG distribution may not hold....

It receives pierce from Grave as well

[patent latch]

Where is this from?

[dire root]

If Cindy does enough damage to kill everyone on a team why does distribution of damage stop it from killing? Is it from her skill 1 and the damage reduction burst effect

[umbral crown]

waos, never thought that would happen

[dire root]

Like the website or the CA fight?

[primal charm]

the distribution ratio is 85/15

[umbral crown]

go C3

[keen vapor]

I need a new defense...

[umbral crown]

start investing in units

whats your current defense?

imma sleep now since its 2 am but maybe tomorrow i can give an idea

[unique wagon]

I NEED MIHARA BLANC MANA/RAPU CLIP PLS

AGAINST A PROPER TEAM like maybe Noah Biscu or someshit

[atomic wolf]

diy

[unique wagon]

😦

Cannot

[raven plover]

no buff, kinda, that team is buffed with noise and grave, prolly not tho if helm snipe grave its a different story
https://streamable.com/r54r1a

[dire root]

No way Helm snipes grave with a tressured Helm being there.

[heady peak]

https://lootandwaifus.com/nikke-team-builder/?units=310,172,191,195,355,15,830,835,550,381,270,520,70,80,511,551,311,110,330,521,40,43,72,202,101000,391,500,821,90,241,92,210,411,242,142,514,180,400,230,352000,233,353,111,150,977,100,382,82,513,190,194,181,183,290,321,832,130,350,354,102,162,141,32,260,281,590,450,380,261,232,271,430,212,131,580,30,170,313,402,403,33,16,221,226,470,820,280,283,272,240,200,282,284,222,225,22,220,224,312,314,71,140,451,192,412,501,112,431,201,171,160,390&team1=

I actually have no idea how to build pvp teams..... well the correct way. I'm in a fairly easy bracket... only one guy in my group buys core dust... otherwise everyone else in my group is not difficult. So I keep staying in top 3. I don't know how to build for champions arena.

is there anyone here who's a wiz with pvp champ arena comps?

i've seen the tools for RL % and all that.. 2.5 1.5 etc..

but idg it

[unique wagon]

Not the loot and waifu bruteforce

[heady peak]

??

[unique wagon]

The link namee

[heady peak]

ooh idk it's just what I use

cause i can show all the units I have

[unique wagon]

@tropic summit

Help him cant open lootwaifus on phone

[crystal flicker]

Emililess

Easier to use Screenshots tbh

That link doesnt show your investment

[heady peak]

emilia?

Ooh did I not put her? I have her

also I figured putting 100000 secreen shots was more annoying lol.

it's more or less my job to make sure they are invested if I'm given advice on how to build teams with what I have. At least I assumed so

[unique wagon]

Its both ways

Knowing investments is important. U just dont invest blindly

[patent latch]

Isn't that the same thing?

[keen vapor]

Same, no Mihara

[keen vapor]

Helm will often have no attack lines while Grave have reasons to go for multiple ones

[crystal flicker]

Considering how Mio needs atk buff and death mechanics, what if dev really makes this Nikke

[coarse lake]

eh idk, helmt is attacker

most ppl do run helmt with atk, since she's water dps

also what's the grave cp

[keen vapor]

Guillotine treasure

[crystal flicker]

It'll be more believable if it's Rossana, to go along with her sacc

[keen vapor]

It'll be contradicting with the part or Concealment

[crystal flicker]

How

Just add new pASSive like what they did to other Treasure

• Reduce leftmost Nikke hp 1
• When leftmost Nikke die, revive with 50% hp

[keen vapor]

Her skill is to not receive damage and be buffed for it

[crystal flicker]

Her kit also to receive buff from dead allies

[keen vapor]

Allies, not herself
Bc she avenges them

She's a mafia boss

[coarse lake]

moot point, bc they never making such pvp-specific nikke again

they steered away from that path long ago

[crystal flicker]

What about Soline

Burst: Kill entire team

[keen vapor]

They just did, with Siren

[keen vapor]

So, nuke

[crystal flicker]

Yes, Nuke your own team

[unique wagon]

Need tests for above

[patent latch]

I'd like some advice for the third team at the bottom.

[coarse lake]

she's not that heavily pvp specific

a single gimmick of her kit that is also very useful for pve, happens to be interesting in pvp

is a trash b1 buffer, trash gen

units like jackal, rosa, nero are what I consider heavily pvp specific

that convoluted hp mechanic idea isn't gonna work on a general nikke with a single pvp gimmick

[crystal flicker]

The issue with Mio in PvP is she provides so little gen and so much feeds

[coarse lake]

mio? mihara?

[crystal flicker]

To many feeds, RH easily countered by Defender + Biscuit or Blanc's Indom

[crystal flicker]

MIhara Overspec

[coarse lake]

that's a weird acronym

[keen vapor]

These names maked up to avoid confusion with the useless version aren't helping

[coarse lake]

well still need those tests done, but from what I've seen, her comps are whatever

[crystal flicker]

It's simple and sounds good

[coarse lake]

I just call her mihara

[keen vapor]

And I thought you were talking about a Star Rail waifu or something

[coarse lake]

bc who uses actual base mihara

[unique wagon]

Miho

MihO

[crystal flicker]

Idk Mio HSR
The only Mio I know is that K-on Bassist

[unique wagon]

Miho

[crystal flicker]

I can't test that sacc coz I don't have invested stall

[coarse lake]

mbc

[unique wagon]

Then do the 2nd sac

[crystal flicker]

Mo

[keen vapor]

Mihara

[unique wagon]

Any comps with Mihara Blanc Rapu/Mana Flex.Flex

[keen vapor]

Can't

[unique wagon]

WHY CUS U DONT HAVE MIHARA SEE I TOLD U @crystal flicker

[crystal flicker]

Echo have invested stall

[keen vapor]

Yeh

[unique wagon]

But he doesnt have Mihara

[unique wagon]

Go try Blanc Rapu/Mana

Gatrix did this and Mihara didnt die. Lmao

[coarse lake]

I feel like that cindy team can live the dot

esp since I think decoy takes the dot

if decoy dies to dot, does it reapply to cindy? it shouldn't right?

someone should test that too

cindy might just be straight up immune to the mihara covid

[unique wagon]

Idk tbh

[coarse lake]

in the gatrix vid I saw, it seems she is

[unique wagon]

Which vid

[coarse lake]

the only dmg she took to hp was from biscuit splash, dot ticked on decoy only

[unique wagon]

WHERE DID HE POST HIS VID

[unique wagon]

Can Mihara chain be taunted

[coarse lake]

hmm not sure

[quick lake]

Seems like problematic pvp unit

[coarse lake]

even if it can, several of them should fire off before first 1rl lands, prob enough to tag everyone

[patent latch]

How about this then? Would it work?

[unique wagon]

Yes fine

[keen vapor]

Blanc might not survive for long enough

[patent latch]

Any recommendations?

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Have Tia?

[patent latch]

Yes

[crystal flicker]

This one better, can replace Noir with Anis

[keen vapor]

Wait, that won't do it, need 6 slots

[keen vapor]

And Rumani?

[patent latch]

No

[crystal flicker]

Move Cindy from P2 to P3 or 4

That's feed you give enemy

[patent latch]

Understood

[fathom rock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946720097031045161/1367400453372907541/HnVideoEditor_2025_05_01_102028508.mp4?ex=68147269&is=681320e9&hm=b75a76a32e6f9a21e1cbad554aca03f62ef192c9e146ebcee989a7c13642a37b&

[unique wagon]

Got what u want @crystal flicker

Thats crazy strong

[surreal reef]

What is the usual pvp build and randoms for jackal and where do i usually team her up with???
Im not content with what prydwen is saying that shes ok with all 4????

[grand plaza]

Most common Nikkes to bundle her is Scarlet and Blanc

[swift mango]

@unique wagon Someone is flying you a complain.

[surreal reef]

Im referring to the website....and im not aware theres a user named Prdywen so apologies if ever

[swift mango]

He is staff of that website

[heady peak]

regardless, ego shouldn't be a thing. So he doesn't really need to apologize. If he has an actual question, and is willing to debate his reasoning.

[swift mango]

If you want Jackal to Burst and buff one shot like HelmT, you upgrade her skill 3.
If you wanted her debuff being a little better, upgrade skill 1.
Skill 2 mostly for CP pad.

some people 101010 their Biscuit and Jackal just for CP padding. @umbral crown

[heady peak]

CP padding is legit....

I have definitely won a few I shouldn't have because of it

sadly it seems with champion arena that isn't the case any more haha

[quick lake]

Mihara investment?

[fathom rock]

7/7/7 1 atk 4 ele 1 ammo r10

[quick lake]

Looks… pretty good

Might be able to do lv1 sac in SPA

[heady peak]

wait is mihara actually PVP material? i thought yall were joking earlier when I saw that

and just messing around for fun

[unique wagon]

With all whom

[surreal reef]

Ill just read thoroughly......instead ty
Ill figure out things

[unique wagon]

There is no Blade on Cindy how did she die

Jackal

Oh so Cindy BLOCKS DoT

[surreal reef]

The reason why i said that is maybe its possible to raise jackal's skills to all 7 or remain to all 4
I remembered prydwen and was thinking if its possible to raise the skill level higher......

[unique wagon]

Yes u can for the damage taken

[swift mango]

Mihara give lots of burst gen in this video I think... @bleak shale You have her burst gen?

[unique wagon]

She does not

But the blade does count as one hit

And each DoT is also one hit

Its ??? Cus u cant tell lmao

[swift mango]

But that team almost 2rl with just 2 clip

[heady peak]

Here is current champions team set up. I obviously need a lot of improvement. Ideally... what are the best top 5 teams currently? Is it also better to go tree with Moran instead of scarlet? I've also been seeing people use Mermaid in pvp... where would she be used.. if she is actually legitimate to use

[swift mango]

should be barely 3rl if Mihara didn't give lots of gen

[unique wagon]

True 3 RL didnt even hit

[swift mango]

at 2rl it already like 90%, almost filled

[surreal reef]

So some say og scarlet is good at 10 7 10 for pvp???

[heady peak]

Also these are the units I have currently. Ignore the lvl 1s... nothing past that is honestly worth talking about for pvp.

[unique wagon]

Well each blade is 1 shot so

And each DoT is also 1 shot

If 5 enemies get hit then its free 5 shots per sec

Also Cinderella

[quick lake]

here
#pvp-arena message

[unique wagon]

Is in P2

[swift mango]

Xmaiden also give only 1 extra hit but that one hit more than double her burst gen from normal RL.

[unique wagon]

Cinderella P2

[surreal reef]

Oooh lemme read lemme

[swift mango]

LapT give 2 extra hit and still lower gen than Xmaiden.

[unique wagon]

Cinderella P2

[swift mango]

[heady peak]

wait that's what 2RL means.. I didn't understand wtf that means when people said 2RL or 2.5RL etc. So it's progress of the burst bar? So then is it 2 and half attack rounds for 2.5RL?

[unique wagon]

Burst speed

[swift mango]

MB I guess.

[heady peak]

yes burst speed, but the number is what... how many rounds they need to get full burst bar?

[unique wagon]

Biscuit getting oneshot means unprotected by Jackal also gets oneshot

[surreal reef]

Im just asking for a jackal skillbuild but uhh tnx i took some ss and maybe rebuild my pvp teams tnx

[unique wagon]

U can use Noah then

No need Blancu

Just ur regularanti wipe

[quick lake]

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/pvp-mechanics/

[unique wagon]

But Noah might taunt away

[quick lake]

444 that’s all

17% cs from OL if u want to go the extra mile

[swift mango]

I do 755

[quick lake]

[surreal reef]

Uhm one more
Your list
Is it applicable for solo pvp as well???

[swift mango]

Rock is more costy than Skill book now, not gonna reroll her anymore.

[unique wagon]

So whats Mihara PvP tier

Id say S or A

Too many counters but also many creative plays

[quick lake]

For rookie? Can just use any teams. Rookie doesn’t mayter

[unique wagon]

Seems more reliable than Rapipi for wiping tho

[swift mango]

Should be SS... She is a better SBS that can't be countered as easily... Idk her dmg without saccing though...

[quick lake]

for spa sac maybe

[unique wagon]

Cindy literally counters her

[swift mango]

Counter how?

[unique wagon]

Better SBS? Doubt

[coarse lake]

If she doesn't die she does like no dmg

[unique wagon]

Lower burst gen

[coarse lake]

Very risky, good for pvp atk sure

[unique wagon]

And needs to die

[brazen nova]

so i just got Trina, who i should switch with her?

[swift mango]

SBS could be defeat with Biscuit and endurance cube.

[unique wagon]

Hard to justify SS

[quick lake]

yea, her kit too restrictive

[unique wagon]

Well no one prevents u from doing Rosanna or Makima Biscu stall

[quick lake]

I think her dmg is good though. Mana Rosanna Mihara double sacc

[unique wagon]

Id say S for creativity alone lol

[fathom rock]

@honest peak @tropic summit i beat it
BUT THE GAME CRASHED RIGHT AFTER

[coarse lake]

Run Cindy comp, mihara def neutered fully

[swift mango]

That's why I asked if for her dmg without dying.

[coarse lake]

Also don't run jackal Cindy, that makes Cindy vulnerable

[swift mango]

again how? She just beat Cindy in that video.

[coarse lake]

That's only bc of jackal

[unique wagon]

Wrong chat?

[swift mango]

Even without Jackal, her decoy only give so much hp...

[fathom rock]

ye
Test mihara without die?

[coarse lake]

Decoy takes the dot, not Cindy

[unique wagon]

No dmg at all lmao

Her death maxes all debuff stacks

[coarse lake]

Decoy is separate entity

[unique wagon]

No death means no stacks

Dont troll la

[fathom rock]

Sounds A tier to me then

[unique wagon]

Im more interested in stall team trolling and offburst potential

[coarse lake]

Can stall team even stay 3rl with her

[quick lake]

Yeah, A looks about right. Needing to be sac kinda meh

[swift mango]

Do you need to revive her to deal dmg or not?

[coarse lake]

If she stays dead dmg takes huge hit, bursting doubles dot, then full burst buff

[quick lake]

That sounds like a pain. B tier Mihara

[swift mango]

What if she not bursting but die after entering full burst.

[coarse lake]

I think she only loses full burst then? Still great dmg if so?

Not sure

[swift mango]

Would the dot dmg lose all the buff if she died or not?

[coarse lake]

Her dying after burst might do nothing

Burst replaces regular virus with super virus, dying gives regular, not sure both can exist

[swift mango]

If not alive how would the buff on her applied?

[coarse lake]

You debuff enemy

[unique wagon]

Yes

[swift mango]

There are also self buffes like "Sustain damage up", "full burst bonus 50% dmg", Liter/rh buff .etc...

[coarse lake]

Those gone on death

She just base stats when dead, not even ol apparently

[swift mango]

what about OL line?

[unique wagon]

Nothing changes

[swift mango]

[unique wagon]

Does Rosanna conceal protect from Blades

[coarse lake]

It should, but someone needs to test

Although indom mihara can beat Rosa anyway

[swift mango]

Mihara died to SG, revived then died again before blanc burst

[coarse lake]

Can't even low sync sac her bc she needs to do dmg...

[unique wagon]

A tier give or take

Or S

[swift mango]

Alice should be A tier too.

[unique wagon]

[coarse lake]

Prob need more tests

[shell hazel]

what are the general numbers like for properly built Mihara? I had a rough time on the pulls last night and went to mileage instead.
I got her to SR-5, overloaded one bit of gear, and 7/7/7 skills for now, I didn't want to spend too much resources on her

[unique wagon]

She is A

[unique wagon]

She is also good with stall but also need to die

[swift mango]

Last I checked she was SS.

[coarse lake]

Yeah, stall vs defending SG is easiest

Otherwise.. idk how, vs scar but hope your Nero Moran can stay alive?

[swift mango]

For Nero team, the key point is Moran burst before Scar and Nero+Rapunzel survive her wipe.

[coarse lake]

I don't think you can make 3rl good stall with mihara

Gotta take out rapu..

[quick lake]

yeah. Stop the mihara copium

[swift mango]

without rapu can't revive

[unique wagon]

You can

[swift mango]

She is better than Rapipi at least.

[swift mango]

Just indom her and it's stall already

[quick lake]

u need sac, not viable imo

[coarse lake]

Is her gen same as rapipi

Bc nero Moran Helmt rapu rapipi is 3.5rl

[unique wagon]

Better

Slightly

[swift mango]

use that team without HelmT and it become 6RL stall,hope nothing like Cindy or even Rapipi wipe you before you burst.

[quick lake]

Maybe some niche attack teams sure. But defence and CA usage doesnt seem that viable

[unique wagon]

CA is viable due to randomness

Sp Defense sure not

[coarse lake]

I think my only team maybe weak to indom mihara is SG if attacking

Immune cindy, 2rl scar jack, 3rl indom (rng), lifesteal sanis

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

[unique wagon]

Lifesteal SAnis

Would be fun

[coarse lake]

Sanis can probably heal through it? Could be close

[swift mango]

His ASS team wont survive

[unique wagon]

I think if Mihara bursts with Blanc shes dead though for sure

[swift mango]

sureee

[unique wagon]

Noah got oneshot and Biscuit too from 60-70%

And that is 7/7/7

[coarse lake]

Moran b1, prob takes 3 ticks to kill

[unique wagon]

I said with Blanc

[swift mango]

Moran isn't that strong she got negated by Blanc and more

[unique wagon]

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

Yeah but isn't that biscuit with Blanc

Moran helps negate that

[unique wagon]

Well so u know Mihara is 1600% per sec

[swift mango]

Not much, You think your Moran god or sth

Even Merry Moran doesn't win against Blanc.

[coarse lake]

How much is unbuffed Cindy nuke in comparison

[unique wagon]

Dunno

1365*2

Somewhat

But HP scaling

[swift mango]

Like about the same from that video but she doesn't only do 2 ticks. And Cindy nuke unbuffed mean no Blanc.

[buoyant estuary]

When i put biscuit on position 5 does she get the invulnerability too against lets say a shotgun team?

[swift mango]

No

[buoyant estuary]

ty good to know

[coarse lake]

Will need to know how she compares to Cindy, but I think there's a chance considering how it killed the no Moran biscuit

[tropic summit]

hmm next step could be this, although only change once CP isn't taking a huge hit, else it's not worth it

you can work toward the following:

-finish ur campaign team
-finish ur kraken team
-finish helmT

then:
scarlet 4/4/7, R15/SR5, 4OL
wishlist jackal and rumani

attached are the units you should raise to improve

[swift mango]

You see from your video, if Cindy hit 3rd time or one of the hit crit your ASS would have gone bye bye already

And that's without Blanc

[tropic summit]

need to see box, box doko?

@heady peak

[coarse lake]

Blanc no Moran 2 shot biscuit, then wouldn't Blanc and Moran 3 shot sanis

[tropic summit]

[coarse lake]

I have 3 seconds to heal my full hp, or almost full hp

[tropic summit]

once she doesn't tank CP can replace anchor in T3 to promote it to 3RL

[coarse lake]

That's 6 shots and proj

[swift mango]

In the video of retro, she did 2/3 HP to 3 Nikke from full while actually only did dmg to 2( Cindy didn't count).

Also, one shot biscuit not 2.

[coarse lake]

Didn't it do 60%

Was biscuit full hp

[swift mango]

It one shot from 70% but should be 100% fine if we consider how it did 2/3 of 3 HP bar hitting only 2/3 linked unit.

[tropic summit]

added nao

(T1 you can make it natural or feed 2RL)
(T3 up to you, if offburst dps, extra sustain or just padding)

[coarse lake]

One of the linked is ele weak

[swift mango]

So ask Retro if he had 3 Ele line.

He should be that lucky with his initial roll

@fathom rock how many Ele line your Mihara has?

[fathom rock]

4 that add up to 50%

[swift mango]

[fathom rock]

15.15
15.15
10.94
9.54
47 rocks btw

[coarse lake]

How much atk

[fathom rock]

7.59

[swift mango]

Better than me 10 rock no CS.

[fathom rock]

R10
7/7/7
No cube i forgor

Ol lv0 but helmet lv2

I should do more tests

[swift mango]

Are you happy with your Mihara

[fathom rock]

No
She wip

[unique wagon]

Rip shes unreliable

[fathom rock]

Very

Why A tier sounds right

[swift mango]

Could u do a video with Unlinked Cindy?

[fathom rock]

I cant find an unlinked cindy

[swift mango]

Look to lower and worse teams

[fathom rock]

And this is the one dude running noah biscu without linked cindy
100% the comp wont work here

[swift mango]

There is no unlinked Cindy in this pic.

[fathom rock]

Hmmm

This guy low lvl tho

[swift mango]

Maybe u will need a team with 4 nikkes

[unique wagon]

As long as within cp gap

[fathom rock]

Cant counter cindy indeed

[coarse lake]

Hard countered by the 2nd most common pvp dps

[tropic summit]

wow that sucks

[fathom rock]

A tier sounds like her spot

[coarse lake]

Biscuit didn't get dot either, actual random

[fathom rock]

I had a run where noah ate most the dot and therefore i lost

[coarse lake]

A random regular nikke can just not get dot and beat you, don't need Cindy

[tropic summit]

maybe should skip her afterall

[fathom rock]

B-A tier unit

[swift mango]

A random regular Nikke can just get Soda stun too but she stuned my Bay. Mihara Sound like good deal for CA

[shell hazel]

Mihara pulls weren't good to me lol, only good thing I did get was Modernia but feel she's not worth investing too much atm

[coarse lake]

Yeah but soda backed up by nuke

[fathom rock]

Low deficit s tier
High deficit a-s tier
Boss ss tier
Pvp b tier
This sounds right

[coarse lake]

Mihara... Only has dot

[shell hazel]

should I work on Drake treasure or Laplace treasure? I feel like Drake might give me a better boost (SG team + raids) and then I can do Laplace one after?

[tropic summit]

pve unit

[swift mango]

No bay stun = Nuke blocked = I win.

[coarse lake]

She gotta gun them down the old fashioned way

[swift mango]

As long as it's not 0 it may as well be 100% for CA winners

[coarse lake]

Mihara can technically lose to a ton of random comps, no need for specific unit

[fathom rock]

Id consider rrh over midhara for pvp

[coarse lake]

Or add Cindy, guarantee loss

Cindy basically on every comp

[fathom rock]

Rrh with rng + need to die = midhara

[swift mango]

As long as Cindy can't be in 5 team at once, she may as be on none of them for CA champs.

[coarse lake]

Ah yes the just get lucky strat

[shell hazel]

not really sure what I want to invest into next tbh, I did add some skills to Rosanna, boosted Noise skills a bit and got her to R-15

[fathom rock]

What kinda logic is this

[shell hazel]

bunch of nikkes still in R-0 dolls but I probably need to get Siren to SR-15 in the next solo raid if I can

Blanc burst to 10? Trina skill 2 to 10? Noise burst to 7? Rosanna skills generally to somewhere?

[tropic summit]

considering you wanted to upgrade ur SG team, drakeT would be a direct upgrade
you could use laplace+ anyway as non feeding clip SG burst gen tier, up to you really

[swift mango]

Like that guy who won 2012 world championship in Yu-Gi-Oh with a 90% the time bricked deck and won with a treat of 1/2million chance to happen.

Irl story

[shell hazel]

yeah I think Drake makes some sense, also I get the materials via the event, I can set the focus to laplace materials for bulletin

plus Drake is way closer to SR-15 (SR-5)

[coarse lake]

Rng matchup, side rng, dot rng, dying rng

[shell hazel]

should I put more skills to my units here or should I skill up Drake for treasury goodness?

[swift mango]

There is 0% chance to lose RNG for real champ

[shell hazel]

she's 4/4/4 atm

[coarse lake]

Mihara comp still better than half the t5s I see

[swift mango]

I got Mihara in 0 pulls. Easy.