pvp-arena

[dire root]

Hard enough to kill what I assume is a heavily invested SBS?

Siren stun may also play a role.

[crystal flicker]

Shes stun Viper tho

[dire root]

actually never mind Cindy should burst before stun, it shouldn't matter

[dire root]

I meant like in terms of burst gen

the stun dragging down speed

[crystal flicker]

Nah

Siren stun in CA is 3RL #pvp-arena message

[lusty pelican]

hello @hollow eagle may i ask this one? ur prediction won yesterday btw 🙏

[crystal flicker]

That comp is 2.5, the burst gen will be full already

[limber bluff]

Hi, could i get some help with the 3 teams for special arena, thank you

[finite imp]

please give me the best team arena for pvp not collab hero please except eva

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-anime-super-saiyan-dbz-dragon-ball-gif-16589862

[hollow eagle]

I'd vote for left

[lusty pelican]

ty my homie ❤️

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Trina La+ Centi Jackal
Blanc ScarBS Biscuit Noir Rumani
Noah RH Siren Anis Noise

[limber bluff]

Thank you

[swift mango]

That's nice to know. I will be able to see what it is soon.

Wish you win this season before that.

[warm monolith]

Yes,also i did if im not mistaken

@tropic summit

[swift mango]

You could build that Emi team to anti SBS... Too bad I didn't build my team that way.

[quick lake]

[hollow eagle]

too bad I have 0 interest in C.A

[swift mango]

And maybe lose this CA because of that.

I got Mihara brothas.

[river moat]

are there ppl here still who help idiots make their pvp teams for them

[swift mango]

@tropic summit

[river moat]

probly asleep

[swift mango]

Just send you box and people will cook for you.

---

Overspec Yuni when?

[coarse lake]

coo

[keen vapor]

Next anni

[river moat]

bruuuhhhh dont tell me i have too many attachments after i do all that work

[keen vapor]

Yes

[swift mango]

4 per comment

[swift mango]

Coo...k?

[river moat]

current team and box

[coarse lake]

coo coo

[swift mango]

Now you're to cook

[river moat]

my current teams do very well against ppl of a similar power level

i just want to use siren somewhere

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Replace her with liter

[river moat]

replace her with siren* ?

[coarse lake]

watch his siren p1 not be linked

[keen vapor]

I can't invest on Rosanna if I have to invest the 2 banner releases

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

honestly I wouldn't be surprised if his liter isn't linked rn either

[river moat]

what is link

[coarse lake]

[swift mango]

Link with Jackal skill

[swift mango]

You could move Jackal to p1 to be safe.

Noir to p5 maybe if she linked instead of Siren

[river moat]

what are u talking about

[keen vapor]

Clear instructions

[grizzled bone]

time to use the stash Echo

[keen vapor]

P stands for position

It goes 1-5, bc that's how many members has a team

[river moat]

then who goes to p4

[keen vapor]

HOW DID YOU KNEW

[grizzled bone]

I always know

[keen vapor]

Don't pepeh me

[grizzled bone]

[river moat]

i assume u both mean here. what changes?

[crystal flicker]

No

MG PvP in general just brick

I still can't accept lose to my own feeds

ffs

[daring gust]

Any thought on 2 lower team

[swift mango]

Switch Siren in place of Liter. Then do a mock battle and pause to see the 2 unit with Jackal skill on it. Put them and Jackal to p1+2+5. The rest could be anywhere.

[river moat]

ok

[swift mango]

Probably
R
L

[daring gust]

[keen vapor]

Right (no fire power and slow team on the left)
Left

[daring gust]

ok i trust you guys

[keen vapor]

Blood I'm serious
Who do I invest?

Rosanna? Nero? Third obscure option?

Help

[daring gust]

Rosanna

[swift mango]

Nero is cheaper than Rossanna if you already have Rapu and Moran max and high CP.

Rossana if you wanted to put her in the team with as much high CP Attacker units as possible.

Anyway, go with the way that give more CP.

Or just swipe your credit card

[keen vapor]

I don't have credit cards I like paying what I own

[swift mango]

No rookie today to test team...maybe I test with SPA...

[graceful grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986

[keen vapor]

[graceful grotto]

i wanna invest in rosanna but girl is so expensive

investing in her is like investing in a meta b3 for raids

[swift mango]

You only need 71010 for her. OL line could be suck.

[graceful grotto]

i thought she also needs SR 15 + atk line on OL?

[swift mango]

That's only minmaxing

[graceful grotto]

time to build her next then, after miharara

[crystal flicker]

Rosa is good

I'd pick her over Nero stall

You don't have to survive, you just need to kill them before they can kill you

[swift mango]

it's all bout CP for Echo, His Moran is 101010 so he would be more inclined for Nero than normal people.

[coarse lake]

oh this again

well, as I keep saying, there's a good and easy fix for that issue

[graceful grotto]

welp rosanna can make a bad 3.5 / 4RL team into a good team, so there's that

[glad glade]

Who do you think wins? This is the determining match in my cheer. Viper team is attacking and RH team is defending. I personally think that viper team wins because of investment and that Naga is vulnerable to ele, but that pepper looks really fragile and the B2 is a lead in

Both teams are 3 RL, but Viper team has a 14% faster burst gen (115% vs 101%)

[graceful grotto]

Treasure viper? That would slow the burst rotation if I'm not wrong

But Blanc Indo is hard to beat so I'll say team 1 take this

[grand plaza]

If bottom defending top simply kills Naga and gg?

[graceful grotto]

Red hood can b2

[grand plaza]

My bad

[glad glade]

Yep, you’re correct. Tia comes to mind. Anyways, no risk of Pepper getting shot? Cause once she’s dead, it’s joever

[graceful grotto]

She's in the safest position so unless she's squishy af I think she'll be fine

[glad glade]

Hmmm IRRC, defending SG goes from reverse order (P5-P4-etc). Unless if I’m wrong

[swift mango]

He just need to make new account .

[grand plaza]

Yeah you are right

[coarse solstice]

ViperT Blanc is some wild tech

[grand plaza]

I feel like that soda would hold enough tho

[graceful grotto]

There's a possibility that T2 bsoda burst kill every in T1 except viper and viper ended up not being able to kill T2 before Indo runs out tho

[coarse lake]

before that, he needs to open all his core dust boxes

[glad glade]

Who knows, that might actually be possible. Nasty surprises has occurred this season that prevented me from getting that silver frame…

That viper really screws everything up

[swift mango]

he said not enough and no money to whale.

[coarse lake]

I don't believe him, he must have some core dust boxes hidden somewhere, in a selection box probably

[glad glade]

Anyways, thank you. I’ll go with Viper team

[glad glade]

Hmmmm. Ele from Noir kind of concerns me, not to mention he also has the power of 4 SGs as well, uninvested as they are

[keen vapor]

Her CP sucks if I don't care for OL lines

[grand plaza]

I would go with Viper team as well, gl

[swift mango]

I mean suck as in hit rate or cs

[glad glade]

Thank you

[keen vapor]

I don't have enough core dust for 421 I need current even hard mode and I'm stuck in hard campaign

[coarse lake]

did you include all your central gov boxes and all the others

[keen vapor]

1000 of 1151 I did

[coarse lake]

do you need 421 to get in range or something

if so just wait a few days

[keen vapor]

well, I'm in CP range but level diff is killing my attempts

[coarse lake]

make better teams smh, or invest better

[tropic summit]

ye hence "attack teams", their defense teams should never be a problem unless you're missing core pvp units or heavily gapped

[coarse lake]

stat diff has never perma stopped me, only cp diff

well you're not lagging behind by any noticeable amount at least, I'm still about 10 sync ahead

[keen vapor]

A bit old record but situation hasn't changed at 401

[coarse lake]

have you tried 2rl noah biscuit setup

[keen vapor]

How I buff then

[coarse lake]

holy hell your units do no dmg

what was that emi nuke

[coarse lake]

with someone like rh

or use siren to make them rapu burst

indom rapipi can probably do it too

if high invest

[keen vapor]

Can I stop B1 at 2 RL?

[coarse lake]

although you still wanna block their lifesteal

they didn't seem like 2rl, are they?

[keen vapor]

Well, I get B3, they B1....

Ok, 3 RL, you got me

[tropic summit]

to think blade is running THAT 5th team

[shell hazel]

Railtracer who do you think wins my next set? I am def/bottom again

I think I win 3/4

maybe 1 as I'll work backwards through their team as SG on def so mana is dead pretty quick

2 is interesting they're going for helm burst on this instead of cindy

[tropic summit]

you're missing several core pvp units and no helm treasure, go with this for now i guess

noah viper cind anis rh
sbs blanc rrh noir jackal (run sbs rrh blanc noir jackal instead if blanc is not R5 4OL)
crown grave alice siren naga

get biscuit, rumani, centi, trina, scarlet
get helm treasured

get your teams reviewed then

[tropic summit]

depending on T1 snowballing and ur rosanna investiment, you may or may not win P1

what are her skills and OLs

[shell hazel]

rosanna? basically 0 invest atm, I can change it for next CA maybe and improve a bit

[tropic summit]

then you may lose that p1

if noise + bay get going they'll outlast you

[shell hazel]

their t1 is super low invest as well though

[tropic summit]

awesome

[shell hazel]

60-80K cp for most, drake at 90k

[tropic summit]

looks like barely 4OL, low doll

[tropic summit]

no doll on noise and bay

and noise will taunt bsoda for ele weak dmg

maybe they won't even have a B1 when they burst

[tropic summit]

but ur bsoda super weak too

let's just sign up that match for RNG

[shell hazel]

she is actually just there to die mostly 😄

to boost the burst speed of rosanna

[tropic summit]

is ur rosanna 7/10/10

[shell hazel]

no literally 0 invested

[tropic summit]

then the f are u boosting

[shell hazel]

no ol, 1/1/1

[tropic summit]

she gonna generate so little burst won't even matter

[shell hazel]

I got a good number of skill books saved but partially this is for mihara min invest

[tropic summit]

save them for mihara

CA is hardly worth that

[shell hazel]

nah but I know I need to invest a bit into them for CA and SPA usage 🙂

[tropic summit]

(assuming mihara will be good or not)

[shell hazel]

I am presumably also going to need to 10/10/7 Siren at some point

[tropic summit]

[crystal flicker]

That's 2RL

[crystal flicker]

This one I'm just out of ideas lmao

[shell hazel]

Abe spotted

[coarse lake]

Did you factor in the unit dying in 1rl time

[tropic summit]

very optimistic

[coarse lake]

Or even 0.5rl time

[crystal flicker]

I did, my prev Cindy comp dies b4 Helm even can shoot

My main is Scarlet, Cindy, and ScarBS (Feed to 3RL / 2.5 if La+ and Jackal can get 17%)
SG 2RL, from what I observe P23 survive more than 1RL, and even against 2RL Scarlet she still able to shoot and gave burst gen + sacc
T3 is just random stuff, bcoz I'm out of B2

[shell hazel]

wondering what to invest into next though beyond Mihara, and tbh I can invest in her in the bg a bit, and Asuka W for kraken I need to sort at some point.
I've added some more units to my core pvp set to show where they are but it's pretty rough 😛

I think I should finish Siren to 10/10/7 and Helm I'm close to just 10/10/10 so can do that, afterwards I'd have skill materials to spare for random pvp/raid units

[crystal flicker]

Oh I followed your step and also make this kind of tracker lol

[grand plaza]

Bruh that's too neat

[shell hazel]

I got a sheet (happy to share template) but it's still manual update 😛

[coarse lake]

444 Blanc is crazy

[crystal flicker]

Rosa is a choice if you want to try sacc

[grand plaza]

I might take it

[shell hazel]

4/4/4 is my min invest

I have plans to expand skill assignments to the pvp units where it makes sense beyond 4/4/4 but I need to really focus on the best bang for buck there

[grand plaza]

Yeah that's the f2p way

[shell hazel]

sheet is my updated one just delete/edit stuff as needed

[grand plaza]

I still couldn't decide what to do with my campaign team, whether I should invest on Siren or Ein for MC or Mihara or surprise Red Hood or...

[shell hazel]

I also track my kraken rocks in it, separate tab, can just delete it

[tropic summit]

finally some good ol' xls with macro injects

[coarse lake]

Losing 13% DMG taken is quite massive

[shell hazel]

am not f2p but not really buying my way to skills etc either

[grand plaza]

Is it possible to upload this to google docs? I don't have office on my PC or I usually use them

[shell hazel]

for Blanc? what is the recommended mins here?

[grand plaza]

My eyes

[crystal flicker]

[shell hazel]

I should be able to spare doll upgrades as well for pvp at least getting more to R-15 or SR-5 where appropriate

noise was going to be my next one as she takes some hits

[coarse lake]

Every bit counts imo

[grand plaza]

Dolls are never enough for me.

I will stop using blues for SR5-SR10 tho, I feel like I can get much more value if I make more SR5 units

[shell hazel]

what skill of hers reduces damage taken? I'm reading them but not seeing it

[coarse lake]

Burst

[shell hazel]

it says it heals and max hp +, all enemies take extra damage

but unless it's hidden in indom it doesn't say I take less damage?

[coarse lake]

You don't, you make enemies take more

[shell hazel]

so what is the recommended min here? it took ages to get everyone to 4/4/4 whilst doing my campaign teams, it's why Trina is only just at 4/7/4

but now the campaign teams are basically done I can re-focus here

have only been playing 6 months (last anni to this) so some of the lack of investment is just resources/time really

[coarse lake]

Blanc burst is huge returns, Trina past 474 is miniscule in comparison

[grand plaza]

I would just increase burst

[shell hazel]

to what though? 😄

7? 10?

[coarse lake]

Until you can't go further

[grand plaza]

7 for starters, but probably someone else after that for efficiency

[shell hazel]

what other obvious gaps do I have in the skills?

[grand plaza]

Looks like you have Anis summer for example, wouldn't she worth spending some?

[shell hazel]

I don't

SR anis only

[grand plaza]

I read it as SummeR lol

[shell hazel]

4/5/7 Blanc for now I don't have many burst materials left, I'll need them to at least 4-5 burst on mihara

but noted I'll Blanc burst to 10 when I can!

[grand plaza]

You couldve left 1-2 at 4, but I guess second skill would be still helpful for SR and stuff

[shell hazel]

yeah min rec there for pve is 5 anyway

skill manuals I am somewhat swimming in compared to burst

I prob have enough to 7/7/5 or so on mihara and have some leftover maybe

[grand plaza]

Thanks to the best villain

[shell hazel]

yeah, speaking of I have her at SR-5 and may push to SR-15/fav item sometime, but laplace+ also a thing

some invested SG team can be good for raids as well

[grand plaza]

Depends on what you prioritize more I guess, Pvp or solo raid

[shell hazel]

atm pvp

if I can invest and benefit in both then it's even better

[grand plaza]

Laplace looks like a better choice then,

Bot from what I can see both helps in both situations

[shell hazel]

laplace may help my towers also

[grand plaza]

Looks like you found your answer ^^

Or idk maybe it's best to just focus on Mihara?

Depends on how broken she is I guess

[shell hazel]

I need at least 2 good dps for missilis

and I don't have any atm (my Ein is basic invest only)

so mihara can be one, I imagine she'll be good

[grand plaza]

Then wouldn't be best to invest on Ein? From what I can see she is the best answer against MC, overall a good electric DPS and decent at PVP as well

Especially if you consider anomaly I think she is the best option here

[shell hazel]

nah don't need Ein that much atm, eventual thing I think, actually if I was doing that I'd be better off Asuka W for kraken so I can hit stage 6 I think

I'm pretty close, Asuka W invested would tip it

[dire root]

Who wins round 5 you think? Does quency have a delay like cindy where there is a second before the nuke happens?

[grand plaza]

It's instant but wouldn't Bay soak all

[crystal flicker]

Do you think that Queency gonna survive 3RL tho?

[dire root]

Pepper healing a little

[crystal flicker]

HelmT will snipe DrakeT

[grand plaza]

Nah

Pepper only heals at last bullet

[shell hazel]

I got here at best so far, I need another couple of hundred mill and kraken S6 is mine 😛

rapi strong though, sbs weak

[grand plaza]

Go for it then

[crystal flicker]

And true, Bay should ate all the Nuke, even Moran there to reduce the dmg

[crystal flicker]

I got similar score, but with Alice instead of Rapipi

[shell hazel]

my alice is also weak sadly

I tried it, this combo is my best atm

[dire root]

Ah, I think top wins 3 rounds then.

[shell hazel]

pepper heal isn't that insane either I don't think?

[grand plaza]

Yeah I think top is clear winner here

[dire root]

Once again against majority.

Higher level = higher chance of win am I right?

[crystal flicker]

Majority just following the previous person vote lol

[shell hazel]

cup was here in the chat yesterday 😛

[dire root]

Yeah I saw

[crystal flicker]

It's synced, so doesn't matter
Your "SKK" level wont increase if you whale CD anyway

[grand plaza]

The main reason Pepper here is burst gen + with Quency it would guarantee enemy highest damages death.

Bay to the rescue tho

[dire root]

Well there is some memerit in thinking a higher level would have better odds.

Playing the game for longer so they likey have more gear and investment and more experience in pvp. But the level gap here is small.

[crystal flicker]

You don't account smurf

[dire root]

like very small level gap

[dire root]

Ah yeah I guess the last part is smashed by alts being a thing

[crystal flicker]

and iirc that frame is CA frame

[dire root]

What frame?

[crystal flicker]

Lemme check

[dire root]

This is unrelated but I tabbed out of minecraft to do the cheer thing and tabbed back and I was ontop of a chest with a zombie staring at me unable to reach me.

[dire root]

The frame cup is wearing? I thought it was the 1st commander silver frame or somethig.

Also feels bad man, 76% are losing credit cases

[shell hazel]

oh nvm lmao I can get stage 6 without asuka W...

not much over though, not much room for rng

[crystal flicker]

It is from top 16 CA last season

[dire root]

CUP is getting a new frame this season.

I just looked at the frame list, they really give a frame for anything

even breathing

[crystal flicker]

And I'm getting his frame

[dire root]

I hope I don't get knee capped at the finish line and lose my frame.

It would suck so bad to lose the 6th cheer

[crystal flicker]

I gave up cheering this season lol

[dire root]

I want the frame and to make up some of the million credit loss from last season.

[crystal flicker]

You're not joining CA?

[dire root]

Wdym joing CA?

Don't you have to be near the top of SP to join CA?

[crystal flicker]

I thought you're pvp malder

[dire root]

2 of my accounts are PvP bricked by wall, 3rd just recently broke wall so now I can actually compete in SP again, I took challenger 7 really easily. just now.

[crystal flicker]

get ch3

you need to be top 3 to get enough pts for next CA

[dire root]

I think I need better defense though I keep getting knocked, or I just need to climb higher so I have less peopel targetting, top like 5 of challenger are really comfy to be in because you have so few targeting you.

[crystal flicker]

coz it's been a week since pts reset

need enough comp for that

[dire root]

My defense teams lol

[crystal flicker]

If you can get early start at CA you might end up only trading spots everyday

Is that HelmT

[dire root]

Oh, number 1 is only sync level 228.

[crystal flicker]

Buying Drake Pass is one way to treasure her instantly
Though some say you can get all in a month

[dire root]

Considering I have enough core dust to make it to 220 that isn't too bad, I may actually be competitive for SP 1st.

[crystal flicker]

You should join Union tho

for cubes

[dire root]

I am in a union.

[crystal flicker]

CP diff isn't too big, maybe push some chapters

[shell hazel]

you'll get all the drake mats eventually without using gems on it

[dire root]

I'm stuck at a bad boss atm.

[shell hazel]

6 levels for weekly challenge, about a level per day for dailies

so 13 levels per week roughly without the challenges

looks like the XP is linear at 100 xp = 1 level

[crystal flicker]

It is, but thats like 2 SPA seasons

[dire root]

Unknown crystal is kicking my ass currently.

[crystal flicker]

You can choose to invest and try to "reign" the spot by Treasuring Helm

or wait naturally

[shell hazel]

I'd wait, we got a solo raid coming up soon as well

pretty sure anyway

[deft pelican]

What the ideal amount of CS for emilia to have just from OL lines?

[quick lake]

Total 21% including s1 and OLs

38% for ideal

[crystal flicker]

21-13 = 8

[quiet fiber]

What's the prediction for this match?

[shell hazel]

[primal charm]

is there any chance jackal got no food at all and this team cant make it to 2rl chat

must i use anis to guarantee 100% 2rl ?

[shell hazel]

I mean jackal will link with scarlet think you'll get feed no matter what here

[primal charm]

oh my bad let swap rossanna to s3

[shell hazel]

isn't trina a better b2 buffer though than centi here?

why are you b2 with centi instead of trina?

[shell hazel]

RL is just an indicator anyway not an absolute, you need basically no feed at all for 2RL to work I'd say you're good

rosanna gen is low probably why it's not natively 2RL

[primal charm]

i read burst gen cal on prydgwen and they said if op team use full rl and sr they will not feed jackal

[quiet fiber]

Thanks again for the analysis.

[shell hazel]

think just being hit on the link adds some regardless, though less if it's not smg/mg etc

but not 100% on it

[primal charm]

jackal got feed each 10 attack eaten

[tropic summit]

you only need 0.05%, that's for a single jackal proc or scarlet s2, impossible for that team to not be 2RL

[shell hazel]

feed will work for both p1 and p5

[primal charm]

cuz the debuff counted as a attack

[shell hazel]

so even if opponent team attacks p5 you'll get some feed

[primal charm]

let see a stall team that use all rl and sr, they will fire 14 bullet in 2rl at min

[warm monolith]

Everyone betted so close to 50/50

[tropic summit]

you don't wanna burst with RH B2 there

[shell hazel]

think it's just an example where opponent team is all SR/RL

[tropic summit]

ye there's 2 RNG teams there, makes sense

@primal charm

the most realistic low feed team is

noah biscuit cind helm rumani

this is intended to counter 2RL rosanna/scarlet/cindy

even with just 14 bullets, you'll hit 2RL

[warm monolith]

Btw what could counter noah/biscuit/sbs/thelm team on PA?

[tropic summit]

2RL s.anis

[warm monolith]

Oh,any other options rather than sanis cant work?

[tropic summit]

indom emi on 2RL

[lunar pawn]

Scarlet wins then right? RL of each team already posted above

[warm monolith]

Not limited?

[tropic summit]

[quick lake]

Defender + Biscuit

[tropic summit]

OG sakura

[primal charm]

@tropic summit @shell hazel acctually i got it why they write it 0 to 3.55

cuz if we made a team with cs% invest on rl

[tropic summit]

just use the https://nikke-deck.web.app/ to check feed

[crystal flicker]

I guess it's for double feed

[grand plaza]

Thanks for this

[primal charm]

how this team feed 7,1 %

[tropic summit]

28 bullets in 2RL

most of them coming from cindy and helm

[primal charm]

gatrix said it only feed 3,55 ( 1 jackal s1 proc)

[tropic summit]

ask the man

you can do per individual nikke for more accuracy if you want to

e.g. cindy shoots 8 bullets in 2RL

[raven plover]

3.55 is per 10 bullets right

ye so its 4x2 from RL then add cindy, 16?

thats 3.55

[tropic summit]

ye makes sense

[crystal flicker]

I feel like this the best I can do

or I can left T3 at 4RL and pushing T5 to 2.5 feed

[quick lake]

2.5RL or slower jackal really sucks. U only win against SAnis and SG teams

[tropic summit]

3RL and below is essentially less than 40% win ratio

you want to have archetypes who at best only lose against 1 other archetype

the moment that archetype can lose to multiple, may aswell scratch that team

[crystal flicker]

Soda

[tropic summit]

that is, if you aiming for finals, else just run w/e

[crystal flicker]

Wheres 2RL Cindy belong?

[tropic summit]

2RL stall team if with noah, else 2RL glass cannon

[crystal flicker]

It's pretty hard to get 3x2RL w/o Emi

[quick lake]

Ooo this is really nice. 2.5RL Nero Moran stall should be S++ imo

[tropic summit]

it's investiment dependant

that team is an exception on his own

half assed moran nero lost to archetypes they should win so i'm a bit skeptical for now

[crystal flicker]

What about 2.5RL but feed though?

Scarlet Soda need Jackal to get 2RL

[tropic summit]

ye 2RL is 2RL, regardless if you reach it with feed or not

a non natural 2RL with high feed requirement should be best considered 2.5RL

[crystal flicker]

2RL Scarlet vs (Fed) 2RL Blanc ScarBS

[tropic summit]

sounds about right, although very RNG, blanc barely survived, that match may go wrong if played multiple times

in general 2RL anti nuke/indom should always win against 2RL glass cannon

the whole point of glass cannon is to clean, if it doesn't it is as good as dead

[fiery parcel]

Good evening

[tropic summit]

making a team 2RL inevitably makes other team/s slower

soda needs to be p2 to enable countering noah

[fiery parcel]

Gonna give it a shot

Should win?

[crystal flicker]

Hows her stun targeting works? isn't that random?

[tropic summit]

T1 you're mirroring with more DPS, T2 win, T3 should kill SBS before they burst, noise/jackal will get indom

[tropic summit]

unless taunted, 2 random targets

you can cook it yourself, stop asking for spoonfed

scarlet soda flex clip RL/flex jackal

yes it's RNG if you're not aiming for soda to be taunted

the whole point of scarlet + soda team is to render invalid any 2RL noah team with noah taunt priority

scarlet 2RL with soda:

-wins against 2RL noah
-wins against any 2.5RL minus very invested moran teams
-wins against any 3RL+
-wins against SG teams

-may win against 2RL bay
-may win mirror
-may win against 2RL indom

[fiery parcel]

Ok 3-0. How about this one?

[tropic summit]

the fact soda may stun the target that prevents enemy burst chain is already pretty good

[crystal flicker]

Avg 2RL Cindy only feed 7.1, same goes for 2RL Scarlet

[tropic summit]

T1 hard counter SBS via taunt + biscuit
T2 RNG, leaning on loss as blanc can die within 2RL on bad RNG against scarlet s2
T3 run a different team, you'll waste bay/helm potential here

[crystal flicker]

Wdym, Siren in CA is 3RL B1

She has no use then

91.22%, still lower than needed when facing 2RL Scarlet/Cindy

[fiery parcel]

Can i move my t2 against t3, but change sanis with jackal?

And i should win t1 and t3?

[crystal flicker]

Ye

2RL Scar needs 3 Clip RL regardless for low feed, it's very expensive if lose

[grand plaza]

Everything below that is red

~~Nice number tho ~~

[shell hazel]

I leave t9m blank to denote it

the formula for count T9M sums non empty cells in the column

t9 without the m part is essentially missing anyway 🙂

[grand plaza]

Yeah just realized lol

[shell hazel]

same as skills

leave blank to denote 1 essentially

makes the colour scale more obvious from basic 4 invest to the top at 10

[fiery parcel]

Woohoo. Ok won 3-0, swapping t2 and t3, but using using siren on new t2 and and jackal instead of sanis on new t3.

[grand plaza]

Yeah I think this can help seeing what to do next

It can't be

[fiery parcel]

Is siren playable in pvp?

Maybe a stun team?

[grand plaza]

Yeah for her stun

[crystal flicker]

3RL stun

Rookie 2RL

[fiery parcel]

Do you need her to burst?

[grand plaza]

Nope

[fiery parcel]

That's... interesting. I might build her for rookie defense

She's q0/10/7 now

[crystal flicker]

It's impossible getting 3x2RL if you use Scarlet Soda

[fiery parcel]

10/10/7

[grand plaza]

Her effectiveness depends on enemy team tho, if pos1 doesn't break their burst cycle its not much useful

[fiery parcel]

Ooo

[crystal flicker]

The closest actually 2.5, even with Emi

[grand plaza]

Just to be clear it doesn't stun whole team, just p1

[crystal flicker]

Ok it's possible, 38% Emi

We need Re:0 Rerun

[grand plaza]

With how many broken units coming, you probably won't miss it after a while

[crystal flicker]

It doesn't matter if they can't beat Emilia gen tho
Unless it's something that actually cancel 2RL comp

[solid flare]

is it not possible to run a 2.5RL siren stun def team?

[crystal flicker]

Siren stun is 3RL

Sure you can, but the stun only matters if it hits P1 B2 2.5RL or P1 B1 3RL

[fiery parcel]

That's not great

[tropic summit]

you can run 2.5RL siren stun against 2RL noah

as 2.5RL will be on B1 when 2RL is on B3, assuming you'll survive whatever gets through as B3 from the enemy

just look at the window noah stays stunned on the vid above

enemy scarlet/trina are bricked here, the whole team would get wiped

that should've been a loss

nono

soda is far more powerful than siren

siren cannot stun p5 noah, soda can stun noah p5

that argument makes no sense, you invest, you get results

you don't invest, you'll keep just hoping you get RNG matchups

nero moran quiry helm rapu is more expensive than getting a soda on 20% atk

still doesn't make sense

right, keep saying that until you meet one that stuns and prevents your entire chain from happening

there's a reason i put it that high on tierlist

[fiery parcel]

Which soda is this? Bsoda or msoda?

[brazen nova]

this is my pvp team rn, what formation i can change to improve them?

[rich quail]

msoda
stun

[tropic summit]

T1 you're bursting with biscuit
T2 too slow, too much feed
T3 too slow, too much feed

[fiery parcel]

Oh. The bad soda?

[brazen nova]

currently im in P8 and trying to get P5 with another person

[rich quail]

not anymore

[fiery parcel]

Yeah i can see why not many develop her

[tropic summit]

it's all about how many archetype can one archetype handle, if scarlet would lose against 2RL noah and 2RL bay, but then becomes win against 2RL noah and may win against 2RL bay, it changes drammatically the amount of archetype it can counter

[brazen nova]

i see, can you help me rebuild?

[tropic summit]

privaty is B3, soda is B1

you can't be serious neko

it's not a gamble if it's 100% guaranteed to stun noise/noah because of taunt in p2

it doesn't matter

2RL scarlet with soda remains 2RL glass cannon

just that it's a direct upgrade instead

from losing against 2RL noah you can then win instead

that's your own personal feeling about it

detach that from what realistically boosts win rate and what you personally think it's a waste

you can't tell me soda is bad because that's wrong

you can tell me you don't feel like investing in soda, now that's fine

as long as you got the message across

be careful of what you assume is bad, especially if you're not familiar with it

it's not a gamble if it's 100%

and i'm correcting you, because it's NOT a gamble

i'm sure you're not single braincelled enough to not understand what we talking about here

who's riled up here? i said i'm sure you're not single braincelled, which means you're not

unless you are saying you are?

[rich quail]

[pastel narwhal]

[rich quail]

Posts deleted again

[tropic summit]

to complete the discussion, this is what a non bricked scarlet on single buff does if noah doesn't cast

hence why you really don't wanna get stunned

[rich quail]

[tropic summit]

le ninja

[pastel narwhal]

[atomic wolf]

@smoky snow don't have to reply this
if you're seeing this make sure to hit top 2 when you have the attempts

i'm doing the same thing, we're gonna chip him off 200 gems per day since he wants to stay at top 2

both of us have the capability to take him down, but it is not necessary
making him loses a minimum of 200 gems per day is our goal, forcing him to pay more and we lose nothing
if he chooses to not retaliate, he lost
if he wants to retaliate, he will also lost from just income alone

[tropic summit]

@spare brook regardless, what you said on whether someone should invest on siren or on soda is correct, because soda is very specifically used for pvp, siren you'll use her for

kraken
tower
UR
SR
possibly campaign (stun)

[atomic wolf]

damn makes me wonder why i just ignore their existence

[tropic summit]

i'm gonna within but as i said you're not stupid, so you def. understood what we meant earlier

[tropic summit]

noise naga cind centi pepper
sbs blanc rh maiden jackal
anchor:IM anis RRH mana siren

why is your mana so invested at synchro 226

quantum on maiden, jackal

wishlist/build: rumani, trina, helm treasured, can consider getting scarlet to 7/4/7 to get a proper nuke team for T1 instead

you shall get only

told you, come up with 5 teams then we can work from there

get cookin'

oh then we can do this

flex soda flex flex flex
flex flex flex flex flex
flex flex flex flex flex
flex flex flex flex flex
flex flex flex flex crow

oh i totally didn't see that coming from previous convo

figured you'd definitely run soda

run a team with just crow

[shell hazel]

what tierlist? 😮

[shell hazel]

I did that once

for rookie def, I wanted to tank my rank some 😛

we need a 5th unit who can stun

[tropic summit]

thingie i did previous CA, useful to get a grasp of what one should aim for in a very broad sense

[shell hazel]

pretty colour scale I like it

[tropic summit]

that was canva anyway...

totally didn't rip off a template

[brazen nova]

yeah i just got Scarlet few days ago
and i love Mana

[shell hazel]

problem is I lack soda :9

I think soda is a fun wildcard to play but I don't have her yet

[tropic summit]

i seem to remember a pretty good cosplay of her

although that cannot be shared here

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/scarlet-scarlet-nikke-nikke-scarlet-bamboo-forest-cute-anime-girl-gif-9902164233283565064

we liked gamba so much we added more gamba

right, if I win this round of CA I'll give you guys... 0 rewards, as that is what CA gives me 😄

[tropic summit]

shiny new frames

[shell hazel]

oh yes ofc 😛

not herself

"you get a stun, and you get a stun, and you get a stun!" 😄

imagine those two teams in mirror stun comps

everyone stunned all the time

mihara kind of anti-stun right? if she gets restrained things get wild?

and the winner is.. draw. both teams do no damage and rapunzel heals them all

privaty fav item when?

[tropic summit]

i need to find that trailer again for research purposes

[shell hazel]

the burst animation one?

be in game soon

I'll have to wait on doing pulls for an hour or two after reset because I'll be busy trying to take over Scandinavia as Norway

[tropic summit]

🍿

🍰

[shell hazel]

yeah they could do with moving the cloth a bit on the gacha one 😦

but it's not bad!

[tropic summit]

pg13 right in front of my cake

[shell hazel]

burst animation looks crazy but problem is I use quick burst mode in game as it's just superior 😄

I wish we could turn on/off burst animations individually

[tropic summit]

why would you want to watch it

do tell us the reasons

[shell hazel]

oh for science

[tropic summit]

i'm sure there's at least 2 big reasons

[shell hazel]

research and stuff

[swift mango]

you are "ahead"

[tropic summit]

🍷

[tropic summit]

reroll dispatch harder

[swift mango]

I was talking about him comparing himself to Echo.

[tropic summit]

indeed, but as f2p that remains a far dream

[keen vapor]

[shell hazel]

just don't be f2p 😦

simples

[swift mango]

"Ahead" shouldn't exist in Echo's book.

[tropic summit]

they've enough money as is

[shell hazel]

small indie company needs all the help you can give

damn just missed the free gift card

[tropic summit]

agreed

-dad, what's the secret to become rich?
-oh honey... just make a pg13 gacha game

haven't spent a single cent on any gacha and nothing will convince me to

[keen vapor]

Ok, so

I'm going to do everything

No more waiting

[keen vapor]

Moran Nero here I go

[tropic summit]

oh shiet

[rich quail]

[tropic summit]

it's like the shy kid in the back of the class who suddenly gets up and says "i had enough"

[keen vapor]

I had enough of my bracket

[rich quail]

You know what to do

Open
CD
cases

ALL
OF
THEM

[woven haven]

I finally unlocked helm treasure, and picked up LM in the last event. Can anyone offer some advice on arena team comps? Thank you

[tropic summit]

unleash the cat

[woven haven]

Okay I can do that! But what about soda??

Haha okay thanks. Idk why I struggle so hard with the pvp meta. I try to follow the discussions but just struggle to make good team comps

[covert lintel]

nero chan, hai, nani ga suki

[tropic summit]

ein blanc rh centi jackal
noah biscuit alice siren rumani
trina naga helmt rrh noir

wishlist/build scarlet, SBS, cindy
raise CP on your lowest CP pvp core units

<@&946725432554836008>

[woven haven]

Phenomenal thank you so much. Are the red line the ones to raise CP for?

[tropic summit]

ye

[woven haven]

I appreciate it. I'll work on that! It's a big change from my last lineup, looking forward to see how it goes!

[tropic summit]

@spare brook i saw it

#pvp-arena message

[keen vapor]

Change the world
My final message
Goodbye

@coarse lake @rich quail @tropic summit @swift mango @umbral crown @fathom rock

[tropic summit]

synchro 421

[swift mango]

Oh, you decided to make a new account after all?

[clear folio]

yoooo top 4!! lessgooo

[keen vapor]

KISAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[shell hazel]

top 4 also 🙂

[clear folio]

are u in my bracket? gzz

[tropic summit]

how close are you to levels with your ch1-ch2-ch3?

[shell hazel]

let's see! 🙂

no I am not

you're NA I'm global

[fiery parcel]

Oh no. I cheered for @swift mango

[shell hazel]

SG team clutched round 1 Railtacer 😄

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit bad news,i forgot to cheer you gotta help me another season

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Happened.

[tropic summit]

this?

[shell hazel]

yes

[tropic summit]

1/1/1 ross too stronk

[fiery parcel]

Rng gonna rng

[keen vapor]

Challenger 3: 21 diff
C2: 43
C1: 20

[shell hazel]

it went as you said

[swift mango]

I forgot to build my Emi team to anti SBS.

[fiery parcel]

Even the winner last season lost

[tropic summit]

oh sounds pretty good

[fathom rock]

[swift mango]

His teams suck anyway.

Hope Borealis won against Chris but I guess Chris would be champ...

Really need to change my username for better luck.

[tropic summit]

i've a suggestion

"CrowBestGirl"

[fiery parcel]

Or I<3Crow

[swift mango]

[fiery parcel]

Shiftyfeetlover?

[swift mango]

To be frank, username only limited to 8 letters. Or my username wouldn't be missing words.

[keen vapor]

What was Nero skill investment again?

[swift mango]

[umbral belfry]

so close to losing frame

surely I don't fail the next 2 cheers

[clear folio]

traitor!

[warm monolith]

I forgot to cheer last one but all my cheers were win,will i still be able to get the frame?

[placid bloom]

no.

[warm monolith]

Dang

[clear folio]

oh nvm u want the lose fraim lol

[umbral belfry]

But I believed in you winning

Yeah LMAO grats

[clear folio]

lmao

[placid bloom]

4/4 losing frame

[glacial lion]

totally forgot about siren stun but still work somehow...

[swift mango]

It's hard to get cheering frame when I had to cheer for myself in CA.

[placid bloom]

Siren stun too RNG, sometimes she dies to counter sometimes she doesn't

[keen vapor]

pog

[lunar pawn]

@oblique ridge you have failed me

[tropic summit]

that's what happens when running SGs against scarlet

[clear folio]

what so u think of my nxt matxh? i think WWL?L, so its scar vs scar decider

[keen vapor]

4 max

[umbral belfry]

Lemme go see gimme a sec

[glacial lion]

her s2 deal more dmg than rh b3...

[ocean vortex]

help

Can anyone help me build a team please?

[lunar pawn]

The one time I don't trust my instincts is the one time I should have

[ocean vortex]

3 team

[lunar pawn]

Next time I'll ping keripo for his analysis

[clear folio]

i think his scar is 3rL with siren vs my 2rl scar isnt it? surely siren dont stun b4 my scar burst

[pale knoll]

Should have asked me smh

[spiral onyx]

About to go sleep (pulled an all nighter for unrelated stuff) but did I win or Zero win?

[lunar pawn]

The fight even went exactly as I thought it would

[spiral onyx]

I had predicted a 3-2 win for him

[lunar pawn]

You won

[ocean vortex]

no one help me

[umbral belfry]

Only rd i see you losing for sure is t3

T4 your scar is 2.5 vs their 3 RL. their siren might stun but you have RH.

T5 your siren will stun rumani. tia will burst but can't get to FB due to stunned rumani

[clear folio]

3 and 5 are my throaway team lol,

[umbral belfry]

Yeah 3 is doomed regardless

[spiral onyx]

My original prediction

• T1: Zero win
• T2: Keripo win
• T3: Zero win
• T4: Keripo win
• T5: Zero win?

Actual:

• T1: Zero win
• T2: Keripo win
• T3: Keripo win
• T4: Keripo win
• T5: Zero win

[fiery parcel]

If you need help for attacking, you need to show the teams you are attacking. If got defending, might to ask a more expert player.

[shell hazel]

I think I'm cooked maybe in last 4 though

I don't think I win match 1 their SG team is actually invested some

I lose 2
win 3
win 4
lose 5
I think

[umbral belfry]

@clear folio So at best I can see W W L W W, at worst W W L L W

[keen vapor]

PVP chefs, help me what to do with Cinderella if I'm using Helm on Moran Nero team

[spiral onyx]

Interesting, T3 is the Cindy comp. I had calculated that Zero's Cindy had enough firepower to 1-shot my SAnis through Moran buff, but guess not?

[keen vapor]

Keripo give me a hint

[spiral onyx]

Easy

Dont use Moran Nero

[keen vapor]

But I invested

[spiral onyx]

thats what the skill reset is for

[keen vapor]

(budget, gladly)

[unique mountain]

Did ambatu win his match

[clear folio]

😮‍💨 gotta wait and see xD

[keen vapor]

It's fine, is no more than a week of mats

[spiral onyx]

Earlier I reset Nero, Bay, and Quiry

[umbral belfry]

Good luck. The real trouble is cup

[spiral onyx]

I dont believe stall meta has a place in CA

[tropic summit]

SBS ein blanc xmaiden jackal (invert SBS with ein depending on who's lower HP between the two, lowest hp goes first)
trina centi cind biscuit RRH
auto

you lack several pvp core units, wishlist/get:

jackal, noah, rumani, helm treasured

Get your teams reviewed then

[keen vapor]

If I qualify for CA I'll need Nero anyways I don't have your limit breaks

[umbral belfry]

That's who I lost to

[tropic summit]

3RL cindy

[clear folio]

yeah lol

[ocean vortex]

thank u so much

[keen vapor]

what about 4RL Blanc Cindy

[lone sequoia]

just use biscuit/rumani/blanc

[umbral belfry]

But regardless of how it goes, top 4 is still pretty good. Good work

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit what you think of my next set? I think I may lose this one
#pvp-arena message
I'm def so bottom, I think it will swing on team 1 again and mine isn't that great ☣️

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

Will it work?

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

[clear folio]

didnt think my main 3 will get this far, and the throaway teams won a few too lol

[tropic summit]

fill the slots with w/e you prefer

you can turn scarlet into indom if you wanna, you could still aim for cindy 2.5RL with CS% on centi and noise

[keen vapor]

Naga why not Anis at that point

Or Bay even

[tropic summit]

if you wanna tank ur CP for speed go for it

[ocean vortex]

my sp team

[tropic summit]

now that you're 421 maybe u can?

[shell hazel]

my team 1 vs their team 1

though if we on def and get that drake killed it's possible

[tropic summit]

T1 too slow
T2 too slow
T3 too slow

[shell hazel]

all teams too slow 😄

[tropic summit]

fill your teams in here and see the speed for yourself, then fix them https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[swift mango]

Time to the champ.

[umbral belfry]

hippo still in

[shell hazel]

still going 🙂

[umbral belfry]

this gif was you after getting screwed in season 1

[tropic summit]

well that siren stun won't matter much at least

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/xenoverse-goku-super-saiyan-angry-dbz-gif-1416275111944307575

[keen vapor]

Siren

Maybe Mana

[shell hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXWouBAtZAo
my last matches if anyone wants to see them, my team 2 got absolutely destroyed blanc SBS indom failed 😄

make sure to watch in 4K

[tropic summit]

siren sure, mana... ehhhhhhhhhh

[rich quail]

waw

You beat me in sync level now

[near plank]

@raven plover wtf youre going win back to back?

[rich quail]

but only 3 levels

[keen vapor]

It's free revive

[tropic summit]

[ocean vortex]

i have no ideal with my sp team just put strongest team

[shell hazel]

burst speed matters

[tropic summit]

that's the problem, get familiar with speed

you can also give this a read:
https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

[shell hazel]

strongest team can lose to better team certainly

the units in the list on nikke deck app are ordered by burst speed

[raven plover]

no since top 64 I already knew whos the winner

[shell hazel]

power level over 9000 (but under 10000) 🙂

[near plank]

[ocean vortex]

can u build me 3 team burst speed for sp, pls?

[raven plover]

I prolly gonna make it to final but not sure

[ocean vortex]

zzz

[tropic summit]

i already did

#pvp-arena message

[near plank]

he doesnt mega invest in pvp like you do, though i do see him askign around in omni chat

[tropic summit]

check your pings

[near plank]

[raven plover]

yea but all max core

my team 1 gonna lose to his scar s2 alone

[near plank]

no cp penalty, so its not that one sided

[ocean vortex]

its only 2 teams

[near plank]

the most important thing is dolls, and he doesnt have them on some units

dolls do insane work cause its sync capped

[tropic summit]

read

[keen vapor]

Fine, Emilia while I use Maiden on Cindy team

[ocean vortex]

oh

[near plank]

he killed my union member, its alliance friendly fire in top 8

[tropic summit]

that works

[ocean vortex]

anyway thank u

[tropic summit]

you still bot and defending?

[shell hazel]

right more detailed view now, with team power and stuff showing as well

yes as I understand it I will be, I'm on right in the ranking bit

[tropic summit]

ye that's def

[shell hazel]

if it changes I'll update in 20 mins but I suspect it will be on def

look at my poor Anis 😄

[raven plover]

bottom win then

ok nvm sg lack invest

[shell hazel]

yeah.... that was my issue with the SG team, though it has won some

[raven plover]

your fate depends on team 1 yea

[shell hazel]

mind you opponent team 1 isn't great either outside of drake treasure, if I kill them in reverse order and get her dead before burst it's doable

[tropic summit]

has your bay team even won 1 match? @shell hazel

[shell hazel]

yes they have 🙂

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

it's beaten an even slower team once or twice

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

essentially it kills even worse comps 😄

[tropic summit]

must be the funzies from the stun i guess

[shell hazel]

tbh though most of my opponents had good teams on team 5 I found

often finding proper enemy teams there not sure my copium 4th team was going to ever do that insanely well vs like scar/jack, noah/cindy etc

[tropic summit]

ye

most CA matches are about avoiding or countering scarlet and noah teams

that or winning with better mirrors, or running strong archetypes that can handle multiple

[shell hazel]

I'd like to improve my blanc/SBS team for next time some

[tropic summit]

anis in p5 is a bit of a poor choice

especially when indom is involved

[shell hazel]

and maybe invest a bit towards SG team eventually though

[tropic summit]

invest ur rosanna first

SGs can be fine on 2-3OL 4/4/4 with R15

[shell hazel]

good shout

[tropic summit]

getting elemental atk on them would be the cherry on the top

surprised you didn't get him to run pepper p1 somewhere

[shell hazel]

the team has gone quite far I'm proud of them

well if we think I may actually win this thing it's off to the finals lol

[tropic summit]

depends a lot on ur SG and p3

p3 is gonna be mirror investiment dependant

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

won't my Noah catch Cindy though?

[tropic summit]

oh ye that's an anis

[shell hazel]

they don't have one

[tropic summit]

nvm just SG matters here

[shell hazel]

yeah I think it's SG team 1 as well

[tropic summit]

opponent is likely 3RL with 1 quantum

[shell hazel]

that will swing it one way or the other, I'll make sure to bulk rosanna out some but not sure how far I can go with current resources

[tropic summit]

but no rosanna to snowball

meanwhile you've piss poor rosanna and can 3RL via sacc

[grand plaza]

@swift mango RRH wiped the floor clean

Told you Quiry was overkill for that comp 🤷‍♂️

There goes my lose streak again

https://i.imgur.com/yIDOl64.mp4

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

siren stun spotted

[tropic summit]

that was a lot of copium stacked in a single team

[grand plaza]

Didn't mattered anyway

[grand plaza]

Yeah..

[placid bloom]

oh I see why, this dude is all 6 ammo so he has to reload

gear issue

literally everyone ran out of ammo after killing first 2

[grand plaza]

Even if they would have infinite ammo that RRH would kill them before they kill her

[placid bloom]

if he had like 2 extra ammo the Rapi dies pretty sure

[grand plaza]

How, it takes 6 ammo to kill Mast?

[placid bloom]

it was 4 ammo to reach full burst

1 volley to kill Mast, 1 volley to kill Siren

[tropic summit]

let's take a step back, both those teams shouldn't even exist

[swift mango]

I don't remember what comp it is.

But yeah, bottom has zero dmg dealers.

[grand plaza]

Full burst just gives more healing here

[coarse lake]

brother straight up ran a pure raid team

[placid bloom]

full burst gives damage too

[coarse lake]

not even an optimal one

[grand plaza]

Fair, that top Helm is not treasure btw

[grand plaza]

Not enough to one shot RRH, thats for sure

[placid bloom]

hmm the Anchor storage kinda fat, but the problem is they're still reloading instead of shooting

[shell hazel]

I'm surprised at how many other people here also put SG team 1, it's most of what I met lately

I may randomise my order next time 😄

[simple flower]

that's 0 Overload all
@_@

[shell hazel]

even stronger copium than me 😄

[grand plaza]

Copium imo 🤷‍♂️

[placid bloom]

well yeah nobody is rolling for ammo and ele dmg on supports

like it's a winnable fight in theory but nobody gonna invest to make that team win

[grand plaza]

Well, we will try again for all lose next time I guess

[grand plaza]

I agree that its a nice cook, except Quiry. Its overkill and they need damage.

Or idk, maybe it would still work if Biscuit passive would work

[vale fossil]

@spiral onyx
Went exactly as we predicted. It was a good fight.

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel @swift mango what did i just watch

[tropic summit]

bro is on 6RL

🍿

[grand plaza]

Slow burst for the win

[simple flower]

the Moran tho

[swift mango]

Common 4 RL Cindy win

[tropic summit]

count again, that's 6RL even

[swift mango]

This looks 5rl vs 3rl though

[swift mango]

Yeah

[tropic summit]

the stars aligned for this guy

[pastel owl]

sbs do no damage

[swift mango]

Only Cindy vs Noah team that doesn't wipe

[shell hazel]

that was a fun watch 😄

[tropic summit]

late burst expects you live to burst, in this case moran vs sbs was very fortunate

let alone cindy was 1 proc away from death so also questionable on investiment

sometimes you get these kind of weird matchups that really make you question building anything at all

[swift mango]

The point is his SBS probably suck

[tropic summit]

that's a bit likely

[shell hazel]

maybe I get lucky on pulls later and perhaps a wild Rumani appears?

[lusty pelican]

dam @hollow eagle u did it again ❤️ no homo btw can i ask for this too..? 🙏

[tropic summit]

good thing you said no homo, now we know you don't do each others in bed

[lusty pelican]

yea just to clarify uknow

btw u can share your speedrun predictions too man

[shell hazel]

the crowd is not in my favour, but it will be funny if they all lose 😛

[tropic summit]

maybe they saw your SG team invest and somehow found out your rosanna 171/1

my spending, others can spend and finance nikke instead

[shell hazel]

maybe it's like buffer overflow and 1/1/1 makes her stronger?

[shell hazel]

inject the copium

[loud sonnet]

[tropic summit]

ye, sheep power is strong in betting

[shell hazel]

but I will say it's not like their team 1 is massively strong either 🙂

[tropic summit]

might for mirror matches

but definitely not game breaking in most cases

[shell hazel]

I'll cheer for myself anyway even if I lose it

[tropic summit]

i mean you're likely to win

[shell hazel]

unlikely to win

[lunar pawn]

Same, a MA gaslit me

[loud sonnet]

I didn't notice that jack wasn't there

[lunar pawn]

[coarse lake]

[tropic summit]

[coarse lake]

imagine running jackal-less scar comp, turn 2 guarantee wins into a 50/50 based on side rng

[hollow eagle]

**fix: Team 2 right side win

[tropic summit]

T2 is moran and nero direct counter tho

[lusty pelican]

sankyu beri much always 🙏

[hollow eagle]

Oh my bad didnt know how effective that was

[grand plaza]

Siren guaranteed to stun p1 even if they 2RL right?

[lusty pelican]

left right?

[tropic summit]

p1 is stunned on 2RL but on B2 timing, not B1

[hollow eagle]

Fix, team 2 right win, so it's 50/50 depend on team 1

[lusty pelican]

alrightyy thankss

[tropic summit]

ye that team 1 is gonna be about CS%, ross investiment and maybe crit

oh but def team seems to have slight advantage

xanne may die slightly pre burst

p5 into p3 (ross decoy)

def SGs will be shooting xanne on 2RL-ish

then again for both sides it's still RNG

[hollow eagle]

hmm any chance that Blanc indom into RH in team 2?

[tropic summit]

s.anis rh and jackal should be linked

if for w/e reason they've given RH less hp than s.anis, then sure could

[hollow eagle]

@lusty pelican if you can record kent's team 2 performance on previous matches it'd be great

[grand plaza]

Who do you think would win this?

From what I can see either Scarlet kills SBS and wins, or can't kill and loses

[tropic summit]

left wins, default case of 2RL vs 3RL

[lusty pelican]

https://streamable.com/03ra1d
okk here it is hrrng

[grand plaza]

Considering that Scarlet doesn't even have SR doll, can she kill right's SBS tho?

[tropic summit]

doll isn't mandatory for wipe

skill lvl are

if that scarlet is 4/4/7 with double buff it should be still enough

[hollow eagle]

SAnis got indom

so ig, it's really is 50/50 on team 1

[lusty pelican]

alrighty thankss for the tipss

[hollow eagle]

I cast my dice onto the left guy

[lusty pelican]

okii

win or lose its ok cuz i forgot to vote on day 2 lol rip my gold frame

cheer i mean

[leaden canyon]

@swift mango all your predictions were right, I only lost round 5. Also my siren stunned his p2 noah

[grand plaza]

I understand, l guess its more likely thing to happen here

[placid bloom]

has Siren been living to stun 2RL Scarlet in CA or is she dying to counter first

[grand plaza]

#pvp-arena message

[placid bloom]

that has nothing to do with it

I'm asking if she has been dying to Scarlet s2 before 50th shot or not

[grand plaza]

Oh ok, I guess if everyone is MG

[shell hazel]

oi that's my match 😄

#pvp-arena message

we already analysed it here and figure this is likely to come down to how match 1 goes

I'm Tav on this one

[grand plaza]

That was my guesses

Same but opposite

[shell hazel]

yep, crowd is voting negative but it's very much in the air on team 1 perf, as Rail mentioned, my Rosanna is basically like a child with a toy machine gun (1/1/1 no OL) 😄

I'd be more sure it loses but the opponent team is also fairly low invest

if I eat through Poli / Drake on def as it targets P5 I have a shot(gun) at it

[grand plaza]

Oh I was hoping that Rosanna would take 2