pvp-arena

[swift mango]

[simple flower]

I think both Nero teams lose

maybe not for Kent

[unique mountain]

Bet on bettor pics

[swift mango]

If it's @worthy knoll Nero they probably win both.

[final wedge]

i don get how ppl can utilize nero

Nero team is one im lacking experience right now

[swift mango]

You need Moran max skill 3, Nero doll lv10 s1lv10, Rapu max doll and another healer.

[final wedge]

Nero team cant go anti AOE burst.....and dat is somehow hard for me to craft

[swift mango]

Max doll Rapu + Nero (skill 1 on Rapu) +Moran s3 is anti AoE.

Your Rapu only need to survive and you win the 2nd burst.

[final wedge]

Moran is also ded with mass AOE

[swift mango]

Moran can die so long as Rapu+ Nero(100% dmg reduction) survive.

[final wedge]

Nero can go 100dmg reduce??????????

[swift mango]

Ofc team need to be fast enough so Moran burst before the wipe happened.

[final wedge]

dem....

[swift mango]

Yes, 100% dmg reduction

After Moran burst

[final wedge]

ah icic....

so dats how to survive the AOE

but...goddamn....dat gonna need massive RL boost for the team to work

[green summit]

any ideas on this?

[swift mango]

10 sec Nero being Senator Armstrong... So long as the enemy don't use Blanc

[crystal flicker]

W/L
L/W
L/W
W/L
L/W (Unless Rosa Nuke Grave) I can't see the CP

[umbral crown]

ken nero might lose

[final wedge]

oh yea....so it did countered by blanc...lol i forgot blanc burst effect

[umbral crown]

but also other nero, they bursting with helm but noah cancels lifesteal

[crystal flicker]

Imagine have Rapun

[umbral crown]

to kill a nero team without fail you need Blanc and RH, if not the chances are low

[final wedge]

i guess it is possible to make it 2RL

but the sacrifice tho

[umbral crown]

but not enough sustain

[swift mango]

Or just 4 Ele line ReiT

[umbral crown]

could be an option but still you need blanc and RH bursting and buffing your dps

you need a way to counter moran damage reduction

[swift mango]

You won't need RH buff on ReiT

[umbral crown]

[final wedge]

hmm this is hard to pick....
Nero is basically the key DPS playing counter leaving whole team possibly ded when enemy deal AOE.....while Bay is preventing the AOE, makin ur DPS deal the dmg.....

i think ill pick Bay for now....seems the cheaper than Nero....gonna play around with Bay 1st before moving to Nero

[umbral crown]

bay is cheap because nero team needs high investment in dolls, skills and more stuff to work properly

and needs helm and rapu to get her stacks before bursting

[dire root]

This may be the first time I have seen Cindy P1 using biscuit to buffer.

[umbral belfry]

oopsie my bad

unlikely for that rosa to nuke imo

[crystal flicker]

yeh right then

[umbral belfry]

ty! time to vote left bc I want losing frame

[umbral belfry]

a better question is where is your b1

[dire root]

This team isn't a burst team

it is meant to deficit crush

and it does very often

[umbral belfry]

at your sync level you're correct, but once you level up/everyone else levels that won't fly

always always have insurance even if it's a sure win

[dire root]

I was behind wall for months, I just broke it on this account when 2.5 hit

[umbral belfry]

Congrats

[dire root]

I need to use scarlet to crack that Cindy team.

[swift mango]

Or just SG Nero down before any heal or buff.

[umbral belfry]

I'm not sure if you reach the 15% deficit vs that team, best to play it safe

[umbral crown]

not that easy, will depend always positions and even if nero P1, her S2 give her 60% hp buff which makes her really tanky

[crystal flicker]

Leaning towards left imo
L/W
W/L
L/W (left is 98% at 2RL, but no feed)
W/L
W/L (Idk tbh if ScarBS has enough dmg to bypass all that)

[umbral belfry]

but

[swift mango]

Not gonna survive 5 shotgun in 2rl.

I saw that lose before.

[umbral belfry]

they're just barely over the deficit

[umbral crown]

my attackers with max doll survived 1 RL against 4 SGs

and nero as a tank can sure survive getting heals from rapu and helm

[swift mango]

Not enough investment SG. but that's only 1rl

[umbral crown]

tanks have more defense and hp so they can tank more

[quick lake]

weak SG

[dire root]

Welp time to teach him why you don't put Cindy in the P1 slot.

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

not my fault

[swift mango]

Yeah they can tank more but Treasure Viper and Drake hit hard... End game Solo raid player has those easily maxed.

[umbral crown]

trust me, not many people have viper

drake yeah but most do nt like viper

[crystal flicker]

TViper is good?

[swift mango]

Solo raid main 1st year players have her lots.

[crystal flicker]

I might get her if so

[green summit]

thanks I'll bet left then

[dire root]

[umbral crown]

they mostly do not care for pvp so they not gonna try for it. its just 1 team and the rest of their team gonna be wack

[swift mango]

We won't see much strong SG teams at our level.

[umbral crown]

just the people in top 200 and maybe 1%

[dire root]

Taking the rank back in 2 seconds is funny

[umbral crown]

and we will never match with them

[crystal flicker]

Watch SU messin with PvP

[umbral crown]

[unique mountain]

Rosy chan

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-10769407

[unique mountain]

Nani ga suki

[umbral crown]

kore wa de su ne

[dire root]

Does rookie give rankig frame points for taking 1st place?

[umbral crown]

no frames from rookie

that i know

[unique mountain]

No frames for spa either

[umbral crown]

just CA which we are fighting

[coarse solstice]

Ranking is just tower, CP, hard mode story

[umbral crown]

and units development

[coarse solstice]

Right CP**

[umbral crown]

give cp

[placid bloom]

or just spend enough money to C7 everyone and be 100 sync higher

and unlock every sync slot

put your Rs in to inflate score

[umbral crown]

even 80 levels is enough

[coarse solstice]

I did that before I had enough SSRs...

Early jumped on my server to claim free points

Really Rookie doesn't give much it would be cool to have rookie frames 🤔🤔

[quick lake]

I dont want to be gemmed in rookie

[umbral crown]

80 levels and just be happy

i would need 381 boost to be in range again

[coarse solstice]

Holy sh..t

[quick lake]

Whales be whalin’

[umbral crown]

but by the time i get 381 he will be 461 probably

unless i talk with wallet kun there s not way

[coarse solstice]

Ffs... Not looking forward to that in SP Arena

[swift mango]

Time mald campaign again

Delayed it few days already

[umbral crown]

if you give me 441 boost right now i could probably have 3 teams with 900k+

or maybe 1m each one

[coarse solstice]

I'm hoping daily logins and hitting up the outpost a few times a day will be enough to stay close

[umbral crown]

just auto and hope for the best

[swift mango]

We had whale win 1300k team at synch 400 before lol... Too bad they lost

[placid bloom]

CUP is already 160 sync higher than me

and only started like 1 month earlier maybe

[dire root]

Round 1 is funny, both teams are so slow.

[umbral crown]

i will sit on MW till i gap the cp x2

[coarse solstice]

He's a mad man ❤️

[swift mango]

First CA was wild

[umbral crown]

[placid bloom]

I don't think it's possible to shuffle into the same SPA group though, there's usually a split of about a week or two where you can't get shuffled together

at least until the player count diminishes

[umbral crown]

i want to be shuffle into one fo the brackets the bois i fought are

[coarse solstice]

I think it's like a 10 to 20 server number range

[umbral crown]

my current one is too ded

[umbral crown]

yeah

[swift mango]

Anyone heard news from Keripo these days? Did he win or unlucky and stopped soon?

[placid bloom]

he is facing Don tomorrow morning I think

[dire root]

Does the Cindy P2 splash win bottom the round you think?

[umbral crown]

he is winning as always

[raven plover]

he gonna win next round he said, he posted it here

[umbral crown]

he cooked better teams

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Another doro gone.

[coarse solstice]

Actual insanity is gonna single handedly make Polli meta

[umbral crown]

now its a Queen vs a Hero

[swift mango]

That's Moron vs Idiot.

[umbral crown]

but power ups

[umbral crown]

the fight gonna be interesting

[dire root]

Thoughts?

[umbral crown]

nero team vs scar trina rh drake jackal

[umbral belfry]

Dan heng spotted

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Probably your Nero could survive with your investment.

[umbral crown]

thats what im hoping

if they do not crit, they are done

if his trina not well invested in skills, im gonna survive

[coarse solstice]

Maybe bottom wins, T1 is weird

[dire root]

Yeah it is super weird I thought the Cindy extra burst gen would let Ein burst first and wipe before Cindy could.

[umbral belfry]

oh that's the cheer i have

I think right wins overall

but both of their t1 is

[dire root]

Such a waste of Cindy.

[coarse solstice]

Is right top or bottom?

[umbral crown]

i wanna trust i can win

[dire root]

Right is bottom which is FRGFF

[umbral belfry]

right is t1 ein team. but cindy team should win that fight in specific

but overall it's frgff

[dire root]

I thought round 1 was the tie breaker guess not.

[coarse solstice]

Right will be LWWLW

[umbral belfry]

honestly both teams are so wack but siren stunning helps a lotm

[coarse solstice]

My thoughts to

[swift mango]

trust

[umbral belfry]

and they have no protection against cindy even if they get through noise. if noise dies siren can burst

[dire root]

Oh right, that damn stun screwed me once, the fact it stops the nikke from bursting is so bad

[umbral crown]

always

[loud sonnet]

Thrust

[coarse solstice]

Hime that copy cat didn't have my team 💯 matched. T2 was missing Bay ... I have a pretty good chance that being the case

[dire root]

Oh right I was wrong here, noah is a B2 so would burst before a B3, for some reason I thought both noah and helm would burst at same time.

[umbral crown]

imagine something like this happens there

[dire root]

10 fps smooth gameplay

[umbral belfry]

missing the key component to that team

[umbral belfry]

it wouldn't matter either way, bc noah would have immune up to eat helm's nuke and taunt

[umbral crown]

[dire root]

I wasn't sure if noah had a slight delay or not to immunity so helm may have had a window.

[umbral belfry]

Even if there is a delay, noah would burst first regardless due to being b2 over helm's b3

[dire root]

Yeah like I said I was thinking of them as both being B3s for some reason

[coarse solstice]

Even if HelmT is 2.5 RL I think Noah counters

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

needs to be 2 to be able to land it

[quick lake]

[dire root]

Also can't rocket launchers miss? It would be funny if noah missing lost the round

[umbral belfry]

Losing bc whiff

[keen vapor]

Not anymore (unless unit is recharging)

[swift mango]

ded whiff

[coarse solstice]

What changed?

[dire root]

Going against majoirty again.

[keen vapor]

SU's coding

[dire root]

Which is fine because they are just clicking the higher level

[coarse solstice]

Fair enough

[swift mango]

Ofc Metatron would win agaisnt a frog.

[umbral belfry]

SBS wins

[coarse solstice]

Honestly I hope metatron loses, justice for my boy ENT. RIP

[umbral belfry]

I too hope he loses bc if he wins then my losing frame path is ruined

[coarse solstice]

ENT helps me test. Actual Chad hard to find cool people in SP willing to work on stuff

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-millhouse-alone-solo-no-friends-gif-4242683

Posted my discord UN for a while but only Cup reached out. ENT had his posted which gave me the idea.

[dire root]

I need to make up for credit loss from last season.

[coarse solstice]

Did you get the silver frame at least?

[dire root]

Nope last season was horrible for me, making horrible bets, missing first cheer, not knowing defict was gone. Giving into peer pressure.

[golden bane]

Could you advise me 3 teams for pvp, these are my nikkes, I would really appreciate it.

[coarse solstice]

Auto for third team?

[quick lake]

Scar Asuka Trina Noir Jackal
Centi Anis Cindy THelm Noise
Blanc Biscuit SBS RH Rumani

[scenic hatch]

That sounds like I will win a lot by 2-3. You always 5-0 others so obviously it’s my victory

[umbral crown]

Happens

[lusty pelican]

hi doods can i ask this?

[scenic hatch]

Don is a pve player who invested all his rocks into pve units and just got cursed and bullied by his sub lead for using 6 rocks to OL Trina Noah and Jackal’s chest and helmet not even the other 2 pcs

[placid bloom]

it's okay

[lusty pelican]

hi @glacial lion may i ask this?

[scenic hatch]

Bet on Keripo if you need gold betting god frame

[golden bane]

+100 bond level 😏

[placid bloom]

rather be 250 sync higher than everyone than be an arena champion

[coarse solstice]

But the frame is shiney 🙃

[placid bloom]

it doesn't flash until you get your second champion win

or sparkle rather

are you the only reigning champ that hasn't been knocked out yet

I haven't checked the higher leagues

[coarse solstice]

Im halfway there ❤️🙂‍↕️, I have no idea

[fiery parcel]

I should probably not spend 100 gems to try increase my rank.... righhhht?

[placid bloom]

but I know a few have been knocked out already

[coarse solstice]

That tracks they have the most eyes on their teams

[placid bloom]

you are 2k behind rank 1? That is kinda a lot, means that you were holding lower rank for a while

nvm only 1.5k

we're 6 days into the season I think?

so that means you were down ~250 points a day

[coarse solstice]

Should be enough time

[placid bloom]

so -10 per hour

so you probably held rank 3-4

seems doable to maintain rank without gemming

unless that SYND guy is the real rank 1 and just hasn't collected yet

[fiery parcel]

He's there most of the time

[fiery parcel]

At rank 1 in placing

[spiral onyx]

Just been busy with work and stuff, will record and upload the matches later tonight. But I 5-0'd the current matchup against Pengest and tomorrow will be up against @scenic hatch where I predict a 3-2 or 4-1.

Stupid Don ruining my dream of a perfect score

[lusty pelican]

hii @hollow eagle may i ask this..? 🙏

[hollow eagle]

I'd vote for tech

[lusty pelican]

alright thanks mang 💦

[swift mango]

Wished this was my Scarlet who got this luck but Trina instead.

[crystal flicker]

#questions message
Got this earlier today

[swift mango]

It's good, now reroll line 1...

[crystal flicker]

Hit Rate useful in PvE tho

[swift mango]

Just reroll for Crit or Ammo, more useful

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet can't get 100% core hit in PvE, so hit rate actually needed

[swift mango]

Ammo is more needed. And a Crit is basically core hit anyway.

[scenic hatch]

[swift mango]

Wish I could trade my 100 failed rocks or your 1 piece

[crystal flicker]

How good is Viper for PvP

I know shes SG

[swift mango]

She is just for SG comp. That's it.

[crystal flicker]

Are you sure you spending 100 for 100 rolls

[swift mango]

So I should be luckier if I yolo and never lock.

[crystal flicker]

The only line worth locking is L3 tho

[swift mango]

[crystal flicker]

maybe black L2

Unless you already get a good 3rd line

[wise horizon]

This looks ok? T3 looks like it won’t get to burst at all. T2 is going to be 4RL but my T2 is going to be 3RL so I will burst first. Safe to attack?

[crystal flicker]

Siren Plays Nikke

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[fiery parcel]

Any chance to buff up my def team?

Just dropped a rank

[crystal flicker]

It's rookie

[swift mango]

I figured the chance to get 3rd line locking 1-2 should be somewhere around 5% for me after wasting around 300 rocks for that. Fake rate is fake

[fiery parcel]

Yeah. But another player just found out how to beat me lol

Usually I'm at rank 2

[crystal flicker]

Have you ever tried The God Comp

[fiery parcel]

N3ver heard of it

Please enlighten me

[hushed kelp]

Anyone able to confirm how quickly Siren stuns in CA?

[crystal flicker]

#pvp-arena message

B4 3.32RL

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/NnOi4oEPYZU

[crystal flicker]

128K gems

[crystal flicker]

Actually no, I just saw someone beat that comp with HelmT

[keen vapor]

WE LOST THE NERVOUS RURU STICKER

At least we have Doros now

A soul for a soul

[sterile sapphire]

[solid flare]

does siren factor into sp arena ?

[keen vapor]

Sometimes

[final wedge]

I swear if u win this season...ill put more trust into this formation @spiral onyx

so similar in strat...i shdve stay with same strat

[crystal flicker]

In slow comp yes

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

3/5 teams auto lose to siren, is fine.

[crystal flicker]

Should I run 2RL Jackaless Scarlet, and move Jackal to ScarBS comp

[solid flare]

what does her defence team look like

[keen vapor]

Blood, I copied C3 defense I wonder if they'll dare to snipe him if they can defeat me

[final wedge]

Keripo has slight improved ver than mine...but the general idea is the same ....i didnt trust myself enuf to use same idea as my own S1....

[keen vapor]

Defense? we use her to counter P1

[swift mango]

Copy C1 def, surely they win beat C1 instead.

[keen vapor]

I don't know his defense

[final wedge]

im playin with dumb formation...boosting 1 team win chance....but sacrificing 2 teams to be more vunerable to 2 types of team

[swift mango]

Mean, both your teams.

I also have 2 team auto lose to siren.

That's because I lazy to rebuild

[final wedge]

shuldve just improve each team in covering their weakness each

[swift mango]

But 3 is just playing low chance gacha.

[keen vapor]

My Rosanna lines still suck btw

[swift mango]

My lines still suck btw

[crystal flicker]

btw

[keen vapor]

narohodo

[swift mango]

Way.

[dire root]

I spent 20 rocks on Rapi's chestplate and didn't get 2 good lines.

[final wedge]

Siren, despite 3RL, i always consider it now...especially if im fighting against it where i am using 3 RL as well...this Siren is kinda game changing

I will count where my P1 will get stunned...and what will i do to ensure my full burst

[crystal flicker]

Does MiharaOS has potential for PvP?

[keen vapor]

F2P

[swift mango]

Way

[grand plaza]

Doesn't look like it

[final wedge]

plz win all da way

[keen vapor]

Unless you sac her

[swift mango]

I don't see it. If you used her it mean sacc and you sacrifice a fast burst team.

[spiral onyx]

CA right now is 33% team comp, 33% investments, 33% matchup RNG luck, and 1% ||deez nuts||

[final wedge]

ya know....i was thinkin....maybe 1 Siren 4 MG in PVP works....turns out its just pepega

[crystal flicker]

It's kinda hard to sacc her tho

You want low invest unit for Sacc, but she wants atk lines to cook DoT

[keen vapor]

How to fast burst if i make Moran Bay Helm team and loses easily to everything

[grand plaza]

What does sacc means

[spiral onyx]

Sacrificing your own P1 unit
Sacrificing their P1/P5 unit:

[keen vapor]

That

[final wedge]

Sol made it possible....his Helm somehow burst very lucky in this season

[spiral onyx]

Also I'm not happy with my S2 teams still

[crystal flicker]

It'd be great if we have Nikke that make use of enemy's death

[final wedge]

yea tbh....i look at urs since it has similar strat and i made my own improvement as well

[keen vapor]

Shinigami

[spiral onyx]

My T1 (Blanc Scalter) is just too fragile and investment dependent. Need a new meta unit to build a new team around

[swift mango]

Product 23 is good sacc because she at least provide some burst gen... If used Mihara will need switch up team...

Also she is sacc but Rossanna is fast burst team with zero resistance so it's either win when you burst or just lose...

Meaning she must be sacc in a team that could stall... Meaning either wall team or Rossanna+Blanc which waste clip RL on Rossana team.... Again defeat the purpose...

Idk, I will see if I could use her in wall teams...

[crystal flicker]

Somethinglike burst gauge +10% everytime enemy's Nikke killed

[final wedge]

and ur SBS blanc team also using 2.5 RL....dat will open up +1 lose matchup against mirror SBS blanc with 3RL

[grand plaza]

What does sacc mean

[crystal flicker]

Sacrifice

[final wedge]

altho ur Siren has increase ur blanc sbs win rate....the fact it is 2.5 RL kinda bugs me

[swift mango]

Sacrifice or existing to die.

[spiral onyx]

Sacc ||deez nuts in yo mouth||

[swift mango]

[spiral onyx]

Rosanna allows 3RL SG teams to become 2RL

Rosanna also hits very very hard

[final wedge]

its roughly -1 RL right?

[spiral onyx]

If invested

[crystal flicker]

Roughly

[spiral onyx]

I posted a few clips yesterday of my Rosanna double 1 shotting with her burst

[final wedge]

i saw some1 in my bracket using SRAnis to sacc...problem is....its invested SRAnis

[spiral onyx]

Instantly turns a 4v5 to a 2v5

[keen vapor]

This is nonsense how on earth I'll stack that 10 times

[spiral onyx]

Two different effects

[final wedge]

maybe one day it will count enemy dat died as well

[spiral onyx]

Read it like that

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Something Rapu+Mana on both team and Makima in the opposite team.

Add xAnne for good measure

[spiral onyx]

Is there any B1 other than Noise that gives +max HP? I recall there being one but I forgot which

[swift mango]

Rouge

[final wedge]

Frima....1 full charge = instant increase max HP

ive tried once....ONCE...cuz i was coping for true dmg team in both PVP and PVE.....and more fkn pepega in PVP than its PVE counterpart

Frima + Flora.....Frima chargeshot trigger Flora true dmg buff.....then....I forgot Laplace need to have 5 stacks to have her tru dmg buff

[swift mango]

To be frank Frima isn't really better than Rouge for Arena.

[final wedge]

in the end.....i was wasking myself...."why this Laplace need to have 5 stacks?!! who design dis shet !!"

[crystal flicker]

Ein

I just realized this Rapu is so ass

Whos the hardest AoE Nuke in the game (w/o buff)?

[final wedge]

even when one day B2 40s CDR true dmg buffer is out....im not building dat team anymore....the manual play is very silly

[final wedge]

id say Emi?

[crystal flicker]

I'm Emililess

[final wedge]

i mean...she charge liek 3sec....surely it means the hardest right?

[swift mango]

Rapu is more needed for CA than RH now that Siren exist.

[crystal flicker]

Why don't they rerun Re:0 instead of Eva

[swift mango]

Why don't they do CSM movie Collab?

[final wedge]

3RL Siren vs 3RL Rapu....I wonder who will move or stun 1st....

[crystal flicker]

Let's be real, CSM collab is ass

[swift mango]

CSM movie Collab.

[fiery parcel]

Theynshould do gungale online collab

[crystal flicker]

SAO collab

[swift mango]

This September, trust.

[final wedge]

SAO still a thing now?

[keen vapor]

Imagine making more characters playable/alts

[swift mango]

Dual sword gamer in MMO, where are you?

[rich fiber]

A GunGale Online version of SAO collab would suit Nikke

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Nikke probably never Collab with a gacha game.

[final wedge]

i mean.....i dont see the anime still a thing now....or maybe its just me

[keen vapor]

GGO Second season was very recent

[final wedge]

oh icic

[swift mango]

When you see and dual sword dude in game setting, you remember Kirito.

[keen vapor]

It wasn't any special or anything

Kirito playable?

[crystal flicker]

Easy formula for success collab is:

• The anime is Airing when collab
• It's new and top anime
• It has waifu

[final wedge]

sorry man....i think im too cultured when picking anime or games....when i see a dude, prolly my finger goes to skip button

[rich fiber]

Didn't Kirito cross dress or use a female avatar at one point I can't remember

[swift mango]

Wow exactly this one.

[final wedge]

Stellar Blade collab better have a good PVP unit tho.....im planning to C7 it if it has

[keen vapor]

Same season he entered gun game

[keen vapor]

Stellar blade Collab will have more than one unit tho?

Maybe not

[hushed kelp]

Oof so all this work trying to build siren into 2RL scar not really worth

Wouldnt help against 2RL noah team

[final wedge]

there shud ve Eve SSR, Tachy SSR and Lily prolly SR

[keen vapor]

I really don't know anything about it

[final wedge]

hardly think they will go 3 SSR like eva....

[rich fiber]

Bayonetta Collab 🙂

[keen vapor]

Unless they cook

[keen vapor]

That will work.... Really well

[final wedge]

• wanna burn our stocks before 3rd anniv

[keen vapor]

Why no one thought this before? why do we even have Resident evil as an option

[crystal flicker]

There's 9 anime with more "favourites" than CSM

Jigoraku is peak tho

[swift mango]

But nothing in the exact timing.

[rich fiber]

Hmmm ArkKnights Collab, Exusai 🙂

[keen vapor]

Competition

[swift mango]

They won't collab with another gacha so you could dream.

[rich fiber]

Both games are different genres and well established. I don't think they poach each others users that much if at all.

[keen vapor]

Both games are on the hunt for whales

[swift mango]

Especially the Bochu Jutsu.

[keen vapor]

@swift mango btw, has commcord done giveaway for the rerun skins or something?

[swift mango]

I'm not on that discord so idk

[keen vapor]

You were

[swift mango]

Only lurking

[keen vapor]

Nikke community

[swift mango]

I lurk and comment sometime doesn't mean I'm there.

[keen vapor]

How does that work

[swift mango]

If you see my comments there you should notice I was beginner rank.

I had few comments on GG and Prydwen discord as well but it doesn't mean anything. Not like I lurking at them often.

[swift mango]

Unless Nikke could sign a one way Collab with Arknight and willing to pay them money for the contract instead of mutual Collab.

Arknight did one way Collab with another gacha before but ofc Arknight player got nothing.

Arknight is seriously a rich franchise with strong world building and lots of iconic characters to explore for Collab.

Amongst the gacha Arknight should be one of those with the richest lore....

But the game is pretty niche not many people could get on.

[crystal flicker]

Nikke x Fate

Grand Order

[swift mango]

I would love Nikke x Reverse 1999...

The player base is pretty different... One is mainly male player , one is mainly Female players even though both waifu game.

[crystal flicker]

I'd prefer Nikke x AL

It's peak waifu game

[swift mango]

They are about main competitors to each others, Nikke copied half of Azur in the process of creating. I doubt any collab possible lol

[crystal flicker]

Which part they copy

Though if we're talking about background, Nikke x GFL is more reasonable

[swift mango]

Higher rate gacha with more free pull. Pilgrim vs META fraction.

Alien invader with a commander commanding non human waifu.

Snow white is basically Enterspite META. They lower her importance after early arc though but many characters had similar model to Azur... (not saying much because AZ has 600+ character lol.)

The rehab system was copied the PR ship but made it worse then also phased out.

[crystal flicker]

I want to see Nikke x Konosuba
I can even see Megumin's burst animation

[crystal flicker]

Nah, that just generic gacha

[keen vapor]

Aegis squad

[crystal flicker]

Sure they took inspiration from many established gacha games, AL one of them

[swift mango]

4% is higher than standard and the 200 pity also copied from Azur lane. But Azur lane is much more generous.

[crystal flicker]

but it's normal in business perspective

[crystal flicker]

Agreed

[swift mango]

They copied half of Azur Lane in early development is what I meant.

[crystal flicker]

No sweat to get UR in AL, where in Nikke you need to plan your savings

[swift mango]

but much more greedy

[crystal flicker]

We can buy skins using free gems in AL

[fiery parcel]

Youbalready have vesti costume

[swift mango]

Free gem in AL is hard to come by. And Skin in Azur lane are much higher standard than here.

[keen vapor]

We get 2 free skins a year

[swift mango]

They copied the part they thing could get more players but exclude the part they think too generous or high effort that it doesn't make much money.

[crystal flicker]

Vesti isn't chanting for the whole day and end it with EXPURUSIONNNN

[fiery parcel]

That's the closest i think we will get to konosuba

[crystal flicker]

It's obtainable via comission, though the chances are low

[fiery parcel]

I would mind frieren tho

Fern is MG sniper

[crystal flicker]

Marriage System

[fiery parcel]

Frieren is full screen RL

Ubel would be AR like scarlet

[crystal flicker]

If any, Fern must be clip RL coz she can cast spell instantly

Frieren will be SR with Nuke damage

[swift mango]

No gacha in existence has the skin game as high standard as Azur Lane. Interaction and other things are top notch but it's their main selling point.

Nikke make use of Ranking, sunk cost palacy to keep player rather than being generous and schedule free like Azur lane.

[fiery parcel]

How does azur lane play?

What sort of game is it?

[swift mango]

That in turn make more money but they also need to spent more focus on balance the game

[swift mango]

It's a bullet hell kind of game but you could also auto everything with meta units. The challenge stage needs you to be good though but you don't need to play them

[fiery parcel]

I read it's a sidescroller shootemup

[crystal flicker]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hololive

[fiery parcel]

Uh im bad. Last sodescroller shmup i played is rtype

[crystal flicker]

AL is waifu collector, the gameplay just side feature for me

[fiery parcel]

If platofrm shmup it's supee contra

[crystal flicker]

I like AK too

[swift mango]

Nikke is also waifu collector, everything else are just side attractions,

[crystal flicker]

AK BGM is banger

[swift mango]

I won't start this game if not for its 2 collab a year.

[wise horizon]

is it best i slow my T2 (3RL) down otherwise i am just hitting nothing against a Noah team (4RL)?

[swift mango]

How are you playing Arknight though? Got Lappy Alter?

[crystal flicker]

The biggest issue with Nikke collab is

[crystal flicker]

I stopped around CC10 iirc

[swift mango]

[crystal flicker]

Thinking about coming back, but I'm so lazy lmao

[swift mango]

I started CC9.;We are about 1 generation player apart.

[crystal flicker]

I started AK CC3

I still listen their musics though

[swift mango]

Well, understandable, I picked Arknight when I downloaded both this app and Arknight 2+ years ago.

You should have started this game and quit AK.

[crystal flicker]

wdym

[swift mango]

This game started around CC#9 of AK.. You could have started this game then and decided to quit AK for this game.

[crystal flicker]

I don't remember honestly lmao

[swift mango]

Well, I missed out on Makima but got me Dungeon Meshi characters in AK so it was condolences pride...

[crystal flicker]

I think I did redownload and left shortly in 2023

AL x Holo is 2022, so possibly I left AK for AL, then download Nikke

[swift mango]

I have played AL since it first major event of the Crane sister. Never quitted.

My guild is as old as the server itself.

Super casual though

My 2nd friend added was actually Akashi... That player is still playing... The first user with Akashi nickname of the server... Ofc impersonating Akashi I guess, keep talking like her....

My guild is Aurora guild of Avrora server lol.... Blatantly stealing its name.

[crystal flicker]

Oh

I play in Amagi

kinda miss the game tbh

[swift mango]

Avrora is like the oldest Server haha. There were 4 servers when I started with Sandy being newest I think.

[crystal flicker]

I heard they making PC client

or is that AK and BA only

[swift mango]

My first account was on Sandy but got nothing in first 10 pulls so I came to Avrora for another account and got Belfast on the 2nd pull.

[swift mango]

I don't think I heard about PC client for AZ

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-anime-belfast-belchan-pat-gif-20835049

[crystal flicker]

that's a pity

Few hours b4 CA gambling

I need to be lucky it seems to win this one lmao

[cosmic dew]

are these teams ok for sp arena? i'm too stupid and skill issue to understand pvp terms and stuff

[crystal flicker]

Get 2RL if possible, Emi AoE is big and might clear Milk b4 they even burst

[swift mango]

Looks okay

[crystal flicker]

T3 is fine
T1 and 2 can be faster

SAnis kinda waste with all those hp buff

[swift mango]

How are u faster than 2rl

[crystal flicker]

T1 isn't 2RL tho

[swift mango]

Team 2

[crystal flicker]

#pvp-arena message

[frigid jungle]

can anyone give me a SP defense team?

[crystal flicker]

He can get 2 x 2RL team tho

[swift mango]

Yeah, you can cook.

[wise horizon]

had to change T3 too to make T2 faster at 2RL

[crystal flicker]

How big is Emilia's burst range?

[swift mango]

Idk if anyone here know about this show... But I always remember the line, "If Yan can cook, you can cook too"

[wise horizon]

sorry, i dont follow

[strong hull]

Gonna cook delicious meal for sure

[swift mango]

Aspiration cooker.

[crystal flicker]

No, I mean Emilia's burst is +100% explosion range
Does that mean she'll hit P3 or she'll hit everyone

[strong hull]

Very

[wise horizon]

ah. im always under the impression she hits all

[crystal flicker]

If you want something more certain
2RL Scarlet easily Nuke Milk and Biscuit + 1 Defender, make them out of burst order
Bottom just use any burstable team and you should win

3RL Scarlet also should burst b4 4RL b1

I never use Emilia, so I can't really guarantee her kits tbh

6 hours b4 16 CA result

[wise horizon]

something like this would work

[crystal flicker]

Should be OK

You only need to kill Milk and they wont burst

[wise horizon]

Never seen a treasured milk in PvP before but it is interesting

[whole pawn]

chat help?

[white bone]

guys can u tell me what nikke to in category Flex supporter?

[wise horizon]

T2 worked but T3 didn’t. RH got indom and survived

[white folio]

hi, is siren good for pvp? if so, why?
thank you

[swift mango]

Stun

[white folio]

ahh ok thank you

[crystal flicker]

How even they burst with that low gen tho

[wise horizon]

Guess I didn’t kill them fast enough

Here’s for your viewing pleasure

[gaunt viper]

how should I counter this?

[wise horizon]

I could try this.

[crystal flicker]

Your Emi under invest it seems

Blanc really cast Indom right before Emi hit lmao

[crystal flicker]

Do you have other AoE Nuke?

Judging from the video, I doubt Emi can go through Noah with 2 Hit

[swift mango]

Move Rumani to P1. Noah P2.

[crystal flicker]

Milk is the sole "Attacker" in that team, if her investment is good enough, you might have better chance bursting with HelmT coz she'll finish whoever has highest atk

Either that or get another AoE to nuke

[gaunt viper]

I wasn't sure how it would work since Noah taunted

[swift mango]

It just work

[gaunt viper]

Okay then, ty

[crystal flicker]

Use 2RL comp

[gaunt viper]

It in fact just work. I lost the previous try before asking. I didn't know about the stun 😅 . Good to know i can get B1 off before stun

[whole pawn]

i dont think i can do that, anyway i couldnt find him cuz the rank refreshed

[fiery parcel]

Ughhhhhhh

I was #1 this morning

[quick lake]

Such is sweaty SPA life

[fiery parcel]

Maybe i should just use my CD to get 2 levels up. Maybe not so easy to lose in sp arena

[late tiger]

any recommendations for my SP team?
blanc/emilia/rumani/Helm/Laplace 2RL
noah/cindy/noise/Siren/centi 3RL
scarlet/trina/anis/rosanna/jackal 2RL

[final wedge]

dat is for attacking or defending? feel like it is for attacking since defending would be way too readable

[late tiger]

both atm

[final wedge]

if it is for attacking, it shud be fine....i mean it can deal specific team

as for defending....i wouldnt use blanc emi 2RL and Noise Cindy 3RL

problem with defending is dat.....each SPA has different trend....u gotta caught urs...

for example....mine is has very weak when they cant guard against team dat has no biscuit

so i simply put 2 teams dat cant be beaten without biscuit.....cuz....my trend in SPA doesnt wanna use Makima anymore

[late tiger]

overall group uses similar combs

[final wedge]

yes and no imo

[late tiger]

difference is cindy team 2RL with helm
and emilia may be used as burst gauge increase for sbs to 3RL

[frigid mountain]

dude, i was able to hit challenger because of your help LOL

thank you so much

[final wedge]

gotta see how often u got failed on def and try to craft many teams hitting several types...for my case....i tried the following....All team 2RL fast burst, then moving to 2 anti AOE (Noah, Bay), then move to team dat cant live without biscuit (SG & blanc)

[late tiger]

i successfully defend attacks, but it can be easily adjusted

[final wedge]

i figured in my SPA....my attacker is kinda oblivious to use Makima...so he can only count on biscuit....if i have 2 teams dat cant be beaten without biscuit....i just need to worry about the 3rd

[late tiger]

and many use crystals for several tries

[final wedge]

if i were u....ill keep bothering dat guy

[late tiger]

i did, he spent 4k in 4 days

[final wedge]

keep doing it

[late tiger]

sadly, i also have to spend crystals

[final wedge]

lmao dont

[late tiger]

lost 2.4 overall and he lost 7k in that season

problem is more that more users join the battle now

[final wedge]

if u wan to be more cruel....check ur attacker time....if u got ur attacker time.....u can attack above ur rank and who knows ur attacker will attack him too

2 strategy dat i used back there when climbing the SPA ladder.....

• making a fuss....attacking randomly to stir up the rank who live in peace
• time them one by one when they move...then do calculated timing attack on certain person one at a time

[late tiger]

i tried many of these, problem is just there is no unique comb that can defend me atm

competition is quite high in top 5

let me break it down

scarlet/trina/anis/rosanna/jackal 2RL

this comb is not fast enough without helm

so an enemy with helm in this comb, even though i am 2LR

will still burst faster and take out all attackers just with rosanna

on the other hand, if i use my helm with lots of CS, i will always burst faster than any other enemy team with helm

noah/cindy/noise/Siren/centi 3RL

this team depends on noah to survive

although centi could burst, it will die to blanc teams and or scarlet, depending on how strong they are

that´s why siren is included, since she stuns blanc and scarlet

as they are in p1

even noah is stunned/noise, so good comb in general

blanc/emilia/rumani/Helm/Laplace 2RL

this will die when blanc doesn´t survive

[final wedge]

tbh....u dont need rosanna on defending...ur attacker wont be dat dumbo to challange dat team using Jackal tho

i would rather u go Soda for defending if ur using Scarlet Trina Helm....

Soda stuns randomly for 2 ppl for 1sec is good enuf to win a defending stage....

altho....ull sacrifice lots of RL booster for it

[late tiger]

soda, huh

i have her but not built

i will try that

[final wedge]

no need to built her...just put her on pos 3 ...she just needed for the stun

unless ur CP gapped ofc

[late tiger]

what lvl for skills?

and OL gear?

[final wedge]

1/1/1 :kekw:

[late tiger]

mmk o7

[final wedge]

i mean....u dont need to invest in soda at all.....she just needed for her random stun

[wise horizon]

Got any suggestions on this?

[wind kelp]

Oh btw, just wanted to wish everyone a good ranking shuffle on, 31st? May your ranks be balanced, and your whales reasonable 😄

[crystal flicker]

Whats B2 for SG comp?

[boreal mango]

what do you guys think about my prediction? I'm not sure about p1

[spare nimbus]

Need some help vs this guy

[lusty pelican]

may i ask for a good rookie arena defense? current one is this

[crystal flicker]

Bottom win

[crystal flicker]

2RL Scarlet
2RL Noah + Cindy / HelmT
Skip (You need Noah)

[tropic summit]

yeah you gonna need to defend aswell, else if opponent is a gemmer you won't stay there for long

[spare nimbus]

Should i use rosanna or rh for burst 1

For 2rl scarlet

[crystal flicker]

Either way you should burst before Rapunzel

That Emi is 3RL
2RL Scarlet will wipe before Rapunzel

[spare nimbus]

Ty for the win

[cosmic pilot]

You guys are doing this much? I just throw in anyone I like and am it diamond 1.

[summer copper]

yeah, that explains why you're just a diamond 1

[pale knoll]

[quiet fiber]

Whose coming out on top on this match?

[meager linden]

Hello, guys! Its me again 😄 Teams that you fixed doesnt work 😦 I dunno why.

My teams that was before:

[pale knoll]

Because defense can't be perfect. If the enemy know basic team counters, they'll beat any def you put

[meager linden]

How can i be in top4 to try champ arena? 😄

[late tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/digimon-anime-japanese-cartoon-credit-card-technology-gif-5607300

[muted stag]

help

[covert lintel]

i always see people using jackal against burst helm

[crystal flicker]

W/L
L/W
L/W
W/L
W/L

[night ingot]

Hey wizards of the arena. I feel it's time to update my pvp teams (1v1 and 3v3).
Current teams are :

Scarlet / Blanc / Red Hood / Centi / Jackal

Rumani / Biscuit / Anis S / Sugar / Tia
Bay / Centi / Pepper / Anis / Cinderella
Scarlet / Blanc / Red Hood / Noir / Jackal

Any suggestion ?
Thank you

[nocturne arrow]

thanks again mate
i can enjoy this beautiful painting because of you

[terse abyss]

can Siren's stun activate before Noah's drive on a RL2 team?

[quiet fiber]

Thank you

[covert lintel]

right win

[brittle oasis]

Brace yourself, he might copy your entire team

[nocturne arrow]

I dont think he have SAnis. Since i never saw him using her

[coarse solstice]

What's the odds they release sanis this summer

[keen vapor]

hoping you get Noah soon

[covert lintel]

i want alice summer

[keen vapor]

Use Emilia team against Scarlet team

Where's Noah

[coarse solstice]

All of them, just release all of them on a single gatcha 🙏🙏🙏🙂‍↕️

[keen vapor]

Seems right....

[fiery parcel]

Can i win?

Seems unlikely with their number of RLs

Or should i change hood to trina?

[keen vapor]

Hmmmm

[fiery parcel]

And helm snipe sanis

[stuck pike]

If Helm bursts before Noah

[fiery parcel]

Since thats their only b3

[keen vapor]

But it'll never happen

[stuck pike]

Do you know if rockets whiffs are verified as gone outside dying rocket whiffs?

[fiery parcel]

If i can kill sanis before noah burst, then they wont b3

Like this

I know it's rookie arena, but i just dropped to diamond 1 from challenger 1 14 hours ago

So.im a bit miffed and want to have some angry pvp moment

Hahahahaha

[placid bloom]

it's not gonna be in time

[fiery parcel]

Hmmm so what do i do? Play stall?

[stuck pike]

Blanc stall is one way

[stuck pike]

Because Jackal is linked with Biscuit and Sanis

You can use RH to tear his team apart

[fiery parcel]

Moran stall or noise stall?

[scenic hatch]

i won

[placid bloom]

Keripo strongest

[scenic hatch]

also i didnt lose 0-5 much better than his other opponents

so again i won

[keen vapor]

Switch Rumani and Biscuit between them, also, put Rapunzel on position 2 instead of 3

Now use this for second team

Blanc/Emilia/RH/Biscuit/Noise

For Scar team use either Liter or Siren

Equip Noise with quantum cube

[fiery parcel]

Blanc stall is noah blanc biscut rhood jackal?

[keen vapor]

Whiffs are gone, yes

[shell hazel]

[placid bloom]

Noise getting shot by SAnis, you need to be careful of redirect

[stuck pike]

No. Definitely not. Noah + Blanc there does nothing at all.

I was saying Blanc burst with RH burst 1 and 3

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit @spare brook @umbral belfry we made it through 😄

[fiery parcel]

And what's good for the rezt of the team?

[stuck pike]

Jackal to keep RH alive before she bursts plus burst gen.

Biscuit to keep Blanc alive.

[wise horizon]

Don’t get me started on Noah

[stuck pike]

Fill in with whichever burst gen for other

Helm is my favorite

[placid bloom]

don't need Biscuit, his SAnis is shooting p5 and his RLs are not killing Blanc in 2RL

[fiery parcel]

So blanc rhood, biscuit, helmt, jackal?

[stuck pike]

More or less. You can drop Biscuit for something else, but you don't need to either.

[coarse solstice]

Don't know what happened here but we didn't get there @tropic summit

[covert lintel]

oh no, my cheer failed
i forgot viper's burst was re-enter burst

[fiery parcel]

Siren?

[stuck pike]

Siren won't really change anything here.

[meager linden]

Im build a diff teams, again lol

1. Scar - Trina - RH - Centy - Jackal
2. Noise - Blanc - SBS - Emilia - Rumani
3. Noah - Rapunzel - SumerAnis - Thelm - Biscuit

Quntum 9 on Noise, Jackal, Centy, Emilia, Biscuit

Hows that team? UPD^ ahh and now i swich Rumani and Biscuit

[keen vapor]

Noah Noise Cinderella Helm Centi for round 1

Blanc Emilia Trina Noir Rumani for round 2

[fiery parcel]

Should be.... ok?

[swift mango]

right team could win.

[stuck pike]

seems fine.

[fiery parcel]

Let me try both

[covert lintel]

no

[scenic hatch]

it's so unfair that in SP arena rank1 not allowed to hit others and rob their points 2 times a day

[covert lintel]

after RH kill biscuit, she will aim p1

[scenic hatch]

[stuck pike]

Jackal is linked with Biscuit and Sanis

[placid bloom]

you're attacker?

[covert lintel]

oh wait p2 RH will be focused on noah

[keen vapor]

Noise Blanc team is highly likely making you lose

Like, letting her stay on P1

[coarse solstice]

Yeah

[placid bloom]

very unlucky, Moran casted B1 right before Helm casted B3 and taunted entire team

so your nuke landed on invin Moran from Biscuit

[fiery parcel]

Blanc team didnt win

[placid bloom]

and you got cleaned up by SBS

[coarse solstice]

Shoot I was at 2.5 RL so they were at 2 somehow?

[placid bloom]

nah I think they are like 3-3.5 but that's in time for B1 to cast before your B3

just really really unlucky

if you were a fraction of a second faster then SBS probably dies

[keen vapor]

F

[placid bloom]

and Helm doesn't beat your Moran

[meager linden]

Blanc - SBS - Emilia - Biscuit - Noise
Its ok now?

[coarse solstice]

Nope she's meant to beat SBS and Cindy

[fiery parcel]

Noise team got it tho

[coarse solstice]

@umbral belfry SG team got there 👌

[placid bloom]

but you can see Moran still has ammo when your Bay is casting

[fiery parcel]

But it was sweaty

[keen vapor]

You can try it like that but it'll be exposed to fast teams and taunter + biscuit teams

That's why I suggested a 2 RL Emilia team

[placid bloom]

and it's infinite ammo when your Helm casts

so she was able to taunt in time

[stuck pike]

Noah taunted before you could scratch em with RH. I was gonna say Sanis since Noah would only taunt off one of Sanis's bolts.

[keen vapor]

Wait, no I did not suggest 2 RL

I haven't wake up

[coarse solstice]

Brutal. Still top 16 is a good second showing

[meager linden]

Oh i see.. Then i try Emilia team with RH instead of SBS. And put Siren on RH place in Scar team

[keen vapor]

Pendiente

[keen vapor]

Please

[meager linden]

Thx again, mate

[raven plover]

biscuit higher atk than sanis

[keen vapor]

Noise/Rumani/Cinderella/Bay/Noir
SBS/Blanc/Red Hood/Centi/Jackal
Tia/Pepper/Biscuit/Summer Anis/Siren

For rookie.... Try
Siren/SBS/Blanc/Centi/Jackal

Please full overload your units

[shell hazel]

4RL died at team 5, honestly most of the times they've faced tough teams so it was kind of my throw away spot anyway

same for team 1, I figure they have a chance of winning but isn't really my focus, 2-4 was the focus teams

but both 1/5 have won matches so works out 🙂

[stuck pike]

Dair won his match this time . Ez money for me.

[shell hazel]

wondering if mihara sacrifice could be a fun play for CA

[placid bloom]

it's too hard to sac

even my naked Scarlet takes too long to die

[stuck pike]

She's not OL yet?

[placid bloom]

nah I can't build her when I'm pushing campaign

[stuck pike]

Helps in some pve situations. Not many, but a screenwipe early on in some battles can be nice.

[placid bloom]

But yeah I built this expecting naked Scarlet and Neon to die to push my speed to 3RL but Neon didn’t even die so she bursted instead of Ros

[shell hazel]

she deals damage if she dies as I understand it

[placid bloom]

her chains should immediately proc upon entering battle though

and she only gets more chains if she lives to end of full burst or enemies start dying

so her job is usually done as soon as the battle starts

I think it's a good chunk of damage if you're trying to kill before burst, maybe with SG team

but it also hits random enemies

oh wait it does strengthen the DoT

instantly max stacks

[shell hazel]

yeah, so I mean it could be slightly cope but if she dies you can play into it I guess

[placid bloom]

you can crash her into Scarlet and then DoT them to death while under Noah invin

[shell hazel]

but I will have more than one copy I think so it makes it harder for her to die, plus I intend to overload so even more so 😄

I don't want to totally gimp her just for the sake of pvp as I want to use in raids etc

[placid bloom]

it's more of an attacker strat than a blind strat though

[boreal mango]

bottom won p5 too, some of these are impossible to predict

[primal charm]

chat in full burst with b3 helm can my team healing from dealing dmg to an imunity noah?

[placid bloom]

no.

[keen vapor]

[placid bloom]

guess the guy forgot to check if SBS was the lowest HP of the Jackal links Blanc team never works with Jackal if the 3rd link has weaker doll and/or less core

[dull ocean]

Help

[umbral belfry]

I'm safe SG team yhe mvp

[umbral belfry]

Hippo getting revenge for last time

[shell hazel]

I've had a scan of the teams I'm up against in top 8, I am sort of confident on them

[clear folio]

hello, anyone in the lvl 300 range check my matchup? manage to win from champ last run but think my streak ends here

[coarse solstice]

Hime did you see the hot nonsense that Moran pulled on me 😭

[clear folio]

top left *

[shell hazel]

i'll post the videos and team comps later 🙂

[umbral belfry]

Nah I just woke up 😭 Haven't checked nikke or anything. what happened

[shell hazel]

get ready for work! 😦

[umbral belfry]

Oh you're in my bracket Which one are you

[umbral belfry]

No

[placid bloom]

hmm my next match don't look good for me

I think I lose

[clear folio]

ace! xD

[umbral belfry]

Lock in 🗣️

[shell hazel]

phone in sick!

[umbral belfry]

I'll check

[umbral belfry]

Ironic how tempting that is

[shell hazel]

"i'm sick... of work" 😛

[barren elk]

oh no... Kira killed L

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/light-death-note-sign-ballpen-pen-gif-5458508141428299538

[dull ocean]

Help me and thank u for that @tropic summit

[shell hazel]

switch to landscape mode for your image and sort by power (though I think power is default on rarity)

top right you can change the mode, it lets you copy a lot more in one image

hard to tell where your power sort starts or ends in those ones

[placid bloom]

FRGFF is the only one from last top 8 that made this top 8

seem like repeat frame ain't that easy

[clear folio]

ohh wait this was you! lol gg

[coarse lake]

it's rng-fest

[shell hazel]

I dunno about others but I still got screwed by tie-break issue last time, I'm sure some others who should have gotten through didn't

[coarse lake]

out of my top 8, there was a prev top 32 and a top 8, rest of us didn't make it past league last time

[barren elk]

these fights should be interesting

[grand plaza]

My eyes

[placid bloom]

oh I see another Noah-less

just gotta get better pathing

[raven plover]

right win

[dull ocean]

@shell hazel here u r and thank u for reply me

[shell hazel]

that is not landscape mode sir

[coarse solstice]

@clear folio GG! Man that match was rough. I saw you took out my copy cat in prelims and figured it would be tough. The only team they didn't copy 1 for 1 was my helm list and it didn't have Bay. I was hoping Helm being at 2.5 was fast enough but Moran burst first

[barren elk]

probably

[clear folio]

ah yeah i wasnt sure of that team 2 match! i prayed 😂

[shell hazel]

use this

you'll see the image shows a lot more nikke per page then

[placid bloom]

I think I lose team 5 unless my Bay clutches so I have to win 2 and 4, which means my Scarlet has to outlast Noah Biscuit and my Rumani has to not die to SGs

[coarse solstice]

Same lmao, I had to watch it in slow mo and still couldn't find the trigger. @placid bloom explained it

[clear folio]

haha its ok u already have the frame! i think i lose the next one though

[umbral belfry]

@clear folio W L Leaning W W L

[swift mango]

2 maybe, p4 impossible

I would vote bottom

[placid bloom]

his SGs are all uninvested other than Naga so I'm praying

[umbral belfry]

😭 Sbs counters moran bay helmt

[placid bloom]

[clear folio]

in my favor? doesnt biscuit counter scar? oh well 🤞

[coarse solstice]

WLLWL @clear folio from what I can see

[dull ocean]

@shell hazel oh thats new for me

[coarse solstice]

But I was wrong about mine so **** lol

[umbral belfry]

bisc + def counters sbs, not scar

[clear folio]

thats what i think too but idk i just started pvp lol

[umbral belfry]

God I have to cheer this matchup too 😭

If I cheer wrong it's gg

[swift mango]

rumani is definitely ded, you could pray tour maiden kill their Naga before she burst.

[clear folio]

the cheer in mine is funny it goes 50/50 back n forth

[umbral belfry]

I wouldn't always rely on cheer

more often than not I've seen it wrong

[clear folio]

true! ayt ty top 8 not bad i guess gg

[swift mango]

Not if Helm one shot your SBS. But it's not really counter, unbuffed SBS may fall frey to moran DR and HelmT life steal... unless Blanc'ed

[umbral belfry]

Either way it goes,

[umbral belfry]

Good ol

[shell hazel]

that's good thanks, think you got enough there to make some decent teams, what are you running atm and what are you getting in SPA rank wise?

[umbral belfry]

Every blanc sbs vs moran bay helmt matxhup I've seen ended up with the latter losing ao that's why I was under that assumption

[coarse solstice]

HelmT will be 2rl next season...

[umbral belfry]

[umbral belfry]

I might have to Copy someone's homework and go the moran bay helmt too. I used bay before but she was 3.5 Rl

And while 2 rl noah is good, I'd like another anti nuke so 3 rl with bisc ahold be fine

even if it's 3 rl cindy

[coarse solstice]

3RL Noah is better in a lot of cases.

[umbral belfry]

My 2 rl noah cindy lost to a 3 rl noab cindy

[coarse solstice]

Depending on your DPS

[umbral belfry]

but yeah it is

[coarse solstice]

Exactly

[umbral belfry]

I'd rather have a 2 rl bay vs a 2 rl noah, 3 rl bay is

[coarse solstice]

3RL Bay isn't bad tbh still stop SBS Cindy and sometimes scarlet.

[dull ocean]

@shell hazel i lost top 60 last week and i can't beat them now i don't know why

[swift mango]

[coarse solstice]

2RL Bay is faster than 2RL Noah since it activates during B1 right?

[grand plaza]

What do you think about 1 and 4th matches?

I think Booba cooked with 4th team but overkilled with Quiry. No one deals damage

[umbral belfry]

Unfortunate

[placid bloom]

the enemy team is all squishy though

[umbral belfry]

Wouldn't it be the same speed?

[placid bloom]

it's not even Helm bursting so no life steal

[umbral belfry]

Can't look too much into it, work time

[coarse solstice]

I think Noah happens just after Bay.

[placid bloom]

Bay has to cast burst to get the cover damage share , I don't know if there's a delay

[umbral belfry]

Smart on the opps to use mana/rapu on that specific team though

[swift mango]

Darn what a close loss.

[grand plaza]

You think its top win? I wonder if bot can burst through bay+moran

[swift mango]

Who could have thought

[coarse solstice]

Right I just reread and had misunderstood

[shell hazel]

maybe this but your team 3 is a bit slow

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

I don't see Helm anywhere, do you have her?

[dull ocean]

I dont have her

[placid bloom]

how is bot ever bursting everyone shooting at Moran invin from Biscuit and bot is like 8RL burst speed, they just get gunned down from full burst on one side and no full burst on the other

[shell hazel]

damnit no pepper either 😄

[shell hazel]

wishlist for her for certain, otherwise it's gold mileage

[placid bloom]

their team has no defense

[shell hazel]

you may just need to cp pad team 3 for now and hope for the best

[dull ocean]

Thank u for that wish all the best for u and u will get all nikke in next collab

[grand plaza]

Honestly I am still kinda cluless about how Siren helps with burst gen

And I guess I am underestimating damage of top team?

[umbral belfry]

You should wish for him to get rumani

[shell hazel]

hope my mihara pulls go well 🙂

we'll need a new team 3 for you though you don't have pepper

[swift mango]

That's also a common comp but he burst much slower.

[umbral belfry]

I haven't put it in the deck but it looks def like 3 RL? 3.5?

[placid bloom]

30fps MGs so double MG is super slow, you get your first proc Siren burst gen proc at like 6.5RL

[grand plaza]

Thats helpful

[shell hazel]

try this for team 3 hopefully it's higher CP, it's not going to burst quickly though

[placid bloom]

4RL and it's only like 5/8th of the way to 400 bullet

[shell hazel]

ideally you need rumani here and treasure helm

wishlist for both

work on helm materials from bulletins even if you don't have her yet

[umbral belfry]

The amount of full on siren + MG/SMG teams I've seen

Haven't seen a successful one

[placid bloom]

and I just realized

that Helm isn't even HelmT, so my Helm pic is wrong

[swift mango]

They are successful in Solo raid.

[placid bloom]

this the correct

[umbral belfry]

@worthy sorrel You're my only hope now 🗣️LOCK IN

[shell hazel]

right so sort of final but allow @tropic summit to check over it as well as anyone else here, It will probably do better than whatever you run atm

original post/units: #pvp-arena message

[grand plaza]

@placid bloom May I ask your opinion on first match?

Since there is no deficit I am having hard time what will happen on situations like this. Top team has a huge CP advantage but would blanc+cind can wipe them?

[swift mango]

Now co.op with 5 MG+SMG+Cindy won't be ass at bursting anymore.

[dull ocean]

Ok thank u, i will get them soon

[shell hazel]

hope so

I need rumani as well, did you have the NY selector still or used it?

[placid bloom]

top loses for sure, if Rapi dies they don't have a B1

[shell hazel]

if you didn't use the selector yet could be an option to consider for rumani or helm, arguably helm is the more important one

[placid bloom]

although, it's Rapi + LapT vs elec Moran unprotected

maybe Moran dies too fast

but from my experience, Rapi kills super slow at 30fps

so LapT has to do the heavy lifting

[swift mango]

Top lose 100% why wonder.

[grand plaza]

Scarlet is pretty invested as well

[shell hazel]

I will a bit later on am not in game atm

[grand plaza]

CP diff tbh, I am not sure how much difference it makes without deficit

[shell hazel]

i'll post the videos from the matches we just had + get the teams on the deck builder

[placid bloom]

it's definitely a lot of damage, it depends on what cube Moran is on and her gear

Moran can definitely tank a good amount

[swift mango]

Blue whale lv1000 with 1300k team loss to 6-700k team F2P asses. You think this is any better?

[placid bloom]

I don't think they can burn all the way to Pepper before burst though even if Moran dies

[swift mango]

[placid bloom]

so at the very minimum Cinderella should burst

and that should be more than enough regardless of if it's Blanc debuff that applies or Centi -def

[grand plaza]

I think its pretty clear

I guess overall top wins that then

2 - 2 - 1 - 1 -1

[swift mango]

Invest is still matters though, if their Scarlet 111 no doll no OL I doubt she could wipe anything.

[keen vapor]

Couldn't be me :Ruru nervous:

[swift mango]

Especially with Blanc+RH also 111.

[swift mango]

[grand plaza]

Sure, fair. Thats why it overall confuses me.

Previous season a lot of matches I thought Scarlet would wipe, didn't end that way. Thats why now I can't be sure when top team pretty much %50 cp more than bottom on first match

[swift mango]

Is that p4, helm with treasure or not?

[grand plaza]

Not