pvp-arena

[shell hazel]

new/more batteries could reduce lapt+ usefulness though I guess

[umbral belfry]

I got too lucky with sr 15 with the drake event now I'm cursed

[shell hazel]

especially if the meta is one SG team, it limits where you can put others

[coarse solstice]

Lapt is a good flex battery against electric P1 and P2

[umbral belfry]

I was thinking of adding her onto my scar team but I gotta check the speed

[shell hazel]

but CA is rng placement ofc

[umbral belfry]

p2 trina sure do be looking tasty

[umbral belfry]

CA as a whole is rng 😭

[shell hazel]

lapt+ looks like she is a bit under xmaiden for burst gen

it's just she is good for battery + she is a dps more in her own right I guess

[umbral belfry]

scar lap+ xmaid trina jackal is 2.5 RL maybe? I can't check speeds rn, gotta get ready for work

[coarse solstice]

I think of her as a cracked out clipSG

She hits so damn hard

[umbral belfry]

[umbral belfry]

it is time

[umbral belfry]

ty ty!

I can put RH somewhere else then

[placid bloom]

if it was a carry that isn't Scarlet you'd need 3 clip + 1 regular RL to reach 2RL

[coarse solstice]

Oooh that's actually really interesting

[umbral belfry]

Anyway, time to get ready for work

[placid bloom]

like Cinderella

Scarlet Jackal is just abnormally fast

even without feed

[swift mango]

@tropic summit So, Did your prediction right or crowd predicted right?

I pushed through.

[tulip quest]

WHALE

[shell hazel]

@raven plover you win? 😛

[shell hazel]

nah it's more of a mermaid tbh

[raven plover]

yes... and Im about to lose vs my own teams

[shell hazel]

your greatest opponent, is yourself

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/harry-potter-severus-snape-snape-alan-rickman-indeed-gif-4496555

[merry agate]

How the result bay sr15?

[swift mango]

What do you even mean?

[shell hazel]

right I'm certainly on def for the next one...

[raven plover]

@unique mountain right where clip boss

[unique mountain]

Bay lost, still want it?

[raven plover]

3/4 people copy paste my defs, just diff pos

[shell hazel]

send the clips

[raven plover]

ok no

[unique mountain]

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit and anyone else who cares, how do you think my next matches look? I'm def so bottom here

[swift mango]

[unique mountain]

I copy your def for spa

And wake up d3

[raven plover]

:icant:

[merry agate]

Where is hoboman def team? Let me copy too

[placid bloom]

how invested are your SGs compared to their SGs

[shell hazel]

we both have poorly invested SG's lmao

[placid bloom]

actually they are bursting with Noir since you're shooting back to front, you should win even if they burst

[merry agate]

Can you share the HD version, without the menu

[shell hazel]

you can see it in the game 😛

nikkedex or in the gacha thing

[placid bloom]

W/W/L/W/W

[shell hazel]

the SG teams, them on left me on right

[placid bloom]

yeah it doesn't matter, you're not dying to 68k Noir burst

[shell hazel]

you think I'll win even match 5?

[unique mountain]

Who winnin this chat

[placid bloom]

I don't think 4RL Bay catches Scarlet and they have SG + AR to probably feed you to 2.5

have to check bullet count though

[shell hazel]

right but I am on bottom, not top 😛

[placid bloom]

oh

[shell hazel]

so the 4RL Bay is me

[placid bloom]

forgot lol

[shell hazel]

I mean I figured I'd be losing that one anyway

I think I win 2/3, they may take 4/5, and 1 is ???

depends if indom SBS fires properly on t2, my anis/pepper are super weak

if I crash out here then it's fine, top 16 is good anyway especially compared to last where I got knocked out due to tie-break shenanigans

[unique mountain]

Team 1 3 and 4 are boats , 2 and 5 are ✓

[swift mango]

Don't you think if Blanc could burst hitting anyone the SG team would lose?

[placid bloom]

Your Blanc won't indom, it's gonna be Siren stunned. But it doesn't matter, SBS cleans up no matter what and they can't swing over Biscuit invin

your team 3 is probably the hardest one tbh, 3RL Noah should still catch 2RL Cindy and all your followup damage is single target so you lose to Biscuit

[shell hazel]

I had a 3RL Noah in last matchup and it sort of did, but sort of didn't lol

[placid bloom]

yeah you will sneak some hits in

[shell hazel]

could be somewhat RNG

wound up in a cindy vs cindy + helm fight and Helm won 😄

[cedar orbit]

Need voting help, what does new Rei do?

[covert lintel]

→ L 4rl R 3rl
→jackal link get removed
→jackal get bullied
→rosanna accelerate
boommmm

[swift mango]

Left is 3rl though... Unless Jackal just died before her 3rd shoot.

[covert lintel]

[swift mango]

This is 3rl. Not to mention 70 bullets feeds before link removed. Then they still shot to Jackal.

[unique mountain]

[swift mango]

[lunar pawn]

need to check my cheer, hope I lost, wish me luck

[covert lintel]

let's just wait the report tomorrow

[swift mango]

Wish you win.

[shell hazel]

[unique mountain]

Lives are on the line

I eep

[swift mango]

Team should still be 2.5RL with that much feeds but whether Blanc could hit the right target is a problem... Worst case she hit RH and she doesn't burst 3.

[drifting socket]

is Drake nuke any good?

[swift mango]

DrakeT nuke is very strong. Enough to nuke Cindy from full HP if it hit.

[lunar pawn]

let's goooo

[swift mango]

Key word is "if it hit"

[covert lintel]

but single

[lunar pawn]

now I wait for keripo's assessment of his own fight

[covert lintel]

[drifting socket]

ic

biscuit counters drake and viper then right?

[swift mango]

I say it's 2 target but you could argue against it.

[covert lintel]

if only there is a nikke who buff allies's burst into an aoe

[swift mango]

Idk broda, it's always me who lose.

[lone sequoia]

R1 B
R2 B
R3 A
R4 B
R5 B

[calm kettle]

left if not wrong fight

[lone sequoia]

my cheer is 50/50 all 5 rounds

[unique mountain]

[swift mango]

Last time it made perfect sense but this time it's just bully.

[calm kettle]

thats fight perline auto? If auto fight right win lel

[oblique ridge]

@tropic summit Bottom won.
L/W
W/L
L/W
W/L
L/W

Notes so far:

• R1: Top killed Noise before Noise could burst, but it appears Siren bursted. Additionally, Siren stunned Makima before she could B2 burst. This was enough to let Cindy be last one standing, albeit almost dead.
• R2: SGs and Rosanna team couldn’t kill Nero before bursts, and then was stalled out very effectively. RIP Rosanna.
• R3: Moran and Bay successfully tanked Cindy nuke as if it didn’t do anything. Maybe destroyed a couple covers?
• R4: Chaos. Top Rosanna dispelled Scarlet link, then B1 burst nuked that Scarlet into ashes. Then top Rapunzel revived Scarlet. Simultaneously, top Blanc was annihilated. So top Centi B2 bursted instead while bottom Anne B2 bursted (no one to revive, but spike healed team). Then both Scarlets B3 bursted and almost everyone was mutually annihilated. But Rosanna, Noir, and Anne clung on with almost no health. W/L.
• R5: Top Emilia died before B2s could burst. Though RH did B3 burst in her stead, but was countered by Noah/Biscuit.

[drifting hazel]

I should win this right? 10/10/10 helm

[keen vapor]

What? No

Why would you

You have no defense against his attack and you're on deficit

[drifting hazel]

True

If i had a built Noah would it be a different story

[keen vapor]

Yes?

You need to overload biscuit and Rumani as well

[drifting hazel]

Rumani has 3 pieces, biscuit got like 1

[shell hazel]

lack of investment there given that you're higher level and at cp deficit

[keen vapor]

[shell hazel]

other guy has clearly invested into the team 😄

[drifting hazel]

True, tho his last team is just pve units, he more than likely already had those upgraded

[shell hazel]

cp padding

[calm kettle]

yes if u fast brust calculated

[drifting hazel]

Like he has SR doll on honiRep I doubt he’s using too much comp knowledge

Funny enough the chuck is level 400 but lower synchro

Rip I guess I’ll get knocked back down to 4th hard finding noobs using cp padding. Took a kid out with 400k more cp than I

[calm kettle]

still depend ol 👀plus comp

[drifting hazel]

Yeah he probably already had it down

I just need some more dolls and doll mats, upgrading my FI Nikkes was not very friendly…doing RH rn, was thinking Cindy next

[grand plaza]

I am not missing something here right?

This is easy lose?

[drifting hazel]

The hell is Nero doing here

[lone sequoia]

no Sr15=bad nero

[grand plaza]

I think he tried to respawn with Rapunzel but...

[upper grove]

my worse match up lost in their top 32

[raven plover]

more like what the hell rapipi doing there

[drifting hazel]

CP padding ofc

Nero getting one shot bro

[shell hazel]

onwards to victory!

[oblique ridge]

@keen vapor I think it was you that also chipped in with some predictions on this matchup? Updated with the results. It’s nutty

[grand plaza]

Against this

[drifting hazel]

Yeah you’re cooked

[upper grove]

I'm top, opponent bottom:
match 1: I burst -> win
match 2: will my SG all hit RH? If they do, RH should die and then they have no B1 right -> I win?
match 3: If my Cindy wipes their Rapu I win I guess?
match 4: sanis vs scar, I win
match 5: my Noah should block the helm nuke right? Then I win?

[shell hazel]

on attack SG don't focus on P5

as I understand it that is more of a defence thing

[keen vapor]

Yes me how it ended

[shell hazel]

I think they shoot P5 like once each then switch to P1 so it depends

[upper grove]

okay according to keripo notes I'm attacker cause I'm top side

[shell hazel]

yeah if you left on the screen you attacking

on the cheer one

[upper grove]

Attacking SMG, MG, SG, AR and RL will focus on P1.

damn, okay I lose match 2 then I guess

all SG shooting at scarlet

[shell hazel]

yeah, but I think you looking pretty good anyway

their t3 is very slow

[keen vapor]

Oh, I'm blind

[upper grove]

yeah if my cindy can nuke the rapu I win match 3

and they are slower anyway

Noah taunt makes Helm nuke hit her right?

[swift mango]

Be this guy and win.

[shell hazel]

think Noah will protect you on t5 yeah

and they had no real counter to your helm

[upper grove]

easy outplayed, clearly a skill issue

[shell hazel]

think Bay is more of a mini-Noah at home? I don't really use mine

[upper grove]

bay needs healthy cover to absorb a 1 hit nuke like scar iirc

[swift mango]

Scar god mode on.

[oblique ridge]

I have no idea how but I think all of my calls went the other direction (meaning they all were wrong) and it was still Bottom that won match Still won the cheer

[upper grove]

best part about CA is I won vs the ch1 in my bracket, the rat

[keen vapor]

Nero sweep

[swift mango]

My C1-2 can't even get to top 64 this CA.

[shell hazel]

I am the ch1 rat in mine lol

[keen vapor]

Moran bay the strongest

[swift mango]

My C4 dude finally get to top 64 this time but lost there.

[shell hazel]

not impossible they ran into the tie-break issue I did last season

where I think I was meant to be 1st but the random ordering thing SU did made me 3rd instead

[swift mango]

My C1 maybe, trained by me hitting him. C2 is shit Gemmer his team aren't even decent.

[shell hazel]

I've not had to use gems in SPA yet, I don't know if I'd even bother most of the time, race to the bottom then

[keen vapor]

Emilia dying
:Classic:

[upper grove]

the leviathan?

[shell hazel]

top 3 is pretty chill atm

[keen vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[upper grove]

I can always hit ch1 but I don't bother cause that guy is gemming

[swift mango]

He has the core 7 many units more than the C1 whale but his synch level is lower.

[upper grove]

and then he puts a no invest rosanna and no treasure laplace in CA, ez win

[shell hazel]

make em spend, hit em just before reset if you got spare tries 😛

[upper grove]

just a pull enjoyer

[shell hazel]

speaking of think I need to do 200 pulls for Mihara

and maybe 220 if I want the 10 gold doll mats

180 is a good stopping point but I need 200 min for gold mileage dupes

[upper grove]

not worth sadly, the other top 3 guy hits me instead of ch1

ONLY me. too afraid of the other guy or idk

[swift mango]

Yeah, Anis fan. Dude gave up in SpA quick enough against the C1 whale... Maybe I should try hitting him and change def to train him but too lazy to change my DEF now...

[upper grove]

cause that guy is easily beatable

[shell hazel]

might be friends

[swift mango]

[upper grove]

they change their def but I can always kill

[swift mango]

Because they don't have the investment needed.

[oblique ridge]

Nice, this time my cheer is on Zlabs vs SkyJlv

[upper grove]

They don't believe in me

[oblique ridge]

Surely it’ll be easier to predict?!

[swift mango]

I don't either.

[upper grove]

posted the match above, I should win right?

[swift mango]

I'm not read back to find.

[keen vapor]

Sky sweep

[upper grove]

#pvp-arena message

[leaden canyon]

top 16 this time

[graceful marsh]

Guys, who will win here?

[shell hazel]

pepper put some clothes on lass

you'll catch a cold

[lone sequoia]

nude mod?

[shell hazel]

oh and Anis 😄

[lone sequoia]

i think you did the same on reddit like 1 year ago(?

[graceful marsh]

What?

[shell hazel]

@Modernia

[swift mango]

It's practically impossible for Cindy to wipe 1 RL slower Rapu.

They could win 2-3-4 with a good chance.... In 2, You probably kill Scar and XMaiden but RH is all the way in p5, could burst and kill your team... In 4, you could probably feed them to 2rl if they had quantum on Jackal+Centi... So Blanc on ASS gonna solo... In 3, Noah> Cindy.

Their 5 also has small chance to win.

You could win all but with smaller chance.

[drifting socket]

any guesses? :)

[dim sapphire]

Invest in moran or rosanna next

[lone sequoia]

you already know what moran need, rosanna is expensive...

[dim sapphire]

10/10/10 💀

[lone sequoia]

moran only skills+OL lv5

[dim sapphire]

Would def matters for her ol

[lone sequoia]

rosanna 7/10/10+ OL5 +4Atk+...crit rate... 2 ele...ammo

[lunar pawn]

wut

[lone sequoia]

team A-B left right

[lunar pawn]

so keripo wins by a landslide? you already compared teams?

[upper grove]

alright thanks good to know that cindy cannot wipe rapu in this case, so I lose 2 and 3, and 5 it's a gamble basically

[lone sequoia]

you can wait, only one team is 50/50 but he should have more speed(?

[dim sapphire]

scarlet really took me a year to get and i finished building her in 5 rocks

[swift mango]

In 5, your HelmT will hit Cindy decoy or Bay cover. And their HelmT will hit your Noah invulnerable, providing no CS difference.

[dim sapphire]

Got 11% attack and ele for the helm

[lone sequoia]

you need 4atk for pvp, or 3and dupes/SR15

scarlet*

[dim sapphire]

3 att not enough?

[shell hazel]

damn those boots are OP

[dim sapphire]

Well fine then good thing i can just lock the first line cs , should be fine

[lone sequoia]

is fine, the thing is when you want to use 1 buffer, you will need more dmg, or to kill a unit with s2 counters

[shell hazel]

I'd roll the helm I think

only 1 stat and it's line 1

[dim sapphire]

I rerolled it this old screenshot

[lone sequoia]

if you use double buff scarlet 3atk lines are enough

[dim sapphire]

11% att and ele

I thought with trina her att line requirement would be less important.

[lone sequoia]

if she is your only buffer, the thing is that trina buff is not enough to kill unitss with high core count in p3~p5 and or noise at the same speed

you can also face noah who S2 reduce atk or teams with high DR

you will need a crit to wipe the enemy

[shell hazel]

I'd leave the chest as is tbh, at least for now

[lone sequoia]

visor reroll, can get 2 other lines

[shell hazel]

more important things to roll, the 3 stats on chest are all good

[dim sapphire]

scarlet rerolled

[lone sequoia]

now focus in other units

[umbral crown]

Cooking Cindy P1

[keen vapor]

Just no

[umbral crown]

Its his fault

I have 2 RL against that team

Well 3, bay is one so gonna block theor cindy and win since they have no protection

My cindy is P5

[valid fern]

scar counter is supposed to be 30% chance right

[stuck hearth]

Trina diff is real.

[swift mango]

0-100% depending on ur luck

[keen vapor]

[digital hornet]

How good is little mermaid in pvp? Like I can see her as a good buffer but idk if low burst gen is worth it

[keen vapor]

Buffer? Bro we use her to stun P1

[swift mango]

Don't use her, no worth.

[stuck hearth]

Were you the opponent? Lol

[keen vapor]

Nope, what happened

[swift mango]

After he unbrick himself

[keen vapor]

I need hard mode

[digital hornet]

U mean goon mode?

[stuck hearth]

Wut?

[swift mango]

I'm too lazy to campaign even though no longer stuck...

[worthy sorrel]

gg hime! feels like all these close matches come down to bay shenanigans lol

last tourney too, my matchup with ura came down an iffy cindy vs bay matchup where bay ate. she ate it all

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

He is 🧱

[keen vapor]

I am now stuck

[stuck hearth]

Oof. Losing to a brick is more sad. My 2nd team was my main pvp squad. Died to Trina ult 😔

[wicked horizon]

Always the last battle that's a tossup.
Think the .5 faster burst will wipe the left team?

[swift mango]

I mean he can't get to CA because 🧱

[swift mango]

Blanc win

[worthy sorrel]

any props go to @coarse lake for the cook though. i set up a couple 2rls, a shotgun and dream, and he somehow was able to turn it into 5 viable teams. sounds like his tournament is going well too this time

[wicked horizon]

How does she survive? 🤔

[swift mango]

Both team 2rl because feeds. Right lost because they used Liter.

[valid fern]

ok I thought my rosa died to counter from 25 bullets which is absurd but its actually out of 34 since I had bastion on her apparently. a little less absurd but still got countered at 44% rate geez.

[wicked horizon]

Oh, no, the numbers account for feed.
Left team is 3RL without feed.

Unless I miscalculated and Liter feeds a whole "second".

[swift mango]

You accounted wrong

The scarlet liter team feed goddamn over 60 bullet into this. They aren't survive.

Just math better

[wicked horizon]

Fair enough.

I'm sure I'll guess wrong anyways due to something else.

[swift mango]

They would still lose even if they used RH instead.

[elder hatch]

im probably bricked but what teams should i use?

[swift mango]

@tropic summit How are you today bro? Hope you are well.

[elder hatch]

will also get mermaid and mihara

[umbral belfry]

At least now you have 100% confirmation that 2 rl moran bay can block a natural 2 rl scar also our blanc indoms either not fast enough or failing either way was funny good luck to you throughout the tourney!

@coarse solstice there's a husky here at the clinic today dapper's friend

[worthy sorrel]

urawhat was running a similar blanc team too and also noticed issues in the league pools. in league pools my wins were 4-1 with just blanc indom getting messed up and losing team 1

[umbral belfry]

[umbral belfry]

yeah that makes sense! but even if my sbs got indom it wouldn't have mattered, that's a hard counter matchup

but that's okay i had fun and learned a lot

[cloud shoal]

2.5 years on this game, i have all the nikkes, 80% of them c7 and still i can 't understand what teams i have to do to climb over diamond 3 lmao any kind soul who would like to help me build those pvp teams?

[placid bloom]

[cloud shoal]

i know i'm bad but at least i love my nikkes

[placid bloom]

well having all Nikke =/= having them invested

[cloud shoal]

i know, but if someone knows "the default teams" at least i could check if i built them or not

[lunar pawn]

Post your roster and we can judge point you in the right direction

[placid bloom]

Scarlet Trina
Noise Cinderella, Noah is optional
Blanc team

[ashen ocean]

i finally got Scarlet so i need a lil' bit of help for both my Rookie Arena team and my SP teams (taking into account that i will invest in Scarlet and Trina once Siren is full OL)

[placid bloom]

if don't want to do Blanc team can do Noah 3rd team with another AoE nuke

[cloud shoal]

thanks, will do it

[lunar pawn]

Anyone got videos of siren in SPA? I wanna see examples of her delayed stun

[covert lintel]

i only used her in def sometime to make fun of any atker

[grand plaza]

What do you think about 4th match?

[obtuse dagger]

my opponent used it against me

[elder hatch]

anyone?

[shell hazel]

one of the best pvp b1's not in synchro!

[elder hatch]

i've not focused on pvp and left a few spots ins synchro, can always change stuff around

[shell hazel]

add Rumani to synchro for sure

high burst gen versatile b1 battery

are you after teams for SPA? if so what are you running now?

[elder hatch]

the one with 3 teams? yeah. im just running mostly teams made with auto, basically highest cp units

[shell hazel]

nah you want at least 2 good teams + 1 high cp can work

3 auto teams is doomed 😛

[elder hatch]

i've also taken breaks so my synchro level is lower than most, even more bricked

[shell hazel]

oh I can tell because you have Anis summer and I don't but I have like 50 levels on ya 😄

what position are you currently sort of getting in SPA each season? you'll likely never win it anymore due to sync but you can do better than you are as a valid goal

[elder hatch]

Hahaha pain. These are the teams, atk and def the same. Around 100 rn

[shell hazel]

based on your B3's we'd probably want to build a team around Cindy for one, and SBS for another

or maybe RH

you lack other good B3 options and I don't see drunk scarlet who is a pvp staple of sorts

[elder hatch]

Yeah neither her nor crown unfortunately

[placid bloom]

SAnis is okay

dunno how strong yours is though

[shell hazel]

SAnis is a good battery unit at least

if not core dps

[elder hatch]

My units generally aren't strong, I haven't rerolled for ol stats, mainly just getting the ol pieces themselves

[shell hazel]

Crown isn't really a pvp core either, she's good and her buffs are nice, but MG feeds opponent burst gen if they run say Jackal

do you have a bunch of saved resources/rocks?

[elder hatch]

If not talking about doll mats then yeah, drake event gave a bunch of skill mats and have like 20 rocks atm

[shell hazel]

gotta use them wisely

sync in Rumani like I said, we can probably use her

[placid bloom]

Centi, Anis, Rumani all need to go into synchro device.

you're missing Blanc so no Blanc team, but you at least have a Noah Biscuit team and a Jackal team

[elder hatch]

Normal anis right? I think she is in sync

[placid bloom]

if she is, I don't see her

[dire root]

Wow

[placid bloom]

but that should be 2 fast teams and 1 CP pad

[elder hatch]

I sorted for SSR nikkes

[shell hazel]

sort by power

I think it's the same though

[placid bloom]

problem is you're probably so far behind that all 3 teams can be CP padded though

[dire root]

2 out of 6 to frame.

[placid bloom]

[lunar pawn]

so both 2RL, but how low invested was your opp? guy couldn't even full burst

thanks btw, siren stun will still land right before B3 at 2RL

but not b2

[keen vapor]

[shell hazel]

you could run two teams like this and sort of auto the 3rd one

jackal could take b1 spot on your cp 3rd team

problem is uninvested units will likely tank your CP, not sure you could run these without background investments

Noah wants to be a bit tanky for P1 slot

noise for not being killed at P5 instantly as well, same with Rumani

for 3rd team just run with higher CP + jackal for B1 and hope for the best, you want the team to be able to burst at least

[upper zephyr]

@shell hazel

[shell hazel]

I'd highly recommend finishing off Helm treasure investment both for your PVP and PVE

HelmT is the best burst gen in the game and will be versatile in your pvp teams

[umbral belfry]

I'll finish helm off

[shell hazel]

you gotta wait for me first 😄

[umbral belfry]

[upper zephyr]

wanna hear something funny hippo?

[shell hazel]

sure 🙂

[upper zephyr]

so do you remember me saying that I still have yet to get RH on my whale account

after 1yr of playing

well i pulled her on my alt while pulling for siren then i pulled her on my main while doing the same

[shell hazel]

how many pulls you did in total?

challenge bit says I have 3500 pulls and only 1 RH so far, was the RH I had when I started lol

[upper zephyr]

err on my alt i went through all the gems and advanced tickets so i think about 300 pulls on my main i think it was only about 160

[shell hazel]

I mean total pulls done

it shows you in challenge bit

[upper zephyr]

4834 nikkes recruited

[shell hazel]

mine is 3556

[upper zephyr]

you done better then me, still no doro tho

[shell hazel]

got RH in first 100 though not seen since 😄

[keen vapor]

It counts friend pulls

[shell hazel]

honestly siren is better doro now anyway

yeah it does

[keen vapor]

Absolutely same

[upper zephyr]

i mean is there a better water b1 then doro atm or is she still the best

[shell hazel]

my friend who doesn't even use RH has like 3 copies and doesn't play that often

meanwhile I main RH on LB0 😄

maybe but not really key

[keen vapor]

She's the only B1 water

Milk does not exists

[upper zephyr]

oh yh milk even with the treasure isnt a good enough water b1

[shell hazel]

depends what you're doing but you mostly don't need water b1 anyway

[upper zephyr]

oh cool buying everything from the costume gacha is gonna cost less then £40

[shell hazel]

oh you're UK as well?

[upper zephyr]

yh

[shell hazel]

I had to go the last step as usual

and will likely have the same for mihara

[upper zephyr]

im usually last step on gacha as well

[shell hazel]

well so far I have not had anything before the last step and it's my 3rd gacha one

[fiery parcel]

Who should i cheer?

[lunar pawn]

left loses t1, wins t2, wins t3, wins t4, loses t5, as I see it

funny how he forgot to add a b1 to his t1 lol

mm unsure about t2 now

[warm monolith]

Whod win @tropic summit

[fiery parcel]

Team 2 should win, but can team 3 win?

Or should i move them around?

[tropic summit]

try first yourself then share what you think

[pale knoll]

[tropic summit]

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[shell hazel]

oh yeah I was going to try this one out as well

[tropic summit]

as a long time danganronpa fan, this one is a welcome addition

[shell hazel]

I also got expedition 33 to try out too

[tropic summit]

yeah that's on the list aswell, will take time but one day i'll get to it

there's a new rune factory coming out aswell in a month

only have 2 arms can't play all of these so fast

[sleek imp]

Who wins?****

My team 1 is just cp stack btw

[shell hazel]

time to clone yourself 😄

I posted my next matches earlier, I've tried to analyse them but as usual interested in your thoughts Railtracer-sama

save you scrolling

I'm bottom so def

[tropic summit]

shame on you for running 4RL bay

could've been a 5-0

[shell hazel]

I blame war criminal @spare brook

[tropic summit]

always that man, @spare brook

[warm monolith]

T1: Win
T2 lose prob cuz drake+viper no treasure
T3: Win scar swipe
T4: Win noah/biscuit against scar swipe
T5: Idk if emilia can hit through noah invulnerable on burst
I did it on pov of little mermaid profiled
@tropic summit

[crystal flicker]

Moran v 3 Iron DPS

[shell hazel]

fellow Mihara simp Lynkaster has so much faith he is blindly betting on me 😄

look this is the past, you didn't see nuthin

[spiral onyx]

Haha, Don said he cheered for me. This is my matchup analysis that I shared with him earlier:

• T1: Don win, 2RL Cindy > 2.5RL Scalter unless somehow my Blanc invulns Scalter in time
• T2: Keripo win, even if he kills my Noise, Rumani is my B1 backup
• T3: Don win, Scarlet Jackal hard counters SAnis
• T4: Keripo win, my Scarlet Jackal is 2RL with feed
• T5: Keripo win, my SGs will burn down his Rapunzel and he will be unable to burst
  So the final prediction is 3-2 win for Keripo

[shell hazel]

for real though, I was running out of usable units at that point, I think even getting to 4RL was about as good as I could do

and I'm running budget SR Anis elsewhere even 😄

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel stab him

[shell hazel]

one of those fake stabbing knives right? 😛

[tropic summit]

i'll let you choose

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/teletubbies-dipsy-running-away-scared-run-away-gif-25928776

[tropic summit]

oi @shell hazel

you've got explaining to do

[placid bloom]

you can always dig deeper for more units

I'm using Neon and Product 23

[shell hazel]

I feel like the best defence is a good offence

[placid bloom]

and it's won me some matches

[shell hazel]

Neko you are accused of murder

I rest my case

[tropic summit]

well hopefully in time for that new year's eve

[fiery parcel]

@tropic summit can help?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-hide-you-didnt-see-anything-penguins-of-madagascar-gif-15123878

they were so fast they were already there waiting I like it 😄

[tropic summit]

25% deficit on that T3, you're pushing your luck but may be worth a shot

[shell hazel]

nah for real though Neko was helping me out some, I think we deployed good teams, maybe next season we can improve even a bit more

but I was struggling to get a good RL on that last team

it has beaten some other really bad comps, so it's not the worst I could do

it's won against other comps that are even slower than 4RL 🙂

and if they put a good team at T5 it was always going to lose anyway

[tropic summit]

ye the reasoning is there

surely rumani will bless you soon

[shell hazel]

I sure hope so

I'm going to do 220 pulls on Mihara banner, maybe I'll get super lucky 🙂

I was going to stop at 180 for the rebate stuff but I need to do 200 for the gold mileage, and then I may as well just 220 for the extra 10 ssr doll mats

[fiery parcel]

This is one challenger less (ch4). If i can beat this team, i can try ch 1 after that

[sleek imp]

can someone give their opinion on whos winning? I just kinda wanna know if this is a good pick

[tropic summit]

that's way better in range, also easier

[fiery parcel]

Not sure about team 2? Since it's identical?

[tropic summit]

you need to use your noah cindy team against T2 and your scarlet team against T1

[fiery parcel]

And im not sure can win again siren stun

[tropic summit]

also move your cindy team like this:

noah rumani cind biscuit helm

cuz that biscuit in p1 is concerning

[fiery parcel]

Lol oops

Its supposed to be noah

Speaking of which, cindy should use resilience 11 for better CP bump or use bas 9?

In pvp?

[tropic summit]

resil or bastion same thing in these cases

just push your stats here

[fiery parcel]

For team 3 even though probably wont win, should i try sg team?

[tropic summit]

if you've bay go for 3RL with at least 1 clip and several non clip

[tropic summit]

enemy cindy in p1 will boost your RL burst gen of 1.75x

you'll just get stuck attacking rumani with SGs, you need to aoe and kill biscuit

then they can't burst

[fiery parcel]

So what do you recommend?

[tropic summit]

3RL aoe

[fiery parcel]

Ive got bay

[tropic summit]

i see an ein there

[fiery parcel]

But completely underdeveloped

[tropic summit]

w/e just 3RL ein with RLs

[tropic summit]

oh wow

well it's gonna tickle cuz unbuffed but worth a shot, go for it

maybe run anchor instead of bay:

anchor centi ein laplace noise

since you won't use bay at all there

[shell hazel]

close betting

also this is why I lack Rumani! 😦

[tropic summit]

shame on you

should hit more the gym

clearly would boost your odds

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-17596606390723064939

[fiery parcel]

Won t1 and t2. T3 burst first, but still got smacked

@tropic summit ch#1. What teams do you recommend?

[shell hazel]

don't try this without Rail approval but I think Cindy team into 3, skip 2, and scarlet team into 1

[crystal flicker]

How this happen

[fiery parcel]

SR15 doll anis sitting in t3

Im scared

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Nuke set off and Nuke everyone except Cindy, however Cindy still able to cast burst despite her ally is Nuked

[shell hazel]

SR-15 anis lol

[fiery parcel]

Im hesitant to.go against that team
Last time anis was last nikke standing after cindy full burst

[shell hazel]

what ya reckon @tropic summit ?

[placid bloom]

enemy team should be 2RL with quantum as well, you just don't have enough damage to one shot and kill after decoy resummon

[elder hatch]

thanks a lot, do the numbers and RL mean anything? also, any idea how much investment they need? just basic OL gear and r0 or r15 doll enough? ofc not including the widely used nikkes like naga and the pilgrims here

[shell hazel]

you'll need to check the CP that each team has to some degree

RL is speed of burst, roughly 1RL = 1 second

3RL is fairly standard burst speed. much slower risks not bursting before death

[crystal flicker]

P1 Win
P2 Probably lose, but on previous match against 3RL they actually able to cast Indom
P3 Lose
P4 Probably Win, though Idk if the feeds going to make their team able to cast Indom b4 Scarlet burst
P5 Win

[shell hazel]

for basic investment OL gear (basic OL is just initial + 5 and add a rock don't mald the rolls)

[crystal flicker]

It's hard

[shell hazel]

for units you want to invest in later start with blue dolls and +15 eventually, and then swap to SR-5 for most, if you really don't care you can straight into SR-0 but it's not recommended usually

units in P3/P4 are less liable to take damage and therefore you can do them last, units at P1/P5 are more in the firing line and should be upgraded first

[elder hatch]

i dont really have any sr dolls anyway so i'll start with r

[shell hazel]

for PVP units Chest + Boots gives the most survival

as usual still prioritise your campaign team mostly here, you want to push the campaign to get your outpost levels higher

crossover where pvp + pve investment does both is always good

[elder hatch]

also what about their skill levels? do i bring to 4/4/4 for starters?

[shell hazel]

treasure helm is well worth getting built for both

4/4/4 is good enough for units like Noah/Centi/Jackal etc

for now anyway

Treasure helm wants to start 10/4/4 but I am aiming for 10/10/10 on her in the end

[elder hatch]

Appreciate it. Working on my thelm as well, currently sr11 or 12 i think

[shell hazel]

for doll materials there is a logic to it, recommend vaguely following my plan

blue/purples are sort of interchangeable but you get way more blues than anything else

orange doll mats are rare and I'd only use between SR-6 to SR-10, or SR-11 to SR-15

don't use on SR-5 or SR-10

[elder hatch]

fair, thank you

[shell hazel]

10 orange mats on SR-5 is like 20% super success chance, at SR-6 it's 35%

so you almost double how good they are there for example

[elder hatch]

what are other good pvp nikkes i dont have? scarlet, blanc, right?

[shell hazel]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

filter for B1, B2, B3 etc, the highest burst gen is on the first row starting in order

will help you see what ones are best at least for burst gen capability

jackal/rumani are the two highest b1's

[elder hatch]

is the main goal to burst asap?

[shell hazel]

sort of, but in general at least to burst at all 😄

anyone not knowing how this works will auto a team, you can win with less power by having a better comp

[fiery parcel]

No scarlet?

[shell hazel]

also some units have special skills that really help, for example biscuit makes your defenders immune when they lose like 50% hp

[crystal flicker]

@tropic summit Wdyt about P4? Feels like the feed gonna cook me

[shell hazel]

Noah can shield you from an AOE nuke

jackal links with the two highest attackers to share damage, i.e. Scarlet/someone else

[elder hatch]

i realized i forgot to ask about their cubes, which ones to use and are they separate in pvp and pve now?

[shell hazel]

the cubes can be assigned separately now

give quantum to battery units like jackal/rumani/centi

give temperance to units like Noah who are on the front line in P1

give vigor to units like noise who scale on hp

give best resi/bastion to your core dps

[elder hatch]

thank you so much, off to start building the teams 🫡

[shell hazel]

np, but I reckon you may need to do some background building to get them ready without tanking your CP to hell

[fiery parcel]

No jackal for RL?

[elder hatch]

background building?

[shell hazel]

like keep your current higher cp teams

and build a unit out to get it near to your other unit cps to swap in

[elder hatch]

oh haha most likely

[shell hazel]

yeah 🙂

pvp has a 15.4% CP deficit penalty

[elder hatch]

im cooked on cp even with my strongest teams now 😦

[shell hazel]

if one team is 84.6% or less cp they take stat hits and will just die

so if a team is 100K and another team is 80K, it's going to lose badly no matter what units it has most likely

you can win at deficit but it's punishing

[elder hatch]

thats unfortunate

[fiery parcel]

Is the cp difference too big?

[shell hazel]

enemy cp * 0.846

is your floor cp without deficit

[keen vapor]

Nah, enemy CP - 15.4%

[mossy stirrup]

Any analyst for this cheer?

[keen vapor]

[shell hazel]

I miss the guy earlier who posted the same question but casually had nude mods and pepper/anis were just there naked

[keen vapor]

[midnight marsh]

😂 😂 😂

[fiery parcel]

How about now?

[shell hazel]

left is in deficit

[fiery parcel]

Yeah t2 is not winning. Planning to win t1 and t3

[shell hazel]

455K needed on right so that's fine

[shell hazel]

yeah that will be in range

[fiery parcel]

I should give it a shot?

Wish me luck. ill record the match

[shell hazel]

not my cook on this one but you can try and record it 🙂

[fiery parcel]

Cook is on fire

Now to see how long my stay at ch1 will last

[keen vapor]

Right
Left
... Left?
I'm going to guess Emilia has no optimized ammo so Left
..... Right
As long as Makima survives.... Dolless so maybe team is unable to burst

We need second opinion, specially for round 3

[fiery parcel]

Thanks for the help. Gonna head back to sleep now.

[keen vapor]

Checked Makima kit, indomitability is on skill 2 instead of Burst, so second team will be able to full burst and win

Can't believe Makima is seeing more usage than Rem

Is she gray?

[dire root]

Oh cool I didn't realize deck builder could do this, could have made deciding the other cheers much easier.

[summer copper]

just cheer for yourself

[lunar pawn]

awesome, thanks for the analysis, I do hope you win, I'm cheering for don for the unlucky frame

[keen vapor]

I have same problem

[mossy stirrup]

Thanks for the help

[keen vapor]

Right
We can't lose credits on bets now

[dire root]

Round 1 top
Round 2 bottom
Round 3 bottom
Round 4 unsure
Round 5 bottom

Correct?

[crystal flicker]

I hate this smell of losing from feeds

[dire root]

Does Soda bunny team wipe on burst?

[crystal flicker]

No

[dire root]

Yeah then idk who wins round 4

Rapunzel may take enough shotgun damage to stun lol

[crystal flicker]

Depend from investment

If Rosa invested enough, she'll Nuke both Queency and XLud

[warm monolith]

Is drake T worth it,i only have thelm but i invested all resources to little mermaid doll,tho i have mlb drake because of event,should i go for treasure

[keen vapor]

What are your doubts on round 4?

[crystal flicker]

Sure Rapunzel will rev, but at that point Tia also already die

[keen vapor]

What are you talking about, team is not even 4 RL

[dire root]

Well cup's investment is pretty bad, so I wasn't sure if with burst they would be able to kill them before quency could burst.

[crystal flicker]

Do you think 3RL ScarBS Jackal can catch up with 2RL Scarlet Trina Jackal Noir Pepper?

[keen vapor]

[crystal flicker]

That Rosa ain't gonna Nuke anything

[keen vapor]

Rosanna will get extra attack stack from Naga

But Soda damage will suck

But still more damage than enemy

[keen vapor]

2.5

[dire root]

I don't think it even comes down to round 4 anyways, easy CUP cheer.

[crystal flicker]

#pvp-arena message

This the chart

My next match actually fighting whale lmao

[keen vapor]

91% at 2RL.... Maybe it catches up

[lunar pawn]

been seeing siren stun landing before b3 in a 2RL team, anyone seen any different?

[crystal flicker]

2RL B3 is 3.16

[lunar pawn]

should be enough to stun scarlets in p1

[crystal flicker]

In CA, Siren stun is less than 3RL so yeah

[lunar pawn]

considering this, wouldn't keripo lose t4?

[crystal flicker]

At this point, my meme team is my dark horse if they can actually catch 2RL with 2 Sacc

[lunar pawn]

worth rearranging the team like this? anti siren, but will lose RH buff if not facing siren

scratch that, will always lose RH buff

still worth keeping in case someone tries to do a soda funni

[crystal flicker]

You don't really need RH tho

[lunar pawn]

she's cp pad ig, team is already 2RL

[fiery parcel]

Lasted 22 minutes

[crystal flicker]

Idk how big his feed to beat Siren B4 burst

[lunar pawn]

keripo's team will be 2RL no matter what

but laplace will burst

and don has makima who will just eat it

[placid bloom]

My Siren stun landed after my Helm burst kills someone from what I remember

[crystal flicker]

#pvp-arena message

[placid bloom]

I don’t know if it’s consistent enough to stop a B3, and there’s a decent chance she just dies to skill 2 counter

[crystal flicker]

3RL B1 is 3.32

[lunar pawn]

harder to rely on a counter kill at 2RL

specially if it's the b1

bumped trina s2 to lvl 10 and made the switch

[placid bloom]

It won’t necessarily be 2RL when she dies, she will keep shooting as B1 and B2 casts

[crystal flicker]

3.16 and 3.32 still a very close range though

[placid bloom]

The only thing that matters is that she dies before 50th bullet

[lunar pawn]

I mean, you only need to reach full gauge

and relying on counter rng isn't really a...counter

[placid bloom]

If the goal is to stop B3 she has to get to the stun regardless of B1 and B2 casting

[crystal flicker]

I also need that counter luck to make Blanc die B4 2RL

[lunar pawn]

ah true

[placid bloom]

Yeah it’s RNG but it can make or break the match

[lunar pawn]

would need a cracked scarlet to achieve that, I think

[placid bloom]

Keripo has 17 cs on all his RLs though so his team is not true 2RL, that gives an even smaller window for Siren to land 50 bullets

[lunar pawn]

slap tempering on siren for good measure

[placid bloom]

The chance he gets stopped is low

[crystal flicker]

My Scarlet pretty cracked

I really should make 1RL comp in CA lmao

[lunar pawn]

if 2RL b3 is 3.16RL and siren lands 50 shots before 3RL mark, then that's already good enough though, isn't it?

[lone sequoia]

scarlet S2 rng

with crits siren will die before the stun

[lunar pawn]

let's imagine scarlet rng doesn't work out

[placid bloom]

He should start bursting at closer to 1.65RL no?

His 2nd rocket lands faster

[lone sequoia]

the stun will land before 2RL b2

[lunar pawn]

seen rosannas without jackal link survive til full burst vs scarlets before in CA already

[lone sequoia]

but that is for 0cs units

[placid bloom]

The bullet count for SMG can’t get faster

[crystal flicker]

#pvp-arena message
From Keripo himself

[lone sequoia]

you have 2RL teams and faster 2RL teams, more actions with more cs

[placid bloom]

SMG will have the same fire rate but RL can land rocket at a faster timing

So it can’t catch up

[lunar pawn]

gotta see what keripo thinks later

[lone sequoia]

also, the fps fix made MG weaker against scarlet

if you use rosanna you have to pray for one of your SG dying early or use her with jackal

most people don't use SR15 or tempering in rosanna, bad for them

[crystal flicker]

That's why I use P23 with Rosa

May the Sacc cook

[lone sequoia]

time to wait for mihara

[fiery parcel]

Should i spend 100 gems and try to get 1st place again? Or not worth it. I am currently 2nd place in points ranking

Sorry 3rd

[loud sonnet]

Not worth it

[fiery parcel]

2nd place ranking guy is at 6th rank now

[raven sparrow]

I think i'm going with top here, but any thoughts on this?
Top should be attacker, bottom has slightly overall higher CP (3.2 vs 3.3)

bottom also has like... none of the treasures/favorite items really 💀

[loud sonnet]

Which rank you spent most of your days?

[placid bloom]

do you know he collected his points?

[fiery parcel]

Hanging around 5

[fiery parcel]

Should have just collected

[fiery parcel]

Today i got to first, but only for 22 minutes lol

[loud sonnet]

Ranking right now doesn't matter since its base on how long you've been holding that position and overall total points will determine the final ranking

[tropic summit]

oh that's a peculiar one, you'll win if blanc survives 2RL of scarlet s2, it's pure RNG, does she have purple doll and 4OL?

if so then you'll win as long as you hit indom, they'll feed you to 2RL, enemy team is likely 1.9RL, but you'll be in time for B2

[dire root]

lol I almost win this

[tropic summit]

it's the same as before, noah rumani cindy team against scarlet, scar-jack against their T1 (SBS)

[crystal flicker]

That's sad
Bcoz I'm the top/attacking

This might be where I lose, unless P2 can win the match or P3 can get promote to 2RL from sacc

I just watched previous match, 2RL SAnis vs 3RL, Blanc can cast Indom just in time
This one, RH will probably proc 2nd Biscuit invuln, so it'll only be 5sec and ScarBS will eat the dmg with Indom

[dire root]

What's the S mean?

[keen vapor]

Skill level 10

She has a skill that generates more burst energy

And I see no big difference with level 4

[vapid lake]

[dire root]

What happens when a noah team and a scarlet team have same RL? Is it just a coin flip? Actually never mind I just saw jackal, scarlet wins.

[lone sequoia]

depends in the real speed of the teams

[lusty pelican]

hi doods may i ask for this one? 🙏

[crystal flicker]

I havent check the gen tho

[lusty pelican]

alrighty thanks 🙏

[crystal flicker]

The sacc is worked, promote to 2RL but Rosa Nuke isn't hard enough due to Noise + Rapu heal

[lone sequoia]

you can't oneshot with 1 rosanna proc against noise burst, unless crit or low skills in noise or water unit (need ele dmg)

[crystal flicker]

Blanc die b4 Indom

2RL SAnis vs 3RL Blanc

I might able to get this 1

[crystal flicker]

Considering this, It might be
W/L
Depend if Blanc can cast Indom
L/W, promoted to 2RL, but Rosa will nuke HelmT and Drake, Cindy still able to burst
Depend if the feeds can promote to 2RL
W/L

[umbral crown]

@polar echo

@keen vapor

Guess my cp

[keen vapor]

no

[fiery parcel]

Sorry just saw this, but already won using @faint sphinx team. But got to top for 22 minutes, and lost back to challenger 4

[umbral crown]

give some numbers

[keen vapor]

1.95

[umbral crown]

also echo, i won against the first CA winner in the ss above, now im in top 16

[umbral crown]

close, 1.966

now nero team is 670k

[crystal flicker]

Do you have pic of T2 Top and T5 Bot?

[keen vapor]

Fiuf

[keen vapor]

Next champion

[umbral crown]

thats the hope

[crystal flicker]

PvP Chef actually winning CA

[umbral crown]

was about time

i have the rng in my favor, against that boi i was defending and the current boi gonna fight in top 16 im attacking which helps me a lot

[umbral crown]

34k away from 2m, doing some stonks these days

[raven sparrow]

oh sure, you mean like... the umm... their cp scores etc?

[umbral crown]

just better luck in lines or dupes

[crystal flicker]

Their CP yes

[raven sparrow]

this is also T2 bot and T5 top (on second set for comparison)

[crystal flicker]

T2 Top win if Viper survive, T5 Bot win if HelmT burst Emi

[raven sparrow]

do oyu think t5 will get their burst in time? 2 vs 3 rl

i have no clue what emilia does since her collab was before i started, most people in the champion arena group dont have her lol (and none in my own groups) so that must be the absolute bare minimum oldest in this champion arena grouping (so ive never bothered worrying about her or looking her up XD)

[crystal flicker]

T5 is dead, HelmT will burst RH and they don't have B1

[raven sparrow]

ahh i was confused by your statement

did you mean top win? top is the one with helm

[crystal flicker]

Mb

[raven sparrow]

ahh ok i was confused lol, all good thank you

got it

overall i was thinking top wins as well but i was unsure about fights 1 and 3, since im not really familiar with moran teams (3)

on paper it looks like top but... is moran supposed to delay there and win in a long fight?

[crystal flicker]

L/W Drake burst Noah, Noah get Rev and Cindy burst wipe
W/L Crown should die b4 anything
W/L 2RL
L/W 2RL
W/L HelmT burst RH, B1 Gone

Scarlet will only Nuke the rest and they're gone

[raven sparrow]

i see lol

thank you for the insight 🙇‍♂️

[oak gale]

someone here was saying i needed maid anchor who was it again
whoever it is i just got her 💀

[crystal flicker]

You need MAnchor to clear 36 Boss

[swift mango]

[rustic sandal]

Hey folks.

Was hoping you smart people might be able to help me sort out my pvp teams.

I'm hoping for special arena defense teams.

And 3 "set, forget, and if I start losing in the future, fine, happens, but I don't have the desire to tinker with each line every time and just want 3 lines i can slide around that might scoop a W here and there." Special arena offensive teams!

Just to give some power level gradiant here;

Alice is at 147k.
RedRapi 125k
Bunny soda 100k
Ein his 87k

And it's basically a free fall of power from there with

Biscuit/Jackal around 64k

Thank you

[oak gale]

i think , im not sure what she does yet tho, all im gonna say is that i got like 3 noahs just this siren banner and each time i would think i got a pilgrim 💀

[swift mango]

So which one you won?

[swift mango]

So you won 5th, nice.

[crystal flicker]

Next match is ass tho

[pale knoll]

[swift mango]

okay I think it's wrong match up that I remember.

[keen vapor]

Anchooooooor 😭 why you don't come home

Invest biscuit and jackal we cannot "not use" them!

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

He runaway

[oak gale]

ill give anchor if someone will prevent noah from hunting me down 💀 she baited me like 2-3 times this anniversary , showing eme pilgrim thinking its siren or redhood or crown and i get noah in my face

[swift mango]

I think I could go next CA without a biscuit.

[rustic sandal]

100%. I get that. I'll still be slotting them but I'm happy to invest in whatever nikkes end up in the lineups suggested

Sorry. I moved that post to the original so it was all together

[oak gale]

@keen vapor @crystal flicker look at this 💀

[keen vapor]

:deadge:

[keen vapor]

Even Noah uninvested

[rustic sandal]

I've been in a special arena bracket for literally a whole year where this mess shoved into random spots got me 1st or 2nd every single time

Wasn't until this last reshuffle that I've gotten into an actual special group that feels like it's real people. I'm sitting at 9th with nonsense.

So I've been able to just sort of ignore investing pvp until now lol

[keen vapor]

Scarlet uninvested, it's dorover

Suggestion, wishlist Trina

[rustic sandal]

Trina and Mana are on my wishlist hitlist

You give me names, I'll boost those names right away. I'm sitting on a stash that could take about 5 of these to full overload 10/10/10

Biscuit, Jackal, Noah, Scarlet

[keen vapor]

Scarlet Alter/Blanc/Liter/centi/jackal

[keen vapor]

Wait, don't try to invest centi/jackal skills

Neither Blanc, we only want her burst, level 7 is enough

[swift mango]

Scarlet to 101010 Sr5-15. Go.

[rustic sandal]

Scarlet alter = sbs or the drunken katana hat Scarlet? Sorry, don't know all the names/terms yet.

[keen vapor]

SBS

She looks evil, that's why I call her alter
-# He doesn't knows a thing about Fate Grand Order

[rustic sandal]

Sbs 10/7/10 now, with full OL. I'll need some reroll work, but she's ready to go.

[rustic sandal]

Regular scarlet?

[swift mango]

She is Aren meta since day one.

[rustic sandal]

Done.

Brb maxing her

Done. I'll sort out OL rerolls myself, so don't sweat that

[keen vapor]

Noise/Noah/Cinderella/Helm/Rumani

[rustic sandal]

On it. Slotting as defense 1. Ty.

[keen vapor]

Noise burst level 7
Noah no need to invest skills
Neither Rumani

Mainly focus on pad their CP with overload lines

[keen vapor]

We have 2 teams so far....

[rustic sandal]

Done!

Both in cheers.

[rustic sandal]

Alright. Noise burst at 7! Still have decent skill1 and skill2 mats left. Can take maybe 1 more fresh nikke skill3 to 7.

Appreciate you help BTW. Thank you

[crystal flicker]

Rosanna

I thought you're Rosaless lmao

She's sitting duck at the bottom

[keen vapor]

Last team

SBS will make the team faster

So you can also use normal Scarlet on Blanc team and the other one here

[rustic sandal]

If i slot sbs here, which would she replace?

[keen vapor]

Red Hood

[crystal flicker]

MANchor

[keen vapor]

[rustic sandal]

Noise / Noah / Cindy / Helm / Rumani

Scarlet / Blanc / Liter / Centi / Jackal

Moran / MANchor / SBS / Biscuit / Anis

[oblique ridge]

Thoughts? Top Attackers vs Bottom Defenders.

I am thinking Noah's dead before Bottom can burst.

But Top won't be killing or stopping Cinderella from bursting?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[crystal flicker]

He has SAnis too

That's what I run for CA, 4RL SAnis with Bis and Moran lmao

[rustic sandal]

I'm only missing a few limited (neir ladies, robot, epinel), mana, Trina. Snow white, hornpriestess

[keen vapor]

Noah wins

[crystal flicker]

Bot 2RL

[oblique ridge]

Oh

That does make it very hard to kill Noah fast enough

Okay, Noah wins

[keen vapor]

One thing is CA, another is SP

At the moment, Summer Anis is less invested

[drowsy frost]

can i get team build help for PVP?

[rustic sandal]

My missing. Everything else is a go

[rustic sandal]

If this comment was directed to my line possibilities (not sure if so), my sanis is one of my better invested. My normal anis is untouched.

[oblique ridge]

More thoughts? Top Attackers vs Bottom Defenders again.

Bottom's Scarlet crashing into Noah

Hopeless?

[quick lake]

Top Noah wins

[oblique ridge]

Noah laughing behind her shield all day

[crystal flicker]

That's 2RL too if invested enough

It's 2RL

[placid bloom]

Noah CP 2nd highest even with blue doll

[crystal flicker]

Cracked OL

4x Black CS

[swift mango]

Top probably could kill Noah and lost to Cindy wipe

[oblique ridge]

Again, this is their team 3

And this is their team 1.

Confirmed these are probably 3RL vs 3RL

I saved the most confusing two for last

[swift mango]

max core but zero investment Emi.

[oblique ridge]

Battery Emilia life

[swift mango]

zero investment rapu as well...

[raven plover]

non 21 emi

[oblique ridge]

These teams are these contestants' btw SkyJlv loses team 5 for running a slow Biscuit protected team into Scarlet Jackal.

Group 1 if you happen to be in their CA server.

[swift mango]

why no show combat power of bottom though?

[oblique ridge]

So going into the final two teams I shared, it's 2 judged in Zlab's favor, 1 judged in Sky's favor

I did?

[swift mango]

my bad

[oblique ridge]

Gotta tap image to expand. Though it showed combat power on my end in preview

[raven plover]

sky said "I love pvp" hes gonna win trust

[swift mango]

Bottom is a bit better but both use uninvested unit.

Top is "I love Arena" 0%.

Bottom is "I love arena" 5%

[crystal flicker]

It's though, but maybe the spread is hard enough

[oblique ridge]

Since we have 2 called in Zlab's favor, I'm thinking of swapping cheer to Zlab because he only needs to win one of the confusing ones

[crystal flicker]

This one Bottom
Ein might die > Rapun Rev > Blanc Indom > Wipe 0 invest Moran

[oblique ridge]

I believe he can win the team 3 one if Blanc dies, gets rezzed by Mana, then the SGs kill Blanc again, but Rapunzel rezzes Blanc, then Blanc indoms BS Scarlet, then BS Scarlet murders them all

And the story is still the same if the SGs intead kill Mana after killing Blanc

Though there's a risk Blanc indoms Mana

But that's okay because Defending SGs go Right to Left. BS Scarlet remains protected and only has to survive Siren and Anne - while healed by Rapunzel, Mana, and Blanc.

... Siren stun tho

[crystal flicker]

Why care about Blanc tho, Rapun might die from 0 invest

[swift mango]

I think bottom win 3/4 of what you show thou but oh well.

[oblique ridge]

I'm going to call this one in favor of bottom because of Siren stun. It'll mess with BS Scarlet and let B Soda or DrakeTr burst nuke first in the chaos. If B Soda is nuking, it's a victory. Anne will res her.

So team 1 deciding battle

[crystal flicker]

The pattern for Rapun is
ScarBS/Emi die > Rapun rev > Soda Drop Nuke there > Blanc

[oblique ridge]

(Bottom is defending in this case so the SGs are going after Blanc)

[quick lake]

I think top SBS wins

assuming top is defending

[oblique ridge]

Top Atk, Bot Def

[crystal flicker]

Soda still drop Nuke between Rapunzel and Blanc

[swift mango]

This team 3, SBS will be stun, and uninvested Emi will burst, hope top could wall the right unit with blanc then, provided Rapu isn't killed before they could burst....

[oblique ridge]

What can kill Rapu though?

[swift mango]

Normal attack after Blanc, Mana ded.

[oblique ridge]

That's savage

RIP Top if they're slaughtered

[swift mango]

I don't see SBS died with Max core, doll and only Siren+zero invested xanne attacking her..... Emi probably died before her... But Rapu probably Rev Mana anyway... Mana would revive Blanc...

[swift mango]

Now that I think about it, top could win with good chance provided the last match up you didn't show 100% top win..

[oblique ridge]

The unseen team 5. Top Atk, Bot Def.

[brazen salmon]

Can help me form SP Arena team?
Requirements:

• at least 2 team 2RL with strong survivability

My Units:
1)SBS
2)Cinderella
3)Red hood
4)scarlet
5)noise
6)biscuit
7)rumani
8)jackal
9)trina
10)maiden ice rose
11)centi
12)regular anis
13)noah
14)siren
15)helm (no helm pending to redeem?)
16)maid anchor
17)blanc
18)rapi red hood
19)moran

[crystal flicker]

Do you think I can win any of these match?

[crystal flicker]

2RL win, unless that ScarBS

[oblique ridge]

Yeah, most likely 2RL Scarlet

Trina will keep units healed even if Moran survives the AoE nuke

Scarlet should be able to outlast

[swift mango]

you are top?

[crystal flicker]

Yes

[swift mango]

You have a a chance at

P3, killing Noise before she burst,

P2, somehow or another Indom landed on SBS or RH and they bursted 3....

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Trina RH Anis Jackal
Noah Centi Cindy Rumani XMaiden (Can't use Noise unless you have HelmT)

[swift mango]

Scar team is 100% lose

[crystal flicker]

#pvp-arena message
This their record for 2RL SAnis vs 3RL Blanc last match

[oblique ridge]

I want to revise this call. I just realized Red Hood will be shooting Rumani since it's an attacking team's sniper.

Ein will survive Viper long enough (or get rezzed). Rumani will survive the solo Red Hood shooting her.

Moran is bursting, not Red Hood. So no massive team ATK buff.

Grave is bursting, but Blanc will burst too.

It's basically GG as Ein nukes team while Red Hood tries to B3 kill Rumani then X Maiden.

If Rumani receives Indom, then this is unkillable by Red Hood and team will win.

If Ein receives Indom, then it's more confusing but Ein may still kill everyone. Because RH team has no heals aside from Moran selfbuffing.

[crystal flicker]

Tbh he's pretty stacked lol

[brazen salmon]

3rd one? it's ok if 2.5RL or 3RL assuming no helm

[crystal flicker]

You need more clip RL / Clip SG to reach that

Something like Drake, BSoda, Sugar, Noir, etc

[brazen salmon]

i see, currently still early game only 292 synchro might build them in future

[crystal flicker]

You should have tho

Esp Treasuring Helm

[brazen salmon]

yea but i kind of want to focus on a unit that usable in both pve & pvp first

cant get helm since the time i started to play and shes on my synchro slot, thinking to redeem her in gold milleage shop and 2x fav season spare body if needed

[crystal flicker]

She is usable everywhere

You even need her + MAnhor for 36 boss

[brazen salmon]

yeah guess i exchange her after i hoard enough collection mats

[brittle oasis]

Wait, u can exchange her spare body with silver milleage, dont use gold milleage

[brazen salmon]

yeah i know, i lack the original body also

[crystal flicker]

You can use her raw Treasure if you only need gen for PvP

[brazen salmon]

yeah, guess i need prepare enough mats for sr15 first

how many fav item mats to unlock stage 1 btw

[crystal flicker]

Drake event gave you tons of doll mats lmao

0 for stage 1

[brazen salmon]

i spent all on siren

[crystal flicker]

I got TDrake and halfway Lap+

[brazen salmon]

mine drake event still lvl33 ish

[crystal flicker]

Tbf I spent some gems to buy level lol

[brazen salmon]

i might do so, see how it goes after solo raid

currently still stuck on black snake boss no good water unit haha

[deep summit]

Can I get some help making my defence teams for SP arena please?

[onyx scaffold]

bruh. my only b1 got stunned

[crystal flicker]

Ironically making the Nuke stronger lmao

[swift mango]

Now that I look at it again you probably lose.

[crystal flicker]

Why though
Blanc might gave ScarBS indom

like what happened on their last match

[swift mango]

Then you will have to place Biscuit Noah and hope biscuit wasted one of her strike on Anis or Rumani and your SBS/RH could win with 3-5 second left of dmg window or Sth...

[crystal flicker]

Surely RH gonna tickle Anis to 50%

[swift mango]

Just pray

[crystal flicker]

P3 is 2RL tho

Oh ye that one is shit coz they have 2 Attacker lol

This guy might can see the future

[raven plover]

redhood

[swift mango]

Normal 5 SG team would be able to won it easily, but you're not that team.

[swift mango]

Rossana would hit Cindy decoy anyway.

[crystal flicker]

I just got TDrake yesterday

Next CA I'll have fully invested

[swift mango]

Darn it would be long time before I get there.

Congratz

[crystal flicker]

Scar 2RL
Cindy 2RL
SG Comp
Rossacc
ScarBS/SAnis

[umbral crown]

im not gonna get there

[crystal flicker]

Since D1, my cheer always been under 20%

[umbral belfry]

any help on deciding who wins this? both t1 are so 💀 that I can't tell

[swift mango]

Now that I think about it you don't have RH might not be bad at all.... Rapu is more important for CA now.... Siren could replace RH as B1 easily.

[umbral crown]

was thinking about that tbh, to use siren next CA

[swift mango]

Moran, Rapu, Noise, Siren are 4 already... You also have XMica and Pepper around.

[umbral crown]

yeah, siren just needs OL and some skill investment

[swift mango]

How?

[umbral crown]

gems

i finished that pass before CA started

[umbral crown]

how you thik i did 3 SR15 in one night

[simple flower]

Guys
who would win here
At first I thought Kent would win

but now i'm having doubts

[swift mango]

Luck?

[umbral crown]

probably

its was a sigm

did Scarlet,Noise and Jackal

[fiery parcel]

Zzzzzzz

[crystal flicker]

Low invest PvP Nikke

[deep summit]

it's a work in progress

[hushed kelp]

How quickly is siren stunning in CA?

[swift mango]

Bottom probably win 1 and 4. So they only need to win one of the other 3 to finish... I would vote for bottom