#pvp-arena

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crystal flicker
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P1 P4 P5 win?
P2 Cant reach 2RL to give ScarBS indom (94.65 at 2.5)
P3 Jackaless Scarlet gonna die from Rosacc + Rosa Nuke?

warm monolith
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How come?

tropic summit
tropic summit
lunar pawn
crystal flicker
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w/o Jackal, Scarlet has low feeds?

warm monolith
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TyTimiBlush

keen vapor
tropic summit
crystal flicker
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So he might reach 2.5

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Rosa still nuke her at 2.5, with Mana
It'll be Rapun revive game

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He has Noise P5 tho

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Kinda worried about P1 if they die from Iron b4 burst

whole pawn
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thisis my first time cheering can someone help?

keen vapor
whole pawn
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i need to ss and attach hold on

crystal flicker
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@tropic summit is this just Cindy atk RNG pepehmmm

tropic summit
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but ye investiment difference aswell likely

whole pawn
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how du u guys out all ss in one picture, trying to put both players teams

keen vapor
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I'm not good at editing

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-# He doesn't even try, how do you know you aren't good at it

keen vapor
whole pawn
crystal flicker
grand plaza
crystal flicker
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Jackal

grand plaza
dire root
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I went from rank 20 in rookie to rank number 1 in like 4 days, what breaking wall does to account.

crystal flicker
# whole pawn

W/L
Depends on who's right Blanc cast her Indom
L/W
W/L
W/L

swift mango
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Team right 5 is 100% lose. But team right 2 can win pretty easily if SBS died before she burst.

crystal flicker
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I realized CA Champion using this frame instead of the Gold with "Qualify for Finals"
Does that mean there will be another "Final" for CA Champions?

whole pawn
swift mango
swift mango
crystal flicker
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Ohh

crystal flicker
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This Global CA rank

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That top guy just cheering himself and win both frames lol

swift mango
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Also, congratulations @lusty gull

whole pawn
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all or nothing

upper grove
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@tropic summit your cooking helped me get to t32, likely t16 as well. but if I match vs the better setup (most likely) in top 8 I'll lose because my Cindy matches vs their Noah, my 3RL indom vs their 2RL scar nuke and my noah stall team vs indom sbs sadge

calm gull
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how is that lv216 won CA CrownHUH

swift mango
calm gull
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meanwhile my bracket, I'm always the lowest SirenHuh

swift mango
calm gull
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that can also be the case

swift mango
calm gull
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right SirenHuh

swift mango
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Nvm my bad, Team 2 left RH if went 5-4-3-2-1 could win pretty easily...

green swallow
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can someone help me make 3 good defence teams plz i have every nikke except bready and crust
tired of climbing up just to get wacked down like 30 ranks

keen vapor
green swallow
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ok thx

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i have rumani but shes not rly built at all

keen vapor
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See madge

green swallow
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ykw its easier if i just show whos built

keen vapor
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Seeee?! Angy

green swallow
keen vapor
green swallow
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huh

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no ive had that for awhile....

keen vapor
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.... That's not a good sign PepperDed

green swallow
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but yeah i mainly invest into pve stuffs like ur and sr
dont rly build pvp only

keen vapor
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It means level diff of one hundred levels issue

green swallow
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the no 1 in my bracket is like sync 490 yea
but top 10-30 ranges from like 440-480

keen vapor
green swallow
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nvm its 545 at no 1

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but i dont rly care for no 1 just want like easy top 60 for 1600 gems

umbral crown
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@swift mango doing fine in CA?

umbral crown
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But why, 441 should be ez

swift mango
umbral crown
swift mango
keen vapor
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401 hasn't changed

swift mango
umbral crown
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I did a yolo team and won against noise/Noah/Cindy/Laplace/X.Maiden

keen vapor
umbral crown
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Nope, just 2 SG in team. Viper and Pepper

swift mango
umbral crown
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Peppee just have 4 ol and skills ar 4

umbral crown
keen vapor
# keen vapor

Matches probably go better on 410 I guess but.... Idk

umbral crown
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Video was really funny

glacial lion
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PepeTF w l w w w ?

umbral crown
keen vapor
# green swallow

Ok so, Emilia unusable.... Crown as well? whyyy what are you investing on?

keen vapor
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Didn't recorded new vid

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You have my blabla

umbral crown
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But your cp looks low

umbral crown
keen vapor
green swallow
keen vapor
shell hazel
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I won so top 32, was busy with rl stuff until now

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@umbral belfry @tropic summit how you guys do?

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also @spare brook

placid bloom
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does decoy make Cinderella burst target other chars first?

umbral crown
keen vapor
keen vapor
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I know it's true

swift mango
umbral crown
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Your emi 1 buffed just removed their cover

umbral crown
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Now im gonna face the paat winner

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Im confident i can win unless rng shows its hand

swift mango
keen vapor
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Wait no, understood it the other way

umbral crown
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I still have not made 5-0 but one day

keen vapor
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Decoy won't affect Cinderella burst targeting

placid bloom
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hmm

umbral belfry
swift mango
placid bloom
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I guess my opponent's decoy was just too tanky then

umbral crown
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The funny thing was my scar trina one shot a noise noah cindy team

strange rain
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Is this a win?

keen vapor
placid bloom
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nah that wasn't the issue

swift mango
placid bloom
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I was doing 2RL Cindy Siren into 3RL Cindy Noah Biscuit, my Siren stunned his Noah so I assumed I'd wipe everything except Noah

umbral crown
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I only use trina in CA since no cp issues

placid bloom
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but his Cinderella was full HP and managed to cast burst

keen vapor
umbral crown
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Its like all or nothing bursting with her

placid bloom
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Idk if his Noah soaked the remaining hits or his decoy just too tanky

umbral crown
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I love to see my teams at 762, 721 and 730 at lv400 in CA, imagining it could be in SP

swift mango
restive willow
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bruh (stolen from KR)

placid bloom
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it's weird because it's supposed to evenly distribute 2 hits per char but I guess it's just 10 hits random

swift mango
umbral crown
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Are we in the Stun era?

swift mango
keen vapor
placid bloom
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he scammed himself TimiProud

umbral crown
shell hazel
restive willow
swift mango
umbral crown
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Yeah

restive willow
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Does the empty slot get shifted?

umbral crown
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Giving us more ways to enjoy

umbral belfry
swift mango
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Guess my Miranda won't be in next season. ShiftyDed

keen vapor
swift mango
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1+ month of doll mats and a bunch of skill books wasted.

restive willow
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only in CA? I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way in rookie at least

swift mango
umbral crown
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I may add siren next season in yolo team

umbral belfry
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My t2 is also blanc sbs @ noah bisc but noise is p1 Think but I think I still lose that matchup

umbral crown
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Better than nothing, could stop scar jack agsinst that team

placid bloom
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is 2RL Siren Privaty perma stun viable pepehmmm

umbral crown
umbral belfry
swift mango
shell hazel
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I think I lose 1, I might lose 2, should win 3/4, 5 possibly just clinch with heals and such

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but 2RL cindy / noah into 3RL cindy / noah 😄

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risky

placid bloom
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your Pepper might get indom on 2 from Scarlet counter

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so that's no good

shell hazel
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maybe, my SBS did get it on the last match at least so somewhat working

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pepper is a bit of a cope as I lack a rumani to sit there

placid bloom
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Cinderella too slow yeah still get caught by 3RL Noah unfortunately hmmz

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it's gonna need some luck

shell hazel
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uploaded matches at least it's just one set this time, they need to allow play all

restive willow
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@coarse lake I'm betting on you >:)
i didn't make it because i calculated wrong and my soda didn't get jackal link lol

keen vapor
tropic summit
tropic summit
tropic summit
upper grove
tropic summit
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especially considering 3 out of 5 teams are fighting their counters

shell hazel
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what do you make of my matchups?

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i'm top/attacker, I know t1 is deadge

tropic summit
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i think the P3 will be the decisive one

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in general i've seen slow cindy win against faster cindy

upper grove
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if 5 SG nuke P5, it's basically instant right?

placid bloom
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3RL Noah should catch 2RL Cindy in time, it just won't catch every hit

tropic summit
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@swift mango what was the logic in slower cindy winning against faster cindy again? buff length?

shell hazel
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yeah that was my concern was my quicker cindy/noah is a negative when they have 3RL

placid bloom
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so it's RNG on which hits land before Noah invin goes live

shell hazel
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my noah bursts too early

lone sequoia
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you get better buff in slower teams

tropic summit
lone sequoia
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the thing is both teams have noah, so still 50/50 and the match will depend in invest

swift mango
tropic summit
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oh the decoy gimmick

shell hazel
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their laplace isn't treasured

tropic summit
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makes sense NovelHmm

shell hazel
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at least

placid bloom
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both of the bursts aren't lethal

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but you might sneak a hit in

deft pelican
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Can someone help me counter this

neon viper
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Need help to beat this team (Round 1-3 from top to bottom)
2nd and 3rd pics are my units

lone sequoia
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scarlet/trina /rh wins

placid bloom
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just not enough under Noise buff

coarse lake
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Odds on me winning isn't very good

upper grove
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I'm top, should win this, their team 2 it's only Noise who should die, my soda has 2 ele and 3 atk or sth

shell hazel
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I posted le vids

upper grove
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rosanna cannot nuke my scarlet in match 4 right?

placid bloom
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though if you're lucky, the hit you sneak in is on Helm and she probably dies even with Noise buff

shell hazel
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this is how the invest looks, their helm at least p1 treasure but not maxed either

tropic summit
swift mango
tropic summit
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got anything decent in the end?

placid bloom
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0 DR on Laplace

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so Laplace and Helm have a chance to die

swift mango
placid bloom
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then it'll just be normal slugfest

shell hazel
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if I can get a couple of Miharas in 180-200 pulls then I can mlb both her and siren

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not impossible pepehmmm

crystal flicker
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Ppl spending their money in Siren banner

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Watch Mihara become "Meta Changing" Nikke lmao

swift mango
crystal flicker
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Lemme scroll

tropic summit
swift mango
swift mango
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As you should be. pain

upper grove
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mihara won't power creep rapi, probably side grade pepehmmm

crystal flicker
lone sequoia
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but this is a pvp channel, sacc is more interesting

upper grove
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yeah the sacc is worth considering

crystal flicker
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I might kill their Noise if I use Vigor lmao

swift mango
crystal flicker
upper grove
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I just noticed the guy I'm up against this round is my ch 1 KEKL

neon viper
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Please, I need help to beat these teams MaplemaCRY

crystal flicker
keen vapor
neon viper
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yeah 2nd isn't a problem, 1 and 3 I can't beat

keen vapor
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A

lunar pawn
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last team with noah+biscuit you cancel their RH lol
or just nuke faster than they can b2 with blanc

swift mango
neon viper
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I don't have Emi or Miranda treasure MaplemaCRY

swift mango
upper grove
swift mango
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Should beat that 2rl Cindy just fine.

lunar pawn
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why are people using bsoda as nuke in CA? did I miss something

crystal flicker
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SG comp

lunar pawn
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can't they use maid priv? stronger nuke

placid bloom
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Maid Priv isn't clip so the team is probably slower

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the only other clip option would be Maiden

lunar pawn
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but doesn't bsoda nuke tickle in pvp?

neon viper
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would this work?

placid bloom
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yeah you're really hoping you just gun them down with normals before then

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if you can take out 1 char or two and it's RLs they might drop in burst speed

lunar pawn
placid bloom
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so even though your burst is worse you will just hit harder earlier

lunar pawn
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skip t1, don't waste your good nikkes there

upper grove
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soda 4 ele should hurt electric meta at least pain

placid bloom
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she would mainly one-shot SAnis and Biscuit if you have enough ele dmg, too slow for Scar Trina

lunar pawn
# neon viper would this work?

since you're 500+, non f2p, and didn't show roster, I'll assume you have everything (except emi)

t1 skip
t2 scarlet centi rapunzel anis jackal
t3 noah biscuit cindy siren Thelm

placid bloom
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the other elec are too tanky

neon viper
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I don't have Trina or Rumani as well

lunar pawn
lunar pawn
neon viper
lunar pawn
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s1 maxed?

neon viper
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yes

neon viper
lunar pawn
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right

placid bloom
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their team 3 is single target, you can just wall RH and Helm forever with Biscuit tank and as long as Siren stuns Blanc their team has no protection

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don't even need a super fast team

crystal flicker
neon viper
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I was saving up for 4 copies of Siren but actually got them early

crystal flicker
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I believe you have tons of mileage

neon viper
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180

placid bloom
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no you want AoE because they are also on Biscuit

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but you just need to one shot everyone except Blanc, who will be under Biscuit invin

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while your own Biscuit shuts down their team

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and Siren stuns their Blanc so she does nothing

crystal flicker
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Anyway you better pray for them to spook in MiharaOS / Standard wishlist

lunar pawn
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I'll be honest, I didn't check RL

placid bloom
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doesn't matter, it's literally unlosable lol

neon viper
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T2 lost nyxieCry

placid bloom
lunar pawn
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recorded?

placid bloom
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bro that team is like 10RL Emma or some crap

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with some dps

lunar pawn
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scarlet+jackal go to town with that feed

neon viper
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I'll try again

crystal flicker
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Deficit pepehmmm

lunar pawn
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don't try again, what's your investment on those units?

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didn't see any dolls on some of the key pvp units like jackal

placid bloom
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is their Naga and SAnis really just slamming your p5 pepehmmm

neon viper
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I'm out of materials for the dolls

lunar pawn
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I'm here thinking he's going with full t9m gear

crystal flicker
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The only way to lose T2 is from deficit and slower team

neon viper
placid bloom
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you can't get any slower, he is literally Naga mag SG and SAnis clip SG, nothing else has any sort of burst gen

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his Scarlet isn't even getting counters cuz it's p3

lunar pawn
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always divide your cp by their cp, and if the number is lower than 0.846, then you're under cp penalty

crystal flicker
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Where's Blanc in Scar comp

placid bloom
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all 4 of those have no doll

lunar pawn
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think your case is like 0.80

placid bloom
lunar pawn
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he doesn't need blanc, that team wipes already, but not under penalty lol

crystal flicker
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Yeh, Emma SAnis Crown just die from counter

lunar pawn
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lvl 500+ whale never had to worry about pvp, now they're discovering things they never dreamed of whyyy

neon viper
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no, I was able to beat this guy before today. but with different teams

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he just changed lineups all of a sudden and now I can't beat him.
I have nothing but pure hatred for this guy because he always aims for my spot in pvp

crystal flicker
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Replace Anis with Blanc and see how much CP you have

placid bloom
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you can probably beat him just by swapping Anis with RH or something

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maybe swap Rapunzel for CP pad too

lunar pawn
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I mean, you need to work on your pvp units a bit more, and Idk your defense, but gotta step up your game, else he'll keep bullying you

crystal flicker
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His Blanc maxed SR15

lunar pawn
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while everyone else naked

neon viper
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0.93 if I use Blanc instead of Anis

lunar pawn
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yea, centi out, blanc in

placid bloom
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Blanc probably don't work, SAnis shooting multiple char

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hard to say who's getting indom

lunar pawn
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he doesn't need indom, just scarlet nuke and he wins

neon viper
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Centi and not Anis out?

placid bloom
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get rid of Anis

lunar pawn
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that t2 has 0 survivability

crystal flicker
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Anis just dead

lunar pawn
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oh yea, anis out, put centi in her place, and blanc where centi was

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so scarlet blanc rapunzel centi jackal

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check cp

crystal flicker
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SAnis S2 prior highest atk

neon viper
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I won! thank you very much!

lunar pawn
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what's your current defense? just curious

neon viper
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...
I just copied the atk team you guys gave just now

placid bloom
neon viper
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but before, I think it was
scarlet/xanne/pepper/Scalter/jackal
noise/noah/SAnis/drake/
blanc/rh/biscuit/centi/noir

I forgot what that last one in T2 was, but not Anis
(I have things typed in a notepad file)

placid bloom
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I don't see Helm on any of those 3 team pepehmmm

lusty pelican
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may i ask for this one oo?

neon viper
crystal flicker
lusty pelican
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is he pro pvper or something oo

lone sequoia
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CA is rng, set your teams and pray

lunar pawn
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so far thinking tech wins t1 and t3, loses t2

umbral belfry
lunar pawn
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t5 looks like a tech loss

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t4 could be a tech loss too but Idk speed

placid bloom
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t4 looks like 3RL, Cindy team usually needs 3 clip + 1 mag RL to hit 2RL

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but he has 2 mags

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and even at 2RL Blanc indom will apply before Cindy burst wipes, it's just that slow

lunar pawn
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guess he could win t4 if his team can tank cindy burst before blanc bursts

placid bloom
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yeah I checked, that Cindy team is 3RL into 3RL Blanc, it loses for sure

crystal flicker
lunar pawn
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I think t5 left side is fast enough to have moran burst before siren

lusty pelican
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ok ill go with tech thanks alot my doods 🙏

lunar pawn
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then sanis just munches off

crystal flicker
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That T5 is 3RL vs 4RL

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But Moran stunned

lunar pawn
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oh 3RL only? gg

crystal flicker
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Even if it's 2.5, based on Keripo's it should be stunned too

lunar pawn
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so at 2RL you're safe at b1?

placid bloom
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I don't think it stuns at 2.5, my Siren stuns after my Helm casts B3

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that shouldn't be 2.5

crystal flicker
lunar pawn
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pretty sure she stuns at 2RL

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she won't stop noise burst but probably a b2

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am I trolling with this defense? pepehmmm

crystal flicker
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in SP, Siren roughly stun at 3RL

lunar pawn
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that bad?

placid bloom
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SP and CA should both be slow stun, only rookie is pre-2RL stun cuz min round work there

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if you want a fast stun you have to use Soda hmmz

lunar pawn
lusty pelican
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Stun fast with those bazookas makes sense

glad glade
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This is the tie-breaker round that will determine the match for my cheer. Shotgun team is the attacker. Would it be correct to assume the Emilia team wins?

muted stag
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t1 shd be win t3 i think not fast enuf burst gen shd i swop noise to like centi/trina?

placid bloom
lunar pawn
glad glade
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Understood. Thank you

lusty pelican
crystal flicker
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You should ask tech directly clueless

lusty pelican
lusty pelican
bitter trout
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Shouldn’t PvP be SS tier? Too many in my arena circle have to find ways to by pass it and sometimes Moran counter doesn’t work KEKW

lone sequoia
bitter trout
lone sequoia
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rookie, sp, CA are not the same

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in sp depends in the team you face

bitter trout
lone sequoia
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siren is in SG teams or scarlet teams from what i have seen, scarlet team is the same with soda(both teams lose against a stronger scarlet)
or sg they onlu win in def since SG hit p5, in atk they have the same counter scarlet or defender+biscuit, the only team that doesn't look good is blanc teams but those are just weak against the other

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now the only exception was moran in DR team against helm

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a stun in moran makes rapu burst first and skip a revive if you kill or snipe helm or the unit in p2

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but that is if they use nero p5 to counter SG in atk

crystal flicker
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Just need better positioning to counter Siren tbh

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Put burst-gen/decoy in P1, and you're good

lone sequoia
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cindy p1 is bad, and rei... not many people use rei

crystal flicker
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or just burst faster

lone sequoia
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b1 p1 in 2RL

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same burst for hypercarry in blanc comps(nuke) or defender+biscuit

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in SG teams if the SGs kill the units fast siren will not proc the stun(?

radiant storm
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Pretty okay for A 2RL

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Really need Trina

lone sequoia
# radiant storm

trina as the only buffer is fine if you get a crit with scarlet nuke or have more than 40~50%atk in scarlet OL, you will have problems against cored units (p3~p5) or noise b1 in the enemy team

crystal flicker
umbral crown
keen vapor
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XD

keen vapor
umbral crown
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seguro?

strong hull
onyx scaffold
dire root
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Both are 3 RL, Blanc bursts gives Indom to SBS then once Noah immunity wears off SBS wipes everyone, correct?

nocturne arrow
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any idea to defeat him?

keen vapor
dire root
keen vapor
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Yes

dire root
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You can tell by that?

keen vapor
dire root
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I only have like 2 rounds where I havw a idea of who is going to win.

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I just looked at Quiry's burst, she is horrible all it does is heal, Alice should just murder them I think.

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Unless she out heals alice

brittle oasis
nocturne arrow
unique wagon
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Are there any tiebreak issues I can use as reference? I need more data. If possible, with full battle records from your opponents too (will have to ask for their screenshots and that's only if they did take some).

keen vapor
dire root
keen vapor
dire root
keen vapor
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But units aren't invested in the slightest so

Yes, Alice will win despite she has no buffers

dire root
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Also damn I didn't take into account unit investment, I wish I could see their nikkes.

nocturne arrow
brittle oasis
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same 2RL, HelmT B3 will shoot to Noah B2 immune, 0dmg

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and the battle will depend on normal atk for both side

nocturne arrow
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thanks, thats a good team

brittle oasis
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HelmT will have regen, but SAnis will have more dmg to 2 target at the same time

umbral crown
keen vapor
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DOROOOOOOOOOO whyyy

umbral crown
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was about time

keen vapor
strong hull
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Long time no see

umbral crown
umbral crown
strong hull
umbral crown
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glad to hear that, thats the way

keen vapor
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Now I'm only missing Snow White TimiProud

glad glade
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Sanis team is 4 RL while Noah team is 3 RL. At first glance, it seems like the Noah team will win, but is it possible that the Sanis team (defender SGs) will kill Rapu and clutch a win? Or will Noise taunt and save her?

umbral crown
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but need RH for a better experience

keen vapor
umbral crown
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even tho my cooks in CA doing fine without her tho

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maybe for T5 she can be excellent B1 burst

keen vapor
umbral crown
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my current cook its looking like the best so far, been doing 4-1 on every boi i encounter there

umbral crown
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previous winner will be not the exception

umbral crown
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me in Top 32 scaring the 2 bois in my way for top 8

umbral crown
glad glade
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Anyways, thank you. Last season had several nasty surprises that prevented me from getting that silver frame, so this time I’m a bit on edge on any oversight

keen vapor
glad glade
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What about Noah taunt? Wouldn’t that taunt Sanis’ missiles and she’d be protected by Biscuit?

surreal fable
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in the clip is RH with adjutant cube, would I lose if I change it with resil like this?

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last time I lost with this setup (resil on RH), then I upgraded Biscuit's core but now using adjutant for less rng

keen vapor
surreal fable
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haven't tried again with resil

drifting socket
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anyone know if cin is countered by morian biscuit?

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or other taunt

keen vapor
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Moran Biscuit pepehmmm

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Shouldn't be

swift mango
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Don't make your account in SEA because you will have to fight level 401+ as lv201.

keen vapor
graceful grotto
glad glade
graceful grotto
glad glade
crystal flicker
# keen vapor How to cook <:sadge:956063730116988960>
  1. Go to minimarket, buy a stove and gas
  2. Attach your gas to the stove with a special hose (depend on the stove's type)
  3. Try turn it on, make sure the fire is adjustable via the toggle
  4. Search for a recipe for what you want to cook
  5. Buy the resources (meat, vegetable, oil, fruit, seasoning, etc)
  6. Follow the recipe on how to cook your food
  7. Unless you know what you do, don't add weird things to your food
  8. Prepare a plate or bowl (depend on your food) and serve your food.
keen vapor
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Macaroon poggies with cheese

crystal flicker
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Not to brag, but I have 20 years of experiences in cooking instant noodle pepehmmm

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Tempering yes, I rarely see someone recommend Endurance tho

rich quail
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If so, then u are deffo a pro instaramen-er

near plank
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@raven plover are you gonna win this fight?

near plank
raven plover
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I placed bet on myself tho pain

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I saw like 4 people with my defs one of them gonna win surely clueless

shell hazel
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you got this thumbsup

crystal flicker
frigid mountain
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looking to see if any team recs for arena/sp arena. Not alot chars yet but just wanted to see what i can do with what i have

frigid mountain
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yea..... i heard those guys are op

frigid mountain
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oh what is this, idk what stuff like 3RL and such are... but i can understand those are the teams you recommended

shell hazel
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it's a rough indicator of burst speed

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3RL is fairly good, anything faster like 2.5 or 2RL is considered quick

frigid mountain
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ohhhhh okay

shell hazel
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4RL is a bit slow (but at least it can burst). anything less than 4RL is basically not going to burst

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in pvp bursting is key

keen vapor
frigid mountain
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gotcha thats good to know

keen vapor
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It's not exact second so that's why we don't use it and say RL instead

shell hazel
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there are nuances within the RL thing but for the most part it will tell you how fast the team is, different units have different burst gen figures

frigid mountain
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ah ok

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so this is like a estimation calc ok

keen vapor
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Yeh

shell hazel
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rocket launchers are usually better pvp units but you need a lot of dolls 😄

frigid mountain
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makes sense lol

shell hazel
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but you still want to build around stuff like having a DPS than can actually kill when you burst

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when you get more units you can get new teams looked at

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burst order does matter as does positioning to some degree as well, as in auto pve left most burst unit goes first

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the top most units are the higher burst gen ones, some you can't get anymore like Emilia as she was a collab unit

keen vapor
frigid mountain
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gotcha that make sense, its wild my bracket is insanely stacked rn so will see how far i get lol

shell hazel
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pvp brackets are based on your start date

frigid mountain
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yea i assumed that

shell hazel
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so if you started an account, quit for a few months and come back, you're going to be miles behind and unlikely to really catch up

frigid mountain
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makes sense, i started around 5 days ago

shell hazel
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you should be fine

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it will balance out, you can do good if you can push a bit and stay focused - main thing here actually is your campaign team progression

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pushing campaign (normal + hard) unlocks more power long term due to better resources

frigid mountain
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valid, im pushing pretty well in my server rn

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i made it to top 3 in campaign stages so at least doing something right lol

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but thank you tho! ill hopefully get more units to make some more pvp teams later on

shell hazel
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yeah, keep rocking the campaign stuff, Mihara comes out soon and looks like she'd make a good addition to your dps roster

frigid mountain
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yea im desperate for some dps units...

shell hazel
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siren and crown are a great b1/b2 combo so you'll probably run those forever basically lol

frigid mountain
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lol yea i heard, lucky with the crown roll and i had no idea who she was when i started LOL

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i didnt read any abilities and just autod everything and didnt know what anyone did day 1

shell hazel
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get Naga from the 100 pt exchange thing when you can, run Crown / Siren / B3 DPS / B3 DPS / Naga

frigid mountain
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oh fr? i was holding onto my bonus draw since i wasnt sure if i should save to mlb alice or not

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i still have to wait to unlock alice's diary for one more copy

shell hazel
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get a Naga copy for sure

frigid mountain
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gotcha good to know

shell hazel
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she's best in slot here only swapping with Treasure Helm

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depending on the stage

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you get 6 exchanges so MLB alice is no problem anyway

frigid mountain
#

makes sense

shell hazel
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liter is also great but I'd say Siren is the better investment for now

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you also get a selector for spare alice when you get someone to 141

frigid mountain
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amazing thanks for the advice

shell hazel
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np 🙂

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consider vaguely working on treasure helm but you can't really focus it yet

keen vapor
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Hungry Hippo for MA 2025? susge

frigid mountain
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LOL

shell hazel
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i.e. when you unlock her dispatch item send it from the outpost, and having Helm in your wishlist etc

frigid mountain
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and gotcha thank you! ive seen here talked about alot with the team so ill check her out

shell hazel
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she is the highest burst gen unit in the game atm

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also she has great application in pve as well

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but it's high investment and I doubt you can get it done easily this early, so just try and get 3 copies of her for the treasure and work on her bond level and such

shell hazel
frigid mountain
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lol but thanks! i think i do have her on my wishlist actually so ill just hope for now

shell hazel
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yeah, you can get extra copies with silver mileage at least

frigid mountain
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OH RIGHT

merry agate
shell hazel
keen vapor
shell hazel
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I hope the Mihara kit works out being good, she should be, that skin is quite something

frigid mountain
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well at least with these 3 core, i think ill upgrade their skills to the budget minimum at least then

shell hazel
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crown is like 10/10/10 in the end tbh

frigid mountain
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and mihara gonna be great too then since shes mg with siren

shell hazel
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siren I have at 7/10/7

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naga I got at 7/7/7 but her burst is lower prio, could 7/7/4 or even 7/7/1

frigid mountain
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ooh okay

shell hazel
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basic invest for most is 4/4/4 but you can't invest all units gotta prioritise, and mihara will want some skills as well

frigid mountain
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gotcha that makes sense, im a hoarder so i kinda forget to invest at all..

shell hazel
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you'll never go wrong throwing skills on crown / siren / naga like this

dire root
#

pepehmmm Who do you think Helm is targetting? Scarlet who may be immune and uh Liter maybe?

shell hazel
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crown in particular is atk boosts for your whole team as well as shielding

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but if you got dps to boost up do those first, just not really worth it with your dps roster

frigid mountain
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yea......

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my dps are COOKED, but hopefully not soon

shell hazel
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only thing you really need to look at hoarding is the crates, but even then, I'd say it depends

dire root
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Even if Helm kills liter if scarlet lives and bursts with Jackal and Trina it is over lol

shell hazel
#

Helm has ele advantage over elec linked Jackal/Scarlet though right?

keen vapor
frigid mountain
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gotcha, i think for crown when i got her skills up, i did have to useu crates for the orange code manuals to get them to lvl 5

shell hazel
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if you push the campaign then you can do higher sim room levels each day which gives you more skill books

frigid mountain
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seems like orange ones are the hardest to get

shell hazel
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also the current drake event is crazy you'll get so many skill materials there

frigid mountain
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yea i saw! its great

dire root
keen vapor
frigid mountain
#

are collection items worth putting on anyone outside of dps?

dire root
frigid mountain
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like siren or naga for example...

shell hazel
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the core dust/battle data/credit crates are time based resources that work off your outpost level

final wedge
shell hazel
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so you want to push campaign to get higher outpost levels before you open them, but I'd open crates when you get stuck a bit

frigid mountain
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gotcha

shell hazel
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but just the ones you need to

final wedge
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the only way pepega lose is if @delicate sequoia bet on the opposing team clueless

shell hazel
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use the rental units (level 200) when you need to as well

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they reset each day, taking just 1 to a fight can help a lot but don't use them if you can clear without them

shell hazel
shell hazel
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mainly you want to max out your dps with the dolls but I have given them to most of the units I use

frigid mountain
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gotcha

keen vapor
frigid mountain
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LOL

shell hazel
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it's better to add a blue doll and get it to R-15 using only the blue kits

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don't use the orange kits on the blue dolls

frigid mountain
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i only have one doll on alice and havent used any others

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and oooh okay good to know

shell hazel
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when you add a blue doll and upgrade it to R-15, when you swap it to a purple doll it starts at SR-5

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if you add a purple doll without doing this, it's SR-0 and it's a pain to get it to SR-5

frigid mountain
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oh THATS WHY. i didnt know thats why people recommended taking them to 15 first

dire root
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Ugh this round is making it hard to decide.

dire root
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Right team may just say no to Alice and tank the entire burst with damage reduction/healing

shell hazel
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getting from SR-5 to SR-6 before using orange kits at all is best, they improve the chance to super success at each level jump

keen vapor
frigid mountain
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gotcha good to know. did not know there were also orange dolls to worry about...

shell hazel
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orange/SSR materials

keen vapor
#

Orange kits*

frigid mountain
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oh thank you, meant that

shell hazel
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where possible I like to spark the level with enough kits in one go

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blue kits = 200 xp
purple kits = 500 xp
orange kits = 1000 xp

SR-5 to SR-6 is 3000 xp so I like to do like:

100 blue kits = 2000 xp
20 purple kits = 1000 xp

dire root
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Going against majority lol.

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Must not cave to peer pressure

frigid mountain
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gotcha good to know,

shell hazel
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that 20% chance on the elite/orange kit will go from like 20% at SR-5 to 35% at SR-6

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it's why you don't spam them too early on in the process 🙂

dire root
frigid mountain
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lol makes sense, ill kepe that in mind when upgrading my collection items

keen vapor
shell hazel
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my matches today, Railtracer thinks I might not take it due to round 3, so round 3 is important 😛

dire root
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Man a 4 RL blanc team is painful to look at

keen vapor
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I see

final wedge
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i just realized after watcin keripo team....how similar my season 1 with his season 2 strat.....sigh.....i shudve make an improvement of existing team....not to rework the whole shet

keen vapor
shell hazel
final wedge
dire root
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The blanc team in question, Idk what red hood is doing here.

keen vapor
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Buffing clueless

dire root
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Blanc SBS needs buffing?

keen vapor
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clueless no

dire root
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Surprised a team with Centi and biscuit is a 4 Rl

final wedge
keen vapor
shell hazel
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red hood burst gen isn't that great

dire root
shell hazel
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most b1 gen is poor except rumani

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and jackal

dire root
shell hazel
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jackal prob needed on og scarlet team so they couldn't spare her

keen vapor
shell hazel
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pepper and sr neon burst gen is only OK compared to them

dire root
keen vapor
#

Micaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ShiftyWah

final wedge
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Siren 3sec on 3RL surely will improve blanc indom team now....against similar 3RL.....its improving the team win chance......my problem is.....how to cook it to 3RL......goddamn 17% CS........

keen vapor
final wedge
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i dont wanna open my indom blanc to lose on mirror match with 3RL.....i dont wanna increase my lose chance

final wedge
final wedge
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could do dis....but.....i wan B3 instead of Anis.....way too costy to have 2 RL booster just for blanc sadge

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and.....dat 110.65%.....wasting 10.65% sadge ...so inneficent

crystal flicker
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try reg rl/sg

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ScarBS P1 w/o Jackal pepehmmm

shell hazel
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I ran Blanc P1 with biscuit on my SBS comp I think

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on 3RL to keep her alive 😛

final wedge
crystal flicker
#

This is mine

final wedge
#

hoooooooooooo tytytyyyyyyyyyyyy

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wait...i need Siren hmmz

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sadge .....i purposely wan Siren to be on Blanc team cuz it will increase the team chance to win since it....hmmm.....maybe i shud given up on dat idea and put Siren on other 3 RL team

shell hazel
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there you go you just need 4 quantum cubes 😄

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at level 7

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poor blanc though hope she well built 😛

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or 3 with xmaiden

dire root
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Helm isn't treasured over 3 copies too whyyy

shell hazel
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this looks like a throwaway team to me lol

kind palm
#

if mihara pvp viable I'm gonna try hard to use her in CA

kind palm
dire root
shell hazel
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MG not usually great in pvp though

dire root
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Left bursts first, Blanc dies. stall on indom jackal for a while then SBS wipes? Unless Blanc dies first.

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It's hard for me to tell if a unit with no health buffer will just die before burst if they are in P1.

crystal flicker
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just look at the cp

oblique ridge
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Did someone share that screenshot of sequence of timings for Noah burst to hit before or after Siren stun?

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I'm trying to find it again deadge

dire root
kind palm
crystal flicker
dire root
crystal flicker
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SHe is

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Need like max Doll and Tempering + OL if you want to run Solo Blanc

dire root
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I see SBS in P1 super often, I suppose because SBS normally has heavy invesment, lots of HP and gets the indom on burst with blanc.

crystal flicker
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You can see their match history

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It's a gamble

kind palm
crystal flicker
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I wont be brave enough to run P1 Jackaless ScarBS

dire root
crystal flicker
#

It's CA no?

dire root
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Oh right

crystal flicker
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I'm runnning 4RL Underinvest Moran + Biscuit against 3 Iron DPS, can she survive?

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I mean enemy is 5RL or more

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So it just Biscuit Invuln against time to reach 4RL

dire root
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Yeah I should just flip a coin, only 1 round I'm sure of

keen vapor
crystal flicker
crystal flicker
keen vapor
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pepehmmm and burst 10? Skill 2 level 10?

crystal flicker
keen vapor
crystal flicker
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P2 so close to 2.5 due to Cindy P1, but Blanc will still burst after 3RL mark sadly

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I win against this tho

keen vapor
crystal flicker
#

RH

keen vapor
#

Alice

crystal flicker
#

Crown

keen vapor
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Crown is defender with skills that don't inflict damage

crystal flicker
#

Siren will stun La+

keen vapor
crystal flicker
#

Biscuit invuln x2 is 10 sec

keen vapor
crystal flicker
#

How long is 4RL

keen vapor
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4 seconds

crystal flicker
#

What about T2? this their gen at 2.5

dire root
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Cindy has a clone that gives like double the burst when she is hit right? Right is 3RL and left is almost 3RL. I wonder if the splash hitting the clone will give left the boost needed.

crystal flicker
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Seems no
2RL is B3 at 3.16
2.5RL is B2 at 3.32

crystal flicker
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RL gen * 1.25 for bonus P2 Cindy

crystal flicker
#

Seems like
W/L

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W/L
L/W
L/W
W/L

keen vapor
crystal flicker
#

2RL vs 2.5RL

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Scarlet will cast at 3.16 while Blanc will cast at 3.24

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Unless there's some other delay for 2RL B3

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or maybe the feeds can push the burst to 2.4 pepehmmm

quiet fiber
#

Expert analysis on this match-up? I'm aiming for the silver frame for this season. Guehehe

keen vapor
unique mountain
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Alright all in on left

unique mountain
#

I just noticed that KEKWut

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My idol

raven plover
#

can you record that poggies

unique mountain
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Sure , but you'll have to remind me

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Just looked at his name , that guy was in section kekwwa , left around early 2023

crystal flicker
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atp my Sacc P3 has more hope to win the CA pepehmmm

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Surely P23 gonna die b4 3RL and make Rosa Nuke Scar + Mana pepehmmm

merry agate
dire root
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Pulled Biscuit on this account which is sweet, it freed up jackal for the blanc team.

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Blanc jackal and SBS are a pretty strong trio

calm kettle
#

@slender forge i win with bibo i lost with sam 🏳️ rip 600gem

marble saddle
#

Anyone got a solution for this Combo.
i can beat team 2
but team 3 and 1 are being more challenging
i dont have siren or Trina (fyi)

delicate sequoia
calm kettle
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v rossana skill for kill emilia frist and laplace

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bcoz rapunzel stronk. need chain thoo like privaty. with stronk sbs fast kill

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opsi make them afk`rossana noah biscuit privaty sbs(must calculated brust)

marble saddle
calm kettle
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bcoz rapunzel and blanc op like tia for taunt

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tia noah scarlet jackal 1 more dps/rapunzel .. me always lost on rockkie enemy comp

marble saddle
calm kettle
marble saddle
#

i dont have siren so...... deadge

calm kettle
#

with this

marble saddle
calm kettle
raven plover
calm kettle
#

or emilia blanc rh centi jack 👀 🐳 i saw people love this comp

marble saddle
swift mango
raven plover
marble saddle
#

this team also works for his team 3 but it still leaves my other team without too much Burst gen so his Cindy manages to Burst earlier

raven plover
marble saddle
calm kettle
#

Yolo👀

raven plover
marble saddle
raven plover
#

the infamous "bug"

calm kettle
#

blanc immortal bcoz biscuit💜

calm kettle
calm kettle
#

For experience. 👀

calm kettle
calm kettle
marble saddle
calm kettle
calm kettle
marble saddle
calm kettle
#

bricked accAdmiOno unlucky

quartz pecan
#

Can you guys help me build team for SP arena

tropic summit
shell hazel
#

gotta back yourself sometimes eh 🙂

tropic summit
#

and here we've the war criminal instead hmmz

shell hazel
#

we clutched match 3 I haven't watched it yet

graceful grotto
#

lost as expected @umbral belfry

tropic summit
#

i'm sorry for all those 80% who voted for me to win KEKW

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money is money CrownHUH

shell hazel
#

if you voted for yourself you'd have won it

near plank
tropic summit
shell hazel
#

nah rail said it was 50/50 on match 3, and I'd lose 1/2 and win 4/5

shell hazel
#

team 1 was the SG comp and on attack = no lol

umbral belfry
#

@wet crystal we'll get em next time SyuenPats

shell hazel
#

team 5 is the 4rl

tropic summit
near plank
#

rip all majority bettors

graceful grotto
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@tropic summit i made a mistake on the team lineup, siren should have been in pos 4 instead of 5

graceful grotto
#

indeed

raven plover
umbral belfry
#

thank god I voted correctly i can still get the losing border poggies

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poggies THERES HOPE

raven plover
tropic summit
#

that frame better be worth skipping on credit boxes KEKL

umbral belfry
#

I have like 2000 boxes so it is for me LMAO

#

@worthy sorrel grats fancy cup zzmilkcup zymochacups good luck further on, rooting for you and ura (but pls don't fight that's too stressful for my heart)

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if they do I might lose my losing border SirenHuh

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@tropic summit bay ate my nuke up for breakfast KEKW

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I like aesthetic stuff AliceLove

shell hazel
#

I'm posting the video now

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my SBS team failed to burst, weak pepper/anis 😄

umbral belfry
#

shh MadgeBackhand

umbral belfry
shell hazel
#

it's processing

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actually my sbs team failed to burst because it died to scarlet nuke 😛

shell hazel
#

Scarlet! ScarletGun

graceful grotto
coarse lake
#

my sg team so stronk, pulled off a miracle

umbral belfry
coarse lake
#

my blanc rapu team still undefeated MonkaGiga

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it's won vs rapu stun, and now vs siren stun

graceful grotto
umbral belfry
#

Scarlet and SAnis Think

graceful grotto
#

scarlet vs scarlet, both 2 RL hahaha

wet crystal
shell hazel
#

yeah, let's see what the next teams look like

umbral belfry
#

T2 and T5 won

wet crystal
#

Oh, i didn't expect t5

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I had, 1 - 4

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Only t2

umbral belfry
#

In the future, make sure Bay is your only b2 or primary b2 on a team. There's not much use is she's just there for burst gen and the secondary b2 Nod

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moran and bay is a nasty combo if you wanna see my t5 loss

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or noise bay

wet crystal
#

Started only reading up on my nikkes skills, like actually after setting up me season 2 team

placid bloom
#

seem like Cinderella burst really is random, I thought it was always 2 hit per Nikke in arena pepehmmm

umbral belfry
#

Eating up all that pvp knowledge ChiiEat

wet crystal
#

Didn't even know mihara cuts down. On burst time by 5 seconds

umbral belfry
#

at least this overall is good experience

shell hazel
#

my matchups for top 16, I think I'm defending so bottom one

umbral belfry
#

hippo going all the way poggies

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the SG T1 battle KEK

coarse solstice
#

I'm going against the guy who beat my twin 💀💀💀

umbral belfry
coarse solstice
umbral belfry
#

lemme check the matchup

coarse solstice
#

It's rough...

shell hazel
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T1 SG battle not sure I'll win it, skipping that, I think I win T2, T3

umbral belfry
#

he wiped last Monka

shell hazel
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T4 I am not far off 2.5RL with quantum on, if I can burst quick enough with scarlet it's a maybe

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T5 I def lose it

coarse solstice
#

L L W L W

sinful iris
#

should i replace any of this chars for rookie arena?

graceful grotto
#

she's no business being there aside from cp

sinful iris
coarse solstice
#

Siren to counter noah

sinful iris
#

who should i swap her with, alice?

coarse solstice
#

2rl counter works in rookie

umbral belfry
#

@coarse solstice L ? (i don't think bay blocks sbs bc not a nuke, but helmt might snipe sbs unless their helmt is more invested? their blanc is there for nothing unless bisc dies) W L (unless blanc can get indom off in time and it hits sbs) W (but if you didn't have any feed? salute )

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wait their helmt might get sniped, it's max CrownHUH

coarse solstice
#

Exactly

umbral belfry
#

Most likely a L then

coarse solstice
#

I really need to scrap my HelmT B3 team it is consistently underperforming

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Doesn't have enough good match ups since I can't place the teams

umbral belfry
#

It's not horrible, but would do better at 2 RL

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and Helmt hits hard

placid bloom
#

my next match, I think I should make top 8 unless something goes horribly wrong pepehmmm

umbral belfry
#

then again, wouldn't moran's taunt get helmt's snipe instead? which might make it null anyway bc bisc?

coarse solstice
#

That's the hope ❤️

umbral belfry
#

either way the match is most likely a L saj

coarse solstice
#

Some ideas I was thinking about not sure though

umbral belfry
#

there's only one thing and one thing only I can suggest to you

coarse solstice
#

Lock in 💪💪💪

umbral belfry
#

🗣️ LOCK!!!! 🗣️ IN!!!!!

placid bloom
#

the Cindy team is a little slow but it's probably hard to make it faster with current pool

sinful sapphire
#

It's like Soldier OW is a troll

near plank
#

its a sacrifice to make rosa work

#

its a classic strat

umbral belfry
# coarse solstice

looks decent, I personally like trina in p4 just in case (potential more lap+ next CA), but with your set up you're pretty much forced into it. maybe p3?

coarse solstice
#

Yeah squishy batteries make things rough

shell hazel
umbral belfry
#

I still think your moran bay helmt was fine, but noise and bay is good too

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indom noise blanc sbs seems interesting PepeDetective I didn't know how lethal that team could be

placid bloom
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problem is 3RL Bay Cindy is too slow to catch 2RL Scarlet and still loses to 3RL Blanc SBS

coarse solstice
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I'm going to bully my rookie peeps this next couple weeks 🙂‍↕️

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Have to test

umbral belfry
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yeah 3 rl bay is meh

umbral belfry
placid bloom
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I do think the Biscuit Noah team can be slower, so you can move HelmT over

shell hazel
coarse solstice
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Nothing but I gotta put in some work and see what teams need investment

umbral belfry
shell hazel
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Hime look what I got 👀

coarse solstice
umbral belfry
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I love that costume

shell hazel
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mihara soon ™️

umbral belfry
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My goals before next CA is to get lapt+ and beef up my moran AliceLove

shell hazel
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lapt+ does seem like a decent goal to reach

umbral belfry
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She's SR10 now poggies

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and with SR soon, I should get her unless I absolutely get bullied by rng