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How come?

i dunno go ask SU?

w/o Jackal, Scarlet has low feeds?
Ty
Well, she has her skill 2....
w/o jackal only s2, which is still quite a bit if vs MG/SG
So he might reach 2.5
Rosa still nuke her at 2.5, with Mana
It'll be Rapun revive game
He has Noise P5 tho
Kinda worried about P1 if they die from Iron b4 burst
thisis my first time cheering can someone help?
But I'm not seeing the matches 
i need to ss and attach hold on
You shouldn't just blindly follow majority if you want to "win"
@tropic summit is this just Cindy atk RNG 
slower cindy wins, buff last "longer" when noah shield is down
but ye investiment difference aswell likely
how du u guys out all ss in one picture, trying to put both players teams
Nikke deck
I'm not good at editing
-# He doesn't even try, how do you know you aren't good at it
Who let them cook first match 
ikr , both weird, especially the one running crown
Buff probably, I mean in the end basically 5v1 and lose lol
https://i.imgur.com/a39ikCC.mp4
Can someone help me understand why Biscuit's passive didn't trigger twice on Blanc?
Jackal
Yeah just saw.. mb
I went from rank 20 in rookie to rank number 1 in like 4 days, what breaking wall does to account.
W/L
Depends on who's right Blanc cast her Indom
L/W
W/L
W/L
Team right 5 is 100% lose. But team right 2 can win pretty easily if SBS died before she burst.
so robin wins
I realized CA Champion using this frame instead of the Gold with "Qualify for Finals"
Does that mean there will be another "Final" for CA Champions?
well ig i will vote along with the majority this time
You also purple now congrats... This Arena will be purple land soon.
Final mean get to final, either rank 1-2. This frame means winning final... Besti in SEA used the gold frame though.
Ohh

Global is pretty sad having a CN as top guy. 
Also, congratulations @lusty gull
all or nothing
@tropic summit your cooking helped me get to t32, likely t16 as well. but if I match vs the better setup (most likely) in top 8 I'll lose because my Cindy matches vs their Noah, my 3RL indom vs their 2RL scar nuke and my noah stall team vs indom sbs 
how is that lv216 won CA 
His bracket being up to 250?
meanwhile my bracket, I'm always the lowest 
He could be lazy with tower and campaign so his commander level is lower than his synch level.
that can also be the case
We in SEA only have 4 bracket.
1 for up to 421 ish.
1 for up to 501 ish I guess.
2 other for first and 2nd month players.
right 
Nvm my bad, Team 2 left RH if went 5-4-3-2-1 could win pretty easily...
can someone help me make 3 good defence teams plz i have every nikke except bready and crust
tired of climbing up just to get wacked down like 30 ranks

Scarlet Blanc Trina maiden jackal
Noise Noah Cinderella Helm Rumani
Moran Helm Bay Biscuit Laplace/Rapunzel
If any team has low CP it won't be my fault 
See 
ykw its easier if i just show whos built
Seeee?! 
You just bought Alice skin? 
.... That's not a good sign 
but yeah i mainly invest into pve stuffs like ur and sr
dont rly build pvp only
It means level diff of one hundred levels issue
the no 1 in my bracket is like sync 490 yea
but top 10-30 ranges from like 440-480
I'm 401 and I can't beat Challenger 3 at 441 
nvm its 545 at no 1
but i dont rly care for no 1 just want like easy top 60 for 1600 gems
@swift mango doing fine in CA?
401? Show me
But why, 441 should be ez
I'm still in at least but Idk how it would be later. No decent match up where I put my Emi+MirandaT though...
But probably woeked fine against those yolo team i guess
Where is your 421 account. 
401 hasn't changed
All my teams work fine against yolo...
I did extra math under 12k core dust
I can reach 418
421 after next hard mode
5 shot gun?
Nope, just 2 SG in team. Viper and Pepper
Guess that's enough to kill Noise before she burst
Peppee just have 4 ol and skills ar 4
They focused noah
Matches probably go better on 410 I guess but.... Idk
w l w w w ?
It shows 390
Ok so, Emilia unusable.... Crown as well?
what are you investing on?
I said, 401 hasn't changed it
Didn't recorded new vid
You have my blabla
But your cp looks low
Do i?
2 million
asuka wille, little mermaid, and saving stuff for new mihara rn
is on LD server
I won so top 32, was busy with rl stuff until now
@umbral belfry @tropic summit how you guys do?
also @spare brook
does decoy make Cinderella burst target other chars first?
Low, against that boi you lack investment sadly 


I know it's true
How are you doing though?
Your emi 1 buffed just removed their cover
Doing fine, now im in top.32 and all my fights have gone 4-1 in my favor
Now im gonna face the paat winner
Im confident i can win unless rng shows its hand
I'm also all 4-1, 5-0 this far but I may stop soon.
Yes
Wait no, understood it the other way
I still have not made 5-0 but one day
Decoy won't affect Cinderella burst targeting
hmm
made it
not 100% sure how this match goes though
Got 5-0 against one guy with proper 4 teams lol... Poor dude all teams got countered....
I guess my opponent's decoy was just too tanky then
The funny thing was my scar trina one shot a noise noah cindy team
Is this a win?
Cinderella does affect general targeting however
nah that wasn't the issue
Yeah it should happen.
I was doing 2RL Cindy Siren into 3RL Cindy Noah Biscuit, my Siren stunned his Noah so I assumed I'd wipe everything except Noah
I only use trina in CA since no cp issues
but his Cinderella was full HP and managed to cast burst
I have issues 
Its like all or nothing bursting with her
I love to see my teams at 762, 721 and 730 at lv400 in CA, imagining it could be in SP
I'm thinking Noah
My Miranda should also stun.

bruh (stolen from KR)

Miranda stunning?
it's weird because it's supposed to evenly distribute 2 hits per char but I guess it's just 10 hits random


I will build my Soda next... Hope she isn't bricked and lower ATK than Trina...
He doesn't knows 
he scammed himself 
All 5 teams stunning, would be funy
I've just recorded mine I'll upload them soon, I need to see how the next matches look
I'd guess RLs get half effective against that, and the CP penalty isn't as severe in CA. What's the issue with it?
Shift up know B3 Stun is just bad so they make B1 stun now. 
Yeah
Does the empty slot get shifted?
Giving us more ways to enjoy
PVP joints units if you do that
Mine depends on T5 mostly, but scar into bay at pos2 so 
Guess my Miranda won't be in next season. 
So, yes
1+ month of doll mats and a bunch of skill books wasted.
only in CA? I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way in rookie at least

I may add siren next season in yolo team
My t2 is also blanc sbs @ noah bisc but noise is p1
but I think I still lose that matchup
Should be any PVP arena
Better than nothing, could stop scar jack agsinst that team
is 2RL Siren Privaty perma stun viable 

the amt of burst gen to use that team tho 
Empty P2 and 60 fps option works in Rookie because it's resolved Client side... Not working in SpA and CA because resolved server side....
It means you could use mod app and win Rookie Arena to top 1 easily.

I think I lose 1, I might lose 2, should win 3/4, 5 possibly just clinch with heals and such
but 2RL cindy / noah into 3RL cindy / noah 😄
risky
maybe, my SBS did get it on the last match at least so somewhat working
pepper is a bit of a cope as I lack a rumani to sit there
Cinderella too slow yeah still get caught by 3RL Noah unfortunately 
it's gonna need some luck
uploaded matches at least it's just one set this time, they need to allow play all
@coarse lake I'm betting on you >:)
i didn't make it because i calculated wrong and my soda didn't get jackal link lol


welp, RNG doing its thing, nothing you can do about it 
i should be losing next match, but community seems to believe firmly the opposite 
believe in the railtracer 
it was a good run, top 64 I won 4/5 instead 
i know my nikke so i can state i don't believe in them 
especially considering 3 out of 5 teams are fighting their counters
yeah that P5 is an auto team, B1 in p1 on 4RL come on... 
i think the P3 will be the decisive one
in general i've seen slow cindy win against faster cindy
if 5 SG nuke P5, it's basically instant right?
3RL Noah should catch 2RL Cindy in time, it just won't catch every hit
@swift mango what was the logic in slower cindy winning against faster cindy again? buff length?
yeah that was my concern was my quicker cindy/noah is a negative when they have 3RL
so it's RNG on which hits land before Noah invin goes live
my noah bursts too early
burst delay+ cindy counter cindy
you get better buff in slower teams
5SG will delete p5 within 1RL, p4 within 2.5RL (depends on doll but roughly)
the thing is both teams have noah, so still 50/50 and the match will depend in invest
If Noah, yeah, more Noah window. If no Noah, the Cindy who burst first lose her decoy when the Cindy who burst later get her decoy back as she burst.

oh the decoy gimmick
their laplace isn't treasured
makes sense 
at least
Can someone help me counter this
Need help to beat this team (Round 1-3 from top to bottom)
2nd and 3rd pics are my units

scarlet/trina /rh wins
just not enough under Noise buff
Odds on me winning isn't very good
I'm top, should win this, their team 2 it's only Noise who should die, my soda has 2 ele and 3 atk or sth
I posted le vids
rosanna cannot nuke my scarlet in match 4 right?
though if you're lucky, the hit you sneak in is on Helm and she probably dies even with Noise buff
this is how the invest looks, their helm at least p1 treasure but not maxed either
opponent is 4RL
scarlet blanc rh centi jackal 3RL
scarlet liter trina centi jackal 2RL
blanc emilia rh biscuit crown (emi with vigor) 4RL
noah biscuit cind RH helmT 3RL
So he loses?
how did the rock session go yesterday btw?
got anything decent in the end?
I got MLB Siren, good rock spent. 
then it'll just be normal slugfest
if I can get a couple of Miharas in 180-200 pulls then I can mlb both her and siren
not impossible 
Ppl spending their money in Siren banner
Watch Mihara become "Meta Changing" Nikke lmao
How did you do yesterday 
Lemme scroll
those multipliers look juicy, especially for boss battles
Mihara gonna be like Grave, good but nothing game changing
As you should be. 
mihara won't power creep rapi, probably side grade 
DoT power, just wait
#pvp-arena message
This my next match
but this is a pvp channel, sacc is more interesting
yeah the sacc is worth considering
It's Cindy RNG that killed P5 
I might kill their Noise if I use Vigor lmao
U on attack? That was some weak team you are up against. Beat it. 
I'm on the left side, it seems so
I just noticed the guy I'm up against this round is my ch 1 
Please, I need help to beat these teams 
2RL Noah
Scarlet Jackal
Emi Blanc
You shouldn't have problems with second team.... Unless you've been gapped 40 levels 
yeah 2nd isn't a problem, 1 and 3 I can't beat
A
last team with noah+biscuit you cancel their RH lol
or just nuke faster than they can b2 with blanc
Emi+Blanc+RH/Miranda Treasure+HelmT/Jackal
Just about anything.
Siren.
I don't have Emi or Miranda treasure 
Anything 2rl Noah/Blanc 
btw am I correct with the following:
match 1 I lose
match 2 my SG nukes Noise so no B1 -> I win
match 3 I lose, my noise gets killed by 2SG + soda bursting
match 4 I win cause no burst, their rosanna is fake and laplace not even treasured
match 5 I win cause I burst faster and indom does not matter because I burst first.
anything wrong?
Or even 3rl Noah
Should beat that 2rl Cindy just fine.
why are people using bsoda as nuke in CA? did I miss something
SG comp
can't they use maid priv? stronger nuke
Maid Priv isn't clip so the team is probably slower
the only other clip option would be Maiden
but doesn't bsoda nuke tickle in pvp?
would this work?
yeah you're really hoping you just gun them down with normals before then
if you can take out 1 char or two and it's RLs they might drop in burst speed
no
so even though your burst is worse you will just hit harder earlier
skip t1, don't waste your good nikkes there
soda 4 ele should hurt electric meta at least 
she would mainly one-shot SAnis and Biscuit if you have enough ele dmg, too slow for Scar Trina
since you're 500+, non f2p, and didn't show roster, I'll assume you have everything (except emi)
t1 skip
t2 scarlet centi rapunzel anis jackal
t3 noah biscuit cindy siren Thelm
the other elec are too tanky
I don't have Trina or Rumani as well
mmm guess they'd need a good bsoda then
got Thelm though?
s1 maxed?
yes
adjusted
I don't have Trina 
right
their team 3 is single target, you can just wall RH and Helm forever with Biscuit tank and as long as Siren stuns Blanc their team has no protection
don't even need a super fast team
How can a whale missing key Nikkes
I was saving up for 4 copies of Siren but actually got them early
so Iput RH and Helm in T3?
I believe you have tons of mileage
180
no you want AoE because they are also on Biscuit
but you just need to one shot everyone except Blanc, who will be under Biscuit invin
while your own Biscuit shuts down their team
and Siren stuns their Blanc so she does nothing
Anyway you better pray for them to spook in MiharaOS / Standard wishlist
adjusted again 
I'll be honest, I didn't check RL
doesn't matter, it's literally unlosable lol
T2 lost 

recorded?
scarlet+jackal go to town with that feed
I'll try again
Deficit 
don't try again, what's your investment on those units?
didn't see any dolls on some of the key pvp units like jackal
is their Naga and SAnis really just slamming your p5 
I'm out of materials for the dolls
I'm here thinking he's going with full t9m gear
The only way to lose T2 is from deficit and slower team
you can't get any slower, he is literally Naga mag SG and SAnis clip SG, nothing else has any sort of burst gen
his Scarlet isn't even getting counters cuz it's p3
you are cp gapped
always divide your cp by their cp, and if the number is lower than 0.846, then you're under cp penalty
Where's Blanc in Scar comp
all 4 of those have no doll
think your case is like 0.80

he doesn't need blanc, that team wipes already, but not under penalty lol
Yeh, Emma SAnis Crown just die from counter
lvl 500+ whale never had to worry about pvp, now they're discovering things they never dreamed of 
no, I was able to beat this guy before today. but with different teams
he just changed lineups all of a sudden and now I can't beat him.
I have nothing but pure hatred for this guy because he always aims for my spot in pvp
Replace Anis with Blanc and see how much CP you have
you can probably beat him just by swapping Anis with RH or something
maybe swap Rapunzel for CP pad too
I mean, you need to work on your pvp units a bit more, and Idk your defense, but gotta step up your game, else he'll keep bullying you
His Blanc maxed SR15
while everyone else naked
0.93 if I use Blanc instead of Anis
yea, centi out, blanc in
Blanc probably don't work, SAnis shooting multiple char
hard to say who's getting indom
he doesn't need indom, just scarlet nuke and he wins
Centi and not Anis out?
get rid of Anis
that t2 has 0 survivability
Anis just dead
oh yea, anis out, put centi in her place, and blanc where centi was
so scarlet blanc rapunzel centi jackal
check cp
SAnis S2 prior highest atk
what's your current defense? just curious
...
I just copied the atk team you guys gave just now

but before, I think it was
scarlet/xanne/pepper/Scalter/jackal
noise/noah/SAnis/drake/
blanc/rh/biscuit/centi/noir
I forgot what that last one in T2 was, but not Anis
(I have things typed in a notepad file)
I don't see Helm on any of those 3 team 
may i ask for this one oo?
yeah I only just recently gave Helm her treasure
Is that @glacial lion 
prolly ig?
is he pro pvper or something oo
CA is rng, set your teams and pray
can you compare RL for t4 and t5?
so far thinking tech wins t1 and t3, loses t2
spotted
t4 looks like 3RL, Cindy team usually needs 3 clip + 1 mag RL to hit 2RL
but he has 2 mags
and even at 2RL Blanc indom will apply before Cindy burst wipes, it's just that slow
guess he could win t4 if his team can tank cindy burst before blanc bursts
yeah I checked, that Cindy team is 3RL into 3RL Blanc, it loses for sure
L/W
W/L
L/W
L/W
Probably L/W coz Siren stun Moran
I think t5 left side is fast enough to have moran burst before siren
ok ill go with tech thanks alot my doods 🙏
then sanis just munches off
That T5 is 3RL vs 4RL
But Moran stunned
oh 3RL only? gg
Even if it's 2.5, based on Keripo's it should be stunned too
so at 2RL you're safe at b1?
I don't think it stuns at 2.5, my Siren stuns after my Helm casts B3
that shouldn't be 2.5

pretty sure she stuns at 2RL
she won't stop noise burst but probably a b2
am I trolling with this defense? 
in SP, Siren roughly stun at 3RL
that bad?
SP and CA should both be slow stun, only rookie is pre-2RL stun cuz min round work there
if you want a fast stun you have to use Soda 

Stun fast with those bazookas makes sense
This is the tie-breaker round that will determine the match for my cheer. Shotgun team is the attacker. Would it be correct to assume the Emilia team wins?
t1 shd be win t3 i think not fast enuf burst gen shd i swop noise to like centi/trina?
if those SG are invested then Blanc should die before bursting, then it's triple wind shooting at RH.
shotgun team should win, 0 protection on that blanc
Understood. Thank you
Btw can i double check ur verdict, its tech taking the W right?
You should ask tech directly 
He would tell me to cheer him kek
Oki thankss mang
Shouldn’t PvP be SS tier? Too many in my arena circle have to find ways to by pass it and sometimes Moran counter doesn’t work 
she only works to weaken the burst chain, nothing more, now depends if people use their only b1 or b2 in p1, still, if she is only an attack unit doesn't mean she should be a higher "tier" you can win in atk with the units you want, also... don't follow tier list
Idk it’s kind of hard to counter siren teams. Been having a problem lately and had to think strategically
Everyone lost to that team in CA
and this guy in SP skips the siren comp and attacks my other two
siren is in SG teams or scarlet teams from what i have seen, scarlet team is the same with soda(both teams lose against a stronger scarlet)
or sg they onlu win in def since SG hit p5, in atk they have the same counter scarlet or defender+biscuit, the only team that doesn't look good is blanc teams but those are just weak against the other
now the only exception was moran in DR team against helm
a stun in moran makes rapu burst first and skip a revive if you kill or snipe helm or the unit in p2
but that is if they use nero p5 to counter SG in atk
Just need better positioning to counter Siren tbh
Put burst-gen/decoy in P1, and you're good
cindy p1 is bad, and rei... not many people use rei
or just burst faster
b1 p1 in 2RL
same burst for hypercarry in blanc comps(nuke) or defender+biscuit
in SG teams if the SGs kill the units fast siren will not proc the stun(?
trina as the only buffer is fine if you get a crit with scarlet nuke or have more than 40~50%atk in scarlet OL, you will have problems against cored units (p3~p5) or noise b1 in the enemy team
This bracket just one beside me lmao
XD
Goku gana
seguro?
sadge
its kasumin god
Both are 3 RL, Blanc bursts gives Indom to SBS then once Noah immunity wears off SBS wipes everyone, correct?
any idea to defeat him?
That's funny, completely uninvested Noise but core 3
Oh her combat power?
Yes
You can tell by that?

I only have like 2 rounds where I havw a idea of who is going to win.
I just looked at Quiry's burst, she is horrible all it does is heal, Alice should just murder them I think.
Unless she out heals alice
Have you tried this team comp yet?
Maybe it will work with decent CP. Its rookie arena, right? 
tell me ur result if u try, plz 
its not about winning, is about defeating him
Are there any tiebreak issues I can use as reference? I need more data. If possible, with full battle records from your opponents too (will have to ask for their screenshots and that's only if they did take some).
If the team was properly setup Alice will simply deal 0 damage
Why is that? Is the healing that strong?
No, Moran +Nero damage taken reduction
Ohhh
But units aren't invested in the slightest so
Yes, Alice will win despite she has no buffers
Also damn I didn't take into account unit investment, I wish I could see their nikkes.
||Blabla link||
i dont think using jackal is a good idea, since helm can kill multiple characters if linked
same 2RL, HelmT B3 will shoot to Noah B2 immune, 0dmg
and the battle will depend on normal atk for both side
thanks, thats a good team
HelmT will have regen, but SAnis will have more dmg to 2 target at the same time
DOROOOOOOOOOO 
was about time
I finally have one 
hey, how you doing
oh really
glad to hear that, thats the way
Now I'm only missing Snow White 
Sanis team is 4 RL while Noah team is 3 RL. At first glance, it seems like the Noah team will win, but is it possible that the Sanis team (defender SGs) will kill Rapu and clutch a win? Or will Noise taunt and save her?
i even got her
but need RH for a better experience

even tho my cooks in CA doing fine without her tho
maybe for T5 she can be excellent B1 burst
Noise will definitely taunt, while Rapu will heal a little
Units aren't heavy invested either so at the very least Noah team won't slow down
my current cook its looking like the best so far, been doing 4-1 on every boi i encounter there

Now
SBS can't attack
Rip 
previous winner will be not the exception
How to cook 
me in Top 32 scaring the 2 bois in my way for top 8
goin jam on pvp invest
Wait what, how? Do the SGs somehow kill all the B1s or B2s?
Anyways, thank you. Last season had several nasty surprises that prevented me from getting that silver frame, so this time I’m a bit on edge on any oversight
SBS gets taunted by immune Moran bc of Biscuit
While Summer Anis lifesteals off damaging SBS.... Or Noise, ig both taunts will do that
What about Noah taunt? Wouldn’t that taunt Sanis’ missiles and she’d be protected by Biscuit?
in the clip is RH with adjutant cube, would I lose if I change it with resil like this?
last time I lost with this setup (resil on RH), then I upgraded Biscuit's core but now using adjutant for less rng
Noah can only taunt half of missiles
Again, I think Noise will taunt the other half
haven't tried again with resil
Gotchu. Thank you man
Strange 
Step 1: Unbricked yourself.
Step 1.5: If can't unbrick, reset and make a new account in Global.
Don't make your account in SEA because you will have to fight level 401+ as lv201.
I'M NOT RESETTING WITHOUT FIGHTING
even if rapu is dead you still have noise, only issue is whether sbs can survive long enough to cut down biscuit's invulnerability on moran
Gotchu. In your opinion, do you think Noah and Noise taunts long enough for SBS to survive?
in most scenario i think sbs would win, but if sanis crits and nuke noise early it may be tricky
I see. So it’s another nasty surprise situation. Thank you for your help!
- Go to minimarket, buy a stove and gas
- Attach your gas to the stove with a special hose (depend on the stove's type)
- Try turn it on, make sure the fire is adjustable via the toggle
- Search for a recipe for what you want to cook
- Buy the resources (meat, vegetable, oil, fruit, seasoning, etc)
- Follow the recipe on how to cook your food
- Unless you know what you do, don't add weird things to your food
- Prepare a plate or bowl (depend on your food) and serve your food.
Macaroon
with cheese
Not to brag, but I have 20 years of experiences in cooking instant noodle 
Tempering yes, I rarely see someone recommend Endurance tho
Indomie
Do you have one of those instant ramen topper figurines to put on the lid?

If so, then u are deffo a pro instaramen-er

I placed bet on myself tho 
I saw like 4 people with my defs one of them gonna win surely 
you got this 
No, I'm using normal figure for that
Though I forgot where I put the figure 
looking to see if any team recs for arena/sp arena. Not alot chars yet but just wanted to see what i can do with what i have
No jackal no centi 
yea..... i heard those guys are op
My best attempts
Third team auto
oh what is this, idk what stuff like 3RL and such are... but i can understand those are the teams you recommended
it's a rough indicator of burst speed
3RL is fairly good, anything faster like 2.5 or 2RL is considered quick
ohhhhh okay
4RL is a bit slow (but at least it can burst). anything less than 4RL is basically not going to burst
in pvp bursting is key
3 seconds to burst
4 seconds to burst
gotcha thats good to know
It's not exact second so that's why we don't use it and say RL instead
there are nuances within the RL thing but for the most part it will tell you how fast the team is, different units have different burst gen figures
Yeh
rocket launchers are usually better pvp units but you need a lot of dolls 😄
makes sense lol
but you still want to build around stuff like having a DPS than can actually kill when you burst
when you get more units you can get new teams looked at
burst order does matter as does positioning to some degree as well, as in auto pve left most burst unit goes first
there is a site for the team generation stuff here: https://nikke-deck.web.app/
Create and share a GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE deck
the top most units are the higher burst gen ones, some you can't get anymore like Emilia as she was a collab unit

gotcha that make sense, its wild my bracket is insanely stacked rn so will see how far i get lol
pvp brackets are based on your start date
yea i assumed that
so if you started an account, quit for a few months and come back, you're going to be miles behind and unlikely to really catch up
makes sense, i started around 5 days ago
you should be fine
it will balance out, you can do good if you can push a bit and stay focused - main thing here actually is your campaign team progression
pushing campaign (normal + hard) unlocks more power long term due to better resources
valid, im pushing pretty well in my server rn
i made it to top 3 in campaign stages so at least doing something right lol
but thank you tho! ill hopefully get more units to make some more pvp teams later on
yeah, keep rocking the campaign stuff, Mihara comes out soon and looks like she'd make a good addition to your dps roster
yea im desperate for some dps units...
siren and crown are a great b1/b2 combo so you'll probably run those forever basically lol
lol yea i heard, lucky with the crown roll and i had no idea who she was when i started LOL
i didnt read any abilities and just autod everything and didnt know what anyone did day 1
get Naga from the 100 pt exchange thing when you can, run Crown / Siren / B3 DPS / B3 DPS / Naga
oh fr? i was holding onto my bonus draw since i wasnt sure if i should save to mlb alice or not
i still have to wait to unlock alice's diary for one more copy
get a Naga copy for sure
gotcha good to know
she's best in slot here only swapping with Treasure Helm
depending on the stage
you get 6 exchanges so MLB alice is no problem anyway
makes sense
liter is also great but I'd say Siren is the better investment for now
you also get a selector for spare alice when you get someone to 141
amazing thanks for the advice
Hungry Hippo for MA 2025? 
LOL
i.e. when you unlock her dispatch item send it from the outpost, and having Helm in your wishlist etc
and gotcha thank you! ive seen here talked about alot with the team so ill check her out
she is the highest burst gen unit in the game atm
also she has great application in pve as well
but it's high investment and I doubt you can get it done easily this early, so just try and get 3 copies of her for the treasure and work on her bond level and such
nah I'm same as railtracer here tbh I just help people out when I feel like it, no requirement to do any quota of helping 🙂
lol but thanks! i think i do have her on my wishlist actually so ill just hope for now
yeah, you can get extra copies with silver mileage at least
OH RIGHT
Little mermaid?
treasure helm
Tbh I just think the quota is just on my mind 
I hope the Mihara kit works out being good, she should be, that skin is quite something
well at least with these 3 core, i think ill upgrade their skills to the budget minimum at least then
crown is like 10/10/10 in the end tbh
and mihara gonna be great too then since shes mg with siren
siren I have at 7/10/7
naga I got at 7/7/7 but her burst is lower prio, could 7/7/4 or even 7/7/1
ooh okay
basic invest for most is 4/4/4 but you can't invest all units gotta prioritise, and mihara will want some skills as well
gotcha that makes sense, im a hoarder so i kinda forget to invest at all..
you'll never go wrong throwing skills on crown / siren / naga like this
Who do you think Helm is targetting? Scarlet who may be immune and uh Liter maybe?
crown in particular is atk boosts for your whole team as well as shielding
but if you got dps to boost up do those first, just not really worth it with your dps roster
only thing you really need to look at hoarding is the crates, but even then, I'd say it depends
Even if Helm kills liter if scarlet lives and bursts with Jackal and Trina it is over lol
Helm has ele advantage over elec linked Jackal/Scarlet though right?
By the time Helm bursts
1: Scarlet will no longer be immune
2: Scarlet will have attack stacks from skill 1
gotcha, i think for crown when i got her skills up, i did have to useu crates for the orange code manuals to get them to lvl 5
if you push the campaign then you can do higher sim room levels each day which gives you more skill books
seems like orange ones are the hardest to get
also the current drake event is crazy you'll get so many skill materials there
yea i saw! its great
She loses max HP the more she attacks?
In exchange she gets a ton of attack
are collection items worth putting on anyone outside of dps?
Helm team bursts first, kills Scarlet and another nikke probably, left wins then?
like siren or naga for example...
the core dust/battle data/credit crates are time based resources that work off your outpost level
when pepega predict to lose...we win.....when we predict to win....we win....so no lose 
so you want to push campaign to get higher outpost levels before you open them, but I'd open crates when you get stuck a bit
gotcha
but just the ones you need to
the only way pepega lose is if @delicate sequoia bet on the opposing team 
use the rental units (level 200) when you need to as well
they reset each day, taking just 1 to a fight can help a lot but don't use them if you can clear without them
yes but again selectively
Likely, yes
mainly you want to max out your dps with the dolls but I have given them to most of the units I use
gotcha
Siren is DPS trust

LOL
it's better to add a blue doll and get it to R-15 using only the blue kits
don't use the orange kits on the blue dolls
i only have one doll on alice and havent used any others
and oooh okay good to know
when you add a blue doll and upgrade it to R-15, when you swap it to a purple doll it starts at SR-5
if you add a purple doll without doing this, it's SR-0 and it's a pain to get it to SR-5
oh THATS WHY. i didnt know thats why people recommended taking them to 15 first
Ugh this round is making it hard to decide.
my rough approach
Right team may just say no to Alice and tank the entire burst with damage reduction/healing
getting from SR-5 to SR-6 before using orange kits at all is best, they improve the chance to super success at each level jump
Left all the way
gotcha good to know. did not know there were also orange dolls to worry about...
orange/SSR materials
Orange kits*
oh thank you, meant that
where possible I like to spark the level with enough kits in one go
blue kits = 200 xp
purple kits = 500 xp
orange kits = 1000 xp
SR-5 to SR-6 is 3000 xp so I like to do like:
100 blue kits = 2000 xp
20 purple kits = 1000 xp
gotcha good to know,
that 20% chance on the elite/orange kit will go from like 20% at SR-5 to 35% at SR-6
it's why you don't spam them too early on in the process 🙂
Thought rights damage reduction/healing may have been enough for them to tank Alice.
lol makes sense, ill kepe that in mind when upgrading my collection items
Well, other matches matter too
Not just round 3 
It won't 
my matches today, Railtracer thinks I might not take it due to round 3, so round 3 is important 😛
Round 5 Helm bursts first kills scarlet and another nikke.
Round 4 Cindy 2rl against blanc 4 rl team
Round 3 was unsure
Man a 4 RL blanc team is painful to look at
I see
i just realized after watcin keripo team....how similar my season 1 with his season 2 strat.....sigh.....i shudve make an improvement of existing team....not to rework the whole shet
Don't look at my cooking : Blanc cry: @dire root
can just adjust for next season 🙂
yea....will do.....will do adjustment instead of reworking it....
The blanc team in question, Idk what red hood is doing here.
Buffing 
providing B1
Blanc SBS needs buffing?
no
burst 1
Surprised a team with Centi and biscuit is a 4 Rl
who knows....1 hit counts....so as long as its not against biscuit.....1 splash = KO is almost guarantee
Well, mine does
red hood burst gen isn't that great
I didn't mean it like that, I meant why not almost any other B1 with better gen.
Also I suppose you also risk feeding jackal with any none sniper/RL weapon
jackal prob needed on og scarlet team so they couldn't spare her
I think Mica max skill + Jackal feed should do the trick to keep 2RL
pepper and sr neon burst gen is only OK compared to them
Yep, Solid team, too bad T helm ruins their day
Micaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 
Siren 3sec on 3RL surely will improve blanc indom team now....against similar 3RL.....its improving the team win chance......my problem is.....how to cook it to 3RL......goddamn 17% CS........
Wait, that Helm needs to maintain Vigor cube
i dont wanna open my indom blanc to lose on mirror match with 3RL.....i dont wanna increase my lose chance
no quantum cubes here

im tryin so hard mismatchin......blanc siren SBS but always ended up 2.5 RL or 3.5 RL.....cant land on 3RL
could do dis....but.....i wan B3 instead of Anis.....way too costy to have 2 RL booster just for blanc 
and.....dat 110.65%.....wasting 10.65%
...so inneficent
yea dat works apparently.....but goddamnitt dat will break 1 team of mine....
This is mine
hoooooooooooo tytytyyyyyyyyyyyy
wait...i need Siren 
.....i purposely wan Siren to be on Blanc team cuz it will increase the team chance to win since it....hmmm.....maybe i shud given up on dat idea and put Siren on other 3 RL team

there you go you just need 4 quantum cubes 😄
at level 7
poor blanc though hope she well built 😛
or 3 with xmaiden
Helm isn't treasured over 3 copies too 
this looks like a throwaway team to me lol
if mihara pvp viable I'm gonna try hard to use her in CA
sadly we didn't make it this season 
good luck on the next one
MP?
MG not usually great in pvp though
Left bursts first, Blanc dies. stall on indom jackal for a while then SBS wipes? Unless Blanc dies first.
It's hard for me to tell if a unit with no health buffer will just die before burst if they are in P1.
just look at the cp
Did someone share that screenshot of sequence of timings for Noah burst to hit before or after Siren stun?
I'm trying to find it again 
Yeah, much lower then everyone else, so assume lack of overloaded gear? It may be the doll.
ss'ed from gatrix sheet
70K is like low or no OL
Not jackal linked and a 3 RL team, blanc very well may be dead before burst.
I see SBS in P1 super often, I suppose because SBS normally has heavy invesment, lots of HP and gets the indom on burst with blanc.
I wont be brave enough to run P1 Jackaless ScarBS
Where?
It's CA no?
I'm runnning 4RL Underinvest Moran + Biscuit against 3 Iron DPS, can she survive?
I mean enemy is 5RL or more
So it just Biscuit Invuln against time to reach 4RL
Yeah I should just flip a coin, only 1 round I'm sure of
No....
Uuuuhhhh.... Right, you 4 RL
No
ScarBS lose her dmg against Biscuit + Defender
Actually she's not underinvest, full OL but not SR15 Doll
and burst 10? Skill 2 level 10?
Sadly No

P2 so close to 2.5 due to Cindy P1, but Blanc will still burst after 3RL mark sadly
I win against this tho
No iron
RH
Alice
Crown
Crown is defender with skills that don't inflict damage
Siren will stun La+

Biscuit invuln x2 is 10 sec
And those seconds starts before you burst
How long is 4RL
4 seconds
What about T2? this their gen at 2.5
Cindy has a clone that gives like double the burst when she is hit right? Right is 3RL and left is almost 3RL. I wonder if the splash hitting the clone will give left the boost needed.
Seems no
2RL is B3 at 3.16
2.5RL is B2 at 3.32
Seems so
RL gen * 1.25 for bonus P2 Cindy
Last one should be left lose as well
2RL vs 2.5RL
Scarlet will cast at 3.16 while Blanc will cast at 3.24
Unless there's some other delay for 2RL B3
or maybe the feeds can push the burst to 2.4 
Expert analysis on this match-up? I'm aiming for the silver frame for this season. 
Left
Left
Left
Left unless bad RNG
Right
So sweep lah 
@daring gust 
Alright all in on left
no way goated sr15 bay 
can you record that 
Sure , but you'll have to remind me
Just looked at his name , that guy was in section
, left around early 2023
Thank you 


atp my Sacc P3 has more hope to win the CA 
Surely P23 gonna die b4 3RL and make Rosa Nuke Scar + Mana 
Tell me the result too 
Pulled Biscuit on this account which is sweet, it freed up jackal for the blanc team.
Blanc jackal and SBS are a pretty strong trio
@slender forge i win with bibo i lost with sam 🏳️ rip 600gem
Anyone got a solution for this Combo.
i can beat team 2
but team 3 and 1 are being more challenging
i dont have siren or Trina (fyi)
Hobo predict on opposing team* 
i think 3 must with rossana noah biscuit thelm scarlet, but dunno difclict build
v rossana skill for kill emilia frist and laplace
bcoz rapunzel stronk. need chain thoo like privaty. with stronk sbs fast kill
opsi make them afk`rossana noah biscuit privaty sbs(must calculated brust)
but im using noah biscuit and thelm for team 2.
so if i use them for team 3 then id need a different team for T2
just try rossana for tier healing/buff. its work. but still gachi 65 maybe win :45%. but calculated brust = annoying XD
bcoz rapunzel and blanc op like tia for taunt
tia noah scarlet jackal 1 more dps/rapunzel .. me always lost on rockkie enemy comp
how about rumani for burst gen?
siren trina ein rumani ..... 1last i forrgor good
i dont have siren so...... 
with this
dont have her either which is why i cant beat this guy.
skip blanc rapunzel mostly op
cant you
scar, blanc, redhood, centi, jack
team 3 
true 🍀
or emilia blanc rh centi jack 👀 🐳 i saw people love this comp
using jackal + RH for team 2
You have higher chance both 23 and Crown ded, maybe even Rosa... And Rapu would still rev Scar...
whats the team
My team 2
Noah Biscuit Thelm RH jackal
this team also works for his team 3 but it still leaves my other team without too much Burst gen so his Cindy manages to Burst earlier
isnt your noise sr15 10 10 10
SR 10 10/10/10
team 2
noise, noah, jack, cindy, thelm
team 3
blanc, emi, sanis, redhood, biskuit
put vigor on redhood
im assuming Emi is supposed to Burst and that Sanis is just for BG?
emi burst, nice
if your emi dies, sanis burst, good
win win unless your blanc burst target dies before indom applies (on emi)
the infamous "bug"
blanc immortal bcoz biscuit💜
nope bug ah
just try hobo clue, if lost. Try again later. If season end
For experience. 👀

me vs mid with this if yolo always worth for bibbo bcoz they used rumani difficlt 50lv++ enemy

op🐳
what whale doesnt have trina and siren? 
me didnt have terina, siren have not using on arena wait miran 1 may
ah u will soon 🍀 amen
lets hope so
bricked acc
unlucky
Can you guys help me build team for SP arena
scarlet anchor:IM RH mana anis
noir rrh siren centi tia
auto
wishlist noah, cinderella, sbs, biscuit, jackal, rumani, trina
gotta back yourself sometimes eh 🙂
and here we've the war criminal instead 
lost as expected @umbral belfry
if you voted for yourself you'd have won it
you won
highly doubt so, 3 teams countered 
nah rail said it was 50/50 on match 3, and I'd lose 1/2 and win 4/5
Thank you sm
team 1 was the SG comp and on attack = no lol
lmao u cheer the opp?
@wet crystal we'll get em next time 
team 5 is the 4rl
obviously, he was gonna win
rip all majority bettors
@tropic summit i made a mistake on the team lineup, siren should have been in pos 4 instead of 5
a lesson was learned 
indeed
damn rng was on my side 
season 1 
that frame better be worth skipping on credit boxes 
I have like 2000 boxes so it is for me LMAO
@worthy sorrel grats fancy cup
good luck further on, rooting for you and ura (but pls don't fight that's too stressful for my heart)
if they do I might lose my losing border 
@tropic summit bay ate my nuke up for breakfast 
I like aesthetic stuff 
yummy 🍔
shh 
yummy scarlet nuke breakfast
it's processing
actually my sbs team failed to burst because it died to scarlet nuke 😛
the bay power
my sg team so stronk, pulled off a miracle
He predicated my prediction of 5th team being feed food 
Scarlet and SAnis 
scarlet vs scarlet, both 2 RL hahaha
Oh, I forgot to bet lol, was it a wipe out for my teams?
yeah, let's see what the next teams look like
Nah it was 2-3, so at least it wasn't a wipe out 
T2 and T5 won
In the future, make sure Bay is your only b2 or primary b2 on a team. There's not much use is she's just there for burst gen and the secondary b2 
moran and bay is a nasty combo if you wanna see my t5 loss
or noise bay
Started only reading up on my nikkes skills, like actually after setting up me season 2 team
seem like Cinderella burst really is random, I thought it was always 2 hit per Nikke in arena 
Eating up all that pvp knowledge 
Didn't even know mihara cuts down. On burst time by 5 seconds
at least this overall is good experience
my matchups for top 16, I think I'm defending so bottom one
I'm going against the guy who beat my twin 💀💀💀
Get revenge for your boy
lemme check the matchup
It's rough...
T1 SG battle not sure I'll win it, skipping that, I think I win T2, T3
he wiped last 
T4 I am not far off 2.5RL with quantum on, if I can burst quick enough with scarlet it's a maybe
T5 I def lose it
L L W L W
should i replace any of this chars for rookie arena?
cindy
she's no business being there aside from cp
Siren to counter noah
who should i swap her with, alice?
2rl counter works in rookie
@coarse solstice L ? (i don't think bay blocks sbs bc not a nuke, but helmt might snipe sbs unless their helmt is more invested? their blanc is there for nothing unless bisc dies) W L (unless blanc can get indom off in time and it hits sbs) W (but if you didn't have any feed?
)
wait their helmt might get sniped, it's max 
Exactly
Most likely a L then
I really need to scrap my HelmT B3 team it is consistently underperforming
Doesn't have enough good match ups since I can't place the teams
my next match, I think I should make top 8 unless something goes horribly wrong 
then again, wouldn't moran's taunt get helmt's snipe instead? which might make it null anyway bc bisc?
That's the hope ❤️
either way the match is most likely a L 
there's only one thing and one thing only I can suggest to you
Lock in 💪💪💪
🗣️ LOCK!!!! 🗣️ IN!!!!!
the Cindy team is a little slow but it's probably hard to make it faster with current pool
It's like Soldier OW is a troll
looks decent, I personally like trina in p4 just in case (potential more lap+ next CA), but with your set up you're pretty much forced into it. maybe p3?
Yeah squishy batteries make things rough
for my matches?
I still think your moran bay helmt was fine, but noise and bay is good too
indom noise blanc sbs seems interesting
I didn't know how lethal that team could be
problem is 3RL Bay Cindy is too slow to catch 2RL Scarlet and still loses to 3RL Blanc SBS
yeah 3 rl bay is meh
damn what'd they do 😭
I do think the Biscuit Noah team can be slower, so you can move HelmT over
call him a bully! 😮
Nothing but I gotta put in some work and see what teams need investment

Hime look what I got 👀
mihara soon ™️
lapt+ does seem like a decent goal to reach


















