pvp-arena

[umbral belfry]

too low

[coarse solstice]

[tropic summit]

good on 3RL teams, won't stun in time against 2RL teams

are you by any chance having a rumani down there where we can't see? or a trina

[swift mango]

She actually can stun against 2rl teams. B2 even if the team doesn't have any CS.

[shell hazel]

where is my Rumani.... ?

[swift mango]

Ask Kosmiu.

[shell hazel]

Rumani doko!

[tropic summit]

still in the pool waiting to be fished, clearly you're not trying hard enough

[shell hazel]

not swiping hard enough you mean

[tropic summit]

💳

[unkempt flame]

Yea I have rumani but I don't have mats to invest into her right now

Don't have trina

[umbral belfry]

they're all apart of my mlb rumani

[shell hazel]

typical Hime-sama, always taking my Rumani

sasuga

[tropic summit]

sbs blanc rh centi jackal
noise rapu cind helm noah
crown alice rrh ssakura drake (temp CP pad team)

cubes:

quantum on centi, jackal
vigor on rapunzel, noise, blanc
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

notes:
wishlist/build biscuit, trina, rumani
once rumani is 4/4/4, 2OL, doll R5-R15, go for the team with the green arrow as a direct improvement (you burst 1 threshold faster)

until you've biscuit, run CP pad team as 3rd team

[unkempt flame]

Thank you🙏 🙏 I also have this new years selection box , do you think I should just get biscuit from it?

[tropic summit]

T1: loses to scarlet mirror, needs heavy feed to get to 2RL, better returning drake here
T2: 4RL cindy, too slow, CA win rate of cindy 3RL is already 44%, 4RL is even lower
T3: unprotected noah, risky
T4: decent SG pressure... but 3.5RL
T5: decent

[tropic summit]

ask this in https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/946720097031045161, might be better to focus on pve (for now) depending on your campaign progression

[unkempt flame]

Ok ty

[swift mango]

I think I will just chill and save 200 rocks. No reason to reroll if all I got is trash.

My whale now added more skill level and OL/reroll more I guess. 2*2RL teams that are hard for me to be in range now.

Time to stop trying and save rocks.

[oak gale]

@umbral belfry @tropic summit helm doll stage 3 activated , 10 10 10

[tropic summit]

that sounds like something a coward would say

although i understand the PTSD from rocks

as i'm doing the exact same

[tropic summit]

good job sir, now you can go slay dragons

[oak gale]

not so fast
lord of the pvp
rail the tracer
what is your opinion of siren

[swift mango]

His team are 2.5m at level 421. 2 teams 2rl high CP, another 3rl lower cp. There are no beating him now with the CP I got 60 level lower than him.

Dude is a competent Arena player now

[tropic summit]

i wonder who trained them by beating them over and over

[swift mango]

I just need to fix my Noah and Jackal CP to beat him but ya know, no rock.

Even when I do, only trash result. The game hate me now so I might as well give up.

Last 3 months I tried to fixed Jackal and Noah CP but all I got are tier 1-5 lines.

Now with CA come it's even more pointless

[oak gale]

not the bubbles

[swift mango]

Seeing people spent 1 rock a piece and more CP than I spent 50 a piece is just sad.

At same level I mean.

[umbral belfry]

[restive willow]

Might be late, but it looks like Siren can reliably stun 2RL noah by 1 frame (in 30fps because pvp)

So... 1 CS on all pvp launchers I guess

[oak gale]

i have become the thing i swore to destroy
that mf is doing damage that is simmilar to my cinderella-

[keen vapor]

[restive willow]

2RL sounds like 2 seconds, but there's a 8 frame projectile delay, 12 frame burst activation delay, and 15 frame b1->b2 delay, so the actual 2RL b2 timing is 1 frame after siren's 50th shot

[tropic summit]

in both rookie and SParena or only rookie?

because people have been getting different results in rookie

[restive willow]

I was recording in rookie arena

[swift mango]

Just update Arknight and pulled. 0.7% banner for the uprate limited, got the uprate limited unit in 54 pulls. And that game's dupes are useless 99% the time. Yeah, this game hate me now.

guess it's behavior tracking. When I was playing Arknight lots I never got such luck.

[restive willow]

But in rookie i presume it's CS difference

[tropic summit]

uh that's interesting new data

[restive willow]

3.34% CS is enough to bump that 1 frame

And not even on all RL. RL units on 4th or 5th positions don't have the 1 frame issue because they are physically closer to opponent's 1st position

All in all, CS on RLs in the first three slots = frame advance before Siren

[oak gale]

look at dat damaj @umbral belfry

[swift mango]

The only way for me to be better in this game is to stop playing it anymore than casual I guess. That's when my luck improved.

[tropic summit]

game is nerfing you because you min/maxing dispatch rerolls

[swift mango]

It become routine now so it shouldn't affect much. If I always gem claim then it's become the norm.

[brave canyon]

Hi everyone, was wondering if I could get some help with an SP Arena team and possibly a Champion's Arena team if possible. Thanks for the help in advance!

[tropic summit]

based on the invest, can tell you've been trying in PvP

gonna work with these

no scarlet gonna suck for your CA experience tho

[umbral belfry]

the best girls

[brave canyon]

I'm saving tickets hoping she'll come on banner someday or just get her randomly by chance.

[spiral onyx]

laughs in 17% CS on all my RLs

[oak gale]

also rail @tropic summit opinion on siren?

[tropic summit]

CA team

[tropic summit]

SParena

[tropic summit]

can't say yet, if anything she's going to be another variable to consider

CA will show whether she can stun in 2RL or 3RL

[kind palm]

I'll be using her with my 3RL cin team

[oak gale]

but shes valid in pvp right?

[brave canyon]

Appreciate it! Thank you very much, I'll try them out.

[kind palm]

not that valid on defender side imo

[bleak shale]

did we see any desync win/loss in rookie yet?

[tropic summit]

if ppl is running p1 3RL noah into her, she stuns noah and denies the entire thing, so ye it kinda is valid

[tropic summit]

hmm can't say i've seen any yet

[bleak shale]

also i sus champ arena will be the same as sp arena because how will they know our setting if we dont even get to click play

[oak gale]

i see , thanks

[quick lake]

They gonna close CA for maintenance

[kind palm]

Siren makes atk favored pvp more atk favored

let's see the real or fake 30fps arena

[tropic summit]

no problemo, consider investing in the following that seem on the lower end of CP but still vital:

[quick lake]

Siren was a pvp mistake

[kind palm]

mihara will be crazy

[quick lake]

dk what devs cooking

Sweaty spa just got sweatier

[bleak shale]

siren pvp was predicted tbh as soon as we got the kit

[tropic summit]

there's hope... in the survey they added the option of increasing entry to CA at least...

[keen vapor]

Huh? I'm obligated to get her now?

[quick lake]

1copy for pve too

[kind palm]

siren is sealing away a lot of slow comp in sp

[quick lake]

echo hoarding again

[strange rain]

please help me build 5 teams for champion arena finally got helm treasure also : )

[keen vapor]

[kind palm]

back to the real sp pvp meta CP GAP
go get that 102 core dusts per hour

[quick lake]

honestly still don’t know how she works after reading

[keen vapor]

Hoarding is no more, time to quick battle everything

[quick lake]

will wait for her release

[kind palm]

mihara start battle apply debuff to random enemies(expected all)
mihara die
all debuff become maxed stacks
so lots of sustained damage

[tropic summit]

reading those nikke skill descriptions is harder than studying philosophy

[quick lake]

That’s kinda game breaking

[spiral onyx]

I'll be running Siren as my T5 wildcard for CA S2. We'll see how it plays out.

[tropic summit]

already fully maxed

[strange rain]

can you help me please with team building please? I've posted above

[kind palm]

I fear my siren will die to scar counter I SR15 her doll
and equip tempering

[unique wagon]

Strong for delaying enemy Scarlet wipe with Cindy or perhaps interrupting slow Moran/Noah or making enemy use the wrong B2/B3 or delaying their chain even.

[spiral onyx]

Ngl though, the "Road to Villan" things saved my arse by giving me enough doll mats to treasure my Drake

[unique wagon]

I think she is helpful counter unit to counter the counter to your team's weakness.

[lime night]

Thinking of using this for champion arena, would anyone have any suggestions? (no laplace item)

[kind palm]

best villain keeps giving

[unique wagon]

Team 3 is weak.

Team 1 is Siren-able, and ur Noir will burst instead.

Team 3 isn't exactly weak, though, but CS/SG targeting can f u up.

[spiral onyx]

Burst gen is the main issue though. Siren is a wildcard counter unit, just like Soda and OG Sakura and Makina. You are gambling with a unit who has very low burst gen and therefore would otherwise be a detriment to the team. It's a yolo move imo for CA where you don't pick your attack teams.

[unique wagon]

A wildcard counter unit is strong.

Makima isn't that reliable.

[kind palm]

makima is the most reliable guarantee B2 but her gen is ass

[unique wagon]

Siren counters most if not all 3 RL and some 2 RL.

Makima only counters Shotguns.

[lime night]

is there any suggestions on how i can improve the teams?

i do have a few other comps in mind but since my Moran/Bay isn't that strong this is the best i could come with

[kind palm]

I really want to give biscuit invul to B1 and B3 defender but makima will usually steal it or make the team too slow

[unique wagon]

She counters too many teams and can be set up to counter counter teams.

She is not exactly strong against bruteforces/random ahh teams that work tho.

Like 5 SG.

[unique wagon]

Nah, it's decent tbh.

But I am not well versed with non common CA teams.

[spiral onyx]

I wouldn't say that so strongly.
The existence of Siren simply means people will need to start building teams that don't heavily depend on their P1 or uses a 2RL B1 in P1. Just like how the existence of SG teams means people need to build teams that have a protected P5. Just like how the existence of OG Sakura means people need to build teams (in rookie/SP) that don't burst with Scalter or Rei2. Just like how the existence of Scarlet Jackal means people need to avoid using MGs/SMGs/SGs without Rosanna.

All in all, it's just another factor to take into consideration for defence team building

In CA, because you don't pick your attack teams, running a wildcard counter becomes risky so eventually CA teams will become standardized and cookie cutters setups once we figure out the ideal comps that are least vulnerable to all these potential counters. After which CA just becomes a pure RNG rock paper scissors game

We will see a bit of "cookie cutter" team comps this CA S2 I think, but we will definitely see a lot of it in S3 and beyond

[lime night]

Thanks! yeah CA is still quite new i only had a few looks on last season's winners comps and created what i could

[hushed kelp]

Are people really moving scar out of p1 to avoid siren?

[late tiger]

Rumani, bsoda, poli, pepper, drake sr10 or s.anis sr15
With drake 2.5rl, skills 10/5/6
Or s.anis 3rl, 10/10/10
What is better for SG team?

[jagged mesa]

@umbral belfry @wet crystal on my way to my 3rd pity out of 3 dolls, im not gonna get Thelm for a year at this point

no pvp units either so im totally cooked for CA

[wet crystal]

I'll make one team and then have an ai make the rest of my teams

[wet crystal]

at least the drake event has a lot of the doll mats

[jagged mesa]

do i need to use it on drake to get the rest of the rewards tho

[wet crystal]

I'm only missing 2 challenges on the event, sr15 and treasure worth 500 point total, so most of the remaining points will be from dailies and weeklies ig

unless it resets

I'm thinking of using the mats for laplace instead, idk

if mihara will be all I need to push missilis tower, maybe I'll invest the mats on drake after all

[shell hazel]

got time I think, I'll look at drake treasure probably for solo raid next

[wet crystal]

oh it's fire next?

[shell hazel]

I think so

[umbral belfry]

may you be blessed

I'm aiming for lap+ treasure next personally

but the event helped me get sr15 on rh, scar, and cindy so thanks best villain

[wet crystal]

@jagged mesa this the kinda luck u need

[umbral belfry]

😭

me when i gobble up ash's luck

[jagged mesa]

im actually thinking

do i need to spent drake's event materials on drake herself to finish the full event

kinda like alice diary at the start

cuz im kinda worried that i use all of it and cant even get one unit to sr15, and then i time out on drake herself too

cuz i have a lot of units i wanna upgrade

crown SR5 -> SR15
rrh SR12 -> SR15
RH SR5 -> SR15
cindy SR5 -> SR15
Siren R0 -> SR15
Thelm R0 -> SR15
drake R0 -> SR15

that's my order lmao

so im nowhere close

and then there's mihara too

[wet crystal]

if that's the order then its not gonna be enough for sure, unless you can super success with the purples

[jagged mesa]

the way things are going i doubt i can even finish one

i mean i already did use drake's materials for RRH, and all i got was from SR10 to SR12 1000exp

[wet crystal]

how's it going on the other acc?

[jagged mesa]

i got siren from R0 to SR5 in 40 blue kits lmao, of course...

that other account is over 3x better off than this one

i also pulled 2x siren from one muli on that account now

if i pull crown on that acc, it regains main status

[wet crystal]

May your mihara pull be blessed with a crown

Cuz this acc might be cooked

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit 🙂

[jagged mesa]

yeah it might really be cooked just because of dolls

[jagged mesa]

you gonna go for dupes for siren/mihara?

[wet crystal]

Mihara one pull, MLB mileage

[jagged mesa]

dang you got 600 tickets saved up?

[wet crystal]

... rngesus didn't bless me with an early Siren

[jagged mesa]

how many pulls did you do...

i have a third account just casual but that one didnt get siren in 240 pulls

tbh it looks to me like siren is more worth mlb than mihara

siren is absolutely destroying RRH and liter in my tests, even with only one mg (crown)

[oak gale]

wins?

[wet crystal]

I feel like it's Top wins?

[jagged mesa]

also does anybody know if the new fire-rate option makes a different for pvp, or if the pvp engine runs it by default?

[oak gale]

bubbles

[strange rain]

position ok here ?

[oak gale]

you need a second burst I , because tia bursts u back to burst I phrase and rapi doesnt activate unless there is no one in burst I

[wet crystal]

I'm gonna do a good job getting that silver gamba frame in CA

[strange rain]

she dose

[oak gale]

she does?

[strange rain]

u can use tia rapi red hood yes

[oak gale]

💀 lmao

[oak gale]

didnt think it was available

[strange rain]

but not with other burst 1s

[oak gale]

in that case it should work with bunny alice?

[strange rain]

maybe didnt try it

but it should if she works as tia

[high stream]

I once again ask for your help for PvP ..

Single strongest team for SP Arena .. and 3 teams for champion

[grand plaza]

Does Quantum cube also gives bonus burst gen to Jackal's skill?

[umbral belfry]

you had to be at least synchro level 200 for CA no? maybe i read it wrong

[placid breach]

Well I guess hitting lv 421 power boost help

Gonna be worst for them bc I haven't use me dust XD

[high stream]

Oh .. I mean SP Arena and whatever the other one is called. Not the champion one.

The one that gives gems every 2 weeks

[placid breach]

Why your Cindy and scarlet lv 1 T-T

[high stream]

Cause I pulled them both today .. Red Hood as well, Modernia too .. bunnies too. Hence why I'm now asking here

[placid breach]

Bunnies,RH, Scarlet and Cindy very useful in arena

[high stream]

I know that from pvp tierlist .. but I'm not sure when it comes to actually putting the teams together

I know for example that Scarlet and Trina are really good together .. but not what else to put in there

And how to best distribute my nikke across 3 teams

And when it comes to positioning I'm genuinely completely lost

[fathom sparrow]

Does anyone know if Little Mermaid stuns in PVP arena?

[rough aspen]

She does.

[grand plaza]

[raven plover]

yes

[grand plaza]

Thank you 👍

[tropic summit]

considering what you've that's a pretty good starting point pvp wise

keep in mind you best focus on campaign early on and get through lvl 160 wall, either way taking a look

[high stream]

I'm breaking 160 wall this anniversary. Waiting for Mihara release and then that wall gonna fall

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit alice liter naga
centi trina sbs rh tia
auto

once you unlock more nikke you can make a 3rd team, nikke that are currently lv 1 make sure you put them into synchro, they don't need to be too well invested so dw

[high stream]

Not normal Scarlet with Trina?

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[tropic summit]

once you've resources to spare for her you could, atm she'd be just too weak

[high stream]

Gotcha

[tropic summit]

you need to consider CP aswell for teams, if enemy hits you with 15.4% deficit your teams become essentially useless, no matter how strong

this is what you want to avoid, so it's best using a combination of PvP core units with invested PvE units

there are some units that are great at both, like RH or SBS

[high stream]

Hmm .. I see

[late tiger]

Rumani, bsoda, poli, pepper, drake sr10 or s.anis sr15
With drake 2.5rl, skills 10/5/6 264k CP
Or s.anis 3rl, 10/10/10 275k CP
What is better for SG team?

[wheat heart]

why not both

[tropic summit]

scarlet mari liter noir jackal (move mari in p3 if she's barely built, liter in p2)
noise rumani anchor:IM cindy drake
centi biscuit ein rh bsoda
naga rrh pepper helmt tia
alice viper siren anis mana

notes:

-quantum on jackal to hit 3RL threshold
-vigor on noise, biscuit, pepper

any other nikke run any high lvl cube left

you'll need to put in synchro the following used: bsoda, drake, mana, viper, anis

suggested to wishlist/get asap noah and blanc

[strange rain]

Thanks! champion doesn’t need syncro no ?

[wheat heart]

do you all think this will be usable in champions or does it really need to be 3RL

could also use mana instead of rap

[tropic summit]

correct, although you'll want to invest a bit in them

4/4/4, 2OL (body and head), R5-R15 doll

[late tiger]

Cuz i would have to remove rumani and only end up with 1 x b1, runjing the risk of not bursting at all

And when i reshuffle to avoid pepper in p1 for not losing burst possibility, any of the attacker options would die quite fast

[tropic summit]

that would win against 3RL mirror ironically, because your sustain runs out for last and s.anis cannot lethal immediatly

but ye you'd want 3RL, opponent will be on B3 while you're on B1

if it's an instant nuke, your team may fail before s.anis gets going with lifesteal

[strange rain]

In all of them ?

[wheat heart]

yeah that's what i was afraid of

thanks for your help

[tropic summit]

ideally...

any of those that are in p1 or p2 you'd want some OL, those in p3 or p4 you can leave them almost bare

[strange rain]

Np thanks for the help!

[tropic summit]

considering your synchro, don't go overboard on pvp units anyway, focus on the bits you can afford

[strange rain]

My campaign team is pretty maxxed so i have mats to spare on pvp

[cursive pike]

how much resources to put into Rosanna for pvp champions arena?

[tropic summit]

7/10/10 SR5-SR15, atk 30-40%, is considered to be ideal

crit rate and extra atk% can also add further value

[wheat heart]

i dunno how keripo said he had three 2RL teams. I have 38% emilia and I can't even build that...

[tropic summit]

1. abuse jackal and scarlet feed
2. use correctly clip RL and 38% emilia

[wheat heart]

ah i see. scarlet jackal

[tropic summit]

a very simple example with flex SBS

while team may appear 2.5RL, minimun amount of feed on either p1, p2 or p5 will kick team into 2RL

scarlet s2 also gives burst gen, so if enemy runs even just 1 AR, you gain a lot

scarlet generally can safely be around 90-95% gen and hit 2RL

that saves you a clip RL to hit natural 2RL

[wheat heart]

that was the missing link. thank you so much @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

you welcome

[tropic summit]

to wrap it up, an example of 3 2RL teams

[cursive pike]

booo. no ol rocks left and not sure i have enough for sr5. maybe next season.

[tropic summit]

in this example you still have rosanna (sacc), xmaiden anis and several clip SG open to mess with for the other 2 teams

[tropic summit]

well there's always next seasons, start saving up

[smoky snow]

@atomic wolf bonked to 4

[umbral crown]

Its what i told to myself last CA

[frail marsh]

Not enough mats to ol

[umbral crown]

Happens

[atomic wolf]

he's trading with me btw

you can't beat him anymore or something?

[smoky snow]

I've already hit him

He's refreshing a lot

[atomic wolf]

he's in this server and camping

[smoky snow]

And I am not gonna fall for that lol

[atomic wolf]

if you're not aware

[smoky snow]

[atomic wolf]

for now just avoid going top 2

he is not gonna give up, you will just waste attempts

let me trade with him so you scale at top 3

[smoky snow]

I'm just here to play a game, not sweat over PvP rage

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

[atomic wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1161222746664091700.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=topkek

for me it's about sending a message

[smoky snow]

LOL

[atomic wolf]

otherwise i wouldn't be trading with him

[umbral crown]

You need to make sure your message is delivered

I miss thise time of trading with someone

[atomic wolf]

3k isn't going to be as much painful when he is supposedly losing double of that

[umbral crown]

Pvp was fun back then, now just people forgetting i exist

[atomic wolf]

eh i prefer it when it is peaceful

since i'm only focusing pve

[umbral crown]

But then you lack pvp action and if you are not active in pvp channels your knowlegde gonna get rusty uwu

[atomic wolf]

when it comes to minmaxing

all i needed is to win, not to have challenges in a game where the people pays more wins easier

@tropic summit

you there?

[umbral crown]

[atomic wolf]

@umbral crownactually can you cook

need to DM real quick

[umbral crown]

its been a while since i cooked for someone , the lack of pvp is real

[atomic wolf]

nevermind then, i wanted to see if you can tweak CA a bit

[wicked burrow]

@tropic summit I got rumami from the mold so my union-mate suggested swapping teams a bit (noah goes to the last team) is it worth it?

p5 like this

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

If you trust your noah to survive till burst , go for it

[wicked burrow]

she's kinda strong

high cp, full ol with many 3 lines, dmg rez cube

so I believe she can

[tardy bone]

What is that app? or website?

[unkempt kestrel]

does CA even give anything besides frame?

[raven plover]

no

OnlyFrame

[umbral crown]

then it s fine

[umbral crown]

credits and experience

[umbral crown]

what about the credits

they should add doll kits

[raven plover]

[umbral crown]

i was lacking credits to level up

hahhaha they came in a good time

[oblique ridge]

Hi

[tardy bone]

Hello, could someone help me update the teams i could use on pvp? https://imgur.com/a/XAJlF6F

I can build any unit if needed.

[oblique ridge]

Anyone with CA teams recommendation that should get me to break out of groups and maybe top 64 as long as I don’t run into somebody that took recommendations from chefs here? I have all characters but no significant investments in pvp.

If someone wants me to test a cook in CA that’s fine too. I just don’t want to think pvp

[tardy bone]

Lol ok not that image, the imgur link has all the pictures

[wooden vapor]

howwwwwww

[raven plover]

is that with fire rate lock

[wooden vapor]

Wym?

[oblique ridge]

Noah was stunned here. No invuln on team. RIP

[wooden vapor]

Well I knew they but how did she get stunned?

[oblique ridge]

Siren has a stun on whoever is in p1

I think it takes like 3.3 seconds to activate

If you check battle clock in top right, it’s been 4 seconds (3~ actually)

[astral kayak]

taunt as well

[wooden vapor]

Cooked my whole comp

I gotta up fire rate maybe?

[oblique ridge]

You basically need to have Noah pop invuln faster to avoid this scenario, I guess

[astral kayak]

burst before siren proc stun

[oblique ridge]

Which, I guess, means the team needs to move the XRL speed down more… by another 0.5 maybe?

[raven plover]

did you turn it on

[astral kayak]

does this works on pvp?

[raven plover]

rookie yes, SP no

[oblique ridge]

wut

[raven plover]

rookie it makes siren stun earlier

[oblique ridge]

It impacts Rookie?

[raven plover]

SP no its after b2

[oblique ridge]

Wth

[astral kayak]

[raven plover]

yea just like the p2 empty strat, it only works on rookie. doesnt work on SP and CA

[oblique ridge]

@wooden vapor Did you see the above?

[oblique ridge]

This to be exact

[raven plover]

someone also claimed once you turn it on, for some reason it stays even after you restart app and turned off the setting

here

[oblique ridge]

[astral kayak]

interesting brick rookie

[limber patrol]

Does full mg team work with siren?

Let's say there's no jackal feed

What RL rating would it have?

[placid bloom]

not at 30fps

[placid bloom]

that doesn't work in SPA

[limber patrol]

[placid bloom]

it works in rookie but Idk if that's intended

[astral kayak]

make me curious if coop works with this

[limber patrol]

Well at 60fps, how would it work?

[tardy bone]

Dont forget about me 🥹 #help

[limber patrol]

Too early for you

[tardy bone]

[limber patrol]

Get more characters and level before trying pvp seriously.
Focus on pushing campaign

[wooden vapor]

My bad I’m getting my food

[placid bloom]

should be more than around 3-4RL I think, if we just double the bullet count and burst gen to 60fps you get 1 Siren proc at 2RL but that's not enough to reach 100% gauge

[wooden vapor]

How will this help me

[placid bloom]

so at 2RL you get around 20-ish gauge from shooting and 37% from proc

[tardy bone]

Oh no, check the imgur, I almost have all the characters, and im lvl 301 rn, the first image showcase the last image I sent on the imgurt

[oblique ridge]

Basically turn it off then clear game cache (Clear Cache is shown when you load the game and it asks you to tap to enter game)

[raven plover]

if its not turned on, siren stun slower, you can b2 noah

[oblique ridge]

And HOPEFULLY it stops making Siren stun your Noah faster than her invuln, in Rookie arena

[placid bloom]

at 3RL it's like 47% gauge from shooting and still only 1 proc, you get a second proc a bit after 3RL when you hit 800 bullet count

[oblique ridge]

Idk if you want to bother doing this though

[placid bloom]

so you'd be between 3RL and 3.5RL I think

[limber patrol]

Wait Siren good for pvp?

[raven plover]

siren stun anything on p1

if no cs involved, she can stop scar 2RL but its tight

[limber patrol]

How about burst gen?

[placid bloom]

ye but only faster than 2RL on rookie atm so don't have high hopes that it beats 2RL in CA

[raven plover]

miranda level

[placid bloom]

it's good into 3RL though

[limber patrol]

She never gets the 37%?

Do I have to use Helm to help?

[raven plover]

you need x bullets for that tho right

[placid bloom]

4MG + Siren gets 400 bullet at 2RL if 60 fps

but you don't actually gen the remaining 63% needed with your shots

so there's no point, you still need a second proc

[limber patrol]

Can it work on my:
Moran
Biscuit
RRH
Siren
Helm (max full power super seyaying)
?

[tardy bone]

Ok that is what I have, I was thinking imgur was a better idea but yeah

[placid bloom]

just Rapi alone is too low bullet count to proc before 3RL

even at 60fps

[tardy bone]

What teams I could build?

[placid bloom]

if you're using Siren it's gonna be for the stun not for the burst gen

[raven plover]

that team is 4 RL, you wont get enough bullets for the 37%, you also feed scar jack a lot so chance they b3 earlier than you

solo b1 gonna be easy with siren, a free win on CA if they meet... as long as its not cracked SG team

[oblique ridge]

But MGs into Scarlet Jackal

[placid bloom]

it was a theory thing not a practical thing

doesn't work even in theory though

[wooden vapor]

That’s the thing it’s been turned off😭

[oblique ridge]

RIP

[wooden vapor]

So what now I need to run Siren😭

[astral kayak]

you just need a faster comp

[wooden vapor]

That comp shreds idk how to make it faster

Or if I should change up OL

[crystal flicker]

Sacc her

[wooden vapor]

Sacc?

[half grail]

What’s Little Mermaid looking like for PvP right now?

[spiral onyx]

Wildcard

[half grail]

Nvm all I’m seeing her burst Gen not it but her stun seem interesting

[crystal flicker]

Rosanna is 777 yes?

She is, the whole point of Siren in PvP just to stun P1, which if it happened to be Noah or any main burst chain it'll be a Jackpot

[astral kayak]

hit or miss unit anyway lol

[raven plover]

no sacc 7 1 10
sacc 7 10 10

theres no 777

[astral kayak]

my guess most people gonna play siren card on 1st or 2nd comp

[raven plover]

me who use the same comps from last CA :

[oblique ridge]

If both players invest in best 3 comps, no matter how they line the teams up, there will always be at least 1 clash between both players’ main 3 comps.

If it turns out to be Siren comp, will it suck for you?

That’s what you’re basically trying to avoid

[astral kayak]

avoid placement your main dps on 1st slot, you are save p much lol

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/tmnt-he-right-right-correct-teeneage-mutant-ninja-turtles-gif-21162125

[frozen nebula]

Can a pvp genius help me build a team for CA?

[primal charm]

B2 at which speed? 2rl

Or 3

[raven plover]

yes 2 RL

[primal charm]

I dont get it, is my p1 noah safe in my 2rl comp if no cs evolved

Spa

[raven plover]

yes

[primal charm]

Thanks god

[keen vapor]

How

[raven plover]

siren stun slower on spa

your b2 gonna make it

[crystal flicker]

How

Is it too slow

[umbral crown]

we saw that ura

[coarse solstice]

Lol 🤣 oh well

[umbral crown]

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-kanako-you-didnt-screenshot-it-gif-27527784

[umbral crown]

i could have

but im not used to do that

[raven plover]

[umbral crown]

before i could have even saved the pic

but its all in the past

[crystal flicker]

1RL

Sadly I can't test proper comp on Rookie, and SP just trading spot with Whale

Do you think this just 2RL?

[swift mango]

no

[crystal flicker]

I was wondering if I should just slap Rosa in this comp or make her own sacc comp

[sick gulch]

so what does a mermaid stun comp look like?

[tardy bone]

#help

[crystal flicker]

This will be 3RL if P23 sacc happened b4 3RL

[crystal flicker]

Am I blind or this Whale is Trinaless

[tardy bone]

yeah... I dont have her

[crystal flicker]

For SP I guess the best for her to fight 3RL comp, esp P1 Noah
You can slot her in Cindy comp to help counter Noah or Any P1 carry except Scarlet (She'll feed and die)

[graceful grotto]

There's a website

Showing the rank of burst gen, what was it again?

[quick lake]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/
can check burst gen here

[leaden canyon]

Liter is in place of siren, for the sbs team I'm flip flopping on rapunzel or hood

also any ideas on the rosanna team

[crystal flicker]

First thing first, you need to invest to these Nikkes

DPS:

Scarlet > Cindy > SAnis
Burst battery:
Noah > Anis (SR) > Centi > Rumani
Buffer:
Biscuit > Noise > Rapunzel

Additional:

Rosanna (Scarlet Jackal counter), Noir & Pepper & Soda (Battery), Moran & Nero (Stall comp), DrakeT (DPS + Battery)

DPS = Battery > Buffer
Minimum 4OL lv0 & 4/4/4 skills

---

The comp you can use for now (Till the Nikke(s) above invested):
Noah Pepper Cindy HelmT LapT (2RL)
Scarlet Blanc RH Noir Jackal (2.5 RL)
Crown Naga ReiT/SAnis Siren Centi (4RL CP pad)

Notes:

• T1 Get Noah to minimum investment asap, ideally want Noise instead of Pepper
• T2 can be 2RL if you replace Noir with another clip RL (Anis/Centi/Rumani), even better if you have Trina
• T3 I just make CP Pad team that still able to reach full burst at 4RL with Siren stun P1

[crystal flicker]

Tbh I don't think that BSoda gonna sacc b4 3RL

[raven plover]

depends how strong the enemy dps yea

[leaden canyon]

true

idk what else i could do though

without weakening my other teams

Also rapunzel or hood for sbs team?

sbs SR 15 doll

Might be fine without rapu in p1

[crystal flicker]

#pvp-arena message
You don't see my sacc meme

[elder cosmos]

would appreciate is someone checks this
i'm just generally not into pvp and don't have the time to learn how to build teams there, i plan to do that in the future when i'll have 2-3 more pvp nikkes, but not currently, sorry about that

[crystal flicker]

Should invest to Scarlet Trina and try to get HelmT asap

[dim sapphire]

whiff a thing in ca ?

[crystal flicker]

Maybe the CP will be a bit low
ScarBS Blanc Noir Naga Jackal
Noah Biscuit Cindy Rapunzel Maiden

Scarlet Trina and Centi Rumani can be used if their CP isn't too low

[bleak shale]

as far as i have seen, no unless some1 literally dies while the rocket is traveling

tbh i havent seen whiffs in a while now

[dim sapphire]

theres no penalty for champ pvp right?

[crystal flicker]

yes

[white zephyr]

hello

what's our kraken team with siren

[elder cosmos]

looks fine to me, my previous team was kinda randomly just slapped there, thanks for the help mate

[crystal flicker]

Def need to work with Noah comp to close that cp loss

[elder cosmos]

sure, i'll do that at some point, i'm almost done with upgrading my "important" nikkes currently, Siren and Mihara included

so i'll swap to upgrade core pvp nikkes at that

[quartz prawn]

can i steal ur ca teams

[crystal flicker]

No, I haven't even finished making it

If you scroll my message there, you'll see my ~~meme ~~draft

[quartz prawn]

im cooked

[elder cosmos]

i just love how on my current position people are using strong team 1 and meh team 2 and 3, so it's just funny to always throw out players stronger than me

[crystal flicker]

Also Siren usable in PvP, maybe replace Rapunzel if you have built Centi/Anis/Rumani there

[quartz prawn]

i took most of this from snake, but switched a few things around.
siren in place of liter.
hope im not trolling

[crystal flicker]

T5 is brick if your Drake treasured

Coz DrakeT > BSoda

[quartz prawn]

yeah its treasure

[elder cosmos]

i just got Centi and i never bothered with Anis and Rumani, i'll try to push them a bit later
lmk if you don't mind getting tagged in approx a couple weeks

[crystal flicker]

You should burst with her instead

[oblique ridge]

In Scarlet Jackal team, is it necessary for p2 to be in the link?

[quartz prawn]

interesting
snakes team had it in this order with treasure drake as well

[crystal flicker]

It's early pvp, you just need to invest for a while

[oblique ridge]

What do I give up if p2 isn't in the link?

[elder cosmos]

exactly, also i don't mind getting pinged, please do since i don't always notice the messages
that's why i asked if you don't mind getting pinged a bit while later, cause probably i'll do that when i'll have decent invest

[crystal flicker]

That just Nuke

[crystal flicker]

You can always ask there, if not me, other will answer most of the time

[quartz prawn]

ill believe in u
im assuming "within attack range" in pvp will hit everyone.
never used drake be4

[crystal flicker]

If you're brave enough, though maybe I should change RH with Nuke

[quartz prawn]

the sacc strat
i dont have a built rosanna to copy

[crystal flicker]

Tbh Idk how big the real dmg diff between BSoda and TDrake, but some ppl use DrakeT as P1 in SG CA comp

[quartz prawn]

kinda scary
i hope p1 drake can survive, but 2.5 rl seems sketch

[spiral onyx]

Drake does a single target nuke

Not ideal

[quartz prawn]

i see, ty. that wouldve been a disaster

[crystal flicker]

It's gamble

[elder cosmos]

i mean, so far when i was here no matter when i asked i either got an answer that didn't quite help me, i.e. they were trying to teach me how to do pvp which didn't really align with me, or just simply never answered

[oblique ridge]

Is there a negative to Bunny Soda AoE nuke burst if she happens to activate it in SG team?

Since for some reason I only see Drake bursting, if not some other SG

[spiral onyx]

What do you mean "negative"?

So Drake+ hits a single target very hard

Likely 1 shot

Whereas BSoda hits the entire event team decently hard

Not one shot but still hard, maybe 50% HP

So it's up to your team strat

Are you trying to skill the enemy team 1 by 1

Or are you mass spraying and hoping you kill them all fast enough

Secure that kill or weaken the whole

Personally I think killing 1 by 1 is a weak strat

You just blew your load on 1 unit who isn't even guaranteed to be an important unit

And SG team has zero survivability

So even if you took down one unit, if it wasn't a key unit, you are likely going to lose

Even if it was a key unit, you still might lose cause their burst is more damaging than yours

[oblique ridge]

Oh, makes sense

And even if Bunny Soda AoE'd team, it might not kill anyone

It's less about SGs bursting and more about whether they successfully yolo'd enemy team apart

[rich fiber]

Does TDrake hit a jackal link hard enough to kill all 3?

[oblique ridge]

I think so, 3,000%

[spiral onyx]

SG teams are about yoloing

You hit them hard and fast and hope that you kill someone important

[oblique ridge]

Basically all 3 are unlikely to survive 1,000% atk from a built attacker Drake treasure (3k divided by 3) without help, I guess

[spiral onyx]

They will actually

[oblique ridge]

I'm not sure Drake nuke is insta hit though?

[spiral onyx]

1000% damage is the equivalent of an unbuffed MPrivaty nuke

[oblique ridge]

Since in normal battles it takes it a second or so to do all of the damage

[spiral onyx]

3000% damage is like Cinderella nuke

So 3000% on one target will kill

3000% split across 3 will not

And because you're running a SG team, you're probably not running buffing B1 and B2s

[oblique ridge]

Yolo dreams it is then for SGs

[final wedge]

man......this past week....i cant make Privaty team work.....i gotta give up on registering it on CA

3sec stun for nothin....not enuf DPS to bust at least rookie

guys????? re-enter burst still counts almost +0.5 RL right????????

[oblique ridge]

I guess so? Since 2.5RL vs 2RL where 2.5RL has Noah, can barely block 2RL Scarlet AoE burst

To the point that a slight slowness can cause Noah to barely be too slow

[rapid escarp]

does anyone have a siren opponent in their RA/SPA? I want to ask if they can test something out

[oblique ridge]

And whole team dies instead of invuln

[final wedge]

kk.....hmmm......now i have a difficult choice......shud i put re-enter or not....

if my Viper burst....i can use her 1sec invunerable.....i kinda need it

but at the cost of +0.5 RL.....sounds harsh

assuming i kill an important nikkek on my opponent side....i could have dat 1 sec invunerable advantage....if not....dat +0.5 RL from viper reenter is wasted

[sonic pivot]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[final wedge]

old comp...yes....latest meta.....the person no longer can keep up with it....its just too crazy

so....no

[sonic pivot]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[final wedge]

latest update is last year :kek:

[sonic pivot]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[final wedge]

if i were him....id too prolly stop....maybe lot sooner

dat is as far as we got atm.....so....if u can get and understand it.....u shud be decent enuf to craft current meta

problem with current meta PVP is dat CS% and cube play a huge factor now

[crystal flicker]

Should I brick my Cindy team to 3RL to slot Siren?

it's really hard to find a good place for her

[final wedge]

its funny how 2.5RL can become 2RL with lots of 17% CS + quantum

[final wedge]

waddya need Siren for?? it only stun 1 char right?

[crystal flicker]

ye

[final wedge]

i wouldnt trade Cindy for 1 Siren stun tho

despite Cindy burst is "kinda" unreliable.....1 char stun doesnt compare to it imo

[crystal flicker]

My comp basically 2RL x 2 Scar Cindy, 1 sacc Rosanna 3RL, 3RL ScarBS, and 3RL SAnis

[final wedge]

for me, i rather keep a char/burst dat can kill wipe rather than supporting one.....cuz....ive been crafting Privaty for the past 2 weeks and its shet as hell

[oblique ridge]

Does Drake not buff Bunny Soda's burst AoE?

[final wedge]

dem...dats a lot of 3 RL

[crystal flicker]

I don't have La+

[final wedge]

should be right???????????????????????????????? it said "ENTERING" burst.....so it shud buff before Soda burst

there was an explanation by skyjlv....about entering burst vs when bursting....basically entering burst is before burst

[crystal flicker]

I was slotting her in ScarBS comp, but I replace her with RH for more dmg
and now she has no place in my comp

[final wedge]

i still kinda regret having La+.....coped too hard for tru dmg comp

[crystal flicker]

actually I might able to put her in SAnis comp, replacing Nero

Since I didn't run stall team due to Rapunzeless

[final wedge]

dem....rapunzel is a very very good

[crystal flicker]

Yeh

[final wedge]

somehow dis team of mine has the highest win rate in my rookie....but soon ppl will figure it out

[fast cargo]

What are the best cubes after quantum?

[final wedge]

tempering

dat freakin cube is soooooo imba lol

[fast cargo]

That's the damage reduction one right?

[final wedge]

YUP

[tardy bone]

What is that site?

[final wedge]

as long as u can get it to lvl.3 buff its good

[final wedge]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

its there on PIN tho

[fast cargo]

Is it only good for tanks or can it make squishier units survive nukes?

[final wedge]

generally good for DPS as well

[dim sapphire]

whats keripo comp dont have to tell me the order xd

[fast cargo]

I'll invest in it. Ty bro

[dim sapphire]

i put siren with my sg team

[final wedge]

my guess is his 3RL is Blanc team despite he hates blanc indom team.....cuz blanc indom team is risky for having 2RL or higher than 3RL

and blanc indom still good whatever situation it is in general

[dim sapphire]

i have mine indom blanc on 3.5 cause i think most blanc will be at 3rl

[final wedge]

i mean....out of other 4 team comp...it has good winning rate

[final wedge]

problem is.....u cant possibly caught mirroring match in CA.....so ur gambling 3.5RL vs generally any 3RL

id say 3RL is the save point for indom blanc

good for 2.5 RL....since lots of 2.5 and 3RL

if meet 2 RL....well 100% lose ....unless it is a weird pepega team dat dont have aoe burst...

[dim sapphire]

im only going to go along what majority of ppl do last ca comp order. Likely i think it will probably be unpredictable now they get the gist of how ca works xd

[final wedge]

my problem with CA now is....i dun have the data on what team position will they put the main DPS 2RL

my problem now is only the team order

cant wait for CA to open.....id like to see Rosanna + P-23 if possible

[sleek root]

Thats the fun RNG CA all about

Build best comp but met it's counter due to random order

[tardy bone]

THANK YOUUUU

[tardy bone]

Quick Q once those investments have been made, how the teams will look so I can know how to build them properly?

[glad glade]

Is putting Siren in a 2 RL Scar-Jack comp a bit overkill?

Granted I have to sacrifice RH

[final wedge]

dats just a gamble

[unique wagon]

Kinda cope

But might work

I mean depends on what enemy is running too

You will lose if enemy runs Rosanna too anyway for example like SG Rosanna

[oblique ridge]

So, does Scarlet actually have to be in p1 for link to work properly? Can it be just as fine if something else was in p1 but linked?

[unique wagon]

Depends on burst chain.

[restive willow]

https://arca.live/b/nikketgv/134981830
looks like the "min firing rounds adjustment" is the culprit. If you turn it on, siren shoots 23 times/s. with it off, the usual default of 15 times/s

Same applies to all MG/SMG. The author of that didn't test AR, but perhaps?

I expect it to be pretty significant if you use other things dependent on hit count, specifically thinking about Rosanna

or uh, you get wrecked by scarlet 50% faster i guess

[vapid burrow]

is there a position siren should be in ideally?

[final wedge]

guys.....i do wonder....what order of Rosanna debuff gonna debuff if a char has more than 5 buffs?????

for example.....Jackal link buff is one buff within 6 buffs dat Scarlet have.....does dat mean Rosanna debuff will debuff it based on chances???

5/6 chances it will get debuffed ?

[worthy knoll]

Based on the order of buff applied iirc

There should be a tooltip on her S1 iirc

[glacial lion]

anyone gonna use this ?

[torn obsidian]

what's the point

[final wedge]

ill be xpecting u on the final if we are on the same bracket....dont lose

tbh i wanna meet @knotty beacon as well in CA.....

last CA is so lonely...no fun

[glacial lion]

nah, maybe after im done with mihara

[final wedge]

wat i wan is too see @sacred verge as well in CA tho....

go win top 4 SPA

[tropic summit]

@eager mountain

[glacial lion]

i cant cook, 3 team 3rl, 1 team totally depend on sacc, only 1 team 2rl

[tropic summit]

this applies only to rookie correct?

else i'd be getting different results in SParena i guess

this was from SP arena for example

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

helm with trina and jackal is a bit overkill, unless that's a rookie team

[restive willow]

it should only apply to your own siren in your team

[tropic summit]

so enemy siren is not affected by my client side config?

[final wedge]

wdym only 1 team RL......4 SG team able to get 2RL

[tropic summit]

what a mess

[restive willow]

[tropic summit]

just fire that intern already

[glacial lion]

[stray robin]

hello, can someone help me sort out teams for rookie and special arena? i have every unit and am willing to invest mats

[final wedge]

omggggg stoppp using privaty....ur privaty is 10/4/10 ????????

[tropic summit]

can refer to this

#pvp-arena message

[glacial lion]

no, but i dont think i have better aoe nuke for leftover

[astral kayak]

how did you know?

[final wedge]

ive tried privaty in the past 2 week and none can kill any1 in rookie

my parameter for passing....at least can kill 3 or 4

[astral kayak]

as in I thought you know tech priv is 10/4/10

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[stray robin]

thank u :D

[final wedge]

we got no good AOE xcept for Mari.....and combining Mari + Privaty for AOE is just takin too much toll on the RL support......so in the end i ditch priv team comp

my test always end up in enemy got stunned but cant kill shets

[astral kayak]

this comp only works in the old days

no longer functioning well now

[knotty beacon]

You want to get destroyed 5-0?

[final wedge]

yes plis

[astral kayak]

I will cheer for you even you lose

[final wedge]

ill aim to win all da way now

(just dont remind me about the rewards)

[astral kayak]

time to topple hobo?

[final wedge]

no....side by side with hobo

[knotty beacon]

We can't meet probably, the league is based on account creation date
Me Hobo and @astral kayak is in first league
You tech Ltan pierot in 2nd league
Yenah is in 3rd league

Unless they shuffle it but i doubt

[final wedge]

dem...so many in hobo bracket

[tropic summit]

hmm synch lvl 521... doubt any defense should work anymore at that level of experience, let's go with this one

scarlet jackal trina siren emilia
noise rumani cind helm noah
alice sbs drake rh bsoda

cubes

quantum on jackal, trina, emilia
vigor on noise
temperance on noah
rest can run high lvl cube

[astral kayak]

bro the first league, that moonix setup the comp all against mine lol, freaking mismatch

[final wedge]

wait....Ltan was in my bracket?????

i thought Ltan quit already

[stray robin]

thank u

[knotty beacon]

Unlucky, matchup very rng kek

[astral kayak]

the moment I saw his comp, I know its joever

[knotty beacon]

Yes, he never quit just banned in many server

[final wedge]

:kekboom:

[astral kayak]

if I shift my 3rd comp up and push every comp down by 1, I could win

its rng well

[astral kayak]

guy build differently

he should learn more from kamui

[crystal flicker]

It'll probably look like

Noise Noah Rumani Cindy HelmT (2 RL)
Scarlet Blanc RH Centi Jackal (2.5RL)
Moran Biscuit SAnis Rapunzel/LapT Anis (3RL)

The rest can be used for mix-max or CA if you're qualified
If you get Trina, you can replace Blanc in Scarlet comp and redirect her to replace Moran in SAnis comp

[sacred verge]

[crystal flicker]

I'm out of Nikke tbh

But it'll be great if P23 can survive 2RL and die short after, thus proc the burst B4 3RL

[swift mango]

It's based on server.

Hobo is global. You are SEa? But Valco also SEA and highest level league, why won't you meet?

Valco top 4 last season.

[covert lintel]

wdym
hobo is in my CA group

[swift mango]

So Hobo is also sea? ?

Maybe I need to check the group again.

[covert lintel]

he's the winner in my group

[swift mango]

I remember Arland won sea though, Hobo is Arland?

[covert lintel]

that was him

[astral kayak]

@raven plover

[swift mango]

So this was highest levels league in SEA, not the other one lol. Arland was higher synch level so I assume otherwise.

My bad.

Guess Hobo bricked his synch a little.

[astral kayak]

he full invested in pvp and brick other modes

[swift mango]

Is he as full as @umbral crown ? Using Moran for Campaign burst 1.

Or I guess just similar to me.

[astral kayak]

he will reply you shortly after, take some time before he see the ping

[covert lintel]

i'm using rosanna for campaign and tower

[swift mango]

Thanks though... I guess I didn't see anyone post pic of that league so I didn't realized.

[swift mango]

But you still use proper burst 1 CDR last I checked.

[quick lake]

I wonder who were the 4 sea winners, hobo, besti...

[swift mango]

Hobo, Besti, Arland and Megumin

[astral kayak]

3 from pepega union?

[swift mango]

Only 1

So wishful thinking. XD

[covert lintel]

yes, that was for tower
i'll become penniless if i stop climbing tower

[quick lake]

damn, megumin lurks here right?

feels like I see him/her before

[swift mango]

I also use Rossana for tower.

71010 too much CP for a 381+ peep

And not like Tetra has any good MG

[swift mango]

You should have seen Megumin many times before.

[quick lake]

[swift mango]

In a nutshell my username is pretty bad and shouldn't win CA. Maybe time to change it. Any ideas?

[quick lake]

Change to Blood

[swift mango]

I use that username in 3 other games already.... But only HI3 I'm still playing... Maybe could change to it...

Is Lalatina a good username?

[quick lake]

Why not continue using that username

[astral kayak]

Doolb

[swift mango]

Idk, my current username also used in 3 games but not enough character limit to type out fully in this game.

I'm throwing this CA to test run Emi+Miranda anyway.

Maybe not important

[oblique ridge]

I cooked my own CA pvp stuff for the first time

Not confident enough to start dumping skills, OLs, or dolls into the characters.

So they're going in poorly invested for the most part.

GG

[swift mango]

My product 23 is ungeared

[final wedge]

ur on SEA right???? feels like i can meet lots of ppl this CA

hope its gonna be fun

[final wedge]

who would gear product-23

[swift mango]

I feel like half of active peeps on this chat are sea...

[final wedge]

so far the only NA i know here is Keripo

not sure about the rest....cant tell if most r SEA or what

[quick lake]

Most are actually NA and SEA i think

not a lot of global peeps

[swift mango]

Most are global or SEA. I rarely see NA and JP.

[final wedge]

JP has it own discord right?

it will be weird to see tryhards like JP doesnt have its own discord

[swift mango]

There should be 2 guys at least JP active on this chat

[oblique ridge]

NA

[valid fern]

thinking of skill resetting Naga

[swift mango]

Oh... You should show your bracket betting here so we know more about NA

[swift mango]

Should I level 10 moran burst skill? Or save.

[cloud oak]

im not the best at team comps for pvp, if i post my list can i get some help with 3 teams for sp and one main team for rookie please 🙂

[swift mango]

Okay. My bad... Maybe Rail also NA, not global

Yeah, Rosy and Echo as well.

He isn't NA, he can't show NA bracket.

He cook for some but most high level player in CA don't ask for cook.

Utrawhat was his winning cook and he also lower level bracket.

[valid fern]

does ammo line brick Moran?

wondering how much her s2 taunt actually matters

[swift mango]

No in one burst time.

Her s2 taunt only matter when you not burst with her.

[valid fern]

makes sense

[swift mango]

New players.

I don't care about your Emi. I enjoy my own Emi lap pillow.

To be frank I'm in new players bracket in SEA too. Which extends to synch 421 F2P I think.

Imagine lv200 whale fighting 421 F2P.

[kind palm]

[glacial lion]

this will work somehow or massive cope?

[swift mango]

Unlinked Scarlet.... Can't believe this guy bricked himself after a few months not hitting him in rookie.

[glacial lion]

ig it will work

[onyx crescent]

how much would be decent stopping point for drake treasure skills pvp?

for budget good enough build

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-gif-27609644

[raven plover]

yes I didnt buy event attempt until shelm banner I think

[swift mango]

Guess you are lucky to still be top 4.

In SpA.

[raven plover]

on my "hard" bracket Im like 4 levels behind, maybe they didnt buy event attempts as well I still have some boxes atm, but yea Im behind those who bought event attempts since day 1

[swift mango]

It's really funny how there could be no whale in one bracket and 4 whale in another.

On the same server.

I mean LD bracket.

Maybe 1st month player bricked more than 2nd month player.

[raven plover]

[swift mango]

First of all, you Mast here is level 1, not 400.

[glacial lion]

oh right...

[swift mango]

In CA, you Ein would die before Mast die 2nd time.

[shell hazel]

my CA comps look ok? I changed a bit from last time when I compromised to run 4 x 3RL teams

this time I've gone for a quicker team and less 3RL's but last 2 teams are cope

without rumani I can't really do another quicker than 3RL team like I wanted to

in this case Doro = Siren, she isn't on the deck builder 😄

I am throwing those matches away essentially

trying to just go for 3 wins, and they aren't super weak in general so they'd beat less invested/more trash cope teams than mine

I don't have all the units I'd need for them

I can't do a SG team really my SG units aren't invested beyond Naga / Noir

and those not that much even

[copper creek]

Not really IMO

Im not sure what u are trying to achieve with the bottom 2 twams

[raven plover]

why not siren t3

[shell hazel]

Siren is on T3

Siren is not on the site so it's Doro where Siren is

[copper creek]

siren not on deckbuilder, i assume thats what the doro stands for

[raven plover]

oh

[copper creek]

inb4 he was going for the old doro "glitch the whole server" strat

anyway I would think about making t4 3rl

[shell hazel]

I can only make that 3RL by dropping the 2RL to 3RL I think

[copper creek]

grave and manchor in place of naga, crown might help to that end

idk i dont have burst gen calc + im so drunk

[shell hazel]

I can definitely do 4 teams of 3RL btw that isn't impossible

[swift mango]

I thought all my corr Arena units were sr5 at least but just noticed Noise being Sr0. So bricked...

Will fix her later then.

[shell hazel]

this was what I used last time but blanc can't really survive in T3

she dies no indom

[copper creek]

Your original proposed teams - grave and manchor to t4 in place of crown naga, let manchor burst

[shell hazel]

my SG units, Drake is SR-5 but no OL

[copper creek]

So be it

No cp penalty in CA, its fine

Ok back to drinks, cheers friends

[shell hazel]

cheers

[copper creek]

im referring to his original pic that he sent earlier, which he says are his intended teams for this season

[swift mango]

nothing to see here.

[shell hazel]

I can change them but I really don't think my SG team will be up to much 😄

[copper creek]

its fine, no cp penalty in this mode

[shell hazel]

sure but CP shows investment to some degree. 321K where my normal teams are 500-600K 😛

I can yolo a SG team for a laugh and then 4 OK teams to go with it

[swift mango]

Pretty cooked. Zero investment on everyone?

[shell hazel]

yes in that team no one has any investment

no skills, no ol, probably not even wearing gear 😄

[swift mango]

Rossana need s2 lv7 at least to even sacc.

[shell hazel]

no dolls either

[swift mango]

If Rossanna no investment, then no team

Use 5 SG instead.

[shell hazel]

pepper might die, though I suppose it hardly matters at that point

where did naga enter the team at? 😄

[swift mango]

@shell hazel don't do this. Your current positioning is better.

[shell hazel]

I do yes, Naga and Noir are my main invested SG units

[swift mango]

P2 Rossanna will lose her burst extra dmg.

RL always splash

Rossana p5 is fine, SG won't hit her.

[shell hazel]

?

hey even if it fails it'll be entertainmennnttuuu to watch

[swift mango]

I figure you are better cook than Neko so take note of that.

[shell hazel]

haha dunno blood I barely actually get to fight matches in my SPA 😄

[swift mango]

He doesn't get to fight anything as well.

[shell hazel]

drake is less invested than Noir, would I be better throwing Noir in here? it loses a potential Naga/Noir on another team ofc

[swift mango]

Noir is better to buff your normal attack dmg sure.

Drake is better burst.

SG team is all about normal attack

[shell hazel]

is a totally uninvested b soda the best one to b3 here?

[swift mango]

It's better not to fight. I'm lazy now.

[swift mango]

It doesn't really matter tbh, drake burst is fine too. Your team is all bout normal dmg anyway

[shell hazel]

OK let's see what else to do but nothing will be 2RL I think

hol' up let's see what is left

[quick lake]

Just do 4x SG

Even uninvested SG, no OL is fine

[shell hazel]

how about this? my SR anis super sus

just gets the last team into 4RL but I don't think I have enough batteries to get last one quicker

pepper has to come off SG team then 😛

I can't use my old teams without her on them

yes

I don't think I can get team 4 to 4RL without moving someone else out of a diff team

if I swap say helm and maid anchor then I wind up with 4 x 3RL

sure thing

[radiant storm]

@tropic summit

Is Noise, Centi, Cindy, Helm, Maiden Winter fast 2.5 RL? Or 2 RL?

[strange rain]

i just got crown is she replacing anyone here ?
and what you guys suggest about the team positioning should i put the weak team last ?

[swift mango]

I wonder if I should equip my Product 23 with blue doll.

[rich quail]

Sacrifice?

[swift mango]

[rich quail]

If sacrifice, blue doll is fine

I haven’t done purple yet

[strange quail]

Hello guys, will a 2RL Scarlet+Trina or 2RL cindy team beat this ?

[swift mango]

2rl scar Trina yes. But need enough investment without a proper burst 1.

2rl Cindy, probably, but a tiny chance to lose.

Defending on how you build that 2rl cindy

[quick lake]

for what

[strange quail]

10/10/10 max gear or we considering OL lines too ?

[quick lake]

yes

[shell hazel]

Cindy is like 10/7/10

[swift mango]

For more normal attack dmg.

[shell hazel]

no need to take cindy beyond that I think, mine is 10/7/10 anyway

[swift mango]

I mean the team, not cindy

[quick lake]

negligible boost

[swift mango]

[strange quail]

I will go with this then

[shell hazel]

poor cindy not SR-15 😦

[quick lake]

Is product23 shotgun

maybe doll is fine

[swift mango]

Guess I just permanently bricked my Product 23 then.

Is okay, my Pine will be more happy with the doll then.

[swift mango]

Why burst with Centi instead of Trina thou

[strange quail]

Ah okay, In other teams my Centi will do the tanking for Noise with a risk of dying

Wow, 2RL Cindy lost against that ?
Why their Cindy take no damage from my burst ?

What the hell lol

[covert lintel]

blanc get revived

idk why you separate scar from trina

[calm gull]

put trina on scarlet's

and put noah biscuit on Cindy's

[strange quail]

I thought Cindy team will have a better chance winning against that team, but I was wrong

[strange quail]

Sad part is I don't have Noah 😭

2 years of playing, almost full Pilgrim except her

[calm gull]

put centi then

[strange quail]

So full team gonna Centi Noise Cindy Biscuit HelmTr+ right ?

Against that team 1 ?

[calm gull]

scarlet on T1

[strange quail]

Okay I'll try again tmr

[shell hazel]

oh you joined the mischievous academy? 😮

[calm gull]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/harry-potter-marauders-map-mischief-managed-gif-16088629

[shell hazel]

I am sort of 🙂

[primal charm]

How do you know what doll a nikke carrying

[shell hazel]

I posted the teams above, notably I am not using invested Rapi / Alice / Liter (somewhat)

[shell hazel]

the icons

blue icon not filled in = R doll not at max. purple icon not filled in = SR doll not at max

orange same key but for fav item

it would be too late by then, 2 hours left to set teams

I'm not going to leave being sort of free until after work which is after that D;

[uneven girder]

Will these 5 teams be ok?

[tropic summit]

you can find out on your own:

https://www.blablalink.com/?plate_type=nikkeart

just put the nikke in there

with 2 quantum you can hit 2RL

[shell hazel]

i'll get it 🙂

#pvp-arena message

my last version there

[tropic summit]

T1: if SBS dies and you get laplace indommed team becomes average, if SBS indommed team is decent
T2: consider rosanna instead, good SG pressure but no snowball like this
T3 ok
T4 ok
T5 what is s.anis doing there? either burst with helmt and add sustain/utility or burst with s.anis and let helm act as buffer, offburst s.anis is meh at best

[cedar gate]

Whats the meta sp teams rn? I pretty much have all nikkes besides the collab ones

[uneven girder]

ok noted

[upper grove]

can I ask for CA team help? I'm okay with building for SP but CA is a bit different

used a pad team last time but for obvious reasons I won't again

[tropic summit]

box and we can take a look

[tropic summit]

can refer to these

#pvp-arena message

[upper grove]

my CA bracket has sanis but I started afterwards so no sanis for me. no emilia in bracket

quantum not lvl 7 yet

[calm gull]

@tropic summit

[swift mango]

Little.

Guess you don't have anyone to fight in spa so 111 is fine

[cloud shell]

Best 3 team set up for sp area right now defense?

[swift mango]

He used 3 lv1 teams and no one attacked him.

Best defense is no one attack

[cloud shell]

No I'm asking what's the best 3 team defense lol number 4 trying to atk me for some reason

Wanted to set a new defense

I have literally every nikke

[quick lake]

444

[cloud shell]

Yes but what 3 are the best

[quick lake]

Scar Jack 2rl
Noah Cindy 2rl
yolo

4 pics max

[tropic summit]

place quantum as for SS, go with these

[quick lake]

Can find here
#pvp-arena message

[cloud shell]

Ty

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[upper grove]

thank you kindly for your cooking, just curious: why would I not use Jackal

I even have her at 13th power wise so idk if I'm missing something

[ionic seal]

What can I build with this for rookie arena?

[upper grove]

besides Jackal, Thelm is also not used. and is Siren stun a valid consideration? She's fully built as well

[dapper blade]

which cube for little mermaid pvp?

[quick lake]

he probably missed her

[dapper blade]

thanks!

[quick lake]

doesnt matter. Tempering or highest cube

[upper grove]

I felt incredibly stupid that I almost thought I missed something crucial a hidden new cook w/o thelm or jackal

[quick lake]

For main DPS: Scar Cindy SAnis THelm
Utility: Noise Blanc Moran
Off-burst: laplace xMaiden

all other pvp can be left at 111 in theory

[upper grove]

batteries don't need any skill investments, 4/4/4 if you want to pad a bit, otherwise wasted

[quick lake]

Yeah, all batteries can be 111 or 444

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

oh so that's why T5 ended up 4RL

[upper grove]

it happens

[tropic summit]

change it to this, seems a copy paste went wrong

[upper grove]

what about thelm and siren?

[umbral belfry]

got bastion 7 just before CA

[upper grove]

sweet 3 ammo refill