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as in, whether jackal s2 is affected by quantum cube right?
The 10 hit proc
i thought it wasnt affected by cube 
Can probably test it by getting shot in shooting range
I know that Helm s1 wasnt affected by quantum 
Helm S1 is definately not affected
Correct if they count as an extra hit. In the case of Jackal's skill 1, it's affected. I've tested it in the shooting range. It takes 14 procs to reach full burst with Quantum cube and 15 without.
i would have needed 5 more mg bullets if it didnt
That's some nice dedication. 
It's replicable findings that are layman's terms. I've been using Jackal with Quantum cube since the beginning bcuz of it.
Jackal goes well with Quantum regardless. But you have video?

I never record unless I'm being asked by people to do it and if I think that there's value in demonstration. I can do it later when I open up nikke again to check SP arena anyways.
chat in stall matchup between biscuit noah comp and blanc, who will win
Depends on who blanc indom
And indom Emilia is a very different scenario than an indom RH
Depend on the rest of the comp tbh
Scarlet does low damage so not really.
If you want to stall, just go HelmT instead
Scarlet needs a buffer to wipe
For rookie might ok ish, but for SP it's a waste of Noah Jackal
Crit anything is only at low hp. Rumani only affects attacks and it's low % anyways

Really depends on investment then.
Cp gap since it's relative. Equal footing it won't kill anything besides maybe water code nikke with some elemental damage lines.
Needs a buffer
It won't kill but the other side won't kill either. 
So depending on investment if the other side would win. 
It's a meme team then bcuz scarlet is sub par beyond a few unbuffed counter attacks and unbuffed single target dps
It's not good for attack but it's decent for rookie def. Especially if you have higher level.

Can anyone confirm if Tdrake bricks ASS burst?
People with lower synch level and investment got bullied by this comp coming here to ask all the time.
It'll 1 shot someone if they're not linked without a buffer and maybe kill with a buff.

Yes.
Seems like a baby whale meta thing then. That comp would get destroyed by everyone in my server bracket. 
Late, but thanks.
Destroyed by what? By being 20% deficit and lose?

how about this
The scarlet team was actually better. 
pain:
Too many key units in 1 team tbh
Why you run Noah and Jackal together
Rookie. 

2rl? 
RH dps doesnt do too hot in arena anymore

Rumani will do the same trick if you only needs 2RL
aoe or multi target are necessary to avoid being bricked by indom and invincibility
yall do pvp team building cuz i have no idea about this
That or super stall team
No, a noise or Moran alone, not even noah is necessary to shrug off an unbuffed scarlet burst. Scarlet dies to delayed aoe or dps aoe or a blanc Scarlet setup. The noah and jackal both proc invuln for 5s then die. This ain't a hard comp to beat at all
pls cook a decent 2rl team for scar without using trina helm for me pls
Why wouldnt you use trina if you have her?
Trinas kit is pretty much dedicated to scar
It's about the tanking and counter. That scar team at 20% deficit to enemies would be a very good bully team especially if the Scarlet is high core and fully built. 
Scar team for atk or defense?
Minor cp gapping only works against baddies
There's just no point using scarlet here
Yeah, you could try to win it. If a 60+ lv gap whale ever come to CP gap you. It's no impossible to win, just not with a Blanc+Jackal team. 
that the need part i dont (have)
def
When I get on tomorrow, I'll pull up the cp gapping I deal with in sp arena. My points above stand for countering that derpy team
The clip you showed of your scar comp had trina, you have me confused. You could do scar noir ros centi jackal. Honestly though scar will be countered by noah/bay unless you use a sac team
Just use the common
Scar+Blanc+RH+Centi+Jackal.
ah i use another acc then
I swear no one know that team exist anymore huh? 
Do you have treasure helm
I remember scar dying before burst went off with that team a ways back ago
Until trina came out
If you are worring about that, go with Rapu instead of RH or Centi. 
Id say just dont use scar unless youve got trina
Lol
Someone slander our Arena queen. 
D:
Probably never win CA in his life now. 
Scarlet can work without trina but treasure helm is what you'll want to speed up her burst gen even more and some extra atk dmg for cleanup.
Scarlet helm blanc rh jackal.
Assuming that helm atk > than rh
If not, Scarlet blanc rh helm jackal
LapT+Noir+3 SG. 
Enemy ros mebbe?
yeah but you wouldn't be attacking into those if you see them no?
He was talking about defense tho
you don't have control over that
Nope
so there's no point of worrying about it
You may lose the mirror match with Scar+LapT+RH on another team. 
It's counter attack rng
i understand it now
Your scarlet died right after enemy RH burst. 
Trina scarlet jackal
Noise Cinderella
Sbs or ein blanc
That's a start up framework
Man i spent so many rocks for cs% just to make my CA teams work for next season, all of it just to lose in groups
Because you slander her. 
when the next CA season?
Few days
In like 2 days
Shes still the best, just better with trina
Ammo lines mess up how much she'll taunt
top 4 locks in 14 hours, but you have almost 2 extra days before teams lock in
Not enough time for Nero 

In before Siren gonna be burst generating buff with massive attack buff and damage taking debuff. Everyone gonna scramble to get her ready for CA season 2
Pre burst.


It's hard to use Rosa since sacc strat isn't working
Why isnt it working?
She has 60 base ammo. He taunt skill 2 won't trigger unless you play 2 burst stall team or off burst Moran. 
syncd makes your Nikke to sustain
You mean in CA?
yes
It's in CA. 
Same thing. 
Rosa still good, i see people talking about using her in SG teams next CA
I guess to sacc one of the SG units and get off burst?
I tried to sacc BSoda and she still lives to tell the tale last CA lmao
maybe just use 0 gear 0 doll R unit
Synced units are unreliable for sacc, i think the point in SG teams is to make sure burst can go off if a unit goes down
I might better run Rosa in 2RL comp
Miracle Anne in sg teams can rez 1 and buff/heal the rest. Rosanna might be able to do something with all that, but it'd be a bit slower on the burst if both are run.
you don't sac your unit, you sac their unit
It is BSoda Pepper
xanne overrated imo, by the time xanne provides any value, the match is already decided most of the time, you need dmg pre-burst, not post-burst
Misspoke
Can replace Drake to 21% Emi and 2 clip RL to reach 2.5RL
Any idea why my Emi has like 30% dmg difference between 2 scenario? Is the Noah+Noise stacking helped DR that much? SBS and ASS both with SR15 btw. No stat deficit but SBS is 58 lv synch higher while ASS team is 20 synch lower 
I guess it's the combination from Noah+Noise DR reduction and Crown 20% buff. 
Noah burst
Ah that DEF too.
It's exactly that
Noise Dr needing 20 hits, first vid isn't getting that
Team 2 also has Noise DR stacking. Btw. 
Noise taunt Crown. 
Oh right
Did noah target skip to your Miranda?
Mostly HelmT and Emi but it's all pointless if enemy also does the same
Lemme check, could be another. 
If she did, noah hits Emilia then loses some atk
Actually, no, My Noah still have bullet when Emi shot and no reload so no target skip 
Checked video, the same.
Worth asking since it does make a small difference
How long was Biscuit S2 proc on Crown and Emi ICBM hit on right team?
Was it more than 7 sec?
No biscuit on crown I think. 
For right team.
Ahh so no Crown S2 on that right team then
Yeah, I wrote on that comment, maybe no clear enough

I thought the SAnis would bring that Crown to 50% with her 5 normal attacks, but I guess she couldn't 
Maybe no atk lines or cp gapped
Btw, do you think the left dmg is enough for sub 421 bracket CA? 
Would Cindy trigger Biscuit from one of the 2 dmg of Emi burst or Both dmg needed to counted before Biscuit trigger?
No CP gapped. I said from the begin 
Level gap sure, 20 above him. The other team was 58 above mine.
Cindy doesn't get saved by biscuit. It's counts as a single instance of damage iirc.
Even if it counts twice for bullet feed
Emilia also forces cindy to pos 4 if you don't want to give free burst gen to Emilia
Mmh.. Damage wise Crit ICBM should be more than enough.. well as long you are able to release and hit that first. Though prolly a Moran MAnchor team can survive it with red health if they are SR15 dolled, will prolly die on the normal attacks if Emi still alive to do natks tho.
I think this should be enough to deal with any Cindy team. 
Right?
With Miranda or rh on top, sure
Though is that 2 RL?
Neither are
Thanks. 
Sometime RH isn't enough 
Well only way for it to lose is, it got Noah blocked, Emilia got Rosanna'ed before Blanc burst or a magic death whiff happened 
Magic death whisk that was very evil. 
Faster Scarlet trina eats blanc Emilia or a well invested elemental dmg ros.
Well, the problem with Emi normal attack is alway Biscuit. 
Oh right, a somehow slower Blanc can also win against that
Or just any scar+Blanc, so long as scar don't Reload at the end.

Worst situation is Emilia whiffs on a dying p1 or i framed p1 notwithstanding the counter comps.
Well even if it was a shit 5 RL Blanc team, as long it could B1 B2 B3, it could still win it. Since you don't have any killing units aside from Emi 
I doubt any 5rl Blanc could come to CA. 
They wasted Blanc just to catch an imaginary Emi.

Imagine it was just a leftover team and the bitterness of encountering and losing to it 
Iframe doesn't exist in Arena. 
Never heard of it.
You don't know about rocket whiffs?
We don't have rocket whiff, only die whiff and reload whiff now.
Dying whiffs still exist.. no more reload whiffs though at least
So far haven't seen a 20 ammo Scar whiff yet
Oh that's even better.
Fr? Thoug
I haven't seen a whiff in awhile since it was somewhat rare anyways but that'd be something new that changed under my radar
Outside of the dying whiff
Which i still see
I already know dying whiff exist coz a 2 RL team wasn't 2 RL when the P1 died.. just that we can't see it coz of whoever made that damn camera close ups
I've had my Emilia whiff her burst on a p1 that died but it's usually someone with lower cp than me.
Rookie arena only though. There's no one in sp arena with lower cp I can attack. Only whales and leviathan there.
guys....aside from Scar/Quick AOE burst 2RL and attacking SG team, what other team ill lose? Rosanna 2RL?
I remember I posted a screenshot of p1 dying whiff from Yenah before. Also, there was a whole Emi huge nuke whiffed around here before. 
Dying whiff exists.
This

oh yea i forgot dat exist lmao
damn Emi blanc combo
damn it....back to the drawing board again then....tyty
Every team can be countered anyway, just yolo and pray. 
im looking for at least 2 type team dat can heavily counter mine
more than 2....its kinda hard....
at least i guess its fine if it is for T4 or T5....but not T1 or T2 for me
i need to craft my next season thinkin ppl gonna be very crafty as well
You have a lot of bullet feed so counters are very present
Burst gen isn't crazy fast either
I have not update my sp arena team for a long time please help me update it. is the position of my nikkes good already? I have all nikkes except crust.
only 3rd team decent
i didn't help shit
How can i improve my first and second team?
Get trina and rumani.
I have them both who should i replace?
Try
Scarlet Trina/XAnne Centi Noir Jackal
Blanc Emilia/SAnis Biscuit RedHood Rumani
Noah Anis Cindy HelmT Noise
It's pretty generic team
Gonna try it, what trina and rumani skill level?
Trina requires 10 in her atk dmg steroids
Scarlet prefer Trina, but incase your Trina is 0 investment, just use XAnne till she built
Rumani needs nothing
4/4/4 cp pad
I see, tysm guys
Even 444 Trina > Xanne
For scarlet

If you have Laplace treasured or xmaiden, I'd suggest either to replace noir for what he said
Noir is flex yes, depend on his investment too
Minimize bullet feed when you can
I want XAnne for my ReiT or SG team. 
Spa is great in that you can skip shotguns entirely. Ca different story
Do trina and rumani need ol gears?
charge speed ideally.
Trina specifically wants extra HP. More the merrier. it improves the HP related skills
So you'd prioritize her chest piece
Noted sir
Wow SBS being given immunity by Blanc and they still lost that round.
Probably because Alice is the one who bursted. 
Wdym, SBS lived until the end
Jackal and alice died really ealry on, so it was just the fight stalling on a immune SBS with Blanc and Alice aive.
Without Bursting SBS dmg really weak.
Turns out red hoods regen won in this fight.
Unless jackal died and they just didn't burst, but SBS was immune for 10 seconds
it seems
Since the fight was still going on with SBS immune after red hoods burst was over.
Maybe their SBS is just terribe with 1/1/1 investment and no overloaded gear, and no doll.
It's about HP manipulation. Both Alice and SBS linked but SBS p5 with less HP so she ate the Blanc indom and Alice P1 burst. You could post the video to check. 
Question: Does anyone think Purple Rei could survive p1 until burst? Does Rei's Decoy also make target skip to p2?
I could try but no more rookie hit.

Yes
Say bye bye to scar

no, that was for boss fight
just like D
active when target appear
D and Elegg word as "when the target appears"... This was worded as "when the enemy appeared", hence...
we stunning peeps with bubbles 🗣️
Now 2 SMG 3 MG can burst in 6-7RL instead of 13RL



So does she stun in Arena or no?
She would be just sly in time to stop exactly 2rl Scarlet if she does. 
this skill kit feel like just an upgrade of rouge
Probably can stop 2.8-3rl Noah too. 
a bit more offensive than defensive
s2 is pretty busted tho, looks good for campaign 
If she does stun p1 she would be meta in Arena.
Even if she doesn't, I could see her being used to buff Emi by no arena peeps.
Not enough to beat Rapipi B1 AoE. But better than Rapipi for bossing B1.
the skill kit would be active on all opponent nikke if it does work on arena
ok we use both 
But only stun the unit she atk
Enemy appear I think it includes Nikke


Hey Target appears on D Killer wife
let's be hopeful
IN PVE Tho is it possible to make 40 sec burst on B3 22SECONDS only? D killer wife 7 SEC +Siren after full burst ends 7SEC + DOLLA Passive during full burst 7+7=14 +3 =17sec COOLDOWN REDUCTION Nani?!!!
that's even more crazy
every time she change target and reached 50ammo she stun
But can only stun once or twice vs 2RL comps tho unless U use NOAH and she doesn't make 2RL 1.5RL vs Jackal
MAN IF ONLY SHE IS RL
1 HIT PER ROCKET = STUN
So countered by Noah+Noise target switch. She won't be stunning either of them in 3rl team before them burst 
If she does stun it's only once.
She need 3.5RL to hit 50 bullet. 2rl Scarlet burst here.
YA Thats why we generally avoid MG AND SMG
after landing 50 normal atk, so it doesn't matter if it change target as long as she landing 50 normal atk
and the target would be the one after 50th shot
You are right. But it probably only works on boss though.

Still, it would be pointless to stun Noise after she already burst 
She might even welcome it. As she could activate her max HP to self heal after stunned. 
Same case to Soda stunning her.
You could already do that with Rouge. (Not Rapipi mb)
But rouge is ALWAYS IN Cindy TEAM
SHE IS FLEXIBLE AS B1 Siren
We could already do that with Liter+DKW a year ago. 
Siren wont stun in pvp i think 
Chat what are we saying
More reward. Revamp Arena shop.
Extend qualification to C8.
Clarification on "more reward": At least make each qualified member gives Arena Voucher, not just the highest rank. Any extra reward would also be appreciated.

Yeah
Have a way for the players in champion arena to actively participate during bracket fights. No difference between spectator and participant currently
Extend qualifications to all of challenger (C1-C10) and implement Swiss style system to allow for more players to participate without bloating tournament length.
Update arena ticket shop and more overall rewards.
Free Cheers
Improve loading times and allow for easier viewing of teams.
What I did
didnt they say it wont cost credit anymore to cheer for s2 
and every boss immune to stun
yes, they will change that in s2
so only better reward and increased qualification that need to be changed
Only stunning once probably only useful for target boss like the farter rather than big boss. Idk, immune to stun sound like Arknight to me, not this game
lord class rapture can't be stunned, you can try it with priv
Mori mid 
Just use makima
Free unit alway been
don't have
sad life
Reroll tbh
question is when
Travel back to nikke launch
XD
Best time to start
Wonder if they'll even get the collabs we did
they will ask you for your online id and why you online for so long

really?
She's only clue for Mori ||Calliope collab||
i go sneaky sneaky sneaky GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD
the guy at top 4 wasted 5k2 last season.
well, i understand that everyone wants to try CA
I played Dragon nest China and they have this timer and warning not to play too much hours
Yeah, kinda sad for those who cant
and constant reminder you already passed 1 hour mark
lookit dat beautiful glorious whel


How long it took for 50 ammo tho
20-30 ammo 2 RL
top 8 would be better
no he's a mentally inefficient patient that's about it
yeah
but double the cp
more players mean harder CA? means i have less chance to win?
So around 3rl then, 2RL Scar P1 still good
I don’t think they need to change the top 4 requirements
I think the need to reshuffle the sp.a groups a lot better
choose 3 SO WE CAN BET ROCKS AND CORE DUST
GO WIN OR GO HOME GAMBLING
Then IT BECOMES CASINO ARENA
since your teams AND items are fixed, your chances of encountering paper, when you are stone, are higher
well it is 1vs3 rn. it is likely 1vs7 if they expands to top 8 SpA
But if they expand 7 days would become 14 days
no sir. they can just send the data to your phone and let it run in background to get fighting result.
1vs7 on promotion phase
hmmm maybe if they do care enought to change it
also reward still lackluster no difference to be top 1 or just bet on some1 else
it is fun tho seeing simulation of different comps
just HEADACHE cause some are super weird comps
Better rewards would give those already on a top an even bigger advantage. I hope they keep rewards as is right now. This is a flex thing for whales and pvpers, keep it as is.
can she catch 2RL non-biscuit noah 🤔
oh 30fps
anyone have a good team building for pvp?
you can get inspiration here:
else we need your box with nikke ordered by strength
hmm t1 and t2 are decent, t3 is a bit off
SBS needs time to get going, you'll want her indommed or behind noah
sr Anis is a hufe cp loss. Generally dont recommend 
i'd rather go for this
should give you better CP overall, you can still maximize emi as a battery on T1 with cindy
also if noise is not well invested, go for rouge in p4 instead and move emi to p5
that's what i'd go for with that box
no problemo 
@spare brook ensure noir has less atk% than scarlet does btw, OL included, as they seem pretty closely invested
worse comes to worse use any other sg clip like bsoda or drake
or xmaiden
Hello, does anybody have a SP team recommendation for my roster? Thanks in advance. 
can anyone help me counter this guy please?
scarlet helmt trina liter jackal
naga centi cind laplaceT noise
noah biscuit emi SBS RH
quantum on jackal
vigor on noise, biscuit
temperance on noah
anyone else run highest lvl cube available
consider raising CP on the second screenshot
your teams are on the left, both teams can handle 15-18%CP deficit, try to avoid it though
14.17 cs unfortunately.
Thank you for the detailed response. I'll work on raising the highlighted nikkes
Quick question is this worth rerolling for more CS?
that's emilia i imagine?
Yes.
very good roll on atk, she could use ammo and CS% ye
double lock already 
elem atk on water code isn't very useful with current arena meta
17% CS Helm 🙏
one step closer to the ultra stall team 
I need to get some element damage and attack on her though...
if you aiming for pvp, elem atk on water code aint too useful
if you want her for pve/campaign, that'd help
Noted 
Thank you for the build suggestion! Unfortunately my team 3 still lost 😦 with their cinderella and redhood surviving. I think I need to reroll my scarlet's overload
scarlet on 10/4/10, SR5, 4OL (a bit of atk%)
trina on 4/7/7
liter invested
noir invested
see what you missing from the above
you could try with
scarlet noir trina rh jackal instead, as RH may add enough DPS you're lacking from trina or scarlet
keep in mind in this case scarlet needs to be 2nd or 1st highest atk%, or noir/RH may steal her link with jackal
Exactly that it's for PVE
@tropic summit what do you think of siren's in pvp ?
she has decent buffs and the ability to stun a taunter like noah
if she's stunned she can't burst too
based on her skill condition, stun doesn't trigger in pvp, as there's no "target"
her burst charge also procs on 400 bullets, you reach that with 5 SGs maybe in 4RL
first impressions as such: bad
Thank you! will retry after reset.
its sad it'd have been rly useful
do i hit him back
if you wanna start new season on ch2 sure, else he's gonna make you gem next one
hit him slightly pre reset in case
trick question i already did
he loses regardless
he is paying double the economy me and Khiren combined
plus i always have positive gain on gems
he is the one that's mad
since he's camping me and khiren
we are pretty relaxing so he's losing everything, like i said he even paid like 5k gems to get top 4 and still fails last season
not stonks 
i've already guaranteed my top 3 position
unless they want to shuffle the bracket again
god i hope not, can't endure having 8 9 psychopaths like that guy in my bracket
@tropic summit fun fact let me show you something, here's how i know he's stalking me
he just hit me within 2 minutes of that
and judging by the time, he should not hit me by now
he's in this server, and i knew him right away by the dead giveaway
hmm 3hrs of distance and he hit 8 mins right after
it's fine, he gets to stay top 2
technically he's not breaking any rule... but ye he's a special snowflake
i've already guaranteed my position, and so is khiren
all he's doing is wasting his game and i'm still laughing at him for it xdd
rather than laugh, i'd feel rather sad 
next season we'll just retake it again, it's 2 versus 1
look at his progress
pretty funny
looks like the kind of guy that would quit in a few months anyway

maybe you'll obtain peace then... 
yeah he's not quitting anytime soon, i'll break his mental, and i know you're reading this chat demian

They would sell it for 50$ trust.
I did that with mine once
keep changing your description, as if it's not obvious enough


CA sacc?

and on attack nowdays you've got all other more reliable easy options than saccing
sacc is more of a meme on sp arena
i miss alex, rest in peace
got recruited in the army to till land 
you can make it with anything, either low level synch with viper or mast or just an SR unit against ele weak
What bro just yap with me yesterday 
it's actuall a reconstructed AI of him
very realistic

Lv1 viper go go

that's actually how some ppl run it
maybe not lvl 1 but synch way lower than others
there's mad lads that sacc with scarlet even... 
it's all about being bored
Oh wait here he is
"got bored so i demoted to d1" ahh statement
Lol

That couldve been the most epic save of my life
My naga has more atk than my cindy,good or bad?
Imagine if you had Noah

Crown shouldn’t be in there, if anything, Biscuit should be there
I didn’t expect a 3 clear off him, surely he would of bursted before me
@keen vapor go do some snipe
It was a random team i made because i dont have much build pvp units so i can only made two teams,i still won tho and now im 3rd,ready to get my first ever 3k gem🙂
Maint now?
It's based on points accumulated not current rank.
Current rank is good going into a shuffle though
Wdym im the thrid guy in the sp arena now and ill get 3k gems?
Look at your points rank rather than your battle rank
In order to get it, you need to stay rank 3 through most of the season
It's not like rookie arena where you snipe people on the last day for a better season end reward.
and yes, that's nice n all, but that's only one extra net attack to be honest.
Oh
Every rank gives points per hour, higher ranks give higher points. You gotta stay at a higher rank more.
I can steal challenger 5 in my shuffle-bricked Leviathan SP server, but I won't hold that longer than the Leviathan I snipe therefore I'll get stuck with 2400 instead of 2700 as of now, so based on what you said so far, you won't get 3k.
I was 3rd in ranking but now im dropped down to 6th,im 7 in the point ranking and i want to go for 6th place to get 2.7k gems instead of 2.4k i have a total of 1.199 point range between the guy before me,will i be able to do that or should i go for 3rd rank to get more points asap or its not possible?
You need to stay as high as possible for as long as possible.
I can defend against whales, but can't hold against leviathans. That's why I can hold challenger at all. Your SP server is probably better distributed, so maybe next season you can get top 3
Never put cindy in p1 fyi
Sure way to lose a match
Why tho
Agreed since it raises burst gen and slightly nerfs her extra stack XD
U give ur opponent free 1.75x burst gen
She needs to be in either p3, p4, or p5
P3 can still get hit by emilia and A2, but they're collab units which most newbies lack and even that might not matter too much.
Leviathan should be 200+ synch against F2P.
you aren't attacking them let alone hold.
I'm not holding against Leviathans. I just said that. And you're shifting the goal posts of what a Leviathan is.
You said you are able to take them down. 
You aren't taking anyone above 40% deficit down
Better clarify hold many level gap your define them. 
I won but i drop down to 4th place now
im not spending any gems
Are we really getting into the nonsensical definition again that doesn't match up with the definition for other microtransaction based games use?
Leviathans spend thousands of usd annually for extra resources ingame. Whales spend hundreds of usd annually for extra resources in game. Just because you didn't start as early or push campaign as hard for sync levels, means nothing to me.
I'm f2p, these are whales, they have have multiple c7 nikke and other things.
and the top 5 plus pxz is a leviathan
Too much typing and zero level gap range mentioned. 
you can't make up a 1200 point gap that easily, it takes ~10 days if you're holding 1 rank higher. Even if you could hold 6 ranks higher, you'd need 40 hours
Sync level isn't the only thing for CP padding 
But it is main thing for defining whale. 
Except it literally isn't. People that started earlier have higher sync levels.
There is no "start earlier" in same bracket. Maybe 1 week most.
There's other things at play for CP padding. Sync levels are one facet.
If you wanted to comparing if you are bricked or not. Just say when you started, and your current synch level. Then I will discuss if you are bricking.

You really gonna tell me a C7 Scarlet with maybe 50 less sync levels is weaker than a 0star Scarlet.
That's funny.
Just an example
Yes, if they are same bracket. The other guy could pulled more and just unlucky.
For someone that claims to enjoying beating whales as a f2p, you can't seem to fathom that you can actually beat them. It's leviathans that are out of reach.
I'm gonna put this here. This is the only time I defended against a Leviathan but then lost after.
and u want sync levels, sure
But ur a funny guy. 
Leviathan that aren't out of reach, just for you. 
To me, anything called leviathan and not double my CP in my same bracket is just fake.
You sound like someone that considers Dolphins the same as f2p tbh, but f2p actually means f2p, leviathan means leviathan, and whale means whale.
Words have meaning. We'll leave it at that.
It's like saying people die when they are dead. 
In the sense it doesn't help with anyway.
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May i ask why you put R units in syncro
For memes since I have the sync slots
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they're completely uninvested, just synchronized and lvl 0 yellow slapped on.
Does get selected in the champion arena needs to within 4th rank or arena chips point ?
4th rank in points
@stuck pike i want to calculate cp difference between my team and enemy team on sp arena but i dont know the math,if im not mistaken after 15% cp deficity between my team and enemy team some of my buffs dont work? How can i calculate the cp percent different between the teams?
All your buffs work. It just nerfs your damage and your durability
Like lets say my team is 430k and enemy team is 540k,how do i calculate and whats the deficit?
enemy cp * 0.846 roughly
that is your min required cp to not be at deficit
540,000 * 0.846 = 456,840
If your server bracket is balanced, you won't run into CP deficit too much. For mine, I only have that and it is very severe.
or 0.85 if you don't want to remember it exactly to be safe 😛
The turning point is when your Biscuit can't turn your defender invulnerable because they one tap them.
That's the hopeless margin of difference
Im at the europe server but i dont have any idea how can a server bracket
i just plug it into excel
100%-my team cell/their team cell
It is based on when everyone starts to a degree, but the shuffles can really mess it up like mine.
got too lazy to get my calc out so i put mine right into my burst gen calc's personal copy
So I would be a little worried if your server seems balanced for now, the next shuffle might put you in a similar situation to mine.
If its happen how can i be aware of it?
There's nothing you can do. I'm just saying pray it doesn't and cope as best as you can if it does. As long as you hit at least challenger, you're doing fine honestly.
Okay,thank you
we had some new people join mine in the last shuffle but top 6 are all from my og SPA
Nouey was the only Levi in my SP before the last shuffle.
Before it was just whales, dolphins, and a few f2p.
whales and levis came outta the woodworks after.

What is levi in pvp?
It's someone that spent thousands of USD on the game, so they're going to have way more resources between pulls and other things
What are some good defense teams for SP arena?
Noise Cindy
Trina Scarlet Jackal
Blanc Biscuit Emilia/S.Anis/SBS or shotgun team or CP pad
Nah she gonna have a serious talk with little mermaid in the next chapters
No more Chainsawman movie as a collaboration option in Survey. Either it already arranged or they skipped it entirely.

Eva is still an option even if they just Collab 2 months ago.
We can hope its already set up

Makima was the original reason I started playing and I just barely missed her event. This is 
hit back
^
Dandadan needs to be the next collab we need baseball granny to whoop some ass
need to watch that one at some point tbh
last anime I was watching of recency was solo levelin' next season
next season damn! I just watched the last season :9
gotta watch for last min snipers
One punch man maybe too cliche but for this game, getting Tatsumaki sisters ass is good bless.
I don't see higher quality ass option here. 
Or gimme my Darkness from Konosuba.
OPM has the best options but they better include Psykos and Mizuki
Darkness would be the tank we need but don't deserve.
Megumin might be a Emilia 2.0
XMaiden is already Megumin at home 
Make her team killer. Both side take dmg. 
a wild Railtracer appears
If we stick to her headcannon, 1 ammo count.
a man of culture I see 
certainly good sir, and I am definitely not not buying the Mihara gacha skin
Later on she learned some basic magic I think so not one ammo anymore. 

megumin is mechashifty

Yeah. Nice April fool Collab.
She just Do-S
the real pilgrim we were given this time 
Must've been further in the manga because she asked protag-kun if she should learn any and he said no.



I need it
She only learned some tiny Basic magic skill. She still fully upgrade her nuke anyway.
Maybe I remembered it wrong. Though... I guess I did remember it wrong.
I'm sure there's a few random minor spells in her back pocket from childhood/school, but she never uses any of 'em.
We got a sneak peak of what her burst could be like because of Mecha Shifty.
Okay I remember, she could do more than one explosion later on so still no longer one ammo.
Well, maybe that can be a level 9 or 10 skill to upgrade her ammo to reflect that.
She could choice to either use small explosion or big explosion using all her Mana and be unable to move after. 
Self stun like Mast if no Anchor
Maybe require Darkness or Aqua to reduce stun duration

Is Diesel any good in pvp?
not on general purpose/use case, but she can still be used
for the 7 month in top 2
gottem again 
the 20s rule strikes again 

yummy yummy gems
dude who was ch3 for the entirety of the season is gonna have questions for scoring ch4 
f2p goals. going to be sad when the SP arena gets reshuffled and the people who havent been on in over a month now get replaced
aka the whale isekai, it can happen to anyone
just keep getting as much gems as you can, as long as possibru 
its been super gratifying slowly progressing up the ranks despite being f2p. have this channel to thank with helping me with teams!
Oh gem payout day
I was contemplating on using her as a secondary tank on one of my teams. Given that I just completely unlocked her treasure item, I was wondering if I could get some use out of her.
if you require the CP padding it can still work
although there's plenty of better choices
being a high feed character, you'd be helping any enemy scarlet or jackal comp
dang it
that doesn't seem to be according to keikaku 
my 4 atk s.anis is nuked 
indom s.anis instead on 2RL or go le good ol noah s.anis rh on 2RL 
That's why you will never win CA. The guys I faced always got Biscuit nukked instead. 
biscuit with more atk% than s.anis, perfectly normal behaviour 
That's why they are winners. 
gotem! 😄
naturally I came 1st again... I also opened a few doll crate things and got an AR doll for Blanc so she at least soaks up some damage now
purple one
ah yes steam commvnity
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Facing the exactly same teams, yet win or lose defending on Counter RNG. 
why are you running scarlet mirrors 
practicing for betting correctly in CA for those matchups?
The other team can't be 2rl without enough counter.
And only my Scarlet team high enough CP to win. 
surely this time 
Scarlet go!
where's your 2RL indom duel though, you were a master at that
scarlet indom vs scarlet indom for the extra 🍿
then let jesus take the wheel
I need indom to test another team. 
may the best scarlet win
invested reiT debut 
so you still have noah benched
She is in another team.
you going for 3 wins? 
3 win in the morning 2 lose in the night. All with same 3 teams. 
what a chad 
More about being hard head. 
This is also a test team. 
Mainly for dmg.
Not using both build exactly in CA....
THE MIRANDA TREASURE EMI 
I think this was my last chance to 3/3 him... He invested even more to Arena units after last CA now. And my luck with rock is abysmal.
you finally dishing it out 
Yeah being testing it for last 3 days.
is she gonna debut in your CA?
are you going to reveal it to the world, on TV?! 
Yeah, both ReiT+Rossa and Emi+Miranda. Not doing so well though.

well CA is going to be all about who you get matchmade against as teams
i think the noah + miranda + emi should've decent chances against most lineups, aside the usual no brainer 2RL scar-jack
the reit+rosanna is gonna have fun times against a lot of matchups instead tho 
Also, 2rl helm.
they can outlive your nuke? 
it's a frigging emi crit buffed nuke 
They can nuke my Emi. 
why isn't your biscuit higher atk% than emi
seems like a skill issue 
you should listen to your own words 
I may need my Miranda with 50% ATK. 
mother of god 
may aswell wish for a dragon, might be easier to realize
Miranda guarantee Crit only hitting highest ATK beside herself. Anyone else in the team with higher ATK than Emi and it won't work.
Even using Mana is pretty bricking because her high ATK% from skill. 

So if not placing HelmT (and has her snipe Mana) Emi won't get the Crit buff.
I could actually make Miranda higher ATK than Emi though, not impossible. But need more investment....
I will need to reroll Miranda for 4 ATK line and max her skill 1.


Probably not in time for next CA for that.
I just did NOT take an ATK line for Miranda today because low CP.... Should have taken it...oh well.
pair mirandaT with drakeT to one shot noah
cause in CA, many player make an unprotected 2rl noah team
yes... and then CA decides you won't match noah but scarlet instead 
although the idea is a good one
I gemed for this. sadly i can never beat number 1
@umbral belfry Did you make top 4?
@shell hazel speaking of collabs, where's Kirito's daughter
ofc 

how's the view from up there @umbral belfry 


little did they know who they were dealing with
LMAO
I don't want to deal with people gemming me, but it'd be nice to test every now and then
careful what you wish for sir 
I'm in the Goldilocks days of my server. I'm enjoying it. Trust me
the whels can hear you
they're carefully watching your every action
waiting to sneak into your ladder and claim that throne
gonna be in a bracket flooded with whales next reshuffle 
indeed, 10/10
the time of judgement is upon thee, @coarse solstice
you've now summoned the horde 
How weak is you sp arena then 
Bound to happen eventually
60k biscuit and noah or sum
Is little mermaid kit looks good for pvp?

maybe if the stun works in pvp, then eh but i have my doubts
at least she's cute
i've bad news
🥚

RIP Egg No BOoM💥

Was she overhyped or really bad for an aniv unit,i mean she is not that good in the story too
i'll just be
to see what chefs cook with mori
better than doro... 
JP will complain and shell get buffed

turn it from JP to CH then maybe it could matter
JP wouldn't make anything change 
i'm still
that she's not water for some reason
They have to stop complaining long enough for the game to launch. The first colab was already scrapped
Mihara kit tomorrow?
yeah not off to a great start haha
'bubbles? ah yes...let's make her wind'
bubbles made of wind 
mihara might be the true pilgrim instead 
as god planned it
Finally a maybe good unit for my missilis tower
i can finally make progress there now 
never in doubt 

Whats the best overall missilis tower team would you guys say right before mihara coming out
i was using ein/laplace(no treasure sadly/tia/naga/liter
must be nice having ein 
U dont?
I auto with this
MUST BE NICE 
no 
Well,i at least better you in a one way
(i hope youll get her soon my man)
What you currently run?
my man 
the amount of people who think i'm a dude is funny
lemme get my team
i truly am here fighting for my life 
it's just this tower
every other tower is easy
Im sorry miss Hime
Drake treasure good?
I had to look her up, accel world? not seen it :p
for pve 
If you're brave enough PVP
maybe she can shine in CA 
Oshi no ko collab
yeah you're on point
or google is anyway 😄
accel world story had potential, but somehow didn't click enough
if anything, i liked the plot and her character
as much as I like oshi no ko I don't really see this one working
think best collabs would be thematically somewhat near to the style of girls with guns
girls frontline klukai next surely 
Date a live?
Gurren Lagann please!
it's why we need collab for stuff like lycoris recoil, or black lagoon or w/e
The only sniper girl I need
sword art online gungale could work
Downloading gl2 rn
we converted one 
Gameplay is good
just wait until you see klukai's ||
||
yes, the gameplay, in particular the dormitory 

Only unit i remember her name was tololo or somethin

the hoshiboshi grill
I tried paying attention to the lore but we got raided some explosions happened some cube thingy had a little girl in it or something. Then i found out you can look at your dolls room 360 with being able to relocate them...
Shift Up hear me out
yes
Legitimately a great story. Nice to have an original concept get the love it deserves
action: check
comedy: check
animation: check
voice acting: check
character growth: check
interesting concept: check
almost seems like the recipe for a good anime 
You forgot a banger intro
oh haha yeah 
almost again 

Shikikan: Mom, I want a SAO collab
ShiftUp: We have an SAO collab at home
the SAO collab at home:



Imma say something controversial.... SAO was mid for me. I enjoyed it, but just wasn't my thing. It did kick off one of my favorite sub genres I got stuck in a VR whatever. (Which is just Truck-kun with extra steps). Might just be that it got old the longer it went on and my taste changed though
it WAS mid, don't worry
first season started off good, drifted further then into generic isekai
they milked it dry and long enough

soon my profile pic can be all sparkly
and shiny

i'm getting gacha skins (
), alice's, noise's, and liter's for sure. idk about the others yet
I have to check again what all is releasing
dolla's, diesel's, i might be missing one

Probably just going to get Alice, Siren, and Miharas
Never they don't want to release it when it's better than sirens. It'll be another 18 hour update to fix it
really wonder if they'll realize how silly siren's kit is
i'm surprised it even got through
god knows what's SU thinking anyway 
3 sec stun is Meta in Arena. 
yeah... just that the conditions... 
Will siren actually make it into pvp teams?
Nope
How long does 50 shots take for smg?
If it's applicable for Arena she will stun Scarlet 2rl before she burst. 
A whole 3 second stun. 
she gonna meet the same end as your favourite chubby grill
"The enemy" though 

@umbral belfry i feel like your personal bodyguard in rookie arena at this point
The enemy appears hasnt applied for pvp in the past has it?

No bubble no stun
There was no "the ENEMY appears" in the past.
Lmao
it was always "target appears" in the past
Say goodbye to P1 Scarlet 2-3rl. And P1 Noah 2.5-3.5rl. 
Yep the meta would just be thrown in the dumpster
well... it legitimately does read that way to me lmao
P1 Rapu/Soda/Mermaid+Scarlet
And P1 Noise Noah would be new high. 
Smh. It won't be that way so I'm not worried
it kinda makes sp defense pointless
Just don't put anything you worry of being stun at 3.5RL timing to p1.
Just new thing that need to remember like Cindy p1 is no no.
seems noah taunt would make herself the target regardless...
Already is tbh
Not with Noise stealing her taunt.

CA make it that Noise stealing Noah taunt is actually optimal now. 
You don't want HelmT to hit Noah.

LMAO why?
no nikke during work tomorrow for me 

feels like im here as a "to try to fight hime u gotta get through me first" kinda situation
to everybody else lmao
at least reshuffle is next month 
wait so reshuffles are actually a thing?
It's May 15th-ish i think?
i have an account that's uber bricked for pvp because it bugged out and upon account creation, it was placed with commander level 600 players
reshuffles are like every 3 months
Reshuffle has me nervous
redemption for that account?!?!
This little stun gonna be border line useless without applicable in Arena... Maybe use to lock on campaign stage bosses that jump around at best.
looking forward to sp arena reshuffle 
I like my chill group. 😭
maybe siren will help me beat normal behemoth 
Well, she will be good but not for her 1 time stun against behemoth ... Could just use Rapipi B1...
wait are pvp shuffles only still within similar account creation dates
i assume within acc creation dates?
Maybe +/- 2 weeks. 
ok nvm so im still bricked on that account
F 
its legit so bugged i created it during ice dragon saga, and it thinks it was created like 2 years ago
maybe you'll get lucky on your 4sh acc instead 
GGO: The Later Years: Life without P-chan
oh i was talking about a 3rd account, my other actual account is r1 in sp arena last i checked
lolol
I don't recall saying that




