pvp-arena

[umbral crown]

lottery 100%

[tropic summit]

good god

[swift mango]

I knew using Drake+DKW instead of RH+LapT for my Scarlet team would bite me in the ass right when CP padding no longer a thing in CA.

[tropic summit]

what are the odds there's 5 teams

[tropic summit]

i think it's still pretty damn fine team if it got you to finals

you just had worse luck than opponent

[umbral crown]

blood at least has the besto frame in game

[tropic summit]

indeed

he brings home a victory

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/pool-boy-dopinder-deadpool-live-the-dreams-mr-pool-gif-22377230

[swift mango]

The only time I won against a completent team with it was Borealis. But that's because Jackal, not Drake or DKW.

[umbral crown]

maybe next season imma change my name to jp so it gives me some luck

or cn

[tropic summit]

suddenly everyone betting on you

cuz CH name, must be skilled

[umbral crown]

its a sigm

[tropic summit]

extra RNG in favour

[umbral crown]

against the cn boi i had most bets but team 1 id not work

[swift mango]

It I had LapT in Drake place. Or RH in DKW place I would have won.

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

silly you, why you didn't do that, should've known the future

[lone sequoia]

and ask people not to bet on you, so you avoid the curse

[tropic summit]

your magic crystal skills are lacking tch tch tch

[umbral crown]

yeah

[swift mango]

But I needed to move LapT away to make my team CP balanced at 660k each.

[umbral crown]

imma change profile pic in game, banner and everything

[lone sequoia]

remember, try to get more kill pressure and cover more elements

[umbral crown]

like a new me

[tropic summit]

imagine finding out then that CP doesn't matter in CA at all

[umbral crown]

but to flex the total cp

i would

[tropic summit]

running a CP pad team expecting it to work the same as in sp arena for it to only lose every single match

[umbral crown]

i had the 2nd highest cp among all people in our league

highest was ph boi at 3.4, i was 3.3

[tropic summit]

PvP investiment is something else

true master chef

[umbral crown]

missing some better lines but now teams looks better

than before

https://tenor.com/view/station19-andy-herrera-we-make-mistakes-and-we-learn-from-them-and-we-do-better-next-time-gif-24504909

tip of the day:

[swift mango]

Dude who won actually flexed 2 teams. But he got there and won my gacha on Scarlet crit. But not like I didn't know it could happen.

[umbral crown]

it was a surprise

[tropic summit]

makes you realize how silly CA is

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

will try to do that

[swift mango]

It's just silly because they didn't give out the rule before we actually enter the fight.

[umbral crown]

and still we have not gotten the rules, just us guessing

[tropic summit]

there's next time, you know what to expect now

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

So do other people. And I don't even have Rapu to flex the stun.

[hushed kelp]

Whats ASS stand for? Lol

[tropic summit]

bring out your soda

[umbral crown]

rail, thats blood sending us a message

[swift mango]

Anis Sparking Summer

[tropic summit]

Anis Sparkling Summer, or also ASS

[hushed kelp]

Ah j ty

[lone sequoia]

most people will not fix cs to use soda

[pale knoll]

Where your CA champ at

[swift mango]

She would die to Scarlet counter in no time flat without investment

[tropic summit]

he's hiding his secret weapon: le emilia + miranda

[swift mango]

Imagine losing the mirror match because so

[tropic summit]

just link your soda, get her 4OL, run temperance, run SR5+ doll

[umbral crown]

imagine bursting with emi

[pale knoll]

Imagine playing nikke

[tropic summit]

imagine actually playing the game

[umbral crown]

could not be me

[pale knoll]

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

Next next CA then. Still need to OL my Miranda.

[tropic summit]

i'm still waiting for the video

[umbral crown]

but she has dupes for treasure?

wanted to treasure her but 0 dupes

[swift mango]

I have her exactly lb2

[umbral crown]

waos, go for it

go 7-10-10

[swift mango]

Already done with the treasure. Just no OL done.

[umbral crown]

blood cooking

now you have probably 2 teams full max doll

[swift mango]

I wish

[umbral crown]

we can always wish

go also milk

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

lifesteal

[swift mango]

My Emi has some Crit rate so Miranda only need s2lv8 which she is there.

[tropic summit]

the miranda showcase is approaching

[umbral crown]

2 mor elevels

s2 give ssome atk i think

[swift mango]

3% more Crit dmg

[umbral crown]

its a bit but it adds up

[swift mango]

Not throwing my mats on that

[keen vapor]

Where Livestream

[umbral crown]

in youtube

[vapid lake]

livestream will be in the evening for me very nice

Watch while having dinner

[umbral crown]

why not

just go for it

[swift mango]

Because it could go to somewhetr else

[umbral crown]

we wanna see interesting teams next CA

[tropic summit]

at your house, let's go

[umbral crown]

finally making your emi max skill

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

about time

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

[vapid lake]

nah ppl will copy paste the winners of current CA

no interesting teams

[tropic summit]

my doro

[umbral crown]

you can not copy a team if the units are not invested uwu

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

[vapid lake]

doesn't matter people will copy anyway without understand what makes it work or how it works

[swift mango]

I wish they copy my CA winner.

[vapid lake]

they see "WOW THIS TEAM WON ME COPY"

[umbral crown]

imagine copying a rosanna teama nd their rosa is 4-4-4

[rich quail]

Yup
A lot of whels do pve
so the investment is dry on some units

[umbral crown]

[vapid lake]

u really think mr whale who's sync lv 800 and doesnt care about pvp is going to seriously learn pvp now because of CA?

no way

just copy CA winner teams

[umbral crown]

some would fo rthe besto frame

[swift mango]

They have free resource from people like @blissful willow

[rich quail]

They might not bother
because some are so behind compared to dedicated pvp players

[umbral crown]

i just need to skill resets before next CA

[tropic summit]

wow that nero moran looks so strong: proceeds to run blue doll nero moran without temperance

[umbral crown]

and without max skill

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

And prolly they will put in the wrong order

[tropic summit]

why, order matters? [c] 550+ synch whel

[rich quail]

Yeah if they make a unit burst when they shouldn’t

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

now im confident my team can tank scar trina red hood

top 8 here we go

[rich quail]

All I can do is keep building up pvp units

Because currently I have 5 whales and 1 crazy gemmer in my group

So I can’t go higher because cp penalty is too high

[onyx scaffold]

Yes skill reset will come before the 3rd CA

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1335428072689635378.png?v=1

[umbral crown]

ready to reset rapipi and crown

everything for the besto frame in game

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-marvel-small-price-pay-for-salvation-gif-14748250

[onyx scaffold]

Actually yeah. The next CA is on 24th. Same time as new update. We should have a few hours to reset then invest in pvp

[keen vapor]

But we will get more skill mat income

[lunar pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/excuse-me-gif-18686335

[onyx scaffold]

I will reset dorothy 101010

And maybe maxwell

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

he's right

[tropic summit]

surface exploration doko

[swift mango]

Well, you can tank it but you won't fight it with that team.

[onyx scaffold]

Do u know what frames are the best?
||the ones you miss||

[tropic summit]

i've missed so many things in nikke that it's normal occurence

you don't wanna be a collector in gacha games

[umbral crown]

but but in the video i won so it should be the same in ca expecting more hp on the team

[keen vapor]

Ok

[tropic summit]

you don't agree?

[onyx scaffold]

But u want the CA frame

[umbral crown]

ssakura also

[swift mango]

I mean Scarlet will hit your team that it could win while that team hits their worst flex team

[keen vapor]

Time to open cakes

[tropic summit]

i'll be honest, i don't care about any of the frames, never cared about flexing

[onyx scaffold]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1273254843968126996.png?v=1

[umbral crown]

cares about pvp frame

[onyx scaffold]

Then cook for me next CA

[tropic summit]

no really i don't, in any game i played i never cared about profiles or badges or the likes

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

i'm in for the fun/playing/gameplay, appearence i never bothered

[tropic summit]

only 1 CA team i cooked out of 10 got to win, do you believe in that 10% chance?

[swift mango]

Did utrawhat won the CA for you?

[tropic summit]

ya he did, he's even on TV

[onyx scaffold]

Ok. I will cook and u will fix them

[swift mango]

What TV?

[umbral crown]

the TV

[tropic summit]

bro's famous now, he's not a pleb like us

[swift mango]

That is TV?

[umbral crown]

and even unionless

[tropic summit]

obviously, look at that big screen

[swift mango]

[onyx scaffold]

A guy sync 238 won CA on global server

[tropic summit]

he walks a lonely road

[tropic summit]

got a few lucky matchups, but also pretty stable teams

[swift mango]

When CP doesn't matter but no one knows.

And people win due to sheer luck with matching

[umbral crown]

the low sync know something

[tropic summit]

one of my matchups had 80% deficit

[umbral crown]

nani

[tropic summit]

yup.

whel CP pad team against my lowest invest was fun

[umbral crown]

bro is the next chef, i trust

[onyx scaffold]

My Exia cook has 100% winrate in CA

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

They know they couldn't CP pad so might as well copy/make proper teams for nothing and actually won.

[umbral crown]

it was kinda auto and hope for the best

[tropic summit]

now now, don't be rude, everyone deserves a chance

especially in a game mode that is essentially more than 70% pure RNG

[onyx scaffold]

I bet so

I had to use exia for cp padding

[swift mango]

Yeah, it's probably low level people only chance. Next CA you won't see them high anymore.

[tropic summit]

wouldn't be so sure

low sync that gets 2 matchups where they counter opponent only need 1 extra match out of the remaining 3

and that can happen with several opponents in a row

[swift mango]

Synch 236 doesn't have the resources to invest in anything. With synch 400 people doing proper teams. Their chance to lucky with match up to the champion practically none.

[tropic summit]

and yet...

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

No one doing proper team on global.

[onyx scaffold]

Remember that there are leagues. The sync 238 guy must be in newbie league too

[umbral crown]

[onyx scaffold]

It is like sea ppl fighting against bot. Everything is about luck at this point

[swift mango]

Newbie league is up to lv400 f2p synch in SEA. IDK about global.

[tropic summit]

SEA is really gonna need to raise the entrypoint for CA from ch4 to further down

it's ridicolous to run with bots when ppl could be competing instead

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

It's actually 421+ even. My bracket is newbie bracket with one guy in our union at that synch F2P.

[onyx scaffold]

You know the req to join CA right? It is normal to have thousand sync200-350 guys in CA for global server

[swift mango]

236 won't beat 350 on investment period.

3 month in vs 1 year in.

Unless that 236 was 9 months in a bracket full of brick

[umbral crown]

echo s case

[swift mango]

Which is possible for global I guess

[swift mango]

He is bricked but his bracket isn't full of him.

I figured @vapid hemlock lis would have won the CA if it was him who won against me instead. He is more deserving of it than the other guy based on investment alone

[wise horizon]

think im lacking to punch through Moran/Noah (T3), right?

[wooden geode]

hello guys, can someone tell me what exactly this comp is cooking?

[stuck pike]

Switching RH and Emilia. Simple change.

[pale knoll]

Cooking defeat

[stuck pike]

It has terrible burst gen especially because that helm has no treasure.

[wise horizon]

oh that simple? <,M

[stuck pike]

RH bursting should punch through the Cinderella and Moran.

That team has no buffs either besides Helm's ATKdmg and crit skills.

Just a moran DR for 10s and Noah invuln for 3

[wise horizon]

yeah i tried and moran held out til the end

[wise horizon]

ok. i will give it a go

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

but you won, be happy for it

there will be always a next time for the boi

like next week for example

[pale knoll]

No, esta destinado a perder

https://tenor.com/view/peepocomfy-peepo-comfy-cozy-blanket-gif-24439687

[swift mango]

Yeah, there will always next time. I would need much more luck anyway. Getting to top 2 already lots of luck already.

[swift mango]

Your synch level? Below 321 you have no business winning this

It's just bad CP team

[wooden geode]

what?

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

you kinda used the luck of the month haha

455 with that cp

[umbral crown]

tu cresss

[pale knoll]

Si

[shell hazel]

dolls doko?

[swift mango]

If I used it all I would have reached rank 1. There are at least 3 guys on my side of the bracket whose line up could beat that guy easily.

[umbral crown]

they ran out of it sadly

but your luck was limited

try to reset your luck next week

https://tenor.com/view/something-omori-omori-something-something-omori-stranger-gif-26299605

[swift mango]

Already there.

[swift mango]

I upload wrong image.

[umbral crown]

i gambaed today with a phase 10 but got phase 11

i remember my blanc went to phase 13 to get max

[swift mango]

I pitied SR15 with that image.

[umbral crown]

practically 1 month failing

[swift mango]

At least 14 to 15, 100% with red confirmed.

[umbral crown]

yeah, if not i would be mad

but the hope is to max doll before next CA

[swift mango]

Saved like 20 red there.

[umbral crown]

5 more days to gamba

i have 8, used like 400 gems resetting to get the ramining 2 but luck wa snot in my side

got purples but failed all

[swift mango]

Finally stage 7 for the first time. I finally got the trick, no shooting tentacle at the end and just focus on the core.

No point finish with full HP when I can just tank tentacle and deal more dmg instead

[minor pier]

can u help me build 3 pvp teams?

[coarse solstice]

😅 Cup invited me over to his guild

[swift mango]

I upgraded the wrong arm... More than 1 million Credit gone.

Rapu when?

Never.

[harsh tendon]

sum1 help me cook up my special arena teams pls

current teams rn

[minor pier]

can u help me build 3 pvp teams?
sum1 help me cook up my special arena teams pls

pvp help?

anyone?

where are you?

[sleek imp]

Just got her, she looks good for pvp becasue of her burst, is she viable atm?

[umbral belfry]

nope

[sleek imp]

Seriously? even w a 700% dmg on burst lv1?? isnt that bascially nuke

oh, scarlet is like 600% to all

[umbral belfry]

While the dmg % is good, there's better options for a main b3. but if you don't have any other option then i guess?

[minor pier]

[umbral crown]

waos, the pvp frame doing some stonks

[umbral crown]

sadly nope uwu

[atomic wolf]

Your profile picture is very, how to say this

[swift mango]

Is have confirmed that Miranda s3lv5 is better than MLB RH s3lv10 even on the Crit nuke. My Emi only with 1 ATK line. The more ATK+Crit dmg line the more it's on the favor of Miranda.

[umbral crown]

hawt

[atomic wolf]

I just hope the mod doesn't see it or you'll die

[umbral crown]

no worries, they do not check pvp channel

[atomic wolf]

Yeah they have like one channel to go and its #nikke

[umbral crown]

yeah

this is a nice channel

[minor pier]

pvp help?
anyone?
where are you?

[sleek imp]

Im here! Im challenger 6 you can trust me

[minor pier]

[umbral crown]

wait wait wait

[minor pier]

#pvp-arena message

[umbral crown]

then i just need to get all out for miranda

[swift mango]

On The otherhand. I wasted 6 rock today to reroll CS 3.18% to CS 1.98% x2 times.

[umbral crown]

then the new way is miranda cooking

arigatou

i can stop suffering now

wastes all gems on ordinary

[swift mango]

[atomic wolf]

Miranda pvp?

[umbral crown]

i need dupes to activate her treasure

[umbral crown]

blood says buff is better than RH

then im in

[swift mango]

Just pray for RH then.

[umbral crown]

lets pray

[swift mango]

Only on the Nuke, the after dmg, if not crited, are worse.

[umbral crown]

then its all in or nothing

ein gonna carry then

[swift mango]

On the other hand, the nuke of RH buffed is worse even if Crit and doesn't have guaranteed Crit.

[umbral crown]

i mean i just need rh to buff b1

soo

rh issues

[atomic wolf]

Its blood cooking I'm scared

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

blood issues?

[leaden canyon]

anybody know how to beat this

[swift mango]

My cooking is clearly bad I can't get CA top 1.

My team ordering suck ball. Skill issue.

[swift mango]

Do your Emi linked in this set up?

[minor pier]

i want a cook

[leaden canyon]

nope

[swift mango]

Emi(no vigor)+Blanc+HelmT(vigor)+Crown+Jackal

[atomic wolf]

Does laplace have good burst gen?

[swift mango]

Okayish with treasure.

Noir tier

But could enhance with Charge speed

And P2-3-4 Noise taunt. Also Cindy p1-2. Rossana p1.

[leaden canyon]

whats crown do here

[atomic wolf]

Hmmm

[umbral crown]

then skill issues

[swift mango]

Buff Emi while no steal link from her like RH.

[umbral crown]

now go and buy books in the shop

[minor pier]

#pvp-arena message

[leaden canyon]

Hopefully cp diff doesn't matter

[umbral crown]

cp iissues

[leaden canyon]

damn

[swift mango]

It does matter

[leaden canyon]

Guess I'll send it when I pop my boxes when new chapter comes out

thats the whale in my bracket

[umbral crown]

you kinda need 30k cp more to avoid deficit but still

also 4 units max core and rapu c4

[swift mango]

There are more option but Idk your nikke stats so it's harder

[umbral crown]

[leaden canyon]

Its mostly jackal bringing the cp down

[crystal flicker]

IF only that one Red Hood can kill Noise Cindy, I should've got the cheer frame smh

[leaden canyon]

shes 172k.

bad overlods for cp pad

[swift mango]

Noah+Biscuit+Emi+RH+HelmT then.

Now Noah and Biscuit bringing CP down?

[leaden canyon]

yeah that would be a higher cp level

nah they are higher

[minor pier]

#pvp-arena message

[swift mango]

Send

[sage burrow]

something off about this defense team… trina not bursting?

[leaden canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-vapus-dance-goddess-of-victory-nikke-gif-13500786934828871115

it worked

[swift mango]

It's normal uninvested trina. Used just for the Invulnerable buff

[leaden canyon]

My defense is super cooked btw

My SP teams suffering, I think I need to do the scar soda comp

[swift mango]

@umbral crown , found out Noah invulnerable doesn't activate if she killed mid bursting.

[leaden canyon]

oh dang is that miranda treasure?

[swift mango]

Yeah

[leaden canyon]

I'm working towards it but it sucks I dont have mana

no mana in CA was pain

[swift mango]

Mana doesn't work here you see.

She also has too much ATK she would stead Miranda Crit buff from Emi.

[leaden canyon]

ah yeah, I guess she still goes with sbs in CA

[swift mango]

SBS need to be in SG team to get Mana buff.

It works though

[valid fern]

Ross + SG team, SBS + SG team

So what is this Ross SG team anyways. Is the theory that if you vs scarjack, your SG will sacc and then you snipe Scar?

[leaden canyon]

yeah that rosanna sg team seemed to work pretty good in CA

[swift mango]

SBS+Rossanna+Mana+Blanc would tank SG team to only 1 SG

[umbral belfry]

I am no cook but put Laplace in synchro. you'll need her treasure for pvp

Rosanna eventually too but that's high invest

[crystal flicker]

I have 4Atk lines in Rosanna, should I reroll for good 3rd line or leave it as is and roll tier instead?

[valid fern]

new meta is to reset scarlet s2 now?

[leaden canyon]

Need something else, the noah team used to be 2RL cindy and also moran helm lap drake noah a tripple treasure team.

Working on overloading soda

[sage burrow]

I regret not getting emilia 🗿

[leaden canyon]

yeah thats painful in a pvp bracket where others have her

I hope we get rezero collab rerun

[valid fern]

my CA opponents had Emilia. Meanwhile my account didn't start until Crown event

doesn't matter tho. Got the dub. One win is all you need.

[sage burrow]

she haunts me in spa bro, im trading rank 3 and 6 against some guy who has her and it is pain

[crystal flicker]

Still prefer 2RL Cindy tbh, at least she'll waste opponent Noah

[umbral crown]

waos

[valid fern]

yeah my 3RL Cindy was borderline useless the whole CA.

[umbral crown]

means you need a strong noah to hold till burst

is not your noah max doll?

[covert lintel]

she did immune for 3s for other nikke
but since she get revived during her burst, she didn't get any of her immune

[minor pier]

dont have LB2
and my 30 slots are full.

[umbral crown]

[unique wagon]

Everyone was immune sir

[raven plover]

he meant noah herself

[quick lake]

yeah, shield application has slight delay, just like blanc

[umbral crown]

skill issues indeed

[worthy knoll]

It activated, but she got the buff while she was still alive and then lost it when she died during the delay. Revived Noah has no buffs on her that are granted before she died

[desert loom]

Thanks for the free execution Shift Up:

[unique wagon]

Try Cindy's skin

[valid fern]

dang the silver one really does look better

[desert loom]

That does in fact look like one of the best combo's in the game

[valid fern]

everything is more beautiful with Cinderella

[spiral onyx]

Meow supremacy

[charred vigil]

Q: Is the 2RL team's burst 3 faster than 2.5RL team's burst 2?

To be more specific, can Noah in a 2.5RL team block the scarlet's Nuke in a 2RL team?

[spiral onyx]

Meow supremacy

[sudden drift]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-super-troopers-gaffigan-gif-26593847

[quick lake]

No, only b1 will proc before bb3

[unique wagon]

Perfection

[unique wagon]

What was deleted

[oblique ridge]

Looking great

I have the top 64 winged bronze frame with Naga gacha atm and that too looks great color-match-wise

[hushed kelp]

How much cs% dies emilia need exactly for 2RL boost? Can someone plz tell me, Im at 37.4% and need to know if i still need one or two more cs OL black lines.

[unique wagon]

Dont bother

Thats alr super close + u want at least 2 ammo + ele + atk

One ammo is not enough for u for indom war because of how fast ure charging

[hushed kelp]

I can stop rerolling for cs%???

She has two lines of ele and ammo already, none of atk tho ._. I need to work on Thelm cs% now

[unique wagon]

Its 38%

U need atk bruh

No point bursting fast if u deal no dmg

[atomic wolf]

there was an attempt ahh border

[unique mountain]

Wan wan supremacy

[quick lake]

25% from OLs + CS cube. 1% less than target should be fine imo. 2.1RL vs 2RL should be functionally the same

[quick lake]

Helm to 25% next

[hushed kelp]

7adjutant with 2 blue and black OL cd lines?

Does 25% provide much more than 17-20% on her?

[coarse solstice]

Don't my helm is at 17 finally...

[quick lake]

Supposedly u can B2 before opponent B3 with 25% cs helm. But have yet to test

Cause no one has 25% yet

[hushed kelp]

D:

[quick lake]

Where did rank for CA!

[quick lake]

Ur 37% Emi should be godly

[hushed kelp]

I fell at top 8 😦

[quick lake]

Next CA surely

Considering I made top 8 without Emilia

Need to start investing in more pvp units

[hushed kelp]

I need to invest in this SG meta, im way behind with it

Gotta treasure drake and invest in bsoda

[umbral crown]

moto gonna go for the win, 37% emi is god tier

[hushed kelp]

Would either of these teams be viable for CA? And which would perform better?

[quick lake]

I personally dislike unbuffed SBS, cause likely u’ll lose to Moran/Noise buffed opponent teams.

2RL SBS still likely loses to 2RL Noah cindy due to lack of dmg though u win 2RL Scar Trina (u also lose to commonly used 3RL Moran Biscuit SAnis)

2RL unbuffed Emi, loses to whatever RL Noise/Moran and loses to 3RL Noah. Loses too many matchups imo

[keen vapor]

In short, no

[keen vapor]

An important thing to considerate for CA is to not use too much key units on the same team

[keen vapor]

You what? why I can't be top 4

[hushed kelp]

This team is actually what i have left over after using all my key units

[quick lake]

Investment issue I had to compensate my lack of Emilia with alot of 17% cs units

[keen vapor]

What you did for Scar team if not jackal

[keen vapor]

I'm investing but my Summer Anis doesn't gets ele

[quick lake]

I think SBS kinda sucks in CA. Need to look at the data but i dont think SBS appears that frequent in top8/16

[quick lake]

U want atk for SAnis

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

but the padding and raids

[quick lake]

If anyone could compile top8 teams from their league that would be helpful

[keen vapor]

Oh, 2 ammo I'm on troubles

[quick lake]

Surprisingly, Scar paired with Jackal ~70% of the time

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

You mean champion duel?

[quick lake]

yeah, the final top8 peep’s teams

[keen vapor]

-# 4 hours till news

The waiting I want to know now

C'mon just give us something

[keen vapor]

I would quantum Scarlet tbh

Wait no, I'm stupid

Why Trina does not have quantum

[hushed kelp]

Out of quantam cubes

Lol

[gusty elk]

how to counter this

[keen vapor]

[quick lake]

Noah Biscuit SAnis

[keen vapor]

2 RL summer anis

[quick lake]

Can be 4RL also

[keen vapor]

Or Emilia

[hushed kelp]

I am a bit worried scar dies before getting off burst

[keen vapor]

Your scar won't die from unleveled cube

[keen vapor]

And that's why Trina should have quantum

[keen vapor]

That's good
A single Scar proc will do

-# Don't tell them

[hushed kelp]

Lol

[keen vapor]

...... 4 quantum will be the funniest thing

Don't listen to me, I need to sleep

Welfare will be Elysion unit if SU is following a pattern

Harvest moon mode

Changes for CA..... Zzzzzzzzzz

[quick lake]

what??

[valid fern]

"we've heard your feedback and we've decided to remove CA, thanks for playing"

[gusty elk]

thanks

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/cr1tikal-penguinz0-meme-woo-yeah-baby-gif-19316511

[vapid lake]

Nah they wont remove it now, they'll prolly just make a few half hearted changes then call it a day like they did to other game modes

Until all jp whales start complaining then they'll actually do something drastic

[gaunt viper]

Thoughts on how to beat this comp? T1 and T2 Lost, T3 won 🤔

[quick lake]

Swap teams 1 and 2

[gaunt viper]

alright I'll try it, ty

[gaunt viper]

Well I'll be damned, clean sweep. I was overthinking it this whole time. Thank you

[quick lake]

Wooo! Sweep indeed

[strong hull]

Rex boy @quick lake i need some idea for def

[quick lake]

what ideas

[vapid hemlock]

hahah end of the day its a 50 50 hahaha you either win it or you dont hahaha, stay safe everyone and stay awesome!

[swift mango]

Yeah, thanks for clarifying but ofc it activated or it won't flash her skill name in the video.

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

[strong hull]

Need some unique team beside scar jack and noah bis

[unique wagon]

Wtf paper Rumani

[quick lake]

Moran Helm Lap xMaiden Noah
Scar Soda Trina
Moran/Noise Rumani Bay Cindy THelm
Rosanna Mari Quiry
Pepper SSak
Noise/Milk MAnchor Helm
Nero Moran Helm
Privaty Laplace Emilia/xMaiden
Quiry Blanc Scar xAnne Jackal

[strong hull]

[quick lake]

Realistically, MAnchor teams if u wanna invest in her

Super niche teams

[strong hull]

Sure thing i can try all

As long as it work i will considering using it

Else we gonna do sussy business

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
naga centi cind helmt RRH
noah biscuit rapu s.anis xmaiden

quantum on jackal
vigor on blanc, biscuit, rapunzel
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis, s.anis must be lvl 9 no ammo OL
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

notes:

-wishlist/build: rumani, trina
-raise your CP on your utilities like centi, jackal, noah, biscuit, rapunzel, noise
-can aim for 2RL cindy or improving T1 speed once rumani/trina are available

[quick lake]

Once again, if anyone could share their CA league's top 8 teams, do pm me or post here

[tropic summit]

naga viper cind anis rh
bsoda alice blanc n102 jackal
crown grave mana biscuit sbs

[tropic summit]

my two finalists (left ended up winning on scarlet matchup)

[swift mango]

@kind palm

How was your Soda fare last season mate?

I mean, did you used her in CA?

[minor pier]

woah! ❤️ tysm!!!

[swift mango]

I think it's pretty obvious Blanc scarlet beat Blanc Emi. I run that match up over 10 times at least when I was still using Emi to burst. It doesn't matter if scarlet is faster or slower, only matter if she still has bullet when Emi Indom ends

Maybe it's because you don't have Emi.

[atomic wolf]

https://vxtwitter.com/nameless_one508/status/1913396185723011436

gets unlucky with cheer
wins anyways

無銘＠NIKKE (@[e-mail])

チャンピオンアリーナの全試合で予想を外してがっかりしてたんですが、なんかすっごい綺麗なフレームもらえました😆

vxTwitter / fixvx · Apr 19, 2025, 12:56 AM

[swift mango]

Hmm I will have to check CA leader board to find out then.

CA Winners per server

JP - 31
Global - 11
KR - 10
NA - 7
HMT - 6
SEA - 4

No wonder Global has a synch 236 win a CA ... SEA has lv421ish for lowest bracket. No way in hell, 236 would win.

Being SEA player is suffering in sweat I guess.

[quiet fiber]

I don't know what's giving this guy trouble, but it looks like they finally gave up. That team you recommended destroyed this guy.

[swift mango]

Maybe he was testing his team today.

Feelbadmans. I wanted to test my team on him too... Lost 1 attack chance today.

[spiral onyx]

Damn, even Taiwan has more players than SEA

[swift mango]

SEA is suffering in sweat because too little casual players to beat on.

@kind palm

I didn't see you in top 32 listing. Better luck next time....

I'm still waiting for a report on Trina succeeding.

Okay, Besti got top 1 in SEA Second rank bracket with P3 Soda. Not the p2 Soda I'm looking for but yeah.

Soda is stronk

[kind palm]

yeah I lost the top 64 match my filler team was bad

[kind palm]

freeze from NA win with soda team

my union member got to top 16 with soda team too

[swift mango]

P2 Soda?

Or P3 like Besti?

[kind palm]

yeah

[swift mango]

Did it beat any 2RL team?

[kind palm]

exactly the scar soda trina jackal team

ask him lol

[swift mango]

I guess I will stop OL my Miranda and OL soda Head+Body piece first.

[swift mango]

Okay thanks for the info friend

[swift mango]

Is your Soda linked in your Scar+Soda team?

And if not, her doll level?

[kind palm]

linked doll sr5

[calm gull]

same

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1360832513827803259/image.png?ex=6804768a&is=6803250a&hm=8f8da5d1bb1622ba21e4d2818b2426861d426ad1f56dd46ae4fb181b3e5395da&

[kind palm]

oh I won prelim but lost the next match

[calm gull]

oh

for me it was unfair, kinda

[kind palm]

my soda team win 4 matchups

then other team lost

note that my soda team is like 1.9RL speed

[swift mango]

At least Besti won Arena.

[swift mango]

XAnne need a rerun. My ReiT need her so bad.

I wished I spent more rock on other units than minmaxing Scarlet+Crown+Jackal for nothing.

Now I'm too deep in I can't stop

[atomic wolf]

i thought i was girl bossing it

but it turns out i was the boss baby

[ripe merlin]

Sr5 doll for Biscuit?

[swift mango]

Why not? You don't need her CP for spa ?

[minor pier]

the dmg reduction!

[noble perch]

can i have some team recommandation for arena ? plz

[late tiger]

How many bursts can a team with 2RL pull against a team with 3RL before it bursts?

*and after 2.5 years I am now silver in chat

[quick lake]

U only burst once

2RL -> 3RL is like 1.3second difference

[late tiger]

I see, so by the time 3rl burst, 2rl already burst twice

[quick lake]

What do u mean burst twice. U only B3 once

[late tiger]

RL2 = B1, b2 before RL3 can even use B1

[quick lake]

U're probably referring to this:

U can see the exact Burst at each RL

[late tiger]

Ye, that is what i meant, thanks

[eager mountain]

[quick lake]

[covert lintel]

@keen vapor

[eager mountain]

surely not water code
so mihara is ig

[swift mango]

Miranda power creep soon. I wasted my mat on her.

[vagrant ravine]

i need a help guys is any team can counter this enemy team above?

[swift mango]

Must be fated telling to pick Siren over Mihara Overspec. Upgraded this by mistake yesterday.

Also, got myself a blue SMG doll.

From box

[harsh tendon]

oh ye i got rumani but no trina

[covert lintel]

oh right siren is supporter pilgrim
i thought it would be atker

rip

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

SMG and continuously

This combination doesn't sound so good for Arena ... Maybe just another CDR to powercreep Volume.

[covert lintel]

let's cope her S1 is an upgrade of xmica

[eager mountain]

lol mihara is fire

[loud sonnet]

I've been scrolling on fb these past 3 days but i didnt see it

[hushed kelp]

Doesnt seem like either anni unit is gonna be pvp worthy

[quick lake]

Mori 👀

P5 tank surely

[hushed kelp]

Do we have skill set for her?

[quick lake]

Related to shields, burst gen

[hushed kelp]

What weapon type is she?

[quick lake]

AR i think

idk tbh

[raven plover]

every 10 bullets, taunt iirc

[quick lake]

She gets another stronger shield when her shield breaks

[loud sonnet]

Mori is the free one ye?

[quick lake]

yeah free one

[raven plover]

yes mori calliope

[quick lake]

I suspect P5 tank against SG teams

[loud sonnet]

[quick lake]

Some Moran-ish skills

[raven plover]

ok 10 10 10 rill

[loud sonnet]

Free pvp unit

[covert lintel]

moran mori moru moro more

[raven plover]

no mention about CA yea?

like upgraded rewards or something

[loud sonnet]

Nothing

We wait for KR JP players to complain to get change

[raven plover]

ok good gonna ignore nero for now

[loud sonnet]

Kinda sad cindy lost the poll then announced a new cindy gacha skin

[quick lake]

Isnt her skin free? idk

[loud sonnet]

Wait its not gacha skin

Maybe a monthly pass or event pass skin

[raven plover]

cindy is mission pass

[keen vapor]

Like Yuni

[loud sonnet]

Nice

[keen vapor]

Everyone wins

[night tinsel]

Memento mori

[spiral onyx]

Having another anti-AoE that's stronger than Bay would definitely be nice, but I don't have high hopes. Plus, not a RL or SR

[swift mango]

Yeah, no way they make a new Pilgrim better in Arena than raid.

[swift mango]

For real?

[raven plover]

ye cus the SR fire weak

[swift mango]

Maybe SR is fire and weak to wind.

[covert lintel]

is skill reset mentioned?

[swift mango]

[raven plover]

yes

[vapid lake]

iron copers on s*icide watch

resetted SW for cindy long ago, no regrets

[swift mango]

so time to reset summer Anis.

[vapid lake]

[covert lintel]

finally i can abandon liberation nikke

[vapid lake]

reset modernia after SR over

[raven plover]

mihara is sustain dmg, maybe crust isnt a bad idea to pull

[vapid lake]

mihara will jsut go with crown pull crust is a trap

[swift mango]

SR over a week after Skill reset window.

[tropic summit]

glad to see it worked, that's a lot of gems

[loud sonnet]

Mihara gacha skin makes her look like taihou

[vapid lake]

yes she does look like a cannon because that skin is FIRE

[tropic summit]

can punish with scarlet or emilia

scarlet approach:
scarlet blanc rh centi jackal
scarlet liter trina centi jackal

emilia:
emilia blanc rh centi jackal
noah biscuit emilia rh centi

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind liter helmt
scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
auto (CP pad)

throw in synchro trina and xmaiden, get them ready built (4/4/4, 2OL), get your teams reviewed then

invest in your utilities, especially those i marked in the SS, can get yourself a proper 3rd team then

[wise horizon]

im struggling against T3 (Moran, Noah, Emilia). what can i do? dont have noah/rapunzel

[atomic wolf]

anything do i have do adjust, defense, i'm not removing grave from the cindy team so just tell me which to adjust

[tropic summit]

who's the 3rd linked nikke in that team?

T3

[atomic wolf]

centi?

[tropic summit]

why is it a question, you're unsure?

[atomic wolf]

no i'm just confused, did it not load for you

[tropic summit]

p1 scarlet, p2 jackal, p5 third linked nikke whoever it is in that team

get trina then to p3 and tia to p4

[atomic wolf]

alright

what about the rest?

[tropic summit]

SBS team is somewat ok, cindy team is too slow

[atomic wolf]

anything to fix it

if i cant well i will just leave it as it is

[tropic summit]

you're also overcommited on T3 btw

you can put any flex at all in there, even an attacker as you've only scarlet

[tropic summit]

move trina to p3, liter to p2

if you want extra burst gen you can get jackal to p2 and 3rd linked nikke to p5

[atomic wolf]

now, other two teams?

[tropic summit]

would be better making cindy 2RL

[atomic wolf]

ok so you're saying i put away grave

[tropic summit]

not necessarely

if you wanna ship them together, there's a team you can run

[atomic wolf]

yes

[atomic wolf]

hmm, no noah?

actually come to think about it, that team doesnt need noah

[tropic summit]

well your B2 is grave

if you want noah in there, you won't be bursting with grave

[atomic wolf]

well her only purpose is to exist in the team

doesn't have to burst

[tropic summit]

your noah better have SR5 4OL temperance cube on tho

[atomic wolf]

working on sr5 since i just got her

[tropic summit]

might wanna go with the other then until she's there

[atomic wolf]

fair

also what's with cinderella?

how did she force opponent to skip her position

[tropic summit]

decoy

[atomic wolf]

hmm

[tropic summit]

either way i guess you could go for this

grave centi cind helm rumani
noah biscuit sbs rh -clipSG burst gen-
scarlet flex (non feeder if possible) liter trina jackal

example

[atomic wolf]

clipsg burst gen?

[tropic summit]

bsoda, laplace+, xmaiden, noir etc

any of these

[atomic wolf]

sure

quantum lv7

💀

crap

is it fine if i put tia there

[tropic summit]

not quite enough

[atomic wolf]

let's be real here

is this because of my team

(i forgot to switch cindy to p3)

or its just because their team literally has 4rl

[noble perch]

ik what 4/4/4 is(her skills lvl) but what is 20L ?

[copper creek]

This would still result in your loss.

[atomic wolf]

yeah they have a homeless pvp team

i get it..

[copper creek]

if this is spa, just go whack the other 2 teams

[atomic wolf]

@smoky snow took your position because the demian guy took it

[copper creek]

if theyre running this on spa the other 2 teams most definitely free

[atomic wolf]

i did

[tulip holly]

@tropic summit I got rumani lets gooooo ! Team updates plz ? I won vs this guy with previous teams but not anymore. Team 2 wins

defense teams

units. had to repost due to bot banning so many attachments

defense teams are fine I only get knocked down back by people on the top 6 but maybe they can be upgraded with rumani

tbh I dont think I can snag top 3 position consistently but maybe to ensure I am in top 6

[tropic summit]

can upgrade your def teams to these, when you've invested sufficiently

[tropic summit]

as for these guys your main issue here is CP

you've the cards to beat them though

start by checking if your scarlet has higher atk% (OL included) than your SBS

also let me know your s.anis skill lvls and OLs

[tulip holly]

what is "invested sufficiently"

[tropic summit]

means it doesn't tank your CP

[tropic summit]

meanwhile post screenshot of these teams against the enemy so we can get a clue of your CP standing

RH in T1 can become liter if we don't need RH CP

[tulip holly]

how could I check stats in battle I dont see it

or I have to test with someone like maxwell

also with sbs bursting or it doesnt matter

[tropic summit]

post the screenshot of the two matchups meanwhile, because CP is gonna be the first step anyway

the rest can come afterward

[tulip holly]

no no I mean the atk of scarlet vs bscarlet

[tropic summit]

blabla app or ingame

click on ur character, then just check stats and OL

from blabla app it's even easier anyway

[tulip holly]

scar 234k atk 17,29% bscar 206k. 44.43% scar

yeah I think she loses lol

[tropic summit]

oke that's fine

post the 2 matchups with CP now

you're on the left

[tulip holly]

there's 2 red hoods?

or im supposed to post 1 and then the other just to see bot sepparatelyt

ah nvm you cahnged them

[tropic summit]

i already changed it to liter as with RH you'd get scarlet out of link

#pvp-arena message

so we can use RH in the other team and liter in the first team

for sp arena?

[coarse solstice]

and CA

[smoky snow]

o7 had another hit left so took it back. Thanks for the heads up

[coarse solstice]

SP arena no one is attempting to hit my team except Russ on occasion when he is testing

[atomic wolf]

yeah

[tropic summit]

24% deficit, you gonna need to raise your CP

once you're below 20% deficit that team can still win it

go raise noah, biscuit and centi

[coarse solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-stupid-worth-it-gif-16258628881754106376

[tropic summit]

CA won't see many changes imo, you're already running your ideal lineups

if anything you should consider improving them on investiment wise perhaps

reroll good lines, finish ur dolls

on the other hand with new units coming, it's best you play it safe and wait perhaps

[tulip holly]

biscuit has no ol , easy

[coarse solstice]

Right on, that's what I have been pushing but surface content isn't until q3..... So just gotta pray for good RNG on my dolls until then

[tropic summit]

from the as is, you could consider improving:

rumani, bsoda, bay, jackal, moran, noise, centi

[hushed kelp]

Make the nero moran quiry team

[tropic summit]

those will likely see action regardless

[tropic summit]

yep get those units some love, they gonna be your pvp core units for counters afterall

[coarse solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-super-troopers-gaffigan-gif-26593847

Thats the dream meow

[coarse solstice]

I really want my rookie group to get stronger so I can test properly.... The one's with good teams don't have them raised yet :/

[tulip holly]

@tropic summit go time

Yup deed is done

Like I said I think I can forget of climbing higher

now ill check the def team

[tulip holly]

there's 2 trinas on final teams here lol

[raven plover]

first team supposed to be centi?

[minor pier]

[vagrant ravine]

Anyone know how to counter this team?

[pale knoll]

Scar emilia trina rh jackal

Make sure scar is linked and that should wipe

[vagrant ravine]

the position just like this? let me try out

[pale knoll]

Yep, record if possible

[vagrant ravine]

nice bro

[dim sapphire]

i have try triple taunt on that team with moran included works well too

replace noise

[vagrant ravine]

holy it work

[pale knoll]

Nice

You don't need emilia there, scar is the one nuking

Any other clip rl or thelm is fine as long as it's 2rl

Well, helm burst is gonna go to p5, not sanis directly so she wouldn't work as nuker there

Slower sanis comp should work

With noah and biscuit

[vagrant ravine]

my emilia don't have a doll and OL gear so i swap for helm it work better

[pale knoll]

Yeah that's alright. Do you play in global btw?

Who does bro have

Fair enough

Maybe a fast 2rl rrh indom

Oh nvm biscuit

Without any of those you told me before?

I feel like 2.5rl reit rh b1 should get that team if no other option available

Would need highly invested reit tho

Yeah, preferably an emilia indom with rh b1

Or scar nuke as mentioned before

Yeah, but if anyone else in your bracket don't have them either, it's fine

Noah is generally p1 due to her taunting

And yeah, noah would be on p1 to take advantage of biscuit invul

This team would also get nuked by scar trina rh

Cindy used to be a good option too

But now that her burst doesn't snapshot, noah can eat her nuke even 1rl slower

So she's not as good as she was

Bay works too, just need to keep her cover alive and match speeds

1 sec, let me show you a bay example

#pvp-arena message

Last fight

The one time this helm nuke wouldn't work would be with rosanna on enemy side

Otherwise it will work as long as day's cover is still there. That's why she's usually positioned in p3/p4 as those are safer positions

Helm attacks nearest target to where she's aiming

In this case, she attacks p5 on attack

So she nukes links too, as shown in the video

She doesn't target based on enemy attack

Also, if enemy team is also 2rl as that helm team, b1 happens before b3, so rosanna would nuke helm

It would take an underwhelming rosanna to not kill helm, especially with ele advantage

Yes

Mind you my helm doesn't have attack lines there

Only burst lvl 9 iirc

[quick lake]

She’s okay. Expensive and doesn’t always kill

[pale knoll]

Yeah, been living just fine without building rosanna

[copper creek]

I actuslly dont advise pve/pvx players to build rosanna

[pale knoll]

Easy to combat too

[quick lake]

Rosanna not a must in SPA

[copper creek]

Too expensive for something actually useable and too niche

We have so many new meta units being released at such quick rate

Rosanna is all or nothing

[pale knoll]

On attack you can just tune your team so that she doesn't affect you. Rosanna would be more valuable for CA

And needs really high investment

[copper creek]

Either 4/7/10 and 50% atk on ol and sr15 doll

Or dont

No point to invest her halfway

[quick lake]

Needs at least 40% atk

expensive

[pale knoll]

Yeah, I still remember attacking an enemy with rosanna on spa, and she didn't kill my battery helm

[copper creek]

Yeah it just doesnt work

[copper creek]

Yeah exactly no point unless u full send

[tropic summit]

haha nice, damn... you invested fast to kick into only 18% deficit

[pale knoll]

Thankfully I didn't given how CA is

[obtuse sand]

hi, can someone help me form 3 teams for my arena? thank youuuuuu!!!

[tropic summit]

post your box with nikke ordered by strength

get in line everyone does

go claim the codes btw if you didn't yet

[obtuse sand]

don't have the designated pvp units tho

[copper creek]

Swipe credit card

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[obtuse sand]

thanks, appreciate it!!!

[quick lake]

why u open it

U keep for the memories

[tropic summit]

hmm yeah this is a tough one, you're short on a lot of things... although, throw anis in synchro

naga cind anis bsoda rh
crown sbs xmaiden rouge trina
auto (run any highest CP units left)

wishlist/build asap:

-centi, rumani, noah, jackal
-finish helmT, can get probably a third team up then

[vital turtle]

Can someone help with defense teams for rookie and sp arena?

I was running the following two def setups and it was letting me hold 3rd/4th no issue until this week and now I'm getting dropped to 10th 😭

1

Scarl/Blanc/RH/xMaiden/Jackal
Noah/Biscuit/Rapunzel/xAnis/Lap (Treasure)
Noise/Centi/Cind/Helm (Treasure)/Rumani

2

Scarl/Blanc/RH/xMaiden/Jackal
Noah/Biscuit/Helm (Treasure)/Rapunzel/Lap (Treasure)
Noise/Centi/Cind/Emilia (21% CS)/Rumani

[obtuse sand]

i just hope i get one sparebody to start helm, been unlucky in the normal banner tho

[tropic summit]

hmm those def teams aren't bad, opponent knows what they doing i guess, let's see what else you could run

[upper zephyr]

[tulip holly]

@tropic summit there's still this #pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

let's try with these next

[tropic summit]

T1 isn't trina but centi

[vital turtle]

thank you for your help

[tulip holly]

👍

and also , do I need like literally no cp differencea t all to do the switch or just a bit is nice

[tropic summit]

well you probably know that the best yourself, try to make defs that cannot get CP padded, e.g. multiply your enemy CP score for 0.846 and you can tell minimun CP requirement to not be hit with deficit penality

your defs should not be gapped whenever possible

the idea is to run indom scar and ultra buff cindy

it assumes enemy is running bay or something that reduces damage (moran, nero... the likes), noise + trina will attempt to counter that

def is a lost battle on SP arena, may aswell just get creative and try to screw the attacker

[pale knoll]

You doing the 100 pulls to get 10 back?

[tropic summit]

oh is it live already?

[pale knoll]

The 24th

[tropic summit]

hmmmmmmmm

will think about it

[pale knoll]

Baiting us to not just use mileage

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

the man himself is a king at this point

fascinating how many ppl are gonna buy those skins that go by the craziest prices

[pale knoll]

They better put some of that in better optimisation

[tropic summit]

stellar blade 2

[pale knoll]

[tropic summit]

[pale knoll]

If they made them like AL, I wouldn't complain

Tbh, most of that 60$ is from what comes with getting the skin

[tropic summit]

nah pretty sure ppl should complain

the fact we got "used" to that price concerns me

amazing job from marketing and brainwashing i guess

[pale knoll]

Just don't be a brokie

[tropic summit]

i'm not broke, but i won't give a cent to scams

can keep their skins

[pale knoll]

Jk I know

[tropic summit]

amazing truly what news i read the other day on this

people with low budget control / bad spending habits getting abused by these things

glad i grew up during a time common sense was considered a virtue though

then again, better having ppl spending money on cute 2D waifus than drugs/smoke/alchool

[pale knoll]

[lone sequoia]

all about gacha, nothing about fifa

wait, now is called EA sports fc(?

[pale knoll]

Yes

Fifas also have that gacha system with the cards no?

Never really played them

[lone sequoia]

is worse

[umbral belfry]

so many costumes to buy for half anni

but Alice's is coming again

[shell hazel]

[lone sequoia]

there are expensive and cheap games with gacha system depending if you see the value you get in game or the money you need, the problem is the gambling addiction... fifa is expensive however you look at it

[pale knoll]

You play it?

[shell hazel]

[lone sequoia]

a cousin

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

[lone sequoia]

i think the other problem with these* games is the competitive scene, where to be "good" you have to spend absurd amounts of money just to improve your chances to win and the player skill doesn't matter; something that you can notice in different gacha games, but these are gacha, most people played it for collection purposes or to spend time and you accept that

[pale knoll]

Indeed

I do feel like nikke isn't as bad in terms of competing in SR rankings tbh

Day 1 f2p can get like top 50 SR if they know what they are doing

[lone sequoia]

i'm a day1 player and my rank in solo raid is around 1% (i don't use my resources) and people who started playing 1 year ago are already in top200 in solo raid

[pale knoll]

Yeah, hence what I said

[tulip holly]

@tropic summit halp plz, guy got salty and changed his teams already LMAO , I saw he lost 200k on defense and I got supicious

team 1 is the same but in different order , team 2 is different and team 3 too

idk if I win right now

[bleak shale]

tbf top 50 to top 1 is still a huge hill to climb the bellcurve is real

[lone sequoia]

same cp, just swap teams

[upper zephyr]

[tulip holly]

I won still... if you see the need to change the teams anyways tell me so. Now lets see if he can handle the new defense muahahaha

[pale knoll]

I'm fine with it, can't be expecting to truly be able to compete against leviathans

[swift mango]

You don't even compete, you are just there.