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moran best girl 
Technically everyone's guess although where was my Team 3 screenshot
I refuse to put grave away from cindy comp
Even if I lose top 64
Also I need to get moran and noise
Shit game
I bet XMaiden (or SBS) survived the wipe and nuked Scarlet
I wanted to check if she was dolled but you never sent the screenshots 
I saw exactly that in a match up a few days ago
Yeah its common
Thats why I asked for investment
roll ele dmg, cs in RLs, tempering for p1/p5 or critical units, (2RL cindy is still weak)
If thats my XMaiden she would have died
Even Keripo's non tempered SAnis can survive Cindy and sometimes Scar wipe (with Moran)
Using that as baseline I can guess if a unit should be alive or dead based on similar investments
I sent them all
I didnt see them must be late
THATS 4 HOURS AFTER I ASKED 
assuming Scar dealin non-crit and self buff only right? 
You dont assume 15% crits otherwise ure just playing risky
I had an error on left team dup had to re-send
just got off the phone, congrats @coarse solstice and @lusty gull on winning the inaguarl RNG MEME CHAMPIONSHIP.
No.
speaking of RNG not heard back yet on why I got RNG'ed into 3rd on my bracket still π
all kidding aside, kudos to both
i mean...non tempered SAnis and Cindy C7 seemingly able to withstand selfbuff Scar burst....but i dont think it will stand if got xtra buff from other char...so i just wanna know the baseline 
cuz they know they screwed up with their code and dunno how to compensate you yet
- Invest in Moran.
- Invest in Bay.
- Invest in 5 SGs.
- Invest in Rosanna.
- Do not Treasure Viper Phase 3.
- Invest in SAnis.
- Invest in Biscuit.
main thing I want is them to say they'll fix it tbh, and maybe they could display the results/how they worked them out on the league section
in the end....dats a lot of investment 
Anyone got a spare SAnis? 
that'll never happen. maybe when pigs fly
That's why Moran exists.
no
no
yes
yes
no
yes
yes
Must be Moranless.
Congrats on winning
Moran is one of the best teams for SpA.
oh I'm building my own moran later but I wouldn't recommend the same for others, she requires solid investment and usually unnecessary for most fights
She is necessary but replaceable.
can't recall a single fight where I went "oh, if only I had a built moran"
I do wanna make the moran biscuit meme team though 
You can Moran most teams. You are just less confident than just using Noah.
I think Moran Biscuit SAnis XMaiden is more stable than Drake.
But you will need XMaiden somewhere else usually.
Moran Biscuit SAnis XMaiden Anis is one of the most stable comps.
I can't build more units atm, Siren too soon π
With XMaiden's large HP + tempered + Moran, she will tank everything.
Except double buffed Scar Trina RH.

yea, not the time to be building pvp units with 2.5 anni around the corner
did the frames get distributed?
No, build Moran.
So is CA gonna restart in 5 days or we wait for further info
pog
what about the platinum frame
where to claim gamble frame?
winner only

check challenges
Did Khiren win
BallDrop
no
no
Damn 2nd?
@unique wagon yip yup
mistranslation then, I was right 
Rip
Dammit intern-kun 
gl getting 30 finals wins
Should have been: "Win 1 Champion Arena".
Next season, aiming for unlucky frame
At least I got a good amount of money from this
that's confusing too, just say "win 1 champion arena finals, or win 1 champions' duel"
But I guess the identifier must exist
Anyone got the gamble frames? Or we still waiting on those
Win 1 instance of Champion Arena is best
!
Shoulda went for silver, this looks so ass
Congrats on becoming a victorious whale!
Silver is better 
granted blue is my favorite color
maybe it looks better on Crown

Nah it looks good just not with your character
Thanks 
works great on Rupee Wife 
nvm Crown head tilts the wrong way
It's all about the aesthetics

So I have to NOT be in CA to begin with to get the Gamba Frames
it looks okay with AsukaW
pls sake sike

I want the blue frame
No, u can gamba while in CA
Or u dont get them even if u guess all correctly while participating?
Got all the gamba correct, but no frame for the gamba part
Were you in CA to get that frame?
check the mission tab challenge
I only cheered
it's so doro over
I was in CA, got gamble frame


No mission tabs
Did you forget to cheer for one folian 
Oh

There it is lmao


Frames arena β€οΈ

you have so much red button that you don't click
and now to get up for work 
@terse dragon JP server?
So it gives 20 gems + the frame technically
And now to lose all bets and get another 20
we got gems? I didn't see any 
I didn't even pay attention when I clicked claim 
Collector mindset
You get 200 gems per 10 challenges completed
I thought the more union members qualified for CA the more voucher u can get
Duh
turns out it only give u the highest anyone can reach
stingy SU
yes
I wish I could cook as good as cheer, went against the odds on top 16 cuz I was sure the other guy had better teams
Lol i got trolled so hard π i needed to win the whole championship
Damn insane did u cook urself?
Yes, I cook it myself
Oh thought i could cheat the system
Yeah you gotta cheer all rounds for the cheer frame 

Just cheered once and thought i could cheat the system that way
Oh well. Grats everyone who made it through to CA s1!
How to pass 27-12 
@coarse lake congrats for recovering your money, Rapunzel lived and that Ein won 
What's up with the fake exclamation sign 
i want the frame too
Kyu won?
This season was a disaster wdym
hai
curse broken
4 Champions' groups in SEA, RPS has 2/4 champions
so im happy enough
i mean yeah, its disaster, but we all knew we were going into this making more assumptions than we had information

It literally was all based on that single match
so 50/50 for a final
and it doesnt help that we now know this mode is going to be pure RNG
but ultimately, eh, its okay, you know, just a game, just take our wins and be happy for friends/unionmates
I hope it changes for the better or I'm not touching pvp at all tbh
Just full pve investment
I'm already easy top2 and top 6 with my accs
idk man, i've quit the game already

i just came back for black snake SR and to see how this would go down
but yeah ultimately this is just a game, no need to tilt over it imo lol
if im not having fun i just go do something else π
SCREW YOU
I JUST LOST 560K
of real life money or...?
had to sell my grandma's car for htis
That's fair. I still like it a lot, so I'm not gonna leave
no in game
ok then it doesnt matter lol
IT MATTERS TO ME
i got only this frame
oh yeah for sure, im glad you're having fun still man
for all the grief we give nikke it really does a lot right
stellar sound design, gameplay and art is decent as well
Yeah, if only they were more proactive in making the right changes it would be so much better
SU put different frame for low and high quailty setting π
But I'll probably stay until eos whatever happens
cosmograph + story is what keeps me invested, and ofc now pvp
Agent Eon in another dimension where Secret wins:

we tried to give a lot of good feedback on man, we really did
ultimately i wish more was communicated to me about a lot of things that we talked to the community team about
Yes, it's on patch notes 
but eh its all gucci
Rroar u win?
no I get fu*ked early
I see that you're a man of culture 
I changed to pve from pvp a long time ago
Same 
you went pve route too bro?
wtf
why all the old pvp bros all pve now 
@umbral belfryrank?
in? SP?
no, Ca
im 113 too
As much as Alice has carried me I should have more than her feet on my banner

if i make it to the top everyone will be able to see it and my wish fulfilled
why only the feet π
Because stepping on Biscuit meme lmao

at one point you couldnt even say cocktail in this server
think i tripped it so much they had to unban that word for me 
my lord if you edge... you'll g00n...

Oh damn, just realised u get ranked in CA 
5d 9h until the next season lmao
I'll be interested to see how they rank in subsequent seasons will it be season by season or all seasons together.
That'd be cool. What would each rank be valued at?..... Could make for weird situations.
my name immortalised 
Also shows how many champs per server so you know the actual pool of players
So 7 total pools of 256 players for NA
Congrats on ranking 1st 
woah! thanks for the info
SEA just 4 
Do we know the winners of other servers?
global
I got an updated reply from shify up about my issue, and.... || they just said there isn't any other info yet lmao ||
would be interesting to compile info on the top teams but I suspect the next season will have people changing up what they do
nobody cooked alice pvp?
well it's just like Arks ranking, first to reach x wins/position ranks higher
wait its showing UTC+7 for me but -4 for you
imagine if a bot won π
even if you don't win season 2, you'll rank higher than the person that won season 2 but lost season 1
not much different from clearing a tower floor earlier than someone else
ah nice so RNG on being kicked out early may just give me a permanent rank debuff then π
I mean you can pass them, you just need to win more championships 
looks like an alice cook got to win finals
#pvp-arena message
#pvp-arena message
still not recommend, can easily get countered with all the tanky p1 or indoms
you gotta have good RNG overall 
Blood has skills to back up his opinion, i'd say he'd have a good reasoning behind it
keep in mind noone got le crystal ball anyway
Railtracer I demand team cooks that mean I can never lose 
i don't see lacking emi as detrimental as you think, there's plenty no-brainer teams even without her 
time to main pvp 
congrats, glad it worked up until the end 
your investiments rewarded you
cook for me next
No trina no emi no sanis no helmT no clip sg 
Need compile CA teams of top 8/16 across different leagues 
Ok maybe neon
you're plenty knowledgable on your own sir 
I think thats just excuses rn
seems like great fun 
my strat for next one might just be 3 good teams, 1 OK team, 1 throwaway this is gonna lose team π
Lemme get helmT first 
Need to do the lost sector that traumatized me ti get 2lb helm
might aswell tell me what colour you want your dragon instead, seems easier to do
Send yesterday match result 
I sented it π
I'll find it hold on good sir
sent is already past tense
i'll be the champion if i am knowledgeable enough for cooking a team
I didn't @ everyone didn't want to spam notifications
that's not how it works cuz only 1 of my 10 CA cooks got to final anyway 
you need good RNG and luck the most 
my result was def sus, not that I expected to take 1st spot
ye that was downright bugged though
but think SU screwed me over π
rigged from the start 
yeah
you can increase your cook success rate if you cook for me
Ca sucks
Who agrees
I hope the next CA shuffles the ppl. I dont wanna face the same ppl again 
I think the matches take too long to resolve
one day per match could def go a bit quicker
if anything, too many things out of your control... should probably take it as some sort of no-brain gameplay
That means you wait longer for next season
between season gap is longer yes
but it's more interesting than always waiting a day between the fights
gotta give that guy living in the middle of the Pacific ocean and works 22 hours a day time to log in and bet though

will they increase to 10ch for qualifier?
I don't think there's that much space taken by bots
But then cherr windows shorter
maybe up to ch6
they need to round robin the bots more
Would be funny if a bot gets to top 4
stop whole bot groups π
1 day is enough for entire thing 
Maybe i should join ca with the goal of giving others free wins
from league to champion 
it it but people still need time to bet
the betting thing means they need to elongate it no matter what
No, troll others by removing cube and everything on your Nikkes and enter bare.
put the R nikkes in a team
Play with 3rl team but they assume 2rl cuz quantum 
I suggest making color coded teams. One team with blue hair, one with yellow, one with red.
tries using rh
Do we even have 5 units with red hair 
The anticipation was part of the fun for this first one. For sure should be sped up moving forward. But SU servers would likely crash from over work and make more errors
Normal rapi aint red
And those arent 5 
Mast, MastMaid, I guess Asuka is orange and a bit reddy, Volume
Volume is red
Masts are pink 
I would consider Cocoa red too
Thats pink
@tropic summit I'm gonna try to cook 5 teams sometime before CA, would you mind checking them to see if there's any improvements to be had?
Nihilister is 100% red
PINK IS LIGHT RED
damn it's official we need more proper red hair

I said red not light red 
sure thing hime, get cookin' π
Now I have to decide if I'm going to run it back or change things .... π Gotta practice some how
Cocoa is pink tho
I gotta grind out my cooking levels to level up to intermediate chef. now that I know there's no cp gap it'll be so much easier
just put a rgb hex picker to cocoa's hair
get your Scarlet ready π
THATS MORE RED THAN IT IS PINK


not just scar, but 
the teams you ran were very well balanced 
finally the day to use my max alice b3 for attack has come
IT'S RED BECAUSE COCOA IS MODELED AFTER TOMATO
HER SKILL IS LITERALLY PROFESSIONAL TOMATO SAUCE
perfectly balanced
just put a rgb hex picker to it
Cant on phone hard
Sbs is closer to red than her 
But you cant do that cus color theory matters
Right, I know that some people have said that 3 strong teams might be better than 5 balanced. This did get me there though... Maybe it's better just to focus on investing well for now.
And i still see pink
Cocoa looks pinkish because her design is covered in a pinkish tinge/soft light. Remove that tinge and she becomes red.
yeah it makes sense to focus on 3 teams... but ppl forget it only takes 1 counter to deny entirely a team... e.g. scarlet or SG teams
why are u on your phone and hard? perv
Agree to disagree 
He forgot a comma 
busted in 4K @unique wagon 
COCOA IS 100% RED BRO TRUST
he probably busted too as we speaking 
That's true. Bad RNG is the real boogie man.
that's gonna need some aloe vera
The real question:
Do you prefer it pink or red? 
Ca - rng = ||we are sorry to announce that champion arena will be delayed till next year||
red hair is good, pink hair is decent π€
That's what got me 
that depends on what you're asking...
We trying to find 5 red hair nikke that aside 
I prefer pink
Cocoa looking like an impostor
I guess you could stay with your team until you lose? It did pretty good after all. but your call ofc
~~who said I was talking about hair
~~
girls with pink hair are great but i want to spank rail until he's red
so the answer is tricky
ah yes, a fine gentleman 


Goodbye i wont return at this rate
all the pink haired ones are yanderes
some people are into that...
"i can fix her, until she kills me"

"ok she can't be fixed"
At least it would give me a bigger data set to work with. I'll start a sheet and leave it for a few seasons
Multiple CA teams 
if u run that in ca and win i would actually be very impressed
The super diff blue tone on mpriv is throwing me off 
don't think even keripo would have invested enough hair co-ordinated units to go that far
oh dw whatever ur invest is its not gonna work π€£
mind you I'd also love to see it π
not to ruin your party... but cocoa hair colour isn't red
it's between pale purple and light purple
Oh u actually put rgb picker to it
send the inquisition
send in the knights templar
Sbs considered red?
Done.
wut where 
now run it 
cocoa 
Hair 
Now tell me if Cocoa looks more pink or red from this pic
Imposters :
Cocoa
Maid priv
Admi
we need to log a feedback item, one more red haired character to replace Cocoa at least
change cocoa to mast
that's... not red 
Thats dark pink
ITS REEEEED
Mast is pink too 
bruh dark pink is at least a better shout than purple
What about actually red

HOW IS COCOA PURPLE U TROLLING
Just put kisenix p5 itll look better
dont ask me they put a rgb colour picker to it and its actually purple
never noticed what color hair mast had....always distracted by other things
how? u want to spank until red???
Bro her hair has multiple colors u just pick the worst one. Also color theory matters.
No
He have red name
Bro 
must is cherry red



Thats not CHERRY RED SIR
Munch is out of control
? tf did i do
That still look pink
maybe colours are subjective afterall 
not crimson?
Why don't we ask the designer himself im sure Cocoa is light red with slight pink hue but its still mostly red
i'm a bit colour blind it doesn't help π
thats easy, just take a shot and repeat til u see colours
understood commander 
no no no dont actually do it thats not how it works
Also I cant find replacement for Admi
if u want an excuse to drink however, come join us during anniversary livestream
Og anchor insteal of mpriv then mpriv instead of admi?
Nvm

Does ruby red look red to you
Looks like indian red to me
Its def cherry red but
i'm just posting all of them with overlay 
sorry my attention is not on her hair rn
But 2 anchors no good
absolutely
it's that little skull on the collar
If goal is good team why we doin this 
I thought we matching hair
Also we need cocoa replacement
still someone sus in the red line 
COCOA IS REEEEEDDDD
almost like she belongs in the pink line 
SHE IS NOT PINK LET ME PROOF
Belongs in neither tbh 
probably 
yeah that looks perf- 
She literally belongs in neither
she looks better in pink than in red i'll give u that much
SHE IS MORE RED THAN PINK SHUT UPPPPP
You are colorblind sir
here's your red hair 

Retro, Blood is ahead of us 
This is becoming more proven by the message
Explain
the true dispatch rerolling man
@fathom rock
This is true but ITS RED BECAUSE SHE IS DESIGNED AFTER TOMATO, HER STORIES AND BONDS ARE ALL TOMATO, HER ANIMATION IS TOMATO, HER SKILL IS PROFESSIONAL TOMATO SAUCE!!!
I can pop cases to 401 after campaign update so no
And you can jump to 421 or so
sir your caps lock broke 
she is red
but because the mission she didn't taking a bath for 1 year
all tbis color coding makes me want some skittles
I cleared that with crown alice rh b1 helmT naga iirc

oh that sounds good 


ok look
look at those
Hey anyone around to help me build some PvP teams? I haven't really done too much for PvP other than look at some tier lists of who's good and just kinda threw together some teams, and that worked for a while. That worked for a while but now it's starting to feel like I actually need a bit more strategy than just "put all the top tier units together"
Also how am i still ahead in campaign vs yall 

uh taking a look 
so I guess he was just trolling and ragebaiting the day I met him here
That trina is crying for help
I can try cook
My league's top 8 if anyone interested
Winner has 25% CS Helm, like srsly 
cooking
tbf, I mostly invest for hard mode and raids, so a lot of the newer units are pretty bare bones. Also been trying to save 2.5
holy moly how are these on line 5 
what's scarlet and cindy invest?
This ss is starting to hurt my eyes
Oh I should've mentioned that these are sorted by limit break, my b
that's... better 
Sort by power 
oh oke, can you repost with nikke ordered by power?
Rail you push yet?
Lost my last cheer to a blanc/ein mirror match coinflip 
I can, just gonna take a moment scine I edited the first image lol
i slack, waiting on le cp boost
should be within 2 weeks ye?
27-21 at 619k isnt pleasant
Its just 2 farter rng + kamikaze
ok here we go
yeah not motivating enough 
Hey if you push you get to see me in the all clears leaderboard 
40%+ deficit
exactly this is red
whatever cocoa is it barely qualifies as red imo
Even sbs looks more red than cocoa 
you are correct but not for the reason u expect
that is indeed pomegranate and cranberry
in the glass π€£

It's salmon
oh that seems close enough


By Power
let's see
SR cooks? 
CA
I dare you enter with these

Whichever of the first 2 cus Cocoa disagreement
Damn youve saved enough cases to jump that many levels?
Probably actually in 390 range but like yeah i have a decent bit
Waiting for new chapters thats all
Im still behind cant fix that
I just level as i go so you arent really that far behind me
You figured out 27-21 hell?

I mean if you s7 why would that matter 
I only s7 kraken, i dont think i could do it for any others
Improved T3 color matching
the other bosses for that have a higher threshold for getting to stage 7 compared to Kraken tbf
Rossana
Noise
And now i noticed milk being more grey
THATS CALLED LIGHTING DUH
We have got to have more better looking hair for this 
Mah ngl this is still better
I can help 
Only boss i cant s7 is harvester due to fps and invest
There is no downfall
scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
grave centi cind helm liter
noah biscuit rrh s.anis emilia
cubes
quantum on jackal
vigor on blanc, biscuit
resil on s.anis, s.anis must be burst lvl 9 minimun
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube
notes:
-raise CP on trina, rumani, noise, rapunzel, emilia
-ensure scarlet atk% OL is higher than laplace and noir
-can aim for the teams in the right table for better speed in terms of bursting
get your teams reviewed once the above are set up
I'll give that a try, thank you! 

I wonder is rapunzel is jackal linked 
T3 looks like itll explode
emi needs time to get going, either you indom her or she needs to be behind noah
pick a different B3 for T3
if anything emi cannot be your main B3 in there
keep in mind scarlet team does not need to be a natural 2RL
you can get there with feed
on an hypothetical setting, you could push your limits with these
uh let's see
yeah you'd need her invested, hence hypothetical
i'd go for these
Need to reset rapipi and Ssakura
CA in 5 days i think? 
btw I saw you on TV
We will never recover
Imagine me, now i really get that shiny frame
You only get it in champ duel
Yeah, more incentive to win 
I have to lose all of my bets next season ..... I want that silver gamblin frame

Need to flex a pvp frame at least
T1: leaning on bad (too much feed, liter + blanc, you'll lose mirror matches)
T2: ok
T3: average (3RL cindy is very bad)
To to live the besti dream having al those frames
then that's the best for whatever you had 
i can give you my opinion on what i'd run sure
@tropic summit did u get in group 64?
the main effort in those arrangements is to find the right balance between:
-low feed
-survive to burst
-ideally have lethal damage, or enable lethal damage (indom emi, indom sbs, indom s.anis etc)
-CP
nope lost straight away, shot myself in the foot by running 1 CP pad team and getting my scarlet hard countered also losing 1v1 cindy 
Yeah lol the rule wasn't clear
We are better prepared for CA now 
I didn't even use anis
you can watch what made me lose
man I was so close to running a cp pad team. pretty sure I flipped a coin for that decision as well. CA truly RNG 
well the good thing is that we'll have plenty of CA coming unless they somehow decide to trash it
statistically, you're bound to get decently far in one of those, at some point, just straight out of RNG
Same. My sbs team is countered by biscuit
Scar is countered by noah. Truly a tragedy
oof rip
How will ppl counter SG in pvp as attacker then π€
cindy p5 + tanky p1
defender p1 and p5 with biscuit
jackal team with p1 and p5 linked
essentially, you want your corners locked
Also sg vs sg
This is exactly how it played out and the entire championship hinged on mirror team eins getting the first drone attack on identical blanc teams
is the uncapped synch leage next for champ arena?
U need to prepare for 5 teams. And the best way to counter a nuke: become the nuke
a tanky p1 example, although if this side was on defense instead it might've turned quite differently (they'd broke through)
Or gettin your first burst in that can tank the damage. Like Moran.
Nero sound effects 
don't think i've seen any
It is weird that nero is used but not diesel
S.anis will kill herself by hitting scarlet
you don't run SGs against scarlet
just run xmaiden (link nuker) or cindy (as long as you get to burst you're fine)
xmaiden was the pre helmT
they both nuke hard on linked nikke
she also gets buffed by jackal if you wanna run her linked
Diesel needs to burst though. The real counter is Emma 
ye you can remove one of those and add buffer/flex
god that goes back all the way to the first months of arena, the ol emma+jackal 
Nah emma is countered by SG. She is melted quickly
4/4/4 4OL with R15 or SR5 probably still does enough
obviously you'll want her 4/4/7 though
keep in mind that diesel gets eaten by scarlet
while you may protect yourself from SG, you're gonna make another beast instead
No but I can guarantee that she is immortal during burst.
Your teammates get nuked tho
Cinderella SBS S.Anis...
well obviously 
just solo tank most likely
she doesn't really need any other supports to function
just needs a fast team
eating RH B3 
although once her burst runs out she's vulnerable
that's diesel on helmT + noise + her own burst
ye she needs to hit burst to get going
unlike moran, she's vulnerable until then
SG rush might melt her
Diesel doesn't need noise or helm to stall in burst
I read that as vin diesel for a sec there π


only BOOM had a diesel team but really slow and a bit expensive (biscuit, rapu)
I'm sure that's VD....
but could be actually any famous bald actor ...
you were right 
Champion Arena S1 Finals
https://youtu.be/FPjVeI6grT4
Here's the final matchup that concluded my server's tournament of the Champions Duel of Champion Arena Beta Season 1 on NA. The matchup orderings were heavily in Zeus' favor, with me predicting a 5-0 sweep but it turning out to be a 4-1 win instead. Season 2 starts in 5 days and it'll be interesting to see what interesting teams we'll see next t...
I actually forgot that it was this fight where I wondered if Rosanna dispel could result in killing Scarlet. Time to check the Finals replay
Though by now everyone knows it was Zeus who won 4-1 somehow
yeah it's him
don't ask me why i have the
emote

@lunar dirge no more betting for over 5 days, boring 
these 5 days could've been used for losing brackets or something
Nice
So you did bet house
I just wanna know if you have 2 houses now
Looks like Rosanna simply died fast
Didnβt even get to use her B1
So I suppose the better chefs knew that Rosanna needs to be part of the Scarlet Jackal link if she wants to endure the counterattacks from enemy Scarlet
CA fan 
extra potential source of income, something to do in between 
The most active the channel has ever been 
I wish it were that easy
, made too many losses to keep a 2nd house, had to sell it to pay back the losses 
I won 5/6 cheers
The 1 off was from betting on myself 
it's part of the process, lose some, learn, win some, earn back
Si
Though I think I forgot to switch my Realsav cheer, if I picked him
Whereβs the cheer log hiding at?
Yeah but at the end of it, it seems like what I learned is not to trust myself 
if biscuit got scar wipe
and you have like defender on p1 p2 p3
and biscuit is in p4 p5
is it always p1 p2 getting invul?
Iβm curious to know that too
but if damage from scar wipe is enough to kill you just insta died? before getting <50% hp for biscuit invul?
zeus lost the rosanna fight
the 1 fight everyone was telling me zeus would win 
blood even went out of his way to throw numbers at me to tell me how I was wrong

shame I only saw keripo's cheer by the time the fight was still ongoing and didn't have time to change my cheer
Yea, Rosanna died brutally fast
Iβm trying to find their Cheer log and canβt. Did it disappear? 
Guys Iβve read like all the available guides but are there any other resources to really understand PvP arena? Like, what teams to make/when to switch them around to beat someoneβs comp, what the interactions are etc etc
you can usually drop your current comps here + entire roster, and ask for help, whether it is for defense, or when trying to attack someone in particular
i got rosanna to 7/10/9 so far, should i add her into my sp def? im not able to hold 3-6 anymore π₯²
but for your own future reference, I do recommend using the pvp burst gen calculator, so you know how fast each team will fill their gauge
It also seems that I forgot about Trinaβs 2 sec invuln for Scarlet. Thatβs literally a free ride to 2RL
And, either Rosanna failed to dispel the invuln, or it canβt be dispelled
Because, Realsavβs Scarlet stays immune until just before the 2RL bursting began
wondering what to use here
Hereβs how it looked right after Realsavβs Red Hood B1 bursted
Rosanna shortly after explodes 
Oh wow
Rosanna actually lived barely long enough and bursted but failed to kill Scarlet and Red Hood. But I think almost did because all three (Scarlet, Red Hood, and Jackal) dramatically dropped in health to 20% or so
The trio were still linked
Rosanna failed to dispel the link
yea I think trina slaps like 2-3 buffs on scarlet?
β¦ and being left of Jackal, her buffs are prioritized. Start of battle buffs right?
max hp + invul
But that doesnβt explain Red Hood remaining linked
and jackal gives 2 buffs as well, def and link
which meme team?
You can see here the purple explosions from Rosanna B1 nuke
never really paid attention to rosanna interaction with a trina team
I guess her S1 wasnβt invested to lvl10
does her dispel fail if her attacks don't count as having landed?
If it was S1 lvl10 or w/e for 5 dispels sheβd have gotten the links, maybe?
I mean, even at lvl 4 it dispels 3 buffs iirc
so it would either dispel the invul or the link, or both
but again, Idk if scar being invul when she starts shooting makes it so her dispel doesn't count?
keripo, tell us 
I wish there was gfx for Rosanna dispel. Is there?

Wait, I think I see it.
the light at the end of the tunnel?
Scarlet inexplicably recovers health. Itβs actually the Max Hp Without Restoring that got dispelled
dispel 5 is at lv7
dunno if dispel 3 is enough to clear Trina Jackal
it's only enough if it's solo Trina or solo Jackal
So the dispel did land but⦠failed to unlink Scarlet. GG
And it does land even while invulnerable, and I think it removed invulnerable. Scarlet takes damage after this
Though it was also just about 2 seconds into battle too
Still, the precise coincidences has me believing it was dispelled too
But if so, what else got in the way of dispelling the link?
I'm not sure of the wind-up MG speed
Go try it out yourself to find out 
the 2s go fast though, so it's whatever?
but in theory, you can dispel Scarlet 1 stack, Trina invuln + Trina Max HP without dispelling Jackal link
if MG wind up is slower than 10 slash Scarlet
I don't know if that's actually how it ended up though
doesn't rosanna shoot 10 bullets faster than scarlet 10 attacks? even without heated mg
Whatβs dispel priority then, why would Scarlet stack be counted if it requires 10 hits from Scarlet?
Surely itβd be placed after Jackal link, not before, in order?
could be RNG, could be newest to oldest
its random I think from past testing, you can search through my msg history
or could've just gotten trolled and it was lv1 Ros skill 1 and only the Trina max HP got dispelled, the invuln wore off naturally 
entirely rng
can we only see the burst bar from the attacker in these replays? like, if I watch the replay of the defender instead of the attacker, the point of view wouldn't change I think, but would I see the gauge of the defender then or?
RNG dispel? Wtf. If so thatβs horrible
Would mean Zeus got unlucky as far as dispelling Scarlet and Red Hood links go
Idk if itβd have mattered though, but still
either entirely random or there is some rhyme or reason to it that neither the CN guys nor us here have figured out yet.
you mean lucky
regardless, I did say that rosanna was unbuilt, my anis was better built than zeus rosanna
Oops had the players flipped
I guess you only see the burst meter of the attacking team
how many ppl do u guys see on ur CA ranking screen
I had predicted a 5-0 or 4-1 sweep for Zeus. The team matchup RNG was just way too heavily in his favour
that's one thing they gotta improve for s2
his basic team ideas were right though, they were just not optimally put together
Do they show only 4 CA finalists/winners in ur leaderboards
yea, shame you stated that way too late for me 
there's quite a bit in mine, i think over 8-9
u see 9 CA winners on ur leaderboard?
shame we can only see up to top 16 leaderboard, would've been funny to see some bots at top 64 or top 32
there's no way SEA playerbase is this small????
maybe i got ur question wrong tho
only 4 LMOA
7 NA
no way SEA only has 256 x 4 active pvp players
@coarse solstice you're on TV 

top 3% solo raid pain 
top 0.5% is so hard to get too
it should be 1 league bracket per 10k players or something
since each league is 64 SPA groups
256 groups x however many players in each spa group = playerbase number
Well, if CA season 2 begins immediately after this SPA
@spiral onyx You have about 5 days and 5 hours to plan new teams if you didnβt already 
is not if, CA is in 5 days


I want to ask for a little help. I'm trying to advance in my special arena rankings, but I'm getting stuck on SBS teams. Are there any good nikke counter picks for SBS?
Is going to be harder to break out of Groups this time. I was lucky.
What do I do to be lucky again?
be lucky
post the team
are you checking the enemy's RL?
depends on matchup and speed and what you can actually run, show enemy lineup fully
on a very general idea, you want a p1 taunter + biscuit to deny her damage, else a sakura although very niche choice
That's a new term for me.
Give me a minute, I'll pull up the team I'm having trouble with in game
So what are the most important cubes for CA? The ones that should go well beyond lvl7 if possible, but which are they?
I'm currently on Cook 8 lol... Started on day 2 the moment we confirmed CA rules
quantum 7
vigor 7+
temperance 7+
resil 7+
bastion 7+
adjutant 7+
tempura as many slots as possible 
Iβd categorize Resilience, Bastion, and Adjutant as PvE cubes that found a dual purpose (the second purpose being, viable in PvP)
RL is the term used to how fast your team reaches full burst gauge, the lower the RL, the faster you're reaching it
Quantum, Vigor, Temperance would be PvP dedicated cubes. With plausible dual purpose of viability in PvE (Temperance to keep Mari alive, etc)
Charge speed, burst gen, hp, damage reduction, ammo refund, and reloading in that order probably.
Maybe we should call it RLT because weβre using it as Time
quantum, tempering, vigor, resilience
bastion works too for dps
charge speed only if you need that extra bit to reach 17% CS, else it's a deadweight
17% is special?
you can fire 3 shots within 2RL time iirc
Not deadweight for Laplace, Emilia, Helm, etc. It's both burst gen and DPS.
So that shortens 3RL to 2RL for certain teams then?
And other teams from 3RL to 2.5RL?
more like 0.5RL faster usually
on emi 21%
on other batteries 17%
it helps you hit 2.5RL on certain lineups
but not something worth going for tbh, unless you're hellbent on good CA placements
can get rumani + centi on 17% tbh, that's enough to get 2 teams to 2.5RL
we've been getting hit with too many good units lately that barely anyone can afford rocks to reroll on pvp only units



the sacc should be in P5
should punish that with either noah stall or scarlet + jackal
that team shouldn't reach 2.5RL, think it's stuck at 3RL, gotta check though
but yea, scar and jackal would eat it
his main issue there is just CP anyway
Ok, so i should swap out rosanna for Jackal?
anis for jackal
you're on 20% deficit, you gonna get hit with stat penality
although a scar jack on 2RL may live
and check cp then
no noah / lapT / rapunzel / biscuit?
post ur box @zenith wolf so we can get a clue what you can run

@tropic summit 
a wild triple
Taking my team and nikkes,it is
I have Noah, but in another team fighting his other scarlet. Here's what my teams look like.
I'll be honest, this is my first time asking for advice when i usually play by feel
take jackal away from that team and move it into scarlet
at this point you attacking sp can post enemy team for us to choose 2 team to hit too
(and check cp + RL)
you gonna need a trina + liter or blanc + RH to nuke on 20% deficit
Though i can win (its 3/5/7 ranks) i always get to 3rd place but then i get beaten and drop down to 7th place again,maybe i should do new defenses?
you're not supposed to win on defense against equal invest opponents, good luck with that tho, maybe you can get a few defenses in 
And especially not when you donβt have a confident idea of what theyβre attacking you with. Someone with 200k defense could be using a 300k attack team 
Or simply using characters you canβt counter unless you fully expected them to be used
Dang,though its a good thing that i can win upto third rank π
ye definitely, you've had a very good positive growth
i need some assistance beefing up my arena team again. its been a month, so figured id ask about...
these are my current teams
Uh, you want to see the other teams?
yeah of enemy teams
start by moving xmaiden to p2 and trina to p3
I wish there was a feature like that
also need your box to see what you can replace/improve
These are the other two
oh other 2 teams are well within range 
noise taunt middle can get free RL gen
that scarlet is very free win
this work?
go to lobby, click on nikke, post from there instead (nikke here are already selected and filtered)
go to lobby, click on nikke, post it from there instead, we need your first 4-5 lines
your enemy teams speed will look like this
CP:
1.13m
984k
981k
its better than posting 3 screenshots
I have 33k gems,20 advanced pulls and 300 mileage,am i ready for siren?
can use sanis stall vs cindy, and just cindy nuke his scar team
Yes. Because no matter what, you are guaranteed 1 copy of Siren with 200 gold mileage. Much better than the desperate doros that donβt have either the pulls or the gold mileage 
Im thinking of mlb depending on wheter there will be other units,summer units comeback,collab and anne rerun . Looking now maybe i should just go with one copy lol
You also have enough for 400 gold mileage, which guards against ShiftUp running two special banners
Hope this is fine
i can't tell your investiment at all via these screenshots... w/e
naga centi cind helm noise
scarlet xmaiden noir trina jackal
noah biscuit sbs rh drake
ye this is fine thank you
does investment matter?
investment always matters 
i guess it does if youre talking about thelm vs helm but they still show strongest vs weakest
doing ninja things
use this scar blanc team to hit their team 3?
and noah biscuit team to hit their team 2?
check cp first but I think should be fine 
Does Rosanna buff apply to base attack or after all the burst buffs?
Okay, here I go
Kudos for the tips fellow commanders
So begins my rise back into the top ten

For 1 hour
Geography is fate bro,i want to buy gacha skins too but our economy is so damn bad,i just see a imam(same as priest but on islam) in instagram that talks abut "we should drink all of our tea on our cup before re filling it ,if not it causes poverty". What did i do to get lived in the same society as people that believes in this π¦
i want some tea now
If i assume you use us dolar you can get 1kg of it for 6 bucks
Idk how much is in on us tho
Me that emptied the remaining half cup of tea because it had gone cold 
Sometimes I'll get to stay top ten for a whole 4 hours
It's okay. I still within expectations.
gl next time
you did well 
no CA for me in the near future
Okay you will be fine. My luck ended here. 
You will have your luck soon.
too many whales in your spa?
yep
Thats just ur coping mechanism talking

i had trouble against this team yesterday. would this work? @tropic summit
winnable?
not enough time for me to raise a moran or rossana for the next ca. 
need some skill resets
and doll kits
rosanna is expensive
- first you want +50%atk (4 atk lines) and 1 ammo
- then at least 2 ele damage
- 4 crit and 2 ammo

let's see what SU learns from this season of CA
Will they make any good changes or do jack shit like with UR hard mode
next CA is in 5 days, the "beta" was never a beta
Nowadays a "beta" is basically the final product already
i don't see any big changes being made
i don't see anything that needs changing though, except maybe the shop
CA early access
Shop
matching
cheer UI being so bad that people have to paste 10 images into paint just to compare teams, this is a big one
bugs with rankings
horrible "cinematic" camera that makes it hard to see whats going on when u are trying to analyze a fight, this needs a toggle on/off
And prolly many more things that ppl like keripo and snake pointed out in the feedback thread
Kinda lost the scarlet match to bad counter rate making team slower and fail the 50/50 Crit gacha. My luck ended there.
My teams could be much better if I didn't make them evenly on CP lol. Replacing Drake with LapT and it would have been easy win. 
DKW also bricked on buffing anything because Scarlet taunted by Noise
His ASS was much stronger than my ASS. Noah having no invulnerable at the end and it's settled
I don't think I really changed/built anyone in the gap between this CA and the last one
but saving some stuff for Siren
??
got like 25 rocks, most I've ever had at once π
I have Miranda built.
Emi will burst 
Miranda T?
That's the first match.
the emi crit team
I didn't spot any Miranda T's in the wild
no i'm actually being honest, emi is the last of the issues in CA
what is that team?
good buffer, but people only use RH for that spot
uh what do you mean? you got to finals that's a pretty good result no? 
Noah+Biscuit+HelmT+RH 2rl life steal. 
if I was building another treasure unit after Helm it would prob be Laplace or Drake
I guess exactly 3rl can catch exactly 2rl burst 3.
Miranda way down my list π
a speed check team
you can do better next week
trust the process
but
Vs 3rl Blanc+Ass. They are slower and my Noah lost Invulnerable 4sec before Blanc ended. It's settled there.
and believe in RNG not matching you against the counters 


yeah
Yeah, my scarlet failed the Crit gacha. Is fine. 
was peak CA
silly you running only 50% crit rate scarlet
scar faced bay, ein faced bunny soda
solid 10/10 lottery

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