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Alice is a fairy tale NAME But not pilgrim weird
give RH
She kinda is, even has a fairy tale name 

u will get RH this 2.5Anniv. I believe

Trust 
lets trust
Ngl they should add a pilgrim selector for 3rd anni or sth
21k gems and a dream
100 pulls 4RH From free pulls but afterwards, LUCK GOES DOWNHILL ON ANIV
before doing a bad financial decision on ordinary banner
oh good point....
My 2nd anni pulls sucked so much, but my new years pulls were insane
well she is the og non-pilgrim dps that does pilgrim-lvls of dps
I made a decision NO PULLS FROM Ordinary SKIP Normal pulls UNLESS Meta then GATHER GEMS FOR Pilgrims and Meta only
you'll prob not get them anyway
then When 1k+ NOMAL PULLS OR SOMETHING Boom all others skipped I can get MUEHEHEHEH
just gamble 
tbh with how we're already covered for pve, and with the CA fiasco, safe to say you can skip all ordinary and wishlist later
Ya
Make SU CEO rise to top 10 networth in Korea by gamba on nikke 
CEO rich, dont care about the game anymore 
Im ready to reset skills for liter modernia and naga to buff pvp units for next CA
I mean who does 4x Banner man = SHIFT UP: You called Sir?
Need them skill mats
Naga is too meta for PVE bruh more on CAMPAIGN Pushing
I still would have no rouge if I didn't use all my pulls back then, new year selector was used on 1st bunny soda 
Dont need her anymore, just survive with thelm
not sure why you would go so far for an rng fest
Used it on Rouge I just know that 4th and 5th Team will eventually COME AND Powercrept shotgun meta AGAIN
does half anni give skill resets? 
We hope
just save up skill mats then use them on ca units
tHEY MOSTLY yes

not like the rewards you get will change if you reset and invest now
So starved for skill mats and doll mats
C.A rewards is IFFY
iffy? the main reward can be gotten if you go in with 5x no invest units

liter can help in pvp
if you want to chase frame, 1 win is enough really, in the long term you can farm for twinklies on that frame if you want, but is that really worth it at the cost of actual rewards from other content?
I cant compete in raid, arena is all ive got
you compete in raid, you gamble in ca
also raid is not that hard to compete in, if you invest smart
C.A with little to no rewards SADLY WE SUCKERS FOR PVP that's why WE On this pvp-arena THREAD
its the hope, imma reset crown

More gamba in my gacha game
used my selector on rumani 
my main issue with investing for ca is how little of that invest translates to results, bc it is so heavily rng
crown 4-4-4 for the win
Reading this feels so cursed 
i used my selector on tia and then got crown not that long after 
we have received your feedback, next season we will introduce 54 new frames
Suffering from success 
Raid rankers just feel so far out of reach ._.
i was about to reset her 6 months ago but now with CA happening, its a must
REAL Pvp currently is SP Arena if your same level with brackets few higher or lower THEN TRUE PVP IS Hard Campaign Pushing
is what gave me like 40 level gaps Others just lazy in pushing
let's be honest, it doesn't matter how far you push campaign, if you open wallet it's very cheap to make up campaign progress you lost by being casual
Yea but not all Throw wallets at problems
I got 3 Whales on my bracket

I'm gonna be at the very least 3RD
F2p strats for resource management is fun
And because of HC pushing like 40% deficit or higher I got level gaps vs others and THEY HAVE like SOMETIMES 40-50 Costumes -.- XD
Open wallet for gacha makes me feel empty inside
40% 
remember to do your coop, content that arguably matters more than champ
1K $ Spend wooo insane must be rich then others
Watch others do 50% your hands will need surgery
And Remember the bugs on Nikke last time that was PATCHED? I saw 120 level or lower UNITS Finish HC Campaigns on HIGH levels of DEFICIT I'ts insane how far dedication and BUG Abuse brings you
And if your REALLY GOOD? You sometimes get Warning from SHIFT UP not using MACRO cause apparently almost PERFECT Alice MANUAL makes you a BOT XD
Others they just ban without asking sadly

coop dudes decided to break all qtes of mod, so I'll be here chatting for the next 2 min
LOL Thats toxic XD
waste of time
idk if I trust them to fix coop issues tbh
on one hand it's pve, on the other hand it's minimal impact content they've been ignoring for forever
They said better rewards BUT WHEN?????
to buy boxes, si
we all saw how much they changed UR
only making critical changes when unions in jp literally disbanded and ppl kinda went crazy
coop is up
coop?!
Alright I self decided that SIREN IS RL Bubbles goes pop
Time 2 afk
I can't wait for in 2028 when we got surface content, but it released with so many issues, that by the time they get around to attempt to fix it, they have already moved on to their next main focus, and so surface content remains borked for another 2 years until they get around to making smol fixes
My bracket’s dolphins spends but doesnt push campaign 
No time most likely
Jobs Real life ETC ETC
been nice knowing you
AIGHT me out guys was fun talking with you lot
at least I won't open a modmail to report you 
I have the clip on phone, but it's not even 30fps coz Nikke mobile is sucks
Wind weak mod, pick ssak go afk, profit
This one, 4-1, top only win T3 @eager mountain
For T1, Bottom Emi seems to have more CS and shoot right after indom is gone
news to me
Frame addicts 
That means someone should make PvP union full of whale and disband it while using "CA is trash", so they will fix CA 
actually nvm hes still attacking
it'll have to big big enough and with enough whales, and have it be talked about and complained about by asia community
CN surely will complain when they get this feature
that's why they make the rewards basically meaningless, so ppl have less reason to care, so less likely to complain 
ur actually matters, ca means nothing
CN will complain just about everything, probably the reason they speedrun CA project because they want to make Global as testing ground before CN
just ask Skyjiv to make a video about it. He seems convinced SU watch his video complaints and makes changes based on some of his suggestions
Would love to have pvp competitive unions 
so still end up being indom fight
the timing is just whats called "luck" and ammo rather then cs
lets go
Need more CA union incentives
@keen vapor
Have you pass ch27? I'm start moving on with 381 synch now but out of battery. 
Please suggest to bring rehabilitation nikke to Arena shop 
considering they gave up on rehab completely...
would be a very nice QoL improvement to throw Levi and Behemoth into Liberation but they'll never do that
waos 381
so now you are 2m cp in sp?
My competitive union was jokjng about it 
1.96m, could be 2m depending on the team... Many of my units like Jackal low CP. You should be 2m easily at 381.
oh nice, and yeah. thats the expected cp for 381. im trying some gamba things to make it 2.1 at 381
probably some max dolls before that will help or better lines
RIP 2 ele line just for 4 CS line with 17+% CS on my helm
....i hope it doesnt ruin much for upcoming SoloRaid on 2.5 anniv
how about against 2rl cindy?
naaaaaaaaaaaa i gotta need my stock rock for Siren
yes
idk if it's spA
spa and champ it doesn't work afaik
Finally had free time to record and upload. Champion Arena NA Top 4.
I lost 2-3, was expecting to lose 1-4 cause of the bad matchup 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dsU94FRL3w
Here's the replay for my fights for the top 4 of the Champions Duel of Champion Arena Beta Season 1 on NA. I had really bad luck, being matched with hard counters for 4 of my 5 teams. Lost 2-3 instead of 1-4 though but wasn't surprised by the outcome. Next season will be different now that we know the attack rules.
- League (prelims): https://y...
HelmT doesn't want Ammo though
@Valco, would you bet on Sol or Arland?
1 ammo is fine

Allows for more charged shot during burst window
But hitting last bullet give 14.64% Crit rate for whole team. So better damage during burst overall.
Have not found one yet

If u dont burst with helm, no ammo is good
If u burst with helm, ammo is fine iirc
oh i have a decent core of nero
time to include her to build list
Even if you burst with helm 1 reload to make your whole team dealing more dmg and better lifesteal is still better. Unless you used HelmT as your lone dps.. which isn't not much anyway
Gamba thins
Siren clipRL surely
Imagine
Here's the final matchup for my server:
I only have Nero lb1, should I build?
My prediction: Zeus win
- T1 Zeus win cause SG vs Biscuit'd Moran. This guy is lucky af cause in no other realistic scenario would a 4RL SAnis team win
- T2 Unsure as while Realsav's Scarlet bursts first, Zeus' Rosanna could potentially nuke both Scarlet and RH before Realsav can B3 burst
- T3 Zeus win probably as P2 Cindy will feed Zeus into a 2RL nuke that might happen before Blanc invuln
- T4 Zeus win probably as SG on defence will nuke down Biscuit pretty fast and SAnis is gonna drop soon after (SAnis team also delayed burst due to losing Biscuit)
- T5 Zeus win, better Scalter team with the Blanc invuln
This probably means a lot of people next season will be copying Zeus' teams, probably
Probably but is not just 1 unit, all your units must be max doll, max skill.and the more cores the better
i just want my free credits 
Keripo once said: you can not copy a team you do not have the units invested
same as mine but i can't explain it properly

im gonna hard focus pve cause no way i can beat those pvp investment folks
His teams arent that well invested, they're just functional. Well, except for that wtf-4RL SAnis team lol
Owo
what happened to your bracket btw?
Hahahha
All china fighting there
What’s the point of CA? A whale and leviathan measuring contest?
Since CA rules were never published before it started, people made a lot of logical but incorrect assumptions
The complete opposite. Some of NA's biggest whales got eliminated in the League round or first day of Promotion round

i thought you would win
now that people understand the rules and have teams to copy though, it'll be tougher for non-whales to win against whales that use proper teams, but there's still a rock-paper-scissors factor at play

Me too but rng was not in my favor this time
I made my teams thinking it was a defense team, my T1 and T3 was freebie whenever it is attacking against SG.. sole B1 on P5 
crit for normal attack i think, thats the issue
For next season i will go with better teams
i lost based on your suggestion ytd

I actually need to change my cheer to Zeus. I thought Realsav had better teams at a first glance but he made a glaring mistake with his T4's biscuit placement that'll cost him hard and he got unlucky hard countered with his T1. The other matchups are literally mirrors but with slightly worse variants
makima taunt won him the game
imma tryout 2rl 3team
Nice
Zeus for the win
14 didn't get to burst so rip
it's the first time i see mg vs mg
im betting on Arland
I did say Right side gen was trash though.. I thought you went left after I sent this
well...i dont wanna spend any more rocks on her so....ill remove dat later 

Months later
makima can be a game changer if placed at most ppl put their sg team
Well on that fight it.. was two bad teams against each other 
Both not bursting, became a normal atk battle, Makima is good to stall for those kinds.. 
- T1 - Zeus wins. SAnis and Naga will kill Poli, and Realsav cannot Burst.
- T2 - CS can allow Rosanna to burst before Scarlet and kill enemy Scarlet. Scarlet might also die from LaplaceTr since unlinked from Jackal.
- T3 - Zeus should Burst faster but who knows targeting order sucks and we know Cindy's decoy is considered a target too.
- T4 - Zeus wins. Backward SG with BSoda Elemental Advantage. Enemy 4 RL; gives too much time for backline pressure.
- T5 - Zeus wins for obvious reasons.
kinda goes to show how rng things are
someone with a 4rl sanis, base 3rl scar rosa jack, unprotected 2-3rl cindy, poorly made sg team, and a pretty decent indom scar can beat keripo
literally down to match order
if just 2 rounds were swapped, good chance keripo wins 3-2
"just get lucky" arena
when I found out things were just auto battle, I was hoping each side's r1 would fight all 5 opponent teams, and repeat, so I think 25 fights total rather than 5, but that probably will burn down servers or add 1-2 days of calc time
at least that way the rng is cut down significantly
next season is gonna be about mind games, do you predict your opponents using the same team orders (scar in t1 t2, trash in t4 t5 for the most part), or are you predicting they'll react to that info and adjust to counter that
Server where
Or ure countering that prediction that you will be countering them
I remember we discussed this first hour and voted for Zeus. Zeus was in the lead 75 vs 25 too. But thing changed in a few hours lol.
Or perhaps they will be countering the counter to that prediction that you will be countering them
yeah that
yeah it'll be a bit nuts, will only settle down after a few seasons
So you should be countering the counter to the counter to the prediction that you will be countering them
tbh I might just throw 1-5 into a random number order generator and let rng decide
But what if they are countering the counter to the counter to the counter to the prediction that you will be countering them
Then shouldn't you be countering the counter to the counter to the counter to the counter to the prediction that you will be countering them
Im actually including Zeus' teams in my CA test matrix cause Im 99% sure a lot of people will copy him as the "guy who beat Keripo and 5-0 won in the finals"

yeah that's a good idea, counter what some are gonna copy
curious what the percentage wins are if the team orders were randomized
zeus loses to you probably like 80% of the time
most unit do off burst dmg from normal attack though, even off burst ASS... If for some reason you wanted off burst sbs then okay. 
Just against myself, my S2 cook is already looking significantly stronger
Imagine having Rapu. 
Yeah, my Privaty comp was definitely my weak point 
Privaty is outdated. Someone using it in CA is already a miracle. 
its a pretty reliable gatekeeper
problem is nowadays we have so many 2RL and 2.5RL team comps
thanks to the recent influx of high burst gen
they will print more clip rl / sg
I don't think you need to worry about that, it was just my nitpicking... ammo on Helm is fine, she is no ASS...
I legit need one more clip RL of some sort and I can run 3x 2RL + 2x 2.5RL teams
or a fixed version of pascal
over spec anis will also be pvp meta
SR form meta, SSR form meta overspec form meta
anis best girl

if at cost of helm reloading her buffed normals and thus missing few shots, nah
Overspec Anis meta dps but MG burst gen. 
HelmT reload really fast though, maybe missing one shot but she get full HP again anyway.
You will reload her during burst unless 150% Ammo or something. She aint tanking ASS with Ele anyway.
So rather reload early to earn that buff during enemies Noah, Biscuit window than reload at the end.
still essential for helm burst setups id say
In my HelmT team she will be the last Attacker to be hit by ASS lol, no worry about tanking here. 
60% + bastion should be almost long enough ig tho that might make her reload while opponent indom gone
smg anis
Why just SMG? Give her twin SMG like Quency. 
Why Anis? Go Volume
I want volume favorite item where her burst give like 20% more crit rate.

I guess Ammo is basically whatever for HelmT. 
Like overlock simulations beta, wait for 3 months. 
Yeah, don't do that. Just keep the ammo. It doesn't change much anyway unless you wanted her to be auto friendly when using with RH or sth. 
How to unbuild my Noise. I think Noise would be the best Sacc for Rossana around. There is no worry she would not be dead. Because she always taunt others to attack her.
Maybe Products 23 would finally see use in this game.
Can someone explain how I lost T3?
Their scarlet burst before your bay burst, so shes in effect useless
Ah ok. So I should try and make my team faster. Both are 3RL (just that their burst gen is 196 which is higher than mine at 153)
Where ma
Looking for some help to defeat this team. I don't have Trina.
Do you think this Jackal-Noise placement is a good idea?
following Keripo's pvp test matrix (not sure if updated), it says to use the same team but swap out for SBS
I already tried same team but he's invested in his units heavily. My scar dies before his.
So should I use same team as him but replaced drunk with shadow?
yes, that's what I meant
Playing on global?
I play on SEA
God comp?
Try out
Noah Biscuit Emilia RedHood Maxwell
Omni or tyranny
Neither
If the first comp fails then sure.
are those unions? yeah neither, my union is top 4%
What sync are you
Also try out
Noise Noah S.Anis Rapunzel Jackal, I think that was a really good one?
504

Do you get frame 3s in sowo raid
Yeah I beat that comp with the team he has now so I don't think it'll work for me
recently no since SEA seems to have gotten more competitive even after following my usual guideline of half of top ranker score

I got cut out twice since last solo raid
I am also kinda sure that 2rl helm kills god comp
Try out
Noah Biscuit helmT RH Jackal
(I am like 99% sure this works)
Is that even a good metric when like 200 people exist in that bracket
Who asked you
Fr
I asked u 
@void cave he's rude asf, don't join him
I apologize for mah rudenesss , it's simply the only metric which matters to me
I see
it's aight


Dw LD is my babe 
More so since sea 3% is better than any server
not better la
got 7 B last solo raid
Casual?
harder doesnt mean its better
It does technically
competitively, indeed

invest in meta, but lack of resources since goldfish (only spent on commander special package and 2 gacha skins)
Damn, basically me but I didn't spend on commander special package
Is one of those skins the crown skin
Why would it matter 
"Harder" is Better
Not having crown skin = bricked account

I don't make the rules 
SEA 3% better than jp?

Slightly lower
I spent it for volume since rouge wasn't available back then
Dw I spent an extra 20 bucks on a snowwhite skin
got 3.08% this SR
help me build teams for SP Arena
on the second image, not all characters have OL equipment
Neither, Rupee Gacha skin (1st time around) and Marciana

3.08% is basically 9.99% 
that is the feeling when you get frame 2 instead of frame 3

I built my treasure viper this SR, and my Xguillotine was barely functional. Not even my phantom is built at all
Scarlet Trina Anis Noir Jackal
Blanc SAnis RH Biscuit Rumani
Noah Centi Cindy HelmT Noise
Scarlet Trina is a must for PvP, this is ideal teams
You can use CP Pad team for T1 until you have built Scarlet Trina
If you want solo raid help, there are lots of ways, asking the help channel will give you general advice but if you want something more specific, like top 50 sr and secrets you need to join the place where those people gather

first team have the lowest CP
2nd have 441k
3rd have 480k
Just get 100% ele on everyone and ezpz SR
That's why I said use CP pad until your Scarlet Trina is built
what cube for anis?
cant use quantum since others using it
adjutant cube is also fine (the charge speed one)
CS yes
Please help me build SP arena teams
okay
thats what im running currently
what do yall think wins
No clue idk how to tell in champion
Left opponent on the betting page is the attacker
Oh my god why does nikke take 5 minutes to load
Need to wishlist PvP Nikkes
Top is attacker
How invested is the rosnanna
I would say top's still winning this one
I have no clue since i’m not in the finals 😭
Doll and cp she has
Thanks for the info, for now my union is still quite active, at least for union raid, and a few months ago I just been promoted to vice to supervise hits (not necessarily hit planning since we're casual but aim to finish day 1 normal UR each time)
If ever they become less active and see a spot open on the top leagues, I'll consider
That channel can't have more than 5 members of each server otherwise it's fake. 
Havent had it nor wanted it for a long time now lol
I dont participate here anymore haha
dont forget your moran feeds them
Scarlet Mari RedHood Noir Jackal
Centi Noise Cindy HelmT Rumani
Tia Anis Biscuit Ein Pepper/CP Pad (B1)
It should be LLRRL i think
How do you calculate the total burst gen per stage like this? Do you sum the burst gen for the units in the team, or is there a website already for it?
Create and share a GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE deck
@swift mango fun update, c4 is acutually using software or mashing refresh whole day but only to lock his c4 spot instead of messing with c2
T1 depend if Blanc can apply Indom to SAnis
He want to join CA that badly. Who need 300 gem? 
I mean if CA has better rewards, they'll go more crazy
lmfao too funny when u hit him at a random time, take screenshot of result, back to spa screen, and he already strike back
It's double taunt, Anis ain't it bro.
HelmT could snipe Noise or ASS before they burst as well
R you sure

Noise could catch HelmT with enough CS but it's basically 2rl vs barely 3.
Even before count double taunt counter ASS
The solution for dual SAnis taunt is easy tbh
You don't add solution for CA it's just you win or you lose.
If HelmT his Noise before she burst right immediately lose
If hit ASS, XMaiden could burst but Indom still on Noise.
Am I blind or T4 using HelmT's burst instead of Cindy?
Lol i think bro forgot to swap them when he was building his teams
I mean he made it to the finals tho
So i can’t exactly say anything
Same principle, if Left RH got sniped before she burst 1 then Left lost immediately
What if Emi has more Atk lines
If you are aiming for higher ranks consider joining us 
Hes kinda lucky for match up lmao
It's ASS should still stuck hitting Cindy decoy and Noah. For the duration. But with RH buff she could pull through? Who am I kidding lol. 
It's best they hit RH after she burst 1 lol
yeh depends on atk
Anyway, Cindy normal attack after burst is really hurt. So good luck surviving unless they got stuck on the Indom unit.
Yeah, I don't understand why SAnis and Emi in the same team
It's just if ASS died before no p1 protection Emi would burst with Indom.
Kinda waste tbh
Work in this case because no P5 target from enemy.
If burst with Emi they have a chance to win
If their Emi is stacked enough
that's why it's a waste, SAnis and Emi deserves their own team for each
You need to build a team without protection, that team need 2 main burst 2. It's just how it work. I don't even use ASS in any of my team.
She is good but my ASS suck.
Ok will give a try when I'm back home.
Now without CP advantage pro lem I could use ASS for a bit.
But let's see if I could put her in
This hot take, but using Biscuit together with Noah is a waste in CA
emi not with lap anyways
t1 doesnt need centi to 2rl
bad cook but got top2 regardless
cold take
its simply a waste
Noah+Biscuit is still the main reason SBS and HelmT lose in CA

even arguably a waste in spa, and without a doubt a waste in ca
I love it when I meet an enemy who doesn't put them together.
HelmT easily countered by Taunt/decoy, ScarBS only need random defender + biscuit
so that they can counter specific matchup like this, nice, definitely worth.
HelmT can be counter with Taunt/decoy, but not her life steal
Has anyone use R unit in CA for decoy?
RH+HelmT make everyone of your team with Life steal of ASS+Biscuit
Without Biscuit buff it's super stall.
That's the point, only need to protect your Nuker and Nuke them back
Can't nuke over Noah
Unless you build Emi 2rl
This is mine
I kinda tempted using R unit for Rosanna's decoy
Rossana sacc
Does upgrading rosanna’s s1 even do anything from 7 to 10
again r sr stats are similar
Since there's no penalty, that means we don't really need 5 strong roster in a team
It's a blessing in disguise that my HelmT doesn't have any ATK line, Rossana can't snipe her in a 3 Attacker team. 
I need Rapunzel for stall comp
You're going to keep your scarlet team? 
It felt expensive
She counter HelmT nuke directly yeah
Who said anything about them being the same?
It just funny running stall in CA lmao
I thought T1 same stats so 
There's also nothing wrong with keeping strong teams
My HelmT team lost to a 3rl exactly like that. She nuke an unit, Rapu rev. Then Noah taunt with biscuit on prevent any life steal. 
Its still best out of 5, so securing 3 wins is still your priority
Yeah I guess you're right
That just means it probably lost against the same team in both scenarios. Similar teams have similar weaknesses after all
Did you factor in that it could possibly be because that team 1 got lucky? Like what if it was up against any one of the other 4 teams
the primary goal is to replace my two weakest teams (Privaty and Ein) anyway
I'm just asking out of curiosity because I want to understand a bit better
I do a test matrix. Order doesn't matter
I thought they were winrates from current champs arena
Wish we could have Enikk give us easy winrates 
You cannot predict the order of your opponent so you just exclude that factor from the variables and still go for the teams with the highest win rates overall
I would not rely on S1 win rates anyways
It's going to be more or less of the same in the future (imo)
otherwise you'd be led to believe that a 4RL SAnis team is strong
Btw umm, what was your best performing team this time around
In terms of matches won
Even though I understand it was pure rng, it does help put some perspective
No once this CA, did my HelmT team facing a 2RL scarlet or even 3rl scar+Blanc, which 2 hard to beat team that I'm confidentially 100% beat with 2RL Helm... 
I dunno, there's only like 8 data points to go off of, not sufficient to give you any real data
but my guess would be strongest is Scarlet Jackal as expected, weakest was Privaty, not so much expected but more me underestimating how squishy a 3RL Noise team is at lvl 400 synchro
Yeah I remember at one point we used to point out how squishy our battles were compared to yours
But we moreso just forgot since it's been 2.5 years and they kept delaying champs
I was shocked like multiple times on how fast these nikkes die
max core and max investments do help though. One of my battles my SAnis team literally won against a Scarlet Jackal team. Rare example where investment diff actually played in, but in most cases, the gap isnt so big
lvl 400 synchro was, what, 3 months into the game for me?
Wtf
Jk it wasnt that fast
I think a bit later xD, at around the year and a half mark we were 400, so I think back when we were researching and all, You were like 500 and we were 300
This was 460 synchro in August 2023. So I'd assume I hit 400 probably 2 years ago, about half a year into the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P21q_nhONDE
UPDATED VIDEO: https://youtu.be/WYd77w4s_Hc
READ FULL VIDEO DESCRIPTION FOR EXPLANATION!
(PS: No the answer is not "just use Noah" or "just have higher CP")
I've been frequently asked the question, "How in the world do I beat a Scarlet-Jackal team in Rookie/SP Arena if I don't have Jackal???" After much badgering, I've given in and recorded th...
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did i call it right here? this is going to be a straight tossup?
Sorry for the crap Recording. Made a mistake in the timing
Yeah 2rl helm comes out very fast
seems like my initial issue was trying to keep scarlet alive but
if i dont have scarlet that issue doesnt exist 
Anyone know when the cheer cut off is?
iirc <t:1744981200:R>
I thought it didn't let you cheer once that timer hit like a hour
wait you are correct. its 1 hour for fighting as well then 1 hours for result verification
So 1 hour left to figure this out
juts do what i do. flip a coin and let rng decide 
I make bank
Misssed first cheer because I didn't know cheer cut off before the timer ended.
2nd cheer failed because I bet on the person with extremly heavily deficit advantage.
then I think 3rd failed because of no deficit again
mine was more like
1st cheer same as you but i logged in when 43 secs left for cheer cut off -> panicked
lost 70k creds
2nd cheer: tried to lose on purpose bet only 1 credit on person with worse teams
somehow won 2 credits

L win
How did you know when cut off was? I was clueless and didn't reach patch notes so i assumed there would be a different timer for the fight
instead of this horrible abombination of a battle and cheer time tied together
i didnt. i got lucky the first cheer
just casually logged in to check CA. found out only 43 secs left
T win

Wow Helm's team's burst is just horrible even with well T helm.
SBS bursts first according to deck builder
turns out you were wrong
it was 2 hours till cheer time ended then
cheer ended every 10pm JST and the fight ended every 11pm JST
Damn I always find these fights tricky, Noah will burst slighty before Cindy so blocked, RH b3 will likely be stalled by Biscuit/moran. Then what? Does RH win just from having health advantage from I assume being immune to all damage for those 5 seconds
Oh this is my fight I think, this is what rail said
Most have said it's a coin flip.
@raven plover any last words?
I checked your union, and the lowest sync level is 501, which is close to mine. Anyways, it's still full and that person's OL could be better
i can move people around as i wish, it depends on the person moving up/down between the coalition
I think Amba2 might win?
and UR is already anounced soo its busy time again
-700k for you 

It's all or nothing on this for that winner frame
I lost my winner frame already 
I voted for my enemy cus I was sure they gonna win, wtf miracle happened
I may be losing a LOT of credits today, considering 2 of my accounts are cheering the same way

i had a winstreak, until people convinced me not to vote on your opponent now
i lost
I was so sure he winning, I lost the cheer wtf 
did you bet yourself now?
I got lucky since I was just following the crowd last four match, but this one my instinct didn't feel good
union mate told me to do it, so I did 
I don't think it's a coinflip, it should be in your advantage.
Neither team can get over the opponent's Biscuit tank which means that it'll come down to post-burst damage, but you have 2 DPS as well as ele advantage on RH vs base stat Cinderella + XMaiden.
On top of that, once Moran dies, they won't ever be able to burst, whereas you still have RH B1 into Anis B2 (no B3 though because RH already used her B1 reset and Alice is probably still on cooldown).
I lost to similar 4 SGs team before but thats with cracked bsoda, I just need to pray 
sbs and maiden linked?
yea theyre
i think maiden might take too much damage and take blanc buff
if sanis isnt higher atk than viper I 100% winning lol
SG teams are a meance lol, way to make biscuit useless. on a lot of team comps.
this is where you counter me btw

"no my maiden is very invested and tanky"
nah 

like I said I lost to 4SGs cracked bsoda before 
already lost winner frame so I dont think about it that much
think of the credits, a win is basically an OL equipment
wtf dont expose me like that, I basically stalk my opponents on blabla.. but ended up losing cheer anyway 
most private it tho 
I hope so! I've been looking over the match history and that double sniper Noah build has really performed well. Alice has 4 lines of ammo and a Bastian cube. So those post burst grinds have been pretty favorable
I change the 2 into tu cus you know, ingame just 8 characters max 
Like as in you are one of the ones fighting or you are cheering this fight?
I'm one of the ones fighting
i mean this is fine
but if the person attack you knows pvp too, you will be countered
theres no perfect defense rn cause PVP is attack sided,
CA is only competitive because we dont have enough strong pvp teams to fill 5 slots
You about to lose me a million credits today? 
id run cindy team instead of rh blanc combo though but its fine ish
yup, the higher CP (above 15%) and right attack team will win
🥹🥹🥹 not sure yet but I hope so. Sorry if it goes that way
Actually more then a milion, 1.5 million credits could be lost today across 3 accounts.
As long as I can break even with credits in CA I'm happy
Everytime I feel like it’s a toss up I under bet
Hold on, isn't winning a loser frame for CA as difficult as getting a winner frame since you have to lose every single one?
Yes 
I think that's the point
If you can predict the loser then you can predict the winner
Nah this is actually crazy
Besides dair failing my first cheer, I've won every cheer at max slider.
Cope frame for after losing the first bet,
I will also say that there is a non-zero chance that Alice just one-shots Moran from half HP after the first Biscuit indom wears off so they don't get a second one.
though I guess purple doll + burst is kinda a lot of damage reduction
I was actually somewhat confident I won the cheer even though it felt like a toss up
I will say that the main swing for me is round 2, if your Helm B3 is leveled enough to one-shot SBS after Noise B1
26 min until next cheer locks in
Yeah not sure my Alice can hit that hard
they only have tanks left
Could someone explain? Was it burst gen that made him win this last round?
Multipliers, not just her rof during burst
Gotta invest
it's RH buffed Alice vs low invest Moran (purple doll) so there's a chance you can, but even if you can't it's probably fine. I think you win the post-burst trade
their team damage falls off drastically outside of burst
Ive been rolling to drop her CS and get another attack line
Only need the 2 lines for CS
but you should be fine I think. r1 loss, r2 win, r3 win, r4 win, r5 win is my prediction. I think Khiren was just a bit unlucky with team order.
That's 90% of CA. Getting good positioning.
if you had any other B3 than Helm on r2 maybe you lose to Noise, but Helm vs single B3 team is pretty nasty
Does noises taunt pull helms burst?
Noise taunt only affects the targets she hits I believe, she can't hit p3 so she only taunts your p1 + p2
that's why it's a non-factor
SBS dies, they have no B3, you win
you really shouldn't be losing that fight unless game bug 
Gotcha. I just learn d my Bay can tank Cindy too.. which is wild
So weird bug happens and SBS burst Bay should absorb a bit of that. Then with helms heal maybe I out pace still?
nah SBS outdamages Helm heal by a lot.
Gotcha
your team is Blanc debuffed + 1 sec charge time whereas SBS is 0.3 sec charge time
you never lifesteal in time
is it even needed to stalk? 
I really appreciate the info learning all these little details is rough for me 😅
I mean I have to learn as much as I can to keep up as Noah-less f2p 
You don’t have currency to pity her from the shop? That’s what I did
Noah was my first pilgrim. At first I was so disappointed. Now I feel bad for doubting her ❤️
Ya I just realized lmao my bad
Does Noah block or help team survive Cinderella burst?
moment of truth 
Noah is more impactful to arena than any other b2 by far
My cheer better not lose round 2 then
biscuit 
oh, didn't realize the fight is an extra hour after. 
for cheer, what if they have 17% cs 
Making me remember my anger when I saw urawhat was taken on PSN and had to go by urawut....
Ca is over?
Hasn't said yet we got an hour
piss
Biscuit is still less impactful. She's up there with trina and blanc though
imo biscuit and jackal r the key to arena
noah is nice but biscuit is core
cuz u need to protect ur p1
Yeah Noah doesn't work w/out biscuit
she does but mainly for countering aoe comps
u can run noah rapunzel for example
That's fair or mana **
There's wipe and stall. Stall works if you avoid wipe.
biscuit/jackal is like "does ur p1 live", cuz even aoe comps like a scarlet comp will kill ur p1 if theyre equally invested
So my cheer is cooked in round 5 😭
Who did u cheer again
Omnicorp
thats his union bozo
My bad I should have said the one on the left
Language if on phone let's you
I’m not doing all that
Just say the left one thats 4 letters
こんなふうに
liek that
okay but you are Rinn 
whats it to do with me?
That's 4 more than me.
uh.... right....

Nah the flex is crazy
Least sweaty duolingo user
French?
Ju mapelle Ike.
I'm blocking you
Tres bon.
I can tolerate being american but FRENCH blergh
@atomic wolf bopped you down to 4th
ty for heads up, hope you win
Wait me? I'm american
it was a joke
Ty, I didn't expect to get this far anyways because I just threw stuff together.
Been interesting
"Idk i just graft shit together and accidentally make a nuclear warhead"
I know lmao
He typoed je m'appelle anyways lmao
no french allowd
I prefer English anyways.
Listen an American is always right and I'm telling u ju mappelle is the right way!
I can barely keep up in English even
Ehhhh, my only goal when I made the teams was "even if they're not individually the strongest, make each team have something decent to bring to the fight." Like ideal comps split up so later extra teams got a decent support etc
well idk HOW that turned out but four of your teams are like individually competent so ig keep it up
LOL
Sometimes I thought about whatever the hell I was cooking in Roguelite games seems to be working even though they look like a makeshift flamethrower with no fuel
But worrying about it use too much of my brain so I just ignored it
Blanc, noah, trina, xanne, and bay are the easy b2 cook for ca. Fill in around that generally.
@tropic summit guess what my alt got
I got a biscuit lb today from a social pull. Biscuit rng stonks up
My team continues to be whatever I could think of
hmm interesting
podk hasn't been here a while now and he most likely can't get top 3 anymore so i'll just take those
ok hit khiren now 
REAL
i won't
Teams?
i made it clear that i'm fine with top 4
team 2 is a bit of an oversight, mostly because i didn't expect scarlet to die
team 3 is expected to lose
also shit i posted in the wrong order
he earned it tbh idc, just wanted to see if i can take it back in one try
no noah?
noahlet

life would've been easier for me if i have noah
Imo group scarlet and jackal together. You just need 2 wins
Another no ahless. 
read what i said above
his scarlet team should've been a skip without noah, could just focus on his cindy team, seems like 4RL? didn't check
it matters that i don't lose top 4 anyways
prob 3rl
whom does rapunzel revive
read her skill
first or 2nd victim
CA is meaningless and the good frames are only available for people who make it to finals or win CA though
ahh, ty
although tbh finals frame is kinda mid, considering the gold achievements frame
I get to CA so I can spread my yuri propaganda, not to win 
So you did reorganize them or nah?
You can definitely win
yeah, I did, in defense for the... rest of the bracket
plus i don't have any attempt and tomorrow the crow LARPer will hit us again so i just have to wait and trade
Fair enough
let's just say this
i have spent 2k4 once to get to CA
and you know this already
i will not spend it one more time considering i'm 100% eligible for CA from this point onwards
I find it kinda funny the 3rd and 4th in my bracket are gemming to make sure they stay top 4
meanwhile my bracket is just full of guys that won't stop coming on me of all the people
i think they just see my profile and get enraged buff
what's on your profile
what i'm showing here
Ca ain't happening for me right now or for awhile as I said many times bcuz of the arena shuffle. I might snipe 5 later if I don't need to reclaim my spot later lol.
ever tried taking top 4
i hate gnomes, you do too right
Cp gapped. It's difficult
Whales already got a decent cp gap on me but they're beatable easily.
Levis are different
do you not spend?
Ofc
I'm f2p
10 minutes till we all know who won or lost money
I'm the only one who can say f2p btw
i am f2p
riiiight
Are you active daily and pushing campaign tho
You're a decent bit behind me
Thanks now i know how to get past you
retro let's be honest you've seen my youtube clears
You know me well enough that I have one objective
I dont care if people get past me with a 37% alice team
Cindy + grave go brr
I will continue the trend of using what I like to shill what I love so idrc
honestly imagine if I got THelm back in container, grave clear would have been possible with 319k
I can't afford to push campaign with best girl Tove
trvepilled
tove best girl huh
Did u get her free baseball costume tho
It was before I started.... 😭
I've missed only 1 free costume besides the csm ones so far.
That's awesome. Ngl skins are my weakness. I should be spending on core dust but gotta have those flashy unit's
come on cheer 
you got all free costumes?
Minus 1 before me and csm which was also before me

@raven plover you live this time

@coarse solstice gratz!!
which teams did I win
❤️❤️❤️gg @smoky snow
No frame for me :/
@coarse solstice ALL of my 🗣️ "LOCK IN"!!! paid off, congrats!
So when is the next CA?
Now I don't feel bad losing to 2nd place
noice
I don't understand what happened to realsav's t4, his sanis survived to full burst, but somehow noah invul didn't apply?
oh no
You mean he destroys us 
ff league 1, one guy with good teams vs a guy who SU gifted him the easy counters
I was right this time
+12h and 1 credit is my overall result, at least not negative 
LapT at our trina 
Dair lost me the first cheer. 
Y'all @tropic summit deserves 100% of the credit. Goated for his help and cooking some incredible teams
ayy the hoboman wins
congratulations
getting this frame 
Rail wins 
Winner frame here we go
Rail's cooks = Rail wins
I should also get this frame but I'm 1000% sure intern-kun doesn't speak english very well and failed here
Surely not mistranslation 
indeed intern kun moment

Congratulations!
@coarse solstice did you win
Can u share your teams?
rip your money
Excellent
I GUESS I HAVE TO UNBLOCK KISENIX NOW
Gold frame acquired, you didn’t let me down 
Eah, imagine
now I wonder if blood wins
I'll post the team my record for each and the video in a bit when I'm on my brrak
And I lose like 500k from that too
if I only I had more faith in myself. couldve gotten the dice frame as well.
actually the other 2m makes up for it so its fine ig
broke ass
I knew besti would win
Vesti the besti my friendo
nice
When it comes to gambling you do not get any dopamine for not going all in
hmm I probably should've gone for silver frame though, it looks better
unless you're going for the unlucky frame
time to change name to championman

I was only one match off (1st one I went R instead of L) 🙂
holy my 1st team lost
thank you for the prayers and the screenshot 
"Unlucky frame" bro think I'm not good with my Gamer™ sense
for yawn team 1 weirdly fast scar even tho he using moran
Sleep with one eye open lil bro
@coarse solstice can I borrow you 560k
I lost the bet against you I swear next CA I'll make it BIG trust
Gonna pay back tenfold
@coarse solstice the rapu indom again 😭
Rip there goes 1.5 million credits.
Rapi indom strat is some shit cuh
Yeah I should have kept my orignal bet
how many match did zeus win?
I thought I was right about the prediction
Since team 3 is a coinflip
I thought moran/biscuit would stall a bit longer then noah/biscuit could
the other thing I forgot to say when I watched Khiren's top 4 fight was that his Biscuit is super squishy without Noah's indom, it died to rocket splash and couldn't even get a second proc
That's crazy 😭
feelsbadman @swift mango
Rh buffs attack big time, alice was 
Not really, naoh gets hit to half HP then both their immunity gets activated, so biscuit over laps her immunity with Noah
Noah should win iirc
^
3 second invin to Biscuit makes such a big difference for whether you get a second Biscuit proc or not
Comeback match...from 0:2 to 3:2 
Ah ok
since it's ungeared as hell
blood champion
I was told the fight was a coin flip so i guessed
he lost
nah if it was geared Biscuit it'd be about even tbh
Still blood did fine getting to finals
indeed, thats a very good feat
oh my bad didn't see carefully
Semi champ
Khiren won everytime I bet against him, and lost the one time I didn't.

so 345?
I learned that you commit and just keep betting against some one forever
Dw we'll get our frames next time 
I threw away half a mill in total 😄
his scar team lost?
I'm most likely dropping this game anyways if 2.5 gives bad pulls.
I swear if I got a match up like this again.......
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1360832513827803259/image.png?ex=6803250a&is=6801d38a&hm=689798e6e85da5307a2d3da6f8c81b5de509629f2c6f2fe8e08942f60c676739&
It's okay bc you're gonna crash out next CA 
his first 3 team lost
nero quiry enjoyers
do we know the CA frequency?

should be every 2 weeks, same as SPA
I hope one every 10 years.
unless they are not doing it every season
slammed
Don't think so. Assuming it begins again after next SPA bracket but nothing confirmed
but if they don't do it every season how do they expect people to get 30 championship wins 
i won't be crying for credit anymore
Sorry lol there was too many uncertainty in the match up being attacker.
they gonna delay it 
you did good
lol not even close. I actually thought this would be about even with round 3 being the tie breaker.
Next CA I should just assume the one I think will win will lose
Almost every match I was bet against. Didn’t expect to win. GG
Thanks, didnt expect to get this far honestly. Hopefully next CA, ill set up better teams now that we know how CA works
nah it wasn't close, Khiren's team order was unlucky
yea, a lot of people thought cp gap would be a thing so plenty of teams were funky
his teams were either just slightly too slow or had bad matchup
Also can CA stop with the stupid camera zoom like they have massively impressive jar dropping graphics, intense battle.
Just show the fight,.
100%
don't zoom around
T1 4/6 T2 4/6 T3 5/6 T4 5/6 T5 6/6
even crit wont do ig 
the fight is a coin flip with team 3 being the defining point, I had trust in Khiren's team but if she loses well that coinflip sucked shit
Am I being delusional, or wasn't there supposed to be a lucky and unlucky frame?
there are
Thank you! And good teams bro
I mean she only won 1 round, so I guess it wasn't much of a coin flip.
his Biscuit dying r3 to rocket splash before second proc because you had Noah and he didn't was so unfortunate lol
oh i hit the mark for that match
I can't find it anymore?
NA
the other matches played out more or less how I expected
It was a wild match for sure
they'll be distributed at the end, if you won them, afaik
next season will lower people's hype cause we won't get a minus in credit
Wait waht can gou post result
and surely they add more stuff to the cheers 
I was kind of expecting blanc to win round 2 for her.
r1 win, r2-5 loss for Khiren
with the immunity.
WHAT
I think everyone got baited by the Noise taunt
but Noise only taunts pos 1+2, so Helm always one-shots SBS there
noise skill still proc 5 frames after dead
she lost round 2 yeah ok I'm unsubbing khiren's twitch channel
they're always losing if no B3
Matches are posted just above clipped if you want to watch
I'm not gonna watch all of that, my prediction is (almost) on point, she wins round 1/2, coinflip round 3, loses round 4/5
I will see how round 2/3 goes
i think they should make another option for safe bet or high risk bet, that way people can choose whatever they want
@lusty gull I never doubted you 
Bad matchup you hate to see it

it didn't even necessarily have to be Helm either, as long as it could kill SBS through Noise max HP buff
just that Helm is the best
we win some money

That helm team always made me nervous but ended up coming in clutch a bunch
Dude that round 2 is foul
Helm is basically only bad into Noah tbh, it should win almost every other matchup
if they had a second B3 then maybe they had a chance
@tropic summit Killed it, noice 
Yeah you were lol i had some pretty bad disadvantages
Ngl all this predicting is pretty fun
yeah, my prediction was off for match 1 but otherwise on point 🙂
The game mode still sucks horse ass though but
Honestly was expecting more for being "champion" arena
I think it would've been too sweaty if it wasn't done like this
Champion my ass
and I don't think most whales want to sweat
Hahaha
Dont laugh I just lost 560k (my life saving)
All my losses happened because of scarlet, I am not good at figuring out her power
In the end of whole evenmt I earned 0 credits lol









