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that outfit is so good
we all need an alice in our life 
I don't have a lot of kits left but I'll keep trying to get more from dispatches for Siren
Very
chibidoki Alice when

๐ณ
I saved that alice convo ๐
level too low, cannot train this pokemon yet 
haha sounds about right
@unique wagon i've added more data, there's now 29 teams, took a look at the teams that passed CA first phase and aren't trash
when you've got time, add a check that prevents duplicates as it wouldn't be unrealistic to run into similar if not identical lineups at some point
the check should prevent:
-exact same lineup
-same lineup with different order
e.g.
noise rumani centi cind helm
noise centi cind helm rumani
although, this one would be instead acceptable, but if it complicates things just ignore
ein SBS blanc centi jackal (indom ein)
sbs ein blanc centi jackal (indom sbs)
easy enough to de-dupe them you just put the data into name order and get the unique entries
ye was thinking something similar
Hi, I've been using the team recommended to me a month ago & It's been great. What other teams comps can I use to alternate my defense teams with? Any other units I should raise?
No Trina but i'm hoping to get her via wishlist/spook so I can build her too.
did ur defense break yet?
It did once 10 hours ago.
so it lasted a month?
All eyes on me 
easy underdog win surely 

Yes.
hmm awesome
opponent probably learned to use emilia against your T3
my teams included I hope
do they match this criteria? 
Keripo
Keripo nearly flawless win 
If by first phase you mean passed the tournament qualifications, then yes
+I showed them to RPS anyways
The team you made is working really well for my group
.
should i just follow what most other people think here ?
Look and compare the teams
I did and for me the 1st guy should win but maybe Iโm missing something ?
The crowd won't always be right, especially since people will just vote for whoever has most votes anyways, unless they have some pvp knowledge that is
let's take it gradually, try these next (first var1, if he beats it, go into var2)
helmT and jackal must've higher HP than s.anis (run vigor cube as needed if not)
s.anis must be burst lvl 9, no ammo OL, run resil cube
They have to win the majority of the matches right ?
Yes
Yes so no way this guys loses
I posted the team before if you can take a look but he wins t1, t2 and t4 for sure for me
Here
almost a swipe, RNG on last
dude got utterly c*cked by RNG
scarlet against hard counter, scar 2RL against noahless cindy 2RL... nero team against cp pad
it's already over on the first 3 matches 
How about this?
How do you make these
Left win i think
Left wins I think
another victim of RNG, although weaker all-purpose teams
T1 is even 4RL 
rosanna in p2 gonna lose concealment against splash
nero teams are having very good stonks as long as they don't run into scarlets 
or really strong SGs 
eh with rapu and helmT that's mitigated
Soda burst dmg is decent or we just gamble her stun?
bsoda is abusing ele weak against elec code
soda is just for the stun
I forgor to save the clip 
damage reduction stacking, ultra stall
a fully invested moran nero team that lost against SG is something i'd love to see ๐ค
Nice,ig 111 soda work for team 4/5...
moran bay for single hit nukers
moran nero is weak against scarlet, overall better all-purpose
ultimately it's RNG against who goes who
although in average having strong all-purpose teams seems to fare better
Got it.
HelmT & Jackal do have higher HP than S.anis (yes to all her requirements).
Thanks again for the team recommendations
.
moran nero can survive cindy, s.anis, single buff emi, single buff scarlet, SBS and so on, you're looking at a typical stall team
just that it well rounds on dmg reduction over dmg spreading
it's essentially aiming to outlive you
meanwhile bay buys you time
it's very situational and opponent dependant, but they serve ultimately a kind of stalling purpose
ideally you'd want to spread moran nero from bay though
bay and nero are both B2 and you want to burst with both
it's not the right time for your synch tho
they're all expensive af
max doll, max skills, 4OL
(nero and moran)
finish your pve teams first then you can worry about those
still mad about what happened to me
lucksacking is insane
almost lost cuz of it too
on top of my head, 3 stall oriented teams with sustain, involving nero, moran, bay
when she receives healing from any source
Someon heal her
that's what you want
split tanking, gives you time to heal better
noah and noise are trying to do the same when you run them together
healing is mostly ticks and they need time to work better
if you're stalling, you're also healing better, as you spread damage
Anyone use moran trina this season?
haven't seen one yet
ye but you need 5 teams
either you consolidate in 2 and forsake the 3rd 
moran and nero then noise and bay
one in my server
it's choices you can make
Left win yea?
you can push dmg reduction past 70% iirc
just look up all the nikke that involve damage reduction 
add doll dmg reduction and temperance
look at SS
Words speak a thousand puctures
it's the opposite 
no you can
dmg reduction has no upper limit as far as i know
i didn't spend enough time in it to analyze it in-depth myself, but i remember discussions of hitting 70%+ dmg reduction stacking
Interesting
That's the joke 

prove them wrong with what we discussed
time to ball
then have popcorns and cake afterward 
but you cheered against yourself 
Dont forget share the result
Just type , the insane guy wins 
all the teams that are crossed out lose 



If I win, I lose in any cases, balanced
quiry is actually used
look up some of merry's videos shared here
in fact before helmt was released, there was already a meme team
helmt made that meme team way more feasible now
found second team w/ moran trina... this one has scarlet
a team apart from nero team that can reach 70% reduction? 
hmm interesting choice, trina is buffing both moran and cindy
win big lah
still dont have xanne, is she still worth now?
share your team 
NA players don't have a brain?
i think i've been repeating myself quite a lots regarding of that
@lunar dirge how much did you bet against yourself
600k, pocket change for me
well then you're in luck 
i'm not separating grave and cindy so even if i lose i don't care
thats alot
the man is on a mission 
CA in 1 minute hmm
i'll prob lose, since they have a moran/trina team
I remember this guy
popcorn in hand
looks like he's gonna need serious therapy after that one
He adapt after 2 seasons
if it takes him an entire months to adapt it means he adapted nothing
huh
lol another 1 hour
wth
to maint.
It says fight, so it's just 22h waiting period just for cheering 
1 hour of fighting 
daily reminder from SU to essentially do something else and stop caring so much, because they sure as hell don't give a f 
Why they couldn't show us the fight right after the cheering ended
was beta of overclock this bad?
It went normal iirc
beta surely 

Sleep arena strikes again
81% against me 
prove them wrong 

Rookie numbers
Wait, it goes lower
Shouldn't be voting against yourself 
If I win, I lose
If I lose, I win
91.11% people quit before they hit big btw
@lunar dirge should go all in 
believe in yourself 
yesterday you said tomorrow 
make your dreams come true 
It's already locked anyways
They could improve cheering rewards based on cheer status %
if matchup wins with less than 10%, you earn rocks aswell 
Minimum double rewards, maximum based on cheering difference
Tbh I dont think that would benefit enough people for the devs to do it 
Putting jackal, blanc and biscuit on the same team seems like such a waste.
Mostly the people who PvP and look at teams to understand how they work
Exactly, make people actually try to understand how pvp works, instead of asking us 24/7 
I'm tempted to bet on the 12%
some just win because of no competitors and it's shown here
DON'T LAUGH I DIDN'T KNOW THAT I WAS GIVING AWAY FREE 1.5X BURST TO THE ENEMY
some peaceful bracket made weak team 
thats why you walk in same place 
I'M STUPID OKAY
You can't bet anymore
There's a bot in top 64
From a full bot bracket
Strange
Wait til u realize it's actually 7/4x burst gen

Strange how you forgot to cheer for nearly 24h 
I see nothing in cheer log though, I don't remember if I cheered on this account or not
Cuz ur decoy is also a target
Ah I thought you could bet at any time beforer the time ran out
how does that work even, is it because cindy is too fat or its just her decoy
The timer already ran out
Oh I see

She makes ur enemy hit p2 for 3 splash 3 cover and has a decoy in p1 that gets splashed so u get 7 target instead of 4
i want to die
ALL this time i was losing in pvp
You also lost the chance to potentially get the cheering frame 
Don't have to spend 5 minutes adding up team combat power
The 2nd one is better anyways.
because i neglected the MOST basic pvp understanding
i must atone by harakiri myself
Helm P5 attacker means inviting Maiden/SAnis/Naga
Darn...apparently CA lock enhancement after registering....my Rumani is soo RIP....i did upgrade this morning but it's not upgraded on CA 
Thank you btw
feel free to remove any team you don't think makes good material though
you welcome, lemme know how it goes
Hey, if when I win when I lose, I might win twice as hard next time
You know whats funny. Putting Jackal with Biscuit is a waste, putting Blanc with Cindy is a waste, putting Biscu with Cindy is unideal (not a waste; it's needed sometimes and probably required by most players without good tempering/doll investment on Noah), and putting Jackal with Cindy is also unideal (because other clip RLs are better but sometimes you need her).
It kind of sucks I lost a cheering frame for not understanding the timer
aw well, lost forever
Yeah when I went to bed I thought the timer was on like 10 hours
How does having biscuit help in PVP? I wanna update my teams
Biscuit with noah+Cindy is actually pretty solid
so I was going to cheer when I got up
Nah even team 4 is coinflip
Nah I'd win
CA can't be gone fast enough
FELL FOR IT AGAIN AWARD
the entire reason I didn't feel like cheering is because the team comps didn't add up combat power
so I would need to manaully type in combat power for like 5 minutes
Yea that's annoying
fr fr it feels like SU is actively sabotaging this
Surely indom will go to SBS
There is cheering frame?
If Team 4 enemy is defending, he might lose because Blanc gives indom to Rumani.
Those 24 hours without tickets from SP really put me behind lol
99% people quits before they hit big ahh statement
So any way to integrate Buscuit? Or do I not need to?
From previous recommendations.
you probably lose too much CP trying to put in Biscuit for rookie.
Oh u shud
can put in SP somewhere though
So I can't do any better than current?
well you can kick Mari for Biscuit and moving Centi to p1, that team is pretty slow anyway.
U can start by changing Mari into Biscuit and change Naga to Crown
cus both are 4 RL anyways.
If this for me........I don't have crown, son!
you don't really have an ideal defender to take advantage of other than Blanc but it's a waste to use both on the same team for SP
they'll just dodge that team
Dodge?
they'll swing over the other 2 that are obviously weaker, you only need to win 2/3
OK so, first for rookie
Currently, I am fairing pretty good, as long as the lowlives in my bracket don't decide to spitroast me
nvm its not treasured yet
Hmmm
well you can do a Blanc team and a Moran/Biscuit/Mana stall
the Moran team can be slow
She is 9/10/8 with and SR11 doll
and CP pad it with the last 2 units
team 3 you just accept that it's gonna lose, no point to dedicate resources to it
Why is ur moran 9 10 8 and:
..........
Not moran. Helm
I think he means Helm
bc all the CA propaganda talk abt Moran duh
Ooooo
Im the leader
Moran Biscuit Sanis
..........................

Plox see my roster
Im not answering u. Kuwon is
anyway you can do something like Moran/Naga/Rapi/Biscuit/Mana and go for super long stall
Moran will get heal and invuln and even if she dies she'll revive off Mana and do it again
team 1 can just be your standard 3RL Blanc team
This is for rookie?
T-minus 6
no for SP
rookie Idk how far you are CP gapped compared to your competitors
just treasure helm asap
because you probably have 0 invested PvP units
GIVE ME MAINTENANCE KITS THEN! 
even if you build a "good" team you can just lose to CP deficit
they run you over with their campaign team that's 100k CP higher
ABSO-FK-LUTELY! Why would I when I am still pushing campaign?
Dont invest in pvp its a scam
T-minus 3 until.... 1 hr for finalizing results
What do you mean?
Naw it isn't. It's just for whales
I hate when people say this. How can anyone know if they aren't being pointed in the right direction?
Noise is a great PVP unit. In the early days before anomaly iirc she was used to take down altesien (sp?)
or so i read. wasn't playing back then
fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
really another hr
guess I'm going for the loser frame
@tropic summit
im gonna win this CA
Haters hehe
oh nvm i updated too quick

congratz for the win lol
I made 950K off Yuno!

1,2m on a bet against myself
You are Reroll?
There is a little movie icon arrow thing
wth, why i lose this...
damn results out
your team died before Blanc can burst?
bruh...
3RL team vs 2RL
OK so the screenshots I posted are my competition at rookie
2rl Cindy vs 3rl blanc, yeah, why you lost


wth
HAHAHAHA
sheep will be sheep

ayo i won the bet
I found out that I was group number 1 out of 64 groups, so I would be on the offensive side the whole time, which was so unfair.
see I believe in u, all good

That River guy is hard to beat. Any suggestions?
against all odd, I bet on you

you can outlast Noah with Blanc but your CP is just too low tbh
koy also won
Not enuf speed
ikki too
his team is 3RL so if you can CP pad to 3.5RL on your Blanc team you can do it though

How much CP do I need? I have 274K tops atm
but that means you can probably only use Jackal + Blanc
because anymore and you probably don't have enough CP
4-1 swept, damn I should have more faith lmao
Shaddap and take it
actually you know what 1m credit is good, nice
credit reward is spicy, just win
you not having a good chance next sadly 
dude
So what team do you suggest?
yeah don't think it's doable with your current units, Jackal + Blanc is not even 4RL speed
got what i wanted award
even adding Naga just barely makes it 4RL
Rip my CA run is over
SHE ALMOST TOOK IT(ROUND 2) https://youtu.be/C7w0XMlVMoc
why bet against yourself
Yeh I figured
Cause im not confident on my team
beta male mentality
in life you always get one chance to balls out
What about him?
just be confident about yourself
The team i didn't count on
@fallow leaf thx for the free 1million credits
but should i vot agaisnt your mirror match this time?
who is the stronger guilotine?
i want to win double my credits...
your 4th and 5th might win but the first 3 gonna be hard
Him I win sometimes and lose sometimes.
lmao, i didnt think id win
600k gone
look at actual matchups ๐ theres too much rng for random lineup to know without looking
Congrats to all who won and won their bets 
i bet against the crowd and won
Imma come back in 5 hours after the arena storm
note to all. make 5 teams, even 4RL is fine. 
you take the W?
just max out every char and cp gap them
yeah. but likely lose next 
NOOOOOo
i suggest putting them all in a sheet thats how i do it
pro gamer move failed lmao
idk how use excel
in my group stage 1 guy had 3,9 mil CP vs everyone's 3,1-3,2, I'M salty about it
no cp penalty btw
bros..... My credits......
do u get more credits? or the same
double what i put down
i mean if u go against the crowd. so its still the same (double)
CP:
t1 - 785k vs 741k
t2 - 785k vs 797k
t3 - 711k vs 780k
t4 - 749k vs 681k
t5 - 666k vs 488k
thoughts? @tropic summit 
thinking unlucky loses t1, wins t2, loses t3, and wins t4 and t5
I'm gonna be cheering for the losers now
starting to think cheer is bugged
opponent who had 3 obvious losing matchups somehow won ๐ค
inb4 underground arena rigging 
u can watch the replay
1-4 next round?
herd mentality got me
uh ok guess i didn't see it lemme see
in my case the result went as expected, won the 2 he was supposed to win, lost the 2 he was supposed to lose, and the first was a dice throw
theres a little replay button on the league screen that lets u watch
my case ppl gut were right i guess
rapibutt lmao
works every time 50% of the time 
cuz theres only 2 choices
@full dew should i bet it all on you or @fallow leaf ?
prolly gatrix
Loss.
Win.
Loss (Rapunzel P3 is a mistake)
Win
Win
I was initially mad I didn't get in bc I was like 10 points behind the guy who got in, but seeing the people fighting in champ arena I wouldn't stand a chance either way lol. I thought it was just gonna be the top 4 in every section vs each other
but your commander lvl is lower...
this is you?
yes, next round
Show lineup
rip

you emilia team and cindy team might win
L WWWW
yeah, but having 10%-20% stats on everyone else is definitely helpful
aww darn i can only do 4 pics at a time
bay can block cindy burst?
Hard to toggle between 10 pics
yea, just making sure I vote for the loser 
thats not true... C4 guy in my server made it past this round and he's been 2.5M CP
Opoonent P1 Cindy should feed u much faster. Hopefully SAnis wipes them out then
there u go
someone needs to go to SK and teach SU devs how fantasy football works... this rng on top of rng nonsense is ridonk
i am saltyaf
Name checks out
Ever since I got access to arena way back when I've been placed through every reshuffle passed the first two with a leviathan. I initially rose pretty quickly and had first place for the first couple of months, then after that point I was stuck with a guy who had TRIPLE MY CP. Now for about a year or so he's just been first place the entire time while us peasants have half his cp fighting amongst ourselves lol. Still he doesn't get first place in ranking for some reason, even if no one can beat him
lmao i clutch!
Should have bet on me ๐
same lmaooo
#pvp-arena message hey @tropic summit there's a chance
2RL cindy nuke vs 3RL (at best) emilia nuke 
was 1340k the max cheer?
I bet 99% just initially see the profile pic they like the most and vote for it, then the rest herd mentality it hahah
it depend on your od lvl
@tropic summit how about me this time. Ur analysis almost 100% correct last time
Isnโt this the YouTuber guy in the far upper right corner? ๐
Sky yeah
o wow sky
I'd cheer for him any day
ez bet on sky
Oh crap. We wonโt fight in other groups I hope. Iโm in group 1 lol
brutal rng placement
- Team 1: Win.
- Team 2: Win
- Team 3: Win if Gatrix doesn't die.
- Team 4: Win
- Team 5: Lose unless Gatrix SG kills Jackal first or the SG deaths are spread out that Rosanna can kill Scarlet and Emilia. Iffy depending on investments. Cus Marbles' shit ain't dolled. So maybe win? Maybe lose? Who knows? I'd still vote for Gatrix.
And Idk why ur Noir isnt SR dolled. @full dew
thanks for helping me bet on the winner 
XAnne blue doll might be a problem too.
does SBS swing 3 times before 2RL? Or only 2 times?
I need to know if I get a proc or not 
I might be wrong.
@graceful grotto @tropic summit didn't quite go as expected won round 2 instead of lost and looks like cereal was right on round 3
is it possible to turn off the jumping camera?
does gatrix higher CombatPower make up for everything?
Hmm
W L (Luck) W W

Already done just trimming it. I killed Red Hood with burst the one afer
that's the thing, snapshoting is fixed, so she may hit pre indom and f up indom priority or may not because she hits invulnerable first instead
this is your opponent:
(they have a higher sync than you)
shouldn't the 2RL nuke happen before 3RL b2 though?
matchups r most important
No.
wym no, if u get rng countered on ur 5 team matchups u lose regardless of everything
Actually no tbf
no how
Cus there are teams that are just shit
bet on him then 
yes and u look specifically at that team, just because a team gets countered by 90% of things doesnt mean the matchup didnt matter
matchup = look at team and see who wins specifically regardless of sync ect
How many teams a team can win and lose against is what settles the deal.
Thats why Keripo leads.
You said "most" important
Not really, its important but not most important
keripo almost lost! 
i mean even keripo can lose to matchup rng, looking at the team matchups is still most important
especially when it comes to cheering
Laplace skipped blanc
u can increase your averages when building your team but it all comes down to what fights what
Cspeed saved ur ass
and rng def/atk
and none of that is changeable from some1 cheering
we have that info for cheering
#blessed
Ok Trina indom is funny
Saw that ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
U know u won cus u brought Rouge right?
round 2 (iโm left), how cooked am i
Now thats what I call matchup rng
That'd be @quick lake I believe he made my teams
But its not really the "most" important
It is important however
Team building is still most important of course
when it comes to cheering u literally just look at the teams
what some1 has put/will put has no meaning to us currently
u gonna progress further than me 
No, I mean for team building
its cheer arena atm 
U were talking about cheers?
U didnt specify
man i cant look at cindy crying seriously
Rail thinks this will be my next match
it just looked too funny
not even going to think about team building ca until next CA season tbh cuz cant change teams 
w l l ? ? (seems like w l l l ?)
Is ur Noir maxhealth higher than sbs
Looks like first 2 match is a win for u
I know whats gonna happen there. Rapunzel overhealed SBS, Noir took Indom, SBS dies. 
End of the line @graceful grotto 
iโm just glad i surprise in top 64 hahahaha
my 3RL SBS actually nuke the 2RL scarlet wtf lmao
No
My next match depends on whether I can 1 wave kill with Cindy 
sigh, end of the line for me too
like i thought bad matchup
you got pretty far tho 
which one are you? top or bottom
Probably but maybe...... Rapunzel stole indom in first round
Top
ye. Still got chance. But seems small
I would bet against me 
lose lose 50/50 (pray their cindy only ticks til noah) win 50/50 (pray their rosanna under-invested)
join us on the bench, it's warm and comfy 
howโs ur verse team?
Mmmmmmmmk
I figure XMaiden> S.Anis in this case. If both Scarlet died and you burst with xmAiden vs S.Anis, Anis would be instantly clapped...
eh sorry wait
You've said lose on 3 and @unique wagon said lose on 5 so we'll see odds are still not good
Gonna be very close. Probably gonna lose too 
- Lose, but I believe in magic that Noir gets indom, not Alice.
So, unknown. - Lose guaranteed.
- Luck dependent.
- Depends if Noir steals indom. If yes, lose. Otherwise, win.
- Luck dependent and Rosanna invest dependent.
u never know, iโve been imagine myself not winning since bracket round lmao
honestly iโm kinda surprise with the results
edited my earlier comment
that 1 going to be his loss lol, alice/noir linked
@graceful grotto i'm dead too...
so lets say their noir take indom
THEY CHANGED MY CHEERING GROUP

what was all that preparation for lmao
you just pray you get ATK side then lol @coarse solstice

same for me:
i cant choose garix anymore
I'm 100% sure Noir will steal indom.
Nope Naga Alice linked I checked the match
huh? their naga and alice linked?
AW HELL NAH BRO MY FATE IN SOMEONE'S HNAD
wtf mother of invest is that
What what?
THATS ME
Who should I bet on?
Tbh, odds are in your favor, so cheer yourself.
oh right cuz 0lb noir
yeah just cheer yourself man
if you dont have faith in youreslf, who else will
idk i always bet on my opponent because i have no self confidence
if i fail in life i woudl just kill myself brah
don't bet on me
plz dont say that
Rosanna not dolled yet, so don't think it's that invested.
u might actually get discord trust & safety'd
Which one is you?
clueless
Also I think your Noir might steal your indom as well.
the right one
just saying man, has happened to me 
real RNG believers will be investing in SG units after this CA 
-can mess up indoms
-can outdps early
-can fk up lineups in general
-RNG based on atk/def
Dude their team has sg units I cannot win I'll just lose
c5 dr. pepper makes her appearance? 
Worse yet, my cindy team is completely useless because of the placement
Yurification?
Hello nice to meet you too
what a jungle 
ya
He is an instigator and drama maker bro. Ignore him.
can't we cheer again?
Last time it was Rapunzel....
oh wait is he that guy
So I am betting left then
Yeah bet left is the way
idk buddy i dont spend much time here anymore 

i quit the game and only came back for 1 season of CA
im out again 
Which guy?
My Team 1 has bad placement, they have a SG team
for CA on the cheer screen, is left player defending and right player attacking?
You will win
The best I will win is 2 out of 5
are u lovemos?
Not necessarily. Just check match. Bottom = attack, top = defend.
His Rosana matchup
No like, statistically I CANNOT win, look at my team
i see, thanks
I know jack about PVP
I put filler on my team 4/5
If team 1 dies I lose instantly and with cindy giving away 1.5x burst gen you are going to lose your bet
Put it on the other guy
@unique wagon here's his Rosana match
Yes it was nice bout with you, but im also losing the next one 
RL removed concealment. Against Scarlet it's different cus Crown fu- herself.
Meh OK
wait a second arent you global
Dont think its invested. Dont see a huge bar jump when Rapu died.
is it just me or is blanc dead indom happening more often in champ
How tf are you able to vote in my NA bracket
already saw 2 vids where it happened
60 40 against you
Its all down to charge speed.
Yeah it's clear
YOU ARE LITERALLY WATCHING CHAMPS ARENA FOR PEOPLE WHO INVEST IN PVP 
? what does that have to do with cs
Too much rng in the mechanics
ca final will be F2P member anyway
Blanc hitting indom faster?
If I got my team 1 fixed I'll consistently win into finals
My team 1 isnt so it'll be a 80% I lose from here onwards
Why didn't you?
I'm talking about stuff like p1 dying to autos but still getting indom
Wdym
Because I didnt know that, because I forgot
Need context
p1 blanc can die to autoattack and that team still can get indom
Because I'm a subhuman troglodyte
dafuq imagine having to bet on this one 
MF T4 and T5 is a RNG feast
tf did he just wasted a team on t5
right
left
left
right
god knows
that's the most blatant dead indom I've seen
how do we change cheer match?
could someone help me cook some def team
Team 1 left can win with enough cs
The second match SBS will lose.
damn. iโll say (in left perspective), L? W W L L
zixk lose?
intended behaviour still going strong and never got fixed cuz it's intended 
they put sbs and cindy on the team 5 i don't know how is that gonna help
Any recommendations for SP DEF please?
if dead indom has a chance of happening I'm always just gonna expect it to happen
Third match, the left guy also lose.
Oh thats just indom application delay no
Where is the first image from?
any unit in the fight dies = rosanna on both team increases burst meter
yes, but I've never seen it happen from just raw dmg that isn't even splash
i just got told by merry that SBS can win those matchups on the other hand 
It all boils down to timing
third match it's 2RL lethal vs 3RL RH B3, won't even hit indom
ah yes, the CS% that i can totally know about pre betting 
Well, 1 buff SBS vs 3 healers, She can win if she had very good investment and the other team being shit. 
indom sbs
Yeah. She need to be indom so she could even fight the healer...
but yeah, depends on their sbs invest, if it was my SBS in that place i would be cocksure confident i would win
my new cheering rule of thumb: whomever has the better invested moran and rosanna wins their matches

yeah gg
gg for which side
shoot I forgot to save the site
My bad, I mean 4th match
I will continue betting on myself. Even if I lose 
if i bet on you and you lose?
how many shots you drink for me? 
Can anyone help on my prediction please? I'm on the left, will be the defending team
Pretty sure it's L L ? W W, really not sure about team 3 though
example: who wins here
Lose
Win
Win
Lose
While I think Rosanna might get hit by SBS S1, this likely wins just because it's faster.
3RL Moran+ Rapipi vs 4RL Ein? It won't be even close...

top top bottom likelybottom godbless
aint even gonna try to figure out burst speeds... eyeball test says bottom
on top perspective
W
W
L
50/50
L
crow there is a insta bet against even if a lose 
can someone build me a team for sp arena
what are the SR5 "worth" pvp nikkes?
now every theorycrafter in this channel has become fortune teller
this isnt new tbh
its mostly just because CA so everyones hyped/excited
i remember the good old days when residual targetting was still a big problem somehow
and zixk/merry/myself/mishiro were debating over who would get residual'd
that 50/50 jackal rapu trina are all 70K-ish
blanc sbs rapu biscuit centi
rrh blanc alice trina jackal
grave helm noir naga liter (temp CP pad)
wishlist:
-rumani, noah, cinderella, scarlet
it's my current DEF
Noise & Noah mostly
scarlet trina n102 anis jackal there's your 1 team
- win
- win
- lose
- T4 what is this team positioning? Iffy
- You ask?
so basically tanks who benefit from damage reduction, and the rest can chill with SR0 dolls
Jackal P1 then Rapu P2 
noise, noah
if u plan to build her, then moran as well
Yep! Ur tanks definitely. Depends on how far u wanna go with pvp, but arguably u can aim for everyone SR5 tbh
No
i would say jackal and rumani helps as well
Some units want SR 15 dolls more but its not always tanks
jackal since she normally tank SG
Yeah jackal too
rumani only after her burst
Scarlet, Noise, Noah, Jackal
Like SAnis wants SR 15
ahem rosanna for example kewk
yeah most dps need SR15
your teams are fine as is, unless they broke your defense don't change them, else run these
And your SG units too to kill faster
SR5 them all 
And then there are units who u want to avoid overdolling like 
okay, so apart from the obvious (dps), minimally sr5 these:
prio1: noise, noah, jackal, biscuit, blanc
prio2: rumani, centi
prio3: anis, rapunzel
for pvp-only units, i would work in that order
how is overdolling a thing?
Reason is Rapu stun is meta 
because u only have finite resources
and if u overdoll one, thats less resources to more important things
also rapunzel stun if her hp is low enough
real alpha will SR5 soda kewk
hi
like myself, Mpriv too
Overdoll can also lead to unwanted indom targeting
Rapun and Bay possibly
But that's still pretty fringe. Just SR5 the regular units it would be fine
here's the two players i can bet on this round:

can u help me figure out who wins?
that said i will also say dont worry about this too much
in most realistic situations, its not going to make a big difference - refer to keripo's testing
yeah, just SR15 everyone 
Ah yes let me skew the left one up because the bigger the stronger 
yeah, sadly is starting to crack. I'll test these out thanks!
are you elysiaelia? 
srry... im newbie to photo stuff...
jesus its been a while
L L 50/50 L W, i would say team 2 would win
i dunno what is 3RL 3.5RL mean
speed of burst
What are my chances (i'm right)
lower is better
2RL is about the fastest team you can make, opponents can make you go quicker than 2RL with bad comps
so consider 3RL fairly normal, and 2/2.5RL a bit quicker
can rapun SR 15 tank 4 SG on 2.5 RL team 
W ? W L W
I should really check the teams before I go cheering all my credits away ๐
If I win current CA round, I face a Sync 290 commander 300 servers before mine, I'm sync 250... at least I can bet for my opponent
I was just following wisdom of the crowd, turns out crowd is wrong
ty i think i can prob catch scarlet burst with noah on 2nd match
So true~ Synchro/CP doesn't mean a thing in CA
everyone sync to 400 this doesn't matter
only thing that matters is unit investment and comps
being 300 servers ahead of me feels like they'd have better gear
they may, they may not...
which they do lol x.x
Very high chance actually, I would bet on you.
but if they have dumb comps you can still win
bruh pvp channel looking like general nikke chat now
For burst gen is one bullet one percent with jackal?
Right (although I know how left can possibly win here)
Right
Hmm
Right
Right
ill send ur prediction to the guy im voting on!
any 2 cents?
1-2-5 left wins
what determines which side you take in the matches anyway? if you take attacker or defender position?
using welfare rapunzel, daring aren't we
Rng
I mean there isn't really a concept of attack/defender here, or there shouldn't be
it's one team vs another
there should be no difference
my moran team would like to be defender
W W L L W? imo
Having a SG team on defense is a perk. U can see your opponent's P5 then P4 get obliterated
in 2~3 sec
basically the same as me
was going to go for n102 for mroe damage but after a couple rounds of testing the different wasnt big enough to matter so i went for a bit mroe stats and less likely to die

team 5 is tricky, basically right will burst first, but if blanc indo bsoda, left will prolly take the win
ein blanc rh noir jackal
centi biscuit reiT rrh xmaiden
alice sbs liter crown cind (temp CP pad)
cubes:
quantum on jackal, centi, xmaiden
vigor on blanc, biscuit
any other nikke run highest lvl cube
notes:
-scarlet in synchro, build her to 7/4/7, R15 or SR5, 4OL
-helm in synchro, treasure her, build her to 10/10/4 or 10/10/7, else as battery 10/4/4
-wishlist noah
-build CP on rumani, noise, trina, jackal, centi, biscuit
get your teams reviewed once the above are ready
any thoughts?
what is this website
give this a 5 min read if you're unfamiliar with arena mechanics, highly suggested
https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/
RL jargon attached in SS
alright thanks for the advice, seems like i have alot of homework to do
- T1: Left wins.
- T2: Right wins.
- T3: Right wins.
- T4: Right wins.
- T5: Left wins.
Create and share a GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE deck
Should check out the Nikke Burst generation chart too
take ur time, you won't get them ready within a day afterall
Is my Trina equiped for PVP or should I try and get her MAxed?
for top 64, top is attacking, bottom is defending
idk about 32 or elemination league, my guess left is attacking right is defending
Any progress on CA? Unless i wont open my game
4OL, doll R15 or SR5, 4/7/7 for scarlet, 4/4/7 for cindy
Wait nvm left wins.
The loading is superrrrrrr longgg
next match is currently ongoing, you can sleep for 21+hrs
Id vote for right.
i dunno why blanc in 2 teams
Thanks
@tropic summit whats the chances i win ? (im ASUKA)
Not sure how u think T2 left will win, but I guess it depends on charge speed if both are 2 RL.
I dont think unbuffed Helm can nuke a link tho but who knows crit?
well we had the same initial reactions
but everyone told me bay > that scarlet team HARD
i saw the vid and that helm team cooked
copy paste error, fixed:
Not when Trina RH buffed, but LaplaceTr might kill Trina.
Should I reroll my CEnti? And focus only on charge speed?
Dont invest in PvP.
I think I may have a chance unless the CP gap from the gears kill me (me left)
Ok im tired
then i saw this
CP mattered too if you need that CP to get to CA in the first place.
how the f the team on the left survivedf so far 
true sacc believers
she is maxed even on OL. So the speed might be what I wanted to try and improve.
my team or the other guy ? XD
It's different.
- CS.
- Helm critted here.
- Red Hood is a spare P3+.
Bay at her best
Trade Offer! Scarlet super duper power fully buffed Nuke for her cover
I think Noise Bay will win just because Trina is in P2 and fu- herself.
he went against bots 
I think this relies too much on who attacks/defends ?
@fathom rock i made it thru bro, what you think of my next two rounds
Am I cooking?
No.
lemme check
bruh i want my 1.4m credits again
Is Crust a good pvp unit?
all other teams ar clear cut its just the bay team
No.
Bro just cheer 1 credit.

just stalk their bla
T1 abomination
T2 unbuffed scarlet will tickle
T3 too slow
damn its gonna be close
Lmao bro wants to stalk cspeed values 
I always give up on T1
Why dont u do it instead
im replying to this
Just take a look at what dolls the units use
not enough to decide, would need to know OLs
Dis better?
maybe the investments will do the job ?
turn scarlet team into:
-Scarlet blanc alice anis jackal
other team is still too slow, use
okay
What is the reverse Blanc team building
It's more than capable since it's 2700% damage to 3 units
Yeah that surely can only mean something.
i was commeting about that earlier, it seems this dude won his bracket against 3 other bots afterall 
any pvp expert here on this round 

Kisenix, stop trolling people
Hurry and make a CA guide already 
I like the chances of right side more
I think the Right side has a higher chance of winning
double buff harran nuke 
@quick lake
prob lose, rng, win, win, rng?
right side is most likely winning t1, t3 and t4
close enough 
t2 can go for anyone
T1 : free-est win of all matches in pvp seriously tho wth is that comp 
T2 : stalking your last match i can see your cindy 2rl for sure, invest heavy fighting but they more likely to win
T3 : win if rossana invested enough
T4 : i honestly have not a single clue how this will go 
Will ask around that
T5 : win if their sg dont go for emi, otherwise they have a chance
Coinflip arena at its finest
Let me guess before looking.
Win
Loss
Win
Loss(?) Win(?)
Loss
Damn im wrong
I guess Emi got indomed

Sir u said 2nd team win idk what ure thinking about
doesn't left side have almost no burst gen?
@tropic summit
Jin : Sr nero/sr15 moran/r quiry/sr rapunzel/helmT p3
Vs
Seph : sr moran/sr biscuit/sr15 sbs/sr centi/no doll anis
Does seph win this or can nero moran survive sbs 
for T1 yes, the rest of the teams are within 3RL
Its literally 3 RL Cindy vs 2 RL Scarlet
On which part of Earth do you think left will win
why did you give left the win then 
considering the invest and aggro priority on nero, nero moran should win
revive and rosanna
Jin wins just because he can stall longer and have 2nd B3
@lunar pawn
rosanna will kill, on both sides:
-scarlet and mana
-scarlet and noir
which leaves:
-on left side xmaiden on indom
-on right side xmaiden on trina buff, no indom

mmm
Dont make stall teams without 2nd B3
good play
@hushed kelp you eating good this season
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