pvp-arena

[lone sequoia]

yep

[tropic summit]

surprise surprise

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit should've played 1 day earlier to be with us

[tropic summit]

you should've contacted me when i wasn't even yet on discord

[lone sequoia]

first x sub-servers then the next wave is for the 2nd league

[lunar dirge]

the whaling continues

[valid fern]

I saw a few emilias in my league but i started during 2.5 anni

[coarse lake]

can someone who isn't in champ click on league and screenshot the popup

[unique mountain]

Ca launched to much fanfare in nikke in march of 2025

[placid bloom]

unlucky

[fathom rock]

Acc creation date but the player count is big enough to group players with a decent gap in time

[ornate spoke]

hold on

we cant even watch numbers go up?

[valid fern]

2.5 anni was crown right? I started whenever crown was released

[tropic summit]

wrong game, this is AFK arena

[ornate spoke]

never played it lol

[vapid lake]

so when does the fighting start

[tropic summit]

[pastel owl]

there is a bot in every 3 to 4 group

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit What can beat noah/sbs with 510k cp?

[pastel owl]

some group even hv 2 bots

[valid fern]

Imagine getting CP diffed by bots

[fathom rock]

Noah biscuit emi same speed as enemy

[pastel owl]

🤖 v🤖

[tropic summit]

that's too general, CP depends on what YOU can run, "noah SBS" is too general of a team, we need to know their RL speed to make a plan

[swift mango]

Need to check for myself then. Other showed me that I was grouped with 3 other of same CP. If similar creation date then good.

But I guess the group being difference, it included 64 group of 4 people? I remember my guildmates said we were of same group although in different group of 4.

Anyway, 2 of my union mates having different account creation date of 6 months but in same group.

[tropic summit]

6 months apart and in same group? dafuq

[placid bloom]

probably the older you are the more it's merged. New player is mostly within 2-3 month range

[swift mango]

Need to open the game to check for myself then.

[pastel owl]

not hard to imagine 160 walled newer players lose to bots cause dont have 5 teams

[warm monolith]

Well its noah/biscuit/sbs/tlaplace/rap (510k) and i made noah/cindy/naga/centi/rumani (418k) against it but im low on cp and i was wondering if i should swap centi with thelm (472k cp with she)

[fathom rock]

But its locked at 400

[placid bloom]

160 wall cannot enter

[tropic summit]

that's plain ridicolous matching 6 months apart players, that's 180 krakens more

[swift mango]

We are all newer players. Less than synch 421.

[pastel owl]

hv to use SR units againt SSR bots

[placid bloom]

unlucky

[swift mango]

The 6 months diff was between a 401 guy and 301 guy.

[pastel owl]

is there such a rule? i recall <160 can do sp

[tropic summit]

why you want to run cindy, who's a nuke oriented nikke, against same speed anti nuke?

[lone sequoia]

that depends in the sub-server and sync range for the league you are in, earlier accounts will have similar power because lv400 and playtime but later leagues will have big gaps because the investment, not many new accounts so not new sub-servers

[placid bloom]

min lv200 and 25 Nikke even if you made top 4

so 160 wall cannot participate at all

[unique mountain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1040682768104960112/1354800328448540782/195b3766bb579d73.gif

[warm monolith]

Couldnt i burst faster than them,should i replace cindy with sbs?

[unique mountain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1332018768511107083/1339123795713200148/1739329673885430.gif

[swift mango]

It should be the other way around. New accounts are more in quantity than old account. Wtf.

[tropic summit]

why you use SBS against noah + biscuit?

[warm monolith]

Idk what to do if im being honest

[tropic summit]

yep i could tell...

[warm monolith]

Then what can beat noah/sbs

[tropic summit]

1. noah is anti nuke
2. noah + biscuit negate distributed dmg

you were going to run both things that get negated

make sure you learned that

[swift mango]

If there are more old active account than new active account then game EoS in 2 years.

[lone sequoia]

sp reshuffle+ sp brackets, only 4 account in each bracket can play CA

[tropic summit]

noah + biscuit negates SBS dmg, you can add a backstab type B3 (s.anis) or a delayed nuke (emilia) or you can go 2RL scar-trina to prevent them from even B3ing

[placid bloom]

Noah/Biscuit tends to be slower team, you can try fast nuke

[swift mango]

Yes, there are more bracket at lower level not the other way around.

[placid bloom]

but it depends, HelmT can speed it up significantly so you have to see the rest of the team

[swift mango]

Otherwise, game EoS in 2 years.

[warm monolith]

Should i skip against that team since i dont have sanis emilia and trina?

[tropic summit]

well seems like a good decision

[lone sequoia]

is like comparing 2 buckets, one is full and the other is only half

[tropic summit]

you could go 2RL helmT sinpe though

[unique wagon]

What u guys talking about

[placid bloom]

you can also try to outlast them with Blanc but there is a lot that can go wrong because SBS proc targeting lowest def

so you have to build in a way that SBS doesn't ruin Blanc target

[tropic summit]

@warm monolith something like this

[swift mango]

The half one is the old players group. And that is generous.

[tropic summit]

you should be killing either SBS or laplace depending on who's highest atk%, probably sbs tho

then laplace casts B3 into noah who's invulnerable and you slowly kill them off

[unique wagon]

You want to know?

[restive willow]

Rosanna is pretty straight forward tbh. Scarlet dead means no full burst

[warm monolith]

So im going against another team that is scarlet/blanc/rosanna/trina/jackal (470k) against noah/biscuit/sbs/rumani/thelm (408k) but idk how to position them,also i dont have rh,please

[unique wagon]

If ur ros doesnt get stunned

[tropic summit]

i don't remember your box by memory

[warm monolith]

@unique wagon

[restive willow]

Rosanna S1 will wipe at about 1.3RL timing

[warm monolith]

Okay but is there a replacement for her i can do? Or should i skip to this team instead?

[unique wagon]

Are u assuming its 1 RL

[restive willow]

Even if she gets stunned I just need to hit scarlet strong enough before 3RL time with normal hits

[tropic summit]

the team is right but use your head first before asking, how and why would you place them

this is where you learn

[restive willow]

1.3RL is when the invincibility disappears. Stun happens at 2RL (or slightly earlier) against 2 units. If I can kill the Scarlet before 3RL (slightly earlier) when scarlet uses burst, it's all ok

[unique wagon]

Yeah but the stun.

[restive willow]

Soda doesn't stun the entire team

[unique wagon]

So ure gonna gamble

[restive willow]

There are multiple units in the team to do normal hits smh

[unique wagon]

[restive willow]

Soda will always stun the 1st slot

So it's actually 1/4 chance if you are doing the b1 gamble, but even then you're assuming you want to kill scarlet with b1

[tropic summit]

unless taunted, it's actually 2 random units

[restive willow]

The random doesn't actually work random

[warm monolith]

Well,noah first because of shield and rumani on last so she gets at least a bit less dmg. I dont remember where to place thelm since i want her to get rosanna nuked but i dont remember who will rosanna nuke depends on where she placed and team combinations,it was long and its kinda hard to remember exactly all of them so i need to take a photo of it. I also saw somewhere that opponent nikkes attack our team depends on their weapon type,like enemy noah targetting first nikke on my team as an example but i lost the photo of it,idk if its real or not tho

I guess noah/biscuit/sbs/thelm/rumani or sbs and biscuit other way around?

[restive willow]

I don't recall any fixes to the Soda mechanics, so unless there was a major sp arena change recently, soda random means what she's targeting + 1 more random

of course, with how much SU is changing arena mechanics, it might be different now, who knows

[warm monolith]

Though,even if i form this team my opponents last team is noise/rumani/centi/cindy/thelm (490k) and i need noah on there too only not if there is other way around

[tropic summit]

targeting:

1. when attacking, all enemy units target p1, minus enemy shotguns that target p5. Allied units that are sniper rifle will target p5
2. when you're getting attacked, the opponent will run into the same

noah positioning in p1:

-biscuit casts s2 on defender units that hit 50% hp threshold, this allows your p1 to be invulnerable when it matters

rosanna targeting in-depth:

#pvp-arena message

the TL;DR: she targets first 2 attackers first come first served

[coarse lake]

I'm fairly sure I saw a p3 soda before that didn't stun p1

[restive willow]

Also slightly more targeting rule, AR and SMG tend to target p5 initially but they slide to p1 as they attack

[lone sequoia]

yep, all random

[tropic summit]

as the skill description, it's random unless taunted

[lone sequoia]

and taunt in def doesn't work

[restive willow]

When did that change

[tropic summit]

when you attack, enemy SG target p5, your SR target p5
when you defend, same happens to the attacker

[restive willow]

Well, as with pretty much everything in arena, so I guess a useless question

I know

[tropic summit]

sauce: https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

[restive willow]

AR and SMG also have weird "sliding" behavior at times

[tropic summit]

AR and SMG target p1 unless taunted

[warm monolith]

I understand but what is TL and DR?

[tropic summit]

it's summarized for what you need to know

[stone iris]

I can't seem to fight in CA...

[tropic summit]

because you can't, it's auto

[restive willow]

Yes they target p1 but they don't lock onto p1 at the very beginning. They look at p5 and then slide over to p1

[lone sequoia]

also, rh is a specific case, weapon change allow units to change target+ rh normal attacks also swap targets sometimes

[stone iris]

Oooooooo

[tropic summit]

what are you smoking

[stone iris]

I can't make attacking teams??? That's annoying

[tropic summit]

that's SR not AR and SMG

[restive willow]

This

[unique wagon]

Translation Doctor jk Too Long Dont Read

[restive willow]

Yes exactly my point

I don't know what the disagreement is

[tropic summit]

how does that matter in your equation is what i'm trying to understand

[lone sequoia]

what was the question?

[tropic summit]

[warm monolith]

Let me try real quick

[restive willow]

I presume you were summarizing targeting mechanics, so the AR and SMG behavior was not trivial

[unique wagon]

Lmao whoever arranged their teams properly will win

[restive willow]

Although at this point the original question is lost lol

[restive willow]

All luck based

[unique wagon]

Nah I think Team 1 vs 1, etc.

[stone iris]

So does team 1 fight team 1?

[tropic summit]

it's indeed RNG based on whether your team gets countered or not

[restive willow]

Yeah, luck as in if your team 1 matches horribly with enemy team 1 you're SOL no matter what, for example

[lone sequoia]

pray for crits

[placid bloom]

it's luck as in you predicted everyone else's team order better and dodge the harder matchups until finals

[unique wagon]

Some people might have set up expecting the defense team to be an attack team as well and set it to counter common Team 1-5 combination orders.

[tropic summit]

exactly this

[lone sequoia]

that was my plan...

[unique wagon]

Because most common T1 is now Scarlet and T2 is Cindy though not always.

[lone sequoia]

T3 a noah or sanis team

[stone iris]

I think my cooking is pretty bad ...

[unique wagon]

And T5 is some random ahh mf.

[coarse lake]

that's what I did

[unique wagon]

T4 Moran Bay or Blanc SBS or whatever

[coarse lake]

bc there was no harm in prepping for it

[lone sequoia]

t5 full glass cannon

[coarse lake]

my t5 is my lowest cp and my worst team, as a throw against cp diff

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit is rosanna targetting depends on enemy attacker or our teams or both? Im cureently reading it

[coarse lake]

or to annihilate cp diff teams if there's no cp diff

[restive willow]

They should shuffle the matchups for more chaos lol

[swift mango]

If auto battle, who will attack and who will defense.

[unique wagon]

Nah then sac is best

[lone sequoia]

that was my T1 against scarlet full p1 pressure

[unique wagon]

B3 B2 Rosanna B2 B3

Works on atk and defense

[coarse lake]

prob 1 fight each way

[unique wagon]

[coarse lake]

whoever auto attack wins more wins the matchup

[lone sequoia]

unless they didn't make teams to fight SG

[tropic summit]

meanwhile in my group scarlet teams are all in different orders

[unique wagon]

DrakeTr Viper Rosanna something BSoda

[pastel owl]

nah it can draw if fight both ways

[unique wagon]

Easiest solution

[coarse lake]

draw will be decided by other factors, there is no draw allowed

[placid bloom]

just 1 round Bo5 with no attacker/defender advantage

[unique wagon]

You win on attack and on defense

[tropic summit]

i think it's both, you do 15 attacks and 15 defenses

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit Do rosanna nuke depends on enemy attackers placement or ours?

[upper grove]

tactical

[unique wagon]

Both

[pastel owl]

i bet it just rng atk/def

[tropic summit]

keep reading, merry's post i linked to you is very clear

[placid bloom]

single round robin eliminates any ties because even if 2 players end 2/1, one of them will have lost to the other

[unique wagon]

HEY AT LEAST NOW U CAN MAKE CORRECT PREDICTIONS

Based on lineup

[vapid lake]

yes the matchfixing cartels will have a field day farming credits with this system let's go

[coarse lake]

yeah true

[unique wagon]

If u get perfect 64/64 prediction ure a pvp maestro

[tropic summit]

i'd rather have cooked as usual

[vapid lake]

let me join

[swift mango]

Gotta build 5 SG team for next CA and hope I don't get biscuit or Cindy p5.

[upper grove]

If I can see the cp stats ez predictions

[coarse lake]

oh, this way the participants can bet too, wow....

[tropic summit]

the true gacha experience right there

[unique wagon]

You still cant predict now can u

[coarse lake]

it was betting arena all along, ppl make teams, then everyone bets

[pastel owl]

server put ur sg into atk side

[swift mango]

People make team and bets.

[vapid lake]

cheer arena is right

[upper grove]

I only used 2 SG this time, should have gone all in

[unique wagon]

U have to simulate Player 1 vs 2 3 4

On attack and on defense, calc total wine

[swift mango]

Should have keep my Sugar instead of DKW CP pad. @raven plover

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit i read it,correct me if im mistaken .so thelm should be on P5 to handle rossanna nuke? So my team should be noah(shield and biscuit buff)/biscuit/sbs/rumani/thelm(handle rossanna nuke) ?

[unique wagon]

Nah u guys shud have used Makima in P3

Skill issue

[swift mango]

Cindy p1 ultra instinct

[unique wagon]

No, just run DrakeTr Pepper Makima B1 BSoda

On attack, ur BSoda and B1 dies but u still full burst

On defense, DrakeTr and Pepper dies but u still full burst

That Makima be a giant wall of china

[swift mango]

Nah 5 SG without B1.

[unique wagon]

Will get stuck in Makima anyways

Rosanna is best tho I alr called it out no one listened

[swift mango]

Okay Makima p5 so we win defense

[eager mountain]

The railgpt is looking closer to reality

[unique wagon]

Nah use Rosanna win both

[swift mango]

Rossana still stuck on Makima all the same.

[unique wagon]

Wdym

Rosanna B1 sir

Kills 2 immediately with 2-3 deaths

You know Rosanna gains gen with enemy's deaths as well?

[warm monolith]

Rosanna P3-> shoot at P5 if->P5 attacker->all ded (helm was attacker,i didnt know that

[swift mango]

Rossana ain't one shoot unless half hp or Water.

[unique wagon]

Sir she gains atk buff from deaths

U literally forgot that part of her skill smh

[swift mango]

Well, she does. But you need deaths in the first place.

[unique wagon]

Which SGs do a lot?

Bruu

[worn field]

??

[swift mango]

Well, you could get biscuit, Moran, Makima, Cindy or even Enma. 'ed

[worn field]

she one shots attacker units at 400 tho ?

[swift mango]

Not with SR doll, tempering and no sacc.

Maybe if your Core max and they only MLB...

[stone iris]

my rosanna is so weak she cant even kill a RH with max SR doll

and I think i have 42% att rolls

[vapid lake]

TWO
YEARS
FOR
THIS

[coarse lake]

that's expected

[worn field]

i still one shot even with dolls

[swift mango]

Maybe they are lower core than you or you crited/Ele advantage.

[stone iris]

zixk do you think i have a shot in my bracket?

i think im cooked

[worn field]

no idea

i dont really care much atm

im dead too anyway cause merry is in my bracket

[placid bloom]

1 win frame gang

[worn field]

i was the lowest cp for like 2 years lol

[sudden drift]

participant frame gang

whats those things they used to give out when we were kids? participation ribbons?

[placid bloom]

stickers

[swift mango]

Imma core 7 my Rossanna soon, just need 8 more copies.

[worn field]

and candies

[valid fern]

Solo raiders STAY WINNING with their superior elemental OL lines

[pale knoll]

[valid fern]

man im glad I never bothered to invest in Rossana for this shitfest of a mode

[warm monolith]

Should i use naga or centi against this team? Enemy cp is 490k and with naga 460k if centi its 400k for me,if i can burst fast enough to not get ded i can win? And idk what this means in photo

[lunar pawn]

I like how CA has 0 relevance and nobody can do anything to change matchups or upcoming results, but people are still posting matchups here, calculating burst speed, just to see if they make it or not

[tropic summit]

what do you mean you don't know what this photo means?

[pale knoll]

I was about to on my accs, thankfully I didn't either

[lunar pawn]

you don't know what RL means?

[valid fern]

im gonna be losing to an Exia team

Exia

[warm monolith]

I dont know why jackal burst speed in first photo is in a square and rrh in second team

[nocturne steeple]

Most CA arena brackets though will have people who just auto placed their stuff and didn’t even edit team 4/5. If people focus on PvP, it’s likely they’ll be fine.

[valid fern]

it turns out Reddit was right. Waifu > Meta

[tropic summit]

it's the burst gen threshold you're hitting

2RL is faster than 2.5RL or 3RL and so on
3RL is slower than 2RL but faster than 4RL

it helps you understand if you will nuke first or for last

on a scarlet team trying to kill a noah team, being 2RL means you nuke before 3RL noah can cast shield

[coarse lake]

this team gonna be fun for anyone else to deal with, 850k decent team from resident poseidon

[lunar pawn]

the lower the RL, the faster you'll burst

[past marsh]

waiting for the theoretical 1RL team cooking

[lunar pawn]

possible, just attack someone with cindy in p1

[placid bloom]

if you get 1RL speed it's not because you're good it's because they're bad

[warm monolith]

So either way im the last to burst? Should i change teams or should i go with centi one even if i still a little back(60k less cp tho)

[valid fern]

ironically the only advantage for us pvpers is in betting since we're familiar with mechanics and matchups. it really was cheer arena all along.

[placid bloom]

actually how are they gonna decide which league you get to bet on is it also account creation date

[oblique magnet]

nooo, i'm against at least 1 dolphin, and bottom looks like a whale

[sudden drift]

why would RH and Cindy be lower CP here? wouldn't either of them have more black lines than the other 3?

[oblique magnet]

besides the whale, they did a good job sorting by CP, lol

[coarse lake]

idk, my cindy is higher cp than theirs

[placid bloom]

it's sort by commander lv

the whale just lazy to clear campaign for higher outpost

[oblique magnet]

oooo, interesting

[worn field]

prob cubes

or console hmm

[coarse lake]

dude's not a campaign malder either

sync 485 and in hard mode 26

[oblique magnet]

so basically, whales who don't do campaign will have the advantage in CA, lol

[coarse lake]

so casual leviathan/poseidon

[placid bloom]

no, it's account creation date matchmaking

[sudden drift]

imagine rolling for optimal lines for jackal and noise

[worn field]

eh im higher sync and im slacking

[stone iris]

im forever stuck on hard 32-16 until i get better with snipers

[worn field]

some do roll for def lines

[placid bloom]

def ammo cs black line

[lone sequoia]

cs/ele

[swift mango]

First I need to play on pc

[sudden drift]

ofc i know, but i mean to the extent that they spend more on those vs DPS units

[modest summit]

What cube for Cindy in arena ? I saw the pin that said healing cube ?

[worn field]

yeah im one of those but its cs

[placid bloom]

vigor not heal

[coarse lake]

they prob just ran with initial lines on most units, and got lucky with the pvp ones

[worn field]

or any pvp malder

[coarse lake]

looking at his other teams, dude isn't a pvp malder

[worn field]

pve cube

[lone sequoia]

keripo didn't fix cindy cube?

[worn field]

or quantum

[coarse lake]

rupee is his highest cp

just a casual poseidon

[modest summit]

This the cube for Cindy in the Google sheet

[placid bloom]

that's vigor, not healing

[modest summit]

Im in game right now and that exact cube is called Healing

[swift mango]

If that guy is Poseidon what make this guy be.

[placid bloom]

they put wrong pic then

[sudden drift]

well CA has taught me two things. no more spending willy nilly on this, and that leviathans with fu money have no or dgaf about game mechanics

[placid bloom]

vigor is max HP, also green

[modest summit]

That would make a lot more sense lol

[coarse lake]

poseidon's dad

[placid bloom]

ping Keripo, tell him to fix cube pic on spreadsheet

[fallow bolt]

[oblique magnet]

is crusty pvp meta?

[coarse lake]

no

[swift mango]

If 12 black line, max core and max recycle room, yes.

[oblique magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-whale-drinking-water-shark-whale-gif-26204603

[coarse lake]

whaled out crust about to bury opponents in food

[oblique magnet]

i'm glad i can save. only at 25k gems, lol

[fading pecan]

So i see my group in champ arena, am I supposed to do something now lol

[swift mango]

Pray

[coarse lake]

find the poseidon that will win your bracket if cp diff exists

[valid fern]

already found the one guy with 3 cp teams. he gon win it all, mechanics be damned.

well i guess cp diff is a mechanic afterall

the best one

[stone iris]

even at a cp deficit if his team cant burst then there might be a small chance

[oblique magnet]

i don't know how common Depado is as a name, but if they're the same as the one in my bracket... they let it rain 💰

[placid bloom]

yes but you can also dodge him until finals and you still get the finals frame

just need god RNG

[coarse lake]

only team that has a chance is a biscuit defender one

the 4 others gonna be blown up by autos

[placid bloom]

yours kinda close except that 4th dude

[oblique magnet]

i'm in your SP bracket, lol

[fading pecan]

Lool

[oblique magnet]

but i won't tell you who i am

[fading pecan]

Glglgl my bunny soda and rumani are not built

And i didnt have mana or bay ready

[valid fern]

check your group 2. I think im there lol

[fading pecan]

So i just yolod some teams

[coarse lake]

part of me is hoping cp diff exists, so I can stop pvp invest altogether and start prepping for siren

[fading pecan]

Dang you are in the same one

[swift mango]

I could have used Mana but her CP too low.

[oblique magnet]

we are enemies

[fading pecan]

I used rumani and shes like half the power of my Naga

[oblique magnet]

i'm in a different group though. we probably won't meet, lol

[swift mango]

fight oh!

[coarse lake]

collude

[oblique magnet]

oh good, i didn't post my group in my screen shot, lol

[placid bloom]

collude after team locked in

[valid fern]

what is there to collude? its afk arena

[coarse lake]

no fun allowed at all in champ

[swift mango]

Can you remove cube to surrender?

[valid fern]

its all locked in

[oblique magnet]

i think it said cubes were locked in?

[coarse lake]

yeah it saved things

[placid bloom]

everything is locked, can't change

[oblique magnet]

i wonder if we can adjust after each round

[valid fern]

I just found it hilarious my Helm burst team is going up against someone's jackal

[coarse lake]

just treat it as a way to practice your pvp skills in determining who wins a matchup, and to farm creds

[swift mango]

Good now you can kill their link.

[coarse lake]

on the bright side this is the least effort the players will have to do set 5 teams, do nothing for 10 days

[placid bloom]

but you have to stay awake 24/7 to defend top 4 to begin with

[coarse lake]

at this point why bother

4 vs 6 barely any diff

if you don't get in, just ignore it completely, or farm creds

[valid fern]

to get shiny frame you need to make it out of your initial group right?

[swift mango]

Could have made it top 16 though. I have seen web game that bring all server to this kind of arena.

[coarse lake]

if wording is right you just need to win once

[placid bloom]

no, there is battle win frame and participation frame too

the participation frame is the ugliest ofc

[coarse lake]

wdym

[placid bloom]

scroll all the way to the bottom

and look at the one that says "Entered the league"

[coarse lake]

ah ok

[placid bloom]

[fading pecan]

What is a battle? Just beating an opponent once? Winning your 4 man group?

[coarse lake]

well the two are basically the same anyway

[placid bloom]

battle = 1 match

[coarse lake]

I assume just beating opponent once

[placid bloom]

so unless you go 0-3 you will get the frame

[fading pecan]

Oh okay

[coarse lake]

but I feel like they completely misworded it and you gotta win it all

[valid fern]

yeah I'm wondering what "win one battle" actually means. cause honestly that's too easy. its basically a participation frame as well

[coarse lake]

like the color doesn't make sense

[placid bloom]

their wording is annoying, battle = match, match = 5 round

[swift mango]

Need to get to top 64 and win one.

[coarse lake]

winning battles shouldn't be upgrade to gold

[oblique magnet]

i feel likes it's "Win THE Champion Arena" or something, lokl

[coarse lake]

oh

yeah they mistranslated it hard, you win it all

ok that's one thing ticked off on my bingo

[placid bloom]

[coarse lake]

I suppose misleading would be the team format

def = atk, auto battle, wordings never told us either way

where I'm at rn

[pale knoll]

@fathom rock

[valid fern]

I think I'll have a chance at it eventually. Assuming I get cores and decent OL lines down the line. But for now I am losing to a CP diff Exia team.

[swift mango]

Maybe you could win

[pale knoll]

Does it even matter

[swift mango]

I have a decent chance too, just need to check their team composition

[valid fern]

I definitely win my initial group. but the shiny frame requires to win the whole ass tourney right?

[past marsh]

so how does the fighting phase work guys?

[pale knoll]

You just wait for the next 18 hours

[placid bloom]

win whole tournament 30 times

for maximum shiny

[fathom rock]

[lunar pawn]

think this covers it? for now

[pale knoll]

Actually didn't expect to see you haha

Frank too 👀

[fathom rock]

Thats the 1st and last time this will happen dw
I shouldn't even be in your league

[fathom rock]

And abao and alex and munch

[pale knoll]

You don't wanna be with me?

[lone sequoia]

a ss from the future?

[fathom rock]

I do but :

1. I dont belong here lmao
2. Ca sucks

[pale knoll]

Wdym

[pale knoll]

Yes you belong here

And yes, CA should get nuked

[fathom rock]

You started 2-3 month before me

[lone sequoia]

it doesn't matter, top4 is top4

[pale knoll]

I started in tove banner

[fathom rock]

Im sync 371 and you 421

[lunar pawn]

people who started late have unironically better chances to win more battles in CA, what with them fighting bots and uneven groups

[pale knoll]

If I were 421 I would have pushed 32h already

[lone sequoia]

now we have to wait for the +200 synchro guys with CA winning frame next season

[fathom rock]

401 still?

[pale knoll]

Yeah, we hoarding until next chapters release

[fathom rock]

My alt has insane pvp potential... If it gets biscu one day

[lone sequoia]

next event(?

[coarse lake]

if you got the web page you should be able to click on the square to x them out

[pale knoll]

I hope so, I'll also be pushing chapter 36 h with my other account when new chapters drop

[lunar pawn]

ah rip

seeing how CA actually works, the bingo card has a lot of missed potential

[lone sequoia]

behemoth here, then push to 521 or 541 before next boss

[pale knoll]

Sounds like a plan, good luck

[lunar pawn]

still nothing

[coarse lake]

yeah

[pale knoll]

[rose plaza]

I can't seem to beat this team. A few weeks ago it was 50/50, but now. I'm losing every attempt. How would you beat it?

[pale knoll]

<@&946725432554836008>

[rose kestrel]

If only SP Arena mimic'ed what Champion Arena did... Cap everyone at 400. Literally in a bracket where most regardless of teams in the Top 10 are lvl 500 (resource whales) getting carried by raw level scaling.

Otherwise I would probably be participating in Champion Arena easily with that Top 4 requirement.

[sleek imp]

Who do I use for b2? Anis/Anchor?

[coarse lake]

anchor

[sleek imp]

Alright ty

[coarse lake]

but you do still want anis there for gen

[swift mango]

I'm synch 377 now. Open your boxes and get to 401 already.

[fathom rock]

My boxes dont get me to 381

You overestimate how much dust i have

[lunar pawn]

thinking same level doesn't mean you'll still get cp gapped

[sleek imp]

do i take out the other girl then

[fathom rock]

And new chapters are literally coming in 2 weeks why now

[coarse lake]

is alice there for cp

[sleek imp]

Yes, shes 16k while the rest of my unit are 6k-11k

[coarse lake]

how much cp is biscuit vs anis

[swift mango]

Maybe I could save and not get to 381 early.

14 days are more than enough for 4 lv though.

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Trina+RH+Centi+Jackal

[swift mango]

Just don't brick

[spiral onyx]

So I fked up my CA teams. I mistook RapiHood for Red Hood cause their icons are so similar

[coarse lake]

[spiral onyx]

Luckily RapiHood can also B1 and just barely has enough burst gen to make the team 3RL

[coarse lake]

why did you use maxwell instead of xmaiden btw

[swift mango]

And still win anyway

[spiral onyx]

But that team is gonna be a lot weaker with a +16% atk buff instead of +77% lol

[spiral onyx]

My XMaiden is 0LB lmao

[coarse lake]

ah

[spiral onyx]

You guys can see my teams?

[coarse lake]

yeah

also your noise can survive 3rl in p1?

[spiral onyx]

She's pretty chonky

[spiral onyx]

Could have been bad if it wasn't 3RL

What I actually used:

What I was supposed to use:

[tropic summit]

100,6

you're hitting 3RL with RRH shooting

[lyric vault]

Possible cheating? 3 players with almost the same name, all at commander level 1

[tropic summit]

just bots

some other players reported having them aswell, seems like matchmaking had to fill some slots

[placid bloom]

there's not enough people to fill 64 groups so the rest is bots

[lyric vault]

Gotcha

[lone sequoia]

bots

[spiral onyx]

But yeah, now you guys get to see the results of my 2 years of CA cooking lol

[lone sequoia]

can we?

[eager mountain]

need a quantum for cs gen loss ye

[tropic summit]

the only downside is that it's all RNG based on team order

[lone sequoia]

SU will post the winner and nothing more

[placid bloom]

and RNG based on which half of bracket you are in for top 64

[eager mountain]

whats rails team

[tropic summit]

i'm very baked

#pvp-arena message

[eager mountain]

my scar team def gonna get flamed for coping rosa sacc

[lone sequoia]

why?

lv1 sacc?

[eager mountain]

woah, the <700k pve team was enough to cp diff one of them

[eager mountain]

400 sync lock so im saccing scar

[tropic summit]

oh you're right, that's actually a free win for me

didn't account for CP diff

silly me always thinking i'm the one diffed

[eager mountain]

we need to know whether cp diff is the same or not and how p5 targetting works

[tropic summit]

good point

[sonic sonnet]

what are you supposed to do during the fight phase in champions arena?

[placid bloom]

nothing, you're done after locking in your team

[sonic sonnet]

oh

[tropic summit]

it's all auto

teams will essentially do "quick battle" back and forth among all members of the groups

you'll attack and def against each

[placid bloom]

the win/loss in group is probably decided already, the only thing you can do is pray that you get an easy path starting top 64

[tropic summit]

ya probably already got calculated

[sonic sonnet]

oh

i thought it'd be more strategic than just sitting back and pray like sunday church

[tropic summit]

i think that's safe to assume that most of the community thought the same

[swift mango]

They need to revamp Arena shop and enlarge the qualification by top 8+

[pale knoll]

Oh 2.5 anni stream is tomorrow?

[swift mango]

[placid bloom]

Idk, I assumed it was autobattle from the teaser UI

there was no attack button or anything

just scoreboard

[tropic summit]

just make CA playable and keep rewards as is, flex mode is fine but let us play

[swift mango]

Lazy Arena system is fine. But at least give more people more chance to play and reward.

[glossy tree]

next week ?

[sonic sonnet]

and it's supposed to last 9 days?

[pale knoll]

Tomorrow

[oak gale]

what do i do , where do i press 💀 or does it happe automatically

[dim shuttle]

Let me cheer where is it

[lone sequoia]

wait and pray

[tropic summit]

it's all virtual

[pale knoll]

Oh nvm

[oak gale]

💀 oh boy

[pastel owl]

who knows, may be 'fight' is a mistranslation

[gaunt viper]

Thought on how to beat this comp? I beat the 2nd but the 1st they kill Trina before she can get her burst off so my dmg isn't good enough to kill rapunzel so she revives Laplace and then Laplace bursts to kill me slowly.

[oak gale]

💀 i love this lol

[placid bloom]

I think they trying too hard to make it like esports, having groups and top 64/32/16/8/4/finals play on different days

[tropic summit]

scarlet liter trina centi jackal solves your issue

[lone sequoia]

SU will delay the "real" CA a couple time to make whales waste a lot of gems in sp bracket

[placid bloom]

when it's all done almost instantly

[tropic summit]

example

[gaunt viper]

🤔 , alright I'll try it

[swift mango]

All auto anyway. May as well make it top 16.

[eager mountain]

maximum sacc copium

[tropic summit]

soda linked

you actually put effort in these

[eager mountain]

thankyou xmaiden

[tropic summit]

and rapu stun in p1 aswell

[placid bloom]

doesn't that p1 Scarlet just die to normals

[tropic summit]

scarlet sacc

[placid bloom]

oh right it's Ros comp

[tropic summit]

tibi planned this out pretty well

[placid bloom]

that's pretty good

[swift mango]

Brave of you to don't even use Blanc.

[eager mountain]

in reality scar wont die before 3rl most of the time so it wont be 2.5rl as ideally shouldve been

[pale knoll]

She's there wdym

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

forgot to wear his glasses today

[pale knoll]

[swift mango]

Soda stun so Noah become 1 sec late and catch your Emi anyway.

[gaunt viper]

Thank you very much

[tropic summit]

no problem gj

[lone sequoia]

MG can tank 2RL~2.5RL at most against a good scarlet, maybe 2.2 is the norm but if you can tank more time it means that enemy scarlet is weak

[grizzled bone]

[eager mountain]

Yes ik… but honestly, screw it, I ain’t regrouping over again
Blanc team doesn’t need any b1 stall and thus b1 stun or b1 rosa

[lunar pawn]

just grab popcorn

[tropic summit]

hopefully we'll get at least some sort of summary for each matchup?

[lunar pawn]

busted

[tropic summit]

even just seeing dmg taken/inflicted would help getting a grasp of what happened

[grizzled bone]

doubt

[placid bloom]

this looks like intentional sabotage to mess with betting

[lunar pawn]

I should probably save my credits now for betting

I wonder if participants can bet too

[eager mountain]

Scar, typo
I’m pretty much hoping for sg targeting p1 for scar to die in 2.5 rl, unless they got lap team against my scar team lmao

Mg has the lowest def anyway

[lone sequoia]

unliked scar? trina in the team?

[eager mountain]

@lone sequoia This team

[lone sequoia]

that scarlet tank 1~2RL not more

unless they use a cindy team

or stall

[eager mountain]

My old clips of unprotected scar dies 3rd rl usually

[lone sequoia]

atk and def are different

[eager mountain]

We don’t know how ca targeting works

That’s why coping for sg hitting p1

[tropic summit]

[lone sequoia]

it should be fine

if they attack you with SG, hit p1

did you check teams in the same round?

[unborn latch]

There is currently nothing to click in champ arena currently, correct? It's just browsing?

[tropic summit]

everything is auto, no interaction

matches will run based on team order

[eager mountain]

2 of them got sg in the same team

[tropic summit]

a la "quick battle" style

[eager mountain]

If saccing within 2rl is no issue then imma max rosa s2 for potential 2-2.4rl with tons of scar feed

[pale knoll]

You know Spanish?

[eager mountain]

La li lu le lo

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-mgs-mgs4-ocelot-liquid-ocelot-gif-18131446

[pale knoll]

[swift mango]

While many people don't get to play.

[placid bloom]

next update top 6 get to enter trust

[swift mango]

I should have made my team 5 burst with Emi, too late to regret now... I could lose stupidly.

[tropic summit]

there's next time

[tropic summit]

i've absolutely no clue of spanish

[swift mango]

Auto matchmaking Emi is the best burst 3. Just I didn't know it would be auto fight.

[fading pecan]

I forgot to put blanc in my CA team
Wallah im cooked

[tropic summit]

it's always the patriots

[pale knoll]

Where you from?

[tropic summit]

somewhere in EU

[pale knoll]

England in EU?

[tropic summit]

do i look like a brit to you

[pale knoll]

Kinda yeah

[tropic summit]

nope

[pale knoll]

Italy

[tropic summit]

why italy?

[ornate spoke]

united kingdom of france

[pale knoll]

Why not

[umbral belfry]

still nothing

[tropic summit]

surely you had to base that on something

is it because i cook so i must be making pizza at home?

[eager mountain]

rail knows english, therefore he cant be french

[tropic summit]

yeah i can't speak 🥖

[pale knoll]

Yeah

[tropic summit]

[pale knoll]

Polish

[thorn pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/you-enjoy-all-the-killing-thats-why-mgs-metal-gear-solid-liquid-snake-metal-gear-solid-the-twin-snakes-gif-22312292

[tropic summit]

the fact you were right at the second guess scares me

[ornate spoke]

but english is the child of french and german

gotta have some filial piety

[obsidian hemlock]

So does anyone know whats going on with the champ arena?

[pale knoll]

Italy?

[obsidian hemlock]

i have no idea what to do lol

[tropic summit]

must be sorcery

[pale knoll]

I'm a visionary

[ornate spoke]

so anyways, did the devs post somewhere how the CA arena works?

[umbral belfry]

I GOT RED HOOD

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

In which bracket is Agent Eon guys?

[ornate spoke]

the stuff in the game is kinda of useless lol

[tropic summit]

not mine

[coarse lake]

the one with venom in group 1

[umbral belfry]

why the day after CA thougg

[tropic summit]

hime i've bad news for you

[keen vapor]

Group 1

[tropic summit]

to get RH and to have RH built are 2 different things

[eager mountain]

rate italy in scale of 0 to 10

[umbral belfry]

what do you mean

[pale knoll]

It was actually because of this btw haha

[upper grove]

RH hungry

wants all the skillbooks

[keen vapor]

I'm going to gamble all to Eon guys easy thousand credits

[tropic summit]

the giveaway

[swift mango]

Oh wait, even if I lost to one guy, if I win against other guys more, I would still win right?

[umbral belfry]

pls I did 10/10/10 for rrh not that long ago

[upper grove]

it probably should work like that

[umbral belfry]

not again

[tropic summit]

prepare your skillbooks and your family savings

probably sell the house aswell

[upper grove]

she's another 10/10/10

[pale knoll]

I have an Italian friend that told me something about a porcodio?

[tropic summit]

haha a classic

[umbral belfry]

is this the end of my current 10/7/10 scarlet skills building rn

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

well RH takes precedence

core unit for most if not all PvE content

[umbral belfry]

forgive me scarlet

[tropic summit]

and you gonna need her for motherwhalerino

[upper grove]

tbf, sbs can be higher prio if you want earlier kraken S6

my RH is 10/10/10 and I'm still stuck at MW HM sync 308

[tropic summit]

[umbral belfry]

I still need to beat MC normal

[tropic summit]

my RH had sore back after beating whale

carried the thing nearly alone

[umbral belfry]

wait, does this mean this is the end of my alice days

[upper grove]

you ideally use both RH and alice on MW

[tropic summit]

alice and RH can go along very well on high deficit

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

alice also buffs RH

[upper grove]

RH for malding campaign is most often just a B1 bot for me

[tropic summit]

a healthy relationship

[umbral belfry]

no more doll bricking

[tropic summit]

high deficit teams generally involve

rh, sbs, rrh, crown, naga, alice, cindy (liter)

[umbral belfry]

rn I'm running crown rrh sbs alice helm

[tropic summit]

rh alice rrh naga crown can snipe high deficit bosses very well

[tropic summit]

ye helmt is a latest addition, especially for core-less enemies

or if you need to live

[upper grove]

farter stages, snake

[tropic summit]

mhm

god bless her sustain

[upper grove]

behemoth thunderstorm can be outhealed as well iirc

[umbral belfry]

is behe ch 33

[upper grove]

34

[tropic summit]

soon TM

[umbral belfry]

things to prepare for

but for now, I go get rh pvp ready for my scar team

[upper grove]

you want to have a good sbs for ch 33 34 anyway

rh has a field day in ch 35 36, iron weak stages

[umbral belfry]

sbs is my most invested rn, dunno how 'good'she is

but she gets the job done

[upper grove]

if your sbs has some ele lines she will destroy ch 33 34

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

At least, no more excuse that you can't beat MW because you don't have RH.

[tropic summit]

mother 🐳

[upper grove]

never used that excuse

I beat MW regular mode with double alice core nuke cheese

double burst weekend, surely kraken will bless me with many rocks

[swift mango]

I got 6 rock. So average 1 per fight.

[swift mango]

We have helmT now so just burst with her when you need to outheal something.

[upper grove]

yeah ofc

5 rock day

[swift mango]

core unit for most if not all PvE content

F4y

Kinda feel bad for Rosy. Could mald much more campaign with Red hood.... Even if all out Arena...

[pale knoll]

Should have pulled on her banner

[oblique ridge]

Are people still at 0 matches?

Where's the blood we yearn to see spill in the coliseum?!

[tropic summit]

16 hrs till "blood" is spilled

[pale knoll]

Go sleep big man, 00:00

[eager mountain]

Big 🍝 🍕 man

[pearl nova]

I dont get it, feel like ima get cooked in champions arena

[spiral onyx]

That's fine with me. I built 5 solid well rounded teams, so this format is to my advantage (even though it takes away the ability to theorycraft attack teams)

[pale knoll]

How are you feeling about it?

[spiral onyx]

They look the same! 😭

[spiral onyx]

Things could have been better but at least this is a lot less effort for me. Theorycraft once, then sit back and relax and see it play out on its own

[pale knoll]

So you are not particularly dissatisfied?

[eager mountain]

Ye I don’t dislike the theory and then sit back

[spiral onyx]

I'm dissatisfied but the "top 4" aspect because you're gating out a lot of the community. I'm medium on the full auto battle part cause it takes away from potential gameplay fun of building attack teams, but at the same time I understand it given the non real time nature of the system. I'm a bit disappointed in the rewards system cause the frames kinda suck (look too much like tower frames) and the guild rewards suck (arena tickets) and the cheering rewards suck (just credits) but I think those are easy things for ShiftUp to iterate on based off of feedback, so I'm not too worried

[placid bloom]

is this the same reason you have heal cube for Cinderella in your spreadsheet instead of vigor

[spiral onyx]

Overall I'm not all up in arms on anything except the top 4 thing, but we made our feedback heard for that already and that ship might have already sailed

[pale knoll]

Fair enough, thanks for taking the time

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-the-simpsons-bush-bushes-hermit-gif-5786484

[bleak shale]

tbf i need credits

[neon dagger]

Alright after building the potentially best PvE team for most of my endgame content I'm considering making at least one pvp team.

Any suggestions?

[bleak shale]

my credit situation is getting real spicy

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-moe-szyslak-bribe-chief-wiggum-money-gif-545386935428631853

[unique wagon]

Itsok there is next time Keripo

[neon dagger]

If I had to make one big great team for pvp with what I have, who should I use?

[unique wagon]

Now the hyper fast Jackal/Scar will feed off ur Rapi

[spiral onyx]

I see nothing wrong here

[bleak shale]

a singular team? r u also hiding nikkes below that r unsynced

[neon dagger]

There's Soda if you want

I can sync some so it's not a problem

I suppose Noah and Helm can be good right?

[bleak shale]

looking at cp we're probably going with a fast team, i dont see scar/trina so
probably
noah rapunzel cindy jackal helm for aoe nuke
or
noise rapunzel sanis/sbs jackal noah for more consistent dmg

while trying to use as many of ur high cp as possible

[neon dagger]

I can build them so don't mind them not being built is ok

[bleak shale]

its mostly just noise down there, but cp gap makes a decent difference

[unique wagon]

Hi Clown

[bleak shale]

[neon dagger]

But I probably might try the first team, sounds more solid even if, in the case I don't os, it doesn't work

[neon dagger]

I never play in Arena so I have time

[bleak shale]

both have their own counters since theres no team that beats everything but their counters r different, cindy is weak vs aoe block like noah and sanis/sbs is more susceptible to getting blanc scarlet/fast aoe nuked

[coarse lake]

yolo'ed a piece on sanis bc it had only line 1 ele, tried to get extra line for cp pad, ended up being atk

so to keep noise higher atk, I had to reroll value on one of noise's pieces, wasn't enough, had to get 4th atk line on noise

my noise will soon have the highest atk ol on my account

[eager mountain]

my noise already has the highest atk line among non carries

When I tried to roll one cs on her and each gear return atk first

[coarse lake]

she's gonna beat my 40% atk cindy once I fix up that new line tomorrow

[eager mountain]

Took almost 30 fresh rolls to get 1 cs

[neon dagger]

I'll need a team against Noah then ig, the second team you mentioned works right? Or I can go Red Hood or SSRapi?

[coarse lake]

btw I've been trying to get scar her 4th atk line for the past week, no results, when I don't really want atk, now I get it on sanis... tch

[bleak shale]

it depends on their team, when ur attacking its always best to just make a team to counter w/e theyre doing

[eager mountain]

Sanis still wants atk anyways

[coarse lake]

worst thing is, 30 to 40% atk isn't gonna make noise link prio over anyone else I use

so it really does nothing except making sure she's still higher than sanis

[bleak shale]

speed/ full team setup matters alot

[lunar pawn]

CA still a bunch of 0s?

[coarse lake]

I've never even ran noise sanis comps.... I'm just prepping in case I do

[eager mountain]

What’s ur ca team?

[eager mountain]

And 1s

[coarse lake]

noise is on cindy

and it's locked anyway, so won't matter

[neon dagger]

I guess I'll build tomorrow, my phone is dying

[lunar pawn]

[eager mountain]

[novel scaffold]

anyone understand

the champion arena

[eager mountain]

We won’t have the full pic until the last phrase

And vids

[novel scaffold]

im sad I got pushed up a server into a harder server for my special arena

[tropic summit]

guess there's really not gonna be any info until those hours left are passed

[rich quail]

This is by design

Shifty Up’s design

[tropic summit]

[rich quail]

The method of surprise and wonder

[tropic summit]

the method of:

"sir they've been waiting for this mode for 2 years..."
SU: "just do it."

[rich quail]

Boy I can’t wait to get the Survey for this dumpster fire well-crafted mode

[lunar pawn]

cyberpunk had a better release

[tropic summit]

wow now that's a big burn

[rich quail]

But a great analogy

[tropic summit]

[eager mountain]

I’m fine with ca until I get my a*s kicked

[severe nimbus]

so far...my impression of CA is "this took nearly 2.5 years to make????"

[raven plover]

my bad unc

[rich quail]

It feels like a “well, we spent that much time on it, we should just bring it out and get it over with” type of feature

[raven plover]

confirmed?

[tropic summit]

Blood gonna retire from pvp because of that lack of insight

[raven plover]

ok if sg atk p1 on both sides then I have higher chance to win

[rich quail]

A lot of people might retire from pvp because of CA

[tropic summit]

isn't it like 5 rounds on atk and 5 rounds on def?

(against each member of the group)

[rich quail]

Not me
I will treat my pvp units like Chia Pets

Nurture them and watch them grow

https://tenor.com/view/chia-chia-pet-toy-grow-plant-gif-17540167

[tropic summit]

[rich quail]

My prediction

It’s just gonna tell you who won

No replays
No real detail on how a person wins or loses

Maybe not until final 4

[coarse lake]

cyperpunk release was

snooze arena release is

[tropic summit]

worthless

[rich quail]

I knoe rite?

[tropic summit]

arena

[coarse lake]

should be replays in top 64 elim

we see the icon

[tropic summit]

[lunar pawn]

this level of auto battling feels like something copy pasted from a mobage from 10 years ago

[valid fern]

I wish i didn't have such shit OL luck

[tropic summit]

wonder if they had to scratch the idea of running similar SP arena battles due to server loads / issues

and had to come down with this simulated garbage

afterall previous maint was very sus

the one that lasted more than half a day

[unique wagon]

• Game mode delayed for 2 years. ✅
• Only <2% players can participate. ✅
• Battles are done automatically; no attacking teams can be made, making it pure RNG fest. ✅
• Costly servers to maintain. ✅
• Players disappointed. ✅
• "We want to make sure all players enjoy this new game mode, and that's why we are delaying it." ❌
• "We have received your feedback, and now cheering will not cost credits." ✅

[rich quail]

pvp is ded

[tropic summit]

ah yes, that's the bingo we needed

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-1182720488497099882

[pale knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/peepocomfy-peepo-comfy-cozy-blanket-gif-24439687

[lunar pawn]

"we have received your feedback, cheering now will not cost credits"

[tropic summit]

the most important issue was fixed, hurray

[rich quail]

“We have received your feedback. We will now remove pvp from Nikke.”

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/jalen-hurts-jalen-hurts-meek-mill-i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-gif-13709870523385828441

cheering now cost gems and you get credits in return

[rich quail]

In place of pvp will be a DDR-like game featuring your Nikkes in SD form!

[lunar pawn]

[tropic summit]

when is surface exploration content releasing again? 🤔

[coarse lake]

at some point...

[rich quail]

No more gemming just to get knocked down back to where you were 12 hours ago

Now you can earn arena tickets by performing dance combos with SD Maid Privaty!

[coarse lake]

but it's pve content they advertise a lot in livestreams (I think?), so it's gotta be better than champ

[swift mango]

It's was my idea in the first place. Just wanted to talk about it.

[tropic summit]

it's gonna be really hard to make it worse than CA

it's like they asked someone how they could make pvp the least entertaining

[rich quail]

It was very apparent that pvp was an afterthought from the very beginning

Which is a shame because it still has so much potential to be a fun side game

[tropic summit]

surface content pvp: fight PvP to hold territories against other commanders

[coarse lake]

maybe surface content is gfl2

idk if they wanna bother with 3d models

maybe it's just chibi version

[swift mango]

My biggest regret is that I didn't go with Emi p1 because I wasn't sure it to be auto battle... I was putting back and for and decided to not in the end.

And that team got hit by 2 x 3rl Noah.

[rich quail]

GFL2 is the real Nikke pvp

[tropic summit]

oh that'd be refreshing at least

something new and not re-used assets

and ye probably chibi tho

[swift mango]

Like the server wanted to laugh at my decision and match me with 2 peeps who put Noah there.

[tropic summit]

you won RNG in reverse

ironic because you had 1 chance on 5 to have a noah in that team slot

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

next thing you get siren within a single multi? twice.

[swift mango]

After 300 pulls

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

Made 5 good teams and may end up losing to peeps with 2 flex just because of luck. That guy 3 teams exactly counter mine, if the order switch a little he would lose easily.

[pale knoll]

[swift mango]

Next CA I would have Emi+Miranda nuke ready to nuke their asses.

No more hesitate.

[pale knoll]

Emilia demonstrating why she's the best once again

[tropic summit]

the miranda finally unleashed

[spiral onyx]

"We identified the source of all the issues and fixed it by completely removing it"

@unique wagon You can view at teams right now so you can go ahead and build your database lol

Literally just scrape the team comps and win rates data every day of CA

And at the end you have yourself a free test matrix

[coarse lake]

[unique wagon]

Im not even in game for 1 month already

[pale knoll]

Just in discord yapping 24/7

[spiral onyx]

This is probably the most objective test matrix anyone could ever build

[unique wagon]

So maybe ill just harvest people's screenshots

[coarse lake]

forced to do matchups normally ppl wouldn't do, so even more data

[unique wagon]

[spiral onyx]

The Scarlet GFL2 clan contains the leaders of the top 3 Nikke NA guilds (myself, Riven, and Don)

[bleak shale]

so far every team is equal cuz 000

[unique wagon]

Riven?

[bleak shale]

thats scarlet sin and CN guild (in that order)

[coarse lake]

are you guys the top guild in the region there

[spiral onyx]

The ironic part of the current format of CA pretty much fits perfectly with how I've been CA cooking for the past 2 years. Put together 5 team comps and test them against a fixed "test matrix"

[spiral onyx]

Yes, lol

[coarse lake]

keripo and his gang taking over gacha games one by one

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

what are you waiting for, just come back already

[unique wagon]

Shut up old man

[tropic summit]

silly teenager

[unique wagon]

[tropic summit]

[spiral onyx]

Always has been

[tropic summit]

I'm more amazed by how Keripo finds the time to deal with everything he has and yet still find time to yap here sometimes with us

[spiral onyx]

In most competitive gachas, you'll hear the names "Scarlet" or "Eden of Gaming". Probably the two biggest English speaking competitive whale communities at the moment

[spiral onyx]

I check my phone each time I'm on the toilet lol

[lunar pawn]

do you play fgo

[tropic summit]

[spiral onyx]

Played. I was the first English speaking player in FGO-JP to max ascend every Servant at the time

[coarse lake]

[tropic summit]

what a legend

[rich quail]

[spiral onyx]

Played FGO-NA casually, didn't want to go through that grind fest a second time

[lunar pawn]

nice

[tropic summit]

i've PTSD from FGO

[coarse lake]

gacha game should just dedicate a portion of their advertising budget strictly to advertise to keripo

[tropic summit]

from both the utter abysmal RNG but also the type of grind

[spiral onyx]

You should be able to find some of my old FGO guides floating around

[lunar pawn]

"so this is how you defeat goetia with just 1* servants"

[spiral onyx]

The oldest meme
https://youtu.be/YHWqiGUYRsc?si=wYByDHBIkGcFGnZa

[lunar pawn]

ah, 4 sq/pull, those were the times

[spiral onyx]

This too
https://keripo.com/static/gaming/fgo/memes/Unlimited Maintenance Works.jpg

[tropic summit]

it's been already 8 years?

[lunar pawn]

this year is JP's 10th anni right? olga for sure right?

[tropic summit]

haha this one is still beautiful

yorokobe shounen

golden times

[lunar pawn]

you can still get yorokobe shounen'd with curry these days

[tropic summit]

the man the legend, kotomine kirei

[fast skiff]

anyone know who would win this:

[unique wagon]

I looked up what Tsukihime meant

[lunar pawn]

4 pics max at a time

[fast skiff]

aw

vs

[lunar pawn]

nonononono

[fast skiff]

who wins

[lunar pawn]

SU wins, making you waste your time on this

[unique wagon]

Mostly lost

[lunar pawn]

is there a cp gap, what's the cp vs cp

[fast skiff]

1st 4th and 5th round looks winnable

[spiral onyx]

Arcueid is mai waifu
https://fxtwitter.com/TehKeripo/status/1809901321405018251
https://fxtwitter.com/TehKeripo/status/1625019699229769728
https://fxtwitter.com/TehKeripo/status/1143843026034233345

Keripo (@TehKeripo)

It's been fken 7 years since FGO-NA launched and I'm finally back, all for my one true waifu, Arcueid Brunestud~
︀︀(well, technically Archetype Earth here, close enough xD)
︀︀
︀︀Twitch stream: twitch.tv/videos/2191347974
︀︀Double roll: twitch.tv/videos/2191427330
︀︀#FGO #FateGOUSA #Arcueid

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FxTwitter · Jul 7, 2024, 10:44 AM

Keripo (@TehKeripo)

My TYPE-MOON shrine is nearing completion! Just need to find some free time to finally unbox my two new Arc Dollfies <3
︀︀#TYPEMOON #月姫 #Tsukihime #DollfieDream

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FxTwitter · Feb 13, 2023, 6:31 AM

Keripo (@TehKeripo)

After 7 years of TYPE-MOON collecting, I've obtained the Holy Grail...
︀︀TYPE-MOONの7年間の収集の後、私は聖杯を手に入れました...
︀︀
︀︀Tsukihime (Preview) / 月姫無料告知フロッピー
︀︀3.5" FD, Comiket 56 (1999-08)
︀︀
︀︀@TMitterOfficial
︀︀#typemoon #月姫 #武内崇 #奈須きのこ #タイプムーン

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FxTwitter · Jun 26, 2019, 11:26 AM

[unique wagon]

4 is dependent on how tanky ur Ein is

[lunar pawn]

I had to hit pity to get draco, and 20 multis to get tiamat

[unique wagon]

1 is hmmm

[drifting socket]

is there a guide to champion area anywhere? I don't know what's going on lmao

[lunar pawn]

just grab popcorn and watch, spectator arena

[bleak shale]

nobody knows its literally the first time

[drifting socket]

will I win

[fast skiff]

hes not bursting first his 1st team is 4RL

[swift mango]

So long as 100 gems return 20+ credit boxes it's still a profit.

[eager mountain]

Won’t have a real guide before we play thru it

[drifting socket]

ye just didn't know if they had released info or something

[oblique ridge]

Did someone die in CA yet?

[swift mango]

[oblique ridge]

[drifting socket]

Ty gl 2u too

[swift mango]

We are surface exploring CA.

[tropic summit]

i wish we didn't get to explore it then

[pale knoll]

[swift mango]

Got this yesterday after 200 gems. At least it's still a profit.

Started with 8 useless common and 4 useless doll dispatches. Good example of why reroll is needed.

[crystal flicker]

So it's not fighting top 4 from your bracket

[eager mountain]

would be beyond stup*d if its

[crystal flicker]

I forgot to put SAnis in P2

But it's fighting P1 Cindy tho

Maybe I can crew it before Cindy burst

This is though

[swift mango]

But I wanted to fight top 4 of my bracket.

[swift mango]

This is still not 2rl.

[calm gull]

from random brackets yes

[swift mango]

And ASS needs to get over Cindy decoy before touching Cindy real HP.

[calm gull]

free win

[swift mango]

Yeah, looks like you would lose.

[crystal flicker]

I can beat T1 T4 and T5 easily tho

He has 3 main PvP unit in that team

[calm gull]

mostly people has at least 3 pvp team ready

[crystal flicker]

It was Centi before Pepper, but I decided to use her to help gamble this Grave sacc

[swift mango]

Yeah, you won't be able to burst with this team otherwise.

[spiral onyx]

I hope we can actually watch the fights themselves rather than simply watch the scoreboard lol