#pvp-arena
1 messages ยท Page 250 of 1
but i'm joking you're probably right, crow didn't get enough details to even remotively click with the audience
Red Shoe also hotter ofc. 
ok now we can agree here 
the problem is she's a hypocrite sociopath who manipulates people into believing she's 100% correct when she's wrong half of the time
But she looks like most Germany ship girl in Azur Lane. Especially Roon. Not like they put much effort to her appearance. 
now that you mention it... isekai roon? 
And then we died.
she is actually a good character and not red shoes
she'll be the one protecc'ing you 
Or break your spine with her bear hug. 
You mean torture her by f her to death? 
yeah
Perfectly honest fellow
Is this team ok?
wrong place ?
I don't think Blanc does anything if you're bursting with Trina
This is where I asked for help team building last time-
you might as well use another RL
change blanc and trina
that team isn't even 2RL
Why would I change Trina- I was told to get Trina
Centi
nonono, Swap their positions i mean
So I meant Cinderella not Alice but yeah centi feels better
you reach 2RL from Jackal feed + Scarlet counter
Oh ok
your previous team was 3RL
Quantum cube*
Think it's seconds
ye 1 quantum is enough too
guys, is that okay
dayum triple buff scarlet
If trina not well investes in skills, just swap her with blanc
Jamรกs
that's my bro

Looks like Blanc and Redhood donโt really have a spot on the team unless theyโre with Scarlet
too weak in charge
blanc emi rh xx xx
could anyone recommend how to beat this def? got all chars except treasure laplace
That will be defeated by Scarlet
any setup has counter...
true dude
any team can be counter anyway
Rapunzel stuns your team?
I don't think she will stun in P3. Put her in P1 maybe
but u can still beat team 2&3
scarlet blanc rh centi/trina jackel for team2. And noah biscuit rapirh noise emi for team3
you can try 4RL for T3 or 5RL setup
You need to get your CP in range too. Most a day one F2P could do is 541+ right now. 
2rl Cindy on Scarlet
Scar Trina on Emi.
Could do indom Emi on Cindy as well if you have enough units.
It's very straightforwardly easy to get 3/3 out of this def but do you have the CP?
4/7/7 on Trina RN
worked perfectly thank you!
did this RH use tempering or vigor ?
Probably need liter or RH buff if you wanted to kill her without crit. 
im asking bout my rossana cant 1shot RH
Oh, it's normal for Rossana to not being able to one shot RH from full HP without crit. Provide you and them having similar power. 
If Rossanna can one shot everything people won't ditch her like she is now. 

yeah feel like I'm wasting my doll exp on her
See the damage comparisons chart on my tier list: https://tinyurl.com/nikke-pvp-tierlist
Even with concealment buff, she can barely 1-shot. The enemy target would need to have taken a decent amount of splash damage and not have any dolls/tempering cube OR be elemental weak to Rosanna
this is assuming max investment of course, but without taking OL lines into consideration
yeah my rossana has sr15 and 46%atk
should then be pretty close assuming you have the Concealment buff up and their B1 isnt Noise or Moran
Rosanna cant OHKO unless significant sync/core difference. 40%/50% atk OL shouldnt move the needle that much
rosanna players are psychopaths, change my mind
You should see my Pepper

Pepper is at least fun+has decent element
Pepper has high burst gen and boosts Scarlet slightly
she doesnt hit as hard, but she's a solid B1 pick given her burst gen and utility
exactly, used her as a b1 buffer for scar at some point
They tried to convince me to join their Rosanna investments, I avoided the cult
4/7/7 for sac shenanigans only, nothing more, nothing leds
Mines 111
didn't even setup a sac
If you wanted to break Jackal link you may need skill 1 lv7. Already invested so might as well spare that 3 level. And defending on the comp you might want higher level skill 2 to make it 2rl. 
I'm at level 9 and my comp is barely enough for 2rl with one die. Maybe one day I might need lv10 but not now. 
3buff isn't enough
deficit?

Do you have good showcase for her against 2 RL teams with backup B3s that it must be her as B1 not anyone else? Her being SG made me not build her, haven't seen a pepper one shot anyone from full hp. And it relies on them being the highest attack which could be a guessing game.
No, I only do CA testing nowadays and I don't expect to see many 2RL teams there. Pepper is also never meant to 1-shot anyone, she literally cannot. Her role is to be burst gen, chunk some damage, and boost Scarlet by one buff stack
If you're not using her as burst, slot in an attacker clip SG instead
Pepper is support, not attacker
Can she survive Scarlet S2? Recently saw BSoda die exactly on her 4th bullet against Scar
Her base stats aren't as high as Drake, Sugar, Noir, Isabel, etc
Of course not lol
Putting any SG against a Scarlet Jackal team is suicide
But the team you mentioned is her using as B1 to help Scarlet stack
So if we do a mirror match of Scarlet
Why would you run a mirror match
So if opponent runs a mirror Scarlet team
Yeah just even in CA just mirror match it
"what if your opponent runs Scarlet Jackal Noah etc"
Great, they waste their Scarlet Jackal
There's 4 more teams to beat
Nah no Noah, any matched with Noah will lose anyway
I don't think its a waste if you wasted Scar against Scar tho
There is no perfect 5 defence teams, let alone 3 perfect defence teams
You just traded Scarlet teams
Sure, now they have to figure out a better counter to SAnis team
I would never waste my Scarlet Jackal on a mirror match
I don't use Nero
Oh, you mean running two taunters
Wasn't Nero team always double taunt
Either I traded my Moran with their Moran Biscuit or better traded it against Noah if its Noah SAnis
I would trade Scarlet Jackal for their SAnis cause that's an easy hard counter, then pick many other options against their other teams. We have many anti nuke options but few anti sustain options
There's only 2 sustain teams, SAnis and Ein
Er, not sustain, continual damage
Well I always just match Nero against SAnis
I don't even need to be quick
4 RL is also fine
You're referring to Nero Moran right, not solo Nero?
Save Moran for a team that needs it
Well its against a Noah
Or a Moran Biscuit
Better Noah Biscuit
I don't need to save Moran elsewhere, I still have my Noah and Biscuit
Yeah I just traded, then what are the other 3
Nice try, I'm not sharing my CA teams yet 
I don't recommend it
You're building attack teams, anything goes lol
CA is gonna be where you literally see people get slaughtered by 5 SG teams
I don't use either but if your requirement is just have 2 taunters against an SAnis team, it will probably work
And have your B3 just be Alice or Scalter or someone lol
I like a 100% damage reduction
โ Activates when entering Full Burst. Affects all enemies.
Attract: Taunt all enemies for 15.09 sec.
โ Activates when entering Full Burst. Affects self.
Damage Taken โผ 57.86% for 15 sec.
She's very tanky if invested into
My whole issue with this is that you're trying to do a burst time counter
Trying to our damage their SAnis with your SAnis
When you could instead cheese the fight before even getting to burst
Oh fair
My other B3 can be literally anything
I can probably do a quick test actually and see how well Ludmilla Nero works
I'm interested on Ludmilla Bay
She gets closer to 100% damage reduction with doll and tempura
My only nitpick is she is B1
And def wise, she needs to be P1 to take most of the heat
Coz dumdum code doesn't let normal attacks get attract taunted unless whoever they are initially hitting dies after the attract taunt is triggered
100% damage reduction... 1 damage on non CP deficit is coming 
uh taking a look 
scarlet blanc rh laplace jackal
noah biscuit pepper rrh noir
crown naga alice liter mana
thank you a ton
Fighting this guy is driving me crazy, what can I do to more consistently outlast his Noah with my Anis ?
thanks again for catching this. that was the weak link. now the line holds
๐ oh no @tropic summit
good luck defending against those ch2 and ch3 now 
wellshit
pvpers and high on CP are not good combos against you 
wew that's a darn shame 
the records goes like that
That Noah lasts for too long
hmmm, you might be bursting a tad too soon
we can push your s.anis to have even better stalling and buffing
also keeping your team alive actually
can you give a try with this?
@tropic summit
487k CP 
Ye should i try a different opp?
btw, jackal had quantum cube if that was bad
those opponents are kinda outside of your hit zone
nah your team was fine, just bursting too early
try this other variation i gave you and record it
We did managed to go for 3. Place tho,its opponents getting stronger
yep you're just short on CP

Should i go for 6.? Im 7. Rn
you're sync 310 against sync 324, it's just a matter of getting your investiment to your pvp core units
It is happening,slowly
which cubes?
your box is probably still this
temperance on noah
vigor on biscuit
resil on s.anis, s.anis burst lvl 9 minimun, no ammo OL
RH can run resil/bastion
helmT resil
if i get trina to 4 7 7 it should be enough or whho do i need to build next for pvp?
post ur box and 3 def teams i don't remember it by heart 
wow this guy CP is even better than your other opponent
pick someone else 
you'd be gapped on 2 teams here
Nah we could do,his third team is trash we just gotta win against first or two
traded with the guy so i cant take a pic rn , but when i do ill send it , but its that same lineup he only switched t2 and t3 around
at least thats what i saw in the defense
that seemed to have worked. I can also not worry about rerolling OL for RH with this setup
Though the guy between thems cp is 455k 492k 454k
I have 300 mileage tickets,i was planning to buy a epinel lb but i got her lb from a mold so does it worth buying noah lb?
ye although biscuit dying within 3RL is a bad sign, give her a better doll
should be alive with 25-33% HP once you hit noah B2
will do, once I get some
@tropic summit what lines i should go with rumani ol
mhm i see he's trying to change approach, legit decision
CS%, atk%, elem atk%
getting 17%CS on batteries can help
Does crit dmg and charge spd matter?
charge speed matter, as i said batteries on 17% CS total can hit better burst gen thresholds
crit dmg is dependant on whether you crit or not, generally not advised anyway
wow trina initial OL was legit
now get another 3 lines of CS%
yep , thats how it always go , and then i end up trying to remember what counters what ๐

oh very good upgrade
2 out of 3 of the best OLs 
Im rerolling on percentages rn
Atk 10.40 and elem dmg 9.54,should i save atk and reroll or reroll all?
I dunno if there is a mathematically right answer for that
guess benefit of roll both means you fishing for blue/black lines on both at once, for one rock per go
u would be locking a first line roll and using more stones for just that
Should i go for it?@tropic summit
Ill re roll all

Same atk better elem dmg๐
black line hit rate

I got chance to Atk 10.40 and elem dmg 12.34 into atk 5.47 and elem dmg 17.95 should i change?
ye worth
is that what the champions arena looks like?
bear in mind u can be atk% buff heavy tho in teams
got my crown doll to SR-10 so one step left and a good number of materials as well
I have two rocks left,im locking the elem and re roll probability of atk
I got 7.59,acceptible
that's a headache atm with your CP, i personally wouldn't
plus you can't defend against them anyway
the other dude is a far more legit target
who's the 3rd option btw? there should be another
This is the third guy,5th in place
why naga in that
Is it good for me
hmm it's at least somewat in CP range
Winnable
Also winnable
@unique wagon good luck
(that's @warm monolith box and their CP) 
headache material 
should just raise your CP and try again in weeks/months, not gonna go over this everyday for sure
You cant make me win
Just funnel CP to T1. Enemy T3 is so shit.
Would you be mad if i ask how you did the first imagw
oh no absolutely, just use any picture editing software, the easist is basic paint
Scarlet Rapipi HelmTr Naga Jackal, check CP.
@warm monolith ensure scarlet has more atk% than RRH and helmT remember 
No need
490k
I only want Crown Liter and Guillo to f themselves
She has two lines
Kise's cookin'
๐ฟ
just follow kise's cook
Blanc SBS Biscuit Noir Rumani check cp
I'm coming for you Railtracer (but not by train don't worry) || also I'm still miles away ||
342k
maldin' widly i see, proud of you 
for reference:
I won't get out of 20
My sbs is 105k but i have 53k biscuit
just post screenshot of those 2 teams 
heh, nice one
His team CP graph looks like exponential but upside down
told ya, headache material unfortunately 
How much CP does Noir and Rumani have and how much does Blanc Biscuitt and SBS have

Wrong person
Noir 59k rumani 63k blanc 60k biscuit 53k and sbs 105k
What rank is this
No? Should i go for 6th instead?
This is 5th
You literally said this is 5th
This is 6th
Then we hit the 5th
I use these teams?
Noah Rumani Biscu Cindy HelmTr should be able to kill the last team...
Shut
If you can make me win this,ill reward you with a thumbs up

Isnt this the vid where Helm stole ur indomitability
I have the option to buy noah lb tho
I don't think a LB or two will matter much
unless you can go like core 7 anyway ๐
Im buying a core for folkwang then
now hol'up
What about pepper
Or priv
Or should i buy helm cb instead
Can u tell me how much HP does Rapipi and HelmTr have
changing your mind so much my head spins ๐
Rapi rh 105k thelm 106k
Im waiting for bay treasure,the day will come.
Answer
.
should probably be careful and invest properly on your pvp core units instead 
biscuit, jackal, blanc, noah, rumani are tanking your CP so those should be a must to bring up to speed
in fact naga being the most invested it's already a bit strange
Helm,wife material,invest in her
That was my core
Before i know what meta is in the game i already had like 4 ol gear full invested helm,she did get her treasure after that
ye that was a good decision tho
What was that again,oh blanc thingy,idk

Wow is it Naga heal at 5 shots
would make sense, might've messed up by healing RRH 
Yeah it healed Rapipi and Jackal
I still dont understand by watching this clip,tho i gotta take profecials do their job
Now for the blacksheep how much is Jackal HP
216 sum
Cus looking at that Jackal's HP might even be lower than Rapipi
2.16 
inb4 we gonna have to run jackal with vigor cube 
Rapirh 2,166,242
Thelm 2,208,567
Jackal 2,167,060
so close 
Is this bad
Ok Rapi shud take indom
1k difference 
But if u wanna be safe u can give Jackal Vigor
I was using quantum
Now equip Vigor cube on Jackal. How much is her HP now and what level is ur Vigor
@tropic summit peak spa experience. I was waiting for koonta to get on so that I get c3 and then he gets c4 pushing lazarus down to c7 
welcome to the jungle
Unionless
I have them all bloqued to check on their logins
you're pretty much guaranteed ch3-ch4 at this point 
Vigor level 4 her hp is 2,164,360 now
main account in CA 
Thing is, you remember that mygo guy that gems me on c1? I already made him waste like 600 gems, so now I changed my focus to c3 to still get 3k gems 
I don't even know koonta, but he is clutching this by getting lazarus down to c7 haha
Now lvl5 with the same amount of hp
making ppl waste gems and still earning 3k, true 4D chess player 

Noah Biscu Naga Cinderella Rumani
Check cp
395k cp


T1 - Noah Biscu Naga Cinderella Rumani
T2 - Rapipi Blanc Crown HelmTr Jackal(Vigor)
T3 - Skip
Check CP.
395401 and 443675
Should be safe.
Im going
๐ฟ
Send it. And record.
Im 100% gonna see HelmTr stealing Indom again.
Why is the enemy making T1 team in reverse
My headache is too much I need sleep
I made the video 480p for it to load faster,sould i do 720p instead?
Make it 720p
480p will look like pixels
Guess he lost again 
real tetris player 
Now @tropic summit shall we do teams for the second in the rank? It would be fun and no cp difference at all

i mean we can take a look at least
inb4 they running some weird dumb things 
620k 768k 620k.
I smell sarcasm
alright see you in a few months
See you in never*
Hes not gonna catch up with a whale
THOUGH,the third one is 436k 394k 348k
yeah definitely
We could go for that
third one is doable 
@warm monolith video doko anyway, let's see how well ur RRH did
Im still waiting for his vid then I sleep
I need to try again,one sec
indeed, you've done well and deserve sleep 
Nah u do that urself. U ask too much alr. Time to graduate.
surely he has learned how to build a linked team now 
I need to download dicord on my pc,which it couldve been easier if it isnt banned
@unique wagon Go sleep,itll probably download when you woke up
I blame Naga tbf
well yeah the healing there didn't help, messed up indom priority especially with how close we saw those HP are 
1k difference in HP is kinda daring
Its not my fault,i didnt think pvp would be this complicated
No, Jackal and Rapipi had lowest HP. Naga healed 2 lowest HP and made them healthier than Helm. Helm took indom.
<@&946725432554836008>
God ur interneet so bad
ye that's what i meant with healing not helping 
Google crashes
@warm monolith making kise miss on his beauty sleep 
My pc has 16 Gb of ram
Its finally loading
Here it is,i learned my lesson im gonna download discord on pc so i dont need to took that long,sorry @unique wagon and @tropic summit also thanks for your efforts,good nights
@unique wagon it's here 
say thanks to kise i only gave moral support 
@unique wagon Thanks
Youll be helping me to beat third guy?
assuming you've a chance, post their teams
64 isn't enough sometimes
Ye
Which pilgrims you miss?
Quite a lot, can't check rn bc i'm in tower rn. But I have the main meta ones outside of rh 
but really i wouldn't mind a
either
@tropic summit i was re logging back to the game but the third guy get down to the fourth,there is no way we can win against the new 3rd and fourth place isnt matter so much rn
His Rapipi must be so weak he takes so long to kill with Crown S2, Crown S1, Blanc dmg taken, and Helm S2. Which makes it 40-50% atk dmg + 64% caster's ATK + 40% damage taken
I win against this at 19% deficit.
Just today he open boxes and try to cp pad me with 22.1% deficit lmao
Ye,things
the amount of ppl that have RRH with high atk%, high ammo and high elem in PvP is gonna be very limited 
I only have one of them
still somehow delivered at least
rh sr15 is so squishy
ig even cp is same, sync lv matter
OBVIOUSLY?
why you bully 72 lvls below 
I have 3 line of atk (38.26 in total) one elem dmg 23,56 and 1000+ ammo
only need ele, ammo and atk are already pretty gud
And not 10 10 10 too I bet
The explode didn't hurt at all
Not building Rapi when u don't have Emi is trolling tbf
Nuh uh

there are not many people setting up RH in rookie
She is 10/10/10 but i didnt know the game since bay banner,dont blame me
She has SR doll 15,skills 10/10/10 with lvl 8 resiliencu cube,her 3 piece of ol gear is lvl 5 and one is 4
- Delayed AoE + AoE Follow Up - Emilia
- Continuous AoE [Strong, Scarlet/Jackalable] - RRH
- Continuous AoE [Weak, Tauntable] - SAnis
- Continuous AoE [Immunable] - SBS
- Continuous AoE [Why?] - A2
- Targeted Snipe - HelmTr, Rosanna
- Snipe with Strong ST Follow Up - XMaiden
- Splash, Bruise - LaplaceTr, Emilia Off-Burst
- Only Wipe - Rei Ayanami, ReiT, Summer Sakura*, 2B, Harran, etc.
- Very Strong Wipe + Weak ST Follow Up - Cindy
- Wipe + ST Follow Up - Scarlet, PrivM, etc
- Wipe + AoE Follow Up - Ein (if not taunted)
1RL
pretty risky tho and you are 23 level gap against your opponent
Should be safe as long as there's no 15%+ deficit no? 
ye

Is Xmaidenโs burst targeting just whatever she is hitting at the moment at the moment she is bursting? (So will probably be into enemy P1 unless target skip?)
Typically yes. There are rare instances this doesnt happen due to taunting shenanigans
Xmaiden would be a poor man's helm phase 3 counter to scarlet teams if bursting with her
Your Rossanna also max core vs RH core +1. 
Could have just add lapT.
What's the best way to beat this ass
No Treasure sadly
Noah biscuit Emilia stall.
2.5-3RL Indom SBS/Emilia works too
I'll try it, thanks!
Red hood can also work, probably better if your Elemental dmg is decent.
I would've avoided Cinderella there but you still won.
Cinderella feeds noise scarlet and jackal too much already given your blanc
And she's not contributing any burst gen
Imo you're better off not adding to the bullet count if you absolutely can
4 on attack trigger nikke
I was very down today and open up my molds out of desperation but luck was bad, same to Doll, OL rolls, standard and friend pulls... Anyway, got the Bready at least since no more other resources left to use I had to pull for her because it would ruin my day if I just stopped. 
waos
Guess I would build Elegg+Bready team someday after I'm done with OL arena units.
anyone got info on crust?
My luck on Pilgrim mold remain 25% today. I was saving for 10 pilgrim molds for better luck. 
1% pilgrim? More like 0.5% to me. This game is rigged.
I OPENED 4 GOT 4 RARE
rrrrrrr
Idk your average %.
Mine is 25% since the beginning of my account. 
i will wait til siren before i open mine
less risk of a Cindy dupe since mine's already max 

What if crust is rl clip?
I would skip her then. 
I think i'm 2/5 for pilgrim molds atm. One rapu and one noah
Click bait
Very bait, don't even know if she is RL. 
XD hopefully they give info cause if gonna be nother TIA NAGA I would miss out again
Burst? Or fan art?
burst
If they want to make Crust interesting then she needs to be a supporter that buffs either distributed or sustained damage depending on squad position.
It sucks to skip sometimes just barely got bunny soda yesterday
I did 963 standard pulls and 1670 special pulls from the beginning of the account by counting the tickets.
But only 15 Pilgrim&Overspec from pull. (22 total 4 from ticket 3 from molds)
This is also 0.6% Pilgrim rate instead of 1%. Not even counting I did around 500 pulls during pilgrim/overspec banner at 2% pilgrim.
So overall Pilgrim rate is really 0.5% for me. 
Idk when luck will come for me in this game.
Maybe after EoS announcement. 
A math was made
and most Gacha are actually
1.99 instead of 2:00 rate
others 0.99 some guy did a math I didn't understand and basically he said instead of getting what u want sometimes u flop (or most times)
1.99% and 2% doesn't matter here they are the same thing. 
cause that 0.1% matters
Well either way I understood nothing so MEH
It only matters when 1% is actually 0.5%, and 50% is actually 25% for me.
If I got 0.9-0.99% Pilgrim I won't complain.

Is Laplace with Treasure still worth to build up for PvP?
Yes. But helm firsy
My helms been done that why idk if I should just save my resources and not do Laplace
My Laplace is maxed treasured too just not Olโd and skills reset to 1
Thought I had to do Drake 2nd?
It kinda hurts when people post pilgrim dupes x 2-5 and complain they couldn't even get banner units in 100 pulls when I could only get 1 pilgrim in 200 pulls on average. 
Unless thereโs no Drake Treasure yet? I thought there was
Treasure units without OL, might as well throw them into the trash can. What are you doing not even spare mats to OL her?

It has been months so nice you said you didn't have her OL. Just don't fing treasure her if you can't even OL her.

Realized too I have no currency to OL because leveling up been taking all of it 
So does Drake have a treasure yet or nah?
You are just very bad at spending. That's all.


Maybe you was lucky to get LapT upgraded in 30-200 blue or something and keep flexing about it while not even want to invest in her.
Might as well not saying your Lap is with treasure after all.
I was gonna invest into her but thatโs when Helm Treasure came and everyone said do her
So I just stopped and just recently finished her
It's been months, stop with the excuse.
You was just lucky and keep flexing about it.
If someone seriously spent a huge among (equivalent to 1000+ blue on average) of doll mats to upgrade her SR15, they wouldn't have left her there to rot. So stop with your flex when you were just lucky and not even want to build her. Now build whoever tf you want and stop coming back to ask.
When was I ever flexing about her tf I barely talked on here
Everytime I saw you post here you keep saying your have LapT but not even build her. Only lucky guys do that. Then, just don't.
No need to get all mad when Iโm asking because Iโm given different answers
Idk how is thats even flexing Iโm just a lost mf
Second option I was given was Drake to do her treasure but on Prydwen thereโs no info so how tf would I know all these news about the game when I donโt be up to date
CA in around 3 days
soon 

Don't worry, I ran out of currency on ol'ing stuff too
โ๏ธ ๐ซ
See u in CA globlul peeps 
would this work?
2 for sure but 1 I don't think so
maybe I should put jackal in Cindy team
left lose
right might win if you put alice in p1, sbs p2, blanc p3, rumani p4, jackal p5
is there a way to calculate approx what lvl your nikke should be based on when you started?
is the difference in CP too much?
Yes
Thank you!
You can calculate by doing bigger cp- smaller cp/bigger cp
If 15.4% deficit or more, a stats penalty is applied
Thank you for the tip
It's ignorable, if you can kill before Noah's shield
With RH and Trina, Scarlet will drop Tsar Bomba to enemies' comp
2sec of immune will provide plenty feeds, and it's 2RL vs 3RL, should be a win
Rh is on the left far side 
He maybe will reposition 
i will reposition
#pvp-arena message
This is 19% deficit
is this better?
yes, put Quantum to Trina and Jackal
Would probably do scar helmt trina rh jackal just to make sure trina doesn't die
๐ฟ
why cindy P1 or P2 will cause your opponent to burst faster? or why cindy is not recommended to put on P1 and P2?
Cindy P1 allow your opponents to run 1RL comp
so my team will able to hit an extra target thus my burst generation will be faster?
how to get 7 targets? P1 C1 P2 C2 and extra copy isnt 5? when cindy in P1
P1/2/3 abd Cover 1/2/3 abd decoy
Cause of Decoy, opponent will shoot at P2 instead of P1
Ohhhh my team will always go for decoy first then the cindy?
yep. Cindyโs decoy is the target
holy no wonder 1RL, thats insane
btw cindy vs SBS which is better for boss if we exclude the elem damage? was thinking to upgrade only 1 for higher cp due to lack of rss
Cindy better for bossing i think
my current campaign team is crown, naga, SBS, liter, alice
if i use SBS for boss, the damage diff between cindy and SBS is it huge? or i can main sbs and do just fine
alrights but alice first then sbs? since alice burst have much higher damage?
boss dependent
many parts to pierce = alice more dmg
no core no parts = sbs more dmg, a lot more dmg
ahhhh
Just run SBS Alice until ch36 
train fall under parts, then gravedigger falls under no core no parts?
Grave digger got some parts and last phase has core typically
got it got it
ok here's a fun question
sbs vs RHB1B3 indom
which one is more effective
note: this is against your generic noah cindy team
๐
SBS hits lowest def, AoE, distributed dmg (can be countered by taunter + biscuit)
RH shoots p5 being SR (on attack), single target, can get stuck on taunter or indom
issue with RH
issue with SBS
the answer is: it's situational
perks of using RH
perks of using SBS
Hmm, interesting
that's what I was wondering, RH has potential but single target really hurts
I need to smoke more crack to understand these
maybe dia 1 isn't so bad
well I found myself at dia 2 so rip
get dia rank 11-12-13, they're the least contested
if you wanna rest in comfort 
14 gud too
everyone is progressing
can't even compete with ppl I used to fight
my acc is so slow
tell me something new 
push more campaign ๐

Excited for CA? ๐
Offense?
your defense needs to survive these 2
def
def is lost cause
Indeed
you cannot defend 
Especially at higher level
i know my opponents have rosanna
release of trina and helmT made it only worse
tell me 2 strongest offensive teams
it was already kinda over with emilia anyway
these are no brainer
T1 punishes anything that is not 2RL
T2 aims to out trade
everything is 2rl nowadays

no rumani
2RL noah is punished by 2RL emi, the other team just run against noahless team with ultra stall
opponent cannot defend anymore on equal invest, just rock paper scissor them
CA is gonna be a jungle 
It do be like that
so this is opponent teams
cindy team 2
scarlet team 3 ?
we need to flawlessly 5win every match to be a champion
Yeah easy win
no rumani. what to use?
Can run scarlet emilia trina rh centi and noah biscuit sbs helmt jackal
Quantum on emilia, trina and centi
from experience you know that's not true 
man , I started to hate pvp
Raku cooking
I can't figure out what's wrong. I keep changing teams, trying one thing or another, but I keep losing. This is my teams on DEF atm. Im allready loose and down -3 place. Whats about this teams?
Those are decent teams. Defence nowadays much easier to crack, such is the state of pvp
Would it be worth to use some of those Mats to push my Syncho to 160 .. ? I could probably clear more Solo Raid levels and also continue even more chapters .. I'm currently at CH20-28, very close to mother whale as well. But I'm really not sure .. I still plan to break 160 wall during Anniversary, but I'll need even more Core dust for that.
F.. Wrong chat.
Swap Rapun with Helm and it should be better. Replace Anis with high cp RL
Like this?
Put Rapun in P1 and uโre good
Ok thx, i switch Scarlet with Rapun
2 RL Cindy:
This comp is strikingly similar to what @warm monolith and @fiery parcel fought
Focus on building Laplace
@unique wagon btw im in nineth place now
You woke up the lion
my cooking is not trustworthy cause i'm not even sure it will win or not
I got SR 5 doll on biscuit
T2: Noah Biscu Cinderella Trina Noise
T3: SBS Naga Noir Pepper Jackal
Check CP.
If you are defending how do you know what he is attacking you with?
So ure looking for defense teams.
@unique wagon can bay go along with any pvp teams?
Yes.
With whom
Noise Bay and Moran Bay is probably the only duo I can think of.
You can 3:3 this with full roster.
Test.
You and I might be in the same special arena. January and Penny is in mine
this was about the rookie one though
One day we will be in the same rookie bracket
Ah. Youโre dude. Iโve seen you before
I am not sure my account has anything special
do you guys have squad recommendation for arena battle?
Progress report
Based on people units 
oh ok, ill brb
Is that a Google Sheets or something? Mind sharing the link?
absolute hero, cheers!
-# Once again, I read it as birb ๐ฆ
@umbral crown let's birb
Auto and hope for the best





I did learn pvp cooking now gonna be master chef soon echocho san

what is the best way to describe this team
Noah SBS team
Finaly all skills / doll SR done
I can slow down the pvp invest a bit on this account
Also teams work still fine thx to Rail
crusty cooking
A Scar Trina and goodbye
I don't buy it
You have to 
emi ๏ผ
I love inflicting mental damage to people in this game
|| d e e z n u t s ||
Emilia
So, to describe this team means to conquer it? (I'm not a native speaker
Yes Command & Conquer or something
Didnโt know this word could be used like that lol
wow. a bracket where nobody is wasting gems
you're the one who keeps having mental breakdowns due to this game
People had a gem fight for #1 position
I think I was seeing around 4k gems used in around 48 hours
I stopped watching them change #1 and #3 slots after a while
it's pointless wasting gems to go from 3rd to 1st
damn
Heck I even joined in to piss off the rank 1
I think I burned around 2k to troll him
Rank 1 probably lost 15k gems in the span of 3 days
man i cant get a single break ๐
The great battle for rank 1
me and u buddy , me and u ๐
Then other people were hitting in between
no the thing is , rank 2 i cant get to him nor anyone can because of his cp , only rank 1 could , but i can on rank 1 , rank 1 can on me , and some rando others can on him but cant even reach
They usually alternate between hitting me and rank 1
rank 2 at this point is afk idk , hes consistantly rank 2 and never attacks
@tropic summit got a question for you whenever you have the time 
meanwhile rank 3 and 1 ๐
like blud i got helm like yesterday , and somehow im worse and now in #4 ๐
I haven't seen rank 1 swap spots in a while so I think things cooled down
hopefully i have enough for #3 or 2 placement at the end of the season but man is it infuriating
and idk how , idfk know
but when he swaps with me , its immidiately after i go offline , like 60 tokens and i get swapped , even if i stay up late so its like wtf are u on sterroids?
I have a 8 hour gap to take rank 1 before they wake up
That's when I put in my hits
They have to sleep eventually
shoot ahead
OK I'm shooting 
not my people ๐ i hit him at 3 am nah , i hit him at 7 am nah , i hit him at 12 pm nah , before the reset nah , at the reset nah
Good to know that Moran Bay Helm can conquer Blanc team
(though she gave the wrong indomitability. I think it can deal with RH bursting as well. Still need to try, but Iv never met a ndomitable RH in my server...
I want to force my opponent to use Noah
i wanted a second opinion on this but I want to run this sbs team but the problem is my sbs has the highest hp of all the other 4 even with vigor (especially rumani)
what do i do here?. I can't replace for jackal bc she's on my scar team
that's actually fine, p1 and p2 will receive damage, even if enemy goes SR and trie to snipe rumani, she'll get invulnerable... and you're bursting with her which leads to her getting massive hp increase.
hence, it's very likely SBS is selected for indom due to p2 splash dmg, blanc that cannot cast indom on herself, and rumani that even if down to 50% will likely have more hp than SBS once bursting, even without vigor in the equation
only Laplas and Emilia can beat your P3, and SG beat your P5
what is that crap 
Idk man but that's rank 2
using emilia when you see noah lol
Yeah that make sense. I tries this comp in rookie but it's very hard bc no one is really running a lot of RLs for splash and have at least one SG so rumani gets hit and I always
And I never die so I dunno who would get indom
No emi in my bracket
only thing that makes me
is SGs bc rumani
well in that case run a different comp 
if SBS gets no damage she won't get selected for indom, but if you're attacking that's on you
on defense it's in the hands of the opponent making use of that
if enemy is running CS% and is on 2.5RL, run 2.5RL s.anis
else run 3RL s.anis
on the assumption enemy is not running CS%, you can go 3RL s.anis
enemy team is also weak to 3RL emi, if you've got her
whether indom or via noah up to you
So ShadowScarlet had more than half of Rumniโs HP before Burst Time?
@keen vapor when will this man actually make pvp teams 
Never 
Soon

nice looking good 
i'm gonna pinch your nipples 
Also it's only RLs that causes splash dmg right?
splash dmg is done by all rocket launchers, minus a few cases
-cindy
-SBS
emilia hits p1 p2 and p3, unlike others
cindy and SBS only hit p1 iirc
in your case opponent is just weird af 
if you had CS% on your own, probably wouldn't happen tho
just thinking of that gives me headache 
More focused on getting soda pvp ready
stun meta 
And with so many good units released one after the other lately, can't spare rocks to reroll CS on pvp units
soda dizzy๏ผ
Gotta wait for their alleged rework this month
Maybe yes maybe not since Scar didnt get her indom.
Altho I wonder why Scar didnt get her indom
Shots hitting Jackal not damaging Scarlet
I mean as long as they dont realize ure good
Maybe Helm messes up the indomitability between Jackal, RH, and Scarlet
Lesson learned. Always put Vigor on RH/HelmTr if using Blanc Trina Jack (for whatever reason) @tropic summit

best def team for rookie arena rn?
can pick from here #pvp-arena message
that or opponent actually put vigor on scarlet instead 
tysm
try any of these, if one loses try the other
rookie teams generally prefer 2RL
Oh thats rookie
@unique wagon yes, seems like you can read 
I totally can
although i saw that
No proof, just lies
........ I just logged off
(claim it first if you can)
oh RIP 
Why you asking anyway
i wanted to calculate your estimated position
Rheax yesterday shared a pretty neat formula 
I have 153k points iirc 
hmm
But my bracket keeps shifting, everyone in top 10 made it to top 3 at one point

Scary 
meanwhile Hime 

or even better/worse
LMAO

I still need to watch that actually
stop before the last season so you can still think it was a decent watch 

watch last season at your own risk instead 
Anyone got a team to go against this one?
can try this i suppose
(your team is on the left)
No Emilia ๐
one of us
@tropic summit is there anyone with a 38% CS Emilia?
Sakura negates sbs defense. Blanc sbs/Alice sakura biscuit flexburstbattery
The most minimum, ghetto thing to do would be naked defender P1 + biscuit, naked defender ensure they are lowest defense so SBS distributed targets them even without taunt, and then you can tank enemy for 10 seconds
And then just use any continuous dps
You can even do delayed Cindy or something
Oh yea Blanc also easy solution
Can do Indom rapi 
once c2-c3, always c2-c3
why yes i love throwing my gems away
i am intend on participating in CA i will use the money i got from SPa just to get my rank back
imagine sending this img to someone without any context
@worthy knoll Did some quick tests. Moran + Nero kinda works. Ludmilla + Nero, not enough, even with Quiry.
Told you Lud Nero is a bad idea 
If its not 100% DR or at least close to it, its not good
And I guess your Nero isn't invested enough yet? She still takes damage instead of just 1
Hmm doll also 17%?
Well not sure where the missing DR is Moran burst + Nero S1 max stack + Doll + Tempura >= 100% should make all damage 1 unless someone is inflicting damage taken debuff
No doll lol
Ahh guess so its the doll then 
Nero noise makes more sense together albeit you'd gimp a Cindy team
Using Moran's anti AoE buff feels like a waste against a non AoE team though
You can make that Anti AoE too though
But yeah offense wise maybe it feels that way
But you still have your Scarlet
Keripo whats ur 3 main defense for pvp in sp again?
You haven't use you Biscuit either
Or recommend
I see the pattern
End game SP Arena meta
Why no redheads?
Nikke needs more green

Not enough of consistent shade
No anchor for t2 
We need more redheads, I think we only have 3? 
Treasure Helm generates a lot of Burst, right? Is she good enough to outpace/replace Jackal, or is that still a niche that only the dog can fill?
@worthy knoll Yeah this is definitely an attack only setup, no good against most other teams except SAnis
its the most meta team cuz 866 
Its good against SBS too
One without Blanc
But I think with HelmT burst, it can still survive against Blanc-ed SBS, well not sure 
Hmm did you doll her already?
damn. maybe i should use nero in pvp after reading all of this
No, doll mats don't grow on trees lol
And I don't think I need to atm anyway
If she had you could have won against that kind of Scarlet, one without Blanc











