pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

OH RIGHT

MY POPCORN

[pale knoll]

Damn, I'm really curious

Add the lvl 14 resi cube and she has even more ele

[tropic summit]

23 hours and 30 minutes to go

[pale knoll]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

[umbral belfry]

[lunar dirge]

@umbral belfry

[tropic summit]

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

you get her right?

[lunar dirge]

Not 1st time for me #pvp-arena message

[umbral belfry]

april fools

[tropic summit]

🥜

[umbral belfry]

get who

[main gate]

Please recommend me 3 arena teams

[lunar dirge]

no, it's my neutral special

[shell hazel]

your pfp lady

[tropic summit]

smugness overload

[umbral belfry]

zzz pog

i'll get cantarella one day

[lunar dirge]

what smug ? me 🗿

[shell hazel]

I went for her, over anyone else 😄

building Trina Railtracer. what skills do I need for basic battery duty?

[tropic summit]

4/4/4 my good sire

bet you didn't see that coming

[lunar dirge]

Eeeh, depends on you planning using her as a scar buffer

[tropic summit]

if planning to use her at some point with cindy or scarlet, go for 4/7/7

[shell hazel]

might be 4/4/4 for now just due to skill manuals

alright done, I need to get a chest for her, AI today just gave me dumb rocks

i'll OL boots for now

[umbral belfry]

i feel like reading this just before i did ultra doomed my luck

[shell hazel]

pull for Cantarella it will save it

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

what are the odds RNG is bad on 2 gachas at the same time on the same day

[shell hazel]

pretty high correlation

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor how's the ~~battlefield ~~your bracket going?

[umbral belfry]

I can stg 4 ultra now

[umbral belfry]

Also you jixned me, I only got 1 rock and nothing else

[lunar dirge]

he is the victim of his own actions

[stone iris]

Rail could you help me cook some sp arena def teams?

I currently cooked up:
Noah/noise/Cindy/Rumani/centi
Scar/Trina/Helm+/Rosanna/Jackal
Blanc/Emilia/RH/Biscuit/Centi

[forest birch]

Holy shiiet this guy mad

[umbral belfry]

low level gemming

[forest birch]

Man just threw his pocket change into my face cuz I knowledge checked him

[next geyser]

low tier god

[forest birch]

It took him 8 tries

[misty finch]

Any recs for SP defence teams? 2 people have decided to target me 😭

[keen vapor]

Where are your overloads

[forest birch]

Man wanted 2nd place just for 4-10th place gem results

[misty finch]

Currently working on it 😭

[keen vapor]

When

[umbral belfry]

[misty finch]

But the two guys are about equivilant CP and have cracked my current teams

[umbral belfry]

now take it back and let him get mad again

[misty finch]

I think they're attacking the cindy/s.anis teams and winning

[umbral belfry]

Who has the lowest hp on your 2nd team

[misty finch]

Probably centi

[umbral belfry]

centi indom

[misty finch]

Scared to put noise in P1 in case she dies pre-burst but maybe I can try

[umbral belfry]

If that team isn't 2-2.5 RL I wouldn't imo

[misty finch]

Yeah it's 3RL

[umbral belfry]

No noah I'm assuming? or not built?

The problem for T2 is that unprotected blanc is usually bad, and then (assuming she doesn't die before burst) centi could be the one getting indom due to her lowest hp. A biscuit for t2 could help blanc, but iirc sanis also wants bisc

[lunar pawn]

nope, biscuit protects cindy

[umbral belfry]

I'm personally running noise-centi-cindy-helmt-xmaiden, which is 2RL w/ quantum lv3 on xmaid and centi, granted my noise is pretty beefy which helps her survivablity

[misty finch]

Yeah no noah 😔

[pale knoll]

Didn't one shot?

[umbral belfry]

You might need to show your entire box then. I'm assuming t1 is for cp padding, but i can see some improvements to be made. i g2g to work but hopefully someone can help ya out

[forest birch]

I wanna be petty but if he's figured out the formula, at most I'd get another 200 gems out of him if I switch up the positions

[misty finch]

Yeah Alice and RH are there for padding since the other 3 are good enough for a team

[umbral belfry]

Dang

[umbral belfry]

Thankfully RH is already pretty good for a scar trina team. I would recommend switching out alice for a burst gen/clip rl-sg if it doesn't lower your cp too much. maybe put alice elsewhere

but for now i must go

[forest birch]

Not worth for me if it's just another 5hr of chips. I'm in it for the gems .I'm practically f2p rn until anni so it's a whale losing to me lol

[misty finch]

Full box

[umbral belfry]

Your scar might not be linked for t1 i just realized check that

[misty finch]

She isn't 💀

liter time 😭

Also who do you think I should invest dolls on?

[forest birch]

He doesn't know that I'm logging his hours though so I'll attack him when he's sleeping either that or I'll figure out he's account sharing , never sleeps , or is taking this even more seriously than me

[lunar pawn]

I could try to find the video but emilia nuke is blocked by biscuit invul on cindy

[solemn matrix]

"Hey <Player>, I'm gonna need you to lose this round for me."

[glacial hound]

it should be pretty easy to fail all though

just bet on the guy with lowest investments

[sudden leaf]

it's still not feasible to make three 2RL teams right?

[glacial hound]

it should be

just might not be the best teams

yea even without emilia pascal you can do x3 2RL

clip SG + rosanna sac can probably make a 4th

[swift mango]

Finally 3/3 the whale after awhile. Let's see if he looks at this comment and changes his def asap.

[warm vortex]

should i level up my Moran and Noise's Body and Leg pieces to 5? (currently at level 2 OL).

it's pretty expensive tho

[glacial hound]

helm p1

[unique mountain]

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Body maybe, leg 2-3 enough. Defending on the mats you have ofc... Moran gained more from leg than Noise.

[swift mango]

Alice finally not useless for once. Better than Emi in this case.

Alice was with Wingman cube lv5 as well, not even bastion.

[wise horizon]

Thanks to you guys @swift mango @quick lake @tropic summit

Wanna see if this guy can be topple.

[umbral belfry]

for some reason seeing the "NO" union name made me laugh

[keen vapor]

People doing a lot of moran Bay gaming nowadays....

[glacial hound]

please use snow white blanc vs that team

its the coolest shit ever

i pray for the day someone bursts with bay in my brackets so i can bring out my snow white

hmm but you need a way to reliably remove bay's cover first

oh wait you are the one running bay

[swift mango]

All thanks to @quick lake

[keen vapor]

Won't Rosanna kill both B3?

There's no active taunt...

[swift mango]

Idk Either Moran taunt or not.

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

We also don't know if their Rosa even has any Ele line.

[keen vapor]

Ele affects water

Oh right, helm

[sudden leaf]

can I snipe this comp with my 2RL scarlet? I'm not sure how rosannas dispell works - will it hit before the b1/b2 buffs arrive on scarlet?

[swift mango]

Base Ele is only 10%. Without 2 Ele line at least Rossanna won't kill water from full HP.

Without crit

[keen vapor]

Should be

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

Wait, what Rosanna

Oh enemy

[sudden leaf]

my team on the right, sorry

[keen vapor]

You shouldn't get troubles from dispel with Trina immunity

[swift mango]

Dispel Trina immunity and Jackal link as well.

[keen vapor]

No way

Just get more buffs

Surely enemy not invested on Rosy skills

[keen vapor]

I mean, I lived

[sudden leaf]

when you say trina immunity - you mean the 2sec invuln at the start?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[swift mango]

Surely they aren't even 2.7rl and Rosa won't activate before scar wipe.

[keen vapor]

Uh huh

[swift mango]

Then Emi ded and trigger the sacc but their team has no B3 left anyway...

[sudden leaf]

it worked guys

[keen vapor]

See?

[sudden leaf]

almost would have been better to lose, at least then I could have stopped worrying about the damn CA 😞

[swift mango]

Yeah, no way they had 10%+ cs on both biscuit, Rumani

[swift mango]

T3 is a big gamble.

[signal hull]

Does this CS (CS17% on nikke deck) means if I have enough charge speed lines on a certain character OL gear?

[keen vapor]

To reach 2 RL on team 3 you need helm instead of Maiden

[keen vapor]

I don't have Snow White

[keen vapor]

Yes

[swift mango]

Rossana aren't killing LapT if you meant Nastu team.

[swift mango]

My sw isn't built... Maybe if I have spare mats after I'm done with Miranda.

I doubt Nastu has SW built either in current economy.

[harsh lake]

If I have 2.5 RL Noah team, and I'm going against 2 RL team, does Noah burst activates before enemy full burst? Similarly, how long does each burst phase takes in terms of RL shot speed?

[umbral crown]

[pale knoll]

Ayudale

[umbral crown]

A quien

[pale knoll]

Al tio de arriba

[umbral crown]

Si

Noah will burst before enemy B3

Just think as:
Enemy B1, you B1
Enemy B2 you B2
Enemy B3, you B3

[harsh lake]

But the enemy 2RL will start the burst phase before I am so wondering if that's actually true. For example, if I have 3 RL Noah team, enemy 2RL team will full brust before noah bursts

[vapid lake]

3RL vs 2RL enemy will b3 after noah, if you 2.5RL vs 2RL your noah will burst same time as enemy B3 and this comes down to RNG/charge speed rolls at that point, the side that has more CS on their batteries will hit the crucial burst a few frames faster

[misty finch]

U guys think these teams would be better than what I currently have?

Idk about soda

[harsh lake]

Ah I see, so is each burst phase approx ~ 0.5 RL?

[vapid lake]

ig can think of it that way

[harsh lake]

coolz, thanks alot!

[vapid lake]

0.5s delay between each phase

iirc

[misty finch]

Will buffs like these affect cindy burst damage? Idk if it was her or ein that had delayed damage

[vapid lake]

doesn't affect iirc

Ein is the odd one out that has weird delays and she benefits from them

[misty finch]

Is Noise worth doll SR15

[umbral crown]

Ein god

[atomic wolf]

@plush thicket

he's stupid?

what's the point of that he just wasted two attempts

go take 2nd so i can take 3rd

yeah he's stupid

the treasured laplace https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1050060846136578139.webp?size=48&name=agony~1

[swift mango]

Maybe you look easier to beat

[pale knoll]

Mejor uso de ella en pvp?👀

[atomic wolf]

hell no

here's the point

he just took third place

[swift mango]

If not then you hold c2 not c3.

[atomic wolf]

wait hmm

yeah i forgot about that

tbf i can give it to podk since he's here

i really dont care if i am top 4 as long as the guy in top 6 rot in hell and stay there until the day he dies

what does uhh noise do again?

yeah ok he's stupid, flips one team and attack

even better considering i live in a better timezone than he does

[swift mango]

There are 3 factors to consider how easy picking you are.

1- Your log in and hitting time

2- Your CP, synch level.

3- Your arena units, proper arena teams investment and how frequent you change your def.

[atomic wolf]

nope, he's stupid

[swift mango]

[atomic wolf]

i can consistently beat him regardless of what he does, since two of his teams are completely and i say completely useless

the cinderella team is easily countered by scarlet, the noise team is too bad that anything works on it

[swift mango]

It doesn't mean he couldn't beat you on atk or beat the C2 easier than you.

You just look easier picking than C2 guy is what I mean.

[atomic wolf]

since this is NA, his night will be my day, and vice versa so i have like 16 hours of advantage

i think you don't get the point

he is attacking to lose

if he attacks next time i will stay on c2 for the rest of the day unless he spends 100 gems

[swift mango]

He needs to use his hits on someone. That someone just happened to be you.

[atomic wolf]

couldn't be podk sure

honestly losing at like 10 sync above is just embarassing tbh

[umbral crown]

Blanc RH HelmT

PelG showing dominance, he finally realized he has cp advantage over weij

[lunar pawn]

#pvp-arena message
anyone got any ideas on what other teams I can use here? t2 for t3 doesn't really work, already tried

[atomic wolf]

hold on

people uses rapunzel in pvp?

[quick lake]

yep, she has her uses

[umbral crown]

Do not you?

[quick lake]

I dont

[swift mango]

You could put Rapunzel P1 unlinked in Scarlet team now.... Budget Soda

[atomic wolf]

i don't

[umbral crown]

[quick lake]

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Now people cooking with soda, CA at least brought some other units to have some uses

[oblique magnet]

how are people using soda in pvp? i'm assuming bunny soda?

[oblique magnet]

i don't have her yet 😢

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Some people are using her in SpA and rookie.

[umbral crown]

Now make one with RH

[umbral crown]

In my braxket they have not yet

[swift mango]

Mine as well.

This image is true for most people here.

[umbral crown]

Thats me since i started playing

[lunar pawn]

I'd work on soda but finishing bready for SR first lol

[umbral belfry]

Can confirm

[coarse lake]

giving soda another chance

It's not that it doesn't work, no one that has done testing had enough cs is the actual problem

Bc there is a cs amount where noise can't burst

Just need to find it

[crystal flicker]

2RL Soda

[quick lake]

1 more week left till CA

[oblique magnet]

i've been solidly in 4th, so i'll probably make it to CA, but there's no way i'd get past the first round, lol

i'm still working on my third team, lol

[rich quail]

What are we excited for?

said in the same tone as “What are we fighting for?”

[raven plover]

join CA
it has CP gap penalty

[lunar pawn]

wdym cs on soda

what are you trying to cook there

[quick lake]

cs on the rest of the units so team is at 1.9RL or faste

[glacial hound]

on the other people not soda obviously

[lunar pawn]

isn't 2RL enough? you'd stun their b2 if it's noah

[quick lake]

Being able to stun their B1 is as good. Win rate increases

or rather, better RNG chances

[lunar pawn]

I mean, sure, but pulling that off needs crazy investment

[quick lake]

🐳

[lunar pawn]

besides, as defense, most people will be tempted to run either jackal/scarlet on it, or noah teams

[quick lake]

Yeah, will need some investments to pull it off

[lunar pawn]

I don't see my soda pvp ready before SR is over anyway, or until they drop the improvement on mats rewards overall

[umbral belfry]

thoughts? gonna try this out when my current and back-up defense fails. but my sbs doesn't have the lowest hp on t1. would she still get indom in p2?

[lunar pawn]

why's alice in t2? cp padding?

switch positions of cindy and centi in t3

[umbral belfry]

cp padding yeah

no rh

[night tinsel]

Why switch?

[umbral belfry]

I was curious about that too actually p4 is usually the safest no?

granted i still should be able to burst fine

[upper grove]

If Noise taunts = splash to cindy with RLs iirc

[night tinsel]

Thanks, good point

[glacial hound]

if only trina buffed scarlet, noise b1 max hp can let enemy survive

after that, your team has less sustain than enemy

[swift mango]

Use Vigor if you wanted to be sure but if your enemy has RL units you should be fine.

[umbral belfry]

Vigor on anyone in particular? I think i'm running one on blanc rn but i have to double check

but i know it don't have much slots

[swift mango]

Blanc doesn't need HP manipulation. If biscuit or Xmaid or Rumani has lower HP. Especially Rumani, if she had lower HP you are screw.

[umbral belfry]

Yeah all of those 3 have lower hp than my sbs bc she's my most invested. esp rumani

maybe that team is too risky i don't have enough vigor slots

[swift mango]

Well, you have biscuit so defense on the case, still likely to hit SBS

[umbral belfry]

granted i do't think i'll be changing to this new def for a bit, and by then i'll hopefully have more units leveled up

[umbral belfry]

Sooo there's a chance for sbs indom then?

[swift mango]

Yes

[umbral belfry]

rumani's hp is still pretty low though

guess i'll see how it plays out one way or another ty ty

[gaunt viper]

Is 4th in SP Arena like the magic number or something?

[unique wagon]

Yes

[gaunt viper]

I've been dealing with constant back and forth from anything 2nd to 9th and now I'm 4th and no one has touched me for an entire day

[gaunt viper]

it's all coming together

[unique wagon]

Then ur avg will be hardly 4/5th

[swift mango]

P4 in arena is hardest to be hit before burst. ASS or SBS or drunk scarlet could hit them defending on the case though.

P3 could be hit by Emi.

[quick lake]

U can actually math roughly what rank u’ll end up, given ur current points

[gaunt viper]

True, that much is certain

[gaunt viper]

well that's if I remain in this position anyway

but thank you for the optimism

[gaunt viper]

I meant as rank 😅 , however thank you for the tidbit either way

[muted citrus]

Reporting back!!
Try #1 didn’t work but try #2 did work.
It seems ice maiden will proc the biscuit invulnerability sometimes… any other way around this to be more “safe”?

[tropic summit]

all 3 teams are fine based on what you currently have, in fact it's probably your best defense with balance of meta + CP in mind.

The only nitpicking that comes to mind is noah and noise positioning... could afford running

noah centi cind helmt noise to split tank p1 and p5 (especially if noise has less CS% than noah)

although being 2RL opponent gonna need to tunnel on your noah to actually kill her, unless you running low doll and low gear on her

[tropic summit]

rethink anis in p1 unless you expect her to die, centi in p1 is more than fine to survive 2RL and allow cindy to burst, especially considering noise will enemy taunt p1 and p2 to split tank with p1

[tropic summit]

what the hell that guy has issues

[valid fern]

anybody fit maid anchor into a comp yet?

[misty finch]

I ended up putting noise in P1

[tropic summit]

hmm those teams are fairly good already... although not a fan of cindy on non 2RL, especially after her snapshot nerf

keep in mind you used centi twice, here's my 2 cents instead

(find was meant to be feed, typo)

[tropic summit]

being water code is kinda bad, although her HP stacking with noise can find interesting comps with cindy

more stalling, more dmg for cindy, still gives atk% buff aswell

i'd suggest running her in a 2RL team, anything lower and 2RL scarlet will eat her alive, then you'll need a backup B2

[tropic summit]

hmm let's see

[stone iris]

Oops one was supposed to be anis

[misty finch]

Are the overall teams comps good or should I do smth else

I'll probably need alternative comps once the 2 bozos targeting me crack this defence anyway 😭

[atomic wolf]

Bro thinks this is sbs vs dorothy 😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏 goofy ass

[vapid lake]

I'm scared to be the first one to use soda tech in my bracket

[tropic summit]

oi, another victim of RNG like you

@lunar pawn

same exact thing with enemy being schrödinger 2RL

[vapid lake]

I dont want everyone to copy it and turn daily sparena battles into gachas

[tropic summit]

it's not unbeatable tho, has already been debunked

[misty finch]

Oh is soda defence not actaully good 🤔

[vapid lake]

Can beat with double taunt as long as remaining 3 units can make a full burst chain

[atomic wolf]

"Just bring shotgun team bro"

[tropic summit]

ye comps are decent, a bit questionable to use soda on that scarlet team because you've already alice also tanking burst gen, in general you want scarlet to be around 85-90% burst gen to 2RL, you're on 71% and 77% to 2RL and 2.5RL because of alice + soda

[tropic summit]

it's good if opponent has no clue of what they doing tho

might work for a while, it's worth running when you want to delay your def breaking

[misty finch]

Would replacing soda w/ pepper work?

[atomic wolf]

Also like is cindy comp supposed to lose against sbs comp

[misty finch]

I don't think they do 😭

[tropic summit]

that's decent, pepper adds p5 pressure, while you're likely 2RL now with minimal feed

[atomic wolf]

Or sbs just kills both scarlet/cindy comp?

[tropic summit]

cindy loses to any indom if she doesn't have stalling in her team (typically with biscuit or heavy sustain with noise+rapu)

[atomic wolf]

That's odd, their sbs team doesnt have indom and it still kills my cindy team regardless

[umbral belfry]

holy moly. but i think my noah has more cs than my noise right now. eventually i'd like to reroll to be optimal but rn i'm focused on rerolling my mains. should i still change the positions?

[tropic summit]

try this next, we're expecting scar to get indommed and finish off the 2 enemy survivors (she has 10s on indom on double buff to kill 2 enemies who're around 5s invulnerability)

[tropic summit]

hmm

noah cind centi helm noise would be the safest, with the downside of giving enemy 1.25x burst gen, but it's generally trivial
noah centi cind helm noise would be the best, but it needs centi to survive 3RL of splash, if she's barely invested, that may lead to trouble if noah is also dead
noah noise centi cind helm is also ok as you've centi as a safe B2 and noise should be fine on 3RL being p2 exposed only to splash, but you need to ensure noah has less CS% than noise

[atomic wolf]

With trina being a thing now, indom can be used on other teams right

Back then its just scarlet x blanc for indom

[umbral belfry]

That team should be 2RL no? so centi should be able to survive

[tropic summit]

oh ye it's 2RL with helmT, even less danger of noise/noah to die

[umbral belfry]

Yeah should be good! Having no good/built substitute for anis kills my cp though But since i'm in a good spot in SP this gives me time to continue building up my cp overall

taking rrh off my team for cp padding though but less feed

[muted citrus]

If anyone has the time to make some new sp arena def teams here’s my box!
Maybe need fresh perspective since I just rotate same people over

[umbral belfry]

also! just making sure, this means i need about 2% of feed to make 2.5RL to 2RL right?

[lunar pawn]

think my best shot at that guy is waiting til I get soda ready for pvp or something then?

[glacial hound]

yes

even if enemy uses rosanna to break link, average 14 bullets to 2RL

so you can basically treat this team as 2RL

no scenario it doesn't burst at 2RL

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

Rank 4... Used to be basically rank 6 but now it becomes special.

[swift mango]

Use Liter instead of RH if you have her max invested ofc.

RH would proc XMaiden if strong enough or Crit. There is no way around that. Your 2rl team would lose to a freaking 2.7RL team, that's how sad it is.

This is also one of the reasons I'm upgrading Miranda. To have a B1 buffer that's not trip biscuit to p5 XMaiden.

Could also upgrade Pepper.

[fallen moat]

Hi everyone ,
I'm looking for SP Arena Defense Teams advice. I wonder how much potential for optimization there is. (Onslaught is just lvl 2)

Here's my collection and current setup

[swift mango]

Guess it the best you could do with what you currently have. Rossana could switch it up a little with enough investment but yeah.

[fallen moat]

I was switching RH and Rosanna back and forth

[swift mango]

I mean changing the composition of the 2nd and third team but that works too.

[fallen moat]

but for that rosanna would need be invested, did I get you right?

[swift mango]

Yeah. You should more focus on Campaign at your level anyway.

[fallen moat]

Thank you, it helps that it looks good for what it is 🙂
currently there's one enemy in my bracket and we switch places every day twice ~

[limpid nebula]

Possible to win?

[swift mango]

Possible

[limpid nebula]

will my alice burst b4 his? idk how to calculate the rl thing

[swift mango]

Yes

[limpid nebula]

okay i give it a go

unexpected, i thought his scarlet will wipe me

[quick lake]

Doesnt really work in SPA cause of jackal

2.5RL all SG
or 4x SG + Rosanna

[quick lake]

something like this. Can burst with MaidPriv/Maiden/Bsoda

When P1 is unprotected i.e. not Moran or biscuited. Just pure brute force auto attack i guess

That’s 4k%++ attack at 2RL in P1

With decent ele%, u could possibly kill P1 and P2 in 2RL

If u’re attacking, they attack P1

Defending SG, shoot at P5

[pastel owl]

hmm blanc indom applies way slower than it should be, green text appear and scar still died

[swift mango]

Gotta kill all those exposed lone b1-2.

But Cindy and Jackal+Scarlet counter (+biscuit/Rapu) handle this defense pretty much.

I remember the best way for me to counter scar jack early game was just to SG it down though.

[quick lake]

Yeah, good in theory, bad in practice

[tropic summit]

good ol' SG team

that's gonna happen in CA for whoever doesn't have spare batteries/meta

[tropic summit]

yep correct hime, that team is essentially guaranteed to 2RL as any tiny bit of feed on scar or from scar s2 will go 2RL

[tropic summit]

you could still temporarely sub noise with RRH just for CP padding, leave rumani on p4 or p5 to ensure your B1 is safe

although you'd lose 2RL so not worth it imo 🤨

either return to former 2 meta + 1 CP pad or stick with noise and see how it goes

[tropic summit]

there's probably something else that could be done, but considering your opponents you may want to start getting CS% on ur batteries

else you gonna run into those RNG situations more often than you want to

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[tropic summit]

share your rosanna skill levels and OL% (atk%), might consider her

[tropic summit]

naga cind helm trina noise (temporary SG feed with naga, will need to be fixed)
scarlet blanc rh laplace jackal (scarlet must be 1st or 2nd highest atk%, OL included, else sub laplace with any other battery on high CP)
noah biscuit rapu s.anis emi (s.anis must be burst lvl9, no ammo OL, run resil cube)

cubes:

quantum on jackal, centi, rumani, trina
vigor on biscuit, noise, blanc, rapunzel
resil on s.anis
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

notes:

centi, rumani, trina, rapu need some more CP to ensure being usable without tanking CP, once that's done, aim for table to the right attached

[tropic summit]

depending on how invested reiT is compared to SBS, unlike SBS she won't suffer to be blocked by p1 taunter + def, as she can still burst AoE the whole enemy team. If high on burst lvl, well invested, SR5-SR15 and with some atk% OL, she can be lethal even on single buff (blanc), considered you running her with drake she'd get a minor extra atk buff aswell, could consider maxwell instead for an extra bigger buff

rest of the teams are fine, try to replace anis with something better CP wise once possible (laplace+, xmaiden), nitpicking on noah and noise ensure you've noah on lower CS% than noise to ensure p1 taunt, else might aswell move noise to p5 if noise on lower CS% than noah (you can split tank)

[tropic summit]

@eager mountain @pale knoll playing tetris with the whales and dodging the chinese triad at same time

just le CA come already i'm tired boss

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/you-cant-leave-mr-wednesday-american-gods-you-have-to-stay-you-are-not-allow-to-leave-gif-18728459

showing them who is boss 😄

[tropic summit]

3 of those below me just need to sneeze and my teams fall

[shell hazel]

they're just pay to win folk, keep stealing top 1 and they'll get tired in the end 😄

[fathom rock]

Wait why is your commander lvl higher than mine

[eager mountain]

[fallen moat]

thank you very much.
cp-wise reiT is about 10% below SBS at the moment, but I should have an easier time to push her a bit higher.

with noise not being invested yet I had the issue of death to SGs on p5. noise and noah had the same cs%, but I'll try to give noise more and see how it goes.

[covert lintel]

your account bricked?

[woven carbon]

hello everyone hope you had good april fools today (or yesterday) 👋
i need a new team for SP arena attack team. was using random characters as team except team 1 since they are my strongest team
i am up to grind the character if needed to

this is my setup as of rn

[lost mulch]

which ones better for emma?

[quick lake]

Doesnt matter too much. Endurance is fine

[lunar dirge]

how early are you into PvP to use emma?

[quick lake]

or maybe he's super late game

[placid bloom]

lv5 endurance look kinda late game, there's no way you're buying those batteries with chips

[graceful grotto]

neither cause who used emma lmao

but emma in the stall game might be funny

@quick lake did u build soda?

[quick lake]

Regular soda? not yet. Honestly dont want to introduce her because she'll be a pain to attack

Ppl already running P1 rapun and I am scared

[graceful grotto]

Indeed

[bleak shale]

me with most arena tech tbh

so i end up building none of them

[quick lake]

2RL teams are too fast and too annoying

[lost mulch]

400 synchro, just playing arena semi casually sitting comfortably at 68

the cubes just levelled themselves up from solo raid lmao

ive just been rocking endurance cube on emma for a long time, just wondering if healing is actually better or no

[worn field]

not like thats a problem

nobody is mass spreading info on en discord's these days

[lunar pawn]

I mean, yea, but I need a solution for this week before CA, not something I'll reach in a couple months at best

I wonder if I can run blanc + redpi in t3

[umbral crown]

Bricked

[tropic summit]

how is it possible aren't we on same progress? 🤔

[tropic summit]

nope, these lads have been day 1 spenders from same date of creation

[fathom rock]

By like 1 lvl

[tropic summit]

yeah it's over retro, gonna have to reroll that one

[tropic summit]

post or link updated box and matchup again, lemme take another look there's probably another less intuitive option as long as you willing to try

[fathom rock]

When you start again?

[lunar pawn]

just closed my game, let me find my roster I posted here

roster #pvp-arena message

matchup #pvp-arena message

[covert lintel]

this is f2p bricked in my bracket

[swift mango]

@keen vapor 'bracket's 🧱 also has a higher level than Rail.

[tropic summit]

middle of moran banner iirc

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

how to sign up to cheer your matches, need to throw money at that nero

[umbral crown]

Just wait a bit more

[limpid nebula]

which team burst first?

[tropic summit]

a good time to start learning using this

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

put the two teams in, check the box with a square

[limpid nebula]

oooo been wanting to find this

[tropic summit]

i think i see it

[limpid nebula]

what am i looking at? How to like read the stats

[tropic summit]

you looking at a team that can burst on 4RL

the numbers below tell you how close you're to hit that specific threshold, eg you're 94% close to 3.5RL, but not quite enough

finally right below it's bullet count and feed

e.g. in 3RL you produce 39% of enemy burst via feed for the enemy if they're to run jackal

[limpid nebula]

so the team need to hit min 153 ammo to get a full burst? or the first burst?

[tropic summit]

that team is also essentially screaming "scarlet me" due to bullet count

[tropic summit]

no bullet is for the enemy feed and jackal/scarlet procs

your clue to understand if you bursting fast or slow is RL

[limpid nebula]

so the bot 2 stats are only for jackal/scarlet teams? (like my team when fighting them?)

[tropic summit]

that team is 4RL (slow) because you're running:

-liter SMG: very bad burst gen
-anis clip RL: very good burst
-alice SR: poor burst gen
-bread SR: poor burst gen
-pepper clip SG: decent burst gen

[tropic summit]

those 2 stats are to understand how much feed the team is producing, which can be used by jackal and scarlet

[limpid nebula]

okay so first point is that using the "calculator" to determine the speed is by determining what no. RL, so only 100% or more, that will be the RL no.?

[tropic summit]

yes if you hit 100% of a threshold or more, you're ensured to hit that RL tier

the only special case is when running jackal and scarlet, as jackal can give you access to feed to earn more burst than expected, scarlet s2 proc also generates burst when proccing

[limpid nebula]

those below 100% are like 58% chance to hit full burst? or need min 100%

[tropic summit]

there's no chance, it's either hit (100%) or not (lower than 100%)

[placid bloom]

that's how much of your burst gauge has been filled by the Nth shot

[limpid nebula]

ohhhh

[umbral crown]

Soon 750k

[limpid nebula]

when we talking about burst, so when 100%, is burst 1 or going burst 3 or end of full burst?

[tropic summit]

is when you start bursting, starting from B1

[limpid nebula]

okay i got that down

[umbral crown]

See ya later bois

[tropic summit]

specifically:

3RL is actually

B1 on 3.32RL
B2 on 3.74RL
B3 on 4.16RL

[tropic summit]

my doro

[limpid nebula]

the RL is unit for no. of rocket launcher shots? or just the name

[tropic summit]

give me your SBS and helmT hp stats and this can be set up

[placid bloom]

the bullet count matters a bit too for slower teams that burst between rocket shots, like if you're both 3RL on paper but yours is closer to 2.5 because you're still shooting while the opponent is charging their shots

so you can plan around stuff like purposely making your team slower if you're doing a Blanc/Noah mirror

[limpid nebula]

okay i kinna get that

[tropic summit]

watch amount of rockets shot here, in specific watch noah (on your side, not enemy)

the slowest RL unit dictates when you burst on a non feed team

exactly when noah hits 4th RL shot, B1 pops up

matchup is a 4RL vs a 3RL

[limpid nebula]

i cant diff the laser belong to noah or the enemy, let me rewatch

[tropic summit]

just look at noah animation and count when she turns around

[limpid nebula]

okay she turn 4 rounds

[tropic summit]

ye that's 4RL

[limpid nebula]

so all RL nikke shooting speed the same? so they use RL as the base unit for calculation?

[tropic summit]

then you can get teams on 2.5RL or 3.5RL via different methods (running SGs, running CS%17 RL...)

[tropic summit]

all RL nikke are subject to charge speed, which can speed up the time they need to charge and land the hit

if a unit is able to land more RL shoots within the same timeframe, it may lead to bursting sooner, also called 17%

[limpid nebula]

before i dive down what exactly the RL unit represent, what about the feed thing for the bot 2 stats?

[tropic summit]

example of noah on non CS% OL and noah on CS17%

[limpid nebula]

so the calculator accounts of the base stats of the nikke, but the real battle accounts for the overload equipments stats, so with the prior estimation of no.RL we just need to estimate/guess the OL equipments part?

[lunar pawn]

What's the big change for t3? Afair the problem was biscuit protecting cindy

[tropic summit]

you don't need to estimate a thing, the calc does all of that

OL is the number you see in that box

[placid bloom]

you won't know your opponent's until the actual battle but if you know yours you can assume what theirs are if they're faster/slower than you

[tropic summit]

you're hitting to kill noise B1 on double buff instead of RNGy T2

or did they have 2.5RL on that aswell?

if it's 3 teams on 2.5RL you're back to square (T1 is 2RL)

[limpid nebula]

does positioning affect the aiming targets? like P1 aim at P1 then P2 aim at P2, or all aim at P1, then i heard SG defending (enemy will all aim at P5) and following by the order P1,2,3,4,5?

[tropic summit]

give this a read

https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

[limpid nebula]

For SGs and SRs the targeting is a bit odd, if SGs are on the Defence team they’ll target the Attack team’s P5, and if the SRs are on the Attack team they’ll target the Defence team’s P5, otherwise they target P1 as well.

Targeting will prioritize P1 > P2 > P3 > P4 > P5, or if they start on P5 they’ll go P5 > P4 > P3 > P2 > P1.

(This part assuming i have 4SG 1RL, when defending, will all aim for P5 then 4321 or only apply specifically on SG while the 1 RL just keep shooting at P1)

[tropic summit]

assuming it's 3 teams on 2.5RL (or lower), let's try this @lunar pawn

in particular i need this one to understand if you kill emi or not within 2.5RL

we want SBS to B3 here

(even indommed is fine)

for T1 helmT needs to have more HP than SBS, give her vigor if needed

[swift mango]

Except Cindy. Only affect her 1 first charge.

[limpid nebula]

oh wow i won despite lower CP just because my alice burst first

[tropic summit]

that's the gist of it

aim for bursting before opponent in most cases

[limpid nebula]

so ideally i can just build 3 dps each on diff teams, and focus on including nikke for the lowest RL, so my investment can just concentrated on 3 nikke for a f2p

[tropic summit]

if only...

[placid bloom]

if you push story harder than everyone else in your range you can kind of get away with CP padding a bit

I think roughly 25-30% CP deficit is when your opponents start hitting 1s without buffers

[limpid nebula]

my SPA rank 1 broke 160 wall and lead by mini 50k CP, rest of us havnt hit 160

im like the lowest cp, lower than diam 1 and 2

[tropic summit]

you can get a better clue if you doing well or not by checking their campaign and hard campaign progress instead

if you're far behind, then you start

[swift mango]

@kind palm

Can I have your soda gif? :

I searched for it but didn't succeed.

[limpid nebula]

21-31 rank 1, that time i check mine was 17 or 18 now i pushed to 20-6 somehow

[tropic summit]

rank 1 may be a whale, check those that are more reasonable

compare yourself with dolphin, low spenders or f2ps

you will not compete with whales even more so on the medium/long term

[limpid nebula]

yeah most top players on chap 20 near mid end, i think i can 10410 alice when reset

[tropic summit]

to give you an idea, this is how the gap widened over a year+

[limpid nebula]

at this point of time still have hope to win?

[placid bloom]

just depends how much you willing to mald. You can push overclock sim too, a lot of people get scared off by the CP numbers and sit at OC 0 for a long time

[tropic summit]

if you don't get in CP deficit maybe

[limpid nebula]

i will try ratio 1 b4 reset

[tropic summit]

multiply their team CP for 0.846 and you get the minimun CP you need to meet to not incur in deficit

[limpid nebula]

will do these from today onwards

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

also Idk if you're hitting s9 on interception yet but if you're willing to mald those it's gear advantage

[limpid nebula]

still left like the 17% thing and the feed for scarlet noah stats i dont understand

[limpid nebula]

im able to full clear the easy ones, cindy 747 alice 949, grave digger and the train prob stage 5?

[tropic summit]

it's not noah, it's scarlet and jackal

[placid bloom]

Scarlet and Jackal have passives that deal damage when they get hit, so you can check the opponent's bullet count to calc how many triggers you get

[limpid nebula]

ohhhh

so the 4th tiniest stats works the same way? need 100% to trigger the passives?

[placid bloom]

last line is how much burst gen Jackal specifically nets you when getting hit by X number of bullets, since her passive always triggers every 10 hits. Scarlet's is RNG so you can only estimate for average proc rate (0.45% of burst bar per trigger)

[kind palm]

ok
it took more than an hour to make cuz I try to balance the speed

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348936199821070407/1351606976152604784/scar_soda_trina_swipe.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055439815476260894/1351652912283127919/soda_swipe.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1354290405453070497/1355950002781946186/scar_drunk__.gif

[swift mango]

You don't need hitting 9. Hitting 7 is max reward already. Malding 9 is just self important.

[lunar pawn]

Pretty sure it's 2.5RL too

[kind palm]

I wanted to add more variants of the stun frames but too lazy now lol

[swift mango]

Thanks.

[placid bloom]

he's not on AI though, SP only drops manu + rock on s9

or wait no, it drops rock at s9 and manu at s7?

[limpid nebula]

okay i got it

[swift mango]

Ah SP, lv7 is also enough. For rock and manu. Stage 9 is higher % though.

[limpid nebula]

yeah s5 is extra box for t8 i think

[kind palm]

extras

vesti pvp meta when

I drained the other guy's gems in my arena for about 10k now
too lazy to cook new def comp now

[swift mango]

#Redshoeisnotguilty movement.

[muted citrus]

4/4/4 only~

[tropic summit]

oki run this next and record

#pvp-arena message

[lunar pawn]

If only I had 2 helms

[slim mortar]

any cooks for sp def pls?

[swift mango]

My bracket r1, 4 and 6 just had the swap in less than 3 minutes lol...

I just hit the C1 and saw the current c6 at c9 and current c7 at C4. 3 minutes ago.

@keen vapor

I hope you find a bracket like this in your next reshuffle. Lots of your lv 🧱 friends here.

Trying their best

[umbral belfry]

getting phase 3 helmt today now i have something new to use

but what level for her burst?

[shut seal]

7+/10/10

[warm monolith]

What team should i form against noah/biscuit/sbs/Tlaplace/rap

[swift mango]

Common scar Trina RH/liter Centi Jackal

Or cheaper on clip rl

Emi Blanc RH crown jackal

Or even without Jackal, Noah

Moran+Rapu+Biscuit+ASS+Clip RL/HelmT

[tropic summit]

right

[tropic summit]

10/10/7

budget

10/7/7 or 10/7/5

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

@swift mango

[lunar pawn]

won 3/3 before reset, fighting this guy is a rollercoaster

will try that matchup if I can next time though

thanks

[tropic summit]

against this one?

[lunar pawn]

yea

but the guy never changes his defense

so can prob try it out next time

[tropic summit]

wonder if they know how RNGy those 2.5RL are

schrodinger def best def 🤨

[lunar pawn]

maybe he is in the lookout in this channel but never talks, or has a different username

[tropic summit]

🐀

[swift mango]

Buy it. Worth it.

[tropic summit]

give me that everyday

[swift mango]

2.5rl with Noise+Biscuit+p5 XMaiden is the new counter to Scar+Trina+RH.

I have seen this more than 3 times already. Mostly on higher level bracket.

A simple solution is just to not use RH but another B1 instead in case RH normal attack trigger XMaiden..

[misty finch]

Blanc or Moran better for def?

[tropic summit]

rather keep blanc in there

[tropic summit]

what did you do to get exiled

taking a look

[tropic summit]

rosanna stats and skill lvls btw?

[slim mortar]

7/10/10, 46.54% atk, SR11 (postponing SR15 until after 2.5 anni)

[swift mango]

If you wanted to burst with her 7-10. If not 0.

Budget HelmT is 744 actually.

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind laplace noise
scarlet blanc rh trina jackal
noah biscuit rosanna sbs helmT

cubes

quantum on centi, jackal, trina
vigor on blanc, noise, biscuit
temperance on noah
highest lvl cubes of the remaining

notes

considering raising CP on rumani, trina, rapunzel, jackal, blanc, centi

notes2

can turn cindy team in 2RL once rumani is better geared

[slim mortar]

tyvm

[swift mango]

Yesterday earning.

Started with 1 x 2 credit, 15 gems. 2 x lv3 doll missioned.

Ended with this after 150 gem.

More profitable than 50 gem claim. Just a common luck day.

[slim mortar]

as for team 1, how would the 2RL setup with rumani look like? just replace naga with her and move noise to p1?

[tropic summit]

could run this then

you get essentially 2 teams on 2RL due to already high natural RL on T2 by moving in trina and xmaiden

then with minimal feed that team goes into 2RL

as for T1 becomes natural 2RL

[dim escarp]

here's the box

(had a few month break on this one so struggle to chall 8 :/)

[tropic summit]

hmm interesting variation on the usual cindy and scar team, looks good

[dim escarp]

alright then I guess it's just over they leveled up too much

ty x)

[slim mortar]

makes sense and looks good, ty again!!

[tropic summit]

the nitpicking i'd do here is changing T3 order into

scarlet emilia rapu trina laplace

this way opponent on attack will have snipers hitting laplace, splashers hitting scarlet and emi, leaving your B1 and B2 safe

[dim escarp]

ohhh I see indeed

ty 🙏

[misty finch]

Is 84/89 enough to make jackal link scary?

Also new defence broke instantly, anyone able to recommend variations on def?

[keen vapor]

To rely on jackal link? I say no

You won't be faster than 3 RL 90% of times

[keen vapor]

It'll be helpful to know previous def

[tropic summit]

check if your scarlet has more atk% than sbs and RH (OL included), else that scarlet is gonna be ded

[keen vapor]

Oh that

[tropic summit]

might wanna try indom scarlet over glass cannon

will cost you CP although

[keen vapor]

Soda no wonder

[tropic summit]

he's also noahless

that's a big hint why they had an easy time

[misty finch]

So smth like this?

[tropic summit]

why moran s.anis on T2 tho

then again you might not have anything better

[misty finch]

Yeah 😭

[tropic summit]

yeah let's go with that for now

[misty finch]

The other comp would be indom SBS 😔

[tropic summit]

it's still somewat scarlet resistant, due to biscuit and 3 defenders

s.anis may die but you'll still possibly burst with xmaiden

other team is a 2RL and an indom scarlet, fingers crossed

[woven haven]

Could I get some advice on my arena defense comp?

[tropic summit]

damn that's a pretty good account for a synch 195

even got most core pvp units

[woven haven]

I reset many times... Then got very lucky haha

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

No Scarlet

[tropic summit]

ein blanc rh centi jackal
noah biscuit pepper rrh noir
crown naga alice rumani trina

[woven haven]

Thank you!

[tropic summit]

yeah he's got everything else tho

imagine running 3 3RL teams with noah and jackal at synch lvl 195

if he gets cindy/SBS/scarlet he's set

[woven haven]

They are on my wishlist but I know I've already been very lucky lol

[tropic summit]

you should probably aim for ch1-ch2-ch3 with that account, don't settle for less

[woven haven]

Sorry what's ch123?

[raven plover]

challenger rank on pvp

[woven haven]

Oooo... Yeah I'm hoping to be competitive. I usually do good in my rankings (top 10)

[tropic summit]

with that account you can aim for top challenger ranks unless you slacked on progress

as you've most core units

[woven haven]

I've been pretty consistent since stating. Made some mistakes due to learning the meta before reading guides and coming here.

My issue is most people. Rank 9 and under are just far ahead in levels (210-220) so it's hard to beat them

[tropic summit]

oh no...

@keen vapor it's bayover

[keen vapor]

When you started

[woven haven]

Mid January this year. At the tail end of the new years event

[keen vapor]

you seem behind yes

[shell hazel]

pushed campaign as far as you can?

[keen vapor]

Be sure to buy event stamina every time hard mode gets open

And farm 1-11 for 4 core dust cases per attempt

[shell hazel]

how my shop looks

[umbral crown]

[woven haven]

Ooo I got stuck in campaign 21-23 due to that one boss that you need to nuke with snipers or it goes invincible

[shell hazel]

you got RH should be doable

[woven haven]

Just pushed through that last week.

And I can start getting through the store in events more, ty

[shell hazel]

on every single event

buy all the event tries in store, repeat 1-11 hard for 4 core dust per try

156 hours of core dust crates is a big gain

[woven haven]

I am flush with core dust actually. Always out of credits usually

[shell hazel]

you will not be

I promise you that sometime after 200 you will struggle for it

it may not appear so now, but eventually you will be swimming in everything but core dust

[woven haven]

Haha okay, I'll keep stockpiling it

[shell hazel]

it is 10000 core dust per level after 200

[woven haven]

Next progression goal is to get 5 Nike to 200 yeah?

[slim mortar]

@woven haven just a heads up

[shell hazel]

yeah MLB wall break for 200+

[woven haven]

Geeeez

[shell hazel]

yeah mine has looked like that for a while 😄

[slim mortar]

buy literally everything

even if you don't need it right away

[shell hazel]

you can beat MW I think maybe even now?

Crown / Liter / RH / Alice / Naga - ignore everything and quick burst/RH to kill the core asap, becomes trivial after that

RH B1 => Crown B2 => RH B3

ignore the ports, ignore the missiles, just RH Spam the core (bottom centre of the whale), if you can kill it before B3 runs out you're on to be able to kill the boss

btw Rapi is actually the best B1 and I'd recommend getting her skills and power up to replace Liter

Helm Treasure eventually can replace Naga as well in various stages, so consider working towards that medium term as well

your best team for general campaign would look something like mine

[atomic wolf]

oh BROTHER

these guys wont stop attacking me goddamnit

[woven haven]

This is my inventory right now. But I'll keep stockpiling core dust any chance I get

[shell hazel]

yeah, just add more they'll run low

I currently open all my crates, but I've pushed campaign as far as I can

you need to beat MW and chapter 22 for AI to get gear/rocks better

[woven haven]

Ty hungry, yeah I got past that boss finally. Just need to keep pushing v
Campaign now I'm on 22-27 now, can prob clean that up when I have free time to get to 23

[shell hazel]

clear 22 asap even if you chill a bit after it

the AI is significantly better for daily intercepts

level 1 AI (go in and quit immediately or die) is better than 9 on old version

[woven haven]

Wow really? Okay I'll do that

[shell hazel]

plus you can target farm gear

[woven haven]

Oh I need that. Gear has been so lackluster

[shell hazel]

go for gear over kraken for a while helps to fill out your t9m gear on all your units

the only crates I don't open atm are credit ones

I open all my core dust + battle data ones, but you should be cautious on doing that

don't open crates until you need the resources, better outpost = better crates

[bronze flame]

I did that

I can’t still beat chap 33

[shell hazel]

normal?

I'm here atm

should push normal + hard as far as you can before opening crates generally

[bronze flame]

It’s just combat power is to low

[atomic wolf]

I REALLY CANT TOOK OFF FOR A MOMENT BRO

[shell hazel]

I'm doing it to stay competitive in pvp as well

[atomic wolf]

i went to play a bit of rgg

they attack
i went to play csgo they also attack

[shell hazel]

what are you running/cp?

[woven haven]

Yeah I try to do that.

Okay stupid question. I usually let my people auto attack, only manual attack on bosses (with Alice or RH). Should I perhaps be doing combat different?

[atomic wolf]

that dude damian needs to like cinderella burst himself ingame

[shell hazel]

you will need to manual some stages

later on if you want to push further/sooner then you need to manual basically all of them lol

i'm not going to be able to beat 200k+ deficit on auto here for example

[atomic wolf]

how areyou 400k at 267

[bronze flame]

[woven haven]

Dang that's wild

[atomic wolf]

its not that b

[bronze flame]

I really want to clear this but I either get one shotted or die

[atomic wolf]

oh you're phone yeah it's already over

[bronze flame]

Doesn’t matter I cleared it until now

[shell hazel]

the volleyballs lmao

[atomic wolf]

how in the hell are you guys like 400k n shit already

[shell hazel]

they are the worst

cindy isn't great here, but the volleyball stages are a right pain to do

33-5 is a wall stage

[bronze flame]

Tbh yeah I noticed but she is the one who could remotely do much dmg in so little time

But then again sbs gets yeeted to oblivion

[shell hazel]

ignore my noob sniping in the middle I normally pause tech with RH as I dislike her zoomed in view

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZcgDsZy7GA

[bronze flame]

I don’t have rh

[keen vapor]

Then Alice

[bronze flame]

Dies before I could do anything

[shell hazel]

Alice + SBS is a combo (speeds up SBS hits)

you need to super fast burst or you'll die

Helm treasure is great here for this

[keen vapor]

[shell hazel]

usually some spot on the terrain you can shoot for quicker burst gen

[atomic wolf]

any suggestion

[keen vapor]

Man team 1 is super slow

[keen vapor]

It won't improve without Helm treasure tbh

See ya until tomorrow

[atomic wolf]

welp

damnit dude

[atomic wolf]

i dont have any other built battery unfortunately

[thin perch]

Now that we have stronger burst gen units like Helm and Trina what is the strongest Rossana team?

[atomic wolf]

now it's starting to get obnoxious honestly

the fourth guy finally caved in and used a 100 gem attempt

which in turn caused the 6th guy (who is constantly on me, for some reason) to demote me to 6th

if the 4th guy wakes up again i will be damned that i drop to 6th one more time and i have to use my shits

and the 6th guy is already pocketwatching me so i cant do anything

if this shit persists even after CA qualifier i'd just kill myself honestly

[thorn pagoda]

it's just a game, and pvp is one small element of the whole game. relax lol

let them waste their gems on you. let them buy core dust for real money. let them waste their resources on you and feel good about it >:)

pvp is basically pay to win. it's nothing worth stressing out over

[glacial hound]

Just out gem them

If they constantly stay online just to attack you back you are literally taking years off their lifespan, unless they don't have a job

[thorn pagoda]

i used to login every 2 hours when i first started playing, but as time goes on you stop worrying about pvp imo

what I would do instead is attack them right before the day ends so you can waste 100 of their gems every 2 days

[upper grove]

only possible if they don't camp during reset

[thorn pagoda]

if they are from Asia and you're from US / EU, chances are they won't be online when it resets >:)

[upper grove]

my nemesis is Korean client in a Korean union and he rats me 5 AM Korea time while it was 9/10 PM for me

[thorn pagoda]

mine is from China, but i haven't fought him in 2 months

[upper grove]

5 days straight

since then I don't bother anymore

[glacial hound]

Then you are taking years off his lifespan

[thorn pagoda]

extra early for work

[glacial hound]

By forcing him to stay up late

Even better

[upper grove]

it doesn't even matter

[thorn pagoda]

it really doesn't
3 and 1st position gets 3000 gems regardless

[upper grove]

my def isn't optimal due to missing OL on pvp units while he has full pvp lineup in his defense

[thorn pagoda]

but if they waste gems on you every 2 days, it's worth it

[upper grove]

I can always hit but never defend

resources stretched thin after dumping everything into early kraken farm + SR

[dire root]

Lmao I tanked Cindy

should have brought a higher damage nuke

[glacial hound]

CP advantage?

Even with no buffer, properly invested Cindy isn't easy to survive just with noise

[dire root]

Noise didn't burst before cindy lol

their burst speed was insane because I fed jackal so much

I was betting on deficit letting me live

[glacial hound]

Jackal link tia?

Or you just killed tia quickly ig

[umbral crown]

[vapid lake]

Poorly cropped dorostare pls go to dorocord for the best experience

[wheat heart]

Can someone help explain Trina's skills? It says it raises Max HP without restoring HP constantly. I don't get the second part.

[vapid lake]

It raises max hp of ur entire team but doesn't heal them so they go from 100/100 hp to 100/120 hp for instance when she uses her burst

It helps units that scale off max hp like cindy

And units that like not being at full hp to activate certain buff

[wheat heart]

So it does nothing to help Moran be more tanky

besides 2 second invul

[vapid lake]

She meant to gigabuff og scar and buff cindy a little bit

[glacial hound]

Moran s1 triggers off missing HP %

But Moran s1 is pure defense so it's not as impactful

Maybe helps in 1 v 5 situations

Moran can 1 v 5 enemy because they don't deal damage to her outside full burst

[wheat heart]

just trying to see if there's a way a Moran/Biscuit/Sanis team can tank an AOE attack

i thought maybe Trina could help

[vapid lake]

Moran burst lv 10 should be enough no?

[wheat heart]

Maybe...I can't see what mmy opponent is using to beat me

[glacial hound]

I mean, if only Moran survives it's not useful either, just making Moran more tanky won't help against AOE

[umbral crown]

si

[glacial hound]

Unless she can clean up 1 v 5

[vapid lake]

Moran burst affects entire team

[thorn pagoda]

no advice from me. continue getting destroyed in pvp arena >:)

ah, they blocked me. i guess it's not just the game that makes them rage

[lunar pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-stewart-eat-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-3094746547306242594

[umbral crown]

[thorn pagoda]

ah, it's this guy. nvm he blocked me ages ago. he has always had a shi­t­ty temper. don't bother helping him 🤣

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-roblox-huh-cat-huh-cat-saying-huh-gif-27625167

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

bro just need to gem, ez solution. he has 26.7k gems

[thorn pagoda]

this is a guy that doesn't want solutions. he wants to complain

[mystic wind]

need team counter guys pls help

my box, sanis 10-10-9 LapT, HelmT

[sleek imp]

Chat is dis good, just got Biscuit

[glacial hound]

Unfortunately no

[crystal flicker]

That's not PvP team window, anyway based on what you have
Scarlet Poli Anis Alice/Rapipi Jackal

[sleek imp]

:c

[crystal flicker]

Liter better to boost Scarlet's Nuke

[umbral crown]

peak units

[sleek imp]

I dont have Liter sadly

[sleek imp]

is a... bad way?

[umbral crown]

good way

[sleek imp]

o nicee

[sleek imp]

Noted

[crystal flicker]

still the same for me, Alice might better to cp pad

[crystal flicker]

;

[sleek imp]

Alright

[sleek imp]

That makes a difference? power stat wise?

[wise horizon]

This guy is nuts

[crystal flicker]

yes, only to increase team cp

[sleek imp]

He lost it

[crystal flicker]

and Anis there to make you burst faster

[sleek imp]

okay, also currently doing quest cant send ss sorry

[swift mango]

And you don't even have Noah.

[umbral crown]

[wise horizon]

But still can hold out for a while. Thanks to you guys

[solemn sinew]

please help

[quick lake]

As a returnee, u'll never be able to compete in pvp

[lunar pawn]

unless 💳

[wise horizon]

@swift mango think I’m good to attack, right?

[crystal flicker]

Is this good enough to counter Helm linked

I want to test Rossa

[swift mango]

Look like you have a good chance but T3 would win against T2 easier I think.

[solemn sinew]

is it possible to compete in pvp if i continue to play it for like 3 or 6 months?

[crystal flicker]

I have a feeling Scarlet will die from Helm Nuke, but it's race against time

[crystal flicker]

I have returnee account that already played consistently for around 7 months, the most I can get is top 70

for SP

It's Day 1 account

[solemn sinew]

so it's possible to compete, but not that much high unless i swipe my card mindlessly

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986

[crystal flicker]

check your SP leaderboard

I want to see it

[solemn sinew]

wait

[thorn pagoda]

it costs like $500 to go up 60 levels

or more

[umbral crown]

2.5 comp. if rosanna well invested should be

[crystal flicker]

what's the cp for rank 30 and 50

Seems like Day 1 bracket to me

[crystal flicker]

It's 2RL HelmT Noah tho

[solemn sinew]

here

[umbral crown]

giv a try and record

if you fail to kill RH you lose

[crystal flicker]

Yeah top 70 might be possible after 8 months, depends on how fast you can break the wall and catch up with normal campaign at least

Some account in top 100 is dead account, so you can advance pretty well after you catch up with minimum deficit

[wise horizon]

T1 is good too?

[valid dune]

Henlo pls help me build a pvp team

[swift mango]

Rookie: Viper+Liter+ReiT+Trina+Rumani

[quick lake]

Never. Even if u cash alot, it will still be very tough. Ur account is still relatively new, can optionally reroll if u want

[crystal flicker]

[swift mango]

Yeah, If you swipe enough you could reach max level easily. Should be around 1000 now. You then could put out R nikke and still C1.

Doesn't matter much to reroll if your target is max level anyway. Actually it could be cheaper to just getting to max level in from your current account.

[quick lake]

sync 160 vs sync 500++. U need to like giga whale

[swift mango]

Max level should be synch 1000 now.

Or near

[swift mango]

Alternative, could just spend few hundreds bucks for a lv501+ account then swipe from there.

[crystal flicker]

I think Rossanna isn't hitting hard enough, she did deal 50% to HelmT and RH

[swift mango]

Cheaper than swipe from crash.

[crystal flicker]

How many lines I needed to make 1 shot Rosanna

[quick lake]

Even with SR5 7/7/10, 40% atk OLs
u can only 1 shot SR10 units and below

[swift mango]

Doubt, maybe r15.

[swift mango]

Sound about right without Criting and Ele lines.

[crystal flicker]

Maybe need to use Sacrifice strat

[swift mango]

If you could sacc/kill 3 nikkes before she burst I guess.

[quick lake]

Rosanna not as useful nowadays cause much harder to ohko

[crystal flicker]

She does 1 shot RH with this

Oh

So I need 4atk 4ele to 1 shot HelmT

[quick lake]

Just 4 atk, 1-2ele is fine

My Rosanna one shots with 4atk 1 ele so far, on equal sync

[crystal flicker]

7 10 10?

[quick lake]

Yep. But I kill without sacrificing

[crystal flicker]

Still pretty heavy

I need to start Kraken it seems

[silk iris]

halp do i beat him? or need to change some things

[crystal flicker]

2RL Scarlet T2, 2RL Cindy T3

[silk iris]

so keep it as is?

[crystal flicker]

wdym? that T2 isn't even 2RL Scarlet

[silk iris]

oh reg scarlet? im not too sure abt the team comps

[crystal flicker]

ye

Do you have Trina?

[silk iris]

no trina

[silk iris]

my sbs wont work? she has indom

[crystal flicker]

Biscuit counter her

[umbral belfry]

sbs hits like a wet noodle vs noah + bisc

[silk iris]

ahh i see do u wanna see my nikke list?

[silk iris]

these r my nikke

[crystal flicker]

Theres 4RL strat to counter Emi, but sadly I'm not familiar with it

[quick lake]

4RL Noah, just use slow units

[silk iris]

ahh i see

[silk iris]

slow units as in wha?

[crystal flicker]

or you can try to fight T1 with 2RL Cindy and T3 with Scarlet Blanc

[quick lake]

something like this

[umbral crown]

572 with almsot 1.6m , there is no way you can compete with that boi, even spending 500k dolla

just forget that boi exist

[crystal flicker]

or do what bricked ppl do, restart

[quick lake]

T1: Noah Centi Cindy Biscuit Noise
T2: Skip
T3: Scar Blanc RH THelm Jackal

Double check cp deficit

[crystal flicker]

This Emi condition is the reason we need Emirerun

[quick lake]

Say real just reroll, save gems for 2.5anniv

[jagged iron]

Will I always have the same opponents in Rookie Arena?

[crystal flicker]

There's bracket reshuffle every 3 months

[quick lake]

Generally the same few ppl

[jagged iron]

Well, that sucks.

[raven plover]

not like rookie matters

[umbral belfry]

next reshuffle soon be soonish no?

[quick lake]

Ensure scar is jackal-linked and u should be good to go

[solemn moth]

so i got a noah

[atomic wolf]

well yeah i'm against 4 people here

[silk iris]

just highest atk right? then yeah

[atomic wolf]

3 if @plush thicket doesn't lose his position and come after me

i went to play yakuza a bit and these monkeys are already ganging up on me

[quick lake]

looks good

[silk iris]

LETS GOOO W i won

[umbral belfry]

[solemn moth]

any tips with a third team?
im currently using
grave-centi-cindi-maiden-noise
scarlet-blanc-RH-noir-jackal
crown-biscuit-laplace-liter-alice

[quick lake]

ezpz

[silk iris]

[quick lake]

When u see SG opponents, just run scar jackal and usually u’ll win.

When u see opponent scarlet, run Noah

When u see opponent Noah, just ignore

[atomic wolf]

surely he won't come online

[silk iris]

ahhh gotcha ill keep in mind thankssss

[umbral belfry]

get xmaiden in synchr. youll need her for burst gen

pretty good pve wise too

[atomic wolf]

what should i do with my team 1

[quick lake]

Hmm yeah. If u’re lacking units, T3 is probably the best u can do

[atomic wolf]

would tia work for a budget battery

[quick lake]

RH not a must there. Blanc alone is usually enough. Can replace RH and Naga for some batteries

[atomic wolf]

hmm

wish i had battery

having helm right now would solve the problem but alas

[quick lake]

I usually like:
Noah SBS RH biscuit ClipRL/flex

[atomic wolf]

i dont have noah, unfortunately

[quick lake]

Blanc would do

[atomic wolf]

also like i said would tia work

[quick lake]

Then tia it is

[atomic wolf]

hm

i'll take my time to build anis as well, but honestly considering that i only need to survive 5 more days i'll reinforce other two teams

[quick lake]

Regular Anis? if u dont have problems with cp deficits, she’s fine

My anis still non-OLed

[atomic wolf]

if i add her my team would be like 230k not enough lol

[umbral belfry]

did you skill her up? thinking of doing at least 4/4/4 for CA

[quick lake]

Nope. She’s 1/1/1 uninvested. I didnt use her for my CA teams at least

[umbral belfry]