pvp-arena

[onyx scaffold]

my mari with a doll

my mari

[swift mango]

Like I said, sr15 give me 15k CP. Math doesn't check out. That there is only 5k difference. Wtf.

[onyx scaffold]

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

[onyx scaffold]

doll is counted yeah

because

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012288696336273428/1299997810644750437/grave_facuh.gif

[eager mountain]

zzz not excited enough to dig into it, ignoring the gap cause for now
could be something silly

[swift mango]

Maybe you are on to something here.

My bad.

[onyx scaffold]

smh

i saw your other pic 67954

[onyx scaffold]

why do u show me this curse

[swift mango]

Maybe it's what gave me 4k CP then .

/jk

[onyx scaffold]

but yeah i agree that sr doll should give more than 5k cp. can you check your OL on blabla?

[sleek imp]

chat what should I build for pvp? IM a rookie in pvp(still in rookie arena hardstuck)

3rd day in nikke

[swift mango]

Yeah.

[eager mountain]

build for campagin for now, any resource in pvp at this sync isnt worth

[onyx scaffold]

jackal poli naga alice anchor

[sleek imp]

so you are implying that spending my rescource for pvp is not worth it at all?

[onyx scaffold]

focus on campaign

no

[sleek imp]

Poli is good in pvp?

[eager mountain]

for now.

[onyx scaffold]

he means u should focus on campaign at the moment

pvp and campaign progress have a close relationship

[swift mango]

For rookie

Alice+M.Anchor+M.Mast+Anis+Jackal.

[sleek imp]

im hardstuck stage 9

I also only play manual so like stage 9 is really my limit for my level and comp

I do my timing and tapping

[sleek imp]

Thank you

[onyx scaffold]

use rental nikke. the one level 200

[sleek imp]

Anis is worth investing overall?

[sleek imp]

Already all used

[swift mango]

You can't hard stuck in PvE until chap 17. With the 3 lendable support units. You could do 9 stage a day at the very least.

[sleek imp]

I only use Rental nikke for final bosses

[eager mountain]

u can form teams, and learn the basics, but dont spend a single book/rock there at least before u beat ch 22

[onyx scaffold]

no investing at all. put her in synchro device. done

u dont invest anything in pvp at the moment

[sleek imp]

I heard its very VERY hard

[sleek imp]

Alright

[sleek imp]

bro I heard that you will encounter those "KEEPYOURSELFROBOT" that Jumps you instantly

like you lowk need to lock in and exterminate em before it touches you 😭

[swift mango]

Move to side and bypass a stuck stage to clear it later on if possible.

[sleek imp]

Side quest is gon be confusing though no?

It said that the story wont sync up so I never do it

[eager mountain]

ull learn whats the real walling mobs sooner or later

[sleek imp]

This sounds insane but I lowk enjoy the lore and the story

[swift mango]

Do it for the mats and unbrick yourself bruh.

Save credit to upgrade the academy.

[sleek imp]

saving dis for pilgrim banner so i get crown, That unleashes me in both pvp/pve

[eager mountain]

1st side quest would be after like ch 16 ish i think
2nd could be after ch 24

[sleek imp]

bet betr

[raven sparrow]

lol this MK09 guy so desperate, make him waste gems everyday... 🤡
Funniest part is he won't even qualify for champion arena

[umbral belfry]

Pve 100%. Pvp, not so much. But a valid option if you're gonna cp-gap in pvp

[sleek imp]

I thought Crown/Naga goes well no?

[umbral belfry]

For PvE, yes.

[sleek imp]

THats what the other nikke server reocmmaned me(I JUST GOT BANNED)

[swift mango]

Could level any character skill to 3/3/3 if you really wanted to.

[eager mountain]

u dont get crown from pilgrim banner unless she rerun, likely wont

[sleek imp]

4/4/4 right now

[umbral belfry]

Believe in the wishlist

[sleek imp]

can I share my ban story here or only in off topic

[umbral belfry]

He's saying 'if i'm not gonna make it, neither are you'

[sleek imp]

I have 23k I beleive I will

[raven sparrow]

No but that's the thing none of us are fighting for 4, I'm not even wasting attacks on top 4 whales lol

[umbral belfry]

[raven sparrow]

He's literally wasting gems everyday to get 300 more gems for 4-6 placement

But he's already burned more than 1k

[umbral belfry]

That extra 300 gems truly be hitting different

[eager mountain]

well... hes not getting 4th for CA anyway, ig

[umbral belfry]

Yeah he's literally just wasting at this point

[raven sparrow]

Yeah he won't and can't qualify so I'm laughing hard at why he's wasting gems everyday

[swift mango]

You best chance is to just reroll until crown.

But for now, use the maid duo + Liter from standard banner.

[eager mountain]

yeah this acc a bit bricked

should have at least a hard meta pilgrim for reroll

[swift mango]

Like every account after crown.

[umbral belfry]

Mod not meta anymore

[eager mountain]

mfs keep getting crown out of normals lol

[swift mango]

My Crown is still lb1 ever since I spent 200 pulls and 200 yellow tickets during her banner

[eager mountain]

oh dear

but going after crown lb when u pretty much only pvp
ig deep inside u do wanna get campaign done ig

in that case, allow me to introduce something wonderful: PC

[swift mango]

I do Campaign.

[tender glen]

Which server has the more competitive playerbase, NA or Global?

[lunar pawn]

CA spurred the young ones

[eager mountain]

jp is hell, i donno the diff betw na and glo

[swift mango]

And it's just impulse pulling, I got 1 cope for 200 yellow then at the end of her banner. I thought to myself, "I would use her all the time in Campaign anyway, might as well pulling for her dupes"

not because another guy in my bracket got her core+7 at all.

[eager mountain]

[oblique magnet]

meanwhile, 4th place is just relaxing

[eager mountain]

no one is statically worth mlb anyway unless dolphin

mentally its the worth of burst bg

[umbral belfry]

what if it's a collab unit

[eager mountain]

nope.

[lunar pawn]

me and this guy are the 2 most active in the top 10 lol

[umbral belfry]

my bracket's c3-6 keeps changing

[eager mountain]

they can make collab crown's level of broken a*s and imma still lb0 unless i go whaling again or her burst bg is something i really want

[oblique magnet]

the other guy is silly - he should take 4th first so that he can increase his chances of getting to CA, and occasionally attack you. if you take it back, he's still 4th and going to CA, lol

[swift mango]

Got my first and only biscuit there though, so it paid off. Also, first Red hood.

[vapid lake]

people don't think or they dont know how the points system works

[umbral belfry]

I foresee in the near future there's gonna be a lot of questions of 'i ranked higher than 4th, why am i not in CA'

[lunar pawn]

tbf 4th was very active until recently, now he just gets it back from 7th every once in a while, but think he decided on settling for 4th

CA is very unpolished rn, march is ending and we barely know the inner workings of it and the full extent of the rewards

[eager mountain]

and you should explain to them using mathematical distribution

[umbral belfry]

[silk iris]

okay ill do that

[lunar pawn]

tell them even though they are a day 1 player waiting for CA that they can't participate in it

[swift mango]

Hmm I currently stuck same stage as Rail and he used PC. Same stage as Retro and he MA campaign. Same stage as Echo as well, nothing to say here.

[eager mountain]

i suppose the newly added desync option in mobile will help u beat hard mc

[swift mango]

I will beat hard MC when my level allow.

[valid fern]

i thought u already beat mc

o wait nvm i misread as mw

[umbral crown]

NA i think

[umbral crown]

501 and you will

[nimble cave]

Hi! I'm trying my luck here on some SP Arena Defense recommendations ;-; I'm pretty cooked I think but maybe anyone could cook up a better defense team. Quite willing to invest in PVP units but unsure when.

Here are my top NIKKEs and ones I don't have/treasured. Thanks

[pale knoll]

Wdym 501

[lunar pawn]

think for MC you needed at least 1050k cp and a solid ein

might not need ein with a slightly higher cp but didn't test without her

you'll usually reach that at 501 synchro but some whales have reached it earlier (like 450-460 or something)

[eager mountain]

or 4 atk 4 elem rouge

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/you-wouldnt-understand-zoe-levin-tiffany-chester-bonding-you-will-not-get-it-gif-16541313

[umbral crown]

that will be me, trust

[pale knoll]

481 enough

[swift mango]

Any one know if Cindy decoy counted as "1 enemy that's not a nikke" for Trina burst skill?

[keen vapor]

[coarse lake]

Have someone run a mid/low invest scar Trina into 2rl noise Cindy to find out

[swift mango]

That often has Noah so zero dmg

[keen vapor]

Neon point

[quick lake]

[coarse lake]

Yeah gotta find one without noah

[keen vapor]

Sorry, I invested

[coarse lake]

how dare you

[keen vapor]

[coarse lake]

well invested is still fine tbh, I have a rough idea of how hard a scar trina should hit for

if insane dmg spike it'll be easy to see

wtf 430mb update

are they just rolling out mini CA patches daily

[swift mango]

I could test it with just hitting a Cindy. With the same team I used to hit other than check dmg. Still have 2 rookie left. Gotta try.

[coarse lake]

yeah that works

if it somehow works the dmg will skyrocket anyway

[lunar pawn]

the amount of sus patches we get on a daily basis that we get no intel on is nuts

[valid fern]

The other day I thought they nerfed SBS butt physics but then I realize I just had my settings turned low.

[eager mountain]

lol knew it cuz they messed up

[keen vapor]

I'm not getting these updates... Thanks to Jah

[sudden drift]

just logged in and no update here either

[swift mango]

First try, Scarlet slash ended the game so no dmg number...

2nd try, misclicked the replay and out so couldn't record. 😢

Waste 2 attempts that could be used to hit the whale down.

[coarse lake]

oh yeah, forgot killing blow doesn't show number for some forsaken reason

[keen vapor]

"Why you need the specifics, they're dead, you won "

[quick lake]

Divide scar nuke dmg by 5 to approx ig

[keen vapor]

[vapid lake]

i think i will wait until siren is out before dumping all my resources on the very slim chance that siren powercreeps RH for campaign

very unlikely but just to be safe

[quick lake]

Power creeps Crown surely

[vapid lake]

maybe she kicks naga/helmT out

[swift mango]

She probably powercreep SBS, like Rapipi power creep Modernia.

[vapid lake]

half anni is support unit based on previous pattern

i doubt will be dps unless they do double banner

[swift mango]

Only 1 previous, can't be made a pattern.

[vapid lake]

doro and crown

[keen vapor]

Dorothy doesn't buffs anyone

She's a DPS herself

[vapid lake]

game classify her as support

[swift mango]

Rapipi and RH are more support than Doro. So SBS needs to be a support unit too.

Yeah, SBS best supporter 2024.

[keen vapor]

Thinking about that Noise Rumani Bay Biscuit comp that give me so much trouble @tropic summit checked calc and with Helm the team reaches 2 RL, the safe speed

[swift mango]

And game classified Crown as defender.

[keen vapor]

And Cindy defends the team right

[swift mango]

Cindy is also defender

[vapid lake]

stop being pedantic u fools know what i mean, half anni doesn't release B3 dps

unless they break the pattern this year

[keen vapor]

Our best support is attacker (Helm)

[quick lake]

Re-enter B3 Supporter Siren

[keen vapor]

What if pattern is 1-2-3

[swift mango]

There is no pattern you fool.

[vapid lake]

then next half anni burst 4 unit confirmed?

[swift mango]

Supporter Siren to powercreep ASS.

[keen vapor]

Patterns are supposed to be reset

[quick lake]

Siren pvp unit surely

[swift mango]

During burst, Hit 3 highest attack per shot. RL not SG.

[keen vapor]

Blood, what you think on teams that make my life impossible?

[vapid lake]

maybe siren is a super op version of emilia every single shot very big + distributed dmg

throw big bubble

[keen vapor]

Bubble fired after 3 seconds

[quick lake]

Why would devs make pvp unit when no one plays pvp

[swift mango]

Noise Rumani Bay Biscuit and what? no burst 3.

[keen vapor]

After ping...

:derps you:

[swift mango]

Just Moran+Biscuit 2.5RL it.

[keen vapor]

Is useless my defense doesn't holds

[swift mango]

How do you know they use that to attack your def to even mention your 🧱 def.

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/bleach-yhwach-let-him-cook-rain-gif-2488628235910922683

[swift mango]

That's no buff Helm, no strong enough to one shot Scarlet link normally.

[keen vapor]

What if Siren can SILENCE Nikkes

[swift mango]

Basically Privaty and Soda with steep

[keen vapor]

If they don't do it now they'll never will

Neither Sin or Maiden inflict this kind of debuff despite their lore

[swift mango]

Crow should silence too.

[keen vapor]

@quick lake what you say

Is not like Moran Noah buffs Helm either

[raven plover]

kinda reminds me of this

[keen vapor]

I just Emilia it

Noah Emilia

[swift mango]

Or 2rl Scar Trina it, with another unit higher ATK than Scarlet. Cindy work too.

[vapid lake]

im actually quite confident with this kit prediction (if not siren then a future water pilgrim)

[onyx scaffold]

For team 3?

[swift mango]

HelmT will hit Cindy decoy deal no dmg.

[vapid lake]

because every anni/new year dps pilgrim released is easy to play and auto friendly

[keen vapor]

That Bay team is 2 RL as well

[keen vapor]

Yes

[vapid lake]

doro is the exception

[raven plover]

electric weak

[onyx scaffold]

I only hope that siren will be support so Im fine with 1 copy

[vapid lake]

double banner

[keen vapor]

At least is balanced

[quick lake]

I think maxed burst helm can one shot, assuming Scarlet not sr15 maybe

[swift mango]

3RL scar Trina Rapu then.

Let HelmT shot that Scarlet down, who care.

[swift mango]

Can one shot if not linked

She would need buff or crit to one shot link

[crystal flicker]

Now I should be able to relocate Biscuit

[quick lake]

Opponent p1 cindy?

[crystal flicker]

Even better if it isn't P1 for Noah timing

[swift mango]

First hit buffed by RH, crit and one shot Noah. Then you lose.

Wait, your team is 2RL naturally

[eager mountain]

daily dose of p1 cindy
why there isnt any in my arena

[wet torrent]

Whats my best def i can build for normal and Sp Arena?

[hexed cypress]

Should i run scarlet + trina 2rl team and noah, biscuit team for both atk and def?

[stiff oasis]

Destroy?

[eager mountain]

chances are u lose this one

[glacial hound]

Indom biscuit probably loses, indom SBS can win probably

[umbral belfry]

Using SG vs jackal

[glacial hound]

He's attacking so noir hits Blanc who can't possibly be linked

[umbral belfry]

Ah true true

[glacial hound]

The issue is his team isn't even 4RL by visual estimation, blanc biscuit works well with Emilia since she has a ton of gen herself but otherwise it's rly slow

Not sure if enemy is 3RL but definitely 4RL

Just depends on where he can even get the indom off, maybe he can

[eager mountain]

well rh should get indom and hit a few shots after their blanc invlun is gone, but doubt that'd solo them all

[glacial hound]

If shadow is able to get indom she will easily wipe, and since his team is much slower she will outlast emilia

But it's a risky way to fight overall, not easy to succeed on first try

Wait actually enemy has no taunt redhood will just win

[eager mountain]

rh need to one tap everyone after their invuln + indom is gone and before blanc indom is gone, doubt

[glacial hound]

[eager mountain]

blanc living for 10 + n sec and emi living for 10 + m sec

[glacial hound]

Oh wait biscuit protects jackal too

But if jackal takes a biscuit proc then it only lasts 5 seconds, meaning redhood will kill everyone but emilia

[eager mountain]

donno if jackel will take it, if she does then yeah profit

[glacial hound]

Redhood hits p5 on attack

[eager mountain]

only dmg source is biscuit and sbs s1, that spitting into 1/3 against jackel in few seconds....

[glacial hound]

Hmm but indom Emilia will protect Blanc from redhood

[eager mountain]

oh yeah right

rh's indom gonna outlast

[glacial hound]

Blanc should kill opposing Blanc since she gets two biscuit proc compared to 1

[eager mountain]

still need to calculate how many shots can rh make before her indom expires hummm

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1349974851758067732/1218582560406503454.webp

anyway brb

[glacial hound]

Redhood indom will out last by a while since his team is like 5RL

He should just try switching redhood and biscuit lmao would be funny if win

[eager mountain]

p2 rh gonna die before indom without deficit, but he has deficit advantage

[atomic wolf]

oh it's beautiful

[stiff oasis]

Sooooo?

[atomic wolf]

so what

[coarse lake]

I need help with a vid

I need someone to run a scar/soda/trina/centi/jackal into a 2rl noise comp (without noah)

[stiff oasis]

Help

[atomic wolf]

oh right

[stiff oasis]

lol

[eager mountain]

just 2rl scar trina it

[coarse lake]

trina, centi, and jackal need cs, so that soda stuns noise before noise can burst, I need full recording along with your cs lines on those 3 (centi replaceable with any unit higher gen than her, still need their cs)

[atomic wolf]

no idea because i dont build pvp,

[stiff oasis]

Ew I don't have trina

🥲

[eager mountain]

then rosa it

or simply noah stall it

personally id like so see u clip and somehow winning that one, tho likely a lose, i only see rh getting 3-4 shots and killing 2-3 niks at max before she dies

[stiff oasis]

Which Rosa

Or if I used Noah
How would the team comp look

[eager mountain]

4rl p1 noah p3-5 bis

[eager mountain]

completely forgor that soda has stun
so noise can taunt soda and get stunned?

[coarse lake]

yes

[eager mountain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1349974851758067732/1218582560406503454.webp

useful anti 2rl noah in atk ig

[coarse lake]

good in def as well

problem is I need to figure out a reliable and cheap counter to it that doesn't use up jackal

or just a reliable counter at all tbh

[eager mountain]

mg gen gonna make it expensive to put to mess with 2rl noah or noise with 2rl soda, and they can just go other teams

[pastel owl]

you mean to counter scar soda trina? is it so strong/realiable and hard to counter in the first place

[eager mountain]

doesnt look hard to counter to me, just taunt + bay it instead

[coarse lake]

who you gonna taunt it with

[eager mountain]

noise and jackel/rumani back up b1

[coarse lake]

right so noise gets stunned, you end up bursting with backup, then bay, but you forget there's the second stun, 25% to land on any of the remaining 4 nikkes

[eager mountain]

the good thing abou that soda comp is soda is plug and use no investment needed

[coarse lake]

if you have 1 other b1 and bay, you have a 50% chance to still get nuked

[lunar pawn]

I mean, she needs some investment, else cp gapped

[coarse lake]

a reliable counter needs to not rely on good stun rng

you cannot risk a CA fight that uses pretty expensive defensive units on a gamble

[eager mountain]

u can say that to anyone, her skill doesnt and thus its relatively no investment in that sense
need to be in p2 to need to live against emi

[lunar pawn]

50% chance for it to go wrong too, may land on the extra b1 or the only b2

[coarse lake]

in champ a 50% success rate is basically grounds to skip that team entirely and use the units to guarantee win another fight, so you end up peaking at 4/5

[pastel owl]

sustain through the stun and burst after, or rh?

[coarse lake]

sustain through the stun with a stunned noise might be possible, that's what I want to test rn

[eager mountain]

🤔 true the second hit rng, use rh to cover every route and ensure either bay or noah activate b2 will likely means losing 2rl gen

[coarse lake]

burst into a 2rl noise comp that has noise taunt

[lunar pawn]

I'd slap her in p3 personally but yea

[coarse lake]

see if noise can recover from stun and burst before scar nuke happens

[eager mountain]

tho, any sustain can work unless scar crits or getting s2 rng
doesnt really need bay noah

[coarse lake]

and even then I'm not confident, since you can prob get around it with a giga invest scar trina

[eager mountain]

has to be p1p2 to get taunted while staying 2rl

[coarse lake]

it's essentially a double buff scar, not many gonna be able to live through it

[lunar pawn]

Does tempering mitigate scarlet s2? Guessing yes

[coarse lake]

there is a "reliable" setup, except it's completely unfeasible in champ

[eager mountain]

500 sync c7 attacker can live it, donno about 400 + stall burst, i suppose can just that might die to s2

[lunar pawn]

Non issue for 99.9% of the playerbase

[coarse lake]

taunting noise + backup b1 + noah + bay + dps

guaranteed you burst to block

if you run that you're screwed if they run another nuker

that's why I want to find a cheaper option

[lunar pawn]

Don't all 5 get taunted though

[coarse lake]

otherwise the strat is to check their doll invest, if low, bumrush with xmaiden/emilia/laplace

good odds of killing bad invest soda before burst

[coarse lake]

I haven't seen a no sustain comp live it, need noise

soda also only gets 1 hit taunted, bc debuff taunt can taunt 1, but to taunt both, gotta use attract to taunt the other

noise noah cannot taunt both

[eager mountain]

if u taunt their noah using a p4 taunt and somehow to manage it to somehow cycle with p1 taunt, yes
but no

[coarse lake]

and afaik we don't have an attract taunt fast enough

esp one that doesn't melt to scar

[eager mountain]

the c7 is without noise or alternatives

[coarse lake]

what's the sync diff, and invest on scar trina

or is this mathed

[eager mountain]

10/x/10 mlb sr5 scar 35ish atk ol x/10/5 trina
still has more then just 1hp left

[coarse lake]

got vid?

[eager mountain]

dont think so, lemme check

[coarse lake]

is this the nero moran stall comp?

[fathom rock]

Bro got tired of me

Ross sac on def

[coarse lake]

run 0 rl and force them to mast burst

[nimble portal]

What is best cube for Moran?

[coarse lake]

uh... cindy, rh, helmt....

I need to figure out better sac comps as well, but that's not relevant for champ, so it's whatever

[fathom rock]

Please give relevant advice

Its either this or sr15 moran nero comp 2rl

[glacial hound]

Don't you still win

Rosanna kills helm but second hit is on invincible Noah so you can still burst

Or does she kill before helm second shot

[fathom rock]

Will helm even land her second shot

[glacial hound]

How much charge does Rosanna give from single sack

36.5%

That still shouldn't make them 1RL right

[fathom rock]

Like 36% at lv10

We yolo

[eager mountain]

nope didnt clip
they didnt have stall

[fathom rock]

This is free anyway

[eager mountain]

but it will make his team 3rl or worse

[fathom rock]

3rl vs 3rl

[eager mountain]

1rl sacc would be like sacc + mana

tho scar trina wont make it 1rl

barely

[fathom rock]

Real question is how do i get 2rl with a ded mast

[eager mountain]

2rl is no issue in sacc
u wont be 2rl as i said

[fathom rock]

Not for them
For me

[glacial hound]

Oh true

[fathom rock]

How do i beat that shi

[eager mountain]

"oh true"

thats enough internet for me today

[fathom rock]

I need to ross sac too dont i

[glacial hound]

[fathom rock]

Bro changed his t1

[coarse lake]

I remember there was a counter, forgot what it was

[coarse lake]

2rl might still be possible with helmt

although with sac they actually end up 2rl

oh yeah, just run a faster rosa, base 2rl rosa

[fathom rock]

Lv1 1/1/1 no doll no ol

[coarse lake]

I forget the typical counter

[rich quail]

Rapunzel?

[coarse lake]

there's the nuke to deal with

2rl nuke, while you prob lose gen, idk how fast you kill mast, prob in 1rl?

[fathom rock]

1rl 100%

Would 1 sg feeding boost them below 2rl

[coarse lake]

I think faster rosa and cp diff are the main ways

[onyx scaffold]

how should I reroll my EMT?

her s1 is lv10

[warm monolith]

@fathom rock Can you help me pls or should i go with these teams?

[fathom rock]

Gimme a min

[formal cradle]

Would the ideal pvp cubes for these units (in order) be resilience, vigor, adjutant, quantum, quantum, vigor, quantum, resilience, adjutant, quantum, tempering, vigor, healing, resilience and quantum?

[fathom rock]

T1 wins
T2 risky af
T3 loss
I see a p1 cindy

If your t2 can kill blanc ggs

Enemy in deficit so shouldnt be too hard

[fathom rock]

Yolo, you win

[fallow nebula]

How to fix my defense

[warm monolith]

Yeah ty btw what is yolo

[fathom rock]

Just go for it

[warm monolith]

I won

[fallow nebula]

Team advice pls

[vapid lake]

besides the cindy in p2 on first pic ur teams look ok so what's the problem

[wicked horizon]

I'm losing it. They're focusing me. I hit someone, 4 different people are ready to hit me back.

[shell hazel]

Note what Railtracer said here about the 2nd team: #pvp-arena message

[unique wagon]

win win loss

[sudden drift]

caught some of the talk this morning about CP differences between blabla and in-game... did you guys find out the reason in the end?

[warm monolith]

True

[sudden drift]

cuz i dont know if its just my game glitching, but my cubes in campaign vs cubes used in PVP are diff.

[fathom rock]

Thats normal

[sudden drift]

ex. lvl 10 resilence on helm in campaign; but i go to PVP and she has lvl 5 adjucant

[sudden drift]

serio? i thought they auto-changed no matter the format

[fathom rock]

Pvp cubes are seperate from pve now and blabla doesnt count cubes

[sudden drift]

huh. good to know for future

ohh, maybe its cuz im thinking of raids

[tropic summit]

go with this next, your teams are on the left, enemy on the right

[tropic summit]

[silk iris]

say less thanks

[tropic summit]

scarlet resil/bastion
blanc vigor
rh resil/bastion
laplace adjutant/resil/bastion
jackal quantum

noise vigor
centi quantum
cind resil/bastion
helmT adjutant/resil
rumani quantum

noah temperance
biscuit vigor
rapu vigor
s.anis resil
emilia adjutant/bastion/resil

[silk iris]

rip i lost

[whole pawn]

what is my fault if everyone has at least one team with Noah and another one with stacked cp and meta units
man I can't even beat Chal 10, cooked

[tropic summit]

hmm i see the problem here is blanc being not invested and the double splash

[silk iris]

still not enough? maybe the substats?

[tropic summit]

what's doll lvl?

[silk iris]

only r0 nvm

[tropic summit]

that's very low dmg reduction compared to sr5

[silk iris]

hmmm what should i do

[tropic summit]

are you also using vigor on her?

[silk iris]

yep

[tropic summit]

let's change approach

[wise horizon]

i should be good, right? @tropic summit

[quick lake]

strong emi and lap

[tropic summit]

yeah one of the few occasions i'd run SR5 blanc with temperance

but then again i also have that same team on 2.5RL due to CS%

[quick lake]

looks good

[wise horizon]

thanks

[tropic summit]

there are 2 options we could walk... 2RL indom scarlet or 3RL single buff indom SBS

let's try with the latter first

[silk iris]

what does indom mean

[tropic summit]

indomitable from blanc

another option would be the same with your s.anis instead, but your SBS is more invested

[silk iris]

yeah my sbs def more invested

[tropic summit]

now as we running blanc in p3 she should be fine, alice will have more HP than SBS so SBS gets indom

[silk iris]

i see ill run it when the reset happens

[tropic summit]

once we hit indom it's gonna be depending on ur SBS wiping 5 nikke durin 10s, minus 3s of invulnerability from noah

[silk iris]

hmm maybe his team is quite tough

[tropic summit]

if anything it's gonna be an interesting DPS check

[silk iris]

well see when the reset happens

[tropic summit]

this is the other approach meanwhile

the point here is that you'll kill emi and probably noah, rapunzel will revive but priority is on highest atk%, which means emi ges revived and they're B2-less, can't burst anymore

[silk iris]

hmm my soda isnt very invested

4/4/4 skills

[tropic summit]

oh oke we can use noir instead then

check scarlet and noir atk% and post it here, OL included (can use blabla)

[silk iris]

like that?

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind xmaiden noise
sbs blanc rh rumani jackal
noah biscuit rrh alice trina

cubes

quantum on jackal, rumani
vigor on biscuit, noise, blanc
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

notes

raise CP on trina, rumani, biscuit, noah, trina

notes2:

finish building helmT

get ur teams reviewed after the notes

[tropic summit]

yep looks good lemme c

atk looks good, HP we gonna need to give noir vigor to force her more HP than SBS

[tropic summit]

@silk iris plan B becomes:

with T3 cubes being:

Scarlet resil/bastion
noir vigor
blanc vigor
centi and jackal quantum

honestly plan A could already work, but it will depend on enemy core/doll investiment and ur SBS doing her job within 10s

both matches will be 🍿 worthy

once you've helmT on s1 lvl 10 and stage 2 reaching a 2RL team will become easy

will likely aim to get cindy team to 2RL

[raven plover]

maybe team 2 can be 2.5 if you get 17% cs

[silk iris]

ok ill try this if a doesnt work

[silk iris]

wait this is sbs not reg scarlet right?

[raven plover]

kinda expensive

[crystal flicker]

Average Trina skipper

[tropic summit]

no plan B is OG scarlet, we'll need the instant nuke to kill emi and noah, forcing rapu to revive emi and getting them B2less, while your scarlet indom will slowly kill all of them

[silk iris]

i see so plan a is sbs still

[tropic summit]

example of indom OG scarlet @silk iris

[tropic summit]

yep plan A is SBS indom instead

[silk iris]

gotcha ill try later

[crystal flicker]

ScarBS with Indomie is pretty good

I'm kinda thinking to bench Cindy for ScarBS Blanc as T3 Def

I mean
2RL Scarlet
2.5RL SAnis
All that left is 3RL team coz no HelmT

Who knows if I'll get HelmT next SR

[tropic summit]

SBS on def is a bit weaker than cindy on def... as she can be stopped by taunter + biscuit compared to having to run an indom or noah

may work may not, worth a shot regardless

[crystal flicker]

Isn't her burst is AoE?

[vapid lake]

deleted clip while i was watching it

[crystal flicker]

The same can be said for Cindy tho, Noah block her as well

[swift mango]

Unbuffed SBS can also be stopped by Noise+Rapu. No need for Biscuit.

[quick lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/668761667873538071/1355298027849384147/crustcooking180.gif

[crystal flicker]

and I'm talking about ScarBS + Blanc

[tropic summit]

correct

@crystal flicker

this is p1 taunter def + biscuit against SBS

[tropic summit]

day's ruined

[vapid lake]

put defense cube on biscuit

[tropic summit]

depends, if noise and rapu can heal more than the dps dealt by SBS sure

[vapid lake]

it bedtime

[swift mango]

Because it's distributed, it weak against AoE heal. ASS is more reliable against double healing because she only hit 2.

Still, with enough investment on Noise and Rapu they would stall out both Unbuffed. But 1 buffed ASS may work while SBS would be having harder time unless hitting Ele advantage...

[crystal flicker]

So

This is the reason we need Emilia rerun

[swift mango]

I remember there was a video of merry where he used Endurance cube to make SBS hit a biscuited defender, no need for taunt.

I could try it in rookie later to save a video.

So basically, to beat SBS you only need endurance cube level 4. No need Moran or Noah.

[pale knoll]

Show vid

[swift mango]

Will do a rookie tomorrow. But I could search this chat for that merry's comment.

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message

Not that hard to find. A rarely discussed topic.

[crystal flicker]

Def an option for CA

[atomic wolf]

@crystal flicker dude if i could kiss you i would

now i am COMPLETELY jorking it on spA

[covert lintel]

[atomic wolf]

any other advices? @crystal flicker

right now all i'm doing is padding combat power via OL (not lines, just lv0 OL gears)

[crystal flicker]

We're just talking about countering ScarBS with Biscuit, might need to work on that

[atomic wolf]

hmm, for now they're being knowledge checked, i do not know whether or not if they know this and i cant see which fights that i lost

cinderella biscuit team is an instant loss due to me not having noah to counter it; which makes sense, now what about the other two teams

IF hypothetically they can counter SBS with their cinderella team, there's still the cinderella team i have, plus the scarlet team

realistically, they can take my cinderella team with scarlet, and this is easy win for them

but if for some reason they don't the scarlet team is instantly a victory

it kills SBS team, and cinderella team

so, TL;DR
they use cinderella team against my sbs team and it loses (acceptable)
this leaves them with scarlet and sbs team
sbs team loses to my scarlet team, scarlet team can takes my cinderella team

if my cinderella team wins, they cannot win

that's about it

[crystal flicker]

That ScarBS is very slow, they might backdoor it via Naga > Biscuit > RH

Unless they also using slower team ofc

[atomic wolf]

damn how do i take screenshot of their team, hold on

[crystal flicker]

You're on top of them, you cant

[atomic wolf]

welp it is what it is, if they beat me tmr i will report back to you

for now theorycrafting is enough, and i've taken my revenge on the pisslow top 4

[crystal flicker]

You can also ask Rail for team lol

[atomic wolf]

i'll note it down, thanks

wish i can send you some suisex pics though but you've prob seen all of them already

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-i-see-nothing-i-know-nothing-i-was-never-here-gif-18898031

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit i have to face him again

Here is your popcorn

[swift mango]

Yeah, I stopped with the mast sacc ever since HelmT became a thing. If you wanted to sacc now, you must use lv1 Nikke no OL that would increase HP, and remove armour.

That dude mast was too tanky surviving 1RL it made him lose.

It's easier to just CP press

[fathom rock]

Bruh

[meager linden]

Hi guys! What can be improved in my three teams? Or maybe make some others? I have all girls in game. THelm t2. 7-9-8 skills. Trina 4-4-4, in progress.

[hexed cypress]

what's some def and atk i can craft with these char??

def, atk team comp*

[swift mango]

Trina instead of xAnne. Then you could move HelmT or Centi to use as other teams battery.

[limber rampart]

Is bready gud in pvp?

[fathom rock]

No

[umbral crown]

Quiry then

[sudden drift]

only 9 days left

[fathom rock]

Brother the bottom of my pvp log is 1 day ago
@tropic summit

[keen vapor]

[sudden drift]

meanwhile im trying to bait C2 into gemming bc im bored he used his two freebies earlier today

[keen vapor]

Me baiting Vlad

Or that's the idea

[keen vapor]

Attack depends on target

[sudden drift]

it was something you said earlier today about a team comp that led me astray

[keen vapor]

Noise Bay

[sudden drift]

yeh

but also just to throw a L in there so I can see how far along my scar trina is coming along

[coarse lake]

oh? did you try it

[fathom rock]

You guys and your scarlets

[sudden drift]

guess this guy didnt pull trina

[fathom rock]

I did

[keen vapor]

[sudden drift]

then whats the issue? i would have said no resources but arent you swipe swipe 💳 solves all

[keen vapor]

He's F2P, respect him

[sudden drift]

ahh...

[keen vapor]

Respect

[sudden drift]

then who's the person who always swipes away to solve all

[keen vapor]

Kamui but he doesn't PVP

[sudden drift]

mad respect

[keen vapor]

I yet have to known what to do with the other 2 teams

[sudden drift]

@fathom rock knows i give him flowers all the time for helping me w/ ahabing MW

[fathom rock]

Im so f2p i dont have 60fps hardware

[keen vapor]

:worry pat:

[fathom rock]

The bottom of my pvp log is today

Lets see who runs out first

[keen vapor]

spy him on blabla

[fathom rock]

I cant find his blabla

[keen vapor]

[fathom rock]

Btw yall shouldnt look at my blabla......

[keen vapor]

huh?

Did something funnier than Black charge speed on Crown/black ele on jackal happened?

it did?

[fathom rock]

No.......

I mean black ele on emi happened like 2 days ago, but thats not what i mean

[keen vapor]

You know, it's funny how we didn't realize Emilia didn't needed elemental rolls

[sudden drift]

@keen vapor time for you to put your chef's hat on

[bleak shale]

the cp pad tho

[keen vapor]

Any black line > elemental phase 10

[sudden drift]

Noise Rumani Bay Biscuit + which b3, helm or RH

[keen vapor]

Elemental is not the only way to pad

[bleak shale]

ele gives higher cp weighting iirc

[sudden drift]

or other

[limpid nebula]

Anything can be improved? Is the placement good?

[keen vapor]

No more than a single phase level

[keen vapor]

Cindy P1 ultra bad

[limpid nebula]

Thats my tankiest ones of of them all

[keen vapor]

Second team should use less MGs

[keen vapor]

But you speed up enemies who knows how to PVP

[bleak shale]

i looked back at the formula, 1.2x per tier so t10 = t12 other pad line

[keen vapor]

.2 equals 2 tiers?

[bleak shale]

.2 * 10 = 2 tiers

[limpid nebula]

whats the solution tho?

[bleak shale]

youre .2 higher per tier, 10 tiers for t10 roll = t12

[keen vapor]

For second team put Trina on P2 and replace Emma with Centi

Still slow but better than using Emma

[limpid nebula]

so this team prob full bust once if lucky

[keen vapor]

First team
Let Maxwell die, Blanc P2
Cindy P3 shouldn't get hit I think?
It'll be better to use pepper there instead of Liter

You don't have more PVP options so that'll be the best adjustments ATM

[limpid nebula]

but for the pepper swap, the last bullet hit strat for team 3 will be gone

[keen vapor]

Pepper will get her bullets down to 3
Last bullet thing will only work reliably if you manual cuz you'll only allow her to reload to one bullet

So, you can't exploit that in PVP

[limpid nebula]

i got the 2nd half, what about the bullets down to 3?

9/2=4.5 then the game round down to 3?

[keen vapor]

Ok look
Pepper is a SG unit that reloads by clip, her total ammo is 6, but with Privaty gets halved

Her clip reload will all- oh you got ammo lines

[bleak shale]

her ammo is 9

[keen vapor]

It's been ages since I've used Pepper....

[sudden drift]

[bleak shale]

but she does go to 3 ammo

[keen vapor]

huh?

[bleak shale]

because shes clip she reloads 3 at a time, priv lowers this by 50.66 = 1.4832 = round down

[keen vapor]

[bleak shale]

o she goes to 4 with a bonus reload

double rounding memes

[limpid nebula]

wait can you explain to me again im a bit lost

[solid flare]

4.33+4.33+4.33+4.04 = what charge speed?

[keen vapor]

Rounded down
4x4 16

Wait no, same number gets sum up

[solid flare]

4.33*3=12.9 rounds up no?

[bleak shale]

basically the 3ammo per reload gets 1 bullet because 1.4832 gets rounded down, but 9 reduced by 50.64 = 4.45 round down

[keen vapor]

4.33x3 yes, 13

Then another 4, 17

[bleak shale]

so you get 4 clip reloads of 1 bullet with a max ammo count of 4

instead of 3 clip reloads of 3 with a max of 9

[limpid nebula]

okay i need some time to process these, but does this strat works on pvp?

[bleak shale]

no cuz her last bullet doesnt really matter in pvp anyways

does a 2.63% heal with 3.86% healing potency every 4 shots matter? probably not

[limpid nebula]

now i get it the stats are just too low for a fast pace pvp...

[keen vapor]

She reloads in clips
But she won't stop till full ammo (halved, till 3 ammo)
So, she'll never shot every 1 bullet she recharges on auto

[bleak shale]

^ if ur pve u can control her and shoot after that first bullet reload

[keen vapor]

Wait a moment, who has those lines you mentioned?

[limpid nebula]

lucky i find this out if not i thought it works on pvp

[bleak shale]

2.63% heal every shot > 2.63% heal every 4 shots by a multiplier of 4

[keen vapor]

He realized something

[limpid nebula]

then wont a uninvested helm still better than privaty since her burst skill heals?

[tropic summit]

this guy actually running mast sac

you got some tryhard in that bracket alright

[keen vapor]

Well, Privaty burst is good copium on early PVP

[fathom rock]

Bottom of my pvp log

[keen vapor]

10 hours....

[bleak shale]

stunning for 3 seconds and praying ur SG kills them is a valid strat until they get a wall like biscuit

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[limpid nebula]

for the 2nd team instead of adding centi, adding helm, will it be better? since 40s Moran burst and taunt, likely to die, so i only have 1 full burst

[bleak shale]

or sg blasting through something is also a strat if they dont protect p1

[keen vapor]

Moran won't die, she recovers HP every time it gets low

.... She doesn't dies right?

[limpid nebula]

she does hahahaha, especially my moran is weak

[fathom rock]

Im the only one in my bracket forced to run unprotected p1 at this point

Scar will come home one day....

[keen vapor]

And yes, 1 full burst is how PVP works

[keen vapor]

I mean, before she bursts?

[limpid nebula]

theres never a chance to burst twice in pvp?, i mean moran will burst b4 she dies, but helms vs centi, isnt helms better in terms of damage and heal? Unlessss we full burst once and is not helm burst then pure stats wise centi might be better?

[fathom rock]

Very very rare

[keen vapor]

Is this rookie or SP? Bc my rookie matches are very inconsistent

[keen vapor]

Teams need speed to burst fast

Which certain units like Centi or Anis helps you to achieve

[solid flare]

noah 4.92, 4.92, 4.92, 4.63, [14.76+4.63] | 15+5
centi 4.33, 4.33, 4.33, 4.04 [12.99+4.04] | 13+4
pocari 4.92, 4.92, 4.63, 4.04, [9.84+4.63+4.04] | 10+5+4
T-helm has a 6.09, 5.51, 4.63, 3.16 [6+6+5+3]

does my math check out?

[limpid nebula]

ohhh make sense, so instead of the manual battle where we select 1 nikke and spam attack, pvp calculate the entire team generation rate?

[keen vapor]

[fathom rock]

Most effective defense so far

[keen vapor]

Should be fine

[solid flare]

how do i break the moran team?

[bleak shale]

Is that a Sr 15 nero

[keen vapor]

My shotguns ain't invested

[bleak shale]

Jesus

Did they also level up nero Moran skills

[keen vapor]

Then again, your gemming to stay on C2

[fathom rock]

No way sr15 but 1/1/1

[fathom rock]

Brother they are gemming, gemming is the only way to keep up

[keen vapor]

Enjoy CA for me

[solid flare]

im pretty sure thanks to this exact guy, i cant play CA

[fathom rock]

I lost it when some dude spent 1k gems on my def

[solid flare]

i was compforatbly 3rd every reshuffle

or 2n or 1st

[sudden drift]

ok since @keen vapor not helping me cook which of the bottom 3 teams are best to bait C2 into gemming me

[keen vapor]

I'm not liking 3rd teams

[sudden drift]

it is too low, i know. C3 has tried his hand at my top team before, making baiting C2 redundant

[limpid nebula]

oh yeah why pepper better on team 1? just wanna know

[keen vapor]

More speed for Cindy team

I guess

[limpid nebula]

i look at the pepper skills, she doesnt have speed up tho

[keen vapor]

Scar Trina it

[keen vapor]

She's clip SG

Weapons that reload by clip generates a lot of burst energy which in exchange makes you "burst faster"

[limpid nebula]

ohhhh thanks for the help Echo

[keen vapor]

~~I forgot the words ~~

[solid flare]

i dont have those big naturals

[keen vapor]

Hmmmmm, have you tried Scar Blanc before?
With a SG+Nero+Moran feed should be enough to speed you up...

[tropic summit]

echo is on point

2 AR feed + SG it's given 2RL

[keen vapor]

99 feed yummy

[keen vapor]

Nero SMG

[solid flare]

scar blank means i dont have blanc for noah team 1

[keen vapor]

It means you skip it

What you think you're doing flexing a 3 win

[solid flare]

i always 3 win this guy

[keen vapor]

Then don't

[solid flare]

is the cindy team skippable?

[tropic summit]

you can scar grave rh centi jackal

[keen vapor]

Any team is skippable as long as you 2 win

[keen vapor]

I was going to suggest Mari

[tropic summit]

that works too

[solid flare]

grave is invested

mari was skipped

[keen vapor]

Mari isn't?

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

i knew the future

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

[solid flare]

i did not want another emilia problem on my handds

i HAVE a copy of mari, i just did not invest into her

[keen vapor]

Oh, you're that guy

[solid flare]

? emilia ate so much of my resourses, but shes dragging my CP down for that team.

[tropic summit]

not having emilia stopped being a problem with trina and helmt introduced anyway

considering SU trend, it's likely we'll get more of those too

sp arena is a whole mess for defense

[solid flare]

all in the name of champion area

[keen vapor]

She has 12 lines? 🤨

[tropic summit]

sometimes i wonder if they even know what they're doing and arena is just taking in the consequences

It feels like one of those modes that was added as an afterthought and is poorly maintained

[keen vapor]

Wait for harvest moon mode

Surface content being a farm for the ark

[tropic summit]

damn that sounds more fun than hard mode raid and champion arena

[keen vapor]

please a gem plant

[tropic summit]

what's next? a currency to buy skins as f2p?

[tropic summit]

you forgot the most important bit of info for T3, enemy feed

[keen vapor]

Calcs don't adjust burst time based on feed

Also, Grave should require you less feed than with Blanc

[keen vapor]

What's 31.95-35.5

[tropic summit]

32% feed within 2RL

it's like a rosanna sacc

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

Cooking

I slap vipert and thats it

[keen vapor]

How much feed without drake

[solid flare]

drake is hitting jackal, that feed counts no?

[tropic summit]

yes it does

you're getting entirety of the enemy feed

[umbral crown]

Imagine you run that team but also another team with 2 SG

[tropic summit]

p1 getting nero, moran, helm, rapu, p5 getting drake

[umbral crown]

To make ir hard for how which one to scar jack

[keen vapor]

21.... Not safe enough

[solid flare]

whatever ill skipp team1 and try for team 2 and 3 right, ill just run the teams i stated above

[lusty gull]

kisamaaaa you should know this

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Greivu

[coarse lake]

That's what you get for running scar Trina with no sustain

Both p1 and p5 fail

[solid flare]

my brain is so coocke

[fathom rock]

I figured out a deal with bro, since he too wanted to get into ca but cant beat 3rd or 4th place he hit me down to 5th,i beat 3rd for him then hit him down again and we are now both in peace

[keen vapor]

Don't P3 Noise, you don't want to taunt there

[fathom rock]

Conversing to someone via acc bio is wild work

[keen vapor]

P5 better

[fathom rock]

taunting to middle just gives your enemy more targets to hit therefore more regen

[keen vapor]

Did he started? How either of you convinced the other to even check bio?

[fathom rock]

Coincidence, i started by putting in my bio "how about hiting 3rd"

[keen vapor]

How you knew he answered

[fathom rock]

He changed his bio to i cant

[keen vapor]

Man, I wish I could chat bio

[fathom rock]

Give it a shot

They need to add chat back ngl

[quick lake]

my peeps havent changed their bio in forever

[fathom rock]

Or ill literally go ahead and join his union on a 3rd alt just to get a hold of his discord

[keen vapor]

Third alt

[fathom rock]

Bro is a master bricker out here

[keen vapor]

Malogro be like:

@clear vessel are we on the same bracket?

@quby @abathur

[fathom rock]

[clear vessel]

We might be. You mentioned Abathur, so I think we are on the same

You pushed me back to D1 recently too hah

[keen vapor]

I haven't hit you this season at all

I was wondering why you aren't climbing up tho

[clear vessel]

Oh, I pretty much stayed there after last season. I'm not pvp focused, I try every now and again and if I don't climb no biggie

[keen vapor]

I see

Now that I have the opportunity

Can you finish Union raids between two persons? Or even get far in level?

[clear vessel]

We can't finish, but we get far enough to where the rewards are enough for me. We have been solid 50% for the past few seasons

[keen vapor]

amazing how you chill on every mode

[unkempt trail]

is it true only top 4 in sp arena gets picked for champion arena

[fathom rock]

Yes in point leaderboard

[keen vapor]

Yeh

Every bracket is chaos bc of that

Well, the others can "cheer" those top 4 for... Credits?

[unkempt trail]

we cheering on whales arena

[keen vapor]

50% with two persons is without a doubt impressive

One could think that might be 80% or 99%

[fathom rock]

Cant you hook bro up with a better union

[keen vapor]

My union is full

[solid flare]

F2P account

[signal hull]

So, am I getting this right, if I created my acc and then made a long break, when I return I'll be in same pvp group with people who played since then and they'll always be far ahead of me?

[keen vapor]

Man, the only one from my bracket I found and he wants to chill

[fathom rock]

I cant find a single soul from my bracket here

I will legit join bros union just to get a contact to him

[keen vapor]

Oh
@clear vessel if you copy my defense you may be able to be immune to Challenger 10 japanese guy

He failed to attack me

Needs overloaded units of course

Maiden alt might be replaceable

We could even cook something with better CP for you

Btw, I always hated your Tia Noah RH team good job

[fathom rock]

His wha

[keen vapor]

With jackal and Naga, he always managed to block me in time

[clear vessel]

Thanks haha cooked that up myself, purpose burst delay RH

[fathom rock]

Emi?

[keen vapor]

Despite he should be slowed down bc of Tia burst

[keen vapor]

Scarlet Blanc

[quick lake]

More collusion since CA annouced

[fathom rock]

im so lost

[keen vapor]

I should be nuking faster than Noah with Naga feeding me and Tia slowing his burst chain but he blocked me in time quite consistently

[clear vessel]

Hah sorry I guess. I do go super try hard mode but not to the detriment of just having fun

[fathom rock]

Tia noah rh naga jackal?

[keen vapor]

My worst nightmare

After Noise Rumani Bay with Biscuit ig

[fathom rock]

Just 2rl scar it

Or 2rl cindy

[keen vapor]

He changed it recently to more CP padding with SBS

And now noahless

[fathom rock]

Or even nuke jack link with helmT

Or indom rrh

Or tia delayed emi indom

[sudden leaf]

hmm how do you counter this in single arena? I tried a scarlet/trina/rh/helm/jackal team (helm being intended to burst gen and eat the oposite helm burst due to highest atk) but with scarlet not being protected by jackal my team didn't make it to burst

[keen vapor]

My Tia very bad CP

[fathom rock]

This is a 2rl comp, counter by 3rl noah biscuit or 2rl rrh indom

[umbral crown]

si no puedes con el enemigo, unete

[keen vapor]

He wants to chill

[umbral crown]

but you?

[fathom rock]

He wants ca

[umbral crown]

imagine chilling but wanting CA

[sudden leaf]

and eat the opposite helm burst before bursting? I'm not sure how I would avoid it with a 3RL team

[keen vapor]

3 RL can get nuked by Helm

[fathom rock]

If you dont run jackal you can sac highest attack, you can also run the same exact team but with emi in p3

I would absolutely noah biscu emi rh helmT that comp

[keen vapor]

Yeah, Emi nuke good suggestion

[fathom rock]

Im still a novice pvp cook

[keen vapor]

Better than this

[quick lake]

Cook more and u will be pvp master

[clear vessel]

On the plus side, I can leave you alone to try for CA

[keen vapor]

Rheax, Malogro wants to chill, I found his @ too late

[sudden leaf]

it worked, but tbh the biggest change was that his burst seemed to come slower this time - maybe I'm imagining things

[fathom rock]

You are, you both were 2rl

[keen vapor]

Now I have to deal with Vlad, he gemmed me once also can't hit Big so in the end he probably wins C4

I'll try to get top 6 tho, thanks

[quick lake]

Next season

[keen vapor]

I do wonder however

Can diamond rank cheer up Top 4? that way all the bracket can use CA tab in some way

[quick lake]

Probably can view..? Eventually top 64 can be viewed by everyone

[umbral crown]

but echo can not hold C4 for long

[keen vapor]

Unless I gem

[umbral crown]

also echo does not hem

[keen vapor]

I gemmed seasons ago and I reject it

[quick lake]

Time to open open boxes and mlb units

[umbral crown]

his lack of investment is not helping him

[quick lake]

Double wipe out daily

[keen vapor]

I'll buy purple mats on event shop everytime now, I swear

[umbral crown]

you were not buying them

[keen vapor]

Every 2 events

[umbral crown]

brick gets real everytime

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

[fathom rock]

[keen vapor]

I do not read the left one 🫣

[lunar dirge]

Should've done it earlier

[lunar dirge]

can't read cuz too high, relatable

[keen vapor]

High five

<@&946725432554836008>

[lunar dirge]

🫵

[keen vapor]

Where's Rail to give him the bad news

[lunar dirge]

@tropic summit echo wants to rail you

[pale knoll]

[fathom rock]

[keen vapor]

Hi Havel

[pale knoll]

Hey

[lunar dirge]

don't worry, PvP guys doing their PvP stuff

Aka choo-choo train

[pale knoll]

I was weird out about the timezone change

[keen vapor]

[pale knoll]

Still 1 hour to go until reset

[fathom rock]

Wait you guys are not still in winter!

[lunar dirge]

well, nothing has changed for me

[pale knoll]

UK things ig

[lunar dirge]

Stabbity stab and "food"

[pale knoll]

[lunar dirge]

how does it feel to be eating bri'ish cuisine

[fathom rock]

You mean butter chicken?
Idk whats British cuisine tbh

[pale knoll]

I don't

[quiet fiber]

What team should I use to hit one of the first two? The third match-up looks good imo.

[lunar dirge]

lucky

[keen vapor]

@worldly basin will this be the same Pach?

NA OMG @worldly basin HIIIIIIIIIII

[gaunt viper]

[fathom rock]

T1 loss
T2 loss
T3 win

Run emi(quantum) /blanc/rh(quantum) /centi(quantum) /jack (quantum) vs enemy cindy comp (tell me if quantum not lv7)

Run noah/biscuit/rapi rh/helmT/rumani against their team 3

Send updated cp

And check emi hp less than rh

[keen vapor]

I suggest you to replace Emilia with Centi on third team
Reduce second team to Doro alone and drag it to first round

Then replace Summer Anis with Emilia and Laplace with Helm

[keen vapor]

Oi, it took you to much, I was waiting :pepeh:

[fathom rock]

I had the spreadsheet crash on me 3 times
I also keeo checking my pvp def

[keen vapor]

I cooked by memory and yes, me too, I'm planning an attack, please Pach don't disturb me

[fathom rock]

I cooked t2 by memory too rest i had to check tho
Im still novice pvp cook

[keen vapor]

[quiet fiber]

Quantum is level 9

Also thanks for the replies

[eager mountain]

[fathom rock]

Great last thing check emi less hp than rh

[quiet fiber]

Yes, Emi has less hp than rh

[fathom rock]

Do it

[quiet fiber]

Going in.

[tropic summit]

what happened

[keen vapor]

I'm finding people from my bracket

[quiet fiber]

[keen vapor]

Now follow my recipe

[quiet fiber]

My rumani is still on the weaker side.

[eager mountain]

fight for CA

[keen vapor]

Is much more simple

[quiet fiber]

Alright

[keen vapor]

But Centi is good right

[quiet fiber]

Not lvl5 OL

[tropic summit]

my god the gem war

[eager mountain]

leveling ol is expensive, since it uses cd equivlent
pvp wise, 3head3armor2hand1foot is usually more then good enough

[tropic summit]

well you can now make an alliance to fight vlad kun perhaps?

[keen vapor]

Malogro wants to chill on D1 so no

[eager mountain]

this is some wonder

[keen vapor]

Still waiting for Pach to answer

[keen vapor]

I don't level 5 OL

[eager mountain]

imma abandon my moran plan and cp pad now

[quiet fiber]

Deleted reply. I thought I misread, but turns out I didn't.

[keen vapor]

We skip 1 fight for the win

[quiet fiber]

It worked

Thank you Echo & Retro for pvp advises.

[keen vapor]

Let's gooooooooo

[vapid lake]

me woke up in time time to be a 🐀

[keen vapor]

<@&946725432554836008> this is the second one

[vapid lake]

$50

[keen vapor]

[vapid lake]

[tropic summit]

T1 who's linked?
T2 kinda bad
T3 you hoping noah to survive 3RL?
T4 scarlettable but i guess you expect that
T5 confusion of the highest order, waste of helmT

i'd say try to make 3 good teams and 2 copium instead of 5 copiums

and?

probably contested between blanc and mana based on their atk%

ye but your defense is as good as your 3 worst teams, in this case you're just killing yourself by distributing too much

[lone sequoia]

slow teams

no kill pressure

[tropic summit]

think of 3 good teams and 2 copium/bad teams instead

sort of

SG team is fine as a spare 4th or 5th team

4th team maybe use a biscuit team

[fathom rock]

Peace

[tropic summit]

ye but at what cost

[fathom rock]

10 pulls, worth

[tropic summit]

i guess this season covers your expenses for CA entry

[lone sequoia]

he attacked c4?

[fathom rock]

C4 was in c5 so we fight a lot

[lone sequoia]

c2 not safe

few hours in that rank secure the c4 spot

you will have to check a lot the last days

[fathom rock]

It aint thats why i monitor that almost the entire timw

[umbral belfry]

warzone

[tropic summit]

the gem wars

[fathom rock]

Yeah remember when i said im casual earlier

[tropic summit]

really hoping they raise that entry limit after the beta tests

[oak gale]

good? @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

that's helmT?

[vapid lake]

wait it's not treasured

[lone sequoia]

yeah, so D2~3 join the gem wars

[vapid lake]

no orange border on skills

[oak gale]

treasure still on the way

wait

[tropic summit]

at least i can defend against those

[oak gale]

are the two different?

[tropic summit]

treasure helm is SSS tier in PvP
normal helm is trashbin tier

[lone sequoia]

ff

[oak gale]

ye ik , but im preparing her since her treasure is on its way

what i mean is , for helmt , thats good or nah

[lone sequoia]

nah

[oak gale]

or how does treasure even work

[lone sequoia]

s2 lv7 at least*

[keen vapor]

Skill 2 maxed as well

[lone sequoia]

but if you just want a burst gen unit, s1 is fine