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oh yeah someone told me no p1 yesterday but I forgot someone else said no p2 too lol
3 rocks on burst weekend should be criminal 
I only got 1 
no but mine is really weak compared to like cindy lol
I got 2
0
She's a must for PvP, so building her is highly advised
"why aren't your pvp units built???"
now you know
how about changing approach and just focus on killing noah and biscuit? 2RL scar-trina
I got 1
Jinxed me 
I just mean she's 10/7/10 full overload, but she's 0 star and is 120k power vs my cindy at 200k
it's doable
you get 0 now 
@tropic summit
Yeah I watched it slow motion, and the only diff is your vid that won killed, Blanc first before Scarlet button pressed
While the vid the loss, killed Blanc upon Scarlet button press..
this few miliseconds of difference apparently is a difference between Blanc bursting or not. So assuming they are able to make their Blanc survive more until Scarlet bursts, they will always be able to cast indom. 
utter RNG then jesus 
imagine betting on these matchups during CA
ppl gonna lose money
I sent it without saving the cindy switch on accident and won anyways lol
Losing a winnable matchup bc of rng and then getting kicked out of CA 
PTSD kicks in
yea, everyone except RH dies, who uses her own b2 I think, then dies
also how the heck did RH survive it
the scarlet nuke killed blanc, she didn't die to scarlet s2
either way, I need to find a team that can cook this guy, either his t2 or t3 
No the one that won killed everyone, no on survived there while the one that lost Blanc was able to burst so Helm was alive.
No both vids Blanc died to Scarlet S2/natks, you can't find huge numbers on Blanc when Scarlet bursted on both vids
mm
The only difference the one who won, their Blanc died before Scarlet button is pressed.. while the one who lost, Blanc died when Scarlet button was pressed 
Why you aren't rerolling Scarlet lines then :pepeh:
is it an issue with RH then not generating enough burst to hit 2RL?
Well for short, just improve CS your unit with the lowest CS and you'll prolly be able out speed them by some ms quicker 
Nah I watch both, both vids RH hit cover
Their Emi is not Emi38
you're not wrong..
Prolly close but not the dream Emi yet
We're on full burst weekend 
lies
got 2 rocks
try this next, in T3 expect only cindy and noah to be alive
That proves it
if it wasn't you'll have 1 rock
and yet only 3 rocks 
explain this black magic 
1.5 rock* 

1st kraken 1 rock
2nd 1 rock
3rd nothing
i guess 0 * 2 is still 0 
lol joke aside how much investment does scarlet need for pvp? I always kinda stayed away from dumping too much rocks since she hasn't been very good in pve since I started
Yes, that's the math 
like do I need 4/4/4 max rolls or like.. what's "reasonable"
10/4/10 SR5-SR15
or
7/4/7 SR5 for ultra budget copium
oh for Ol, im 10/7/10 with sr5
seems decent enough
Why you say 444 then
give her some atk% OLs
i meant 4 ele 4 ammo 4 atack lol
cuz he's looking for this
Winning vid Left side Blanc died at this time before Scarlet button is clicked
Losing vid:Right Blanc died at this time when Scarlet button is pressed
This mili second of difference of Blanc dying was the difference of Blanc was able to do a burst or not 
sure @keen vapor can do that for you 
how consistent is that though 
my input shall be given by @keen vapor
i trust his cooking utensils
but why helmT can 1shot trina and centi in the end?
wish me gl 
Ill try and roll for some good attack rolls then. I'd love to use her but right now it just feel so silly when I have cindy right there for 66% more cp
record for science 
take care of her and she'll take care of your enemies
RH buffed Blanc debuffed + HelmT on indom with Charge damage buff.. not to mention both shots are crit too 
ALWAYS
You'll need to get enough ammo for 30 bullets somehow
So 1 ammo min
Attack very important
Some element lines in theory can be skipped as long as enemy Rapunzel is not staying alive 
But also you shouldn't, Trina buffs her greatly for raids as well so you'll want as much ele either way
cheer arena is gonna be fun on these matchups, time to lose credits 
damn. Can you explain why she was able to be used against noah? I was always told it was just a hard counter
t3 lost
but my leftover t2 won lol
what in the world 
I'm here
as long as I don't get hit by a lightning
meanwhile sabotaging echo's home to send a lightning in his room
faster 2RL team than 3RL leads to that outcome
so she can become monster auto with buff like that
Yeah
thanks for the advice. damn she'll be back for electric raid? def gotta fix this lol
a lot of nikke on indom with double buff will hit like a truck, as long as they don't get stuck hitting an invulnerable taunter 
why are you typing to me, ask @keen vapor 
wrong pic, thats my cindy not my scarlet lmao
I wish that was my scarlet lol
I'll miss it if you don't ping 
Their Emi is bad, can't even reach Anis at P5 
just noticed my noise doesn't have a purple doll on her
ok i'll try like this
for my def
wait 2RL B3 but enemy is already B1? T3 @worthy knoll 
tbf SBS burst, not emi, and I don't think her normal shots outside her own burst reach the entire team
It was their Emi
See Laplace go down
Their Emi burst level is prolly so low
@lunar pawn T3 lost because that MF has CS% on centi and noah aswell 
mother of CS%
Blanc with burst at 7
Noise 444 if budget, people say more investment is wanted
maybe only burst 7
I guess you'll need Mana in CA so 444
Oh wait nvm, you are right so that 2M was just normal atk
I thought it was a delay Emi burst 
it was SBS, you can see his emi continuously shooting her rockets throughout the fight
Yeah I said it above
Moran 444
Trina heavy invest on skill 2
Rosanna needs to be maxed 
hey, a win is a win 
i'm more concerned about your future wins, keep these matchups saved because their CS% are headache worthy
maybe I could improve my "throwaway" 2nd team if this guy beats me again
got a whole glossary of them, dw
Mmh?
seems like T3 is 2.5RL with CS%, noise B1 was on scarlet B3 which lead to noah B2 
Hmm? It was not blocked by Noah
Nero Moran Quiry comp 
Just simple not enough damage after Noise Max hp up, Cindy got invul from Biscuit
next challenger

Its Biscuit immune
that's noise B1 on scarlet B3 for a team that theoretically was 3RL?
Not Noah immune
Cindy and Noah
uhhhhh ๐คจ
so noise cast B1 on 3RL against a scarlet 2RL B3?
shouldn't a scar trina rh 2RL wipe a noise 3RL?
Yeah, they prolly have some CS but their Noise did burst first before Doppel Scarlet did
y'all using me as live tester and I don't even get paid 
you're paid in science contributions 
where do I cash that in
good question 
btw thank you as always @worthy knoll @glad meteor 
Nah, I already said in RPS right, a built Noise is enough to facetank double buff non Blanc. Trina still faces the same problem as XAnne, just that she just buffs more than XAnne but is still mitigated by damage reduction
No Quiry
you'll have to use Alice as DPS
hmm then even a scar-trina-rh on high invest against a noise would not wipe uh? (excluding crit) ๐ค
Its an investment battle now 
dayum..
noise can tank scar nuke with trina+RH then?
seems to be the case, although i didn't have examples in my bracket yet ๐ค
Noise max burst and S1, with other units properly dolled.. though enemy also has a Biscuit so that was a factor too
maybe if noise burst 10
he had SR doll but not maxed
If no Biscu, that Noah and Cindy already dead. Biscuit protected them
You can see Biscuit procced S2 already on Noah and Cindy before your Scarlet bursted
๐ค
kinda weird though, didn't see cindy fall below 50% hp for biscuit to trigger
unless decoy hp counts too?
Play it slow mo, the heal there is the way to see if Biscu S2 triggered
More like full Built Noise vs low built Scar Trina RH, Noise has no businesses tanking that both sides at max out and no level gap.
Decoy can't protect Cindy from Scarlet S2
I know it triggered, just wondering why it did
Or skill 3...
that's what i was thinking, i'd like to have an enemy decently built noise to test my built scar against that 
We are just talking about pre burst now so Skill 3 is irrelevant
noise did burst before scarlet nuke though, the nuke killed her, but he was fast enough to b1 before I b3
@tropic summit 2 RL Noah Biscuit Anis doesn't do better either
yeah 2.5RL with CS%
RH Trina buffed Scarlet S2 was able to push their Cindy to 50%
She had 1 buff even 
why are you running s.anis against scarlet
cringe dude, rerolling for CS% all around but not whaling to go beyond his level 
Bc that's what people will do against my defense 
he has a nasty amount of CS% all around 
Noah immune, Cindy immune, they just need someone to B1, then they are guaranteed a full burst chain 
oh you testing in reverse
but ye don't run s.anis or SBS on def if possible, in your case especially
Then what? Alice for third team? 
but use emi as indom instead of SBS
try to remain 3RL ofc
look what have you done LOL @tropic summit
Why would you use 2RL Anis against 3rl team?
farming rookie points? ๐ค
why you no challanger 1 yet, too weak, keep going 
Couldn't find an scar Trina on rookie...
they're already 200 (on some characters)
hard for me..
damn these whels, get past your 160 wall and you can finally slap them 
Nvm, found one
how about rookie pvp? could you make another composition? xD
I was called skill issued for not attacking challenger 1 by someone here, so here it is 
3RL stall would be better there. 
my current pos
LMAOO THATS TOO FAST
gonna have to merge them into...
oh actually T1 seems decent
qeq naga alice noir jackal
Wallet diffed 
ah yes, the good ol' 1 dmg 
speedrun any% into assisted suicide 
One day i will be as skillful at pvp as he is 
i'd rather keep my money than becoming THAT good at pvp 

might aswell play singleplayer games on easy mode instead, same experience
railtracer is already C1 isn't it? 
I wonder if modapk would work on this game's Arena. Ofc you would still be banned if it worked. 
I don't think Blanc can survive without Biscuit 
damn it, rank 2 and 1 is whales
Rapu
I don't think Emi tanky enough for P2 
yes it worked back then idk now 
well, a sad reality you'll see for several months 
your best bet is that they quit somewhen
Whales quitting, quite the rare sight
let's be real that's what arena shuffle is for, if the whale in ur bracket quit SU will shuffle new ones in
you wanna volunteer and show us how it's done? 
Yeah, it's one common combo. If P2 isn't tanking enough move it to p3 and equip vigor on p4+5.
that's what rapu is there for, ya silly
I'm back from dishing
I would like some help, recently got RH but she's 3/4 ol with very bad procs, doll 0 SSR. Also finished helm treasure finally she's tier 3 doll 7/10/7. Any ideas how i can improve these teams?
Hi back, nice to meet you
should i wait or open now? xD
doesn't matter they give R units
don't you need dupes for 160 wall 
sorted by power
what in the world are these things 
You could also move Emi out to p1 Blanc p2 if Rapu s3 has low enough level and would make revived Emi low enough HP to be Blanc.
well, I calculated it to some extent back in the times. Noir jackal and noise have quantum
those were not the teams we gave you to work on 
But we usually use that combo with SBS, not Emi... Emi suck on defense. 
before adding helm and rh they were 3-3.5rl
That might work, do you have defense comp recommendation?
can't believe Sui chan asking me for def comps 
someone is slacking 
LOL Exactly my top 1 friend whales does the same to me 1 or seconds in the fight I dead Except Biscuit passive which makes me not die for 5 seconds XD 500K CP GAP
either way taking a look 
thanks, if prev teams are still the best I'll try them
I will ask you to gimme DEF comp. 
My comp keeps trading C1 with a whale, who knows if someone has another approach 
and yes, it's a whale, his 3rd team just cp gap lmao
wait hold on... is that a RH on 3rd line?!
@keen vapor he has RH on 3rd line 
Bad Lines maybe
Max core bunny soda. 
i've never seen this 

ultra mad lad
But hey Alice is First
- Helping you to reach Red Name

About as good as my Max doll DKW. 
as I said. I got her recently, didnt have all piligrims equip so she's 3/4 with a very bad procs
others were really lucky to get 3 lines from just OLing
Yea depending on double or Triple lines with blue lines in Mix is like My Alice 230K cp vs My Rumani 160K cp 70K Cp gap and Im 461 Synch Luck LUCK LUCK
This man has his priorities straight, see the max doll Bunny soda? No need to question his preference. 
soda carried me for as long as 25th or so story chapter
back when I didnt have any decent nikkes
Alice is a bunny also Tho 
so yeah
naga centi cind helmT noise
scarlet blanc bsoda RH jackal
noah biscuit liter sbs noir
to think the day would come with an unlinked RH 
cubes
quantum on jackal, biscuit, noir
vigor on blanc, noise
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube
@unique mountain he talked about your RH. 

should I put RH over someone later if she gets decent?
IF? did you just say IF? 
SHE HAS TO 
haha right, it just can take a lot of time
she should be one of your highest priority
godly in campaign
godly in pve
godly in pvp
godly in bed
godly in towers
she should be one of your highest priority
I dunno about good in bed, maybe clumsy
with these overall cp went a bit down meh, but gonna give it a try
1 copy to start
you're already godly, two can't coexist
Helm skin so overrated
i volunteer to find out 
also does centy need temperance as well?
or maybe adjutant
centi, jackal, rumani can run quantum
same goes for trina and anis situationally
my centy has 2/4 ol
#gacha-rolls message how yall think?
should I eventually 4/4 her for cp or I'll most likely swap her
most utilities are fine on 4/4/4
I mean OL
indeed
is the new characters any good for the pvp replacement? @tropic summit
This is basically what our RH gonna be.

About Splendamin Played Bready story She said afteR getting our Order of Splendamin a Mass Production Nikke Disappered without a Trace
So does that mean SPLENDAMIN = Mass PRODUCE Nikke? asd123ASH1K2JH3HASDK123
LOL This Line "Sometimes having no answer, is the answer."
could use mana, rouge has very limited usage, rest are mostly cope, sugar could be a battery if you really got none
what could u suggest changing from this lineup?
Splendamin is Unexplained yet where they get it small amount of it = Mass produceable , It taste like chicken, It taste Like beef, Pizza, what else can meat TASTE, IF NOT MEAT? (Mass produce Nikke? HOPEFULLY NOT Cannibalism ASD12ASD123)
AAAAA!!!
FINALLY!!!!
Goddamn Helm.
replace phantom with mana, rest unchanged
Me same 
okay!
WOAH WELL DONE
You don't do submissions right? @tulip quest
I Don't
you mean making Art?
Of course no one does 
No
Sub
Missions
Oh I do in Nikke IN GAME?
Yes
Read old man chat
IM LOST
alright I get it I will after this
old man chat? 
Indeed... Aside of a literal ton of other mats, b*ch managed to miss 40% and then 60% chance...
Same 
is it name Old man the LOG?
What is your take about the Urn
I still have questions
IT'S the Old Man sidequest
IN Messages
Okay I RED it again He died but the Ashes wasn't even found in the Columbarium
Can speculate many things
Raptures killed the people and decimated his dead body alongside them
Or he still Alive (COPE)
I Like Raptillions Story tho
He even helped with His own Mommy whale in Main Quest XD
His Introduction was like Hello Mother Truckers IM BACK
Well Overall I like NIKKE's Worldbuilding they aren't afraid to Kill a character when it's Her "TIME" even tho she is so popular
It adds to the Gravity and seriousness of it's dark story, not all dark but no all butterflies for sure
Some games storylines just happy2x and NO ONE DIES Like even if they hit by spears ETC ETC man they are afraid to kill a character.

I just missed 65% chance
Sorry to hear that. I know how upsetting it is.
PILGRIM Tower crystal? XD that gives me Belorta and Mica LOL
Was expecting 1 Cinderella after opening 5 GIVES R AND SR characters 
and 50 piece u farm for 1 month or more just to give R characters I just feel bad I lost even tho I, can't explain the feeling
Ah, BEAUTIFUL symbolic revenge in arena against a f**** whom I couldn't beat for weeks now ๐ฅฒ
watch me miss 70%
Ganbaree
and..... did you miss or you succeeded?

That feels so bad

they really don't want me to get Laplace treasure before CA
Been there lol
Wasted 12 rocks on this and this was the best I got. Really wanted to kms. 
KMS
This guy's team is so fast i need help
Slightly slow Biscuit so you can time Noah to tank Scarlet's AoE
Ah I see I'll give it a shot
wait
It was the forbidden F word...

Add * or remove u doesn't work now. 
Wtf still work I guess. 
Better just use wtf

I only wanted to replace Cdmg from line 2-3 of crown with hit rate at least. Is that too much to ask?

This should mirror their burst, 21% cs emi
It's almost 100 rock on Crown now with the C. Speed and C.dmg refuse to go away. 
This game is super rigged sometime
It is
I tried but failed
I guess CS and Cdmg has 90% to appear as line 3 on anyone that's not RL and SR. 
I tried tanking with Noa, but Emilia gets me. And I get 1 shot by scarlet
Should be how this game works. They rigged the chance.
This
You need 1-2RL slower Noah
sir, your problemo first is the CP, 26% deficit 

No wonder
I have resources, to buff it np
it's kinda big problem
Nah this is 25% deficit and you don't even have biscuit. 100% lose.
you're down to 60% of your stats 
Ok aside from deficit, what team to use?
this will be you attacking
aka speedrun any% assisted suicide
Ok ok I know I'm debuffed sheesh
who are good burst gens, looking to replace my alice and ein in sp arena team comps
alice in 2025 arena, wild
there for the cp pad tbh she got 73k cp
you'd need any 2RL team possibily with noah or indom
wait rlly? neon is a good burst gen?
She is
if you care about your CP, don't bother tho 
People rarely use her due to cp lower than SSR
centi, jackal, rumani, trina, emilia, laplaceT, xmaiden are your go to for burst gen
260k cp less
only viable SR is anis
wish i got noah ngl her and RH are my only ones missing 
Looks fine to go? @tropic summit
i think we can safely assume that guy is on drugs at this point
i got noir built should i remove ein for her then?
T3 is rng
ye i built the bunnies bcs i didnt have Good mgs for glasses before 
he's still noahless 
wat cube should i use for noir
How can a whale be Noahless
You don't need Noah to beat those kind of teams.
i know but it's still limiting the options and i'm tired of seeing that bay 
and Rapunzel-less
Do you have Trina?
Zel-less Zone Zero 
nope >.<
Why you skip her
You're whale
what makes you think im a whale?
I never a fan of Helm bursting in PvP, the only good use case is very fast team against slower team with single dps/Jackal
the sustain is something else tho, also pretty huge single hit target and autos
You could use Moran+Cindy with SR like Alice+Rouge hitting Viper to beat team 1.
Team 2 you could be it with 2rl Emi, so replacing Centi with HelmT...
Skin
Easy to counter with 2 dps
I'm using SAnis as main dps and Alice to bait HelmT, easy win
dont buy monthly pass so it doesnt qualify me as a whale
is rosanna and mana team still viable?
Your name reminds me to certain Doujin artist

got the wrong person there xD
implying sui chan reads doujin then hmmm 
I believe every vtuber at some point searching for their own doujin
Moran+Centi+Cindy+Rouge+Noir should be fine. Against team 1 I guess.
For team 3, 2rl bay won't catch that Scarlet nuke. But you may win the normal attack duel if you could get past Moran somehow. 
i think a few of the hologirls actually admitted looking up their own... pretty sure one of them was iris and the other matsuri
Just a normal day with Matsuri
Funny enough, judging from their popularity, I still barely find any doujins about them
A small fix should be to move HelmT to Centi position, Emi needed to remain linked or it won't work.
And add Cindy to HelmT place...
It's dumb, but I finally got my Sugar to SR5 with 100 blues, 20 purple and 20 red.
Now that I'm out of all rocks and doll mats I could finally rest in pieces.

time to build Crow
I meant, I used 100 blue and 20 purple to get to R5. Then 20 red to R15. 
ye but where's your crow 
surely has a spot for your CA
She is in charge of consultant room. You already know.
lvl 1 crow sacc
at least she'd be for once useful to something
Something like this?
i will try both if one fails but thanks anyway.
@tropic summit And yeah this guy is probably on drugs and is probably asleep now. Always hitting me for 3rd spot and never touches the top2 and its been like this for 2 weeks now. lol
Mast is there to be sacc, I didn't spend 140 blue on her to R5 her for nothing. 
Is your Rouge full OL and with 2+ Ele line? If not just use Alice I guess
full OL geared but she doesnt have elemental dmg lines. switch to Alice
how do you properly counter a RL2 blanc/emilia combo? only with your own blanc? (haven't tried this team yet - I guess I should slow down to RL3?)
That's unlinked, untaunted, unprotected Blanc, you can kill her w/o burst in normal circumstance
In before his Blanc has more ATK than his ASS. 
but not before she bursts and then it's up to luck more or less whether or not I survive 10 seconds of bombardment from emilia - I'm using my scarlet to counter another team of his
Yeah, you should slow down to 3rl....
If you wanted to do it like Alt said ...
Moran+Naga+Drake+Noir+LapT/Sugar/SG 
I think I overcooked now I'm totally lost
ever since the reshuffle for some reason I get stomped. I've been changing the teams around so much since then without it working. Used to be 2-4th always, now I'm usually 7th ahh
Also the relic cube almost always seems useless to reach RL breakpoints in the calcs, as it's usually like 1% and in the teams where I'm 96 to B getting relic on all of them shivs the team
So mad I didn't get Trina in 200 pulls
Hmm tell me your result when you done.
It's normal for me. Ice rose maiden took 400. Cinderella initially took 200. I go on massive losing sprees then get really lucky for a time period. Been that way since anny I think
got really lucky with the collab though
and bready mmm
tks for making me feel better about 9 multis in a row without SSR before getting her on the 10th ๐
haha insert gambling meme here
I just gotta pray the wishlist comes in clutch lmao
Thanks for making feel better about 110 pulls and 200 tickets for 1 x Xmid. 
(I've had bay on it without a single copy since her release)
I ended up spending 200 tickets on her too btw hahahaah 400pulls+mileage made me want to quit. Still an addict though
Did you MLB her? 
If 1 copy, it's too unlucky to be true.

Nah that was one copy. Oh and I got this during the same time period lol
Oh right I remember; I didn't get xlud at all but got several pilgrims so that at least lessened the pain. Initial 300 pulls I only got a single Tia copy, then the last 100 gave like 3 pilgrims. Then I sat there until 1 minute before xlud disappeared before usiung ticket. Ahh the chaos.
dude should i change smth?
@tropic summit
So you got this. 
nah looks good still, you're only synch 140 anyway
Is dolla functional in pvp tho?
alr
it's copium until you find something better if anything
Man, I sat for like 3 hours cooking the other week prepping for CA, made 3 2rl teams only to get stomped 3 days in a row. Now I've remade my team several times and I think it's getting worse every time haha
it's all part of the journey 
can't git gud without first getting to learn
My scarlet teams always end up losing at same RL. Investing in PVP teams is painge though with how scarce the resources and how frequent new units required are ahhhh, building the maids rn and it's draining all my funds
fr. Just so pain that I did better when I didn't know anything just going off instinct and base team foundations. I wish there were more team guides that just straight up gave good team comps regardless of all the factors so I could rip off and stop thinking about arena
It worked but i forgot to record >.<
it happens and like railtracer said, its part of the learning process.
this one
blood is online?
he is but maybe busy
ive been staring at the wrong channel waiting for a chef to come online 
man i am totally out of it... For defense, can HelmT phase 3 help sustain against 21% CP deficit team? Running Helm/Ein/Blanc/Centi/Jackal vs Noise/SAnis/Ice Maiden/Noah/Alice
Ein could do better if double buffed but helm could help a bit, just she might get block lifesteal with noah
dumb it down for me im echo's kisama
RH already in T1 for buff
and this is the highest CP team i can get until trina/scar gets overloaded.... finally hit 341 today thanks to chips
so what other unit is there to 2x buff ein
Crown, Maxwell
i could replace blanc with alt maiden and take another CP hit to 23/34%
ooh.
Replace centi with crown
finally some use for crown
Check cp
centi? not blanc?
Centi
Blanc and liter if RH in another team
double buff Ein will clean them since no biscuit
trusting your Ein is invested
Crown actually buff Ein more than Liter
what does S10 mean?
skill 1 lv 10
S1 lv10
my kisama theorycraft is bursting with helm one-shots their attacker and Ein's near feathers help squeeze out sustain dmg
hmmm
Ein was not made to be sub dps

you need to burst with her
been getting crushed using EIn to burst tho with the same team
thought maybe getting Thelm to phase 3 would make a differnce
yes
This is not attacking but def team? 
You don't know what deficit you will be in because you don't know what team the attack you with...

i have a good idea

he doesnt switch it up much
to confirm he uses defense for atk you need to use your atk teams for defense
we both use same loadouts for attack and defense
HelmT doesn't help sustain against wiping. Or invulnerable from Noah and biscuit, no dmg, no heal.
only diff is now im 341
for blanc sbs rapu emilia laplace team, should I position the first 3 like sbs rapunzel blanc instead, so that rapu is more likely to trigger her stun? 


@tropic summit now beat all 3 teams 

but he is 10 sync levels above me...
ill give blood's setup a try and see if it holds...
auto and hope for the best

my bracket is starting to shake up 
Maybe you didn't know but Ein nuke could be buffed by "full burst" buff. Also, her after nuke dmg also decent enough, Liter won't buff her after nuke dmg much.

i am an absolute noob at pvp- i js try to copy what i see online
so i'm asking for some comp suggestions to see if i have anything to improve my comps. these are the comps i'm currently running:
- rrh, maid anchor, alice, sbs, maid mast
- red hood, scarlet, blanc, trina, jackel
- rumani, biscuit, privaty, drake, bay
my first team has a tendency to die more than the other two but my third one i feel is also pretty weak. also wondering if there are any guides on youtube to watch to learn more about pvp.
If you only wanted to nuke and not care about surviving afterward

I meant Crown as off burst buffer. Her skill 1+2 is better than Liter s3.
she'll def be main B2 on some team in CA tho
thats why i was hesitant to drop centi for crown. you're asking me to give up guaranteed burst before opponent for the sake of CP. Defense-wise, Running ein/helm/crown/centi/jackal = best defense is good offense

You will win in that match up with Ein burst.
You will be auto attack to death at 21% deficit with that team anyway.
we shall see
Kinda not asked you to use Crown for more CP. I thought it was attacking question so I provided you with a way to win. 
For DEF team you could just move Ein to p1 and equip HelmT with Vigor and done. No need for more change. 
If they could auto attack your they could auto attack you. No need to worry about it. 
ehh its fine. my T2 been getting clocked for 3 weeks straight now. at least this is somewhat viable
just gonna focus on trina now
I guess my luck with Nikke today is trash. Manufacturer molds is like this as well. Time to log out.
I suggest checking pins in here and prydwen's pvp guide

your t2 seems fine but I'd personally switch scarlet and rh's positions, make rh at least in pos 3 so your b2 is blanc. your t1 is 
alongside t3 with both bisc and bay, if you're doing that I'd burst with bay instead for anti nukes
if it makes you feel any better, i pulled a yulha dupe after buying the tower clear package (for core dust obvs). then 2 10 pulls on reg. banner of only SR/Rs. converted into one gold mold.... FOLKWANG
Folkwang is good. 
My sweaty waifu

perfect- i'll swap their positions in t2 and t3 and ty for the directions to the guides !!
any suggestions for my t1
i hear maid mast isn't the best for pvp- it's the team that struggles the most, i'm just not sure who to sub in or if i have any other desirable comps 
MG units are pretty bottom tier in PVP
Me using crown in pvp
At your sync level I'd honestly just auto team it, you're still a little low and not too much options. I do recommend wishlisting noah alongside what main guides say, and look into building rapu
ReiT is can also be a nuke if you wanna build her
if you're still using that same t1 though don't put rrh in pos 1. if she dies it's rip. try either pos 3 or 4 with sbs as main b3
blood just sweet talked me into it too

wait bow that I think about it 
@chrome basin wishlist centi too. once you get her, if you wanted you could replace blanc for centi on t3, with trina as your main b2 and that team should be a 2 RL? although that team is a glass cannon vs a scar indom
but with that, that frees up space for a blanc + biscuit team for t3 if you wanted
personally i prefer scar indom over glass cannon scar but 
How many units does Drakes b3 hit in pvp?
@tropic summit your def failed against ASDF
Even before that it only took me one rookie match to discover that I can scar Trina your Emilia 3RL revived and Noah 2 RL my own scar team
My take is ||He was turned on the dinner of some family. Turns out Bready discovered too much thanks to her sense of taste and that's why her squad got brainlocks, to not spread the reason why the Ark can eat at all while being underground without using mushrooms. The ark eats corpses with salt and "
" ||
please no
Just 1 iirc
Some bronze rank tried to fool me with "it hits 3" the other day 
Did it
tbh idk. Im just lowkey guessing
A nice reminder that Splendamin is a localization of Perfecto 
Wait a moment
What's Splenda if it's not Sugar? 
....... 
The localized advice session should have been SplendaMAX
rather than Juicy Perfecto
SplendaMAX
for champions
Can't blame you since neither Noah cooking of my own worked either

Noah Moran Helm Emilia Maiden could be my next cook
Noah Moran Helm is pretty good imo
Did I read your mind or you changed your message?
U read my mind 

from her s1 and OL 
Elemental line in another reality 
It doesn't round up or down
so 11.53+10.74 would qualify for 21%? this is the team and im wondering if it would actually be 2.5RL
with the 10.74 coming from her S1
You need the cube to reach 21%? Then yea, if you've used the calculator
cubes arent actually needed outside of biscuit apparently. What im wondering about is that S1 would have one strike of delay because it requires a full charge attack before the buff is applied
worried that im fooling myself and would actually need more OL investment
I mean, ideally emilia would reach 21% with her OL and skill only
So you can then slap quantum on her
would it matter? I was under the impression to not "waste" cubes if they dont push you past a break point
Plenty helpful, quite a few teams that are 2.5RL can be pushed to 2RL with quantum
Idk your case though
but again im really rusty with all of this, I havent updated my teams in months. Only just now starting to get harassed
im assuming its because champ arena hype
Yea
It does
Hmmmmm
You have 4 black charge speed lines? 
im assuming thats referring to like, my situation where 11.53 comes from OL and the 10.74 comes from the skill
which would total 22.27
Does the 17% charge speed from OL consists of phases 8 - 11 cs randomly?
First rounds to 12
Second to 11
23 : frog sip:
Yes, there's a delay
Still, it won't be detrimental to calc
okay whew
Uh huh
Well, it can also be like this
3 tier eleven + Adjutant cube
I see. What lvl for adj cube to reach at 17%? Lvl 8?
all this time i didnt even know rounding was a thing
3? Rounds up 
Yeah, I'm not sure on .5 exact 
Just slap Adjutant to be sure
It happens to everyone 
Did you knew we had a hit rate debuff for using auto aim?
I was aware of that change when I saw the visual circle change upon toggling on and off
like...the day the patch was implemented
sometimes i slap on auto aim for non focused bursts in HM, setting targets and letting it fly

oh shit now i need to check my alice...she may not actually be 100%
16% is enough. Functionally u just need >15%
if...ALL THIS TIME
She may be 101 
rounds to exactly 100
I would think 37% could work. Im not sure tbh, 38% was Keripo math
At worse uโll be at 2.1RL instead of 2RL which is still fine
there is no exact number, cs advantage is relative not absolute
its opponenet cs depedent
man now im second guessing all my calcs...I have a derpy crown team and I thought it was 3rl but now im not sure
Usually burst calc is 99% correct. Trust. No one gonna have so many 17% units
why emi is 21/38 over 16.66666 or 33.333333 is due to her s1 doesnt cast during first shot
and again cs% is not rl%
the math is pretty simple on surface level, but due to rl misunderstanding and opponent cs, its complicated
Just cp-gap ur opponents, easiest 
so okay, another derp question on this burst calculator. Cindy says "weird aim" in the category. Does that means shes completely unreliable and you need to go well over the breakpoint for burst?
2rl crit rosa or cp gap is best defense
Yeah, I would think its enough. 2RL vs 2.1RL functionally no difference
(Just dont do scar 2rl vs 2.1rl scar, thats just dumb)
Oh the weird aim can just ignore. U can use the nikke deck app. Its the same
Still cant win my 1.66RL team 
well my quantum cube is still lvl 6 and the deck builder doesnt seem to accomodate for a quantum cube less than 7. I need to use the excel sheet based one. heres my teams but its currently WIP
whats this some kind of priconne thing?
Put Noir in P5
Noise in P1 can have a hard time surviving at 3RL. Noah does help to alleviate pressure somewhat
good cooks
how would noir benefit from p5? I put tia in that slot because I though the taunt would starve burst gen
nikke pvp 
but again im winging it here, Im a semi competent
Noir would likely be jackal linked, so when sheโs P5, opponent would shoot at P5 Noir for more jackal feed
if you have suggestions for a better cook id be willing to hear it out. I have everyone but trina and chainsaw man collabs
it looks similar to that priconne pvp counter thing. care to share me the sauce?
ty
Bless you @swift mango it held 
nah so far nikke doesnt have that priconne counter website
its been 2 years and no one make it 
including the CN priconne pvp simulator
someone supply me with hard mined data. i'll make it ๐
advice for 2025? new defense team changes?
Trina instead of Poli if you have her, I assume T1 lack atk buffer to one shot some comps
T2 Should be ok
T3 prob 2RL Cindy with HelmT if you have her
Is Drake with the treasure strong enough to consider being a burst finisher to wipe out others teams?
helm T is normal or swimsuit one?
Helm Treasured
for t3 2rl cindy helmt and anis? is that what you meant
Noah Centi Cindy Helm.T Noise, 2RL refer to burst gen speed, which in this case very fast
Can use Anis instead of Centi
Anis then
We're aiming for fastest burst gen, so Cindy can Nuke your enemies before they can even burst
That's why Anis/Centi/Rumani is preffered
and make sure Scarlet has highest/ 2nd highest attack in that team to get Jackal link
advice for atk? I know its team specific but overall good teams to use?
this was my go to team when I didnt want to think too much
ah yes, god comp
It's good as is if you don't want to think too much
But personally I'd like to use Scarlet Trina Flex Flex Jackal as their own team, just like the defense team
In fact, Scarlet Trina better as attack team than defense team
And I'm using Noah SAnis for attack team with RH so yeah
do you have 3 atk team basically? or still just 2 strong ones
You only need 2 atk teams that are adjusted to beat the enemy in spa 
I have 3 for a good measures lol
can i copy
I don't think it'll work for you, and my 3rd team is still in progress
And you have better collection than mine
You dont copy attack teams, it depends on the enemy def 
I know but sometimes I rather just have a somewhat decent teams and just rearrange them without slotting them around
I wish they give us like premade team saves
oh dear, another defense win, it becomes so rare that i thought the effort of building def was pointless, guess not
Believe 
guess my whale jp bracket is something else
good old days when defense used to work decently before thelm


are these good for pvp? (sorry for my bad england)
yeahi switched her to p2

do not put her there either.
p3 and up. preferably p3 or p4 since shotties can target p5
alright
i dont build pvp so yeah omegalul
Helm Treasured? Noah? Centi? etc?
ok so i dont have THelm and Noah for now
what else can i do?
for cindy and sbs team (sbs team is largely cp padding)
also have moran but unbuilt so excluded
not now, not yet
i'm rushing campaign rn so i am trying to get sync level as fast as i could so this is where i stop for now
@tropic summit yay your teams worked, defended against the guy I used to always lose
wish i had that bracket cuh
Now I really hope I also defend against sniperu and it's chill top 2
Scarlet Trina Liter CPPad Jackal
Blanc ScarletBS RedHood Biscuit Centi
Crown Grave Cindy Rumani XMaiden
Adjust to avoid deficit
Invest to batteries because you're lacking that
batteries well, i have to spend on resilience and bastion
Even SR Anis is an option if CP isn't the issue
Not that batteries
Rocket Launcher, Shotguns
oh you MEANT burst batteries
thanks i will adjust it later when i relogin into the game
i'm trying to OL (not rerolling, just OL) the batteries
Anis SR too, if you can cp pad for her
ill try
How many SSR will I get? Place your bet.
Scam test
Folkwang * 2
3 jackal
and throw in a crow or 2
This one I wished...
Result: 7.
above average. ๐
close
congrats
congrats?
a
Tia?
Got my flower girl โค๏ธ
yo blood doubt you saw me @ ing you earlier
but Crown held and the guy wasted all his attempts for today
Idk. Maybe not.
I just lose to my whale because calculated wrong and not enough dmg.
It's case by case.
3good nikke
Compensation for 50 normal pulls only 1 Trina. 
i always drop rosanna in high mold
so you have a strong anti-jackal team unit, whats sad abt that
Build her
. My Rossanna is built and only lb1.
if it were only summer roasnna chasing you...
i was gonna build rosanna after siren but i got red hood now so
gotta speedrun making rh the top 5 highest cp unit on my account 
im getting PTSD for you thinking about the rocks and gears and mats
how can i not sad

my ros is super already
that's such an on brand thing for shift up's RNG to do.... give you a investment hungry pilgrim when you already have a long list of others that need to get built
but my maxed core rosanna is from high mold
all of it
i was referring to penguin's RH
My Centi gonna max core soon and mostly from molds, zero from standard. 
Even though I wishlist her.
oh sorry
for me it's her and it's not a very good one to be stuck with
running out of space in sp arena to use
too slow 
my centi c4 and has never touched my wishlist
the mods having a s*izure watching him open mold
is wishlisting affect high mold?
I would use the heck out of her if she core +6.
My highest core unit is centi with +4. I remember your account's lower synch level than mine.
i don't slack on campaign
until very recently i stopped trying because lack of RH is demotivating
Where are you at campaign?

but now i have RH, once she's geared up it's back to playing on 37% deficit
weird how certain units chase you like yandere waifus
stuck on 23-21 while other ppl lower cp than me are passing it easily simply just by having RH B1
Deficit doesn't matter. Only matter is where are you at. 

That's not really impressive
my top cores are ein (5), naga (5), maxwell (5), centi. but i dont count naga cuz she gets wishlisted
bro other people that have red hood around my level are on chapter 26
i'm 3 chapters behind just by missing her
one guy on my f list is on ch27
Slacker not by choice then. The worse kind.
i reached 23-21 a very long time ago
i stopped caring because that was the stage that made me realize trying so hard without RH is pointless
other people just pass the stage so easily by bruteforcing the first wave of enemies with sheer dmg from RH B1 while i'm stuck there
and eat a silencer

but those people probably spent 2-300 rocks to get optimal lines
My purple x10. 
DKwaifu
RH can have shit lines and i would still pass the stage if i have access to lv 10 RH B1
dropping my team's cp just to play RH would make my team stronger
100%
vote for DKW in poll this year
Complain about not having RH
Actually have her but not built

@umbral crown take a look at this flex.
are u gonna give me ur skill books to build her

don't worry i'm still missing the literally most important pvp unit
now THAT one i really have absolutely no resources to build unless they give a skill reset
When you get her you would be in a bracket with 3 whales and 3 actual pvpers.
I already voted for her last year. 
Not like she would be winning. 
whenever i think about F2P and paying 9.99 for skill books.... i think to myself, it's just a meal.
so i skip out on pizza and get mcdonalds. why not
only on meth days
i only say this because i got uber popup notice for a deal.. two pizzas with real italian sausage for $30ish...
but alas...uber has stopped handing out discounts for uberone like candy for about a year now... so will probably go with mcdonalds 
fat
well yeah... you were running fairly weird teams before 
good to know it worked
The fak is REAL ITALIAN SAUSAGE
Chan?
DAFAQ why am i still not on your ignored list

retro's def cookin' 
So Railtracer is a girl no wonder
Shud have noticed

Ok girlie
first of all we need to get within ch1-ch4 and 3 of those positions are CP cut off 
the leftover position meanwhile is contested by my chinese triad
i knew what was linked and still clicked

if anything we got cheer arena guaranteed? 
just join the cheerleader squad
indeed
are you the same guy who quit nikke?

the hope is that once beta ends they expand the entry to ch1-ch10 or ch1-c6 
or was that someone else with prydwen in their name
Do you play LoL

one of the few lads with 3 teams 2RL resistant 
playing lol in 2025
that's the problemo, somehow gotta defend against these 2 reliably
your best bet is CS%, rosanna and speeeeeed (or is it time to build nero+moran) 
aye, see you in a few seasons 
I'll cheer
...........
Btw
Big has perma locked C4
I think I'll sleep at c4 
Big?

Cant believe u got baited by that
Rn im holding ch2

More of the concept of why 
I think I have spread myself too thin. 32 units R15-SR5. Only 8 sr15. 
should've invested in Crow 
I did that 3 centuries ago
Im about to start malding campaign again i need a good benchmark on when to start
Sync lvl

4x ele + atk
500 rocks
He's BIG whale
https://youtu.be/3KZI8pKw7hY 361 but no helmT ol
Helm treasure 4/4/4 no ol phase 3
big whel, small ego 
341 definitely doable just consult @tropic summit
He used my same strats anyway 
ok i should be 361 by the time new chapter in april is out
I will start malding again by then
still recovering from PTSD
Hit c5 then c2-3
341 can ch27 with ol, i just needed 361 due to my abbysmal cp 
Only lv361 on the planet with below 600k
if he could hold it with even just 1 succesful def 
I have her now
my motivation is back
I can hit C3 yes 
He has 300k gems.
341 impossible without RH B1
NO WAY 
At low cp that sounds reasonable
Holding is np with gems. 
Rail when we hit ch1 
ssssshhhh
UwU
The first lowest clear that doesn't have RH is 600k cp, im like 550k
Ppl below me are clearing with RH at 520k
Uwu

Well when you hit 361 i record wall stage clears over there 
Nico nico nii
361 should be enough to plow right through 24-34 right
especially with 10/10/10 helmT
Farters don't stand a chance
Mine still 7/7/4 
Just heal through all that damage
Meow :3






