#pvp-arena
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Yeah but still doesn't show reward or let us check...
sure, i just went with safer route.
unlink p5 against sg means you risk having them indom
ahh
U want the feed from sg to increase rl speed.
u can see what dolls ur opponent in pvp has now too
true, but still to be at sync 387 and asking for help in rookie arena... you never know

@keen vapor wake up maintenance over
I didn't think my Whale Scarlet would be SR15. I always feel that it's a little bit weak. But now I know
black background = max, white = non-max, there's blue + white and also blue + black
ye but you need to be ch1-ch4
that may aswell be just a dream instead
need a TTS for @keen vapor playing this
personal alarm clock
real
I'm glad you guys love it so much.
Hello guys we are in a gem war now and I need help making at least 3 different sets of teams to rotate all this week and I need help, I got quantum lvl 8 and vigor lvl 6
oi, that you? we testing ur def i guess
@calm gull
:)))))
@tropic summit
Your big job of the day. 
I haven't even bother to change my def for a month now. 
there are 3 plp already wasting more than 1000 gems in my bracket 
you can cook too though 
taking a look 
oh just noticed the fact dolls show up makes it easier to cook
now we know if they're already treasured or not
nah i have win until i change 1 line scarlet ammunition capacity to atk :))) scar solo sbs but scar out of ammo
i think rinn changed recently defenses that's why i said that
🇱
You only need c4. 
maybe he wants those 3k gems? 
math ain't mathing
By spending 600? 
revenue is the only thing that matters guys, expenses don't exist 
scarlet blanc rh laplace jackal
naga centi cind helmT noise
noah biscuit rrh sbs emilia
cubes
quantum on jackal, centi
temperance on noah
vigor on blanc, biscuit, noise
any other nikke run highest lvl cube
notes:
raise your CP on utilities then you could get your teams reviewed:
noise, biscuit, rapunzel, jackal, blanc
Let me innn 
Now 2 more 
🖕🏿
copy paste didn't kick in 
get ch4 

Gimme your chime sound byte

the only chime salty gets is this one
I didn’t say all that you did
Chatterbox was like:
how to calculate % deficit? i forgot it
GG C.A delayed again?
multiple enemy team % for 0.846
that's the minimun CP you need to hit to not be in deficit
else take your score, multiply by 100 then divide by enemy CP
and that's your actual deficit against that team
Welp, stayed in 4th since reset. No attempts on my life either. Free coins! 😄
begone thot.
i prefer you swap it with Maxwell tyvm
yes, thats me 
is bready good for arena?
@limber rampart did you beat mine?
You called yourself a lowly clown I didn’t say that shit!
Look at her skill, I guess she is okay for attacking when you use her with Mast Maid. 
Really want CS roll though...
but where's your Crow 
She is still in advising season.
i'm so confused reading that skill
so in other word what she does is similar to sbs right?
Her skill hit all so I guess can't be taunt.
Bready should be meta if Mast maid was clip RL....
Scarlet+Rossanna team would also be better in that way...
active every 3 full charge but reduced cs

That's her first effect. We use the 2nd effect more.
First effect need to be used with S.Rossana so PvE only
@limber rampart if you beat mine, can you try to attack the no.2 guy? I had so many attempt to do it but it gave me errors, but I can attack the 1st guy just fine
oh hello my opponent 
youre in my alt's bracket.
Hello, I usually am somewhere between 3-6 in my sp arena but would like to try and be 3-4 this season now. Could I have some assistance with some defense teams, I'm assuming this part of my box covers pvp units. I'm always confused who to use as dps on the teams, right now I've used a sclaret team, a cindy team, and an emilia team, but not sure if that's best
ignore me or @wooden vapor
This has been my current defense but it does not seem to work at all lol
wow bronze ppl get discriminated
remember when you told me not to sr0
@tropic summit MY ALT GOT JACKAL TIME TO USE SELECTOR ON BISCUIT?
or rouge hmm
bro im no.6 now 
i think i will stay in top 6 and will not participate in champion arena
good luck bro
I have to choose between sr and pvp
Unknown ca rewards still?

my 1st team and SBS team is beatable, just give up on my cindy team. 
use scarlet trina/blanc on my first def.
and use your cindy team on my sbs team.
i only yap here i don't cook for people
Is there anything I can do to beat Scar and Cindy 2RL team without Noah ? Missing her making me feel so hopeless
doesn't affect me
yes, only frame reward visible atm
Bay can work for a 2RL scar no?
Time to go into secluded mountains
cindy on P1 def? 
dist always gets taunt
yeah but she is uninvested Sadge
bc there's a primary target, which can be taunted
Blanc indom

am betting on you, pls don't throw sir 
you won't even be in the same bracket as him lol
ik 
But her wording say she hit all though instead of a target then distributes it to others ..

i will bet against keripo, i want the 2nd frame for losing the bets
dist always has a primary target where the dmg is calced
afaik all of them can be taunted
Don't put Cindy p1 that is free win for enemy
Or p2 for that matter
Even Quench Nuke?

idk she wins there on attack so I just copied it over to def 😂
yummy yummy burst gen
but it said affect all enemies
not sure about qeq, there's some weirdness there, and idk how qeq decides who primary is
God i almost said np gen from fgo 
Guys, does anyone knows what it means the new icons of hearts under the sign of Burst of each Nikke? I am confused on how my opponent Cinderella has purple heart with black background and mine purple with white, and jackal's opponent is purple heart and my own jackal is blue 🤔
dist calcs dmg from a primary target, then splits that calced dmg to all other enemies
Doll levels and if they're R/SR
on attacking its fine, but def, you just give your opponent extra burst gen
so from that 2xx% divided by 5?
on attack also not fine unless you are 100% sure your opponent has no RL on the team you're attacking which is very unlikely
it's super low then
yea its unlikely 
bready wont work in pvp dont cope guys
time to save up for siren ig
:))))) i dont have noah or biscuit and my cindy just a nuke team but ur blanc indom always buff sbs so last 10s ur sbs will clear all do u want to see?
Is there any datamine for CA rewards ?


oh icic ty
it probably just works out for me on atk from cp diff but I'll make sure to stop doing that now lol
qeq could get immuned even when she shouldn't iirc, or at least she did
forgot the details, but it's very wonky and made her unreliable for pvp nuke even without dealing with taunting defender biscuit
idk if they fixed that
So Tia/Moran + Biscuit could block Quency right? 
Oh yes I see that now, it matches! Thank you!
yeah if they get the taunt before qeq nukes
u used scarlet against my sbs ofc my sbs will get indom from my blanc,
you can try moran if have her built
Anyone tested this?
Now where to find a quency in my bracket.
datamine stuff are ilegal here sir, be mind 
thats great tbh
but you can also kinda guess without it
jeez my bracket is sweat maxxing, all of their dolls are purple
who in the right mind use un-treasured Helm & Laplace in SPA 
oh... another victim 
Blue doll Trina, time to LapT it. 
they didnt know 🤣
biscuit, screw rouge, surely a PvE main like you can understand prioritize biscuit over rou- wait what 
am low on blue case, am tempted to SR0 some of my pvp units 

I think this is when i have to choose acc focus
wait nvm, it was a beneficial bug
white pink is sr 1-14
white blue is r 1-14
black pink is sr15
black blue is r15
orange is treasured

Depending on the format, I actually might end up giving CEO-kun the rank 1 title. He cares a lot about rankings (Chinese pride thing), I don't care so much as long as top 10 is all Scarlet members
then again... would it really matter? it's just your alt, might aswell go pvp into it
not sure if it was ever resolved tho
Ill wait till i see ca rewards
Also my alt is fighting the ch3 dia 1 game, gotta watch 2 acc to get ca 
keripo, did the qeq weirdness get fixed?
It has no helmT 
i always used lap+'s beam against any rosanna

there's time... 
Could happen to bready too then.
I recognize your name that’s a cyberpunk weapon
Well ill save box till ik the ca rewards and continue investing krak comp to speedrun s6 
not sure bready has the dmg output to make use of it even if it's consistently bugged for her
hmm that T2 is your main thing to fix
Bready has -50% cs no? 
i need dupes
You mean using Scarlet as their Avatar? 
You would need to go and convince everyone then...
are you running noise linked with jackal in T3 btw?
Its 20 now
oh? thats not bad ig.
there's a better nekomata 

Man hell nah she does not look good😭
I'm talking about my guild, Scarlet. We had that name long before Nikke even existed lol
hooray
did you login in time? 
only took 2x gemming C2 for him to throw in the towel
Delete this
Wtf is qeq lol
that also gets a pass 🤔
No. 
2 minutes till reset
quency
wasn't there the bug where her burst sometimes didn't get immuned by taunting defender + biscuit
It's legit an Anime character. 
Dunno, I never used Quency, multiplier too low
what's she good with? my 8/8/8 has been benched for the longest time because i just CP gap t3
bro really called nekomata from SMT/Persona series not look good 
um...... fire?
@tropic summit tysm
i will pay for this in the future, but that's a problem for future me
all you gotta know is that dist nukes in pvp are just regular nukes but with added weakness of getting ruined by taunting defender + biscuit , or lowest def defender + biscuit
wow so weak, they should be beating you 
also smt/persona mentioned 
indeed, the future you will be in the future anyway 
oh and divide their multiplier by 5 to roughly translate it to normal nuke
back to the bench she goes
She is good with feeding Jackal 1.5 times a MG does. And doesn't need wind up time.
finally defended agains this guy

just let bread be a skip i need to stock up after that damn collab 
they were pretty generous with compensation gems tho
I have 240 pulls left to use. 

every last banner has been between 80-100 pulls per nikke
unbricking time 

RNG is utter sh**
oh shoot we already reset
if only 
That's referring to noise's attack right? It is the 2nd highest attack after Scarlet's, so I think yes?
You may want to make a new account if you wanted to play CA.
yeah that's good then, you running that team correctly
your main issue is just T2 then
wen co op chips Shift Up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CA cant stop me 
wait wha

he's actually not wrong, you're bricked out of challanger 
is it rank entry only?
Common 25% deficit without biscuit.
Or even Rossanna.
using stall sanis ?
Top 4
You don't stall that kind of deficit... You want a buffed up nuke quickly.
could consider this
The main issue of T2 is having cindy in p1, which provides enemy 1.75x burst gen in their favour, you're literally helping them
I'd also suggest replacing anis with trina and bursting with trina as that can raise your cindy nuke dmg
the proposed team removes that cindy issue and moves anis in a safe spot (p4)
that was buffed nuke though
remember to throw her and anchor in your lists fellas
my dmg deal no more that 25% his team hp
You bursted with RH and she ded asap lol ..
ofc I get sniped in SPA when I'm not around before daily reset 
what comes around goes around 
what, I didn't snipe anyone
no, i burst with maidpriv
check the skill activation on the left
also everyone go upvote this #1354909209870733464 message
Okay I saw it. But revived M.Privaty burst without any buff.

well maybe only 1buff from xanne
No, not even AtK buff from Anne counted.

as i said, what comes around goes around... just as you sniped before people will snipe you back
across seasons because ppl don't forget 
eh different order of things
well i'm sure you're smart enough to understand what i mean, TL;DR as you can snipe, others can too
you're such a downer 

arena is a jungle 
Oh Interesting, thank you. I'll try that and work on Trina. I didn't know rrh could be used well in pvp. Also I recently started building my Moran because someone had told me she could go well with s anis and biscuit since s anis is built for pve anyways. Do you think they might be worth it to keep building and use somewhere?
RRH is more of a copium option there to not tank CP, because trina would kill your team CP overall, until invested
as it's 2RL RRH doesn't have time to feed much, so it's still within acceptable
Yeah there's a huge cp falloff after my top pve units lol
I was finally able to win against someone in SP arena...and I then learned that they haven't signed into the game for 10 days. yay? 
also might wanna rotate them this way now that i look at it
rumani cind rrh anis helmT
this way we ensure cindy is B3, as rrh would be promoted to B3 due to another B1 in the team
Not my cup of tea
I’ll give it a read I only know the Nekomata sniper from CP
Bready's character is pretty good I like her character also (Looks at wallet) okay nvrmind
the other two famous "nekomata" are an hololive streamer and a character from ZZZ, both running cat-like features (ears and tails commonly)
bet you never expected bread to be so expensive
do they transform?
don't think they do 
they're permanently with those features
then they are not
oh but with Nekomata i just meant their name, not the actual folkore-like thingie
Big L?
no biscuit though, as long as you get to emi indom that wipes it
@tropic summit
Hi again and can you help me ?
Am i not 1rl slower?
Hi@fathom rock 
depends on whether noise is linked, they still need quite a bit of feed
tarzan actually reminding me of dr stone now, damn
oh i still have to watch the 2nd season and onward 
somehow always kept postponing it
do we have specific how Champion arena matches are played?
post or link your box
One sec
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- Champion Arena is a gameplay feature where Commanders who rank 4th or higher in the SP Arena's Point Ranking will compete against each other.
- Other Commanders can participate by Cheering for their predicted winner during that specific season and receive rewards based on their Cheer cost!
After the 3/27 update, selection for the Champion Arena participants will begin with the start of the SP Arena season. The Champion Arena (Beta Season) will start on 4/10.
Please refer in-game for the final gameplay
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Win?
Im too busy malding alt same time lol
SR15 jackal lmao
reasonable, better dmg reduction if p1
which translates in less shared damage
hmm you'll probably kill helmT and SBS before they can kill your noah stalling with biscuit
but how final gampley looks? There is no info in game because ch A starts in 2 weeks
Epic, I don't have to participate
2 ten pulls 2 SSRs
yeah partecipation requirements aren't exactly friendly
Here
guess i can get started on quiry stall team
was it @umbral belfry who has quiry 10/10/10 
wait i'm #2 on the point ranking somehow 
whales arent loggin in
@calm gull mission completed im going to sleep 
Laplace 72k d wife 54k marciana 48k
Oh nice, the UI changes actually helps in PvP you can see which units have dolls.
oh nice 
you can attack the 2nd guy huh.
so its top 4 this season
Any suggestions? Thanks!

hmm can you check scarlet, laplace, RRH and laplace atk% (atk OL included)?
This can give you a clue on what you can use with scarlet team and we can raise CP a bit on scarlet team
dark rail has appeared again... gonna get spicy again tonight
wow cindy actually wanted to live 🤔
still didn't last post nuke dmg anyway
i cant attack 1st guy sth error wtf
it makes you go to the home screen right?
im curious how CA is going to work if 1 or more of the top 4 rankers in a bracket haven't signed 10+ days
yeh
no one want to test the new def
yea, same with me to the 2nd guy
wonder if its intended that they gonna fix it during next patch cuz they cant make it
his dark phase, everyone run 
dmn is that called hard counter? 💦
idk, a bug or smthg
doublecheck CP for T2, ensure you're less than 15,4% deficit
I think I fought this before and lost. Unsure.
Scarlet:7/7/7 skills 11.81 atk on ol gears
Laplace:7/4/7 9 atk ol
Rrh:10/10/10 30.51 atk ol
hmm scarlet and laplace are awfully close, can you check atk stat on both?
777 scar 747 la
not me
the earlier crowd then
Building quiry over my mains 
I got 7.59% atk on scarlet rn but wdym by checking atk stat? You mean SR dolls?
click on the nikke and check the flat atk she has
we need to know the atk to ensure she can run laplace with her
right now link with jackal would go to RRH and scarlet, i want to know if we can add laplace or not
Scarlet 82.312
Laplace 77.967
ok then we can run laplace
quantum cube on laplace and jackal for T2
helm needs to be treasured, s1 lvl 10, stage 2
deficit for T2 needs to be below 15,4%
Btw i did said i got atk on scarlet but i rerolled stats that had crit dmg and hit rate,i dont remember their percentaces but she did drop a bit of cp was that a bad thing?
you should get scarlet atk%, elem atk% and ammo
Helm is fully maxed out her fav item and her skills are 10/7/7
oke
I locked the atk and got max ammo but i ran out of rocks
dumped 150 normal tickets after standard pool update, still no scar and redhood
is bready any good in pvp? didn't really pay attention to her skills
I pulled cus cute
aw
at the time being, early analysis she can be skipped for pvp, potential for water pve
How much did you spent on her
1 multi
she's a dogwater version of sbs in pvp
i doubt she'll find any use
At least she looks good,i got on first multi too
tomorrow 
I did not invest on her at all but should i do her skills 4/4/4?

Jin from Tekken 
Other teams because this is a slaughtering
now here you're dead
Yeah i just wanted to send enemy comps
Btw thank god i didnt face that dude stall comp. His moran has sr15 he 100% invested
even on deficit
hmmmmmmmmm
He prolly has sr15 nero too 
I woulda got cooked
single buff emi might be pushing it too
I changed the cubes and stuff so now what should i do
run the match if you're set
record it if you can so we can see if something goes wrong
I meant team what teams should i do
Pls calc with 21% emi, should be 2.5rl and therefore i stand a chance?
you've quantum 7 right?
Yea

Sbs wont get rossed?
@tropic summit It worked ty but i need you for a second time
I cam run xmaid instead
right good point, we don't know their invest
i don't think at your synch they've a very well invested ross but not worth taking the risk
with xmaiden you're safe regardless
Thanks a lot!
Sr15 moran 💀
Lowkey wanna get bready to mlb for the background burst but also 

I must stay patient
give her a SR0 doll instead 


Uhh helmT steal link
who's higher between the 2
oh no 
The first one is 5. and the second one is 6.
go for ch5
2.5rl not work? 
hmmmmmmmmm
Okay,with the same deck?
risky but yolo?
no i'm looking now
true, i still remember that wild RRH 
run these

is it worth spending resources on chars like moran, noise, Jackal etc? i usually focus on solo raid but i would like place top 4
all considered though... 94% is pretty high and just a tiny bit of feed needed 
Lemme do math rq
@tropic summit ty again
ill be back tomorrow
Noah is 2 hit
Anis is 2 hit
Cindy is????
Helm is 2 hit
Noise is 2 hit
Probably only 1 jack proc?
Not 2rl yet
hold on, show me your defense teams
oh right the app now calculates that tho
lemme see
Pls dont hurt me
if i'm doing it right, you're 94% and earning 7% within 2RL, means you're well past 100% to 2RL
should be promoted to 2RL
record and let's see 🤔
im gonna kill you.
we better fix these teams or opponents gonna have easy time against you 
Yeah i always drop down to 20
.....
ahahahahah so close 
also didn't get promoted to 2RL afterall
were you in deficit btw?
run these teams on defense
raise CP on your rumani, noise, centi, jackal, blanc, biscuit
Okay
No
damn just pure stat/core difference then 
if you have the mats to spend, noise and jackal should 4/4/4 min
what's emi burst skill lvl and atk% OL?
7, 11.81 + 6.88
Not the best 
hmm oki that probably would help quite a bit
but aside from mats, need to OL them. do you have enough gear to do that too
multipliers are pretty huge past lvl 7
should prolly aim for burst lvl 9
adding 2 lines of atk% and you're gold
Is there a other way for noise,i dont really wanna build her
noise is one of the pvp core units... the later you build her the worse for yourself

wow. time to massacrate that cindy next time 
I also accidentally lost my 21 cs for this
yeah true
I dont really have space on syncro and im saving for aniv should i replace her with rosanna
@tropic summit
Whatcha think? Eventually I'll switch sbs for cindy for my main rookie team but 
but uh hold on... where do you even see noise here?
Hwr cp shot up to 107k 
No where,you said it via text
yep quite decent, i seem to remember emi on burst lvl 9 or above with at least 2 atk% is lethal regardless
Its rookie just test what you wanna test 
That comp is easy to counter with noah biscu tho
yeah that's a strong rookie
any non pvper will be peeled off
Makes sense
one day my cindy cp will be near sbs's level 
I have nerfed my sr for this 
Cindy 2RL can only be countered by 2RL Noah I'm assuming? Does Bay counter cindy's burst? 
CA behind the corner surely worth it 
clearly you'll get ch4 
Should still 3% 
bay melts against multi hit nukers
And im willing to gem this season, i can actually gem rn, but im ch4

2RL cindy can be weak to 2RL indom or 2RL noah yeah
should prolly aim for ch4 and bully higher ranks when you know they're off or already used attempts
doubt you can def at those ranks anyway
just grab some margin points whenever
What about a 3RL Noah/indom?
(or 2.5?)
3RL indom is kinda weird, because of how cindy nuke works
she could be hitting blanc first killing her on spot preventing it all together
she could be hitting anyone else to change indom priority at random on opponent
or she could be hitting indom target and letting indom happen anyway if jackal linked
essentially, gacha
pvp gambling 
2.5RL noah can still catch ur 2RL cindy nuke due to nerf on snapshotting
at least part of its dmg
3RL noah may not catch ur nuke at all
time to test
hime cooking 
is what i would say, but i can't rn 
Saved 300 blue tickets and 30 sr molds. Didnt pull a single maid anchor or Trina. 
scam game
I’m sure T2 is fine but not sure about T3 @tropic summit
Cant wait for my meta pvp teams to get CP gapped by pve teams in CA for lack of cores.
is this guy crazy? RH in p2 and bursting instead of trina? 
what are those ppl smoking in your bracket 
Rocky mistake
welcome to the 🐳 jungle
Think this guy just changes his teams slightly and not really thinking about what would happens
Would you guys prefer using 2RL Cindy or 2RL SBS with Blanc for defense?
so what is a good pvp team which involves Centi? I got them and heard they are used in pvp
but ye looks ok i suppose, assuming ur scarlet is promoted to 2.5RL because of feed you'll kill anything minus blanc and rumani
So i just need sr15 
well any B3 pvp core unit on SR15 is worth it
Any team that needs burst regen can involve centi
depends on opponent, if they biscuit don't SBS, if they've noah your 2RL cindy is gonna hit air 
can refer to these
I am asking for a team comp for pvp, which involves the character. also i suck at team building in general
also I ask here since its pvp involved question
You gotta be more specific, send your roster and if attacking send opponent team 
@fathom rock are you gonna wait tomorrow reset to hit that cindy team again btw?
I been using this for a good while, and only reason is cause I forgot to change it out. once I had more good units much later on and a few events later.
@tropic summit 🍿
🍿
melted 
They use both biscuit and Noah in one team for defense 🙄. Maybe I’ll rotate them and see what works
oh snap rank up 
Diamond

i'm no longer blue gang 
i watched someone level up in terminally online level in real time
You can run blanc/biscuit/scar/rh/centi 
Also your cp low gotta fix that
getting closer and closer to yapper status 
I need ammo on emi 
so you're looking for a rookie team not an SP 3 defense team?
I am currently trying to fix that since I had not played in awhile. as in I only played for a few days recently
..
.....
....
Pvp brick
If you take break from game you lose pvp prospects of the account as you cant really progress in sp arena since everyone higher lvl
for rookie team based on what i can see you could run this
as Retro already mentioned, your PvP adventure is over if you took a break, as you'll be matchmade with opponents that will likely put you in deficit
essentially, this happens:
I just flash remembered something
Back in feb 2024
I took a forced 1 week break
Due to phone breaking
yep, gotta reroll
it's over Retro 
Hey im doing good 
indeed, used to be lower challanger/dia and now you're poking ch1-ch2-ch3 
they grow so fast 
Ch1 is a fever dream
💳
not as bad as my 65 levels apart, you might've a chance if you invest in pvp units 
some copium is good copium ig
ikr 
should i swap in blanc now on my pvp team? she's not fully skill maxed yet but
How did i take a week break, not buy dust cases for first 4 months and have my biggest pvp issue be scarletless 
She has no slot here team needs a revamp
HelmT phase 2?
im scared
Hey if you arent top 4 no need to be
is phase 2 skill 2?
Rookie numbers
You are a special case 
Reshuffle didnt save you?
Yea
7
he is ALWAYS there
it's gonna be beta, before being scared you should be worried it even runs in the first place 
the man is the entire pvp bracket 
congrat for diamond Rail
Now he'll be getting railed even more
thanks, mixed feelings about it, as it's a reminder of how much i've needlessly yapped 
Just like our lives
Meaningless

aint looking forward to it considering my helm is still in the mud
so i should stop building hr up then?
post your box and we can see what teams can be arranged
remove nikke from the team and filter by strength
i've a fear that with CA coming i'll be yapping even harder
if ppl start asking 5 teams... 
sure thing
my resilience cube is at 8, I'm building it up but out of the like..currency to get the batteries
Union chips

yea
Hi, I'm downloading patch

About to see when I got sniped
Man, not even level 400 yet 
@grave trail
Agh, I think Rosanna won't solve my defense then
can still try on copium
although don't have expectations, as you're cut off mostly
Chainsaw man collab people should be 500 synch already
Are you sure you completed campaign?
give her ammo 
10 ammo + lvl 7 bastion minimum (13 ammo total)
Who?
Of course
there you have your first problem
emilia
scarlet blanc rh laplace jackal
centi cind helmt noir noise
crown alice drake biscuit liter (CP pad team)
cubes
quantum on jackal, centi, noir
vigor on noise, blanc, biscuit
any other nikke run highest lvl cube
Second is not buying event attempts when hard mode for respective event is up, it allows you to farm core dust cases
10 ammo huh?
The daily 5
When hard mode
Uh huh
cindy p2 
autobattle them
wtf SR15 jackal blanc noir??
3 B3, no other option 
you can just do noise centi
Is blanc, sanis,xmaid, anis, noise a decent 3RL team?
if enemy is strong enough to kill noise in 2RL, they are strong enough to kill centi 2RL with 3
mmm i spose i will just go at campaign then. there's..37 chapters?
you should be more concerned about single B2 being p1 
well yes that too
Noise might die
Talking from experience
if noise might die, centi will definitely die
a good noise on the other hand 
good times tanking rosanna nuke 
C5 gud?👀
There's good and bad news
well you were not gonna defend against vlad anyway
Bad: he reclaimed before reset
Good: I defended against patch
isn't he whalerino
20 more levels than F2P so yes
hmm dolphinerino
So 40 levels more than me
He attacked one hour before reset
best I can do is snipe
Thanks for the tips - two ppl that beat me yesterday already lost to the def today. I adjusted a little because my helm isn't max skills yet, so I made trina stronger and used my laplace to get to 2rl. Seems to work?
in a scale of 1-10 how screwed and cooked I am?
just switch sbs and redhood position in team 1
then you win 1 and 3
so i guess not that cooked?
if ur noah is able to survive 2RL without help in team 3, can move biscuit to a campaign team to beat team 2 for 3-0
biscuit defender cindy is my go to against dumb campaign teams
ah I somehow changed sbs and redhood pos by accident
would anyone make me a temporary team build for sp arena?
post your reviewed teams so i can get a full picture
looks doable to be honest
is that all you've? nothing else below?
below
nah their cindy is cracked, solo my the entire team
that's not good noise, that's just bad rosa 
bad link management
someone else had said dont put cindy p2 either, but you had her p2 - meant to double check that too
looks good, you fixed T2
CP doesn't tank too much with rumani and trina so that works out
anyone? 
i'm looking at them atm, it's just kinda hopeless
send the whole units seems liek you got more down below
i'm pondering if just running 2 cp pad and 1 half decent team or 3 cp pads
the answer is stack cp while keeping semblence of passable comp with jackal on one team, and biscuit on another
current pos is
R1 > liter-biscuit-asuka-privaty-diesel
R2 > doro-naga-alice-asukaw-phantom
R3 > quency>flora>noir>rupee>jackal
this is the another unit @calm gull
looking soon
aight
QEQ naga alice noir jackal
anis liter privaty biscuit tia
asuka asuka:willie crown phantom doro
damn, you really analyze that for me
im very thankful 
hmm i see might wanna take a different approach, post your box so i've the full picture
aight doing OC rn
thanks @tropic summit
already putting them to good use uh
another, thanks!
@tropic summit #pvp-arena message
damn this guy gonna be challanger soon 
jellyfish climbing rank 
its really tight going into challenger right now...
gonna need actual meta teams to stay up there
we can check enemy dolls 
yep
can you show me CP of this new T2 against their campaign team?
if it's below 20-22% deficit might be doable
only need to kill p1 and p2 
crown?
brother, I am crownless
your teams are on the left
oh
enemy team on the right
indeed, can trade better
lemme spend 100 gems real quick
oh oof gotta gem it 
looks like ch9 isn't past 160 wall, you've a chance
they probably have 1 half baked team and a silly team
still trying to climb
This is my drunk scarlet OL, assuming i pair her with Trina in pvp should i force 1-2 max ammo lines?
if you bursting with trina scarlet won't even need ammo, she'll be going all in, either kill or be killed
if you're running indom scarlet, then ammo does come into play
indom?
example of indom (SBS instead of scarlet, but you'll understand)
just got helm, any good for pvp? @tropic summit
yeah... thing is you gotta treasure her, that's... gonna take a while 
@tropic summit bro I am rolling on the floor laughing my ass off, cindy team deals 1 damage 
ahh okayy..
i see, so 4x ele 4x atk is fine for her?
did you went in already? i just wanted to confirm CP first 
i still have tons of unit to OL
question is, what's treasure, and how am i gonna do it?
ask that in question chat, they've probably a guide around 
then OL the others, 25% atk is decent already
as you're not past lvl 160 wall yet, your best bet is to first focus on campaign team anyway
yeah hence why i wanted to see CP first 
that looks like well above 30% deficit
thanks, was afraid her atk become less if no max ammo line
yeap
is helmT with crown, correct?
I cant beat this no.1 guy on my rookie arena either,
since they also cp pad
oh you'll want a good B3 indom there
right
SBS cant stand longer
that team is also 4RL, so allows you to run crown 🤔
oh right
we can stick alice for extra CP and still remain 3RL
RH will be going B1 and B3 on p5 then p4 finally cindy
SBS and RH are likely linked with jackal so those 3 will die first
doublecheck CP this time tho before you suicide into penalty 
oh wait, its my last day to login, then 8th April 
oh? going somewhere?
parent's homevillage for Eid by ship, over there also no internet connection 
cut off from the world 
then again at least you get to disconnect and enjoy yourself
its nice tbh
For Emilia 21%, should I just toss resi on her? since my resi cube is going to be lvl 15 once UR rewards are given out.
also...this new system for cubes is amazing. separating cube assignments between PvE and PvP is so nice.
whaaaa, that's awesome
anything that gives her extra ammo or faster reload works, as in case you don't wipe with nuke, you're trying to wipe post nuke with her AoE autos
thanks for pointing that out. i probably wouldn't have noticed it for a while, lol
Yeah, was assigning cubes and saw "battle" and "arena" under the menu and was just ???? lol
Indom scarlet beats trina scarlet if they are both 2RL right?
you don't mirror scarlet
i can see why this patch had complications ; they did added a lot of QoL stuff
Does it become RNG? If both scarlet team is 2RL?
yes it's pure gacha
if both teams actually 2rl and neither scar dies or gets sniped, blanc should win
but main problem is actually both being 2rl
you're feeding them 2x
depending on blanc investiment there's a chance she dies to counters aswell
s2 can trigger hard or poorly
just run a safe 2RL team that can survive or block nuke
generally involves noah 2RL or bay 2RL in p4
or tank
example of safe team against indom scar (works obviously against glass cannon variant, trina aswell)
you can tank
I wouldn't attempt tank unless last resort
you dunno how hard they nuke for, and if crit, it's over for you anyway
yeah i've seen noise 2RL surviving barely, but i also wouldn't take chances 
it's fun stuff you can try in rookie if anything
if you wanna tank more reliably at least 2rl noise anchor with a b3 that kills them fast
at that point just do 2rl noise bay
oh the noise anchor idea is good 
we playing gacha, we all are chancers
No
despacito
Rail purple
Suave suavecito
Railtracer you got a new colour? 
I wanna check my opponent's dolls but I'm stuck in C1 and they no longer attack me.
gonna open the three I have rn for three belortas 
belortas will haunt us all 
Gold mold 4/10
Purple mold 2/10
i can check their rookie team, which they carbon copied from my defense btw 
max core max doll jackal and noah
. max core noise too
and then theres this guy who also copied my comp but no investments. 
Finally got Noah! Need rookie and sp teams. Sorry for scuff
was the new champion arena supposed to start today or was it delayed for 2 weeks intentionally?
due to internal issues?
It was not supposed to start today and it was not delayed.
I mean, it was delayed in the past, but technically we have CA now.
The qualifiers for it have already started (meaning just participating in SPA)
nice. so are only the top performers in special arena going to show up in champion arena?
Yeah, top 4 in each SPA group.
ah, not just in your current bracket but the whole range of servers? damn
right I'm ready for pvp now
I mean, your current SPA group. The people you're currently fighting against.
But yes, that is more than just your server. Always has been.
Anyways, what do you guys think about the new Arena-only cube loadouts?
I assume these are for all the PvP types?
wdym new arena cube?
Could probably use better cubes on weaker characters now without it being a pain every time you want to do PvE content?
I thought the new cube is parts damage + cube no?
You can choose a different cube for each character for PvE and PvP.
if you mean by that, yeah
I assume that means you effectively double the amount of characters a cube can be on, as long as those characters are used in different game modes.
Like, Rumani wasn't getting my best cube before.
But they could be now, aye?
Quantumn
Okay, bad example, you're right.
Rumani used it pvp only
you can take Helm(T) as an example
resilience for PvE, Quantumn/Adjudant for PvP
Well, if she's not in a team where the extra 0.5% burst gen matters, I can now use Resil / Bastion on her for CP, without taking it off anyone who needs it more.
resilience for cp padding, sure.
for burst gen units you either want quantumn or adj
yea I use tempering on rumani, shes in 2 RL team 
if you dont need that extra gen from quantum can pick another cube
Scar trina against blanc team
As long as it's 2rl it should be enough to kill before indom
i feel like they will burst fast enough tho
or should i replace viper with rumani or something
cindy vs blanc is rng, can be not in your favor
t3 wins
t1 if you're like 1rl slower wins
t2 you lose
I don't like the idea of them showing too much on hand when CA is around the corner, its like telling people this is a bluff etc... when people put threatening comps, its good to have a bluff once awhile
oh damn they show the doll states now for opponents
I think that was better left hidden as well
I totally agree
I hadn't even noticed but I am C1 so I can't see opponents in SPA
just like SR they reveal comps now they reveal these tiny bits of strats
they want people to be competitive but they making stuff that is anti comeptition

yeah I think part of strategy was hidden way you had your units built, and even dolls was part of that strategically
now we can see when an opponent has a tank with a poor doll, or dps without maxed doll etc
CA is doa now
or p5 is more vulnerable or w/e
Like using Helm without treasure. 
yeah that too

honestly the bluff aspect was part of how SPA worked
I can see this guy hasn't max fav item Helm yet for example

just a rookie match that comp is pretty bad but I can't show SPA ones 🙂
Ppl starting to wake up on pvp 
I mean you can always expect a helm in pvp to be treasured
yeah I see a lot of action in my bracket atm
main use case imo is to see if splash killing p2 is doable, and whether rosa snipe has good odds or not
yeah just think it's better before, now we can learn what stats our opponents have and what team looks weaker not just on CP but on dolls/investment
which one of these would be the better defense team?
Either looks fine

any recommendations for a new defense? 
#pvp-arena message
buy more core dust
make chocolate
Purposely stop at phase 2 to trick you

If actually same speed, drunk scarlet most the time, provide she doesn't reload when Indom ended
Lmao, fail everything
cindy p1 
Can't be helped if you wanted to burst with Cindy in that team she needed to be P1. 
alas
This I'm not sure. Whoever hit right at Indom ended win, it could be the slower one
he could be p2
I tought I was going to smash 
bet on the level 900 for 1 season, then bet on the level 500 the next season, easy frames
I wonder if you cheer once and fail then stop and don't cheer anymore, will you get the failing frame? 
do it for science 

you missed the point but I wasn't expecting much from you 
@keen vapor
Your 🧱 friend thinks he could overcome the CP and level diff.

My non-whale CN guy who was same level tier as me now got hit out of c4 though...
Dude only log in once a day...
sure 

200 gems for this with 110 gem refund. Not that bad. 
Started out with all 3 stars below.
I know that cinderlla p1 is bad but what about p2?
Bad but 66% less.
what the hard counter to this team/rookie arena?
so only p3-p4 is the safest position for cinderella
Any idea?
emilia nuke
emilia nuke
P5 as well
non indom and noah, I default to emilia nuke
Just Emi it. 
noise sr15 
didnt she get attack from the first shot from all the weapons except RL?
didnt she get attacked by the first shot from all the weapons except RL?
I don't get your question. At p5 she will get hit by SR when you defense or SG when she attack. But her decoy can tank all that. And she doesn't give extra burst gen for them
War has begun 
fight back 
sorry I get it now, she didnt get first shot from RL so her decoy is bad against splash damage from RL
Godspeed 
Have they still not told us the CA rewards?
Likely just frames tbh
You get rid of your sanity for free :D
My attack on the whale today failed miserably... Only 3% battery left but I made huge mistake ....
2rl Noah SBS team against his 2rl Emi...
2RL Emi team against his 2rl Noah... But p1 DKW without linked so Indom on her. 
And 20% deficited Scar Trina. 
First time I lost this badly in 2 months.
why you C3
Because my whale hit me down. 
Become the whale 💳
i wanna be the whale
Guess I have to go back to sniping him near reset today. 
the guy who sniped me back at ch1 suddenly got 321 after maintenance and wild trina appeared 
It's just Echo opened his boxes. 
I was highest campaign pusher in my bracket for a while and even if I open all boxes I'm still only 310, ch1 is 321 and ch4 is 341 
ch1 suddenly tryharding now with CA, his bad pad teams got replaced by 2 2RL and 1 3RL team 
Guess you pushed campaign but didn't buy event retries, gem claim and reroll dispatch. 
I literally did everything optimally regarding event shops etc
they just buy core dust simple as that
From the beginning?
yes
but did you buy daily cores 
reroll or keep playing 
reroll until you get crown
Nah not even monthly core dust 





