pvp-arena

[rich quail]

I guess it’s a new character then

[calm gull]

but shes tetra for sure

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsey-cooking-gif-20155450

[keen vapor]

She's either meta or she's not

[quick lake]

I hope we can skip her. But she seems cute

[runic spear]

what's a good Rookie Defense using T Helm

[quick lake]

Scar Trina THelm flex Jackal

Scar Blanc RH THelm Jackal

[runic spear]

Scar?

Scarlet?

[quick lake]

Scarlet yes

[runic spear]

in that order?

[quick lake]

Yes

[runic spear]

alright

[quick lake]

Can use any one of the teams here
#pvp-arena message

[runic spear]

alright cool

realizing some of my Scarlet lines are shit, and it hurts

[covert lintel]

another kisama char?

[unique mountain]

Thats echo trademark vid , you need to pay him royalties to post that

[keen vapor]

I took the vid from another one, Ozone iirc

When I'm going to see Ozonefruit again

[keen vapor]

Imagine we cannot and need to invest once again

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Maybe Shift Up is releasing meta units to make whales buy skill mats and recover from bad performing collab

Tetra is Meta

[umbral crown]

Eva collab zzzz

[keen vapor]

Meta so SU profits CA will be whale territory once again

[umbral crown]

In 2035?

[keen vapor]

Few days

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Anne gaming is over?

[umbral crown]

Si

[keen vapor]

You'll MLB her?

[umbral crown]

Nope, no resources for that

Just 1 copy

[keen vapor]

You would if Winter Rupee was meta

[umbral crown]

Probably

[keen vapor]

[rich quail]

2035 will be GLORIOUS

We’ll have flying cars

teleportation stations

AI-powered robots that behave much closer to humans like that game “Detroit: Become Human”

And of course, CA will finally be out in March of that year

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

And EOS will be announced April 2035, which will close in May 2035

TRUST

[swift mango]

Do we know what's next banner already?

Is it half anniversary? Or another filler?

[covert lintel]

filler ig

[swift mango]

Could be the free half anniversary unit.

[covert lintel]

maybe

[rich quail]

People saying upcoming event is the spacer event before 1/2 anni

So this upcoming unit from the teaser pic is most likely a new filler unit that is regular SSR recruitment

But we’ll find out soon enough

[covert lintel]

i hope they release it soon so i can decide whether i goldtix trina or not

[rich quail]

We’ll hopefully find out the info about skills the days before Trina’s event finishes

But if you have invested Scarlet it’s prolly a good idea to get Trina before you are at the mercy of copium wishlist.

[covert lintel]

i have copium missilis mold

around 250

[rich quail]

Even better copium ammo

I have 533 Hi-Quality Molds

Waiting for Trina and Maid Anchor to hit wishlist

[swift mango]

Same.

[upper grove]

please be filler SU, I need a break

still have no trina, 20 pulls and a dream after next SP rewards

[swift mango]

If good Arena niche, will pull, not know when to build.

My ReiT and Trina is still not built. No skill book for them anyway, Sr5 though.

[covert lintel]

even skill book need a break or reset skill

[upper grove]

no resources for anything

my scarlet still 7/5/7

[umbral crown]

Elegg cooking

[pale knoll]

On the bench surely

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

On the bed.

[upper grove]

investing in both campaign, SR and pvp units too much

[umbral crown]

Now i wonder why i pulled ReT when im not gonna use her

120 pulls wasted

[rich quail]

@covert lintel I miscalculated

It’s very possible there will be two events at two weeks length for each event

Because 1/2 anni would need to be starting near early May

[swift mango]

My later burst skill books will be for her. While normal skill book will be for Trina.

Now that I 101010 helmT

And 101010 RH as well.

101010 Crown and 101010 Cindy.

[rich quail]

I’m glad I got ReiT

But then Trina came out

[swift mango]

101010 DKW that may change to 101010 Rapipi if skill reset.

Feel like I would still get more use out of DKW 101010 for Arena though

Oh well, a sacrifice that must be made for more campaign....

[upper grove]

and then half anni unit

[keen vapor]

Where's Aoi Besti

[swift mango]

Unless she is mega needed for campaign or Arena she would be just there. 555 like the rest of core SR units.

[rich quail]

Aoi Besti is preoccupied

[upper grove]

broken support like crown or broken water dps pilgrim

[keen vapor]

Uso-da!

[covert lintel]

same

[pale knoll]

In ca

[keen vapor]

At least she got more use than normal Rei

[rich quail]

We didn’t know about the miracle… that is Trina

[swift mango]

Broken water dps for boss is definitely not needed.

For me at least

[swift mango]

Trina is just open up the slot for ReiT to be used.

[covert lintel]

i need water dps
so i won't be a deadweight in UR

[swift mango]

HelmT is water dps.

Ofc it's matter for lv501+ people

[covert lintel]

1 is not enough
need 2, but useful in pvp too

i'm reluctant to build xlud because she useless in pvp

[swift mango]

Just halfass build her if you are 501+ already

But ofc wait for Levi then. Currently UR is over.

[covert lintel]

4/4/4 and lv0 4OL?

[pale knoll]

10710 80%ele at least 👀

[swift mango]

Maybe lv5-7 her s1.

Ele if possible, no need reroll for high CP.

She is useless for Arena and Campaign anyway

I would build her to 755 if I was at higher level and had more skill book to spare. But no more than that.

Ofc I need to pull her first, which I won't.

They need to make her off rate in next winter banner. And others old seasonal limited unit for that matter

[tropic summit]

what in the world did you smoke this time

[swift mango]

This girl has similar decide to crow and some people vote for her in beautiful anime character in anime subreddit.

[tropic summit]

you can't compare Nana, an oldschool classic with actually interesting buildup and personality, to that ugly disgrace of crow

it's like comparing high quality wine with dirty water

and don't give me that because i'll harder

[keen vapor]

Tests looking good
(idk what happened for that defeat, I lost connection)

[tropic summit]

diesel treasure?

[keen vapor]

no

[tropic summit]

shame on you for getting my hopes up

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/chime-nikke-goddess-of-victory-smoke-smoking-gif-10328804110751661145

[keen vapor]

What's so strange about Moran DPS

[tropic summit]

great attack team, but your problem isn't attack but defense

[keen vapor]

C8

I need to finish Trina overloads

[tropic summit]

omg it got even lower i thought you were holding ch6 what is wrong with that vlad dude

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

what is that garbage

[swift mango]

2.5 Cindy

Better than your 3rd spa team 100%

[tropic summit]

how does that survive minimun requirements? you're dead

#pvp-arena message

2RL B3 happens before 2.5RL B2

[swift mango]

Just have a c7 Cindy

[tropic summit]

ok you took the wrong pill today

i like the copium at least

[swift mango]

Gimme your 3 spa team and that's not screwed by 2 X 2rl teams.

[tropic summit]

that's the thing, not a single def can match those requirements anymore

at best you can mitigate it

[swift mango]

Then your def is also garbage

[tropic summit]

def is a lost cause unless you whaling

[tropic summit]

2.5RL won't save you at least 2RL pushes the opponent hand

[keen vapor]

C3 wake up and defeat me instantly

Pach decided to attack today

Abathur enjoys C9 as long as I'm not in a good spot

[tropic summit]

your bracket is filled of rats and honorless

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

2x 2.5 1x2rl team is better than 2x2rl team and 1 3rl team.

[tropic summit]

as long as that works in ur bracket

[covert lintel]

idk why but my 2rl cindy sometime lost to 4rl cindy like this

[tropic summit]

cuz you don't 2RL cindy against 4RL cindy

[swift mango]

CP is what make DEF works. No more no less.

[tropic summit]

thank you captain obvious, you can fly away

[swift mango]

Which you don't have .

[tropic summit]

yes i will not spend a cent on this game

[covert lintel]

so only scar guaranteed?

[keen vapor]

You guys did Ratio 50 already?

[covert lintel]

[swift mango]

You do, when they don't have biscuit.

[tropic summit]

i mean you can emilia that if you really want to

or you can out-trade with better sustain

[covert lintel]

same 4rl emi?

[tropic summit]

cindy main DPS is her nuke, as long as you deny that, you should out trade

[tropic summit]

if you wanna complicate your life that's an option

[covert lintel]

unfortunately i used blanc&noah in other team

[swift mango]

Well, you would obviously high chance lose to this team. Unless you have a HYPER buffed Cinndy.

3rl Cindy would have more chance to win than 2rl.

[tropic summit]

CA when

[swift mango]

CA come and you will still losing to whale plus older players.

[tropic summit]

not if synch locked

remove 65 levels gap and that will be kinda huge

[swift mango]

Older players has max cores, more books and more manufacturer level. Enough to 15.41 diff your lower CP teams.

[tropic summit]

doesn't matter, i'll take that over not having a chance because i'm on 20%+ cp deficit

[swift mango]

The lower the synch lock lv be

[tropic summit]

if you could fight a tiger with a bow instead of a rock you'd take the bow

[swift mango]

You will still not having a chance because 20% deficit the same.

[tropic summit]

you will not have 20% deficit

[covert lintel]

i think it's not because unbuffed cindy that i lost, but the fact her dmg is random, so if most of my cindy burst goes to that 2 annoying char then his team still can counter

[swift mango]

No, it's because Moran+Noah is invulnerable. And Cindy burst doesn't deal any dmg to Cindy if she had cover.

So you burst, Moran+Noah survive 1 hits and invulnerable. Cindy full HP. Then then burst when your Noah is down and you lose.

[swift mango]

So if your Cindy is Hyper buffed and could one shot Noah from 90% HP with one of her 10 hits, you would win.

Or if you have healers at 3rl or slower teams to out heal their team you would win.

[umbral belfry]

@tropic summit the guy that attacked and failed might have a helmt but looks like not s1 max

wonder how he lost

bc my cindy team is so weak rn 😭

[tropic summit]

might not have the knowledge yet

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

probably running silly CP teams

"hurr durr how my power is higher but me cannot win, sadge"

[umbral belfry]

my helm doll is at lv7

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

probably for the best, your first SR15 should be on ur campaign team

[umbral belfry]

well my cp is higher but hmmm

[swift mango]

Here is your 3rl but actually 2rl Cindy. Doesn't need 25% CS Emi though, 20% CS should be enough for Noah to catch 2rl wipe.

[covert lintel]

so change emi to crown then?

[umbral belfry]

emi

[tropic summit]

who the f has emi on 38%CS besides keripo

[swift mango]

Like I said, 33% is manageable. Just need a 18% Emi + Adjustant.

[tropic summit]

define your manageable

because i don't think it is as manageable as you think

how many rocks you estimating on that thing to reach 33%?

[swift mango]

My HelmT is actually 18% now.

[covert lintel]

my emi actually 33% though
just a few reset i can reach 38

[swift mango]

"a few"

[tropic summit]

do we have the honor of having the 0,1% emi 38%CS in this chat

you guys are scary

[swift mango]

We have another guy 38% on this chat beside Keripo actually... Just I don't remember the name

[forest solstice]

is Cindy good in pvp

[tropic summit]

yes she is

[tropic summit]

cindy showcase

[swift mango]

Her quirk make her either very good or very bad defending on how you use her.

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit would i win?

[forest solstice]

she showed up instead of scarlet
help me cook a team? or is she only good when attacking

[swift mango]

Yes

[covert lintel]

my emi is like this
35 if i use cs cube

[fathom rock]

Thanks, it worked indeed

[tropic summit]

29% deficit, their cindy will be hitting you for less than half her damage

CP gap too stronk

[fathom rock]

And him?

[swift mango]

This is actually 21+13+2=36%.

Good enough to use as 38% Emi in calculator.

[tropic summit]

19% deficit but no biscuit, they'll melt 🤨

[swift mango]

Equip Adjustant on her

[fathom rock]

I lost

[keen vapor]

: Liter Shocked: What?!

[tropic summit]

clutch from cindy decoy? 🤔

[forest solstice]

[fathom rock]

It took 3rl to kill crown so they bursted with naga....

They did in fact not melt

Oh well its cookie pvp

[tropic summit]

indeed cookie pvp

[fathom rock]

Glad i was able to beat pants at least

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

19% is not safe. You have no protection either.

And be 7rl team that can't burst.

[tropic summit]

i guess when you're not a whale and not on high core 19% deficit is still not safe, wish i could say the opposite

[swift mango]

They at least have Jackal to protect a little until they burst.

[quick lake]

Its 24.7% cs purely from OLs/cube

[swift mango]

Hard to say, even against high core whale, 19% deficit is still winable easily especially if they can't burst.

[tropic summit]

i dunno when i run 19% deficit with jackal i still risk dying within 1.5RL, even with jackal

[swift mango]

Jackal provide some protection again normal attack

[fathom rock]

Last time i played 16% i melted

[swift mango]

If they have LapT, SG, sure.

But your team have non of that.

[tropic summit]

as my vid above, same experience

then again there's huge gap level, core difference

probably matters more than just flat CP

[swift mango]

That team has LapT and Emi, 16% deficit ofc you will lose.

That is not even a debate.

[keen vapor]

Retro, what's your synch again

[fathom rock]

Main 369,alt 241

[tropic summit]

i mean i get the same when i fight SGs...

[fathom rock]

Bro just stalk my blabla

[tropic summit]

be it splash or SG i still get hit to death door

[keen vapor]

I only 13 level diff you

[swift mango]

Ofc SG is the same thing. Retro team has only low normal attack dps units.

[keen vapor]

I'm saving data

[fathom rock]

Should be way more you stared a good 2 months before me

[swift mango]

Jackal link could easily tank at 19% deficit

[keen vapor]

Also I like to talk to you

[tropic summit]

wow, the rizz

[keen vapor]

Ok, if I used government selector + every case it could be added another 20 but

[fathom rock]

No excuses

[tropic summit]

shouldn't you wait for the next 2 chapters in april?

[keen vapor]

I'm not trying 26-17 till I get 4th ele on RH, or I get 5 levels from idle

[keen vapor]

Exactly, I'm out of time

[tropic summit]

just sacrifice these 2-3 seasons

then you come back stronk for 4th season

and you hit that silly vlad

[keen vapor]

Or shuffle happens first

[tropic summit]

shuffle is 2 months away tho

[fathom rock]

How to bwat nero/moran/helm/rap/emi 21%

[swift mango]

What about the Chinese rounding chart? Was it scrapped?

[tropic summit]

rosanna, else 2RL s.anis

[keen vapor]

Helm 17%?

[fathom rock]

[fathom rock]

2rl sanis it is then

[tropic summit]

but uh

is that still 2RL 🤔

[swift mango]

Well just use 3rl a common scarJackal..

[tropic summit]

it isn't actually 2RL

[fathom rock]

I HAVE NO SCARLET

[tropic summit]

at best 2.5RL

[keen vapor]

Yeh, one quantum

[swift mango]

3rl Cindy then.... With enough Ele...

[tropic summit]

mhm

interesting tho... ppl running nero moran in Retro's bracket 🤔

figured it was too soon for them to have leeway to invest in those 2 expensive units

[fathom rock]

How about scar/blanc/anis/trina/jack
Just 2rl noah biscu?

[swift mango]

It's auto ded to Electric wipers anyway...

[keen vapor]

They're pros like Merry

[tropic summit]

yeah kinda strange... i wouldn't even have the resources to spare for a nero so early

[fathom rock]

The dude in 3rd place has been hunted down by me, ryu and asusana

My bracket can be an entire novel

[tropic summit]

hmmmm you wanna survive scarlet on indom there, so either noise noah sbs flex flex or 2RL noah bis helmT

[keen vapor]

Unless you're biased RH mats have been sacrificed

[swift mango]

2RL team with Trina is fine but no need for Blanc, replace her with Liter or RH instead of you wanted more buffer

[tropic summit]

that'd be one hell of a mad lad

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

Cat girls

[fathom rock]

Im facing this instead im scarletless

[tropic summit]

^ tweak as needed

[fathom rock]

Noah/centi/cindy/rumani/xmaid 2rl?

[tropic summit]

with cubes yes, care that noah needs to survive 2RL

[fathom rock]

Blud is 400 ofc she will live

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

Just use 2rl Noah with lots of healer again Scarlet. Even 2.5RL Noah+Noise+Cindy should do if Scarlet doesn't Crit and kill Cindy with just 1 buff.

For 2rl Noah either 4rl Cindy+Biscuit or 2RL Emi.

If that 2RL Noah is not with a Cindy you could even win with common 3rl god comp.

[fathom rock]

Emi/blanc/centi/drakeT/jackal beats it?

[tropic summit]

indom duel?

[fathom rock]

Vs the noah comp

[tropic summit]

you'd need a 3RL noah

[fathom rock]

Im the one using this

Would emi die from xmaid tho even if jackal

[tropic summit]

i'm missing the opponent then did you post earlier a SS?

[swift mango]

I mean this....

Will lose easily to Scarlet solo.

[fathom rock]

I changed opponents

[tropic summit]

oh that's why

[fathom rock]

I cant win vs the 400 dude ill just bully the guy above him

[tropic summit]

did you have Bay budget built?

oh but nvm it's indom scar

[fathom rock]

1/1/1 no ol build

[tropic summit]

the real question is whether that cindy team is using quantum or not

cuz if they're not, 2RL emi will hit noah shield

als you running single buff emi, but then again opponent no sustain

[fathom rock]

What about rrh indom with centi and emi for regen

[swift mango]

Record this for science sake. I want to see if your Emi having enough dmg.

[tropic summit]

hmmmmmmm

RRH gonna have to carry hard there

not sure she has enough time

well your opponent doesn't look dumb, surely he's running quantum

take the gamble and yolo

worst case scenario you find out if it's 2RL or 3RL

[fathom rock]

Cmon they have no biscuit and my rrh has 4 ele surely

[tropic summit]

i had bad experience with my RRH but she's less built than yours

maybe she can pull it off

30fps lock is kinda nerfing her output unfortunately

[fathom rock]

Real question is can i emi with her without her stealing indom

[tropic summit]

what's their atk%?

[fathom rock]

I have more fps in pvp than normal

[fathom rock]

12.52 + 13.22

[tropic summit]

against emi atk%?

[swift mango]

RRH with Emi? For what?

[fathom rock]

Steal indom not jackal

[tropic summit]

[fathom rock]

For regen

[tropic summit]

assuming opponent is 2RL anyway

[swift mango]

So you want Emi as burst gen?

[tropic summit]

as we still don't know

[fathom rock]

Im trying to figure out that but numbers too smol

[tropic summit]

[fathom rock]

My glasses arent glassing

[tropic summit]

limited by the technology of today

so RRH has more flat dmg, but what about her OLs

[swift mango]

How about just process with this? Vigor or drake ofc if she had lower HP.

[tropic summit]

emi

RRH

[cobalt token]

PVP really exposes the nature about persistence meeting hatred

[tropic summit]

i guess RRH has more than your emi 🤔

damn that's a lot of ele you've on her

[fathom rock]

I just wanna know if rrh/blanc/emi/centi/jackal here is 2rl and whether rrh indoms or not

7.27% from vigor on emi

[tropic summit]

RRH higher flat dmg + higher atk%
emi less flat dmg + less atk%

RRH is linked, emi isn't

[swift mango]

Just do a basic math and your would know....

[fathom rock]

I would but i cant even read the numbers they are too blurry

[tropic summit]

but i just posted them above

102k RRH
97k Emi

[swift mango]

It's your account

[fathom rock]

my sanity
In a comp of rrh/blanc/emi/centi/jack
Links are emi and rrh
Will emi steal indom or no

[swift mango]

Just put Emi with Vigor and RRH without and you will be fine.

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-buzz-lightyear-yes-sir-aye-aye-captain-yes-captain-gif-23922841

[fathom rock]

Thank you

[swift mango]

It's just elementary math mister MA.

[fathom rock]

I cant math when i literally cant read the numbers

[tropic summit]

barely

assuming 7.27% increase in HP from vigor on her current HP

[fathom rock]

Thanks, gonna attack

[swift mango]

It's your account.
...RRH without any cube.

[tropic summit]

record so we can find out if it's a 2RL or 3RL

[fathom rock]

Game crashed once i press battle

[tropic summit]

oh no, our evidence

[fathom rock]

I did win tho so doesnt matter

[tropic summit]

lmao

so it was a 2RL and RRH was linked, now you can

[swift mango]

You use GPT chat for elementary school math

[fathom rock]

1 more fight
Scar/trina/ross/centi/jack
Just run noah biscuit cindy 2rl?

[tropic summit]

my god can you not complain about 1 stupid thing for every single minute

[swift mango]

No

[tropic summit]

it was already part of the equation so who cares

[fathom rock]

Know what ill just stay at ch5 thanks for the help

[swift mango]

Here is my daily minutes slander. Take that!

[fathom rock]

Now i need to get my eyes checked

[swift mango]

Yes.

[tropic summit]

get a laptop already my good sir

[swift mango]

G9 :

[fathom rock]

Have to pay part of my savings to the eye doctor, time to wait longer

[tropic summit]

oof, i guess health comes first then, no problemo

[covert lintel]

will i win against 4rl cindy?

[tropic summit]

you really don't want to run the easier version with scar-trina?

or even just scar blanc rh centi jackal

the moment you kill rapunzel, they can't burst

double buff reiT would also work

alternatively could try this

[covert lintel]

like i said i use scar blanc in other team so can't

and i don't have trina yet

[covert lintel]

still can burst, moran noah cindy
i need to take out cindy

[tropic summit]

post enemy 3 lineups

maybe you don't need to scarlet that other team you thinking about

[covert lintel]

i used noah in team 2 because it's hurt so much

[shell hazel]

this guy whales a bit lots of cores

and outfits 😛

[covert lintel]

ikr
while my nikke sad

[tropic summit]

ok i can see it, is your emi higher atk% than scarlet?

[shell hazel]

if noah works on t2 I'd say biscuit t3?

but high cp

[covert lintel]

in OL? yes

base stat no

[tropic summit]

how about laplace?

[shell hazel]

it's time to pull out Soda p2

[covert lintel]

too high base atk. lap+ always get jackal link

[tropic summit]

well then use anis if you've to

[covert lintel]

i actually didn't have any trouble in team 1 or 2
what i need is third win

[tropic summit]

[covert lintel]

[tropic summit]

just go ultra stall 4RL then?

for T1

[shell hazel]

why 3rd win?

[tropic summit]

extra points in CA

Rakuen 4D chess

[covert lintel]

what team will that be?

[tropic summit]

need your box with what is leftover from the 2 teams you're already running

[covert lintel]

i think below rem don't have any OL

[tropic summit]

and what are the 2 teams you already have nikke reserved for?

so i know with what you can work with

[shell hazel]

lvl 1 quiry sac

Quiry: why must I die?
Shikikan: Your name may be similar to query but don't ask questions just stand right there

[covert lintel]

the purpose is to saved up as many good nikke

[tropic summit]

so all of these are available

[shell hazel]

is Soda available? I feel the Soda angle is more fun

[tropic summit]

it's a 4RL cindy

you need soda in p2 to ensure stun on noah

sniper team could be interesting here 🤔

[covert lintel]

i actually thought of that and tried rh burst, but in the end that moran taunt her

[tropic summit]

yeah you're going to need to kill p5 and p4

but also start with RH B1 asap

[shell hazel]

we could use poison

[tropic summit]

you tried this?

assumes pepper dies within 3RL

biscuit should be dead within 3RL, helmT should nuke whoever is highest atk, you'll then shoot from 3RL to 4RL on p4 (cindy)

[lunar dirge]

look, a target practice

[covert lintel]

yes i tried something like that but with rh burst not helm

[lunar dirge]

I shoot 2 times, first with white bullet, 2nd with Magnum. 38

[covert lintel]

afther rh kill biscuit, moran taunt her immediately

[tropic summit]

wonder who will helmT snipe on B3

probably one of those supports

if it's cindy that would be jackpot

but i doubt as a defender she has highest atk%

[swift mango]

So you are saying you will shot the MC of that manga Nana as well.

[lunar dirge]

I'm here to hate

If it looks like crow, I will shoot it

Just like zoro when he sees black people

[swift mango]

https://www.reddit.com/r/t5_2llh41/s/cCw5XWQwCu

Could come here to share your opinion as well.

[covert lintel]

it won't
probably rapun

[lunar dirge]

community not found

[swift mango]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NanaAnime/s/vLTZYika3s

Weird.

[lunar dirge]

this one is trying to send me to reddit

As I'm speaking with mentally ill

[swift mango]

Ofc it's subreddit for the series with their fans ready to flame you.

[tropic summit]

the TL;DR of this is: crow is ugly

[shell hazel]

I don't have crow yet

skip? 😄

[tropic summit]

do the opposite of wishlisting her

[wicked horizon]

Do we know if Scarlet retaliates while invulnerable?

[shell hazel]

hatelist her

[tropic summit]

un-existlist

[shell hazel]

I still need a copy for the collection 😄

[tropic summit]

questionable if worth it

you'd have sh** stuck in your nikkepedia

[shell hazel]

indeed but 1 closer to the 120 I need for the next challenge

[covert lintel]

u want this nightmare?

[shell hazel]

send it

I wonder if anyone max cored her yet

[covert lintel]

i'm sure every whaler max core her

[strange quail]

Hello guys, could you guys help me to cook a new def team ? My current team got adapted by enemies now. Thank you guys.
My Helm is TR+3, Drake TR+2

[tropic summit]

what's helmT s1 lvl

[strange quail]

10

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[strange quail]

old def team worked good for like 2 months until everyone crushing it and send me all the way to Diamond Sadge

[swift mango]

Crown treasure gonna be SSS tier, you got it.

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
noah centi cind helmT noise
alice sbs rrh drake naga

[strange quail]

old def team cooked by Blood btw

[forest solstice]

do I swap anyone here? this is rookie

[strange quail]

I don't have Noah 😦

[tropic summit]

go with this one for 24-48h if they beat it ask for another one, as you can run multiple variations with what you've got

[tropic summit]

can you get trina?

[strange quail]

I don't have her as well

[tropic summit]

we just made that team 2 days ago? not really anything new

[wise horizon]

Didn’t quite work out unfortunately.

[forest solstice]

okay noted

[wicked horizon]

Do we know if Scarlet retaliates while invulnerable?

[eager mountain]

low cp team so sacc sacc sacc sacc

[eager mountain]

yes, theres visual

[swift mango]

Other than hating, do you have any justify reason to say her appearance ugly?

She is just a slim girl in heavy metal fashion style.

Someone with that appearance could easily be a model in real life. I bet your wife/mother/daughter is uglier than her appearance wise.

[tropic summit]

here you go noahless version

[strange quail]

woah calm down

[strange quail]

Much love, will see if this one can hold, thank you kind sir

[wicked horizon]

I didn't follow the conversation, but mans did not just compare an anime character to a real life person.

[forest solstice]

sir??

[tropic summit]

In the mobile game GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE, the character Crow is predominantly viewed negatively. A Reddit discussion highlighted that approximately 90% of players harbor negative sentiments towards her

if a lot of ppl think the same, there's probably a reason

not gonna judge your personal taste, but the majority doesn't seem to think as you do

[wicked horizon]

...

[swift mango]

Hating, not thinking her appearance being ugly...

[wicked horizon]

Guys, cmon, it's not that difficult

[tropic summit]

negative sentiment doesn't limit to hating, it's dislike

be it looks, character, lore, w/e you want

[tropic summit]

no problemo

[swift mango]

Dislike doesn't synonym to ugly either

[wicked horizon]

She's portrayed as an antagonist and a terrorist, of course people hate her.

[tropic summit]

what is your point? why does it matter to you if she's ugly?

[strange quail]

are we sacrificing Centi in team 2 ? How can she survive in Slot 1

[tropic summit]

SR5 doll she can live 2RL

being iron is also a good bonus as the arena is dominated by elec code

[wicked horizon]

People's emotions toward a person also affect the way one perceives someone's attractiveness.

[valid fern]

Nah id still bang

[eager mountain]

at least defense still works against diamond

[tropic summit]

wait till trina spreads to lower ranks

the most brainless 2RL that anyone can run

[swift mango]

Well, I think we have been discussing her appearance for a few days. I said she looks creepy in the sense of "heavy meta fashion being creepy" for some people.

And you said, her appearance is ugly.

[tropic summit]

she IS ugly, yes?

[wicked horizon]

You're free to think as you like.

[covert lintel]

his point is "don't call her ugly because i can fix her" or something like that

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

But that is objectively wrong appearance wise. She is slim with good proportion. Her face is fine too. If you used different make up she could easily go on a catwalk.

[eager mountain]

oh there is 🍿
i mean sometimes it works in a way where a person is ugly when she feels ugly not looking ugly
usually the visual aspect takes major role there but sometimes its the emotional aspect that affects

[tropic summit]

did I stutter?

she did the AZX train terrorist attack (which makes the public turn against the Outer Rim and Heavenly Ascension)... tries to kill the commander who is the biggest advocate for Nikke rights... then stirs up shit with the Matis controversy to make people fear/hate Nikkes... then causes the Ark attack to make people realize why they need Nikkes..... and then tries to kill Syuen (which has no real purpose but Nikkes killing humans will make the public turn against Nikkes and discriminate against them further)....... so basically every other action she does is contradictory to fixing Nikke injustice and only makes life worse for Nikkes. So she is a giant idiot who basically sprouts nonsense and is likely killing and causing chaos because she likes having a power trip & likes killing. None of her actions help further any freedom fighter/Nikke rights type ideals, so it is dumb that she even mentions anything regarding that. Makes her character contradictory or plain idiotic while trying to act like a amazing mastermind to usher in some type of amazing new era.

TL;DR:

In short: She causes chaos by attacking the AZX train, stirring hatred against Nikkes, and trying to kill key figures like the commander who supports Nikke rights. Her actions contradict her supposed goals of helping Nikkes, only worsening their situation. She seems to enjoy the power trip and violence, with no real plan to achieve justice or freedom for Nikkes, making her seem like a contradictory and foolish character.

[eager mountain]

also dont compare animu girl to irl people
animu is where people take e cup equivlent as smol size

[tropic summit]

what's worse, in a fanservice game she's still ugly af, both personality and appearence wise

[swift mango]

Well, fashion models often need to have small breasts.

Her breast is small according to Nikke sizes

[eager mountain]

it still tilts me when mf look at a size of like blanc's and call that smol, that is at least average (in fact noticiably biggere) for western people in her size, and way above average for asian people in her size

[tropic summit]

around B or B-?

[eager mountain]

theres no padding but reverse padding , thats C or C+ for her skinny build

[tropic summit]

[kind palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006521119781691395/1242841715296043038/blancyes_1.gif

[swift mango]

Funny how Nikke are so short when you search their height. I guess mainly because Asian male are often short.

And their culture means they like shorter women :

[eager mountain]

korean male are fairly close to westerns in height

[swift mango]

Only when you looks at their celebrities.

[eager mountain]

random ones are taller then others like chinese and japanese

[swift mango]

In fact Korean aren't white, it's artificial.

Korean aren't that tall, it's artificial too.

[eager mountain]

and chinese height is highly age dependent because of ccp

tho thats man

woman difference should be bigger cuz of culture perference

[tropic summit]

bottom argument: crow is ugly, got it

[tropic summit]

show the 3 opponent teams

[tawny kestrel]

@tropic summit
Yo what up dude
I got 2 trina soo where do I add her?

[tropic summit]

what's ur current def

[tawny kestrel]

Atk and def same

[tropic summit]

change ur 3rd team with this for now

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/ride-your-wave-omurice-omelette-rice-anime-yuasa-gif-26999885

[tawny kestrel]

Ok thx ❤️

[crystal flicker]

Login 3am everyday only for pvp

[tropic summit]

worth it?

[tawny kestrel]

Do you know how i should arrange my wishlist?

[tawny kestrel]

Like an Idea from my roster

[swift mango]

Consider many household with average wealth in Korean would just easily having their children to do a surgery to increase their height by around 10cm at around 16 year old I would take it with a grain of salt.

[tropic summit]

for PVP

cinderella, scarlet black shadow, scarlet, noah, grave
biscuit, noise, rapunzel, centi

for PVE

you need to get past the wall, 5MLB, priority on that and campaign units

[eager mountain]

that would still be a smol size of the whole population so doesnt change much
at most 1 cm difference average

[tawny kestrel]

Dude i juz did my daily wish for 150 got rapi rh....

[eager mountain]

koreans are obsessed with political vengeance and appeal as always
while having the most tense gender conflict

[tropic summit]

T1 leave as is, T3 move it to T2

[swift mango]

Idk if they would count their poor people into the equation.

[eager mountain]

to consider and address sampling issues... research ur own then

[crystal flicker]

Kinda?
I just realized one of my defense team don't have B1

I'm not gonna spend gems to get C1 again lol

[swift mango]

Less so for women. So your guess of it's more so for women ain't it.

[eager mountain]

[crystal flicker]

170 just perfect as is

[swift mango]

In a money ready social where you are required to be taller or being shittier, ofc your people would be taller over time because they spending all their money for that.

[crystal flicker]

The only social pressure I like is that one doujins about social pressure

[eager mountain]

they spend about just everything for their kids to win the competition

much like urban chinese do

[swift mango]

There was that picture of a Korean average family where both parents being tall and white but their children just short and brown

[eager mountain]

and height is indeed part of the sexual measure of worthiness of their kid

[swift mango]

And their kids are their biological children, not adopted.

[eager mountain]

and their biological children gonna turn white ig

if u notice some asian make ups (usually chinese) u can tell difference in skin tone vs facial tone

[crystal flicker]

Could be the ressesive gen kicks

[eager mountain]

seems fine to them despite they should've paid more attention to their look then a random looking at them

[crystal flicker]

we're know if a and b married it'll be something like
AA AB BA BB

and so on

[eager mountain]

and theres all the gamer's war thing against DEI practice in gaming

noting korean firms like SU less associated with the western one doesnt give a f about DEI stuff

thats also just korean appearance culture practice

and those "gamers" wont know how tense the gender conflict is in korea, and its directly tied to appeal obsession
they would imagine koreans have the "harmony" they imagined the west "had"

and appeal obsession is tied to how dramatically uniquelly northern asian looks apart from pretty much any human races

[swift mango]

You could easily compare the height of South Korean and North Korean people who doesn't do heigh enhancement to their children.

Note: They are the same people. Gene wise.

[eager mountain]

their ancestor developed unique facial traits that only northern asians have, and those are extremely diff from white counterparts
but the beauty standard ofc became white-based

[eager mountain]

straving korean vs richer korean
u cant say high enhancement does all the heavy liftings to average koreans when other factors are there
japanese used to be extremely short and now they are far taller then what they used to be, and the rest is genetic diff
both gene and conditions plays a role there

[wicked horizon]

Damn, the conversation has escalated while I was gone.

[swift mango]

I heard about Japanese having their women marrying white people and bring back their children to enhance their overall height and skin color. But ofc, living conditions and exercise are as important a factor as gene.

[wicked horizon]

You guys discussing eugenics?

[eager mountain]

that would be extremely rare consider japanese is extremely culturally exclusive especially from back then

now? they dont even care about having kids

and they are still as culturally seperated from the west

anyone can be american

but no one other then japanese raisen people can be japanese

[swift mango]

Like most developed country in the west.

[eager mountain]

need to adapt to their social rules from early age to not act extremely weird and emotionally unwelcomed from their perspective

tho those rules also made them more civilized then any other part of the world at least from surface level

[wicked horizon]

I just feel like a mod's gonna come and bonk you for this discussion.
Now, I'm not gonna snitch, but uh...

[eager mountain]

pretty much, just that affects from leftover asian ancient culture push that even further

[swift mango]

Well, considering there are many half European families in Japanese manga I guess that kind of family isn't that rare.

[eager mountain]

rare enough that it wont do anything to the genetic pool

the numerial diff wont be noticble by having 1 white among 1000 japanese

[swift mango]

Well over 100-1000 generation? Not really.

[umbral belfry]

[eager mountain]

havign 1 white in 1000 japanese doesnt chance the generation diff unless population ratio changes

having 50% white gene isnt the same from 12.5% so it doesnt affact generational drift unless study find that white gene is 1000x more likely to be displayed

[swift mango]

1 white marrying, their children marrying, their children's children marrying a so on.

That practice I read was happened from before world war, not recently.

[eager mountain]

surely thats gonna turn whole japanese to white

those are easily noticed and japanese liked to write about it because thats something extremely diff and standing out for them

doesnt mean that its a practice thats not rare enough

if its in us a white married to asian who cares its common asf
in japan u get every attention from it

[swift mango]

Just part of their overall gene pool. Like European people has part of Neanderthal in their gene.

[eager mountain]

it wont change unless the half white childern have way more offsprings or the ratio of white increases

[crystal flicker]

They can fix it with marrying the half with pure JP, to make the JP as dominant gen

[swift mango]

Well, over many generations, 1 white could have their gene speard to 100 people easily then 10000.

Ofc that doesn't mean every child would get the taller gene of European.

[eager mountain]

and thus doesnt really change the average

even if so due to gene display perfence, its unnoticeable

it wont be statically relevant for contributing as main factors that affected their height average

[swift mango]

Well, if 1 in 10 Japanese is part 1/128 or 1/256 European and get the taller gene the average would change ofc.

[eager mountain]

if 10% of japanese become white

go do it then.

[wicked horizon]

What in the world are you guys even arguing about?

[swift mango]

Not really need to be pure white, just some feature.

[eager mountain]

half white is half the genetic influence

[crystal flicker]

This like breeding a crops tho

You breed sweet fruit with big fruit to get big sweet fruit

[swift mango]

Like bringing selective pig to your country and start mating with the female pigs. Later on, your country pigs meat quality would improve even that pig already death.

Not entirely as good as the selective pig but still having some qualifications

[eager mountain]

and the white pig is gonna have 1000 wifes

[swift mango]

[eager mountain]

and thus affecting the population despite only havign 1/1000 white

[eager mountain]

imma just gtg, its not rocket science

[swift mango]

There was more than 1000 half European family

[eager mountain]

and that make half of the japense half white!

ROCKET SCIENCE!

[crystal flicker]

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/mendel-laws-of-inheritance/

[wicked horizon]

What?

"I am going to just going to go"?

[swift mango]

More like 1/1024 white so they could have that little of neanderthal gene in their gene pool.

[crystal flicker]

and no, you don't marry 10+ Japanese women in Japan so it wont affects Japan's population

[swift mango]

They just needed to have that 10000 half European family to continue their bloodline overtime.

[crystal flicker]

And I have Japanese wife

[swift mango]

Are Chinese or Korean made Japanese anime girls counted?

Like Akagi from Azur Lane?

[crystal flicker]

Akagi is Japanese ship

[swift mango]

Ship-girl

[crystal flicker]

I think if it has history reference to Japan, it'll be Japanese
If it's in Japanese media without reference to real world place, it'll be Japanese
If it's made by non-Japanese and has reference to Japan, it can be Japanese (depend on the character's design sheet)
If it's made by non-Japanese and don't have reference to Japan, it'll be non-Japanese (Following the author's nationality or character's design sheet)

[swift mango]

I remember a few years ago, many Wikipedia page for ships had their main image changed into ship-girl of Azur Lane lol...

[crystal flicker]

Like you wont call USS Enterprise as Chinese just because AL is chinese game

[tawny kestrel]

Yo anyone here tryna do coop on global if so I'd appreciate if u would join #1136882973233397790

[wicked horizon]

Everyone in #pvp-arena, talking about everything other than PvP.

Can you help me figure out how to beat this guy instead?

[umbral belfry]

Alas I am not a high enough cook yet

but also what's with the mod in pvp for both

[thin perch]

What is the best/meta rookie defense team at the moment?

[wicked horizon]

CP padding

I mean, their teams are pretty bad. He doesn't seem to be much of a PvPer, but I'm 2 sync breakpoints behind for a while, and that really hurts.

[umbral crown]

Hawt waifu indeed

[wicked horizon]

There is no best, it's more of a rock-paper-scissors thing.

[umbral belfry]

I'd skip t2 personally and aim for t1 and t3 but that's the best I can offer

[wicked horizon]

Yeah, T1's easy.
T3 actually has a 3 RL burst if the Helm is treasured and invested.

[umbral belfry]

should be able to make a 3Rl team at least by skipping one team and putting some units onto that team. only potential issue is cp

[wicked horizon]

Helm alone is a 3RL team. /s

[swift mango]

What is the name is this series in English? I was curious and search but only Korean and Japanese results.

[wicked horizon]

I feel like the 2nd team is easier to go against, as there's no pressure to get a fast team.

But I still need a better team while avoiding the CP deficit, because even Cinderella bursting won't kill them at that deficit.

[umbral crown]

[sudden drift]

@swift mango or someone smarter than me.... can someone explain the whole cindy (weird aim) thing to me in the spreadsheet

[wicked horizon]

What do you want to know about it?

[sudden drift]

is it a good thing or bad?

[wicked horizon]

Oh, it's probably just a note to indicate that despite being a rocket launcher, she doesn't have the usual splash burst generation or sth.

[swift mango]

It's just Cindy could miss... She also gives little burst gen. First hit 1 RL then 3 hits every RL after....

Not very sure which one but just know that she gives very little burst gen is enough....

[sudden drift]

so i was running against a jackal scar team with 10K deficit and almost pulled out the win...

[wicked horizon]

Hence the very low burst gen.

[sudden drift]

even had cindy helm biscuit alive to deal with a single cindy... but that weird mechanic ended up having one cindy off my 3 units

would it have made a difference if i placed cindy in p1? for reference it was noah biscuitt cindy thelm rumani

[sudden drift]

ok, so no matter her placement her aim is always wonky

[swift mango]

It make the attacking team burst faster if you put Cindy at p1-2, more so on P1 than p2.

A common scarJackal team with scar+Blanc+RH+Centi+Jackal could easily be 2rl facing p1 Cindy for example.

[sudden drift]

then i simply got destroyed due to CP deficit despite wiping out 4/5 of her squad

villian was running jackal cindy biscuit tia scarlet

them 50K me 39K i didnt expect it to be remotely close

[swift mango]

If you could wipe out 4/5 of her squad you should have no problem wiping out her at well, just burst faster than her and prevent her to burst.

Cindy deals smol dmg without bursting.

[sudden drift]

but thats exactly what happened... it just seemed like her cindy was hitting and mine was just missing more shots

i can't swap out my usual AOE wiper (ein) from cindy because she'll get smoked before she can burst... might try to swap rumani with jackal next time

[swift mango]

Team 1 could probably win but team 3 need to get above stat deficit range.

Ignore team 2 and focus CP and burst gen of two teams into 1. A 3rl team with Noah+biscuit+HelmT+flex at 469k should be fine.

[sudden drift]

*usual AOE wiper against biscuit noah teams

yea my t3 is solid.

t2 got smoked with an even smaller deficit (8K) with my jackal rh ein blanc centi

noise ice maiden sanis biscuit alice. i was kinda baffled

[umbral belfry]

@tropic summit almost there

[wicked horizon]

I'm not sure I have that.
This is 20% deficit.

If Rapi survives Noir, perhaps Cinderella can wipe them.

[swift mango]

You want around 469k. 20% is possible but you may want Cindy to p5.

[sudden drift]

got the treasure mats ready?

[wicked horizon]

I can't have Cindy p5 with Helm on the team.

[swift mango]

If you want to Cindy wipe you could put HelmT to p5.

[umbral belfry]

I'll def have enough by the time it's sr15

[swift mango]

You could, with HelmT bursting

[umbral belfry]

unless somehow I'm very lucky with doll lmao

[wicked horizon]

But then why have Cinderella in the first place?
My current problem is that a RRH-buffed Cindy burst can't wipe their 2nd team.

And then they beat me after.

[swift mango]

To normal attack and tank SG plus CP pad?

[wicked horizon]

Crown would be better padding.

Helm will kill 1 enemy, I need to kill them all.

[swift mango]

Cindy doesn't need to burst to deal high normal attack dmg, she only need to enter burst 3.

[swift mango]

Your team will kill them all with normal attack when they are stuck on normal attack your invulnerable.

[wicked horizon]

It's only 3 seconds, I'll kill maybe 1 of them in that time.

[sudden drift]

thats what happend with me... got her to sr15 way too quickly and now im about 5 days away before getting that last 10 mats

[swift mango]

Biscuit is there for that and HelmT buff the whole team for that. If you don't want it then you could do whatever you want.

If Crown is better CP pad then use her.

[sudden drift]

aite thanks @swift mango ill try cooking something different for cindy team

[wicked horizon]

I just don't see how I can win a trade with 20% CP deficit, even if I have ~4+3 seconds of invulnerability on them.

[swift mango]

You have tons of buffs and full burst bonus that's why. Their team will smelt fast without protection. You have crown to CP pad more as you said.

Like I said, if you don't want to. Then be it.

[tawny kestrel]

@tropic summit
Do I change my rookie arena?

[wicked horizon]

Well, I guess I can try it.
Alternative is to try the same thing as before and lose anyways.

[sudden drift]

its possible. i couldve pulled this off if i had better lines on cindy

[swift mango]

It's depending on how high CP Crown is comparing to Cindy too. Cindy would be much tankier and doesn't need biscuit to keep her Alive. While Crown would trigger Biscuit thus lose one chance for Noah.

[wicked horizon]

Well, I took the gamble on Cinderella's burst. It killed 2 of them and got the rest low.

[crystal flicker]

that's a bad comp

[swift mango]

Yeah, helmT to p5 like I said.

[wicked horizon]

Well, this is with Cinderella bursting, yeah. The idea I was suggested was similar to you changing the positions of Rumani and Cinderella.

[lone zodiac]

I barely understand the mechanics, so far I have just been higher cp teams against lower cp teams and mostly winning, can anyone suggest 3 quick and dirty teams until I can absorb some of the in depth advice here?

[wicked horizon]

You said... Cindy to p5.

[crystal flicker]

Helm Treasured?

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message

Really here?

[sudden drift]

rail jr over here

[lone zodiac]

no, working on it

[crystal flicker]

[wicked horizon]

Sorry, I missed that one with the image being sent inbetween. Only looked at the message right after.

[swift mango]

[wicked horizon]

Is there a line somewhere which are your high CP Nikke, and which are low CP, or is it more of a gradual fall?

[lone zodiac]

liter/crown/cindy/sbs/naga has been my main team for the story so they are definitely built the most, but everyone in the top two rows has been built a bit, that's where it cuts off

[wicked horizon]

Really not a lot of good units there.
Might be better off making one good team and two CP teams.

[lone zodiac]

sure, I am open to that while I wrap my brain around everything

[wicked horizon]

Best I can guess is something like SBS/Liter/Blanc/Centi/Jackal. Not a good team, but...

[crystal flicker]

can use Bay as replacement for Noah, though she shouldn't be P1

[wicked horizon]

It's like, hope Blanc's indom goes on SBS because she's P1, but also hope SBS doesn't die before that.

[swift mango]

A bit different but over 20% deficit here if you wanted to see.

[wicked horizon]

And then just 2 whatever teams out of your 10 leftover highest CP characters.

'cause you're missing a looot of PvP units.

[strange linden]

how much charge spd Trina need again?

[lone zodiac]

ok, thanks for your advice. maybe the gacha gods will smile on me for some better pvp units

[wicked horizon]

Biscuit, Noah, Scarlet would be huge assets to your teams.

Rumani and Trina as clip RLs too.

Trina moreso once you get Scarlet.

[swift mango]

Zero

You ideally use her in 2rl team anyway. 5% couldn't be hurt

[wicked horizon]

Just out of curiosity, what is the CP of the team I suggested vs the CP of one of the other teams you'd make of the leftovers?

[strange linden]

I remember someone saying that 17% was a sweet spot but I don't remember for which character

[wicked horizon]

It's the same for all* characters with the same weapon.

The goal is to reach .5 RL faster burst.

So it's just math after that (if you ignore frame timing details)

[lone zodiac]

it would be something like 106k/134k/108k

[wicked horizon]

3 * (1 - x%) = 2.5, solve for x

Or 2 * (1 - x%) = 1.5, solve for x

[lone zodiac]

Centi and Jackal have no skill levels though

[wicked horizon]

106 would be the one I suggested? Not so low then.
If those are for defense, try to make the remaining two more even in terms of CP.

[lone zodiac]

yes

[wicked horizon]

It's fine, they're not really there for their skill levels.

Because when you're attacked, they need to break through your 2 weakest teams. So you need to make yout weakest team as strong as possible.

[crystal flicker]

ScarBS Blanc Alice Noir Jackal
Crown Bay Cindy Zwei Centi
Auto / Highest CP

I suggest to give some stuff to Centi, Pepper, Jackal, and SR Anis since they're PvP battery and you can use them for a long time in PvP

and once Helm is Treasured, you can slap her to Cindy comp

[lone zodiac]

I appreciate both your help, thank you

[eager mountain]

cs% != rl% but yeah thats the idea behind the 17/25

[wicked horizon]

It is, as I said, if you ignore the details.

100% cs, your rocket loads instantly

[crystal flicker]

still the animation makes it slow

[eager mountain]

like it’s good to know but too much to learn. Rl is simple and intuitive but misleading. If a frame based calculator is out that should be used as the hard standard

[wanton island]

alright. im tired of autoing my 1st (3rd team). whats a good idea to beef it up a bit for pvp?

i feel like my auto team is a free win

[eager mountain]

🐳

[austere haven]

[calm gull]

bane of existence

[austere haven]

Bro hates the squad

[calm gull]

hate is such a poor word,
Loathe it is.

[mystic wind]

@tropic summit can u help me build sp arena team? laplace and helm treasure and lvl 10 s1

[umbral belfry]

based

[crystal flicker]

New PvP Comp?

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/p7tk3WDikEijfjEOjNBMRcD6PEFMS9KJLHuR65Y6NVk/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/GmsLXy-XsAA4xEW.jpg%3Alarge?format=webp&width=1604&height=902

[wanton island]

bready and crumb or some shit

ima pass on both

they give me useless maid vibes

[crystal flicker]

There's no such useless maid

[wanton island]

k.. you sound waifu crazy or not based on reality

[crystal flicker]

There's a reason Maid doujins is a thing

[wanton island]

thats all i needed to hear

[vapid lake]

fat

[graceful grotto]

she doesn’t scream nikke design tbh but it’s pretty well design nonetheless

maybe we got a new designer?

also tetra unit maybe?

[crystal flicker]

I don't think she's RL with that thing

[graceful grotto]

SG clip?

[crystal flicker]

where you see SG from her

[wanton island]

both should be a hard pass with anniversary so soon

neither are pilgrim

[crystal flicker]

I have mileage tho

[oblique magnet]

i really hope they're not pvp meta

i need to save, lol

[dire root]

Am I missing something or is their alice bursting instead of their scarlet?

[raven plover]

sometimes it do be like that

[dire root]

still a easy win for them

rip I thought I was fast enough

it may just be a stat check

[umbral crown]

her face is hot, must pull already

[dire root]

actually no, they are a 160 too, huh

that is confusing. I burst first they should have beem wiped

[umbral crown]

trina was RL with a MG weapon, everything is possible

[dire root]

maybe anchor gave them the hp needed

[loud sonnet]

Do you have record of the fight?

[dire root]

I clicked off too fast rip

I guess their nikkes are crazy

maybe their jackal is in overloaded gear

Jackal shouldn't have stood up for long against a burst III red.

PvP confuses me sometimes

Does jackal link go both ways? Does jackal get a HP boost from being linked to two nikkes?

so you have to kill 3 nikkes worth of HP to kill jackal?

[loud sonnet]

No

just share dmg nothing bonus

[dire root]

Well if they share damage don't they have more HP? Or do they have the same HP linked.

[loud sonnet]

plus you're bursting RH 3 times

If there's only a record

[covert lintel]

fatty

[dire root]

Yeah if you click it is lost forever

[loud sonnet]

Btw the burst order is beginning from left

[dire root]

Oh really, I had no clue.

[loud sonnet]

so jackal archon alice

you're team is just redhood

b1 b2 b3

[dire root]

Yeah. That is on purpose.

Also red hood kind of has to be P1.

Maiden can't be P1 and if jackal is P1 then red hoods B1 isn't used.

[umbral belfry]

archon what we doing in genshin

[loud sonnet]

O shi

[graceful grotto]

Typical anime girls, "fat" only on under belly, face structure and hand is of a slim girl

Not complaining tho

[eager mountain]

and the reality is, depending on gene and habits and age, the belly can easily be more popping out then the upper

[graceful grotto]

While that's true, it normally also reflects slightly on the facial structure (cheek, neck) and other parts of the body (thigh, legs, arms, tricep to be more flabby etc.)

But generally yes, it could happen on underbelly only irl

[umbral belfry]

surely CA is announced soon

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/ina-ninomae-inanis-inanis-tomorrow-day-gif-25547129

[graceful grotto]

[keen vapor]

It can't remain unannounced on Monday

[eager mountain]

[hexed cypress]

How to build a jackal scarlet 2 rl team?

[quick lake]

Scarlet Trina flex flex Jackal

[storm hearth]

is the 21% from emilia's from the nikke deck is that total charge speed or raw charge speed?

[crystal flicker]

in game cs

[radiant storm]

What does Scar God team comp look like?

Noise, Noah, Scar, ***, Rapu?

[crystal flicker]

Jackal

[eager mountain]

s1+ ol+cube
or take s1*(rl-1/rl) + ol + cube = "17"

[storm hearth]

i see i thought i needed 21% from her gears alone lol no s1 nor cube

[eager mountain]

she had built in cs thus need less cs for doing the "3rl" into "2.5rl"

but s1 doesnt get cs until 2nd shot so 21>17

[unique wagon]

Playing on jp server r u from japan tibi

[eager mountain]

nope, my friend played there and thus i got into this hell server

[unique wagon]

Oh rip

[eager mountain]

[unique wagon]

Would be shocking otherwise cus ur english too good

[eager mountain]

ye

[unique wagon]

I've only met one person from Japan whose English is insanely good

Ok he was a rich person and he studied at an international private school

[eager mountain]

the way school taught english using kata was the end of the world for them
and actually trying to pronounce english properly might get you discriminated from "trying to act cool"

[calm gull]

japanglish

[eager mountain]

so despite them learning english and taking english exam for years, lol... ig good enough for learning katakana words in thousands hours

[calm gull]

and english being hard to pronounce words phonetically, not making it any easier

[small lotus]

can someone tell me a good team comp for special arena (helm is treasured)

[swift mango]

You need to show your whole box. Otherwise, your synched units list lack most Arena core units.

Could refer to this list to see the commonly used Arena units you are missing.

#pvp-arena message

[small lotus]

@swift mango sooo?

[swift mango]

Are you ready to invest a bit in units like Scarlet? She needs 557 and full OL, sr5 at least.

Or ReiT for that matter.

If you your Scarlet and ReiT aren't even OL, then you have to build team without them.

[small lotus]

only leg and head can be OLed (head is on modernia)

this for scarlet

i can upgrade burst but would take some time to get 557

doll on the other hand

[swift mango]

How about your ReiT?

And is most of your dps units without OL? If so I guess we could do with it.

[small lotus]

same as scarlet but skills are at 444

[swift mango]

Your quantum cube level?

[near plank]

whats the team to beat this

this guy copied my team but he has sr 5- 15 dolls on everyone so he is beating me even at lower sync

[small lotus]

my SBS RH alice asukaW Xludmilla modernia(technically have full ol) crown (technically have full ol) liter(technical.. you got the point) grave(same case) DKW(same case) Xmaiden(same case again..) tia(same case) have full ols

[crystal flicker]

god comp

[near plank]

this is rookie btw

[small lotus]

lv 3

[swift mango]

2rl Emi.. easy clap

[crystal flicker]

The funny thing about Jackal is, if you use THelm burst against her, it'll kill linked Nikke

[near plank]

if the emilia can 1 shot through jackal lync and noise buff lol

[swift mango]

Even if she can't, the lingering shots will still kill them because no biscuit.

[near plank]

my emilia isnt highly invested to begin with

[swift mango]

Just need s2 max

S3 lv7

[small lotus]

@swift mango so

[near plank]

i mean this is my comp for the longest time i smash everyone with it cause this team has 4x sbs 50% atk melts everything after trigerring s1,
but with his entire team dolled up they survive now lol

[swift mango]

Wait a bit

[near plank]

i dont have any resources to spare, too many meta units to invest it,
i pulled trina but still 1-1-1 no gear cause im still working on previous units

[swift mango]

Your HelmT skill 1 level?

[scarlet tiger]

Good day everyone!
Is there a good sparena def team I can copy?
My def teams might be outdated now
Here are my current nikkes in sync device
I also have Rumani but she's not placed in sync device

[small lotus]

sooo

[swift mango]

Either 3 team or 2 team and auto the 3rd. In case you use SBS+RH you need to adjust it so SBS has lower HP than RH. Either by swapping gear or cubes (vigor on RH if you had it).

#pvp-arena message

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/food-cooking-serious-gif-12450094

[small lotus]

what does rl mean btw

[swift mango]

How fast you burst. It's a time unit in Arena of this game. 1RL is about 1.25sec.

[small lotus]

ok

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message

[small lotus]

S10 means skill1 lv 10?

[swift mango]

🏃‍♂️ 💨

[swift mango]

I already taken it into account that you have lv7 so don't worry

It's still 2rl burst speed

Oh wait my bad... For the 3 team you could use RH instead of Liter....

I totally forgot to put her there...

Put XMaiden to p3 to be safe...

[scarlet tiger]

Ayo thanks

[shell hazel]

also sync Rumani because she is high burst gen b1 battery and no other unit really does that. Enables a lot of the 2RL options

[swift mango]

Jackal chan

[shell hazel]

yeah but Jackal is on one team, she can't be on 2 teams :p

Rumani appears in that list often for a reason right?

[scarlet tiger]

I just did but her gears though...
Welp, f2p always lacking resources

Meanwhile, Trina has all 4 gears in level 0

[shell hazel]

she just needs OK cp really shouldn't be mad tanking, mainly there to burst gen and burst to allow you to avoid needing another b1 on the team

[scarlet tiger]

Btw, can anyone suggest teams to beat this comp?

[uncut portal]

How to beat this team?

It's real annoying.

[shell hazel]

you need to Noah the Scarlet nuke

[kind palm]

you have rosanna built?

[uncut portal]

I hav