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gotcha, I'll have to reset her in the next one and do 4/10/4
there goes my funds
you'll recover
How about Trina? I got her 7/10/6 currently
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LapT has a bit least Burst gen. This could cause your team to slower.
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LapT has higher attack, that could cause her to steal link.
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LapT is squishier, it could cause her to steal Blanc if positioning wrong.
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LapT burst is pretty meh, so if your main B3 ded and LapT burst instead of xMaiden you may just lose.
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guess I won't be able to mlb summer units this time 
i thought you were f2p 

A Whale is a F2P when they want to flex their progress. But a whale when they wanted to show off their capacity. 
I level 10 her burst for campaign....
familiar name, but not in my bracket rn

nah, just a f2p that doesn't mald alice
I'll take people telling me I'm a whale as a compliment though, I'm that good 

100 gems. 
no room in synchro for trina, gotta make some 
took maiden out, honestly, Idk who uses her anymore
Could have taken those as a win 
But those are only equal to a 3 star missions mats quite. 
So basically, 1 4star and 3 3stars

forgot i got a bay, time to use her 1/1/1 on scar
got her while pulling for mlb reit
now you can use her
now i have everyone that can be used for this dumb mode
111 bay no OL and still in range. 
You MLB reiT
weren't you going to MLB her too? 
I reckon you were a Rei fan
I did. Just that I should have core +1 her at least. 
I will, after I max her out....
bg simp

Can't wait for skill reset...
tower stuck on 29% deficit Nihil
HM stuck on 37% annoying stage
nothing to push sucks 
@tropic summit keeps changing def 
new campaign stages in a month... 
lmao you really went for it 

Time to max out consulting time with this girl.
-burn your account
-wash your hands
-cut them off just in case there are still germs
-visit an exorcist
-jump
gonna max her anyway got no nikke to consult

true commanda wont give up on any nikke
there are exceptions
not only she ugly af, she's pure evil
almost got more innocents to die for her own selfish desire
red shoes was better ||villain||

i think the former contributed more
imagine she look cute, adorable, and has a well written past
see thats a diff story
and you can make up one!
your own version of crow
and turn her into an idol
she's ugly forever in my eyes and heart
thats how true commanda never gives up
also not worthy of being only a letter different from crown
A man of small taste. You should be boarden your taste more, youngun.
everytime half heart attack thinking i missed a "w"
it's not creepy, just plain ugly
the only decent thing is she's voice by Aqua's seiyuu
he'll get there eventually
and not even that could save her
noway i'll ever appreciate crow
hot but crazy i can deal with
ugly, crazy and evil pass
su gave up on her based on feedback else they will def try to give her more story and somehow make her more understandable
thats how animu girl villain works nowadays, barely any exceptions
su should've given her a better design, then people could've coped with her redeem arc
overspec crow
n-no.
Favorite item crow first. 
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giving her helms buff wont save her kit
don't force me to use her
well... except the gen part
giving anyone 15% extra gen per rl automatically a must in pvp
She looks hot enough for me.
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you play azur lane right?

Ofc. Played since it's first major event there. 
Only missing Kizuna AI CV version and one free Collab character because of mistake. 
Ah, and most farmable characters in the last 2 years.
Too long to farm them....
But they are permanent anyway
Is there a chart for the best Nuke units? I could not find one on pins
ah, bay also protecced helm from rosa
is it important to OL pvp units, like do yall max out the gears of units like jackal and bicuit, feelin starved for fodder
good cheering bay
then you should know what's hot from what's ugly 
4OL lvl 0 for raising CP, possibly get 3 lines even junk will do
I stand by my statement. 
Pretty much only good nukes are Pilgrims or Rei
praise beauty not ugliness 
you can leave it to real life which is plenty ugly already anyway
simply dont bother main tower and push 50 stages per 20 lv like me
just few raw cd
are you telling me to idle months
unless running out of gem
thats what i do, consistant 5-15% deficit main tower cakewalk auto, main tower just feels like an addon
How do you push 50 stages per 20 level? Are you at tower stage 2500 now that your level above 500? 
so my main tower is always like 600-650-700-750....
Thank you
@eager mountain
you infected even blood with 
Nukes are not the only way to attack tho@jagged sedge
team cp to tower cp ratio curved more differently from the beginning
now its a bit stablized
so i do that for consistant low deficit main tower
indeed, you can attack @keen vapor 's teams when you're a ton of CP ahead instead 
per level tier
So your main tower is at 2664 now that your synch level is 541? 
I dunno who else to use for my odd team. Ive been switching with cindi and Emi

we infected blood with
at first
Oh right, Emilia nukes
oh true
is where it all begun from

thats how what curve does
not times by 5 anyway
earlier curve would be closer to 1 lv per stage, then now 1 lv per 2.5 stages
Okay 1332 now? 
541-1332 so 750
where's this beauty 
low deficit no pain
that's something casuals would say
Taihou 
would ||do that too||
But my favorite is still Akagi and Amagi.
good taste 
now those are crazy i can cope with.
i just like spamming whatever the certain emote that i got addicted to for a certain period....
Know that the first voting winner on global was Amagi and I was one of the people putting all my vote for her when it happened. 
plus this one fits in so many situations
on how many accounts did you vote from 
is fairly fitting for pvp discussion tho
indeed
One but I told my guildmates to vote for her too when their waifu lose out. 

abuse of power
There was people pulling people to vote for Amagi on in game chat and I joined the fun as well.


that's... a bit off but a good start 
i dont play nor watch azur lane but
but?
Akagi is also belong to the creepy is hot archetype I think.
she falls well within my strike zone
thing is, unlike crow, she's hot

right... there was such a scene 
surely for research purposes?
indeed
what was this silly mistake btw? 
forgot to pay internet bills? ๐ค
Leona and Nero: 
In the anime, there was no commander so it became Yuri relationships...
There was also Besfast x Enterprise...

elaborate @keen vapor 
yuri, cultured
make it better, SSK is female 
you seem quite knowledgable yourself 
another fellow science researcher? 
Theyre kemonomimi
I decided to pull for Children day limited ship when ships didn't know to be return every year instead of CV version of Kizuna AI because I already got BC gamer version anyway....
And the Collab last year with the Ninja game... They put a free character as mini game mileage reward that usually just icon... So I forgot to get her...
shame on you, now she'll never come back cuz collab curse 
I'm fine, I got all Neptunia characters. 
And 1 Kizuna AI version is enough anyway....
Ninja game Collab can still come back with enough luck.
best faction
neptunia collab? cultured
I'm common man, Sakura faction I oath the most girl...
It's the most famous faction anyway...
somehow expected you to be leaning iron blood but actually went sakura uh
reasonable, has the most beauties
Well, I finally Oath my big Zeppy last year because I realized she would never get an oath skin.... Waited since first year for nothing...


Azur Lane x Nikke doko ๐คจ
HelmT and Mast in Azur Lane and we can get someone else over 
In the off chance it happened Zeppy would never be picked, as CN player made the dev deleted her from CN version. 
uh what was the reasoning?
railtracerrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
They banned both original artist and voice actor of the poor girl for politic reason.
They had to replace voice actor before bring her back to CN version. But without the original artist and her losing much of her favorability in the early game she is just forgotten now. Only old players like me remember her shining days... She was famous enough to be one of the first to get a L2D skin... 
what troubles you
you gave me two centi's
ah yes, the cloning 
however, trina has now come out, so should i replace the first one with trina?
something like
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Scarlet blanc rh trina jackal
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noise centi cinderella helm rumani
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noah biscuit rap sanis lap
yeah that works
covers the speed requirements at least

trina can be used on a glass cannon version of scarlet while freeing up blanc or just as filler battery
start with this one and see how it goes
i likely will from now on
however, it seems like nameko (the one usually swapping places with me) has hit a wall vs the exact same comp i've been using for two weeks now
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idk what happened since then but i woke up to 4 gemmed attempts, which is unlike her for the past 5 days
usually its "i'll hit you 3 times a day"
don't change what works, keep it until it breaks 
i mean, she broke it prior, but i guess something happened and now it became a wall...
in any case, while she remains walled, im gonna focus on gearing trina and raising rumani and rapunzel up to speed
Not a high enough deficit to wipe them right?
RH in p1? 
I threw all my highest combat power units in to see how much power it was.
def dont put rh p1, maybe crown instead
it's 22% CP deficit but you need to kill enemy cind with autos
considering enemy team is 3RL, it's a bit of a yolo there
CIndy is a damn tank in almost all PvP encounters it seems, I saw her eat red hoods burst III before and live.
But that may also be because she is a high investment nikke
so she probably gets all of the overloaded gear
To be frank it's just more about CN government brainwashed their people to hate Japanese, their major political and business competitor in East Asian. Convenientlu diverging citizen attention out of inside corruption.
About 20 years ago, there was tension between two countries but not as much as now because CN still needed Japanese tech. But in the last 10 years, the tension which should be lessen with times suddenly flare up and affect Korean as well. 
oh wow it was still about that ai kayano incident with the temple/shrine? 
that goes way back
Yes, it's always that one temple.
Even after Japanese president apologize and gave them money. CN government is just shameless at this point.
Apologize for saying the weather was nice? 
oh my
well CPP is known for being pathetically petty 
I mean it's just political move at this point. It's more convenient for their citizen to hate their business and political competitior.
they borrowed some simpified chinese characters from japanese version of simpified characters anyway
and chinese ppl wont ever know whatever the heck anyway
imagine being disliked worldwide even more than north korea 
let mafias and gangs be recognized as a legit political party that represents a country, the us and the west were too soft to let those happen
Yeah no, I don't think I can build a team comp that can counter this, I need to get stronger and pull some better units.
The main problem is their jackal link.
show box, if you've an indom it's easy
you've plenty enough CP to do this
now they get rich by running mafias business against its own people and use those to buy off african contries and western corrupted leaders
reality is reality
Cindy + jackal is a real pain to deal with.
hmmm no noah and no blanc ๐ค
and your best B3 seems to be reiT
Cindy P1 is dumb
She is highest attack
so she might as well be immune to damage
for a while with the link
Still dumb
At a cost
godda*n clinton let mafias into WTO and think ccp will actually hold promises lmfaooooooooooooo
ok thats too much political talk
Well not that dumb considering this guy has been at the top of bracket for like 3 seasons in a row
oh but i see something
Anyone who attack that team gets increased speed
Standard scar jack is a counter to it
arrange this team and show CP 
it's going to be a natural 2RL possibly 1.5RL
due to cindy in p1
and feed from maiden
Oh right Asuka was in that previous team comp purely for combat power padding.
can probably even run naga B2 here and stay 2RL 
ok go:
Reit naga rh rumani jackal
record match and run 
Huh?
nandesuka? ๐ค
Is that still deficit? Unsure I need to check
Will Rei T nuke even do anything she only has 4 investment in the burst.

I suppose the may hope is it kills anis?

What is that for?
a blanc would've been the cherry on the top here or a noah but that's the best you can run 


Let's hope
Naga feeds to 2.5 tho
feeds who she's shooting cindy ya fool
She's supposedly linked? It will proc Jackal
rapu and maiden are linked, unless he's somehow running atk% OL already at that synch
Naga shooting maiden in that pic
Maxed doll 
Or is it not
Ah right right
SGs on attack shoot p1 guys 

it's enemy SG that on attack shoot your p5
naga isnt sr
but rapun has a good chance to be linked anyway
definitely
https://imgur.com/a/4udE5pL Oh right Jackal didn't link to Rei T because Naga is here rip.
rapu and maiden are likely linked
their cindy needs 20% ish more atk to beat rapun atk
not quite likely for 189 sync but could be
congrats
Why wouldn't she?
in general you'd think an attacker has more atk than a support 
Naga is a campaign unit with overloaded gear and Rei T is a lowly PvP unit not deserving of overloaded gear.

attacker has 20% more atk then support by inherit
if you already knew why didn't you say anything 
so ur naga have 20% more atk form lb and/or ol
You deserve defeat 
I kind of forgot.
a lesson was learned today if anything 
Yeah overloaded helmet op
but yeah you need a decent B3 for PvP
RH is fine but can't instant nuke like reit, scarlet cindy and the likes
game was rigged from the start
getting reit up to speed seems like a good step, but focus on ur pve anyway 
Damn whale and his 2 cindy copies.

3
wild whels
cindy pulls.
ye no real reason to invest reit unless for sbsless kraken
mhm
dont really need her that bad in attack if u can eventually get other units
good nikke will come with time anyway, gotta need to get lucky
Stupid whale*
Don't follow his Cindy P1 tactics 
Yeah almost done with red hoods skills so I can spend the next month dumping all my mats into 10/10/10 crown. 
RH carry
You can start now 
He is stupid and still winning easily. 
the reason we telling you to not copy their cindy p1
Such is the whale power 
unfortunately you don't have the right card yet to punish it 
ๅใ at the end
it's the nekopon guy rookie team
That clip gets worse every time i watch it
Why does bro have noah in the middle of his team helping RL hit 4 targets 
Yeah I rolled Red hood and crown as my only 2 good pilgrims so far, which makes me amazing at PvE but not so much at PvP.
ใใฏใคใพใใYOUใงใYO
it's actually better that way, you can push harder campaign and keep up with progress and levels
damn it's been a while since i last checked these

feedback: make clothes transparent just like helm's
issues: not all clothes are transparent just like helm's
I think I will stop rerolling OL line for 1 months my last 50 or so rock were all for nothing anyway... Need to refresh my luck...
At least I can still bully the other whale.



that's the thing, it never gets better
my RNG on rocks has been shiet ever since cindy arms happened
i'm just saving now hoping it resets itself somewhen
waiting for ca (delay) news before spending rocks again
or just saving for 2.5 rn
I don't reroll for 1 specific line, just to roll out bad lines. But not even possible there.
CA (delay) 
Sad but it is what it is 
How is it that you roll so many spare bodies to the point you go over 3 copies on multiple units but can't build a better team comp then that in rookie?
Guess I will go to hibernation mode on here too. Have fun 
Well, seems like bond episodes are broken
you mean the skip simulator scenes?
guess i'm not missing much then 
I read them..... When I have nothing else to do, and that's never
So I have those gems saved up
Each 2 units gets me a free synch slot 
i keep telling myself:
"i claim these, but i'll definitely watch them... somewhen... sometime... eventually..."
Flora bond episodes are about the commander getting pregnant 
what in the world.
anyways it begins @keen vapor
mf whels getting their further CP boost 
gonna be idle for seasons probably
at least until april new chapters
when i can open le boxes
Rail got rail-
me also hoarding again waiting for april
At least you're C4
I do not
The feel when there's 1 month and a half for new chapters so you can't use cases anymore 
rail getting bullied 
Good because i dont want to mald 23-21 i'm stuck there without the power of RH B1 to bruteforce the silencers
I push again after new chapters are out
what doesn't kill you makes you stronger ||or eventually kills you|| 


2 month long break from campaign 
@vapid lake synch?
342
Rapi should do the trick 

No that stage made me realize how big of a difference rh b1 really makes
37% deficit and without RH B1 i'd be hitting for 1dmg
Legit not having rh b1 is the reason i cannot pass that stage
My D1 Returnee actually cooking
Other ppl pass the stage with 50k cp lower than me because they have rh b1
And they can bruteforce the silencers and farters before they cause too much dmg
how's your crown and alice cheese though?
I dont do enuff dmg to kill the silencer boss before the time bombs blow up and i die

No rh b1 power
you're prevented from malding
at least you're spared the fate of playing on harsher deficit
I haven't been playing on 35%+ in like half a year by this point i've grown used to 20% deficit life
I'm just gonna wait until new ch out i should be 361 by then
And should be able to pass 24-34

Deficit should go down to something like 10%-15%
is that a linked nose 
ye
what a sweaty little c
If i had RH B1 i would run rh ein sanis helm team and just massacre everything on the screen with ein's burst

skill priority for trina? didn't look at her yet
Skill 2 more important
4/4/4 and sleep
all skill books for siren
or that 

We all know it's 
We all know it's
Higher sync needs higher s2
Shes the free welfare unit 
finally Echo's main will release 
dokoda liberalio
soon TM
this will do for now
seems good enough for le pvp
any stats for OL or whatever?
Everyone's broke 
CS%
Always CS 
anything else has no time anyway to be useful, as she's 2RL glass cannon oriented
either kill or be kill'd
unless you planning to run her with moran stall... but it has been rather dissapointing so far 
appearently her healing is far less reliable than good ol' rapunzel
Disappointing? 
gonna need to rebuild my defense in an hour or two after adding her to synchro 
trina is good on atk but worse on defense
nothing beats Rapu
glass cannon 2RL is weak even to p4 bay
isn't it enough pressure to have on hand though?
WTH WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO ON DEFENSE THEN
just stick to indom scarlet on def
also moran/bay etc, I don't see those in my bracket
adds the requirement of 2RL noah + sustain at least
and I only fight with 2 guys in my bracket atm anyway, and they don't roll with those kind of characters
well you can give it a shot
so a trina defense could def cook them
i can confirm trina scar team is easier to kill on def because one guy higher than me in rank became easier to beat when he switched
well... go to church, turn on a candle, pray and slowly repeat:
"tsubasa... please come back and hit these guys with me"
And since i know he reads this chat im expecting he will change it after a few days once he realizes it
lurkerino
don't need to thank me
just need to tank Noah tho
Rival-kun
He's off again 

maybe he came back just to say goodbye for good
checked his nikke, kissed his modernia, went to bed forever

wallet issues
That too
I got 381
is not enough?



When ca announced




Is it necessary to make charge speed 38% for emilia?
what can I use against this in rookie?
they must be annoyed, they use to farm points off me, not so likely anymore
Nooe, units needs love
Not necessary
It can be nice to have tho
Yh
too expensive unless you only mald pvp and ignore pve completely
quantum/aduj depending on gen, tempering if p2(gen tier priortized)
mineral water?
meme/specifc reference
gen tier?
if quantum gets u faster gen then quantum over tempering, bad idea for p2 trina defense tho
both sheet and website done it day1
nice
what is a team without trina that beats this def?
3rl bis/sacc Rosa
3rl noah bis noise Cindy
Might be depended on feed and cs
what is bis?
Biscuit
what's helm burst gen at s1 lvl 7? phase 3 treasure
around 33 in 2RL yeah?
19.91 - lv10 value + you curr value per rl
@eager mountain @pale knoll i c thx alot guys
3rl // noah noise sbs biscuit something

If anyone has a laplace treasure with higher than 8% cs, I need some simple tests done
Record fight of your laplace against a 2rl comp (preferably scar Trina) and/or a 3 RL Noah/biscuit, and let me know each of your lap's cs lines
tHATS FOR WHALES ONLY
Noah Biscuit Cindy THelm Rumani
dont have Rumani, but blanc/anis summer/rh/bisc/jackal worked
I C thxx
Might have one, gonna check it once Iโm back to home
Position should matter tho
lap is more or less hitscan, so shouldn't change much
but sure do p5 lap if you can to be extra safe (longest distance)
YAY I just pulled Centi finally, using 3 random tickets. How do I lvl her up? 4-4-4 or too little for pvp
Just replace Blanc with Rumani and move Centi to p2
Isn't P5 the shortest towards enemy P1?
You could do that or leave her 1-1-1 and focus on only overload lines
Sp arena - is Centi swappable with anyone? Noir even tho I lose a ton of cp?
I mean if u put urself in cp deficit ure dead anyways.
Technically Centi is better but Noir has some niche uses on attacking
If you swap her for Pepper, put centi on P1 and Noise in P5 then your team 3 will have a little more sense
You can replace Pepper tho
now I understand why your CP is so low.
That's a lot og gems 
My son
is team 2 and 3 winnable?
ooo that's a fun one
depends on if your trina can live to burst
if I had to guess, it's a no
1 more gear for 17% CS Trina....i forgot how tiresome it is to make 1 char with 17% CS 
Should I just move Trina to P1 to avoid Cindy's feed?
It's 2.5
I'm going back to Scar Blanc for Def it seems, so I need to move Trina elsewhere
Cindy cant be in P1 or P2 iirc, P3 is laplaceable too I think, P4 is safest
yes, but I wonder if Trina will survive till burst
u can kill if CIndy has no boost like dat???
say ur against Noise..they still ded? or still survive?
Cindy hit hard enough to kill tbh
Unbuffed Cindy can ohko. More reliable with Noise/Trina/RH buff
wait....Trina buffing Cindy on what department????
Cindy is RL....Trina buffing Rifles......
Cindy burst is random hitting target....while Trina burst giving more dmg to hit all target
am i missing somethin here? 
hmm i forgot about her max hp buff lol
hmm despite it is less effective compared to Scarlet that is being buffed by Trina....i guess its pretty worth
if i have to choose to build my team between indom-Scarlet & Cindy + Trina vs Indom-Cindy & Scarlet + Trina.....i think indom-Scarlet + Cindy Trina still better
ima tryin to cook one 
not sure if i can reach 2 RL for Cindy tho 
Cindy trina helm and 1 more easy
use trina either for 2RL cindy team (hp buff and atk dmg buff) or to boost any slower team (your T1 with SBS is weak to 2RL scar-trina for example)
Assume the enemy has at least 2 2RL teams with instant nuke, your 3 defs need to be able to survive that to give you a chance of winning def

if you cannot, then raise your odds in having at least 2 teams on 2.5RL
that's achievable with 17%CS on batteries
since 2.5RL noah can now catch 2RL cindy nuke due to cindy nerf
running rosanna on def can also counter enemy jackal links lineups or at least raise pressure on attackers
lastly, try to have anti-nuke resistant teams (indom, noah, damange reduction stacking (nero + moran), copium bay in case)
Its impossible to naturally be 2RL with Scar Blanc RH 
lastly, a good reference if your def is decent is if they can survive or mitigate against these
Though Mari 4x Atk OL% is equals to double buffed scar
you mean this is equal to double buff scar?
(if mari on 4x atk% OL)
yeah, only with 4x atk i n Mari
oh wow ๐ค
surprise surprise
saves you a blanc and RH
and a trina
with CS% this becomes an interesting 2RL alternative
or even just place laplace or jackal in p2 for extra feed don't even need CS% then ๐ค
interesting
Trina could go with Cindy possibly
what about rosanna + mari for focused attacker kill?
then flexB3 can this guarantee kill 2 before B3 burst?
Yep! Absolutely works. Iโve been doing it.
Could run Rosanna Mari + Quiry
if no attacker to target rosanna aim at pos1 2?
rosanna if no attacker enemy still target highest attack unit right?
Hits P1 P2 assuming no taunt no atkers iirc
Research here, credit to Merry
#pvp-arena message
nice atk team right there
might caught someone off guard for a def team too
first come first serve
attacker in p1 p3 p5
rosanna will hit p1 and p3
if only 1 attacker, p1 (if alive) and attacker
if only 1 attacker, p1 dead, p2 (if alive) and attacker
and so on...
Yeah. Now abit slow nowadays given everyone is at 2RL 
if soda random can be taunted then rosanna no attacker can be taunted?
or just ignore taunt?
Rosanna nukes can be taunted 
rosanna on 2RL as long as not in p1 or p2 will likely be casting before any taunt is applied ๐ค
priority
attacker > taunt > position?
or taunt > attacker > position?
noah noise on hit taunt?
I only just realised today that Rosanna team cant be 3RL cause her concealment buff runs out 
Needs to be 2.5rl or faster for full nuke dmg 
or just attract?
but cuz you position rosanna to pos4 she donโt usually get on hit taunted
but we also found that rosanna pos2 with jackal donโt lose conceal when linked so she can be at pos2 but can be hit and taunted by rl taunt?
Probably taunt>attacker>position i think?
Still need to build moran and nero 
Thatโs 2 10/10/10 SR15 units 
Okay maybe Nero isnt that expensive
soda wonโt be a problem in 2RL team until you see 1rl 80% gauge jackal team that got enough feed from her in the future 
what's with you and soda
but she really is the meta counter in pvp 
What team if she's a meta counter?
Scarlet+Blanc+RH+Centi+Jackal on ASS
Cindy team to hit the Cindy team....
4.33, 4.92 cs
p5 w/o taunt so fastest proj possible
So my first team should be the 3rd where cindy is?
preferably slower
@quick lake from your handy link - #pvp-arena message
Noah SBS/SAnis Helm.T Biscuit Rumani/Centi (2RL)
Centi doesn't work here we have no B1 without Rumani ๐
I wish this post was pinned as well...
I got gank'd to C5 smh
Tried to hit afk C2 but he has 4RL Cindy and Bursting right after Noah shields gone lol
What team for 4 RL in a Cindy team?
According to merry, P4 Rossana will hit 5-1-4-2-3 if no Attacker.
If HelmT linked it would be very close. Enough to be 2rl against a 5 RLs team with double feed (Scarlet+HelmT p1+2) ( RH cover pierce once)
Got it, thanks!!
T1: Scar Blanc RH Emilia Jackal
T2: Skip
T3: Noah Centi Cindy THelm Noise
Just use my recommended T1/3 as ur typical attack teams. The current atk teams u have are pretty bad
My Centi is over invested 
at what point do you guys stop fighting with a stubborn top 3 challenger to retain at top
Depends how stubborn u are ig 
or just yolo it and do it just out of spite
To each their own 
I see
Moran Trina Cindy comps may be more viable
Just keep it going 
scar soda trina clipRL jackal
2RL speed can block 2RL noah(if she taunt soda) from bursting and randomly stun another nikke along with noah

Did you try the trina soda scar comp yet?
Against noah team with same rl
Why people RNGing their wins with Soda just now?
Yep! It works
I have proofs will make gif later
use the comp to hit rookie everyday
C7 soda finally will see the day of light 
how much CP deficit can you get away with it with that comp
as long as soda scar donโt die and you can kill
deficit generally not v good. Just avoid if possible
15.39%
So before the stat penalty hits
Concerned
@swift mango blood kun 3 defs please.
ty... im too far off at 29%

Yeah. keep deficit less than 15.4%
Another alt?
nah
somebody want me to help them build a 3 defs
im lazy so just let blood kun do his job

ur turn to cook 

sure sure
ive got him for both T2/3 just cant close the deficit on this one
best i could do to up CP is swap out biscuit out for centi
whats the team
Alice Drake Naga Rapun RH
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Scar soda trina 2rl
Pre-200 sync, just ignore pvp say real
This is the only Moran Cindy nuke that can reach 2 RL 
Moran Trina copium 
Emilia can be swapped for other clips RL for position flexibility (for example, you could add Rumani and put her on P2 instead)
Liter+Mari+ReiT+Rapu+Rossana (s2lv4 at least)
Noise+Anis+Cindy+RH+Drake
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@tropic summit I found something to make good use of my Moran 
It'll have nuke power and 2 mini healers for immortal tank
I don't think team 2 is fast enough 
Edited
moran need biscuit
without her, she won't have enough time to build up her s1

@strong hull edited

but anything fine on atker, just don't separate moran from biscuit in def cause it's an ez prey
Trust, my x/10/10 Moran will be fine
Also, she gets 2 second invul at the start
Moran Biscuit Summer Anis is my worst team ever btw 
When will you make me a 3 defs echocho san

My 1st fav
SR15 Moran Biscuit and SAnis 
When you invest overloads 

Problem is easy scarlatable team, Summer Anis will die before she can burst

Might still lose to 2RL Noah

if only we have tanky clipRL to put in pos1
if noah got stun cindy can wipe
but the main problem of that is pos1 to 3 just dies


Need 15 doro
Delay from stun not enough imo. Opponent 2RL become 3Rl might still be in time
cindy burst longer than 1 sec to hit all?
I don't know the updated time
2rl cindy blocked by 3rl noah
Against Noah it should take 2 secs
back to scar trina
Scar Trina Soda seems to hard counter Noah P1/2 now 
using noah biscuit means you can't use noah noise to 2rl on less feed team
but soda would still feed noah noise jackal to 2rl anyways but def team
noah can be in any pos she hit p1 and spread to p2 soda to taunt
noise noah mess with soda's targeting cuz only one will override the taunt and if that's noise then you have 1/4 chance to stun noah
so if noise cs more than noah
then noah will usually be the last to taunt soda before soda burst
if not that your team get to burst first and noise or noah's second shot haven't land on soda yet
scarlet/soda/trina is a OL/dupes match up
you need +40 or+50 atk in scarlet
cored units can tank your nuke
if you face a noise 2RL is tricky
against biscuit depends in your team damage pre-burst
cs OL battle too
Scar, Trina, Rh, Anis Sr. , Jackal
Can be enough to wipe right?
I see sometimes not a wipe vs noise burst
scar-trina is enough if you have +50% atk in scarlet OL, but yeah rh in that team wipe everything
still lmb and ol battle
but if scar +50% atk OL then probably wipe
but I only got 1 atk OL on scar
I focused on ammo for raids in the early days lol
my scar ammo ele mostly
Same, Ele can't help in neutral wipe, need 4/4 Attack% 14.63 or 13% x3-4
usually the main reason is opponent's SR 15 dolls 
even RH Trina Scar can't wipe if not good atk OL
you still need ele in pvp
more in scarlet that is a unit that can use her S2 counters
Yes but with against Water Ele enemies then its okay
But if its Neutral, element in pvp is not gonna help
Like Electric Vs Electric is neutral
most of the time cheap damage depends in the support units
just go for atk/ele check ammo for reload* or add crit if crit if you need it
But Electric (Scar) vs Water (Helm), then elem will help dish out more damage
helm is attacker so usually not the concern cuz attacker lowest hp
the concern is usually supporter and defender with more hp and def
but still she has SR15 dolls
SR15 is treasure for her
yeah
My probs right now is my opponent's Drake placing like wth
if you use non treasure helm pvp then better swap to someone else
Emilia (Sacrifice), Drake, Laplace, Anis Sr, Pepper
soda looks like a lot of fun ๐
Can freaking kill pos 2/3
Blanc, Emilia, Rh, Biscuit, Anis Sr
I lack her currently, I've added to the wishlist
I have the wrong soda (the other one)
that's why I'm having fun with her comps recently lol
she feed too much to jackal making most 3rl jackal team 2rl speed so she wasn't used in pvp at all
failed as a debuffer at old 3RL speed, her heals take too much time and she as a MG can't tank scarlet S2
Slower CS Noise. Now Noah won't taunt.
Funny enough, my CN whale Noah+Noise is exactly that way.
still 1/4 chance to stun noah 
I won't use that for attack. 
make your def soda rng 
or if opponent with no knowledge just use noah single taunt and lose and think it's rng
I love it ๐
if anyone ask you why soda
just tell them she's meme comp
scar+trina not being enough to wipe enemy teams in some cases? underbuilt trina skills?
rh+trina seems overkill and unnecessary
scar on 10/4/10 with trina on 1/7/4 should be enough unless you letting them noise B1
I want noise anchorM helmT to be good
maybe already a good cp gap comp 
depends on opponent gap with you, their dolls, their core
if you wanna ensure it happens, SR15 scarlet 10/4/10 and 1/10/4 trina is probably enough regardless
give scarlet 2-3 atk% lines
i have 10 7 10 scarlet with 4 4 4 trina, but sometimes rapunzel survive
will be a while until I get any pvp only units past SR5 anyway, was working on redpi rn 
trying to get all favorite item is already hard enough
and want to SR15 every main raid units and campaign push
but at least now I'm at hard 36 boss
i want to try this, but my last CS line on helm is so hard to get
one day I'll have a built moran
without cs17 it became 3rl
she's sr so it's probably fine if she have less than 17% because no travel time
what's a good Rookie Defense comp?
time to promote soda team
Noise, Noah, Biscuit, Cindy, Jackal ๐ค
Not Really
Copy this team
But change Cindy to S. Anis
I have an opponent with this lineup
But I use Noah, Biscuit, Rapi Rh, Rh, Jackal

Unga bunga Pos 2-5
you can check https://nikke-deck.web.app/standard-decks/r at another time, i did this feature recently, more data soon
Create and share a GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE deck
most of my opponents use this
noah biscuit sanis helmT jackal
rookie def
and I used to use it too
this is what I use for Rookie Defense
Good def if the other opponent doesn't know how to counter that def
rookie def need to be as fast as 2RL or there's too many weaknesses now
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eP-9zFwVDR8LRCPSMxFtaH41aV9oqbGx49erhZXtpK0/edit?usp=sharing
Hi pvp gang. I've made a nuke math sheet. You should be able to toggle the total DR% and input which buffers you are using for a particular nuke. You just need to key in the relevant nuke%, in-built buffs (if any) and OL atk% if any
Should be correct plus minus 5% i think
The sheet doesnt take into account dupes/cores/gears and other flat stats


looks interesting, but anti nuke doko
noah biscuit
I need Noah Biscuit in other team 
Decreases damage taken, Moran has giga buffed HP/attack damage for her lifesteal and Cindy has her decoy 
My 100% ele laplace would clap that easily 
Unless its a Moran/Biscuit lineup
Laplace laser would only tickle Moran ๐ญ
I don't see noah there๐
Uhm, Moran can literally survive Laplace laser with the help of Biscuit
I meant biscuit
Dk why I said noah 
didn't know you had diesel treasured tho ๐ค

oh you don't... 
@quick lake @tropic summit this is getting out of hand..., approaching 50+ back and forths with this guy in the last 2-3 hours purely for spite
this man cooking out of the box scares me @quick lake
he's onto something ๐คจ
can you please take a look and see if there is any setup for me to defend against this guy
soda meta ? 
Don't Spend Gems
Its not worth it
i know full well its not worth it
exactly as jemmy said, plus arena is silly, on equal invest opponent you cannot 100% def
i know its silly... but i just wanna go full tilt today and see if he taps out
Trut, defense is 100% passable if your opponent know how to counter your def team
you can post your box anyway, maybe we can come up with something unusual
just don't have any high expecations because if he knows what he's doing, you're not coming out of it 
here's current
Just don't stress yourself out
Silently upgrade your units then make a comeback once you have invested in some meta pvp units
oh he has lvl advantage and slight cp advantage over you
even more less reason to bother with this
especially if he plans to keep on spending
why Pos 1 Cindy
post your full box next 
well opponent not that much better, p1 RH 
box incoming
also tia before their B1 in a scar-jack team 
Opponent's Rh gonna lifesteal like crazy 
opponent smoking weird stuff
hmm let's see 
i finally got to the point of dominating him and challenger 2... then he went and spent to get over the 341 hump for CP pad
sometimes it just be like that
got a rapu that's sharing T4/T5 gear with grave if that makes any difference
let's get a few questions out of the way
helmT: s1 lvl 10? stage 2?
laplace: treasured?
scarlet: what's her skil lvl and OL
bay: what's her skill level
yes thelm s1 lvl 10 stg 2 (10/8/4)
SU is the only one winning here 
laplace not treasured, never used her before
scarlet... let's just say there's a reason i have EIn in the jackal team...
Treasure Helm
Laplace Treasure
Drake Treasure
All these 3 is a must in pvp i suppose
not pushing your opponent with scarlet is already a bit of a deficit on yourself
albeit can still try something
let's see...
scar: 7/4/5 gears M3, M2, M2, M0
No
it seemed like only a week ago that i was getting brainwashed by you lot to wishlisting rosanna...
I have her on my wishlist tho
I need her core max
Cuz I see a lpt of Drake treasure users in my Bracket and its Hella powerful on p2/p3/p5 Laplace
yes because last week you mad scientists were cooking up crazy defense teams with her
us lowly peons still in syncro 330s
How she attacks P2/3?
She can 4-5 shot pos 5 
Her B3
So does any SG
Wym you aren't 381 like me :pepeh:
when does this crit come from?
@rail also got a small stash of skil mats... mostly burst and 19 boxes of the 30day supply stuff
But her burst instantly kills pos 2/pos 3
Blanc, Emilia, Rh, Biscuit, Anis Sr
my noah died instantly in p2
Emilia, Rh got B3'd burst by Drake
rosanna burst should goes to noise and lap+
Sg attacks pos 5 to pos 1 right?
In defense 
Big lightning 
um cuz im not day one like you guys are
Yeah

try this next
Affects enemies within attack range.
Deals 3009.6% of final ATK as damage.
Should be Pos1 to 3 but Blanc has Biscuit S2 so Pos 2/3 got obliterated
@sudden drift highly suggest getting your scarlet to 10/4/10 SR15
also try to get trina, there's some interesting def teams we can try with her to mess your opponent up a bit

I'd like a record, please and thank you
i've witnessed it. rapunzel stun 

diesel treasure built yet?
But u still won 
No 
cp pad team 
well what are you waiting for, that team looks interesting 
Ngl, I want to do Rapu stuns
soda stun far more reliable tho
condition to trigger rapunzel stun is kinda tricky
Rapun Scar Trina flex flex trust
ty, forgot to answer your question, rumani is 1/1/1
If I use Diesel instead of Trina I don't reach 2RL 
get her to 4/4/4, 4OL lvl 0
going to need her 
Rapun p1 stun target hehe
i do have trina, but both her and rumani are not invested at all
wait
Condition is being underleveled
I fit that perfectly
for once, it actually helps 
trina 4/7/4
yea rn trina is 1/1/1 no doll M0 on all gears
if we ever get early burst increase maxHP without healing then rapunzel taking some damage might get a reliable full team stun
i swapped some better tetra gear to rumani from moran... ill give it a whirl and let you know
like how we get trina for scar
we might get specific pvp buff for rapunzel somehow lol
one day... no point in half investing in her when my scar is far from competitive




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