pvp-arena

[keen vapor]

Next time I'll try to get C3 down ig

Bringing war to this bracket

a small chance if I get bigger gaps between me and Vlad

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

Kisama

[swift mango]

I'm gonna rank #1 in rookie this season

Unless the whale decided to use his free coin hits or gem.

[keen vapor]

You're on section

[tropic summit]

Echo in ch1-ch3 range when

[coarse lake]

wow, your rookie actually competitive?

ig it makes sense, cp close enough together

[swift mango]

My whale want to be competitive with me.

[coarse lake]

my rookie... and sp.... are just stagnant, #1 is whale that cp diffs everything in both game modes, then there's me at #2 cp diffing most ppl, and cook-diffing whoever can get in range

then there's everyone else fighting tooth and nail for 3rd

[tropic summit]

Eon fangs getting rusty

[keen vapor]

At least you can god comp

[tropic summit]

no action bracket

[swift mango]

You can't ?

I think I'm the only one chatting here who doesn't have Rapu.

[keen vapor]

Check my Noise lines, that's what happens when I tried to fix it

[swift mango]

I can't check your gear in Blabla. You didn't unlock them. Gear view is locked by default.

[lilac holly]

what is god comp? 😄

[keen vapor]

A thing locked from you if you rolled charge speed

[swift mango]

Just Noah+Noise+Rapu+Flex

[tropic summit]

these

[swift mango]

It's strong from the very old days of pvp. Now it just a stall team that could be easily Scarleted

With Trina around.

[tropic summit]

scarleted?

[swift mango]

2rl 3 buff scarlet.

[tropic summit]

still gets blocked by noah, vid1 above

[keen vapor]

Ok, fixed it enjoy my Jackal/Crown lines

[tropic summit]

good luck indom 10s against 5s+3s+5s invulnerable

[swift mango]

If you used them with flex HelmT then you can block it. But that team isn't very flexible for defense.

Just Emi it.

[swift mango]

This team 1 isn't god comp. God comp need Noah+Noise+Rapu. Where's your Rapu?

[keen vapor]

Go on check my Rapu lines

[swift mango]

I can't check it if you don't show it.

[keen vapor]

I told you, it's fixed now

YOU HEARD THAT? VLAD?!

everyone in my bracket hates me

[tropic summit]

at least you've friends here

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Should be fine though... Even if Rapu a little bit faster. Your Noise CS > Noah is what matters. If you put Noise p1 just put Adjustant on Noah.

[keen vapor]

You didn't checked

[swift mango]

Rapu 15%

Noise 4%

Noah 3%

It's fine

I see np with this.

[keen vapor]

Well, Noise gets aggro before Noah

[swift mango]

Put Adjustant on Noise.

[wicked horizon]

Is there a reasonable 2RL Scarlet Trina team without Jackal or any other clip RLs?

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Any clip RL is going too far don't you think?

[swift mango]

You mean after Noah, because it's fine if it's before.

[keen vapor]

Noise gets damage after Noah burst

[wicked horizon]

Any clip 2 RL? What does that mean?

[keen vapor]

Sorry, mistake

[wicked horizon]

Well, any aside from Trina.
Trying to see what's possible.

[swift mango]

Your Noah has 6 bullet. Your Nosie has 15+. So when Noah Reload the target skipped to Noise. It's normal.

[coarse lake]

just roll more cs on the other unit

[wicked horizon]

Nevermind, ignore the question. It's not possible in the way I had envisioned.

[coarse lake]

last I tested, it seems very hard to get optimal taunts in god comp post-burst anyway, and it only really matters if the fight is close (double buff or higher indom scar)

so just noise taunting before burst should be sufficient in most cases

I still haven't figured out what's needed for optimal post-burst taunt, mainly bc my noise/noah keep whiffing against the scar when she goes to reload

[keen vapor]

HOW IM SUPPOSED TO FIX BLUE AMMO LINE ON NOISE

[coarse lake]

reload whiffs are extremely common, normally doesn't matter if scar has ammo, but messes up post-burst taunts

[swift mango]

It's normal just keep it.

Noah will steal back the taunt after she done RL.

[wicked horizon]

I just don't know what to do with my teams.
I wanna put Trina with Scarlet, but I'm not sure if I can take Jackal somewhere else then, or if that bricks the team?

[coarse lake]

well high noise ammo means noise is taunting until she reloads

which... does mean you got some sustain problems

[wicked horizon]

Especially any units that boost survivability kind of cause the team to turn back into 3RL.

[coarse lake]

or pray your noah reload shifts her timing enough to steal from noise

can experiment with resil on noah, it does change things a bit

[swift mango]

It defends, my Noah did steal back the taunt though.

My Noise also has more ammo.

[coarse lake]

if your noise was taunting at the start of fight, and lost taunt before she even reloaded, then it's prob noah reload shifting her cs timing

it's difficult to calc out such stuff since they got diff reload speeds, just gotta test it to figure out what works for your specific setup

for me, with the scar whiffs, the taunt goes back and forth several times during burst, which is actually fine

[swift mango]

Should I build her?

[shell hazel]

a wild soda appears

[coarse lake]

I would wait a bit

[swift mango]

If you really really want to fix it... Just roll 2 ammo line on Noah.

[coarse lake]

since any invest into her is irreversible (leave skills 1/1/1), it's ol and doll that matter

needs enough atk to link over trina and your p4 unit, and needs enough bulk to live vs splash dps

and enough cp

initial ol + sr0/sr5 should be enough if investing

[swift mango]

444 is very cheap price to pay for the CP it add.

You don't fight whale 50 level high than you like me. Low investment into CP units are useless.

[coarse lake]

with how rarely we get resets, I wouldn't even 4/4/4 her, but you do you

[keen vapor]

Why you're seriously discussing Soda invest?

[coarse lake]

I got several 4/4/4 units that I never use, and now I wish I never 4/4/4'd them, because it's a bit too cheap to waste reset, but it's still a lot of blue books wasted

[swift mango]

Echo should know best since he is fighting 19 whales in his bracket.

[coarse lake]

better off farming for ol lines on soda for cp

she wants atk, that's it, should be easy to get 3 liners

[keen vapor]

Guys, what are you cooking

[coarse lake]

nothing else matters (ig def and ele are better than others)

[swift mango]

Well she is one of the burst 1 to consider to go with Scarlet+Trina. Mainly for DEF team....

But against whale def team mainly useless anyway. Rarely I get one def in when he slipped up...

3 times this season actually.

[coarse lake]

well, even if you don't use her on def, on atk... you could make something work

2rl noah? ok still scar trina them

[swift mango]

Let to RNG god

[coarse lake]

p2 soda so there's no rng

[swift mango]

Scar Trina? Okay still scar Trina them.

[coarse lake]

and if they make their def setup resistant to it, well they're running a bricked setup (or noise noah)

[keen vapor]

Isn't 2 stuns too RNG?

[coarse lake]

just avoid fast rosa jackal, but you can do that when attacking easily enough

running scar jack into fast rosa is stupidity anyway

[swift mango]

When they attack you it's them who pray.

[coarse lake]

soda stun can get taunted

[keen vapor]

[coarse lake]

so p2 soda, if their noah has taunt prio, she will always get stunned

[swift mango]

Sample or lie.

[wicked horizon]

Are there any (good) P1 buffers who have as much or more burst gen than RH?

[keen vapor]

PVP gets more scary each day

[coarse lake]

sample + data from several pvp experts like keripo and gatrix

[keen vapor]

Mica

[coarse lake]

so I'm willing to trust that, esp since I have yet to see otherwise

[wicked horizon]

Regular Mica?

[keen vapor]

No, winter

[swift mango]

Last I saw Keripo discuss this one on this chat, they said otherwise.

[coarse lake]

huh?

[swift mango]

[wicked horizon]

Where am I gonna get a Winter Mica?

[keen vapor]

2026

[signal hull]

He asked where, not when. xD Answer is: from Winter Mica banner!

[wicked horizon]

I wanna fix this somehow. It's kind of scuffed right now.

[swift mango]

Well, I will test it in Rookie in 2 days then. Like part dmg up doesn't affect Dmg to cover when people told me otherwise before.

[keen vapor]

Pepper is another option

[coarse lake]

you can't have 2 taunts taunting both stuns, but you can have a taunt + attract taunting both stuns

if 2 taunts, the higher prio one taunts, the other stun is rng

so noise noah with noise taunt prio means noah is now only 25% chance of getting stunned

also I'm also wrong about rosa there, rosa can't be taunted by 2 taunts, it's taunt + attract

[swift mango]

Well, idk I haven't seen any Soda working on that so will just take it.

Not like it matters until I actually use it.

[wicked horizon]

I fear Trina is too close at P2 and will die to some explosions.
But I can't put her further down because then RH steals the burst.
And I can't but RH further down because then Rumani or Jackal steal the burst.

[coarse lake]

make trina bulkier

it's your only option if runnning rh

sr5 that cow

[wicked horizon]

I'd change the team entirely, but I don't know what to.

[keen vapor]

Pepper

[swift mango]

Or sacc p2.

[coarse lake]

yeah that too

[wicked horizon]

Is Pepper actually useful though?

[coarse lake]

I'm considering 4th ele line on laplace, to get her to 85%+ ele for that reason

[wicked horizon]

Scarlet Trina feels like a good core, but I don't know what else to put there while keeping it fast and not too fragile.

[coarse lake]

if considering pepper, just use liter

bigger buff, likely already tanky

[wicked horizon]

Liter won't... Oh, actually, Liter will reach 2RL, because Jackal's still in the team.

[swift mango]

Soda

[coarse lake]

do you have to use rumani there, can't switch in other clip rls?

[wicked horizon]

Uh, Centi's the only B2 in my Cindy team (which also isn't optimal).
So I can't swap those.

[wicked horizon]

Regular Soda?

[coarse lake]

eh should still work with 2 quantums

but you won't be able to go faster than 2rl due to needing 2rl worth of feed from enemy

if liter is linked, then you get enough feed in just 1rl

[kind palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348936199821070407/1351606976152604784/scar_soda_trina_swipe.gif

[coarse lake]

actually ig soda is unnecessary for atk in champ, since you can simply run 2rl scar trina with buffer (prob liter) into a sg team/sanis team anyway

unless you wanna use it specifically against a 2rl noah

[wicked horizon]

I can't go faster anyways? If I don't fire 2 rockets myself, I don't have enough burst either?

[kind palm]

yeah soda seems suitable for rng def except if you want to disable taunter

[coarse lake]

you can go faster with cs on all your rls

but it's not really gonna matter if not using rosa or soda b1

so it's fine, won't make a diff

[swift mango]

What champ? Champagne? 🥂

[kind palm]

if opponent don't run more than 2 attacker then rosanna is nicer I think except there's good B3 defender burst too

[coarse lake]

with rosa you gotta make sure scar has the dmg, and that rosa also has the dmg

with soda, just gotta make sure scar has the dmg

with buffer, no dmg issues, but you just get 2rl noah blocked

no perfect option here

[wicked horizon]

So, opinion on this team?

[coarse lake]

weak to p1 bumrush

[wicked horizon]

Yeah...

[coarse lake]

replace maiden with another clip rl

[wicked horizon]

I don't have another one.

[coarse lake]

anis?

[wicked horizon]

Too weak.

[coarse lake]

cindy helmt should be enough cp that it's not an issue

[wicked horizon]

I just... can't use SR units, and I need to invest in other units.

[coarse lake]

how built is your noise

[wicked horizon]

This is more of a theoretical team, but it shouldn't take long to get OL gear and SR 5 doll.

'cause, one thing someone suggested to me here, was to take Jackal away from Scarlet's team.
I suppose I could put her with Cindy, but I'm not sure how to change units around so that in the end, I end up with better, not worse, teams.

Well, Scarlet's team would suffer anyways. I just don't want it to suffer so much that it would be pointless to even make the switch.

[coarse lake]

well

that's asking to get splashed to death

emi + lap is prob enough to kill your scar + p2

[wicked horizon]

With 2 seconds of invuln. at the start?

[swift mango]

You could actually move scarlet to p3. And it would still work.

[wicked horizon]

Well, P2 might die.

[coarse lake]

that only blocks 1 rl hit, maybe 2 if they got high cs

unless you got another team that desperately needs jackal to work, I wouldn't take her out

[wicked horizon]

So, any ideas for the Cindy team to stay alive?

[swift mango]

Like I said before, you need Noise or Rapu or Moran to make Scarlet Trina work without Jackal.

[coarse lake]

yeah rapu would work

since scar only takes 1 hit before rapu heal

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

could also do this if you want

[wicked horizon]

Okay, sure, Rapunzel, Trina, Scarlet, clip RL...

[swift mango]

Move Trina to p1.

[coarse lake]

scar/trina/rapu/flex/flex

[kind palm]

hope rapunzel <30% hp to stun aoe it's fine

[coarse lake]

if rapu p1 you need another backup b1

[kind palm]

jackal is the backup b1

[wicked horizon]

This will not hit 2RL without 3 clip RLs on the team, will it?

[kind palm]

oh but you don't want to use jackal right?

[coarse lake]

anis + xmaiden + quantums works

[kind palm]

rumani is the clipRL backup B1

[swift mango]

Scarlet can be P1 but p3 if you she too much dmg to p1.

[coarse lake]

or clip + emilia

otherwise 2 clips yes

[wicked horizon]

3 clips?
Because Trina's also a...

[coarse lake]

well I'm not counting trina here

[swift mango]

But Rapu can't be P1. If you wanted someone to he p1, use Noise

[coarse lake]

either way it's quite a hassle, and you don't really gain much from it anyway

[swift mango]

And back her up with Rumani somewhere in your team

[coarse lake]

if you go noise, you do noise/scar/trina/xmaiden/jackal, noise scar link

[onyx scaffold]

what cube should I invest for sp arena?

[coarse lake]

if they can't kill you fast, they melt to counters even if they block

[swift mango]

You don't need to link.

It defeat the purpose if you link

[wicked horizon]

Okay, so keeping Jackal, keeping Trina, Liter stays P2, hopefully she doesn't die, but if she does I have 2 backups.

[coarse lake]

need link to get enough jackal feed

unless you use an extra clip rl

[swift mango]

Noise+Trina+Scarlet+2clip is 2rl already.

[kind palm]

xmaiden is not clipRL

[coarse lake]

at that point just use jackal as one of the clips and swap noise with a buffer or stun or snipe

[wicked horizon]

Aside from Quantum and the usual?

[coarse lake]

like, what other team you even cooking that needs jackal over someone like rumani

[swift mango]

Jack could go with ReiT+Blanc

[wicked horizon]

I'm sticking to this, can't seem to find a better one.

[coarse lake]

sure if they're running that

[kind palm]

I stopped building ReiT

[wicked horizon]

But that leaves me with this still.

[coarse lake]

but noise + backup rumani also means his cindy team has no viable b1

[coarse lake]

I did as well

and most likely won't even use for champ def, since sakura

[kind palm]

can't kill reliably with just 1 buffer and now we got scar trina

[coarse lake]

for atk maybe, need nukes anyway

[coarse lake]

what's your third team

[wicked horizon]

benched as soon as collab ended

[swift mango]

What Champ? 🍾 ?

[kind palm]

good for 1 solo raid

[wicked horizon]

Here's all I got right now. (I'm also considering changing Rapunzel for some CP padding SR or faster charge gen, since Rapunzel is a bit overkill, I think.)

[kind palm]

swap xmaiden and rumani?

[onyx scaffold]

how about tempering?

is adjutant used?

[coarse lake]

hoping your scar is linked

[dire root]

lol getting ping ponged around.

[wicked horizon]

AFAIK, adjutant is really weak compared to what you could get from even just 1 OL line.
Tempering is decent though, for any situation where you have a tank that taunts or sits at P1 without strict invulnerability.

[kind palm]

emilia not 21% right?

[swift mango]

I think it's time you upgrade your def teams CP.

[wicked horizon]

If this is for me, then thank you, but I'm sorry, I don't have Emilia, and probably never will.

[coarse lake]

then build anis bruh, just 4 initial ols is plenty

cindy and helmt make up the cp loss if you got them high invest

[dire root]

I'm terrible at defense.

[swift mango]

That's like 30% lower CP than Emi.

[kind palm]

if you don't have emi then her cp is 0

imagine if we have R unit with clipRL

[coarse lake]

if not afraid of feed, can do this too

swap out noir for whatever clip sg you got highest cp

[swift mango]

Will be used for champagne arena

[wicked horizon]

This is an intersting choice, but doesn't address the Cinderella team at all?

And now team 1 is too tanky? Like, it was surviving okay with just Jackal Scarlet at 3 RL.

Or was this about freeing Rumani for something?

[kind palm]

the slower you burst the more you need to tank

[wicked horizon]

Yeah, so, I don't think Rapunzel is necessary to heal and revive.

I don't understand the switch there.

[kind palm]

scar p1 burning her own hp is very easy to die

rapunzel is the safety net

scar can just die along with jackal and noah when they linked

so rapunzel even without reviving helps guarantee scar survive to activate burst

[wicked horizon]

It was fine with just Jackal and a slower burst. Trina will keep her topped up for 2 whole seconds, and the burst will come sooner, so it's strictly more survivability.

[kind palm]

in real time you don't activate burst 3 at 2 sec but around 3.16 sec in 2RL speed

[wicked horizon]

I understand. But a 2RL burst is still faster than 3RL.
And that's what the comparison was for.

[coarse lake]

noise/rumani/centi/cindy/helmt

[wicked horizon]

That's enough burst gen to fit even Moran as P1, if I want to.

[unkempt meteor]

my pvp teams are:
Scarlet, Blanc, RH, xMaiden, Jackal
Noah, Centi, Cindy, tHelm, Noise
Who should be in my team 3? Id like to invest as little as posible and have PVE overlap.

[grand plaza]

How did you create this image?

[spare nimbus]

does this burst fast enough

or do i swap blanc with centi

[unkempt meteor]

pasting screenshots on paint to concatenate them, why?

[grand plaza]

Just thought it looks neat ^^

[unkempt meteor]

yeah, way easier to look at than having many screenshots

[terse abyss]

Kind of a niche question, Rosanna can remove Blanc's 10sec indomitable?

[eager mountain]

technically yes but it wont cast after blanc burst

if rez renews her s1 then maybe its possible with rez

but "once per battle" effect might still apply even after rez i suppose

[grand plaza]

I become 1st for the first time

And probably last time lol, its worthless :D

[eager mountain]

it is, just snipe last minute

tho, honestly, kinda the becoming the same for sp within same deflict range, since defense is getting more and more pointless, with increasingly more and more characters thats simply better for attacking, as if there isnt enough advantage

[tight lantern]

what's a surefire way to win these matchup? I usually use Noah team vs the other Scarlet team and then the other two teams at kinda random. lately doesn't work anymore

[eager mountain]

why u go full mirror

[tight lantern]

I think this guy mirrored my teams actually

since I remade them the other day, lol

[eager mountain]

he cant mirror your atk team

[tight lantern]

true, then it's a coincidence

[pale knoll]

"Coincidence"

[eager mountain]

t1 prob not even 2rl withOUT feed, just that scar feeds and cindy could be too slow
or simply rosa + invuln p1
rh + trina is overkill even at this sync unless they have stall buff

t2 easiest to noah, 2.5rl noah is safe

t3 is 3rl noah so just 2rl scar

[eager mountain]

chances are he uses the same atk and def team, and therefore one of them copied

[pale knoll]

You invest like nothing on the nikkes? You get boost from 501 and 521 yet he's close to your cp

[terse abyss]

so the 9 machine gun shots will fire way before she burts huh, kinda useless then against blanc

[pale knoll]

Ancient techs

[tight lantern]

ah no, I actually have identical DEF and ATK teams, lol

[pale knoll]

Yeah, what tibi said haha

[terse abyss]

the only reasonable counter i can think of against blanc+jackal is a more delayed blanc with biscuit?

[eager mountain]

10th mg shot fire around the tiem 1st rl fires depending on cs so yeah, not even 1rl blanc would do

[tight lantern]

yeah that's weird, he's the only guy in this shard with similar CP compared to other guys at my level, he's probably all 3 lines on his OLs. I have all OLs on those nikkes and all dolls I think

[eager mountain]

if u know their exact gen, yes

[pale knoll]

Indeed

[terse abyss]

ugh

[eager mountain]

using same atk and def prob means he dont care much about pvp

[tight lantern]

yes, my T1`is 3RL and needs feed, as another user adviced me some days ago

but it's close, he said

[pale knoll]

Yeah, that's what I used to do when I was a few months in

[tight lantern]

I 'm actually flabbergasted that pvp in this game is kinda complicated, I don't really like this mode but I wish to remain in challenger at least, but lately they are breaking my ass

[eager mountain]

rh trina double buff is only against moran/noise b1
might not nuke for certain moran setup

[pale knoll]

It's not complicated, just a bit of knowledge and you are good to go

[eager mountain]

trina herself is a double buff

[pale knoll]

Attacking is pretty easy

[eager mountain]

yeah attacking is getting easier and easier now

soits also easier to learn now despite having more nikkes

i persoanlly like to have all 3 teams to win for my own arena but thats never needed anyway

tho honestly, they could make it only 3 wins counts for successful atk

more balanced this way in current meta

[tight lantern]

my noah team is 3rl

the other day I played around with the sheet, and it looks like I can get two 2RL teams, but I need to SR Anis, which has very low pow

[pale knoll]

That'd be pretty nice tbh, although it would hurt 1 of my accounts

[eager mountain]

if maiden also have quantum, then it would be 2.5rl with 1 jackel feed + 3 scar feed, which would apply against most teams tbh

1 jackel feed is almost guranteed, 3 scar feed is the same

[tight lantern]

I'm sorry but what is feed exactly?

[eager mountain]

10 hits against jackel or jackel linked nik generated 3.55% gen, thats the usual feed we talk about

scar also have 30% to gen 0.5%gen per each hit, thats also feed, less relevant

[tight lantern]

ok so it means basically how much you are getting hit, which can't be computed by the sheet

[eager mountain]

and thats why scar jack was the most popular comp in sp for quite decades

the sheet estimated bullets in each tier as u can see, u can math it

[tight lantern]

maiden with quantum

[eager mountain]

but its not accurate since it doesnt account charge speed lines

[eager mountain]

typo, 2.5rl

[tight lantern]

I try pitting my pseudo Scarlet 2.5RL against his noah

[eager mountain]

for instance, if their team is 2rl and have 39 bullets, thats 3*3.55 jackel feed if your team is close to 2rl, like this the one you have, requires exactly 3 jackel feed without scar feed

[eager mountain]

nope, just replace rh with a rl, its 2rl, and it should nuke if your scarr has atk ol + s1 b3 lv 10, and trina s2 lv 10

[tight lantern]

it's the only team that won

[eager mountain]

cuz its not finalized

tho 2.5rl scar worked woah

their cs lines are bad

cuz their t3 should be "2.8" ish rl with any cs

and that would block 2.5rl scar

[tight lantern]

you are dishing out crazy pvp knowledge, for a mode I completely skipped for decades

[eager mountain]

it'd be like that lol

[tight lantern]

I won

[eager mountain]

build a rosa if u havent

shes pretty good imo

but expensive

[tight lantern]

it was my scar team vs their noah team, my noise vs their scar, and my noah vs their cindy

[tight lantern]

I'm kinda focused on pve, I'm saving for the 2.5 anni pilgrim and I feel a bit guilty because I brought Trina to 4/7/4

I thought it would help me to stay comfy and unbothered on challenger 4-5-6 at least but I was kicked to challenger 9 all the same

[eager mountain]

it wont since she made attacking even easier now

now all 3 teams can be 2rl with trina

[tight lantern]

my scarlet burst is also only level 7

all 3?

[eager mountain]

so defense teams also need to be 2rl in most cases, the only exception would be scar jack blanc which i personally think isnt that good anymore

[tight lantern]

what is a setup with all 3 teams as 2RL?

[eager mountain]

but not all 3 2rl team has to be dealt with 2rl attack, so they have much more options

[eager mountain]

it wont be perfect as it priortize rl over utility, 3 2rl team was possible before trina, but bad, now its possible without being bad

[tight lantern]

you have to use SR anis though I'm guessing?

[eager mountain]

so using low gen characters like both cindy and rosa would likely scarfies some core units like blanc and replace those with semi battery, might not be ideal

[eager mountain]

yes.

[eager mountain]

thats why its still an inch from buidling ideal 3*2rl def teams, so not a must, defense is now really bad anyways

[steady patio]

just got a bunch of pvp relevant chars (centi, rumani, cindy, jackal), i'm looking for help making teams out of this pool

[eager mountain]

where is rail, i rarely cook teams

[eager mountain]

focus on campaign if u havent beat ch22 already, you can form teams but likely dont wanna use much resources on pvp at this sync, and resources are much needed for cp

[tight lantern]

my trina has almost 10% CS

[keen vapor]

Actually true....

[eager mountain]

scar trina 2rl will require all batteries to have cs to be faster just like other 2rl teams

[tight lantern]

removed Red hood from this, it's 2RL indeed, maybe I'll leave this team in defense, maybe he will fail

[steady patio]

i did manage to beat ch22, still chipping through ch23 at a nasty deficit, kinda just waiting to break 160 wall at this point and the sloooooow cp gain from dailies

[eager mountain]

beating ch22 would be for unlocking ai, so focus on ai instead for more rocks/gears, pvp is somewhat a late game mode imo, and is tiresome. if u want teams u can ask railtracer

[steady patio]

fair enough, time to go back to doing half a bar to harvester and kraken lmao

[eager mountain]

tho u can invest on units that both good for pvp and pve
like cindy, even tho shes not as good now in pvp still good enough

[keen vapor]

In all fairness, Scar Trina does not need extra buffer

[tropic summit]

TiBi in le kitchen

[steady patio]

got cindy today so it's a matter of getting dolls/OL gear that's really gonna bottleneck me

[eager mountain]

just answering questions and wiking instead of cooking teams

[keen vapor]

Help, can't do 26-17

[eager mountain]

yes i told him to get rid of rh, but his trina is only 4/7/4 so might not be enough at his sync to beat c7 attacker, needs s2 maxxed

[tropic summit]

my red golfish memory doesn't help, what was that stage

[tight lantern]

correction: my scarlet has burst at 8

[keen vapor]

Silencer, 2 jellyfish, silencer boss

Aerial oneshotters

[tropic summit]

oh that one, gotta cheese with crown + RH + alice

[eager mountain]

and ofc her burst and s1 also needs lv 10 for single trina buff to be safe
it will surely nuke unprotected water dps regardless so u can do that in offense

[tight lantern]

scarlet is 10/6/8

[tropic summit]

get to slightly before boss, prepare ur crown on 19 stacks and get RH B1 ready, then get boss to appear, pop crown taunt and get alice mega buffed and click on that spawner as hard as you can

@keen vapor

[covert lintel]

will noah's burst gen get slower if she have many max ammo?

[tight lantern]

anyway guys, are bot known to exist in pvp? an year ago I got in a battle with a guy, and I swear he re-attacked me, at anytime of day, in a matter of literal seconds, not even the time to refresh the page

[eager mountain]

[tight lantern]

looked weird

[tropic summit]

like this? welcome to sweaty arena

[eager mountain]

[covert lintel]

that mean he 24h refreshing pvp

[tropic summit]

but ye i'm highly suspicious on this guy using third party tools already reported

[eager mountain]

if its seconds by literal, could be bot ig

[tight lantern]

thanks, then I could leave RH for defense and use emilia on attack when I know I need 2RL

[tropic summit]

although considering he has invested enough money in the game to sponsor stellar blade 2 i doubt they'll touch him

[keen vapor]

You'll see, I use RH B1 to pass first wave by defeating silencer and first jellyfish

[tight lantern]

25mins and 15 mins? that's 10 minutes, I'm telling you it was instant, the moment I attacked and won and refreshed the page, I was instantly back where I started because he had reattacked me

[tropic summit]

das fine, you can use RH B1 before boss, you just gonna need to stall before boss spawns

[tropic summit]

[eager mountain]

i just did this to c3 accidentally and now he stop fighting for the spot

[covert lintel]

in previous season, i fought with a guy within 5-10seconds before reset

[tropic summit]

ah yes... accidentally

[eager mountain]

by the way, the very only sensible c1-c3 ive seen in a while, he never gems

[tropic summit]

you meanie

[eager mountain]

yeah feel bad that i did it to the few sensible pvper there, man it hurts

[keen vapor]

Stall.... But the only remaining rapture is second jelly on my second rotation

.... So you want me to risk that?

[eager mountain]

reset snipes not that important imo, just annoying and setup stuff, its more of a rookie thing, or maintenance snipe

[tropic summit]

you sure there's no buffer/passive raptures you can spare?

leaving jelly alive is kinda bad cuz that'll kill you slowly

[coarse lake]

there are 2 types of c1-c3

[keen vapor]

Not when you use SBS to clear aerial one shotters

[coarse lake]

the type that mainly want the 3k gems, and the type that want to be as high rank as possible for ego

my whale is the latter

prev bracket he would waste like avg of 100 gems every single day, to keep c1, vs c2 or c3

[eager mountain]

always a fan of the "there are 2 types of" phrasing

[tight lantern]

emilia worked

[tropic summit]

fragile ego whels

[strange linden]

I can't believe it, rapunzel survived a a trina+RH buff

[strange linden]

good job man, this is crazy

[covert lintel]

that is exactly my bracket number 2 right now
i teased him everyday when no one atk me

[strange linden]

she didn't

[tropic summit]

bricked scarlet? CP deficit?

[tight lantern]

ah it was you? lmao

[coarse lake]

your trina died

[tropic summit]

oh there you go

[strange linden]

probably, 20lvl+

[tropic summit]

Eon SS shows RH B2ing

[keen vapor]

Time to invest on dolls

[tropic summit]

i guess that's the reason

[tawny kestrel]

ello soo i juz got rumani and heard shes a good pvp unit
anyone mind helping me add her in sp
ill share my roster too

[eager mountain]

p2 elec burst is very unsafe against lapalce

[strange linden]

ye, no hard feeling
just gotta stay as high as possible

[coarse lake]

yup

that's why I'm getting trina to sr5, and why I got laplace's 3rd ele line yesterday, and considering a 4th

[strange linden]

yeee, that's one issue I can't change

[coarse lake]

she gonna do some cow butchering

[tight lantern]

it's been so long I watched a pvp fight, I use only quick battle because it causes me anxiety

[keen vapor]

You guys find your rivals on PVP?

[eager mountain]

thats why i went for scar xmaiden trina anis noise, if running noise with them

[tawny kestrel]

i have space in synchro

anyone?

[eager mountain]

you guys should run experinments btw lol... i wish i can find one in mine to do so

[covert lintel]

idk why ppl put trina in p2
that is just asking to get killed by lap+

[coarse lake]

if using rh that's your only option

ofc you can use liter and bypass that problem

[strange linden]

cause I can't anywhere else

[umbral belfry]

looking at pvp 24/7

[strange linden]

you gotta do it man, how else can you review your mistake

[coarse lake]

btw how built is your trina

always review pvp fights, even ones you win, to see if it's a consistent win

[keen vapor]

You should listen to your rivals Johnny

[coarse lake]

that's by far the easiest way to go from an avg basic pvp chef into a really good one

[tight lantern]

I know, it's my fault for being mentally weak, can't look at my chibi nikkes die weirdly

[pale knoll]

Emilia on p2 or smt

[strange linden]

fully OL with vhest lvl5 and SR1

[coarse lake]

oh wow

any idea enemy lap ele?

[strange linden]

Emilia is too strong, steal Jackal's buff

[keen vapor]

SR1 not enough always SR5

Always!

[tawny kestrel]

@tropic summit dude if your free you mind taking a look?
if your not bz that is

[strange linden]

the problem is I'll never upgrade her cause I'm always using doll exp for my pve units

[keen vapor]

Hard to do adjustments to a still limited pool

[eager mountain]

use it for campaign units yeah other wise pvp is the best place to spend it, cuz dmg reduction is crucial there

[tawny kestrel]

hmmm

[coarse lake]

what sync diff

[tight lantern]

not telling

[strange linden]

we got almost lvl40+ lvl diff

[keen vapor]

No good B2 Rei/Naga/RH/jackal/Anis is the only decent team you can make

[eager mountain]

hes fighting joestar and joestar was like 2 level tier above but similar cp

[oak gale]

got de skinwalker @tropic summit do i level her up after helm or nah 💀

[coarse lake]

hmm

ok then situation isn't that bad, depending on their laplace invest

trina was literally a fraction of a sec away from living long enough there

[strange linden]

actually just lvl26 but yeah two level tier above

[tropic summit]

4/7/4 R15-SR5 budget invest, 4OL aim for CS%

[keen vapor]

Tempering time

[tawny kestrel]

hmmm alr thanks tho
ill try making a better team in a month or so then

[keen vapor]

Be sure to push campaign with rental units in the meantime

[eager mountain]

rent-a-nikke

[tawny kestrel]

Im on chapter 15 rn and each fight is a piece of cake for now that is, so dont need to use rentals rn
Ima push campaign in a bit mby when am in bed yk
I also need to finish the chapter 14 side story

[keen vapor]

Stop renting Marciana

[oak gale]

no i mean do i need to , considering the lineup i have

[keen vapor]

Modernia

[tawny kestrel]

She's with the pilgrims rn 😭😭

[covert lintel]

change RH to pepper
now u can adjust it

[keen vapor]

Always charge speed c'mon there has to be some other stats to pursuit like...... Like..... right

[eager mountain]

well... <20k cp... she is the worse to rental

[keen vapor]

Eat rock

[oak gale]

i mean there is atk

and i dont remember if there was a gague charge rate one or not

[keen vapor]

Charge damage not a good stat

[oak gale]

not damage , atk in general for the cp

[keen vapor]

You were mentioning a gauge charge

[oak gale]

ye charge rate , not charged dmg

at least in my opinion

[strange linden]

I'll get cp penalty with her
I can do liter though

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

uh you could use improving RL on cindy team and reducing feed on T2

as you're running too many SGs

enemy scarlet gonna have a gourmet party on those

[eager mountain]

heavy feed team is acceptable as long as its 2rl ig
tho his is not

hard to build one anyway, usually would just use xmaiden/la+ over clip sg for higher sync

[oak gale]

so build helm and skinwalker , correct?

[umbral belfry]

13 days since the last attack on me

[tropic summit]

imagine touching grass sometimes... taking a shower... doing things

[eager mountain]

no smg(nero lmfao), only mg is like rosa that dispels feed, and the rest is sanis and clip sg feed... yeah hard to actully make one

[tropic summit]

yes finish helmT, boost your CP on utilities (trina falls into that)

[umbral belfry]

[strange linden]

it worked lol, too bad I wasted one attack without knowing it

[keen vapor]

Joestar attack back

[tropic summit]

eh taking a look

[eager mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/tatakae-aot-eren-jean-attack-on-titan-eren-gif-22444464

[tight lantern]

🔪

[tropic summit]

stick rumani in synchro

[tawny kestrel]

I might be a bronzey but i can use gifs ere 🔥🔥

[keen vapor]

It's too limited
There's no second nuke either

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

you've gotta believe harder

[strange linden]

blame the SP system lol

[tawny kestrel]

Yep will do

[tropic summit]

surely a man like you can see the value of a tactically placed Neon SR @keen vapor

[strange linden]

btw ggs for almost clearing the hard mode, you're a madlad

[keen vapor]

[eager mountain]

if ca doesnt have deficit

[eager mountain]

might as well just run pascal

been tempting to use her a bit but ugh cp ugh ol...

almost clip rl for 2.5 rl team

[tropic summit]

if one had pascal

[tight lantern]

thanks man, I really like hard mode pushing and solo raid

[pale knoll]

[eager mountain]

521 is set to clear 36-36, tho black snake....

[tropic summit]

dolla anis pmaid rh rumani
reit naga drake liter jackal
auto

wishlist (after campaign team is done)

noah, biscuit, centi, trina, noise, rapunzel, cindy, SBS

[eager mountain]

black snake would be at least 541

[strange linden]

I hope CA won't be the same as SP arena and just ask 3/5 to win the match

[eager mountain]

it shouldnt, would be even dumber then sp

if so, it should be preset teams and draw your card type of gameplay

[tight lantern]

yes

[eager mountain]

dont wanna invest more ill just wait a bit longer....

needs anchor invested

[tight lantern]

some people even at 530+ but outlier I think

[tawny kestrel]

Tysm dude ❤️
Appreciate your help 🔥🔥

[strange linden]

yeah, SP arena is already boring asf the way it is now
If CA is the same, that would be really disappointing

[eager mountain]

yeah outliner investment
this boss doesnt have too much technical parts

[strange linden]

I guess if you don't have Maid Anchor you're doomed

[eager mountain]

nope, anchor simply make it possible to 541 it now

u can still 561 it without anchor

she just happens to be able to sustain at low deficit and also buffing sbs

since this boss hits omega hard and ignores crown shield

also tanky cuz its coreless water weak

[tight lantern]

this is because liter is still a huge atk buff and b1 right?

[coarse lake]

what invest is your laplace

[eager mountain]

we will likely have a water carry that can mess with black snake, tho even with that, anchor will be needed unless the carry also sustains

[tight lantern]

treasured and 4 ols

[coarse lake]

how much ele and atk

[eager mountain]

elem

we just want more datas

[tight lantern]

30% elem roughtly, 10% atk

[eager mountain]

🤔 lower then expected

[strange linden]

just 30% damn, she is a good anti trina then

[tight lantern]

no sorry, I have no atk rolls

[eager mountain]

just generally have to protect p2 elec burst against her

[coarse lake]

huh

just sync diff ig

[tight lantern]

5/10/10

[eager mountain]

u didnt reset her ig

[tight lantern]

yeah I know I have to reset her

[eager mountain]

s2 is really good for pvp but yeah

we thought she at least had a place in iron weak raid, nope... so bad

[strange linden]

just let the burst at lvl7 max yeah

[tight lantern]

I'm competitive in missilis tower

[eager mountain]

burst lv4 for cp thats it

[strange linden]

isn't Ein and Maxwell better tho

[eager mountain]

la+ is really good for those base defense stages

[tight lantern]

I think laplace better for full auto, which has been my gameplay in towers since 6 months or something

[eager mountain]

usually the most annoying stages other then bosses like MW/MC

with that being said, i dont use la+ neither in tower

maybe i should sometimes for base defense

[strange linden]

did you full auto the hard mode too

[tight lantern]

but yeah waiting for her to be reset for some nice skillbooks

nono, full manual

[eager mountain]

new chapters hard mode are fairly ez despite volleyballs

[tight lantern]

ofc, not even aiming activated or you get an hit rate debuff

[eager mountain]

its just boss walling thats it

[tight lantern]

like tribe tower

[eager mountain]

better then getting walled by farters like in ch23-24

and stuck in cd progress

stuck at boss and us high sync can still reach max cd income anyway

just that to beat those boss walls u need specific unit invested for cp, ugh

more expensive to beat in that sense then mob walls

[eager mountain]

manual rh/alice anyway
but aiming deactivated to reload/cover

[tropic summit]

my pvp campaign team till i was forced to graduate from it carried me on 20% deficit

rh crown liter scarlet laplace+

until i was forced to SBS and alice instead

MW with la+ was something else

i'm still recovering from the PTSD

[eager mountain]

i dont mald main tower at all, so just went over 701-750, 730 was MW, and can barely break its core with rh, had to go alice

10% deficit max relevant skills, crazy hardened core

[tropic summit]

good times

#questions message
#questions message

[eager mountain]

it just feels good to break its core tho

[tropic summit]

core was a dream, at best i was getting to 40%

[eager mountain]

its like serving some justice

[tropic summit]

with 2 cycles of RH and alice

[eager mountain]

that was january woah, breaking that wall did make u progress a lot in campaign

[tropic summit]

the worst PTSD i'm recovering from, from least to most:

-MW
-cucumber
-vulkan
-x8 sharters

the iframe vulkan x100 attempts

a fun afteroon 'twas

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

and yet, hard mode isn't even done yet

[eager mountain]

gonna take forever to reach to newest update

[tropic summit]

indeed

i dream the day i reach maximun outpost level like Rheax and Havel

[eager mountain]

cp increase isnt noticibly faster then campaign cp increase
feeds kinda the same recently

ofc the OL change made a huge diff but thats for older ch

[tropic summit]

i also kinda need a break from meta banners

hoping stellar blade is gonna be a skip feast

[eager mountain]

oh havel also high sync

[wise horizon]

oh wow. i woke up to a debate in regards to this. @swift mango and @keen vapor seems to say go for it. but @coarse lake @tropic summit have doubts and suggested alternatives. the main issue is T2 as it looks RNG. so its either Blanc/Emilia/RH/Biscuit/ and Crown or Drake 3.5RL(7sg) for pos5. thats about what was said right?

[tropic summit]

well not drake specifically but any that lets you hit 3.5RL

as you'll be hitting cindy in p2 for extra burst gen and get kicked into 3RL likely

3RL emi against 3.5RL noah should ensure you bypass shield as it expires before you land it

unless enemy is also 3RL with quantum anyway

then it's guaranteed

as i was saying during that there's also a 3rd option of just hitting T1 instead, you can hit helmT to force her into indom instead of p2 emi

a RH or HelmT with little splash team will likely have helmT lower hp than emi

i think it's worth a shot regardless with the 3.5RL team, bay team has been proved to be realiable so your only bet is on T2 or T1 if you feeling adventerous

[sudden drift]

oh mighty and great @tropic summit , what do we need thelm's S2 to be at for PVP?

[tropic summit]

10/x/x for battery purposes, stage 2
10/x/7 or 10/x/10 for nuke purposes, stage 3

[eager mountain]

lv4 is enough for regular nukes, for emi sanis teams, as high as possible
and also as high as possible as pve unit, shes great

[tropic summit]

@sudden drift example of stage 3 s3 lvl 5

[eager mountain]

no buff and lv5

[tropic summit]

[sudden drift]

so skill 2 doesn't matter at all then? got it

[tropic summit]

best treasure evah

[eager mountain]

i mean just like i said, depends

used to be ignored anyway

[sudden drift]

got it... tks v much. about 8 days away from stage 3 so will get that sorted then

[eager mountain]

not hard to imagine she would be the best out of those 4, but darn shes broken

[wise horizon]

if going for T1,
T1 Scarlet, Blanc, RH, Centi, Jackal (against Blanc, Emilia, Biscuit, RH, HelmT)
T2 skip
T3 Moran, Rumani, HelmT, Bay, LaplaceT (against Scarlet, Trina, Jackal, Laplace, Viper)
@tropic summit

if going for T2,
T1 skip
T2 Blanc, Emilia, RH, Biscuit, Drake (against Noah, Cinderella, SBS, Rapunzel, IceMaiden)
T3 Moran, Jackal, HelmT, Bay, LaplaceT (against Scarlet, Trina, Jackal, Laplace, Viper)
@tropic summit

[eager mountain]

randomly adding 14% gen per shot and randomly 5x her nuke value and 2-3x her already decent s2 buff and heals lmfao...... the best base unit got the most treasure buff

[tropic summit]

as we said b4 if you got something better than drake but still hits 3.5RL do it

[tropic summit]

also T1 is bad matchup, if you going for indom scarlet be 2.5RL or 2RL then just tank RH B3

example of 2RL indom scarlet

single buff scarlet should kill both helmT and emilia or at the very least emilia, which is what you wanna delete from there

[eager mountain]

if noah can b2 before bis 1st stack of invuln hitting it would be great against indom...

not a thing tho

[wise horizon]

noir is probably better than Drake in my box

[tropic summit]

seems good enough

same burst gen, still gives a bit of atk%

[eager mountain]

or could be if linked... linking noah lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1349974851758067732/1218582560406503454.webp

[wise horizon]

Drake isnt invested at all but Noir has OL geared and has skills invested

[wicked horizon]

How's this look btw?

[tropic summit]

anything that raises ur CP is better, as long as same burst gen is kept

[eager mountain]

maybe time to get 4 atk on my noah to cook anti indom noah team

(wont, no rocks for this specific purpose)

[tropic summit]

too many dreams, too little rocks

[eager mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-cringe-cringe-gif-20747133

[wicked horizon]

Compared to
#pvp-arena message
#pvp-arena message

[eager mountain]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/786633720672419892/902078197787680818/DAAAH.gif

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-glitch-anime-bocchi-gif-27016262

[wise horizon]

cubes needs changing on other nikkes before going with the Noir change?

[eager mountain]

all my gif reactions to that depressing tale

[tropic summit]

same as always, noir can run any cube, avoid quantum in that lineup as you wanna stay 3.5RL

or at least do not fall below 3RL

[wise horizon]

only biscuit has quantum at the moment

[tropic summit]

do not run quantum on this for this matchup

also record it as i've prepared my 🍿 in case funzies happen

[eager mountain]

or just sacc non defender p1 and let p2 noah eat both her invuln and then biscuit's other 2 invulns
gonna be garbage in defense

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1349974851758067732/1218582560406503454.webp

[tropic summit]

sacc in CA is gonna be legit

can barely fit into 14% deficit on my whales sacc is beyond even thinkable

[eager mountain]

yeah gonna run sacc there for sure

i didnt in sp cuz c3 has 15% higher cp, sacc will make it 30+

[wise horizon]

in that case, i will stick vigor on Biscuit

[eager mountain]

nvm still wont work rl splashes and will trigger bis easily, still need 4 atk link

[tropic summit]

[eager mountain]

[wise horizon]

@tropic summit @swift mango @keen vapor @coarse lake
Thanks by the way for the advices though

[tropic summit]

mhm went as expected

promoted to 3RL via cindy in p2, then cast into 3.5RL noah, shield expired nuke hit

[eager mountain]

will nuke kill cindy instantly if they didnt, lol, p2 cindy?

[tropic summit]

it would

[eager mountain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1349974851758067732/1218582560406503454.webp

[tropic summit]

bypasses decoy iirc?

just like scarlet nuke and s2

[eager mountain]

i still dont understand how the heck decoy works up today

[tropic summit]

look at how this scarlet almost eats my cindy alive

[eager mountain]

oh yeah

most of her hits trigged s2

rng does wonder

[tropic summit]

indeed was a peculiarly bad RNG, an interesting case of worst case scenario

[eager mountain]

another cooking request incoming for rail

[coarse lake]

smart dmg gets blocked by decoy, dumb dmg bypasses it

if the dmg can be changed by something changing on the enemy team that isn't inherently defensive, it's smart

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-chika-fujiwara-kaguya-sama-wa-kokurasetai-love-is-war-anime-gif-14648226

had to be done

[coarse lake]

fewer units, taunting, taunting by manipulating atk stat, adding attacker, if it's affected by anything like that, 99% chance it's smart

then there's ein drones that just stay away completely

[eager mountain]

smart and dumb dmg like smart hub and dumb hub for technical reference

[neat harness]

Can someone help me build a team for rookie and SP? Thanks in advance

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/floppa-big-cat-long-cat-gif-17528503

my guy please use landscape mode 😄

[tropic summit]

lmao

[neat harness]

I use firefox's screenshot feature haha. Tried to send multiple pics but there's a limit

[umbral crown]

Haha kinda but last night he did a good cook, later at home will cook to beat him again

[shell hazel]

you can flip to landscape top right

[neat harness]

There's landscape mode in blabla?

[shell hazel]

do it from in-game

also can see your power then (sort by power)

[neat harness]

I tried that but too many pictures

[shell hazel]

landscape should work there

[tropic summit]

you making your opponent indirectly stronk... then again you get more interesting matchups... symbiotic relationship

eh it's fine i can see the nikke good enough

[shell hazel]

4 pic limit, but you can fit quite a bit on the old landscape

[neat harness]

Too many pictures, discord bot flags it

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[neat harness]

Hang on let me try something

[umbral belfry]

LMAOOO

[tropic summit]

laplace treasured?
helmT treasured? s1 lvl 10 or lvl 7? stage 2 reached?

[neat harness]

Both treasured
Laplace all 4
Helm 4 7 7

[tropic summit]

can you bring helm s1 to lvl 7?

[swift mango]

I already provided you with 2 solution, both of which should work as the teams you are fighting is just that easy to beat. But just do whatever you want.

[neat harness]

I have 287 skill manual 1, would that reach it?

[shell hazel]

don't think so

but long term you want helm tr skill 1 level 10 so if you can work on it that's a good idea

also do overclock if you didn't yet (more books) and/or open any skill manual crates you may have sat about

[neat harness]

Yeah i need 336 to get to 7

[shell hazel]

I didn't even bother with gathering buffs this time just went in and did overclock 25 without any lol

[wise horizon]

Thanks. it was very valuable nonetheless and it worked out well

[neat harness]

Ok helm's S1 is now 7

[shell hazel]

take it 10 in the end for sure, it's her big old burst gen thing

[umbral crown]

Yeah, boi is cooking new teams every time i beat hin

Now he is gaining 1 level daily

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

assemble these 2 and pick the one that has the better CP (i guess var1)

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-scrooge-mcduck-money-rich-gif-14161225

your whale (probably)

[umbral crown]

When i beat him before season ends he stayed C2 for 1 week

Now he showed me a helm max core tresha and laplace max core as well

[tropic summit]

typical whel behaviour, keep gaining levels for one day to hope to just cut you off via CP

[shell hazel]

can't really beat it but hell you making them spend money 😄

I'll take that as a win myself

[foggy urchin]

Any ideas i can beat this?

[umbral crown]

Rare he did not max core trina

[umbral crown]

Helm treasure phase 3 in a fast nuke, rh gone and ou win

[tropic summit]

go get em space cowboy

[foggy urchin]

TQ

[tropic summit]

kill s.anis, have RH shoot in B3 on p1, you're expecting something like this:

[umbral crown]

Try going 1 RL faster

[tropic summit]

s.anis feed, will be 2.5RL

[umbral belfry]

1 level a day

[tropic summit]

madness, truly

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

and here i'm collecting crumbs everyday

[shell hazel]

look how close the cp is on my top 6

[umbral crown]

He goes 1.5 RL ez

[umbral belfry]

they're biting at your ankles

[shell hazel]

they are lol

[umbral belfry]

[eager mountain]

yet, waiting for his paycheck to do so

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

if I ever spend all my salary on gacha games each month I know I'm in trouble 😄

[eager mountain]

thats how gacha thrives

[umbral crown]

I just wanna whale at least 41 levels

381 and he cries every day

[shell hazel]

I try and balance it a bit 🙂

[umbral crown]

Ez 2m

He is 414 but does not have 3 teams ocer 700k but also not 2m overall cp

[swift mango]

Oh wait I forgot you have no Trina or Red Hood built, nvm my bad, my 2nd solution wasn't possible. Well, pass this back to @tropic summit then. No need to thank me or @me, I'm gonna retire out of this. Have fun.

[tropic summit]

@umbral crown my whel about to hit 421 cp boost send an ambulance

[tropic summit]

it's done already don't worry

#pvp-arena message

[umbral belfry]

soon ill get 241 boost

[umbral crown]

Mie should be 415 anr checking sp more than i used to do

[shell hazel]

want 261 but I guess I'll get 258 tomorrow with hard mode maybe, or a bit under

[tropic summit]

slacking are we

[shell hazel]

send me your card I'll buy more levels 🙂

[umbral crown]

Hard more will give me like 2 levels

[tropic summit]

then again save ur boxes, new chapters soon?

wasn't it around april

[shell hazel]

if I get 261 I think I can clear 34 - 36 maybe

so 2 more chapters of outpost gains

[tropic summit]

so it will to the whel

[umbral crown]

At 262 i was nt even close to 32

[pale knoll]

End of April most likely

[tropic summit]

yeh def. saving them up

[umbral crown]

Bois growing faster thewe days

[tropic summit]

cuz they eat well

[shell hazel]

i'm at 34 boss and not sure I got the power yet

[tropic summit]

spoonful of money

[umbral crown]

Indeed

[shell hazel]

makes the medicine go down

[umbral crown]

Mucho stonks

[wicked horizon]

Anyone care to give their opinion which of the two team trios looks better?

[umbral crown]

Sad my c4 who is here in server does not try to atk the whale despite being 361+

[pale knoll]

No

[tropic summit]

you need to teach em da way

clearly they don't understand the important duty placed upon them

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/charge-monty-python-holy-grail-attack-knights-gif-5136568

[eager mountain]

Hard to redirect and compare, just list

[umbral crown]

Me 361 i could be close to 1.9m

[neat harness]

Yeah var 1 has a bit more CP

[tropic summit]

go with that for now then

additionally, finish ur helmT, get rumani and raise your CP on your utilities if your campaign team is finished

jackal, noise, biscuit, rapunzel, centi aim to R15 or SR5, 4OL, 4/4/4

[umbral belfry]

must be nice having a finished campaign team

swear it's been almost a month without a single drop for my campaign team

[tropic summit]

oh you mean gear... yeah

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

i still remember taking 3 weeks to find a pair of boots

[shell hazel]

gear farm is so

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

my longest was 6 weeks or so getting helm for Cindy (pilgrim def)

[eager mountain]

Ai is easier tho

[umbral belfry]

oof

[shell hazel]

yeah, it can get worse, and it can probably get worse than what I had as well lol

[neat harness]

I think it's finished lol. Doing one campaign level per day

[tropic summit]

then you can safely decide to invest toward those

unless you wanna prioritize SoloRaid nikke

[neat harness]

I want to but I can't catch up lol

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

hime got new sheet version if you want it

i'm trying to get boots for Noah, it's a bit of a needle in a haystack :9

[neat harness]

Da f this is more detailed lol. Link?

[tropic summit]

they grow so fast

[shell hazel]

I can just upload it here it's just a sheet

nothing is referenced but some conditional formats and such

[tropic summit]

[neat harness]

Yeah but it tells which ones to OL

[umbral belfry]

pls share

[shell hazel]

manual entry though ofc

[umbral belfry]

ty ty!

[neat harness]

Gotcha. Thanks

[tropic summit]

ah yes... the secret sheets

inb4 there's a macro in there

hime getting hacked

[umbral crown]

Go max skill on helen

[shell hazel]

tbh if you feeling lazy you could skip columns K onwards, the most important stuff is sat before then really

[tropic summit]

on helen

[umbral crown]

Thats why my name

[umbral belfry]

Losing my acc

[shell hazel]

I'd never do it 🙂

[wicked horizon]

You want it in text or two images?

[shell hazel]

me good boy, raised by my senpai

[tropic summit]

oi, he's smiling

[shell hazel]

railtracer-sama

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-gif-22566873

[tropic summit]

that's a red flag if I saw any

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/andrew-bowser-notice-me-senpai-weird-satanist-guy-gif-6764625015584512027

[umbral belfry]

'I'd never do it"

[umbral crown]

Rail missing the helen nuke

[tropic summit]

indeed

[umbral crown]

With lifesteal

[shell hazel]

macro enabled sheets have a diff extension anyway, you work in IT right 😄

.xlsxm or something

[tropic summit]

i mean it nearly killed jackal it's still enough, gotta save on those poor books 🤔

[eager mountain]

Either

[tropic summit]

oh curious that you know about that

[eager mountain]

Getting used to with gen now so some quick math can get gen

[umbral crown]

Imagine..

[shell hazel]

I read about it whilst researching how to give everyone macro enabled workbooks

[wicked horizon]

Option 1 vs Option 2 (3rd team is noise/rumani/centi/cindy/helmt)

[eager mountain]

Survivor rosa

[tropic summit]

your helmT hits harder because you're her

[umbral crown]

Yeah, she avoids single target hits owo

[tropic summit]

glass cannon trina, that thing wasn't gonna live past 2RL anyway

either kill or get killed

[umbral crown]

When burst was lv7 she killwd Whale s RH at lv408

3.7m

RH was P5

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

hug gently

[eager mountain]

Depends on ur Moran investemrnt

[wicked horizon]

These are goals, not current teams, so we can assume a somewhat invested Moran.

[eager mountain]

Needs to be highly invested, if that’s not a goal (donno if worth), then team 2 I guess

personally i would like data from team 1 but if its defense then rip

[wicked horizon]

What like 10/10/10 or what are we talking about?

[eager mountain]

at least 7/10/10 with some atk lines and ideally also a bit of def lines

ofc, the higher, the more we can see how much she can handle

tho, that would be more for moran trina helm team without scar

still she wants to live as long as possible there

[wicked horizon]

Actually, yeah, looking at Moran, she isn't gonna help Scarlet.

Takes too long to taunt.

[eager mountain]

nope, she taunts all upon b1

thats almost right after trina invuln expires

just that she will die eventually

and how long she lives before scar clear everything else would be how far this team can go in scenario where nuke didnt hit

[wicked horizon]

That's 1 rocket and shotgun shot into Scarlet from everyone.

[tropic summit]

65 levels apart and we're still in

[umbral crown]

Showing the way

[eager mountain]

those hits p5 moran not p1 scar

[wicked horizon]

No, the first one hits Scarlet. Moran hasn't taunted yet.

[eager mountain]

on that one, depending on cs yeah

[pale knoll]

You are gonna make him care about pvp someday and you'll get cooked

https://tenor.com/view/pepega-swipe-pepega-swipe-credit-card-credit-gif-23046210

[tropic summit]

this guy is actually the only whale trying to cook

i've beaten 19 variations of his

ch1 is the sweaty 15 minutes hit back, ch3 is deutsch drunk boi

[pale knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/minnie-mouse-cook-burn-smoke-gif-11960129693651092672

[tropic summit]

on a serious note 65 levels apart is getting pretty crazy considering i'm maldin on 37% deficit

[wicked horizon]

Well, back to the drawing board for me. Tomorrow.

[tropic summit]

the amount of money these guys must've sink in the game must be insane

[eager mountain]

wut deficit there

[pale knoll]

Let them keep the game alive

[tropic summit]

oh the 37% deficit is campaign, i'm fighting on 13,5% and 14%

[tropic summit]

true that i guess

[eager mountain]

65 lv gap and 14% deficit

[pale knoll]

That's why I don't really mind whales in general

[wanton island]

check this nonsense out

[tropic summit]

the one suffering the most is T1, as my hand is very forced there

[eager mountain]

jesus christ

[tropic summit]

their T3 is on 800k, campaign team

my cinderella if she gets to burst removes 30% of RRH hp at best

stats are nuked of 45%

[eager mountain]

ig he really didnt puch much resources in pvp yet even tho hes trying to cook. weird

[tropic summit]

hmm might be

pretty sure their lowest invest are all the utilities

noise, jackal blanc biscuit and rumani are prolly very low

[eager mountain]

hes 421 soon tho, gonna hit deficit with that

[tropic summit]

mhm

i'll probably be cut off then

[eager mountain]

the poor c3 i messing with also has similar cp gap and i can only hit him easily when im just get pass level tier lol

[coarse solstice]

Honestly this deserves a pin

[eager mountain]

with too much deficit in mind its too annoying to cook and im a lazy ass

[wanton island]

beats tapping every single team

[tropic summit]

hence why CA might be the real savior, synch lock and no more padding to heaven as weapon for the whels

i can deal with c7 and better rock investiment, but 65 levels is a hard pass thank you

whels learning then to PvP

[eager mountain]

tho ch 1-10 in mine are all whales or was a whale anyway

[tropic summit]

oh wow that's nasty

[eager mountain]

just that im like the most pve orientated so my investment is the lowest

[tropic summit]

but then you awakened to your pvp calling

[eager mountain]

they are all 500+ and most dont have 3% titles

[tropic summit]

and le rosanna happened

[eager mountain]

and some just blue campaign

tells enough

yeah i didnt focus much on pvp until like pass 1.5 anni lol

so yeah for those with same level as mine, my cp gonna be lower lol

and c3 is higher lv then me so

he settled to be c4 now, what a nice guy

[tropic summit]

probably doesn't care enough for those extra 300gems

relatable if opponents are annoying af

opponents i know don't gem even if whels i generally don't backstab or rat on them

i almost feel bad, some sort of honor/code

on the other hand makes it damn easier to bully the nastiest ones

[eager mountain]

lol ya i do note whos more honorable whos less

not like im the most honorable anyway cuz i maintenance snipes

[tropic summit]

it's unfortuantely part of the ladder thing

SP arena could really use some QoL on that