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whats the strongest rookie lineup i could run without rh, helmT, trina or rumani?
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Well, if you like cheating then so be it 
Probably 2.5rl Noah+Noise+biscuit+Cindy+Jackal.
interesting

You need 17% CS on Jackal at least for that.
Hello. Can you help me to build 3 teams for SP Arena?
I mald since playing nikke w/o macro and alice isn't super hard to quick shoot. Can still get up to 35 shots out on avg
RH ele neutral should do less than alice ele neutral
there's a reason why ppl call alice having wrong design 
Well, I could do that on phone too with stationary target. But how about much more shots or moving target?

idk, I stopped playing on phone cause nikke just works better on pc. moving targets no issue, I always do alice sbs vs kraken and the tentacles are always moving as you know
you just get used to it
Yeah, that's what I said. PC is a must for Alice in campaign. And macro is accessible on PC as well for even easier time.

the way you are phrasing things makes it sound like macro is necessary for alice which it isn't
also, look at retro and tessa, they can mald with alice on phone as well
And retro doesn't clear as much campaign as PC player like Havel at same level even though he mald much more. 
would ein be better here instead of alice?
ein can aoe and do a bit better than alice would in indom
alice gets stuck on single target afterall
okay tysm 
Agree~ but let the incompetent tryhard, tryhard 
But 1 buff Ein would deal DMG so little that a Noise burst on the opponent side would easily negate it. 
could you show me a new trina team for pvp? with Scarlet I guess
then I will construct the other teams
noah biscuit cind helmT RRH
scarlet blanc liter la+ jackal
alice sbs ein naga rouge
cubes:
quantum on jackal and la+
temperance on noah
vigor on biscuit, blanc, naga
any other nikke run highest lvl cube available
wishlist/build asap: raise your CP on noah, rapunzel, biscuit, jackal, rumani, centi, noise (4/4/4, R15 or SR5, 4OL) as they seem to be very little invested
You'll want to review your teams once those utilities are better invested
oh ironically scarlet centi xmaiden RH jackal would've gone better, that tiny bit of dmg from centi B2 would've ended it 
lmao deleted, nice 
It's mainly 2rl glass cannon. But could use Defensive burst 1 option include Noise, Rapu, Soda, Moran.
pray harder she'll come 

It's nice for base defense stage. Just need to clear 2 wave real quick with RH+Wipers.
Like 24-34 that people said being hard, I just cleared it in 38 seconds.
At 20% deficit even.
scarlet trina flex centi rumani (riskier)
scarlet trina flex centi jackal (safer)
flex can be to either push it to natural 2RL or just enough to get 2RL with feed
thanks
That's low deficit, ofc it is like that 
Try to clear that stage at 20% deficit without RH in 38 seconds then.


indeed, he needs to make better def teams 
474
How if I'm in ch31h and ch34h 
20% is nothing 
Ikr, bro's acting like he did something 
tbh farter stages got much easier with thelm as well, even w/o RH that stage should be much easier now
they did yeah except in a race against the clock like the base def ones
meanwhile havel on 35%+ deficit 
but normal farter ones surely are a bit easier
Yeah ikr. He beat my alt account's progress already
lad is made of something else
46% deficit jesus le christ
Waiting to drop 1-2% to clear it
I don't think I ever went above 40% yet
think my highest was a bit under it
was common for like 30-35% mostly except when I hit a bigger wall like a boss stage (MC etc)
Make a new account
Nah, I'm comfortable with 2 accounts. 3 would be burn me out
I just provide the solution 
0 investments in most of them, want to finish my PvE characters firts. But thank you!
yes that's why I barely used them, but you'll want them sooner or later, once your PvE is done 
@tropic summit @swift mango I did my daily standard rolls and got a gold so I
thinking it was RH but it was just a helm dupe 
it could've been a crow, that's still fine 

I did another 10 pull today for Trina, got Crow 
thanks, I played around it a bit with my setup, how could I improve this
Petition for crow treasure for the 3rd time.
But why Rouge on slot 5? I thought she must be in slot 2/4
I might as well include the sheet, the noah team is 3RL, also I would like to not use stinky SR anis due to POW loss
it doesn't matter for that team, cp pad
stinky
you can nitpick it ofc, but it's going to be scarletted or skipped
don't give them funny ideas
burn that account, only way to confirm that thing doesn't breath 
my fodder attack team is always base crow lvl 1 
teams look pretty good... the only nitpicking is on T2 noise and anis... anis should be ideally p3 or p4, definitly better avoid being in splash range (an emilia + laplace could kill her even within 2RL)
while noise as solo b1 in p1 is risky, mitigated although if you're on SR5-SR15 doll with vigor cube and decently invested (2RL also makes her less likely to die before bursting)
noise is SR0 and 4 OLS of course
lastly, RH isn't really needed in T1, you could use her elsewhere if you want to, as trina buffs alone are worth blanc + RH amount of dmg
re-evaluate T2 then
you could go with this base, any p1 that doesn't steal B1 and B3 are fine (naga for example)
once noise is built you can revert to your previous one, minus anis in p2
that much a difference between SR0 and SR5?

no treasure Helm?
you can give it a try, it's 2RL might just do
move away anis to p4 to avoid splash pressure
rest seems good enough
also stinky SR Anis no OLs, no doll 
get rumani then you can sub her out
Red shoe Pilgrim when? 
He shouls be glad im his rival and missin 341,361,381 and 401 boost
but rumani is burst I
yeah you're gonna need to rethink it
@keen vapor where are you at now. I just reach 25-19 I think. 
Will try to mald again when I have some motivation
example: @tight lantern
this would be SR ani-less
xmaiden and laplace are interchangable, balance them out as needed for CP purposes
You aren't 341+? 
yeah I'm trying to switch things around in that sheet, but can't create two 2RL teams
they're already 2 2RL teams tho
scarlet team is on 92% to 2RL, considering you running scar-jack, scarlet counters (s2) + jackal feed (in p1 and p5) you'll get to 2RL
pardon my many questions, but then why on the pic you posted it says 3 RL on the Scarlet team?
it's not accounting feed you see on the right because it's enemy dependant
although 8% feed is obtainable even with minus feed
Nope, 339
He 412, enjoying the good life
If 92% maybe try to get to 93% and move 2 links to p1+2
it doesn't matter, would opponent really risk running 2.5RL noah for that? it's RNG
and even if, they still have to run noah, so the card is played
Not that much RNG. Rossana could kill it from being 2rl easily

you're assuming everyone has rosanna built up
no one has rosanna in my shards
there you go
even 2RL would lose meaning with a rosanna anyway... useless argument
link breaks at 1RL
I just want to stay in challenger lol, people dropping me to diamond after Trina dropped, I'm rebuilding my team but admittedly I don't have that deep pvp arcane knowledge
go with those for 24-48hrs and see how it goes, skilled opponents on equal investiment generally should always win attack attempts
I'll use this in the defense team, let's see if he can win easily again
if they're not, it's because they're doing a mistake somewhere
what defense can do at best is force them to do mistakes
but that's the most of it, unless ofc you're way ahead of them in levels and investiment (typical for whales)
And it's all calculated. You can feed 10-19 and kill scar jack easily with 2.5-3 RL Noah.
Or if scarjack with Blanc you could feed 10-19 bullet in 2rl and wipe with HelmT/xmaiden 2rl nuking link

That's why people put p1+2 linked
Hard to cheese the feed
...
@tawny kestrel 4 at a time at most
Alr i wrote such a long msg ๐ญ๐ญ
what team could i use to beat myamoto, 2nd is my current team. I dont have rumani trina rh or helmT yet
this is rookie right?
Ok so i need 3 pvp teams for special arena im diamond 8 on it started this game 12 days ago
And need one pvp team for rookie arena
Please give me the teams according to my roster as I don't know much about pvp
Help is really appreciated โค๏ธ
yes
To beat Miyamoto Musashi you should use Hozoin Inshun I guess. 
get out.
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no rumani or treasure
sanis yes, trina no
SR anis?
are u fighting a scarlet team or a sanis team 
oh normal anis, i could do although not really invested
rh blanc could probably blast through noise and sanis
and the rest of their team if ur rh is built enough
for starters, throw jackal in synchro
here, you can pick your poison railtracer
thanks makes it easier
does this beat their sanis team for u?
idk how built ur rh and blanc r but mine usually eats noise links for breakfast
no rh

oh
your team on the left
aaaand no RH... nvm
now i see why you were struggling against this one
Emilia? SBS? Cindy?
i feel like im being trolled here for not having RH 
i do have all 3
spent some jims and climbed back to challenger 5 lol, now I close the game and I will see what happens tomorrow morning
give it time. youll get her eventually
Okie i got her yesterday
You mind giving me 3 teams and one team for rookie arena
ok go for this copium version
yeah taking a look
Just do the common 3rl SBS team then
Noah+Noise+Biscuit+SBS+Rapu/Centi/Rumani/Tia

opponent is 2RL tho? you want them to facetank it?
isnt he fighting the sanis team
Not like ASS can wipe.

Okie tysm โค๏ธ
The nikke community so far has been rlly supportive, in the past week and a half everyone helps you no questions asked its rlly nice โค๏ธ
glad you didn't run in any troll yet 
Fr tho
Btw i got the meta team in juz 6 days of playing ๐
Got RapiRH Red Hood Crown in 17 pulls then naga in like 30 after that then finally got asuka W.
Lucks been insane lol
reiT naga alice drake jackal
rrh pmaid rh anis n102
auto
Could also go with 2rl Emilia team.
Emi+Blanc+Crown+HelmT(vigor)+Jackal.
With Cindy we could go 4-5rl Rumani
Rumani+Blanc+Biscuit+Cindy+Naga/ slow Regen some flex
yeah that's a very good starting account
Many way to beat 2rl ASS team that doesn't even have biscuit.
ass
My luck in other gacha games is also insane
If you've played hsr before you can see from this

he's really trying to get out of the door
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true efficiency if anything
this failed, but idk if thats cause blanc doesnt have alot of investment
did emilia get indom?
i think so
as in she casted and got to nuke?
i dont she got to nuke, their health didnt budge
Use my version instead. Bruh. I provided you 3 sure kill way I beat that team many times already. 
a video would've really helped, noah shouldn't catch an emi nuke on same or slower speed 
no helmT, rumani or trina atm on top of me already mentioning my lack of RH
Then you could go for 3rl SBS 
i'll use my last ticket and try record it
nah hold on
if anything we know you're doing something wrong, let's check your stats
Noah+Noise+Biscuit+SBS+Jackal
unbuffed SBS can't usually kill a noise noah jackal team
@swift mango we already saw it earlier today
Well, yeah, but same thing to Emi+Blanc low invest. Can't go over Noise
emi is the lowest hp, only one under 2mill, i dont have alot of charge speed so is that the case?
Emi+Blanc+Crown+Centi+Jackal.
Go with this. No need HelmT
That stand a chance, Blanc alone won't be enough.
who's linked with that?
shrodinger blanc/crown/centi link?
Emi+4 defender, who care who linked? Emi with get blanced.

You could often beat 2rl ASS with this team.
Crown/Blanc+B1 defender+Biscuit+(flex to make it 4-5rl)+Cindy.
It's profound knowledge from Merry.

He beat it with
Crown+PurePunzel+Biscuit+Cindy+Noir even
PurePunzel zero investment
just about worked 
Seeing this I would assume Blanc alone wasn't enough.
Crown buff barely made it enough.
blanc is low invest so i guess she is the problem then?
How much is low?
no t9, 4 4 4 and 0sr doll
Emi+Blanc is like Unbuffed SBS, can't beat Noise heal normally unless you out invested them.
well she is t9 but pre ol
Lv7 s3 won't make much difference here
OL only for CP pad. Her skill 3 doesn't care about her stat.
Emi on the other hand need lv10 s2, lv7 s3 and SR5 4OL.
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Do you think I have any chance with this?
@tropic summit you get smth?
sorry what do you mean? 
no
teams are right here @tawny kestrel
Wb the third one ๐ค
auto, just stuff it with whoever is leftover on highest CP
as you lack further utilities to make them burst within 3RL or 4RL
better to just raise its stats to the max to force opponent in deficit
Oki tysm dude rlly appreciate it
you welcome
FYI this is deficit:
if opponent CP is 15% less than your team, they get hit with a massive stat debuff
that's how whale and people who've progressed a lot can defend themselves from lower opponents
in your case, since your great starting account, you could potentially defend yourself out of CP agaisnt opponents who're progressing more slowly and with lesser income than you would on higher outpost level
Ooo alr bte what team is best for rookie arena as it only needs 1 team
And u mind if i add u to ask u bout queries is have later on?
you can keep asking here, as I don't use DMs 
plus it's better as someone can reply to you in case i'm not here
Oki ๐๐ผ
wait, you can get early pulls in HSR?
no way
Yep im built dif
My pulls on other banners also insane
Dude i started ZZZ recently i got this 50 pity
Ok dude tysm for all the help
Oh dude that hurts ๐ญ
tell me about it
Damn
also 50 pity into the next one already...
I wish u luck be built dif
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light cone one no better really
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Like my first 10 pull was a 5 star look at departure warp
so across everything my earliest one was welt at 26
and my next earliest one was that herta at 53
Man hope u get more luck
I won like all the 50/50's though
My earliest was 1 then 5 then 7 ๐
Mines top 0.2%
the duality of luck, I am simultaneously top 0.5% for rate up luck, whilst being bottom 2.73% for 5 *
Yea thas nice
@tropic summit it's finally time to test out my scar team and see if anyone hits 
My average 5* pull is 40 pity ๐
need help with teams, my t3 can defeat his but my t1 cant. T2 is just there to lose
my nikkes
he need to read units skills
oh put scarlet?
that T2
helmt? 
anis at P2 also risky
no treasure
common scarlet comp is scarlet / blanc / redhood / flex / jackal
p4 is safer so put anis there if you running her
oh u dont have cow
so like this now any other additions to add?
just dont run anis on that comp
LOL yeah i couldnt really make any team its just there to die
blanc indom goes to lowest hp, so just pls dont run anis (sr: lower base stats)
technically u can mess around with vigor/gear/etc to mess with anis hp but just why bother
flex clipRL/clipSG
need low atk though not to steal link
or your scarlet needs to have high enough atk
to confirm, u dont have cow?
no cow
whatever her name is
i sent my whole list
ssrapi win against T2
Trina ^

btw the fixes for scar team are more general it may not be the best team to actually run against the opponent
you should lay out the opponent units in the burst sheet so you can get a feel for what RL they are
this is in terms of power
scar debut 
anyway
t1 taunt+biscuit or outspeed
t2 taunt+biscuit or outspeed
t3 outspeed or match speed with blanc/noah
should i put biscuit for the flex over anis?

it is trina my good sir
I still need to level up my trina's equips tho
she looks like a cow, she is cow
indeed, let's petition for rename this very moment ๐ค

would this work

they are 3 x 3RL teams
anis and biscuit are the same in that team against T1, it doesn't matter, now with blanc feed on scarlet you burst before
just moran+biscuit+s.anis t2 lol
so what does this mean
yeah i dont use moran
I think biscuit + defender nullifies a lot of T2 though
because of how SBS works and how biscuit works
biscuit+moran/noah eats t1/t2 alive because the primary dps on both are ST/DD
i was just banking on t1 and t3 because i dont really have units for t2
you can swap what team attacks what though
you need to win 2 matches 3rd doesn't matter
yeah
you analyse enemy teams + decide which 2 to attack + decide what to use in each team
you can't just have general 3 attack teams and hit the go button it can fail if enemy counters you
@tropic summit
Tysm dude am diamond 3 now ๐ฅ๐ฅ
Btw as u can see i have lots of tokens too should i keep saving up?
noice keep going, ch8-ch9-ch10 next 
before my t1 dies cuz my anis and blanc were in wrong spots so they just died first
my t3 beats his
yeah it's because on t3 you catch the scarlet nuke with Noah
bro, you can
you seem to have used your free tries for today (2/2) and no more tokens tho ๐ค
yeah
Dude i am everywhere ๐
the current pvp state is really bad
the reward of doing well in progress and good starting account
but re-positioning of your team 1 may not win that still
Yea ill continue tmrw
Fr ๐ฅ๐ฅ
hmm? no you need to decide what team attacks what
hmmm then idk what to do cuz his t2 is pretty strong i think so i dont think i should go for t2
if you have 3 general teams then you could get hard-countered because you were too lazy to swap which team attacks what
the counter to t1 and t2 is the same
especially at the top end challenger ranks
but i cant really use moran so idk what to replace for her
Dude i can recruit liter should I?
I wonder if blanc / sbs / biscuit comp works instead there?
probably should, you can use liter in a lot of content
even more so if you don't have a CDR B1
no you shouldn't you should save them until they expire
yeah get a liter, you want one of each anyway
2rl cindy outspeed or moran/noah+biscuit
t1 and t2 counter is the same. choose one ^
they can't move noah out of t3 they die there
but then what do i do abt t3?
2rl cindy maybe
time to anime and 
peace folks, yet another monday approaches 
Or how bout i save up until i have 600 ๐ค
I might get her naturally and can mlb alice later and mby naga or liter
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where is ur drink
g'night! 
Hmmm ima wait 289 days ๐ฃ๏ธ๐ฃ๏ธ
I mean Noah + Cindy are on T3 so you can't swap them out lol
or you then need another solution for T3
doesnt matter, t3 is a free win
1buff 2rl scarlet
kk 7am here time for me to nap lol
my noise and noah dies but noise gets revived and b2 is centi on burst for the t3 fight
I think he left can anyone else answer this?
challenger rank means nothing, you can play for 1 month and get challenger or you can be a pvp player in D1~3 who can't reach higher ranks because cp diff against whales
you can save your 600 points to aid in breaking the wall all at once
anyway, 1buff 2rl scarlet will not wipe you, scarlet does not stack enough s1 and she misses the second atk buff
or you can use one copy for liter and reserve the rest
frankly I don't think it will matter that much - you get another free alice on the selector at 141 anyway
but my moran isnt invested at all i cant use her
i can move my noah then
Eh ima save up it gon be satisfying
if you got rapi as b1 you don't really need liter for now
oh ok ill use rapi
not you lol ๐
oh LMAO
in general - its usually not bad idea to have a liter still (sr needs 5 teams, ur needs 3)
and anyway sometimes u may want your rrh as dps - in which case liter is ur best b1
Mhm
so i would contemplate having a liter still
yeah I mean I said worth getting a liter as well, you have 5 more exchanges afterwards, just don't spam them until you know what you need to break the wall
p1 cindy 
Need help with SP arena defense
Ok so Jackal feed is definitely the difference maker
How would I beat this team, rookie arena.
19.3mil with Rapunzel vs 20.2mil with Liter
Enemy HP range is 19-22m HP unbuffed
So with Noise buff it doesn't matter, still need both hits to kill
hmm? I don't see jackal in either video ๐
The context is comparing against previous videos that had Jackal
but your cindy comp is full rl, did they feed that much
I got 100 pulls so I went for Trina, took me 70 (oof) but it's done
just the 1 copy and a random Sakura dupe on the way. Keep getting dupes would like some new units as missing quite a few still
Gotta make sure god comp is tuned properly so p1 noise always taunts pre-burst
I can make Bscar god reach 2rl with 1 quantum (prob not needed) and no cs against any scar Blanc, even with Rosa
That should work. Either 2-2.5RL Nuke, or slower nuke
I just found this nice site, what does this mean when character portrait has 17% in a lower left corner?
Charge speed from memory
HOLY SHEET, TRINA IS AWESOME
Aye
Almost lose lol
thats pretty normal for a blanc emilia team
the scarriest part was blanc's hp more than the end
because ur indom for like another 2s
by 2 i mean like 4
My blanc almost die before ult lol
Can i change centi to dog nikke?
For deffender indom
Feed
wait yea u might feed too much
bruh not even a minute lol
do u look at his "last online"

if he hits back immediately 24/7 i would consider pressing that bell icon 
how to do that?
u click on him and go to his guild page

i never realize you can click that for some reason
stalkerrtt
people playing a booty game pvp and suddenly we know their work sleep and life schedules on an excel 
from monitoring "last online"
Someone in the rookie arena did that to me lol
We kept trading, even if neither of us became number one
The only thing i found out is who is terminally online in my bracket
there a few who are always online no matter what time of day i login
Seemingly no work or school
maybe he wanted to become a pro so he keep that grind mindset
Some ppl take pvp in this too seriously lol it's a damn idle game
hello there comrade 

he just has it figured out, cant figure out his life schedule if no life
500iq plays
so that is why i seem to remember your name from somewhere
I didnt know we can stalk โlast onlineโ
time to start tracking 
btw u should know three of the other top 5 are friends. No point attacking ourselves lol. They just pick on us.
That's why I'm stuck at 4.
Imagine seeing someone create a chart of your login times 
Add all the relevant ppl in ur bracket to ur block list, now every time u log in u check ur block list to see when did they last come online, eventually u can work out their daily routine

true pvp. Knowing game mechanics can only take you so far
If u're a stalker like kosmiu u can excel spreadsheet each guy's daily routine too
so thats why i cant stay on top 3
i can defeat any of them but it wont last long
yup lol, they don't attack each other, except to let their friends back to top 3.
u can block in game? 
Yea

There not much for me to keep track since all the ppl in my bracket are normal people except 2 terminally online people

how about we pick only 1 person?
tell you what, if you get above me without attacking me, I won't attack you. As along as I'm not below 6.
just go attack them, I'll leave you alone.
that is not fun.
how about we pick a single person together?
that guy with same Chinese character, lets focus on him
I aleady do attack him.
If you attack me I attack you. Easy as that.
And you know what the other guys are aleady doing. They're all friends.
okay i wont attack you again, lets just focus on 1 person for now on
just dont take over if any of us get to 3rd
just tag me if you need me to kick him again lol
pvp collusion in real time 
rheax joining the rat gang now? Mapping out all ur rivals' daily schedules
We are not on same bracelet right?
Nah different, no worries 
Im in ur bracket too 
Watch ur back
What your IGN?
||deeznuts haha got'em||
True PvP would be SAO Gungale Online
Not that I would ever endorse that of course
But yeah, after doing a bunch of testing, while Trina isn't meta breaking, the fact that she's universally useful as a burst gen battery but also acts as very strong buffers for Scarlet and Cinderella makes me recommend MLB for her, C7 if you're a PvP nut whale like me
1 copy minimum if you're F2P
Iโm considering getting trina lmb but my gems low 
but cuz my scar soda trina 2rl now can stun noah cuz soda got taunt I need more cp in this team
Being doing it even before knowing about blocking. But only work if you have limited range of who could hit you. In a sweaty enough bracket where 3+ guys can hit you at C3 (below 2 whale) and combined online time 24/7, it doesn't matter much. 
In an easier bracket where you could hold C1-3 easily, it also doesn't matter much.

Who knew the day would come for pvp soda meta 
She isn't reliable when you attack but could screw over the attacking team. 
Stun is meta? Privaty back? 
Nah, it's just coincidentally we need a defensive burst 1 in Scar-Trina team and Soda fit the bill for DEF team.
2RL Noah counter ig
I would like to try this DEF team, what's the comp?
She has high chance to suicide to Scarlet and ended up doing nothing though.
Scarlet+Trina+Soda+Centi+Jackal

thank you, what cubes?
@quick lake @swift mango can I cope
How did splitting jackal away from scar trina worked out in the end?
yeah, got chance to win
put soda p2 if she got taunt she will stun taunter which is noah
yep it worked
I had some cp problems so this is what I managed to pull
noah will taunt random target skill?
same interaction with cin random?
Cindy's attacks not tauntable
She never left 
I don't, I still plan to run Scarlet with Jackal, but that's unrelated to Trina who is a B2
sadly I can't MLB Trina or even close to it atm, I'll have to just keep her in normal wishlist longer term and get more copies that way
Better start hoarding those normal tix and social points 
can someone help me outw ith the team
alright let me rearrange
Need to treasure her ye
no noah.
guys for pvp what skill lvl moran needs?
or ol moran armor is good enough with usual 4/4/4?
depends how rich in book are u lol
4 4 4 -> 4 7 7 -> 4 7 10
Scarlet Blanc RH Grave Jackal
Tia Biscuit Cindy Rumani XMaiden
Crown Centi ScarletBS Liter Anis or just CP pad
You might want to get Helm Treasure and invest some stuff to Rapunzel and low cp unit above just to avoid deficit pvp
what's your full box and current def like?
10/10/10 
current def
my box
helm treasure?
all treasure phase 3 except miranda
wow u have helm treasure and u didnt use her 
also helm is 10/9/7 @graceful grotto
it was old one with trina instead of SR anis
that why i asking to cook new one
oh i also use moran in my attack team
@graceful grotto
ight
yuri you here too
you can try
- Noah-Noise-Cinderella-tHelm-Drake - 2.5RL
- Scarlet-Emilia-Trina-tLaplace-Rumani - 2RL
- Rei.TN-Blanc-Centi-Red Hood-Jackal - 3RL -> can be fed to 2.5RL
wat
nothing
what rei TN is?
Rei2
but she weak
Rei2 burst level?
her burst is one of the highest screen wipe in pvp
Can do single buffed ReiT here, swap out RH for xMaiden probably
can considered blanc-sanis-biscuit-centi-jackal if that team is not doing enough or have cp deficit
that's some solid OL and skill for someone who's 'weak' lmao
btw its from left to right, right?
oh I am, hoping they add Trina to the wishlist by anni time
pull her now kewk
I got a copy but took me 70 pulls
not got many left, won't chase more here for now
one copy is enough
yeah ๐
done
her buffs are not tied to her own stats aside from her heal (from her max HP)
i'll just wishlist etc for more dupes later
U want siren mlb too 
I do in fact want that
my scarlet is not so strong btw
I'm really hoping next ord banners are skips...
Trina 1/7/4 should be good enough
Inb4.... more pvp units 
1 dupe, 7 more copies for core 7, 4 copies for now for MLB?
4/5/4 is the best i can do rn 
my scarlet not so strong btw
@graceful grotto is this good enough?
Should still be enough imo 
should be enough
burst maybe to 10 later in the game or when we have an electric SR coming up
my scarlet line is horrendus though
take your time
scarlet normally scares people off anyway in pvp, even if not the best investment
i need to get atk on SW, also elemental and ammo on asukaW before i can work on sbs 
pvp scar doesnt really need investment nowadays (cause trina). Can get away with 0% atk tbh
u using asuka.W for kraken?
your priority is interesting
i can't even destroy opponent's decoy with my 2 buff cindy
22% deficit 
#questions message
this team deal more damage than alice SBS
nice
my sbs asuka.w is not dealing as much
i assume ur sbs has high charge speed?
also what unit for quantum cube
@graceful grotto
is ur emilia on bastion/resilience?
adj
bastion and resi for pve mostly
It's 1 buff and a very small one. HelmT only buff post nuke dmg
then maybe u can consider like centi/noah/rumani/emilia
oh really?
because i running out of manu gear, also besides mirror and kraken i cant get to stages 7 
New MA cereal 
wait you're 545 synchro tho, u should be able to stage 7 krak
mc is annoying though ngl so i cant judge lmao
that the problem, i cant phase 7 ultra consistently 
oh ultra not kraken
i am working to full clear kraken
hence why u wanna push snow white i supposed haha
btw what other 2 in here?
^
No amount of buffs on your Cindy gonna make her break decoy and hit enemy cindy
And if they bursted midway they could have just refreshed it
because my RH steal this miranda buff for SW
Roll atk off redhood 
so that is why i can't break the decoy even with my 5 nikke survive
literally his cindy auto killed all my team๐
THis work for Emilia?
i still need atk on red hood
?
what
i plan to make this team
that's actually expected, indom emi sacrifices whole team just to enable a powerful nuke possibly 1hitko or very heavily damaging enemy team, then finish off with her post nuke AoE
the whole point is making it in time to indom emi, the rest doesn't matter
think of it as a glass cannon on borrowed time, if it helps
mirandaT become more viable than drake because now we have enough burst gen char
that still enough to wipe ultra stall teams? ๐ค
Doubt so 
Allows Moran to proc as well 
Maybe Miranda + Blanc
would top team win this matchup?
win
you sure? wouldn't cindy nuke be denied by noah? they fixed snapshotting ๐ค
the only other team i could atk is blanc-emilia-centi-rh-thelm and i kinda dont want to do that
i have scarjack beating their moran-sanis on the other one
the blanc emi centi rh helm is a 2RL emi nuke, why are you scared of it?
blanc indoms emi and i could get outlasted
not sure
i'd feel more confident with that one than cindy 2RL into a 3RL noah where you'll lose your main source of dmg
it'd end up like this my team on top
nah you don't run 2RL cindy into that
run noah on 1RL slower and you absorb emi nuke
i think changing cindy to sanis will do with this team
@plucky charm example of catching emi nuke on 1RL slower
Rumani in that team isnโt needed against god scalter when sheโs in p2. 
in your case you going to need sustain to survive post emi nuke, helmT + rapu + noise is a ton of healing
i was also thinking blanc would indom emi or something with the random damage and it would just outlast me
an alternative would be 2RL rosanna if you've her invested
i dont have her invested at all rip
got Trina railtracer, can't build for now but I will get around to it
I also beat chapter 17 hard boss so I'm progressing 18 for now, up to 69 core dust/hour (nice!)
does rapunzel use heal cube?
temperance on noah
vigor on noise, rapu, biscuit
resil on helmT
if we wanna nitpick for taunt priority, place noise in p1 if noise CS% is lower than noah
viceversa, if noah CS% is lower than noise place her in p1
this is due to the fact that taunt is an overwrite kind of application, as in the last to be applied overwrites previous taunt
if noah/noise are slower than the counterpart, they'll take taunt priority
ideally you want noah to be taunting so she can maximize biscuit invulnerability, even post nuke
in case noah is taunt priority:
noah noise biscuit helmT rapunzel
in case noise is taunt priority:
noise noah biscuit helmT rapunzel
i tried it, the matchup was defeated
did you record or can you elaborate?

i didnt record but what i saw was helm nuked rh and i couldnt outheal the emilia damage when noahs invuln expired
so you caught nuke and they still wiped you after invulnerability?
what it looked like was the entire 4 units beside noah all got one hit
might have been too quick maybe
ye

2.5RL would be already too fast unfortunately
you can tweak ur team to ensure you're still 3RL
could remove rapu and add a cindy
its cs on noah and bisc might be 2quick
that's pretty fast indeed 
๐ค
might work as cindy is gonna be very tanky and still having sustain from helmT, stalling from noah
do i still want to put thelm in the middle instead of cindy to nuke
nvm i see thelm hp regen
mhm
could work depending on cindy alone surviving post nuke dmg, but i'd feel more safe with sustain
eh that's good
for curiosity, how did you fare post nuke, did you lose some of the nikke?
i guess biscuit probably died, noah likely too, maybe helmT cindy and RRH lived? 
no everyone survived
looks like my thelm nuked their rh and then blancs indom went to their thelm
oh lmao
if it works ig
lol
enemy might be running vigor on emi resulting in helmT having less HP unless emi gets enough splash dmg 
kinda looks like b/c of the placement their helm and blanc get hit more than emi
yep, SR on attack are shooting p5
your helmT nukes highest atk% (RH) but shoots p5 (helmT)
if emi has more hp because you've little splash (noah+biscuit) then helmT becomes lowest HP and you mess up their indom
beautiful... 
phenomenal
thanks again
Clearing ch26 now... campaign being easy forcing me to clear at higher deficit....
@keen vapor I see you got to 26-16 now... Still not catching up to you yet. Need to recharge now. 
This reminded me of the time when I springed to ch28 after blueing mother whale... This time I only near blue so maybe only to ch27. 
Hey all, been a while since I did anything PvP so I was wondering if anyone could help me update my 2 defence teams? I've got almost every nikke so far so I'm wondering if there's anyone I should replace or rework these teams entirely
44% deficit and finally got 85 cd/h
@tropic summit
Now clear MC too. 
You can do it!

You're 381 as well? 
363 
But I think our CP should be around the same then.

How your CP looks like?
662k with Alice 
You're crazy 
..... Tbf my Crown has very bad lines (CP wise) 
While my Blanc is top 9th CP with SR5 doll
She's only 1k apart from Crown but one has maxed skills and the other has burst at level 7
It really setups the difference
Reroll OL n cp pad. Just fill all line with whatever Stat u 1st get
U'll get like easy 20~30k cp per nikke, thats how i deficit my stalker
After 2 weeks of daily attacks, he since stop attacking me and gave up 
I kinda miss him now
omg, its here 
Delay your Noah burst, n his Scarlet nuke?
This exact setup was discussed exactly yesterday or 2 days ago
Some lurker is stealing our team ideas!!!

Do u happen to have the vid for this match?
Honestly its not a bad idea, now im thinking of putting Soda on my 3rd SP defense team with Trina/Scarlet
It's a gamble,I'm guaranteed lost if my burst 1 got stun.
Or B2 Noah got stun, no invuln against Scarlet buff nuke
If my Rosanna can shot first it's my win.
rosanna it
But if rosanna got stun, I'm lost.
This is prob a 2RL
Does rosanna proc first, or u get stunned first
I'm 2RL But I'm got stun first.
Hmm, looks like opponent got cs% lines on his units
This team should counter. Maybe 90% pass rate 
use sac instead of helmT
lol
What is the IGN/UnionName of who you are attacking?
yes please, we want to know 
It's SEA
you going stalking in blabla? ๐ฎ
Ok, so it was that


Merry, stalk me 
At least its not a Baguette
omw to build soda
Phew I'm safe
I'm just hearing beam attack
time to build Soda
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
MERRY YOU DID THIS TO ME
use sac instead of helmT << sac?
lv1 nikke
Darn, same 2 people still beat my defense with those teams as before. I beat them back easily but not sure what else to do that would have the biggest impact to help that. Any thoughts? ๐ค
Ok , It's work.
what level is the sac sir
try a synchroed but nude nikke next time?
Maybe Scar getting blocked by Noah and Emi not killing enemy with only one buffer
My OW also nude.
u can try giving level but i'm not recommend it
Winnable? (T2 throwaway)
Yeah, while watching an attack run with the same teams, the Emi team struggled the most followd by the Scarlet team. Emi team charge speed and damage even if she gets there, and with Scarlet sometimes xanne dies before burst. Would be cool if we could see defense battles in the log xD
Just not sure what to do about it.
Same. My crown is pretty terrible CP wise. 
think my crown is actually OK (but hardly amazing)
Oh, does anyone know how we get the golden sp arena tokens for extra tries? Tried searching but I'm not sure how they are acquired.
Oh yes, B2 dying is the reason I invested tempering cube
Wym same you bakemono

Only Noah has that one on my team I think and while its low, her team is solid
She is all the way down here even with SR15, 11-12 lines and 101010.
Gemming
you have 12 lines
Ah welp
My lapT only has 10 lines. My Scarlet 9 lines. The number of lines doesn't matter much when the value in low...
i think the next treasure will shift the speed meta pvp- which get its peak at trina release
maybe the privaty with 10s stun idk


SugarT gonna have helmT Regen and Scarlet wipe

Help plz
Team 1: if noise isn't killed sure, otherwise, lose.
T2: sure Emi probably ded but winning doubtful.
T3: win
Could easily do 2-3rl Noah+ biscuit to beat the first team though....
What does that mean
still losing and getting out of the top 10 when I'm sleeping 
Hello everyone
My crown is really infinity gem sink.... Just spent 8 rocks on her just to reduce her cp by 3000
Can anyone arrange 3 teams for me to play sp arena?
I'm not very good at this ;-;
Yeah 
Somehow it cant stand a lower sync dude

Need backup later then
How much is lower synch?
What OL lines are you aiming for on your crown? Iโm thinking about working on her lines now
Just anything high tier really.
Give her Max ammo, atk or Def
I'm trying to off CS and Cdmg for her on the way.
Mostly about ammo
She doesn't need ammo.
Maybe Ele will help her to deal some dmg on Iron weak stage when buffed by RH.
Tiny little bit do but not much really
She is just there to provide buff. That's her main join
Shes a mg so yea give her some ammo at least help her not to reload so often tho
I think 2 line should be fine
She is the mg that needs it the less thanks to her s1.
Other MG having the excuse of "maybe not go with Crown" but crown can't go without herself
But the s2
Some people save the charge timing but that doesn't mean she need ammo. Healing she always goes with teammates who heal her.
She doesnt need it but ideally we could give her ammo
I think its a good one beside atk and ele line
Yes but I am trying to improve her CP and lock Ammo s1 is expensive. No doing that sht. 
I already got 4 CS+Cdmg I need to roll off and it's not funny. 

I remembered spent so many rock on crown back then and the results were terrible. 2nd-3rd lines tier 1-2 CS, cdmg. Couldn't be worse
think my crown overloads are OK didn't cost me very much yet
some useless stats but some OK ones as well
Red Hood for me. Gods, she ate like probably 50 rocks alone with just "ok" stats to show for it.
AND NOW.
THIS.
F......G.
HELM!!! AND HER STUPID DOLL!!! AGGHH!!!
There is no useless stat on your crown. Only CS and Cdmg are useless one.

charge damage does something?
either way pretty happy with her for CP padding, was just a small number of rocks used to get some extra lines
C.dmg is useless sure I didn't see that but at least it's not tier 1 c.dmg.

ah wasn't sure if you meant crit or charge dmg
after so many trial error, defense finally work
oh you hitting me LOL
finally get to chat with you ig
so the sample vid of me hitting avesta was my recording here 
Same team?

so it was not any lurker but avesta is fighting me in same server
i kinda wanna see it
so avesta is hitting me after I go to sleep yesterday but got rng so I was still 1st place in rookie 
soda clutch? 
le stun gacha already worked uh
the plot thickens, imagine if he scrolls up and finds the Ade post 
also Avesta is 3rd in my sp arena too 
I'm 2nd right now
at least rookie doesn't matter and can have fun messing around with comps
would be curious to see the Ade counter video
but sorry I think I have my duty to go 541 this UR
the gap might widens a lot 
my union not even challenger
Watch out though. Your highest HP can still get stun.

And it could be your Noah.
I'm forced to cook this soda comp
thanks to Avesta hitting me a lot lately tbh
Hit him back.
Okay I deleted my advice 
I used to hit everyone at maximum -1 rank cuz I get 1st place
but avesta starts hitting me a lot
but I'm fine with that if you enjoy pvp that is 
same logic in my pvp bracket, which seems enacted by everyone else too
He did it anyway
generally ppl won't hit the same person more than once unless you're stuck in p1 with a ton of points
Well, one guy just keep appearing on the top of my list. And I just quick battle him...
He isn't C1.

some people hit me multiple times so I hit them back multiple times, we have this cat and mouse game going on
I'm surprised he could bring a level 1 against you and not deficited.
cuz soda and trina is new to me
put in Crow instead
I'm surprised avesta at that level have all team close cp to me tbh
Crow is clearly the best pvp unit just people don't run her for other reasons
I need to invest in raids and campaign too 
crow is a multi-purpose unit
Crow Treasure for SSS tier. 
I have the same issues btw ๐
I updated my sheet a bit to track stuff
got most of the skills I need for my campaign squad now, crown last 10 will be today after reset. I've still got a few more to do there but I could finish up skills on the scarlets for example after that
thank you chefs for the teams you cooked for me yesterday
the teams suprised the sh*t out of me
1 question tho should i mega invest campaign team then invest into pvp team or try and do both?
You could do both by mega invest into Red Hood and HelmT.
Winnable?
dont have them i meant units like rumina or privaty or jackal
Mega invest in campaign imo. Push further -> more cd -> more sync -> easier pvp
pvp units are relatively cheap. 4/4/4 4OLs
oh i thought i had to go for 10/10/10s with min maxed OLs
so i just keep on doing what i have been doing
ty
Would this work? @tropic summit
ah yeah thanks man, just saw this btu why is there two blanc?
we got that sweet cloning going on again ๐
yeah agree with others you can push campaign mostly, though some units do benefit both
and if you have a weaker team you can bulk it up a bit between things if you get the chance, by doing basic OL's on the pvp units
I tend to prioritise OL to main team, my main issue is I haven't taken the gear to +5 OL on the campaign teams yet - I've been putting gear xp to my pvp units instead
ols have to wait since i cant stage 9 all interception ex bosses and i seem to be quite unlucky at getting those damn rocks but i can use skill books for now
thats super expensive
you want to clear chapter 22 for AI tbh
will make the most difference to gear OL and campaign team power
me stuck at ch21
Team 3 is too fast, replace Centi with Crown
Hmm, I think I will stop my campaign for now until I'm done fixing my crown CP.
At 26-15 now so you are still safe. 
You are 26-16 1 stage more. 
With extra 20 levels 
I was stupid tbh... Should have just reroll attribute and ignore rolling off CS, Cdmg lines...

8 rocks waste for nothing.
I don't get how it says attacker on P5 then says P4 or P2 attacker
Which part?
Team recom for Rockie and Special Arena, Atk and Def
One attacker
Yeah which part? Rosanna at what?
Rossana P3
If Attacker is on P5
Then it will hit whoever on P1 and that Attacker on P5
If P1 unit is already dead by the time Ros burst, it will target whoever on P4 and the Attacker unit on P5
Now if for some reason P1 and P4 units are dead too when Rosanna bursts, she will hit P2 and the Attacker on P5 then
No need to question if P1 P2 P4 dead when enemy Rosanna bursts, there are only 2 remaining targets left 
So, in this case, Helm will die right?
Rosanna will burst on her coz she is the sole attacker
And since this sole attacker Helm is at P5, the other target will be P1 then which is Noah
P1 Attacker
As for if she will die
Well its matter of investments between enemy Rosanna and your Helm 
should be



