pvp-arena

[eager mountain]

woah none of the hits went thru

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1349974851758067732/1218582560406503454.webp

should be cuz of 3rl cs doing more and extra round of cs does it

[quick lake]

Cindy has become 🚮

On defence at least

[spiral onyx]

It's weird cause Scarlet gets blocked too

[spiral onyx]

Well I'm also thinking mainly in the context of CA

If you have a team that forces either 2RL Scarlet Jackal or Noah, that's not bad

[quick lake]

Probably cause of double jackal feed..

[eager mountain]

they are 2rl after 16feeds+scar feed >= 30 feeds + scar b2 triggering twice would do

[primal charm]

how ts even possible

this noah must be <2.5 rl

but this cindy team dind feed much

[worthy knoll]

Their Noise burst when your Trina was clicked in that Scar team, that lightning fast Rapu 3rd shot was enough to full the gauge.

While for the Rei team, the heal numbers of Noise only showed up 0.3s of Rei's face already showing up. Their Rapu third shot, was not enough to full their gauge 🤔

Assuming opponent didn't change anything on their cube loadout, I guess its their Scarlet S2 rng? Which is weird coz MG should proc it more

[swift mango]

Probably scarlet feed more due to counter

[primal charm]

seem like their team have lighting spd cs here

[worthy knoll]

The enemy Rapu definitely has high CS

[swift mango]

I mean, his rei team was not getting blocked. They should feed the enemy about the same number of bullet. The difference is that Scarlet counter while ReiA don't.

[worthy knoll]

I was replying to Jolteon above

[primal charm]

ts just too weird

[worthy knoll]

Its not the counter, its simply MG has low feed from just the 1st RL

Compared to Scars 1st RL

After 1 RL, both of them just hit unlinked Noah

Yeah its 10 hits of an AR vs 5 hits of an MG

[primal charm]

got it

keripochan pls do couple more of attemps this case in the future

[swift mango]

Well, a few counters could make it hit 10 bullet differences rather than 5.

But I guess it's impossible in 2rl with Scarlet p2.

My bad.

[worthy knoll]

Then count how many counters did that Keripos Scarlet did on enemies's linked unit.. coz I only saw 1 on Noise

[swift mango]

🏃‍♂️ 💨

[swift mango]

What is the real SG in this chart.

[worthy knoll]

I don't know coz I never used SG. You can ask Gatrix, he was the one who made the ammo count chart

[swift mango]

Does he mean SG fire 7.2 shots at 3rl and not 6?

[worthy knoll]

Maybe something 24 pellets in actual instead of just 20 well not sure

[swift mango]

So 3.5rl with SG is actually 3rl not 3.5rl?

[worthy knoll]

You can open the chart before you make assumptions on the numbers

[swift mango]

Well, that's the chart said.

[worthy knoll]

Its only different to SG numbers on 1 RL and then 3 RL onwards

Again like I said open the chart first before you make a fool of yourself again, you only saw the 1 RL numbers

[swift mango]

Why 3RL not 3 times 1RL then

[worthy knoll]

I'm not the one you should ask that but the creator of the document. I only think SG is 1 every 0.5. didn't think much more deep than that

[swift mango]

I would be thinking that as well then .

Thanks

[plucky charm]

can top team beat bottom team?

[eager mountain]

rip helm

[plucky charm]

helm was ok

[wise horizon]

T1 Crown, SBS, RH, Noir, Rumani
T2 Noise, Liter, Cinderella, Biscuit, Laplace (treasure)
T3 Ein, Blanc, DKW, Emilia, Centi

Anyway, I can improve my defense?
@swift mango @worthy knoll

[swift mango]

Rossana would need Ele invested to do that.

[eager mountain]

bad rosa
i give her resil cuz of that

[grand plaza]

Which one is better for defense?

I think I should go more balanced considering enemy can just ignore my strongest right?

[swift mango]

So you have a bad Rosa.

[eager mountain]

certainly 1 elem not good enough

[covert lintel]

i sent a message to whaler to whale more level

[unkempt monolith]

any tips for pvp on what team comps should I use with the nikkes I have and improve my defenses (I don't have Scarlet)
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtODE0NjQxMTIwNzI0NzYzODMxOA%3D%3D

[shell hazel]

post your nikke from in-game ordered by power, this doesn't really show the investments in the units

also what are you currently using for def teams?

[eager mountain]

well, at least it shows ol and skill lv, so having both is good

[shell hazel]

indeed but you can't see power which is useful 🙂

[eager mountain]

so i said both

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

not today rival-kun

[eager mountain]

blabla also doesnt show treasure status

[swift mango]

RIP

Noah, Jackal, Emi zero investment

[eager mountain]

273 with emi....

[shell hazel]

sync 273 with emi is a bit bricked

[eager mountain]

[shell hazel]

never hit top with that but still worth fixing a bit!

[swift mango]

Even RH not full OL. A Super casual player.

[eager mountain]

rng ig

not a bad idea to put it on sbs first for kraken

[unkempt monolith]

here (idk how comps work)
T1 Jackal Crown Alice SBS Biscuit
T2 Rapunzel Blanc Emilia Red Hood Noir
T3 Noise Noah SAnis something

[swift mango]

You don't farm Kraken when you RH and RRH missing Gauntlet. You farm Mirror.

[unkempt monolith]

missing one chest pilgrim gear

[shell hazel]

those images a little old I guess? 271, suppose not likely anything changes since

[unkempt monolith]

yes

[swift mango]

+Gauntlet on RRH.

[shell hazel]

you'll need to put some work into the core pvp units to do a bit better on it

[eager mountain]

he will farm kraken anyway
tho ai wise would be rrh gear priority for him, suitable for most ai

[shell hazel]

I can see centi no invest either

what is your current sp-arena rank? I think a good goal is to go up the ranks a bit and also be able to def that

[swift mango]

He need to invest in his Campaign units first... He has no CDR B1 full OL... So farm mirror for RRH hand first.

Ofc if he had spare gear to upgrade and spare rock to OL, spend 4 rock to OL each key PvP units first is fine.

[shell hazel]

pvp team comps would fall below campaign in importance, though you can keep in mind what you'd need to do for pvp units later

[eager mountain]

oh blabla shows not owned nik, nice

[unkempt monolith]

Diamond 8 down to Plat 2 average 80-110

[eager mountain]

no cindy so he wont even run rouge in mc so rrh in all ai teams

[shell hazel]

what's dumb in blabla is it does show the power here, but not when you go into them 😄

though this power ignores some in-game stuff

[eager mountain]

they said there could be issues with cp calculation

[shell hazel]

recycling room is ignored at least

[eager mountain]

thus why no option for power ranking ig

yeah mines also off come to look at it

doesnt account cubes as well

[shell hazel]

let's see if can improve the teams a bit anyway, no scarlet so scar/jack is out

[eager mountain]

tho its actually better to have power ranking with all cubes off

[shell hazel]

no cindy so no cindy/noah etc either

[swift mango]

ReiT-Jack

[shell hazel]

ah yeah that can work

is your helm treasured? guessing not. (is anyone treasured)?

[eager mountain]

get a dup of helm from exchange and treasure her asap, really good for all contents

1lb

[unkempt monolith]

no one

[shell hazel]

worth aiming for helm treasure for sure for pvp, like blood said probably below campaign team progression

but a good goal to reach, will help in many pvp team comps

[unkempt monolith]

should I OL Emilia before any abnormal units

[shell hazel]

OL main campaign units if any are missing first

[eager mountain]

Asukas

[unkempt monolith]

what's that

[eager mountain]

tho... might as well wait for april new chapter to see whether to ol asuka1 or not

[eager mountain]

gear

[quick lake]

How are u at 541 alr

[eager mountain]

new ch should have water boss again but donno about stage elem

[quick lake]

🐳

[eager mountain]

didnt look into high deflict clears against balls but id suppose balls hindering asuka1's campaign usage

[shell hazel]

think you can build 1 decentish team but you lack units for most others

what is the cp of that like?

with what you have maybe a strange noah / RH comp for 2nd team

[eager mountain]

move emi to other team's battery

this is overkilling

[shell hazel]

who to use instead? not many good batteries

they do have s.anis

[eager mountain]

drake

high cp for him

[shell hazel]

drake looks OK cp yeah

OK so this for t1

[eager mountain]

tho tbh any standard rl should make it 3rl

so anchor would do it as well

[shell hazel]

wondering if this is a good team 2, they seem to have invested anchor some she'd at least make this tanky with rapu

I think the flex spot there is anchor on team 1 or 2, so you can put her team 1 but then it's drake in team 2 instead based on power

[eager mountain]

swap anchor drake and replace rh with sanis u get "2.5"rl but thats only with 21emi

[shell hazel]

anchor makes this one 3.5RL unless you spam more quantum cubes

[eager mountain]

feed

[shell hazel]

I suppose feed may tip it

[eager mountain]

just p1 jackel free

[shell hazel]

wait we want blanc b2

maybe SBS in P3

[eager mountain]

ye

[shell hazel]

ok final 🙂

[eager mountain]

and 2nd link in p5

depending on atk

ye its anchor

so gud

[shell hazel]

yeah biscuit atk would be low

damnit no anchor 😄

[eager mountain]

at least its 2.8 ish rl ig with lv4 emi s1

[shell hazel]

rapu on p5 should be OK

but can throw drake there instead if we're worried she gets killed by p5 targets

[eager mountain]

likely not worth depending on t3, if there is a t3

[hidden egret]

BRUH

[shell hazel]

t3 is high cp imo

crown / rh / rapi etc

[hidden egret]

Guys I wanna make sp arena

[shell hazel]

basically campaign comp - crown / rapi / rh / alice / naga

[eager mountain]

he has the units to build 3, just need ol

[hidden egret]

If I need to make some unit I can add them to synchronize machine

[shell hazel]

in an ideal world who would you run in t3? I'd stack the CP for now and build up the core pvp units in t1/t2 more first

[eager mountain]

depends on how much cp diff, wont know

[shell hazel]

it looks a bit rough tbh, even with adding low invest units in cp on these teams could be low until the investments catch up a bit

[eager mountain]

treasure ur helm

[shell hazel]

@unkempt monolith try these teams. Team 3 see what it looks like if you just put Crown / Rapi / RH / Alice / Naga
Post the CP per team please when put together

[tropic summit]

synch 270 with emilia? you took a break didn't you?

[shell hazel]

quantum on Jackal
temperance on Noah

[eager mountain]

jack quantum makes no diff there

[shell hazel]

no better target for it, I throw quantums on my main batteries

unless you want to make jackal tankier

[eager mountain]

still 1 feed to 3rl

[hidden egret]

Nope am lazy

[shell hazel]

Railtracer - #pvp-arena message

[hidden egret]

Well in a way I was on a break

[tropic summit]

s.anis blanc sbs drake jackal
noah cind rapu emilia rh
crown CpFlex CpFlex biscuit CpFlex

notes:

wishlist/build asap:

all your lower CP utilities must be 4/4/4, R15 or SR5, priority to jackal, noah,noise
build helm treasured, s1 lvl 10, stage 2
wishlist rumani, consider rolling trina, consider raising CP also on xmaiden

[tropic summit]

wow he's tilting

[shell hazel]

won 3 out of 4 of my defs on their last attacks

so once again they can RNG win it sometimes?

[tropic summit]

that or they testing stuff

[shell hazel]

i'm still boosting my units more

[eager mountain]

crits, crits, scar feed etc

[shell hazel]

yeah it's something like that, but can't tell for sure

my dolls on noise / jackal are non-existent so could be that as well

[eager mountain]

defense be like that, sigh

[shell hazel]

i'm planning to boost those up soon, just need another Solo Raid 🙂

[unkempt monolith]

T1 226k, T2 220k, T3 300k

[shell hazel]

CP looks low for your sync, but you can maybe fix it some

has everyone got at least 4/4/4 skills + a cube on?

[hidden egret]

Thanks

[shell hazel]

is anyone missing a doll?

[hidden egret]

Btw who is Trina again

I can't remember

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/cow-gif-26468388

Trina ^

[unkempt monolith]

some don't have cubes and dolls but all at least 4/4/4

[shell hazel]

give everyone a cube (steal them from less important units for now)

[hidden egret]

Oh her, so she is good

[shell hazel]

if you have spare dolls to hand out, you can do that as well - going straight to SR doll isn't typically recommended but you could do that for a less important unit

[unkempt monolith]

steal from team 3?

[shell hazel]

no, your main campaign team need cubes etc

but you should have other random ones you can assign out

[tropic summit]

battery, enables a particular 2RL scarlet variation, can work as a better SR anis

[hidden egret]

Oh

[tropic summit]

you can consider getting her or waiting for rumani wishlist, you need them to open up your third proper team instead of running CP pad, although it also allows you to move around emilia

[shell hazel]

she boosts Scarlet/Moran but she also just works as a common battery unit for burst gen

within a few days I hope to have 100 pulls to try for Trina

[hidden egret]

Oh

[shell hazel]

if you're sat on resources in the inventory you could spend some, i.e. doll upgrade materials

upgrading doll on Jackal/Noah would help your team survival a lot + also add CP

[grand plaza]

Should keep Cind pos1 for her burst or switch to quency to not feed burst to enemy

[shell hazel]

cindy p1 is bad

but if you throw anis there she may die 😄

[tropic summit]

remove quency and use someone else to pad

[swift mango]

2 days and I finally spent sometime to clear ch24 boss... Was pretty easy but I was lazy before....

[tropic summit]

slacker

[tropic summit]

you can even upgrade the RL speed

any B2 flex high on CP possibly non clip RL or non clip SG is already enough

[shell hazel]

worried about anis dying so not putting her p2?

[tropic summit]

any clip RL instead turns it into natural 2RL

[tropic summit]

generally never run SR anis in any position that isn't p4

p1 open to direct fire, p2 open to splash, p3 open to emilia splash, p4 safe, p5 open to SR

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nyaruhodo-hxh-hunter-x-hunter-neferpitou-anime-gif-11663505576349852877

[unkempt monolith]

so I max the dolls in everyone or no? how about rookie arena what team is good for me?

[swift mango]

SR Anis p1, equip endurance cube on non defender units, biscuit her. Now it's infinity taunt on SbS.

[grand plaza]

That was my team before HelmT, but now I want to use her and I can't fit her somewhere

This is my attack teams

And this is defense

And these are nikkes

[shell hazel]

no - you need to be careful with doll upgrade materials

[tropic summit]

we already talked about before iirc, but you need to fix your cind team, stop running quency with her, you need cindy to be either 3RL (weak) or 2RL (slightly less weaker), this is on the assumption enemy will want to noah it anyway

[shell hazel]

how much do you have? how many spares have you got?

I tend to find people that play casually don't open resources 😄

what does your inventory look like?

I open/use basically everything (yes, even the cake we had for rapi event)

only credit boxes I don't open atm as I don't have a use for them yet

[tropic summit]

for both attack and def you could be running the same, aim for noahless teams for both teams when you attacking, both teams are also weak to scarlet so that's a no go aswell

3rd team run it padded until you've better options (crown p1, biscuit p4, rest can be flex CP)

[swift mango]

All I see is a miser who doesn't even keep bond items.

[shell hazel]

another red dot staring at me in the inventory :p

[unkempt monolith]

Here's mine, I can treasure Helm right now I just noticed

[shell hazel]

what the

[tropic summit]

oh no...

[shell hazel]

open those orange / purple crates man...

these don't get better with time, just open them hundreds of doll upgrade materials

[swift mango]

It's yellow

[shell hazel]

i'm colour blind 😄

[unkempt monolith]

I don't invest in those dolls yet except treasures

[shell hazel]

open them anyway, it's just doll upgrade materials, sat in boxes

and your nikkes are weak

[tropic summit]

i'm more concerned for their only 12 credit boxes at this synch

[shell hazel]

also man please apply all those spare bodies 😄

your inventory would be way easier to navigate then

[swift mango]

K33p some for weekly mission

[shell hazel]

oh? I tend to do those OK anyway without applying

maybe a casual wouldn't

[swift mango]

That's so you don't have to do 20 pulls a week and could hoard pulls

[shell hazel]

I see, you get about that in the social points if you tap those at least

I go to those first, usually enough I think

[swift mango]

They are also pull to hoard

[shell hazel]

they got a NY selector as well - saving it or may as well use on a good missing unit?

I'd use it on Rumani tbh, with their roster on the blabla site she is a notably missing unit

[shell hazel]

I don't save the others atm (calculated as I'm pushing for 261 and getting next chapters done) but no point opening credit cases when I have a lot already

I did accidentally open some of the credit cases I had though, but I'll keep the rest for a better outpost level

[grand plaza]

I just realized you replaced HelmT with Quency on second team, my bad -_-

What about this team? Compared to the Rei, Quency has +23K CP and better burst and still indom

Rei's indom is better but thats the only benefit over Quency

3rd team is dud

[tropic summit]

reiT nuke is far better than quency, although if it tanks your CP that's probably for the best
3rd team just ensure it has your most CP padded units, it won't burst in time anyway

[grand plaza]

I meant as its better here because I invested a lot more on Quency, she is 7 10 8 with OL gears and purple doll, while Rei 4 4 7 and thats all I believe.

My most CP padded units are on top 2 teams so 3rd team usually has no hope Not that it matters if 2 wins.

Thanks

[unkempt monolith]

So what nikke's dolls should I prioritize first? guessing the campaign team first?

[shell hazel]

first of all - what is your main campaign team and what dolls do they have?

some units work in both so you can dual-invest to some degree, so worth taking advantage of that

[tropic summit]

although keep in mind water code units in pvp generally gets kinda screwed, the majority of pvp meta units are elec code... that means you're most likely gonna get elem. weakness dmg, which will be kind bad considering your 3RL

wind code is a far safer choice, as not many fire code pvp meta units available

[unkempt monolith]

pretty much the team 3 you mentioned, only Alice has phase 5 dolls others are 0

[shell hazel]

boost your campaign team

[grand plaza]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnever thought that way. 4D chess moment lol

Still 23k CP is too much to ignore I guess, I can keep it like this temp and replace with Rei after a bit more investment

[shell hazel]

dps first. ideally start with R-0 (blue) dolls

[tropic summit]

yup that team has to go, down the line, but you don't have a choice atm so that will do

[shell hazel]

RH is a great choice to upgrade doll on first

open those two crate types I mentioned and check how many materials you have please

you should have hundreds of materials spare

[grand plaza]

Yeah, appreciate it

[shell hazel]

for ref my campaign team is this
Crown = SR-5
Rapi = SR-10
Cindy = SR-15
RH = SR-15
Naga = SR-5

SG and MG dolls are less important, and those are support units anyway, though I will eventually get Rapi to SR-15 just because Rapi

[crystal flicker]

You have more cp than my 278 lmao

[shell hazel]

I focused the team pretty well but I have split investments out to some pvp units and things as well, just min/maxed what I could 😄

eventually tr Helm would out-CP my Naga quite a bit as well I think once I finish OL her gear and getting her more skills

[crystal flicker]

I kinda stuck at Behemoth, 243K

[shell hazel]

must be 343K for behe?

[covert lintel]

change that naga to helmT
u will make campaign easier

[shell hazel]

it works sometimes, sometimes it doesn't, I have tried both

[crystal flicker]

average clear last 1 month is 370K

[shell hazel]

yeah I won't try Behe here, I'm gunning for 261 first and the cp boost

[crystal flicker]

My only issue is the qte tbh

[shell hazel]

Crown is 10/10/9 skills now as well

my 2nd full 10's after RH soon

Rapi 8/10/8 though she's OK there, I may just put skills into OG scarlet a bit as she's one of my main pvp carries

[grand plaza]

Except Naga/THelm all nikkes worth 10 10 10 here tbh

That would hurt

[shell hazel]

Naga is on 7's so she's OK there as well

[crystal flicker]

It's electric weak

[shell hazel]

Cindy 10/5/10 - but her skill 2 does nothing for her damage except bump cp

although it might boost own hp a bit? little more dps there as Cindy is HP scaling

[grand plaza]

Yeah, but definitely not a priority

[shell hazel]

I mapped them out but some stuff needs updating, it's mostly right

this should be a bit more accurate

Noah to R-15 doll then i'll work on Noise/Jackal doll a bit

[grand plaza]

Thats dedication :D

[shell hazel]

when you think about it, it makes sense to lay out like this

because I can see where I need to go do stuff 🙂

[crystal flicker]

I don't see Rosanna

[shell hazel]

no invest

(yet)
same with Moran

and soon to be same with Trina

I hope to be able to extend the investments a bit with anni but I'll see what the anni units are like and how they change up my options

[unkempt monolith]

I regret me not playing after the first eva collab and didn't get cindy, got busy with some things

[shell hazel]

you can wishlist for Cindy still obtainable

or spook pull on another banner

[covert lintel]

naga is the one hindering your campaign progress because low burst gen often get your team wiped out

[unkempt monolith]

should I get trina or she wishlist

[shell hazel]

it's not I'm stuck at behemoth basically

[shell hazel]

she's a great pvp unit - she won't do anything for your pve teams though

[covert lintel]

this is my auto for campaign

[shell hazel]

if I can kill behe at 261 which I think I'll be able to do, I can then probably reach end of 36

you want a built sort of Helm for that as I understand it, probably more than my current Helm is

but beyond 36 there is currently nothing, so I can sort of chill on that a bit whilst I await the new chapters, and I can instead build Helm to be ready for that

my poor SBS somehow made it lol

I ran a stupid comp for CP reasons, it was Crown / Rapi / RH / SBS / Cindy

are you on global?

they don't have Scar though 😦

so for them Trina is just a b2 battery really for pvp

they already have unbuilt battery units like centi, she's worth getting if you can spare pulls but she won't change much short term

I'm personally going for her but I know many will be saving for anni

this is just another 33-6 I think, or similar, need a bit of RNG to get through beginning chaos

this stage was certainly very annoying

if you're a few days off 261 might be worth just saving your sanity a bit

you'll get hard stopped at end of chapter boss probably before 261 anyway

255

ah so a bit more than a few days then I guess

even with the hard mode retries, I think it won't be enough even for 2 levels

boss of chap 17

[long chasm]

Any team for counter this?

[shell hazel]

the MG hurts a lot at my deficit, I'll just 261 that as well

yeah that is a better place to push for now if you can

[tropic summit]

R? only anis, but even then we've better options now with trina and helmT

as R units would tank your CP too harshly

on a very low and very desperate chance you could use neon

[shell hazel]

those are SR units 😄

[unkempt monolith]

1k blues

[tropic summit]

depends on what you got, considering it's an unbuffed scarlet nuke you could consider facetanking it or take the easy solution of running your own noah stall team

[shell hazel]

is that for RH?

[tropic summit]

don't use blue units

[unkempt monolith]

Alice

[long chasm]

What team?

[shell hazel]

keep Alice at SR-5 for now, you're better off pushing RH doll

what doll has RH got on?

[unkempt monolith]

SR

[shell hazel]

SR-0 or SR-5?

[tropic summit]

told you before, just run 24-48hrs with lvl 1 units in all your team

[unkempt monolith]

0

[shell hazel]

oof

just use blue materials only until you super success to SR-5

[long chasm]

Helm but only lv 5 skill it okay?

[shell hazel]

it could be costly depending on your luck, 150 needed to jump a level (and make it more likely)

[long chasm]

I only awake help tier 2 fav doll

[tropic summit]

not ok

[long chasm]

Only skil 1 and 2 get buff

[tropic summit]

raise her skill to s1 lvl 7 and it might suffice

oh actually it doesn't

[shell hazel]

don't burn the purple/orange materials yet, save them until you're higher SR doll level

use blues from SR-0 to SR-5 there and report back once done and how many are left

[tropic summit]

run this instead

[shell hazel]

prio skill 1 ignore the other skill for now

[long chasm]

It same team like enemies

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit sbs centi rumani

[shell hazel]

it's not, mirror comps are always bad idea

[long chasm]

Still lose

[tropic summit]

it's not same

[shell hazel]

do it

[long chasm]

It same lol

[tropic summit]

are you for real or you trolling?

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit sbs centi rumani
vs
noise rapunzel scarlet jackal noah

[shell hazel]

[long chasm]

Ohh the left one

[unkempt monolith]

spent 200 blues to phase 5

[long chasm]

I thought the arrow order to use right one

[shell hazel]

that's good enough not bad

[shell hazel]

now do SR-5 to SR-6 with blues only, 150 unless you get lucky super success
report back what materials are left please after this

[tropic summit]

give centi and rumani quantum cube so you can hit 2RL

should consider stop acting cocky before you really get 2 or 3 whales in there

[shell hazel]

pls get gud me bored

[tropic summit]

do you've emilia?

[long chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/shy-dog-dog-shy-dog-shoes-martian-shy-gif-1847379792495616229

[long chasm]

I have it

[shell hazel]

what is the cp here btw?

like what is yours vs their cp

this does matter sometimes

[long chasm]

I stil have high cp a little

[shell hazel]

not at deficit there yes

[tropic summit]

let's try this next

[shell hazel]

we go indom emi and then she just nukes everyone to death whilst being only one left alive? 😄

[tropic summit]

indom hard carry is likely the best solution for this one or ultra stall

[long chasm]

@tropic summit look like need to wait tommorow lol

[shell hazel]

yeah don't waste gems

[long chasm]

Already lose 5times

[shell hazel]

good learning thing anyway

[tropic summit]

if anything we learned their stall potential, now just a matter of hitting them really hard

[onyx scaffold]

help me cook 3 teams plz

• can make Helm s1 lv10
• no 17% cs on anyone
  emilia has 5.51% from gear
  no rumani. anis has OL
  @whole pawn

[shell hazel]

it's only 7 hours until reset

[swift mango]

Trina skill 3 also buff whole team dmg by 25 odd %. And you could use her alongside Cindy who could take advantage of the HP buff. Or Moran p1.

[shell hazel]

they don't have Cindy either

[swift mango]

Moran p1. Or it's just okay dmg buffer or clip RL body.

Anyway she is still good with enough investment as generic B2.

[shell hazel]

no Cindy, no Scar, moran not built etc, I'm gunning for her but it's hard to rec someone who lacks the core units to do so, when they could have a similar job out of building centi

100 pulls and I hope I get a Trina if not it might be mileage time

[swift mango]

Centi doesn't give 25% dmg buff on burst.

That alone already make her better than all clip RL that's not Jackal and Noah.

[shell hazel]

true - I def want a copy

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

I feel like 100 should give me a reasonable shot at getting her, depends on RNG anyway

[onyx scaffold]

Not sure why I ping @whole pawn mistakenly. My bad.
Anyway, sending help @tropic summit

[shell hazel]

550 mileage, so it would become 650

[swift mango]

Emilia is not very needed at this point and just a battery mostly or cheese Noah teams without a biscuit.

[shell hazel]

I will just mileage the pilgrim

[onyx scaffold]

Must have for pvp

[shell hazel]

I'd rather secure Trina for my teams 🙂

wishlist could take months for her to appear

[onyx scaffold]

My alt still doesn't have maid priv

[shell hazel]

1% banners are rough anyway I don't rate my chances that good

[swift mango]

Maid Privaty kinda lost her place to DrakeT already. No need her anyway.

[shell hazel]

I'd rather throw the pulls on a 2% banner unit and then mileage the 1% ones

[onyx scaffold]

It doesn't have anything to do with me missing her for a whole year when she was used a lot

[shell hazel]

as blood said she is still a great battery and you'll probably want more of those for champ arena when it appears

but you can lob 100 pulls out there for nothing so don't blame me 😄

if you fail 😛

[onyx scaffold]

But like u say, she is outclassed. Therefore I dont use the 2025 selector on maid priv

[shell hazel]

I just want the tickets in the shop first, the 10 pulls

[strange linden]

can someone explain me how the opponent manage to burst that quickly?

[shell hazel]

she's useful in a general sense, she works with moran, the best time to get a unit is going to be when it's on banner, and any future units that fit elec code AR profile she'll boost as well

lots of pros, not many cons to getting Trina

[unkempt monolith]

rl moment (idk how pvp works)

[swift mango]

They burst 1 after you b3. It's just you couldn't kill their Rapu with a wipe so she revive ASS and burst.

[strange linden]

it is consistent, he always manage to burst and revive Sanis

so I guess I should slow down?

[swift mango]

That's because your Scarlet is weak.

[strange linden]

or is there any other good comp?

fam she's 10/10/10 and SR15

[swift mango]

Just 101010 scarlet, xx10 rh and xx10 Blanc. You should be fine.

[strange linden]

but they are like that

[swift mango]

Another easier option is to burst with Trina instead. 477 is enough. Even 444 Trina is better than xx10 Blanc normally.

[swift mango]

CP, core difference?

[strange linden]

cp should be fine, she's only lb1 though

[shell hazel]

if their Rapu is like max core then she'd be pretty tanky

core 5 Noah, this guy pvps

[swift mango]

Also, get your reiT 3-4 Ele line then burst with her instead. Should be even easier.

Another option is just to use

Emi+Blanc+RH+Crown+Jackal

[strange linden]

I need skill books man

[swift mango]

Trina skill?

[strange linden]

I was thinking about emilia but I'm not sure how fast I should burst

[strange linden]

4/7/5, trying to 4/10/10 her

[swift mango]

Could try. Could even switch Centi with Crown for more dmg.

[strange linden]

why Crown though? getting 3RL?

[swift mango]

Crown getting healed by Trina give you 20% dmg buff

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

But not sure if ASS feed enough bullet for that team. But looks similar enough to your older team though

Probly fine

[strange linden]

doesn't she only heals when she's under 50% HP?

[swift mango]

My bad, could use flex Maid Mast instead.

She also buff some ATK and crit rate if you had her built

[strange linden]

I don't have the maid duos

[swift mango]

Noir flex then

So longs as Scarlet is still linked

[tropic summit]

at your synch lvl you kinda need rosanna invested and would be ideal having a few of the batteries on CS%17... since any def team won't last long at your level let's go for something unusual and see if they bite

scarlet centi rh emilia jackal (scarlet needs to be 1st or 2nd highest atk%, OL included, else link breaks)
noise rumani cind helmT noah
alice s.anis rrh naga bsoda

quantum on centi, emi, jackal
vigor on noise
temperance on noah

[covert lintel]

sync 501 and you will fix that

[covert lintel]

523 and just 1m a bit is not well invested

[umbral crown]

You 501?

[covert lintel]

526

[umbral crown]

Nice

[swift mango]

Maybe his Rapunzel is sr15 somehow but the rest may not even full OL ..

[umbral crown]

Guess you have around 3.5m

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

that is expected behaviour, you're on B3 when they're on B1, s.anis gets revived post your nuke and then noah invulnerability kicks in, your indom scarlet has not enough ammo and is forced into reload

[onyx scaffold]

dang. my mlb anne is benched

[tropic summit]

can run the usual def teams but i expect your opponent knows them by heart

[onyx scaffold]

no rumani

[swift mango]

Your screenshot is late. Scarlet reduce Rapu to like 5% health before she shot back to 40%+ with her burst

[shell hazel]

selector

[onyx scaffold]

dang. i did a multi on trina and get rosanna dupe

[strange linden]

I'm surprised their rapunzel even survived a RH+blanc buff
Would trina's burst kill her instead?

[onyx scaffold]

gone

[unkempt monolith]

progressing through ch 30 finally not stuck, fighting the boss rn

[swift mango]

Should be

[onyx scaffold]

pepper

[covert lintel]

maybe, but i suspected his opponent has the advantage of sync 501 and 521 upgrade so he can't kill rapu

[tropic summit]

trina accounts for a buff equal to blanc + RH, if you're to burst with trina + RH one should expect that's enough to wipe them

[onyx scaffold]

ok got trina @tropic summit

dang it. no overload

[keen vapor]

pepper the goat

[tropic summit]

@strange linden try this next and record it, should give us a good idea

[swift mango]

To be frank, invest in Crit rate. My scarlet has around 50% crit on Burst and often enough she would wipe whole team Buffed defender or not. This is without Trina.

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

It's what he is already trying just no click on it yet lol

[umbral crown]

Go pull

[onyx scaffold]

did 3 multi
rosanna pepper trina on each pull

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor

[umbral crown]

You have 200k gems

Wasting them on wipe out ....

[covert lintel]

4atk 4crit? nice

[onyx scaffold]

i would rather pull trina then spark half anni than pulling half anni

[swift mango]

I only have 1 blue line attack lol

[keen vapor]

I rather open cases :pepeh:

[umbral crown]

Open then

[keen vapor]

Yes :pepeh:

[umbral crown]

Show video

[keen vapor]

You know I have to save data

[umbral crown]

Buy then

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Screenshot your inventory

[wise owl]

How's Moran with Trina?
Being Scarletless is a PVP pain

[keen vapor]

Moran lifesteals like crazy

If your damage is not blocked is great

[sudden badger]

i finally got helm's favourite item, it's at phase 2 cuz phase 3 too expensive. how should i build my teams (rookie and sp arena)
my helm has some ol lines too (ammo, charge speed and damage, elemental damage)

[tropic summit]

that's great, what's helmT s1 lvl?

[quick lake]

U have 4x crit rate on ur scar?

[tropic summit]

he did mention he threw a ton of rocks on scarlet before

[strange linden]

omg, I just realize I had this Emilia+rh on Scarlet DEF comp and Emilia actually stole the buff 💀

[sudden badger]

oh uh, 7
7-6-5

[tropic summit]

get her s1 to lvl 10

[covert lintel]

scar became unlink

[tropic summit]

noise centi cind helmT rumani
sbs blanc rh xmaiden jackal
liter cind rrh grave alice (temp pad CP team)

[tropic summit]

why emilia when you could run this

[sudden badger]

you used cindy in two teams?

[tropic summit]

yes replace cindy with any high CP unit in T3

[sudden badger]

o
ok

[strange linden]

nah that's on rookie cause I noticed I lost that scarlet died quickly when I lost earlier
I did this against my sp opponent and won (thanks btw)

[tropic summit]

oh oke cool

[covert lintel]

now aim for 3win

[sudden badger]

i dont have blanc...

[strange linden]

Can I switch Centi and Emilia without losing too much on the burst gen?

[raven plover]

b2

[tropic summit]

noise centi cind helmT pepper
xmaiden grave biscuit liter rumani
alice sbs rrh naga jackal

[strange linden]

I'm kinda screwed since Emilia steal jackal buff

[sudden badger]

thanks

[tropic summit]

rumani in T1 is pepper btw, picture is wrong but the post was correct

[forest solstice]

at what point of progression should i start paying more attention to pvp

[tropic summit]

when your campaign team is decently built

SR15 on everyone, 4OL, ideal good OL rolls

[forest solstice]

sorry what's SR15?

[covert lintel]

he mean doll

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

use helmT in your 3rd team

[forest solstice]

oh that's a while from now
thanks anyway

[tidal olive]

Can someone help me improve my sp arena teams? I know they can be better, just not sure who to put where at this point other than replacing regular Anis. 🤔

Here's my teams atm:

[tropic summit]

using a bit too many SGs there

[tidal olive]

Yeah I havent updated them in quite a while

[quick lake]

Pretty decent teams

[strange linden]

third team is Sanis team, I don't know if HelmT is good here
But I do have Maiden Ice Rose, I forgot about her, thanks for reminding me

[tidal olive]

Can give more info too if needed, don't have Makima

[swift mango]

Is fine. Scarlet need to be linked still

[strange linden]

I noticed I didn't have a b2 on second team if I switched them

[swift mango]

You mean you wanted to switch that 2 teams? That's 2 teams are good enough already

[tropic summit]

scarlet xanne pepper centi jackal
blanc emi sbs biscuit rumani
noah noise helmT la+ rapunzel

quantum on centi jackal and xanne
vigor on biscuit, noise, rapu, blanc (if 1 more slot left, pepper)
temperance no noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

[tropic summit]

yes can turn that team intro stall oriented with heavy sustain

[strange linden]

No I mean if I switch centi on team 1 and Emilia on team 2
Team 2 won't have a b2

[tropic summit]

@strange linden possible T3

[swift mango]

Use this instead if Scarlet and RH are still linked. This would make Scarlet burst a little bit stronger and 2rl still vs that ASS team.

[tidal olive]

Nice, thank you! No use for Moran or Rosanna in there? I'm also sitting challenge 6 atm if thats relevant.

[quick lake]

Single buffed Scar and single buffed Emi?

[tropic summit]

the bait here is that the enemy will waste noah on T1

might work, might not, then again this is the times we live in

[tropic summit]

rosanna could, what's her stats and OL?

[strange linden]

Can I use Moran instead of Rapunzel? Wouldn't she be better for this comp?

[tropic summit]

lose on speed and add feed, pass

could still try it, although more sensible to scarlet or 2RL enemy teams

[swift mango]

Is Emi buffed by Miranda called single buff?

Is Scarlet buffed by Trina called single buff?

69

[tropic summit]

can be pushed to 2RL at the cost of losing temperance on noah

[tidal olive]

Completely bare atm. I can give her overload real quick, but skills would still be 1/1/1 for a bit.

[tropic summit]

then bench her until you've her on 7/10/10 SR15 and 30-40atk% OL

[tidal olive]

Okie dokie

[tropic summit]

can still be used around SR5 7/10/7 10-20atk% as water code killer

[swift mango]

That's blasphemy my Rossanna working fine at 797 10% AtK sr5 and 60% Ele.

[strange linden]

I think we're not talking the same thing
I already beat my opponent thanks to Scarlet+Trina
Here, I'm talking about switching my DEF comp, I was using Emilia+Scarlet until now and no wonder I was losing since the latter steal Jackal's buff

[tropic summit]

right above

[quick lake]

Those are the only two exception

[swift mango]

I killed 40% hp Scarlet just fine too.

[strange linden]

Did you meant Noah instead of Naga?

If that's the case, third team can't have Noah then

[quick lake]

Mine all CN/JP/KR peeps

[strange linden]

Mostly JP too here

[quick lake]

But doubt they'll frequent EN discord

[tropic summit]

you need noah in T3 the most to prevent helmT getting wiped by any non-rosanna elec code (rosanna on 2RL will kill her regardless)

either that or you make T3 weaker and merge all into T2 and make cindy 2RL with noah

[quick lake]

A very optimised SPA team set-up

T2 might be abit weak hmmm

[tropic summit]

that's assuming taunt priority on noise right?

[swift mango]

I wanted to build Miranda but realized one critical problem with her in PvE... She only buff Crit rate of one unit per cycle but you wanted her to buff either Maxwell or Snow white when they burst... That means your Miranda+Maxwell+SW team is stuck with needing Crown to even function properly..... Then needing one CDR as well... And ofc matching ATK OL %.

[quick lake]

oh yes, thats true. Forgot about taunts

[tropic summit]

noise on lower CS% than noah should do fine, else enemy team going to get 1.75x burst gen

[swift mango]

Rei.T pretty much wanted Blanc buff the most.

[quick lake]

Well, just a cook I came up with. Looks good in theory. If I had Emilia

[quick lake]

Hmm yeah. Hopefully no more clipRL for a long time please

Too much clipRL is bad for pvp

[swift mango]

They are building up for ca

Or people with CS investment would dominate the whale over there.

Need 3x2 RL teams without CS so whale could win with just dupe and little investment on attack. And gem when losing on defense.

[quick lake]

I hope CA has no gemming system

[tropic summit]

a game that has regular scams in shop and gives incentives to p2p releasing a mode that doesn't do the same anymore?

[strange linden]

Is Naga fine at Pos1?

Wouldn't thought Pepper would still be useful, I have no OL gears, I'll do that and try these comp
Nothing to lose at this point

[tropic summit]

naga is flex B2, you're likely having her dead by 3RL, centi will be bursting

[tropic summit]

you don't have rumani so she will have to do

[strange linden]

huh, I have Rumani

[pale knoll]

[tropic summit]

is she as invested as pepper or tanks CP?

[strange linden]

she has 4 OL gears 4/4/4 and barely at 177k cp

[graceful grotto]

saved

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1162985219830329374.webp?size=128&animated=true

[tropic summit]

can remove naga and place rumani instead of pepper

get emi on 21%CS and that team becomes 2.5RL

[strange linden]

I will try it, thanks again appreciate for the help

[shell hazel]

she does? all I hear is AWOOOOOOOOOOO

[tropic summit]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/946720097031045161

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/liter-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-27631948

[tropic summit]

also

🚪

[upper zephyr]

@shell hazelimprovements

[shell hazel]

I was just searching for you to see how it was going but I typed it here by accident lol

good to see

[keen vapor]

AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[shell hazel]

were you losing to them before?

[crystal flicker]

D1 acc, Returnee

I just need to fill the cp gap smh

[upper zephyr]

sgyinn has given me trouble in sp and rookie and i have lost to sunshine and dpel before but that was a while ago, they havent been successful in a while

[shell hazel]

keep it up 🙂 chal 9 is good if you can just sit there

maybe creep up some eventually

[upper zephyr]

yh, i think some of my problem is going to be lvl defficit, currently im the second lowest lvl in the top 10, the top 5 is all over 340 while im 328, the highest is 374 atm

[shell hazel]

you can fight OK +20/+40 levels above you maybe, it gets harder after that, just gotta invest in the teams a bit more to make up for it

[tropic summit]

between 20-30 levels is generally still doable, worry once they're past lvl 50

although your def is going to be likely broken

[pale knoll]

@tropic summit should be alright no?

[shell hazel]

it's good to have options to switch up def sometimes, something I want to do myself if I can

so if someone can beat me one day, I can make changes to keep them on their toes some 😄

at the least it will enforce them to know what they're doing and how to counter different teams

[tropic summit]

hmm depends on their linked nikke, if noah and jackal are still alive you'll be in trouble

if cindy isn't linked, they won't B3 as you'll 1hitko

although you'll need to deal with jackal and noah invulnerable from biscuit

should be ok as you've trina and helmT sustain

[shell hazel]

I want to build a capable stall team eventually, for now I think I need to keep OL'ing units (basic 1 rock OL on gear) and getting some dolls a bit higher

next solo raid maybe I can get Scarlet doll to SR-15

[quick lake]

Stall team like Blanc SBS? Or Nero Moran

[tropic summit]

there's another thing you could try in case (will be easier for you due to lack of HelmT in enemy side)

[pale knoll]

With noah I wouldn't be asking in the first place

Ty anyways

[shell hazel]

not sure yet, I don't have Nero either (in the wishlist)

[tropic summit]

i think you've already the materials for one, choose your favourite flex here to push it either 2RL or 2.5RL

[shell hazel]

problem is it steals units from my other teams 😄

[tropic summit]

well duh

[shell hazel]

gimme cloning sir

then I can put helm in every team

[tropic summit]

long term project maybe?

[shell hazel]

yes something like that would be more the goal 🙂

or if we get another new treasure unit in some months that can help do it even better than backtracking for laplace

[quick lake]

Nero is a myth

[shell hazel]

she'll appear some day I hope

[quick lake]

ScarTrinaRH nukes out Stall comp

[tropic summit]

i've no idea when or how, but one day maybe?

oh you meant the ultra glass cannon yeah

that thing probably kills anything that is not invulnerable or indommed on 2RL

[quick lake]

but stall comp too expensive. Maybe when I have multiple c7 units

[tropic summit]

see you in a few years

[umbral crown]

[patent hatch]

can i just put my nikkes here to ask about pvp teams or should i put in team building?

[tropic summit]

post your box here with nikke ordered by strength, you're in the right place

[patent hatch]

ok lemme mald over my bad net for a bit i will send soon hopefully

All of the nikkes that i own

[shell hazel]

oh yay free gift card

damn I was too slow 😦

gimme 😮

[patent hatch]

is she good?

[tropic summit]

privaty naga drake liter jackal
bay rumani sbs biscuit bsoda
auto

[shell hazel]

only really for pvp but yes

[patent hatch]

ty so much

[patent hatch]

if i could i would switch for a liter core but i cant

[shell hazel]

liter cores are plentiful, I'd swap the other way 😄

[patent hatch]

im here stuck behind 160 wall since no liter cores my man

[shell hazel]

used all your 100 pt exchanges?

[patent hatch]

and standard tickets

[shell hazel]

silver mileage?

she's in that shop as well

[patent hatch]

not enough

[lunar dirge]

Don't get surprised when you ACC will "accidentally" get stolen after pressing on it

[shell hazel]

my hopes of free gift card fading away 😦

[umbral crown]

@swift mango whale cooked new teams

But i also cooked

[shell hazel]

:DorothyRatDance:

🐀 💃

[umbral crown]

73 level gap

[tulip quest]

mine gaps me with 500k CP

455 VS 560

impossible for me

[lunar pawn]

team recs?

roster

[crystal surge]

Pvp def team suggestions?, have trina but i haven't build her yet

[umbral crown]

Thats 110k

Well 105

But in overal cp he has kinda 400k more

339 vs 412

[tropic summit]

now you're back on the job

[tropic summit]

check CP and you're good to go

if no trina can consider:

scarlet centi rh rumani jackal (you'll need a different variation of T3 with 2RL and noah + biscuit, avoid feeding)
scarlet laplace/emi rh centi jackal (atk% requirement on scarlet for link)
scarlet xmaiden rh centi jackal (no atk% requirement, unchanged T3)

this will kill blanc helmT, while leave sbs on low hp, la+ and rapu on low-medium, rapu will ress helmT but they can't burst without B2)

[tropic summit]

sbs blanc s.anis la+ jackal
blanc emi rh biscuit xmaiden
grave naga cind helmT noise

note: check table as there are conditions

cubes:

quantum as on table provided (and depending on which var you going for)
vigor on blanc, noise, biscuit
resil on s.anis, s.anis must be at least lvl 9 burst and no ammo OL
temperance noah (not using her yet as she seems fairly lower on CP, transform T3 in the following once ready:

noise noah cind helm rumani (2RL)

any other nikke run highest lvl cube

[swift mango]

My CN whale has been cooking new teams almost everyday for a week now. I think he will just give up and open more boxes for more levels now.

Dude invested a bit in Arena because I keep hitting him for months now 40 lv difference. This season with a new guy came in 11 level more than me, he decided to up his level by 11 to keep the 40 lv status quo... Maybe more soon.

[patent hatch]

my cp gets really funny
87k
78k
106k

[lunar pawn]

No trina yet, Idk if I'm still unlucky if I'll mileage on the last day

Kudos though

[tropic summit]

i added trina-less variations

[tropic summit]

the CP pad team should be the highest, if 106k is T3 you're fine

[umbral crown]

Si , its nice to have some action

[quick lake]

I finally reached maxed outpost level #gacha-rolls message

[tropic summit]

there is such a thing?

[umbral crown]

At least you see new cooks daily to learn, i had months of inactivity. Its nice to be back into buzziness

[patent hatch]

i see ty ima see the difference next reset

[quick lake]

Cleared all the way to 36 hard

[umbral crown]

Whale

[quick lake]

Left with black snake, which gonna be long long

[umbral crown]

How much per h

[tropic summit]

it was a long journey but you made it

[quick lake]

90cd per hour

[umbral crown]

Waos

[pale knoll]

@tropic summit your bets?

[tropic summit]

can't spare an indom or a noah i imagine?

[pale knoll]

Nah, just curious

[tropic summit]

2RL noah or indom wins that blindfold, glass cannon

hmmmmm it depends whether you can kill scarlet within that 1.8s she's unlocked from trina pocket

keep in mind RH will shoot p5, so it's 4 ppl shooting p1

safe to say they might burst with xmaiden instead of scarlet cuz she'll die

[pale knoll]

100% ele rrh and 30% ele soda enough?

[tropic summit]

probably enough unless RNG somehow saves them

[pale knoll]

It's pretty much 50% stats penalty no? Surely they'll win anyways

[quick lake]

Nuke comes first

[tropic summit]

safe to say scarlet would need massive balls to carry that one

probably not lethal should work

[pale knoll]

My curiousity beats me this time, will try it at reset

[lunar pawn]

Whale

[quick lake]

No whale

[lunar pawn]

Ok Poseidon

I'm stuck on 35 26

[quick lake]

My cp higher than urs, cause I was lucky to c7 Helm

Im at 1.30m cp, so much lower deficit

[lunar pawn]

I wonder if I should spend some silver mileage to improve helm

Idk how much cp we're getting per dupe

[quick lake]

~2% i think

[lunar pawn]

Stats yea, cp? Idk

[quick lake]

0LB to MLB is ~8%, then each core is ~2%

Oh that's true

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/you-tempt-me-lets-do-it-spider-man-marvel-cartoon-gif-17967993

[pale knoll]

Helm's s2 attack dmg does affect scar nuke in 2rl right?

[quick lake]

Doesnt affect

[lunar pawn]

No

[pale knoll]

How come?

[lunar pawn]

Because she buffs atk dmg

[quick lake]

When entering FB buffs, doesnt buff nukes

[lunar pawn]

Not atk dmg based on caster's atk

[pale knoll]

Why wouldn't it

[lunar pawn]

Oh you mean nuke

[swift mango]

Should win

[lunar pawn]

Ask SU

[quick lake]

Cause u B3 Nuke, then enter -> into full burst mode

[pale knoll]

Gonna record it later, should be fun

[quick lake]

Nuke happens, when B3 button is pressed, but FB bonus is after that kekeke

[pale knoll]

That's some bs tbh

Anyways thanks 👍

[lunar pawn]

ok I'm tempted

I'll get 1 helm dupe to see the cp difference

[pale knoll]

I'd like to get her 4 dupes

[umbral crown]

Thats why Ein god tier

[keen vapor]

Continuous damage

[lunar pawn]

before

after

just over 4k cp boost

[tropic summit]

4k CP? 🤔

[lunar pawn]

meh

[quick lake]

[lunar pawn]

I do need to max her gear sometime but was saving the exp for trina

if I had her

[quick lake]

My pvp helm helped me in campaign

[lunar pawn]

well yea, tr helm is literally the best character in this game

meta in absolutely all content

[quick lake]

Now she’s my highest cp unit

[swift mango]

🤝

[umbral crown]

Since all is about sending a message

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

[quick lake]

Cappie Helm

[kind palm]

[covert lintel]

but someone here denied me when i tried to tell him to change naga into helmT for easier campaign

[quick lake]

I’ll do some testing to see if there’s any patterns in the stun or if its truly random

[tropic summit]

it's random, dude just gacha'ed their gacha

the idea although is interesting when at no stakes, imagine stunning B2 pre B2 (like a blanc)

[quick lake]

I was thinking of doing exactly this tbh

[kind palm]

I'm too tired of getting all other rookie def broken so my opponents will have to do 3/5 gacha when they hit me now

that's gonna be my def

[tropic summit]

wild but sounds fun

[kind palm]

soda will get some reward with some OLs LOL

[tropic summit]

fascinating the bait teams one can come up with

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Trina+Soda+2flex 2rl team. Would be pretty viable I suppose.

[covert lintel]

will a proper jackal feed team lose to soda?

[swift mango]

2rl, can't be faster.

So long as Soda isn't killed by counter.

[kind palm]

need to be kinda 1.4RL if you ever achieve that to B2 before 2rl B1 or something?

[swift mango]

1.5rl should be enough but it's very expensive to get to.

[kind palm]

if only I can consistently get rapunzel to <30% hp for whole team B1 stun
then we get maxHP battle start buffer

[covert lintel]

so soda is hidden gem
i'll try to build later when im done saving mat for trina

[kind palm]

but introducing rng into sp def team can cost your opponents their attempts

[swift mango]

You would need to make a version of this guy in Nikke for that.

[kind palm]

so scar trina 2rl have 2/5 chance to win opponent strong B2 like noah even in 2rl speed

also the stun can just block their only B1 too to not let them do B2 burst

oh but that's too slow

cuz they kinda B1 at the same time

in 2RL speed

[swift mango]

If they are same speed then b1 burst same time, so the stun isn't gonna work

[kind palm]

yeah

[lunar pawn]

naga can be good in some scenarios, but overall helmt is better

[tropic summit]

consider also the case where opponent has 2 B2s and B1s, then the odds decrease i suppose

would take a special nutcase to run this although

[kind palm]

as long as I can stun noah
other b2 can't really protect I think

trina buff scar so much scar pierce through a lot of things except biscuit ig

[lunar pawn]

trina worth mileage if I don't get her on the last day?

[kind palm]

if you like this soda comp I think she's worth it lol

but if you just pvp enjoyer she's ss tier

[covert lintel]

worth

[kind palm]

cuz clipRL

[swift mango]

If Noah or Blanc is stunned there will be 2 unprotected burst 3 against each other. Rossana could help breaking Scarlet before she burst though.

[covert lintel]

oh nice i have core+2 soda

[swift mango]

CS now matter when 2 unprotected wiper wiping each others...

[lunar pawn]

soda comp?

[kind palm]

[kind palm]

this one can be good in sp def and rookie def

[lunar pawn]

MG in defense that's not rosanna?

[covert lintel]

my fellow union said trina can become a second electric team for UR

[swift mango]

Wait you mean this team against Soda+Scarlet+Trina? Blanc is useless if Soda doesn't stun Trina there .... It's basically 2 bare 2rl wipe fighting each other ..

[tropic summit]

hence nutcase

[kind palm]

I think 2RL B3 still burst before 2.5RL B2

[swift mango]

There is basically no benefit doing it. If Scarlet stuned and Trina isn't you would lose harder.

[kind palm]

so soda's chance is more than 2/5

as long as she stuns the right target

[lunar pawn]

UR does not need more electric teams lol

people do 2-3x more damage in electric than any other element

[sleek root]

Geez! Enough with more meta Electric nikke, give us water type ad

Meta Pilgrim dps please

[swift mango]

So end game DEF gonna be

2rl Blanc

2RL Noah

2RL Scarlet+Trina+Soda

?

[tropic summit]

that or 2 teams and 1 CP pad

mostly available to whales anyway

isn't soda countered by Ade just like privaty's stun?

[swift mango]

Whale could do 3 CP pad teams and it could be those 3 teams.

[tropic summit]

this works on stuns too?

[swift mango]

But You have to bring ade ofc.

[tropic summit]

just like opponent is bringing soda?

[swift mango]

Now it's the same mirror match that would be decided by CS.

[tropic summit]

mhm

throw a noah in there, make it 2RL and with ade, problem solved?

[kind palm]

even if my soda can't stun
the scar trina comp still a 2RL speed wipe

[tropic summit]

houston we've a problemo

[kind palm]

so opponent would be forced to do some 2RL B2 defending still

cuz trina B2 buffed scar so much she just wipes everything not indom invul

[tropic summit]

did you account for this too then?

[swift mango]

Or face tanking it. But it's when Crit built scarlet come to play for double the Gacha.

[tropic summit]

ade removes stun, noah is still 2RL, noah will cast before scarlet B3... no stun, no wipe

[kind palm]

if you use noah biscuit jackal helmT on one team then the other 2 sp team would be a bit on edge ig

[covert lintel]

the only team that can beat that consistently is ros sac ig

[tropic summit]

alrighty, can take away biscuit on a SR15 temperance noah

there we go

[kind palm]

so my def would not use helmT in sp
and be something like
scar soda(more atk to link jackal) trina centi jackal
still 2rl

[tropic summit]

the good thing is that barely anyone will have an ade readily available

so if anything it's gonna cost opponent tweaking CP around

the idea is still good, just not unkillable/unavoidable

[kind palm]

gonna build my soda starting tomorrow lol

[tropic summit]

yeah it's worth a shot

[kind palm]

yeah atk favored meta

[tropic summit]

ppl won't be prepared at first

and indeed, noone will set an ade on def

[lunar pawn]

an ade to counter soda attack teams? eh

[kind palm]

some still won't always fully be prepared cuz it still rng targeting

and crit s2 scar rng

[tropic summit]

gacha within gacha

[kind palm]

[sinful copper]

Is there a list on how to build any character for pvp. For example I only have my jackal 5/5/5

[kind palm]

you can start by reading pinned

[sinful copper]

Ok thank you

[kind palm]

cuz before start building you might want to know the pvp terms first

[umbral crown]

He got the message but sent it back to hin

[swift mango]

Malding campaign is a pain

I'm gonna need 4 Ele Red hood one of those days.

[covert lintel]

he happy you use gem

[eager mountain]

not worth for the slight cp pad

but can certainly 4 elem rrh

iron weak campaign and fire weak already ez before rrh tho

[swift mango]

4 Ele rh to break iron weak stages.

[eager mountain]

wont help but only for those stages
more universal ones worth more investment imo

[shell hazel]

my RH is not perfect but I did mange 4 ele one

[eager mountain]

since its campaign meta units

[umbral belfry]

Must be nice having rh

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

Getting 2dps with 4 Ele for every dmg type is true campaign end game.

[pale knoll]

@tropic summit

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

far from perfect

[covert lintel]

just use sw to snipe the boss

[eager mountain]

and yet, usually it still be alice/rh doing heavy lifting in elem neutral stages

[covert lintel]

i used her when in iron weak stage

[eager mountain]

its just for the best of other elements not campaign hard meta themselves

[swift mango]

There is no Ele neutral stage if you have 2 dps with 4 Ele of every Ele.

[kind palm]

so is soda random stun tauntable?

[eager mountain]

theres no elec alice no water alice no wind alice its not rocket science they cant do her job in most mob stages

and thus still using alice there

or spell alice as rh u get the same idea

[covert lintel]

it should be tauntable

[lunar pawn]

[covert lintel]

even cindy is tauntable

[swift mango]

Alice only with PC and Macro-like action can do lots of dmg. 4 Ele Scarlet deal much more dmg than Alice in mob stage otherwise.

[eager mountain]

and you know why i didnt say theres no iron alice

[swift mango]

I was talking Elec wtf...

[eager mountain]

u were talking about other elem carries in campaign

when u will still use alice equivlent in those stages

rocket science

[covert lintel]

underestimating lap+ and sbs dmg

[swift mango]

RH was the first thing I talked about until you mentioned Alice.

[eager mountain]

they are the same thing

and was talking why universal carry like rh doesnt need elem but some niche carry there

[covert lintel]

centi should be in p2 and rh in p4 to avoid sbs skill

[swift mango]

Alice is fps heavily, PC heavy, ESC button heavy, Macro heavy. RH does same dmg whether you have those or not.

[eager mountain]

they are the same thing its not that diffcult just replace one when u cant use another

[lunar pawn]

problem there was the burst gen, not the damage

[eager mountain]

its not that complicated

[swift mango]

Alice is nowhere near RH easy of use for mob stage. Without a PC and high fps, ESC button to move the cursor fast to chase mob and prevent jump, her dps plummeted

[eager mountain]

and the point was something as simple as "rh dosnt need 4 elem in campaign" since she is universal carry while u can 4 elem others

[upper zephyr]

@shell hazel so the person who i have been trading places with the most recently failed to beat me so i would certainly say the teams an improvement

[covert lintel]

i see, i thought you failed to kill rapu is because your b2 is rh not centi

[eager mountain]

they do the same thing thus they are the same thing but alice has those things in mind
doesnt change the statement
you are just trying to nitpick as hard as possible

[swift mango]

The point wasn't ever RH need it or not but I want it or not. It's true that with Ele RH will kill Iron weak better what's your deal?

[eager mountain]

gtg

[swift mango]

[eager mountain]

and thus u think she "need it" or a "need it" equivlent but in diff terminology

thats how i should pharse it for you

gtg

[swift mango]

[pale knoll]

Rh doesn't deal same dmg as alice if equal investment

[swift mango]

I don't have the books to build RH rn...

[swift mango]

RH deals much more dmg without Macro-equivalent actions. Alice deal more if you decide to do it.

I heard Alice macro being pretty safe all things considered. Many use it. So no need much skill if you have PC.

[pale knoll]

No, manually using alice properly will net more dmg. If you got boomer hands it's not my fault

[swift mango]

That's what I said.

[pale knoll]

Yeah, manually playing her yourself

No need for macros to make her better than rh dps wise

[swift mango]

But macro exist so if I played PC why spend the effort to spasms my finger?