pvp-arena

[keen vapor]

Then what as third DPS

Summer Anis dies to Scarlet indom

[quick lake]

Whew

[graceful grotto]

They should give out easy mode to let players play the story themselves

[tropic summit]

i'd say wishlist asap:

noah, jackal, rumani, get helmT s1 lvl 10 stage 2, get trina

then you could bother making 3 actual meta teams.

As you're right now, just CP padding on 4RL is probably ur best bet

[graceful grotto]

The fact that even basic story mode can be difficult is not great

[shell hazel]

but I kind of understand, it's hard to tailor all events to give 0 spoilers to current people

[tropic summit]

box doko? let's get cookin'

[quick lake]

Yall havent experience what day 1 players experienced, how everything aligned when Modernia returned. Honestly, the first 6 months of Nikke story/gameplay was really masterfully crafted

[shell hazel]

I did the side story recently for crown/mod was really fun

[jagged mesa]

yeah i have noah and jackal on my wishlist. i'll add rumani

as for helmT... i'm completely cooked on dolls, im at chapter 30 with one single SR15 because i failed every single gold kit and pitied on my sole SR15

as for trina, i actually pulled crown earlier on a single pull trying to get trina lmao, i guess i can keep trying but im thinking of holding gems... not sure

[crystal flicker]

you mean masterfully bugged

[tropic summit]

Rheax sensei has seen things we mere mortals couldn't imagine

[graceful grotto]

also triple win, it’s been awhile

[quick lake]

That too

[shell hazel]

make sure you don't use gold until at least SR-6 or SR-11

[quick lake]

I rmb prydwen had a "bugged tierlist" and non-bugged tierlist

[jagged mesa]

yeah i completely pitied, no luck whatsoever

[tropic summit]

well you badly need utilities and batteries, trina covers one of the batteries and can make an easy scarlet team going

[shell hazel]

if low on golds I'd go more purple/blues to hit next level

the golds are pretty rare, I'd probably SR-7 or SR-12 them if I needed to

[jagged mesa]

i went up to SR9 and SR13 😂

[shell hazel]

[jagged mesa]

i guess i could try to pull a trina.... hope i dont regret it for upcoming banners

[shell hazel]

trina is good, and pairs well with Scar

means you can run her jackleless

[quick lake]

depends on how much u pvp. Skippable in light of 2.5 anniv

[shell hazel]

gold mileage wins here anyway

[quick lake]

truee

[jagged mesa]

why, is 2.5 going to be a pilgrim type?

[quick lake]

yep!!

[shell hazel]

pulling for other stuff to get mileage is a possibility

[quick lake]

or overspec

[coarse solstice]

Siren

[shell hazel]

was gonna spoiler tag it

but yep, her

[jagged mesa]

urgh im scared to pull though, because i got absolutely cooked on eva banners

[quick lake]

we still dont know anything

[coarse solstice]

My bad

[crystal flicker]

2.5 is someone and 3.0 is Liliweiss

[keen vapor]

I have Rosanna no overloads and very few credits

[quick lake]

3.0 gonna be double banners

[keen vapor]

Blood recommended me a Cindy indom at 4RL

[shell hazel]

based on SU advertising think we're pretty certain who it is

not sure if we get a 2nd unit to pair with it though

[jagged mesa]

would you guys say trina is a MUST PULL if i want to keep up in pvp?

[keen vapor]

3.0 Lili and Pilgrim duo

[shell hazel]

personally? yes

[rich agate]

Alright thank you. Mari worth investing into for pvp im guessing? It looks like trina is looking like a good scar buffer, would she be better here?

[keen vapor]

Uh huh

[jagged mesa]

shiet

[swift mango]

It's as if you don't do that for everything already.

Scar-Jackal and Noah+Biscuit can beat everything.

[shell hazel]

high burst gen (general)
scar + moran buffer

[quick lake]

Nah, Mari not as useful now cause of Trina

[crystal flicker]

Tbh I don't know if they'll bring off-spring as Gacha or Liberation

[quick lake]

pvp gang in general would say pull but imo can wishlist and save for 2.5 optionally

[keen vapor]

It is if you face Bay and your last option available is using Scarlet

Is very situationnal

Maybe not so much on Champion Arena, who knows

[jagged mesa]

standard banner is a complete scam for me LOL

[quick lake]

ya, im scared too. So I pulled

[rich agate]

Thats what I figured. Whats the recommened skill level for trina right now then?

[keen vapor]

I have no Anne (or Trina after 44 pulls) so this is what I used as replacement

[quick lake]

1/7/1 -> 1/10/4

[jagged mesa]

alright alright im gonna dedicate one multi to you guys right now

[keen vapor]

Pog

[coarse solstice]

Gotta pull for milk momma regardless 🙏😇

[quick lake]

Ya! Trina is so pretty! Love her character

[jagged mesa]

wtf....

[quick lake]

wrong mummy milkers

[keen vapor]

😭 😭 😭

[rich agate]

Damn thats not too bad at all then. I shouldve checked prydwen before I asked but thanks for the quick reply

[swift mango]

Just 1 pull it, easy

[crystal flicker]

Overspec Absolute

[quick lake]

prydwen recommendation was 4/7/7 iirc, I personally think s2 most impt, and s3 low impt

[jagged mesa]

i keep pulling non-banner SSRs

i think i got like 4 random SSRs instead of rei

but on the bright side i got my first crown on a single trina pull earlier, worth

[quick lake]

WIN

[coarse solstice]

Crowns better overall

[quick lake]

Ya, crown giga good

[keen vapor]

Not on PVP

[shell hazel]

crown > all

[crystal flicker]

That's a sign, we're gonna get Chime for 2.5

[coarse solstice]

I said over all

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

Pull better

[crystal flicker]

Crown Chime duo

[rich agate]

Ahh I see, ill just follow your reccommendation for now. Im sure well get more solid info as time passes

[lime night]

is there currently a best Rookie Arena team def?

[shell hazel]

any def can be broken

just need the right rock paper scissors

[placid bloom]

best def is to be 2x everyone's CP

[swift mango]

Auto then add Jackal

[lime night]

damn thats tough

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/hunter-hunter-hunterx-hunter-rock-paper-scissors-rock-paper-gif-5264587

[quick lake]

#1348936199821070407 message
Prydwen's tentative recc

[jagged mesa]

the whale in my bracket is doing this and is 5x battling me every single day to push me down

😔

[shell hazel]

some dude trying this with me I'm going to see if I can trap them into a defeat by changing my def last min 😄

rookie arena doesn't really matter anyway

[keen vapor]

If Rail doesn't cooks my best options are 4RL Cindy or this

[shell hazel]

sp-arena is all

[jagged mesa]

ya but still unpleasant to be specifically targeted like this

[shell hazel]

meh, I dc

like someone hit me all they want

[swift mango]

38% Emi?

[shell hazel]

I'll hit em back eventually 😄

[keen vapor]

21% is enough

[jagged mesa]

i dont think i can though, that player is a big spender

[shell hazel]

you'll probably get shuffled into another bracket sometime

[keen vapor]

So, is essentially them with Adjutant
-# in my case

[quick lake]

rookie is meme

[shell hazel]

main thing is you want to win all your attacks

that is for challenge (more stuff as rewards)

i'm 1st in SP-arena and like 11th in Rookie, doesn't matter

[keen vapor]

Do that 50 gem wipeout then

[jagged mesa]

im broke

[shell hazel]

i've decided I'm going to try and do 50 + 70 wipeout until I hit 261 at least

[keen vapor]

[shell hazel]

theory is the 2700 - 3000 gems per sp-a season I get kind of pays for dumb stuff like that 😄

[swift mango]

But do you have 38% Emi?

[keen vapor]

Only two CS lines

You can spy me on blabla

[swift mango]

So where are you at on campaign now?

[shell hazel]

I was wondering if we could spy on anyone - it seems to convert the uid to a base 64 string

what is your share link / actual uid if you don't mind sharing it?

[swift mango]

That's if you are generous enough to unblock your default gear blocking.

[pale knoll]

If they have it hidden, no

[keen vapor]

You can even see my gems

[swift mango]

Gem is not blacked though.

[keen vapor]

It can

[shell hazel]

what does grok say I wonder

is your original UID something near to 22381124 Echo?

if not they've salted it somehow so that it can't be derived easily

if it's 22381124 then it's formulaic

[tropic summit]

weakness disgusts me

imagine losing with C7 and 14% deficit advantage

[shell hazel]

alright now go swipe Rail

[swift mango]

I only started doing wipe out after I cleared main story. 🐋

[shell hazel]

for multiple dupes 😄

[tropic summit]

the miracle of helmT

enemy scarlet didn't even touch me

[shell hazel]

261 gets me more outpost progress I guess

[tropic summit]

adding a new video to the collection for the ultra stall

[swift mango]

I usually fight my whale at 15.3% deficit.

[tropic summit]

i used to be able to, until C7 cindy happened

[wanton island]

alright...so whats a good scarlet trina team?

[swift mango]

You said you fight at 14% though.

[tropic summit]

this match yeah

[tropic summit]

14,5% deficit to be exact in that one

[coarse lake]

I've had matchups where both comps are higher than 15% deficit

literally cubing both comps so both can barely stay in range

[tropic summit]

the real struggle of fighting whales

fighting with your hands tied and blindfold

[coarse lake]

well now that I'm well out of range of all 3 matchups, ig a burden is lifted from my shoulders

I just... don't bother anymore

[tropic summit]

you've served well

[coarse lake]

it's peaceful, but boring

[swift mango]

Their scarlet is rather weak here. 101010 core 7 would wipe even with only 1 buff.

[shell hazel]

sounds like quitting to me 😄

[coarse lake]

esp with how garbage my rookie is

[tropic summit]

sooner or later these king whales will cut me off entirely with CP anyhow

[coarse lake]

having to get other ppl to test for me

[tropic summit]

somehow staying in range by saving up on boxes and min/maxing

while ultra maldin' HM

[swift mango]

Wait, is your team 2rl also?

[tropic summit]

yes that's a 2RL

[coarse lake]

it's discouraging when you have higher campaign progress, but the whale still outpaces you in sync

[tropic summit]

exactly this

[coarse lake]

bc they just buy all the event core dust shop packs anyway and easily make up diff

[tropic summit]

they're playing easy mode to be fair

[wanton island]

thats me

[shell hazel]

money shortcuts all things

[tropic summit]

then again, all legit by game design

[shell hazel]

they mean the actual cash shop packs

not the in-event shop

[wanton island]

yeah... thats me

[tropic summit]

i just personally wouldn't have fun knowing the game is serving me dinner and cake with 0 effort on my side

[coarse lake]

unless you're very far behind in campaign, a few core dust per hour doesn't actually mean that much surprisingly

[swift mango]

It's more discouraged when your whale actually mald campaign.

[tropic summit]

you've a job, a family and little time, you're excused

[shell hazel]

the packs with extra stuff? I buy some stuff but is mostly limited to gems/pulls/skins

[glad meteor]

I want to be like Russ when I grow up

[wanton island]

work tech where they force feed you money

[coarse lake]

meanwhile I also have to worry about creds

might have to buy some cred packs here and there soon

[swift mango]

My whale is at Boss 32 hard now at lv411. He is better than @pale knoll

[wanton island]

im like 2 or 3 chapters behind in my campaign progress

[swift mango]

[coarse solstice]

Or have a wife that makes an ass ton of money ❤️

[quick lake]

Just always choose 3x credits and u’ll be safe a while longer

[coarse lake]

yeah started doing that

[quick lake]

[tropic summit]

you've gotta be good looking or sociable for that, clearly that's not the majority of nikke players

[wanton island]

you did it right

[coarse lake]

I reroll dispatch anyway, so that makes up the loss in core dust anyway

[swift mango]

💪

[keen vapor]

Blood, where are you on campaign

[wanton island]

its lonely on my server

[coarse solstice]

Invested in a highschool sweetheart

[coarse lake]

my server so dead a meh mald f2p can top all charts lol

[wanton island]

wish i was on urwhat's server

[swift mango]

Just finished that stage 24-34 in 38 second and out of battery.

Gonna get to your point tomorrow when I log in again.

[keen vapor]

You malded that stage on ch24 ?!

[spiral onyx]

Spend effort to look good so you can get a wife who makes lots of money
Spend effort to make lots of money so you can get a wife who looks good (and cosplays Nikke characters for you)

[coarse lake]

the smart option is to just skip it lol, and come back to it a few chapters later

[swift mango]

Not even mald, just 2 tries. And cleared in 38 second.

[coarse lake]

ig at low enough deficit steamrolling it is fine too

[wanton island]

youre my spirit animal

[coarse solstice]

Why not both, I'm not sharing her DKW cosplay

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-thats-my-man-gif-17507326005836740313

[shell hazel]

god that Mana cosplay in reddit today 🔥

[keen vapor]

[shell hazel]

all me 😄

(inc the ones you can't see)

[wanton island]

da man

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-crossed-arms-pikachu-eyes-closed-pokemon-gif-15194868

[wanton island]

so whats a good scarlet trina team i can mess with in arena?

[shell hazel]

very few people competing for anything on my server rank anymore, get a gold profile thing in the end at top end maybe 😄

[wanton island]

i got lucky and received 2 trina dupes

[tropic summit]

how am I going to eat these 🍟 without sauce?

[shell hazel]

will I be killed for posting the sauce? 😄

[wanton island]

where is this mana cosplay?

[shell hazel]

||https://www.reddit.com/gallery/1jaktq5||

and now we hide

[wanton island]

good looking out

im sure reddit will now give me all cosplays as suggestions

[pale knoll]

Except I'm not a whale and I'm nearing the end of ch 31h at 43% deficit

[tropic summit]

DM exists dw

[wanton island]

just keep scrolling it

[shell hazel]

it's not as bad as youtube which is like "you watched 1 video of this now surely this is all you want"

[rich agate]

Besides the pvp guide on prydwen ,what other resources are there to help understand team building? I struggle alot making teams with new units coming out and changing things it gets super confusing. I'm probably just bad at it but trying to understand that pvp guide confuses the hell out of me when you factor in all the newer characters that have come out

[tropic summit]

oh that's pretty mild what are you talk- mother of god.

those legs tho.

[shell hazel]

I mean it could be more nsfw but damn, pretty nsfw right

[swift mango]

Excuse, he still has more progression than you at same level.

[shell hazel]

good thing shift owari

[tropic summit]

i've colleagues who play LoL with saucy skins, all gud

hell even my boss is a minecraft player

[wanton island]

to be fair, ive seen coworkers dress that saucy

[shell hazel]

I doubt my boss would be happy with me looking at that on work time 😄

in lingerie practically?

you have some great co-workers

[pale knoll]

I'm 401 wdym, also what's his cp

[swift mango]

He put lv1 nikke x5.

[shell hazel]

I've sent the sauce, what you do with it is up to you.

[wanton island]

in this day and age you cant criticize a chick's attire unless boob is showing

[shell hazel]

no refunds desu!

[swift mango]

Then clear up to boss 32 when you reach 411. I actually don't know since when did he stuck there.

[shell hazel]

I mean I won't complain even then, unless she is a whale of sorts 😄

[tropic summit]

Hi Jesus, i'd suggest starting with messing around with burst gen calculators and reading on the important jargon

Basics:
https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

Burst gen calc (mobile friendly)
https://nikke-deck.web.app/

Burst gen sheets (just dl a copy)
#pvp-arena message

Overall idea of what and why a meta nikke is important and how to use her:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R6qzhnPx85kEoYidYUs-K0hJy61APMQGj5nRSgdvRUU/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[pale knoll]

How much deficit is he doing

[swift mango]

Idk and it's just excuse. Get to his level, my man.

[pale knoll]

I'm f2p tho

[swift mango]

But still similar level. F2P malder supposed to mald harder.

[pale knoll]

whales have way more cores and way more cp even if same sync, what are you yapping about

[coarse solstice]

Buying core dust feels awful

[swift mango]

Excuse.

[coarse lake]

blood is his arena whale's personal cheerleader

[pale knoll]

Make sure to zip it up when you are done bud

[swift mango]

Excuse

[rich agate]

Ill give it a shot, I was using these before but I just wasnt getting a grasp on the teambuilding. I understand a decent bit about what roles certain nikkes play and such but when it comes to actually putting a team together its just falls apart. I'm probably just dense atp but thank you for the reply

[swift mango]

~~Watch as Havel wasted 3 hours malding out of sprite ~~

[tropic summit]

what i can suggest is trying making your own 3 teams and 1 rookie team then sharing them here and getting feedback

from that you can work out what you may have missed/misunderstood

[lunar dirge]

stop capping lil' bro

[swift mango]

More excuse

[lunar dirge]

Oil up

[wanton island]

yeah... fortunately its cheap though

[lunar dirge]

Let's see how you'll excuse that meat

[wanton island]

i only whaled core dust when another whale went all in with rapi rh 3* and a +3 dupe. he then whaled to like 220 immediately and then beat on me every day in rookie before he gave up on the game

i think he got buyer's remorse and stopped whaling after that

[lunar pawn]

started a sp arena fight, nikke crashed

[wanton island]

better than the "your nikkes are too busy" bug

[rich agate]

Last comp is my rookie team with the rest being my sp attack teams, I had my sp teams recommended a while back and I pretty much never really changed them. For rookie I pretty much just use this stall comp since the only other people above me are too high so I cant really compete

[lunar pawn]

at least I won

[rich agate]

I mostly struggled trying to figure out how to slot in newer nikkes or some I havent invested into but it would be worthwhile into these teams. I originally had SAnis in the first team but swapped in helm for the burst gen and buff but Im honestly not sure if that was wise or not

[wanton island]

could just practice in rookie arena and compare stats

[rich agate]

Its hard for me to do that because the cp gap is too big atp, the two above me I stand no chance and the ones below are too far down. Theres a few who I might be able to try but they dont usually have good defense teams

[lunar dirge]

sorry bro, your nikkes are busy, call them later

[coarse solstice]

I had someone do that and they were the only person higher than me in rankings so now my progress towards gold rings isnt even.....

[wanton island]

id still practice on the ones above and see how much hp you take

could also do shooting range and compare buffs/damage

railtracer's method is best though. he uses a burst calculator

[rich agate]

I could try that, I still run into the same issue regardless though where with my basic knowledge I just throw stuff at the team and see what sticks without understanding why. Ill try somehting but without good feedback its hard to understand what Im doing wrong

[lunar dirge]

Everyone that knows PvP does it

[wanton island]

i dont understand it tbh

[rich agate]

whats the method?

[wanton island]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/11KWYeyvef91A-vfFuqglJJ8-OhR90TcKFVpJ6Ny_5h4/htmlview?pli=1#gid=1990278246

[lunar pawn]

Tempering to lvl 7, or quantum to lvl 10 first? Or should I aim for 11?

Tempering 5, quantum 7 rn

[coarse lake]

quantum past 7 is very low prio

[lunar pawn]

So tempering to 7 and chill?

[lone sequoia]

cubes at lv7, more than that is for slots or cp, campaign resilience to 15 first

[coarse lake]

tempering you can get higher if you really wanna hyper invest into pvp

otherwise just use your highest lvl cube when you do need to cp stack

[lunar pawn]

Resilience is 15, bastion 13 atm

Alright

[coarse lake]

at that point destruction (the newest one)

[lone sequoia]

then go for 8, 10 or 11

[coarse lake]

gonna be bis for some raids

[lunar pawn]

The return of ssakura

[lone sequoia]

or you can keep your resources for CA or next cube

[coarse lake]

I'm pissed bc I'm literally a quarter of a cube away (50 chips) from jumping from 11 resil to 13 resil

happens almost every time, a few short, but this time especially pisses me off

[lone sequoia]

2 more weeks

[lunar pawn]

Resilience is still super useful for supports, even if you can't slot 5 for SR

[coarse lake]

I use it on almost all sr units, and on pvp units for cp stacking

[lone sequoia]

cp and hp stats help

[coarse lake]

but will prob shift to destruction for a bit after, at least until lvl 7

[lone sequoia]

damage to parts?

[coarse lake]

yeah

[lone sequoia]

good cube for crystal chamber

[lunar pawn]

Damage as strong element is still better at higher levels, so

[lone sequoia]

depends in the unit and the stage, more damage is always better (?)

[coarse lake]

yeah there's that, but dmg to parts is atk dmg, so diff bracket

[lone sequoia]

but you have different ways to get more damage

[coarse lake]

in sr teams without crown for example, parts should be better since less atk dmg to dilute

[lunar pawn]

Will depend on future bosses with parts

[coarse lake]

I prob won't actually lvl the cube until that happens

[lunar pawn]

Idr which was the last SR boss with regenerating parts

[lone sequoia]

behemoth

[lunar pawn]

The raid that gave 3x rewards

[coarse lake]

best raid ever

[lone sequoia]

i got sick that raid

[unique mountain]

Behemommy got sick of being pummeled as well

[umbral belfry]

Sorry

in my defense I just go after whoever is #2

[jagged mesa]

LOL FAIR

[lone sequoia]

only 1 hit per day and no more than 2 days in a row against the same person

but i x5 some people during the first week to test comps

[umbral belfry]

I would def change tia though 😭 your bisc keeps getting indom

[lone sequoia]

like, first week in rookie arena doesn't matter

you can get top3 in the last 3 days

[jagged mesa]

its the comp that lets me stay afloat at r2 so ill just leave it for now

[umbral belfry]

Then I will leave you alone I'm sorry again LMAO

[jagged mesa]

its ok all's fair in pvp

i float at 2 anyways

[umbral belfry]

[viscid urchin]

Hey there guys I kinda need to upgrade my DEF comps for SPA. Can anyone help?

Here’s what I currently have on DEF. Team 3 is the least capable but I am unsure what would work

[dire root]

Well I went from holding challenge 3rd and 4th to diamond 1 pretty fast.

mostly out combat powered by everyone in challenger at this point.

rip

[eternal finch]

Ok this worked but there 1 one player that swapped teams and beat it. Any other variation?

[tropic summit]

post your box with nikke ordered by strength and we can take it from there, tell us also if you've helm treasured and if she has reached stage 2 and s1 lvl 10

[forest solstice]

any improvements I can make here?

[viscid urchin]

So it might just be faster today what I don’t have. As for Helm, Treasure is fully upgraded but her skills are 1/1/1 (she was reset like a year ago because I wasn’t using her for anything)

But if you guys need by strength, that will take a while (the box is huge)

[pale knoll]

What's the latest in God comps for rookie? 👀

[tropic summit]

guess you can try this, T3 has a trap depending if they bite

[viscid urchin]

Here’s all that I got that matters (not included: the R Nikke)

[tropic summit]

yes, progress in the game and try again later

your main focus is campaign team for now, don't bother with pvp

[forest solstice]

okay, is there anyone I should swap though?

[eternal finch]

Is there a faster way to get Helm+ maxed? I only get 3 boost a day and will take like months to get her maxed on treasure.

[tropic summit]

nero moran helmT biscuit flex
noah noise helmT biscuit flex
noah biscuit helmT rapu laplace

[wise horizon]

i tried it and it was down to emilia and noah in the end and lost. maybe it was just down to RNG in the end

[tropic summit]

can run this i suppose

[tropic summit]

nope, no faster method as far as i know, maybe p2p players can tell you, ask in question chat

[tropic summit]

get ammo and resil on emi, how much ammo OL does she have?

[forest solstice]

thank you so much for the help you’re almost always answering people’s questions here and I respect it a lot ❤️

[eternal finch]

I only got 30. 50 to go 😭

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[dire root]

I feel like his combat power should be higher, strange. Maybe he doesn't have good investment into red hood.

[wise horizon]

no ammo OL and has vigor cube. i guess i should put resilience cube or wingman cube on her

[tropic summit]

oh ye that sucks for post nuke

try at least 1 ammo OL and resil, unless vigor is strictly needed to live

[viscid urchin]

Much appreciated. Oh if you are going to suggest Rumani, I CAN obtain her from the SSR selector from NYs

[tropic summit]

unless you missing a more meta nikke, go for it

[agile grove]

nameko didnt even struggle vs the cp var

im crying now, this is my official crying

[tropic summit]

might be a competent player, at the end of the day there's 2 teams out of 3 and he can just 2RL scarlet one and 2RL noah the other

to attempt defending against this one you probably need a well invested rosanna and some CS% on batteries, while going for creative teams

[eternal finch]

Any current build for Trina?

[lone sequoia]

xanne=trina

use her as a burst gen unit

[dire root]

I lose right?

[quick pivot]

Hmm, this is gonna be fun. Putting in my new S1 10 THelm seems to have helped a bit

[eternal finch]

Is she a 10/10/10 OL?

[lone sequoia]

4/7/4 or 4/10/7, higher skills if you want cp or pve use

my trina is 1/4/4

[umbral belfry]

@jagged mesaI'm all done for today, but yeah I'll leave you alone (unless yknow you crazy my cp gapped def ) I legit didn't realize it was that bad I'm so sorry 😭

[worthy sapphire]

lost my top 3 spot and now I'm having trouble even staying top 10 lol. any recs for teams? my helm has treasure and level 10 s1. I'm missing the rezero collabs too.
I have enough mats to invest in trina or whoever else I need to

[eternal finch]

what's the website you can no see your units without going into the game?

[tropic summit]

laplace treasured right?

[tropic summit]

https://www.blablalink.com/

[jagged mesa]

nono its ok LOL

[agile grove]

in that case, whats the best possible team composition for def and ill just focus on raising the units in those

[umbral belfry]

Another day of no t9m for my main

[jagged mesa]

i was just complainin

[viscid urchin]

Laplace IS treasured yes. 1/1/1 though because I never deployed her (got her late into year 2 of the game)

[jagged mesa]

dont worry about it

[umbral belfry]

No I legit feel bad 😭

[tropic summit]

there's no such thing, all defs are counterable unless you're a paying customer

hence why you really shouldn't engage with that dude, you'll just waste each others time and effort

[tropic summit]

make laplace 4/4/4 and helmT 7/4/4

[agile grove]

no no, i meant the one you gave last time, i'll set that as def and focus on raising those guys

[viscid urchin]

Can do. Any idea on company where they’d go yet?

[tropic summit]

this is a pretty stable one

[umbral belfry]

And OL my first trina piece and it's and nothing else game why do you forsake me

[agile grove]

this is much better than the last one, the only one i have to raise would be rap and rumani as opposed to 4 units

RunningCrying

[dire root]

I kind of wasn't expecting that, their scarlet went off and did nothing.

I guess low investment lol

they weren't at deficit so it wasn't that.

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind noir noise
scarlet blanc rh helmT jackal
crown sbs liter biscuit s.anis (temp CP pad team)

quantum on jackal, centi
vigor on blanc, biscuit, noise
resil on s.anis
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

notes: wishlist/build noah, rapunzel, raise CP on biscuit and rapunzel (4/4/4, 4OL lvl 0, R15 or SR5 doll)

[tropic summit]

sounds good, go with that

[pale knoll]

<@&946725432554836008>

[agile grove]

ah yes, [ stean mu community ]

[dire root]

Steamu

what is that? No website I have ever heard of

[pale knoll]

Did you see the brave frontier recoded? 👀

[coarse lake]

it's teemu but for games

[swift mango]

Steamfu

[viscid urchin]

Appreciated. Should I build them to see the current CP?

[tropic summit]

yeah can share that to see if we can tweak it further

[agile grove]

WHAR

[pale knoll]

Newish project to revive it

[viscid urchin]

Well it’s definitely higher than the 1.7 million CP on DEF I had before. But uhh why did you say to upgrade Laplace if she wasn’t going to be in the lineup?

[strange linden]

what skill level required for Trina to be good enough?

[pale knoll]

S2 lvl 7-10

[viscid urchin]

Also @tropic summit when you mentioned Rapunzel do you mean the Original or the Alt?

[agile grove]

lmao he clicked the stean mu link

[pale knoll]

Original, alt is trash

[agile grove]

why is everyone clicking the stean mu links

[pale knoll]

How do you know they clicked it

[umbral belfry]

Free steam card

[viscid urchin]

Understood. 1.86 million now. I really wish I did have Noah but I have not yet pulled her. I did put her on the wishlist though

[agile grove]

same link, surely, right?

[pale knoll]

We are on the same boat bud, she's been avoiding me forever

[viscid urchin]

BTW why did @tropic summit have me upgrade Laplace’s skills if she wasn’t going to be part of the DEF lineup? I am not regretting the decision (it was only up to 4/4/4) but just curious

[pale knoll]

She's gonna be used either way in offence or defense so it won't hurt to upgrade her a bit

Her main purpose is pressuring and has clip sg burst gen which is alright

[viscid urchin]

Ohhhhhh. Well fair enough. I like Laplace anyway

[agile grove]

WAIT THERES TWO CENTI HERE

[coarse lake]

fix that by pulling for trina

[swift mango]

Use Sr Anis

[viscid urchin]

So while I run the basic stuff in the meantime, who should I start working on OL? Jackal? Noise?

[pale knoll]

You'll full OL both eventually anyways

As long as you have the core pvp units OL'd

[viscid urchin]

Oh answered my own question. I left Noir and Blanc with 3/4 OLs. Might as well work on those as time goes on. Thanks a bunch

[pale knoll]

1 rock is fine on each piece, unless you are looking for more lines for cp padding, or more charge speed lines to increase burst gen

[viscid urchin]

Well I got a few to spare

[agile grove]

RAILTRACER WAAAAAAAAAAA

[umbral belfry]

pls spare one

[viscid urchin]

3000 gems please.

[coarse lake]

[umbral belfry]

[coarse lake]

dude saving for nikke 3

[viscid urchin]

I didn’t call myself “Hoarder Supreme” for nothing

[strange linden]

already a trina, I use this comp before but would that work against her+scarlet?

[pale knoll]

Yh

[swift mango]

I give you 30000 gems for your rocks.

Fair

[swift mango]

Ofc it work

[keen vapor]

I can make it 60k gems

[swift mango]

60001 gem

[keen vapor]

90k

[strange linden]

in the end I found a better a better guy to beat, I didn't even checked cause he had 50 levels above me but actually had bad team compositions

[finite wedge]

it's almost time to crack open core dust cases to keep up with my sp bracket

[keen vapor]

Same

[finite wedge]

(when did we get a slow mode in here)

[keen vapor]

what

[keen vapor]

Is 5 seconds, can you write faster than that?

[finite wedge]

Just wahing at the whales in my bracket

[tropic summit]

you'll lose helmT while noah will tank rosanna other hit, you'll both be bursting at 2RL (due to jackal feed mechanic), you'll absorb scarlet while they'll facetank cindy, dying after burst or shortly after to post burst while you're invulnerable

[finite wedge]

Not on mobile with my old man fingers

[keen vapor]

See?

[strange linden]

oh I had OG anis on my scarlet team on DEF, just switched her with trina, got more CP and more useful as well

Is OG anis actually relevant for SP Arena? We have so many SSR clip RL now

[tropic summit]

for CA maybe later down the line, with addition of helmT and trina she's less needed now

ppl without emi can still use her if anything

[strange linden]

at least I don't cripple my cp now

[swift mango]

Yeah, first time for me.

[strange linden]

Trina's best cube is quantum right?

[bleak shale]

Everyone's best cube is quantum when it works

It's also the worst cube when it doesn't work

Refer to estimates when it comes to quantum

[swift mango]

Well, not if it's lv14-15 like Keripo's

[low lance]

Why laplace and not jackal for example in this last team?

[bleak shale]

ok but what if u have a lvl 14-15 charge speed or tempering as well

if the cube levels are equal and it does nothing because you didnt reach a breakpoint its simply the worst cube

[tropic summit]

jackal doesn't necessarely become always an asset, as damage sharing with an elem. weak nikke may be detrimental

[shell hazel]

Railtracer, what's for dinner?

[tropic summit]

bay is a very good example, jackal the same albeit limited to 3 instead of 5

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

the moment you're sharing dmg, if the nikke who's sharing is elem. weak to a source of dmg, you're distributing that to everyone

e.g. making helm linked means s.anis is gonna eat your link alive

[swift mango]

Doubt. Keripo also doesn't have.

Yet

[low lance]

Oh okay, tried that team against a scar jack

Fun

[tropic summit]

always good 🍿

[shell hazel]

popcorn!? got it 🙂

[swift mango]

Overspill burst gen isn't that bad, in case someone ded midway by normal attack.

Part destroy cube is the worst cube for arena.

You don't want to destroy those covers early and reduce the burst gen.

Wait, Hit rate cube even worse

Does absolutely nothing

[bleak shale]

if a rl/clip rl died ur probably not making up a shot with quantum

also im not sure part damage works on cover

but it would be about equal to a quantum that did nothing

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

Well, cover is counted as part in arena.

[bleak shale]

Have u double checked it tho cuz usually part applies DMG to the body in pve atleast

[swift mango]

@Merry

[bleak shale]

Like if I shoot cb face, his HP bar goes down, if I shoot cover it doesnt

[swift mango]

I'm gonna test that cube on cover in rookie later then.

[worthy knoll]

Oh it didn't send again, got filtered out

Oh well.. Too lazy to retype that

[shell hazel]

screenshot and paste ftw

maybe you accidentally mentioned mangoman

[worthy knoll]

It got deleted and only warning message showing

[shell hazel]

mangoman got me once

[bleak shale]

Can u type it again in my DMS

[worthy knoll]

Been warned by Dyno, watch your language @worthy knoll

Too lazy to retype it, I'll just play ETE

[tropic summit]

we'll never know what kind of wisdom @worthy knoll wanted to share

[pale knoll]

[tropic summit]

at least it worked twice

[umbral belfry]

sp bracket attacking everyone but me

pls i wanna test stuff

[worthy knoll]

I wonder if that player is Watching Bang Dream

[pale knoll]

I ended up changing the teams a bit since the others didn't really work

[pale knoll]

[worthy knoll]

This is what always annoys me if I type long paragraphs

In this server

[whole shell]

Can't even tell what's blocked smh

[worthy knoll]

Even the Watch your Language prompt just showed up for 1 sec and then gone

[drifting socket]

does blanc sanis kinda fall off at high cp?

[coarse lake]

what's tier 3 destruction cube value

[worthy knoll]

Someone tier 3 that cube?

[coarse lake]

the main sites don't show the value

ok it's allegedly 31.9%

same bracket as atk dmg

kraken tentacles are parts yeah?

[unique mountain]

Oh mygo

[pale knoll]

?

[oak gale]

@tropic summit the new skinwalker character worth for pvp? or nah

[unique mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/azumanga-azumanga-daioh-azumanga-osaka-osaka-ayumu-kusaga-gif-13569108542064050599

[pale knoll]

[tropic summit]

anis tier battery, sure is, combos well with scarlet but can also combo with moran

[pale knoll]

@tropic summit bro changed his defenses after the blunder

[strange linden]

is 4/7/5 Trina is enough for Scarlet to one shot the comp without the need of other buffers? I might take out RH if so

[tropic summit]

didn't last long tho

[pale knoll]

I still have another attack, so if he keeps wasting the chips we got, good

[tropic summit]

[bleak shale]

Yes same bracket as damage up, yes kraken tentacles r parts

[oak gale]

as a fellow pvp guy, i always like to shuffle around my teams just of those people in my bracket to accidentally lose to me 💀

[wanton island]

alright. who am i investing in after cinderella?

sbs?

[wanton island]

savage

[shell hazel]

you do eventually need her somewhat built

[wanton island]

you think she is 3rd most important bulldozer?

or should i focus on rapi rh and rh?

[shell hazel]

chapter 33 onwards def needs her somewhat ready

she's decent in pvp too, if you're miles off chapter 33 then you could focus RH / others some for now

[wanton island]

can i skip sbs with this?

[shell hazel]

no

[wanton island]

ffffffffccccckkkkk

k so sbs has to happen

[finite wedge]

if you want to deal with volleyballs in campaign yeah

[wanton island]

i keep begging the shift up gods to give me sbs but i only have her 0*

[shell hazel]

it's enough if you build her ok otherwise

mine is LB0 as well

[finite wedge]

I mean just having a unit is 80% of the battle

[wanton island]

maybe i just need to put more into her skills and gear... i have neglected her

[tropic summit]

you sure you wanna skip this monster?

[finite wedge]

blanc o7

[wanton island]

k im convinced. i will suck off anyone for sbs copies and build her up after cindy

[tropic summit]

not many B3 that indommed can pull that off

[finite wedge]

I'm saluting her for doing her job

[tropic summit]

s.anis is a good alternative although

here's the indom version

[wanton island]

i only started when flora was released. unless there is a way to get her i dont know of?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/benjamins-buy-it-smacking-card-payment-maxed-out-gif-17243666829109634552

[finite wedge]

you'll have to wait till she reruns

[wanton island]

thats what i figured

[tropic summit]

s.anis maybe in 1 year next summer? doubt it will be this summer cuz she reran last one tho

[finite wedge]

she won't rerun during the summer event this time due to SU's new policy but she will eventually rerun

[wanton island]

holy shit. i gotta wait over a year?

[finite wedge]

an as-yet-to-be-determined amount of time

[umbral belfry]

[finite wedge]

because they still haven't rerun xanne who would be the first in line for the new rerun at a later date policy

[tropic summit]

forgive us hime, sometimes we forget there are also some ladies

[eternal finch]

should I re-roll my Centi?

[umbral belfry]

oh my pure eyes

[tropic summit]

get 17%CS, the rest can be atk% and elem.atk

[wanton island]

is that why i was timed out?

hahaha

[grand plaza]

Do you think I would win this? I am not sure how Jackal and Biscuit interacts

[tropic summit]

depending on cindy RNG, your dmg will be 2/3rd on linked enemy nikke, which are likely SBS and alice, depending on investiment although

that team is using jackal as invulnerable p1, you'll kill biscuit and possibly asuka, SBS and alice will be left alive with tiny bit of HP, you'll die afteward perhaps

oh but looks like it's a 4RL against your 3.5RL... if you're lucky might kill biscuit pre B2

then they can't burst past B1

wouldn't take the risk, but you're not guaranteed to lose either, it's still RNG on whether cindy nukes biscuit first or not

then again since you running 2 SG and quency, you'll kick enemy team past well into 3RL, you're dead

this is your feed against their jackal:

this is a minimal feed example instead:

[coarse lake]

that column is confusing, use gatrix calc if you wanna figure out feed

left number is if hitting 1 linked target, right is hitting 2 (p1 p2 linked)

[tropic summit]

yeah but in this case is just showing the obvious feed from 2SG compared to a non feeding team with most RL and SR

very basic, no need to min/max feed

[coarse lake]

I think the way to convert that column into actual feed

is to divide by 10, then multipy by 3.55

[tropic summit]

[coarse lake]

just use gatrix calc, it does it for you

[tropic summit]

okie

[finite wedge]

I suppose it's time I re-evaluate my defense teams to add HelmT and possibly Trina

[tropic summit]

you had a lot of hopes for that moran

[coarse lake]

actually I think you find out how many 10s can fit in there, so 38 bullets = 3, 32 bullets = 3, 41 bullets = 4

then multiply by 3.55, it's a hassle tbh

[grand plaza]

I barely understanding the talk above haha

[coarse lake]

rip, yeah ig just a strong nuke kills it

[grand plaza]

This looks like gg from burst gen but I am just curious, if I can burst, would Quency be better?

I heard Biscuit counters that but I am not sure how

[coarse lake]

but realistically speaking what team without noah, bay, or blanc can stay intact and working after a strong enough cindy nuke

should still suffice for champ, for sp likely not, unless your other 2 teams are extremely robust

[tropic summit]

that jackal team has 1 huge weak link, that's biscuit in p2 as the only B2

if you kill her, their whole chain is broken

[coarse lake]

they prob can't make a bay team live through it actually, gonna be real difficult to cook

so in champ it should make them waste at least noah or blanc, without using either yourself

ig could take out biscuit to be even cheaper

[grand plaza]

The thing is I won't be able to burst before them, so I am wondering whether Quency or Cindy would be better for after

[tropic summit]

definitely cindy, quency is on the weaker side

but you should reconsider that team, aim for a 2RL quick burst and kill biscuit

cindy is a delayed kind of nuke, not the one you want in that scenario

[grand plaza]

The highest burst gen I can bring is not invested Noir which drops CP by almost 30k

[tropic summit]

you can't run SGs against jackal

you might want to skip that enemy team altogether and focus on the others

[coarse lake]

a 3rl cindy nuke probably works

[grand plaza]

He is challenger 10 so I was eyeing for it but I guess that's his win.

I kinda want to try it tho lol

[tropic summit]

well as eon said it might work

i just personally woudn't hit that team, but the other 2 if they're easier

[grand plaza]

Actually... Higher cp team is easy win when I look at now

[tropic summit]

yep, problem solved, although if you feel adventerous go ahead

[tropic summit]

5RL team, you'll burst at 3.5RL, should be fine, keep in mind enemy noir will shoot p5

you can move cindy in p5 to tank SG dmg with decoy

on the other hand you can put cindy in p1 in this specific case since only 1 RL splash

[grand plaza]

I went adventurous and won

[tropic summit]

dayum

true gacha player

[grand plaza]

Haha :D

I was really curious tbh so I just said duck it

Cindy pretty much wiped them clean even tho they burst first

[coarse basalt]

TLDR:
T5-electric raid viable, but T5 is usually not a good recommendation
For PvP lovers tho, go for her
https://youtu.be/ffbEP3EsLpY?si=Gx_BmMa5na-UIQWk

[pale knoll]

Pvp lovers already got her without needing any vids

[coarse basalt]

No vid needed for pvp ye

[bleak shale]

i dont think pulling/investing team 5 is ever a good idea personally

because every SR we get a new unit of that element

team 5 is mostly "leftovers that i used in the past" imo

[coarse basalt]

Ye t1 - t4 the ones that matter.
T5 naturally form on its own, formed by the ones get relegated from their original position

[eager mountain]

sometimes T5 is more like "weak characters that have strong synergy", so that primary nikkes can be used for t1-4
SG for example
same for sw team and scar trina

[drifting socket]

scar pre invest from PvP though 👀 free investment

[bleak shale]

i mean last time we had electric sr we used scar anyways so trina would have been a buff im pretty sure, the problem is, will a new unit + one of the dps falling down take that spot

[covert lintel]

and then siren have AR electric too

[bleak shale]

iirc top 4 ranks didnt use RH in last SR, so as an example would electric dps being booted like ein + RH with a good buffer be > scarlet + ein with trina

[raven plover]

leek?

[eager mountain]

scar for elec weak sr is certain
strong enough for trina to challenge other b2? could be

[drifting socket]

will have all nuke?

[covert lintel]

no, guessing worst case

[coarse basalt]

Possibly, but I'm willing to bet she's water DPS pilgrim we looking for.

[drifting socket]

now that I think about it if she isn't water would b kinda weird

[bleak shale]

water sg carry pls

[eager mountain]

looks rl to me

[bleak shale]

it looks like a still frame to me

[covert lintel]

water pilgrim dps no one allowed except doro

[eager mountain]

i fear sakura + destruction cube does more then doro (nah)

[high stream]

Would you guys help me build 3 teams for PvP Arena to put in Synchro Device?

[keen vapor]

Siren could be wind bc Bubbles are full of air

Or she could be a stand user

[covert lintel]

that bubbles are nanomachine so she will be electric AR

[eager mountain]

nikke element rarely need to make sense

[eager mountain]

dont worry about sp arena for now, it will be one ok team + 2 highest cp team, sync centi biscuit and maybe papper anis

[keen vapor]

Noah Scarlet Centi Anis N102
Campaign team

Auto team

[eager mountain]

even anis has cp concern wont recommand running n102 there

[high stream]

Like this?

[keen vapor]

pepper is outsynched

[eager mountain]

but how tf

[keen vapor]

You need to finish more academy lessons for more synch slots sir

[high stream]

I have the synch slots .. Just asking if I should put those in now like that

[keen vapor]

Don't swear Anchor

[high stream]

Like .. if those teams are okay like that

[eager mountain]

2lb shouldnt be it, maybe its ordered by level?

[keen vapor]

Synch pepper, not Mihara

[eager mountain]

[keen vapor]

Do not

[eager mountain]

not like he will answer it anyway welp

[high stream]

Where am I synching mihara?

[keen vapor]

Synchro device? Again, not

[high stream]

No no .. You're telling me to synch pepper INSTEAD of mihara .. but i dont even have mihara in any of those teams

[keen vapor]

Uh, third team?

[eager mountain]

future prediction of mf ignoring input

[high stream]

Oh, lol. I didn't even notice her name

[keen vapor]

Very good

[high stream]

Okay, done

[eager mountain]

knew it since he ignore the rest of my msgs lmfao

[keen vapor]

Who are you

[eager mountain]

俺は俺だ！

src:
https://youtu.be/KLCMUHTiK4s?si=-xE3oeLAY8X_Ry20

[high stream]

Well .. can't beat anyone anyway it seems

That's slightly depressing

[unique mountain]

[umbral crown]

[pale knoll]

[dim escarp]

[vapid lake]

[rustic sandal]

yo, i actually never play arena and this is all i got (those in the red box are not built), should i play?

[sage burrow]

these guys scare me

they're gonna cook something to kill me

[crystal flicker]

what about other nikke outside the sync?

tbh since you're 160 walled, It'll be hard to compete for top 10

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/sour-lemon-poputepipikku-lick-pop-team-epic-gif-16566362

^ PvPers bonding over cooking for CA

[eager mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/pop-team-epic-chicken-or-beef-angry-gif-3833883762255722332

[tulip quest]

C.A is a myth, A legend

[spare nimbus]

any improvements i can make to my sp defense?

[keen vapor]

@tropic summit where's my defense I'll have to use Cindy 4rl?

[keen vapor]

Uuuuhh
You need Emilia on P2, not 3

So she can get Indom buff

[umbral crown]

[spare nimbus]

ok

[umbral crown]

Wheres your trina?

Echo

[keen vapor]

44 pulls
No SSR

[umbral crown]

You wasted gems on wipe out, now go and use them on pulls instead

[keen vapor]

How dare you

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Gems are not for pulling

Gems are meant to be hoarded

[umbral crown]

You would be noahless then

[keen vapor]

I'M NOT

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

I GOT HER FROM MOLD

[umbral crown]

But trinaless

[keen vapor]

I TRIED

[umbral crown]

Try harder

[keen vapor]

Next week so I can complete pulling mission

[umbral crown]

Oh

[keen vapor]

Liter is very

[rich quail]

[keen vapor]

I'll reach your synch one day I completed ch25 already

[coarse lake]

looking for a video of enemy p1 scar + trina vs attacking laplace with 0 cs

I wanna know if at 0 cs if only 1 shot gets blocked

[keen vapor]

Laplace whose shots are instantaneous

[wanton island]

im digging the trina scarlet duo - even in campaign

it used to be scarlet and cindy would do around the same damage but with trina, scarlet does like 2x-3x more

[deft sage]

too easy for me

[quick lake]

900 gems gone

[deft sage]

only 500

[quick lake]

And also rank 200 what

[deft sage]

because i have 4 free attempts from dev

[quick lake]

nice, reclaimed number 1 spot

[crystal flicker]

2-5 can contest that pos

and you won't finish at C1 for reward, coz 4 days diff

[outer grail]

is this team 2RL?

maybe 2.5 I think

[leaden canyon]

They did not add trina to this yet and she does do a little more gen than anis but this is pretty accurate I would say

[leaden canyon]

wait yours has trina

[quick lake]

Not updated

[leaden canyon]

nani

[quick lake]

Can refresh the app

[outer grail]

so I do really need helm to bring this team to 2RL

anyways could you guys have a look into this one

[leaden canyon]

yep that was the problem

[crystal flicker]

Helm needed

[leaden canyon]

If you have quantum level 7 cubes you can use those

actually quantum doesn't get it to 2, its 2.5

[outer grail]

so somehow my jackle got blanc skill2 instend of rrh and I lost the match but sometimes I won I think jackle HP is not enough?should I go upgrade her gear

[crystal flicker]

What about move Jackal to p4

P5 got targeted by Sniper

but ye the gear should equal

[leaden canyon]

Drake or lap

[outer grail]

I see thanks, jackal has more hp and def than centi, I think short term I have to invest in jackal's gears but long term I change rrh to helm treasure

[coarse lake]

problem solved

and that works even with worst case cindy rng gen (smol white gen)

[outer grail]

Its anis time lets go

thank you sir

wait nvm its quantum cube 7 mine is still lv 5

I will go for jackal gears that gonna be a stat boost for her

[solid flare]

so those 2 big naturals are pvp meta now?

and is a must pull just like rumani?

[quick lake]

Trina is great battery and good buffer yes

pull if u play pvp actively and have scar. Make sure u have enough gems spare for 2.5

[coarse lake]

actually I got a dastardly idea

[crystal flicker]

Mileage for Anniv

[coarse lake]

... if you utilize p1 rapu... and rely on them getting rapu to near dead before burst.... you should be able to stun a 2rl noah comp enough that cindy gets like 3-5 hits in

could also do this....

well actually at that point just run scar trina rosa

[worthy sapphire]

bump

[naive goblet]

need help with the best team i can make for rookie arena...this guys my main competition, we're 5050 winloss rn. neck and neck

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/home?uid=MjkwODAtNTQ5NjgxODU0NzM5NjczNjQ1NA%3D%3D

heres my roster

[quick lake]

Send from within game, sorted by cp, horizonal pls

[quick lake]

Laplace treasured?

[worthy sapphire]

yeah

[lunar dirge]

cry about it, 20 pulls

[coarse lake]

echo pvp bricking his acc further?

[lunar dirge]

first time?

[quick lake]

Auto the last team

[naive goblet]

which one, top or bot

this is for rookie arena

so only need 1 team, best possible combo

[quick lake]

If rookie, just run the bottom one

[naive goblet]

oof i am down to 123k cp with that

[eager mountain]

uninvested pvp chara be like that

still, priortize campaign and kraken metas at ur sync

[quick lake]

Hmmm, otherwise just auto ur rookie team

[naive goblet]

I managed to win with noah bisky sbs rh jackal

[quick lake]

Dont really have to bother too much with pvp this early on

[eager mountain]

and well its rookie

[naive goblet]

i like my 3k gem biweekly pay check

dont wanna lose it

[quick lake]

That's from SPA, which is 3 team

[naive goblet]

ah, well, I got a decent enough setup in that to top 3 consistently

[quick lake]

which I gave u 3 teams

[eager mountain]

then u can OL hard metas like noah ig

[eager mountain]

hi anchor

[naive goblet]

[worthy sapphire]

works way better than my old teams, thanks

[grand plaza]

Holy f what a collection, you were lucky with Pilgrims

[naive goblet]

yeah, crown evaded me for a while

since I got her I've blasted thru campaign

sbs kept coming from standard...

we are never giving up!

[eager mountain]

got both rh and crown without whaling?

[naive goblet]

nah i did whale for standard banner only

cuz i wanted crown. love her

Day 75

[eager mountain]

well, at least u got her
can get extremely expensive

they should rerun her gacha costume

tho ig wont

[grand plaza]

Its burst animation is... chefs kiss

[naive goblet]

I want to whale for cosmetics now

why doesnt shift up want money?

sbs, rh, crown, and cindy

need all their outfits....

[eager mountain]

tbh, not a fan of that burst animation
but that burst animation is pretty darn destinychild-like, art wise

[quick lake]

Pretty sure u can auto t3 and still win

[grand plaza]

My brain still can't process that you need to pay same money both for a single skin and their single player game Staller Blade.

So I just don't even think about it, these skin prices are absurd. Idc if it's same everywhere, it's absurd everywhere then

[naive goblet]

if its single player why not just mod it lol

i'd whale for nikke cosmetics tho theyre so good

esp now that I know naked king lore

i need

[grand plaza]

I didnt play it so idk, but I think it is one of the bests

[naive goblet]

why no reruns smh

[grand plaza]

I mean it's same price as the whole game itself.

It simply doesn't make sense that these 2 things have same value

[eager mountain]

"free to play" be like that

[grand plaza]

Best I can do is $5 monthly lol

And I will only do it if SU decide to give me Tetra attacker shoes...

Its been a month at this point and all my nikkes have shoes 💀

[eager mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-gif-27039576

[crystal flicker]

yeh gacha skins are too pricy

[eager mountain]

not really gacha anyway

cant get for free with rng

[crystal flicker]

with that same money I can get high tier Nikke costume

[eager mountain]

where can i get liberalio then

and any predictions for 2nd pilgrim/overspec in 2.5 anni
liberalio cope
nah

[crystal flicker]

Maybe you'll find Liberalio cosplay at Nikke con in KR or CN

that flying jellyfish is ridiculious

[eager mountain]

[wise horizon]

Thanks. What about T2?

[eager mountain]

they had this in a famitsu nikke edition back in 2nd anni

[unique mountain]

That shaney guy must be big sadge

[drifting hazel]

I see Moran in PvP in the high leader boards, how does one go about using her? I see she’s a taunter/tank.

And build like skills

[eager mountain]

expensive investment

[drifting hazel]

Rip

[eager mountain]

trina makes her work without an overly expensive team, but herself is still investment intensive

need more testing to have better conclusion

[drifting hazel]

Ok, I’m trying to pull Trina rn but I keep getting anything but her..,I got Doro and no Trina

[eager mountain]

but regardless, insane amount of investment still mandatory, so only for pvp malder imo

[quick lake]

Ur t2 is too fast. This should match them 3rl

[eager mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-musanpro-nikke-doro-dorothy-gif-16158099313532557237

[quick lake]

So cute!!! I should go buy that magazine

[eager mountain]

yeah i should get her hd image by getting the magazine

[crystal flicker]

I found someone selling her costume, but I can't find the cosplayer

[eager mountain]

not much of a fan of cosplay

[drifting hazel]

Not a cosplay fan

[eager mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/jjba-jotaro-eating-orange-jotaro-stardust-crusaders-orange-gif-18032306

[crystal flicker]

Though I just found out they already have her in game model since 2023

[eager mountain]

its usually more of photoshop rather then actually capturing and rendering a character's soul irl

[quick lake]

Liberalio has been here for quite some time

[eager mountain]

even a lot of material they used are made to be easier to mess with effects rather then looking realistic irl

tho, there are still good ones, that can address all my complains above

rare

[crystal flicker]

oh ye, I also found PvP comp from bilibili

with Trina

[eager mountain]

whats it

bad trina comp

[crystal flicker]

Is it though

[eager mountain]

jackal doesnt really solve the glass cannon issue, best hope is a real b1

[crystal flicker]

It's 1.5RL

[eager mountain]

good luck getting 25 cs

[crystal flicker]

[drifting hazel]

I mean character development is months in advance, like Nikke probably finishing out SB collab rn and next main project is next Anniversary

[eager mountain]

btw, id suppose cs doesnt affact animation speed outside of charging

tho, noah has delay, best way to cope 25 cs can work

[crystal flicker]

I mean this obv lower than 1.5 though

[quick lake]

yeah, doesnt affect

Motion delay value might be 0.20s according to magic

[eager mountain]

its not
and its not 1.66 neither
it should be 2- 0.17*2/1.233 = 1.725

[quick lake]

Cannot link to commcord?

[crystal flicker]

It's datamine

[quick lake]

But its inspect element on browser

[crystal flicker]

the formula

[quick lake]

true true

[quick lake]

What is the 2. 2 seconds?

[eager mountain]

1.2333? technical full rl to second ratio

need to test it more

[quick lake]

seems like it

[crystal flicker]

animation time?

[eager mountain]

translated to 37 frame per rl in pvp

one the frames are set any frame/detailed speed related discussion should be in frame/sec not rl imo
less confusion

[wise horizon]

biscuit is already used in T3

[quick lake]

T3 can auto

At 850k cp, its a 45% stat penalty for ur opponents

[wise horizon]

maybe im missing something here but where is that 850k CP you mention?

[quick lake]

If u auto for ur 3rd team, my guess ur cp should be around there?

[wise horizon]

if i put my PvE team in, then its 900k cp xD

[quick lake]

oh wow, then u'll demolish ur opponents

[wise horizon]

never tried to put a PvE team in though xD

[quick lake]

If opponent cp is low enough, can consider just auto-ing as CP team. Then can try working on beating teams 1 and 2

at 900k = 50% stat penalty, it means u have a free blanc buff and maybe half a Moran worth of dmg reduction maybe

[wise horizon]

T1 looks hard to beat. 2.5RL

[swift mango]

1.66 best but may not be.

20% on all of them at least.

But if the enemy has like 10% CS it's all pointless.

[swift mango]

Ideally 101010

S3>s2>s1.

Mine is 577

[swift mango]

It's 1.5 Moran and blanc worth actually.

---

Do you think it's worth it to daily 150 gem pulls? For more dupes on Arena units for CP?

[swift mango]

Have you gotten your Red Hood?

[swift mango]

Good luck.

[swift mango]

Well, look at the guy you want to def against CP.. see if your def team and their def team within 10% deficit... If they are more than 10% your def team CP, chances are, you will just be auto attacked.

[umbral crown]

Sadly nope

[loud sonnet]

[unique mountain]

[drifting hazel]

Oh dam rip

[upper grove]

No gems left, all tickets used, no trina

Waiting for SP arena rewards before banner ends

[pale knoll]

Rough life

[upper grove]

I don't want to test my luck with standard banner later

[vapid lake]

you're a 🐳 just swipe more

[lunar dirge]

get out

[swift mango]

How many pulls u did? 10?

[sage light]

I hate being that guy, but pvp team building just eludes me and I need help composing teams. It's okay if they're cookie cutter, I just need something decent to be absent mindedly doing my pvp dailies.

Here's how my account is looking:

I think I have most pvp-oriented characters, I'm just missing a handful (drunk Scarlet, the limited characters)

I'm currently using this for rookie, but idk what to use for Special Arena

[uncut portal]

I wanna beat this team but i can't find a way to fight.

[swift mango]

2rl ASS.

[tropic summit]

if rookie

[swift mango]

You don't even need 2rl since Noah taunt HelmT nuke.

Noah+Biscuit solve his team.

[tropic summit]

oh but rosanna 2RL will shoot s.anis and helmT tho