pvp-arena

[radiant storm]

You don't want Rouge?

[crystal flicker]

but this will be your main for PvE

[eager mountain]

most used elem based comp for elem neutral content
su intentially let pure elec team get away from elem qte fail for some raids lmfao

[crystal flicker]

My Rouge isn't built

[shell atlas]

I think I'll go for the Rouge / Blanc comp you suggested

But yeah thank you for everything Alt.

[radiant storm]

Either
Rouge/Blanc
Rouge/Crown
Rouge/Grave

[shell atlas]

.... No Crown but Core+1 Noah

[crystal flicker]

and that's Elec for MC clear yeh

[swift mango]

Maybe try to black lines you first team to improve it's cp then

[eager mountain]

thats really good lines
s9 mc should be nonissue i suppose

[crystal flicker]

oh ye, my ign also Rin lmao

[radiant storm]

Already done Mc Hardmode

[shell atlas]

by the way this isn't a joke, maybe my life is, that's why she's laughing at me

[eager mountain]

i doubt my 540 team has this dmg, might as well check

[crystal flicker]

On the good side, PvP cp pad

[radiant storm]

Here

[shell atlas]

Yeah, I love her in PVP .... if I had Jackal it would be even better

[crystal flicker]

How many Roccks?

[eager mountain]

yeah those are far higher then mine, s9 shouldnt even need much optimization

[wintry viper]

Thank you

[radiant storm]

S. Anis: 34 Rocks total (Includes Reroll)

Maiden Alt: 50+

Cindy: 61

[radiant storm]

Wait, when I tried this, only 5.6b

Probably lack in core and timing

[shell atlas]

What is this anyway, it doesn't look line Nikke UI

[radiant storm]

Blablalink

[spiral onyx]

Ok, I tried cooking a Moran + Trina build, it didn't work out

[eager mountain]

lol yeah 540 and not higher dmg cuz of lines and mid-invested xmaiden

[crystal flicker]

that moran is crazy

[wicked horizon]

Friends, these guys don't want to lose to me and go to Diamond, what do I do?

[crystal flicker]

Beat them

[eager mountain]

so far the most well rounded version we came up with
need bis invuln against invuln stopping lifesteal
not necessary expensive for sp, xmaiden is anti rosa back up b3/buffer, tho at the cost of potentially stealing bis invuln

[wicked horizon]

I don't know how though - it's difficult...

[crystal flicker]

That just pure cp pad

[wicked horizon]

It works though.

It's either getting through that, or getting through the two other cancer teams.

[crystal flicker]

491K
416K
412K

T2 and T3 is doable

[spiral onyx]

mm, I forgot about Biscuit lol

[swift mango]

Moran can't solo a protected DPS team so its result would still be the same.

[wicked horizon]

Doable in CP, but also with a team comp that I have that can get to that CP?

[crystal flicker]

why not

[wicked horizon]

Well, you can see my teams, I'm already padding just to reach those numbers. =(

[crystal flicker]

Noah Cindy T2, Scarlet Jackal T3

[eager mountain]

well... scenario and investment based
moran just an omega investment chara

[spiral onyx]

Works against SAnis comp

but not Scarlet god comp. Not sufficient sustain still

[radiant storm]

Sad for me, my S. Anis and Maiden Alt is Lb 0

[eager mountain]

can scroll around there, there were the testing attempts happen

[coarse lake]

yeah against some setups you want biscuit, some setups you want rapu for a second burst chain

[eager mountain]

scar god comp, such a rare species

[spiral onyx]

Scarlet god comp and SAnis Biscuit Moran comps are my go-to test comps

[swift mango]

You could see in his video, his Moran just doesn't have the dmg to get pass 2 healers. So Scarlet just killed his Moran overtime.

You could bet for HelmT once shotting Scarlet link before she burst somehow, otherwise it's still a lose. But at that point, just build a HelmT buffed once shot team.

[coarse lake]

I would swap out mana

for like rapu if going for heals

[spiral onyx]

dont think it'll make sufficient of a difference against that Scarlet god comp xD

[coarse lake]

or in that situation a splash dps might do it

like laplace

should get enough lifesteal

[wicked horizon]

I don't think 2 RL Scarlet Jackal at 412k CP is happening.

[covert lintel]

how can mana died so fast

[spiral onyx]

Of course though, 2RL Scarlet comp works fine

[eager mountain]

4v5 stall be like that
just scenario based

[wicked horizon]

This isn't even 2RL, and I'm already at a deficit.

[fathom rock]

Which team u facing

[fathom rock]

HelmT?

[crystal flicker]

You'll face Indom though if it's not 2RL

[eager mountain]

lol mana getting targeted first place there thats how she died rip

[wicked horizon]

Currently in Cinderella's team. I could take her out and replace her with Centi, but then that lands at a slight deficit.

[eager mountain]

both 861
current level cap i suppose

[spiral onyx]

I like this setup though, kinda interesting variant on the standard Scarlet Blanc Jackal team

[ornate mist]

@eager mountain may i ask what is 38% under emilia ?

[eager mountain]

38% charge speed (s1 + ol + cube)

[wicked horizon]

Best I can do

[ornate mist]

thx alot

[eager mountain]

#4irohasu

[wicked horizon]

Oh, no, T3 is not okay. Scarlet doesn't get link.

[coarse lake]

I don't think this really does much other than give you a better chance when using scar vs scar and dealing with laplace rh ig?

she's just there for 2 sec invuln

[swift mango]

25% charge speed from OL and Cube (2%} + 13% from skill 1 lv10.

[plucky charm]

will top beat bottom team?

[spiral onyx]

yeah, but Ive been short a clip RL for a long time

this just enables her as a usable comp for CA

[coarse lake]

btw does god scar win against that sanis comp?

[fathom rock]

Vs t1 :
Crown biscuit rapi rh sanis cp boost unit
Vs t2 :
Scar noah helmet laplace jackal
Send cp

[coarse lake]

and does the nero/moran/quiry/helmt/rapu win against god comp

[fathom rock]

Also ideally can we stalk bros emilia ol

[spiral onyx]

well yeah, any Scarlet Jackal comp wins against a SAnis comp lol

[coarse lake]

then moran trina isn't doing so bad

[wicked horizon]

wdym?

[coarse lake]

it wins against some common scar setups, esp the biscuit variant

moran biscuit sanis and the nero moran comp are the main competition it faces imo

[swift mango]

Not 2rl unprotected Scarlet vs 2rl Noah+ASS.

[eager mountain]

🤔 replacing clip rl to trina doesnt stop scar blanc being weak to rosa... sigh

[wicked horizon]

468.4k T1
400.7k T2

[crystal flicker]

I don't think they're have enough Nuke tbh

[plucky charm]

what if i change to this for atk up and swap rumani/red
the other team is 3rl noah emi

[swift mango]

If Scarlet Crited with lots of Crit dmg lines, yes.

[crystal flicker]

Noah invuln will block the Nuke

[plucky charm]

these are the three teams to beat

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Trina+RH+Centi/Rumani/Anis/HelmT/XMAIDEN+ Jackal should be fine.

[crystal flicker]

T2 just cp pad

[spiral onyx]

No idea what happened here

[wicked horizon]

I think the first team might even be fine.
Second team... Unbuffed Scarlet probably won't do much damage.

[plucky charm]

do i skip blanc on my team cause otherwise blanc gets indom on their cindy

[wicked horizon]

At 18.5% deficit.

[plucky charm]

idk if it will wipe before he gets indom

[swift mango]

2RL Scarlet with RH+Trina will wipe everything before Blanc burst.

[crystal flicker]

should be

[fathom rock]

@wicked horizon Another solution would be
Vs t2 : Noah biscuit sbs alice rumani
Vs t3 : scar helm blanc xmaid jackal
Check cp and jackal links

[plucky charm]

ight ill see if i can build triana and meet combat power gap

thank you

[fathom rock]

And if your helm isnt treasured please specify so

[swift mango]

You could use XMaiden or LapT instead of Centi even, because Cindy p2. An normal RL like Quiry would also do.

[coarse lake]

they were unable to dispel your link?

yeah they seem like they couldn't dispel scar link to jackal?

[plucky charm]

it moves to 3rl instead of 2rl, should i just keep centi to get to burst faster

[wicked horizon]

Jackal links are fine.
T2: 405k
T3: 398k
I don't think it's happening, chief. =/

[swift mango]

No need, if lapT help you to get over deficit, use her is fine (better keep Scarlet linked though)

Cindy p2 increase you burst gen

[eager mountain]

yeah more then 5 buffs

[swift mango]

So it's just luck.

[coarse lake]

their rosa s1 could be lower invest

[eager mountain]

indeed lottery

[coarse lake]

I thought there was some order to the buff removal rather than rng removal

[spiral onyx]

This is a gacha game

you thought you could escape from RNG?

[swift mango]

🎰

[coarse lake]

is it actually rng buff removal?

[plucky charm]

so this should be good?
I swapped the two teams earlier and the cindy vs cindy lost
oops i pasted them swapped

[coarse lake]

why is my rookie so damn boring

[swift mango]

Well, I didn't recommend the Cindy team.

Not my fault

[fathom rock]

Vs t2 sbs blanc alice xmaid jackal (check sbs hp lower than alice, swap sbs and alice locations if its not and give jackal quantum)
Vs t3 : Noah biscuit rrh cindy helmeT (risky trying to full tank enemy sanis and helmet will tank 2 sanis shots)
Cp?

[coarse lake]

somehow there are only 2 comps: fast noah or fast scar, and 90% of the ppl that do well enough to get in range use fast noah

makes it so boring

[swift mango]

Oh wait, I told you to use Scarlet to hit Cindy.

[coarse lake]

just emi nuke everything, can't test like anything else

[eager mountain]

pretty much all 2rl noah

so either have to lower score or wait for reset

[plucky charm]

this

[coarse lake]

lol the ppl that don't run it run garbage teams that barely function

[eager mountain]

and my sanis god comp wins against pretty much all of those

[swift mango]

Yes.

[coarse lake]

there are like 2 ppl that run proper comps, mainly the standard blanc emi rh, except their cp is so low that they get boolied down to the bottom of the list anyway

[spiral onyx]

Budget 2RL

[coarse lake]

literally the only proper comp I remember seeing in the past.... like 3 shuffles

[eager mountain]

lmao exactly the same for mine
we in the same group?

[coarse lake]

nah no way, your sync is way higher

[swift mango]

So you say your scarlet team lost? How is the cp?

[eager mountain]

number of blanc emi rh gets cp gapped, everyone else with high cp runs 2rl noah

[wicked horizon]

412k and 431k
But if I use Laplace instead of Maiden, it's 423k.

[coarse lake]

yeah that's basically my situation

and what sucks about it is, since everyone runs 2rl noah, everyone else runs the same, since they dunno how to deal with it otherwise or something

[fathom rock]

Do that, but make sure she wont steal sbs link or indom by having higher atk and lower hp

[wicked horizon]

She steals link.

[plucky charm]

no when i did cindy vs cindy it lost. i wasnt in deficit
i checked the damage and their cindy survived bc blanc got indom off

[coarse lake]

2rl noah emi nuke (unbuffed, does like no dmg to me), 2rl noah scar, 2 rl noah bscar

I don't even see 2rl noah cindy in the high performers

[fathom rock]

So alice lap link?
She have lower hp than alice?

[swift mango]

Well, Cindy lose vs Blanc+Cindy...

It's normal

[wicked horizon]

Laplace has lower HP than Alice, yes, SBS has lower everything than both.

[coarse lake]

they basically made me run my own 2.5rl noah emi just to deal with their 2rl scar attempts

[eager mountain]

well theres 1 2rl noah helm

[coarse lake]

the infection is spreading

[fathom rock]

well xmaid team can it be cubed enough to avoid deficit?

[plucky charm]

yea it was my noah team i was hoping it could just outlast it
kind of why i want to switch xmaiden to centi just so i can hit burst faster

[swift mango]

Then it's not 2.5rl Noah+Emi. Or their Scarlet being ass.

[eager mountain]

there were a lot of 2rl noah cindy back then but some run sanis after i sattle with sanis god comp and the cindy nerf move more of them toward sanis god comp

[coarse lake]

the only b2 they use for scar is either noah or.. naga

so what do you think lol

[eager mountain]

tho there are ppl using rh instead of noise, quite a lot

naga

[wicked horizon]

Does it even burst at the same time as they do?

[fathom rock]

Jackal gets fed to 3rl dw

[eager mountain]

noah is just too good especially when 2rl noah is free now

[wicked horizon]

Oh, right.

[coarse lake]

if they get brains to run 2rl scar trina and get in range maybe I'll change comp to 2rl noah emi

[swift mango]

Like I said, use fricking Scarlet to hit Cindy team. It will be 2rl. If you want to use Centi or Xmaiden or LapT doesn't matter, use the one with higher CP. Heck, you could use p5 tia if she is high CP and it's still 2rl.

I swear guy asking for advise but just doesn't listening.

[wicked horizon]

I worry they get fed to 2.5 though

[coarse lake]

I used to run the standard blanc emi rh

they would attack with I think is unbuffed 2rl scar

won like 1/10th of their attempts, so I just changed it to noah emi and they can't win anymore

now they running 2rl noah emi with helmt buff, but nuke does like half hp to me (no sustain)

[wicked horizon]

Yeah, I can get XMaiden team out of deficit with cubes.

[eager mountain]

before sticking with noah i ran blanc emi rosa there

[coarse lake]

I have basically 2 attack comps to deal with all of them

[eager mountain]

emi or god comp thats it

[swift mango]

Yeah very cute story of fighting a bricked guy.

[coarse lake]

god bscar, and emi nuke (both 2rl and 3rl versions cause why not, but I only actually need the 2rl one)

[swift mango]

🍿

[plucky charm]

it worked thank you

[coarse lake]

he's by far the least bricked

[wicked horizon]

Well, I guess I'll try.
Should I record it?

[fathom rock]

They most likely will

[coarse lake]

well, I would say that, except his #3 position in sp is getting taken by someone new like every other day

so I feel like everyone aside from me and the giga whale are all bricked, just varying degrees

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-food-aesthetic-gif-22271399

This channel cooking really hard

[eager mountain]

its indeed a lot of cooking talk

[wicked horizon]

Yeah, they need 40 feed to get to 2.5RL
Blanc feeds 27... I mean, if RL feeds 4, and Alice feeds 2... It's 41

Maybe their Scarlet isn't linked, what are the odds.

Laplace and Cinderella steal link.

[eager mountain]

cind has low base atk

[wicked horizon]

fug

fug id, I send and record

[eager mountain]

needs 50% more atk ol to beat scar base atk

[fathom rock]

Cindy stealing scar is copium maximum

[eager mountain]

[fathom rock]

Sbs will feed 5 and xmaid should feed 8
Alice only 2 and blanc 28
Still enough for 2rl if they have 1 quantum equiped or proc a scar s2

[wicked horizon]

Scarlet swiped 2nd team. 3rd team barely won.

[eager mountain]

30% of hit gen every 0.5%

so...yeah

[fathom rock]

As expected
Time to brainstorm some more

[wicked horizon]

Maybe I should take a different opponent.

[fathom rock]

@wicked horizon how much cp noise noah cindy helmeT rumani probably below 380k

[wicked horizon]

Noise isn't OLed.

[fathom rock]

What if
@wicked horizon sbs noah helmeT xmaid jackal how much cp

If scar higher cp can replace her with that

[wicked horizon]

402k

[fathom rock]

What about with rapi rh (2rl vs 2rl )

[fathom rock]

Instead of sbs

[wicked horizon]

How about going against a whale instead, might be easier.

[swift mango]

Xmaiden feed 8? How? In how many RL? Against which team?

[wicked horizon]

Oh heck, why's this guy not higher

[fathom rock]

2rl where she hit 2 linked enemy since single target feed is 2 no?

[fathom rock]

Easier to lose

[swift mango]

6 feeds. 2hit+1extra per RL.

[fathom rock]

Also THEIR SANIS HAS MAX AMMO

[wicked horizon]

Bro, he got everything.

[swift mango]

[fathom rock]

Good to knoe still ame issue

[fathom rock]

How much cp rrh noah helm xmaid jack

[eager mountain]

[shell hazel]

morning

[fathom rock]

Hello

[wicked horizon]

423.4

Wiat no

[swift mango]

🍉

[wicked horizon]

410.6k

[eager mountain]

not ammo but <9 b3

[eager mountain]

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-selamat-pagi-anime-nichijou-ohayo-gif-26848829

[shell hazel]

guy in 5th went on an attack last night, we swapped around a few places, result was right back where we all started 😄

and guy who was 2nd apparently used at least 3 tries to do it, so a chip or gems, not sure (2 on me and at least 1 on the other guy to swap to get in range of me)

[spiral onyx]

Ok, I got lazy and just went with a boring 2RL comp for Trina's showcase video. Tier list ranking S cause both clip RL and premium Scarlet support
https://youtu.be/k9o3PeguKkI

[coarse lake]

wouldn't showcasing it against a 3rl noah comp be best

allowing 2rl scar to have enough dmg to full nuke is her main usage

[spiral onyx]

that is a 3RL Noah comp lol

but yeah, its just a simple showcase to show that it works against Scarlet god comp

[wicked horizon]

I'll just take this guy instead.
I know he's chronically online and will take it back in 2 hours tops, but it's better than nothing.

[coarse lake]

Got enough feed to block tho

[wicked horizon]

Yeah, won that. Oh well, back to squabbling with him for the rest of the season over Challenger 10 position, I suppose.

[swift mango]

Snipe him last minute so you have 2 hit over him the next day.

[eager mountain]

thats what im doing against c3

and 541 soon no more deficit debuff

[wicked horizon]

Perhaps I will.

[swift mango]

Idk what the actual fc happened but okay I guess.

Just level up one and fix my CP a little... Yeah I should have focused on CP rather than CS...

Should have dealt with these guys easily with more CP I guess.

362 me, 372 the jap name gemmer, 411 the CN name.

[ornate mist]

Can i see ur def team?

[swift mango]

@keen vapor are you holding Challenger? Your 🧱 friend are doing his best right now.

[swift mango]

It's just some common cheesing teams...

[ornate mist]

Thx alot

[swift mango]

Don't go around telling others how to beat my teams though.

[eager mountain]

noise p1 rosa p4

[ornate mist]

Im rly newbie to sp arena

[quick lake]

Can reference these
#pvp-arena message

[eager mountain]

rail repost it already

when he at rail

[wanton island]

this game doesnt make it intuitive either

[ornate mist]

Yep i already read that

[crystal flicker]

I figured his comp, but I ain't gonna spend 100 gems to get C1

[quick lake]

Man, I wish we could go back to the times before THelm and trina

Pvp too fast nowadays

[swift mango]

But my bracket is still the times before Trina. No one using Trina if it means lower their CP.

[eager mountain]

[swift mango]

True reaction of peeps who focus on CS for RL and ignore CP.

[quick lake]

Cant defend like this anymore

[eager mountain]

most of my clips still at 9-12 cs, didnt really toss much rock yet

[quick lake]

17% cs on 2RL teams are useless

[swift mango]

Invest more to your helmT 23% CS should be able to catch 2rl. Same to your Emi.

There is no going back.

[quick lake]

Now we have TWO 2RL teams

[swift mango]

Or 3.

[eager mountain]

the faster the merrier anyways
and ca need

[quick lake]

Was thinking “hey, I can 17% Trina!”, but she’s gonna be on 2rl teams

[swift mango]

Good for you.

[eager mountain]

gonna see how ca goes before choosing to cs or build moran

[swift mango]

If everyone RL in her team is 17%, her 2rl team will be 1.66rl.

[eager mountain]

or neither and minmax liberalio

[quick lake]

Stiill not in time, I tried

[swift mango]

Enough to beat exactly 2rl Noah. Better be 20% CS to be sure.

[eager mountain]

issue is technically needs to be 21% vs 0% cs for b3 and enemy b2 cast the same time

[swift mango]

Noah has delay.

[eager mountain]

and in 2rl team all batteries and semi batteries needs cs to do this

[swift mango]

So you don't need 21% cs

20% is more than enough.

17-18% should be fine.

[eager mountain]

most would be 21
and depending on position... well... that varies

but thats assuming enemy got 0

tho if one of their battery is 0, its 0

[quick lake]

Will see if it works. Need more cs% on Helm

[swift mango]

Just need one of their RL to be 0%. Not that rare.

[eager mountain]

bad investment there

so yeah i got most clip to have 9 cs but none of them are high

[shell hazel]

my initial plan is to OL gear to basic levels then worry about roll to CS later, doubt anyone in my bracket is really that focused on pvp atm

too low sync

think I'll beat most just by doing *any * investment into pvp at all 😄

[eager mountain]

sync issue

[swift mango]

How tf you get 9 CS lines on one nikke.

[eager mountain]

i hope i can

[quick lake]

imo cs% not that impt nowadays. Not a priority at all

Cause everything is 2rl anyways

[swift mango]

CP is still more important. My CS investment isn't really wasted.

So long as CP still high.

[eager mountain]

just this
turning 3rl team into 2.5 is only 1 or 2 battery with 17 anyway

[tulip quest]

iNSANE

[eager mountain]

yeah im not rerolling initial 3 liners

[swift mango]

CS is still important in CA to get 2.5rl teams.

[shell hazel]

they really like spending gems huh 😄

[eager mountain]

should be

but need to dig frames a bit to vertify 17% stuff, ugh

technically its higher then 17% to be 0.5rl faster

[swift mango]

You can get 17%-20% CS with just 3 CS lines anyway.

[eager mountain]

but, 0.42-0.45 rl faster should allow 1 burst skill interval of speed gain

yet, thats for "2.5 rl" against 3rl team

"2.5rl" against 2rl is another story

and ofc, assumes opponent has no cs on last gen

[swift mango]

Technically, 17% is 0.5rl faster because 3rl still counts the bullet speed the same.

[eager mountain]

thus still semi bs in some sense

[eager mountain]

its not about bullet speed constant but extra count of delay

too lazy to endless clip and vod review to have better conclusion

[swift mango]

Well, couldn't be helped.

[quick lake]

I think its 21% tbh

[swift mango]

Well, just imagine this.

2 mirror Scar-trina 2rl team, the one with better CS win.

[eager mountain]

Well the same 21% there is for burst interval

[swift mango]

Both Noah and Blanc has 0.08rl delay.

[quick lake]

Indeed, the 2rl mirror matches have begun

[swift mango]

Lol

18% CS on all of them or go home.

20% to be sure

[eager mountain]

ugly number as expected
3 frames per 0.08rl sounds a bit fast there, 0.08 is rounded anyway

Helm needs less anyway

Having first rl closer to p2, the more cs require it takes

Helm’s case, if compared to p1 rl with regular projectile, helm would need 8-9% less cs in 2rl

In that case it’s 4 cs line vs 2cs line diff. If leftmost rl is p3, the number becomes like 7-8% ig, but 1% wont be 1 frame anyway

[swift mango]

You know, you could have won this if you used RH instead of Moran.

[quick lake]

yeah I know, was just testing some stuff

[eager mountain]

don’t think rh makes a diff there

[swift mango]

Yes it is. It make enemy team 2.5rl.

[eager mountain]

u sure it’s 2.5

[swift mango]

[eager mountain]

I’d assume it’s smaller, well… scar rng varies anyway,,,

[swift mango]

[eager mountain]

And if it’s not 0.5ish diff then indom still gonna cast

[swift mango]

Nope.

[eager mountain]

Typo

Or imma just frame track some stuff in 30 frame union practice mode, then add things up, easier that way

Inconsistencies could be from internal rounding

[grand plaza]

I guess I am doing good with the teams I have but... look at CP diff

[shell hazel]

201 is a bigger increase in CP

they've all had that (and top one again at 221 lol)

[grand plaza]

Hmm good to know

[shell hazel]

are you hoarding crates?

[strong hull]

Gonna make some content with helmt

[grand plaza]

I was considering that it was kinda obvious that I will stuck at 160 wall

I just left it yesterday, jump to 190 lol

[shell hazel]

oh lol, yeah I saw 190 and saw you were past it

if you not hoarding crates, get more of the campaign done if you can to boost outpost levels

and buy all the hard mode tries on all events so you can get more core dust

repeat 1-11 hard mode (only do this when hard mode is available), it's 4 core dust 1h crates per try, so 100 gems for 5 tries = 20 hours of core dust at outpost level

[grand plaza]

Yeah onto this right now, this mfking level is so annoying tho

[grand plaza]

Yeah I've been doing that as well since I started I think

[shell hazel]

I remember that one was stuck there a bit

24 something?

[grand plaza]

25 18

[shell hazel]

ah

push hard mode instead if you stuck in normal for now

[grand plaza]

I guess I can past it if I lvl to 200 but I almost beat it once at 190 as well so I kinda want to do it with challange :D

[shell hazel]

otherwise 201 should get you past it

yeah every time you get another level or two you can try it again 🙂

i'm waiting till 261 to mald more

[grand plaza]

Btw I dropped some new Nikkes but I don't think any of them are worth changing the main teams.

Most PVP focused ones are Biscuit - Mana - Noir(finally) and Sugar

[shell hazel]

Noir is good for SG if you in a pinch for a spot, but I don't think I'd build Mana at your sync

sugar I'd say skip on here

new Trina would likely be a good pickup

[grand plaza]

Currently I can't build anyone but Helm tbh, I dropped 3 copies of her yesterday and she become one of my 5 MLB units :D

Won't complain tho, I was hoarding her treasure for a while and I guess that will pay off. I have 110 I guess

[shell hazel]

Yeah matter of CP sometimes as well

Helm is a great addition herself

but yeah worth getting a copy of Trina if you got some pulls

she works with Scarlet/Moran and also a great burst gen battery in her own right

though you don't have Scarlet?

[grand plaza]

I can drop if I want I guess (10 tickets and 30k gems) but yeah I don't have scarlet or moran

I don't think I have any AR Electric tbh

And I want to save for later, looks like it will be a busy few months with Anniv- Staller Blade- Summer events

[shell hazel]

gather some opinions as well but I reckon railtracer would tell you to get a copy even if you can't build now

if he was here 😄

anni pilgrim/gold mileage is better

[grand plaza]

If I build HelmT as well I will have 3 good burst generators, whish should be enough for my league perhaps?

HelmT Anis Jackal

[shell hazel]

problem is let's you say you pull scar, you then lack trina

and you can wishlist her, but it's rng

but I get it, saving is a thing too 😄

[eager mountain]

the only annoying level this ch
not really that cursed like farter wall in ch24

[grand plaza]

Yeah I agree, there is no way I could beat it without passing the wall

[grand plaza]

I kinda have to as f2p, I was going to buy monthly if pilgrim mold was successful but SU didn't want it

[shell hazel]

man I hate the molds so much

I honestly wish they were just 100 molds = 100% thing

you get them slower but at least you don't get disappointed

like that guy that opened 10 x pilgrim molds and got no SSR 😄

[grand plaza]

Uninstall reason

[grand plaza]

Honestly I don't mind other molds that much, but pilgrim mold hurst way too much

[covert lintel]

i maxed rosanna because of mold

[shell hazel]

we have enough gamba in the game, gamba systems can be annoying

[grand plaza]

Either that or make it a random SSR instead of blue-purple

[strange linden]

You guys keep changing your SP comps if it get beaten consistently?

[grand plaza]

It is annoying. I am kinda burned tbh.

I am entering Simulation... RNG to drop good buffs. Yesterday I spend 1hours+ for a one ducking alva particle

Then dolls are RNG

Rocks are RNG

[raven plover]

yes, people stop hitting me because of that

[shell hazel]

I would if i had enough options built

[shell hazel]

for overclock 25 it gets easier, sync 254 and I don't even need the buffs to do it anymore

[raven plover]

they prolly think wtf this schizo guy doing

[strange linden]

I wish I know how to build DEF comp by my own

[covert lintel]

but ppl in my bracket keep atking me

[grand plaza]

I guess, I just past the wall so I still have that 160 flashbacks

[shell hazel]

it gets a bit easier I think if you can build stall comps etc as well

well until recently I would mainly quick sweep to get same shape buffs almost regardless of what it was lol

but I was able to do the one that just reset and I didn't even bother pre-farming that D:

I went in with 1 triangle buff and I got a few more along the way

[copper creek]

tbh dont rly need to build def anymore

this game is now way too advantaged to atk side

trina is just the final nail in that coffin

[shell hazel]

if you can change your teams to capable ones though and the opponent doesn't really know what they're doing I can see why you'd do it

[swift mango]

You mean this 5 farters 2 glasses stage? Easier than I thought it would be. My Rapipi only 557.

[copper creek]

in his case specifically he has already gone through every sensible def lol

or im p sure he has at this point

[shell hazel]

then doomed

[eager mountain]

not this

[swift mango]

Then which one?

[strange linden]

I think it was already too late with THelm
Even I can consistently beat people just by using the adequate counter

Let's hope Champion arena will change a bit

[eager mountain]

that one

[swift mango]

How many farter, how many glasses?

[copper creek]

it was gonezo at emilia tbh

but trina is just final nail in the coffin, a pve box can 3/3 any def without using brain

[eager mountain]

issue is its a base defense farter spam
and its not those optional base defense

[swift mango]

I would probably clear ch24 boss without knowing about that stage.

[grand plaza]

I just beat it

Took few tries but once everyone managed to survive.. done

[eager mountain]

low enough deficit then yeah ig

[strange linden]

Think I'll just invest on trina and then put her on the DEF comp for the last time

[grand plaza]

How dare you

[eager mountain]

if he somehow doesnt know why spoil the surprise

[tropic summit]

for T2 not worth it tanking CP just to slot in biscuit, keep it high in CP even at the cost of being slow for now

[grand plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/the-penguins-of-madagascar-madagascar-movies-animation-cartoons-gif-16596826

[grand plaza]

Yeah that sounds like sound thing to do 👍

[tropic summit]

that extra feed from moran probably wasn't a good idea

in the off chance instead you've more feed than they do, might actually be 1.6-1.9RL and maybe a tad enough before blanc activates B2

[tropic summit]

7 attempt later of brute force

[pale knoll]

@tropic summit

Since only sr5, I'll probably use rapunzel as b1 to make sure she wipes

[shell hazel]

I can't get top of rookie dude who is gaining levels too much is like 390K cp now 😄

395k even

below 334k am at deficit, my top team cp pad wise is like 350K

they're +12 or so levels on me but it includes the 261 cp jump

[tulip quest]

my top 1 close to half more than my total cp guy below me 20%cp above me also 40 levels IM SANDWICHED

[shell hazel]

yeah, not that rookie really matters, same guys keep hitting my dumb defence near reset

I might set a trap 5 mins before reset and set a 2RL cindy/noah def

yep

[tulip quest]

Oh that technique again

[shell hazel]

I was just setting dumb PVE def team on rookie I expect to lose, but I made a guy burn 7 tries on it the other day, so either gems or the chips if they still had them

[swift mango]

U don't?

[shell hazel]

I expect they're spending gems or resources to gain levels quicker than I am

I am already doing all I can in game to get levels, so they must be doing more than me from the store

I only use for skill books now

if you're so inclined you can level up quickly using the daily core dust pack ($5/day) but I don't want to just buy levels

[tulip quest]

kinda crazy people that competitive in rookie in a dummy team

[shell hazel]

so I've never actually done that

[swift mango]

Defend, if they buy everything every even they would be 100+ gap

[tulip quest]

most likely 50 gems and 70 gems for 4 hours a day core dust n other stuff

[shell hazel]

they could be doing extra wipeout

I am just doing +50 atm, not the +70 one

[tulip quest]

aight

[shell hazel]

but still, that isn't that much, they seem quicker than that

[tulip quest]

I will stop doing that

just gonna accept 3rd place

[shell hazel]

well I spend that 70 on re-roll bulletin atm, as that is 50 so it covers it 🙂

[tulip quest]

whales are jus WHALES no LOGIC can beat that

[shell hazel]

I am missing the last dispatch slot which kind of sucks

actually I often just get 2-3 more core dust crates on bulletin re-roll

[tulip quest]

why u missing it?

[shell hazel]

level 20 core infra

[tulip quest]

upgrade?

[shell hazel]

I'm mid-way in 19, so 20 gets + 1 dispatch slot

I've been doing skill books only for a while now from the daily resource kit

but I needed a lot of skills on units

I suppose I could focus CD instead to get 261 a little quicker

my skills are mostly where I want them on the units I use, today I should get crown 10/10/9

core infrastructure thing

you only get those when you do the challenges normally, so tribe tower levels every 10 levels etc

the last level gives the final dispatch slot, getting that makes re-rolling bulletins even better (1 extra slot for same gem cost)

[tulip quest]

For me I focus my HARD CAMPAIGN MAIN TEAM

[shell hazel]

mine are decently placed atm

[tropic summit]

oh so that's why, SR5... now that's ballsy

[tulip quest]

PVP TEAM THEN RAID TEAM

[shell hazel]

my Scarlet is only SR-5 as well 😄

[tulip quest]

HC, PVP Then Raid

[shell hazel]

yeah I could switch focus for a bit, and go more hardcore on CD

nice thing about the crates, the flexibility

it's only 680 core dust extra per day though

for me (68 cd/hour)

skill manuals have a static value where doing more crates later has a higher value

no it's 68 where I am

if I can get chapters 35/36 done I can probably make it like 70-71?

yeah I need 261 for behe really

after that the campaign progress slows to like half, as you're done with normal until next chapters

yeah my top 6 arena all really close on CP/campaign progress

[jagged sedge]

How does Trina size up agains Rossana? Can she protect Scarlet?

[shell hazel]

several people really close to me for progress, I'm like 2/3 position maybe, but only by 1 stage :p

guy in front is a 2-3 chapters ahead as you kind of unlock 35/36 once you beat 34

I imagine a lot of people who rolled when I did were doing so from re-rolling accounts/knowing the game better

and they rolled in anni to get a good start

seems like they aren't waiting around to make slow progress :d

[quick lake]

Yes, after not minmaxing, I am maybe 10-15 syncs behind after 2+ years

[shell hazel]

exactly, think people here are more inclined to do it, because the guy in front was just smashing it with god comps and high invested pve units

[quick lake]

My bracket peeps are all similar syncs. Day 1 hardcore minmaxer maybe at 531+ while im at 521

[shell hazel]

and I was like what is this game and how does it work 😄

[swift mango]

@eager mountain is about to reach 541.

[quick lake]

Exactly

[shell hazel]

everyone here is a spender as well, which figures, various costumes and multi cores but I don't see any mega whales at least

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-scarlet-black-shadow-scarlet-black-shadow-nikke-nikke-goddess-squad-goddess-squad-nikke-gif-6746217592914255630

damn fine

nah she's alright but I still can't afford to roll anything on her much

[swift mango]

About to get to 24-34 but out of battery

[small lotus]

guys would i be able to beat this guy?

[shell hazel]

a lot more than I have

7/4/7 skills
SR-15 doll

missing tons of ele, have way too much ammo

rolls all over the place

yeah I took her to SR-15 at a cost but she's needed for campaign and kraken, I need to boost some dolls on pvp units soon, Scarlet is SR-5 and many others still R-0

yeah mine are built much better than my SBS for rolls

cindy / rh / sbs / helm tr at SR-15 most of mine are either nothing or SR-5 otherwise

except rapi SR-10

[shell hazel]

you cp gap probable win, also they're high feed so ideally you'd run scar/jack counter

but also it's rookie low sync so doesn't really matter that much, you could just send it

[quick lake]

Better to focus SR15 on main dps imo. Those deal bulk of the dmg

[shell hazel]

yeah I actually had some SR-5 on units that don't really matter before I re-focused to primary DPS

Alice / Rapi maybe want SR-15 in the end, but I don't love using Alice enough

think my Grave is SR-5

Doro as well 😄

MG doll isn't that amazing either

so yeah crown probably eventual upgrade, and rapi, but the dolls don't make as much diff on them

yeah they would do, though I dunno if I want to super mald hard

may just be a case of get more cp see how far I get 😄

but less so if you can't do normal + hard

once normal stops going up as well the value basically halves in pushing

chapter 36 boss sounds like another wall

yeah you basically build the core units more I guess

[tropic summit]

you've deficit advantage, they're 4RL, can give it a shot, although you won't burst as your team is really slow

[swift mango]

Beat it in 2 tries, bruh. Easy. Not even 1 minutes spent.

Easier than the 2 glasses 5 farter stage to me.

[small lotus]

i died

[tropic summit]

nerf yourself over several days, you'll get action

[tropic summit]

then you gotta make a faster team afterall

@small lotus consider adding at least 2 of these in your lineup then calculate ur speed and ensure you're within 3RL to 4RL

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[swift mango]

@tropic summit still ch25? I'm about to catch up to you.

[shell hazel]

I guess you gotta wait for CA to give you some proper pvp action, or a re-shuffle

[tropic summit]

how many years ago was that?

[shell hazel]

still worth building towards it

[swift mango]

It was literally 3-5 days ago but good job.

[shell hazel]

the two guys who attacked me yesterday didn't have great defence so I just took back 1 pretty easily 🙂

[tropic summit]

start with ch26, that place was hell

[shell hazel]

actually that guy who was +12 on me is now +13 so yeah, magic levels falling out of the sky 😄

[tropic summit]

ch25 was somewat passable minus 2 stages

[shell hazel]

I don't think even cd from the resource crate really explains it, strongly suspect either throwing all gems at wipeouts (they're nikke count is low) or they're buying levels somehow

[lunar pawn]

I live here

[tropic summit]

you can get action if you nerf yourself tho

[swift mango]

Well, I started one month behind you so my progression is fine.

[tropic summit]

i know, but if you really wanted to there's that option

[quick lake]

Oh i need to mald 34 boss soon

[tropic summit]

you can then try copium or particular teams instead of meta teams

[shell hazel]

nah I do all those as well

not skipped any

oh sorry lol

not reading right, could be, don't know how much that gives though

[quick lake]

I’ve been daily wipeout-ing for like 2 months. Can see my commander lv rising faster

[swift mango]

My CP with this exact team is actually 645k+ not too shapy.

[tropic summit]

yeah 1 day wasn't enough for ppl to realize or they all play right after reset and didn't notice, try it over the span of 2-3 days

[shell hazel]

yeah, some look expensive there though, I suspect this more

[tropic summit]

yeah you're doing pretty well, my most meta campaign team is around 640k

[swift mango]

Put it up for 1 week this time

[shell hazel]

I considered it but so poor value vs the resource packs daily, if you count how many skills books you get

[tropic summit]

well 4hrs more of shift then finally weekend, one last push

[swift mango]

@Railmalder - CA waiting room

[tropic summit]

tell that to @fathom rock , his fault I pushed so far into deficit clearing

[lunar pawn]

managed to scooch over and destroy the node right next to it, but can't bypass this one lol

[pale knoll]

Pushing here too

[quick lake]

Does the squeeze tech still work?

[fathom rock]

Im sorry for helping you progress

[swift mango]

Why mald high deficit when you could get high CP and have easy time at 20% deficit anyway.

[fathom rock]

More dust

[swift mango]

Are you 50 gem claim?

[fathom rock]

And is fun

[lunar pawn]

at times

[quick lake]

My goal is just to be aligned with the average clear sync

Later get kicked from union

[lunar pawn]

too tight of a squeeze

[swift mango]

Well, I'm the most advanced in stage clearing in my bracket excluding the whale now.

I think it's enough

[shell hazel]

I am waiting for hard mode to come out

[swift mango]

Cope with 50 gem claim and reroll dispatch, my level up speed is fine.

[shell hazel]

I need the pulls to better ensure success but yes I will be pulling for Trina

[quick lake]

Eventually we’ll have a surplus of sr15 units. Eventually

[shell hazel]

1 copy and wishlist for more is the idea

[swift mango]

Reroll dispatch more.

[shell hazel]

hoping it doesn't take too many pulls, or worse, I do like 80-90 and get no Trina lol

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

I do re-roll mine some but it's varying 😄

[grand plaza]

It was impossible for 160 wall but easy with 180, idk maybe decipt was too high 🤷‍♂️

Wp tho

[quick lake]

oh today, I had a godly dispatch, no rerolls

[swift mango]

I'm spending average 150 gems a day to reroll dispatch. Vary or not I will get 3*4 star worth of mats at least or I keep rolling.

[quick lake]

Thats alot of rerolls. I average 1.5 maybe

[grand plaza]

What is the min amount of doll mat thats acceptable for you

[swift mango]

I said already, 3 x 4 star mission, not counting the doll box frags.

[shell hazel]

you can't move servers

[quick lake]

JP KR NA sweaty
Globak chill af

[shell hazel]

I imagine global is easier

[grand plaza]

Ah right mb

[swift mango]

SEA is generally sweatier on lower bracket due to having less players.

[quick lake]

sad sea

[swift mango]

Higher bracket you should look at global because more whales

Yeah, global too many player so lower level has lots of death bracket to be in.

People still play but casual and not touching arena.

[rich agate]

Can anyone help me put together some sp defense teams? havent updated my teams in a while. Helm is at lvl 2 treasure

[shell hazel]

if I leave mine alone for for a few hours I can usually come back to something has changed in the top 10 😄

[lunar dirge]

If someone cries about having a whale,i just show my c1 guy

Just write this:

[swift mango]

I see what you did there, whalexAI.

[lunar dirge]

My PvP bracket:you suck. Seek help

[lunar dirge]

you can't call me that, I'm f2p

[swift mango]

It's what you typed.

[lunar dirge]

mobile typos are hard, you know

[swift mango]

You are whalexai from now on, change your name.

[lunar pawn]

mine's been the same for a good while now

[lunar dirge]

I already did it once:#pvp-arena message

Remove seek help part

[lunar pawn]

need to wait for SR rewards until my next multi for trina lol

kinda ran out of places to farm gems

except maybe bond story rewards, but that's my last resort

[swift mango]

MySPA:U sck.SeekHelp

shorten it for u.

[tulip quest]

XD that's kinda being toxic in a way XD

[lunar dirge]

Just say git gut

[tulip quest]

Yea better gitgud XD

[swift mango]

Yeah, you have good SBS. This same team of mine is lower.

[lunar dirge]

I'm 690k at 388

That's what chasing solo raid dies to ppl

I just hope that iron weak will be next month

Although

We know that iron is once per year only

[pale knoll]

Where campaign push tho

[lunar dirge]

28-19 stuck

[sleek root]

Haha thats what i wrote on my profile. My tryhard stalker gave up after relentlessly attacking me and failing for 2 weeks. and i change to Noah avatar

[pale knoll]

Wdym stuck mf

[lunar dirge]

just stuck

30 fps issue

[pale knoll]

Get unstuck then

[lunar dirge]

More than anything

[pale knoll]

Just rh alice

[lunar dirge]

My Alice has 9% ark 40% ele

[pale knoll]

They don't suffer nearly as much as mg from low fps

[swift mango]

My campaign is fine then

[lunar dirge]

I ain't doing shit with her

[lunar dirge]

She deserves to be treated like shit after so long

[pale knoll]

Ein dog too?

[lunar dirge]

83% ele

But 28-19 is just 27-12 repeated

Ein is actually bad here

[pale knoll]

Yeah I kinda forgot since it's been a month

Currently in ch31

[lunar dirge]

Well, at least I won't struggle much at ch 28 boss

Electric is almost as strong as iron for me

[pale knoll]

Yeah, pretty easy with crown rrh cindy sanis rh

[lunar dirge]

CP maxxer

[pale knoll]

You said you'd catch up someday

[lunar dirge]

Not when champion arena is getting released sonewhere

Cuz after that

I have to invest in Moran, pepper, Trina

[swift mango]

Everyone with have to stop at lastest hard chapter eventually

[pale knoll]

We still got 10 years don't worry, until 2035 March

[lunar dirge]

GUYS, MILK HYPE

[pale knoll]

[swift mango]

U have milk T?

[lunar dirge]

Ofc no, am I stupid?

But, lifesteal

Sbs shouldn't die while bursting, right?

Unless blocked

[swift mango]

Gl.

[strong hull]

[lunar dirge]

Be glad I didn't dug out emma

[strong hull]

Lol i remember they did run emma in pvp before

Like long time ago

[lunar dirge]

Early game mg meta

[strong hull]

Massive annoying out heal ig so

[swift mango]

In 10 years we will have Milk treasure treasure treasure and that still not meta.

[lunar dirge]

Ass x ass=ass^2

[spare nimbus]

Winnable?

[whole shell]

I don't see why not

[swift mango]

Team one 60/40. It's whether their LaplaceT and co could kill Noise before she burst.

Team 2: defending on Rossana investment. But likely win.

Could try.

[lunar dirge]

1st team shouldn't be 2rl btw

It would be 2rl if Noah was there instead of laplace

[swift mango]

Doesn't really matter. It's either they killed his Noise and he can't burst or he win.

[lunar dirge]

Got rumani? Swap Emilia with her

[spare nimbus]

1st team wins idk about the second

[lunar dirge]

Why use Rosanna if jackal is in p1 anyways?

[spare nimbus]

Does jackal not link if she is in p1?

[swift mango]

Well, unlinked Scarlet ofc.. she could die from counter.

And Rossana one shot could happen

[lunar dirge]

She still links, but even unlinked she will give feed if p1

I'd rather try to beat team 3 with blanc emi tbh

Although CP diff might be a problem, but it seems like you can do fine

[covert lintel]

will emi win?

[lunar dirge]

No

1 buff emi against Moran noah

Hell no

[spare nimbus]

How about this then?

[swift mango]

Their scarlet is likely to die. But if you feed them enough and doesn't have CS they could be 2.5rl and one shot your link 3rl team with XMaiden instead.

[spare nimbus]

For t3 idk wether to use viper or xmaiden for p5 since i dont want blanc’s indom to accidentally be used on viper

[covert lintel]

so need to be like this?
but i doubt my emi can hold for 4rl

[lunar dirge]

I'd rather scar nuke it

[covert lintel]

scar used in other team so no

[lunar dirge]

Against which one

[covert lintel]

against blanc

[lunar dirge]

No, the full team

[pale knoll]

Back to the kitchen?

[covert lintel]

something like this

[lunar dirge]

You can just kill blanc in 2rl

And gg basically?

Even rh ain't helping there

Prob 2rl Noah Cindy will do

[covert lintel]

that was my opponent

i 2rl scar it

[lunar dirge]

how much Trina invest?

[covert lintel]

don't have

the other 2 guaranteed already
i just want 3rd win

[lunar dirge]

honestly, if I were in your shoes, I would do crown rapu s.anis xmaiden Rosa and kill enemy blanc before 2rl, but needs at least lvl s2 on rosanna

[covert lintel]

what kind of team is this

[lunar dirge]

Focus down unprotected enemy p1,let them kill your crown, rapu revive into s.anis

Although I use Naga instead xamiden

For higher pressure

[covert lintel]

even blanc maybe dead before she cast burst, rh will burst 2 and sbs will continue slashing the team

[wise horizon]

Looks good? @tropic summit

[tawny vine]

ah yes my classic counter to blanc setups is to kill them before bursting too

[lunar dirge]

Sbs will die from s.anis

[strong hull]

Need something new

[lunar dirge]

oil up then

[strong hull]

[forest solstice]

cope team for arena ?

[coarse lake]

just run highest cp at that point, preference towards sgs

so just swap anis with rapi

[tropic summit]

wow real malder

[tropic summit]

shame on you

[tropic summit]

less rocks on the wrong scarlet

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

looks good, T1 should win with emi indom, T2 has deficit advantage, you'll be trading with enemy cindy but should come out on top?

overall a good choice to skip T3, they committed helmT + jackal + scarlet + their highest CP

[keen vapor]

Rail, I'm Diamond 1

Getting sniped by 2 people

~~Tsubasa logged on once again tho ~~

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

sudden FOMO? or regrets? or maybe he really had some stuff IRL

add him on discord and ask.

[keen vapor]

Maybe protest against Collab

[tropic summit]

surely

[keen vapor]

H
O
W

[tropic summit]

telepathy

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

are those opponents equal CP at least or whalerino?

[keen vapor]

Equal CP they seem to know PVP

But even then one of them uses Cindy P1

[rich agate]

Can anyone help me put together some sp defense teams? havent updated my teams in a while. Helm is at lvl 2 treasure

[keen vapor]

I changed my def to Scar Mari 3RL

[shell hazel]

told ya, holiday!

[keen vapor]

Helm's Skill 1 level?

[rich agate]

treasure is lvl 2

all skills are at 10 as well

[keen vapor]

I asked for her skill one level :pepeh:

[rich agate]

oh my bad

its at 10 @keen vapor

[tropic summit]

the wild cindy p1

[crystal flicker]

You shouldn't question Whale's investment

[tropic summit]

surely strategically forcing you to be 2RL or 1RL

must be 4D chess

[shell hazel]

Railtracer your shift owari?

[tropic summit]

thank the gods yes

i will now embrace being absolutely unproductive

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/rugby-yay-gif-3156747878755757137

[tropic summit]

probably shower soon then food then ZZZ new story to play

[shell hazel]

may the weekend of unproductiveness hajimete!

[crystal flicker]

zzz sucks

[tropic summit]

it does, but it sucks less than many other gacha hence here we are

[shell hazel]

I dislike how the combat looks in it

when new good gacha game?

[tropic summit]

when new good game*

[crystal flicker]

I dislike how I spent 110 pulls for SAnby and got her sister instead

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/multiversx-x-xportal-egld-crypto-gif-4249062898891695021

[tropic summit]

so that's why you said it sucks

i was on pity already because i didn't get astra

guaranteed anby

[shell hazel]

I started Wuwa

failed first 50/50

[tropic summit]

oh no...

[shell hazel]

quit the game

[tropic summit]

a good decision

[shell hazel]

I win 😄

also I was so bored by the story

[tropic summit]

then again my opinion toward games like wuwa and genshin is skewed by burnout anyway

[shell hazel]

nikke wins in story dept

I love the banter of all the characters

they throw too muc mysticism nonsense in games like Wuwa (and HSR but I'm invested in that game)

[quick lake]

i dont really like hoyo's 50/50 system

[shell hazel]

every. single. SSR. goes. to. soft. pity

[crystal flicker]

WuWa combat pretty good though

[quick lake]

ya exactly

[tropic summit]

once you reach levels like munch rolling 600 times without finding the rate up nikke, you'll understand why pity is way better than spark

i'm already getting pissed enough at 100+ rolls no rate up

[shell hazel]

it's decent, but I just saw how much grinding was needed and I lost 50/50 and had nothing 😄

[pale knoll]

Hsr is pretty bad nowadays tbh

[quick lake]

true. can be v bad

[shell hazel]

it is

[crystal flicker]

that just gacha

I spent 500 pulls without rate up IN NIKKE

[shell hazel]

HSR has fallen off they moved too much resources to other games

[quick lake]

Im just playing nikke and zzz now. Abit of r1999

[tropic summit]

HSR burned out so quickly, lasted less than 6 months

[shell hazel]

Nikke could use it's own soft pity system really

just you'll get an SSR in x pulls works

[tropic summit]

r1999 didn't click with me, dunno why

[quick lake]

ya, hsr pretty grindy after awhile

[shell hazel]

doesn't really matter who it is, I went 100+ pulls with no SSR at least once

[crystal flicker]

What I'm waiting is Enfield now

[quick lake]

Story is pretty amazing. But.. alot of story

[pale knoll]

Nah, more like there's nothing to do between patches once you complete the story. Just usual weeklies and log off

[shell hazel]

I didn't like the combat system of R1999

[tropic summit]

yeah that will breath some freshness, although the combat was already reviewed as fairly weak

[quick lake]

Ya, the card thing for 1999 is a hit or miss

[shell hazel]

I have to like the actual gameplay

[crystal flicker]

They still changing this and that tbf

[shell hazel]

or it's a miss with me anyway no matter how good the waifus look

[tropic summit]

oh so there's hope

[quick lake]

but, i would argue the story is as good as nikke, just not really post-apocalyptic

GFL2 models are the best though

[tropic summit]

i liked the story, but the gameplay was somehow a huge turn off, didn't click

[shell hazel]

I wonder how SU new gacha will look (project witches?)

[keen vapor]

Copy me, use Anne instead of Mari

Rail, rate my defense

[quick lake]

yeahh, happens

[crystal flicker]

The biggest minus for Nikke is no Voiceover for main sstory

[shell hazel]

GFL2 models look great but man the gameplay looks zzz to me (and the sleepy kind not the game)

[quick lake]

dont we have VA for main story??

[tropic summit]

they don't make enough money to sustain that surely

[quick lake]

JP voice over no?

[shell hazel]

I wish they voiced more events but it's fine

[pale knoll]

We do tho

[shell hazel]

at least they voice the main annis and stuff

[tropic summit]

the auto battle in most modes is a good plus, although ironically it means you barely play the game most of the time

[shell hazel]

that is my issue

[quick lake]

I wish less filler events. Like this current event is great! Character development instead of filler treash

[shell hazel]

I actually want to play a game sometimes

[tropic summit]

although GF2 main mode is the dormitory and story anyway

[shell hazel]

yeah I'm liking the new story so far

[quick lake]

Too much lore that i dont know from GFL, Neural cloud etc etc

[keen vapor]

What?

[shell hazel]

lore drops

[tropic summit]

the GFL original lore is insanely complex

[quick lake]

ya!!

[tropic summit]

almost wish they made movies a la Fate/SN or Fate/UBW

[shell hazel]

I hope they voice the SB collab

[crystal flicker]

Should've make it more clear, VO and somewhat Animation, not just png

[tropic summit]

high quality animation + that lore would make a very good masterpiece

[keen vapor]

Liter

[quick lake]

Love the character and world building, but so behind on lore that i cant get invested

[tropic summit]

there are a few pretty well digested recaps on YT, i was watching one for 2 hours

[graceful grotto]

I like nikke character design and their competitive gameplay kewk

[shell hazel]

also why do we have liter outfit in the event but not in the re-run store?!

[graceful grotto]

But pvp can be annoying at times

[quick lake]

I dont really like GFL2 xcom gameplay but love the models

[shell hazel]

I generally do as well though I don't think they need to make all characters with super large assets 😄

I'd wish for more blanc/centi style models

[quick lake]

Tibi likes medium assets as well

[graceful grotto]

Funny enough, the character I fancy are the large in real life but medium in nikke type

[shell hazel]

also the ones who face the wrong way and have to bend their necks 180 degrees 😄

[graceful grotto]

Scarlet, Sakura, Blanc

[crystal flicker]

I'm thinking about "open world" Nikke

would be cool to play

[shell hazel]

I mean larger works too just I like some variety in the models

like ice maiden is great - but so is normal maiden

[quick lake]

I would love if they had a nikke follow up. I feel current nikke is... idk some shiftup cash cow

[tropic summit]

there's insane potential for actual spinoff-minigames, but we're stuck with the most minimal expense ones everytime

[graceful grotto]

Ice maiden outfit is 🤤🤤

The first time I saw her back pose in the poster I was like wtheck that's basically stocking but whole body

[shell hazel]

I like the main story and the maps and things. we have a lot of stuff which winds up as forgotten systems though

[graceful grotto]

Hmmmm

[quick lake]

Yeah! Their 3d maps are actually pretty great

[crystal flicker]

yeh, we barely have meaningful investment, despite #1047834285287166013 filled with tons of great ideas

[shell hazel]

I hope the new overworld maps gets developed well

[graceful grotto]

If gun mechanics are the core, I would imagine a slightly better snowbreak gameplay type

[shell hazel]

I actually like the combat in the game as well with the gallery shooter

but some stages are just pure evil for no reason

[quick lake]

I like that nikke is "minimalistic". Not too much to do tbh

I think alot of other gachas have too many things to do

[graceful grotto]

Yeah true

[shell hazel]

I'd rather they be cp/stat/synergy checks not "LOL YOU DIED IN 2 SECONDS BEFORE YOU CAN BURST" checks

[graceful grotto]

But I spend a lot of darn time in nikke hahahaha

[tropic summit]

nikke first person shooter? (play as RH in doom setting)
nikke RTS? (a la command & conquer or just grand strategy)

but no, we get castlevania ripoff instead

[crystal flicker]

Haven't tried SB, all I know is that game known for "cultured" stuffs

[jagged mesa]

can anybody help me revise my rookie & sp arena comps?

[shell hazel]

the mini-games in the events are generally pretty good

[graceful grotto]

I played wuwa, zzz, nikke, gfl2

[quick lake]

I would like Nikke dorm, inspired from gfl2

[shell hazel]

I tried brown dust 2 - but the game once again with the combat is meh to me

[graceful grotto]

Considering dropping one or two

[quick lake]

My PC was too slow to handle wuwa. Super laggy, though I was super lucky with pulls

[graceful grotto]

Nikke dorm = advice lmao

[shell hazel]

I keep going with HSR mainly as the dailies are fairly simple to keep on top of

[tropic summit]

helm treasured? s10 stage 2 reached? are you hiding a noah or rumani down there? where's trina?

[graceful grotto]

No 3D model meaning you won't have much meaningful dorm time anyway

[crystal flicker]

We haven't get any update for outpost, and you ask for dorm system lmao

[quick lake]

Advice system is actually really really brilliant. I unds the charas better, DAILY

[jagged mesa]

no treasure, no noah or rumani, no trina

[graceful grotto]

It's pretty good

[tropic summit]

that's not even close, just bunch of useless text nobody has the time to bother reading

[shell hazel]

yeah outpost is kind of another abandoned system

[graceful grotto]

I always laugh when Anis made her sig face

[tropic summit]

🧱

[keen vapor]

OI I READ IT
IS FUN

[graceful grotto]

Nah I wished wuwa has dorm

[tropic summit]

there's no jackal either right?

[shell hazel]

I like how nikke respects my time mostly

[quick lake]

I think I played too many gachas given I dont really play other pc games

[graceful grotto]

Nikke is good enough for me with advice

[crystal flicker]

Nikke is kinda Genshin for Hoyo

[keen vapor]

LAST TIME I WAS RAIDED BC OF ROSANNA'S FAULT

[shell hazel]

but I wish the dailies were a bit more streamlined still

[jagged mesa]

nope, currently hanging around chall 5 and r2 rookie but cant push any higher

[tropic summit]

amazing how you're challanger 5 without those core pvp units

[quick lake]

I wish they optimised their game overall

[shell hazel]

I'm looking forward to being done with liberation missions...

[graceful grotto]

I think they're trying their best to do so ngl

[keen vapor]

Rail didn't rate my defense

[jagged mesa]

i was r1 and r1 until about last month, and now im being passed up

and there's one whaler focker in rookie who 5-battles me every single day to push me down lol

[graceful grotto]

My only wish is we get more resources

[shell hazel]

because I have to go into 3 sub-menus to do them, to even see what I need to do 😄

[graceful grotto]

Either more books or more stones

Or both

Can barely 10 10 10 anyone without skipping 2-3 nikkes to skill up

[crystal flicker]

Took me 30 minutes for Nikke daily and 5 minutes for zzz

[quick lake]

Nikke is pretty brutal to new players. They can never catch up, unlike zzz/wuwa/gfl2

[graceful grotto]

Lmao

[keen vapor]

Wym, is only one sub menu

Nikke tab on lobby → liberation

[tropic summit]

it's... not the best and not the worst

i've qualms about SBS as B3 on defense because it's just allowing your opponent to scarlet/indom a team and biscuit + p1 defender the other

[graceful grotto]

Only for raids though

[shell hazel]

ok 2 sub menus but we get loading screens 😄

[crystal flicker]

and CA (If they ever release it)

[graceful grotto]

Pvp is according to batch, story has nth to catch up lol

[quick lake]

True. Just takes v long to build charas

[graceful grotto]

Gfl2 is super boring now for me

[quick lake]

Hope newer players can catch up on main story soon

[keen vapor]

Thanks

[shell hazel]

it really does look it

[graceful grotto]

I'm tryna pull klukay when she drop and if I still don't have fun by then, will drop the game

[quick lake]

I cant imagine being spoiled if I was a new player. I hate spoilers

[graceful grotto]

Zzz is next in line

[crystal flicker]

I can gave you spoiler

[graceful grotto]

Yesh

[shell hazel]

yeah I mean I started in cindy event and was getting all sorts of cindy story bits. I only just saw that in the main chapter 😄