pvp-arena

[cedar orbit]

The dog is mandatory

[lime night]

No clue tbh, its all in japanese https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sAbqZGCEQU he makes quite a lot of guides on twitter and my guildmates recommend his bio so

[quick lake]

Biscuit kinda slow but yes u can put biscuit

[graceful grotto]

if trina is highly skill up, then having rh is just overkill to buff scar

better to go for a more defensive/healer team like noise, rapunzel, thelm

[quick lake]

Some trina team ideas from CN

[graceful grotto]

oh rosanna is super interesting

but u wont trigger her passive tho

but u prolly don't need to

moran stock flying now

[lime night]

Although i just realized this def doesnt use biscuit isnt that a bit of a waste?

[swift mango]

It's to one shot defender sr15+Temperinglv7 under Noise/Moran buff.

[lunar dirge]

I thought about her minus jackal

[quick lake]

Yeah, I mean u can definitely swap her in. Just some team ideas

[cedar orbit]

Is that dmg strength?

[covert lintel]

so still bugged?

[quick lake]

yea

[covert lintel]

moran target highest atk when she burst

[quick lake]

oo, looks like he is the one that updates this chart hmmm:hm

[covert lintel]

[fathom rock]

Xmaid hitting 1

[graceful grotto]

oh retro expert ma

grats mate

[lime night]

No clue i can barely communicate with my guildmates in japanese

but probably so? AOE damage tier?

[fathom rock]

Cereal blue

[raven plover]

during the burst sequence (when you start your burst), theres a chance scarlet dies

I tried 2 RL p1 scar agaisnt noah bisc sbs redhood jack and scar almost dead

gonna try with temper

[lunar dirge]

@fathom rock expert? Nice, you can go breathe fresh air now

[swift mango]

Pretty sure Rossana could still be able to remove Trina buff from Scarlet just link her removing Jackal links...

[keen vapor]

Retro

[lunar dirge]

meanwhile ppl said to to try only in 6 months

[lunar dirge]

The funny part is

THE OUTCOME WON'T CHANGE

[covert lintel]

why he compare reiT and scar when it come to trina buff?
even elementary school child know reiT won't get the buff

[lunar dirge]

since they both(Trina and jackal) get dispelled

Then it's already over

[swift mango]

If you are discussing how to beat 2rl scarlet Trina just 2rl Noah+SBS it.

[raven plover]

maybe its like pick one

[lunar dirge]

no, it's like Rosanna claps both trina and jackal

Except this time you put jackal somewhere else

[fiery parcel]

Hi. Need an update on my pvp teams. Thanks. Also whats best for rookie arena?

[lunar dirge]

I hate autocorrect

[versed cobalt]

Is Drake with Unique Item good on PVP? Is she worth investing once I maxed her UI?

[strong hull]

Alway been

[tardy canopy]

What is he doing down in Platinum ranks with 1000000 CP

[drifting socket]

that comp confuses me

[lunar pawn]

why tempering on scarlet? why is everyone slapping tempering everywhere?

[drifting hazel]

Look at his team comp that’s why

[quick lake]

Cause P1 scar for dmg reduction. If u're using scar-jack, the dmg that scar recieves (reduced by tempering), is shared across the link

[covert lintel]

i heard drakeT only upgrade buff and burst dmg
there is no change to her burst's range
so ig not worth

[lunar pawn]

won't people use trina+scar and use jackal elsewhere? also scar is invincible for 2s, why would they need tempering

[raven plover]

during the burst sequence the enemy can hit you

this is on 2 RL even

[quick lake]

yeah, those was pre-trina recommendation ig

[lunar pawn]

tempering overall feels only necessary if you feel much weaker than your opp, no?

[lunar dirge]

The only way we can die is to REALLY FAT laplacet

Like

40 atk 80 ele 17% cs type laplace

[sleek root]

What do you mean?

[quick lake]

Just overall more tanky ig

[lunar pawn]

cp drops a lot though

[lunar dirge]

How much CP do you have lil' bro?

[coarse solstice]

Sorry late to the party is Trina going to be good for PVP?

[lunar dirge]

Yes

[lunar pawn]

lvl 4 tempering can't compare to lvl 15 resi or lvl 13 basti lol

[coarse solstice]

Sick

[lunar dirge]

I lvl7 those

Temperance, vigor, quantum

[lunar pawn]

still, lvl 7 vs lvl 15

[keen vapor]

#gacha-rolls

[lunar dirge]

CP only matters if you drops below 15%

[swift mango]

Could still put Jackal right there, no need to move her alongside Blanc. Blanc is a strong girl that can stay alone. Unlike weakling Noah.

[swift mango]

Even 1.5RL you could still be hit.

[lunar pawn]

no just cp but actual damage output

[sleek root]

No Chime for 2.5

[swift mango]

CLip RL buffer. That's alone should be enough for SSS tier.

[keen vapor]

[lunar dirge]

So, the CP gap

[keen vapor]

SHE'S CLIP?!

[lunar dirge]

CP gap=less stats=less damage

[lunar dirge]

yes

[raven plover]

1.5rl trina team

[lunar dirge]

btw, you didn't answer to me

[swift mango]

You are few hours to late to the party

[quick lake]

There is no 1.5rl teams Edit: without sacc

[sleek root]

LoL i thought people were trolling since 4 hours ago

[lunar pawn]

tempering = lower lvl, meaning higher cp gap, yes, but also lower cube stats and useless for battle performance other than defense

[keen vapor]

I just woke up

[keen vapor]

The what?

[lunar dirge]

Mana Rosanna lvl 1 sac

[lunar dirge]

[swift mango]

Just 23% CS from OL , easy

[keen vapor]

[quick lake]

I dont even think 25% cs u hit 1.5RL

[lunar dirge]

Smartass

[pastel owl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzS9vMRvD80
real moran solo

[lunar dirge]

I saw the edit

[swift mango]

Already possible since helmT.

[quick lake]

Not enough

[keen vapor]

I don't get it

[swift mango]

Ofc not with just helmT at 23%. You need jackal 23%, Centi 23%, RUMANI 23%, as well.

[keen vapor]

23%
That's above 4 tier eleven lines

[quick lake]

I get what u mean. But i dont think 23% cs can make it. I think u need like 30%+++ realistically if u factor in motion delay of firing

our 25% cs assumes not motion delay (which is 0.2-0.25s)

[pastel owl]

charge speed cube

[lunar dirge]

4 tier 15+charge speed cube

[keen vapor]

YOU GUYS CRAZY

[swift mango]

Well, if your 1.5rl isn't 1.5rl, their 2rl isn't 2rl either. So either way, it's still 0.5 RL difference

[covert lintel]

i suspect this buff do not have any cap so she can stack up def until the dmg became 1

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Moran stronk.

[keen vapor]

In theory, yes
In practice, you don't get enough def for that

[quick lake]

I guess if they're 2.3RL or something maybe

If u take into account motion delay

21% cs is where u actually hit 2.5RL in 3 projectiles by right

[lunar pawn]

nice, gj

one day my moran will be built

[swift mango]

RL is not an definite unit anyway. Just count 1rl being the time you actually fire and hit. So no confusion needed.

[lunar pawn]

that day is not today

[rich ledge]

dam where do we have resources

[pastel owl]

that's not me, just random yt recommendation the other day

[quick lake]

True i guess

[swift mango]

I think this chart actually use second as the base unit though.

And they counted 1rl = 1.25s

[quick lake]

Most resources in pins

[rich ledge]

haha i mean resources to level moran/ scarlet/ trina

[quick lake]

idk, can reference the source directly ig
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_0Nj1a_fxNaRtVEqbssZXZ0q5ycw5naDfHSj1qOIiVY/edit?gid=1355235657#gid=1355235657

[lunar pawn]

I'd work on trina rn

if I had her

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/if-i-had-one-angry-yelling-fairly-odd-parents-mr-turner-gif-16322274

[swift mango]

You don't have her?

[raven plover]

I already said I test her so I do

[unkempt trail]

do people still use rumani

[swift mango]

I have my Trina SR5 already, just no rock, mats and skill mats for her.

Same to my ReiT...

[swift mango]

Why not? You don't want 2rl teams?

[unkempt trail]

i never rlly thought of using her so not build yet

[eternal finch]

So Trina meta for PVP?

[swift mango]

Best thing about Trina is that she gonna makes Moran GREAT again.

[bleak shale]

i use anis so i dont see why they wouldnt use rumani

[graceful grotto]

yes no doubt

[swift mango]

Damn, I haven't used Anis for awhile.

[shell hazel]

another unit I need to build

[graceful grotto]

i like moran but nah, too many units need to built at this point

need to get centi, trina and rumani up first, who are almost guaranteed to be used in pvp just for burst gen alone

[shell hazel]

I need a rumani, probably saving ord tickets for when trina goes into ordinary banner

eluded me so far, main one I'm missing atm

[keen vapor]

I did to snipe yesterday

[keen vapor]

Expert

[eternal finch]

ok. Invest all sources

[swift mango]

~~you couldn't use SR Anis because you are 🧱 ~~

[keen vapor]

I use her she's 90k CP

[keen vapor]

Go on, how's your Anis CP

[digital whale]

thank you kub

[covert lintel]

is this real?

[graceful grotto]

yeap

u can put anyone there and it'll still be 2RL

[junior briar]

[shell hazel]

you basically got 3 highest burst gen units though lol

your sp-arena could be sad if you stack all of the best ones on a single team

[slate trench]

no way. trina is pvp unit?

[onyx crescent]

where should i put helmT ?

[signal hull]

I don't quite understand what those "2RL, 3RL" means, can anyone ELI5 please?

[covert lintel]

even with only 2 of them is still 2rl

[digital whale]

🫂

me

[swift mango]

Well, I'm not using Anis because I only need to hit c1-2 now, one is a whale 50 level higher than me and one has only 10+ level higher but lots of core+ and most of all Gemmer until he win...

.

The lower rank guys aren't catching up to my level now... So they can't break my def...

So my bracket currently is super chill...

[pale knoll]

Lucky guy

[swift mango]

Just need to 50 gem claim to push my level above other F2P lol.

[pale knoll]

I'm talking about your easy bracket

[swift mango]

Well, yeah it's pretty easy now because more than half of the F2P sweaty arena guys gone. But I'm always more invested in Arena than them anyway.

[raven plover]

x RL means thats how many Rocket Launcher shots needed to fully fill burst bar (make your burst 1 ready)

2 RL, after 2 RL shots you start your burst 1

[pale knoll]

It doesn't matter tbh, if your bracket knew what they were doing, you'd be moving around a lot since attacking is easy

[brazen ledge]

So now is Trina clip or not

[quick lake]

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/pvp-burst

[pale knoll]

Yes, and bit more than anis

[brazen ledge]

Wtf

[pale knoll]

They just went with it

[graceful grotto]

indeed

[brazen ledge]

She’s broken

[swift mango]

Well, they just doesn't have the investment. They certainly could attack when my CP was still reachable lol.

[graceful grotto]

quite surprising ngl

[pale knoll]

Cause who doesn't like another clip rl that also synergyses well with scarlet

[pale knoll]

As I said, easy bracket so congrats 👍

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

I think what happened to you is because you don't have Noah. So it's hard to win def even if you switch teams around and have more CP than them(idk if you do).

I used to be there and needed 3 sacc teams to keep them at bay. (Needed to calculate their CP so that they wouldn't be able to just CP press my sacc teams) Not anymore.

People ofc can beat you if their CP in range and they are active enough but the chance to lose is always there. So they would need to think twice before attacking your def that keep switching around with Noah if lower guys also attacking them.

Life is hard without Noah. My last week in the sweaty bracket with newly built Noah I held C3 easily even if people sometime beat my DEF. Because they needed hit back to the lower guys too not me, and there is always a chance they lose to my new def I put up after they beat me once at ended up with no attempt to hit back when someone dropped them to diamond.

[raven plover]

its a sign CA is real

[grizzled bone]

Grats on the rank up

[graceful grotto]

thanks bud

quite a surprise ngl

[graceful grotto]

we gonna keep coping on this hahaha

[shell hazel]

imagine CA drops tomorrow || + 10 years for 2035 ||

[bleak shale]

CA March ||2035||

[oblique ridge]

SP arena shuffled somebody in this season and he automatically got rank 1 for unknown reasons.

[sleek root]

Damn! She really is Clip RL...

[oblique ridge]

I let him have a season unchallenged, then I smashed him in a few seconds to take it back

[lunar dirge]

currently, CA is as real as one piece

[bleak shale]

It happens sometimes, the first reshuffle we got a dude who was like 200 syncs below everyone in top10

In top1

[lunar dirge]

Everyone talks about it, but don 't know when or where

[bleak shale]

He dropped to plat in about 5 min

[oblique ridge]

I’m cooked if CA is real because idk how to do pvp anymore

[raven plover]

can we get much higher

[lunar dirge]

on crack? Always

[oblique ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/roost-toshi-mochi-brett-landwolf-gif-16125456873220767522

[pale knoll]

I have 2 accounts and the one that has noah still gets beaten anyways. I'm holding top 4 there since top 1,2 and 3 are all whales with 100 sync more. It's just a matter of whether your enemies are active and now what they are doing or not since attack is easy

[lunar dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

[sleek root]

100+ synchro with 30~40% deficits? Pain~

[pale knoll]

Yeah

[lunar dirge]

I can always show my whale

[sleek root]

My whale is double my CP, 50% stat penalty, double my CP, 90% stat penalty.
Mind you, i have the 2nd highest syncro after him in the whole SP bracket

[pale knoll]

900 sync yet?

[lunar dirge]

800

[pale knoll]

Damn, that's disappointing

[keen vapor]

[coarse solstice]

What is a Sacc team?

[dusky epoch]

Is this ok guys?

[still storm]

that's not fast enough for 2RL
yep that's 3RL

[floral kiln]

Do we have a pvp content creator?

[dusky epoch]

oh i see hmmm because before i used Anis instead of Trina

so i think Trina seems better than anis right now

[still storm]

Is this sanis setup too slow?

[lunar dirge]

There is not much to create

[covert lintel]

need CA so content creator will get to work

[pallid gate]

trina burst speed is how much?

is it like how SG burst speed is?(like maiden)or centi level?

[uncut portal]

hello , I wanna counter this team.

[pale knoll]

Anis lvl

[pale knoll]

2rl helm nuke

[pallid gate]

huh? that fast?

[pale knoll]

Yes

[uncut portal]

Can we nuke before blanc burst?

[pale knoll]

With 2rl yes

[pallid gate]

wow, look like must pull for pvp base

[pale knoll]

That's what I do against that comp

[pale knoll]

For pvp definitely

[pallid gate]

as i gonna go moran Sanis soon, she can come handy as...burst filler

or maybe there is better

[thorn pagoda]

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/tier-list/
where would Trina go on this list? S, SS or SSS?

[uncut portal]

I wonder , maybe A.

[pale knoll]

Pretty good buffer for scarlet and if s2 lvl, can just go 1 buffer scarlet to nuke

[pale knoll]

Sss

[sleek root]

Clip RL, buffed and invul the queen dps of PvP, prob SSS

[pallid gate]

i normally go ros +Sanne +scarlet

[thorn pagoda]

damn. sss, huh

worth pulling then

[pallid gate]

but will see how this turns

[uncut portal]

She's still weak against Noah.

[pale knoll]

For pvp btw. For pve, she would be good in electric weak raids with scarlet

[pallid gate]

just burst faster before noah

[sleek root]

Worst case scenario, SS/ No way she'll be S. Just the fact that she's a Clip RL dmg buffer puts her in SS

[thorn pagoda]

by the time that list is updated, Trina won't be available to pull in special recruit
that's why i'm asking now lol

[dim escarp]

real pvp asmr

[pallid gate]

feel like want to...use golden ticket since no gems

but eh...

[unkempt meteor]

is it worth it to invest in my rookie arena team? I only have overloads on scarlet and 7/5/7. Rest is 4/4/4 at best

[pale knoll]

Cuanto tiempo

[pale knoll]

Just overloads on the others btw

[dim escarp]

there's enough burst gen char and dw champion arena won't come before 2029 so you'll drop her before

[unkempt meteor]

whats the goal? more hp? As in, should I level armor to 5 after OL?

[pallid gate]

well i got rumani from off-banner which is very funny, perhaps she will come for me as well

[quick lake]

Trina SSS tier pvp. Jackal no longer alone at sss tier by herself

[pale knoll]

Cp is the main goal. Do equip them with dolls for extra survivability

And more cp

[pallid gate]

i can't even do anything on this

[pallid gate]

as a pvp enthuthasic, i always love to have jackal tier of stuff to get

[quick lake]

Initial 4OL +0 is fine. Chest and Head to lv ~2 if u have spare fodder

[umbral crown]

Mucho tiempo

[pale knoll]

De donde eres otra vez

[pallid gate]

perhaps i like the most is..this, but 2s..

[umbral crown]

De por ahi

[pale knoll]

Continente al menos

[pallid gate]

but well, with burst speed faster than..jackal? now this is real shit

[umbral crown]

Caribbean

[umbral crown]

Its a win

[pallid gate]

jackal need the link for better gain while this trina...don't even need

[quick lake]

Its the 114% dmg atk up for scarlet

[umbral crown]

But when reset skills and RH?

[pallid gate]

left most, 10/10, perhaps...Sanne can removed from the spot

[pale knoll]

Latin American?

[quick lake]

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Si

[pallid gate]

rosanna + trina + scarlet new meta now for pvp

[quick lake]

Singled buffed scar is enough now

[pallid gate]

putting team of

[pale knoll]

Ya lo deducia por el nombre

[pallid gate]

scarlet + trina + rosanna + more burst gen + more burst gen/fill

100/10

[quick lake]

yeah, seems like the best set up for now

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

But Ein Rosanna

[pallid gate]

rip Sanne, at least can be used on..different purpose

[shell hazel]

[signal hull]

Wait. Why Rosanna? Never used her much, but I thought she only gives a lot of burst if someone in party dies?

[shell hazel]

^best use for Anne

[quick lake]

B1 Nuke to highest 2 attackers

[pallid gate]

from this, to different now

[shell hazel]

scarlet and moran stonks definitely up

[quick lake]

Moran idk. But scar definitely

[pallid gate]

i don't see moran have much benefits when she don't deal dmg

[shell hazel]

2 x 0 = 0

[pallid gate]

more towards taunt together with biscuit

with Sanis with biscuit burst

addition of trina can't ..used on Sanis due to this...if you use her as burst

but well, only rifle so she is safe

[sleek root]

Haha i was just about to point it out. Glad i didn't tldr it n read till the end

[pallid gate]

i getting pepega for a little while and forgot completely that she boost a lot on AR based electric ally

[thorn pagoda]

90 pulls and no Trina
one crown and one d-killer wife
terrible

[pallid gate]

at least today got noah dupes on spark shop, got the last copy

core max noah

[unkempt meteor]

considering this are my strongest nikkes, should I build a different team instead of investing in the current one?

[quick lake]

Pvp nikkes require lesser investments, just 4OL 4/4/4 in general. So if u want to play pvp, gotta start investing eventually

pve and pvp units dont overlap that much either

[unkempt meteor]

yeah, but Ive read treasure helm is good in pvp

[quick lake]

Yep tHelm is greatttt

[unkempt meteor]

and she is one of my best units, so maybe add her to rookie team instead

[quick lake]

Can reference these teams for ideas, and u get a sensing of which are the impt units

#pvp-arena message

[unkempt meteor]

Scar Blanc RH Helm.T Jackal (3RL) or Noah Centi Cindy Helm.T Noise (2RL)?

considering Cindy is my strongest unit. Probably second one

[quick lake]

Both should work

[shell hazel]

what is my best anti comp for these teams? opponent on right

their team 2 is high feed so could scarlet it, but am at small deficit

but 2RL Noah cindy should win team 1 right?

I can't Helm into Scarlet team atm due to stealing link off Scar

[quick lake]

Opponent T1 and T3 can both 2RL Noise Cindy

T1: Scar Blanc RH
T3: 2RL Noise Noah Cindy

[shell hazel]

so my current t1 should win, and I move t2 to t3?

[quick lake]

T2 no B1 unit

[shell hazel]

[quick lake]

but yeah, u’re right

Noise should offset their RH buffed scarlet, so everybody lives

[shell hazel]

I can move noise in but it turns into 3RL I think

[quick lake]

Hmm T3 might have some weird Jackal + Bay interaction, so maybe might fail. Might

okay nvm, the guy B2 RH

[pale knoll]

Bro just threw whatever in there

[quick lake]

Can remove biscuit

[quick lake]

Noah Centi Cindy THelm Noise 2RL

[shell hazel]

yeah 🙂

[quick lake]

Should win

[shell hazel]

similar cp, still working on my units a bit

I can rec it

shall I hit the button?

[quick lake]

record pls

[shell hazel]

ye easy win

[quick lake]

woohoo

[shell hazel]

i'll upload 🙂

[quick lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1335579014072631359/RDT_20250128_1013238606177256481203010.gif

[shell hazel]

don't have nitro can't throw right in here sadly

[quick lake]

ahh its okay then

No worries a win is a win

[shell hazel]

ah no it's cool I don't mind it's just sending to youtube instead 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QdQc7TN_Q0

[quick lake]

Wooo clean win

[shell hazel]

yeah didn't feel even close 🙂

I was going to look at what def teams I wanted to use when I got Trina in then I noticed he sniped me from 1 down to 2 😄

[quick lake]

so fast

[shell hazel]

he had my seat for 30 mins

don't get attacked that often for w/e reason

[still storm]

@quick lake need help

[quick lake]

Its okay, 2.5rl is decently fast

[still storm]

No matter what I try it's not hitting 2rl

[quick lake]

What’s the context? for defence?

[still storm]

Yes

[quick lake]

Can try SBS, or Swap out Rapun or Biscuit

At 2rl, u dont really beed biscuit imo. At most rapun revives

[shell hazel]

rapu and biscuit low burst gen

[still storm]

Is biscuit a bit overkill basically?

SBS isn't that much different

[quick lake]

Well, generally I dont encourage running SAnis defences

But can swap bisc for clipSG/xmaiden

[shell hazel]

too easy to beat with biscuit + defenders right?

[still storm]

With 90 pulls should I try and get 1 copy of Trina?

[shell hazel]

Trina is 100% worth getting a copy of yes

[thorn pagoda]

i just spent 90 pulls and didn't get her a single time but you might be lucky

[shell hazel]

for pvp especially but also some pve use (boost Scar)

[quick lake]

Best counter to Sanis is scar jack, which is everyone’s pre-built atk teams

So i literally just need to swap teams to win this sanis defence

[quick lake]

if u wanna pvp and have scarlet, suree

[pale knoll]

Against rosanna you do no?

[still storm]

Trina would allow me to swap out Emilia
Who would in turn with anis and Rumani turn my garbage 3rl team into a garbage 2rl team

[pale knoll]

Attackerless team

[quick lake]

Now with trina, 2rl rosanna might be problematic yes. But generally i just tank the rosanna

[still storm]

I use Emilia for burst gen in scar jackal

[quick lake]

ye. trina burst gen pretty crazy

#pvp-arena message
All my pvp biases and preferences are all here

Sanis only got 3 teams there

[still storm]

I was thinking Scar Trina RH Jackal Centi

[shell hazel]

this needs to be pinned tbh still don't know how we get that 😄

[still storm]

Is that too fast?

[shell hazel]

also updated for Trinay things

[quick lake]

ye, abit fast. And dont need RH buffed again. Single buff trina is enough typically

Im still struggling to find good trina teams. Seems like she’s really a glass cannon

[still storm]

So maybe put SBS in there for backup?

[shell hazel]

wondering what is the best comp to throw in with Trina for when I get her, which will be after I get enough pulls to hopefully make it likely

[quick lake]

Nah, can put like laplace/xmaiden for stronger normal attacks

[shell hazel]

or is scar / blanc still likely a better def?

[rustic sandal]

Can someone tell me how can i build 3 teams to pvp

[quick lake]

My guess is best team:
Scar Trina Centi Laplace Moran

but need test more

[shell hazel]

I did wonder if both in same team was viable earlier

[upper grove]

170 pulls no trina 3 pilgrims

might have to ticket her

[quick lake]

Problem is if ur nuke is blocked, ur trina scar team kinda dead

No follow up dmg, no heal, no invuln

[shell hazel]

trina still a good def battery somewhere though I think

even if not to support scar

[quick lake]

yeah, we’ll see how we can cook

okay gn yall. Eepy time

[shell hazel]

I don't have rumani and I don't really want to build SR Anis, so my batteries are low

[quick lake]

no more cooks for me

[shell hazel]

night

[shell hazel]

who are you currently using for def and also is helm treasured?

[thorn pagoda]

that's what i did. you should use tickets

[shell hazel]

also that isn't all nikke who is missing?

[still storm]

Rip, took me 70 pulls for 6000 labels naga and Trina

[quick lake]

She’s worth it

Siren electric AR surely

[upper grove]

I usually use tickets only for pilgrims

[thorn pagoda]

you don't need to upgrade her with 3 stars so it's fine

[still storm]

I'll save the bond story for when she gets a dupe from my wishlist

[upper grove]

that's fair

[rustic sandal]

The rest are just too weak i haven't got jackal biscuit

[shell hazel]

post the rest anyway as you can get future build ideas then as well

if you skip out posting all you could have a good unit or two you could be building for later

[upper grove]

I def need 1 copy of trina by the end of her banner, not trying to get lucky with standard banner. If I didn't pull rouge back then I'd still be rougeless

[lost nebula]

I have been using the same shit for way too long, who or what can I change? I have most nikkes so just list out whatever is needed for the meta team comp the current pvp is using

I have Anis on reserve since she just got replaced by Trina, most likely gonna swap Centi for her on 3rd team

[still storm]

@quick lake should I attempt to get sr 5 doll on Trina or no?

[quick lake]

nah no need. r0 is fine

[still storm]

Or just put on sr 0?

[quick lake]

Also can, if u never intend to sr5 her

[still storm]

I want to eventually sr 5

[quick lake]

r0 then

[quick lake]

Ideas here for reference
#pvp-arena message

[lost nebula]

thanks, should ask someone to pin that

[gentle dawn]

Guys how to deal with this one? It's rookie arena

[umbral belfry]

@tropic summit Is it still too early to ask for cooks

[shell hazel]

[umbral belfry]

Pin when

[shell hazel]

am I right in thinking your own 2RL cindy comp can win this?

rumani or jackal with helm tr

they are 3RL

[swift mango]

Whale aside. It's also a matter or not whether you have more investment than your other players. Are you 10-20 level higher than others f2p who started similar time at you. Do you spend all your rock to get 10% CP higher from OL and 15%+ cs? Do you wishlist all Arena units for dupes for more CP? Attack is easy but when they get to borderline deficit against you it's hard to have options to attack. You could tell easily by 2 501 F2P one with 1.2-1.3m teams and one with 1m teams. Investment matter when you have the same amount of resource gain and time play.

[shell hazel]

I am not sure if my thinking is right or if you're better off with the old scar/jack/indom

[upper grove]

trina scar seems to be very glass cannon

[shell hazel]

is this rookie arena H?

[upper grove]

it frees up my blanc for blanc biscuit

[quick lake]

5x fire units

[gentle dawn]

I tried 2RL Cindy but idk if it's bugged or something cuz my Cindy attacks his Cindy cover while his Cindy kills mine

[empty shuttle]

How can i do this?

[upper grove]

might try something like 2RL Noah + SBS

[shell hazel]

scar/jack think you want to eat nuke with noah

[gentle dawn]

Why about this bit SBS instead of sanis

[still storm]

@quick lake oh yeah here's my core 1 scarlet

[shell hazel]

I hit this, it's pretty fast

noise is 2RL also

[tropic summit]

oh? these are pretty good def teams

[tropic summit]

do you've emilia?

[quick lake]

seems like some one from this chat built those defence

[tropic summit]

ikr, they look pretty solid

[empty shuttle]

i dont. i started during Crown

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

helm treasured? trina?

[empty shuttle]

helm treasured and i havent gotten trina yet

[quick lake]

scar is fine

[tropic summit]

that awkward moment that the enemy scar-jack looks easier than the other 2 stall teams

[upper grove]

no sleep?

[tropic summit]

let's make it easier, post ur box with nikke ordered by strength, this opponent gonna need very good tailoring

[quick lake]

lurking

[shell hazel]

[empty shuttle]

yeah. i attacked him and thats the only team i know how to counter

[tropic summit]

i think it's a good time now, we know trina kit anyway

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[tropic summit]

xmaiden burst lvl? helmT burst level?

we might wanna try nuking that scar-jack

and focus then on T1

[swift mango]

Always has been.

[empty shuttle]

helm 6 and xlud 5

[still storm]

@quick lake last call on help
there are the defenses I'm planning out (not using Anis due to low combat power

[empty shuttle]

I can +1 level on 1 of them

[umbral belfry]

It's time Want me to send box again?

[still storm]

maybe I could stick RH in one of them?

[quick lake]

All good except last team

[tropic summit]

aye

[tropic summit]

not xlud, xmaiden

[umbral belfry]

Also I'm high-key wanting to farm kraken for rocks now bc I legit can't get t9m for my main

[still storm]

run RH instead of xanne?

[empty shuttle]

oh yeah. 5. missed the name

[tropic summit]

rocks would boost your CP

[tropic summit]

hmm a bit on the low side

was thinking of this, thoughts? @swift mango @quick lake

(haven't used noah yet)

[quick lake]

not really, t3 is bad

[empty shuttle]

i only use her as off burst in sr so i didnt think i need to level her burst

[still storm]

the problem is I'm running out of options

[tropic summit]

xmaiden team should be slightly faster but not sure fast enough to avoid blanc B2 being casted

[quick lake]

t2, scar indom kinda rng

[still storm]

any alternatives I can think of are too slow

[quick lake]

can just send ur roster and i’ll cook smthing

[tropic summit]

i guess the alternative is god SBS and noah + biscuit

[umbral belfry]

helmt not treasured yet

[tropic summit]

is trina on 4/4/4 btw?

[umbral belfry]

yeah I was thinking of doing that bc naga and rh refuse to get full t9m

[umbral belfry]

mhm!

[empty shuttle]

sync236 and hes already has better pvp nikkes than me
I dont even have rumani

[umbral belfry]

I ran out if equips for leveling but rn I'm about to be 2/4 on scar

[still storm]

Drake, Laplace, Helm favorite item

[tropic summit]

that lad knows what they doing for sure

[shell hazel]

Railtracer would you say these are likely my best teams for now? wondering what to build next...

[whole pawn]

do u have Noah ? crown?

[empty shuttle]

yeah. i do

[shell hazel]

team 3 have to throw in crown probably for defender, not sure where Trina may slip in here

[whole pawn]

well at least u do, u like some ppl

[umbral belfry]

oof

[tropic summit]

last question, laplace treasured?

[empty shuttle]

But it bc i started during crown banner

[empty shuttle]

yup

[tropic summit]

yeah looks about right, get trina and you can fix T3

[lunar pawn]

any good team to consistently defeat noah sanis biscuit noise jackal? no emilia

[umbral belfry]

May your trina rolls be blessed hippo

[shell hazel]

what would I change in t3 with Trina? my remaining higher CP options aren't massive, stuff like Rapi RH/Naga etc

[lunar pawn]

2RL scar nuke isn't consistent enough

[empty shuttle]

But she is not quite beautiful

[shell hazel]

I gotta wait for hard mode so I can clear out the store

[umbral belfry]

I would say soon, but not soon enough

[shell hazel]

we get another recording? always fun to see!

[empty shuttle]

T3 is nothing right?

[tropic summit]

oh forgot to copy paste one thing tho

[mighty haven]

[tropic summit]

fixed

ye T3 you can just throw whatever you want, that 2RL ultra stall team is something you don't have resources for

[mighty haven]

Try Noah/SAnis/RH/Biscuit/HelmT

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[empty shuttle]

But i also dont have trina

[quick lake]

Estur cookin’!

[lunar pawn]

an endurance fight

[umbral belfry]

pref at least for now I'd like alice at least somewhere for the sake of cp padding, but if that's impossible that's fine too!

[tropic summit]

what's scarlet and reiT skill levels?

[mighty haven]

Their Biscuit will be spend all invuln heals on Jackal/Noah, whereas your own will only heal up Noah x2

And since all taunt going to Noah...

[empty shuttle]

@tropic summit does trina actually have to be there or just any burst gen?

[tropic summit]

where do you see trina?

[mighty haven]

T1

[umbral belfry]

scar 7/4/6(aim is 7) reit is 1/1/1 bc I'm leveling helms s1 and scar's burst rn and I'm low on resources

[empty shuttle]

oh... i looked at the right

[still storm]

Rip my Emilia isn't 21%
And why depart scarlet and Jackal

[tropic summit]

oh scar is about ready then, scar debut let's go

[umbral belfry]

[lunar pawn]

will have it tested cheers

[quick lake]

cause trina scar new meta, can give it a try

[still storm]

Wouldn't Scarlet be a bit squishy

[quick lake]

no21% still 2.5 rl with feed

[quick lake]

invuln from trina

[tropic summit]

post these teams so we can doublecheck how CP distribution is doing, let's see if trina can be used in T1 or we need rumani in T1

[still storm]

Can I leave Trina at 1/1/1 for now?

[mighty haven]

2RL Trina/Scar gets hard countered by 3RL Noah/Biscuit/Cindy

[empty shuttle]

Should i change the position a little bit to protect my noah? I just got her so i havent had her invested yet

[lunar pawn]

now we just need a b3 electric AR nuke that removes all enemy buffs before applying damage, and scar is retired

[quick lake]

1/4/1 would be good or 171

[tropic summit]

that noah is dead in p1

[shell hazel]

does Noah even want CS %? I guess maybe?

[tropic summit]

needs doll R15 or SR5, 4OL gear

[empty shuttle]

yeah deadiest dead

[quick lake]

that’s great

[shell hazel]

either way insane roll on 1 rock and my SBS is super jealous lol

[tropic summit]

and give her temperance cube

[mighty haven]

....more or less perfect roll

[umbral belfry]

on it

[tropic summit]

i guess moran is gonna have to do without biscuit

[shell hazel]

yeah my luck on rocks has been meh but that is kind of crazy

[still storm]

Wait I can use a ton more Quantum Cube, up to 6

[umbral belfry]

Wait my mana s2 isn't 10 and is no noah anywhere intentional?

[quick lake]

quantum wouldn’t change much, but can put in t3 ig

[empty shuttle]

i... also dont have moran invested

I just got Noah R doll to lv10

[mighty haven]

Missing 3 lines, it's all padding Noah

[empty shuttle]

Should i use this cube too

[shell hazel]

hey I did that yesterday as well! 😄

[still storm]

I forgot to mention my Helm is 16.95% cs, so it hits the 17% cs breakpoint

[shell hazel]

yeah I mostly roll the pvp units just for cp padding but hey a great roll is a great roll 😄

[mighty haven]

Or you get something near insane for Biscuit

[tropic summit]

let's hope blanc lives to 4RL

[quick lake]

hmm got it. Teams still the same

[shell hazel]

Where do you think Trina may slot in for team 3 based on my post? #pvp-arena message

[mighty haven]

SAC should save Blanc

[tropic summit]

what's your quantum cube lvl btw?

[shell hazel]

curious what comp changes I need to do, no rush 🙂

[shell hazel]

wonder what my biscuit has, let me check...

[umbral belfry]

these are the teams, but my mana isn't s10 and my noah isn't on any of the teams

[tropic summit]

yeah trina is too low for T1 without tanking CP i guess

[empty shuttle]

its lv5 and i also dont have rap

[umbral belfry]

gotta gear her up first sadge

[shell hazel]

@mighty haven I didn't mald em at all these were just initial rolls, atk biscuit

[tropic summit]

wow playing real hard mode there

[shell hazel]

I may have gotten her skin as well lol

[empty shuttle]

i might also need a new def team. im currently at 6th and no one can beat me... yet

[still storm]

does Emilia's Skill 1 factor into the 21%?

[tropic summit]

final draft, run this, record, yolo

(if biscuit is 2nd highest atk% she stays p2, else put in p2 whoever is second highest atk% between the other 3 minus RH)

[shell hazel]

climb higher if you can

[quick lake]

yes

[mighty haven]

Lemme go do some Moran/Scarlet/Trina testing...

[empty shuttle]

i mean... thats what im doing
Or at least trying to do

[empty shuttle]

isnt that make the run end after moran die?

[still storm]

Rn she's at 16.68% with one t11 line and level 5 s1

the 38% scares me, because that's assuming you have like 4 overload lines adding up to 24% and the S1 maxed

[quick lake]

38% is a meme, just ignore ur hahahaha

[tropic summit]

oh good point we removed biscuit from T1 because your noah was bricked

so moran will not be invulnerable, which means SBS will kill you minus moran

guess then you can walk this option instead, solo SBS

now both matches are worth 🍿

wait we miss B1

jesus le christ

[shell hazel]

haha! damn b1 gets me sometimes as well 😄

it's one reason I wanted rumani, b1 + good burst gen..

[tropic summit]

hate not having rumani

[empty shuttle]

Yo. i have the cp advantage if i do that

[shell hazel]

I think it's the main pvp unit I'm missing... pre-emi/s.anis anyway

[tropic summit]

ye but no B1

although

[empty shuttle]

oh right

[tropic summit]

their noise is in p1

if you kill noise... then you're both stuck into auto battle

[shell hazel]

not sure you do, it would be close anyway 🙂

[tropic summit]

i guess you COULD pad it out 🤔

[mighty haven]

That Biscuit is going to invuln Bay twice....otherwise, pew pew

[shell hazel]

505962K CP needed to get them into deficit I think

[tropic summit]

nah let's play it safe i guess

[floral kiln]

Iono jp and kr do they talk about new characters every now and then

[still storm]

can I swap Noise for Rapunzel for more combat power?

[tropic summit]

ok i found the missing puzzle

@empty shuttle

ironically that noise once linked is gonna drag down that team

as you'll hit noise for the whole team, bypassing biscuit invulnerable p2

[lunar pawn]

lost @mighty haven
quite consistently too

[mighty haven]

Not a good idea, if they shoot Rapunzel down you have no burst ability

[mighty haven]

My cooking failed, mb

[lunar pawn]

[tropic summit]

@empty shuttle record and go, CP should be good

[mighty haven]

What was it, Noah/SAnis/Biscuit/Noise/Jackal?

[empty shuttle]

yeah. it is. barely enough

[tropic summit]

that's T2 right?

[empty shuttle]

yup

[tropic summit]

T2 should be ok, you've endless sustain

[empty shuttle]

sbs didnt get the invul

[tropic summit]

your SBS has more HP than RH?

[pale knoll]

Where my cook

[empty shuttle]

i think... yes

[tropic summit]

beautiful helmT snipe tho, fix your SBS and RH HP (give vigor to RH) and you're gold

[empty shuttle]

Aight. but i ran out of chance today... so... in 50 mins ig

At the meantime ill try to fix my def team (with the very limited resources i have )... im having 1 team with random nikkes

tbh... i dont think i can do anything with my last team... i dont have any burst gen nikke left beside laplace and clip sgs

[tropic summit]

consider these

once trina is invested you can run var 2 more safely, although SBS should CP pad very well as flex

the whole point of that var 2 is having the enemy having to decide where to throw their noah, as all the 3 teams there kinda force one, either noah or indom

[pale knoll]

Noah

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-gif-18261463

[umbral belfry]

doable in the future mayhap? naturally scar and trina are on the lower side rn bc kinda newish

[tropic summit]

def teams:

quantum on jackal, centi, pepper
vigor on noise, blanc, biscuit, pepper
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

notes: get rumani and rapunzel (wishlist) to improve T1 and T3

[tropic summit]

you know what to do until you've her

either bay copium or run moran and nero

if none of those are ready, CP pad to oblivion

[pale knoll]

Alright

[tropic summit]

although, with trina you could aim for glass cannon scarlet and a 3rd option

[pale knoll]

I'll see, defense without noah is pretty cooked anyways

[empty shuttle]

I have them on wishlist for a while now. Noah was the only one that came recently so im not complaining

[mighty haven]

Feeeeeeed

[tropic summit]

copium noah-less defense

[mighty haven]

No Bay?

[tropic summit]

oh T2 becomes 2RL with quantum, forgot to add them

[tropic summit]

tanks CP and speed, up to him

[pale knoll]

Centi won't die in p1?

I guess some of the pressure will go into noise anyways?

[mighty haven]

Your burst gen fast enough

[tropic summit]

correct, p1 and p2 are taunted to noise

centi on SR15 or SR5 is generally tanky enough to reach 2RL

then again, it's not like you got a choice, can sacrifice speed for safety, but 3RL cindy is even easier than 2RL

you could use a biscuit there but you turn into 3RL

[pale knoll]

I usually run noise p1 since she's got more investment +c4

[tropic summit]

if you confident in surviving SG spam go for it

[empty shuttle]

So now i need to invest in noah and volume. OL the head and shirt with an sr doll is enough right?

[tropic summit]

why volume? 🤨

[empty shuttle]

i mean noise. I keep messing up the name

[still storm]

@quick lake should I start considering overloads for Rumani, and getting Emilia to 21% CS with s1 to 7 and hunting for more charge speed?

[tropic summit]

oh oke

but ye head and body with R15 or SR5, don't use SR0 it just kills your odds at improving it

[empty shuttle]

I hope i still have something left for the next sr after this . it was quite sketchy this season

[lunar pawn]

any team ideas? only t2 wins atm

[empty shuttle]

It works this time @tropic summit thanks

[eager mountain]

@tropic summit oh well oh well 595 trina isnt enough to nuke a full hp c7 likely s15 rh
almost hitting deficit tho, but insane enough

[lunar pawn]

wrong pvp char

[rancid kernel]

What is the best PvP areana characters to use and which order?

[tropic summit]

i'd argue it makes sense... should try with equal or decently invested reiT, the elem. weakness might suffice, although you'd need RH and blanc or similar

[eager mountain]

just a data there

[tropic summit]

since your stats are way worse and their stats way better, elem. weakness would be the only savior

[tropic summit]

#justWhaleThings

[tropic summit]

noice, glad it worked out

[eager mountain]

gotta 51010 my trina, sigh

[empty shuttle]

i got another ssr that is not trina

[jagged sedge]

Trina is SSS tier pvp

insane heals and dps boost

I dont even have her that invested

[tulip holly]

@tropic summit how to adapt attack scar team to trina ?vs no specific player , right now im soaring a good position so I dont really need specific team I just swap positions if I lose lol

but I guess it's better if I do add trina to the formation

[dire root]

rip 4th is lost more and more on my bracket break wall.

[eager mountain]

i mean.... just make it 2rl, only thing is the b1 choice, varies

[dire root]

very hard to compete with someone who has 40 levels over you

[tulip holly]

I understant the concept and at the same time I dont lol

that's why I ask here

[dire root]

In fact it looks like most in my bracket broke wall

[eager mountain]

rosa weak to rez/rosa but is really annoying
noise can reach 2rl with xmaiden and have sustain
moran should have best sustain but needs insane investment
or rh if deficit/opponent runs noise/moran/anchor

[dire root]

guess I got left behind lol

I wonder where they get so many SSRs from.

Magic

[eager mountain]

top of the bracket be like that

[tropic summit]

as tibi said, i guess the direct upgrade would be replacing anis with trina, better CP and some buffs

either that or upgrade that team to natural 2RL by removing RH and adding a clip burst gen tier

[lone sequoia]

scarlet/trina/rh/rumani/jackal 2RL double buffed

[tulip holly]

rumani

[lone sequoia]

centi-anis-emi-enemy feed

you reach 2RL already with xanne

[eager mountain]

just any 2 clip rl i mean

[lone sequoia]

you can use xmaiden-laplace if enemy use 1AR

[tropic summit]

can also trina variation instead of usual scar-jack, up to you, a pretty good scenario here to test it out if you want to

[shell hazel]

Railtracer-sama, I appreciate probably lost in the chat but wondered what you made of this one: #pvp-arena message 🙂

[eager mountain]

arent u gonna pull trina

team gonna change a lot once u have her so might as well wait

[shell hazel]

I am planning to do so, just need to get her (need to get the pulls from the shop ideally)

wondered what sort of comp I'd run with her

[eager mountain]

scar trina as usual, freeing blanc jackel for more balanced teams

[shell hazel]

I do wonder if you really want scar / trina on def though

feels glass cannon

[lone sequoia]

the only 2 options for trina right now are scarlet nuke and moran+sustain (flex)

[shell hazel]

she's a good battery unit in her own right as well

[lone sequoia]

yeah, but same for anis or rumani

[eager mountain]

feels glass cannon but like i said its for ur other 2 team to be functional

[lone sequoia]

if you want to build a team for her you think in synergies

[eager mountain]

u can build a nearly unbreakable broken t1 and thats still gonna be very beatable, no point

[lone sequoia]

she looks good for my scarlet/bay comp

[eager mountain]

all teams gonna have its issues, and scar trina's issue isnt that big

[lone sequoia]

but i don't have mats to lvlup her S1 to test

[tropic summit]

get rumani and this could get even more interesting

[tropic summit]

^

👆

[empty shuttle]

I dropped way to fast

[tropic summit]

generally hitting right after reset leads to that

you gotta wait till they log off

[valid aurora]

no way quantum cube is clutching something

[eager mountain]

blame rail for calling it glass cannon and into thinking its not a more then decent enough defense team even if one have all units

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-cant-see-gif-14597368

[lone sequoia]

the only problem for nuke comps is the enemy speed, same result for nuke comps if you have the damage and hit first, only 1 thing and is a lose or a win

[shell hazel]

me blind sorry Rail 😄

[empty shuttle]

the dude online 24/7 i assume. cuz when i beat him every point of the day could just climbed up 1 hour late max

[tropic summit]

i mean... indom would be a tiny bit better, still forces a noah which is great

[tropic summit]

well there are those kind of lads around

i knew a few that checked every 2hrs

you're best avoid those because they're generally also gemmers

[lone sequoia]

and biscuit if their p1~p3 units are weak

[shell hazel]

who does Rumani replace? pepper is a child with no strength in my team atm

[tropic summit]

SG feed needs to go, so any of those SG in the first place

also leads to natural 2RL cindy instead of pepper

[empty shuttle]

i mean... there are only 3 in the top3 and 3 of them do that
So ig ill jst stick with #6 until i get better def team and she how they go

[eager mountain]

too many ways to counter too many def teams, sigh

[tropic summit]

bah go and bully ch4 or ch5, then you can stay in range of ch1-ch2-ch3

hit them when they log off, rinse and repeat

[lone sequoia]

yeah, and the same 3 teams work against almost every team, just reach the cp

[shell hazel]

can I do much if I ignore pepper for now? I will build Trina probably first and then hope for a Rumani later

[tropic summit]

well you need a backup B1 or an extra flex B2 in p1/p2 and noise moved to p5

[empty shuttle]

I can win with just this right?

[tropic summit]

can go back to this in case you're not ready without rumani/pepper

[lone sequoia]

T3 lose

[tropic summit]

i didn't know Nesso knew how to joke

[tropic summit]

remind me, did you get trina?

[shell hazel]

does Trina slot in anywhere in my existing teams meanwhile or do I kind of need to get Rumani or Pepper built?

[empty shuttle]

nope. i just got cocoa instead

[tropic summit]

maybe you missed her

[lone sequoia]

burst gen unit, b2 buffer for scarlet or moran flex

[shell hazel]

ah no I didn't but that change my team 3 a lot I guess, still should work 🙂

[empty shuttle]

i might have to ticket trina

[shell hazel]

i'll boost Noah a bit more and then I'll hopefully be ready for some Trina focus

[tropic summit]

sounds good

but trina as nesso said works with eletric code rifles

[shell hazel]

thanks as always 🙂

[tropic summit]

else just consider her an anis without low stats

[tepid cairn]

Hi, need help to update my sp arena def. It's been a while since i last updated my def, last year i think. Before, it's
Jackal/Scarlet/Crown/Noir/Naga
Blanc/Emilia/RH/Biscuit/Centi
Noise/Noah/S.Anis/Rapunzel/Tia

LapT and helmT both t3

[empty shuttle]

ur sync level is quite near me. r we in the same bracket somehow

[bleak latch]

can't believe i can go fast enough to out run noah shield

[tepid cairn]

Maybe yes maybe no

[eager mountain]

its 3rl noah

[bleak latch]

i'll try more with enemy sanis team

[shell hazel]

yeah this is good for me I really don't want to build SR anis unless I have to, I know she has good burst gen but I don't want to spend the resources on her, by the time I'm sort of done elsewhere I guess I may need to if we get CA

[empty shuttle]

my top 1 areana is already sunc 353. meanwhile im the 2nd highest at 340 but im only 6th

[tepid cairn]

Different bracket then. My 1st already 500++

[tropic summit]

how built is your RRH? how much ammo OL

[bleak latch]

even work with sanis comp

[eager mountain]

cuz that sanis is also 3rl aint gonna noah the nuke....

[tropic summit]

now do it against 2RL

you'll be dissapointed

[eager mountain]

no difference between those 2 comps there

[bleak latch]

i know it's not gonna work against 2RL

[tropic summit]

[bleak latch]

but there is no 2RL in rookies

[empty shuttle]

2 ammo with 3 atk

[umbral belfry]

think this is good for now right? should all be 3RL. im assuming helmt takes naga when I get her?

[bleak latch]

in SP maybe

[tropic summit]

might be doable on a lot of copium perhaps 🤔

[empty shuttle]

oh wait. rapi. hold up

[tropic summit]

yes RRH

rapi le red hooderino

[empty shuttle]

3 atk 3 ammo
Better than rh

[tropic summit]

looks good hime

[swift mango]

Only getting 1 rock today but my Scarlet finally has some improvement....

[shell hazel]

wouldn't want her p1 at least 🙂

[umbral belfry]

yippie time to continue to gear scar and trina up

[tropic summit]

ok, are you feeling adventerous?

swap anis with centi as needed to balance CP in case

(remember RH needs more HP than RRH to ensure indom on RRH)

[umbral belfry]

yeah i figured that much. I'm assuming helmt goes p4?

well that whole formation might switch now that I think about it

[shell hazel]

yeah check in again I guess when you got helmt

skill 1 needs close to 10 or 10 as well

[swift mango]

My Scarlet finally has 4 Crit lines... Now I need around 16 rocks before I get that line FR and fix the CP....

[empty shuttle]

RPP b3
Will she work?

[swift mango]

[umbral belfry]

at s1 lv7 rn. I wonder how much that'll equate to speed wise

[tropic summit]

lemme see if i can find that RRH vid from retro...

you aiming for this:

@empty shuttle

#pvp-arena message

[empty shuttle]

I dont like his description about that: so close

Aight. ill record it and see

[tropic summit]

hence why if you feel adventerous

then again nothing to lose if you're secured on ch4-ch6 range

learning the limits of what you can run is a good lesson

clearly not pushing you just so i can taste good 🍿

[still storm]

does trina Scarlet suck against Rosanna?

[swift mango]

If DEF, no. If ATK maybe.

[empty shuttle]

lets go gambling

[still storm]

because I stuggle with keeping scarlet alive for the burst

[tropic summit]

true gacha experience

[bleak latch]

rapunzel / Xanne can fix that

[umbral belfry]

so rail can taste good

[still storm]

the problem is I would lose burst gen somewhere

[swift mango]

If RRH is amongst your highest CP and you wanted to CP pad you could try.

[empty shuttle]

too late

[tropic summit]

let's add context just in case

[still storm]

the best replacement option is rapu for laplace

[empty shuttle]

its loading

[sleek root]

Learnt something new LoL.. putting Rosanna at P5, she get's ignore from her "Concealment" and do more damage

[tropic summit]

if it takes a while to load, means you kicked into indom at least

[swift mango]

HelmT, Tempering and SR15

[empty shuttle]

its not even close

[tropic summit]

RIP RRH

[tropic summit]

forever 30 fps locked

[empty shuttle]

i mean... not even close for the other team

[tropic summit]

wait what.

[swift mango]

Rossana p5 is the same as Rossanna p4 though.... Unless they could kill your p1(-2) somehow

[tropic summit]

oh just got to see it, yeah went way better than expected

initial burst dmg did quite a number on its own

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

uh and you still had almost half indom left @empty shuttle

guess you just discovered your own anti bay stall team

[empty shuttle]

hm.... this might also solo 2.5 blanc scarlet

[tropic summit]

no, you'd be feeding scarlet to 2RL and RRH would be killed by counters alone, don't do that

[swift mango]

Their team is trash anyway ...

[tropic summit]

against scarlet never run high feed nikke

[empty shuttle]

oh right. rapi is one

[tropic summit]

it's the very reason you're running that peculiar rouge team

very tiny bits of feed, just speed and link nuke oriented

the added value is the sustain

[swift mango]

If you ever use team 1 of this vid again, swap place Rouge and Centi.

[empty shuttle]

so i can bring that 2rl team (almost) anywhere and only adjust the 2nd team if i want to attack?

[tropic summit]

in general a noah team and a scarlet team can deal with 2 teams

when you can't, it's because the opponent isn't too dumb

but those may still work regardless

attack is way easier than def

[swift mango]

When you can't, it's because CP gap.

[thorny sequoia]

😆 I just read the skills for new cow Nikke 😂

She's like OG Scarlet best friend in PVP wtffff I must pull 😂

[swift mango]

I want to build Trina and ReiT but my Scarlet grubling 40+ of my rock just for 1 Crit line.

Still need 10+ more rock to improve the CP back to where it start.

Still need to improve CP of Noah and biscuit too... Should have done this first...

Too much to roll, but no rock...

[empty shuttle]

ill invest in trina once i get her cuz i need her for next sr

[pale knoll]

@tropic summit does it round down or up?

[tropic summit]

nah 98 is dependant on scarlet counters

it's going to be either 2.5RL or 2RL or in between

[pale knoll]

Gamble, nice

[tropic summit]

either way the opponent will be forced to noah it

as they don't wanna take risks

[pale knoll]

True

Oh and btw, using trina I found that my scar just barely lives to nuke the team

With a sliver of hp before dying

[tropic summit]

that's... not great

give her temperance or vigor

[swift mango]

2.2RL is fine actually.

If you used Trina and Anis being placeholder you will need 3 counter in 2rl to get to 2rl for that team.

One counter is only 0.45%

[pale knoll]

You remember the match I showed you before?

The one with blanc emi red hood laplacet helmt

I went with scarlet emilia trina rh thelm and scar died

1ms from nuke

Then I replaced rh with noise

And she did survive to nuke and win

[tropic summit]

yeah seems like a safer choice to run that

is your scarlet SR15 doll tho?

[pale knoll]

Sr5

That's probably why

OL is 5 5 5 3

10 7 9 skills

[swift mango]

Tempering lv7?

[pale knoll]

Didn't try tempering on her yet, it's only lvl 4 as of now

[eager mountain]

huh there is a new version of gen sheet? isnt it also 1.4.2

[pale knoll]

Speed running resilience to 15 currently, lvl 13 now

[pale knoll]

This one is gatrix

[swift mango]

Lv7 vigor?

[pale knoll]

5

[umbral belfry]

what cube does scar go on a trina team?

[swift mango]

Yeah kinda bricked, just use your highest level cube for more def and hp then.

[pale knoll]

Yeah, she's on lvl 13 resi. Could upgrade both tempering and vigor to 7, but I'm saving the chips for now

[swift mango]

Noise would steal p1+2 from Scarlet though, not very idea. Use Rapu instead.

If CP is not a problem

[pale knoll]

Wdym?

[swift mango]

Scarlet won't counter if they attack Noise.

[pale knoll]

You mean in the scar emilia trina thelm noise comp?

[tropic summit]

appearentely not so much of a gamble at least

[swift mango]

Yes

[pale knoll]

It's just to take a bit of pressure off scarlet actually

She nuked anyways

[tropic summit]

96%

[pale knoll]

Not this

[swift mango]

Rapu is enough for surviving as she heal her back, actually it's better.

[pale knoll]

[tropic summit]

TL;DR 96% you hit 2RL, 4% you hit 2.1-2.3RL

[pale knoll]

Bringing back memories

[tropic summit]

fortunately chatGPT exists today

imagine if it existed during my calculus exam at uni

[pale knoll]

[eager mountain]

it looks like it should be this formula tho

[pale knoll]

Will try that then, rapunzel is OL too, so shouldn't drop much cp

[tropic summit]

oh here comes the TiBi who actually knows maths, i'm gonna get cooked

[bleak shale]

just use a chance calculator, https://dskjal.com/statistics/chance-calculator.html

[eager mountain]

seems like gpt is better at statistics then linear algebra

i tried it on linear algebra stuff and its garbage

[tropic summit]

imagine there's ppl using this in medicine

[eager mountain]

when AI is literally linear algebra

and they mess up linear algebra really bad

how the f*^k

[crystal flicker]

Calculus is easy

[pale knoll]

It's actually not as complicated as people make it out to be, just not so fun

[shell hazel]

[crystal flicker]

yeh, I always got A in math related exam in Univ

[tropic summit]

i went to uni for 2 years and realized i was fine dealing with servers and databases instead

[eager mountain]

it get unfun when u go differential equation
sh*t's a mess

[pale knoll]

Oh the memories

[tropic summit]

launching a DB restore?
messing with a windows doing dumb shit?

sure thing

messing with maths, statistics and shiet? hell nah

[pale knoll]

So you quit? 👀

[tropic summit]

ye 2 years and i got fed up and quit

[pale knoll]

Fair enough tbh

[crystal flicker]

I was a backend lol

[pale knoll]

What were you studying at uni?

[tropic summit]

programming

a bad decision, because it was anything but programming

[eager mountain]

frontends are beyond cooked rn lol

[tropic summit]

although at least got to see some fun things with assembly, java, c+, python

[crystal flicker]

fe kinda cool though

[tropic summit]

but ye, better stick to actual IT and far away from coding