pvp-arena

[tawny vine]

every spot is safe when you power gap everyone

[graceful grotto]

yeap

1st is only targeted by #4, 2nd is targeted by #5 mostly (unless #4 can't hit #1 or #3), 3rd is targeted by #4, #5, #6 lmao

[umbral crown]

Just you?

Sus

[eager mountain]

[quick lake]

[dire root]

I can't wait for the new banner, I'm going to do like 200 rolls without getting the pickup and then buy her with millage out of salt.

[crystal flicker]

rookie numbers

[dire root]

I'm not rich enough to do anything but rookie numbers.

[final wedge]

guys....does invunerable effect gain burst gen when hit??

do we have any reference for early invunerable before bursting dat signify burst gen is triggered or not?

im thinkin wanna cook Trina with Moran

[bleak shale]

Invul units still give burst gen or else we would see people failing to burst after enemy Noah bursted

[final wedge]

ah yes2 ur right....tyty

[bleak shale]

Afaik atleast, it just sets the damage to 0

[coarse lake]

so.... how's everyone's gem stock? ready to swipe your credit cards?

[quick lake]

Pulling Eva was a mistake

[vapid lake]

still have plenty of gems

[coarse lake]

I do too

glad I didn't go for dupes on eva

well I would have had enough to try for dupes if reit didn't annihilate me

[vapid lake]

I only mlbed asuka for that lobby screen and thought about getting rei but nah

[coarse lake]

mfer getting relegated to champ before her banner even ended smh

[vapid lake]

at the end of the day asuka will be used in more content than rei

[tulip quest]

MEH SAD for me too poor

[coarse lake]

mid af in pve, second tier nuker in pvp now

[tulip quest]

same

[graceful grotto]

It's Eva 1.0 all over again

[quick lake]

I was lied to

[nimble portal]

So is new unit a clip RL?

[glad glade]

Yep

[wicked horizon]

How do you guys tell?

[eager mountain]

ca not in patch note and its not the last march patch

ive been saying its clip reload for whole day and mf be like "clip? how? clip?"

[quick lake]

Never forget the last minute SAnis clipSG chanfe

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet + Trina 17% deficit one shot DPS

[nimble portal]

Now i wonder which one correct omg

[umbral belfry]

She came home

[glad glade]

She came home and I tested her in the shooting range

[wicked horizon]

Okay, and, what was the tell?

[eager mountain]

if its clip reload then its clip

rocket science

[glad glade]

Oh, she reloads by parts. Like 1st reload she puts in 2 bullets, second reload she puts in 2 more bullets so it’s 4 bullets in total, and so on until she reaches max ammo

[little oak]

Is she anything new for PvP or replace anyone

[eager mountain]

hard meta

[valid fern]

its definitely clip. but whether or not she has clip gen remains to be seen.

[eager mountain]

takes 2 min to test her in union whether u have her or not

and its

[valid fern]

im broke boi

i did mean to buy rainbow tickets from eva event but I forgor

had to deal with an excruciating toothache.

[eager mountain]

50pulls no ss this is not gonna end up well

[raven plover]

60 and you get it

[eager mountain]

i do single pulls

well, 72 pulls, not that bad at all

[covert lintel]

CA will always get delayed until anis graduation show

[jagged sedge]

New character has burst gen like jackal

Potentially faster with the right upgrades

[deft pelican]

what Cube should i use on noah ?

[eager mountain]

Temper or vigor or quantum

[deft pelican]

Temper better sustain ?

[eager mountain]

If same skill level

[final wedge]

if still not get then do 70

[vapid lake]

trina is a clip rl confirmed?

[eager mountain]

as it was already confirmed

[valid fern]

woah. apparently higher gen than jackal. that's nice

[eager mountain]

u cliped or

[valid fern]

just reading off the spreadsheet

[umbral belfry]

higher than jackal?

[eager mountain]

that was a pretty darn fast update

[quick lake]

Higher than Anis

2nd highest burst gen

[vapid lake]

Jackal will remain #1 forever as long as she has the link feed

Very hard to beat her

Well maybe helmt

[eager mountain]

i mean ofc 5 sg vs jackel then jackel has more gen then helmt

but 1 feed is usually guranteed so still higher then trina

[vapid lake]

I can use trina to buff other screen wipers too right not just scar, even if im scarless i can't skip

[dim sapphire]

All 2rl team soon who need 17% cs

[eager mountain]

for raid?

[eager mountain]

the more the merrier

[lunar dirge]

Already beaten

[vapid lake]

Trina higher than helmt? no way

[lunar dirge]

No, talking that helmt can kinda beat Jackal already

[thin abyss]

How good is Trina burst Gen? Anis level?

[lunar dirge]

Still, 28,8 for Trina in 2rl

[eager mountain]

its not really kinda given we done even see any sg except sanis in def now

helmt gen just a whole lv above all

[swift mango]

Need 20% CS now for 1.6rl teams.

[whole pawn]

I got trina, is she must to be build?

[vapid lake]

giving us such strong pvp units suggests CA is out but i see no sign of it

[thin abyss]

If you love OG Scarlet sure, she buffs her even better than Crown

[vapid lake]

[eager mountain]

u should be able to tell

[whole pawn]

I was just making sure

[eager mountain]

s2 + clip rl makes her beyond hard meta

[swift mango]

You sure? She is also only used for raid. Unless you pull Asuka to core +7 you aren't using her in campaign anytime soon.

[whole pawn]

I m just pulling her for scar, I don't have crown anyway

[swift mango]

[vapid lake]

Kraken

Kick alice out run kraken sbs asukaW helm easy life

[swift mango]

You don't have SBS built? She isn't working for u?

[eager mountain]

and still no skill reset

[vapid lake]

I don't want to play alice every day against kraken

Asuka can auto on a phone easier

[swift mango]

You can just auto Alice. Who care about her? Burst with HelmT is fine too.

[eager mountain]

more then used to with it
better spam doesnt change much to me, since 2min gets me s7

so used to with it that i still wanna spam as bit as helm

[whole pawn]

i m building trina after maids, so do we know about triina skill priority?

[livid pasture]

Is she a clip RL?

[eager mountain]

as mentioned s2, s2, s2

[swift mango]

4107

[whole pawn]

max s 2 mm

[eager mountain]

burst wipe buff doesnt impact pvp, but burst level still matters bit

[quick lake]

s2 to 10, and u're done

[swift mango]

Is Cindy decoy count as non-nikke enemy?

[vapid lake]

Easy 4 u to say u lvl 400, for me manual vs auto alice is the difference between s6 and s7

[eager mountain]

i donno need to test it

need a meh nuke team vs cindy in rookie

[swift mango]

Just get more level

[eager mountain]

if a meh nuke kills without deficit then yeah

[vapid lake]

Can only get more level by fast forwarding time

I have no more boxes

[swift mango]

Just fast forward time.

[eager mountain]

rerolling lines for her but

lol.... 3 elem

yeah yeah yeah more cp but she is elec

[swift mango]

She is a buffer, she only need CP.

[eager mountain]

also getting atk

man if shes dps

[eager mountain]

i only want her to get cs unless i wanna mess with c1-3 then i need the cp as well

[eternal sleet]

Apologies for cutting in but do combat power matter in rookie arena/ just pvp in general?

[quick lake]

I dont have enough mats to level trina's gear

[eager mountain]

in general

[quick lake]

Yes! it does. Anything more than a 15.4% CP difference between teams, there is a stat penalty

[lone sequoia]

if clip; cs
if pvp; ele
if healer; ammo

[eager mountain]

best defense is good team + deficit

[tulip quest]

ya

[quick lake]

4x cs for more heals too

[swift mango]

CS is fine but for CP you need fishing high tier lines rather than Ele. Ele is nice to have but not a must.

For Arena you don't need much more than 6 ammo even for healer

[eager mountain]

shes elec anyway

pretty much pure cp pad

tho, also can be used in elec weak raid, but shes a supp anyway

ugh, scar trina rosa would need jackel anis to reach 2rl

[tulip quest]

SHE Didn't came home aaaa

[eager mountain]

honestly putting moran scar same team wont hurt, b1 doesnt matter anyway since trina buff does the job

that way wont need jackel at all

[pale knoll]

So what's trina?

Just woke up

[quick lake]

clipRL, better burst gen then Anis

[eternal sleet]

So I’m kinda stuck then if the opponent is around 200k (they’re 888k and I’m 684k) power above me and has a really solid team?

[pale knoll]

No way

[eager mountain]

althought 3 quantum would do it with 1 scar feed

[quick lake]

Yep. With that difference, practically impossible to win

[eternal sleet]

[pale knoll]

So 2nd best burst gen now?

[graceful grotto]

Clip, meta frfr

[quick lake]

yes indeed

[pale knoll]

Bro there's no way they did it

[graceful grotto]

We gonna have 2 2rl team now lmao

She came super early for me too

[pale knoll]

Literally must pull

[graceful grotto]

Yeap buff scar into PvE viable + pvp meta

Gonna OL her before rumani now lmao

[pale knoll]

What happened to the "new content"?

[lunar dirge]

This

[pale knoll]

[whole pawn]

I thought it's new titi..

[unreal latch]

triana burst gen level?

[vapid lake]

Higher than anis

[graceful grotto]

2nd highest

[wicked horizon]

How do I make these 3 not die before I burst when fighting at a CP deficit?

[crystal flicker]

tbh

[vapid lake]

Dont fight at a cp deficit

[crystal flicker]

Noah Biscuit

[wicked horizon]

I wish.

[wicked horizon]

Isn't that two B2s?
But they're taken anyhow.

[graceful grotto]

Sweet

[crystal flicker]

Noah Cindy is like 2nd template for PvP after Scarlet Jackal

[quick lake]

Trina scar looks pretty good for pve as well

[graceful grotto]

Yeap

[wicked horizon]

Why spend Noah on that though?
I have her with SAnis, who needs safety for longer.

[graceful grotto]

But very nichely catered to og scar

[graceful grotto]

I would say Noah basically can work with any DPS lol

[wicked horizon]

If the team already gets to full burst, it's rather unlikely that Cinderella won't finish her burst.

[graceful grotto]

Noah + Scarlet

Noah + Cindy

Noah + Emilia

Noah + Sanis

Noah + SBS

[pale knoll]

Cooked any def with trina? 👀

[wicked horizon]

So I don't need the 3s of invuln. usually.

Not as much as SAnis does.

[crystal flicker]

I mean that's the most reliable way

[graceful grotto]

I just put Scarlet Emilia Sanis Trina Jackal

[quick lake]

Some Scar Trina 2RL probably

[wicked horizon]

As I said, she's taken. Any other options?

[graceful grotto]

Gone are the days u put Blanc pos2 just so her buff would proc scarlet only

Now u can linked two DPS pos 1 pos 2

[quick lake]

Yeah, that's pretty big as well imo

[wicked horizon]

I tried just putting Crown (SR 15 doll) up front, but yeah, she dies.

[graceful grotto]

Crown need biscuit

Otherwise she dead

[wicked horizon]

Well, Biscuit's with Noah, as usual.

[vapid lake]

Reitn banner gone, once i get trina full OL i can finally switch my defense aronud

[graceful grotto]

I already switch mine lmao

[vapid lake]

I hope everyone in my bracket skipped rei thinking she trash

[graceful grotto]

Haven't ol rumani yet so she's out

[vapid lake]

I didnt want to run rei incase they skipped her

Thinking shes not good at pvp

[wicked horizon]

I'd try Noise, but she's not much tankier, is she?

[vapid lake]

I don't have scar but i can at least use trina to buff rei

[tropic summit]

looks like we were right on the money with the clip RL reloading

[quick lake]

hey rail!

[tropic summit]

for once expectations weren't betrayed 🤔

[quick lake]

14.4 burst gen, better than Anis

Trina definitely sss tier

[tropic summit]

although another expectation was betrayed

[wicked horizon]

Designed for the CA that's definitely gonna be surprise released any moment now.

[vapid lake]

I called it clip rl 3 days ago, ppl were doubting

[quick lake]

Need to change the date in ur name again

[covert lintel]

should i use tix for trina?

[wicked horizon]

Just pull, you have 2 weeks.

[graceful grotto]

R u pvp slave like us?

And do you have og scarlet?

[vapid lake]

doubters

[graceful grotto]

I at least was 50% right

Clip RL kewk

[tropic summit]

trash kit?

[vapid lake]

She has both an insane kit and is clip rl

[tropic summit]

making scarlet nearly as strong as cindy is trash nowdays uh? let alone pvp meta

[graceful grotto]

But her kit honestly is pure scarlet buff hahaha

[covert lintel]

i have

[sharp nymph]

@graceful grotto Time to have a talk with you over on the #military-academy-chat

[sharp nymph]

Just joking.

[graceful grotto]

Am I losing MA status? Kewkkkk darn u cow girl

[wicked horizon]

Problem is, Cinderella is buffed less than with someone else.

[sharp nymph]

[graceful grotto]

Yeah

[covert lintel]

what's this

[eager mountain]

just cooked my 3* 2rl def, let see how it goes

[wicked horizon]

So, no P1 tanks aside from Biscuit's target or Jackal's link?

[graceful grotto]

She prolly won't reach Cindy level, and for PvE it's gonna be hard when you're only catering ONE specific unit

[eager mountain]

needs pepper for those to be smooth and not feed dependent

[wicked horizon]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1298595788913377344

[sharp nymph]

Wow copy and paste

[eager mountain]

no access

[wicked horizon]

Damn, can't fool you.

[eager mountain]

how rail cooking

[wicked horizon]

Discord actually shows the names of unaccessible chats, but the client doesn't.

[eager mountain]

no emi, good 3*2rl gonna be a bit tricky

[wicked horizon]

No one?
How do you guys protect your third team?

[graceful grotto]

What's your team like?

[eager mountain]

got quantum to lv8 for 5th slot

[graceful grotto]

A full on 2-3 2RL team meaning you're using centi, Noah, rumani, jackal, tHelm, emi, Anis (?), Trina

[tropic summit]

looks like we can make multiple 2RL teams

[graceful grotto]

At least 2 easily now

[tropic summit]

def might get an upgrade but it also gets higher requirements now

[graceful grotto]

I still make it

2RL - 3RL - 3RL though

[vapid lake]

Damn i really need to ol anis to get x2 2rl

[graceful grotto]

Don't wanna bring my CP down too much

[eager mountain]

well id need to ol pepper

anis is fine

[graceful grotto]

Pepper?

U doing SG team?

[eager mountain]

nope, but to make mine all 2rl

sg feed doesnt matter much now in high sync anyway

[tropic summit]

trina on anis level tho... they really let that pass somehow

[covert lintel]

i want to tix trina but i'm afraid siren in half anniv will be good for pvp too

[eager mountain]

since teams gonna be mostly 2rl

as long as its not multiple sg bringing 2rl jackel to 1rl

[gaunt cypress]

YOOO another RL clip,

[graceful grotto]

What's ur team like?

[vapid lake]

That means ca coming soon surely

[tropic summit]

already changed my name

[vapid lake]

27th march mark ur calendar

[eager mountain]

stall anis noah
scar trina
jackel rapun emi

[covert lintel]

cope

[vapid lake]

I didnt say this march

[graceful grotto]

Oh u took out scarjac altogether

[quick lake]

Rip SPA

[eager mountain]

yeah no need, takes a well timed well invested rosa to break anyway with or without her

[covert lintel]

why no noise

[eager mountain]

scar trina 2rl itself it strong enough to force 2rl noah

[quick lake]

Noise too slow

[eager mountain]

mine doesnt have noise a well

replaced her with pepper for slight more gen to break 2rl

[tropic summit]

yeah was thinking also of this one

for the emilia havers if anything

essentially opponent is forced into 2RL regardless of matchup

[quick lake]

yeah, very doable to get 3x 2RL

[eager mountain]

that emi jackel would need 20 feeds
tho any ar or above on enemy team gonna do it

[swift mango]

Should I MLB her?

[eager mountain]

imma just mlb her with normals

still not used cuz no anchor there

[quick lake]

Easier to do double feed jackal now, so that's actually a big plus

[swift mango]

I got Noah from it during Eva Collab.

[eager mountain]

200 black ticket stonk

[graceful grotto]

Can do this too

Too many SG for my liking tho

[tropic summit]

add to the fact helmT on a non stall oriented team and SBS being one of the B3 weak to biscuit doesn't add value to it

[quick lake]

Yeahhh, alot of possible defences

[covert lintel]

oh really?

[swift mango]

CP gonna tank for using another 0lb, oh well

[near plank]

who has trina and tested her for pvp?

[quick lake]

Most of us here

[near plank]

scarlet can solo kill with just trina righT?

[quick lake]

pvp fanatics smh

yep! Single Trina buff is enough

[near plank]

so you can run trina scarlet + 3 burst gen

for 1.5 rl team

[quick lake]

Based on math at least. Havent tried in practice

[swift mango]

Can't test unbuilt units unless against bricked in rookie

[near plank]

and scarlet will never die

[covert lintel]

i still have this
i hope i can get 4 trina from this

[near plank]

cause trina has 2 sec invuln for scarlet she will always b urst

[near plank]

i dont have any resources to invest so i need you guys to test for me

[eager mountain]

well, the def didnt work, trina team cuz cp gapped cuz of lv diff

[quick lake]

Dont think there's enough burst gen for 1.5RL though hmmm

[near plank]

even with helm?

[eager mountain]

gonna hit 541 soon and then see if level gap is an issue against that c3 mf in def
now just gonna let other hit this def
def is still getting worse and worse anyway

[vapid lake]

U can make faster def teams but enemy can make even faster atk teams now

[quick lake]

yeah definitely doesnt work.
1RL and 1.5RL is the same for both because there's no half-a-projectile

[vapid lake]

[quick lake]

With 5RL in the team, its either 1 RL or 2RL

[near plank]

not half a projectile, its 50% charge speed time

[eager mountain]

well, all gonna be 2rl, assuming having all chara

[near plank]

the time it takes to charge up 1.5x

[quick lake]

But u cant charge half a charge speed. Its either full charge or nothing

[near plank]

charge speed lines

[eager mountain]

team comp gonna be highly fixed for higher sync since we just hit a stable 3*2rl comp

[quick lake]

Even with 5RL units with 17% CS on everyone, its 1.67RL at most

[wicked horizon]

Wouldn't it be 25% CS for 1.5 RL?

[near plank]

doesnt the bug where units share charge speed still work?

[quick lake]

Yeah, technically 25% cs

[quick lake]

Nope. It was fixed/a myth

[swift mango]

Is Trina working with Sniper Rifle?

[near plank]

im 100% sure it was working before

[quick lake]

If they share CS, all my teams would be 1RL

[near plank]

but i guess it would be fixed

[wicked horizon]

Trying the question for like the 5th time. =y

[eager mountain]

0.5s faster then 0 cs team of same gen, not gonna b3 before they b2 in most cases anyway

[quick lake]

like ur 3rd SPA team? Generally just auto highest CP

[eager mountain]

trina t1 jackal t2 bis t3

[wicked horizon]

Surely I can do better by now.

[eager mountain]

all protected

[primal charm]

is helm b3 comp viable chat

[quick lake]

Can try some of these teams, maybe throw Trina in somewhere

[primal charm]

can she oneshot cindy without buffer

[covert lintel]

how can u reach 25% cs?

[graceful grotto]

2rl

[graceful grotto]

For who

[eager mountain]

toss all rocks in pvp and ignore rapi etc

[quick lake]

4 blue/black cs%OL with cs cube

[covert lintel]

iirc black cs only 6.09

[graceful grotto]

Where Trina?

[eager mountain]

max is 26, technically, rounded
tho thats 3 black line + 1 tier 14 line

[quick lake]

This cook was before Trina release

[wicked horizon]

I mean, my question's a bit more narrow - like, how does the 3rd team stay alive?

[eager mountain]

already answered

[covert lintel]

my rapipi not builded yet

[wicked horizon]

Where?

[covert lintel]

busy with Thelm and sbs

[eager mountain]

this

they can just rosa it but generally protected burst chain

[wicked horizon]

Not sure what that is, but that has Jackal in it.

[quick lake]

Yep definitely viable. Its a standard counter against Jackal linked units

[eager mountain]

trina pocket p1 scar, jackal dmg chain with p1, bis pocket defender p1, 3 teams there

used to have to run back up burst without trina

[wicked horizon]

You think Trina's gonna keep the team alive?

[covert lintel]

i'll still scarosjack when i get trina

[eager mountain]

keeping scar alive for 2 sec is enough, nukes

[quick lake]

Trina-Scar is mostly a glass cannon build. 2RL Nuke to OHKO. If u dont OHKO, team likely will die afterwards

[eager mountain]

if they noah it then they noah it not much u can do for defense

[wicked horizon]

Oh right, the 2s of invuln.

Hmmmmmmmmmm

[eager mountain]

ein isnt team wipe so

[quick lake]

With 2s invuln, and 2RL Scar burst, there's roughly 1.8 seconds window where scar recieves dmg

[eager mountain]

target 10 highest def not everything

[wicked horizon]

It takes 0.6s for a burst tier to activate?

[eager mountain]

well rl isnt second so

2rl without cs is longer then 2s

[swift mango]

They should have specified AR in Trina skill rather than just "Rifle"...

[quick lake]

from 0 burst bar to full burst bar = 1.23s * 2
from full bar to B3 = 1.16RL * 1.23s

[swift mango]

But it's not

[wicked horizon]

It isn't?
I thought that's how they counted it - 1s for a RL/Sniper shot, 0.5s for a Shotgun shot.

[quick lake]

1RL time is roughly 1.23s in real time

[pale knoll]

It was specified in patchnotes

[eager mountain]

thats simplfication and misleading if u want accurate frame data

[quick lake]

1RL =/= 1s in real time fyi

[wicked horizon]

Is it 1s in game time? =y

[shell hazel]

did Trina wind up being clip RL with good burst gen?

I'm just catching up a bit as was asleep when the banner landed

[quick lake]

1.23 seconds

[quick lake]

Yep! Slightly above Anis, 2nd only to THelm

[eager mountain]

2s invlun should be generally enough for scar to alive unless they running heavy snipes

[swift mango]

But not everyone read patch notes especially players that started after this patch.

[grim nymph]

Good evening Commanders, Ive put the arena on the back burner until I had unlocked a decent roster and I think I'm there. Is this a good space to ask?

[pale knoll]

Your fault for not reading, it was there

[wicked horizon]

Yeah, 2s should be enough for a 2RL team.

[quick lake]

Yep sure! Things might be abit messy cause ppl yapping about the new unit

[eager mountain]

with some cs, high sync, sr15 doll, no deficit would be safer

[tulip quest]

For 2 seconds at least

[eager mountain]

but honestly they can just go 4 elem iron sg to mess her up

not much u can do for def

[swift mango]

Even Keripo was discussing yesterday with others if Trine would buff Ein. Patch saying it buff AR, not saying she doesn't buff SR.

[eager mountain]

can run moran instead of rosa tho

[swift mango]

[quick lake]

Problem with Trina-Scar is really lack of survivability post-nuke

[swift mango]

Moran

What can kill that monster?

[tropic summit]

trina-scar is great on attack, but on def it just needs nuke resistant or 2RL indom to kill you afterward

[eager mountain]

p5 moran at least gets the hp buff

[wicked horizon]

Won't Moran steal the buff if she's ahead of Scarlet?

[swift mango]

P2-4

[shell hazel]

i'll gather my pulls and go for her after hard mode when I can get all the event tickets

[eager mountain]

not running jackel if u put moran

[quick lake]

Its not really a buff right? Cause it maxHP increase w/o actual heal

[tropic summit]

def remains screwed anyway

[swift mango]

Well, it's time for Moran solo.

[quick lake]

Yeah, Trina is rather broken. SSS easily

[tropic summit]

alrighty, you go do that

[eager mountain]

moran heals
max hp increase is pesudo heal, and thats how rouge full elec team survives in this sr

[swift mango]

Morna also need to be linked to stack her s1 def.

[tulip quest]

man shift up is brutal 5 pick me up then A meta PVP N PVE Unit WAAAA

[swift mango]

So 101010 Moran, 101010 Scarlet, 51010 Trina.

[shell hazel]

easy!

[tropic summit]

unlike collab units she's added to standard poll, you could get her later down the road if you really wanna skip

[wicked horizon]

But doesn't Rouge (sometimes) increase max HP while also increasing HP, unlike Trina?

[shell hazel]

i'll hope for a copy and wishlist later for MLB if I can

[quick lake]

Trina's maxHP buff doesnt heal Moran, and Moran s2 doesnt scale on Trina's buff

[grim nymph]

Thank you. I have no unique treasures unlocked and am still working on getting everyone equipment, I'm mostly looking for a 3 good squads for attack and defence I can invest in over time.

[tulip quest]

YA BUT Luck wise that is gotta learn that still no Ein until now

[umbral belfry]

Just tryna sniff out what the cooks are making in the kitchen

[tropic summit]

oh ye agreed, my rouge is in wishlist since 3+ months

[swift mango]

I still have 200 pulls to MLB her. But I will save for now and satisfied with a bad CP unit.

[shell hazel]

work on Helm treasure priority for pvp

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

scarlet tryna flex anis flexClip for glass cannon 2RL nuke

[eager mountain]

well yes but takes quite some stacking

[quick lake]

Scar Blanc RH Noir Jackal
Noah Centi Cindy Biscuit Liter
Auto

If u have spare gems available, the current Trina banner is nice to have 1 copy. And definitely work on getting T.Helm soon! These are defence teams
Attack teams are generally tailored to ur opponents teams.

For investments, initial 4OL on Biscuit, Centi, Rumani, Trina, Noah is the way to go

[covert lintel]

put trina there
and there u go 2rl anti indom

[eager mountain]

moran self heals would be turning that hp increase to sustain

[swift mango]

Or use Moran for post nuke solo.

[tropic summit]

le wild makima

[wicked horizon]

But Moran doesn't heal? Only increases her max HP.
Well, unless she bursts.

[tropic summit]

how do you stay 2RL with moran?

[shell hazel]

no one expects Makima!

[swift mango]

Better she burst than jackal burst

[eager mountain]

well, yes she will burst
no point running her otherwise

[swift mango]

3 clip RL + Scarlet is already 2rl.

[tropic summit]

you running that on attack or def?

[eager mountain]

so either 2rl scar trina with rosa or moran
noise also works
jackel will mess up rosa nuke, not best synergy when scar can live before burst with 2s invlun most cases, just that 2rl noah sustain will mess it up

[quick lake]

True, but heal is not that great even with Trina i think

[tropic summit]

safe to assume the 2RL scar-trina gonna need to live against 2RL noah and actually kill them post nuke

[wicked horizon]

Well, the healing does not depend on how much HP she has.

[quick lake]

Intend to test out some Moran Trina comps, but rookie opponents are shit

[swift mango]

Noise won't be solo after Scarlet nuke.

[wicked horizon]

But, how does Moran protect Scarlet exactly?

[tropic summit]

else she's as good as being moranless

[quick lake]

Taunts attack away from scar ig

[tropic summit]

if moran can kill 2RL noah counter now that'd make it interesting

[swift mango]

She taunt whole team and link heal.

[eager mountain]

id see high sync highly invested moran can live thru enemy indom in this setup
tho thats just an assumption

[grim nymph]

Thank you very much

[shell hazel]

scarlet / trina / moran in same team?

[wicked horizon]

Hmm, okay, fair enough.

[quick lake]

Moran attacking Invuln P1 doesnt heal, thats the prob imo

[shell hazel]

[eager mountain]

oh yeah, rip

[swift mango]

Moran can still solo.

[rose laurel]

does jackal's damage link remove rosanna's concealment buff?

[wicked horizon]

Well, thanks for the chat.
I've some ideas for what to switch around now.

[quick lake]

SR15 49% def Moran

[eager mountain]

[quick lake]

Full burst ended before heal available

[vapid lake]

U actually triied moran carry

[quick lake]

Equal speed Moran against Invuln P1, too tough

[eager mountain]

id still say putting jackel in trina scar is a bit of waste now

[lunar dirge]

Scar Trina centi helmt moran

[quick lake]

yeah agreed

[eager mountain]

scar team wont be perfect but at least t3 gonna be more functional with jackel

def is still screwed anyway

[swift mango]

She did solo the whole burst just you have no DMG to do anything to them.

[digital whale]

Is it good or not?

[quick lake]

Yeah might have worked if no Invuln maybe

[quick lake]

Dont even need RH if Trina s2 is lv10

[digital whale]

[eager mountain]

imma just rotate my 2rl def trina scar with rosa and noise and see
since my morans not built yet

tho with noise, can replace anis with la+
good for some post nuke sustain
moran gen prob not enough

[swift mango]

You could probably wipe every not-2rl stall team with it when you attack. In defend it loses to any 2rl team with Blanc or Noah.

[lunar dirge]

Trina makes this team kinda low invest now that it doesn't even requires jackal

Ig the tradeoff is worth it

[digital whale]

thank you kub

[swift mango]

No Jackal we could try adding SG and other dps I guess.

[lunar dirge]

Trina scar 1 clip rl and 1 SG tier burst gen= 2rl

[swift mango]

[lunar dirge]

Basically

It almost costs nothing

I can finally do ein blanc rh defence

[eager mountain]

rip nvm noise gen isnt enough to have la+, need jackel 1 feed

[swift mango]

Good luck with that.

[rich ledge]

so can we can have a cindy 2 rl and jackal 2 rl team now?

[quick lake]

Yes kinda

@swift mango @eager mountain @tropic summit
Scar Trina flex Biscuit Rumani (2RL)
During FB, Rumani taunts abit + Biscuit Invuln for more survivability

[graceful grotto]

I would put Trina in pos 4

U want her to survive, and Rh should not be there

[tropic summit]

3 points away

[shell hazel]

probably need more burst gen than Noise then

[quick lake]

That's the most "balanced" team I can think of

[rich ledge]

where does blanc go now?

[tropic summit]

what's the flex? SG burst gen tier doesn't seem to cut it for a tiny bit?

[graceful grotto]

T3 for me

Trina scar

Noah

Blanc biscuit

[eager mountain]

wasted bicuit there when rumani doesnt taunt whole team

[quick lake]

Yeah, has to be clipRL there ig

[tropic summit]

oh oki

[quick lake]

Glass cannon it is

[tropic summit]

that's 3 clip RL committing to it

[eager mountain]

yes, and other 2 can still be 2rl

[tropic summit]

what an economy

[eager mountain]

im thinking of scar trina clip clip noise or scar trina clip rosa clip

[tropic summit]

def is so screwed over, might aswell run 3 CP pad teams

[quick lake]

Hmm yeah, sounds about it

[umbral belfry]

How come jackal is out now?

[eager mountain]

noise should have enough sustain with b1 and p1p2 taunt
rosa for the snipe
still have isssues
alternatively, can simply not force p1 scar

[shell hazel]

you don't need as Trina invuln Scar

[graceful grotto]

Overkilled, might as well use jackal on T2

[shell hazel]

Jackal was there to keep Scar alive

[tropic summit]

2s invulnerable scar with trina

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

if 2RL, she has something like less than 1.89s to be hit by something

[swift mango]

We could have 2 x 2rl team and Jackal that could get to 2rl with feed with Trina and using SR Anis+Emi. If you invested in Emi 38% cs, you could even have 3 x 2rl team now.

[graceful grotto]

I ran

Scar tHelm Sanis Trina noise

[tropic summit]

realistically hard to kill scarlet even jackal-less, as long as on 2RL with trina

[graceful grotto]

Nuke + stall

[wicked horizon]

Won't 2s only block the first RL or Sniper shot?

[quick lake]

If I had Emi

[tropic summit]

relatable

[graceful grotto]

Wait u have no emi?

[quick lake]

Idk, feels like 2.5RL Biscuit + Cindy still wins

[graceful grotto]

Nani desuka

[quick lake]

No I do not 🧱

[tropic summit]

well p1 def p2 def p3 cindy might survive the nuke?

e.g.

centi rumani cind biscuit flex ?

[quick lake]

If u 2.5RL, ur B1 can burst so doesnt have to be proctected by Biscuit

[tropic summit]

oh so you could throw a noise in p1

then biscuit protects b2 and b3 (cindy)

then since no sustain or indom, bu-bye

[quick lake]

This will be my anti-2RL Trina team muahahaha

[shell hazel]

on attack? cindy p1 not great for def 😄

[quick lake]

Exactly, P1 Cindy hehehe

[tropic summit]

oh that's very tailored to that scenario

[raven plover]

trina not yet update on basti website?

[quick lake]

But more generally, I think 2.5RL Cindy Centi Biscuit Noise should work

[quick lake]

Makes opponent 1RL, so I can bypass Noah if she's there. Not tested ofc

[swift mango]

Yeah... Could block 2 RL if opponent invested in cs... And first 3-4 SG shots ofc...

[tropic summit]

having makima but not emilia sure feels strange

[wicked horizon]

So realistically it's like a 33% damage reduction if you're 2 RL?

[strong hull]

[swift mango]

Good luck

[quick lake]

ye, u're right

[swift mango]

Lemme tell you the big issue with this team. Scarlet gonna wipe Cindy and not trigger Biscuit.

[quick lake]

Possibly

[digital whale]

OK

[swift mango]

Trina needs to be core+ and SR15 so she could face taking wipe with Moran or Noise.

Our poor peeps 0lb, sr5 trina will just get wiped

[wicked horizon]

Out of curiosity, what arena group are you guys in? I'm just interested which way the numbers go, if any way.

[swift mango]

[rich ledge]

whats the link to this calculator?

[eager mountain]

hummm having new idea to recook my team
so ill have 2 diff def rotations ig

[tropic summit]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

#pvp-arena message

[graceful grotto]

Wdym what group?

Rank? Or?

[upper grove]

Trina worth pulling as expected

[tropic summit]

even if not using her specifically with scarlet, it's an extra clip RL

and unlike anis it's not lower stats

[upper grove]

I'm out of skill books again

No break since rapipi

[cedar orbit]

What is Trina's weapon?

Ah, Clip rl

[quick lake]

ClipRL, 14.4 burst gen/shot

[raven plover]

at least full overload 0000 111 can face tank rethut emi somehow

[tropic summit]

anis tier burst gen

[raven plover]

moran nero

[cedar orbit]

(Expected)

[tropic summit]

there's 13 days left if you're still unconvinced

[cedar orbit]

I got her in 1 pull, wasted 9 pulls

[tropic summit]

[quick lake]

plus minus 50 groups iirc, or 25

[cedar orbit]

Looks like a whale arena group

[wicked horizon]

What does that mean?

[cedar orbit]

[wicked horizon]

Like, the math doesn't super make sense.
My server divided by my arena group is 20.5, which would mean there's like 20 servers in each arena group?

But that's too many.
Maybe... There's more servers in the earlier groups, because more people have quit.

I'd say there's roughly only 10 servers in my arena group.

[hollow lagoon]

Seems to be the way?

[wicked horizon]

You lose most of Trina's buffs on Scarlet if she doesn't burst.

[hollow lagoon]

Trina’s burst only matter if enemies are not nikkes no?

[wicked horizon]

No, that's for the burst damage increase.

[quick lake]

94% buff still present even if she doesnt burst iirc

[wicked horizon]

Part of S2 also activates when using Burst, and there's a general attack damage buff in the burst as well.

[hollow lagoon]

Blanc burst more important, the 2 sec invuln pull nuff weight as is from her 2 skill

[wicked horizon]

Either the wording's bad, or it doesn't.

[worthy knoll]

She need to burst to get the attack damage buff

[quick lake]

Oh oops, my bad

[wicked horizon]

If they survive the burst. 🤷

[hollow lagoon]

They do in my bracket

[wicked horizon]

Maybe you'd do more damage to them if you burst with Trina. 😬
But, do as you like, you know your enemies better.

[hollow lagoon]

I could attempt a Trina burst

Let me test

[tropic summit]

who's the 2nd linked unit in this?

or you're not trying to get indom going?

[worthy knoll]

Blanc still wins if they also 2 RL since no protection for the Trina one while Blanc is one is indomed

[upper grove]

S1 is just nice to have, S2 and burst for maximising dmg huh?

[hollow lagoon]

?

What do u mean

[quick lake]

Primarily s2 i think

[wicked horizon]

Well, the goal, ideally, is that they're not alive after burst.

[tropic summit]

jackal links with the 2 highest atk% in the team

indom will go to the lowest HP in either the link or the team

[worthy knoll]

They burst at the same time

[tropic summit]

if you don't care about who gets indom that's fine, if you do you should know who's the linked units and the HP of the team on blanc B2

[worthy knoll]

The one with indom wins if that is the case

[hollow lagoon]

Indon always goes to scarlet because Trina’s passive

[tropic summit]

I assume you already tested it out then, all gud

[worthy knoll]

Coz B2 will be always first than B3

[hollow lagoon]

Yes 3 fights always scarlet

[worthy knoll]

So the Scarlet with Trina kills everyone except indom Scar.. while the Scarlet with Blanc will prolly kill most and even if not, they are still alive to clean the rest, no immune protection post burst means its just a matter of slashing/countering the rest

[hollow lagoon]

You are right, it does murder stuff better than using Blanc burst, since enemie biscuit/noah gets vaporized

That’s 2 team build options already

Blanc Indom and just redhood b1 for dmg kek

[wicked horizon]

I mean, you can always make a counter scenario.
Nuke never worked against invuln.

[upper grove]

Wtf is this, 130 pulls no trina but 1 RH, SW and Sbs each. And my sbs already max core

[tropic summit]

inverse luck

[quick lake]

pilgrim rate up

[wicked horizon]

Just regular luck

[upper grove]

Trina pilgrim banner

[hollow lagoon]

20pulls 2 Trina for me

[wicked horizon]

If I finally get RH from Trina's banner, I'll MLB Trina.

[hollow lagoon]

Honestly not sure which team I like better

[strange linden]

So I heard Trina is a clip RL, how's her burst gen?

[hollow lagoon]

I have no clue, but I seem to burst before typical Cinderella teams even with Blanc so I guess pretty good

By typical I mean this

[pale knoll]

2nd best gen, a bit more than jackal/anis

[strange linden]

Just wonder if it around anis' gen or Rumani

[strange linden]

HUH?

Man this is crazy

[hollow lagoon]

More than jackal?

[eager mountain]

ugh t3 still gonna have rosa issue no matter how to cook

[worthy knoll]

Well Def wise, Scarlet Trina can be countered by an Indom of same RL coz its all or nothing nuke, while a Scarlet Blanc will force players to use Noah coz a Mirror Blanc is too rng of indom vs indom.

For short.. As usual Attacking teams stocks have increased, Defending stocks has gone low.. well at least can make a def team now with Noah ClipRL Biscuit where the clip RL isn't a defender.. but its just her being a gen battery and her kit gone moot

[eager mountain]

more without feed, but realistically speaking there will be at least 1 feed for 2rl so nope

[strange linden]

Probably less with the feed but still this is damn good

[hollow lagoon]

Thx, I’m new to the PvP stuff, by feed you mean the scarlet’s regulate passive?

[eager mountain]

jackel gets 3.55% gen per 10 hits on her

[hollow lagoon]

Oh interesting

[eager mountain]

thats usually what feed means rather then scar feed

even tho feeding scar is also a thing but less significant

[hollow lagoon]

So people using taunt+ jackal is actually not good Eah

Unless jackal links to the taunt somehow

[eager mountain]

depends, usually wont have both

[jagged sedge]

@strange linden shes.1 sec slower than jackal and centi for me, but no upgrades. So probably same level as them

[solemn matrix]

Crazy how someone gets to Challenger 8-10 and then falls off a cliff.

[hollow lagoon]

Had a rival that I manage to beat then he straight up give up the game

[quick lake]

Sweaty

[solemn matrix]

In less than half an hour 😓 after maint

[strange linden]

Is there some footage with Scarlet+ trina
Wanna see how her 2sec invicibility works here

[hollow lagoon]

It’s just 2 sec immune letters

[quick lake]

Not scar, but moran immune

[strange linden]

The ultimate stall comp damn

[quick lake]

Just happened to snipe their B1 thats it hahaha

[strange linden]

I really have to spark her now..

[solemn matrix]

Do we have the cookie cutter 2RL teams x3 yet

[hollow lagoon]

What’s a spark

[solemn matrix]

200 golden ticket

[hollow lagoon]

Oh boi

[quick lake]

with SR Anis, possibly yea

[hollow lagoon]

Does CP matter in PvP?

[solemn matrix]

#pvp-arena message

[hollow lagoon]

Thx, so penalty exists

[quick lake]

Anything more than 15.4% deficit

[cedar orbit]

I am still salty when the opponent is 20 lvls up and their unit lives with 1 hp

[solemn matrix]

Do people actually try and punch the CP difference into the calculator to see the % difference or just ram it to see what happens 👀

[tropic summit]

that RH snipe

the deny is stronk

[raven plover]

I tried p1 scarlet 2RL against sbs redhood comp... she almost die during the burst sequence

[quick lake]

vid?

[raven plover]

didnt take it

[hollow lagoon]

Barely anyone run scarlet in my bracket

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

Most people in my bracket start around old tales so scarlet is rare commodity

[crystal flicker]

calc if the diff pretty big, ram if the diff pretty smoll

[hollow lagoon]

Which is good cuz I get to go around vaporizing people

[tropic summit]

ppl that are casual wouldn't, anyone that is actually trying will want to consider the CP issues

[strong hull]

So.

[crystal flicker]

how'd you get sync 295 tho

[strong hull]

CA gone nowhere

[tropic summit]

the leftover hope is near end of the month

[hollow lagoon]

Salary into NIKKE?

Being home owner with no debt has its benefits

[strong hull]

Nomore hope

Its over

CA 2026

[spiral onyx]

I think I've cooked up something interesting

[crystal flicker]

That explain the small cp despite sync 295

[hollow lagoon]

Ye, my non pve units are basically naked

[crystal flicker]

that's too bad

[spiral onyx]

Volume: +31.9% crit rate
Scarlet: +19.57% crit rate
Base: 15% crit rate

[strong hull]

Did it actually work?

I will try it then

[quick lake]

Could use Mast as well

[spiral onyx]

Total 66.47%
Crit OL lines is 2.30-7.07%
That brings you to 94.75%

[crystal flicker]

what ab MirandaT

[spiral onyx]

Miranda buffs cdmg not crit

[hollow lagoon]

Treasure guarantee crit for 1 hit?

[hollow apex]

Man I wish could watch you on twitch/youtube keripo

[spiral onyx]

Scarlet 's nuke doesn't count as a shot

[crystal flicker]

oh

[hollow lagoon]

Didn’t know

Learn something new everyday

[spiral onyx]

I don't think you want to lol. I tried streaming in the past, turns out I'm a very boring streamer cause I, you know, actually play games and lock in and ignore chat

[quick lake]

Can swap out Blanc for Mast for >100% crit rate

[spiral onyx]

Blanc's there for actual team comp integrity lol

If I'm going to swap a B2, I would burst instead with Trina

[strange linden]

Honestly I feel like this might be a unit for champion arena
I don't think she'll change SP arena that much

[crystal flicker]

so cr better than hitr for her ye

[hollow apex]

Brother I watch sky edit his videos on stream can't get worse lmao

[hollow lagoon]

I watch sky take a business call mid stream recently

[spiral onyx]

I've stopped cooking for SP Arena over a year ago lol

[spiral onyx]

Here, 3 hr speed run of FGO NA launch lol
https://twitch.tv/videos/157870807

[hollow apex]

I zoomed around your stream not a single deadzone of silence 👌

[tropic summit]

make multiple nikke account, stream daily pvp

nah too much effort probably, not worth

[rich ledge]

so trina has burst gen equivalent to which RL we have currently?

[quick lake]

sr Anis

[spiral onyx]

Between work, wife, kid, being the guild leader for the rank 1 guild in Nikke in NA, guild leader for the rank 1 guild in Cat Fantasy on my server, and an officer for the rank 2 guild in Throne & Liberty on my server... I pretty much have zero free time left lol

[tropic summit]

remember to breath sometimes keripo

[rich ledge]

so i can do this then

[spiral onyx]

Properly streaming is also pretty much a full time secondary job. I've seen the amount of effort that goes behind the videos/streams that Tim does

[lunar dirge]

@swift mango scary team for ye

[lunar dirge]

Assume Trina instead of jackal

[bleak latch]

will this fast enough to out run noah shield?

[quick lake]

No 2RL team can out run Noah shield

[bleak latch]

[rich ledge]

i dont have noah 😦

[bleak latch]

i found one dude w/o noah so i took the chance

[vapid lake]

maybe if u somehow manage to make a 1.5RL team can out run noah

[quick lake]

Maybe we have a ClipClipSG

[bleak latch]

but what if rosana removed enemy jackal link will it slowed enough to out run noah?

[quick lake]

If the opponent is relying on jackal feed to make 2RL, then that should be possible. But 2RL Nuke vs 2RL Noah not possible

[lunar pawn]

So how's trina so far?

[vapid lake]

Pvp meta

[lunar pawn]

Burst gen same as sr anis?

[covert lintel]

my rosanna can kill noah before she immune

[lunar pawn]

Nice

[swift mango]

Now single pull until you get another SSR so you waste no pull.

100 pulls later

[swift mango]

How about helmT being ClipflipclipclipclipflipclipSR?

[swift mango]

Assumed enemies doesn't have 1.8rl Noah.

[rich ledge]

assuming anis is trina, this team can block nuke? biscuit will invuln jackal and cindy, and jackal link will also invuln cindy and helm once jackal is invulned by biscuit

[swift mango]

If the nuke is strong enough, no.

[lunar pawn]

Jackal link will work on helm and biscuit

Would be weird if a defender had higher attack than a support

[rich ledge]

haha cindy invested biscuit not invested

[rich ledge]

but once the invuln is triggered the nuke can go through?

[lunar pawn]

Just check your attack before

[swift mango]

Either Trina or Biscuit need to face tank the nuke so you can burst. That's not to mention Cindy need to face tank the nuke too if not linked.

[tropic summit]

decoy doesn't save you from scarlet s2 and nuke dmg

[rich ledge]

well its already 2 RL

[tropic summit]

example of bad RNG on counters against scarlet, cindy barely makes it

and that wasn't a buffed nuke

[crystal flicker]

what about Scarlet Stall Team

[graceful grotto]

Omg what the hell

That's a kamikaze from Cindy there

[graceful grotto]

I see some use

Noah Noise scar rapu jackal for stall team

[crystal flicker]

I think to make use of Trina's 20s burst

maybe too far coz 1 cycle usually enough for Nuke

[swift mango]

Stall teams in attacking often make use of Red hood 1-2-3 burst so the other 4 slots can be dedicated to tanking the first burst cycle.

[tropic summit]

either that or a B2 that has 20s cooldown, like nero

that way you only need to worry for 2 B3 and B1, noise and rapunzel generally cover B1

keep in mind stall teams are extremely cost expensive

[crystal flicker]

this might work

[tropic summit]

you better know what you doing else bye bye to a ton of resources

[grand plaza]

Quick question about Biscuit, lets say I put Blanc and Biscuit, Blanc went down to %50 hp and proc invincibility, and healed a bit.

After 5 seconds it will just proc again?

[swift mango]

You could use it too but B1 red is just superior

[lunar pawn]

if she goes below 50% hp again and no other defender goes below 50% by then, yea

[left nest]

Hi y'all. I got a couple questions to just try to understand some quirks with PVP.

• Does doing Quick Battle in PVP change the chances/calculations in anyway?
• Considering SP Arena, and I'm challenging a team, is there any chance that attempting twice the same challenge against the same team, with the same team, for the outcome to be different? Or will it always be exactly the same?

[grand plaza]

Thats really good, thanks

[grand plaza]

1- I don't know, but would like to learn as well tbh

2- yes if the results are very close in the first place. There is always some RNG like crit, some hero specific rng like Cind burst, and some more pvp-spesific things like rocket whiffing

[lunar dirge]

1.no 2.it can depend

[graceful grotto]

Quick battle is just skip button, no change in chance/cal

[graceful grotto]

Yes on point 2, it depends on the team you're attacking

For example, if scarlet is there, counter proc is RNG

[white zephyr]

How fast trina?

[graceful grotto]

Second highest behind thelm

[raven plover]

good

[white zephyr]

Ddaaaaaaaayuuuuuummmm

[tropic summit]

anis SR tier

[graceful grotto]

There's also crit involve, if sometimes crit happen, then you will see diff result

[tropic summit]

-quick or not, result is the same, just whether you actively watch it or not
-yes it can, especially if narrow difference determined by crit

[left nest]

Thanks for the answers y'all!

[pale knoll]

Cindy 2rl vs blanc 3rl enough for blanc to indom? Can't remember right now

[grand plaza]

Out of topic but your pfp is your family in one piece universe?

[tropic summit]

it's RNG depending if blanc is hit first and damage from first part of nuke is lethal or not

if not lethal, she'll definitely have enough time to cast B2

either way you generally don't wanna gamble with cindy against blanc

prefer 2RL scarlet over that

[left nest]

Yes! It's me with Buggy's clothing, my son with Luffy's, daughter with Chopper's and wife with Nami's.

[quick lake]

Should be enough imo

[grand plaza]

Man thats so freaking sweet

I love it ❤️

Wishing the similar future for myself :D

[tropic summit]

from personal experience, although it was 13-14% deficit, blanc may live first hit even if hit first

[pale knoll]

This was the team in question on my noahless acc

[tropic summit]

wouldn't risk it, 403+ synch could be someone having emi on 21% CS

your B3 hits when opponent is on B1, if blanc isn't dead within that tiny frame, she casts

[pale knoll]

With trina I guess I could go for a 2rl where scarlet survives

[lunar dirge]

🫵

[tropic summit]

unprotected blanc in p1 is a safe choice to be dealt with any 2RL or 2.5RL scarlet

[pale knoll]

Yh I'll do that then

[quick lake]

Oh yes, I meant I think the 3RL Blanc would win

[pale knoll]

[lunar dirge]

🫵 🫃

[pale knoll]

[tropic summit]

[mossy frigate]

trina slvl?

[tulip holly]

@tropic summit hoy ! got trina , how to adapt my teams to fit her ?

[tropic summit]

you asking Havel to impregante you i see

[pale knoll]

He loves me so much, we've know each other for 1.5 years

[lunar dirge]

This you?

[pale knoll]

I always say I don't swing that way tho

[tropic summit]

could make T1 feedless by removing pepper for trina

trina centi cind helm noise

or remove blanc and rh from scarlet team to go for glass cannon 2RL scarlet, although i find it less useful than the indom variant

[lunar dirge]

"20$"

[pale knoll]

[tropic summit]

oh wow you guys go back a lot

didn't know there was such a history already

@lunar dirge you're old

[pale knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-smoking-sadge-pepe-smoking-pepe-sadge-gif-16948267171533269841

[tulip holly]

🤔

[lunar dirge]

I'm only 20 and you know it

[pale knoll]

Pushing 40s tch tch

[tropic summit]

yeah an older person wouldn't do so well after not sleeping 2-3 days in a row afterall

plus you going to uni, probably not an older lad

[lunar dirge]

I sent a proof to Aki already, ask him

[pale knoll]

[tropic summit]

do we really wanna see your d pics?

[pale knoll]

Easy peasy

Love trina

[tropic summit]

easy mode attack team

[lunar dirge]

Said proof was date of birthbpart on my passport

[tropic summit]

actually more realistic than i thought

hell i might've actually seen it too now that i think about it

[pale knoll]

Russian passport

[tropic summit]

he's a fake russian

has too much of a brain to be one

[pale knoll]

[lunar dirge]

you fu-

[tropic summit]

am I wrong tho

[lunar dirge]

I'll make you into one if you think like that

[tropic summit]

then again my experiences are skewed by the average CS:GO russian player

[pale knoll]

It do be like that

[lunar dirge]

Ppl who play in cs are divided into 2-3 groups:40 year old bear chugging monster, teens who are pretty good and with extremely high ego and just kids

[pale knoll]

@tropic summit time to cook me some spa def noahless teams

[tropic summit]

just get noah already, make the miracle happen

even @swift mango found her after more than a year

[digital whale]

[pale knoll]

here you go

[quick lake]

Blood got noah?? @swift mango

[tropic summit]

albeit he initially refused to use her

[lunar dirge]

That's racist

[signal hull]

Any info on Trina's burst gen yet?

[quick lake]

sr anis burst gen

[signal hull]

That good? 😮

[quick lake]

yeah!

[signal hull]

Taking. Right now.

[covert lintel]

last slot makima

[signal hull]

What the hell, got 2x Jackals in 10 pull...

[mossy frigate]

its literally impossible for me to hit any of these guys is it

[graceful grotto]

I mean

There's 💰💰💵 wallet-kun

[mossy frigate]

ill waste 100 gem to peak their teams

yea so i wasted 100 gem

[shell hazel]

speaking of wasting gems, some dude hit me on rookie arena 7 times yesterday so maybe they were gemming, weirdo 😄

[swift mango]

I got her from normal pull last Collab.

[quick lake]

Belated congrats. no longer bricked

[digital whale]

why makima

[swift mango]

Doesn't need HelmT at this point. Centi would still 2rl.

[digital whale]

[digital whale]

me Don't know how to organize a team

[digital whale]

[swift mango]

Now that I think about it, I got her on Feb 21th, first day of Asuka banner. I started around Feb 29th-March 1st last year. So a bit less than a year.

(Last day of Ade banner, Idk if I spent 1 day to reroll up to that day or it was the first day I started reroll)

[quick lake]

My Noah took 2 full years

Elusive gremlin

[lunar pawn]

2 multis and no trina

I don't wanna mileage her

[swift mango]

That's hard... But I'm still Rapu-less.

[quick lake]

Rapu not that impt

[shell hazel]

I'm waiting until hard mode and the tickets in the shop so I can max my odds of not getting screwed by luck 😄

[swift mango]

Did you need to pull for 5 units last Collab?

[shell hazel]

yep

a bit painful haha, I almost hope we don't get more re-runs as the sheer banner count is harsh

SU didn't even put 15 tickets in the store like they sometimes do

[swift mango]

I only pull for Arena and Collab now so it's many pulls saved.

[shell hazel]

will mileage upcoming Siren anyway, if she's good I'll try and mileage to MLB

my ReiT only 1 copy in the end

[swift mango]

Yeah, OLB Rapu probably isn't tanky enough anyway.

[shell hazel]

I have about 50-60 pulls I guess, maybe 70-80 by the time the hard mode comes out and I can clean out the event shop.
Hopefully enough for a pull of a single copy of Trina

[covert lintel]

whaler flexing

[lunar dirge]

No c7=no flex

[covert lintel]

tix her

[lunar dirge]

[graceful grotto]

i would put helmT on pos 2

since jackal linked 2 highest dps (i assume thelm is the second highest here if scar is the highest)

also u give more survivability to trina

[lime night]

Does anyone know whats the best team to build with trina for PVP?

for Sp arena i just replaced blanc with her instead, not sure if thats the best usage

[graceful grotto]

scarlet-trina

then try to slot in fast burst gen to make it 2RL

[lime night]

from what i saw on a video earlier

[lunar dirge]

Looks like overkill with well invested trina

[lime night]

definitely not planning to max/ high invest her atm, too many units to upgrade

probably keeping her 4/4/4 for a while

[lunar dirge]

S2 to lvl10 is enough

To be on par with blanc rh buff wise for scar

[quick lake]

1/10/1-4 for pvp trina

[lime night]

won't have the books to invest lvl 10, still need to finish off mast/anchor for unionraid, shes probably still usable at 4/4/4?

[quick lake]

Just use as typical clipRL ig

[sleek root]

Which part of that is a whale?

[lime night]

My current Sp arena build with trina, i'd appreciate any advice (the only thing i dont have is treasure laplace)

[quick lake]

Pretty decent defence!

[swift mango]

Moran solo... Moran+Trina+Crown+HelmT+Flex

[cedar orbit]

No one has 3 slots for tempered

[swift mango]

We really need caster's ATK b3 buffer just to bump up Moran....

[covert lintel]

https://streamable.com/raddh8
real moran solo
2minutes just to watch her solo

[lunar pawn]

Blanc with cindy feels weird, don't count on her indom triggering on her

[swift mango]

About Everyone with lv4 tempering cube. That's easy to get just from SR....

[cedar orbit]

Whale only

[swift mango]

Lv441+ player without tempering lv4 is just ridiculous.

Whaling have nothing to do with cube.

[lime night]

i ignore the cubes and basically only put resillience for cp/quantum the video is from some JP PVP specialist

[sleek root]

https://tenor.com/view/thick-john-oliver-last-week-tonight-meme-thicc-gif-16730073

[quick lake]

Can consider this I guess

[lime night]

ill give that a consideration as well, where should i put trina and how can i replace laplace though?

[swift mango]

Moran randomly targets Skip to RH when Blanc still had ammo. Then casually target skip back to Emi. It's either some mod hack or a bug that should be fixed by now.

Totally not doable normally.

[lime night]

Trina/B soda over anis and Laplace maybe?

[quick lake]

Anis in the picture is Trina. Laplace can be any clipSG

[graceful grotto]

why defense cube on scar?

[cedar orbit]

Those teams have no Biscuit

[quick lake]

Tempering on scar for more tankiness