pvp-arena

[junior briar]

Rose doesnt get buffed by trina

[tropic summit]

Elaborate

[sleek root]

Ahh! Rifle! i forgot!

[eager mountain]

ones 3rl with 2 buffer one is easily 2rl

u know that non of the major nuke buffer have gen

[shell hazel]

moran def team with trina maybe?

[quick lake]

Trina recover 3.57% per full charged (when less than 30% HP). Noise Max HP + 50%, Trina Max HP + 20%.

It means you heal effectively 5.95% HP per full charge. Quiry heals 6.9% /s

[eager mountain]

but trina replaces 2 buffers and have more gen the 2 buffers

[tropic summit]

Ye but against Trina you only need a noah on 2RL, against indom a stall or biscuit, more expensive to deal with

[eager mountain]

2 sec invlun deosnt need to perfrom better then indom for trina scar to be op

[shell hazel]

for the glory of nikkekind

[eager mountain]

waste 2rl noah is more then enough
just rosa them anyway
the goal is to make it tricker to rosa it

[junior briar]

Isnt it hard to make scarlet indom with trina on the team

With that 2s invulnerable

[quick lake]

2RL Scarlet Trina
2RL ReiT - Jack
new SPA meta

[sleek root]

It said "Rifles" Does this means Sniper Rifles too?

[eager mountain]

no point doing that since its wasting most trina buffs

trina scar snyergy is too good by design

[junior briar]

Pretty sure it only buff AR

[eager mountain]

use her as battery just a waste

[quick lake]

Probably need to check KR/JP translation. EN translation sucks

[junior briar]

she still give 95% atk damage and reload speed and HP% without bursting

[sleek root]

Ah ok, prob miss translation

[tropic summit]

uh i guess that makes sense 🤔

[eager mountain]

95 atk dmg only when her bursting

theres just no real reason to waste trina somewhere else

[shell hazel]

she'd have good potential future value for upcoming units if they match the type she buffs as well

[eager mountain]

unless u cook a moran trina team

[junior briar]

Mb, it's upon using burst

[sleek root]

Yea, she'll be in whatever comp Drunk Scarlet is tbh

[tropic summit]

considering the heals, a moran trina team is realistic for possible stalling

[shell hazel]

moran, trina, helm, mana, rapunzel

https://tenor.com/view/ousama-ranking-hiling-healing-anime-gif-24926110

[quick lake]

How would MaxHP up interact with HP up without increasing HP

[eager mountain]

its likely quite viable if key units can live a nuke

[tropic summit]

trina still classed as non clip RL on burst gen sheets

[quick lake]

Trina was supposed to be B1 Wind Defender. Now she's B2 Electric Supporter

[tropic summit]

how does noise + trina + helmT + rapu + flex sound like

facetank nuke team let's go

[eager mountain]

both are percentage based

[quick lake]

But does Moran's maxHP up scale on Trina's maxHP up

[leaden canyon]

That still just dies to a nuke though

[shell hazel]

think you'd want moran there if you got trina

[eager mountain]

i donno

[tropic summit]

yeah damage reduction probably would stack better, only need one nikke to raise max HP

[quick lake]

Pull Trina then

[shell hazel]

so you could moran, trina, helmt, rapunzel, noise?

[eager mountain]

pretty much any non noah stall just weak to buffed cindy nuke
thats why i havent done one for def yet

[quick lake]

Probably wont need noise

[junior briar]

Act upon base HP

[quick lake]

Oh damn

[tropic summit]

moran tryna helmt rapu laplace is 2RL most likely

[leaden canyon]

Maybe noise trina cindy battery battery

[tropic summit]

so many possibiities to test

[quick lake]

Might lose to 2RL Scar Trina tbh

[tropic summit]

the point is you can get 2 teams on 2RL, you won't obviously run that team against 2RL scarlet on attack

[leaden canyon]

Ah the invul only goes onto AR though

Honestly either a moran or scarlet team then

[tropic summit]

with the amount of batteries available now, imagine making a working defense not relying on CP...

SP arena era is screwed, but makes CA more interesting

[quick lake]

Defence never gonna work anymore

[eager mountain]

it barely works since omega battery helm to me

[tropic summit]

yeah that was a huge hit to defenses already

adding more clip RL is just nailing the coffin for defs

plus you could now use jackal elsewhere with this 2RL ultra buffed scarlet haha

def teams inverse stonks

[eager mountain]

saves a lot of resource from scar team
and likely now we can have 3*2rl teams that are all good

[quick lake]

P1 Moran tank becomes a DPS

[eager mountain]

likely gonna emi jackel

[shell hazel]

lots of possibilities at least

[eager mountain]

then they can only rosa against emi jackel or rosa against trina scar

[shell hazel]

think I will burn 200 mileage on asuka W so I have some pulls for Trina or I could run out of pulls and have neither 😄

[tropic summit]

good god they killed def on sp arena if x3 *2RL teams

[hollow summit]

problem of emi is

meta PvP mainly electric

[shell hazel]

Soldier EG becomes pvp meta

[tropic summit]

sin treasure next

[radiant storm]

Is Scar, X. Anne, Trina, Anis Sr, Jackal

Or

Scar, Blanc, Trina, Anis Sr, Jackal better option?

Changed Rh for other team

[quick lake]

Just in time to release CA I guess

[eager mountain]

ye, pretty intentional, also pretty much why la+ is good

[swift mango]

New PvP meta is here... Scarlet come back to claim her spot 1 as burst 3 nuke...

[quick lake]

Trina B2, doubt u will run both Blanc and Trina tgt

[quick lake]

Yeah, broken af

[swift mango]

No need for Jackal now.

[quick lake]

If she's really clipRL, then yeah. No need jackal

[swift mango]

Just Cindy RL would do...

[tropic summit]

maybe someone saw my meme yesterday... few hours later this trina happens

[quick lake]

Biscuit level burst gen is all Im asking

[radiant storm]

Hmmm,

Scar, Trina, Rh, Anis Sr, Jackal it is then

[eager mountain]

trina does double buffs u dont need rh

[quick lake]

I dont even think u need a RH as 2nd buffer. Just:
Scar Trina flex flex flex

[hollow summit]

rossana as b1

[eager mountain]

2rl scar is so ez when trina replaces 2 buffer while also clip rl gen

[swift mango]

Her buff is 3 times that of Crown B3, won't that be triple buff?

[hollow summit]

scarlet-trina-rossana-flex-flex

[radiant storm]

Just safety precaution to one shot Rh on Scar opposite team

[quick lake]

Possibly if the opponent is running Noise/Moran. But even then I still think its a OHKO

[eager mountain]

triple or double just that now one trina is enough

[radiant storm]

Scar, X. Anne, Rh, Anis Sr, Jackal is his team imo

[tropic summit]

new standard to hit for def teams: 2RL anti nuke or be dead regardless

[eager mountain]

[wicked horizon]

Hmm, how does the invulnerability interact with Scarlet's passive retaliation?

[quick lake]

Are u referring to a specific enemy comp? or just general teams

[quick lake]

Yeahhh, that's abit iffy as well

[radiant storm]

Opposite Scar comp, its general comp for Scar I think

[radiant storm]

This comp

[eager mountain]

technically immuning dmg is still taking hits just that dmg part is nullified

[quick lake]

Then likely it would now just be:
Scar Trina flex flex flex

[eager mountain]

id guess it wont mess up scar s2

[swift mango]

2.5RL Rossanna could still snipe.

[wicked horizon]

Because I'd still use Jackal, just to keep retaliating against everyone.

[quick lake]

That general team would work, yes. Double buffed Scar Jack very typical set up

[covert lintel]

moran or scar can get the buff

[swift mango]

Easy, still have Red hood, Blanc, and rapu

Shiftup must be hating at Scarlet+Blanc+Rapu without Jackal team people have been doing on higher level bracket recently.

[upper grove]

So trina is basically drunk scarlet treasure as a unit

[quick lake]

https://x.com/niminist123/status/1899385802658074662

필그림향우회/PilgrimCommunity (@niminist123) on X

어머니

X · Mar 11, 2025, 9:03 AM

[covert lintel]

how was trina burst gen?

[eager mountain]

clip rl

[upper grove]

Clip

Now we can use blanc somewhere else

[swift mango]

Like ReiT somewhere

[upper grove]

I just gave blanc sr5 4 OL I want to use her

[radiant storm]

Not seen this yet

Just the typical Scar, X. Anne, Rh, Laplace, Jackal

[wicked horizon]

What's the point of invuln. when you nuke anyways. 🤔

[swift mango]

I have seen few lv501+ people using this because Rapu at higher level with max investment and core is very tanky.

[radiant storm]

Can 2-3 Shot Pos 1 Scar 😒

[upper grove]

Need some calcs if Trina is enough as solo buffer for scarlet

[quick lake]

Should be enough

[eager mountain]

its enough even for high sync

[swift mango]

Not be sniped by SG or LapT before she burst? And remove the need for Jackal to survive?

[covert lintel]

how can 94atk and other buff not enough

[upper grove]

RH blanc free to buff other teams

[covert lintel]

[wicked horizon]

No I mean like what Blanc or Noah gives.

[upper grove]

Idk, just wanted to be sure opponent is mega dead

[sleek root]

total 114% atk dmg buff, enough

[swift mango]

If you don't know then your don't know.

[quick lake]

Oh wow, its slightly more than Blanc + RH buff

[swift mango]

My plan on building Miranda is coming to another Halt...

[quick lake]

Better stop early, then stop mid-way

[covert lintel]

that buff "all enemies" is just for pve right?

[swift mango]

She is sr5 already so mid way.

[quick lake]

pvp too. AOE Nuker is buffed

[quick lake]

Still valid Emilia buffer

[tropic summit]

are you kidding me

frees up blanc AND RH while retaining same dmg

[radiant storm]

Scar, Trina, Maiden Alt, Anis Sr, Jackal

Noise, Noah, Biscuit, S. Anis, Rapu

Blanc, Emilia, Rh, Biscuit, Centi

[quick lake]

Truly Scar-Trina meta is here

[swift mango]

Well, Blanc is still counter max doll and tempering... So against max doll and tempering lv7+ peeps the math would favour her more.

This math is likely on 0% Dr.

[tropic summit]

if lethal, it doesn't matter if it's 100% or 75%

just enough to be a problem

[swift mango]

Well, I mean Blanc+RH would still buff more in that case.

[bleak latch]

im curios about trina burst gen

[covert lintel]

but the wording indicate we need 1 or 2 rapture to active the buff

[upper grove]

Do when attacked skills still proc when units are invulnerable?

[swift mango]

Yes

[swift mango]

Yeah, that non-nikke enemies part is likely for PvE. That mean we gonna have B2 or 3 Electric AR Pilgrim next...

[quick lake]

@tropic summit initial math

[swift mango]

What chart are you using?

[valid fern]

probably normal RL. doesnt make sense for a clip RL to have 2.52s reload time. but who knows, could be a first case lol.

[quick lake]

Gatrix pvp calc. There's a nuke calc sheet

[upper grove]

More electric definitely necessary

[wicked horizon]

It's literally just to make Scarlet viable against bosses and stronger against everything else.

[upper grove]

I assume that the burst buff part is mainly for pve but who knows, let's wait for patch

[tropic summit]

yeah it's still lethal,

[upper grove]

We all gonna pull her regardless

[wicked horizon]

She got enough PvP specific kit pieces imo.

[upper grove]

No breaks

[swift mango]

Was hoping it would be a skip.

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[covert lintel]

tix her

[swift mango]

Is she seriously a Clip RL unit? That's a wee bit OP there...

[tropic summit]

clip RL from video

[wicked horizon]

What's the difference between a clip and not-clip RL?

[upper grove]

Burst gen

[wicked horizon]

Well, yes, but... That's not the... That's not what I'm asking.

[upper grove]

2% though with half anni soon

[tropic summit]

essentially twice if not more burst gen

[wicked horizon]

why is it more burst gen

And don't tell me "because it's clip RL", because that's circular logic.

[upper grove]

Ask shift up

[swift mango]

Not really telling much from the SS...

If any, she reloads her gun with her own milk.

[tropic summit]

she reloads bomb/missile/clip per clip

typical for clip RLs

[upper grove]

You can fast shoot both but SU decided clip gens more burst

[tropic summit]

imagine ppl actually watch the video tho

[upper grove]

I remember using Centi in campaign

[swift mango]

We normally need to see the 3 gauge filled one after another when she reloads.

[quick lake]

Didnt SAnis looked Clip, but turned out normal SG

[tropic summit]

shoots 2 rockets, reloads 2 rockets, you can't be more dense

if this still doesn't show it, then santa maybe is real

[wicked horizon]

I hate to break it to you, but she shot 3 rockets, you cut out the first one.

[tropic summit]

my god you guys must be funny at parties

[quick lake]

Yeah... looks kinda clipRL

[tropic summit]

yeah SU isn't particularly consistant in these things anyway

[quick lake]

Can possibly last second nerf. So probably dont hope too much

[covert lintel]

though 2b will not get trina's s2 buff, her burst will still crazy buffed against bosses/pve

[tropic summit]

"oh we realized scarlet maybe was already strong as is... we did an oopsie, tehe, she's not clip RL and her buff is now shiet."

[wicked horizon]

Mans literally spreading misinformation and I'm the one getting reprimanded.

[swift mango]

Let her buff all Elec code instead so Cindy can finally one shot every of her hit.

[tropic summit]

the video is from the official twitter

[swift mango]

And peep using Cindy p1 won't be called noobs anymore.

[wicked horizon]

You cut the video.

[tropic summit]

then watch it yourself

https://x.com/i/status/1899375001121517573

GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE (@NIKKE_en) on X

【NIKKE Motion Demonstration and Skill Introduction】

#NIKKE #Trina

Trina uses RL: Mother Nature.

Trina is a supporter who specializes in healing allies with low HP. With her Burst Skill, she enhances her allies' attacking capabilities, particularly strengthening the abilities

X · Mar 11, 2025, 8:21 AM

i cut the video because it needs 2 seconds of your attention span

[wicked horizon]

That's not even the right post!

And you cutting the video changed the context of the video.

[tropic summit]

oh ok i understand why i had blocked you before

[loud sonnet]

[tropic summit]

this guy is just a troll

[pale knoll]

[tropic summit]

back to the block cave

[wicked horizon]

My guy, you literally wrote something that was only correct on the cut part of the video, not on the whole video.

[swift mango]

So supporter burst 2, not defender B1 anymore...m

[loud sonnet]

I just came here to check

[wicked horizon]

This is the video:
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1899367873417768960/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/OaJg72hxbEdAd7h-.mp4

Man can not take being called out on his BS.

[upper grove]

She is still reloading clips seperately instead of 1 full reload

Doesn't matter how many shots she fired

[tropic summit]

not only you try to help them and make it easier for them to undestand but they'd dare argue back

now let's wait and see the official release as anything can change anyway

[wicked horizon]

If you cut out the last reload, you could also say she shot 2 rockets, reloaded only 1.

[lunar pawn]

Ok so trina pvp meta, will have to get her

[quick lake]

https://x.com/NIKKE_japan/status/1899370134281552315/video/1
JP Vid is much clearer imo. Shows the fire 2 rockets then reload. Twice

[tropic summit]

if the info we got is confirmed sure better to

[lunar pawn]

114% atk damage buff, scarlet gonna cook with her alone

[quick lake]

All subject to SU nerfing of course

[upper grove]

Make drunklet great again

[swift mango]

Santa is real.

[wicked horizon]

Is this some elaborate joke or are y'all failing at counting to 3.
It's the same video, and she still fires 3 rockets three times...

[lunar pawn]

So she might be a clip rl too?

[upper grove]

Most likely

Reloading animation is like other clip RL

[tropic summit]

if you take the right mushrooms or smoke the right things probably

[quick lake]

Im referring to the union range testing part where they shoot the mobs

In EN video, they shot 3 times at the union range testing place
In JP vid, they shot 2 times, reload, then shot 2 times, then reload

[swift mango]

I got a gift from him last year. I'm 5.

[quick lake]

I mean its all speculation for now, we still dont know anything

[tropic summit]

you sure type pretty well for being 5

[quick lake]

Oh yeah, Trina's nuke is probably definitely even bigger. I didnt take into account the increased Burst Dmg

[covert lintel]

it's clear that was clip rl
if not, then SU nerfed it

[swift mango]

What duw chuw meawe, Imma genius.

[upper grove]

Can't wait for patch

[tropic summit]

2 days to go

[upper grove]

Using blanc RH jackal elsewhere is so tempting

[tropic summit]

sit tight and brace yourself for whatever this pandora box will be

[upper grove]

Or maybe still stick her with jackal for the S2 synergy?

[wicked horizon]

I'm probably keeping Jackal, not Blanc though.

[lunar pawn]

I think trina alone will put the fear of God on the enemy

[graceful grotto]

Looks like Blanc is out for scarlet lol

[quick lake]

Not sure about the wording for s3. If we're fighting Nikkes, mean we get both 435%+65% buff?

[swift mango]

Just in time, as ReiT desperately needs Blanc to be viable against half ass Sakura anyway

[wicked horizon]

As per the wording, we get neither.

It's neither exactly 1 enemy nor more than 2 (nor more than 1).

[valid fern]

Ok I am leaning towards Trina being clip RL now. The listed reload time basically means nothing since I was looking at nikkegg's times and they are not the same as the in-game listed values.

[wicked horizon]

It's 0, and there's no buff against 0 enemies.

[worthy knoll]

0 enemies = nothing activates on that part

[quick lake]

[graceful grotto]

Honestly she might even make og scar PvE viable now lmao

Just need a cdr to match with her

[swift mango]

Just need to add notice, "Cover is counted as 1 enemy."

What about decoy thou? Would it be counted as Non-nikke enemy?

That would make Cindy even more nerfed.

[wicked horizon]

I have my doubts. Probably would be fixed if it did.

[worthy knoll]

"specifically made burst for Cindy"

[quick lake]

Man, idk. Engrish not clear

Just gonna wait for her release

[swift mango]

Shift-Up probably, "Cindy was our mistake, we didn't intend for her to be meta in Arena, let's nerf her overtime".

[lunar pawn]

So gotta wait to test if cindy decoy counts as a non nikke enemy I guess

[junior briar]

Cope

[harsh arch]

The big question Trina+Scarlet vs Noah+Scarlet and Blanc+Scarlet

[lunar pawn]

The big question is if jackal is kept with scarlet

[harsh arch]

I bring team example Noah+Scarlet+ Biscuit+THelm+ Jackal

[drifting hazel]

Wow they just pulled the biggest SIKE in PvP

[drifting hazel]

Let’s hope her standard burst gen is high then 😂

[lunar pawn]

Unbuffed scarlet

[graceful grotto]

She's a healer b2 so that itself is already a win

We prolly getting og scarlet costume soon kewk

[drifting hazel]

Maybe

It’s a little late but I’ll get it anyways

Bro I lost my 30+ defensive win streak

[upper grove]

Imagine OG scarlet gacha

[strange linden]

Wait she's a clip RL? Scarlet really is buffed
Probably have to spark the'

[upper grove]

My scar is still 7/5/7, more skill books please

[lunar dirge]

Technically, it will be 110% only since that part won 't work in pvp

[strange linden]

It did said enemy count outside of Nikke

She still has the 94%+20% attack dmg buff, hope it would be enough to OS thel

[junior briar]

It's 100% enough

[dire root]

rip, 3rd isn't possible I don't think.

[strange linden]

Nice it really feels like she was made for PvP as well
Cause what's the point of the 2sec invul at the start of the battle otherwise

Wait a minute

[covert lintel]

i think atk dmg xx% is different from atk xx% so it's a better buff than xanne

[strange linden]

Isn't Rosanna an electric rifle too?

[covert lintel]

she is MG

[strange linden]

Thank god lmao

94% atk dmg would make her OS two DPS all the time

[raven plover]

94% buff she needs to burst right

[rich quail]

I think it was to keep people from using Blanc to indom Scar, because that would be too good if you could indom Scar for 10 sec and do Scar burst and post-burst damage on top of Trina damage boost

[covert lintel]

my blanc served emi already

[rich quail]

Yeah, basically SU telling us to use Blanc on another team

So there is a bit of tension with Scar sans Blanc, but Jackal may be enough if Trina is your b2

Because heals

[covert lintel]

her heal won't affect much in pvp
2% hp per shot and that was lvl10

[rich quail]

Yeah, that is true

So you may need a Noah or a Noise to protecc

But the options for Scarlet being increased is always good

[raven plover]

moran carry

[rich quail]

And don’t forget
You can free up RH

[strange linden]

I feel like the 2sec invul is rather here to remove the need of Jackal

[rich quail]

Especially important for sp.a and CA (coming in March 2035!)

[covert lintel]

will scar's S2 still active if she get invul?

[rich quail]

I think so, right?

Activates when attacked

[crystal flicker]

yes

the very reason she can do 1 v 5 with Blanc indom

[rich quail]

yas

[crystal flicker]

Seems like I'm gonna burn 100pulls for her

[rich quail]

So my thinking is

If u need Scar nuke, roll with Trina

If you need post-burst s2 magic, Blanc your girl

[shell hazel]

i'll gather my pulls from the event shop and then go pull for her with w/e I have, I can't build her day 1 anyway

if Blanc moves team where does she go?

[crystal flicker]

T3

[rich quail]

Up to you

The beauty of team building

[crystal flicker]

as Noah reserved for Cindy counter in defen

Blanc will be there to counter ScarJack

maybe not

[rich quail]

If Trina burst gen is good, that could be excellent for Scar on atk or def

i dunno
pretty excited

[crystal flicker]

ye'

if shes clip rl, def SS++

[rich quail]

save those mats

I unintentionally saved mats since Sunday

[crystal flicker]

for what

[rich quail]

So by Trina day I could get 2-3 OL gears

[crystal flicker]

I don't even have doll mats

[rich quail]

SR0 baby

[crystal flicker]

and I'm failed sr15 helm

[rich quail]

[crystal flicker]

I'm already leveling missilis supporter gear

tbh I'm kinda worried

[crystal flicker]

I might able to get 200 pulls by the end of event, but IF I don't get Trina then I got nothing and left nothing

[lunar dirge]

I'm currently lacking 3 full sets of attacker misilis gear for drake,qeq and Mana(PvP ol)

[rich quail]

I never use Tove

[lunar dirge]

PvP slave

[rich quail]

T’is true

[crystal flicker]

It's Tetra support and defender for me

always out of them

even I haven't build Noise, Moran, and Rosanna

[swift mango]

SSS instantly

[raven plover]

[swift mango]

Skill reset when?

[swift mango]

🧱

[strong hull]

@swift mango since Echo is yeeted by me so yea time to cook my 3 def

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/let-him-cook-cook-cookin-big-wok-gif-141999319614473134

[swift mango]

I'm finally having core dust for 361 and still no time for doing campaign

Just post your box though.

Maybe type down everyone who has 10% CS above if you want.

@strong hull

[strong hull]

#pvp-arena message

Emi 21.

[swift mango]

I'm probably need to know LapT, HelmT, Centi, Rapu, Noah, Rumani, Biscuit, Emi (s1+gear), Noise, Jackal charge speed for this....

1. What's Noah and Noise charge speed?

2. Any units I listed above has above 12% Charge speed?

[strong hull]

None of them

Yes lapT and helmT p3

Only emi 21

[swift mango]

What about Noah and Noise? Need to know their CS for positioning.

[strong hull]

Let me log into the game to check it

[tulip quest]

SCARLET PVP META

BUT IM GEMLESS

ALSO increase damage affects all enemies burst if enemy only 1 BASICALLY FOR PVE 435% BOSSING

SCARLET GOES BOOMMMM on boss

if more than 2 in pve just 65%

WHY would they send us meta unit after 5 Characters on COLLAB

Nikke is COOKING MY Gems man why AM I POOR

[strong hull]

Not a single cs line

[pale knoll]

Not ein, that's only for assault rifles

[tulip quest]

TRINA also makes Electric RIFLE Invulnerable for 2 seconds Leftmost

[tulip quest]

oh right sniper my bad

SCARLET THEN

[crystal flicker]

I realized this Nikke is a must for bossing

[tulip quest]

TRINA Basically a 2seconds biscuit for Scarlet

[tulip quest]

SHIFT UP already have many electric strong units

[tulip quest]

WHAT ABOUT WATER? WIND HELLO

[tulip quest]

will see

later most likely for now for pvp is scarlet

moran also but only 1 can be left most, well I guess moran as tank

[minor pier]

Team 1:
Noah, Cindy, Biscuit, Blanc, Jackal
Team 2:
Moran, Trina, OG scarlet, x , x
Team3:
idk

[tulip quest]

oh cindy cannot be post 2

[minor pier]

cindy can! she do wonders~

[tulip quest]

XD

[vapid lake]

i can skip trina

[minor pier]

maybe ill give rapunzel to team 2 i guess.

[tulip quest]

now if she's clip Which is most likely she is

cause 2.5sec reload then shes perfect in pvp

[minor pier]

wats clip? some kinda twitch.tv thingy???

[tulip quest]

Rocket launchers are divided clip and non clip

clip is basically 1 by 1 reload of rocket

[minor pier]

what? O_o

they shoot rockets

[tulip quest]

but = MORE Burst generation

[tulip quest]

take grenade launcher

you put bullets 1 by 1

[minor pier]

we dont got grenade in nikke

[tulip quest]

ANIS BRUH

[minor pier]

oh

she spin her gun barrel yea

like a revolver

[tulip quest]

Ya

like revolver

[minor pier]

i still dont get wat clip is meaning or what it do

ik just watch them fire rockets

i give em tonsa charge spd to charge faster

my rapunzel revive og scarlet, and trina boost her and moran

[swift mango]

Do your Rumani have OL gears?

To which units you have 4/4 OL gear on exactly? I would assume up to Makima then.

[sleek root]

Why you no luck getting them? Just get lucky , Penguin

[tulip quest]

I'll give u hints how to know what is clip Look at how your Rocket Launcher Nikke reloads if only X1 not clip if many times =CLIP

[raven plover]

clip means you reload in parts not whole magazine

so far clip RLs have high burst gen

[strong hull]

All pvp unit have OL

Rosanna 999

[tulip quest]

CLIP Are Anis, Jackal, Centi, Rumani

[swift mango]

I thought you only had a bricked account

[jagged sedge]

Anyone got a link to Trina's kit? I cant find it.

[strong hull]

Well that lv480 is my Alt

I told you i have a lot of account

[swift mango]

Even SR Anis?

[strong hull]

Yes.

[raven plover]

scroll a bit
#pvp-arena message

[minor pier]

ohhh is that kinda like how pepper only re load a little bit of ammo if you manuel her by holding down left click?

[strong hull]

[minor pier]

oh neat!

[rich quail]

Anni and 1/2 anni

So May is next reset I think

[minor pier]

uh... are those crazy numbers strong? like 39.82 means she does something more op?

[swift mango]

Could try. Pretty sus without RH though... Just put RH instead of Rossana if you want... Make sure Scarlet is linked though.

[swift mango]

We had 3-4 reset last year.

[crystal flicker]

We get a good burst gen (HelmT), ScarDrunk Buffer(Trina), and possibly clipRL
maybe this is a preparation for new pvp

[minor pier]

is that for atk team only? since it use rosana?
what would a def team be like?

[rich quail]

I vividly recall that they did allow a skill reset that was not during anni or 1/2 anni because SU made a mistake

[tulip quest]

IT MEANS More burst generation

faster Burst skill

[minor pier]

[tulip quest]

ya

[swift mango]

Not sure, we had 1 for summer, 2 for 2 anniversary maybe another during Eva Collab I guess?

[rich quail]

I think new year had a skill reset in 2023 or 2024

[strong hull]

[quick lake]

That sheet shows how many % the burst bar is full at 2RL, 2.5RL, 3RL time etc . So bigger is better which means ur team will burst earlier and higher chance to win

[minor pier]

should i OL my SR anis and give her all charge spd, and sr15 doll?

[quick lake]

That's a lot of investment so generally people dont do that

[minor pier]

since it's PvP , the nikkes on the enemy team don't have elemental weakness? so ELE% is useless? only atk%

[quick lake]

There is still ele advantage. Ele% OL still works

[minor pier]

they arent weak to the element tho?

or is enemy cindy weak to my iron anis?

since she electric?

[quick lake]

Scarlet for example will do more dmg to water Helm and Emilia

[minor pier]

[quick lake]

The same ele advantage in pve carries over to pvp

[minor pier]

yay!

[quick lake]

Most of all the pvp stuff can be found here.
https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/pvp-intro/
https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/pvp-mechanics

[minor pier]

how come DEF% dont work? my crown has 20% DEF increase

[covert lintel]

yes, but since anis sr has low stat, even u give her full of ed you won't see any diff

[quick lake]

It does work! Just that def% increase is very weak in general. So even if u have 100% def up it is not that noticeable

At sync 400, u can see atk values are almost 5 times bigger than defence

And dmg formula is Dmg dealt = Nuke multiplier * (ATK - DEF) * other multipliers

[minor pier]

how do i make better DEF teams?
these are my strongest girls!
i keep losing

[quick lake]

Defence values generally too small to matter

[quick lake]

Can send ur full nikke list, sorted by cp and we can work something out

[minor pier]

it deleted my list

[shell hazel]

4 images max

[pale knoll]

Isn't your pvp cooked anyways?

[minor pier]

everyone elses syncro is like 100k higer than me...

[raven plover]

yea hes cooked theres power

[pale knoll]

Yeah I know since I saw you had skins from way before

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-doro-dorothy-pipe-bomb-gif-4643514375044855612

[minor pier]

[pale knoll]

Pvp brackets are based on account creation date

[minor pier]

im a week 1 player

[pale knoll]

Yeah, so you have week 1 players in your bracket. Those who didn't quit should be 521+ unless they spend

[minor pier]

aww no fair....

i wanna win too..... without spending.

[pale knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/pepega-swipe-pepega-swipe-credit-card-credit-gif-23046210

[minor pier]

i need someone to cook!

[pale knoll]

@quick lake

Maybe you can get top 100

[minor pier]

[quick lake]

Can try this:

[minor pier]

that's phase3 treasure viper right?

oh yeah the icon

[quick lake]

Yep! Phase 3 Viper and Helm i assume?

[minor pier]

yup

10% cahrge spd helm!

[minor pier]

this for Defense side right?
not my atteacker?

[pale knoll]

Attack teams depend on enemy's defense

So yes, def teams

[quick lake]

Yep for defence

[minor pier]

yay!all 3 setup

[minor pier]

my number 100k higher now! ❤️

hmm.. should a craft a rly op atk team now?

[keen vapor]

Choose target :Liter sip:

[raven plover]

and let echo cook

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-cooking-one-piece-gif-14981570359527007179

[lunar pawn]

Trina buff would be better than RH b1 + blanc for scarlet right?

Don't remember the numbers rn

[raven plover]

rh + trina

[keen vapor]

I think so

110 attack damage is crazy, is already 2 Graves worth of buffs

[quick lake]

Yeah more buffs than RH + Blanc

[pastel owl]

though scar/blanc's unique value lies on 10s indom even blocked by noah

[keen vapor]

Scarlet/Trina/Mica*/idk, clip SG as fillers

[keen vapor]

Indom is Blanc's value, not necessarily Scar

[sleek root]

Still need to consider that there is 2 B2 that can easily block Scarlet's nuke

NO matter how buffed it is

[pastel owl]

in CA sure, in SP using scar without blanc is easy target ig

[keen vapor]

Fine, Scarlet Trina Rosanna

[raven plover]

surely after trina we dont get electric AR who can aoe right

[quick lake]

Siren surely

[sleek root]

Eve stellar blade collab

[keen vapor]

We get Mighty Tools third member

Hajimemashte, I'm Ki- oh wait

Gram, what about that

Liter, Centi and Gram

We never needed a Kilo

it's going to be TON

help! A giant!

[pastel owl]

well i overlook 2RL scar well that trina does a bettter role there

[keen vapor]

If Liter good for PvE
And Centi good for pvp

Then for what will be good Mighty Tools third member?

[keen vapor]

Surface content?

[keen vapor]

Yes, 100 attack damage allows that easily

[quick lake]

I keep imagine surface content as some chibi tower defence mode

[keen vapor]

Chibi harvest moon/Stardew Valley

mode

[quick lake]

I dont want more resource management

[pastel owl]

more skill book and doll mat whatever

[quick lake]

CA on 13th hopefully

[spiral onyx]

gg Scarlet

[keen vapor]

We no longer have to invest Rei definitive name

Only Trina

[spiral onyx]

Literally wtf lmao. Scarlet will now 1-shot you two-times over

[bleak shale]

Shouldn't it just be x1.17

[spiral onyx]

Even if you 1-RL Scarlet, her AoE nuke will be 5.5mil

[lunar pawn]

Scar+trina already frees up more choices for the 2 other teams, rh/Blanc, even jackal, we'll see

[bleak shale]

Neither roots apply because it's aside from nikkes

So only S2 DMG up and 20% from burst

[keen vapor]

Again, this

[pastel owl]

1RL scar when

[spiral onyx]

ohh, aside from Nikkes

I read that wrong

[keen vapor]

Oh no

[bleak shale]

It's still our biggest scar steroid

[spiral onyx]

Ok, its now more reasonable

just barely under Cinderella 😛

[keen vapor]

Barely under

@tropic summit how to get Trina for free

[spiral onyx]

If you do 2RL Scarlet, you can also get away with it

[lunar pawn]

Also, I still think it's worth building rei2, not just for pve but also pvp

[keen vapor]

I don't want to wait months like I did with Bay Moran (they didn't make my defense better btw)

[quick lake]

Trina another pvp game changer

[keen vapor]

Rail

[spiral onyx]

I am curious though

[lunar pawn]

Think they're releasing new arena combos in light of CA

[spiral onyx]

does "rifles" include "Sniper Rifles"

[keen vapor]

Nah

[quick lake]

Doubt so. Just poor EN translation

[spiral onyx]

cause this would make Trina also an Ein support

aww

[keen vapor]

[bleak shale]

The patchnotes specified AR

[lunar pawn]

Don't think so, gotta check the skill desc in JP and KR

[bleak shale]

So it's prob a translation thing

[spiral onyx]

lol, yeah, she's literally a dedicated Scarlet support

[pastel owl]

jp one precisely assult rifle only

[keen vapor]

Uh huh

[lunar pawn]

Make soldier eg pvp meta

[quick lake]

Moran 110% atk tank

[spiral onyx]

Moran's actually really wild lol

[keen vapor]

Soldier Eagle sansheisimas

[spiral onyx]

can solo entire enemy teams if they get pulled into a stall match

[pastel owl]

someone pls cook a 2 cycle moran sustian

[vapid lake]

moran buffer

[keen vapor]

Moran lifesteal actually good

[quick lake]

Exactly

[lunar pawn]

Imagine having a built moran

[keen vapor]

I have

[pastel owl]

and whale soldier EG meme

[lunar pawn]

My next build plans were finishing up wasuka+rei2, then rumani, and only then moran

[minor pier]

moran is pvp too?

[quick lake]

CA gonna give 10k gems monthly and 1000 gold doll mats trust

[keen vapor]

And for Mother Whale Tetra

[lunar pawn]

Yea but only whales or pvp only players have her built

Since she can be pretty niche

[minor pier]

so trina helps her!

[spiral onyx]

lol

The other teams will be starved for burst gen though

[keen vapor]

C'mon, use Mica

[spiral onyx]

need ore clip RLs

[pastel owl]

trina B2

[spiral onyx]

oh, thought she was B1

[minor pier]

moran b1 trina b2 scarlet b3

[spiral onyx]

that makes building easier

[keen vapor]

Mica

[lunar pawn]

Still got emilia, thelm, jackal, for burst gen, but yea, kinda bad

[quick lake]

Moran still a relatively niche and expensive unit to build

[minor pier]

but it will win pvp?

[quick lake]

Depends on team building ultimately. Nth is guaranteed

[minor pier]

pvp = more gems
so building is good to get more gems long term!

[spiral onyx]

wait, no, same problem as before

eh, I'll cook later, need to go sleep first

[keen vapor]

It cost me a lot and she's not good enough against 40 level diff

[lunar pawn]

Gnite

[quick lake]

40 levels still barely doable

[minor pier]

isn't keripo that one super OP pvp excell sheet guy?
if he say thing is good, i should follow him somehow?

[upper grove]

Ch 1 had cindy p1

How faster can I get with cindy p1, 0.5 RL or even more?

[quick lake]

Well, ur issue is mostly u’re behind in sync compared to ur bracket peeps. Week 1 players are ~501-521+

[lunar pawn]

Can confirm, f2p active since day 1, 521

[quick lake]

Just 1RL. If full team 17% CS, it would be 0.6RL

[minor pier]

@quick lake can u cook me 3 teams on my f2p GLB alt acct?

[quick lake]

sure can send ur full roster

[upper grove]

Time to rat this guy before reset, just for the laughs

[minor pier]

created this acct right before cindy event.

[quick lake]

Blanc RH Biscuit Viper Anis
Moran Grave Cindy Drake Alice
Auto

[minor pier]

like auto setup team 3 for cp boost?

[quick lake]

Yep!

[minor pier]

[pastel owl]

auto is not smart enough to treat rhh b1 though

[minor pier]

wait does this take into account my Viper is phase 3 too?

[spiral onyx]

Aww yus. Helm+ to the rescue

[quick lake]

Yup, that’s fine

[quick lake]

Trina speculated to be clipRL, we’ll wait and see

[minor pier]

3rd team is what the auto button made:

[quick lake]

Helm treasured?

[minor pier]

LB0

[quick lake]

Oh okay, those teams are good

[minor pier]

TYSM rheax~ ❤️

[keen vapor]

106 should make Mica doable

[strong hull]

Alr let see how long can it hold for 1#

[tulip quest]

LOL me too

cause of Ein

[spiral onyx]

ok this is wild, I'm legit breaking out Pascal

we need another clip RL please

[bleak shale]

just pray vid isnt wrong and trina is clip RL

2 problems solved in 1 unit

[spiral onyx]

Actually, please no

[bleak shale]

2 problems solved in 1 unit!

[spiral onyx]

I dont want Shift Up to be breaking PvP left and right like that

Helm+ and Noah buff were already crazy enough

[bleak shale]

double pvp break!

[spiral onyx]

I am kinda curious though

Scarlet is insta-burst

can 2RL Scarlet actually be viable

with Trina providing sufficient buffs

previously it was no cause 2RL meant Scarlet didnt have enough self buff stacks and you couldnt get enough buffs from B1 and B2 while doing 2RL

[outer garden]

alright... I should ask for some SP arena comps, based on the units I have
I think i have most of the good units, apart from Jackal

[spiral onyx]

but with Helm+ being a fat battery and Trina pretty much being super buffer for her...

[tulip quest]

I watched Trina reloading animation in game news 3x reload overall to like Anis reload animation

isn't she CLIP?

[bleak shale]

theres many factors to it, currently all clip rockets have been clip rocket gen but theres nothing stopping her from being normal rocket gen + clip rocket ammo

it all depends on shiftup and we will see when it comes

or the video just being wrong

iirc sanis video was wrong at one point?

[tulip quest]

let us hope

[swift mango]

Moran dmg is minimal anyway, and Tryna only buff one unit. So reason to use.

@minor pier I guess you mean Scarlet is still p1 to get the dmg buff. MB... Should work if your Moran could somehow make use of Tryna HP buff I guess...

[minor pier]

yeah, i was only saying burst order, not position

[livid pasture]

How broken is Trina?

[graceful grotto]

scarlet's best friend

[swift mango]

Should be SSS tier for arena if clip RL...

[lone sequoia]

a really good bait unit (i will pull) but if her burst gen is higher than normal RL she will be strong pvp or filler unit

[swift mango]

She is already strong PvP with her kits alone even if her burst gen is that of cindy.

[swift mango]

Should 521+ now or bricked a bit.

[lone sequoia]

strong as scarlet buffer(? but i still think blanc teams are better because those extra 10sec+s2 counters, if you go for the nuke and have the speed; yes trina is really good but that is only for def, in atk you can use the unit you want
in pve... maybe she keep scarlet in a "competitive lvl"

she doesn't look like a core unit to me, unless she really is a clip RL and* become the speed of the team

i will try to use her S1 in different teams

[graceful grotto]

if she's a clip

u can use trina on scarlet T1, blanc + biscuit on T2 (with dps like sbs/ein/sanis) and noah on T3

so i'll say yeah, very strong indeed

[bleak shale]

true

im above 521 already

[keen vapor]

the definitive defense will born on SP

[warm monolith]

Help pls

[graceful grotto]

you're asking for attack or defense team?

[warm monolith]

Atk to defeat this guy but if you can im happy for a def team too

[lone sequoia]

i will use 3 anti nuke teams at the same speed and win, she really need a high burst gen or team speed to make the fight tricky b3 hit when the enemy cast b2 or faster

[graceful grotto]

the opponent burst gen for T1 and T2 absolutely sucks

since u have thelm it should be easy as long as u don't lose out too much on CP

[umbral belfry]

t3 looks like deficit loss but can't calc rn

[warm monolith]

I have🙂

Im just dont sure if i atk him ill win or not

[graceful grotto]

T1 - Noah-Rapunzel-SBS-Centi-Jackal

T2 - Blanc-Scarlet-Biscuit-tHelm-Rapipi

[warm monolith]

In my first team crown and naga dies so easily

[graceful grotto]

check CP deficit

[warm monolith]

One sec

[graceful grotto]

i normally put scarlet in POS 1 but i afraid ur scarlet might die too fast all things considered

if CP deficit that is

[warm monolith]

What should i put for t3?

[graceful grotto]

for attack, jsut leave it, you only need to win T1 and T2

[warm monolith]

I have around 130k deficit on T1 and 120k on team2 and only 20k on T3 i made

Should i go for it?

[graceful grotto]

damn

that's a huge CP deficit lol

[warm monolith]

My invested ones are great but i only invested like a few teams

[umbral belfry]

Might be gg

[warm monolith]

Im going for it?

[umbral belfry]

You might be nearing or at the deficit at those levels, which is usually a loss

[graceful grotto]

team 1 might be tricky ngl

that huge deficit, rapunzel might die

[swift mango]

She could stop Scarlet from being normal attacked to death or one shot by Rossanna due to low HP. She make Moran more viable. She open up Blanc to go with another team.

She is very viable for current meta.

Her buff being much stronger than RH is just icying on the cake.

[warm monolith]

Yeah rap actually holded onto well but noah couldnt though i have more invested noah,anyway thank you for teams im just starting on pvp so many of my units are waiting to be invested on and i still have to try

[graceful grotto]

wdym? did u enter burst?

lost T1 and won T2?

[warm monolith]

Yeah i entered burst easily and it actually lasted a lot but i lost both of them

[graceful grotto]

that meant ur sbs couldn't nuke them in time during noah's burst invulnerability

the CP deficit is too big

31% difference, you are not gonna do much even if u burst

[tropic summit]

le wallet may help, although i'm sure you've a bit of gems saved up come on

[umbral belfry]

Ol reliable

[warm monolith]

I will invest on them Thanks for your help

I have collection items on most of my nikkes but many of them are not leveled up which nikkes should i invest for pvp

[tropic summit]

@umbral belfry started cooking, they grow up so fast

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

more like defense just got weaker with trina

requirement now is that you run 3 defs on 2RL with anti nuke

and assume they've the equivalent of RH + blanc as nuke damage

yeah, let's hope CA is in 2 days

[graceful grotto]

priority: Noise, Noah, Jackal, Biscuit, OG Scarlet, HelmT (Make sure her S1 = 10)

secondary: Rumani, Centi, Noir, Rapunzel

tertiary: Moran, Laplace (T)

[graceful grotto]

CP wise yeah probably

[tropic summit]

whales have nothing to worry about, if that's what you meant

[warm monolith]

Does solo raid ends today?

[tropic summit]

2RL dealing peanuts dmg is still peanuts, even if super fast 🐳

[swift mango]

Buy the company so you could get the unit for free.

[umbral belfry]

I guess I really do gotta gear up my scarlet now

[tropic summit]

no more excuses, invest

[keen vapor]

I said for free

[tropic summit]

the better thing about scarlet with trina, she gets better even for pve

[keen vapor]

That's not free

[umbral belfry]

Rail approved

[tropic summit]

i mean, you can have my thoughts and prayers

[keen vapor]

Cook then

[tropic summit]

i think he might need more money than just swiping for the units then

[swift mango]

Step 1: Gets adopted by owner of the company.

Step 2: Get him to leave a will for you as his sole inheritor.

Step 3: Kill him secretly.

[tropic summit]

once trina is added to the burst gen sheets and confirmed as clip RL sure will

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/aizen-bleach-sosuke-aizen-perfectly-as-planned-planned-gif-7496081139900199648

[cedar orbit]

my ex-special arena member is top 6 in SR

[tropic summit]

why aren't you top 5 in SR

if he can, you should too

[cedar orbit]

I haven't done SR yet

don't have racist treasured

[tropic summit]

Iris top 5 soon or not

[cedar orbit]

do I just waste 20 bucks on the Asuka skin, so she stops dressing as a hobo?

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit dam

[tropic summit]

campaign team for the most part

at least whoever attacks that can hit 1RL

[fathom rock]

Jackal might solo carry to 2rl guaranteed

[tropic summit]

why stop at 2RL

[fathom rock]

Also i saw trina and i feel so bad for being scarless rn

[tropic summit]

we've yet a lot to confirm about her anyway

it's still trading indom for quick 2RL glass cannon

strong on atk sure because you can tailor it... but on def it doesn't add anything

it's annoying rather, as def just got further weaker

[fathom rock]

Its gonna be felt in pvp and pve
I wish i get scar soon

[tropic summit]

yeah for sure

[fathom rock]

Also i see 0 reason why you cant run indom eith trina offburst buffer healer and invul for scar

[tropic summit]

that's doable yeah

[fathom rock]

Just dont fight p5 hitters

[tropic summit]

13/03 and pandora box opens, we'll see 🍿

[fathom rock]

Did patch note mention ca

[crystal flicker]

no

[tropic summit]

that "new gameplay mode" on 13/03 is the only hope

if it's not CA it better be first person shooter mode as playable RH and you just shoot everything

a la doom

[pale knoll]

Where

[tropic summit]

inb4 it's just "new titles" the new gameplay and feature

[umbral belfry]

needs more arrows

[pale knoll]

It kinda looks like that

[crystal flicker]

PvP title plz

[tropic summit]

let's just hope it's 2 different points somehow

although it being 5.1 is already a big red flag

[brazen ledge]

Do we know if trina is a clip rl ?

[crystal flicker]

no

[tropic summit]

schrodinger trina, might be, might not.

Reload alludes she may be

#pvp-arena message

[keen vapor]

Is one

[brazen ledge]

Okk

[keen vapor]

How does Biscuit reload

[brazen ledge]

Thx, imo it’d be strange to give her this ability (?)

But if she has it she’s super good in pvp

[tropic summit]

she reloads only once tho, unlike Trina who reloads several "clips"

[keen vapor]

[brazen ledge]

Somewhat useful abilities (more than a centi or anis) and top tier burst gen ? I TAKE THAT

[keen vapor]

How does jackal reload

[brazen ledge]

I just read the kit again, 20% atk buff is pretty solid

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

Echo open what

[tropic summit]

oh he noticed

🏃‍♂️ ☁️

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

might be time to set rat catcher I gotta go out for a few hours

[tropic summit]

the time has come

[shell hazel]

🐀

[keen vapor]

I can't snipe, level diff too big and haven't reached my nemesis stage yet

[tropic summit]

pain

actively prevented from even having a chance

[shell hazel]

3 x 3RL and cp didn't drop too badly from previous cp padded team (lost about 12k)

[keen vapor]

I got sniped

By a dumb one

[shell hazel]

cindy p1

[tropic summit]

ohoh nice, no longer CP padded team only as T3

looks good

[tropic summit]

at least they used 2 tries, if you reclaim he won't attack again unless gemming, surely

[crystal flicker]

That just strategical attack

[keen vapor]

[crystal flicker]

SPA closed in few hours, why bother

[tropic summit]

better starting position for next season

enemy has to win twice against if you reclaim and gem to switch position for next reset

pretty much same concept as ratting 1 minute before reset

[keen vapor]

Mmmmm ratting

[astral turret]

New update on the upgrades you suggested, look at those defense wins

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

wow, you killing them all

[astral turret]

Are ammo OLs good for rosanna or should i just reroll for atk%, crit rate and elem atk only?

[keen vapor]

Ammo is not needed in 10 seconds fight

[quick lake]

atk% primarily, cr and ele nice to have alongside

[astral turret]

ok thank you! one more question

My emi's OLs are 4 cs, 4 elem, 3x atk, 1 ammo. should I reroll the ammo for another attack

[tropic summit]

if emi total CS% (with s1 aswell) is 21%, you're set on CS

[quick lake]

Its great enough

[tropic summit]

rest can be atk and elem

[quick lake]

Abit too much cs, but that’s fine

[tropic summit]

1 ammo should be enough iirc?

[quick lake]

We dont know. No Emi gang

[umbral belfry]

[astral turret]

so it's better to reroll the ammo for atk than right?

[quick lake]

I would keep it as it is. 1 ammo+ is good

If u really want to min max, can roll of 1-2 cs for attack/ammo imo

[keen vapor]

You NA

[quick lake]

But not worth it imo. Ur Emi is really good as she is

Better to work on another unit

[umbral belfry]

Did you think otherwise

Also must be nice having an Emi

[coarse lake]

Emi wants ammo yes

For indom emi

1 ammo + bastion is what I run, never reload until indom is over

[keen vapor]

[quick lake]

Emi have not gang

[astral turret]

I was told to put quantum on Emi. Is bastion better?

[keen vapor]

In his case

[astral turret]

why is that?

[coarse lake]

Depends on ammo and comp

Bastion mainly for 1 ammo indom emi

And quantum only if that makes a diff

Outside of those 2 situations your highest lvl cube is best

[keen vapor]

I have Adjutant on my case

[lusty gull]

me too

usually

[oak gale]

blud i switched my cubes just to get a decent score in solo raid and i find my ass back in challenger 4 wtf-

@tropic summit hilp, chal 1

and chal 2

[whole pawn]

why is pvp so hard

can't even stay at my rank for 2 h

[oak gale]

and these are the characters
everyone until rapi redhood is somewhat built with skills like from 10 10 10 to 4 4 7 or 10 10 4 etc ,but beyond that ultil centi are full ol but skills arent fully leveled up

[oak gale]

idk man , i was chllin in my rank , decided to switch my cubes for like 3 hours or smthn to do my solo raid and complete it , and i find myself banished to the shadow realm 💀

bc god forbid my characters survive for a minute against that boss without dolls and cubes up their cores

[whole pawn]

it does seem that ur unit are more invested, everyone in my bracket has more cp, don't even have Noah

[oak gale]

yes and no , my bracket is chill and such , but i swear like a find new ppl that suddenly pop out of nowhere and take ch1 suddenly ,and then its the journey of me asking here 💀

and its not like oh they are creeping up , i check the ranking everytime , but suddenly someone appears out of nowhere

tho i hope i can reclaim it before the server reset

[tropic summit]

t1 and t3 seem doable, see how far you can stack in CP scarlet on T1

t1: scar flex flex flex jackal, can safely go 4RL if needed and drop a rapunzel to ensure you live
t3: very slow team here aswell, can p1 def p5 def + biscuit, rest flex with a decent B3 (SBS, cindy, RH)

sorry was away so only saw now the msg

[sleek root]

Haha! so other people actually experience this other then me. It's like they know your busy doing SR, and using the cubes

Damn them!

[swift mango]

I'm somewhat of a sniper too... ~almost forgot to finish my daily missions today, thanks god

[tropic summit]

as for this one, a bit easier than CH1 as it makes it easier on CP

-T1: the red slots in T1 are flex, ensure you're either 3RL or 4RL, it can be anything, aim perhaps for a buffer for cindy although you'll still kill regardless
-T2: standard scarlet will win just due to feed and unlinked enemy scarlet, she'll die to nuke or to indom afterward

[oak gale]

its fine lol

[oak gale]

i did beat chal 2 after i sent the message, since i thought u were away , just switched my power team against theirs and switched my t2 and t3 i think , t1 and t2 won

[oak gale]

ye and its not only that , one time i just switched my team in 1v1 pvp , yk just bc it countered most ppl ad there was one guy in my list that can counter me ||still can|| , and right after i did it that one guy suddenly comes up and spends all is tries on my ass 💀

[umbral belfry]

yatta

[oak gale]

i forgot to chck the main acually , will do after i finish the tribal towers

[umbral belfry]

[unkempt kestrel]

so close rip

[umbral belfry]

still gems tho

I fear when the whale in my bracket sees that he got 4th he's gonna turn into fr fr

[tropic summit]

they still need to kick you out of ch2 and ch3 after that, seems like you'll be fine for the next 2 months

noone else would beat you right? 🤔

[umbral belfry]

They need to beat c2 for that first, they keep playing the uno reverse game

[tropic summit]

oh interesting

let's hope they stay busy with themselves then

[umbral belfry]

And for the time being no, but mayhaps in the future

gives me time to build up my scarlet

[tropic summit]

that will be the time to unleash the scarlet + trina you're cookin' soon

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-smile-grin-jjk-yuji-itadori-gif-18924114

scarlet + trina, and helm for another team

[tropic summit]

keep in mind the opponent will be allowed the same on other hand, a problem to face soon

[umbral belfry]

it's war then

[umbral belfry]

andersen

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

Movie looks cool but by the time he finished preparation he could already take 100 bullets to the head.

[oak gale]

thank you for funding my addiction

[tropic summit]

oh don't worry, plot armor was stronk, just like SKK in nikke

dude could get kidnapped by an heretic, essentially held at gunpoint, yet somehow live another day

[onyx scaffold]

[eager mountain]

2700 gem still safe since that mf still having rng issues against my def
And Trina might change that like how helm messed up my def and then I’d have to check PvP 69 times a day
Damn

[still storm]

@spiral onyx if Trina really as good as advertised is 3 teams of 2RL feasible?

[spiral onyx]

I dont think Trina is clip RL, so the feasibility of that hasnt changed

for burst gen batteries, we have:

• Helm+
• Jackal
• Anis
• Centi
• Runami
• Emilia
• Noah
• Pascal
• clip SGs

of those, only Helm+ buffs (post Full Burst though)

[eager mountain]

her reload is clip reload

[spiral onyx]

so if you want 3x 2RL, you will need to find 3 units that can work with just a single buffer

[lunar dirge]

And 2,52 s reload

Normal rl's have 2s

[spiral onyx]

Pretty much Scarlet, Emilia, and Cinderella

[lunar dirge]

Clip rl's always have a different reload time

[still storm]

why not ein? bad burstt gen?

[spiral onyx]

Ein needs 2 buffers

[brazen ledge]

where do you find that ?

[brazen ledge]

cindy burst gen is so terrible

[spiral onyx]

Second tab of my tier list. Its new
https://tinyurl.com/nikke-pvp-tierlist

[brazen ledge]

oh ok thx

[spiral onyx]

The thing is, we just dont have enough batteries atm to make 3x 2RL teams I dont believe

well, 3x 2RL working teams

[eager mountain]

That’s the confusing part, it should be lower but animation shows she has clip reload

[brazen ledge]

may i ask why sanis so much higher than sbs if sbs does more dmg, hits more and can be played against scarjack ?

[lunar dirge]

The point is, any weird reload number pretty much guarantees it's clip rl

1,84s, 2,03 as an example

[spiral onyx]

you need 3 burst gen batteries per team to make 2RL, so 9 in total. We have 7

[still storm]

can't pepper technically count

[lunar dirge]

Maybe we can propel 1 team to 2rl with jacksl

[spiral onyx]

you can argue Cinderella doesnt need buffers and Emilia is her own battery

[lunar dirge]

And helm is like 1,5 clip rl worth

[lunar dirge]

(almost)

[spiral onyx]

so maybe you can figure it out?

I dunno, someone else can cook, I dont do SP Arena cooking

I only focus on CA cooking atm

[eager mountain]

True
Just that those clip rl usually have <1s reload, and I donno if Trina’s calculated based on empty to full reload

[spiral onyx]

and Trina just recently broke apart my 5 CA teams cause suddenly I want to pair Scarlet with Trina instead of Blanc

so now all my teams are in chaos

[lunar dirge]

That all do have more than 1 sec, and they have a delay before reload sonetimes

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-hello-elmo-rise-elmo-hell-gif-3989603362345473118

[lunar dirge]

Wanna split jackal away from scar or nah?