pvp-arena

[crystal flicker]

when

[swift mango]

Arknight made history with rerunning their first collaboration banners after 4 years. But that's not planned at all. Just because the dev of Arknight loved R6S so much.

[wanton island]

im just saying.. youre blowing a gasket over nothing. these gachas always move forward and whatever yesterday's hotness was will be old news a year from now

[swift mango]

Not sure, I think I mixed it up with another idol group Collab...

[wanton island]

nothing copium about reality unless you want to "collect them all"

[swift mango]

Your are the one keep saying "collaboration will rerun" but it's not. Just come to gacha gaming subreddit to open a question and ask "will gacha rerun Collab?". Or just Google it. 90% the time they don't.

[wanton island]

maybe the gachas you play are low-quality bottom of the barrel then

[crystal flicker]

Idol themed never get rerun (Hololive, IM@S, Kizuna AI)

[wanton island]

all the ones ive seen run it every year

[umbral belfry]

AK low quality

[swift mango]

Your are playing the bottom of the barrel here. Dude...

Only shit like AFKarena could rerun their Collab forever.

[wanton island]

top-rated on google

[summer copper]

screw reruns, you snooze you lose

[swift mango]

Yeah, like Trash shit AFKarena right?

[wanton island]

afk arena isnt top rated

i didnt see it

[swift mango]

Try naming your top rate gacha that rerun Collab 100% then.

[wanton island]

ive heard of it, but i never played it

[wanton island]

it sounds like you want a fight for no reason with this statement

[swift mango]

Genshin is top and the barrier and they don't do Collab let alone rerun

[wanton island]

genshin i have all the heroes

[swift mango]

You brought up enough reason this far.

[swift mango]

And no collab

[wanton island]

im just saying i see seasonal returns all the time

[swift mango]

Because they aren't Collab wtf...

[wanton island]

youre really blowing a cork over this

[swift mango]

Am I talking to a kid who doesn't know about contract and copyright law?

[wanton island]

guessing by your argumentative stance, id wager my kid is older than you

[swift mango]

Okay bro.

Let's just stop since nothing get through to you.

[wanton island]

im guessing youre in your 20s

at most...

[swift mango]

Just Google it to know more about collaboration in games. It's easier to accept that you learned it on your own.

[wanton island]

ive been playing these games before you were even alive. i know how they stay relevant

that original pilachu falls off eventually

[sleek root]

No idea why your entertaining the guy, he's a clown... I blocked him the moment he put on the red nose

Just ignore him and talk about PvP

[wanton island]

yeah. idk. i give people the benefit of the doubt until im 100% convinced. he is 99.9% there though ahaha

[dim escarp]

[tropic summit]

you generally don't want to run them together, at least in sp arena

can run them in a rookie team though

since noah taunts you'd rather have her p1 or p5

jackal can theoretically be anywhere as long as you don't want her to steal your B1

i guess 2 archetype for rookie teams with noah and jackal together would be this, rest just fill as needed

hmm that's a tall order, you'd need noah to tank 3RL

take away grave and put in a biscuit and you'd be good enough

a faster team you just sacrifice one of those

need noah + clip RL + jackal + cindy + burst clip SG gen tier

example:

stick to 3RL with a good balance of CP i'd say

cindy on 3RL is a bit weak nowdays because snapshot fixing

if you've an instant nuke prefer that over her

sounds good, stick to what works

[umbral crown]

Probably

[shell hazel]

blanc doll not going well to start with lol

130 blue materials up in 🔥

[tropic summit]

oh wow terrible RNG

[shell hazel]

yeah that is the thing, one minute good RNG, next minute sucky RNG lol

the SBS blue doll was like this as well, painful! but my Cindy doll upgrades were pretty smooth :p

[tropic summit]

uh at least you got some balancing out

can't have only bad rolls hopefully

[shell hazel]

haha tell that to my summons, mostly bad 😄

not sure how I fix my SBS got two line 3 ammo rolls, hard to solve

[patent niche]

Needs tweaking.

helm is treasured to p3 maxed skills

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[patent niche]

and i'm not even who i should invest in next

not sure who I should invest

rumani, centi, and bsoda are currently low investment

[tropic summit]

what's rosanna investiment?

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind helm rumani
scarlet blanc rh xmaiden jackal
noah noise biscuit s.anis rapu

quantum on centi, rumani
vigor on noise, blanc, biscuit, rapu
resil on s.anis, s.anis burst must be lvl 9 at least and no ammo OL
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

let's go with this for now, if they still break it we going to try a different stall team

investiment: raise centi, noah, rumani CP for sure, as we'll need them anyway, 4/4/4 R15 or SR5 doll, 4OL lvl 0
can consider laplace treasure aswell if not already obtained
can consider rosanna 7/10/10 SR5 4 OL (ideally some atk%)

[patent niche]

I forgot to mention I still don’t have rapunzel but of course wish listed. Mana has no place anywhere? Also what setup do you typically use to attack typical Noah or Sanis/Biscuit teams?

[tropic summit]

can use tia until you get rapunzel in her place for now

[tropic summit]

noah is weak to emilia on same RL speed, or any stall team that out DPS or outsustain her comp

an example is s.anis that can bypass her and focus on attackers

alternatively specific tailored offense team on a slower noah (2RL against 3RL)

[swift plaza]

Hello, I recently started in the game. Could you help me form two or three teams for pvp

[junior briar]

Why blanc doll?

[robust lodge]

Out of curiosity, does anyone provide a service to help me build my team comps for Nikke PvP? Rookie Arena, SP Arena, attack and defense teams? I'd be willing to pay for your help to build me some teams for the units that I have, and maybe give me some pointers on which units I should prioritize on investing into.

[umbral crown]

Should have started from SR0

[umbral crown]

Yes, oir bricked boi @keen vapor

[polar bolt]

Hey guys, any recommendations against this set up?

This is what I'm working with

I actually asked yesterday, it was recommended I try Noah/Biscuit/Cindy/Helm/Rumani vs his Scarlet team but unfortunately didn't work

[raven plover]

@tropic summit gonna be rich

[polar bolt]

Here's a vid of my last attempt (I made a 3rd team just for fun, almost worked surprisingly)

[umbral crown]

To buy skins, works for me

[glad meteor]

Cindirella stole biscuit s2

[dire root]

So when jackal and biscuit are on the same team do they make a chain of sorts with their skills. Jackal sharing damage and being a defender so biscuits healing kicks in healing jackal to give the units she is linked to more HP.

[quick lake]

Can probably ask @tropic summit or myself if u need any cooking

Already cooking for free

[glad meteor]

Rheax, you see this. Cindy and her feed

[bright salmon]

Hi there, I'm trying to create team using calculator in pinned, but look like I got problem:
. only have enough for 2 teams so the rest in first team I add highest cp
. I don't know unit sync and look like it work not really well.
Can anyone help me to make Def team please? (I have almost every nikke except limited Emillia)

[dire root]

Do I win here? Unsure, Rei and Maiden have the 1st and 2nd attack power of the team, and Rei's burst is at 4.

[glad meteor]

Next thing I can think of is noah biscuit helmt xmaiden noise

[quick lake]

Damn the solo scarlet counter

[glad meteor]

I hate cindy

Had one job, be defender dps

[quick lake]

Noise ReiT Biscuit Maiden Jackal
should win

[quick lake]

Everyday Cindy's ranking just keep going down

[dire root]

I'm confused, don't you want a jackal link to be in 1st slot to be a tank?

[quick lake]

But then Noise burst is not used. Ideally we have linked P1 and P2, where P1 is Noise. Thats best case

Can probably swap maiden for a defender

[dire root]

Tbh I wasn't really thinking about burst 1, I assumed as long as Rei's burst III fired first there was a good chance I would win.

[quick lake]

If u need any help, can just send ur box here tbh

[quick lake]

that is true as well

[dire root]

Doesn't maiden have good burst gen though?

[quick lake]

Yeah. Honestly can just use those teams

[jagged sedge]

What happens if two people attack the same rank at once?

[dire root]

Attacker class Nikkes have much higher attack because of their gear, not sure how noise would have higher attacker then Maiden or Rei unless I remove pieces of Rei Or maidens gear.

I suppose removing one of the attackers would also work.

[quick lake]

Yeah, removing an attacker for a defender is usually the safest

That's why one of the god comps are:
Noise Scarlet Noah Rapunzel Jackal

[dire root]

Oh cool it worked

[quick lake]

Anis is great, if there's no cp penalty

[umbral crown]

Can i ask for a RH

As payment

[quick lake]

I would if I could

[umbral crown]

[quick lake]

She'll spook u eventually

[dire root]

3rd place is so sweet, ~~for the 5 seconds I have it. ~~

Should 1st place even be in our bracket? It feels like he should be in a higher combat power bracket.

I'm not sure how they decide which bracket a player is placed it, like is it based on account creation date? I assume not because you would just have dead brackets after a while.

[quick lake]

Yep! Based on account creation date, u guys are grouped tgt and likely will see each other for a long time

[dire root]

I see, so 1st place will likely never be mine unless the whale stops playing.

I refuse to believe you get double the combat power of everyone else without whaling

[quick lake]

Yeah, looks like a whale

[dire root]

So if your account is old wouldn't you just have a super dead bracket with only some players.

[quick lake]

Yep! It can happen. Usually for pvp, they'll group u with several adjacent brackets. So u will still get ppl to play with

[dire root]

I assume the game isn't just going to hand you 1st place everytime if not enough players are in the bracket.

[dire root]

oh ok

The funny thing is, the whale isn't in 1st chip wise.

I'm not sure how, with that much combat power holding 2 round everytime even in defense should be easy.

you could just give up a round and compress all your combat power into 2 rounds. no one would have enough to beat you.

[fast skiff]

curious how is he able to beat me when i dont hv a problem attacking him i have the same attack and defense team for Rookie did he change the positioning of his units or used different ones

[quick lake]

He probably just hasnt claimed the chips. Once he claims, he'll be first

[quick lake]

Attack and defence teams probably differeny.

[dire root]

I see, oh that remindes me, do you lose chips if storage is full?

I assume so

[quick lake]

U dont lose the red chips. The continue to accumulate even though visually it might be 9999
But u do lose the arena tickets, ie capped at 9999

[dire root]

Ah I see, not much of a loss considering the game showers you with arena tickets.

[fast skiff]

i should probably change my defense team granted offense teams are more favored so let me know if u hv any ideas for my defense team

[quick lake]

Scarlet Blanc RH THelm Jackal

[fast skiff]

can u explain why Red Hood i saw a document from keripo granted its an old doc hasnt updated since 4 months and it said Red Hood should only be for attacking

[quick lake]

Hmm, red hood is primarily used as B1 buffer nowadays

If u use RH as B3 on defence, it is easily countered by Defender + Biscuit

So that was the context that Keripo was mentioning

[fast skiff]

kk

[fast skiff]

i mean hes def using noah and laplace since im the one that in the server that people copy their teams with

ive been 1st for months that dudes the only one actually trying cuz he can somewhat keep up

[quick lake]

Then maybe dont use such good team for defence so they dont copy

[fast skiff]

fair point but its fun tho pvp would be boring without that guy

oh well thanks then ill try that team out if it doesnt work ill keep experimenting

[quick lake]

Can reference these if u need to
#pvp-arena message

[small raptor]

Hi I have a question about RA: which team is good against the team at the bottom? My team is the top one

[quick lake]

The main problem is the deficit u have. As long no deficit, should be fine

[small raptor]

I see... Let me try to roll more gears. Thanks!

[glad meteor]

Maybe

Noah biscuit cindirella rh xmaiden

Could maybe work at 24% less deficit

[fast skiff]

maybe we can change the scarlet one she dies and red hood lives i still won tho lol what would be other alternatives for scarlet

Scar Blanc RH Helm.T Jackal (3RL)

or is she rlly important for that team

[small raptor]

I used to be able to beat him, but he level'ed up more lately and I can't beat him anymore

[quick lake]

Oh, that means ur Scarlet isnt linked with jackal. Ideally we want her to be linked

[fast skiff]

which position should jackal be in

or is it based on highest attack tht she links with

[glad meteor]

Yeah, deficit problems. The vid I sent above shows me using liter

[quick lake]

Yeah, its based on highest attack, including OLs

Otherwise,
Scarlet Blanc RH Emilia/Centi Jackal is fine too

[fast skiff]

yea my helm has slightly higher attack than scarlet

[raven plover]

one of them gonna get "player is in battle" or something like that, then if you dont refresh and challenge it again, you gonna get "rank has changed"

[umbral crown]

Your team is perfect but deficit does not help ou

[small raptor]

got it, thank you!

[jagged sedge]

@raven plover ah ok. Was wondering about that

[fast skiff]

i may have overdone i was hoping to experiment more units but dude got sent to rank 11 now he wont pop up ill just wait tomorrow then

[umbral crown]

Dude: am i a joke to you?
Why was i send to rank 11?

[fast skiff]

hes been experiencing this everyday for the past few months i would even use 10+ attempts using gems just for fun

at least he doesnt give up

[quick lake]

[umbral crown]

Waos

I just x2 rank 2 and ran 3 and x1 rank 4

Sometimes just 1 boi attack but mostly they all skip me

[coarse solstice]

Could I get help beating this team I'm having a ton of trouble with it

[brittle hill]

Mines not going to work for yours probably. Dunno about your investments

[crystal flicker]

Just need faster nuke tbh

[coarse solstice]

I have helms treasure stage one 8** 4 4, Laplace is 444 with max treasure

[coarse solstice]

Yeah I don't have summer anis

[brittle hill]

oh she's not really needed here. Someone that can slow your burst down to 4RL while still hitting hard

[brittle hill]

So either Cinderella or Alice. The center gets targeted sometimes, which is why I don't upgrade summer anis doll. hehe Redhood SR15 goes brrr

[quick lake]

Helm Treasure? Burst skill level?

[coarse solstice]

We got there even at 15k deficit

[coarse solstice]

Stage 1 8** 4 4

Sure thing

[quick lake]

@coarse solstice u probably need quantum cubes here to get 2RL ignore me

Ah okay fair

[spiral onyx]

Quantum cubes only give +4% lol. They are for very niche usage when you just need a tiny bit more to get passed the threshold. Not leap an entire threshold

Throwing 5 lvl 15 Quantum cubes at your party isn't magically gonna turn a 3RL team into a 2RL team

[coarse solstice]

I think it matter more specifically for helm because of how her treasure works

[crystal flicker]

Rare Keripo has appeared!

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-3584473422170938815

[coarse solstice]

Ken thanks for the help I tried a bunch of teams and it just wasn't getting though

[glad meteor]

Just pray for rh cover hit and no need quantum

[coarse lake]

bc of how her treasure works quantum is worth almost nothing on her

it only applies to her raw basic hit gen + raw s2 hit gen

[whole pawn]

no I didn't , I used my last attempt to climb again from dia, we will never know

actually let me try and check if I m demoted to diamond again xd

if I do this propably won't be able to beat the other teams xd

[sudden drift]

morning all.. tks rail for being my mental alarm clock did raid and dumped all mats into helm like a good boy

[wise horizon]

Looks good? @tropic summit

[coarse solstice]

Good to know! Thanks for the heads up. 😄

[covert lintel]

if the opponent high invest in their b3
T2 will lose, because u put rh in p3(should been p4) and blanc will give her burst to rh. this from my exp fighting sbs using the very same team as yours.

T3 total defeat if that was Thelm

[tropic summit]

remind me your box natsu, we gonna need to tailor your teams a bit better here.

T2 needs to have p1 defender taunter + biscuit, it denies their damage, you could run a 4RL emi with that in mind, example:

moran biscuit emi rh crown

[tropic summit]

T3 can run a faster 2RL scarlet nuke, you'll kill helmT due to elem weakness and focus will be killing rapu in p2, it will prevent cindy B3

since iirc you don't have noah, that's probably ur safer bet

[tropic summit]

1 job is enough

[tropic summit]

@robust lodge as Rheax said, it's not that bad that you need to pay us, just post your box here with nikke ordered by strength, then we can take it from there

[tropic summit]

helmT stage 2 s10?

found this message but not sure if you ever specified skill 1 lvl

[wise horizon]

7 10 7

[tropic summit]

oh oke it will do

[crystal flicker]

10 10 1

[tropic summit]

run this then, ensure you're not 15,4% deficit

[crystal flicker]

bro really ditch ScarJack

[wise horizon]

Thanks. Think the guy finally broke through my defense as he just leveled to 401 😦

[tropic summit]

CP boost

[crystal flicker]

Imo under 20% is kinda acceptable with buffs

I love running ScarJack under deficit

[coarse lake]

that relies on their team being bad

[crystal flicker]

Can't argue with that, I can't even remember their comp anymore

[minor kestrel]

Hey rail you put centi in team 1 and 2

[tropic summit]

centi in scarlet team is interchangable with noir/rumani/anis/xmaiden, use whoever is higher CP

[minor kestrel]

Also noise is in 2 and 3

[sleek root]

Change 1 nikke in my team for CP padding and i won He probably got killed with Normal attack by LaplaceT/MaidenX. CP deficit hurts

[tropic summit]

that noise in t1 should've been liter, seems like copy paste was fun that day

rest should be fine

[minor kestrel]

Ty so much

[tropic summit]

no problem in fact my bad, missed a few paste over

fixed version:

[minor kestrel]

My scarlet seems to die pretty quickly for team 2

[tropic summit]

noir has higher atk% than scarlet?

[minor kestrel]

Yeah lol

[tropic summit]

jackal linked units are the 1st and 2nd highest atk%

welp there you go

[minor kestrel]

Unfortunately my noir had cracked rolls

[tropic summit]

emilia and laplace happen to have less atk% than her by any chance?

because we can probably swap them around

if emilia lower atk% than scarlet, noir goes in T1 instead of emi and emi goes in T2 instead of noir

[minor kestrel]

Yes they both are less than scarlet

[tropic summit]

alrighty let's go with that

[minor kestrel]

Thanks

[tropic summit]

oh looks like it won't be that simple tho

burst gen on T1 won't be enough then

and we don't want an SG in T3 if possible

[crystal flicker]

ditch liter

[tropic summit]

we gonna have to ditch a 2RL rather

unless running unbuffed cindy

lacking rumani

[minor kestrel]

I can put X Anne instead of noir?

[tropic summit]

@minor kestrel

run this for now, once rumani is found can promote cindy to 2RL or restore previous HelmT + la+ 2RL team

[minor kestrel]

Or anis/x maiden

[tropic summit]

or ye, with xmaiden it works too

as long as it doesn't tank CP

you've got 2 variations to run, even better

if one starts failing, change to the other

[minor kestrel]

Ty so much

[tropic summit]

s.anis in T3 can be replaced with rapu for non feeding and extra heal/stall

again, as long as CP doesn't tank

[tropic summit]

[minor kestrel]

Biscuit is in t1 and t3

The X maiden variation tanks cp 😦

And the X maiden variation has noise in t1 and t3 😅

[whole pawn]

[tropic summit]

whichever team tanks CP just run auto until you've rumani

or you've invested better

considering what you've right now and what you could invest toward to, i'd then suggest a 2RL cindy, a standard scarlet and a stall team

can't go wrong with investing on the units above, as they're reused in many variations or archetypes

let alone specific counters

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-food-aesthetic-gif-22271399

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/yuru-camp-laid-back-camp-anime-camp-camping-gif-13733401

[crystal flicker]

Everytime I see YuruCamp, I always think that I want to go camping someday lol

[tropic summit]

expensive and takes time and preparation, also knowledge

possibly needs to go with ppl too

[upper grove]

I made a whale opening/buy more boxes

[crystal flicker]

Solo camp
And that's also why I never go camping lmao

[upper grove]

Suddenly 6 lvl spike outta nowhere. Dude is 2 ch behind main campaign, 6 in hard campaign. Def bought some. I've been min maxing core dust boxes since I started

[crystal flicker]

Looks cool though

I've learned to make peace with whale in my bracket

Though C4 and 5 keeps attacking me lmao

[upper grove]

I just like provoking them

If that makes them spend more SU gets some easy money

[strong hull]

@lunar dirge i need uhhh your crown sac

[shell hazel]

for my useful supports I don't mind getting to SR-5 but I use her for solo raids with rouge, so going from R-0 made sense

[strong hull]

Team

[shell hazel]

was just hoping for a quick R-5 before chilling. game had other ideas as my next 2 failed as well lol. 15 tries at 20% and all fail

[quick lake]

Eventually we’ll have SR5 doll surplus… eventually

[shell hazel]

using my selector for doll to move SBS to SR-5 then my next mats were going there for SR-10 on her

my sp-arena bracket been busy overnight, guy in 2nd went from level 258 => 262 in one night

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

[quick lake]

Must be the 1-11 hard mode core dust

[upper grove]

That name and flora, could it be

Low cp suddenly in top 10

[whole pawn]

maybe 2)k gems is enough xd, dunno if 2.1 is possible

[tropic summit]

CP boost 261, maybe he goin' bully you harder

[upper grove]

I'll wait for 1-11 hm and maybe I have enough for 301

Nihilister mald, then get stuck at MW

[quick lake]

Isnt it out already

Just buy attempts and farm

[upper grove]

Only if you already buy attempts, otherwise 2 resets

[shell hazel]

it is, it's a bit under 2 levels of core dust I think

so doesn't really explain going up 4 levels, guy been motoring along for a while so don't think they been reserving cd boxes either

[upper grove]

If I buy resets now I'm wasting 6 attempts of boxes

[quick lake]

But buying now, vs 2 days later dont make a difference

[shell hazel]

it doesn't make a difference I agree

all attempts either unlock a new level (one you not done yet) or they repeat 1-11

I used mine to jump 248 - 250, so a ways off 261 still

[upper grove]

Guess I can do it. Or just wait 10 hours

[umbral crown]

He is bricked like echo its fine

[lunar dirge]

why tho

Crown rapu s.anis Rosa naga

[upper grove]

It's not that bad

[umbral crown]

You sure,?

[swift mango]

Defend, I just jump 3 levels. People had some saved and just remember to open them all because of hard mode.

[upper grove]

If I'm still able to fight whales I think I'm in a comfortable position

[swift mango]

Do you have Emi?

[covert lintel]

still 10k core per level?

[upper grove]

No my bracket started 1st EVA collab. If CA dumps everything together I have a problem w/o sanis or Emilia

[covert lintel]

sanis just 3months left

[upper grove]

Hopefully need her for cindy buffing as well

Srossana and s sakura guaranteed instead

[shell hazel]

yeah I just been keeping track of em and don't think they're saving as they jumped a bunch of levels recently

[umbral crown]

Sanis had a 2nd rerun, im not sure she gonna do it this year

[wanton island]

what does it mean when an account is bricked?

[strong hull]

[tropic summit]

generally skipped relevant banners that won't likely rerun or took long brakes and lost on progression

[swift mango]

11k starting 351

[umbral crown]

Or just refuse to open boxes

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

catching up on progression is especially detrimental

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor

[umbral crown]

[wanton island]

because everyone else already completed it?

[tropic summit]

e.g. someone taking a month brake will take a huge progression loss compared to others who logged in daily

[covert lintel]

i'm 14k here

[tropic summit]

less mats, less books, less income

less dolls, less resources

[swift mango]

So 1k more every 50 levels.

[wanton island]

that makes sense. still weird to call it "bricked" though 🤣

when i think bricked, i think all is lost. no hope. its cooked

[tropic summit]

well for rankings it kinda is all loss

[wanton island]

i guess in pvp they would be though

[tropic summit]

as they won't catch up unless out spending

and even that may take time

[wanton island]

yeah. no way to catch up ever

[tropic summit]

mhm

and definitly not worth it either

might aswell just start from scratch on equal footing

[wanton island]

i didnt think about how taking a month long break would screw your chances in pvp like that

[tropic summit]

mostly due to CP requirements

missing 1 banner may not be so impactful, but a month break sure is

[wanton island]

are banners that important?

i thought they were purely cosmetic

im thinking titles, sorry

[swift mango]

Emi

[tropic summit]

yeah banners as in limited characters

[swift mango]

Well, I level up regularly but it's still 3 levels. 4 levels aren't so farfetch to get without spending. But who knows...

[tropic summit]

collabs in particular are pretty wild because of a very tiny chance of rerun if none at all

for example nier and CSM never got reruns

eva is the first example with a rerun

[swift mango]

There may not be a rerun though, like with xAnne.

[wanton island]

stellar blade is also another one i heard of that is coming

[swift mango]

It's from the same company so we could pray for Collab characters to be permanent.

Capcom does that lots in their games. Honkai Impact got permanent Collab characters from other Hoyo games as well.

[swift mango]

Well, if you left for 2 months then you have no hope for Arena top 10. Unless ded bracket or opening your wallet.

[astral kayak]

when emi re-run?

[swift mango]

If you wanted Emi for the sake of collection, you could buy an account. That's the surefire way

[astral kayak]

against tos here m8

delete it before u get warn

[swift mango]

Well, I'm not selling account or link you to any site, just an advice.

[astral kayak]

up to you, I just letting you know the mod here has no mercy on stuff like this lol

seen before someone post stuff like this and went poof

[swift mango]

Not sure what they posted so can't take reference.

[unique mountain]

Never figured you for a snowflake

[astral kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/re-zero-emilia-cute-gif-13004992718181121961

[unique mountain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1332018768511107083/1341566257496981594/1739913093390328.gif

[crystal flicker]

Shion is gone...

[astral kayak]

I dun follow her lol I know though

I am more a vspo guy

[sleek root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/946720097031045161/1215569715322159104/axszQ8x14-1kqgZ2lT3cShs-dc-ezgif.com-added-text_1.gif

[polar bolt]

Any recommendations against this set up? I've been kinda walled by him for a couple of days now

This is what I'm working with

[sleek root]

Scar/Blanc/Flex(Rapunzel if possible, Rosanna also work if she's built)/Centi/Jackal for team 1
Noah/Cindy/Biscuit/HelmT/Noise i guess for team 2

[glad meteor]

A similar team 2 lost earlier

[sleek root]

It might work, thats what i would use if it was me, in the end not sure about your nikke investments.

[glad meteor]

.

[crystal flicker]

Watame cooking

[sleek root]

If team 2 is to much trouble, i would go for Team 3 with
Noah/Emilia/HelmT/RH/Flex

[polar bolt]

Yea I tried that team 2 before, though I had Noise first, I don't have that video, but becasically she bursts before getting sniped by Rosanna
The issue is blanc indoms scarlet and then she solos the team

[glad meteor]

I was thinking

Noah biscuit helmt xmaiden noise for t2

[quick lake]

Yeah, snipe link

[glad meteor]

Otherwise need to tank the ros hit with scalter

[crystal flicker]

tbh T3 more realistic if you can time Noah

[quick lake]

P1 Cindy + Noah 4RL against T3

[crystal flicker]

Since Cindy burst got fixed, well timed Noah can counter her easily

[sleek root]

Hmm? How come Noah isn't tanking his Scarlet with Biscuit 5sec x2 invuilnerability? Your team isn't getting nuke in the 1st place

[glad meteor]

That bum cindy stole biscuit s2 because of counter

[sleek root]

And your CIndy should prob took 4 of them

[sleek root]

MOve her to the 3rd slot maybe i guess
Noah/Biscuit/Cindy/HelmT/Noise

[tropic summit]

multiple approaches for this one, the point here is that:

-T1 is mid tier burst and you need to safeguard p1 and p5 (2 SGs)
-T2 is promoted to at least 2.5RL, would need 2RL commitment
-T3 just got to block cindy nuke, that's their main source of damage, afteward you can just outdps while eating moran and noah stalling

[quick lake]

T1: Scar Jack
T2: Skip
T3: Cindy Noah Biscuit 4RL

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-food-aesthetic-gif-22271399

[glad meteor]

She was in p3, the counter happens regardless of position

[crystal flicker]

Everytime someone's cooking I'll send this

[glad meteor]

Would need high CS on helmt

Their team is 2-2.4 RL

Because of feed

[tropic summit]

^

[quick lake]

double feed close to 2rl

[glad meteor]

Rapunzel wouldn’t even work here

Considering they’re no 2 RL

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/steal-doro-gif-1027805425862452031

[tropic summit]

change, you want atk% on cindy

you only missing elem. atk on line 1

line 2 and line 3 are ok

[shell hazel]

I need to fix my SBS and it hurts thinking about it lol

and Blanc needs to stop hoarding all my doll mats

the max ammo on the boots is actually line 3 not line 2 I think

but 3 max ammo rolls, and only 10% ele, and it's not cost me 0 rocks so far, maybe 20 or so, and I only saw ele once or twice, and never off line 1

[strange linden]

can't believe i'm losing to someone who put this as a def comp

[tropic summit]

CP diffed?

[strange linden]

yeah the two other teams are alright but got quite a lot of CP

trying some comp to beat it without getting cp diff, scarlet one is probably a no go for me

[covert lintel]

just put jackal and some nuker

[strange linden]

yeah the first one is a given with scarlet/jackal, manage to beat the cindy team with the moran/helm comp I showed too

[tropic summit]

peculiar though that you're getting cp gapped on just 18 level difference

i can still hit opponents 55 levels ahead of me

get 4 pieces with 3 ol lines on all of your pvp core units

R15 or SR5 doll

and possibly cubes above lvl 5-7

[swift mango]

Your attack team must look even worse.

[swift mango]

My CN whale entering 50 level difference and 3 tiers of level difference from me but his spa only 2m. The Gemmer dude just 1 level tier difference from me, same lv tier as you, nearly 1.9m even if he cp pad.

OL padding is huge.

[strange linden]

some of my pvp units aren't that invested yeah (or more like aren't lucky on the OL stats for cp padding), still this guy has unusually high cp even when compared to the other lvl501 opponents I've met

[tropic summit]

that's investiment difference then, the lad is a bit more serious than you on pvp

you can still fix that tho, just invest in your utilities and core units

the only thing that is hard to fix is lvl gap, but in ur case it's pretty mild

[strange linden]

I wish we can get more doll exp so I can use it for pvp units too

[tropic summit]

yeah true that, SR is here at least, soon you can stock up

[swift mango]

Well, I'm having daily looks at lv501-521 brackets of my guildmates. That's guy you are attacking indeed has a good investment on Arena. Not unreasonable high but high.

[strange linden]

it will probably all go to one unit like how it was with THelm

[swift mango]

I guess you only need the 501 boost to beat it.

[strange linden]

good thing he's not near to lvl521, I'll manage to stay under 20lvl of gap until the next bracket shift

[woven haven]

Can I get some advice for team build for SP arena?

[wicked horizon]

I'm so glad I have someone to fight with in SPA. Now neither of us will reach Challenger.

Can I DM them somehow?
I feel that after 2 weeks of exclusively attacking only each other, we could see eye to eye.

[tropic summit]

the secret is to not fight those you can't defend against, but those you can

ignore and play in times they're not online

[wicked horizon]

I can't defend against anyone.

[tropic summit]

then that's your real problem

[sleek root]

Depends i guess, i still got a grudge at the guy who started attacking only me after the last reshuffle.

[wicked horizon]

Well, my resources are going into PvP, and I can't make it faster.

[tropic summit]

ein blanc rh noir jackal
noah biscuit alice bsoda rumani
auto

wishilist/build: noise, centi, helm treasure, cinderella, SBS (get reiT as pseudo scarlet)

[woven haven]

Wow this is phenomenal, thank you so much

[woven haven]

Is that team, build the same I should use for defense as well?

Also I'm realizing I don't have blanc for that first team, so I'll need to sub her for someone else

[fallen moat]

newbie here looking for advice or direction (wishlist got some pvp nikke that just are hiding from me so far like Scarlet, Centi, Noise, Moran, Rumani, Rapunzel)

Rookie Arena seems to be no issue in my brackets.

SP Arena switching positions rather wildly in top 4. I can beat #1 and #1 can beat me without issues.

I've added my current def setup and my available nikke.

All Nikke except the PVE ones (Crown, Liter, Red Hood, RRH, SBS, Alice) have no skill upgrades or the likes

Thank you everyone in advance

[tropic summit]

can use anchor:IM for blanc replacement until you find her

yes those teams are for defense, attack should be tailored based on your opponent

[woven haven]

Ty

[tropic summit]

those teams are a bit weird, can definitely improve them

is helm treasured reached stage 2 and s1 lvl 10 or 7?

[fallen moat]

not yet treasure

[woven haven]

Any advice on where to start doing some reading to learn how to tailor my offense to my opponent?

[tropic summit]

sure, start with this:

https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

recommend also getting familiar with the upper meta rankings

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R6qzhnPx85kEoYidYUs-K0hJy61APMQGj5nRSgdvRUU/edit?gid=0#gid=0

the keripo nikke pvp tier list below gives you a rough idea of usage

for the top meta nikke

[quick lake]

#pvp-arena message
Can reference these teams and you can see a common thread(s). There are certain team "archetypes". Each archetype is essentially either a "rock", "paper" or "scissors". So its just advanced rock papers scissors

[woven haven]

Wow, much more to this than I expected. Lunch break reading it is lol. Ty

[tropic summit]

yeah pvp per se is rather simple, but can get a bit more complicated if you want to aim on higher ranks

for the most part 2-3 archetypes can get you far if not already lower challenger

[dire root]

Ok, I knew the pilgrim was a healer I didn't know she could out heal red hoods burst III without a deficit

like holy shit just die

[glad meteor]

Noir has indom

[dire root]

indom?

[glad meteor]

She can’t die for 10s

Blanc burst

[dire root]

Oh so she is a better noah?

[crystal flicker]

You're too slow

[glad meteor]

Situational

[dire root]

Yeah I didn't want Asuka but I needed her to avoid defict, this is rookie so it doesn't really matter anyways

[crystal flicker]

What I see is, Rapunzel revived Noir and Blanc gave Noir Indom

[dire root]

I didn't realize their burst was crazy enough to avoid death like that, I assumed noah was the main way who made nikkes immune. My burst did fire first, noah did shield me and red hoods burst 3 fired, what I was expecting was red hood to wipe everyone out while protected by noah.

This did no happen.

[crystal flicker]

Instead of RH, you should just use AoE nuke

It will kill Rapunzel and friends easily, probably left 1 Nikke with Indom

[dire root]

I suffer in PvP for investing heavily into red hood and Asuka which are not ideal PvP units.

awesome PvE though lol

[dire root]

RH is probably needed to avoid deficit.

[crystal flicker]

Either way you need to ditch one of them for AoE, you can use RH for buff damage

[dire root]

Unless red hood rapi could be used, doesn't her burst III have a area of effect burst?

but not a screen clear

[crystal flicker]

low gen

[swift mango]

Can't def when my CP is lowered with CS reroll and my enemies have the level and CP to just auto team me.

[dire root]

RH is also low gen but I still fired first

[crystal flicker]

RH has pierce

and Noah Rumani Noir carried your gen

[dire root]

Wait her piece works in PvP lol

[crystal flicker]

Best way is to ditch Asuka for AoE

[crystal flicker]

She can shot through cover PvP yes

[dire root]

Rumani is such a tank

[dire root]

The problem is combat power lol

[quick lake]

Yeah, pre-200 sync pvp is kinda wonky

Just throw in some key units, auto the rest and pray it works

[dire root]

I just looked at their level, no wonder I'm struggling to match them in combat power

[crystal flicker]

54,700 CP to avoid deficit

[sleek root]

21.3% deficit Thats like 35% Stat penalty, oof

[dire root]

Yeah this may not be possible

[crystal flicker]

No dolls yea

[dire root]

I need to avoid deficit but also be a bit faster then them in burst to avoid them tanking the nuke.

[crystal flicker]

Just do SR and keep upgrade those dolls

[swift mango]

Try catch up is campaign first

[crystal flicker]

That 2

[polar bolt]

But for fun I made a team using a variation of what you said here and that did work lol

[polar bolt]

So I gave it a shot and unfortunately didn't work

[glad meteor]

HelmT stronk

[polar bolt]

So I should have him today at reset, I appreciate everyone's help, this is the only person on my server who actually tries PVP so I have fun even if he makes my head hurt lol

[quick lake]

Against that Cindy team, can try:
Cindy Rumani Blanc Biscuit RH

[polar bolt]

I can for sure try at reset, I'll make a note of it
For my understanding, is Cindy there just to get Biscuit's invul? Because Cindy in P1 would increase his burst gen no?

[quick lake]

Yeah. Abit uncommon, but we can use Cindy in P1 to make the opponent 2RL. Biscuit invulns Rumani and Blanc. Then we wait for Noah's shield to wear off before nuking the opponent

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Are u level bricked comparing to others in your bracket or just started investing to Arena recently?

[dim warren]

What the sercet to a gud pvp team

Also im level bricked is it even worth trying

[crystal flicker]

1. Reading

Depend on how bricked

If you're playing for a long time, might as well learn PvP and you'll catch up to diamond sooner or later

[pale knoll]

Why now of all times? 👀

[solid flare]

I have a question about Mana and her relevence to PVP

[dim warren]

Is all mochi fault

[pale knoll]

What did he tell you?

[dim warren]

He say pvp is easy free gems

Oh also he say u just need gud teams

[pale knoll]

Well, easy if you are not bricked nor with whales

[dim warren]

🤔

I do feel pretty brick

[umbral crown]

As bricked as echo

[pale knoll]

What's your sync compared to top 10?

[crystal flicker]

400

[dim warren]

Top 10 around 3.2m me just 1.6m

And that is with cp padding throwing random units in

🤣

[pale knoll]

Yeah you are cooked

What about top 30?

[dim warren]

Top 30 is 2.1m

[pale knoll]

That's more achievable. What's your sync?

[dim warren]

370

[pale knoll]

Hoarding core dust boxes?

[dim warren]

No?

Ermm maybe because i didnt optimized my team propeely

[pale knoll]

Werent you similar sync to one of my accounts not so long ago?

I'm 396 there rn

[keen vapor]

Oi

[dim warren]

I was stuck in mw for a month

Maybe 2?

[keen vapor]

Same

[pale knoll]

Where at now?

[crystal flicker]

Rare PvP MA Appeared!

[dim warren]

24 34 that one is so cursed

[umbral crown]

[pale knoll]

No wonder you are so behind progress, I'm here rn

361 at ch27h

[umbral crown]

Your cp, show

[dim warren]

[dire root]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-hank-walter-screaming-walter-yelling-gif-26473309

[dim warren]

Im just a chill guy

Campaign too hard

Also is christmas anne a must for pvp?

[pale knoll]

Not really a must but it's nice to have. Especially with champions arena coming up

[keen vapor]

Don't want to :pepeh:

[umbral crown]

Tell me then

361 is like 1.8m

[quiet fiber]

What team should I use against this comp?

[tropic summit]

let emilia cast B3 against noah on 1RL slower

[umbral crown]

Rosanna

[quiet fiber]

Cries in 4/4/4

[tropic summit]

just run this, he's doing you a favour making it 2RL emi nuke

can run 3RL noah

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

s.anis will have fun time with 2 water code to hit

emilia on def is ridicolous, while emilia on atk makes def teams pointless

(unless CP padding to oblivion)

[pale knoll]

Emilia on def is just a battery anyways

Free win otherwise

[quiet fiber]

Understood. Thanks.

[tropic summit]

you're expecting something like this

keep in mind example in vid is 4RL vs 3RL, in your case it will be 3RL vs 2RL

[quiet fiber]

Thanks for the visual. That helps a lot to explain things.

[umbral crown]

Yes but

When RH

[keen vapor]

1.6

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Bricked even on cp

[keen vapor]

Yes

[umbral crown]

Sunc 335

[keen vapor]

Is 9 1.69

Almost 7

[umbral crown]

341 boost and will be a bit more than 1.7

A chance to fight the whale

[keen vapor]

They whaled you

[umbral crown]

Wiej is 362

Cp.issues as well

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

How to increase Noah CP

[umbral crown]

Max doll and good lines with cores

My noah is 110k

[keen vapor]

TELL THE TRUTH

[umbral crown]

4/4/4

Could be higher with max skills

[whole shell]

Dupes and doll

SR15 doll does wonders

[keen vapor]

[whole shell]

Only got about 8 shabby lines but my noah is among my highest cp units

[quiet fiber]

The team worked beautifully

[minor kestrel]

Who can I replace Rumani for at this time until I get her?

[dire root]

Yeah wow, that team is insanely strong, even Rei nuke firing first wasn't enough

no deficit either

barely dented

probably just not possible without combat power advantage or Cindy.

perhaps Privaty would have been a better burst III for the stun.

instead of Rei burst not doing anything

[whole shell]

rei requires buffers

[dire root]

Damn she is high maintenance

[whole shell]

the other team is... fine, but easily counterable provided you have the correct units

[dire root]

Fine? It's a tank of a team that becomes immune if it's burst activates

and I found out that even burst III nukes don't put a dent in them.

I need like deficit advantage in order to actually do real damage it seems

[tropic summit]

yep, about what expected, good job

[whole shell]

it's not fast, and any st b3 can be countered by biscuit + taunting defender

honestly I thought the team would've been 4RL at least, but it seems like it's slower than I thought

[dire root]

Didn't need to be fast, just tanky enough to survive for their burst.

which it was

[tropic summit]

run a slower team with liter

or keep a faster team with pepper

[dire root]

Maybe I should have just filled my team with attackers to DPS them down

[whole shell]

post your roster

[dire root]

I need to rethink placing Rei T in teams from now on

[whole shell]

there's likely a team you can make with your units that can defeat it

what was your investment on reiT anyway?

[dire root]

4/4/4

[whole shell]

way too weak

[dire root]

It's not worth heavy investment into PvP units at this level

[whole shell]

plus you have no buffers whatsoever, of course reiT wouldn't do any damage

[dire root]

So she is a high investment unit to be of use?

[whole shell]

reiT isn't just a pvp unit, she forms a wind team with asuka

it just so happens that when invested she's a sidegrade option for b3 aoe nukers

[dire root]

Elemental damage seems like cope, red hood all the way.

[whole shell]

honestly you probably could've just bursted down the team with red hood

blanc + biscuit isn't immune to st b3, especially not against snipers who target from P5 > P1

[dire root]

Already tried that, their burst activated and they tanked the whole thing without a single memeber dying, though that attempt didn't have anis.

[dire root]

This account has had 411 pulls btw.

I considered dropping this account a few times

from bad luck streaks

[keen vapor]

There's no jackal :deadge:

[whole shell]

tch

[keen vapor]

No Biscuit either
No reviver either

[whole shell]

Noah/RH/Noir/Anis/Rumani

[dire root]

I was so close to dropping this account but pulling rapi red hood stopped me

[keen vapor]

Tia/Noah/RH/noir.... Oh

[whole shell]

don't know if that'll work because anis and noir have low cp

but noir slight bufffer + rh b1 and b3

[covert lintel]

i cooked a funny meme team

[whole shell]

rumani taunts pressure away from P1/P2

[keen vapor]

When full burst is up

[whole shell]

well, yes

[keen vapor]

[whole shell]

quantum doesn't work on helm iirc

but hm

interesting

that's actually pretty scary

[dire root]

Was that team even beatable with my rooster and needing RH to close the deficit?

[whole shell]

the idea is to burst as fast as possible with some buffers too in order to increase the chance of killing their units

[keen vapor]

I wonder whether or not jackal will heal trough link

[dire root]

That's the idea, but does bursting faster then them even matter if the burst doesn't hurt them a lot? Red hood would need to burst way before them in order to be given the time needed to kill them.

[keen vapor]

However, Privaty ammo cut won't be enough for Summer anis

[covert lintel]

jackal will heal, through helm burst

[keen vapor]

Oh

[swift mango]

The problem is no protection. Any 2rl team with protection would beat yours. Lots of feeds too.

[covert lintel]

it's fine, every ordinary team(for defense) isn't work anyway, so i just cooked a stupid-looking team

[whole shell]

if your dps aren't putting out damage you need to invest in them more

the team should be at least 2.5RL, likely 2RL which is much faster than the enemy team

[minor kestrel]

What teams are ppl running in rookie arena

[keen vapor]

Me? A bad one

[whole shell]

depends on your units

[wicked horizon]

Oh yeah, I'm definitely level bricked.
I'd say average 20-30 levels below others in Challenger.
There's a couple only ~10 levels ahead, but then also some, I can only assume, giga-whale who's over 70 levels ahead.

[dire root]

I have made a grave error when putting together this team, but it does not matter, despite there being no combat advantage my team some how won easily.

[shell hazel]

there is precisely zero co-ordination on the opponent team

[whole shell]

...yeah

it's horrible

non-bursting blanc

[shell hazel]

you actually have something there lol..

is sr anis burst 1? been a while

[whole shell]

b2

[shell hazel]

ok so we lack a b1

you have no b1 so yeah they failed even more but you still failed 😄

[dire root]

How do you manage to fail more then forgetting a b1?

that is kind of impressive.

[shell hazel]

well they lost so by definition they failed more 🙂

sub a b1 in for Drake and you had a functional team at least

Red Hood would work there if this is just rookie arena?

she'll boost Scarlet atk as well and cover all burst bases if needed

[keen vapor]

Huh? That Scar is not linked..... And Cindy is on P2

I'm the one who needs help

[unique mountain]

Hope someone gives us teams before reset

[unique mountain]

Bruh u ain't beating that deficit

[keen vapor]

Try
SBS Blanc Centi Rumani jackal for round 1

Noah noise Anis Cindy Helm and choose the slowest team

[unique mountain]

If no one else suggests anything in an hour , i will

[keen vapor]

If that guy has no CS on Noah team it probably is the slowest

But risky RNG

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Suggest me how to CP pad

[pale knoll]

T1 noise noah cindy helmtr rumani
T3 blanc emi rh biscuit centi

[keen vapor]

I may be stupid

[keen vapor]

[pale knoll]

[keen vapor]

[pale knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/peepocomfy-peepo-comfy-cozy-blanket-gif-24439687

[keen vapor]

I'm baka

[sleek root]

[unique mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-asuka-night-memes-evangelion-gif-9699738

[lunar pawn]

any team tips vs this team? Noah / Noise / Biscuit / Jackal / SAnis comp

consider no emilia available

[lunar dirge]

Scar blanc rh centi jacksl against his team 3(sanis), Noah noise SBS biscu rumani against team 1(cindy rh)

[eager mountain]

3-rl sacc
Gtg

[lunar dirge]

try mine

[unique mountain]

Only had one attack

[pale knoll]

What in the fragile is that emi

[lunar dirge]

gem

[unique mountain]

Do not tag me again

[pale knoll]

As long as she survived, she got indom and everyone dead

[lunar dirge]

ok lil' bro

[pale knoll]

Not sr15 emi I pressume

[pale knoll]

How you doing

[lunar dirge]

I don't trust blanc emi in killing s.Anis anymore, mine is lacking to pull it off

[keen vapor]

now mine

[lunar dirge]

Fine

[keen vapor]

Oh....

[pale knoll]

My emi works good against that comp always, but it depends on investment ig

[lunar dirge]

meh, too lazy to invest in her for now, still have maids to build

[pale knoll]

It do be like that

Just auto for top 0.5% and dip

[lunar dirge]

I'm aiming for top 200

Nowadays

[pale knoll]

This wind raid?

[lunar dirge]

Nope, this one is skip due to weak maids

I'm talking about the one after that

(Coping it's iron weak)

I don't have shelm

But every single iron dos except sw is decently built

So I have my hopes up

[pale knoll]

Good luck

[lunar pawn]

how's sbs aoe/splash damage when she's taunted?

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Bad against me

Useless when I use it

[lunar pawn]

so noah+biscuit shuts her down?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[keen vapor]

[whole shell]

yes

munch should have a post in pins explaining how dist. dmg works

4th pin down

[lunar pawn]

so what's a good team vs it?

scarlet centi RH trhelm jackal maybe?

[keen vapor]

Not bricked

[lunar pawn]

best team would be emilia imo but no emilia here yet

[whole shell]

against noah/biscuit?

[lunar pawn]

Noah / Noise / Biscuit / Jackal / SAnis

[whole shell]

choices are to either out-speed or to sustain

[lunar pawn]

sustain is the safest choice I think

[whole shell]

that's... what, 2.5RL?

lemme check

[lunar pawn]

isn't it 2RL? didn't check

otherwise...noah noise trhelm rapunzel laplace?

[whole shell]

it's 3RL

[lunar pawn]

oh you meant the enemy team

[whole shell]

huh, thought it would've been faster

s.anis in p5 is... interesting

I had an intrusive thought that wanted to cook some type of weird sht to burst down s.anis in p5 with rh or alice along with scarjack but that's too much

2RL scarjack should be just fine

[lunar pawn]

no good

that team lost 3 times

[whole shell]

scar/blanc/centi/helmT/jackal? I'm assuming helmT is 10/10/x here

[lunar pawn]

worked, cheers

[whole shell]

Nice

[lunar pawn]

lost on auto but won on full play

[whole shell]

Auto can be weird sometimes

So whenever I'm unsure I just do manual

[covert lintel]

lol he fall for this

[lunar pawn]

doesn't scarlet+jackal eat that team up?

[covert lintel]

idk, i just setup for defense

cause any usual team will not work

[limber patrol]

is this tool counting on Jackal feed?

[covert lintel]

no

[limber patrol]

so this team 3RL?

[covert lintel]

idk, i'm not an expert for that
wait for rail or rheax

[whole shell]

Is this an attack team?

Has to be

[limber patrol]

both attack and def

[torpid jetty]

How do I beat this?

[dire root]

What in the hell

Almost everything is limit broken

he has like 12 SR dolls

You miss spelled steam

go back to school

[covert lintel]

<@&946725432554836008>

[dire root]

He is pretty poor though

he doesn't even have a fully limit broken crown

I mean imagine being that poor

[limber patrol]

how much dmg does Helm do to a jackal with 2 links?

[lunar pawn]

wouldn't count on helm as a reliable nuke, plus she's ST

[dire root]

I can take 3rd or 2nd I think, but should I just save my attempts and wait to see if I drop a rank? Well when I drop a rank.

[covert lintel]

with 7k% all jackal link will die

[tough elm]

Hellu Party People. Can someone please have a look at my current team and recommend good upgraes/changes? I suck on team building, especially in pvp

[polar bolt]

Gave it a shot, that specific comp was still a little too fast, Noah was still active, but at least I got him

[tropic summit]

T1 OK
T2 tia in p1
T3 3 SGs

you can probably do way better

[tropic summit]

helmT treasured? stage 2 and s1 lvl 10 or lvl 7?
laplace treasured?
noah isn't out of synch you just don't have her right?

[tough elm]

I do not have any treasured nikke now. im close to get the first step for helm treasure but still need some days for the bonding. same for laplcase. and yus i still do not have noah

[tropic summit]

oof oke

let's see what can be arranged

[whole pawn]

man why randoms with Japanese names taking the lead in my bracket

I can't even chal 9 at this point

[keen vapor]

Rail

[eager mountain]

Rail

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind rumani noir
scarlet blanc rh xmaiden jackal
auto

notes: wishlist/build asap noah and noise, get helm treasure, can consider laplace+ and rosanna

[onyx scaffold]

Her nuke can be taunted

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor @eager mountain

my rocks RNG is absolute garbage send an ambulance or an exorcist or both

[keen vapor]

Rail, I'm dumb

[tropic summit]

28 total wasted rocks on cindy

not a single f elem. atk line

worst RNG i've had in 10+ months i'm playing

not even alice ammo OL took so long

[eager mountain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946720097031045161/1246967502919958528/GIF_20240602_225244_708.gif

doro sent doing her job

[tropic summit]

almost considering reporting it as a bug but i know it's just maths

ye but it's hurting me soon if it doesn't stop

[eager mountain]

28rolls and no elem or atk?

[tropic summit]

neither

no useful blue or black lines either

just pure 💩

[eager mountain]

28 FRESH rolls? no lock?

[tropic summit]

yes fresh no lock roll

[eager mountain]

jesus christ

[tropic summit]

28 with no locks or temp locks at all

literal 28 rerolls

[tough elm]

Many thanksies. Is my linep so bad tht i can not build a third team? Also i do have quantum cube on level 6 if that changes anything o.o

[whole pawn]

can i even beat him

[tropic summit]

yes we said yesterday it's a biscuit b2 not a bay b2

check what blood posted

[tropic summit]

yes it's kinda ugly, but can fix it if you find noah or finish helmT

[whole pawn]

idk this guy is chal 8 and i already used my first attempt to reach chal 10

[tropic summit]

you'd be able to make a pseudo stall team with helmT alone

you kinda need noise too tho

[whole pawn]

i m vulnerable anyway to everyone xd

[tough elm]

oki doki. helm with first treasure is only few days left

[tropic summit]

then save up and keep it to reclaim ch8 later

[tropic summit]

awesome, ping us again in this chat once u've her ready

[tough elm]

wait i do have noise

[keen vapor]

Rail, can I even beat him

[tropic summit]

we still lack noah tho

[whole pawn]

i might demote to diam before that

[tough elm]

yus yus but i will need to equip and skill them too so i can start with noise

[tropic summit]

sir, i've bad news for you

that seems to be utterly screwed.

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

unless you're hiding a stock of RD somewhere

[coarse lake]

this is echo we're talking about

[whole pawn]

the thing is i beilive in less than an hour i will demote to dia then when i will reclaim chal 10 i might demote later on because someone still has attenmpts

[coarse lake]

he's got at least 30 lvls worth stored

[eager mountain]

maybe not the most accurate mathematical estimate but this is damn cursed

[whole pawn]

looks like i belong in diamond

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor

[keen vapor]

21*

[tropic summit]

yes it is and it's absolutely shiet, it's like i've lost on 2-3 weeks of farm

[coarse lake]

in early jan you were 20 lvls behind me

[tropic summit]

ironically if i didn't touch the game today it would've been better

[shell hazel]

ouch, that really sucks, rng in general on rocks feels pretty meh, my SBS rolls not going that well either (though not as bad as yours here)

[keen vapor]

Is hard to count on 11k

[tropic summit]

i've had bad RNG, but not on 28 rerolls in a row

[coarse lake]

now it's 23 gap

[lunar pawn]

that too

[coarse lake]

[shell hazel]

and my blanc doll is still 🧱 I need more blue materials

[coarse lake]

did you buy out the shop retries yet

[tropic summit]

worst was alice on like 15 stones

cindy tring to double that at this point

[eager mountain]

average of s6-s7 kraken is 3 rocks per day, ofc counting the guranteed boxes
so yeah 9-10 days of rocks

[tropic summit]

oh oke this makes it feel a tad less worse then

although my last 2 burst day gave me 0 rocks aswell

(last 2 weeks)

[eager mountain]

yeah its like at least 4x the rock compared to SI lol

[keen vapor]

Yes, tbh I haven't done math after that, so maybe is 23 or 4 after all

[coarse lake]

ok then not too bad, gap should be more or less the same

[keen vapor]

I need to clear ch23

[coarse lake]

you're that far behind?

[keen vapor]

Btw Eon

Give me your blabla

[tropic summit]

join me on this beatiful cancerous stage

[keen vapor]

that stupid whale

[keen vapor]

[coarse lake]

why

[keen vapor]

I want to follow

[eager mountain]

i would like to stalk eon as well

[tropic summit]

let's all stalk eon

[eager mountain]

already stalking rail

[tropic summit]

when did that happen

[glad meteor]

I auto’d it yesterday. 383 slacking

[eager mountain]

a week ago i suppose

[keen vapor]

Or give me suggestions to CP pad my team

[glad meteor]

Roll 3 lines. Then reroll till black line

[keen vapor]

User set to private stalk me and tell me what to pad Eon

Rumani isn't it?

[coarse lake]

who dis

[tropic summit]

i'd run

[eager mountain]

what even does sye mean

[coarse lake]

gigastonk jp acc

[tropic summit]

might be a cute asian grill

wanting to get to know you

[keen vapor]

Not me

[coarse lake]

yeah I can tell from just this

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor getting burned no matter what

[eager mountain]

reverse hime

[keen vapor]

Biscuit-san

[tropic summit]

Chime-chan

my god this stage

[eager mountain]

farter farts

[tropic summit]

just give me mother whale or vulkan again instead

hell give me MC on 30% deficit

[coarse lake]

ah that stage

I uh.... bypassed it

went back and did it like 2 months later, even then it took a few tries

[tropic summit]

reasonable for your sanity

i could clear it, in fact i got very damn close it but it needs such huge RNG

1st cindy needs to hit the right targets
2nd RRH somehow has RNG on surviving 3 farts
3rd need to actually time a cover at least once

additionally, farters have RNG to walk outside of the zone or walk backward into it

which can give extra or less seconds

[eager mountain]

bet the cindy rng part

[tropic summit]

i swear that intern had something against the world

why can't RRH just survive

[eager mountain]

get ur mold rrh lb

[tropic summit]

[eager mountain]

honestly dont think imma get 36-37 after getting 541 in few days
helm only got 2 elem
and need to max anchor skills

[eager mountain]

u bursted with helm?

[keen vapor]

Hey, have you thought about.... Skipping it?

[tropic summit]

IT'S A CHOKEPOINT

[keen vapor]

There's a trick

[tropic summit]

cindy - helmt - cindy - helmt - cindy, to live

[tropic summit]

elaborate

[eager mountain]

ugh, yeah u can live but not enough dmg, rip

ur 25+ deficit so

[keen vapor]

Abuse how squads retreats

I think it works if you enter the stage

[tropic summit]

i've only gotten that to work once in my life in this game and i don't think it was even intended

how do you reliable do that

[keen vapor]

Try to get to the side each time