pvp-arena

[quick lake]

for pvp at least

Oh yes, s1 needs to stack 5 times i.e. shoot 5 times which by then pvp match is over/decided

[tropic summit]

ye looks good

[upper grove]

Laplace S1 stacking mainly relevant for her burst which you won't use in pvp anyway

[crystal flicker]

Rail is back

[upper grove]

Laser for missilis tower fun though

[crystal flicker]

La+ feels just for cp pad tbh

Her gen lower than clip rl

[quick lake]

@tropic summit what is ur timezone 👀

[tropic summit]

i just woke up

[upper grove]

She's pad and nukes the sht out of elec units imo

[quick lake]

Guessed so

[tropic summit]

about to start working from home

[upper grove]

At least in my bracket sub 300 I'm one of the few la+ users and she's doing so much dmg

[tropic summit]

actual work unfortunately, although from home it's much easier than when in the office

[crystal flicker]

Everyone working

[tropic summit]

can slack off a bit

[crystal flicker]

Just be developer, can slack entire day

[sudden drift]

does she help with charge speed?

[crystal flicker]

She can pierce, but I think her gen is mediocre in PvP

[sudden drift]

assuming like in PVE only one unit

[tropic summit]

ye CP is always something to consider when making teams

if it tanks CP, a meta team is worse than a padded one

keep it for when you can actually run it

[quick lake]

Nope not at all

[tame cedar]

Hey guys; I just got Biscuit from molds and I rearranged my sp arena teams. Are these viable? Do you have suggestions on who I can swap/etc.? Thanks!

[upper grove]

Tia delays burst by too much

[crystal flicker]

brick formation

[wise horizon]

Great thanks

[tame cedar]

would swapping her with Centi be a good idea?

[upper grove]

I wouldn't put cindy and scar in the same team, at least not for defense. Attack teams are always tailored to your opponent

Liter burst > jackal

You want your dps to get indom if possible so they can solo the team if everyone else dies. Except if you do something like Moran who can actually tank

[sudden drift]

@quick lake FML we starting a gem war from today onwards

miss the days of 2 attempts and ppl tap out

[tropic summit]

in your case it's a bit peculiar because you can't make a proper full fledged indom team with jackal yet, so we're running a copium kind with liter attempting indom together with SBS.

Since realistically you should be building SBS, jackal and liter may have less HP% than SBS anyway, so ensuring indom that way it's rather complicated, we're focusing on just getting p1 indommed so you've an unkillable p1 regardless

it's a temporary setting, once you're more invested and find more nikke that can be fixed better

[crystal flicker]

Try this:
Scarlet Blanc RedHood Jackal Noir
Noah Biscuit SAnis ScarletBS Rumani
Tia Rapunzel Centi Cindy Anis/Flex

assuming no deficit, should be able to get top 5

[upper grove]

Probably risk of dying

[tropic summit]

yes, if link is shared between SBS, liter and jackal, and SBS is lower HP among them, she will take priority during indom selection, hence she's fine in p1, liter in p3 or p4, jackal in p5

[upper grove]

As rail pointed out, if she's not guaranteed to get indom, not worth putting her in p1 if she can die

If she gets it 100% of the time go for it

[tropic summit]

to give you an easy example:

1. alice has self sustain if falling below a certain HP threshold, she'll inevitably have more hp than SBS and likely around same as jackal if not more
2. jackal has natural higher HP due to class type
3. SBS will have then less HP simply due to the above
4. blanc will land indom on SBS, as long as she survives 3RL

if anis is in p4, you can assume she'll be full HP on 3RL

unless opponent burts on 2RL or 2.5RL

[upper grove]

P3/4 are "safe positions" as long as there's no taunter next to them

[tropic summit]

yep, the TL;DR would be

p1 indom target and lowest MAX HP
p3 linked nikke (can enforce higher hp via vigor cube)
p5 jackal (can enforce higher hp via vigor cube, prefer quantum)

[sudden drift]

@quick lake @tropic summit these are guaranteed Ws right? the level of shenanigans this guy pulls

[tropic summit]

you're 21% cp deficit on third team

[past spear]

what teams should i make for sp arena

[crystal flicker]

You need to climb lmao

[quick lake]

Noah Centi RH Naga Tia
Moran Rupee Dolla Alice Asuka
Auto

[tame cedar]

Thank you! I'll try running this; unfortunately the top 8 players are at like over 200k above mine* but I appreciate the suggestion nonetheless hahaahah

I'm only really trying to stay within the top 30 for the 2k gems every 2 weeks

[past spear]

thanks

[crystal flicker]

200K/ team or 200K/3team?

[tame cedar]

latter

[crystal flicker]

/3 team? should be easy though

[tropic summit]

make ur teams weaker on purpose and the fight back

[tropic summit]

if you've huge point advantage, it's doable without actually losing your rank

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-suffering-from-success-this-so-cute-what-a-lovely-morning-oh-ma-gad-gif-11233135040670052230

[tame cedar]

the 800k cp total is my current defense team/prev attack team

[crystal flicker]

It's doable

I'm beating 1M with 800K

You can ask there if you doubt to attack

[crystal flicker]

This was few weeks ago

[strong hull]

@tropic summit

Need back up

[sleek root]

Curious, how painful is 21% cp deficit? (32% ish stat penalty ish)

Gotta hurt even on normal attack and, harder to kill with the stat buff

[quick lake]

Its roughly a free additional Blanc buff for the opponent

[upper grove]

Try it out

[quick lake]

Your attack is nerfed by 33%, that's like half a noise opponent buff
Your defence is nerfed, means free blanc buff from opponent

[upper grove]

My laplace+ kills ppl almost instantly with deficit

[sleek root]

LaplaceT normal attack Hurts! MaidenX too, so im guessing on huge deficit it hurts

[quick lake]

My opponent has some monster xmaiden that can 2-3 shot my units

[upper grove]

Yes, and deficit makes it hurt even more without bursting or buffing

[sudden drift]

then whats the CP i need to reach

[sudden drift]

she is a friggin tank

[upper grove]

Within 15.4% = no deficit penalty

[sudden drift]

ty

[sleek root]

The stat penalty really ramp-up every little % after that.

[jagged sedge]

So if there is more than two attackers, does rosanna use her burst on a random 2?

[tropic summit]

do we know if la+ is treasured here? i'm assuming it isn't on investiment at least

[sudden drift]

wish me luck. if he takes me out ill tip my hat off to him for being more committed

[strong hull]

Not a lap treasure

[sudden drift]

yolo

[swift mango]

21% is still winnable. But he could just avoid all that by using a CP pad unit instead of Centi.

Dude had level advantage and all.

[tropic summit]

rouge pepper cind anis noir
sbs blanc ein rumani jackal
auto

wishlist noah, centi, biscuit, get helmT

[jagged sedge]

@sudden drift why tia? Maybe centi?

[strong hull]

👌

[sudden drift]

the CP gap. lol i won t1 and t2 instead

wasted like an hour thinking about t3 only to get wrecked by helm

two hours. gonna stay off steam

[jagged sedge]

Oh gotcha

[swift mango]

are you playing another newer account?

[jagged sedge]

If there are 3 attackers does Rosanna's burst attack two of them randomly?

[swift mango]

She should be S now.

[sudden drift]

search this channel for "rosanna"... these guys were digging thru all the ins and outs on her yesterday

[swift mango]

Some of SS b3 in Prydwen tier list should move to S.

[swift mango]

2 with highest attack

[jagged sedge]

This guy has wasted 400 gems this season on me

[upper grove]

Winning 2 out of 3 is enough, better focus on that. 3rd team is whatever. Which is also the reason why attackers are favored

[sudden drift]

my t2 was argubaly my weakest so i didnt even consider the changes THEY made would give me the W

[tropic summit]

in depth targetting logic (taunt and no taunt, position and if attacker present):

#pvp-arena message

to answer your question is specific:

[swift mango]

Just need to CP gap them .

[upper grove]

Big stats = best defense

[sudden drift]

shh not while a certain someone is here

[upper grove]

Can't be hit of all teams are padding the bracket

[jagged sedge]

@tropic summit you are the man! So I just need to move tge order of them. I need scarlet to cast her burst

[tropic summit]

you deal with rosanna with defenders, not with attackers

p1 def p2 def p3 biscuit p4 b3 p5 flex

e.g.

noah rumani cind biscuit flex

rosanna will then shoot noah and rumani, which will be invulnerable due to biscuit

example with single attacker throaway (RH)

[swift mango]

Another day, another good haund.

I'm on a roll with dispatch lately.

Only need 100 gems.

[jagged sedge]

@tropic summit im making a defence team actually. I can beat him in all 3 of my reams when I attack.

[upper grove]

150 gems

[swift mango]

Hope my dude is having fun because he had something to hit instead of just pride.

[jagged sedge]

@swift mango this is what im dealin with

[sudden drift]

cant stay here too long.. yáll warp my perception of what to invest in this game. dropping SBS from wishlist for OG, leveling up everyone to 4/4/4, even got me questioning whether to break open mfg selector for noise arm gear

tactics bueno. campaign and everything else no bueno

[swift mango]

You could wishlist both of Scarlet...

[upper grove]

Wishlist both scarlets

Not having sbs: hf in ch 33 and beyond

[quick lake]

Thats exactly what happens in pvp chat if u stay for too long

[upper grove]

We'll see when CA drops if it's worth the hassle

[sudden drift]

Tell me that like yesterday

[sudden drift]

have no doro, 0 star RH grave scar rapunzel and 2* crown

I’ll settle for core 1 sbs atm

No more. Y’all are terrible influences

[jagged sedge]

My defence team on bottom. He could ve taking the L fornall I know.

[swift mango]

So you have almost everyone.

[sudden drift]

Yep just no doro

[swift mango]

I'm synch 355 and still no doro, Rapun, Harran, Modernia.

[upper grove]

292 no harran nor isabel

[sudden drift]

No harran is a blessing

[sudden drift]

Lottery winner

[swift mango]

Not like those 2 are used anywhere now

I'm wishlist Snow white because only need one more copy of her to MLB.

[upper grove]

Isabel treasure surely some day

[swift mango]

When that time comes I would think of buying her dupes.

I'm lacking Mordenia, Harran and doro and not even wishlisting them. Only Rapun on the wish list now that I don't own, the rest are for dupes.

[upper grove]

Both mod and doro didn't age well they are still okay but so many downsides compared to actual meta units

[swift mango]

Technically you could wishlist SBS dupe instead of Grave dupe and it won't change much.

Grave doesn't need dupe.

[swift mango]

Whale with Modernia core+7 still use her good non burst dps.

[upper grove]

I still want to reset my 10/7/4 mod down to 7/7/4 or sth

[quick lake]

Reset doro to 1/1/1

[sudden drift]

phew.. haven’t lost all sense of reason. Still hurts to drop blanc off the list for ros tho

[swift mango]

Man you are lucky at the right place huh. Need to look at somewhere else.

[swift mango]

[sudden drift]

Luck? Oh you mean 💳-based skill right?

gimme a break… at least I stopped whaling after the first month or two and only this last month got into playing on PC

[swift mango]

You def team is very sus. Very high chance to lose because no Blanc, no buff scarlet.

[jagged sedge]

I got blanc backwards. My be. She bursts

She is usually in the middle. I think maybe switching jackal with scarlet

So that jackals s1 activates

[eager mountain]

[swift mango]

Level diff? That Rossanna really hurt... Imagine if the bigger hit crited instead of the smaller one...

I found this pic from gacha chat interesting...

[whole pawn]

man I m being booted from chal 8

[tropic summit]

ch9 and ch10, then you gotta defend against entire dia1 and dia2

[tropic summit]

yeah 10% deficit there, RH was pure padding

@eager mountain

added rosanna to my def
no more attacks
why did it take me so long to build her

although now they'll build her aswell then we back to scratch

[swift mango]

Very sus. Look like they don't know the wonder of god comp.

[tropic summit]

yeah noise noah thelm rapu laplace is making them tilt somehow

probably because single buff emi isn't wiping anymore against that

and indom emi gets nuked to oblivion due to link killer helmT B3

[eager mountain]

no more attacks, they scared of her?

[tropic summit]

looks like

[eager mountain]

[swift mango]

I mean most Rosa team could be solved easily with "SBS god comp".

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

not against noah + biscuit, look what happens at her dmg

and that's a 5RL team with moran instead

[swift mango]

This is not Rossana team

[tropic summit]

you running SBS with rosanna?

[swift mango]

I mean running SBS into Rossana.

[tropic summit]

oh i know which team you mean then

[tropic summit]

but this was a non fully invested rosanna i think

against the same rosanna i'm dealing with on my ch1 i'd probably die there

the 10-14% CP deficit combined with their high core and investiment would probably delete me

[sleek root]

Haha! This! the tryhard that kept attacking me, useCindy to bypass my Rosanna. I went and put Noah, and been winning ever since on def.
Hope he doesnt figure it out how to counter the counter

[whole pawn]

man even ppl in dia can rock my place, it's always the user 11 and koukei and the rest of ppl that below me

[upper grove]

I assume building Noise and Biscuit 1st is still more worth it for me than Rosanna

even though looking at rosanna comps is definitely tempting

[whole pawn]

chal 8 is vulnerable to diamond 1 to 3 so it's like that

[swift mango]

Noise raise max HP to counter Rossana attack. But this isn't exactly a SBS god comp, only 1 healer.

[covert lintel]

neglecting free win and goes to ordinary defense

[tropic summit]

had to kick it into 2RL and was pre helmT, couldn't spare another non clip RL

enemy team was 2.5RL

[upper grove]

my bracket is sub 300 so I can get away with it I think some in top 10 barely have helm treasure, I'm the only one with laplace+ in top 5 and I can get rosanna later for surprise attack

[quick lake]

Maybe I should build 4x crit rate on rosanna too

A rosanna that can actually 1 shot is scary

[tropic summit]

not sure who told me before, but rosanna on 7/10/10 SR15 with 30-40atk% can still 1hitko

considering my ch1, it almost killed my RH

although on 10% deficit and 55+ levels ahead

and it's a whale..

i think if you run rosanna with another aoe dmg dealer that can help her finish off nikke, it's safer

e.g. mari or centi or similar

[jagged sedge]

Should I max Jackal's gear to help with damage reduction?

[covert lintel]

40%atk 40%crit

[quick lake]

If attacker has SR15, cannot OHKO

SR5 and 10 still can

[tropic summit]

oh then it's just CP diff then

[magic horizon]

Hello those who are good at pvp can someone who know this area more help me out with good comps

[tropic summit]

can go window shopping here

#pvp-arena message

[quick lake]

Optional. Its nice if u have extra mats (I did)

[magic horizon]

alright thanks

[swift mango]

Crit line only reach 7% as black line

If only it was 10%

[swift mango]

Just fish for crit with 80% crit dmg OL.

[tropic summit]

use mast to increase crit 🤔

[quick lake]

Not so much the dmg, but its frequency of critting

[covert lintel]

4 crit line of 5% is fine
then make s1 to 10

[quick lake]

Can u even fire that many shots to proc s1?

[covert lintel]

idk

[tropic summit]

[quick lake]

We fire 26 times in 2RL for rosanna, cannot proc s1 crit rate

[tropic summit]

RIP

[swift mango]

Use her with new mast instead if you aren't gonna sacc.

[tropic summit]

how far can it push it?

[swift mango]

20% crit and 35% atK

[quick lake]

New mast might not affect rosanna though

[swift mango]

At the start of b1

Just like Cindy s1 at the start of b3 affect her burst.

[quick lake]

But B3 buffs when entering full bursts, doesnt buff nukes

idk

[swift mango]

At the start of b3 buff b3 Nuke. At the start of B1 buff b1 nuke. It's not rocket science.

[quick lake]

[jagged sedge]

@tropic summit what if you pair rh with jackal? The dmg would be destributed when rosanna b1.

[strong hull]

@quick lake @swift mango i need Flora team

[lunar dirge]

Guys, did anyone test REIT's auto attack damage?

[finite sluice]

How is targeting done in pvp?

[lunar dirge]

Almost everything attacks p1

Exceptions are shotguns on defence and sniper rifle on offence

They target p5

[whole pawn]

I didn't stay longer enough

[finite sluice]

There are stances?

[finite sluice]

Left to right?

[whole pawn]

it does this reshuffle puts me in a bad situation

[lunar dirge]

Yeah

[lunar dirge]

Defence is when the team you put on defence is attacked by your opponents,attack is when you attacks the team which your opponent put on, how hard is that to understand?

[finite sluice]

I thought it's a different mechanic sir

[quick lake]

Rosanna s1 removes opponent's jackal link. So no distributed dmg

[jagged sedge]

Oh

[quick lake]

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/pvp-mechanics/

[quick lake]

No

[finite sluice]

Nice graph, thank you

[strong hull]

[quick lake]

I cooked a Flora team like yesterday though

[strong hull]

Ein+ Flora it seem

Alway burned

[jagged sedge]

You would need 3 attackers..

[tropic summit]

copium or was it intended to actually work? 🤔

[strong hull]

5050

No its superclowning

[quick lake]

It was the best units the guy had

[tropic summit]

lmao you've got hawks waiting in ambush there

not even 3 minutes

[whole pawn]

they hawk on my tuah

[swift mango]

Could hit c6-7 instead of 8

[whole pawn]

nope I cant

[swift mango]

[whole pawn]

u don't know who I am facing

even chal 7 is far from possible

everyone with 280k cp meta teams

[tropic summit]

it's in RPS, looks like splash doesn't hit past single position, essentially a fairly bad indom, but great nuke

[whole pawn]

I don't even have Noah to cope

maybe 2.1k this time is justified

[swift mango]

Ol your units

[whole pawn]

they are

[magic horizon]

i am barely holding D1 while being 20k down on power

[lunar dirge]

But we ain't talking about splash

[whole pawn]

but they have Noah and a well built dpses

[lunar dirge]

Can she put as much DMG pn single target as scar

[whole pawn]

idk why am I even trying to convince you blood, u are playing different game than I am

[lunar dirge]

After burst

[swift mango]

He hit c8 3 minutes after he hit 9.

[whole pawn]

I think I climbed to chal 9 then chal 8

[lunar dirge]

Was forced to ask someone to do my game for me for a week cuz my pc broke down, those ppl really held a grudge against me huh

[whole pawn]

thus why I have 3 mn in chal 9, because that was the time between climbing from chal 9 to 8 then someone beat me and I went directly to dia 1

so I technically I stayed in chal for 4h and a half

[swift mango]

If you are rank 11-15 you will hit r8

Nothing personal here, just business

[lunar dirge]

They still could even drop me to diamond

[swift mango]

[magic horizon]

dont think i can XD

[quick lake]

1.5m guy at rank 6

[magic horizon]

dont know what he is cooking

[jagged sedge]

@quick lake mana could revive. I dont have her tho

[swift mango]

Just another Echo

[magic horizon]

but yeah the heighest power in my group is 2.1m

[quick lake]

Mana kind of in a weird spot. She's good, but burst gen is bad. She's like an inferior biscuit imo

[lunar dirge]

unless you to do Rosanna shenanigans (still ass)

[jagged sedge]

Damn

[swift mango]

Need to use with Rossana. My problem with Mana is her OL tier so sh**...

[quick lake]

Not alot of team comps can take advantage of Mana buffing SBS (cause of her only buffing longest charge time)

[swift mango]

So low CP and can't be used

[quick lake]

Just weird

[jagged sedge]

I mean if rossana is wiping scarlet, she get insta revived and shwing

[swift mango]

The problem with revived scarlet is that she doesn't have stacks of ATK or any buff before she ded. That's why XAnne wasnt much of a meta.

[quick lake]

Yeah, revived scarlet doesnt have her s1 atk stacks. So revived scarlet dmg is lower

[swift mango]

A scarlet revived by XAnne basically has zero buff.

And just do a 880% wipe on her based ATK+OL

[jagged sedge]

Gotcha. Cindi and biscuit seem to be doing a good job against rossana

[quick lake]

yeah definitely

[jagged sedge]

I hace to throw on 2 high attack units

[swift mango]

Except when Rossana only used for burst gen Sacc so they wipe your team faster.

[quick lake]

Passive crit rate buffer soon

[swift mango]

Need to have Crit cube that give 30-35% crit at lv7

[quick lake]

Next campaign update maybe

[swift mango]

This does make ReiT superior to Scarlet.

[quick lake]

ReiT probably on par, maybe slight better than scar

Indom scar still great. But ReiT easier to reach 2RL

[swift mango]

Revived ReiT with enough Ele should be able to nuke RH linked even without buffer.

[upper grove]

I can't wait for next banner

[whole pawn]

do we know who s next ? probably no

[swift mango]

We know just not her skills.

[whole pawn]

so who

[upper grove]

let's just say there's a reason why flora is next bond episode watching

[swift mango]

I would guess she is the next gen CDR for Wind and Missiles. It's about time for that.

[quick lake]

Distributed dmg buffer surely

[upper grove]

can't be worse than Flora

I just hope she's not defender, I have no gear left. Support would be ez

[quick lake]

U'll be in for a surprise

[upper grove]

uhh lemme check

[whole pawn]

so you guys know who but don't bother to say mmmm

[swift mango]

Defender gear for missiles I haven't OL any but Centi.l and Jacksl can't be lacking on that

[quick lake]

leaks against tos

[upper grove]

I still have defender gear helm and chest but no boots and arms, went to Jackal and centi. Or I delay centi OL

ahh and Tia also got OL because I was missing crown for so long

[quick lake]

Well, we'll find out when we find out

[upper grove]

elysion had a great start this year, hope Missilis gets some love as well. if they want to sell us CA they better make her good

[quick lake]

xanne banner rerun next, I can feel it

[swift mango]

Anis, Bay, Moran, Rumani, Blanc.

Nothing beat the defender Tetra Gate for Arena players...

Next: Nero...

[upper grove]

tetra too many units to OL

[swift mango]

That's why no one build Folkwang and original Ludmilla

[upper grove]

my acc after 6 months had only ONE tetra attacker helm drop

[swift mango]

[upper grove]

xlud got it, while alice got the free one from diary

and I farmed helms a lot actually

[swift mango]

Folkwang and original Lud are also defender Tetra. Another into the hell.

[fading flicker]

I'm getting cooked at sp arena, please build me team

[swift mango]

Most high tier Arena defender are Tetra.

I could have Ludmilla or Folkwang built if they weren't Tetra.

[swift mango]

Is helm treasured?

Is having Makima at 455 level bricked or not?

[fading flicker]

What treasured? I really don't know about it

I have a lot of resources

What's with this emoji 😭

😭

[fading flicker]

I only don't have this

Day 3 player still Rapuless 😭

[swift mango]

Favorite item.

[fading flicker]

Ohhhh, the normal helm?

[swift mango]

You get her doll to SR15 then unlock it

[fading flicker]

ok will do

Is this it right?

[swift mango]

Yeah.

[shell hazel]

phase 0 SR 🧱

[swift mango]

Change your daily dispatch to getting the mat to upgrade her favorite item.

[upper grove]

get her skill 1 maxed asap for pvp as well

[fading flicker]

Ok, I'll check it. I have tons of resources.

What team is good for her?

[upper grove]

any. she's best burst gen with S1 maxed

even in pve, 2 full charge shots = burst bar full

[quick lake]

HelmT is all rounder good. PvE, PvP etc

[swift mango]

Get her to phase 2 s1+2 lv10. She become the best unit to pair with Crown against boss without core.

In Arena she is also mainstay. Almost kick Anis SR out of the picture.

[unique mountain]

[fading flicker]

Is this it?

[upper grove]

yes, that's phase 2. so your skill 2 is also better now

phase 3 is just for burst, which is also good

[swift mango]

To which units do you have OL on? Is this an invested Nero I'm looking at?

[fading flicker]

I can invest her

[quick lake]

Helm phase 2, s1 lv10 is good enough

[fading flicker]

I have tons of resources, I'm just doing dailies and not really doing any character leveling

[upper grove]

that explains getting cooked in SP

[quick lake]

Blood cookin'

[swift mango]

So do you have tons of resource boxes unopened? Maybe try to catch up with Campaign first, then opening them if you wanted to rank high in Arena.

[upper grove]

good question, what's your current ranking in SP and how high is the difference in lvls

[fading flicker]

My server is stacked

[quick lake]

Probably sync 500+

[fading flicker]

I'm at 37

I'm just satisfied at rank 10-30

[quick lake]

Yeah, looks week1/month1 sync

[upper grove]

with proper investment that should be somewhat fixable with your goals in mind

[fading flicker]

my inventory state rn

I finshed main story

[swift mango]

He said he was day 3 player. So probably need at least 501+ to be top 10.

[fading flicker]

I was always using boxes then, realized at synchro 200 that it's a bad decision

[swift mango]

It's about hard mode and buying extra event try to clear H11 with gems. I guess you won't catch up looking at your stack.

[sudden drift]

I need this level of self control

[fading flicker]

I just really want to be rank 20-30

[upper grove]

yeah top 10 not possible with lack of lvls I think, top 30 should be doable if he's already 37th

[fading flicker]

Any team recommendations will help thank you in advance

[swift mango]

Could you list your RL with CS 10% CS or above from OL line, and their specific charge speed? Also, RH, HelmT and Emilia charge speed from OL?

[fading flicker]

Ok will do

[sudden drift]

Why don’t you get THelm treasure first? Opens up a lot of team comps

[quick lake]

They just treasured her to phase 2

[sudden drift]

Not like he can’t afford 10/10

[quick lake]

True, but moderation

[sudden drift]

His inventory screams excess moderation

Btw I take back what i said about regretting picking JP… challenger 4 has quit since 2/21 and no one has even attempted to take that spot

[swift mango]

CS is counted like this:

0.49 is rounded to 0. 0.51 is rounded to 1. Same value lines are added together before rounding. Different value lines rounded separately before adding to each others.

[fading flicker]

All RLs?

Is HelmT the normal Helm?

[crystal flicker]

wdym tho

[swift mango]

Yes.

[crystal flicker]

I'm always new player

[crystal flicker]

Normal Helm with Treasure

[fading flicker]

Ohhh I see

[swift mango]

Only the ones with OL gear ofc...

[unique mountain]

Same

[upper grove]

all newbies here

[swift mango]

From your list, tell me the CS of Noah, Noise, RH, Tia, Biscuit, Centi, Jackal, Emi, A2, Helm. Could write all the lines separately like (3.45;4.33;4.33) so you don't need to math

[midnight spire]

help me build pvp team thanks

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[fading flicker]

Ok ok I'm almost finsih computing

I'm rerolling the stats

[tropic summit]

for starters:

-can you get centi and blanc to 4/4/4 and 4OL (or at least body) on OL?
-are you pushing for helm treasure?
-are you planning to treasure laplace?
-can you put reiT in sync? she can be used as B3

[covert lintel]

cindy doesn't need any CS

[fading flicker]

I see

[swift mango]

Cindy is fine, she doesn't need CS.

[swift mango]

Could you tell me tell me the exacted value of the lines on your 5 units here but Cindy?

Like (3.45;3.45;4.04)?

[midnight spire]

yeah i will do it in the future. Now i dont have any treasure, pls help me build team base on character i have.

[swift mango]

And what is the level of your Emi s1 ?

[fading flicker]

I'm really sorry I didn't understand this

[covert lintel]

what cindy need
atk 4line
ed 4line
crit rate 3line
max ammo 1line
there u go monster of dmg

[fading flicker]

Should I lvl 10 it?

[covert lintel]

[swift mango]

With your CS? 7 should be enough. 4 should be fine.

10 is good though.

[fading flicker]

Ok

[swift mango]

So keep it at 4-7 if you wanna save.

[fading flicker]

Centi

Is that the lines?

[tropic summit]

anis rumani cind biscuit alice
sbs xmaiden blanc rh jackal (needs quantum lvl 1 on jackal for natural 3RL)
centi noah scarlet liter rrh

plan as screenshot provided

[quiet fiber]

Hello, can anyone help optimize my attack and defense teams? My post got buried yesterday, so I thought I'd ask again.

Laplace - 5/5/7 Full treasure
Helm - 10/10/7 2nd phase treasure

Harmony Cube
[06] Assault
[06] Onslaught
[09] Resilience
[10] Bastion
[05] Adjutant
[06] Wingman
[09] Quantum
[06] Vigor
[05] Endurance
[05] Healing
[04] Tempering
[03] Assist
[01] Destruction

Cindy is 8/8/8 but I have enough resources to 10/10/10 her.
Rosanna is 4/4/4.

[tropic summit]

did you ping afterward? either way i see you just added that info

the scarlet teams need fixing

indom and s.anis are relatively fine

and yes get cindy to 10/x/10

[shell hazel]

cindy doesn't really need 10/10/10, 10/5/10 here on mine and maybe I'll go like 10/7/10 or so in the end

[crystal flicker]

Rail now:

https://tenor.com/view/anime-making-food-gif-6625486616893587408

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/food-chop-slice-onion-onion-cooking-gif-12269958

looks very Shinkai if you ask me

[crystal flicker]

I like chill cooking more than tossing the wok through the fire and the flames

[tropic summit]

rumani centi cind helmT doro
noah biscuit rapu s.anis la+
scarlet blanc rh emilia jackal (ensure scarlet is 1st or 2nd highest atk% in the comp, else remove emilia and use noir)

quantum on rumani, centi, jackal
vigor on biscuit, rapu, blanc
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis, s.anis must be lvl 9 burst, no ammo OL
any other high lvl cube on the remaining

notes: build/wishlist noise asap, replace doro with her once CP doesn't tank too much

[swift mango]

Yeah. This is actually 5+4+3+3=15% CS.

[fading flicker]

I see, will send the rest now

[quick lake]

Scarlet Grave RH Drake Jackal
Noah Centi Cindy Biscuit Noise
Blanc SBS Biscuit T.Helm Liter

Why u cook so long blood

Shouldnt recommend rolling cs% to casuals

[tropic summit]

food in anime looks 3 times more yummy than it should, fortunately i ate 30 mins ago or i'd be getting hungry

[fading flicker]

Emi

[quick lake]

Try to get 1 more cs on Emi is possible. Sum total 8% cs from OLs with s1 at lv10

[fading flicker]

Helm

[worthy knoll]

Food in anime also makes the one tasting it rip their clothes, break their glass or even make them go to heaven

[quiet fiber]

Sorry for the slow response. I usually don't ping people.

[tropic summit]

feels like you referring to a very specific one haha

[quick lake]

Dont necessarily need to roll cs% for all RL. They are good to have Ur current ~10% cs is good enough unless u want to go further ie 15-17%

[fading flicker]

Jackal

[swift mango]

This Emi actually only have 2 CS lines totally 7%...

[fading flicker]

Oh wait I forgot the boots

[swift mango]

I think you could just direct message me these pictures if you wanted.

[fading flicker]

oh okay

[quick lake]

The only priority unit is Emilia to total 8%, thats all

[worthy knoll]

you know there is Bla view too

[tropic summit]

no worries, attack teams btw should be tailored based on your opponent, although as a general rule:

-run fast cindy nuke against non noah teams
-run fast scarlet nuke against any feeding enemy team (SGs, ARs, MGs etc)
-run emi indom against any stall team, care when 2 defenders + biscuit

[swift mango]

Yeah. Could just unblock his bla equipment and send me his blabla link...

[quick lake]

I dont think its worth it to roll cs% if he just wants to rank 20-30

[tropic summit]

probably up to dia1 you can stay fairly casual

ppl there still think CP only wins the fight

(most of the time at least)

[swift mango]

Yeah, just wanted to check his CS.... Idk if he rolled.

[worthy knoll]

I mean just one pic is needed to show all instead of 4 pics

[quick lake]

U dont have to roll cs%!!!

[swift mango]

His Centi is pretty good at least. 17% right there.

[fading flicker]

I actually have 0 idea

[tropic summit]

@crystal flicker i'm in danger, don't wanna lose the blue rank

#leaderboard message

[quick lake]

Ur current units are great enough. Just need focus on increasing sync lv

[fading flicker]

I don't know this app lol I'm so sorry I'm ignorant

[crystal flicker]

You'll ascend to dark blue tho

[quick lake]

No blue for u

[tropic summit]

dark blue still fine, maybe

[quiet fiber]

Alright, done reading through your detailed response. I got the gist of things now. Thank you for taking the time to help people like me. It’s greatly appreciated.

[tropic summit]

you're welcome, happy hunting

[fading flicker]

How do you this? is it a website or an app?

[crystal flicker]

blablalink.com

[quick lake]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad

[crystal flicker]

they should've bought .link domain and make it blabla.link lmao

[quick lake]

Hoyolab for nikke essentiallt

They should have just made a proper app

[swift mango]

I think you need to be rank 150 to be diamond. It's still a long journey.

[crystal flicker]

Exp calc is based on the amount of characters

[quick lake]

word characters?

[swift mango]

Rail mainly send pics.

[crystal flicker]

Dunno how many exp a pic is

[tropic summit]

maybe i should just chat with pics, forever blue

[swift mango]

I remember @umbral crown was diamond when I first saw them. Plat now.

[shell hazel]

1000 words right there

[crystal flicker]

11 exp/1 pic

[swift mango]

Dun worry, me too.

[tropic summit]

you should

[swift mango]

OL Noah and equip her with Sr0 at least if you didn't.

[tropic summit]

then again if u never used it at least ppl can't see your details without specifically turning them off

[shell hazel]

is challenger the highest rank we can reach with pics?

[swift mango]

Or just use username too different to your ign...

[fading flicker]

what's Sr0 ?

the cube?

[swift mango]

The doll.

If you don't have SR at least equip R.

[fading flicker]

I see, thank you I alr put a doll on it. should 15 it?

[swift mango]

No need.

You mean a rare doll?

[fading flicker]

The SR doll

[swift mango]

SR doll could stay zero... Normally if you wanted to upgrade it later on you r15 it first. Before swapping to Sr. But Noah isn't someone you want sr15 on. So keep it sr0.

[swift mango]

Could you send me your blabla link now?

Private is fine if you don't want to show it here.

[fading flicker]

I send a link, idk if that's it

[quick lake]

Everytime there's a new post in https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/946719766758973460 I get excited for nothing

[swift mango]

Rail could have cooked for you real quick, I'm just wasting your time 😂

[midnight spire]

tysm

[fading flicker]

Its fine, I wasted 200 blue stones in a span of 2 hours

[swift mango]

I should have told you to not rolling... Oh well.

[fading flicker]

I don't have Rumani, any alternative for her?

[crystal flicker]

Champion ~~postponed ~~Arena

[crystal flicker]

Anis, but she has lower hp than rumani

[raven plover]

tomorrow new unit teaser? surely pvp unit, good sign for CA

[fading flicker]

Ok, but I have no burst 1

[crystal flicker]

rotate

[fading flicker]

this fine, for now lol

[crystal flicker]

-23 oofc

[quick lake]

@fading flicker Edited

[swift mango]

I only asked his CS, not telling him to roll for them....

[quick lake]

Oh well, what's done is done

[unique mountain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1332018768511107083/1339123795713200148/1739329673885430.gif

[fading flicker]

9 for now, tomorrow 37 again

[swift mango]

Did you make your own attack team?

[fading flicker]

I used what @quick lake suggest

Can I use A2 here instead of Drake?

[unique mountain]

A2? In this economy?

[crystal flicker]

Lower burst gen iirc

[fading flicker]

so Drake > A2?

[quick lake]

Is drake treasured?

[fading flicker]

Yes

[quick lake]

Lemme cook u another set of teams gimme a sec

[quick lake]

Quantum cube at lv7?

[unique mountain]

I need more pvp meta units to invest in

[quick lake]

Rosanna and Moran

[unique mountain]

I said new

[fading flicker]

I pm'd you @quick lake

[quick lake]

Nero

[swift mango]

Invest in your Rossana or Moran then

[unique mountain]

New

[swift mango]

SR Anis is pretty new I guess.

[swift mango]

Is this your Rossana?

[quick lake]

U have Moran at 10/10/10?

[unique mountain]

111

Rosanna also 111

[quick lake]

[unique mountain]

I OLd bay cause she my gyal

[quick lake]

Bay is nice

[unique mountain]

Im waiting for the 6 skill resets devs gonna give us , after that i might invest a bit

But we do need more credit income at 500+ somehow, its not looking sus tainable up here to invest in both pve and pvp

[upper grove]

No skill books, no core dust, no credit

I want to build my units SU

[swift mango]

If Rheax teams lost, you could try to swap.

[swift mango]

I just 5553 my helmT

Wanted to build Nero or Miranda but just doesn't have the mats for them.

[sleek root]

The fact that even Whales complain they dont have enough resources to even buy it, says alot about the game resource scarcity

[summer copper]

But if it’s a problem that affects everyone then is it really a problem?

[tulip quest]

Yea like if you throw cash at it and still lacking so many stuff it's practically gatekeeping in a way

Like even SKYJLV shows he bought the resource stuff that cost many $ and still said we just lack resource for this not sure what shift up is cooking maybe they soon gonna add, additional farming place for resource n stuff

[crimson escarp]

what are the best 3 teams for pvp right now with all nikkes

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Jackal, 2RL Cindy, Stall comp

[crimson escarp]

I cant build the third team properly (cinderella one this case)

I fkin hate shuffles I was in a good spot for 3 months now there's a guy who won't give me peace

[tropic summit]

check these, make a combo of them

#pvp-arena message

highly suggest not running crown and SBS on def

unless you want enemy to scarlet one and biscuit the other

[crystal flicker]

I just realized, C1 and C3 is a damn whale (Cindy, ScarletBS MLB, etc, Sync 300+)
C4 Try hard 286

[crimson escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-6163789505474400991

[jagged sedge]

This guy has lost around 800 gems now. Lol

[swift mango]

Those aren't whale enough.

[umbral crown]

I could have been cgallenger but things happened

[umbral crown]

Its all about sending you to c4

[sleek root]

https://youtu.be/5nEmXooW2NM

Dude, there's no way this guy isn't "whale enough"

He literally point and said "Theres nothing else to buy"

[swift mango]

He didn't whale enough to upgrade Miranda.

[umbral crown]

Si

[patent sail]

Bot just said "you are not him"

[patent sail]

Guys im not so knowledgeable about pvp , i lack some good units like scarlet noa and biscuits , what is the best team i can build for rookie for now , and 3 teams for sp

[tropic summit]

helm treasured? stage 2 s1 lvl 10?

[sudden drift]

just change this to your name already 🤣

[lament girder]

can you guys give me 3 teams for pvp?

[patent sail]

Yeah treasured p2 , s1 still 4, but I'm planning to start investing on her

[swift mango]

Rookie: Auto x1

SP: Auto x3

[swift mango]

At least lv7 please

Oh well, just reduce her Regen by 3.9% per shot.

[patent sail]

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

ok for helm, taking a look then

[tropic summit]

SP arena:
naga centi cind rouge rumani
sbs blanc rh xmaiden jackal
auto

Rookie:
jackal centi cind xmaiden rumani
or
sbs blanc rh xmaiden jackal

notes: wishlist/build noah, biscuit, rumani, noise, centi

get teams reviewed once noah/biscuit are found and you've got helmT on s1 lvl 10

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[tropic summit]

throw maiden in synch

[lament girder]

Got it

[tropic summit]

sbs mari alice maiden jackal
naga liter reiT anis drake
auto

wishlist/build: noah, biscuit, centi, noise, rapunzel, cindy, rumani

[patent sail]

Thanks appreciate that , for rookie team1?

[lament girder]

Okay. Thank you so much 🙏

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

for rookie try these 2, alternate between the two

[lament girder]

Can i ask what is rl

[tropic summit]

the higher the slower the speed at which you hit burst

2RL is faster than 3RL, 4RL is slower than 3RL

[lament girder]

I see. Thanks

[patent sail]

just copy for def?

[swift mango]

Kinda sus not using HelmT.

[tropic summit]

he doesn't have her ready

i asked earlier

[swift mango]

S1lv4 phase 2 already better than Centi

[tropic summit]

those are def teams, they can be used as atk teams as far as you pick the right matchups

atk is always tailored based on opponent you facing, considering counters and CP

[tropic summit]

@patent sail as suggestion from blood, can use helmT for more CP than pepper, while retaining RL

@swift mango

[shell hazel]

jackal will link with her as well bear in mind

helm atk will be high with treasure

[tropic summit]

that's fine, that team is running pure speed

(it's rookie)

[shell hazel]

I'm tired. What's for dinner Railtracer?

[patent sail]

thank you guys

[tropic summit]

a sandwich between whales

[shell hazel]

CP? just a number 😄

[tropic summit]

can't beat ch1 because he gets 2 lvls a day

[shell hazel]

wait 2 levels per day? 😮

[tropic summit]

i dunno dude is investing his family into this game probably

[shell hazel]

mad

[tropic summit]

selling a kid or two

[shell hazel]

I don't really want to sit there buying levels tbh, I'll get to end of the campaigns eventually

I actually throw more of my disposable income into savings than anything, started buying the ETF's again today

[tropic summit]

i've a try saved up for once today

i'll try hit him on deficit

biscuit might do the job

just gotta pray cindy will hit hard enough

[shell hazel]

if you rec I'd like to see it!

possibly with Freebird playing (optional)

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

my top 6 but guy in 2nd is near 261

guy in 3rd is like awakened empire been hitting guy in 3rd lately and they swap about

[tropic summit]

meanwhile TAV reigns supreme

[shell hazel]

he was dormant for first few days of season

[tropic summit]

surely the superior cooks

[shell hazel]

yeah, I wonder if he'll try to take it back once he gets 261 as more cp

but will keep hitting back until I can't win 😄

[tropic summit]

doubt they'll be sleeping forever

most likely already building up nikke copying your formations

[shell hazel]

maybe but mine aren't perfect either, and helmT still hidden away

I did stop to develop her and also for SBS OL and things too, so I will see if I can keep the OL rolling a bit on the pvp units 🙂

Blanc a bit next, and then Noah I guess

[swift mango]

He should be 4000 lv by now

[shell hazel]

hard mode unlocks today will buy extra tries and get all that core dust

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-gif-20766212

[swift mango]

Why are these guys not attacking you though.

[tropic summit]

they are

[swift mango]

4 tries vs 2

[tropic summit]

the only good thing is that they login 3 times a day, can earn some extra score knowing when to hit

ch3 ignores me, ch1 is perma stuck because he gems everyone, ch2 i keep bullying

[swift mango]

Yeah, just out login him

[tropic summit]

rather, that guy won every single season as ch1

this is the first season i can actively prevent him

can't miss the chance

(the current ch4)

[swift mango]

Cindy if she's a ship girl

[minor kestrel]

Hi can anyone help me build sp arena teams? I just got Helm treasure. I have every unit missing Rumani, X Quency, Rouge

[tropic summit]

"copy my homework, but slightly different" kind of thing

[swift mango]

That girl released 3 years ago.

SN Kiev

[shell hazel]

we had the list of awesome teams if you have every nikke but it's not pinned 💀

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

merry's rosanna position priority is also not pinned

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[shell hazel]

I found your previous message if they missing only 3 units does that not apply? or sorting teams based on power?

[tropic summit]

hmm not having rumani and rosanna is a bit limiting 🤔

is emi 21% CS?

or any of these on 17%CS:

centi, jackal, noah

[minor kestrel]

I have Rosanna

[tropic summit]

she's on the bottom tho

she'd need to be 7/10/10 SR15 with 30ish% atk

[shell hazel]

high investment

[tropic summit]

don't bother building her it's fine tho, just a bit more limiting on pressure oriented teams

[minor kestrel]

I can sync her and invest I have a lot of manuals

[shell hazel]

and rocks hopefully 😄

[tropic summit]

it's fine, rather get yourself a reiT built on 1/1/7 SR5 4OL

that's also quite pressuring

[shell hazel]

I'd hold on building her that is a lot to spend

is Rei T so good for pvp? I don't see anyone using her yet

[minor kestrel]

Ah I don’t have ReiT yet either but I have mileage if you suggest to get her

[tropic summit]

tbh i wouldn't sleep on her

it's scarlet minus counter but on wind code

[shell hazel]

mine is forever going to be LB0

[tropic summit]

means RH, laplace and rapunzel will get deleted with elem weakness

let alone that she doesn't need buffs to hit hard

[shell hazel]

if you want to use her she's good in PVE for Asuka W as well

[tropic summit]

yeah it's an investiment worthy also for pve, so it's at least that

[shell hazel]

I imagine for raids you'd pair Rei T with Asuka W

[tropic summit]

rosanna would be instead full PvP only

[shell hazel]

4/4/7 likely you'd want for mixed

if I was putting Rei T to work as PVE unit I'd budget build her to 4/4/4, so the extra 7 for burst is more the pvp nod

I'm doing it wrong though as I'm trying to MLB Asuka W 😄

[jagged sedge]

@umbral crown i guess. He is now making less gems than me either way.

[tropic summit]

either way, as you're right now, i can suggest these:

centi biscuit cindy emilia noise
scarlet blanc rh centi jackal
noise noah helmT rapu la+

cubes

quantum on jackal, centi
vigor on blanc, rapu, noise, biscuit
temperance on noah
any other nikke highest lvl cube

notes:

consider getting/building reiT, wishlist/build rumani for further variation
consider 17%CS on centi, rumani, jackal
consider 21%CS on emilia (if not already)
consider 17%CS on helmT
can consider building rosanna to increase pressure in teams

[minor kestrel]

Wow thanks so much I really appreciate how in depth this is

[shell hazel]

go smash em

[tropic summit]

her dress looks pretty good

(asuka)

[shell hazel]

I think it's the fav one of the skins for me

[swift mango]

101010 or go home

[shell hazel]

send me credit card for daily skill bundle

need $15 per day

that is kind of horrible value

[swift mango]

She will want 10710 for arena.

And PvE alike.

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

the amount of scams in this game 🤨

[shell hazel]

yeah I get scammed enough by the daily one but at least it turns that $15 into like 840 skill 1 manuals (or 420 burst 1 manuals) over a month

I get that to help out a bit anyway but it's still nowhere near enough even with sim room + 25R overclock + event shops

[tropic summit]

the good thing about being f2p, can't get scammed, since you don't know what you're missing or dodging in the first place

[shell hazel]

yeah, am not f2p but I'm not wanting to buy victory either 🙂

I get the skins mostly, pulls, and the daily skill manuals

passes and whatnot

[swift mango]

Congratulations on being blue

[shell hazel]

thanks fellow blue 🙂

[pale knoll]

[lone sequoia]

if the next unit is not a pvp unit, rip CA

[swift mango]

Dude tried to put up new teams, like it would work against me.

The CN whale gave up though, so the guy doesn't have to gem much now.

[swift mango]

Well, even SPA need a better B2.

[lone sequoia]

i think someone hates me

[swift mango]

He loves you

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-gif-25541576

[whole pawn]

@tropic summit is there a way to beat him( don't mind my teams I was trying to screenshot opponent team)

[stray loom]

Need a pvp team ?

[tropic summit]

is that bay linked with jackal?

you could try facetanking scarlet nuke, while on other you can scarlet

[whole pawn]

I don't have Noah to tank scarlet, any options?

[tropic summit]

nono you gonna eat that nuke

noah would at least shield you

[whole pawn]

idk what to do, I worst case scenario he would take chal 8 again

best I can myself is chal 9, seems challenger bracket is far from possible rn

[tropic summit]

in T2 get something that doesn't tank your CP but leaves you still 3RL

since your blanc is bricked, i guess you've graves and noir maybe?

[whole pawn]

my blanc is oled

[tropic summit]

you can go as low as 196k against that RRH team

[whole pawn]

do I use blanc?

[tropic summit]

check CP of these 2 then

you don't happen to have helmT right?

[whole pawn]

my noir isn't built

[tropic summit]

any built clip SG burst gen?

aside from xmaiden

[whole pawn]

T2 has cp

[tropic summit]

oh even with unbuilt noir you'd be fine

helmT you don't have her yet right?

[whole pawn]

no

[tropic summit]

ok

[whole pawn]

T2 has cp problem, I have to do kraken IG later

[tropic summit]

you've 13,3% CP deficit

while not optimal, you're at least not on deficit

real concern is whether that cindy has enough dmg to kill that thing...

[whole pawn]

so T2 isn't deficit? mmm

so do we try this ? or ...

[tropic summit]

if it's really a jackal linked bay, that's a tough cookie in terms of dmg reduction

[whole pawn]

what shall we do?

[tropic summit]

i can't ensure you'll win but it's maybe worth a try

[whole pawn]

either I attack, or save my attempt in case I demoted

there is a chance that I will loose my spot anyway in chal 8

[tropic summit]

record it if you run it

at least we find out if it's really a linked bay

[lunar pawn]

what's the counter here

[whole pawn]

it's probably gonna be a wasted attempt but we ball

[lunar pawn]

also, is there a new good rookie defense with tr helm out there?

[tropic summit]

biscuitless 2RL noah scarlet

that thing loses to anything that is 2RL noah with post burst DPS

[lunar pawn]

so sbs

[tropic summit]

yup or s.anis

[lunar pawn]

noise noah sbs jackal tr helm?

[whole pawn]

it doesn't matter, the guy that I took his place in chal 9 reclaimed it, and now I m attacking him

[lunar pawn]

didn't check calc yet though

[whole pawn]

still there is a chance that he still have an attempt, I m cooked

[tropic summit]

i'd say these 2 should do 🤔

[lunar pawn]

doing kraken first, wish me gl

[tropic summit]

even safer would be this, i've a showcase vid

the same would apply to 2RL variation of indom with also emi B3

[tropic summit]

well yeah if nothing to lose go for it

[lunar pawn]

4 rocks total

[lunar pawn]

let me try

<@&946725432554836008>

[oak rivet]

Too late

Ping faster next time

[lunar pawn]

cp deficit was at 15.6% right?

[tropic summit]

15,4% or multiply per 0.846

[ancient kayak]

hm

[tropic summit]

@whole pawn did you roll reiT btw?

[lunar pawn]

worked just had to bump my cp with some cube reallocation

kudos

[tropic summit]

is that a whale?

[lunar pawn]

what are some good rookie defenses nowadays?

[whole pawn]

I have all evas

[tropic summit]

2RL variations with indom seem to do generally better or stall teams

[lunar pawn]

only whales in arena

[whole pawn]

in other words I rolled on reit

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

@lunar pawn try rotating these 2

[lunar pawn]

alright cheers

[tropic summit]

oh oke, that's another B3 you could use down the road

[whole pawn]

later maybe, since I m still unable to build other units because I have to deal with my situation in pve

[lunar pawn]

wait, helm nuke? that works? I get about the super healing and all but

[tropic summit]

well it seems to work in my bracket, on an opponent that has 2RL rosanna it may be weaker

you'll revive her on 2nd burst cycle tho

(rapunzel)

2RL high pressure rosanna also works if you've built her

[lunar pawn]

she's decent but I'm doubting my scarlet these days

and I feel this guy will just cp gap me anyway lol

[tropic summit]

oh oke

[lunar pawn]

cheers though

[tropic summit]

well at the end of the day it's just rookie

[lunar pawn]

yea

I tried to cook in spa earlier, lost 1 attack

in my defense I went from this

to this

[tropic summit]

getting bullied

[lunar pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-beatdown-jujutsu-kaisen-2v1-gif-19722418

feels like I need to build moran

rheax defense options are very limited

[tropic summit]

well, nero moran are one of the best stalls you can aim for late game

with the addition of helmT that team got even stronger

[lunar pawn]

will prob work on pvp exclusively after this SR

[swift mango]

How much CP is your highest auto team? Team 3 is very normal attackable.

[swift mango]

Bay is p4 after biscuit, she won't burst or do anything.

[tropic summit]

oh ye biscuit in p2, still gotta get through jackal invulnerable on linked scarlet and xmaiden tho

way easier than having to deal with a linked bay

@whole pawn did you end up trying in the end?

[swift mango]

Linked XMaiden? Normally it's linked Biscuit and Scarlet.

[tropic summit]

you'd think they've biscuit on atk% OLs compared to xmaiden?

they're not like you

although i guess one should expect anything

[swift mango]

The problem is you assuming they rerolled ATK line for XMaiden. They aren't like you.

[tropic summit]

haha i guess that's also true

maybe we expect too much from opponents sometimes

[swift mango]

Biscuit with random T11 2 ATK would always have more ATK than XMaiden.

Today was an unlucky day. My 10 rocks I saved for 3 days gone just for nothing.

Maybe I need to save 20+ rock before I pop them now.

[tropic summit]

@swift mango i can fight again

[swift mango]

I still need 3 more level to reach 361. My reroll for Scarlet CP was so sh**ty so I won't take on Motherwhale for now and just wait.

[tropic summit]

what HM chapter you at again?

[swift mango]

Motherwhale is 21. I could mald now but 361 would make it easier.

[tropic summit]

yeah join me and Retro at 24-x

pretty sure retro is near the end of the chapter

[swift mango]

Right after MW, I would get there. Or at least ch23 boss.

My campaign team already 620k, with 361 boost it would be at least 650k.

Enough to clear MW easily.

[wanton island]

finally got Cinderella up from dumpster fire to top 3

[swift mango]

I will just save rock until I reach 361 then spend then all to get 3rd lines for Drunk Scarlet.

[tropic summit]

3 rocks

[swift mango]

My drunk Scarlet still needs fixing lots. Need to get 3rd lines and 1 more Crit rate.

[wanton island]

drunk scarlet = og?

[swift mango]

Yeah.

[wanton island]

i gave mine all ol5 gear first since she carried me so hard

then everyone told me she falls off

🤣🤣🤣

[swift mango]

Still top tier arena. And need her to beat Motherwhale for me.

[wanton island]

she is pretty good at slapping people in arena

[swift mango]

Gonna get her to sr15 too when SR come.

Miranda can wait.

[wanton island]

what level are your nikkes?

[swift mango]

358 now. 361 and I will clear Motherwhale regardless if my Scarlet is upgraded more or not.

[wanton island]

oh im surprised. i feel like og scarlet is the newb carrier

[stray loom]

Need a pvp team !!

[swift mango]

OL is nothing really for PvE now, just I need a nikke with Wipe skill.

[wanton island]

yeah. she does that well

[wanton island]

ask @tropic summit he is the pvp brains

[stray loom]

@tropic summit hello trains may you help with with a team Ty

[wanton island]

you got biscuit and sbs

repunzel

[tropic summit]

he's lvl 120 synch with emilia, isn't that a bricked account?

@stray loom did you take a break perhaps from the game?

[swift mango]

You are very bricked, just to say. Try to get to diamond is good enough.

[swift mango]

He is the opposite of you.

[wanton island]

whats a bricked account?

[umbral belfry]

I can OL all my scarlet gear rn

maybe gearing her will come sooner than I thought

but no doll

[swift mango]

Could be a bought account.

[stray loom]

What is bricked ??? I play on my phone and iPad I summoned for Emilia when she was out but quit now getting back into it

[tropic summit]

put rumani, noir and bsoda in synch

[swift mango]

10$ for an account with Emi and about a hundred of pull then roll for event.

[stray loom]

I can buy accounts with EMILIA ?? this cost me like £500 last time

[swift mango]

Yeah, about 5-10$ if you look around fb marketplaces.

[stray loom]

Bro what is that even allowed ??

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

It's allowed so long as you don't tell others about it

[crystal flicker]

"It's only a crime if you get caught"

[stray loom]

But what’s the point of doing that and not summoning for yourself it’s not gambling then I like to gamble

[wanton island]

a player of culture i see...

[swift mango]

With £500 you could buy a strong account with Emi and all Eva characters. High level and top 1-3-10 Arena ranking to boots.

Or if you don't mind not being top 1-3 arena you could find accounts with Makima and 2B.

[tropic summit]

liter naga sbs rumani noir
maiden mast:RM bsoda rapu emilia
auto

[swift mango]

Since you look like you have money to spend. If you want to be a collector I would recommend buying an account with all collaboration characters. From a trusted marketplace of your language.

Nier, CSM, Eva and Re:zero. Won't take you more than £500.

Then you could gamble it up from there.

[crystal flicker]

Using account bought from another people feels different

[wanton island]

its also linked to another email

[crystal flicker]

Is like you adopting other people's child

[swift mango]

Linked it to your Gmail afterwards then

[wanton island]

you can relink a linked account?

[crystal flicker]

you can unbind I believe

[wanton island]

yeah... i never heard of anyone relinking an account

[swift mango]

Defending on game I guess. But I heard some people in marketplaces has the connection to unlinked account in games that you couldn't normally unlink.

[wanton island]

too much risk buying a linked account imo

if youre gonna whale, just do it on your own one

[swift mango]

That's why you find trusted site of your language.

[swift mango]

The problem is that you can't get old Collab units no matter how much money you spend.

[wanton island]

why not? i got original asuka and rei

they will rerun the old units

[swift mango]

That's just copium.

Asuka 2 events are planned.

[wanton island]

nothing copium about a company rerunning nikkes

[crystal flicker]

ok that sounds wrong

[swift mango]

It's copium for this game and most game as well for Collab units.

[wanton island]

nah

they will run it again next year

its the same for all these games

[umbral belfry]

Nier collab rerun? Re:Zero rerun?

[crystal flicker]

We have better chance for SB collab than Eva rerun tbh

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[crystal flicker]

unless they already signed the contract with Eva rights holder

[wanton island]

unless there is an exclusive rights for a certain period of time, almost every nikke imo gets a rerun

[swift mango]

They signed for 2 events. That's why they had to bite the bullet after first event not got them as much money as they hoped.

[wanton island]

i see it all the time

youre addicted to fomo i guess

[swift mango]

Idk wtf is wrong with you more like.

[wanton island]

you sound like a fomo child

asuka will be rerun again

trust ..

[swift mango]

I have played gacha for 15+ years and collaboration barely ever rerun.

Azur Lane has some rerun but those they signed it before hand.

It's hard to talk with ignorant people.

[crystal flicker]

15 years?

[wanton island]

lol

[swift mango]

Many Azur Lane players are still copium for Neptunia Collab rerun after 7+ years.

You are just like them.

[crystal flicker]

or Hololive

[swift mango]

Hololive already reran once though?

[stray loom]

got it thanks im look into it

[wanton island]

my guy... you need to relax. for one, if after 15 years a limited exclusive isnt run, she is bottom of the barrel

all gachas have power creep

you just dont make sense