pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

teach me a trick to make a whale lose 60 levels

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

or gain

[tropic summit]

there's noway to gain, not spending a cent on this

[umbral crown]

but skins do not give levels

[tropic summit]

but skins cost the price of a full release game

[umbral crown]

just 20

sometimes 60

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

how is this not marked a scam is beyond me, marketing team doing splendid

[umbral crown]

waifu lovers

i wish i could get chandelier instead the current gacha but it is what it is

i find chandelier sexier than the gacha

[tropic summit]

imagine the whole thing

Designer: oh you know what, let's make this very revealing dress for Helm...
CEO: Noway... when?
Designer: right now, straight away
Intern: how about we make it transparent?

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

Bizness

[spiral onyx]

After the first release:
Intern: make it... More transparent

[tropic summit]

employee of the year

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/josh-osuna-baby-jah-gif-23706027

Eva 2.0

Intern: We need more cabooses for the gooses

See current Nikke title screen for results

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor whale down again

he even went to the trouble of running 2 CP padded teams, and yet here we are

[glad meteor]

Nice

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

https://tenor.com/view/yuko-yoshida-shamiko-machikado-mazoku-jumping-mad-gif-14615738

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/pool-boy-dopinder-deadpool-live-the-dreams-mr-pool-gif-22377230

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Fine

[umbral crown]

361 already?

[glad meteor]

Even core 7 helm

[polar bolt]

Hey guys, any recommendations against this setup? Already lost a couple of times the last between today and yesterday

This is why I'm working with, Helm is fully treasured, S1 Lv 10

[quick lake]

Helm burst lv?

[polar bolt]

Burst is only level 6 right now

[crystal flicker]

30+ sync over me

[quick lake]

T1: Noah Bay Cindy Helm Rumani
T2: Moran Blanc Biscuit SBS Laplace
T3: skip

[crystal flicker]

Bay?

[quick lake]

Just in case Noah gets sniped

[crystal flicker]

I assume Noah can catch up before Nuke, wouldn't Biscuit better there?

[quick lake]

Different ways to go about it

Noah Centi Biscuit Cindy HelmT
Scar Blanc RH Emi Jackal

should be able to work too

[crystal flicker]

That T3 literally summoning Stall comp lmao

[quick lake]

But dk whether Scar Blanc Emi was fast enough

In theory should work, but rng too

Relying on feed to get 2.5RL is too much math

Noah team against Cindy?

[crystal flicker]

assume their BLanc able to activate, it'll be either Scar vs ScarBS or Scar vs Emi lmao

[glad meteor]

Scalter. But it becomes icbm

[quick lake]

Yeah. By right 2.5RL shouldnt allow Blanc to activate. But feed can be slow, so 2.6-2.7RL can cause Blanc to proc

[uncut portal]

How to counter this team?

It's 2RL, very hard to counter.

[coarse lake]

2rl emi nuke

[uncut portal]

Have any replacement for emilia?

My Emilia is just for burst gen.

[quick lake]

Skip

[uncut portal]

And I'm afraid Emilia might die first before she can burst shot because missile.

[keen vapor]

2 RL Emilia Indom

[uncut portal]

like this?

[glad meteor]

She need buffer

Too high sync

And minimum skill invest for burst to hit all 5

[coarse lake]

emi/blanc/flex/flex/jackal

it's not that complicated

[glad meteor]

Jackal and biscuit s2, so I try not to rely on icbm

[uncut portal]

My Emilia won't good enough , ha ha.

[umbral crown]

[uncut portal]

Jackal won't die and still immune

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

4rl cindy

[uncut portal]

why jackal still have immune?

[glad meteor]

Biscuit s2

[uncut portal]

It's still work even without biscuit?

[glad meteor]

Do you have moran

Invested

[swift mango]

Is this

Emi+Blanc+RH+HelmT+Jackal

?

If so, nothing to improve but treasure Miranda.

If your Emi and Jackal had high CS you could go with Crown instead of HelmT.

[glad meteor]

We can run a superior sanis maybe

Moran noah biscuit sanis lap+/Bsoda

Biscuit s2 lasts for 5s, probably triggers as the damage share happens after icbm hit

[glad meteor]

I think the damage share being split into smaller damage makes it more likely to bring jackal below 50% without killing her

[swift mango]

This want Rumani to have low CS... If she had high CS you might want something like ASS instead of LapT... And move Cindy to p5...

[swift mango]

Yes it is.

[unique mountain]

[swift mango]

You would need to finish Jackal in 2-3 shots after their invulnerable end. Provide Emi don't stop to Reload during that time.

[glad meteor]

Biscuit op

Noah noise biscuit cindy jackal

Noah cindy linked I think. I tested icbm against it once. Triple buffer with crown same sync level. I lost

[swift mango]

Just Noah wall it... With a healer.. it's 3rl team.

Noah+Biscuit+Emi+RH+Rapu should be fine.

[glad meteor]

Yeah, it’s just usually needed a noah elsewhere until I built bay

[swift mango]

If your Emi were buffed enough, you could finish off the Invulnerable defender in 2-3 shots...

Otherwise, don't use Emi I guess

[glad meteor]

I somehow found the video

[whole pawn]

@tropic summit we kinda holding up

[keen vapor]

It wasn't worth it I want to reset units

[umbral crown]

skill issues

[keen vapor]

20k CP from 361 jump

[swift mango]

My whale dude finally decided to take action after fixing his DEF...poor Gemmer...

[umbral crown]

each team?

show me

[keen vapor]

I mean, yes?

[keen vapor]

No, need to save data

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

321 boost gave me 17k per team

[keen vapor]

Just check my blabla link

[umbral crown]

its a pic

[glad meteor]

We in a drought

[keen vapor]

Yes, need to save data

[umbral crown]

use wifi then

whats your total cp now

[keen vapor]

Tomorrow

[keen vapor]

I forgot

[swift mango]

@keen vapor

I think I found your friend.

[keen vapor]

Who

[swift mango]

🧱 friends.

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Time to 2RL Moran Bay Cinderella, I think that could work

[crystal flicker]

Moran Nero Jackal

Def goes brr

[keen vapor]

It only reaches 2.5 with Helm/Emilia

Guess I'll Bay Biscuit then

[swift mango]

We just need to use 2 HelmT. Easy.

[keen vapor]

IT DOESN'T REACHES 2 RL WITH NOAH WTF

my PVP def is doomed

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

It works with Anis

Anis instead of Emilia

Always invest Anis

[keen vapor]

No, not Biscuit Summer Anis Bay Cindy!

Biscuit Summer Anis is my worst team

[keen vapor]

It needs Quantum on exactly Anis for some reason

[swift mango]

2rl Cindy would lose to Noah though...

[keen vapor]

Wait, not Bay

It uses Noah anis

Uuuuuuhhh positions will be Noah Moran right?

Noah needs more tankyness

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

I used to beat 2RL ass with this team. It doesn't need to be lapT. Just a meaty non water, non defender CP pad.

Could use Rapu if you had her.

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

After you wipe at 4-5RL there would be 1 lone invulnerable defender vs Your Blanced something.

[dire root]

Yeah not worth fighting, strongest team in the bracket I think. Cindy OP without noah to counter.

[swift mango]

Strongest in the bracket is a super bad 3rl Cindy flex...

Do you have Scarlet or Blanc?

[dire root]

Well all they need is cindy and good burst gen

they win

I can't beat their burst gen

[swift mango]

It's not good burst gen

More like your burst gen is bad

[dire root]

4 rocket launchers isn't good burst gen?

[swift mango]

Yes it not.

[dire root]

K rocket launchers bad

got it

[swift mango]

It's not. Their team is 3rl and yours is 4. With their Cindy p1 your team becomes 3rl.

But you burst with RH without any protection so you are wiped.

[swift mango]

Also, Crown feed made them 2RL.

[dire root]

crown feed?

I just used crown as a bullet sponge as a defender

[swift mango]

Crown feed jackal around 40 bullets in 2RL, about 14% extra burst gen to them.

I doubt they have quantum lv8 at your level

This would still be 2rl with crown feeding jackal

[dire root]

Rip my burst fired first that time, but no dice, I need a insant kill like cindy.

maybe Rei or something

[swift mango]

Anyway, many ways to beat this team. Do you have Blanc or Scarlet?

[dire root]

Nope

[swift mango]

Do you have Cindy?

[dire root]

Cindy is the perfect counter to me.

since my burst III needs to like live for more then 2 seconds

[swift mango]

Upgrade your Rei A 2 then.

She is a stronger wipe than Scarlet.

[dire root]

Crazy, think she will make it into PvP SSS?

[crystal flicker]

no

She has no feed

[swift mango]

Idk, Scarlet has her counter and high Crit rate. ReiA maybe higher wipe number but not as versatile

[swift mango]

??? ???

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet counter provide burst gen

[swift mango]

Little though...

Just like an extra bullet?

[crystal flicker]

It's nice though against spray and pray lol

[quick lake]

0.45% per counter

[dire root]

Well that team is at the top of the rookie arena bracket, so I suppose no one else could beat cindy either lol

Cindy destroyer of all

[quick lake]

Mid-rella

[dire root]

no one had noah in this bracket I guess

[crystal flicker]

Cindy easy counter with Noah if you're attacking though

Even I back employing SAnis for PvP bcoz of that

[dire root]

I'm so sick of fighting cindy in pvp

she just instantly wins what ever fight she is placed in and I have no counter

I need to build rei 2 I guess

[muted citrus]

What’s a more surefire team against this where assuming you survive the burst, you won’t get killed by the scarlet procs targeting them. This enemy is about a 2.5-3RL burst btw

Bit faster than 3RL

[swift mango]

This should be fine, so long as the CP is good.

[quick lake]

2RL Helm

[crystal flicker]

2RL super nuke

[muted citrus]

I tried 2RL Emilia with noise and it’s a 50/50 if scarlet procs when you target it

Instant death even if you’re within the cp range

[quick lake]

Functionally this

Bloop that jackal link

[swift mango]

Noah+Noise+Biscuit+SBS+Rapu

If you survive the nuke that is.

[crystal flicker]

or Rosanna to delete the link

[swift mango]

Or nuke their P1 blanc

[muted citrus]

I tried:
noah biscuit Emilia RH jackal
Noah noise Emilia biscuit jackal
Noah biscuit RH Emilia jackal
Scarlet Noah Emilia centi jackal

All failed because of the heals and scarlet procs

[quick lake]

2RL xMaiden works too

[crystal flicker]

That's whyyou want instant Nuke

pretty sure Helm isn't linked

[covert lintel]

use drake and one more clip sg to instantly kill off blanc

[swift mango]

Now that I think about it... Maybe his Scarlet isn't linked? That's why he arranged the team like this?

If he is 2.3rl or slower you could just mirror and move Scarlet to p1, provided she is linked...

[swift mango]

Should be at least SS tier B3 and deservingly so. Unlike Alice.

She is above all the Nuker there but Cindy, Ein and B.Soda who have niche usage.

[muted citrus]

I was worried about this because it might feed jackal??

[plucky charm]

do I win this? mine is the drunk scarlet team. If they dont have the cube/charge speed it goes to 4rl

[crystal flicker]

Ditch XMaiden for more burst gen

[swift mango]

Yeah, should be. Unless you can't one shot them after Noise buff.

[plucky charm]

I can't use t.helm cause shes on another team, and centi/anis dont bring it to 2.5rl unless i get feed which idk if it will because its snipers/rl on their team

I just wont be sure if i'll burst before noah invuln goes up

[swift mango]

Or their Noah+noise somehow both had 20% CS.

[plucky charm]

ill swap centi in and send it ig lel

gentlemen we got him thank you

[peak jungle]

Damn that looks so satisfying

[worthy knoll]

Noise(temperance)/Noah(Q7)/Centi or Anis(Q7)/XMaiden(Adj/Q7/Wingman)/Laplace+(Q7/or highest cube you have for elem bonus).

[muted citrus]

Ty for your suggestion!! I will keep this in mind tmr

[tulip quest]

No

Well just opinion

[onyx scaffold]

should i put maiden or quiry in wishlisst

[coarse lake]

.... ig quiry.....

[swift mango]

I think you should pin Merry for Quiry... But Maiden is a no....

Unless waifu ofc...;

[tulip quest]

if you like healing pvp teams

otherwise no she's cliche

[crystal flicker]

I don't see use for Maiden except you're newbie, while Quiry is PvP stall comp

[onyx scaffold]

but then who do i put in slot 5 wishlist

[swift mango]

Well, if maiden is your waifu you want her MLB for burst scene.

[onyx scaffold]

why only mlb if wwaifu

true simp would never remove the girl from wishlist even at c7 -. -

[swift mango]

Well, it's often someone you want to build, someone you want a dupe or someone your waifu.

[onyx scaffold]

miranda and phantom huh

miranda dps

[swift mango]

Miranda is your waifu?

[swift mango]

Miranda Treasure needs at less 2 star to build yeah...

[onyx scaffold]

she is c2 atm

phantom then?

[swift mango]

She is your waifu?

[onyx scaffold]

you are my waifu

[tulip quest]

XD RICH GUY

[swift mango]

DPS could use as much dupe as they can yeah.

[onyx scaffold]

no nikke is my waifu. they are all tools for me to reclaim the surface

[swift mango]

[tulip quest]

RUN

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/kiyotaka-ayanokoji-you-zitsu-anime-stare-look-gif-17935235

[onyx scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/kiyotaka-ayanokoji-you-zitsu-anime-stare-look-gif-17935235

[swift mango]

My Elegg is on my wish list from the begin and I will keep her there to core+7

[onyx scaffold]

so the answer is Quiry then build a stall team?

[tulip quest]

I suggest don't

your gonna have to build her

[onyx scaffold]

is there anyone usable without a need of investment?

[tulip holly]

@tropic summit ay LMAOOOOOO . It's the same guy I downed to get to 4 , the person skipped me and went for 3. Well well well

[tulip quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfBjudEtlGg Keripo is honestly just insane even build quiry this hard, I almost believe is this (Normally) viable

[crystal flicker]

It's for wishlist though

"All Nikkes are nothing but tools. It doesn’t matter how its done. It doesn’t matter what needs to be sacrificed. In this world, winning is everything. As long as I win in the end…That’s all that matters.”
― Dee Pink Kiyotaka

[onyx scaffold]

[tulip holly]

Spotted my guild leader 👀

[swift mango]

Merry Quiry is with 20% CS.

[tulip quest]

She isn't clip tho

[swift mango]

He need that so his rapu+Biscuit+Quiry battery team being 4rl.

[crystal flicker]

That's interesting comp though
But the only reason he win that one is because opponent only use 1 40s B2

[coarse lake]

can't wait for reit to just delete stall comps

They often rely on rapu living the nuke to res, that won't be happening anymore

[crystal flicker]

Seems like Moran comp will become more common

[coarse lake]

Although maybe the Nero Moran helm setup has a slight chance, if quiry or helm can live it

[tulip quest]

the longer they release C.A the more weird comp's will see pvp-arena will cook

[crystal flicker]

1/2 anniv Pilgrim is PvP oriented

[swift mango]

Finally helm and Anchor got out of Ele handicap.

[coarse lake]

[onyx scaffold]

so who here has invested in og sakura?

[coarse lake]

Not me, waste of mats

[onyx scaffold]

but she counters SBS

[coarse lake]

There are much easier counters that don't require brick

[swift mango]

Someone in my union said the only one in his bracket who invested and used Sakura in Arena dropped to diamond 2.

[onyx scaffold]

why does he use sakura in def

[coarse lake]

You gotta be hella desperate and out of options to build her

Maybe if champ has no cp diff, could be worth a try

[swift mango]

Core 7 vs 0lb is already 20% diff.

[coarse lake]

Add on no ol no doll

Unless you actually wanna perma invest into sakura

Needs to turn cp diff off entirely, otherwise prob still won't use

[swift mango]

OL only add % over base CP. Result the same. Doll is minimal flat bonus.

[coarse lake]

Ol is huge source of cp

[swift mango]

Yeah, provide both party have similar tiers in their OL.

There is also Manufacturer bonus that I assume whale would grind for SR already.

It's a bigger difference the lower the synch level is. You could see in co.op.

Someone with blue nikke could be 60k while your core max meta unit is only 50k.

[tulip quest]

At least your wallet Remains CORE 7+

[swift mango]

It's why I wanted to burn all my gem to get core for rei A... But I cheap-ed out and only MLB her...

[tulip quest]

30K GEMS

ONLY 1 COPY

+50 FREE PULLS

[swift mango]

I got her MLB in 150-ish pulls. I stopped after first 50 getting nothing then I pull again after a sleep.

[tulip quest]

The luckiest I had was red hood MLB in 100 pulls

[swift mango]

Still have 160-ish to burn.

[tulip quest]

after that all was downhill

[crystal flicker]

Dumping all to Rei isn't a wise choice imo

consider we get another Pilgrim around 2 months

[swift mango]

You burned all your luck at that pull.

[swift mango]

200 ticket a done

[tulip quest]

I got 3100 gems

still fine TRUST

[crystal flicker]

rather MLB Pilgrim tbh

or imagine if we get another collab

[swift mango]

Well, you could MLB pilgrim randomly over time.

Max core limited you don't have another chance.

And Pligrim pull chance is low.

Not to mention not every Pligrim being meta in Arena.

[crystal flicker]

[tulip quest]

MY CINDY IS CORE 5

[crystal flicker]

Remember we have CA rumour, and Pilgrim banner around the same time

[tulip quest]

NO REGRETS

[crystal flicker]

There's a chance the PIlgrim will be used in PvP

[tulip quest]

She can like normal attack every if noise buffed her 1v5

[swift mango]

Guess I will save to Max core Darkness or Makima eventually.

[severe nimbus]

Im so happy! Rapunzel finally came home through a pilgrim mold. took over 2 years...

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/jalen-hurts-jalen-hurts-meek-mill-i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-gif-13709870523385828441

[swift mango]

I remember we have 2 people with max core Cindy on this chat.

[tulip quest]

Darkness lol EXPLOSION

[upper grove]

Pilgrim who is battery and buffer

[tulip quest]

1 RL DREAM

[swift mango]

On-burst B3 buffer though.

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/latom-gif-24537370

[upper grove]

Will she be water though

[raven plover]

b3 water dps :kekcry:

[swift mango]

Will she called HelmT?

[swift mango]

I don't think we had a Pilgrim of this kind.

So you're probably on to something here

[upper grove]

Only water pilgrim is

[swift mango]

Hoboman the prophet.

[upper grove]

There is still no SMG pilgrim or a good SG pilgrim

[raven plover]

sg clip pilgrim, water

[crystal flicker]

IsabelT

[upper grove]

Isabel copies

Gotta use that skin

[swift mango]

SG pilgrim that does 1000% dmg to 5 target with each of her shot.

[upper grove]

Perfectly balanced

Add a delay like with Emilia

[swift mango]

Yeah a delay for her charged nuke. Not not her normal attack before she burst.

[crystal flicker]

If PIlgrim will ever get treasure, it should be Isabel

[raven plover]

Im not ready if harran get one, shes still lb 0

[swift mango]

Should be snow white first.

[upper grove]

I still have neither Isabel nor Harran

[crystal flicker]

MirandaT is basically SW Treasure though

[upper grove]

Miranda

[swift mango]

Snow White is basically this game version of Enterspire.

Guess they don't want to be called copy of Azur Lane too much so they stop giving her major role after the early stories.

But she deserves the be the first to get treasure.

[crystal flicker]

Isabel bricked longer though

I don't remember Isabel being top picks, even on early days people barely use her for GD

[swift mango]

Based on her significant on the story and appearance order.

[crystal flicker]

I can imagine Harran being SSS PvP if they gave her Treasure

[swift mango]

That's why Maxwell gonna get a treasure and not Crow.

[crystal flicker]

or Scarlet

[swift mango]

Or the other 2 of Noise group.

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet appearance in story pretty early though

[upper grove]

Maxwell joins and

Why no doro maxwell

[swift mango]

Snow White is the first Pilgrim we met.

[crystal flicker]

*Marian

She became Pilgrim the moment you kill her

[swift mango]

She was no pilgrim until Snow white group take her in

She was just a mass produced Nikke.

[crystal flicker]

Chatterbox event ye

[swift mango]

Heretic

[crystal flicker]

I don't think she's mASS produced, but ye she became Herethiccc

[upper grove]

Just gimme behemoth

[crystal flicker]

I'm more interested with Arbiter

[swift mango]

I think the girls in the opening Animation would all get Treasure one way or another.

Noah Treasure ...

Rapu alt though...

[upper grove]

Epinel

[swift mango]

The first wiper I pulled.

Epinel treasure would be epic.

[upper grove]

Styling on the raptures with slick tony hawk moves

[crystal flicker]

Julia treasure

crit goes brr

[swift mango]

Give her 60%+ crit rate at start of battle.

Should be able fix her up to 100% crit then

[crystal flicker]

or just fix Crit formula

[swift mango]

Crit formula in this game has no problem aside from being Additive to Core dmg ... Which doesn't affect Arena anyway...

We need more Crit bonus if anything for it to work well in Arena.

The only major unit with Crit bonus is Scarlet +20%... Who could reach around 60% with heavy investment...

[onyx scaffold]

I'd CRIT

[swift mango]

We need Crit cube, I beg you SU, add it. You added too many useless cubes already.

Give me Crit cube with 20% crit rate max would be fine.

[crystal flicker]

Major Modifiers = 1 + (Crit Damage (0.5 Base (50%))) + Core Hit Bonus 1 (100%) + Range Bonus 0.3 (30%) + Full Burst Bonus 0.5 (50%)
This one ye?

[swift mango]

Ideally 40%

[swift mango]

Yeah

[crystal flicker]

should be FinalDMG * CritDMGStat

[swift mango]

Someone in SU development hate Crit mechanic with a fashion.

Crit Scarlet is pretty unreliable when you attack but when they ATK you with a stall comp, it's them who should pray to not be crited on.

50/50 gaming.

[valid fern]

the cube would probably be at most 2.46% based on how garbage adjudant is compared to its OL counterpart.

[onyx scaffold]

crit should stay being bad

[swift mango]

Well... DEF cube gives like 50% there.

Much better than OL.

[valid fern]

ah true. too bad def kinda useless

[swift mango]

Base of DEF cube, Crit cube should be around 30%.

Then we could have 100% Crit rate Scarlet with 4 black line Crit rate.

[crystal flicker]

crit = character.critRate
isCrit = false
math.rand() < crit ? isCrit == true : isCrit == false

Final Damage = Base Damage * Major Modifiers * Element Bonus Damage * Charge Damage * Weakpoint Damage * (isCrit ? character.critDmg : 1) * Damage Taken Debuff

I think Crit should be excluded from modifier and included directly as final dmg calculation

[swift mango]

Yeah, ideally, crit dmg should be multiple the final dmg directly...

[crystal flicker]

It's been 2 years and crit still bricked

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-huh-what-dog-question-mark-gif-17338208541034173103

[swift mango]

[crystal flicker]

Probably they avoid changing the calculation coz it'll change the whole meta

[swift mango]

They could just release more Crit buffer.

[onyx scaffold]

crit should stay being bad so i dont feel regret removing my black crit rate lines

[onyx scaffold]

crit dmg is best on grave/snow white tho

[onyx scaffold]

yeah so i can skip them easily

[swift mango]

Miranda gaming

[crystal flicker]

It'll kill another buffer though

[swift mango]

Did you skip Mast maid?

[onyx scaffold]

miranda is why snow white is there

[swift mango]

[crystal flicker]

We can't use them in PvP tho

[onyx scaffold]

Im f2p

[crystal flicker]

imagine Scarlet Crit Nuke

or just any AoE nuke with better Crit calculation

[swift mango]

You should have around 83% crit rate on scarlet with

Scarlet+Maid mast+Rossana+HelmT+Jackal and it's still faster than 2.5RL.

Mast maid buff Rossana as well.

Need 4 black line Crit rate on Scarlet though.

[crystal flicker]

100% or brick

[grand plaza]

I don't think I can beat this, right?

[swift mango]

Add normal mast to sacc then

[crystal flicker]

Think it's doable, consider you only have deficit at t3, just need better comp

[grand plaza]

I think this is the best I can do with Nikkes I have

[grand plaza]

Rip, all 3 lose. Expecting to be fair

[crystal flicker]

T1 very slow coz there's Alice instead of RL, T2 probably Quency die first, T3 just deficit

[crystal flicker]

tbh, T1 can win if you shove Jackal instead of ALice and still over 104K CP, T2 just need to nuke rouge somehow

[swift mango]

How did your team 2 lose though? Quency not linked?

Or not strong enough to one shot kill Cindy?

<@&946725432554836008>

Guess mod is slow acting today...

[valid fern]

osoiii

[swift mango]

Could someone else @mod? Maybe the bot doesn't reply to someone with a warning.

I got a warning on posting link to nsfw content before.

[pale knoll]

<@&946725432554836008>

[valid fern]

mods asleep. post more nsfw links

[pale knoll]

Fr

[eager mountain]

woah free $50!

[unique mountain]

Mods

[grand plaza]

I do not have a strong RL, and if I use jackal and anis on the same team, my other team definitely loses burst gen or CP, or both at the same time.

[grand plaza]

Video recorder didn't work for some reason so I couldn't post but yeah Quency couldn't finish them off.

[covert lintel]

so jackal lose position as the fastest now

[onyx scaffold]

u r a month late

[tight urchin]

Does anybody have a full pvp team build recomendations?

I can sycn people if needed

[covert lintel]

there is still no prydwen article last month

[swift mango]

Jackie Chan can do 56.8% by herself in 2rl vs 2sg.

Jackal still stronk

[sleek root]

I got my Quantum cube to lv8, honestly i dont think i need to level it higher. Whats best next? Tempering? Adjutant?

[sleek root]

Nikkes that Jackal's link = more burst gen when attacked. The chart is base on solo performance, i think. Correct me if im wrong.

[keen vapor]

I did both, yes

[sleek root]

Which would u choose if u had to?

Adjutant felt like a poorman ver. of Quantum

At least tempering buffed u up beefier shrug

[keen vapor]

Depends if you have some RL units with 15% charge speed

I use tempering for any unit I want to keep alive (Blanc, Noise, Moran)

[sleek root]

I guess i'l make it to Lv7 at least for the Lv3 skill

Same as Adjutant

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Idk if I want Adjustant at lv7 though.

If the CN formula for CS is right and Adjustant lv 3 and lv7 give the same charge speed....

[sleek root]

I'll leave it be then and let it lvl up from whatever i get from SR battery drops

It's lv6 ad without me investing on it

[swift mango]

I upgraded it to 6 first day of union raid but now Idk if I should upgrade it further.

[keen vapor]

I leveled up for nothing?

[sleek root]

How about Vigor? worth lvling?

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

It's bis for Cindy and could be used like tempering but defend on you.

It's also mainstay on my biscuit because I want her to have more HP than Emi.

[keen vapor]

Biscuit also needs high HP to avoid problems with double proc on her defender skill

[swift mango]

You mean she need to survive to proc 2nd time? Tempering could also do that.

[keen vapor]

You didn't pay attention to my suffering

If defender is still under 50% HP the skill will proc twice in a row instantly

[swift mango]

It's Moran something Idk if vigor could fix it.

I wish Maid Mast was RL instead of MG.

[crystal flicker]

It's gonna be hard PvP to get high rank because I see Rem and sync 150

Chime with helmet down will just be a skin like SW lmao

[swift mango]

Just realized the whole plot about Rapi and inheritance power with part of Red Hood inside her was basically copied from the story of Claymore's MC.

And ofc there would never be a Claymore Collab.

[swift mango]

Maybe he had 100000h of core box stacked.

[red owl]

its a sad day for me in this bracket, 4 ppl in the same 2 unions

[wise horizon]

Rookie. Need help and I don’t have Noah to clear this lot @tropic summit

[sleek root]

How many atk OL does Rosanna need? 43% enough?

[upper grove]

43% is like almost 4 tier 11 lines

[sleek root]

Yea, i didn't know how much was neded, so i just reroll until i got all atk OL line, and thats what th total amount i get

[upper grove]

Just test it I guess, only 1% rolls can improve on that

[covert lintel]

enough, get 4 crit rate too

did this guy surrender?
he is not atking me today

i'm surprised no one atk him despite has the lowest level in top 10

[shell hazel]

we merged brackets but the top 6 is the same top 6 from my old bracket (sp-arena)

though it's taken a few days to resolve to this, top 4-10 change around a fair bit still

[shell hazel]

no Noah but you're gapping the middle one to cp deficit if you run a mirror comp

[solemn moth]

any suggestion for sp?

[shell hazel]

what defence are you currently running? Cindy in P1 is bad unless you know what you're doing

switch to landscape mode if you can to post your nikkes it's more readable

[tropic summit]

hey natsu, you mean for attack or defense? swap to a 2RL faster team if standard scar indom is failing

[solemn moth]

hopefully this is better

[upper grove]

Post your box outside of arena

[shell hazel]

for def teams yes that is useful, but for power sort it's way off lol

nikke ordered by power outside of arena would be very useful indeed (as above) 🙂

[strong hull]

[solemn moth]

third times a charm

[tropic summit]

jackal privaty maxwell modernia noah
blanc sbs laplace centi rapu
dkw privaty:UM liter anis maiden

wishlist: get reiT from current banner, wishlist rumani, biscuit, cinderella, redhood, RRH

[shell hazel]

let me try a cook on this one above Railtracer you can then say how badly wrong I am 😄

[tropic summit]

now fight with your teeth to keep ch3, see if you can get the chance on ch1 or ch2, but only later down the day, that way you can stay defensive as needed

[tropic summit]

wow so many ppl hitting you for that ch7, looking good tho for once

[tropic summit]

sure go ahead

[whole pawn]

hopefull it stays like that

[tropic summit]

if you mean on how to deal with those 3 teams, well... you gonna need either 2RL rosanna/helmT/xmaiden on decent investiment, anything else would kinda require noah or at the least a bay

[shell hazel]

first of all I will say....

is laplace treasured?

[solemn moth]

im a bit lazy lmao i just dont know what to invest and yes lap is treasured

[tropic summit]

campaign core units on 3rd line

[shell hazel]

this is the pvp channel but your core pve team should be Crown / Rapi (b1) / Naga (b2 off-burst heal) and 2 x DPS

so you should 100% get those boosted up the list, as they are extremely strong units

[solemn moth]

hmm thanks for the tip and im on it

[shell hazel]

Rapi is probably the best b1 in the game, and crown is the best b2

[upper grove]

Rail, my scarlet only nukes cindy and biscuit successfully 100% of the time. Liter its like 40% of the time she survives, I'll have Scarlet burst lvl 7 in 2-3 days will report then. If liter survives xmaid nukes my team

[tropic summit]

crown doesn't buff well in that comp, you're better off with a proper B2

grave, mari, blanc, poli, anchor:IM

[upper grove]

Blanc doesn't survive, I'm trying to get her SR5

[shell hazel]

these are your comps atm in terms of RL burst speed

[tropic summit]

remind me your jackal is used elsewhere?

[shell hazel]

we can definitely improve this, you want at least 2 x 3RL teams and a CP pad team, or 3 x 3RL or quicker

[tropic summit]

and no rumani right?

[whole pawn]

i want noah

[upper grove]

I do have rumani, she's lowest cp pvp unit though

[tropic summit]

oh then you can do it

[whole pawn]

and noise, and rapunzel, and crown

[upper grove]

Sub in rumani for centi centi to team 1?

[shell hazel]

do you happen to have a wild Noah hanging around the bottom of the list I can't see? 😄

[tropic summit]

check whatever is best in terms of CP between these 2

you can essentially swap around helmT/centi as needed

ensure in T1 scarlet is 1st or 2nd highest atk%, else you can't run her in p1

as she needs to be linked with jackal

[upper grove]

My teams will be fixed and have 100% success rate if I can nuke liter with scar burst 7 and blanc debuff once solo raid starts anyway, just need an alternative in case it doesn't work

[solemn moth]

sadly if had one i would have use her sorry

[tropic summit]

alternative would be the table on the right (number 2), it has double buff scarlet and ensured link, just needa check CP

[solemn moth]

oh wow it worked with a 70k difference wtf

[upper grove]

Team 1 definitely not scar linked, rh and laplave both have doll maxed, scar just sr5

Variation 2 too low sadly

[shell hazel]

for team 1/2 thinking this but we can't use Noah, @tropic summit what do we do here without a Noah?

[upper grove]

Tbf centi still has no OL, I'm upgrading asap

[tropic summit]

either you manage to get a team that can get scar linked and runs double buff or that approach is to be scratched

[upper grove]

Used too many OL for SR and campaign, now I can finally start pvp units

[glad meteor]

They could maybe put clip sg for centi

As long as link not stolen

[upper grove]

I have 0 clip SG invested haha

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

But noir bsoda for pve

[upper grove]

Playing from behind with no pvp units properly overloaded

Noir has 7/5/4 but no OL, bsoda literally base unit

[tropic summit]

T2 is fine... but i don't get the question for T1, essentially you want a clip RL in p1 that can sub for noah?

you gonna need a flex B2, noise in p5 and a clip SG in p4

example above

[shell hazel]

Noah is useful for her anti-nuke as well though right?

[tropic summit]

this is also an option btw

[tropic summit]

yeah noah gives anti nuke, while doubling down as defender taunter and clip RL

[shell hazel]

do you think we can do a decent team 3 or is that better just cp stack?

[tropic summit]

so much value in a single unit it's almost disgusting

[shell hazel]

they have s.anis and lap tr but I don't use/have them

so unsure how they'd apply 🙂

[sleek root]

Bay also is a good anti nuke, but only works on some type of nuke

[shell hazel]

I'm here largely carried by this comp. Had to sub in say SBS for some stages, or Alice, but this is what I ran 98% of the time

[upper grove]

Malding with cindy makes it way more difficult tbh

[solemn moth]

thanks for sharing a team comp i was still using the good old liter andbunny sisters comp

[sleek root]

I haven't put Cindy in my sp comp in a while. Her delay nuke is a bummer tbh imo

[tropic summit]

hmm if they had rumani it could've been enough to form a 3rd

with grave subbing blanc in T1

then subbing someone else instead of grave in T2

(e.g. naga or flex B2)

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

what role does og maiden do here? I haven't invested or seen mine used 😄

[tropic summit]

i'd say stick to this + cp padded team with biscuit in p4 and crown in p1

@shell hazel

[tropic summit]

just clip SG, she won't burst else she'd be a mid nuker

[shell hazel]

invest in/swap to these asap don't look back, the bunnies are still good for raids and things, and for pvp so not wasted. need to have SBS / Alice built some as well for later stages

[tropic summit]

once rumani/noah are found can definitly make a 3rd team

[sleek root]

17% CS OL is the breakthrough for Jackal?

[shell hazel]

@solemn moth run these teams as Railtracer says. for 3rd team Crown p1 / Biscuit P4 and then you need a good cp burst 1 / 2 burst 3's (so your strongest leftover burst 3's here)

b1 probably liter, b3 probably laplace + alice

if your b1 dies you can't burst on this comp so I'd say do crown / laplace / liter / biscuit / alice

[tropic summit]

yes

[sleek root]

[shell hazel]

check how much attack your Noir has as well, because in the scarlet team you want the link to be shared with RH + Scarlet, if Noir has too much attack she'll steal it

the atk stat on character page isn't accurate, you need to calculate it with OL lines in mind as well. Any atk % lines will impact it

can use blabla page to add those up and then it's atk on character page * atk multiplier (if you had say 30% atk lines on OL summed up it would be atk * 1.30)

[upper grove]

I can't calc right now, would this work? I go for their cp pad team instead which has huge feed. Crown is the only b2 which lets me not go down to deficit and cindy is the only pad who doesn't steal link. Can't check atm whether my team 2 is fast enough

[sleek root]

Got 17.62% Nice!

The jackal link, will make it 2RL?

[tropic summit]

can't use laplace, you're too slow

this on the other hand would work, CP allowing

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/small-petite-tiny-wee-chandler-bing-gif-15401586

[tropic summit]

I swear it if wasn't for CP every damn time, please CA come already with lvl locked

[umbral crown]

He could be 301 but smol issues

[sleek root]

Man... i just finish binging all 10season of Friends. Thats how it end? My Joey still alone

[upper grove]

Yup still in range

[tropic summit]

then go get em

[umbral crown]

No ides tbh

[upper grove]

No attempts left

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squidward-hash-slinging-slasher-night-shift-gif-6090408256404849299

Go gem, send a message

[upper grove]

I just noticed I still have 3 of my sp free attempts left

[umbral crown]

Saving them for nikke 3? Go use them

[upper grove]

Sending a message

[glad meteor]

Technically RH can b2

[umbral crown]

And B3

[upper grove]

Yep easy win

Thanks!

They almost died before scar could even burst because of feed

[upper grove]

Yes, all my other pad units steal link though

[tropic summit]

bricked scarlet, then again might aswell bench her and just run reiT instead

[upper grove]

I'll upgrade her after my other units get their OLs and dolls upgraded

I would need to farm 2 pieces for rei OL and then no guaranteed rock per day 🧱

[tropic summit]

Nikke 3? Where's my FP shooter Nikke 2.0 let's start with that

[stuck pebble]

any tips about teams for special arena ?

[tropic summit]

refer to these

#pvp-arena message

[stuck pebble]

thanks

are those for defense teams specifically ?

[tropic summit]

yes they're all purpose defense teams, some may also work on attack, but on attack you'd generally tailor them based on what you facing

[stuck pebble]

i'm not really good at team countering tho. any suggestions?

[tropic summit]

the most generic approach is to alternate using a noah team and a scarlet team

-scarlet for anything that has MGs/SGs/SMGs even rifles depending on scenarios, 3RL or 2.5RL
-noah team against anything that is nuke oriented (enemy scarlet teams, cinderella and the likes), the trick with noah is to understand whether you need to 2RL or 3RL (fast teams against standard teams)

you'd need to inform yourself a bit more to grasp it, although you can start with the above until you hit dia1-challanger ranks

most teams will likely be rubble until then

[stuck pebble]

hmmm i'm currently at dia6. i'm worried cause i was kicked from my comfy dia4

[tropic summit]

i suggest giving this a read if you're unfamiliar with arena mechanics and have been just sending teams based on total CP

https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

[stuck pebble]

aight. time to cook

[sleek root]

Rocket whiffing still a thing?

[tropic summit]

i've yet to experience it in the past 9+ months

i'd say it is fixed

[sleek root]

I thought it was fix

[unique mountain]

[umbral crown]

[signal stratus]

Could anyone recommend me SP arena teams, please?
I have majority of useful Nikkes except RH.
HelmT is 10/10/4 P2

[covert lintel]

i thought i could get 2RL for 2 team but meh all of them 2.5

[tropic summit]

possibly VR and can crouch/prone, for science purposes.

[umbral crown]

I like that ideakl

[upper grove]

Question in general: if 2 teams have the same speed and it's Noah buff vs any instant nuke, it's just a gamble right?

[tropic summit]

no, noah is a B2, nuke is a B3, noah will cast it faster if on same speed

[upper grove]

So for my team earlier: why was it important to hit 2RL with helm instead of Laplace 3RL as Laplace nukes their team more? I want to learn

[tropic summit]

3RL is slower than 2RL

2RL B3 will happen before 3RL B2

[upper grove]

Both teams were 3RL though

[tropic summit]

ah seems like we gotta take it a step back first

scarlet+jackal can hit 2RL with feed

assume that whenever you dealing with that it's between 2RL and 2.5RL

[upper grove]

That explains it, forgot about scar jack feed

My bad, just looked at speed and if I can match their stats

[faint sage]

Can I get help forming two arena teams?

[upper grove]

I just hope my scar burst 7 later is reliable enough at least I can abuse his pad team

[tropic summit]

wishlist asap: noah, centi, biscuit, rapunzel, noise, push for helm treasure

[faint sage]

Thank you

[stuck pebble]

welp, got back to dia4

[umbral crown]

Do you see

[crystal pine]

Could someone help me by putting together pvp equipment?

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
naga centi cind emilia noise
noah biscuit pepper sbs s.anis (s.anis and SBS are swappable B3 as needed, prefer s.anis against biscuit stall teams)

cubes:

quantum on jackal, centi
vigor on biscuit, pepper, blanc, noise
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis, s.anis must've no OL ammo lines and burst level 9 minimun
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

notes: wishlist rumani, get helm treasured asap to promote cindy team into 2RL (actual 3RL)

[tropic summit]

another fallen non whale... meanwhile all whales not quitting

(was a hero running quiry stall teams, sadge)

[unique mountain]

Whales selling their accounts , and they get bought cause it have skins

No one buying a filthy f2p account

[swift mango]

F2P account with Makima can go for at least 10$ even if it bricked.

And never played

[unique mountain]

10$ if csm doesn't rerun during season 2 , otherwise 5$ rn

[swift mango]

We have CSM rerun schedule right now?

[unique mountain]

We have wishful thinking

[pale knoll]

You ain't doing anything with 10$

[unique mountain]

Let me in

[swift mango]

Well, if you have every Collab characters it could go for 100$+

[strong hull]

At least better than 1194 skin and none can afford it

Lol

[pale knoll]

Look for the prince of Cambodia, surely he'll buy it

[strong hull]

[pale knoll]

If its bricked I highly doubt it

[strong hull]

Selling it to Mr Beast it is

100k$

[pale knoll]

[strong hull]

[swift mango]

If it not bricked you could probably go for few hundreds.

[tropic summit]

🤨

why would anyone want to buy and play on that

[tight urchin]

Does any one have recomendations for pvp team?

[strong hull]

None

[strong hull]

Nice bricked account

[tropic summit]

check your pings, it's already done

#pvp-arena message

[tight urchin]

Thanks i went to sleep and forgot

[swift mango]

Idk I have seen brick lv100ish account with all Collab characters go for 50+$ before. People come for Facebook to asked for those account even.

[strong hull]

Sync 400 already 100$ above

[swift mango]

Synch 400 with all Collab characters is still considered bricked.

[pale knoll]

Lots of scams tho

[signal stratus]

Can anyone help me to put together some decent arena teams?
HelmT is p2

Pretty please 🙂

[swift mango]

It happens to both side.

[strong hull]

It is

But very worth

[strange linden]

what's the best counter against this team? my sbs get consistently one shot

[strong hull]

Dont start @pale knoll

[pale knoll]

Noah noise biscuits cinderella thelm probably

If its 3 rl that is

[pale knoll]

Go sell your acc already mf

[umbral crown]

[strong hull]

how

1194 Skins

[swift mango]

Looks 2rl enough to me.

[pale knoll]

Already told you to look for the prince of Cambodia

[strange linden]

if it is 21% emilia and quantum, that's 2.5rl

[umbral crown]

If all skins, give them all to me

[swift mango]

Your synch level and deficit? One shot by Scarlet or Rossana?

[strong hull]

Prince of Cambridge aint gonna play that

[umbral crown]

Try to go 2 RL

[strong hull]

[pale knoll]

Noise for rumani?

[pale knoll]

I said Cambodia, Cambridge

[strong hull]

Nice Campuchia

[strange linden]

rosanna when she burst, my helm survive somehow even though she's water
i tried this team btw

[pale knoll]

It's close to your country anyways

[strong hull]

Ig Dangel can afford it

Ill offer him 50k

[strange linden]

replacing sbs with cinderella still makes it 2RL, I'll try this one

[swift mango]

Nah, it's 2rl with 20 feeds. Easy to get to if Emi+Scarlet linked.

[pale knoll]

How did it proceed?

[pale knoll]

Nah, he broke. Offer to gleam

Oh yeah, your sbs got nuked right?

That's why I said cindy

[strange linden]

rosanna burst and killed my sbs but not thelm so she burst instead and beat his team but it feels like a fluke

I'll try cinderella

[pale knoll]

I mean, thelm can easily nuke the links so I don't see the problem

[swift mango]

SBS Probably got countered by Scarlet and hit by Emi too much.

Replace Rumani with Rapu or Noise.

[strong hull]

You interest?

[swift mango]

it's more like their Rossana didn't have enough Ele.

[strange linden]

the problem is thelm is water and rosanna electric, I don't understand how she survives to begin with, it's probably no crit and a lot of luck

[strong hull]

Because we are bro so ill get you 60k

[pale knoll]

Maybe rosanna isn't invested enough, true

[tropic summit]

noah rumani cind biscuit helm, 2RL

[harsh echo]

oh god im pulled all the way down to dia3?!

[strange linden]

so weird though, my sbs is SR15
I thought rosanna can't oneshot anymore because of that

[pale knoll]

Scarlet counters, just go with the cindy team i said before

2rl easy

[swift mango]

It's funny to have easier bracket now while looking at all people having easy bracket before struggling.

[tropic summit]

elem weakness she for sure can, non elem weakness you might live, look at my SR15 RH HP after taking an invested ross shot

[strange linden]

Laplace as the main burst?

[tropic summit]

it's not 2RL tho, needs rumani over noise

[pale knoll]

That's what I said tho, read afterwards

[covert lintel]

yes

[swift mango]

Well, if you use Cindy instead of SBS, ofc it's not 2rl. But you could still catch 2rl if your HelmT had about 20% CS.

[strange linden]

where did she get hit after rosanna burst? it was like that for my sbs too, let her at 1% then died for some reason

[tropic summit]

scarlet s2

[swift mango]

Scarlet counter, did you read my comment.

[swift mango]

Also, Emilia can hit P3.

[strange linden]

oh, I didn't saw scarlet on the vid

works fine with cindy, thanks for the tip

[pale knoll]

[swift mango]

You was talking about your SBS. There is scarlet on the vid though.

[covert lintel]

my opponent is like this, and that was guaranteed win

[swift mango]

Try win this at 25% deficit

[unique mountain]

[covert lintel]

if my noise or noah are squishy, i change position so rapun get burst

[fallow nebula]

Help my defense sucks

People keep beating me

Also have emma

[unique mountain]

Emma sucks

I assume your drake has max T

[strange linden]

checking on the top 3 comps, I guess that's supposed to be a stall team
Is it good?

[pale knoll]

What are the defenses bro

Did you cook it yourself?

[umbral crown]

Kinda

Its an interesting idea tbh

[fallow nebula]

Yes

[umbral crown]

You need to share your nikkes in horizontal mode shorted by power to see your invested ones

[strange linden]

I might stole it then
my Moran is kinda built albeit a bit on the low on the cp because of bad ol stats

[swift mango]

This looks nice

I may copy it. Need HelmT to have high CS though.

And phase 3 ofc.

[glad meteor]

@quartz prawn I got that boi. Can’t snipe. Gotta go somewhere

[fallow nebula]

Anyone? 😦

Guess that means my team is good as is

[covert lintel]

it's ez to counter with emi
healing is rather pointless if you get one shot from her

[strange linden]

even with double DEF burst? 🤔

[swift mango]

Well the problem is if Emi is strong enough to one shot.

[covert lintel]

yes, my opponent is similar to that comp, but still get one shot from my emi

[fallow nebula]

Rosanna removes buffs

[covert lintel]

right now emi can get buff from rh, blanc, and helmT
no one can stop her

[umbral crown]

You have not yet?

[swift mango]

Not yet phase 3

[umbral crown]

Without selecting anyone

[umbral crown]

Bricked

[covert lintel]

🧱

[quartz prawn]

ur still 1st place

[swift mango]

Today was dangerously close... I left 7 dispatches to reset later and almost got reset for real... Only 40 seconds left when I check it just then...

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

yeah that's a 21%CS emi, natural 2.5RL promoted to 2RL with feed

[tropic summit]

cindy in p1, scarlet together with s.anis and what in the world is that third team?

daily reminder of what cindy in p1 does

[fallow nebula]

Cindy is a defender so biscuit protects here, by having her in p1 shes always lowest hp so shes the target for blanc indom

[tropic summit]

stop a second and watch the video please

cindy in p1 causes teams to gain 1.75x extra burst due to target skip

[fallow nebula]

O cant watch videos rn

[tropic summit]

you're helping the enemy

[fallow nebula]

Will swotch

[tropic summit]

aye and that's 1 issue

second team running a lot of feed, scarlet not even bursting
lastly, third team is running tia in p1, that's a delayed burst on 3RL, you're as good as dead against equal speed teams, also poli feeds

[unique mountain]

[fallow nebula]

Do u have some comp ideas? I dont have the units like moran or rumani

[tropic summit]

yes, credits to Rheax, can take inspiration from any of these, aim for faster teams (2RL or 3RL)

#pvp-arena message

[fallow nebula]

Whats the point of emilia if shes not bursting?

[tropic summit]

battery, used for burst gen

when you got some free time, this is a good read for overall mechanics

https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

[tropic summit]

[unique mountain]

[tropic summit]

blood gem income is concerning

[swift mango]

Yeah, my gem income in Honkai is pretty bad now that I only do daily

[tropic summit]

if only it was only in honkai

[unique mountain]

Resetting is fine (i have 100k gems in the bank)

[swift mango]

I have 50k now

[pale knoll]

Alt?

[fallow nebula]

Do ppl still use shotgun teams

Oh wait thats for attack

[tropic summit]

not on defense

[unique mountain]

Main

[tropic summit]

yep

[pale knoll]

Did you buy dupes?

[unique mountain]

I don't hab any alt

[fallow nebula]

Can you share one btw, havent updated since sugar and drake were the attack shotgun meta

[swift mango]

Is this Resilience or Bastion

[terse abyss]

wish the def info tell me which team lost against the opponent

[tropic summit]

well meta has shifted from shotgun teams to 2RL variation of either cindy, scarlet, emilia or sbs... with reit probably joining the fray soon.

share which kind of team?

[unique mountain]

If I don't unlock destruction cube before solo raid starts , will i still get that cube batteries?

[unique mountain]

You should be able to differentiate between the shades of blue , fake pvper

[swift mango]

I don't use bastion that much but I remember resilience is fatter.

[unique mountain]

My rrh steal alice carrot when sbs bursts on kraken , is fine

[pale knoll]

Yes

[feral thistle]

thanks for your answer! im kynda new in a lot of the lingo you used KEK. Could you tell me what do you mean by this? :-an indom team (as T1, depending on needs either s.anis or sbs)
-a 3RL to promote asap to 2RL cindy nuke"

also, can you tell me an attack team for the 3 teams?

(here is my invesment in rossana)

[swift mango]

So SBS self buff on her skill 3 isn't counted?

Oh nvm Got it.

[tropic summit]

example of indom team (a specific B3 that you make unkillable for 10s with blanc)

[unique mountain]

I meant rrh steal from alice, sbs has 100% uptime on carrot , alice gets it when alice bursts

[swift mango]

That's actually better.

[unique mountain]

Need example of indom doxxing my enemy home address

How many rookie arena attacks needed for daily mission

[tropic summit]

example of 2RL cindy (hits burst faster than a standard 3RL)

RL = rocket launcher shots needed to hit burst

[swift mango]

Did HelmT s2 buff triggered? Or she killed before FB?

[swift mango]

2

[unique mountain]

Kk

[tropic summit]

teams are both on 2RL

considering cindy nuke is delayed, i'd assume it has time to trigger

wouldn't be so sure against a scarlet

then again you wouldn't run 2RL indom SBS against a scarlet

[swift mango]

Not if HelmT got hit first and one shot.

[tropic summit]

yeah that's RNG

cindy could be hitting anyone for first

it still wouldn't be relevant, i think SBS self buff + blanc would be enough regardless

i've fought the same matchup 3 times already, same results

[unique mountain]

#1344216920722767913 message

[feral thistle]

thanks again for the answer 💚 one more thing, do you think my attack teams are good?

and this is my defense team and attack team for rookie arena:

[tropic summit]

they're pretty bad, follow what I posted for you in terms of def teams

T1: 4RL, high feed and rosanna in p2, loses concealment immediatly, tia in p1 makes it even worse as if she was to burst she'd further delay your chain

T2: too slow, rapunzel in p1 literally throwing away your chance to revive, alice and sakura are meaningless there if not just for CP reasons

T3: the only somewat functional team, at least to get SBS indommed, but RH is completely wasted as she won't get to cast either B1 or B3, also blanc in p1 is exposed... you better pray she lives to 3RL burst

def teams: #pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

rookie:

too slow, also feed from s.anis and RH won't be able to cast B1, i suppose the intent here was just to slap high CP units

rookie atk team is equally slow, with a very high chance of giving by mistake indom to biscuit as she's in p2

change those asap

[swift mango]

His Biscuit and S.Anis could be linked instead of Red hood.

[tropic summit]

good luck getting biscuit to have more atk than s.anis and RH, i'd question the logic into having that in the first place

[swift mango]

Just need to get lucky with your OL and get 4 AtK line on Biscuit and lucky to core+ her when RH has 1-2atk line and low LB.

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

Only 40 seconds difference.

[signal stratus]

Could anyone please recommend me some arena teams based on the nikkes I have?

[swift mango]

Helm treasure?

[signal stratus]

10/10/4 p2

[tropic summit]

why would you want that anyway

[swift mango]

No one wants that it just come to you unannounced.

[swift mango]

Emi 21%?

[signal stratus]

Sorry, but I'm a noob when it comes to pvp 😛 Not sure what you mean by 21%

[sleek ginkgo]

How can I beat this team ?

[swift mango]

Your Emi total s1+ OL charge speed equal around 21%

[signal stratus]

No, but I have some rocks so I can roll for charge speed to get to 21% if needed

[swift mango]

[signal stratus]

Thank you! Really appreciate it.
Could you also recommend a rookie arena lineup?

[swift mango]

No

[signal stratus]

Aight. Thanks again.

[keen vapor]

Hi there

[tropic summit]

oh the ultra stall team

i think scarlet cracked it already before?

[keen vapor]

You can't we did it

[sleek ginkgo]

Scar jack indom lose

[tropic summit]

i imagine you kill helm and leave laplace alive

can go for rosanna variation then

[keen vapor]

Invincible team let's gooooooooo

[sleek ginkgo]

What is Rosanna team ?

[tropic summit]

the attacker killer team

laplace is gonna need to survive scarlet + rosanna pressure

[sleek ginkgo]

Rosanna doesn't need investment ?

[tropic summit]

she does

7/x/10 with 20% atk should do

[vapid lake]

how fast is noah helmT laplaceT

theres no way that's 2rl right

[tropic summit]

that's a 3RL if you mean the moran one

[drifting schooner]

i have a question, in this team, why is jackal link on sbs and alice, when sbs has 169k atk, alice 181k, helm 180k

[tropic summit]

attack OL, those also count

[swift mango]

Could easily catch a 2rl with enough CS.

[sleek ginkgo]

Only Rosanna can deal with this team ? I may copy him

[drifting schooner]

ohhh

[tropic summit]

well not really

[quasi prism]

Rail, what would beat this team? https://i.gyazo.com/b58a11db28759cc3e8885e83d401d36b.jpg

[tropic summit]

i don't think that team can survive a triple buffed emi nuke

because that's the other option

oh colour me surprised @swift mango @last lagoon

doesn't even need CS% 🤔

[sleek ginkgo]

What is this team also ?

[vapid lake]

time to invest moran

(after april pilgrim)

[vapid lake]

i need new def teams after cindy got nerfed, i suspect the ppl in my bracket know about it

[tropic summit]

stall teams are gonna be the only optional def i fear

but that's only if they can survive emi and rosanna

and obviously scarlet and reiT

[vapid lake]

no emi in my bracket its k

[tropic summit]

that's already minus one then

@sleek ginkgo if you try the emi team take a video for science, i don't think we've seen one killing it with emi nuke on triple buff yet

but it should, if it doesn't it would be concerning

[keen vapor]

And MLB

[sleek ginkgo]

Okay

[tropic summit]

4 OL ye

[tropic summit]

uhhhh let's see

[feral thistle]

sooo how should i change them? 'cause i see what you are telling me is wrong, but my ass is dumb to see a good composition for a team. sorry if you are giving me the answer, but i need a "use this team". really, thanks a lot for taking all this time for teaching me

[tropic summit]

what B3s do you've? we've to go for 2RL indom or taunter + biscuit

[tropic summit]

this for example would take care of that

[quasi prism]

I could rock that

Centi is the only one I have without ol gear currently

but other then that everyone else is fine

shouldn't be too much of a cp gap

[tropic summit]

ensure you're not on CP deficit and that helmT has more HP than SBS (give her a vigor cube in case)

SBS needs to be lower HP than jackal and helmT to work

[tropic summit]

the rookie teams? use either of the 2 meta teams i gave you in the other post

[quasi prism]

yeah it's like 10k cp gap

basically nothing

ah shoot

[tropic summit]

here use this one for rookie (can be used for both atk and def)

[quasi prism]

centi took the indom buff

[feral thistle]

i bow to you teacher

[quasi prism]

Could i replace centi with someone else?

[tropic summit]

err, let's nitpick:

1. SBS has lower HP than helmT and jackal
2. SBS is 1st or 2nd highest atk% in the team
3. centi being in p4 shouldn't be hit by anything
4. helmT is phase 2 s1 lvl 10

if your centi got indom, it means one of the above wasn't true

[quasi prism]

my helm s1 isn't level 10

[tropic summit]

there we go

[quasi prism]

I've been working on finishing up anchor to work on helm atm ;-;

She's just sitting at 4/4/4

[tropic summit]

well it's fine, if anything you saw what happens if helmT doesn't match that condition