pvp-arena

[swift mango]

Just keep your current team. If it works it works.

[tropic summit]

what in the world is that team

[whole pawn]

nah, i think i should aim for chal 8-10

[swift dragon]

It will take a time, but I will try to max them three in the following month

[tropic summit]

why the f is ch7 so much higher than ch5 and why are you so low on CP

[shell hazel]

5 rocks and this is the best my SBS got on rolling the helm

[tropic summit]

yes that's a solid plan, you gonna need those

[swift mango]

Low level team just doing their best.

[whole pawn]

my guy propably doesnt even play his attempts, and he still get his 2.4k gems, he propably isnt even trying

[swift dragon]

I mean if like my most invested units

10/10/10 skills, maxed purple doll, and maxed OL gear

[tropic summit]

damn right probably doesn't give a f

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/asian-girl-brick-brick-throw-kill-gif-25574003

[whole pawn]

the only reason he is cchal 7 is because someone took it, a whale ig

[swift dragon]

If yes, I will start right now

[tropic summit]

do we've anyone else? ch6?

[shell hazel]

i'll OL more pieces and see what is the worst one before I waste more rocks here 😄

[tropic summit]

batteries/utilities only need 4/4/4, 4 OL lvl 0, SR5 doll

[outer grail]

well this is all I have for now what do you think what cube should alice use?

[whole pawn]

[swift mango]

Well, neither, use your resilience. If she ded, Rapu would Rev her. Isn't that your purpose?

[swift dragon]

Isn't that low inversion?

[tropic summit]

just turn it into a full CP pad team, that thing is a 6RL

[tropic summit]

remind me you've noah right?

[swift mango]

5rl

[whole pawn]

ppl seems to evolve and we got 2 whales

[whole pawn]

no noah, no crown, no rapunzel, no noise

[tropic summit]

ok i guess you sleep now, see you tomorrow, those opponents are no good for you

[outer grail]

thanks I better turn them into full cp team btw can I have that excel?

[whole pawn]

hopefully i can stay on chal 8 for a bit xd

i will monitor the situation to use my last attempt in case

[swift mango]

Check pin.

[tropic summit]

stick to upper challanger and let those fight each others, maybe you can sneak in any leftover

[unique mountain]

[outer grail]

yes but the answer below shows me that this team is tereible 6RL so I will turn them into full cp instead

[swift mango]

Your team is 5rl not 6.

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[outer grail]

thank you!

[swift dragon]

Is it not worth going with more inversion?

[whole pawn]

its full of whales and chinese player

[tropic summit]

what? that's what you want on those specific nikke, no need 10/10/10, waste of books

[tropic summit]

fun times ahead, 3 months like that await you

[swift mango]

99% people saying their bracket having more than 3 whale are just level bricked.

[swift dragon]

Idk, usually that's what I've been doing with the Nikkes I've been using. Pick one, max it, go to the next one

[tropic summit]

that's what whales do

[tropic summit]

yeah no, that's waste of resources depending on who you end up doing that with

[whole pawn]

ok blood I know you are built different

[swift mango]

That's what level bricked people do.

[whole pawn]

I m pretty sure I am not playing the same game as u

hopefully I don't meet you in pvp

[swift dragon]

From the ones I have only, Alice, Helm, Sober Scarlett, Dorothy, Grave, Laplace, Cinderella, Red Hood and Crown are fully maxed

[whole pawn]

well probably not

[unique mountain]

Everyone's spa is their own personal hell , there's no rule like what you're saying that applies to everyone

[whole pawn]

nah blood is built different

[swift mango]

That's why I put 99%. It's more true the lower level you are.

[unique mountain]

I provide bricks to blood

[whole pawn]

🧱 by🧱

[unique mountain]

Suck my

[whole pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-dorothy-nikke-gif-5599408445189094436

[swift dragon]

Well, if it is only that... What are the other core units? Rumani? To have it 4/4/4 lvl 5 SR doll and barely OL gear?

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Anyway thanks for the chat

[swift dragon]

Emilia and Rumani are both for utility? I thought Emilia was for damage?

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

emilia can serve as nuke B3, battery or offburst DPS

[swift dragon]

So she would require more investment?

[tropic summit]

just give this a read

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R6qzhnPx85kEoYidYUs-K0hJy61APMQGj5nRSgdvRUU/edit?gid=0#gid=0

as for recommended build, check prydwen invidually per nikke you want to power up

e.g. emilia: https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/characters/emilia

[swift dragon]

Then... Let me take notes one more time..

Blanc, Emilia, Biscuit, Jackal, Rumani and Noah should be my main focus? Oh, and also Centi

[tropic summit]

"main" they just need to be usable

4/4/4 minimun, R15 or SR5 doll, 4OL lvl 0, the more lines the better but no need to throw rocks on them

emilia since she doables down as B3 you can raise skills more, as picture above

[swift dragon]

That's what I mean to say, that investment you named. while I should invest a lot more on Summer Anis

She seems to be a DPS even if she uses supporter gear

[tropic summit]

yeah she's a damage dealer even as she's classed as supporter

[outer grail]

@tropic summit hey from looking at the sheet so the position 1 has the best tier with 2RL that means if I put nikke that has high gen burst like jackle it's the most effective am I right?

[swift dragon]

I see...

[tropic summit]

^ these are in order of who contributes the most to burst gen

[cedar orbit]

Trace the rail

[outer grail]

wow thanks a lot I get it now, then is the position I put also fixed on the defense team even they swap from left to right?

[shell hazel]

still 1-5

[swift dragon]

Summer Anis, if she is the DPS is worth completely maxing?

Doll, skills, gear and that

[tropic summit]

Cater to the Iris

[shell hazel]

when you attack someone the enemy position 1 is on the right side, but it's still deployed/acting like you laid them out

[cedar orbit]

S.Anis is one of the best B3 char for pvp, also good for pve because of Cinderella

[shell hazel]

when s.Anis re-run?

[outer grail]

damn the pvp mechanic is very complicated but thanks for the guideline

[tropic summit]

she just did (last year), makes you wonder if they will ever again anytime soon 🤨

[cedar orbit]

Knowing how they didn't rerun 1st limited winter chars, probably Anis never gets a rerun

[tropic summit]

you welcome, once you get the hang of it it's fairly simple

[shell hazel]

at least no one in my bracket can have her for now lol

[cedar orbit]

Noah with Biscuit in a world with no S.Anis or Emilia is truly invincible, huh

[wicked horizon]

Damn, only one of my defense teams made the list.

Scarlet Jackal is like, known for being really fast. Why not a 2 RL team there?

[shell hazel]

true but I got Noah pretty late still in my build queue 🙂

OL SBS first I need to push campaign a bit more and lack of built SBS is stopping me progressing chapter 33

then I got Blanc/Noah to build up some

[cedar orbit]

Noah only really needs an SR doll

[tropic summit]

2RL scarlet is generally not lethal

[dire root]

I'm confused why my burst II didn't trigger.

burst I went off and then nothing.

everyone was still alive.

strange

[shell hazel]

Sees Tia

[tropic summit]

because you lack B1

[dire root]

Mainly because she is a defender

[tropic summit]

that's a B1 re-enter not a B1

[dire root]

Ah I see

[cedar orbit]

2RL Scarlet not lethal, 3RL Scarlet gets hit by 2 RL Cindy

[tropic summit]

yep

[shell hazel]

go into any campaign with just Tia you will see

she can't move you to b2

is why you still need another b1 with Tia

[wicked horizon]

Hmmmmm...
Isn't it?

[dire root]

That is the first time I have seen a nikke do that

[whole pawn]

we probably won't have a rerun for her
damn I wish I came back to the game 2 months before, I could have got sanis

[glad meteor]

If crit, then kill confirm with 1 buffer

[shell hazel]

it's not common I think

[wicked horizon]

I mean, maybe against some tankier teams...
Or maybe if everyone has SR15 dolls...?

But working fine for me so far with just 1 buffer, as long as I'm not at a deficit.

[dire root]

That is strange, I did a real time battle twice and won without it being close, but I do a quick time battle and lose.

[glad meteor]

Investment, synchro tier, atk / sup / defender, feed, crit, noah attack debuff, dolls, noise / moran, is scarlet indom, is enemy dps fast nuke enough to kill with low hp after surviving nuke

[wicked horizon]

Coincidence.
All the battles are computed before being displayed to you anyways.

[dire root]

Oh I see they have a stun that wins them the fight.

[wicked horizon]

Well, he did say "generally not enough", whereas for me right now, it's "generally enough". 🤷

[shell hazel]

cindy p1

[dire root]

I wish I had cindy.

[shell hazel]

running asuka there seems a bit random

[dire root]

Oh you can't click on the other teams nikkes to see the skills easily.

[dire root]

She has 2 pieces of overloaded gear, big combat power

[shell hazel]

but is MG no burst gen

and feeds enemy jackal links

[glad meteor]

It’s fine on offense id say, as long as you note what type of survivability they have

[shell hazel]

jackal links your two highest dps, you want to put the linked units so they get attacked to feed your burst gen quicker

[glad meteor]

I’ve still not had a taste of the 2RL scarlet

[shell hazel]

it's why Scarlet is common position 1 in Jackal comp

[dire root]

I thought that just shared damage, I must have missed the part about it feeding burst gen.

[glad meteor]

Need to see keripo damage calcs on whether 2RL rei.a can one tap defender with buffer

Technically she’s double buffer

Base

[shell hazel]

#pvp-arena message

it's due to you getting more burst gen hitting cindy in p1 sorry

due to decoy

[glad meteor]

Jackal damage share skills is pretty badly written to be honest

[shell hazel]

scarlet p1 is I think more for auto-counter with jackal link

either way cindy p1 gives you faster burst

[glad meteor]

I had no idea what feed was when starting pvp , I tried reading jackal skills to figure it out, and had nothing about burst gen

[tropic summit]

here it is

[shell hazel]

yeah I think I was wrong, it's you hitting her in p1 that boosts your gen

#pvp-arena message

[glad meteor]

As long as it it hits any jackal linked nikke

[dire root]

Hitting cindy gives more burst gen? I'm confused. I thought all hits gave the same burst gen it was mostly based on the weapon type used the amount of burst gen a nikke gave.

[shell hazel]

her decoy

it acts like you hitting 2 units almost

[dire root]

Cindy is horrible at PvP then no? You are handing the enemy a much faster burst gen.

[shell hazel]

you put Cindy not at p1

and ideally not at p2

[tropic summit]

cindy in p1 allows a team to earn 1.75x burst gen, in p2 1.25x burst gen

Example of what happens if you place your cindy in p1 in def

cindy ideally should be p4 or p5
p3 if you know they don't use emi against you
p2 if they don't have a fast team
p1 if you want to die

[glad meteor]

I put cindy p3 though, I need to

Burst chain

[tropic summit]

me 2 dw, screw emi

[shell hazel]

your matchup above btw

[dire root]

Man PvP is confusing sometimes

[glad meteor]

Using my sasuga rosanna cindy

[shell hazel]

you'll burst a bit quicker due to extra gen but 4 RL is quite slow

that is also Asuka with extra ammo OL apparently

[dire root]

Again Asuka is on there purely because she is built and has 2 pieces of overloaded gear, giving her far more combat power then any unit I can put in there.

[shell hazel]

she's too slow

pvp all about burst

if you not at deficit, you can win even with a bit less combat power

[dire root]

If the combat power deifict is enough burst doesn't matter and you just get gunned down in 2 seconds, that is what I was trying to stop.

[strange rain]

should i replace centi with anis for this rookie pvp team ?

[shell hazel]

if you have less about 85% of the opponent yes

[glad meteor]

Better off using cindy burst in that team

[shell hazel]

but if you're above 85% no penalty

[glad meteor]

Unless they have noah

[strange rain]

well its chill at the top but i still wanna improve the team if i can

[tropic summit]

you mean the opposite, anis with centi, ideally when centi is in synchro and higher CP

[glad meteor]

200 pts above 2nd, they shouldn’t be able to see you

[strange rain]

ye the opposite sorry its late XD

[strange rain]

ye should i put her at sync and replace them ? is it worth keeping anis in sync ?

[shell hazel]

try and see if you can make any of the standard attack comps work with your units
#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

yes you need anis if you don't have the following:

rumani, jackal, noah, xmaiden, laplace(treasure)

[keen vapor]

I use Anis regardless

[upper grove]

20% deficit but it's so much feed I should still win right?

cindy is sadly my only cp pad who does not steal jackal link, rest has too high atk from SR15 dolls to pad, Scarlet is still SR5

[tropic summit]

is that a rookie team?

[upper grove]

SP

[tropic summit]

then fight the other 2 teams no?

[upper grove]

I want to dodge the scar helm jackal team and the other one is an easy win yes

[tropic summit]

no noah?

[upper grove]

I could not be CP gapped by waiting 2 days for last Jackal OL and using Alice to pad instead of Helm, frees helm as well. enough feed so I don't think I need Helm for scar Jack

[tropic summit]

i dunno you're kinda gambling hard on that one

[outer grail]

rrh/redhood/biscuit/noir/rumani should I go with rrh burst 3 or redhood burst 3

[tropic summit]

what is that, an enemy team, a rookie team, your own team... a def team?

[keen vapor]

Just no

[wicked horizon]

Doesn't seem like the best team overall, but if you really had to, I'd RH burst 3. =y

[outer grail]

def team 3.5RL good cp

[keen vapor]

N
O

[upper grove]

on what exactly, changing helm to alice?

[tropic summit]

scarlet bait team, indeed listen to echo

[outer grail]

what should I change to make it better its def team

[wicked horizon]

Can you at least put a defender on P1 for Biscuit please?

[tropic summit]

post your box and the 3 enemy teams, makes it easier

[keen vapor]

Please do this↑

Not enemy teams tho

[wicked horizon]

Well, not the enemy teams.

[keen vapor]

🤝

[upper grove]

my main issue right now is lack of investments in some pvp units so I get CP gapped after returning to this bracket

[wicked horizon]

I wonder what the prime attacking hours are for Global...

[upper grove]

Cindy P2, scar jack food on their CP pad team

[tropic summit]

2-3hrs after reset, followed by china 5-6hrs after reset

[wicked horizon]

Prime as in, everyone will be asleep for a while and I get to keep my spot.

[tropic summit]

then around 12-16hrs later for 2nd attempt

[tropic summit]

that'd be after china, so in around 4-5 hours

[upper grove]

2mins before reset for last attack, just be a rat

[wicked horizon]

They'll just take it right back after reset.

[upper grove]

box

[wicked horizon]

I guess I can wake at like 4AM UTC. 🤔

[outer grail]

wait if it's a def team dont I put rumani on pos 5 so she will be swap from the right to left?

[shell hazel]

but they're down an attempt then if they do

[upper grove]

note: My scar burst is still low invest, 5/5/5 on her overall. It's unlikely she can kill a team without 2 buffers

[wicked horizon]

Position 1 is position 1 regardless of where you are.

[shell hazel]

she can taunt so you can lob Rumani at pos 5 and it will split enemy aggro some

[upper grove]

I'm on global and my reset time is 9PM, super chill to rat them. I usually hit like 10 AM and 8:30 PM if needed. but it's best to check your opponent's times if you want to be extra sure to rat them

[wicked horizon]

Okay, but so am I on the previous day...

[wicked horizon]

Nah, it's like 10 people brawling from the low challenger spots. Can't focus on anyone.

[upper grove]

whale to get C1-6

[tropic summit]

check CP

T1 will outlive scarlet
T2 will kill liter at the very least, they can no longer burst

[shell hazel]

still worth if you got a try left a few mins before reset

[wicked horizon]

Of course, if I have a try...
But that means I'd be sitting in a lower rank for a lot of the day, usually.

[upper grove]

Nice, I didn't think about using Naga

[shell hazel]

yeah only do that if you can't use the try better 🙂

[wicked horizon]

I'd gladly hit 6 times a day. Feels that's about how often I get knocked back down.

[tropic summit]

she's just flex there

helmT needs to be lvl 10 s1 and stage 2 and laplace treasured

[outer grail]

god damn It took me 4 months to know this so I will use this setup then crown/redhood/biscuit/noir/rumani do you think it's good now do I go rrh instend of redhood because of attacker with biscuit team?

[upper grove]

yeah both helm and laplace are max treasured

[tropic summit]

should be gud then

that way you can bypass the gamble on 20% deficit

[upper grove]

the 20% deficit will not be an issue after double burst weekend anyway

asuka W eating my precious fodder xp

[torn trout]

Dont stat penalties start at 15%?

[shell hazel]

15.4% yep

[wicked horizon]

Honestly, I don't know. They aren't traditional PvP attackers.
As someone suggested, post a picture of who you have.

[torn trout]

Ah I didnt know there was .4 thats good to know

[wicked horizon]

I thought it was 15.5% 😰

[torn trout]

I pretty much need to swing vs guys that have 30 levels on me so ill take anything I can get

[shell hazel]

I mean there isn't much difference between 15.4 and 15.5 and if that is mattering you're in trouble anyway 😄

but it's 15.4% anyhow

[wicked horizon]

Sometimes you do be in trouble though. =D

[upper grove]

majority of ppl who outlvl you should be just in that position due to cp gapping

their teams and positioning is often questionable at best

[wicked horizon]

No printscreen button, or no Discord on your computer?

Is this for Special Arena or Rookie?

[upper grove]

even with meta units it's always weird stuff like cindy P1/P2, cp gap teams full of MGs which fall to every scar jack once they don't gap you anymore

[torn trout]

Its been long enough to where everyones got a pretty good idea of what they are doing (sync 400+)

[outer grail]

sorry I dont have discord on laptop I just reinstalled the window thats why

I will go with rrh then because redhood will aim for that immune nikke if attacker has biscuit

[upper grove]

as defender you are always screwed once they tryhard attack can just attack them back, any defense will be broken during some point

[torn trout]

facts

[wicked horizon]

Sure. Scarlet's pretty good, if she's not too low CP.

[torn trout]

Refreshing is very much my most hated foe is what ive learned

[outer grail]

sadly she is still not overload and her skill is 5/5/5 but thanks for this I will invest into her to use her in this team

[wicked horizon]

I mean, now I'm curious who's in the other two defense teams, but I must be going anyways.
Someone else can cook for you.

[shell hazel]

7/4/7 for scarlet budget build, so focus on skill 1 + burst to 7 first

[keen vapor]

Full box, not just for last team.... WHY YOU DELETE IT THOUGH?! @outer grail

[shell hazel]

so in your case 7/5/7

[torn trout]

S2 only goes past 4/5 if you REALLY like pvp

Cost is too high otherwise

[upper grove]

replaced Naga filler with Blanc, should still be fine with that amount of CP

[tropic summit]

yeah that's fine, if she dies you get to use RH b2 as backup

[outer grail]

I will repost another picture with higher solution screenshot then send it to my mail

[upper grove]

I could also easily hit C1 but that guy is ratting even more than me. AND he's super vengeful, like once I hit him 3 months ago he used all his hits on me ONLY

[outer grail]

thanks, I will note your message as a guide

[keen vapor]

Full box from lobby

[upper grove]

worked beautifully. A bit too close for comfort as Scar was at like 5% when she bursted, blanc died super fast. as you said, Liter died so they just shot at me w/o burst

hero to the rescue

[tropic summit]

blanc probably doesn't have high lvl doll uh

[upper grove]

not even SR0

[tropic summit]

oh that's why, fix that asap...

[upper grove]

tbf she is still 3/4 OL, gloves missing

[tropic summit]

rip

[keen vapor]

Where

[tropic summit]

kokodayo

[upper grove]

TOO close

[tropic summit]

starting to think the 20% gamble was less risky

although that's on you for having dolless nikke

[upper grove]

yeah I had to invest for hardmode malding first

[tropic summit]

real ballsy

[tropic summit]

give her a doll, that poor white bunny

[upper grove]

she has base R0

[keen vapor]

3% left

[steep oak]

Does someone named Helen still post here?

[tropic summit]

just like keikaku? wdym

[keen vapor]

Yes

[tropic summit]

@umbral crown run

[steep oak]

They helped me out quite a while ago and I was hoping they could take a look at my lineup since so many new characters have come out.

[tropic summit]

post your box + your 3 teams let's take a look

[outer grail]

@keen vapor

def team 1 cindy/naga/xmaiden(quantum)/centi(quantum)/jackle(quantum)

team 2 crown/redhood/biscuit/noir/rumani

team 3 I will go full cp no burst wth this team

what do you think?

[shell hazel]

we had a convo here not long ago about why you don't put Cindy p1 lol

[upper grove]

in hindsight, if Naga/Blanc are just filler anyway, I could use Naga as she has SR5 doll, as long as scar is healthy the RH B1 buff is enough for Liter oneshot

[tropic summit]

aye that was the reasoning behind naga just being higher investiment than blanc, but didn't expect her to be only on R0

[upper grove]

you can only afford to put Cindy P1 on attack and if your opponent's team has 0 RL so the splash dmg doesn't matter

[tropic summit]

keep it in mind for next time on similar scenarios i guess

[shell hazel]

aye but that's in their def team

[upper grove]

Naga almost 20k cp higher than blanc

[shell hazel]

[upper grove]

I know, just wanted to tell them when Cindy P1 is okay which is almost never

my naga is 67k while blanc is 49k

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-backup-oh-no-ali-gif-22974604

[upper grove]

ded bunnies

[tropic summit]

let's just assume I didn't see that

[shell hazel]

see what?

[outer grail]

do you mean cindy at p1 is a bad idea on def team?

[tropic summit]

oh yes indeed, it's gone, must've been the wind

[upper grove]

yes, I gave you the 1 example when cindy P1 is okay

[tropic summit]

is this another @whole pawn that doesn't listen when people explain them things?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/geralt-of-rivia-gif-13194439

wind's howlin'

[tropic summit]

pain...

[upper grove]

but tbh it's fun trying to cook vs def teams, it's been 3 months

as long as I can keep C1-3 that is

[shell hazel]

working on SBS I need her for volleyballs I'm losing a whole chapter of progress because of it

[upper grove]

and I don't even have the majority of pvp units invested, will be even more fun

[steep oak]

Alright, incoming

[upper grove]

sbs will feel like cheating the chapters

[shell hazel]

atm I feel like the chapters are cheating me

[outer grail]

@shell hazel @upper grove I guess because of her decoy? then I will go naga/cindy/xmaiden/centi/jackle I trust the experience player here

[tropic summit]

about time you built SBS already

[shell hazel]

cindy ideally not p2 either

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind xmaiden jackle

[shell hazel]

we need Doro up!

[tropic summit]

1.75x enemy burst gen on p1, 1.25x enemy burst gen on p2

[tropic summit]

god bless that AoE

only 4 at a time

[steep oak]

It says too many attachments

[outer grail]

def team 2 I will go with crown/redhood/biscuit/noir/rumani what do you think or change redhood to rrh?

[shell hazel]

yeah.. I just need solo raid and I'll go straight to SR-5 doll on her. I do have Blanc/Noah in my to build list a bit 🙂

[upper grove]

34-32 though is the worst volley ball chapter by far, you might have to mald even there with SBS (or just slightly). it's one of those stages with scattered mobs in the air, finding debris for burst regen and waiting sbs cd because first and last waves have volley balls

[shell hazel]

tbh I'll get stuck at behemoth for some levels anyway I can probably chill there and get some cp

[upper grove]

cindy should go P3 or P4 if you defend with her

[shell hazel]

4 attachment limit

[steep oak]

Helm and Laplace are full treasure.

Rookie team

[upper grove]

below 261 is kinda hard on behe, I barely cleared with 263 and that was 97% ele cindy

[steep oak]

Special team

[shell hazel]

yeah 245 atm, got a bit of time but I'll get SBS as ready as I can asap as missing quite a few outpost level potentials

[tropic summit]

well this one will be pretty straight forward, you got most of everything

[tropic summit]

these are definitly His kind of teams

[steep oak]

Yeah, sorry for all the spam, guys.

That rookie team has served me well. Just making sure there isn't something betyter since I maxed out Helm.

[outer grail]

I see thank you def team 3 I have rrh,liter,blanc,alice,anchor maid could you give me the position those 5 are highest cp on this team but no burst

[upper grove]

34-21B-2 is a base defend stage which I finished last, also annoying one. that one you can at least skip

[shell hazel]

I wouldn't set rookie def to same def you use in sp-arena unless you have no crossover of players. It will let people test your sp-arena defence of one team freely

[tropic summit]

do you've quantum on lvl 7?

[steep oak]

5, but I can work on that next.

[steep oak]

Great advice, never thought of that.

[upper grove]

hmm if you have to use those units I'd say: Blanc Liter RRH Alice Anchor. You want blanc to burst instead of anchor and Liter can also be P3 instead of P2. at P2 she might get blancs indom which is not ideal, so you can swap RRH with Liter. Main issue is the team's burst gen

so Blanc RRH Liter Alice Anchor

[shell hazel]

also rookie doesn't really matter, you can just set kind of stupid def, or in my case I use my campaign team, it will ofc lose to anyone capable

but at least I would try out a different def team anyway

my rookie def is just my campaign team 😄

[steep oak]

Yeah, my bracket most people are way higher than me.

I can compete with close to 600k, but anything over that is rough.

[outer grail]

yes I lack any high burst nikke with a proper cp Im going to invest in a shotgun team in the future maybe building rosanna nuke and helm fav also waiting to get SSAnis

[shell hazel]

I'd skip shotgun team for now unless you love the idea of it

[vapid lake]

no mats to build rei TN

[upper grove]

I'll just invest asuka to 7/4/4 or something and Rei will not even get OL, minimum invest like 4/1/4 or 4/4/4

[tropic summit]

i'd go with these, although Helen's teams were gud already

[upper grove]

too many good units since new year, not even a break after maid duo

[sleek ginkgo]

Need help beating him, I have all except Laplace treasure and Rapunzel

[steep oak]

Any advice on rookie team?

[outer grail]

@upper grove so according to the help of your line up my bastion/resilence cube is currently at maximum slot I will go with blanc(vigor) rrh(bastion) liter(tempering) alice (endurance) anchor maid (tempering) this is the final team do you approve it?

[vapid lake]

i think me gonna save for april pilgrim sounds like a better plan ]

[tropic summit]

yes, alternate between these 2

[upper grove]

just go with highest cubes for CP pad, endurance is a bad cube and tempering is only useful for tanking nikke like Noah or Moran

in arena specifically bastion is usually better than resilience because you shoot more until you reload, but using highest cube to cp pad is fine. Vigor on Blanc is good

my scarlet for example has 31 ammo, with bastion that's 40 shots aka 4 stacks until she has to reload. only 1 ammo line

[outer grail]

all of them are level 3 except for bastion/resilence/quantum I will wait for the next 3 days for the union chips reward so I will be able to open up 1 more slot for both bastion and resilence

[steep oak]

No Emilia in the Rookie or Special team? Interesting. I will absolutely try these teams out. I appreciate the spreadsheet as well as your time. THANK YOU!

[upper grove]

yeah go for break points on cubes first, 3 is the first breakpoint afaik then 7

[outer grail]

well thats final. thank you from the bottom of my heart. Im deeply grateful for your guidance in helping me build a proper arena team, Ive also learned so much about the PvP mechanics with your help I have a solid 3RL and 3.5 RL team along with a unbuild throwaway high cp team lol anyways truly appreciate all your support

[eager mountain]

My top10 are all whales at some point since I was.
It’s just hateful mfs that care nothing but tunnel vision, whether they always gems or locking u down

[upper grove]

it's kinda funny how an idle game makes ppl tryhard, rat, and mald so much

[eager mountain]

they dont even care about blueing campaign for cd but expert in annoyance in pvp

[upper grove]

my current bracket has 3 ppl higher than me: 6 lvls, 15 and 35. before reshuffle, I was 20 higher than the rest

and even then they don't mald as much in campaign but they gem in sp arena

[eager mountain]

mfs

[upper grove]

at least I know they are not whaling for xp fodder, they still have a bunch of pve cp pad units

but the 15 and 35 more lvl guys definitely go for dust, can't explain the gap otherwise. bracket started at start of 1st EVA collab, end of Aug

[eager mountain]

im level gapping them more and more since they abandon their campaign

that and cs lines + more cp pad lines are all i need

just that i dont want those mf in CA

[vapid lake]

I'm actually 90% sure that the reshuffle only shuffles whales around, like they actualyl check the spending on ur account

Past 3 reshuffles nothing changed in my bracket except adding 1 or 2 whale in or removing them

So next 3 months im -300 gems

[upper grove]

6 months for sync 286 and I spend mostly on skins and some tickets. the guy 5 lvls higher than me is 3 chapters main campaign behind and 6 chapters hardmode. 15 lvl guy is 2 chapters HM behind, 30 lvl guy is the only one who is 1 chapter in HM ahead (sitting at MW wall )

[wise horizon]

Looks ok here? @tropic summit

[eager mountain]

so a way for them to tell ppl to never stop whaling or else

[pale knoll]

Make it 1.8k

[upper grove]

sound business strategy

[vapid lake]

They're also trying to bait dolphins into spending more to try and beat whales

I won't be baited

I stay a low spender

[upper grove]

I'm like a step between whale and dolphin

[eager mountain]

how much u spending per month

[pale knoll]

No noah?

[eager mountain]

whaling sux in this game unless u have an early acc

[wise horizon]

Don’t have her unfortunately

[upper grove]

usually the 5€ monthly and the cheapest ticket package 20€ something. maybe add in the monthly pass or a skin if I like them. Gacha skins if I like them

[eager mountain]

thats dolphin and not between dolphin/whales imo

[upper grove]

sometimes I spend for the other ticket packages as well, which goes in whale territory

but it's very rare

[pale knoll]

Should be fine, that third team is pretty bad too

Cp padding ftw

[upper grove]

shift up with the skill book sale is so much bait

[eager mountain]

[upper grove]

100 bucks package is 600 burst mats which is 28.5 days w/o event shops or overclock drops

why not make them drop somewhere else as well

[wise horizon]

Didn’t work out for T2

[pale knoll]

I was just referring to t3. Your t2 is too slow and I would have gone for 3rl blanc emi

[raven plover]

lifesteal bay

[verbal oasis]

Just got Helm's treasure, can u guys suggest me 3 teams in the sp arena, i don't have Anne btw. Thx a lot

[upper grove]

show box, I assume defending?

[verbal oasis]

Attacking

[wise horizon]

Ahh I totally misread you

[verbal oasis]

Currently im using these 3:

1. Noise-Rap- Cinder-Noah-Biscuit
   2.Blanc-SBS-RH-Helm-Rumani
   3.Liter-Centi-Scar-Anis-Jackal
   Do i need to change the positions or the nikkes

[deft pelican]

Can someone make me SP def teams

[wise horizon]

So 3RL Blanc Emilia like this is fine for T2?

[pale knoll]

Should be fine

[quick lake]

@deft pelican @verbal oasis can use these teams as a reference. Let us know if u need any help

[unkempt kestrel]

Anyone got tips against this team?

update team1: win team2 and 3: lost rip

[glad meteor]

Cindy nerf

[unkempt kestrel]

after the nerf noah 3rl can block 2rl cindy right?

cuz of the ulti delay?

[glad meteor]

Partially

Could hit dps with a crit and get a lucky win, but inconsistent when units are tanky

[unkempt kestrel]

o i swap t2 and t3

and i won all 3 lmao

[glad meteor]

[unkempt kestrel]

but 2RL cindy vs 2RL cindy is RNG i think

[gaunt viper]

SP def squad composition suggestion please? (Helm is treasured btw) Thank you

[lunar pawn]

this is a slow process

[quick lake]

Quantum on Centi and xMaiden a must

[quick lake]

Wipe out daily for more mats

[lunar pawn]

no u

[fathom rock]

Your 401 is less cp than my 361 eric
Gotta hate reshuffle

[quick lake]

I do

[lunar pawn]

then do it again

[quick lake]

Damn. I am very sold by this Cindy team

Opens alot up more team options

[gaunt viper]

everyone but XMaiden is OL lol, guess I'll have to OL her too at some point. Thank you for the assistance. I'm Surprised to see Liter and Noir, I was used to running Rapunzel and Sanis

[gaunt viper]

I plan on getting the new Rei btw, would that add anything to it or nah?

[quick lake]

She is good. But u need to x/x/10 her 4OL and all to make her viable

Scarlet sidegrade if u wanna cook

[grizzled bone]

what's everyone drinking tonight

[quick lake]

But generally, Scarlet should be enough

[grizzled bone]

i've had too many drinks

[quick lake]

we can tell

[eager mountain]

chocolate milk

[gaunt viper]

Sidegrade?

[quick lake]

Yeah. Scarlet and ReiT are roughly similar. Fulfil the same purpose/role

[gaunt viper]

huh gotcha, well I might take the route of investing in her simply because I've heard she's comparable with AskuaW for Kraken compared to SBS + Alice

[eager mountain]

her burst upgrade wont do much for that purpose
so while u can use her both pve and pvp, they demand diff skill books

[quick lake]

Rei recommended is minimum 7/4/4 iirc. So quite budget

x/x/10 for pvp would be ur choice

[crystal flicker]

Rei for PvP?

[quick lake]

yeah, she’s not bad

[gaunt viper]

huh I suppose that makes sense then, quite drastic for pvp to be to 10 in comparison to recommended

[eager mountain]

1 buffer insta nuke in general, thats the best thing about her

[quick lake]

Asuka/reiT dmg proportion is 63/37. pve rei investment lower priority relatively

[eager mountain]

ar feed isnt that bad imo, but if u put her in def they can just atk cheese with sakura

[vapid lake]

But where mi skill books to build her

[rich quail]

Next two weekends are 2x mats weekends

That’s your start

[gaunt viper]

gotcha better safe than sorry

[quick lake]

Next banner will be pvp meta trust. Need save too

[gaunt viper]

really? I dunno what next banner is rn

[eager mountain]

su leaked it in blabla

[gaunt viper]

hmmmm well so long as it's only 1 unit it shouldn't be bad, unless it breaks the meta

[eager mountain]

if CA actually coming in march, somehow

then, she might be pretty decent

[rich quail]

If u wanna guess

Check what’s the featured story

[upper grove]

I can't check the calculator right now, is it also 2RL with quant lvl 4 (or less than 7?)

[gaunt viper]

several people lol

[quick lake]

they did? i thought it was data mine stuff

[crystal flicker]

what part of Rei 2 similar to Scarlet?

[quick lake]

Needs q7 i think. Otherwise give all the units q4

[crystal flicker]

I mean I don't see feed in her skill, maybe only simple Nuke

[quick lake]

Her nuke is higher dmg than scar. Can use 1 buffer

[crystal flicker]

No feed though

[eager mountain]

lol su's intern web project leaks, as if i'd be surprised
tho, good baiting for ppl to use blabla ig

[quick lake]

ReiT was a surprise decent pvp unit. The next banner was the PLANNED pvp CA debut unit

[eager mountain]

its a rl, ill just say it

so its pretty much pvp

[quick lake]

Im betting next banner is OP af for pvp

[crystal flicker]

Harran treasure for PvP

[eager mountain]

who is harran again

and who is isabel

[gaunt viper]

I didn't see it in blabla unless I'm blind

[quick lake]

next banner unit seems to fulfil a perfect pvp niche we have been missing

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/harran-harran-nikke-nikke-gov-nikke-stun-gif-17891358777468774908

[gaunt viper]

im q7 so I'm good there

[quick lake]

Good ol’ Harran days

[crystal flicker]

stall unit

Like there's 5 minutes PvP timer, but most fight always ended in 1 minute

[gaunt viper]

that's for the best, we don't have all day

[valid fern]

how about a buffer who can actually gen

[upper grove]

only a few months until I can get quantum to 7 after res and bastion are up to 10

[eager mountain]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NikkeMobile/comments/1iu9f8s/nikkes_new_official_community_lets_your_watch/

[crystal flicker]

another npc jail

[eager mountain]

well technially u can buff emi with helm
pretty sure emi eats all FB buffs

[quick lake]

ding ding ding we have a winner

[eager mountain]

just that its likely a really bad def comp

[gaunt viper]

oh you mean Trina right? I saw her artwork somewhere but I didn't know more than that (artwork is )

[eager mountain]

ye

[quick lake]

Trina so cute too

[eager mountain]

not a fan of oversized boba/butt, thats exactly why i play this game to have less banner temptation

[gaunt viper]

yeah she's got a thong which is also nice

[gaunt viper]

yeah tho it's not too bad in game compared to irl

[eager mountain]

sadly this game barely has any medium sized boba

[gaunt viper]

so would you say it's worth it to OL XMaiden then or wait for Trina or something? just trying to weight options with resources

[eager mountain]

xs/s/l/xl/xxl/xxxl/xxxxl are everywhere

[quick lake]

xMaiden still core chara. Worth to OL for pvp, as well as for Behemoth and electric SR

[quick lake]

Who is M, Eunhwa?

[gaunt viper]

I dunno, Alice or Blanc for example don't seem bad

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet

[eager mountain]

alice is l, thats way bigger then average sized boba

blanc is the perfect m

[grizzled bone]

choccy milk

[crystal flicker]

Most old Nikke doesn't have oversized booba

maybe oversized ASS

[eager mountain]

shes xs/s

[gaunt viper]

I dunno about way bigger but I suppose side by side with that in mind it is slightly larger

[gaunt viper]

alright sounds good then, ty for the advice

[eager mountain]

imagine blood is here

[upper grove]

scarlet best girl

[upper grove]

I almost wanted to link mooeys high deficit behemoth HM kill with xmaiden

just checked calculator, quantum 3 on centi + xmaiden on Noise Centi Cindy HelmT Xmaiden is already 2RL

[quick lake]

All these hyper invested elec units

[upper grove]

was even 31% deficit or smth

[eager mountain]

31%?

[quick lake]

Blue CP gaming and

[eager mountain]

u can i-frame elec aoe?

xmaiden issue is lack of any heal but she make up that part by having highest elec team dmg to avoid last few seconds of dmg

[upper grove]

https://youtu.be/4pgkbpNC2DA

[eager mountain]

however high enough deficit her normals will do 111111 dmg lmfao

[upper grove]

no healer

[quick lake]

I’ll prob be at 541 to break Behemoth

[upper grove]

1.65m recommended cp jesus

[gaunt viper]

btw one last thing while I've got you, would you have a good def comp for rookie? this is what I've been using but still taking losses

[upper grove]

would not recommend using a team which you also use for SP if there are same ppl in both brackets

free testing

[quick lake]

No perfect rookie comp

[gaunt viper]

well luckily it's not the same to any of my teams

[upper grove]

my bracket for example loves to use Noah biscuit and they cannot do anything else

[crystal flicker]

probably lose to Noah comp

[gaunt viper]

surprisingly my bracket save for the person whose beating my Def is all the same method as my current Def

[gaunt viper]

yeah, i didn't know if there was a better Def squad that takes advantage of THelm now that I've got her that helps out in that regard

[keen vapor]

Ok guys
I'm finally home, I have 24% battery now

[eager mountain]

scar comp sux in rookie in general imo

[gaunt viper]

I know

[keen vapor]

we all know

[gaunt viper]

that's why I was hoping for better

[eager mountain]

guranteed noah so u go sanis or emi or even cindy at least cindy tanks

[crystal flicker]

Try stall comp or just replace Blanc with Noah

[unkempt kestrel]

Blanc SBS/SAnis Biscuit ClipSG Rumani (3RL)

for the 4th slot does it have to be ClipSG or can it be another RL?

[crystal flicker]

Less nuke though

[eager mountain]

emi also easy to counter so i personally go with 2rl noah noise sanis for rookie defense

[gaunt viper]

hmmm well I'm running stall comp as my atk so I don't wanna give that away

[eager mountain]

not like sanis feed gonna make their scarjackel 1rl

[crystal flicker]

SAnis feed is su!cide though if Scarlet invested

[quick lake]

Can run in through the calc. Needs ClipSG or better to hit 3RL

[gaunt viper]

Whom might the other 2 be?

[eager mountain]

thats why i run with jackel helmt as battery

no biscuit not the biggest issue there, its 2rl with p5 taunt, they have to try hard to actually get p1 sniped

[crystal flicker]

Isn't that the art of team building? to keep making a new team after they figured your defense

[quick lake]

My 2RL Cindy getting blocked by 3RL Noah @eager mountain

Cindy is bricked say real

[eager mountain]

i rotate her out of sp defense cuz of that
shes still good but if they know it... then its pretty cheap to beat a cindy team

[keen vapor]

Doll won't help?

[quick lake]

If u look closely, only 4 out of 10 shots did dmg

~~Time to replace Cindy with ReiT ~~

[eager mountain]

id only run cindy def if all batteries have really good cs lines, imo

[unkempt kestrel]

hows drake treasure in PVP?

[eager mountain]

no real need for sp

[keen vapor]

Is ..... Unrelated

[crystal flicker]

dunno, I just avoid pairing Scar with SAnis

[quick lake]

All my RL units have at least 10% cs there

So maybe 1.9RL

Still blocked

[crystal flicker]

You can't pair DrakeT with SAnis team

[eager mountain]

10 isnt good and they should have more, if equal cs cindy hits 5 shots, accoding to eon

higher cs at least make cindy def a slight more dangerous gamble, not saying its a meta def tho

[quick lake]

Cindy 🚮

[eager mountain]

another reason to have crit rate over ammo on cindy, again pve perfect ammo on cindy was pretty much a bs

[unkempt kestrel]

yeah im trying to find someone to pair with SANIS, noir cant as well

[eager mountain]

hitting that crit still allows her to rng one shot the attacker

[quick lake]

SBS better imo

[crystal flicker]

RL probably

[unkempt kestrel]

yeh prob xmaiden

[eager mountain]

To actually make use of maiden s2 buff somehow

Use to run them before thelm

[vapid lake]

i should stop using cindy as def?

[eager mountain]

well, rotate her in and out instead of always having her ig

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/broke-wallet-i-am-broke-no-money-no-cash-gif-24120042

[umbral belfry]

@tropic summit bruh

[swift mango]

You know who is next banner units already?

Where do I see their skill?

[blissful willow]

You're gonna get killed so it's best to delete your message

[quick lake]

Ban hammer

[supple blaze]

Guys, what's the 3 best team set-ups in SP arena?

[quick lake]

#pvp-arena message
Can refer here

[eager mountain]

hes still alive tho

[rich quail]

Aw mang

I missed the fireworks

[vapid lake]

Kit leaked alr?

[swift mango]

Let's say you explored the limit.

[vapid lake]

Dm me leeks

[swift mango]

There is no kits. No need to wonder.

[vapid lake]

[cedar orbit]

It doesn't matter how many pulls you havr, all that matters is your number of gold tickets

[vapid lake]

Then how rheax know it provides the perfect niche unless he lying

[swift mango]

I think this isn't exactly 1rl slower. Maybe 0.7-0.8 or sth.

[swift mango]

You don't need no tickets if you have 1 million pulls.

[coarse lake]

even if she doesn't fill pvp niche.... I'm sure she'll fill, visual niches

[sleek ginkgo]

Need help against this guy, have all except Laplace t and rapunzel

[whole pawn]

you re wrong, I do listen

[unique mountain]

[formal cradle]

these are all my nikkes info, could anyone please tell me whats the optimal sp def setup for my account? https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNDYwNDMzODYyODI0MjE0ODk5Ng%3D%3D

[swift mango]

You have Rossanna invested?

[sleek ginkgo]

I also don't have Rosanna

[sleek ginkgo]

I should win if
indom scarjack against his Cindy team and
4RL Cinderella against Emilia ?

[swift mango]

Could be. Bay Cover is hard to gauge here because Idk your and their CS.

Maybe try

Scarlet+Blanc+RH+Emi+Jackal (to try and screw bay cover)

Or sth like

Emi(21%)+Blanc+RH+rapu/other low Regen flex+Jackal

[sleek ginkgo]

Will try, thx

[swift mango]

In Emi case, make sure she is linked and lower HP than her other link...

[swift mango]

4rl Cindy team need Noah+Biscuit ofc...

[swift mango]

Your current plan is still kinda risky...

Could do Noah+biscuit+SBS+(Noise or flex) (2-3rl) to attack Cindy team.

And Emi+Blanc+RH+flex+Jackal (3rl) to attack the Emi team.

For sure win...

[sleek ginkgo]

Yeah,I almost lose with last team, if my scar run out of indom against Cindy it was over
Will do this variation next time

[magic marsh]

@sour briar @oblique ridge help me will ya

[oblique ridge]

I usually avoid pvp cooking

[pale knoll]

[cedar orbit]

We told you to get Crown

[swift mango]

If it works it works I guess. No need to change.

[swift mango]

Bruh... Not like he could find a way to guarantee crown now.

[whole pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-of-course-drake-lil-yachty-laptop-confused-understand-gif-13325798991723423204

[shell hazel]

you just need from 1 to infinity pulls to get a Crown 100% 😄

[whole pawn]

bro is certified gambler

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-dealing-with-an-expert-professional-understand-rambo-nostalgia-gif-14962651

[hollow anchor]

I want to win against this guy, tell me 5 characters that WILL (hopefully) do the job, please. 😬

[quick lake]

Scar Blanc RH THelm Jackal*

quantum on jackal

[shell hazel]

• make sure Helm doesn't steal link 😄

[wanton island]

whats the best team comp for amateur arena right now?

[quick lake]

Rookie doesnt matter too much, but
Scar Blanc RH HelmT Jackal probs

[wanton island]

no biscuit or noah?

[shell hazel]

I don't set a good def, I prefer to lose on purpose sometimes

I mentioned it yesterday but ideally don't set a def you use in sp-arena as it let's people test your defence

rookie arena doesn't matter much, I tend to float anywhere from 1 - 10

[wanton island]

yeah. im getting that right now

[shell hazel]

I set my def to my campaign team, it's enough to not be attacked a lot whilst it loses most of the time :d

[quick lake]

Maybe:
Noise Scar Noah xMaiden Jackal

[wanton island]

you think its better than this lineup?

...

(im still working on building cindy up like you suggested for the other arena)

i generally get top 5 in the regular arena

[quick lake]

Can use the 2nd line I suggested

[wanton island]

wow... that was delayed

[wanton island]

thanks again for your advice. youve always kept my teams in top 5

[hollow anchor]

Don’t have THenlm

And who’s scar again 😅

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet

[quick lake]

2.5 RL Scarjack or faster
4RL Emilia or slower
4.5RL or slower Cindy

[hollow anchor]

They replace THelm yeah?

[placid mulch]

Whaaaaaatttt

[wanton island]

???

[placid mulch]

Why is it its just two of you

[wanton island]

im 3rd

only 2 to attack

[placid mulch]

Oh mb

What server are u m8

[rich ledge]

i need some help to optimise my teams, i dont have noah. Scarlet is not trained too. How should I go about investing and upgrading my team? Solo raid chars are also eating my resources

[shell hazel]

don't put Cindy in p1 in defence

[wicked horizon]

🤔
Centi, Laplace, Exia, Blanc, Biscuit, Vesti, Neon, Maxwell, Julia, Sin, Sugar, Novel, Sakura, Scarlet?

[rich ledge]

how can i change it up? Im using helm to tank since cindy will skip p1, if i put cindy at the back she wont get to burst

[swift mango]

Should your whole box in order of power. DO NOT split them to burst phase.

[shell hazel]

post your box like blood suggested though I am not a true chef I assume he may have some better ideas for you 😄

cindy in p1 is the worst though, p2 isn't quite as bad, p3 - p4 - p5 is better but you have to balance that with bursting ofc

[swift mango]

I won't say Centi being moderate, she just wears an outfit that compressed those mountains. Same to sugar.

[unique mountain]

Split them into burst phase , dew it

[shell hazel]

I have cindy in p2 myself for now due to team changes and things, but mainly avoid p1

you have RH in that team so she can do all bursts, so you can afford to lose a b2 or whatever ahead of bursting

[wicked horizon]

More like the outfit accentuates them imo. At least for Centi.

[swift mango]

Sugar you could see her pretty big when she wear party dress. Sakura also pretty big if you looked at her swimsuit version.

[wet torrent]

Looking for help with new teams for 3v3 Def

[shell hazel]

4 attachment max - you can go into landscape mode to capture more at once

[wicked horizon]

Okay, Sugar, maybe.
Sakura's summer version 100% got buffed, like god damn.

[quick lake]

I hope we have a Leona Alt

[swift mango]

It's called binded chest. Many Asian did this in ancient time... You could see it lots in Japanese manga...

Sakura normally wearing traditional Kimono... Easily to do this.

Maybe old English dress as well... Just search "Azur Lane's Hood"

[crystal flicker]

or Tove treasure, I really want to use her skin ngl

[wicked horizon]

That's why I posted the one where the booba are a little bit more free.

[swift mango]

I mean, rather than a buff, her chest was that big all along.

[wicked horizon]

I dun believe it

[swift mango]

This is the legendary Hood transformation I mentioned before.

[crystal flicker]

While I'm an HMS fan, I don't see what's interesting from Hood

apart from shes facing Biscuit

[swift mango]

Well, she was as flat as a board at the start before we know.
That she hid all that volumes under her chest bind.

[rich ledge]

ok i manged to squeeze then all in 4 haha

[swift mango]

The only girl that recite poem in super quiet voice when you touch her.

[rich ledge]

Roughly what the cp levels of competitors are

[tropic summit]

you sure about that? i seem to remember someone saying scarlet wouldn't work agaisnt 4 feeders

i'll just pretend that never happened and believe you (you had the CP argument if anything)

[tropic summit]

no noah, no emilia, no rapunzel, no xanne... do you've helm treasured or laplace treasured?

[quick lake]

Have u been buying event attempts to clear 1-11 hard?

[rich ledge]

yup my helm is treasured next week will be able to get phase 3 currently phase 2. Yup i have been buying event attempts. Started in sakura banner so the other players also dont have xanne emilia, im f2p

[swift mango]

Okay my bad. I forgot the whole point about being a Nikke with powerful background. She could just change into another spare body with bigger boobas.

Azur Lane girls doesn't have that kinda thing available.

[whole pawn]

mb then, I meant that it won't work because of my cp problem, not because the team composition itself

[swift mango]

Common Scarlet won't work against 4 built Shotgun though.

[tropic summit]

here you go, reviewed teams

as in the table to the right, once noah is found and built you can turn T1 (cp pad team) into proper meta stall team

[tropic summit]

yep that's fine

[tropic summit]

if a scarlet on non cp deficit can't survive 2RL due to feed burst with indom, the problem is scarlet not having SR15 or jackal not having SR15 doll

my scarlet was surviving 18% cp deficit against 2 SGs + RH pressure on 2.5RL, unless you telling me that's 4SGs with 40% atk OLs, then i'll believe you

[rich ledge]

so summer anis not being used then? she was one of the teams that managed to win

[swift mango]

Sr15 also doesn't do that much. 2rl Scarlet also burst at 3rl. That's 2 SG shot after enemies b1. Which could be Rh.

[tropic summit]

nah this should survive 4 SGs unless they're stack on atk% OL

[tropic summit]

the problem with s.anis is that she's weak to scarlet, on 3RL that's sadly not gonna be enough unless you've a B3 backup or revive

better use non feeding SBS, which can serve sort of the same purpose, although weak to biscuit and p1 taunter defender

the whole purpose of that team is to force enemy to use either scarlet or biscuit

[swift mango]

2sg isn't 4 and we don't know how much they are built there.

[tropic summit]

yes, it's safe to assume 4 SGs on stacked atk% OL will kill linked 2RL scarlet if anything tho

on that much i'd agree

[rich ledge]

hmm do i have to invest into noise for the future 3rd team?

[swift mango]

Rather than stacked atk% they only need properly doll up.

[cedar orbit]

I'm fighting 1 dude between 2nd and 3rd, 4-6 are fighting among themselves. What's the point, we are all in the same reward bracket

[swift mango]

And maybe Ele on Noir.

[tropic summit]

cindy can be buffed by any of these:

-liter
-rh
-noise
-xmica

although keep in mind ideally you want to still hit 2RL threshold with burst gen

[tropic summit]

e-peen obviously, gotta be "on top"

[swift mango]

But they could also suicide to your Scarlet counter before they even hitting you 4 times, left alone 6.

[cedar orbit]

He should hit the dude who is 40 lvls above him, instead of me

[tropic summit]

in an ideal world, but ppl are silly

[rich ledge]

so ideally is to build noise to replace naga?

[cedar orbit]

I wanna have a go at the guy who is 60 lvls above me, but since 3rd keeps attacking, I can't

[tropic summit]

yes that team should ideally turn into noise centi cind helm rumani, 2RL buffed cindy nuke

or any of the variations rheax shared above

#pvp-arena message

[cedar orbit]

He can fit ina clip sg tier unit in there instead of Rumani

[rich ledge]

how should I use the 2 built teams? like what should I target? normally the opponents have a scarjack, noah biscuit and a cindy team? which 2 teams should i attack with which 2?

[tropic summit]

attack teams are based on the opponent you facing and burst speed

learn to use the calculator and assemble teams as needed

prefer scar-jack against feed lineups
prefer noah teams against nuke based teams
prefer stall against specific enemies

[raven plover]

or just ping railtracer and ask for teams

[tropic summit]

a very specific stall team to deal with 3RL emi by catching her nuke, for example

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-running-anime-running-running-love-live-gif-22710773

[ember mulch]

what is the biscuit pvp team ?

[vapid lake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvatFnyhQJ4

[unique mountain]

Itaimeni awasete ageru

[shell hazel]

I need to learn what is good against noah/nuke teams 🙂

[cedar orbit]

Main issues with using Emilia and SBS as your b3, you allow your opponents to burst extremely slowly

[shell hazel]

if opponent runs noah/cindy nuke do I run my own noah team, or something else?

[cedar orbit]

If your Scarlet is jacked, you can run a 2RL Scarlet Blanc

Don't think Noah catching Cindy nuke results in a win, Cindy's dps is still very good

[shell hazel]

she's OK not jacked, I got her on basic OL + SR-5 + 7/4/7 skills but I've had to shift over to ninja scarlet for a bit

happy to learn some more and rookie is a good place to do it, if opponent runs this, does a 2RL scarlet / blanc win more than likely?

[cedar orbit]

In my SA 2RL Cindy Noah into 2 RL Scarlet Blanc, I usually lost it

But I'm sure his Scarlet is jacked with 50+% attack rolls on Scarlet and lvl 10 counter

[shell hazel]

not sure which is better to try

I can't run helm in my scarlet team yet as she steals the link

[covert lintel]

how 2RL rei team will be?

[tropic summit]

DPS noah teams, you just gotta aborb the damage then deal continuos dmg afterward, as their main source of dmg is gone

[shell hazel]

which of the two comps above would you say is better? I posted the designs 🙂

[tropic summit]

replace s.anis with SBS or RH or RRH

(RRH needs at least 1 buff to ensure good dps)

[shell hazel]

have to replace laplace there as well not got 😄

[cedar orbit]

RHH into Scarlet Blanc

[shell hazel]

well not treasured anyway

[tropic summit]

that just needs to be any clip burst gen

jackal is also optional

[rich ledge]

can my cindy win this?

[cedar orbit]

I ran SBS Noah into 20 lvls up Cindy Noah, my team instantly folded after the 3 sec invincibility was up

[tropic summit]

for straight way into suicide sure

[shell hazel]

think this works?

so jackal links to RH + Helm, and RH is the main nuke

[tropic summit]

put jackal in p5 and centi in p2

[shell hazel]

ah your vid had em other way around 🙂

[tropic summit]

get RH to burst with B1 aswell

[tropic summit]

it's just an example

you need to adapt to what you facing

RH B3 can be B1-less, again depends what you facing tho

[shell hazel]

for RH B1 she needs to be more left on Jackal, hold on

[tropic summit]

also throw a biscuit if you unsure noah survives

[shell hazel]

we're back to this aren't we? 😄

[tropic summit]

yep that works

[shell hazel]

but jackal instead of centi

[tropic summit]

DPS anti nuke, although single target, so beware whoever is taunting or in p5

RH will shoot p5 unless taunted

then go to p4, p3... etc

another example, with pepper being flex

[cedar orbit]

The enemy is 3 RL anyways, I usually just 2 RL slow ScarBlanc

[shell hazel]

is centi or jackal better here for my comp in p5? reminder opponent team was this:

guess centi is just a battery here and jackal is just sharing link to not die if she's targetted as easily with RH/Helm

both are 2RL

yeah mauled them with jackal as p5 🙂

3RL cindy seems easy to deal with but I guess 2RL Cindy def makes the opponent have to think a bit

[frank dune]

Where can i open this excel file again

[swift mango]

SBS+Rapu+Blanc+Noir+xmaiden/drake/Rossana.

Noah+biscuit+Cindy+Emilia+Noise

Scarlet+Grave+Liter(/Rossanna)+Centi+Jackal.

[wet torrent]

do not have red hood

[swift mango]

[wet torrent]

also xmaid is?

[swift mango]

Xmaiden

[wet torrent]

ah

[rich ledge]

I realise I cant do ur suggestion yet since my helm treasure is not s2 + max s1, its only s1 lvl 4

it would become 3RL

[swift mango]

Is your Rossanna built?

[wet torrent]

let me chec

[swift mango]

[wet torrent]

4/7/7

[swift mango]

Could put her in the two place I just added.

[rich ledge]

I can do this for 2 RL, not sure if rumani and centi would die

[quick lake]

Time to SR5 them

[wet torrent]

Ok no Sanis?

[glad meteor]

Debating whether I do drake treasure now

Or SR5 Bay Moran Nero

[quick lake]

I waiting for more news on CA before committing

[swift mango]

Could put SAnis to SBS place.

[quick lake]

I really want to SR15 Moran

[covert lintel]

treasure first

[shell hazel]

yeah p1 / p2 only burst 1/2 so if they die you can't burst 😄

[glad meteor]

They say patience is a virtue. Yet I have none

[shell hazel]

2 RL is pretty quick, if you toughen up especially p1 with an SR-5 doll it will help

and some OL if not already done (chest + boots)

[quick lake]

Added. Thanks! I realised the reason why I run Noah + Centi/Rumani is because 17% on 2 ClipRL unit would be 2.5RL Cindy my bias is showing

[swift mango]

I really want SR15 Elegg

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/elegg-nikke-video-game-boom-doom-gif-10830260513129898294

[covert lintel]

my noah SR5 doll but still squishy in p1

[wet torrent]

Any advice to go against this?

[covert lintel]

[shell hazel]

scarlet/jackal feed

[rich ledge]

ill give them sr5 and tempering i guess

[shell hazel]

Scarlet / Blanc / RH / flex / Jackal

crown + RRH will speed you up

MG on enemy side will feed you nicely

team 1 anyway 🙂

I didn't see team 2/3 yet

[wet torrent]

dont have red hood sadly

[quick lake]

Why elegg

[wet torrent]

still waiting

[shell hazel]

opponent team 2 looks annoying

I'd be tempted to scar/jack team 1 and noah/biscuit team 3

instead of RH use someone who can buff, maybe even RRH works here

[swift mango]

Noah+Biscuit+Cindy+Centi+Noise to hit team 1.

Emi+Blanc++Crown+Rapipi(Vigor)+Jackal
Or
Emi+Rouge+Blanc+Crown+Jackal.
To hit team 3.

[pale knoll]

2 minutes waiting, damn

[wet torrent]

meant red hood

[pale knoll]

Ohh

[wet torrent]

in pulling her

[pale knoll]

Surely this half anniversary

[wet torrent]

they rly f'ed me with sbs instead at new year

[pale knoll]

Nice pfp btw

[swift mango]

Why Moran?

[wet torrent]

Ok will give that a shot before the reset

[quick lake]

Cause Moran tanks

[wet torrent]

thank you

[swift mango]

Why tank?

[shell hazel]

you're 1 level off a nice CP boost as well

[swift mango]

[wet torrent]

wait 341 is the boost not 340?

[shell hazel]

right 🙂

[wet torrent]

lol

[quick lake]

341 361 381 401.....

[shell hazel]

every 20 levels from 201

or maybe even from level 21 😄

[wet torrent]

why did i think it was 40...

[shell hazel]

punch it if you can

will help with your attack + defending it

[wet torrent]

ye ill punch it

[quick lake]

Dealing 1 dmg to Moran is funny

[wet torrent]

i got the resources i think

[rich ledge]

How is this? after I have to shift helm around since her skill 1 is not lvl 10

[swift mango]

Only Defender deal 1 dmg to Moran and you don't need doll for that.

[quick lake]

I want attacker to deal 1 dmg to Moran

[swift mango]

It's a dream that will never come true.

[pale knoll]

Just like CA

[shell hazel]

CA 2035 no fear

[swift mango]

It will come on March 7th, trust.

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/march-7th-march-7th-honkai-star-rail-gif-517739757607616016

[quick lake]

I realised, u can do a less than 2RL Rookie Arena team without sac

With 17% cs, its 1.66RL

If u have more than 17% on the 3 units, u can nuke before Noah's shield as well

[covert lintel]

my new bracket is scary
so many 490above

[verbal oasis]

I'm using these teams for attacking i need some adjustments. I don't have Anne & Rosanna btw. Thx

[strange linden]

still need advice against these comp, really not sure how to proceed

[unique mountain]

Wut is your sync

[keen vapor]

Good morning, 89% now

[keen vapor]

For attack you show the target then we cook

[upper grove]

@tropic summit I hit him again after him hitting me but this time even with naga instead of blanc, I lost because I couldn't oneshot liter this time so their noah could burst. Should I just slow in Crown in P1 instead of Naga? more built and RL should stay the same at 3RL

with crown buff scar should oneshot liter 100% of the time

[keen vapor]

My pvp is doomed for today

[pale knoll]

Why

[keen vapor]

I'm getting sniped to D3
I tried to go above C10 and failed

It's so over

[pale knoll]

F

[shell hazel]

F

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Maybe wait to end of day before you hit to C7.

[keen vapor]

I did hit 9

[swift mango]

D3 > C10 > C7.

Hitting C9 is useless.

[keen vapor]

Why hit C7 when I can hit C6

[swift mango]

So you can go from D3 to C9 in 1 hit?

[keen vapor]

I got hit

I returned to 10

Aimed at 9

And failed

[swift mango]

Un-understandable have a nice day.

[keen vapor]

nothing that I invest works

[swift mango]

Well, it hard when you are 20 level below everyone else.

Still you should be able to hit up 20 level easily.

[strong hull]

Time to use those boxes

No need to shy.

[keen vapor]

Everyone has meta

And it's 30 level diff, he's just on 381

[strong hull]

[keen vapor]

I need to finish chapters

[strong hull]

You should better build me a 3 defs soon

[keen vapor]

No

[strong hull]

No need to shy

[pale knoll]

I feel lonely now

https://tenor.com/view/peepocomfy-peepo-comfy-cozy-blanket-gif-24439687

[umbral crown]

[strong hull]

Dont start

[pale knoll]

[strong hull]

[obtuse halo]

Can someone give me a good rookie arena build and special arena build? My teams ups are all messed up

[keen vapor]

But PVP needs investment

[obtuse halo]

I don't mind

[ornate pebble]

Need to shuffle up my lineups, any tips appreciated

[keen vapor]

You aren't day 1 player right?

[strong hull]

[obtuse halo]

Nah, my nikkes are level 365

Does that works?

[keen vapor]

40, maybe 60 levels diff, should be enough for D3....

[obtuse halo]

I wish, I'm stuck in diamon 9 because of my bad builds

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-pubg-loading-sniper-reload-gif-4868344854109813711

[keen vapor]

Show box (nikke tab)

[obtuse halo]

Ok

I gotta admit it's uglier then I remember, I stopped playing cause I got stuck

[keen vapor]

Box from lobby ...... Wait, how you got that Rupee

confess

[obtuse halo]

My what?

Rupee?

It's from an event i think

[keen vapor]

You started on game release month confess it

[obtuse halo]

Yes

Day one player, but just casual not very competitive

[keen vapor]

YOU LIED TO ME

[obtuse halo]

My account is level 468

[keen vapor]

ACCOUNT LEVEL IS WORTHLESS

[obtuse halo]

I never said I was a day 1 player

[keen vapor]

YOU JUST ADMITED IT

[obtuse halo]

Hahaha, just to know my dedication

[obtuse halo]

For real? My bad

[keen vapor]

YOURE 140 NIKKE LEVELS BEHIND

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[obtuse halo]

Damm, where do i get more of those red eye things

[keen vapor]

Buying event stamina when hard mode is up defeating Mother Whale on hard campaign

Finishing the normal story

[obtuse halo]

Hahaha, I haven't finished yet and I haven't played almost any hard mode campaing

Btw is the battle data worth for anything I have tons of them and I don't find it a purpose

[keen vapor]

It's dorover

You staying on diamond 9 is a miracle

@kindred tinsel can't even do that
-# Do your overclock

[obtuse halo]

I told you I stayed there by brute force