pvp-arena

[waxen tartan]

also that dude likes to atk just before reset

[slow heart]

for who?

[tulip quest]

Rumani

[waxen tartan]

hes the one that replaced u in our bracket last year

[sleek root]

[tulip quest]

Hahaha no peace again bye peaceful days

[waxen tartan]

even in rookie, he attacks just before reset

[tulip quest]

Dude for what

[waxen tartan]

idk lol

[tulip quest]

I mean Take out B SODa and put in Rumani Instead

[slow heart]

oh

doing worse then before, now even team 2 lost

[iron hatch]

he really wants those extra 10 tickets

i also have to deal with someone who snipes before reset

what he doesn't realize is that tickets earned from fights as first place offsets the amount from daily reward

[tulip quest]

YA i realized that also just little earlier in levels XD

[dire root]

[valid fern]

shouldve been Elegg there

[eager mountain]

yeah just slight below emi nuke without buff
doesnt scale with buffs as well as emi

@tropic summit that same mf got his ass smacked by 13th and still tunnel visioning my 7th after him getting back to 8th
now i'm actually tilted by that slippery lil bastard
lil piece of garbage abandons normal campaign, was 6 lvl above me 6 months ago and now im lv 19 higher without buying anything but dispatch reroll

time to abandon any pve rock spend and get cs asap, lil taiwannese motherfu*ker got his goddamn full time job hitting me

[sleek root]

The guy is picking fights with me again... Why isn't he attacking you on 1st spot Were practically the same CP/build

[waxen tartan]

i have no idea, he never did attack me for months

im bullying him in rookie tho

i think he used all of the free attacks before

u made him gem LOL

[sleek root]

There was only 4 free SP coins. so if he attack more then that, then yea LoL

[tropic summit]

oof, wish my whales could also quit for a few weeks, at least they'd fall within hit range 🐳

oh no

[eager mountain]

mf doesnt push campaign but tunnel vision whoever he hates in pvp, ofc he aint leveling up

[tropic summit]

[eager mountain]

gonna 40 level gap him sooner or later, getting more cp pad lines and swap def everytime and it should be hell for him

[tropic summit]

at least you're CP padding by normal progress

[eager mountain]

we have similar cp cuz hes pvp units are better invested

[tropic summit]

CA forced lvl 400 synch doko

[eager mountain]

if i see this mf in CA

[coarse lake]

need some reit vids

1. reit/blanc/rh/centi/jackal (centi and jackal less than 15% cs) vs something like noise/noah/biscuit/sanis/rapunzel (or any 4 rocket + sanis barely 3rl setups)

2. indom reit vs noah biscuit team (reit team needs to all die soon after burst)

[swift mango]

So 14% CS

[coarse lake]

or less, as long as they don't shoot in 2.5rl basically

0 cs is optimal for this test

[tropic summit]

RIP, both rumani and centi on 18%CS

then again the day i've reiT built is still far

[swift mango]

Man I couldn't even get that much on my Rumani and centi.

[tropic summit]

yeah pretty lucky rolls as it was also for an handful of rocks

think less than 15 rocks on each

[swift mango]

My Helm gonna be my highest CP when I'm done upgrading her skill...

The only one with 18% CS on my roster.

[coarse lake]

can try it if you want, so centi is too much cs, jackal isn't

would be interesting to see how fast that is vs an OG stall sanis

centi and jackal both 20%+ is practically 2rl against that setup from what I've seen

outspeeding the noise

[tropic summit]

we expecting reiT to essentially work as a scarlet minus counter mechanic correct?

[coarse lake]

scarlet - counter + buffer

1 buffer reit is about as strong as 2 buffer scar

[tropic summit]

oh so hits harder actually

[swift mango]

I couldn't even get a CS lien with 10 rock sometime .

Idk when I will get my rei.A2 too....

[tropic summit]

fascinating 🤔

[coarse lake]

she's the strongest insta nuke we have in the game rn

[tropic summit]

might replace cindy for instant nuke over delayed nuke scenario

[coarse lake]

can let you run a strong nuke comp + a blanc comp

[swift mango]

It's helmT the strongest.

[tropic summit]

guess i can bench pmaid for reiT on one of the 5 CA teams aswell

[coarse lake]

*team nuker

you bench every mid nuker (unless you need their gen) for reit

[swift mango]

HelmT can nuke 3 vs Jackal.

[tropic summit]

mhm interesting

[coarse lake]

reit does more dmg than any of them, and feeds the least out of any of them

[tropic summit]

well, another resource sink spotted

nero and moran excuse to be postponed found

[coarse lake]

only her burst is relevant for pvp, but I do need to test to see if her s1 is splash, it looks like it is

[coarse lake]

that's what I want to test with this

[swift mango]

How is Rei2 feed less than Ein?

[coarse lake]

ein is not a good nuker

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

even double buff she isn't reliably killing

[tropic summit]

good luck nuking with ein with actual kill potential within instant nuke

[swift mango]

You never said "good nuker" in your criteria

[eager mountain]

high sync harder and harder for single buff reit to nuke

[swift mango]

Just crit

[eager mountain]

just sakura

another unit to built for CA, sigh

[swift mango]

So ReiA need Blanc.

Or crown?

[glad meteor]

Xmica

[eager mountain]

blanc

[glad meteor]

[eager mountain]

she already has self atk and self atk dmg

[coarse lake]

just don't use her on def if you're that worried

[swift mango]

Or Ade.

[eager mountain]

and throwing in weaker nukes for def instead

or just get stall working

[valid fern]

Ade treasure gonna be lit

[coarse lake]

blanc scar still better than blanc reit for def

bay still neuters reit

[swift mango]

Not gonna work if their team is even a little bit slower.

[upper grove]

goodbye peaceful days, I can cook offensive teams again

[eager mountain]

no peaceful day since mf helm allowing them to break my def

[upper grove]

I could get my spot back from white guy, but I know that he's a rat

[swift mango]

Peaceful days since helmT allow me to def easier...

[glad meteor]

Imagine having resources to invest in xmica

[upper grove]

last time he hit me 4:59 AM Korea time to rat me out, Korean client

[shell hazel]

cindy p1

[upper grove]

last time we were even leveled in sync

now he's 16 lvls ahead

definitely bought core dust, I'm still ahead in campaign

[shell hazel]

I almost accidentally bought a level 😄

[swift mango]

Ade is a good sacc if I do say so myself... Just bring her and let her die for Rossana and gain 3-5% AtK + a debuff immunity.

[valid fern]

man I just realized this whole time I couldve been using drake on my def teams in order to bait my bracket into investing into drake treasure

[eager mountain]

id feed bad for ade

[upper grove]

poor Ade

[shell hazel]

got the basic eva pack thing and it came with 180 core dust crates = an extra level

[coarse lake]

iirc ade doesn't work that well bc there are tons of other sources of debuffs

[upper grove]

he wasted his helm on scar jack team

just dodge that and kill the other team

[long chasm]

Anyone know what best team rookie for deff , i have high cp than other

[swift mango]

Well before B1 of enemy it's mostly taunt from Noah, Noise just don't put your dps at p1-2.

[tropic summit]

2RL teams variations

any of these 3 for starter

[coarse lake]

oh wait ade simply doesn't work on sakura anyway

sakura is a team buff

[tropic summit]

meaning ppl will build sakura just to kill SBS and reiT dmg output uh

[coarse lake]

if you have a team that can't use blanc as buffer, reit is prob still the best option

[valid fern]

did devs ever mention fixed sync for CA or is it just speculation?

[coarse lake]

most won't, bc there are simply better options

[tropic summit]

everything is speculation and could be changed anytime anyway

[swift mango]

We have SBS as Defense option without fearing Sakura... Maybe if Rei2 proven to be too strong... Not anymore...

[coarse lake]

no chance sakura becomes popular in pvp now

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

why do that when you can just use 0 invest bay or noah

even easier alternatives than sbs

[graceful grotto]

sakura? as in summer sakura?

[coarse lake]

if you somehow find out that they built sakura to counter reit, count that as a win

[swift mango]

Bay is hard to catch a nuke without knowing their exact speed... Noah could be used for another team.

[valid fern]

sbs gets hard cheesed by biscuit

[coarse lake]

they're bricking their account to do what they can already do with bay

[swift mango]

Bay doesn't do much to be honest. Try to use her yourselves everytime you attack then.

I would rather spare me the trouble of using her.

[tulip quest]

nORMAL Sakura

[coarse lake]

bay does the same job as sakura

deal with the nuke

[swift mango]

Good luck with the timing

[coarse lake]

just match speed

[swift mango]

[glad meteor]

Can bay beat Indom rei.t?

[swift mango]

And the after attack if you don't use her with biscuit

[glad meteor]

[coarse lake]

indom reit is nothing special

[glad meteor]

Have we even tested

[swift mango]

[tulip quest]

People are thinking of barely viable pvp comps since C.A can't helped it tho few pvp characters worth investing

[graceful grotto]

welp

b1 pvp is in better shape than b2 at least

[glad meteor]

Don’t know how much double buffer will do once invested. Need resources

[coarse lake]

it's just mostly st dmg, even if the s1 is splash

[swift mango]

St dmg is deadly enough so long as there is no biscuit.

[glad meteor]

Want to test how it compares to scarlet with low feed environment

[coarse lake]

ST auto dmg prob more than scarlet

eh actually it's close to 5 stack scar

that's with lvl 4 s1

lvl 7 isn't that much stronger tbh

main question is if there is actually splash on that s1

[swift mango]

Done MLB my rei.a... should I try for core+?

[coarse lake]

wot

why tf you mlbing rei

[swift mango]

Or MLB my Asuka instead?

Or save...

[tropic summit]

wait what

[swift mango]

The same reason I MLB rei.A1

[tropic summit]

waifu? didn't know you were into her

[coarse lake]

both reis are just asuka's dog

[tropic summit]

[coarse lake]

objectively, you always dupe the asuka before you dupe the rei

[swift mango]

They are both better than Asuka for arena.

Have a problem with that?

[tropic summit]

as always, Blood's thinking it's not just out of the box, it's out of the whole house

[coarse lake]

waste of resources

[swift mango]

Only used 150 odd pulls on ReiA2 much better than rei.A1 150 odd pulls and 400 tickets.

[tropic summit]

link your 3 current teams here and your box with nikke ordered by strength

[swift mango]

I considered this a win.

Still have 49k gems left.

[shell hazel]

Railtracer please can you cook me up 5 teams for CA?

imagine how overworked you will be sir

[tropic summit]

just busy morning, got 3 meetings still to do

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

good thing i'm on smartwork can lazy around inbetween at least

[shell hazel]

5 teams for CA is 66% more cooking needed

[swift mango]

Anyone go for MLB Asuka here?

[shell hazel]

I have considered it but not sure I want to, almost 50k gems left and I got a copy of each pretty fast (150 pulls and I had all 5 units). I feel like it's tempting fate to try for more

[swift mango]

I have MLB Asuka in HI3 so not really tried first event. Idk if Eye patched Asuka worthy...

[shell hazel]

if I do change my mind I'll have to limit how many extra I even try I think

if you want a good wind dps for raids I think she will be

[upper grove]

asuka2 good (wind) unit for pve so I MLB her, 12k gems left

but 1k gold tickets for 2.5 anniv

[swift mango]

I know PvE and I'm not very care about it.

[wild flame]

Help me build my sp arena def team pls

[eager mountain]

like reit burst bg so also thinking about mlbing her...

[tropic summit]

SP arena:
scarlet blanc rosanna rumani jackal
naga centi cind noir noise
noah biscuit rapu sbs tia

cubes:
quantum on jackal, rumani, centi
vigor on rapu, blanc, biscuit, noise
temperance on noah

notes: get helmT asap, phase 2 s1 lvl 10 is enough

[valid fern]

is there a powerspike at MLB ?

[tropic summit]

give me your recent box in case

[prisma basalt]

love u

:3

[swift mango]

Can you show Asuka2 burst BG?

I also got Maid Mast .. any use for her without Maid Anchor? except as B2 in arena.

[coarse lake]

No

[swift mango]

No bigger background? I can't seem to see the whole thing she is sitting on.

[tropic summit]

scarlet mari rh anis jackal
centi sbs rapu biscuit a:IM
auto

notes: wishlist/get asap rumani, noise(synchro), cindy, helmT (stage 2, s1 lvl 10)

[upper grove]

and she yells TOTSUGEKI like some dolphin throwing pirate

[upper grove]

the evangelion can only be seen at the beginning of burst animation, zoomed out a bit. that's the lobby BG

[swift mango]

What does she say in English?

[strong hull]

[upper grove]

all EVA units don't have EN voice acting afaik, only JP

[swift mango]

If you tap on her, there should be a line... Rei2 line is "I won't lose" for example.

[coarse lake]

From my anime knowledge... Does it translate to attack?

[upper grove]

yeah it means something like attack or charge

[coarse lake]

I'm not anime fraud

[upper grove]

"Charge!"

[swift mango]

The sitting pose and the line kinda be dissonance.

[strong hull]

I meant Modernia first affection also say that

[swift mango]

I think I will save for the eventually Konosuba Collab and Core+7 Darkness.

[tropic summit]

you're thinking long ahead

is konosuba even mentioned? 🤔

[valid fern]

he will manifest it

[bleak latch]

this is way to quiet
i though i was gonna hit by twrice by now

[swift mango]

It was... Konosuba is like one of the big names when you decide a Collaboration.

[bleak latch]

hope i don't have any new sniper in this cycle

[swift mango]

Whenever survey has a Collab question, you will see Konosuba...

[valid fern]

I just want Blue Archive collab 😭

[swift mango]

Gacha would almost never Collab with its competitiors unless same company. See the last question "what game did you play recently" in the survey. Those that listed there would never be Collab with this game.

[raven plover]

where darkness Im ready to c7

Im waiting doraemon / konosuba / overlord collab

[quick lake]

Im waiting for… ReZero

[swift mango]

Man thirty for that Jaiko ass.

[strong hull]

[upper grove]

current def teams, 3rd team is CP pad, don't have quantum 7 atm for 2RL on team 1 (3 quantum 4 gets me to 2.5RL). there is also a base rosanna 0 invest not on pics. Who should I invest and OL next? everyone up to xmaiden has OL

and what kind of team can/should I cook for def

[tropic summit]

T3 is supposed to be pad team right? might aswell promote T1 to 2RL, T2 keep as is, T3 go full ham on CP

[upper grove]

T3 is basically my pve push team with highest CP by far

I can/want to do 3 proper def teams so if I know what kind of teams I want to build I can work towards that. Not using noise or biscuit atm feels so wasted

[tropic summit]

this above is a pretty simple option

[upper grove]

Yup I had similar ideas. What would be an ideal 3rd team though if I start investing in pvp units now

[tropic summit]

meta teams on the medium/long term could push for these

[upper grove]

Return to Noah biscuit sbs I'll work on Noise next then

Thanks, appreciate it

[tropic summit]

amen to that

[jolly steeple]

Could someone give me the best SP Arena def team with these units (helm has treasure no one else has treasure) ❤️

[wicked horizon]

I wish I could propose a truce with some of these people in SPA.

Endless back-and-forth keeping us all down.

[quick lake]

No truce, only violence

[wicked horizon]

Diamond 2 up is a free-for-all.

Got lucky with the reshuffle.
Fairly old server this time around.

[umbral crown]

Where my idolmaster collab

[shell hazel]

haha I won't hassle you about it yet, I will check again later (I got like 180 ordinary tickets to do might even get a Rumani!) 😄

just waiting for the two new passes to complete + 10 pulls from the event store to get

I'm building SBS atm, done 1/4 OL but my first 4 rocks rolled absolute garbage

out of rocks so I'm going to just keep OLing here, and I know I need to build Noah/Blanc more still as well

[lunar pawn]

new teams ain't defending at all

[lime night]

is there any possibly replacement for laplace?

[shell hazel]

my friend is back at chal 7 we're wondering if we can take on chal 4... enemy comps attached, think these are somewhat doable or has the def cooked up a somewhat decent 3 RL trio?

[tulip holly]

def team reccomendations ? havent changed them ina while lol

[swift mango]

Combine 1 Tetra defender Toitore + another gear I just farmed today. Result= 1 Tetra defender Toitore.

Only got 1 gear from 3 MC and zero rock.... With this I effectively earned nothing from AI today.

And lost 100 of those combine thingy.

50000 arena points.

[shell hazel]

I had 2 pilgrim supporter boots, I combined them and got pilgrim supporter helm, none of which I needed

[swift mango]

Maybe I will just alternative between MC and Karen for now.

One boss only and luck bad.

I only need 1 Tetra Defender gauntlet and I would stop farming Al gear for a year.

Could upgrade Nero with just that.

Hmmm still lack gear for Miranda though.

I shouldn't have been so high and sr5 Miranda so soon... When I don't even have gear to use on her.

[shell hazel]

I need boots for Helm so farming the spider thing

[swift mango]

R15 ReiA... Now I only have 90 purple, 50 gold and a dream.

[quick lake]

U’re building ReiT?

[swift mango]

Yeah when I get Skill reset that is... Still need to 10/10 my HelmT first.

[quick lake]

Im still on the fence on MLB-ing her

[tropic summit]

idols with guns? there's one already then

[quick lake]

Dont think she’s worth it

[swift mango]

Worth it for me.

[tropic summit]

you shouldn't be able to defend against equal invest/knowledge opponent, that's normal don't worry

keep changing them till you find something that works, is all you can do

[swift mango]

Emilia core+1 also worth it for me.

[tropic summit]

yes, any clip SG burst gen tier

the next closest to ideal is a non-feeding one, either helmT or xmaiden

[solid flare]

i didn't change anything

[quick lake]

Sweaty gemming bracket

[swift mango]

New bracket, new challengers?

[swift mango]

Or the 4 compensation coin unused.

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit when you get a mo please check #pvp-arena message 🙂

[umbral crown]

Thats what i was hoping

But no

[solid flare]

theese two used to be separate brackets. i only had to face one at a time for 3 months. i am not looking forward to 2extra whales on top and these 2 below me

[solid flare]

100% sweating

[swift mango]

The +40 lv CN whale in my bracket kinda gave up on hitting the new guy 10 level above me with a built Arena roster I guess.

Time for me to change hitting target.

[solid flare]

they spent the unused on me last cycle

[quick lake]

Team 2 can just auto/5 SG/ele strong units to take out opponent’s B1

[tropic summit]

oh these are easy, you can do it yourself Hippo (you can share your matchup if you're unsure)

T1 has x3 feed
T2 weak to noah or can be skipped
T3 weak to p1 taunter + biscuit or simply faster 2RL or 3RL nuke

[tropic summit]

show current teams and we can take it from there

[swift mango]

Dude could only bully peeps 40 level lower than him. Powerless against guy 20 level lower range.

[solid flare]

maybe i should hit up 3 tiles just to get out of their reach

[swift mango]

Why not? If u can def can hit up.

[tulip holly]

you better make new ones XD , I asked for the old ones too but they are kinda like 400k behind my attack team lol , but sure

[shell hazel]

his attack teams are basically on the left, not in the right order necessarily 🙂

[tropic summit]

new bracket, new enemies you can't find because CP gapped

[shell hazel]

so we can scarlet feed t1

[tropic summit]

yep could re-use as is, especially scarlet's team

just ensure you fight the right matchups

[swift mango]

The new C5 in my bracket is fkinh 324... 20 level lower than me... I wonder why no one hitting him....

[tropic summit]

they all want a piece of you instead, tasty Blood's butt cheeks

[swift mango]

No one hitting me as well. The only rank swap was the new CN dude 10 level higher than me kicking the CN whale down to C2 and dude can't beat him.

[tropic summit]

501 synch and no rumani? where's she

[swift mango]

The new CN guy was coincidentally the one who spent 3000 gems to hit me in Rookie last bracket... Maybe he just gem it...

My CN whale doesn't gem...

[tropic summit]

noise centi cind helm pepper
scarlet blanc rh xmaiden jackal
noah biscuit rapu sbs la+

cubes:

quantum on centi, jackal, pepper (mandatory for hitting RL threshold, at least lvl 3)
vigor on noise, blanc, rapu, biscuit
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

-invest in noah and jackal, push for S15 doll, 4/4/4, 4 OL lvl 0
-get rumani, can replace then pepper copium (less SG feed)

[shell hazel]

clean sweep won all 3 🙂

[tropic summit]

yeah opponent splitting power on 3 teams and poorly at that

[tulip holly]

Lmao posted while I was taking screenshots

Don't have rumani no

[tropic summit]

ok definitly kill that T2, T1 and T3 were decent

[lunar pawn]

will do that after I max helm s1 and OL rumani

[shell hazel]

we sitting chal 4 for now not sure if we can mald 1-3 😄

[lunar pawn]

man, why did I get shoved in a whale bracket

[tropic summit]

i think your only issue is CP gap, he has good picks overall

[shell hazel]

thanks Railtracer 🙂

[tulip holly]

thanks

get rumani how lol not going to pull on perm banner with gems lel

[tropic summit]

just wishlist her and pray

[swift mango]

Maybe my new bracket is full of snipers and I would only see actions 15 minutes before reset.

[tulip holly]

yea that's done already

[raven plover]

2025 selector

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[tropic summit]

damn your utilities are down so low

less investiment than mana and anchor

[swift mango]

Do your units even have OL pass the 3rd lines? Doubt

[runic stump]

What is the meta team for PvP?

[swift mango]

The team that's 30%+ more cp than your opponent

[glacial lion]

huh

[runic stump]

For each Nikke?

[tropic summit]

centi cind helmT emilia rouge
scarlet blanc rh xmaiden jackal
sbs naga alice mana rrh

cubes

quantum on jackal, centi
vigor on rouge, blanc, mana
any other nikke run highest lvl cube available

notes: check attached SS for what to aim toward to, get teams reviewed accordingly

[tropic summit]

can run any of these

#pvp-arena message

[swift mango]

Count whole team cp

[tulip holly]

for noah and jackal need 3 line ol or just 4 rocks

[tropic summit]

4/4/4 SR5 doll or higher 4 pieces OL lvl 0, ideally 3 lines each

keep atk%, elem atk and CS%

[quick lake]

are u running the teams on the right?

[tropic summit]

eh noway, rosanna and mari aren't even ready

[quick lake]

[tropic summit]

also no emi @quick lake

[quick lake]

True

[pale knoll]

Did you all just put a sr doll on blanc straight away? I don't think I'll commit to upgrading her R to SR tbh

[tropic summit]

SR5 + vigor and you could barely survive on later synchs

(if p2)

[quick lake]

Im waiting till more info on CA before I commit anything more

[pale knoll]

Fair

[swift mango]

My Blanc is still sr0 because it was at the begin of Doll system... Gotta do her SR5 later

[tropic summit]

i need CA because SP arena is becoming meaningless, can't attack whales while ppl learn my defs

mfs with 50+ levels should just get their on bracket

and C7 to make it even better

[quick lake]

Yeah same. Now everybody jusy running 2x2RL, cant defend

[tropic summit]

aye, meaningless

[swift mango]

Invest more.

[quick lake]

till 2035 CA

[swift mango]

CP is the best

[tropic summit]

i'm keeping money away from this pit, thank you

[swift mango]

My def team is 1.64m now and we are same level.

You should be 361 too considered you started 1 month before me

[tulip holly]

2.3m cp def to 3m actually got a little higher than my atk team if I stay same pos on the next reset Ill ask for atk ones 😄

[tropic summit]

atk ones are tailored to the opponent as needed

i guess on general purpose keep a scarlet team, a 2RL nuke and a 2-3RL nuke or stall noah team

[tulip holly]

ik but im lazy as f to read about how to make teams and I dont want to keep asking lol , Ill just ask for the furthest opponent and try to stay there

I think going further than 7-10 bracket is suicide anyways since it's mostly leviathans

im happy with 2k gems but if I get more it's cool too

[pseudo wave]

I still don't have og scarlet who should I replace her?

[tropic summit]

need to see your box to tell, post it with nikke ordered by strength

[pseudo wave]

Ok just a sec

[tropic summit]

these are example of alternative indom teams anyway

[pseudo wave]

You mean box like this?

I just put some random team team😂

[tropic summit]

like this

#pvp-arena message

well if your teams aren't optimized even better to take this chance to review them

[raven plover]

send your nu- units

viper phase 3 treasure?

[pseudo wave]

I just want the wallpaper 🥲

[tropic summit]

helmT treasured, stage 2 and s1 lvl 10?
laplace treasured?

[raven plover]

we can use her as burst gen

[pseudo wave]

Helm favourite weapon otw

[tropic summit]

your utilities are also seemingly very low invested

would be these

[pseudo wave]

You mean her skill?

[tropic summit]

ye skill 1, if stage 2 and lvl 10 she can be used as the best battery ingame

[swift mango]

More like zero investment

[pseudo wave]

Skill 1,2 and ulti lvl 7

[swift mango]

Biscuit on 3rd line.

The rest on 4-5th line.

[tropic summit]

bring helmT s1 to lvl 9 or 10 asap

[shell hazel]

93 fav item materials / 110 getting there 🙂

[pseudo wave]

Ok

[tropic summit]

oh nice she's usable already then

[pseudo wave]

Bro I don't have time

[swift mango]

I don't think time is the matter here. Just how you used your resource.

[pseudo wave]

You mean like upgrade the skill and burst right?

I don't have enough materials🥲

[swift mango]

OL them x4. Skill 444 is enough.

Purple doll lv0 them

[pseudo wave]

Custom module not enough hmmm

[swift mango]

@pale knoll

Use 4 rock on each of his Arena units. 4 rock each of his raid units. And still clear to hard chapter 30 at lv389.

Don't say you progressed faster than him.

[pseudo wave]

I should follow this right?

[swift mango]

Yeah, ol them, doll them sr0 if you are not invested in arena.

You won't want spare rss to r15 them anyway.

And r0 is just bad

[shell hazel]

I went mostly with R-0 for now but I do want to SR-5 some units, if not I guess I can just flat upgrade to SR-0 in the future

need spare dolls to begin with 🙂

[swift mango]

I go with SR5 if I use them in arena now.

Moran, Biscuit and Blanc still stuck at sr0 since early day though.

[shell hazel]

mainly gated on SR-10/SR-15 by orange materials anyway

need for Rapi/Crown etc still as stuck on SR-5

[swift mango]

I used zero orange on helmT... except for r10-r15.

I'm mainly gated by blue

[shell hazel]

not even for SR-5 onwards?

I'm saving my boxes for dolls atm will open on first day of the SR I think

[swift mango]

Was lucky enough. 150 blue and 60 purple was enough for each phase.

I only use Red after the other 2 fail.

[shell hazel]

yeah me too, man that is lucky 😄

isn't it 150 blue + 30 purple?

[swift mango]

60 purple for 1 SR level

5 blue = 2 purple

30 red for 1 SR level

2 purple = 1 red.

Basically

5 blue = 2 purple = 1 red.

[shell hazel]

I think I normally do 100 blue which is 2k XP and then 20 purple or so for the last bit

[swift mango]

That's one level.

[shell hazel]

yeah then I go to oranges

don't level up with blues/purples normally after that

[fathom rock]

5x rrh weak
New guest from reshuffle if i exclude the new whale

[tropic summit]

here you go

[fathom rock]

Rail
Reshuffle did NOT save me

[tropic summit]

sorry took a phone call

[lunar pawn]

yea I think they've done smth different with this reshuffle

seems they trimmed down a lot of brackets and a lot of people got shoved with whales all around

[glad meteor]

Sanis noir

[fathom rock]

3rl by feed

And they so vulnerable to rrh

[glad meteor]

plus sanis brick

[fathom rock]

Game crashed

[lunar pawn]

[glad meteor]

I seen your name in my alt account. Are you in egg union ?

[fathom rock]

Not the worst thing i saw
I remember the doro blanc sanis noir team

[glad meteor]

We in same sp

[fathom rock]

That would be my na alt yes

[glad meteor]

What are they cooking

[fathom rock]

Im slacking in alt sp
Actually slacking in everything
You beat ch32?

[glad meteor]

Nope

[fathom rock]

What ign

[glad meteor]

I have to rely on grave so I don’t mald

Kara

I beat 28 this week I think

[fathom rock]

Good to know, nice
Ive been blessed with a crown im not utilizing
Beat 28 last month and never pushed since, pushing on main rn

[glad meteor]

there’s a couple other discord players in our na bracket

Found one in prydwen

[fathom rock]

Chanyuk

[glad meteor]

Yeah

[fathom rock]

Ill just enjoy my 2k gems till jackal or biscuit shows up

And push more campaign my alt is preparing a brick rn

[glad meteor]

I need to push too. Need more levels. C1/2 260+

I beat one then they attacked me 28m later

[fathom rock]

C1 started 1 event before me
Also im sleeping on cases this is sad
I shpuld rush my main to push my alt

3 more chapters to go

[tropic summit]

rip, me neither, got worse

[pale knoll]

Don't we all love a few more whales in our brackets

[fathom rock]

I have rest of day to mald

Bruh i got hit to dia 1 again immediately

[pseudo wave]

Alright thank youu

But... I don't have purple scarlet

[strange linden]

What should be the best counter for these teams?

Fall back to diamond as expected, on their first try as well
Still managed to beat them too but man I don't want to fight everyday just to stay at top 10

[tulip quest]

Red Hood Emilia most likely

[tulip quest]

Eeee competition is fun tho

[tropic summit]

sorry fixed it, seems like i forgot to copy paste sbs over scarlet, added the quantums needed

[cold steeple]

How can I counter this team? It seems like my Scarlet cannot finish them off

[tulip quest]

Noah Red hood is countered by Emilia Jackal + buffer comp or Stall comp like biscuit

[tulip quest]

Got biscuit?

[cold steeple]

Yea

Let me ss my emilia team

This is my emilia team but I lost as well

[tulip quest]

did Laplace killed biscuit?

Laplace is iron Elemental advantage agaisnt biscuit

[cold steeple]

I actually did not pay attention to that let me try again

[tulip quest]

how did you die?

Can try changing places of characters

Noah Crown, Biscuit Emilia RH

[cold steeple]

Yea my biscuit died after noah burst ends

[fathom rock]

Your scarlet needs a buffer thats why
Have helm treasure?

[cold steeple]

Treasure not maxed yet

[fathom rock]

Phase 2?

[cold steeple]

Yea

[fathom rock]

Then she is perfectly fine to use

[cold steeple]

It works thanks a lot

[cold steeple]

But my gear for her is not good yet

[tulip quest]

Also use Helm T if you can

she's a monster

[cold steeple]

So I guess it’s better to use other teams I guess

[tulip quest]

No no red hood is just weak B3 in pvp countered and cheesed by biscuit,

[tulip quest]

Depends on opposing team, there isn't really a best team yet just Meta ones

[outer grail]

is assult cube boosting "hit rates" considered good in arena? and also could you give an advice on these nikkes which cube should I use just for pvp purpose Liter,Blanc,Noir,Scarlet

[cold steeple]

I see alright, thanks for the tips

I’m just getting gated by cp as my group has a average level of 480+ meanwhile I’m 427

[tulip quest]

Hit rates isn't affected in pvp all have 100% hitrates

[fathom rock]

Its nwver considered actually good tho

[outer grail]

I see thank you, anyways could you suggest cubes for these nikke blanc,noir,liter,scarlet

[outer grail]

Is helm without fav item good for arena with no burst team should I replace her from scarlet to helm

[fathom rock]

Garbage

[tulip quest]

Scarlet Bastion or Resilence, for others HMM depends on Math of burst gen actually can use bastion, resilience or Relic quantum

[tulip quest]

Need treasure to make her work

[outer grail]

so I need fav item and fast burst team to make use of helm in arena correct?

[fathom rock]

She will make the team faster burst but yeha she needs fav item for that

[tulip quest]

Burst gen Chart

Helm without treasre not Viable in pvp trash even

[outer grail]

those are no burst team just a high cp overall team because I use all meta burst gen nikkes on other team, this team included (def side position) scarlet vigor /blanc vigor/liter endurance/alice adjutant/noir endurance

[tulip quest]

Yea can do that on your 3rd team

[outer grail]

thank you, Im saving the image I will try to invest in shotgun team then just to replace this no burst team more like a throwaway team at the moment

[muted stag]

cookable?

[outer grail]

@tulip quest btw what do you think which cube is better for those two liter and noir should I go endurance or tempering, cubes are the same level

[tulip quest]

Tempering is almost better 7% -damage taken is multiplication while as defense is kinda adititive in nature

[outer grail]

wow, thank you for the knowledge

@tulip quest waitt from the image you sent to me, there is no anchor innocent, I currently use her on fast burst team atm is she good at generating burst gen?

[tulip quest]

same as biscuit

you can know if they're clip if you test the shooting pose, if she reloads once it's not clip

Example Anis reloads 3 times after finishing her rounds (Ammo deplete)

[haughty mortar]

Maybe I should be asking in here

@quick lake This is my updated roster

[outer grail]

oh yea I totally forgot about that I read clips,mags on somewhere on the intenet for arena guide, I will try it in shooting range for myself. Im going to replace anchor with centi for burst gen

much thanks for your help

[tulip quest]

Ya anchor kinda Meh in burst gen

[quick lake]

T1 might not be enough dmg. Single buffed Scar against Noise buffed opponent generally doesnt work

[quick lake]

Can send the previous teams I sent u. Cant rmb what I recommended. Any new units since then?

[quick lake]

Its fine. The previous teams I recommended are still good

[haughty mortar]

I have the whole Collab crew now. Added doll to Asuka Wille and has 3/4 abnormal gear. #questions message

[outer grail]

do I go with jackle burst or rumani burst on fast gen team, I will study about 2.5RL 3RL later on

[tulip quest]

Jackal buff's single target burst of others

[quick lake]

Collab units not very pvp unless u have ReiT invested

[tulip quest]

Rumani burst is uuh kinda bad for me Go jackal

[haughty mortar]

Not planning on doing so ever. Reis are noob traps

[quick lake]

yeah good. Focus on main campaign team. Pvp is mostly later stuff

[haughty mortar]

Yeah

I wanna get my pvp gemmies too though!

[quick lake]

Priorities if u can is to OL Centi, Jackal, Blanc, and work towards Treasure Helm if u want

[haughty mortar]

I would prio Helm over all those other slat

But I need SR doll first!

[muted stag]

welp so cant i suppose

[swift mango]

Did you save your selector?

[quick lake]

Use ur T1 against opponent T2
Use ur T2 against opponent T3

[muted stag]

i think cp deficit

[haughty mortar]

This is my strat. I stagger my teams. I did this as I saw people putting their teams in CP order XDD

[swift mango]

She has stronger nuke than Scarlet.

Strongest instant nuke in the game right now.

[muted stag]

able to use like rapu instead?

[quick lake]

T2 swap Centi for Blanc

[haughty mortar]

She ain't stronger than SBS. I watched a few analysis vids and we won't even need Rei. We can run both of them in the team.

Also, her nuke is single target

[swift mango]

SBS? She isn't even instant nuke.

[haughty mortar]

Asuka green

[quick lake]

Should work

[muted stag]

t3 can swop rumani for rapu?

[swift mango]

Brother, you are confusing Arena and PvE.

SBS is nothing on the scale of Arena Meta compared to her drunk version. When we say Scarlet, it's the original.

SBS is the alter.

[quick lake]

Can swap biscuit for Rapu

[haughty mortar]

Yeah you right. MB. Yes drunken swordfighting OP

OG Scarlet is PVP Goddess

[muted stag]

still in deficit tho 14.1

[haughty mortar]

@quick lake So for Rookie should I just take the 1st team you recommended?

[muted stag]

t2 14.3 deficit
t3 14.1 deficit

[quick lake]

Yes, team should be fine

[quick lake]

Deficit is 15.4%, so should be fine

[muted stag]

how much deficit then can fight 13.1?

[muted stag]

kk

\

[quick lake]

sweet! noice

[muted stag]

thx

[fathom rock]

Yes, one shows up i get the other

[cedar orbit]

I fought the stall team for the first time and it's just as bad as it looks like

[tropic summit]

with scarlet or with cindy?

[cedar orbit]

It was a Nero, Moran, Quiry, Rapunzel and Helm team

I just Cindyd it

[flat ore]

hey guys whats the best arena teams atm ? these are the nikkes i dont have

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

@keen vapor what do you think, can we perhaps pin something similar to this?

#pvp-arena message

as it seems a fairly recurring question, might aswell come up with 4-5 archetypes and pin it

[cedar orbit]

Best team is 2 RL Cindy

[flat ore]

thanks

[keen vapor]

What you mean investing on Nero won't solve my SP def problem

[quick lake]

Yes agreed. Should be pinned

[keen vapor]

Emilia teams puts me in doubts

[tropic summit]

indom emi as archetype nada?

i mean we can discard those that feel way too specific or not enough general purpose

[quick lake]

Standard SPA Defence Teams

Scalet-Trina Teams
Scar Siren/Soda Trina Helm.T/ClipRL Jackal (2RL)
Scar Rosanna Trina Helm.T/ClipRL Jackal (2RL)
Scar Trina Helm.T Laplace.T/xMaiden/ClipSG Moran (2RL)
Scar Trina* Laplace.T xMaiden Rumani* (2RL)
Rapunzel Scar Trina ClipRL Rumani (2RL)
Scar Trina ClipRL/Helm.T flex flex (2RL)

Scarlet-Jackal Teams
Scar Blanc RH Helm.T Jackal (3RL)
Scar Blanc RH Emilia Jackal (3RL)
Scar Blanc RH Centi/Rumani/ClipRL Jackal (3RL)
Scar Blanc RH xMaiden/Laplace.T/ClipSG Jackal (3RL)
Scar Grave/xAnne/Mari RH flex Jackal (3RL)

Emilia Teams
Blanc Emilia RH Biscuit Helm.T (2.5RL)
Blanc Emilia RH Biscuit Rumani/Centi (3RL)

Cindy Teams
Noah Centi Cindy Helm.T Noise (2RL)
Noise Centi* Cindy Helm.T xMaiden* (2RL)
Rumani Noah Cindy Biscuit Helm.T (2RL)
Noah Centi Cindy Anis Rumani (2RL)
Noah/Centi Biscuit Cindy Emilia Rumani (2.5RL)
Noah Centi Cindy Biscuit Noise/Liter (3RL)
Rumani Biscuit Cindy ClipSG ClipSG (3RL)

Blanc Teams
Blanc SBS Biscuit Emi/Laplace.T/xMaiden Rumani (3RL)
Blanc SAnis Biscuit Emi/Laplace.T/xMaiden Rumani (3RL)
Blanc SBS/SAnis Biscuit ClipSG Rumani (3RL)
Blanc SBS/SAnis Biscuit flex Pepper

Noah Teams
Noah SBS/SAnis Helm.T Biscuit Rumani (2RL)
Noah Biscuit Emi RH Rumani (2.5RL)
Noah SBS/SAnis RH Biscuit Rumani/Centi (3RL)

SAnis Teams
Moran Biscuit SAnis Emilia Rumani/Centi (3RL)
Moran Biscuit SAnis Laplace/xMaiden Rumani/Centi (3RL)
Moran Biscuit SAnis ClipSG Rumani/Centi (3RL)

Nero Moran Teans (Do NOT run these teams half-heartedly)
Nero Moran Quiry Rapun Helm.T (2.5RL)
Nero Moran Helm.T Rapun Quiry (2.5RL)
Nero Moran Helm.T Rapun Mana (2.5RL)
Nero Moran Helm.T Rapun flex (4-5RL)

Cookie Cutter SPA Team Setup
Scar Trina xMaiden Laplace.T Jackal (2RL)
Noah Centi Cindy Helm.T Noise (2RL)
Blanc SBS/SAnis Biscuit Emilia Rumani (3RL)

(*) units require quantum cube
Teams broadly ordered from best to worse

Team Builder Site:
https://nikke-deck.web.app
https://nikke.work/

[tropic summit]

i'd add also SBS and s.anis indom or noah variations

lastly it could be a good idea to start thinking of moran/nero stall variations
oh and probably rosanna variation in scar teams

[glad meteor]

Goons are up cooking 🍣

SBS and sanis teams are interchangeable most times. Unless biscuit burst or red hood buffer indom scalter

[tulip holly]

a flowchart about which team to use against which one would be cool too

[unkempt kestrel]

Teams feel so vulnerable without blanc or noah

[tulip holly]

like team A vs team B and not vs C

[quick lake]

Yeah, I thought about it

[tulip holly]

because often I am so lazy that I dont even swap teams , someday SU will incentivize this by actually letting you swap teams between slots

[swift mango]

I think you should discuss it with @grizzled bone

If you were serious about it.

Or a mod.

[keen vapor]

Boss

[keen vapor]

Mod is a requirement, MAs can't pin

[swift mango]

Yeah but he could call them easier.

Maybe you could call them instead.

[keen vapor]

True

[quick lake]

At least now we can just refer them to the message above

Next is taking on cooks for CA

[outer grail]

@quick lake do you give SR dolls to centi/rumani/biscuit/anis just to boost team cp I have 2 SR boxes selection but no RL dolls is it worth to use it now because if you gave them a doll it will be there forever anyways

[grizzled bone]

i've been summoned?

[quick lake]

If u dont think u'll be getting them to SR5, can directly equip SR0 doll on them is fine

[quick lake]

@grizzled bone can consider pinning given that SPA teams are pretty standard

[quick lake]

Hopefully my suggested teams are alright

[outer grail]

thanks then I will give them SR dolls now so I have centi/biscuit/rumani/jackle (currently holding R doll) who should I go with

[quick lake]

All 4 are pretty good. Can put Jackal and Centi first if u want. Note that once u put SR0, it will be hard/expensive to get them to SR5 in the future

[tropic summit]

i can vouch for Rheax, teams look good

and are also fairly common available or at least as a target to build toward to

think we can redirect a lot of ppl to those

[grizzled bone]

do you guys think pinning standard teams is a good idea? 🤔

[tropic summit]

while we can still cook on-point, having those as general reference seems good enough

[quick lake]

At worse we'll just ask them to refer to this once in a while

[tropic summit]

if you feel it's a bad idea feel free to scratch that tho

[outer grail]

my luck all went to super success instend of pulling a gacha banner (110 pulls for Rei alone) but 1% back to back to lv15 dolls

[grizzled bone]

I honestly dont know. I haven't been very active in the channel recently so my chance to lurk here is limited.

[quick lake]

If u think u'll be decently casual with pvp, then SR0 is fine

[rich ledge]

can new rei replace scarlet?

[grizzled bone]

so one of my fears of the standard teams here is that people will just go to the teams and then not actually learn anything. Which is a lot of what happens now anyway but at least they had to ask and that might create a learning opportunity

[outer grail]

I will give them R doll first as ur guideline but now I think I will go for one SR doll right away

[rich ledge]

i dont have noah its quite hard to make up for it 😔

[grizzled bone]

but i can definitely see the merit of it being pinned since it's such a common question

[cedar orbit]

don't really see the point of running Noah in a Cindy team

[quick lake]

Just for more speed tbh

U could run some Jackal Cindy team, but u need to figure out ur other 2 teams

[rich ledge]

if u are vs a scarlet team u can block scarlet with Noah

[cedar orbit]

yeah, but unbuffed Scarlet team doesn't kill you, buffed Scarlet team is not 2 RL

[quick lake]

Can run:
Jackal Crown Centi Cindy xMaiden

[quick lake]

yeah agreed here. Any standard cindy teams u usually go for?

The teams I recommended have alot of bias/idiosyncrasy from me

[grizzled bone]

can you guys think of any more frequently asked questions? maybe we create a pin for a little more broad scope?

[rich ledge]

So far even if cindy survives the other members are dead and you would lose in the end?

[outer grail]

I'm so scared of defeating because opponent has biscuit on their team but I will trust you I will go give SR doll to centi and change my team position according to yours

[cedar orbit]

Cindy nukes them back and wins

[quick lake]

Hmm, alot of the questions has been "help me build a pvp team", rather than "what makes a good pvp team"

[rich ledge]

my cindy fails to nuke the opponents even when buffed with redhood not sure why

[cedar orbit]

Noise, Centi, Cinderella, Helm, xMaiden. The team puts heavy pressure on P1.

[quick lake]

oh wow, something I hadnt consider

[tropic summit]

some of top of my head:

1. who are the best pvp nikke
2. what are the best 3 pvp teams
3. who should I focus on first?
4. what's the best rookie team
5. what's the best defense?

[rich ledge]

my this team loses to jackal scarlet

[quick lake]

Added thanks for the recommendation

[cedar orbit]

well, as an attacker, I don't think I've ever attacked into anything with 2 RL Cindy that survived Cindy's nuke

only invincibility

[rich ledge]

noah jackal scarlet team also 2rl and noah would activate first

[cedar orbit]

if someone uses their Noah, Jackal and Scarlet on one of my team, it's a win

[rich ledge]

thats why i think you also need noah in a cindy team?

[grizzled bone]

that's a good start. Maybe we change 2nd question to standard teams and then put Rheax's teams in there

[cedar orbit]

don't think you win vs Noah Jackal Scarlet with just Noah

[outer grail]

@quick lake oh btw I can change crown to redhood what do you think about it I lost to jackle/biscuit/cindy/redhood/sbs maybe I need more burst gen so crown to redhood is a better option?

[grizzled bone]

i'll have to format it later though

[quick lake]

Hmm generally for attack u would want to tailor ur attack teams to ur opponents

[outer grail]

I was attacked this time just one about one hour ago

[quick lake]

Can send me ur full roster and can help make a defence

[sacred pine]

hey guys what are decent teams for special arena in the current meta without going crazy on overload gear rolls?

[outer grail]

thank you for reaching out to me I will send you all the details I have

[keen vapor]

But you base overload, right

[sacred pine]

yes just not getting 3 black rolls or sth lmao

[keen vapor]

I don't think anyone here has 3 black rolls

[sacred pine]

wasnt that sth people tried to get for emilia?

charge spd 3 times black roll

[quick lake]

oh no. Just total 8% cs from OLs, and s1 at maxed level

[sacred pine]

oh thats fine

anyways, any meta comps rn?

[quick lake]

@sacred pine can refer to this

[cedar orbit]

Nikke is a casual game, has no meta

[sacred pine]

perfect man thx

[rich ledge]

will scarlet be power crept soon? Im afraid of investing into her

Since she has been the top for quite long already it feels risky they will have smth new

[quick lake]

Rei Tentative is kinda on par with her. But ultimately scar dupes still easier to get

unless u c7 everyone

[rich ledge]

Since rei is much better at solo raid than scarlet right? So its more money worth to invest then?

[tulip quest]

Scar still worth in pvp

[lusty gull]

about this, i plan to add a showcase deck page on nikke deck since long time but i prefer wait champion arena release first

[quick lake]

Both are pretty similar, with ReiT slightly ahead in nuke dmg

Probably can invest in whichever has more dupes

[hallow trench]

hi @tropic summit i got scarlet pulling for asuka! 😄 where should i place her ?

[grizzled bone]

@quick lakeso if we create the pin and then link to your post with the teams, would you be updating it?

[quick lake]

Yep! I can update if there's any new viable teams

[grizzled bone]

here's another fear of mine. If/once CA opens, people will definitely flood the channel asking for teams.
Personally, I don't plan on cooking publicly for CA.

[quick lake]

Probably only update the SPA teams as of now

[grizzled bone]

i hope it doesn't set a precedent of having teams up for people to start asking for updates

[quick lake]

We dk what's the demand for CA teams as well

[grizzled bone]

true it's speculative now

[lusty gull]

maybe anyone will be able to see top teams like sr so maybe a showcase page will be not necessary

[grizzled bone]

also true

dont see why they would though but you never know

[lusty gull]

in that case, most people will copy paste without thinking how they works

[keen vapor]

Caishen , cook privately for me

[grizzled bone]

Echo , no thank you.

[keen vapor]

[lusty gull]

[grizzled bone]

i'm washed retired

[quick lake]

At most we can wait till CA release and see how we wanna structure FAQ/guides

[outer grail]

@quick lake Ive shared all the details regarding my arena setups, both normal and sp could you please take some time to review them and provide your guidance? I would really appreciate your help

[quick lake]

U’ve sent ur full box?

[outer grail]

yes, I recorded my screen and sent it on your dm

[raven plover]

damn cooking via dm, truly private chef

[outer grail]

if somehow my opponents in the same arena are seeing this modified team setup by a professional player on this official discord server, they will gain access to all my setups, including my current Nikkes, cube levels, and which Nikkes are equipped with specific cubes. This would allow them to easily counter my defense teams, putting me in a checkmate position just for sharing this information in the public. Therefore, this is top secret between us so its nono

[unique mountain]

[dire folio]

should I focus on 2 teams on special arena or try having good teams

[tropic summit]

wait till the lad finds out all you need is to see the lineup and face them once

can hide all you want, the important bit of info they'll get it anyhow

[tropic summit]

she goes right here sir, but only once she's at least 4/4/7, doll SR5 and 4 OL lvl 0, ideally 3 lines (aim for at least x1 ammo, x3-x4 atk, crit/elem any)

[tropic summit]

only one month longer... right?

[swift mango]

This dude was an easier target than the whale.

[tropic summit]

add them on discord and tell them

🍿

[swift mango]

At least the whale CP pressed me with 4dps + Blanc, 3rl... An actually decent team...

These 2 are world different.

[hallow trench]

perfect, ty very much!

i will invest on her

[outer grail]

fortunately, I started during the 2nd anniversary, and even the whales still dont have all the resources to fully invest in a pure PvP team just yet. Some are still struggling to form a solid counter-attack team, but they are likely learning from experienced players like you all in this discord server so Its only a matter of time before they can finish the job as you mentioned. For now, just knowing which Nikke holds the Quantum Cube and which team takes anvantage with vigor/endurance cube for strolling or knowing that I havent even invested in some of my nikke skills, can make a slightly difference. but as you said, its just a matter of time I can hide for now, but not forever

[tropic summit]

yes

the sooner you come to terms that it won't last, the better, but do what you gotta do

[outer grail]

roger

[gaunt cypress]

fun fact : it ain't that deep

[unique mountain]

It is that deep

[upper zephyr]

[flint halo]

My new group... get me out 😂

[shell hazel]

just double your CP and you can contend with the top

oh wait lol

[flint halo]

I can get 9th

8th and above all 40+ sync lvl above me

[umbral crown]

Nope, they do not use guns but they op

[tropic summit]

maybe in 3 months

[umbral crown]

Waos

[umbral crown]

Or in 9, enough time to make a baby

[tropic summit]

@umbral crown can't make a baby with sesbian lex

[umbral crown]

[unique mountain]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

Need to try that to confirm the statement

[shell hazel]

fake doro

[tropic summit]

yes quite indeed, need the science

[umbral crown]

Yes

[whole pawn]

I think I can't be challenger this season

[tropic summit]

you'll survive

[whole pawn]

barely survived for 2 h today

2 Chinese whales and ppl changed their deg

[tropic summit]

i'm sandwhiched between 3 whales and 1 sweaty

you'll survive

2k gems each season is still pretty good, just keep dia1 secured and push into ch7-10, maybe another 2.4k gems blesses you

if anything i feel like i could still bully ch1

there's 1 option left i could try

[shell hazel]

💳 ?

[tropic summit]

nah that'd be cheating in my book

with money it would be too easy, unlimited gems and advantage CP

[shell hazel]

unlimited gems for hitting as many times as you wanted in pvp?

[tropic summit]

mhm

can't be punished for mistakes and just keep retaking regardless, easy mode

2 attacks a day, anything more and it's just showing you can't accept defeat

[shell hazel]

I accidentally used gems in rookie twice 😄

but in sp-arena not yet

[tropic summit]

there used to be someone among us who thought rookie gave rewards

and gemmed on rookie

fortunately said person then graduated

[shell hazel]

[valid fern]

I reward myself with extra wipeouts whenever someone gems me.

[tropic summit]

the fun part, ch1 is still within CP range until they 421

mf buying any RD they can

[tropic summit]

@umbral crown @keen vapor @fathom rock send an ambulance

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-it-to-the-ground-severance-irving-anarchy-gif-12659939959616943429

[unique mountain]

[tropic summit]

wow pain

[pale knoll]

Opponents entering where

[pale knoll]

Your name became canon

[swift dragon]

Hello, I want to ask a bit of help in order to tune my PvP teams for Arena because I've been staying outside top 120 for some weeks now and I think I should actually reform my teams from 0

[keen vapor]

What's the level difference with top 90/100

[swift dragon]

So, can I send my full roster? There are only 5 screenshots, taken from horizontal mode

[swift dragon]

I haven't really checked, but they have advantage in level and I think we are equal in power

Most times people say they have the advantage because of the team they are using

So less than 5

[strange linden]

what's the best way to beat this comp? tried Scarlet but she couldn't kill Rapunzel and she revived sanis

[keen vapor]

4 max

[swift dragon]

And here

[tropic summit]

so you tried scar blanc rh centi jackal with a non bricked scarlet, correct?

[hidden wind]

What's a counter for Noise-Blanc-Scarlet-Red Hood-Jackal?

[strange linden]

No, I was going for 2RL to avoid getting blocked by noah's burst with scar blanc and three clip RL
guess that's not good enough
Does your comp work despite noah's burst?

[pale knoll]

I always do 3 rl emi blanc for that tbh

[hidden wind]

Good thing I maxed Helm's treasure haha. Thank you so muhc!

[tropic summit]

you're kicked into 2.5RL due to s.anis feed, you don't need to worry about being 2RL because at that point you lack dmg to kill rapunzel

scarlet blanc rh centi jackal with quanum cubes on centi and jackal with a s.anis feed should kick you into 2.5RL and wipe the whole thing together

[swift dragon]

What teams should I find?

[upper zephyr]

what would be a good rookie defence team to run? I could use jackal, centi, biscuit, noah, scarlet, summer anis, priv maid?

[hidden wind]

Also, what does stuff like 2RL and 4RL mean?

[tropic summit]

rotate these two, if one loses switch to the other

[upper zephyr]

rl means rocket launcher

[tropic summit]

2RL team is faster than 3RL and 4RL
3RL is slower than 2RL but faster than 4RL... and so on

[hidden wind]

ah, gotcha

[upper zephyr]

rh is the only one i dont have, could alice suffice as backup?

[swift dragon]

[tropic summit]

alternative without RH

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[upper zephyr]

[tropic summit]

helmT is stage 2 and skill 1 lvl 10?
laplace treasured?

[swift dragon]

Alright, thanks

[swift dragon]

Laplace is treasured, yes. Helm has all her skill maxed 10/10/10 and also maxed OL gear. Although, she is not treasured

Although, she is close to be treasured

She is bond 28 and in a few days she will get to 30 and then I will treasure her

[tropic summit]

oke

[shell hazel]

go buy bond tickets in the recycling shop if you can

[swift dragon]

I have thousands of them, I prefer leveling bond daily

[shell hazel]

fair enough 🙂

[swift dragon]

Imagine Nihilister is around bond 35 right now, it will be a long time until I get to bond 40 there

[umbral belfry]

this is crazy

[lunar pawn]

mm should I just slap a lvl 0 purple doll on rumani and call it a day instead of building from blue to purple lvl 5?

[tropic summit]

ikr

[tropic summit]

that'd be shooting yourself in the foot, go for the usual r15 and sr5

[lunar pawn]

with what mats

guess I'll do tribe for more exp fodder

[swift mango]

Time to open your boxes and stop saving.

Or wait until they realized they could just auto 3 teams you.

[swift dragon]

Maybe I should have to change the question, what Nikkes should I add into the synchro device?

I want to form teams for PvP since I've failed to get into top 120

[swift mango]

So many level bricked people in this chat.

[tropic summit]

well your situation is a bit of a mess, so i went ahead and made a plan for you

noah biscuit cind emi rh
sbs blanc la+ grave jackal (temp team)
alice crown naga liter helmT (CP pad team till you can afford upgraded T3)

cubes:

quantum on jackal, centi, rumani
vigor on biscuit, blanc, rapunzel, noise
resil on s.anis, s.anis must be lvl 9 burst and have no ammo OL
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube available

notes: you badly need to improve CP on core utilities:

emilia, biscuit, jackal, noise, rumani (noise and rumani also need to be in synchro)

note: follow the table to the right for what to build in the medium/long term

[swift dragon]

Ah, just in time, my bad

[jagged sedge]

Do I have 4x 5% charge rate to get Helm to beat Jackal?

[tropic summit]

you don't "beat" jackal, they serve different purposes

one is a standalone battery, the other provides dmg link and feed

[swift dragon]

What do you mean by T3?

[tropic summit]

team 3

from top to bottom, T1, T2, T3

[swift dragon]

Also, what do you mean by increase CP? Like more power?

[tropic summit]

yes, your utilities are dead bottom in investiment

pointless to have a meta team if your nikke aren't even built

hence the CP pad team on the left table to start with

[swift dragon]

Mmm... Probably. From the ones I have maxed are from Alice to Crown. All of them 10/10/10 maxed OL gear and maxed doll as well

[tropic summit]

yes that's great, but without batteries they're as slow as a truck without wheels

[swift dragon]

Actually... That makes sense

[tropic summit]

build up your utilities and batteries, follow the table above and you'll have decent teams to climb ranks

[swift dragon]

Let me check it a bit, I will make a list of units which I should invest asap for PvP

[tropic summit]

sure, it's all there

[tropic summit]

what boxes Blood, those are 50+ levels ahead on same server creation date

[swift dragon]

Also, why do I need to build Summer Anis when she will not be in any team?

[tropic summit]

she will be in T2 to redistribute SBS to T3

also she doesn't need to be built

she's already decently invested

[swift mango]

Get your synch to 361. You start more than a month before me.

[swift dragon]

I see, then what would be the teams once they are actually finished?

[tropic summit]

there's no synch 361

best i can reach is 358 atm

[swift mango]

But I'm 353

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

it's right there, table to the right

[tropic summit]

this is all the RD i've left

that's 50k RD

a lvl up costs 11k

[swift mango]

Open your battle data as well

Get your Anis to lv361.

[tropic summit]

Blood is drunk

[umbral crown]

@keen vapor

[tropic summit]

couldn't miss the chance

[umbral crown]

Blood saying sometging you should do

[swift mango]

Get that Anis to 361

[tropic summit]

🍿

[umbral crown]

Never

[swift dragon]

I see

RL means Rocket Launcher?

[tropic summit]

yes, 3RL is faster than 4RL but slower than 2RL, to give you an example

[swift dragon]

Huh? So the less RL the faster it is?

[tropic summit]

correct

the sooner you burst

[swift dragon]

So if no RL?

[grizzled bone]

think of it as ticks but measured in RL

[tropic summit]

battle start
3 rocket launchers shoot the first rocket and it lands = 1RL
repeat = 2RL
repeat = 3RL
you hit B1, then B2, then B3

[swift mango]

1 RL is about 1.2 seconds.

It's just this game's lingo to judge the time frame.

[swift dragon]

Honestly, this seems confusing

Let me reread that

[tropic summit]

it's easier than it looks

watch this video and count how many times rocket launcher hit, then you'll realize it also coincides for when you hit burst

team is 4RL here

it's even easier if you watch noah here, as soon as her 4th rocket hit you'll notice burst starts

[swift dragon]

4 RL? Noah is RL and Rapunzel as well, but Summer Anis and Crown aren't (idk about Biscuit, never used her)

[swift mango]

The time it takes for 1 normal Rocket shoot with 0% charge speed modification is 1 RL. (~1.2second).

We use that to gauge the time frame in arena.

[tropic summit]

dude, it's the whole team rocket count as 1

1 rocket = 1 "tick"

2 or 3 rocket launchers doesn't matter

1 rocket shot = 1 tick = 1RL

[swift mango]

This is the best version I could type down already.

[swift mango]

So 4RL means around 4.8 seconds.

[tropic summit]

if you watch the video it's really simple, count how many rockets shot and land from any of the RLs unit on your side

[onyx scaffold]

help. where are the opponents?

[swift mango]

When they hit you down that is

[swift dragon]

I think I understand a bit...

RL means Reload? I'm confusing it as Rocket Launcher, so you mean some units just get more Reload than other, and being a rocket launcher doesn't actually matters?

[tropic summit]

[swift dragon]

Maybe I got even more confused

[swift mango]

RL means "rocket launcher"

You don't even need to know what it means. Wtf...

[onyx scaffold]

im safe for 3 months.

[tropic summit]

or until one of those decides to open their wallet

[swift mango]

Are you 40+ level above the rest of your bracket?

[onyx scaffold]

7 whales left the bracket

[tropic summit]

oh so that's where mine came from

[tropic summit]

@eager mountain oi we found the root cause

[swift mango]

Feel like you just got dropped to a bricked bracket. More like...

[umbral crown]

Sleeping

[whole pawn]

railm give a scar jack team pls

[jagged sierra]

Does ths game have live pvp similar to counterside?

[tropic summit]

???

[whole pawn]

nvm

[tropic summit]

no it does not

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Blanc+RH+HelmY+Jackal

[tropic summit]

his blanc is trash, scarlet is bricked, jackal is low CP, his helmT would steal scarlet's link

[whole pawn]

mm i wish i had helm mm

[swift dragon]

So RL... Is not Rocket Launcher, but the time an unit with a Rocket Launcher takes to launch that much shoots? Like 2RL... 3RL and 4RL...?

[whole pawn]

can u look at this

[swift mango]

Just replace helm with Anis.

[tropic summit]

why is there an SBS btw

[swift mango]

Because that's how his scarlet looks like.

[tropic summit]

oh now that makes sense

[whole pawn]

wdym? if u are talking about my question before, thats just a random question, but not sure if its gonna work here

[tropic summit]

why it's not gonna work?

what about all the time we spent teaching you stuff

just run this

[whole pawn]

let just ignore it, if i had to use anis instead of help, i might go deficit, so just check my pictures

[tropic summit]

you'll never learn

[swift mango]

You gave him too much fast food so his body didn't develop well.

[tropic summit]

anis was just blood trolling you

[whole pawn]

i told him to check these pictures, dunno where the problem

[swift mango]

Anis is valid option

[tropic summit]

we spent a evening for like 3 hours teaching him stuff and he's asking if he wasn't sure scarlet would work against a doro grave privaty liter feed

[whole pawn]

ik, my question was just a general question in case i have all pvp units, but my request was to see if teams i made was suited for the opponent, dunno why all this scene

[unique mountain]

Get your money up not your funny up

[whole pawn]

it would work, ofc not now because cp

[swift mango]

If you had all of arena units then helmT you should have.

[tropic summit]

run the above and next opponent, hurry or it's gonna change

[whole pawn]

i just go helm last week, need 2 copies for her treasure

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

it would be a valid option if your candidate didn't have CP bricking issues as is with their meta scarlet team

[swift mango]

If you want to do with want you have. Then just use anything Clip SG Regen or above with less ATK than scarlet.

Your XMaiden should do.

[swift mango]

Just equip her with 12 line and sr15 dolls. 💪

[tropic summit]

does he look like he even have rocks? he's spending them all to beat MC

[whole pawn]

[swift mango]

He was saying that he asking a general question but when I gave him general reply he and you said he need specific tailor to his roster he didn't even show.

[tropic summit]

because i know, have seen his bricks for the entire past week

[whole pawn]

chal 5

[tropic summit]

280k and 290k CP

[whole pawn]

maybe even chal 7 is impossible

[swift mango]

Good luck

[swift dragon]

So...

Basically Noah, Biscuit and Jackal are the most important by a margin?

[tropic summit]

moran indom with RH B3 and can't punish without scarlet

oh the pain

[tropic summit]

yes core units

[whole pawn]

chal 7

[swift dragon]

So... Doll, skills, OL gear for them?